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00:00:01   hypercritical the show is hosted by John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1">TS</a>]

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00:02:13   of topics and told me to pick one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/133">TS</a>]

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00:02:19   on because I thought it would be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   interesting but because I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   talk about Verizon anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   yeah really we could have another show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   we repeat everything that's already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/147">TS</a>]

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00:02:30   App Store now we thought one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   topics that I really liked was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   about the the present and future of will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/156">TS</a>]

00:02:41   you say it it was your time also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   picked the TV topic yeah the TV topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   not particularly topical because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   the new Apple TV was the last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   know people in the Apple community were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   talking about TV but it's on my list I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   blogged about it when the new Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   came out but it's still kind of sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   in my craw the whole TV issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   apparently in your craw as well to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   degree because you picked it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/183">TS</a>]

00:03:04   long list of other topics many which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   much more relevant but well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07   we'll save the list mean Marco can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/187">TS</a>]

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00:03:11   you my list yeah he doesn't reveal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   list but the whole reason that I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   picked this topic I'll tell you why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   because I currently am I'm mystified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/197">TS</a>]

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00:03:29   that more companies would want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   getting into this into this TV set-top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   box type space the Apple TV space for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/215">TS</a>]

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00:03:45   have one of the new Apple TVs do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   have it I do not I have a new one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/227">TS</a>]

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00:03:52   guess which which one do you think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   use for our main TV in the house new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   or old I can't guess I don't know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/237">TS</a>]

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00:05:44   dropping the home shares did you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/344">TS</a>]

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00:06:02   know why the old Apple TV is better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/362">TS</a>]

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00:06:14   obviously there's some sort of problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   with television that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/377">TS</a>]

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00:06:32   technology advances and when technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/392">TS</a>]

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00:06:45   consumers know that the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   exists to do stuff that would sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   eliminate the past limitations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   television all right then maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   don't know the specifics but they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   know that like television when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   growing at by these limitations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58   right now there's stuff that can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   past them I go beyond what television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   used to be able to do and for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   content distributors or producers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   everything their problem is that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   this technology makes their past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   business models less effective so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   is kind of the problem with TV this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   why there's all this TV stuff going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   because we've got this technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/438">TS</a>]

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00:07:24   the desire into the consumer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/444">TS</a>]

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00:07:31   else works and say hmm why the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   TV still stink right right and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37   know the technology comes in disrupts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   the existing business models and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   that's why I think people are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   make TV stuff and even at CES you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/462">TS</a>]

00:07:46   see all the boxes and everything but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   did you know you have Google doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   Google TV thing and stuff and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   trying to sell you televisions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   connected to the Internet and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   the other things so people are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   make products to get money out of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   who are trying to solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   with TV all right so let's look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   Apple did because Apple is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   great white hope and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   situations where we've got some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   technology problem or whatever so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   made the Apple TV version one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   that's what you bought yeah and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   saying you know it does more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   what you wanted to do the stuff is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20   the TV you connect it to your television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   set you don't need to have any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   computers on it's got a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   interface and what it basically did for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   you is that you could buy television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   shows and watch them on on this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   box thing right right and then Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/515">TS</a>]

00:08:39   v2 was the same thing but now you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   buy stuff you can only rent you can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   can only rent I mean you could buy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   on your own iTunes and and since it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   streaming from your own computer you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/527">TS</a>]

00:08:52   watch that but I guess if you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   new Apple TV as as being a conduit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   renting stuff then it's great they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/538">TS</a>]

00:09:02   it is it great like what limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   like you know what technology exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   right what limitations of past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   television do these boxes bypass for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   so that's a fair question I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   bigger the bigger limit the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/551">TS</a>]

00:09:15   limit is they act as a very effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   conduit for throwing something up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   TV that you really like the airplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   angle right that's a kind of a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   thing so did not give makes your TV more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   useful because now you can you know use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   it as a big-screen when you enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   room with your iPhone right and eject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   and the thing appears on the TV screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   it is very cool yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   that's a legitimate new thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   saying that let previous limitation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   TVs that you had to like rummage around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41   behind the thing and get all dusty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   trip over the cables and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44   anything on the TV it was just too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   of a hassle and now you can do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   that's that's one use one one way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   it bypasses the previous limitations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/589">TS</a>]

00:09:52   you know you've got a time shifting - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/592">TS</a>]

00:09:56   right like you can watch the shows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   you want yeah anytime you want but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/597">TS</a>]

00:10:01   you know you still people people always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   ask me this like can you tape they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/602">TS</a>]

00:10:06   always answered tape by or they use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   word tape can you tape stuff and I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   no no you know and that's then so so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   have this is the thing do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15   TiVo though right well it really depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18   on what people have it depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   television habit so what would you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21   your TV habits are like you know you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   the shows for the kids that's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   and then do you watch television like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   it as a weekly ritual nightly ritual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   yeah I am not all of a sports day right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/628">TS</a>]

00:10:32   yeah I mean I'd like I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   miss I only I only miss NFL if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/633">TS</a>]

00:10:37   extenuating circumstances like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   example my three-year-old wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   something else which is usually but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   you know prime time and if I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   watch that i watch a lot of baseball but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   as far as like regular shows i only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   know there's a few like science or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   type shows i'll watch but you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   I don't have any shows and I just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   down and watch like every single night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   if I do I you know it's maybe thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   thirty to sixty minutes of TV a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   like tops usually but I do TiVo stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/663">TS</a>]

