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so I've been away for a few weeks and I
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haven't been playing as much attention
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to the internet as I have been
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previously and then I'm sitting in my
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office yesterday and I get a push
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notification from YouTube that cgp grey
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is live like this is new oh so I open
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the YouTube app and there is this big
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screen with a chat window on the right
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hand side and all these numbers and it
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says intermission so I'm like what's
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this chat thing so I go up and I sign up
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for discord and I appear in this chat
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room and then I am entered into the
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world of CGP grey gaming livestreamer
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hmm no yeah what is going on what of I I
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feel like I've caught you in the act
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that's how it felt to me it's like all
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of a sudden I go to see GP play which
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was set up a long time ago yeah it's
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like six videos there they're all like
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two hours long you're talking about your
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levels and your framerate and like who
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is this person and I pop into the chat
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and and then you started laughing
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because you knew I'd found you at that
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point and you've been rumbled that was
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you didn't find me I thought I was busy
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I was just doing I'm just doing my own
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thing and and you you finally finally
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noticed that's all all I will say is
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wait we have a very good working
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relationship me in you and we share
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things like this with each other when
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we're trying new stuff out you didn't
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tell me about this one you just you just
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well off on your own and got your gaming
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software that's like I don't like the
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implication there first of all Mike
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there are many things that you don't
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know about right I have like a whole
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secret life of secret projects well I
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have secrets too okay it's not a
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competition it's not a secret
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competition like wait cut if it's a
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sacred competition we wouldn't even know
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about it right well you know I guess I
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guess yeah maybe not um yeah I just you
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know I'm just just trying something out
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just playing around I'm just messing
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around on the Internet Mike mm-hmm don't
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don't you worry don't you worry I call
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my eye on you you're off to something I
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don't know what it is yet but I know
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you're up to some
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I'm not up to anything I don't even know
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what I'm up to
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happy episode 50 gray it is our golden
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anniversary happy cortex over Surrey now
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I think that cortex over Surrey is held
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back for birthdays after shower as it
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was that for birthdays for this yeah
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yeah we fell into that hole while ago I
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realized that we've actually used a name
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before but we could maybe call this a
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cortex over Surrey - it can be many
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contexts of bursaries like how the Queen
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has many birthdays we have many contexts
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of bursaries yeah it's like she gets to
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cheat she was like three birthdays like
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wait a minute how did you wrangle that
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out the answer is she's the queen yeah
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if you can make up all the rules I'd
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have 10 birthdays one up bring me all
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the presents give me a parade I want a
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parade it's my birthday twice a day you
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have to bring me two presents yeah I'm
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kind of surprised that there hasn't been
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a parade for episode 50 at the show but
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like you know whatever people don't want
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to put that together that's fine here we
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are it's it's episode number 50 and I
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mentioned this in our last episode that
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I wanted to take episode 50 as a time to
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look back on the show a little bit yes
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we've been doing we've been doing this
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for what five years now it's not think
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of something like that I actually
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genuinely don't have any idea how long
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we've been doing it it's about two years
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Wow which I never quite remember that
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it's been that long like it doesn't feel
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it doesn't feel like it's been two years
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yeah that doesn't feel right at all in
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my head either yeah we started the show
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in June 2015
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so we're rounding up on two years yeah I
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guess that makes sense right because
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last summer or how do i phrase the way
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my brain is putting this together I was
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going to say last summer existed and was
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not the Knightmare summer of when we
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started cortex yep and we're coming up
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on a new summer so yeah I guess yeah
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that would make sense about two years
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but yes so over this time I think we
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have implanted our old wisdom that we
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have right we're out of wisdom this is
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actually the last show no don't say
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stuff like that because when you say
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folks are we not supposed to tell the
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people that this is the last show don't
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do that
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don't do it
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not fair you're being mean now to the to
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the listeners that's not fair to me that
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way oh you want a different impression
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ha ha oh I thought we were doing a very
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different show today what uh sir sorry
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to say buddy check the contract who is
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still going you ain't get away from me
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yet Oh No
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why did I sign this you ain't getting
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away from me I've got you we're gonna be
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doing this for a long time to come to
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send a message to my lawyer
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well it's too late for that I've
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employed a vast team to make sure that
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you're not gonna get out of my clutches
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but we are gonna take some time to look
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back at the show and a couple of things
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I asked our listeners and also listeners
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to provide us with some times where we
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said some stupid things and also for
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people to tell us what they've learned
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over the show every now and then if
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you've said they SH you got it we got a
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review and summarize and this this is a
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review and summary of the last 50
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episodes I think who think we should
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start off with some of the stupid stuff
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we said okay so this does one for me and
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one for you here which it which I think
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kind of hilarious mmm Bernardo wrote in
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to remind me that on Episode one of the
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show I said I have an iPad I just don't
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use it ever the only thing I ever use it
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for his video and I remember I bro I
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have vivid memories of recording episode
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1 of the show oh do you yeah I remember
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it vividly and I remember at that point
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I took a look to my right hand side on
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my iPad was sitting there underneath a
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book so at that point I really was not
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on the iPad train in any way no no I
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think also like I listened to the clip
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and and you at that point really were
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not either like you were using them more
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but like pretty much primarily for
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consumption at that point is that is
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that how I described at the time kind of
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like you talked about it being like a
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great entertainment device hmm it's I
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feel like we have to go back and look at
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the record because I think maybe I was
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agreeing with you that as good as an
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entertainment device but like I always
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wrote scripts on an iPad like a lot all
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I have Starwood's that you said and
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luckily there is a record and I said
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this wouldn't be a clip show but now