00:11:08   and and and the stuff that I TiVo a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   of the time is stuff that I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   know I think might be interesting or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   stuff that evil will find for me that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16   thinks is interesting and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   usually pretty right on so with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   exception of sports which I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   you want to watch live when possible you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   are time time shifting pretty much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   the other thing yeah and I do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   sports too which is the were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   like a lot of the time if the game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   want to watch is on Sunday you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   Sunday and it's a 2-1 o'clock game or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   even a 4 o'clock game you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   to get to watch that if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   spend any time with your family at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   so I've got a I've got a tight and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   I just hope that like nothing intercedes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   in my reality and I accidentally hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   the score or something like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   that's a problem so here you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   screwing with the content owners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   business models basically because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   your time shifting and when your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   shift it's much easier for you to skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   commercials and and if you're not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   television watcher you don't have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   the big subscription that has every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   single channel in the world you can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   get the small subscription with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   your live sports and just pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   other shows you want on iTunes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   something right exactly if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   watch 50 shows it's cheaper for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   go ala carte than it is to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   subscription where it's previously said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17   that our model is you buy a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   to television through our cable company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   you the smallest patch you can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   has a million channels in it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   don't care if you only want one show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   right you don't have an a la carte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   choice right but think about what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/746">TS</a>]

00:12:30   experience is you already described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   three separate ways to watch television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   you've got live TV which is coming over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   your cable or satellite or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   you've got your TiVo which is recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   stuff from cable and satellite and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   shifting it for you and you've got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   now two Apple TVs but essentially one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   Apple TV per television which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   input where you're buying things on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   computer and getting them synched over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   there or you're buying them from renting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   them from the Machine and getting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   sink through that that's three separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   things so that's this is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   complication over when you were a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   when you'd sit down in front of the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   turn the dials to the channel you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   to watch at the appointed time yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   was it was much better back then too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   so you've gained all these abilities but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   you the experience is generally worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   and forget about like don't even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   to get DVDs or blu-ray I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   you do any of that do you even have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   an optical disk connected to your TV now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   not anymore the last thing we had when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   it went when I first bought a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/797">TS</a>]

00:13:21   four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/801">TS</a>]

00:13:21   at television which do you remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   fiasco called DLP I don't we were one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/803">TS</a>]

00:13:27   the fools who bought a DLP TV and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/807">TS</a>]

00:13:31   when I got that I got an up converting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   actually I think I had a Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   connected to the TV at the time but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   didn't that wasn't as enjoyable as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41   know as I'd hoped it would be back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   this is you know five or six years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   so I got a I got like an up converting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   you know upscaling DVD player which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   forget how many years ago I took it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   but no I have nothing like I couldn't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   don't own a blu-ray player of any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   well if you did you'd be subject to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   another thing that's worse than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   past television experiences which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   just like DVDs or blu-rays you stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   disc in you got unskipable previews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   you've got ads the thing takes a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   years slow forget about if it's a kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   movie you just want to get to the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   and the kids really possible how can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   be so bad I hear people saying this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   the time and at first I was like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   they just must have a stupid player or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   something but this is like a cross this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   is this is a feature as a feature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   the studios like it terrible the DVD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   the blu-ray spec say there's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   bit you can flip it says when you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   this screen the following buttons do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   nothing and those buttons are taking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   the menu skip advance you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   they let you fast-forward scan through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   it and if you want your player to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   compliant to get the little logo like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   for example PlayStation 3 once had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   little logo that says it's blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45   compliant and it's from Sony or anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   wants that you know if it's not some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   Chinese knockoff thing it doesn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   about compliance these the machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   honor these stupid discs instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   that tell them not to let the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   skip this that's why you can't skip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   FBI warning you know the trailers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   other movies you're not interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   you just want to watch the movie and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   kind of got you technologically prisoner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   in the case of blu-ray because it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   highest quality video product that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   can buy if you care about that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   thing right yeah that's seen 1080p and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   you can you're lucky if you get 720 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   most video services and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   streaming forget about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   artifacting and other issues like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   so I think TV is a big hairy mess right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   now like many other businesses have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27   big messes when technology comes along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30   and changes them and so I'm looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   not just Apple but really anyone to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   you know solve my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   problem I've got a TV problem because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   watch more a little bit more television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   than you do more you know regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   scheduled shows and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   mainly on the sci-fi channel and my is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   my understanding it's not the case but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   can be in your understanding if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   like actually smart sci-fi is not sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   anymore it's s yfy room yeah nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   do with science or fiction it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   something else oh but anyway I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/955">TS</a>]

00:15:59   for a solution to this so of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   was an early adopter of TiVo because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   there was a company saying we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   to try to do something about the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   know the we're going to try to advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   the state of the art in television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   TiVo was a big advance it gave abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   that didn't exist before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   it added only one box to your existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/974">TS</a>]