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we're only five minutes in and I'm gonna
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play a clip is it fair to say maybe your
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iPhone is the most important of the two
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that's a hot if I had to pick between
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the two if I could only have one that's
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a difficult question I'd have to sit
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down and think about that for a while
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that's not immediately answerable wow
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that's surprising to me I guess that
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shows a difference in the way that let
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me and you work like I don't even use an
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iPad I have one I just don't use it ever
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right um because you know my iPhone is
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like that's like the most important
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device I own I think yeah it's it's
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closer it's closer for me it's it my my
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iPads do not live unloved on the floor
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somewhere in my house is presumably
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yours does it's like somewhere if I ever
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need it I always have to search for it
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it's never it's never in a place that's
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immediately obvious mmm like the only
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thing I ever ever use it for is to watch
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video on yeah but they're very good for
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browsing stuff I feel like I using an
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iPad for writing was always the thing
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that attracted me at the very first to
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the eye apparently there's a little
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reason I bought an iPad was I remember
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looking at my wife's iPad which I
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originally thought was like oh this will
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just be a thing used for video and then
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I saw her using I was like ooh that
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looks really interesting um and like I
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think I think I might started using this
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since I was borrowing hers all the time
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like back and back in the day but yeah
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it's I mean no matter no matter what I
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said in the clip the mic just played
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like without a doubt uh you know the
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iPads were were way closer to toys
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two years ago yeah than they are now
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yeah like even if you were doing a bunch
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of writing on them and like and I went
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I've been through phases whether they
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were useful for me from a Productivity
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perspective or not over the last you
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know seven years the iPads have been
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around mm-hmm but I wasn't in the place
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with them ever than what I am now and I
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think it was the same for you right
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where if somebody asks you what is your
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primary computer you said we would both
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say iPad but we weren't in that point
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then yeah that just wasn't really
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possible previously not because of
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software limitations and because of
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hardware limitations and yeah I think I
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think both of us have have come to the
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conclusion that we think
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of our IMAX now as production machine
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what stations yeah like yet workstations
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to be set up yep like with particular
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tools for particular purposes and that
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our iPads have taken over the role as
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general function computer right the
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device that can do a bunch of stuff that
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was definitely one of the really
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interesting things that I noticed by
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looking over the arc of the shownotes
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basically a couple of weeks after we
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started the show iOS 9 was released well
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like we know it was previewed at WDC oh
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wow ok interesting and then that starts
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everything right because it was iOS 9
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that enabled people to be able to use
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iOS more productively on an iPad and
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then it kind of moves on from there all
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the way up to the point where I buy one
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iPad on a whim and then the second one
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just because yes yes this could go from
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having one iPad under a book to two
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iPads and constant use yep
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Multi pad lifestyle yeah it's important
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Richard wrote in to say the UH nepo
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sewed for you said there's no point for
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anyone in the world to have to Apple
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watches okay I feel the need to contest
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uh-huh this like you're probably going
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to have to pay another clip we go really
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far another clip show yeah this is not a
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clip show but except except what uh I
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feel it's such a disadvantage because I
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feel like I'm gonna be arguing I can
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marketing without hearing what I said
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back in the day but I'm because I am
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that's what this is I don't know I feel
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like everything oh well let listeners
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have two watches yeah I guess maybe even
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three what you don't do you know I don't
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know I don't I don't know but it has
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crossed my mind like oh I could imagine
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a situation where three would be really
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useful well four huh
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well now four is crazy there's no reason
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in the world for anyone for watches
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episode 75 and episode 50 I think my
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contract ends at episode 74 Dustin I
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just don't do this to people you know
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you have to unpair the watch and like go
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rego through a kind of load from backup
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irritating semi set up process for
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switching over the watches so even if
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you wanted to be a crazy person who had
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redundant watches which i think is a
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little bizarre Apple is saying no on
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this one there they're putting down
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their foot and going you can't have
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redundant watches I don't know if you
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can start throwing the bizarre tag
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around you do have like three iPads in
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use yes but there are uses for all those
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iPads yeah but there will be used for
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the two watches want to track your sleep
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want to go about your day with um okay
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but but even even if even if you could
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pair two watches this is all notion of
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using the watch to track your sleep as a
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redundant one that wouldn't it wouldn't
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work anyway the watch isn't designed for
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that and I don't think this sleep
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would even work over night anyway so is
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there is no point in the world to having
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this is a solution for nobody's problem
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that like this this accomplishes nothing
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whereas you know there are many many
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cases of more than one iPad being
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useful there was also a time when you
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know now look at you yeah overworked
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doll overworked like a beast of burden
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that's not what I am like just a slave
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producing content an endless stream of
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content that's my life is that is that
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what you do that's what it feels like
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that's what I feel like I feel like CGP
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grey production of an endless stream of
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Conte it never ends from my perspective
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what if you keep adding things to it
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that is true yeah that's that's that's
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one thing that's the thing you don't
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have yourself to blame it's like a
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their life and it's kind of like the
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reverse of care tax which is a thing
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that we try and do every now and then
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send things like this into us like
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questions you know where they maybe need
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some advice from us if they think we're
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in a position be able to help but the
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as well as just some people that have
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few things that they have done since
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whole run of the show into their life so
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this person says now I listen to
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thunderstorm sounds throughout my whole
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day because it occupies the part of my
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mind that can't stand silence but still
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lets me think ah fantastic yeah they got
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except when I'm at the gym when it's
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girl talks all day which is quite
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possibly the best motivational album
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ever created mmm yeah I don't listen to
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that the gym but that could make for
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some really good gym music always good
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at the gym is good at the gym you should
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do that but then you might start writing
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accidentally and then then who knows
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what's going to happen yeah now the hope
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the whole point of this is you have to
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train your brain for different contexts
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it can't be gym music because it's work
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music girl-talk has more than one album
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now there's only one album that exists
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they go on to say I've got GTD systems
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on every device in my email inboxes
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always at zero now I'll say they didn't
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learn that from us because I was gonna
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say how you doing work better than me on
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that yeah you've definitely passed us in
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the thing I now have personal finance
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tracker z' that I've built in Excel
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understand that yeah I know they can
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forecast my spending and savings twelve
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months into the future I want these
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spreadsheets personally okay it sounds
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like sounds like this person has built
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an unintentional business look like if
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you can you can start selling these
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spreadsheets why Smart Watch notifies we
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toothbrush and even go to sleep because
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it's in my calendar stored on my ever
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muted phone hmm since I started
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months ago I don't feel like I have
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intentionally changed anything
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dramatically I feel more like things
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that I have learned and dripped that
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into my daily life and routines have
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just allowed me to be more myself
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allowing me to see a future horizon in
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all the different directions of my life
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I like this paragraph because I think
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this sums up me hmm I haven't really
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tried to make any big changes
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specifically because of that what I've
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learned over this show and later on in
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the show I'm gonna say what I feel like
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but most of the things that I've done
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they've just happened because of us
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talking about this stuff I don't think
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there are many things if any that I did
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is like this big experiment with maybe
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comment as well it's funny I was I was
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wife about this the other day about how
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big conscious thing that changes your
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life for the better like those events
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happen but most of your life is about
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constantly making small little changes
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over time and then it's only like when
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you look back you realize like oh I've
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changed over the past year I've changed
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influence on the way that I live or the
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way that I work and like that that kind
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of that kind of slow small even sort of
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like semi unintentional positive changes
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like those are the things that really
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make like daily life more frictionless
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and-and-and like really add up at home I
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am a better more relaxed a more
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available person to the people I care
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about then I was before a work I can
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tell you that I have spent exactly 45
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side project Oh exsiting side projects
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because this person wrote in to us a
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while ago and I've been saving it mmm
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how is that side project going I'd love
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to know an honest 1642 am at have both
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switched to using the Dvorak keyboard as
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Ana's 1642 am at Godspeed to you but I
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think that you're both very brave for
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doing this I'm gonna get you to switch
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to Dvorak Mike that's something I'm
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telling you will not happen it's gonna
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be really easy especially when you're
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using an iPad all the time that Dvorak
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hasn't changed there's nothing so that
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can do that for you
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no no Apple developers if you're
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listening just just um just go throw it
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out there Dvorak layout what about
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Bluetooth keyboard like it do you use a
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Dvorak keyboard for your iPad yeah
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luckily that is that is a setting that
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has been in there for forever that when
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the annoying thing is like I would use
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the glass keyboard more if I could use
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that as as a Dvorak layout but I just I
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just can't so I always have to type
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really weirdly and slowly that way but
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yeah those those brave souls who switch
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to Dvorak I wish you the best I do
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really like it like it has personally
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benefited me but I can't I can't exactly
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feel like I'm a huge evangelist about
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this because it is
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it is like having a lobotomy when you
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first try to switch it's like you've
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just lost part of your brain yeah I'm
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not interested in the switching costs
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for that one I'll tell you that for free
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yeah and there are annoyances forever
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when you switch Dvorak again worth it
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for me I've never had RSI problems in my
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hands with regards to typing since I
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made the switch which you know I didn't
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have before which is again thing I'll
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just mention for anybody who's having
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that this might be this might be a very
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good reason to switch to Dvorak and I
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congratulate those who have come to the
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Dvorak master race but there are always
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Lori's know you conscious attached
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master race to anything did you think is
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better because then you're gonna get the
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pcmasterrace on your case well you know
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unluckily for them they're the inferior
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race they just don't know it well I
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don't know man your iMac frame rate
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would maybe suggest differently
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I'm just haven't gotten the settings
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right yeah okay good good I'm still
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working on that it is funny to hear you
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say on your gaming livestreams about
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having a top-of-the-line iMac and then
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everybody just laughs at you we think we
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can come to that later oh yes Joshua
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started his own company oh wow
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which is kind of incredible
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congratulations to you mm-hmm
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Alex started using a task manager sleep
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tracker on a time management system and
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Rosemarie was joined Alex in using time
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tracking and overhauled their to-do
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system I like all this feedback what one
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thing I think I have found interesting
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from our more recent shows is how the
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time tracking sections feel like they're
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the divisive sections yet people are
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either super into the time tracking they
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just do not like it yeah or feel like
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they're going to die listening to people
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talk about down tracking I find I find
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that very interesting
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yep that that there's there's like of
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almost any topic I feel like there's no
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topic that has a stronger mmm
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disagreements in the everything we have
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done I mean so like people will fight
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over Android and iOS yeah and stuff like
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that but they're not necessarily
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fighting against us yeah they did
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overtime tracking
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yeah where is it like I've definitely
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been on the receiving end like please
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tell me more the exact details of your
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time tracking system and also for the
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love of God never talk about time
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tracking again yeah it's like it's like
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it's like getting my teeth pulled I
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can't stand it I guess there's something
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about that I find really really
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interesting and that actually does make
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me want to evangelize even more the
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benefits of time tracking do everybody I
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feel like no like no you people who are