00:16:18   set which was then like a VCR or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   something eventually a DVD player right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   ah but but it basically replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   whatever was you were using to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   television with um but at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   everyone's got you know or everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   who's a tech geek or whatever has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   three four sometimes a ridiculous number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   of things attached to their television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   and televisions all have like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   inputs which is kind of a recognition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   the fact say look people want to buy our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   TV but they're going to have a bazillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   box is hanging off this thing so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   better put a lot of inputs on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   television you know like how many inputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   does your monitor have on as one how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   connect the computer right but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   television has 250 inputs because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   know that it's it's a rat's nest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   wires back there and the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   watching experience is such that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   when the babysitter comes over they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   can't figure out how to work your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   friggin TV because they can't better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   know what input to switch to or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   buttons to press on to five different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   remotes and when the kid wants to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   you know this particular show it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   this device but this show is on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   other device it's it's a nightmare so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   want and not just a babysitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   didn't in many cases your house yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   my wife hates it like we went out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   bought one of these harmony remotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   which that you know as horrible as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   logitech harmony software actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   and it is horrible I mean it is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:31   cesspool of user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   experimentation even even despite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:39   it works pretty well but it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   very well with a TiVo of all things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   now we have the the Logitech Harmony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   remote which was working great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   and it was doing you know that the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   DVR box that the cable company had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   forced upon us and then then the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:57   Apple TV's it could it could do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   but now that we have a TiVo we now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   the TiVo remote again and she's back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:06   forth to having two remotes again hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   it two remotes is this I think I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   near victory because if you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   seven remotes you know you only have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   and one of them controls a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   devices is pretty good yeah but so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   know we also don't have like a stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   this is so funny we have when we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   this house it was already like set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   for this it had the the connections for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   the speakers in the ceiling like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   could put four stirs up in the ceiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   so we you know when when I moved in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   got speakers and I cut holes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   ceiling and where that wires were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   hanging down and put put the speaker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:40   up there and wired them up but we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   use them like I don't even have a stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   thing hooked up to them it they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   just they're just there at least audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   still is reasonable in that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   one set of speakers you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   get a set of speakers for each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58   your devices yeah that's what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   be like it was in the same mess as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01   video component so but I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   so well so so well so think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   other thing I wanna bring up is uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   know so I'm looking for Apple to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   this right and I've been looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   years I've been buying TiVo's TiVo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   doing what it can do but I felt like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   wasn't enough and the boxes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   proliferating and Apple was coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   with these things were just adding more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   boxes where I wanna buy them because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   didn't feel like they were adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   anything to my already complicated setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   and then Jobs had that d8 conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:29   last year to remember that uh yeah sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   did that talk and the question came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   the audience which the guy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   audience I'm glad he was there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   he basically asked my question which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   like TVs a big mess when are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   to fix it for me mr. Jobs and his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:43   answer was that it's kind of intractable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   an intractable problem right now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   the TV industry subsidizes set-top boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   and gives them away for free now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   fact that that was the first inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   jobs his mouth it gives you a window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   into the way he thinks we said we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   solve this we Apple can't solve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   problem because the you know set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   boxes are give away for free the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   underlying premise there is that the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   Apple makes money is by selling hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   which is rich 100 true look at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:10   balance sheet where does Apple's money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:12   they sell hardware they get good margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   on it hardware devices cost a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   money relatively speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   that's where Apple's money comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   which by the way I can get off a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   tangent on the river in the blogosphere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   see the Apple is a insert word hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   or software company line Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   hardware company they grant fines apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   a software company big grant Falls those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   two sentences have been around for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   think for as long as Apple's existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   each you know each time you see it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   one person and fatica lee insisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   either Apple is one of the other right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   think it's kind of stupid because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   is an X company Apple is an X company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   you can argue about that all day it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   just semantics but if you look at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   balance sheet it's much easier to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   Apple makes its money from because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   is a question with a concrete answer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   you can't really debate about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   Apple makes its money from hardware so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59   and Jobs knows that I think he's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   hardware kind of guy like I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   how he comes at problems thinks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   what is the thing that I can hold in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   hand that will solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   so as soon as he has about TB says oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   well the problem is we can't make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   because we can't sell you a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   hardware and he went through this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   big list of you know why they can't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   hardware because it's all subsidized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   look at all the people have tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   sell hardware and he rattled off this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   big list of companies longer list than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   could come up with on my own he came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   with like replay TV remember them oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   yeah I got driven out of business for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   skipping commercials TiVo Vudu right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   Google he threw google under the bus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   you know they weren't gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   successful with their Google TV devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   and Sony and all these other people I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   saying that basically you can't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   these boxes because everyone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   expects them to come for free with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   television or be built into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   television or come for free with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   cable subscription and if we can't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   boxes Apple can't solve your problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   so he's basically saying all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   companies are a failure even TiVo he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   the first one he listed TiVo complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   failure like we don't want TiVo's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   of success because it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   failure to us right and he and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   reiterated like the many boxes problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   all you got all his crap connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   your TV is no fun you know he recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   that problem he and he said it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   problem and he just said there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   to get past this wall right now I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:16   the only way to do it would be to tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   up the set-top box and replace it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   one box with a consistent UI and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   get it to consumers in a way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   willing to pay for it right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   wonder like are you trying to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   the new Apple TV is that thing well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32   kind of got the get consumer get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   consumers in a way they're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   pay for all right because they lowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   the price really low and that's why a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   lot of people I think ended up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   Apple TV 1r TV 2 and why it's selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   much better than yelling booster like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   ants 99 bucks I'll try it but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   other problems still exist