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anti time tracking you just don't
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understand how how life-changing and how
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fantastic this can this can be it really
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is it's changed everything we're not
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going to get into it now because we
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don't want to start this oh but but like
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know we started talking about time
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tracking a lot in the beginning of the
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year because I was trying to do this
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thing of time tracking lots of hours in
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the day and I've got to say like I can
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feel like this is this is a thing that
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makes a huge difference and if you are
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if you are an anti time tracking person
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just start small like just just track
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your prime working hours it's like a
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little gateway drug to seeing how useful
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and helpful this is I think I've got to
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pull the ripcord on this wherever one
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turns off we will come back to time
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tracking again one day yeah we will give
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a lot of notice so people can just skip
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if they're not interested yeah but I do
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just find it interesting so divisive I
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tested Edina right because when we were
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getting the feedback from people at the
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saying they weren't enjoying it I asked
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I was like what did we talk about in the
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episode and she didn't know mm she
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couldn't answer when we were talking
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about time tracking so I added that she
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switches off to that to his time
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tracking doesn't look like anything to
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me yeah so don't worry listener if you
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were unhappy about our time tracking
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conversations people in my own house
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wear as well so you know alone I will
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ask you though because though many
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people that brought up their
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productivity management has there been
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any movement on your productivity
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management are you using any type of
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to-do app anymore or you just you still
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living like a man on the wind is that
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why you're driving trucks more cuz you
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don't know what your tasks are no
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it's a you know it's a free lifestyle
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being a trucker on the road you don't
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have to keep track of tasks it's just
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there's only ever one thing just you
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feel and the delivery right that's all
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it takes yeah it's like where am i
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bringing this truck full of Lego - oh
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I'm bringing it over there man I haven't
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played trucks him in a while I'm getting
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that pull man would ya you miss it you
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miss a dose I'm gonna go by the truckin
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yeah you're going to UM but but to
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answer the question what I what I have
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been doing is I was living just totally
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unhinged for a while and I have very
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very little money special see just be
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great totally on him um I have very
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slowly been bringing some stuff
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mindfully back into OmniFocus so I
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actually cleared out the whole of my
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OmniFocus database Wow just to start
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over fresh wow you burned it down huh
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yeah I did I did I totally burned it
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down because it was again a thing of
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like I want to I want to think about how
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am I going to use this and I still don't
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have a full system set up in a
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meaningful way but I am using OmniFocus
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to again do all the like the templating
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stuff that we've discussed previously
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that they can do for a bunch of
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checklists so I have returned to using
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OmniFocus for those checklists but I'm
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using it less than I did before but
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again this is an intentional like slow
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rethinking of how do I want to use some
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of these tools so there is a system but
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not a full system yet so this is just a
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selection of the people that wrote in to
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say that they're using these systems to
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do management time tracking mmm sleep
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tracking stuff like that mmm not one
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person wrote in to say about the email
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habits changing that no one wrote in to
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talk about the email apps that they're
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using nobody brought in to talk about
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like adopting your VIP system nobody we
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spent so much time on email that should
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have been the divisive topic but it was
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not mmm but nobody wrote in to say
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anything about there
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no habit I guess I guess it's because
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people's email that they've all got it
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locked down yeah everybody's everybody
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is perfectly happy with their email
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clients everybody's doing great I'm
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using a mail still by the way in case
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anybody's gonna keep in school I'm back
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to mail Dada
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show and it never updated again oh I
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think it's dead oh no it was like not a
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novel one yeah it was like mentioning it
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on the show like oh is the kiss of death
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we had to stop talking about things we
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like you know that right yeah we had to
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keep it secret eh so was convinced to
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buy an iPad pro so that it's basically a
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monster reddit email Netflix and YouTube
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device which I can get behind you know I
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like to do my work but I also love to
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watch YouTube on it how else was how
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else will i watch grey drive across
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America on my iPad that's where I do it
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yeah so it's big enough you can see the
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chat something like that dave says that
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they refuse to put any apps on the
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bottom row of his home screen or more
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than three apps in the dock yeah that's
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the way to do it that's the way to do it
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really yeah the three app that I don't
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empty bottom row it's for temporary apps
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know you do and it looks like garbage
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the whole thing the whole thing is full
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of apps now yeah if it works for you
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that's fine I have too many things to do
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but I do many things to do so you need
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all those apps yeah I need them all
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there where else am I gonna put my time
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tracker I don't know if it I don't think
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that that's not a valid that's not a
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valid conclusion they are you doing to
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me like perfectly valid you are you are
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a podcaster mm-hmm like I'm a podcaster
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those hats I still don't think that
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justifies all the apps on your phone but
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perfect phone and all that nonsense when
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the regular-sized iPhone 7 whoo
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into this Mike this is like is this like
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your whole thing uh-huh we can't get
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into this now all right this is we can't
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we can't do this right now
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it's too much it's too much okay now is
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that we I wanted to tell I want our
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listeners to know all right
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need to know that you've been living a
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lie for this time is not living a lie I
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haven't mentioned anything you're living
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a life of a mission yeah that's that's
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what being a being a public person in
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the world is like hey guess what you
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don't always mention absolutely
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everything you do all the time yeah sure
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well I mean we talk about every product
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Under the Sun that we buy on this show
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but you neglected to mention this one
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cuz it's like it's the whole thing I
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don't want I don't want to get into it
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right now it's like a big story well I
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want to listen this to know we're gonna
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get into this no okay all right I won't
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ever want to go to the reddit and and
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say about how much they want us to
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discuss this the fact that you neglected
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the SE and have moved to the iPhone 7
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because I think everybody deserves to
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know why yes a mic doesn't even know
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what I've done Mike doesn't even have
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any idea and it's gonna be tumbleweeds
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in that reddit all I know that is that
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you've done it and I spotted you and
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even then you refuse to talk about it
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you think you think you know you think
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you know but you don't know Mike I was
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in SC in a big case well tough yes yeah
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we'll talk about it some other time
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we'll talk about some other time right
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now I'm enjoying how we've improved
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people's lives Mike oh yeah we don't
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need to get into like a big phone big
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phone sign tangent right now right yeah
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okay should we go back to talking about
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the people yeah let's go back to talking
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about the people your favorite topic
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yeah my favorite topic I think things
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were and to say this show has taught me
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that nobody is born a youtuber or
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podcaster now that line is the most
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beautiful backhanded compliment I've
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ever received how is that backhanded
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it's like because it's like these two
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not very good they found their own way
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they don't have that I hope natural-born
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Talent proceeded like it was spoken
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about it but that makes it sound like
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you believe you were predestined to be a
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podcaster right you're like who's this
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who's this person telling me that I was
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not born to be a podcaster hmm I don't
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know about that one I know what they're
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trying to say but it's a part of me
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that's kind of just like he doesn't have
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any real talent listen I think things in
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the reddit I really like that line I
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appreciate it don't listen oh I do
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appreciate it but I also see a different
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side to it I'm choosing to believe that
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they mean it in a good way
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mmm before the show in my head gray was
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just meant to be a youtuber and you just
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had the talent of a podcaster the course
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of this show helped me to realize that
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you're just a once bank manager or
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marketer who spent enough time doing
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something interesting that you became
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very good at it 104 it gray is just a
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high school physics teacher who got fed
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up and wanted to do something completely
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on his own and just got good at making
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interesting videos I don't say this is
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an insult there you go see see think but
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they know that it can be right I don't
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say this is an insult I say that as a
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realization that all the people in
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internet celebrities I know are no
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different than me except that they tried
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something and succeeded and now I'm
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trying something to and drive him for
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success so thanks yeah that's that's
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fantastic I was making fun I was making
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fun oh don't get all sensitive now Mike
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how come why'd you make me out to be a
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bad person yeah god I can't allow that
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you left yourself open I know I did I
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know that was a bad move I made a
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misstep that's it I mean it is a good
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point because I think it's something
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that me and you have tried to to talk
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about a lot and there's a couple of
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strands to it you know like we talked
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about the fact that people have talent I
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mean there are people that have
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differing skills and some people who are
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better at some things than others
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but really you can get by in a lot of
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ways by just really trying hard and
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working at something you know and
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because you know I don't know if
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necessarily me or you have any real
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talents that that make us good at what
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we do except we put in a lot of time and
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work to try and get to the places that
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we're at like I really like this because
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you know I've met I mentioned before
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back when I was just a physics teacher
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like I was always trying to encourage
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the the kids who were like interested in
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doing a thing that you could just start
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in life like just like just get started
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like that's it is at the same time like
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the most useless advice you can possibly
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give someone and the most true advice
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that you can possibly give someone right
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it's like just if you want to try to do
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a thing like just try to do the thing
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you know you don't you don't need
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certification or predestination from
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from somebody else like you can just you
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can just give it a go and and and try
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and repeat and iterate and see what
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works and see what doesn't work and try
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to follow the path that seem like
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they're more promising than the paths
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that are less promising and yeah I think
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that that is the big difference like the
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difference between someone who tries
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anything at all and doesn't try anything
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is it's just like infinite like so you
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just just give it a shot it's good
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advice but it's such a nice it really is
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yeah like I know how it I know how it
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feels to hear that from people it's like
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the same one as when someone says how do
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I grow my youtube channel or podcast and
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the answer is keep making great things
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yeah right it is good advice but the
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worst advice yeah it or or it's like
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Nike telling you that with regards to
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exercise just do it I am like go fuck
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yourself Nike oh yeah like I know I know
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how the feels right but that is at the
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same time as like well I guess they're
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not wrong about like you know going for
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a run I guess I just have to do it right
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but like no one don't want to hear for
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me right like I've got it yeah exactly
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yeah it doesn't help that that's still
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telling you to just do it yeah and and
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and it is it is strange to be in the
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situation where I remember being on the
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other side
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that like I remember being the student
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of thing and so then it's weird being on
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the opposite side be like no but for
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realsies yeah like you really just you
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really just have to register YouTube
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account and just try but but that is the
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truth like I still have like really
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strong feelings like emotional feelings
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of memories too like when I was trying
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to make something of myself and I would
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see people like overtake me mm-hmm
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and it was like why did I get to you
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know and you know we're at the point
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where I feel like I was good enough and
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I felt like people with equal skill to
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me were having more success and and it
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was I remember feeling like why is this
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happening you know I remember all that
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stuff there's like a conversation that
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goes around all the time about like how
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much of success is the result of like
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hard work and how much of it is luck
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right and this is like conversation that
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happens all the time and you know people
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say like oh it's it's it's all luck
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right or it's all hard work it's
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obviously some combination of the two
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yeah and I think you can drive yourself
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crazy because you can see situations
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like like what you're just describing
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there where you Mike are trying to get
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started and you can see people who you
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think have the same level of skill as
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you surpassing you and at a certain
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level like yeah how successful someone