and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   business that is not a tech problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   because we have the technology it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   a vision problem because he knows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   we want to go you don't want all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   stupid boxes connecting everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   just a go to market problem so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   no go to market strategy and he means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   from Apple's perspective we can't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   you a box therefore we can't make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   therefore we can't solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   for you and this was a depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   depressing snippet of him when I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   this video my heart just sank because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   wanted him to make me a box to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   these problems he basically said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   not going to do that because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   think we can make money doing it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   could you know I can deal with that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   a reality perspective as a yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   understand this is a problem for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   I want someone to solve it right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   don't you want someone to make your TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   experience better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   in the living room fewer remotes fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:36   trade-offs between renting and buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   and how much it costs and what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   get when you want this show isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   available because it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   can't see the new season of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   because it's not available yet and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   can't see live sports because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47   contracts are locked up and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   this goes away from the store or comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   back on the store but it's not an HD all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   these ridiculous limitations that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   know are just artificial they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   they're not based on technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   they're just getting in the way of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   we know should be possible in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   utopian future of television watching so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06   this is why Television drives me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   and until someone solves it especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10   this Apple says they're just not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   like what do I hope for now just sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   front of my TV and deal with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   boxes and say it's never going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16   better well so what is the solution then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:21   you've got to have something in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   well a lot of things in mind but first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   you got to pick an actor like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   going to solve this at TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   is probably the company who I give money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   to that I hate the most because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   have a cell phone contract which that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   could be another show we could do but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   most people hate their cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   providers but then you know still give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   them tons of money every month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   I despise TiVo especially in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:47   years but I keep giving the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   because they're my best available option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   for what I want and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   drives me nuts about TiVo is they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:53   been getting worse with time not better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   like this little you know iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   that I have you know even a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   generation iPod Touch that costs less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   than a TiVo is so much faster and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   responsive than this TiVo box I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   like a year ago and it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   makes no sense from a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   perspective it makes sense from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   business perspective if you buy into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   jobs is a conclusion that TiVo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   basically a failure because they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   make money well if TiVo can't make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   they can't invest in their products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   their products instead of getting better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   get worse with time like the new TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   uses flash for its UI of all things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   slower than the previous model and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   model is slower than the previous model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   right you're talking about a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   they called like a premier is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   one that uses flash the one before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   the one I have is a series three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   that was actually TiVo HD was likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   cheap the cheaper series three sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   the luxury HD model and then they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   sort of deke on dented it to use a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   term and gave you a cheaper version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   was similar in sides but less convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   fancy so you have probably you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   probably the best HD capable one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   out there but if you I have several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   generations Attila's and house going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   back to a standard def one and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   faster and more responsive as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   back in time and you think of any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   technology products like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   readable and yeah drives me up a wall so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   TiVo is sort of you know not living up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16   to its its contract to be a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   technology company and do all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   you expect them to do they're sort of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21   don't know if they're giving up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   they're just struggling they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   enough money that they're making really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   bad decisions like going with flash for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   the UI it's just slowing things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:29   even more that's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32   depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:32   yeah I think but but what what are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   other options my other options are Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   TV well that's it doesn't make sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   me because the ala carte model is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   expensive for me than a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   and you know what you don't so it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   to me though like you're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   getting any content at all from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   computer it sounds like I have a Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   subscription so I streamed from Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   all the time on on your TiVo well have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:57   seven boxes connected to my TV that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   do Netflix soon you know your dishwasher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   will get the stream kinetic you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01   but what does the stream Netflix well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   have I have a choice of and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   thing that almost maybe buy a new Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   TV because I have a choice of where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   want to watch Netflix to and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   decide in a sort of extremely Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   Ian manner to use the box that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   that's the quietest so my playstation 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19   for example can stream Netflix but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   fan is allowed to forget it you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   a DVD player is considered Netflix but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   usually have them turned off so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   don't have to turn them on at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   don't have to hear their fan at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:29   the TiVo is always on so streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:33   Netflix through the TiVo even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   it's kind of slow and clunky adds the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   least amount of noise to my watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   environment so that's what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   it's interesting though because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   for a lot of people but there's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   existing content or they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   content on the computer itself I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:51   talked to people I won't name I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   name names okay but there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   people out there and I know a few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   them who acquire let's just use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   term they acquire video content from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:06   internet maybe they're buying it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:10   they're acquiring it in some other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   but they get it they get it they have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   there are other people who will go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   rent a DVD and they'll rip the DVD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   know they'll have it whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   purchased it or rented it or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   but they have it and they rip it and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24   it's on their computer and now they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   to watch it on that television so Rivlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   in these these situations I think I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   that's it doesn't sound like you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   you're you're I definitely do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   mean that's yet another we didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   get it I get yet another source of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   I'll say I'll get that how do you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   that onto your teeth well so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   the PlayStation 3 and I run a server on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   my Mac that can stream the content from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   the PlayStation through from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   computer to the PlayStation 3 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   plays up on the TV that's that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   example where Apple is not interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   being in that market Apple streams its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55   from your Mac to the television but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   not interested in streaming the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   you know that MKV file that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   downloaded from some you know place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   the sad thing is that a lot of time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   end up downloading content that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   paying for sometimes downloading content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   that I'm paying for more than once right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   so I have a cable subscription and I pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   for HBO and it's got a shovel HBO's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   bad example I have a cable subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   it's got BBC America right I pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   this cable subscription I pay for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   package that