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is does largely come down to a question
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of luck like it definitely does but
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regardless of that you have to work to
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put yourself into a position where you
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can be exposed to lucky situations yep
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right and so when someone says like oh
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it's all it's all just luck right if
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people do well in the world or not it's
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like well nobody gets lucky by sitting
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on a couch all day doing nothing all
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right like that happened to nobody even
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the people you suspect may have done
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very little to get their successes like
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they've done more than you think and so
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that's why the you have to just make a
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youtube channel or you have to just
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start with the podcast or you have to
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just start your project on the side
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whatever it is
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that that's why that is the most
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important thing because it puts you in a
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position to potentially be lucky and and
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that's the big difference like that that
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is what can make all of the difference
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yeah and even if luck is what gets you
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there it's hard work that keeps you
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there right like you can be lucky I can
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it kind of goes around right like hard
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work ish to the place that you need to
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be to be lucky but then you can't ride
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the luck then in some ways have to work
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harder because you're in a place now
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yeah you have to do maintenance on it as
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well like it's a it's a little feedback
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cycle but I I get I get bothered by it
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sometimes because when I see people say
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like Oh success is entirely dependent on
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luck and say well that sounds like a
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great excuse to do nothing is what that
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that's kind of what you're telling
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yourself like oh if I sit here and never
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start any side projects
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maybe I'll just be lucky like Steve Jobs
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like I think it's gonna happen right
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that the way this works was be lucky I
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don't know yeah he was para doesn't
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thrown in with some brief thoughts on
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how to cortex has changed their life
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I found the show in the late summer in
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one fifth of our department was out on
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maternity leave and I was picking up a
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lot of the slack it was too much and I
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was too unorganized and into compound
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matters some RSI problems were occurring
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can I make it look like my work is
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meeting Tim Cook I'm glad everybody
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military phrase but maybe am somewhere
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impact on my life it's important why
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many people that use the iPad not many
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we're a persecuted bunch we persecuted
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misunderstood group right that's the
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multi iPad lifestyle people I've kind of
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general-purpose computer and I can I
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feel like I can just grab it and just go
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out and be relatively unencumbered and
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not have to have anything else and it's
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really nice to work that way it really
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that's going to make a difference so
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that that is another reason why I use
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that one for travel more than than the
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big one you know if we ever get the iPad
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that we want the 10-inch one that kind
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of sits between the middle of them I
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wonder if and how things might change
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for us because you know that's a small
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iPad of many of the benefits of the big
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one such as the rumors but I don't think
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Apple's ever making new product so it's
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not a problem
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time tracking and deciding hourly rates
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has been a big thing for me not so much
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a big thing for all of our listeners but
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I told you a couple of weeks ago that
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whilst I have not done anything as
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scientific as you I have sat down and
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worked out from a basic perspective what
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I own from the work that I do I will buy
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our I'm not gonna lie I feel like this
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is a major accomplishment on my part cuz
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I have been bullying you about this yeah
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since before we started cortex right
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like since probably since the first time
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I met you into like oh you got to do
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this you've got to work out what your
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hourly rate is it informed a couple of
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small changes for me mmm small as in not
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huge things but they've make either
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making a big impact mmm it's just
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getting myself some time back for stuff
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that I was making barely no money for I
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was very interested that like most of my
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recording falls have been arranged like
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all of the shows that I do who fall
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within a range which I'm happy with I
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didn't really have many really big
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outliers but I plan to revisit this more
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scientifically at some point in the
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future but I just wanted to sit down one
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day I had some spare time and just like
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pull up a couple of episodes below a pen
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and paper and just just scribble some
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numbers down and I was pleased by what I
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found honestly
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one of the reasons that I've avoided
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doing this as I thought it was going to
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expose some horrific truths yeah you
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were expecting to be made very sad yeah
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but it turns out that it's it's not as
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bad as I thought it was going to be
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maybe if I do some real scientific
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tracking I will learn something
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different
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but just my back of the envelope math
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was good yeah but I thought that's all
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anybody needs right it's just just a
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back-of-the-envelope calculation just
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just to give you some vague boundary to
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think about I know I get I think
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everybody imagines that I'm I'm like
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calculating this down to the second into
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the penny but it's like you don't need
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it that precise right you just need like
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a one significant figure number right
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just to have as a ballpark for when
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you're thinking about making decisions a
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lot of the stuff that I've learned and a
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lot of stuff that I've moved with his
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stuff that we've kind of come to a
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decision together or we've worked on
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something in a way that we're moving
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together towards something you know and
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I think a lot of the iPad stuff is that
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way I think the thing that has made the
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biggest impact on my life is something
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that you have taught me which is that
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work should be able to happen without
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you and this has made the single biggest
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impact on my life over the last two
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years and that comes in sometimes in the
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sense of automation which is fine and
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that's that's great but the biggest one
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is hiring someone and having somebody
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who helps you having an assistant
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it hasn't been very long that I've had
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an assistant it's maybe a couple of
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months if that but the change this is
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made on my life I cannot even begin to
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describe to you you don't you don't have
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to describe because I understand like I
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completely understand its massive it's
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just massive the amount of hours that
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I'm saving they're not like 50 hours a
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week right I'm saving a handful of hours
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at the moment and it's increasing over
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time as we're learning which and what
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things will be given to my assistant
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mm-hmm but it's just what it's doing for
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my general mental state mmm is fantastic
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it's so good I'm so happy to hear this
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and I also just want to take this moment
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to to stress that this is this is
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connect
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did to the previous thing about having
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an ID like a ballpark idea about what
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your time is worth per hour
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because this is like having someone to
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help you with anything you don't have to
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be running like a gigantic youtube
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channel or a podcasting empire in order
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to be able to do this like if you just
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know what your time is worth the only
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question then becomes like are there
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people who can help you with things for
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less than that many dollars per hour and
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if the answer is yes then you might want
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to consider this and I think I think
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I've told you I don't know if I've
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actually told you this or not but like I
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when I was a teacher I came very very
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close to shipping my students homework
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to India to have it marked did have it
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shipped back no you not told me this
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yeah okay so I like I came very very
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close to doing it in the end I decided
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not to not because it wasn't a brilliant
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idea and and my ROI calculation said
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that this totally made sense in terms of
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like how much would it cost me how long
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could it take to get it overnighted to
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India like to have it returned right and
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like I was I was trying to think about
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all of this these kind of things like
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how to make this work I was like I had I
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had it all like ready to go but then I
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but then I realized like I will be fired
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immediately like if anybody finds out
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that I have done this right this is
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you'd never be able to get a job again
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and teaching you'd be done yeah that was
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the reason I was like you know what this
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is too far it's like I have lots of
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little tricks as a teacher that I'm
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using to save time but this but this is
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one where it's like there's there's a
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downside which is essentially like an
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insta-kill downside and that was thing
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like man if sucked like if some truck in
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India turns over and all the homework is
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lost like I'm like right now I'm in real
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trouble so I didn't actually do it but
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it didn't change the fact that like when
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I was a teacher I did have some small
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stuff that I was I was outsourcing right
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through overseas outsourcing companies
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like to just have people help me with
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stuff all right and it was like it's
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super cheap and it get worked in my
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favor and so like this is this is not
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just like you're running a successful
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podcast and
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this is what this is why like I think
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it's really important to know how much
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is your time worth so that you can think
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about having somebody help you or even
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just like this is how this is how
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specialization in the economy works like
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is there just a service that can be
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provided that will take less time to do
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this then you would take to do it like
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maybe that's worth doing it's just it's
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like it's such an important way to think
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about stuff but like III do have to
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agree with you Mike like it when when
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you start doing this again it is just
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like the hiring thing you know we see
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like oh you always hire too late if
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you're if you're a business I think it's
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a similar thing of like getting someone
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to help you everybody does this too late
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and when you do it it makes such a such
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an enormous cognitive difference even if
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it isn't saving you huge numbers of
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hours I just know that there are things
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that I don't really enjoy doing somebody
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else might Lulu and that's the
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experience that I've had so far and it's
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wonderful and the reason that I don't
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enjoy some of these things as I've done
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them for nearly three years every week
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and they were fun initially but after a
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while the faun wears offs on these tasks
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and now I don't need to do it anymore
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or like there were things that I was
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doing but kids nobody else would or
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could but then not my skill set and it's
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somebody else's skill set yeah and
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there's also a way in which sometimes
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it's it's easier for somebody else to do
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a thing because they don't have like an
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emotional baggage attached to whatever
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the task is again and this this is also
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an interesting phenomenon of trying to
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get people to help you is is you realize
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like oh for this other person this task
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is way easier and way faster to do than
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if it is for me to do because for them
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it's just a task but for me it's
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something that's like that comes with
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emotional baggage oh so yeah like or
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I've been doing this for so long or like
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oh this is a thing that I just don't
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want to think about and for the other
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person like it has none of those
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connotations yeah a lot of this stuff
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gets done faster because I was putting
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it off yeah yeah that has been my
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experience is there's a whole category
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of things
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that it's not like I couldn't do them
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but if I
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but if I
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had to be the person who would do it I
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just know they would never happen and
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and so that makes a huge difference I've
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learned that they will never be a
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perfect email app no Mike you gotta hold
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out hope now right
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I've given up no I still have home I
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still given up I've given up gray there
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will never be a perfect email app
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because any email app that seems like
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it's gonna be amazing
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even nobody wants to buy it or somebody
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buys in shuts it down but gets it right
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there's two outcomes get it gets bought
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or it doesn't get bought and both of
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them end in misery yeah
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there's no good there's just no good
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solution for email and the one that I've
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settled on is fine but every now and
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then I send an email and the app crashes
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and I don't know it's crashed and emails
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never sent you know yeah so like I now
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have a new habit of checking their
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emails of sin which it is so annoying to
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have to do that but this app does like
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90 percent of the other things I needed
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to do but like the ten percent that it
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doesn't do what does badly it does
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really badly so there's never gonna be a
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perfect email app they just want they
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and I've come to I'm just come to accept
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it I'm not upset about it anymore I'm
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not angry I'm in the acceptance stage
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I'm still gonna hold out hope but it
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might be a rational hope I've learned
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that making YouTube videos is
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approach to it honestly disappointing
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you know the most the most important
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having a regular schedule and it just it
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seems like that's what this game
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streaming right it's everyday no was it
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every day a o'clock or something that's
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just the general thing that's what is
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the work every day don't try to turn
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this around Mike every day a p.m. CGP
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play get your streams on like haven't
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you haven't you read the YouTube guide
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to making great content on YouTube and
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like number one thing is a schedule
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every every every week it's gonna be a
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new Mike early episode you got to train
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at 7 p.m.