includes BBC America which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   is extra money right right and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   there's also BBC America available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28   Netflix streaming and I pay a monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   subscription for Netflix streaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   yet I still end up acquiring air quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   something that I could have watched when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   it aired on BBC America I could have set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   my Tivo to record when it aired on BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   America or I could have streamed through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   Netflix if I was if I wanted to wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   certain amount of time when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   available on Netflix streaming or I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   have Netflix on me the disc when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   becomes available on DVD but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   subscription too so I'm paying all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   money to all these different people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   I still end up downloading it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   it's a better experience because it's HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   and my cable company does not offer BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00   America and HD I don't have to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   it appear on Netflix streaming and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   don't have the way for discs to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   the mail but through the magics of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   internet that you know an HD version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   that thing appears the day after it airs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   and so it's an absurd situation where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:14   you know obviously I'm paying for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   internet connection to where that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   on the blotting is you know just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   it's the best experience I want by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   way you know that commercials are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   eliminated from it and there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   know I'm sick of people things at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   beginning you just download it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   go to sleep wake up in the morning flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   on the PlayStation which is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31   loud navigate with a little remote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   it starts streaming from the Mac and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   watch it it's it's a ridiculous scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   like no one wants my money I'm giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   two different people their money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   money and they still won't give me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   I want I literally cannot pay for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   content to be available to me in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   way that I want it you know in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   that I know is technically possible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   just absurd and and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   something only geeks can do to like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   wife can't do this on her own if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   wants you know some particular show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   she'll watch it on one of lesser formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   if she has to yeah the couch with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   asked me to set it up oh and but see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   there's a lot of people you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   very much geeks and I think a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   of our listening bass will be will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   geeks but when Steve Jobs talks about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   product he's not he's aware of us for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:18   but he's not thinking about us I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   that's that's why the iPhone is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   success because geeks like us can enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   it but the regular human being who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   wants something that works and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:29   cool and does a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   things that they don't have to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   their lifetime figuring out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   that that's what they wanted like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   without getting into the whole phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   topic you know that there needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:42   that simplicity and ease of use brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   to all of these things that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   talking about and you know who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   set up a media server on their Mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   keep it running all the time so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   they can stream con I mean like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53   regular person doesn't want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   like for mobile like I'm curious what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   software you're using but a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   person their eyes just glaze over when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   you start talking like that the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   is the same it's just that the geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   have have some sort of recourse like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   because of the knowledge and skills that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   we have we can find something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   the regular people they have we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   the exact same problem we're just either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   more willing or able or probably both to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   go through hoops to try to solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   other people will just either accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   problem as just a reality or just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   of grumble data quietly but we're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   unique position because we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   this problem doesn't exist but from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   the perspective of a company trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   solve it you can solve this problem once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   like I don't want to talk about phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   or music but think either one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   scenarios they were similar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   technology comes in screws with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   business let's pick music is an easy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   you know messes with the business Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   recognizes that the technology enables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   you to bypass limitations of previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   tech like you don't have to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   cassette of songs with you you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   your entire library with you we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   that what's built the device that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   that and then all of a sudden people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   ripping their CDs which have no DRM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   them piracy is all the place music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   completely free the record companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:59   feel like their entire business has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   destroyed by this company Apple comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   out with the you know DRM and iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   store get everyone together it gets all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   the big labels says look you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   just destroyed your business come we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   help you rebuild it put all your music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   into our store gives one unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   interface to buying stuff sells a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   bazillion iPods the music industry picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   back up start selling a lot of digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   content eventually the DRM stuff gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   dropped because they realize look you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   know it doesn't matter we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   making tons of money on this digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   music with or without DRM customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   don't like DRM let's drop it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   success story Apple came into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   situation that was you know for offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   okay so first Apple wrecked it with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   technology or anything but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   came in later and they got all the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   parties together that needed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:41   brought together and they you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   come up with a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   phones are similar a little bit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   how we're phones broken before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   iPhone well people you know if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   them do you like your phone oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   love my blackberry or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   people who knew more about technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   knew that come on that's the palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   operating system on your tree oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   a piece of crap right and rim yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   nice for typing out your emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   everything but where's my web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   that isn't extremely painful to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   right so eventually tech people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   Apple knew that we had the technology to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   make something a lot better and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   but they they busted some incumbent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   business models to you know percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   of app sales is not going to Verizon a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   Verizon doesn't control what gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   that phone rising doesn't control when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   the OS is update but neither does 18 t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   they broke the carrier model no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   $2.00 ringtone revenue coming in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   four to all the carriers right Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   took that away from the carriers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   brought the consumers a product they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   needed but TV like you can see jobs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:39   this video thing which you should link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   in the show notes if you have them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   can see him going through the scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   in his head like what we need what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   need to do to do what we did in music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48   and phone what we need to do to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49   in TV and it goes to this big litany of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   problems like there's not five big five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   record labels there's a million you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   cable companies and forget about that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   just in the US the rest of the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   TV formats are even stood not standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   so there's tons and tons of producers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   television content and distributors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   television all around the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:09   there's no single standard that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   build to again he's thinking of building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   a box like yeah you make it PL NTSC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   satellite cable do we have to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   every single cable company in the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   Plus every single cable and satellite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21   company in the rest of the world that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   a lot of deals to make um and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:27   thinking of the business deals he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   have to make he's like I want to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   this problem for you but I just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   think of a way to get these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   together now it's kind of a shame that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   they don't just you know he knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   he needs to do and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:36   but they sell to a lot of carriers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   cellphones too right like it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   know I guess I just don't see the upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   but the Apple really needs a business to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   be a global business a big huge global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   smash bang business and in every case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   they felt like that and in that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   them do it like GSM is the global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   standard so even though they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   deal with a million carriers they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   make one phone based on GSM and sell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   more or less the whole world and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   they're you know back cutting a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   bit with the CDMA stuff but that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   a stopgap but with TV I guess there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:07   just nothing in there for them to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   foothold on they just can't sell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   box so they're just not gonna do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   I think somebody's do it if I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   over the ridiculous fantasy scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16   and how Apple could solve this yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   would say okay Apple work your magic go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21   talk to first of all I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   the rest of the world sorry guys but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   Sims thinking of myself here how could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   you solve the problem for the US right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   away this is not a feasible solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   because Apple needs a global solution so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   right away I'm in Fantasyland but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   Apple wanted to solve the problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   the US it would get together all the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   cable carriers and satellite which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39   also impossible probably the same way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   got together the record labels and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   look we want to solve this problem what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   we're going to do is either try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   you guys to come to agreement or at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   very least get you guys to sell us your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   content or maybe just one of them get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   like Comcast or you know Verizon files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56   are working into your cell phone deal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   whatever cell-cell Apple your content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   and then Apple in their mythical data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   center which in North Carolina which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   solves all problems if anyone ever has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   in the entire universe I'm going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   it now in my fantasy scenario to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   this problem Apple gets the the feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   from the cable provider which they pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   for it some drastically reduced rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   pipe that into their data center where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   they have tons of little boxes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   record all the shows and ferry them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   or whatever and then Apple sells to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   consumer a little tiny box or subsidizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   you know $50 box $100 box or maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   given away for free gives that to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   consumer and then watch all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   television through that box they watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   live sports to it they watch any show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   first-run movies anything you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   anywhere because Apple is paying Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   is basically the reseller Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   acting like a cable company buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   content from wherever it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   storing it and then streaming it out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   you for your monthly subscription fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   that you pay that water box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   that's all content that would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   yeah we already but I already skipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   over seven reasons why that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   impossible seven yeah but with that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   that would be a solution because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   you can throw it all your other boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   and there would be no limitations all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   right it all depends on the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06   deals and how much it cost so if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   gave you the box for free and it cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   you 15 20 $30 $40 I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   price limit is a month where that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   be a good deal but you know I want Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:18   to solve the problem and sell me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   solution so Apple deal with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   companies that own the content Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   deal with who has the exclusive NFL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   contract Apple deal with why things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   aren't available in Netflix streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   but you can get them in on a DVD R and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   blu-ray streaming HD content you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:33   maybe my internet connection is not fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   enough so maybe that's another reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   the solution isn't as in the feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   yet but that would be one example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   solution another one that I would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   as like a second choice is just Tebow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   get your act together because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   not solving the entire problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   they're solving a lot of it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48   solving the broadcast television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   subscription problem for me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   pay for a subscription it's got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   shows Tebow does a lot of what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   to do some stuff is outside that realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   like movies and stuff like that but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   television shows traditional television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   shows - you would just get its act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   together and make a box it doesn't stink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   I'd pay a lot of money for you know oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   and don't forget Tebow doesn't just sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   to you that box they sell you a monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   subscription form right or a life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   together but they're taking away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   lifetime it seems like well they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   saying they're going to but I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   one on my I mean do you have one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   yours yes I bought it on mine I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   mine more recently than you bought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   as my latest one my TiVo HD XL was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   a year or two ago and they were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   selling a lifetime but you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   making ton I don't see how that can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   profitable the hardware in my TiVo must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   cost them one hundred and fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   and I bought the box were like 300 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   then paid like 500 more where ever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   for the lifetime but the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   were paying month-to-month they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   paying a monthly fee for what for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   guide info they say you're paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   the list of when the shows are on list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   by way which stinks and does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   correctly flag things as repeats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   makes the Daily Show record 20 times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   everything about TiVo drives me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   but they still can't make money I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   they have a box that they sell it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   to be a massive profit and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   recurring revenue and they still can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   make money it's just depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   yeah but here here's the thing let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   take a step back for a second there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   other there are other companies who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   trying to solve some of these problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   an example of that would be the Boxee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:21   Box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   have you tried this you read anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   about this I know about boxy the program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   and I've used it I've read about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   Boxee Box which I'm assuming would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   like you so you don't have to PC running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   boxy connected here yeah its elevation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   inside this box and it will run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   software for you right it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   little cube that that sits under you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   know or beside your TV and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   small I mean it you know it you can hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   it in one hand and it is some form of PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:51   that that runs the boxy stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:55   it's that's all it does but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   really the it's the same as running boxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   on on a Mac or PC yourself it just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   a it's a one and I think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   either 99 or 100 99 bucks I forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   price of it but what do you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   boxy experience well the boxy and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:15   even greater extent Google TV are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   of like like when I wrote my blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   with this solution or problem or I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   know I was just complaining really but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   if I wrote the blog post about TV there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   was a condensed version of this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   complaint about television and why Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29   doesn't want to do anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:32   everyone said Oh Google TV have you seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   the stuff about Google TV they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   to do what you want some people brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   up boxy too like the thing was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   make me a box that's omnivorous this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   the client-side solution instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   Apple doing something at a data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   Apple or somebody else make a box it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   omnivorous right take content from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   everywhere Google TV was totally trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   to do that you attach the Google TV it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   is the Borg it absorbs all the 50 other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   inputs that you have right Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2513">TS</a>]

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00:41:59   subscription your television your cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   everything it sucks it all in provides a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   unified interface and then you watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   and the demos for Google TV and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   mission statement all sound great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2527">TS</a>]

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00:42:10   finding out how hard that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   especially hard when you don't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:13   the broadcast companies that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   doing this and they said nope no content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   for you right okay that's kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   bummer you know great playing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   Google but uh boxy and these other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   are kind of a a geeks type toy in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   they're nudge-nudge wink-wink omnivorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   where they say you know we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   content from YouTube and blonde anyplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   else you might get it you know say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   more say no more right like they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2554">TS</a>]

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00:42:39   sometimes they're that they're filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   with features that will like correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   recognized illegally downloaded things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   and provide album art from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   crowd-sourced you know net album art but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   you know episode subscrip descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   and it will identify this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2570">TS</a>]

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00:42:54   description and a picture of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   and a star rating and social like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   will go along there it's amazing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   these things work flex is another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   that they will take your illegally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   downloaded content and make it feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2584">TS</a>]

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00:43:09   and it's amazing you know the dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   solution that I know some unnamed people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2591">TS</a>]

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00:43:17   site that has torrents of the shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   want and that just runs continuously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2599">TS</a>]

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00:43:24   box your numerous box sorts them out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   breaks them down into seasons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   everything and so when you turn on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   television you have this interface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:31   almost any Content you want in real time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2611">TS</a>]

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00:43:39   experience doesn't exist no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   much money you pay anybody and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42   getting it for free albeit illegally if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   you're a geek and set up this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   scenario that's that's too much work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   even for me and and especially since I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   paying everyone I can possibly pay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   try to get the content I want already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:55   what I then what do you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   potential down the road for and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:03   heard people talk about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   where essentially you pick and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:08   what it is that you want to watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   you pay based essentially instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   being for a an overall subscription you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   subscribe to just the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   interesting to you so if you just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   to watch The Biggest Loser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   you paid $2.99 for or 1099 or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:25   it would cost for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   description to a Biggest Loser and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   get the whole thing and you get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   when they come out so they are available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   to you you know on whatever night at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   8:00 p.m. that's when you can watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   or anytime thereafter it's just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   for you it's almost like that torrenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   except it's more legitimate it shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   when it's available you watch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   instead of having to sort through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   200 channels that everybody has the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   which they only watch for and tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   things on those four you know or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   scattered across you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   instead you're saying I'm going to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   a menu of shows I'm going to pay those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   shows appear on my TV I watch them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   I want to watch them it's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   video on-demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   its subscription what do you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   that as a geek I have to be personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   very wary of this and I think in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   people need to to recognize the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   that subscription you know bundling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   channels pays for the shows the geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   want to watch right a la carte it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:32   quickly makes it completely unfeasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   to make geeky shows because not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   people want to watch them so all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   people who are watching America's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   Funniest Home Videos or American Idol I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   guess is the more modern reference there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   or any other sort of mass-market show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   those shows you know or even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   the popular basic cable shows those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   paying for the shows that geeks want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   watch and the reason a la carte is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   you know offered as much as because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   more expensive and then the less the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   farther out of the mainstream you go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   more expensive it gets for you so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   about what about things like Hulu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   integrating Hulu into you know into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   boxy and and other things like that Hulu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   does solve a lot of that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   everyone is trying to it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2770">TS</a>]

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00:46:15   trying to solve the problem in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   way that they can and I guess it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   fight to see who's going to you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   better but from the consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   perspective you're just slowly replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   one set of boxes with another set hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   someone comes out on top TiVo has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   actually been around the longest so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   lot of anyone who's a TV geek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   watches a lot of TV probably has series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   of TiVo in their lives at this point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   there's still new boxes coming out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   we're interested in and we keep trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2797">TS</a>]

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00:46:40   will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   we're May building our own TV experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   piecemeal from solutions that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46   really solve our problem in their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   their entirety just solve one small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   aspect of it and the geekier you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   more you're able to piece together what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   you hope is a solution that that fills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   the puzzle piece in your life for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   television but nobody's solving at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   and these box makers and it's not Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:03   can't make a run of it but like Roku or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2823">TS</a>]

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00:47:07   have to have a global business where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   they can sell million units they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   want to you know make a living they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2829">TS</a>]

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00:47:14   to to feel like they're a success do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   have a Roku I don't I mean like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   use a Roku for anything that I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   in a Roku I can get it in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   form on another box that I have but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   I said I almost bought that new Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2845">TS</a>]

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00:47:28   it has no fan I said just think of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   can stream TiVo in what everyone seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   to say is a better experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   streaming TiVo off of stream TV live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   stream Netflix yeah ah and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   experience that people seem to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   better than streaming it over a TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42   which I have no trouble imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   because the TiVo slow and annoying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   just drives me nuts when it streams TiVo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   and it would add no additional noise so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   maybe I'd have tough time making that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   argument to my wife that I want to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   a hundred dollars and another box of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   television just so I can do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   that I can already do slightly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   but you know so far I haven't bought one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   so what about what about what our friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   John Gruber calls the back door the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2883">TS</a>]

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00:48:10   get an app on your your iPad or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:14   iPhone and use airplay to output the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   video from that app and the one that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   talks about and the one that I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   would want to do this with and will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   this with is an MLB so you want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   a game you subscribe I think it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   know 14 bucks or whatever it is see to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   subscription to the MLB you set your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   iPad down instead of watching it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   iPad you hit the little airplay button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   and boom shows up on your Apple TV now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   you're watching it on your television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   and what about that you can do that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   the Hulu app you can do that any any app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   my understanding is any app that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:54   access to era that decides to get access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:58   to the airplay which is available if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   you're building an iOS app you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   use it you can output your your video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   right to that so in that sense it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   a your TV becomes a wireless monitor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:13   your iOS device slea the Apple TV - you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:18   can get the cat to scare the bird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   then the bird will make a squawk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   will they will start all the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   bird talk over the use of all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   discounted you're discounting it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   not discounting and I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   these are solutions for geeks that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   you're going to go to someone and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   here's the new way to watch television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   you're going to download an app onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   your iPhone and you're going to press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   the button onto your iPhone and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   sure your Apple TV that you also bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   by the way is also set up and connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   the televisions on that input and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   you can play the thing from your iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   over there to the television but by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   way it's going to drain the battery on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   your iPod and so make sure you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   app I plugged in and you can only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   limited things on your iPod while this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   is going on and make sure you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   enough space for the show you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   stream and it's not a solution to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   television problems just one more it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   just one more thing that you get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   it's great and everything like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   especially like the experience of go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   a trip take pictures come back home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   show the pictures without fiddling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   stuff but even that is beyond most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   people I think it's just it's just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   for us geeks and we're on the cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   edge of this maybe it'll get easier with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   time but that kind of backdoor solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   I feel like everyone is nibbling around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   the edges of this thing but the mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   market is still paying for cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   watching American Idol and that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   solution for television slim in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   room says that you could make a nerd cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   in 15 seconds by crushing his dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   that's true I you know I guess I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   getting greedy at this point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   Apple has solved all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   problems for me at Apple pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   solved the music problem and well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:43   why do you think it was so it they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   they walked in and really really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   solve the music problem and they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   so quickly and so effectively why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:55   was it so much easier there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   and we know that the record industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   they're not pushovers you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   saying I mean it wasn't iTunes itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   was Pearl Harbor caught on my surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   right came out of nowhere Sunday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   bombed their whole business right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   then and and just you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   decimated them and then then they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   you know they had many things going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17   them the fact that there was big five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   record labels that sort of controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   everything instead of eight million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   different cable companies right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   and the fact that they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   negotiating from a position of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   it's like look your business is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28   destroyed you need us to bring you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   right the fact that music was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:35   easily within the realm of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   abilities although I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39   disappointed that the iTunes resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   made a revolution made the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   music go down reversing a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   trend of the quality music going up I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   talking about like bitrate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   everything like that yeah it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   like for the mass market technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   reached a point where we had no problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   whatsoever giving you music that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   good enough for all consumers television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   is pretty much at that point too but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   could say like come on why is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   1080p everywhere so we're just on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   cusp but but music was well within those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   bounds and really just they just scored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   a surprise attack victory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   um and everything went right and caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   everyone unaware caught the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   providers unaware caught all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   other companies unaware Apple just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17   out the gate and did their thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   said yay we are victorious um but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   every other business looked at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   happened to music and just quickly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   the boardroom it's like oh my god we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   do not want what just happened to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   to happen to us and they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   quickly fortified and started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   backpedaling and and said if if a fellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   comes to us remember don't do what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   music guys did just like yeah we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39   be stronger we can't let them take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   let's make deals with everybody let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   tell everyone in content Netflix will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   sell you a Roku you want to stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   through anybody what we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   Apple to have too much power it was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:50   kind of a little bit of a cluster now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   because the apples victory in music has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   made their repeat of that victory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   other markets or anybody's repeat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   victory landmark is much harder books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   are like that till you books all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   companies music industry is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   their cautionary tale and they have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   become their own worst enemy even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   so because they think they're doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   they need to do to defend themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   against that type of victory but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   consumer consumers perspective again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   other than the music quality going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   consumers perspective iTunes was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   big win right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   we all have iPods we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21   we don't really have many complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   about getting our music you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   Beatles are finally on iTunes like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   it's utopia utopia of poorly compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   music but still so then since we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:33   since we're almost at a time again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   do this on your lunch break we it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   yeah where where are we going to be then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   in a year or five years from now is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   is it just going to be more devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   maybe do a little bit more but we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   have 10 things hanging off the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   our TV I think that the things hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   off of our TV will get better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   smarter and they will fight with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   other or coalesce than expand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   coalesce and expand I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   there'll be much of a net change in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   number of things but I think all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   that activity will slowly slowly slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:06   leach out the mass market from where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:11   they are now which is a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   television so from a cable provider a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   satellite slowly start pulling them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   little tiny bit of time into other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   avenues I don't think in five years it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   will be that drastic maybe you know 95% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   of the people have cable or satellite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   subscription snow maybe it'll be 94 93 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   92 but that will start to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   at the edges the geeks the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   only watch one show and they want an ala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   carte makes sense them even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   ridiculous pricing of you know one show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:36   over fifty bucks it still makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   for some people to do that for an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   season of show that will just continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   to happen in a nibble away at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45   corporate in five years I don't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   being fundamentally different unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:48   some player gets the wherewithal to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:51   for one of the solutions though that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   talked about before the data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   solution the client side omnivorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   solution where you talk to the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   guys beforehand and you make the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   Apple quality and not Google quality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:05   that that's where I see things going I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   just hope Tebow is still in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   because I don't know what I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   do if they're they stopped making their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10   crappy boxes because then what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   going to pay for so yeah but what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   what happens I mean the it's clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   TiVo is not like they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   they're struggling they're not out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   but they're struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24   I mean why why would a player want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   in this industry at all I'm all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   frequently amazed that Apple has done as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   much as they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   for for this in this space it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   Apple wants to be in this business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   that jobs just recognizes as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   businessman that he doesn't have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   to do it successfully yet maybe at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   point that stops mattering and they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   pay pull an Xbox and say we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   sync ten billion dollars over ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   into this business but it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   lose money hand-over-fist but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   we're going to have a foothold and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   start making some market success I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   know if it's in Apple to do that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   thing they tend to want to make money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   everything they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:03   Nintendo style rather than Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   style but it you know it's happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   other industries before Microsoft spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   billions of dollars to get a football in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   the console business they lost billions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+IpkTip8Y/3371">TS</a>]

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