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tell you what we'll get on it together
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week we'll both be there 7 p.m. Eastern
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streams and you really try quickly and
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get you trying to push the slugs that's
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what people can look out for there might
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never be a stream again I don't know why
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you're trying to push this you bold
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software that's going to finish dreaming
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like I said that tells you nothing tells
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you nothing are why my friend ROI I
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think overall is well one of the things
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that cortex has done for me is to allow
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me to enjoy my work more because I am
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more considerate about new projects and
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more considerate about her way up my
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and I've decided and learned to put
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focus in the things that I like doing
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and optimize my way out with the things
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that I don't know what about you me Mike
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well come on don't be this well don't
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play like that
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no no no what like so like here's the
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interesting thing I saw this in the show
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notes when I was looking at this a
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couple hours ago tried to get ready for
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about things I was like okay what have I
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learned from the show and I wrote down
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my clay the first bullet point thing
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that popped into my I was like oh I've
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learned about web api's right which
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without the show I would never I think I
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never would have gone down the kind of
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path to think about that as much and
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recognize this as a kind of important
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programmers tool that that's useful to
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have but then like I was like okay well
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that's one thing but but I feel like
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okay so I can name something in
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particular but in one way I don't think
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that's super interesting because what I
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feel like I have learned is that this
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show is not a Productivity show at all
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uh-oh that's not really what this is
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Mike I think it's the thing that we
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touched upon a few episodes ago this
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idea of like an ongoing conversation
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about working and stuff in our lives
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like shows always have to kind of like
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find what they are and I think that's
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what this show is like in a very funny
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way I was thinking about it earlier
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today and I was realizing like oh this
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show has become what in retrospect seems
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very obvious which is it is an extension
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of our lunches that we use to meet up
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for yeah in London before we're doing
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the show mm-hmm all right which thinking
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back upon it it's like all right of
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we're doing sort of exactly what we used
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we're doing we're doing it with an
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audience presence and with an audience
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that is interactive in some way giving
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us feedback and one that we're talking
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to it kind of makes sense because it was
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the conversations we were having over
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those lunches which was what made me
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think that it could be interesting for
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us to have a show together right yeah
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that that's that's why that's why you
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start to pursue me and as intensely as
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you did yep to lock me down into this
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contract a long-term deal for a very
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long-term deal but what I think is
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interesting about that is it's like it's
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just going back to what we're saying
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before going back to all of this
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feedback from people about the 50th
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episode that a thing doesn't need to be
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explicitly about productivity in order
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to be helpful it just means like the for
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the listeners and for us is like we're
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coming together and we're sort of
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discussing in general ways our working
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lives sometimes it's in very specific
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details sometimes it's broad overview
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sometimes we're just sort of goofing off
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but it's like vaguely related to work
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but not really but what matters is this
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conversation that loops back upon itself
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and so it's very hard for me to say like
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what have I specifically learned from
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the show I have a hard time coming up
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with exact bullet points but I know
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without any doubt that because of this
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show I have been much more mindful of my
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work in a whole bunch of ways over the
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past two years then I would have been
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without it and I hope that for listeners
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of the show they have that same
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experience that if we're talking about
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time tracking and you find that that is
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totally irrelevant to your life the
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detail of that doesn't matter so much as
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if you're listening to the show on a
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regular basis it is a reminder for for
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you to be mindful of the way that you
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work as well so I feel
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it's it's almost like a metal lesson
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here that the thing doesn't need to be
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about productivity to be in some sense
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productive and and that's that's what
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this is like you and I were kind of
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having lunches together again but with a
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larger group of people that's what this
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show is
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get me little emotional over here don't
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cry Mike I'll try not to okay that'd be
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really embarrassing we'd have to cut
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that happy fiftieth everybody happy 50th
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poor little episode it didn't do nothing
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talking about oh look we were unhappy at
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Mac Pro so I did get to do that at least
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whoo but unfortunately this is one of
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very often for us but where something
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release mmm so it did make me want to
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just address this with you a little bit
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to catch everybody up Apple had a
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journal have a bunch of journalists come
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to them to see them at the offices and
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they went through it through a few
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things and they kind of accepted blame
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as much as they would then leaked that
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the Mac Pro that is currently for sale
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is not good and that they designed the
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way that they designed it was was
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suboptimal to the point where they
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couldn't update it in a way that people
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needed and that they're working on a new
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Mac Pro and they have really powerful
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iMacs coming later this year and we're
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probably going to see this new Mac Pro
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maybe next year they don't really give a
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timeframe on it but basically said not
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this year yeah interesting phrasing yeah
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because it's I mean from everything that
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we've seen and everything that I've
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heard this changed that Apple actually
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working on a new Mac Pro has was very
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recent to them bring in those
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journalists and and they basically were
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like right now we decided to do this we
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need to curb
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current rhetoric that when we don't care
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about professional users anymore hmm
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so I wonder you were definitely harsher
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than me um in your feelings about this
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like I I kind of said on the episode I
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just want to see some kind of torch from
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them and I'll believe that they actually
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do care mmm and you were basically like
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no I need multiple years of proof so I
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wonder if this has changed your feelings
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at all about the way the evil Apple is
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treating you as a professional user of
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its products well on the one hand I
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think this is it is really funny because
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this is the kind of thing that I never
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really thought Apple would ever do well
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no this this completely bucks
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all trends you know and what we I think
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I brought this up on the last episode
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that Apple is a a company of traditions
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and schedules and then not anymore
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and so they're breaking a lot of what we
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know them to be and this is one another
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example of that where Apple never talks
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about future products and you know now
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they have to the point like so early
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they don't even have anything to show if
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they ever talk about a future product
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it's ready to show you but it's just not
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shipping yet this is like we haven't
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even got design for this thing but we
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can tell you we're doing it yeah yeah
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it's so early that the impression that I
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get is it's like we actually just have a
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whiteboard somewhere we decided that
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this was a thing that we were going to
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do there's a Trello board we know that
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much yeah outside of that we have no mic
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but that's what it feels like yeah
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it's like has a physical thing happened
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anywhere in the world I suspect maybe
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not right but um but it's also a thing
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that in in retrospect I was thinking
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about is I think it's a really sensible
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decision because they're talking about a
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future product for such a relatively
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small portion of their overall user base
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yeah that what does it matter right it
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doesn't because those people were buying
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it no matter what
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right the exact reason Apple keeps their
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secrecy is so they can have their big
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reveals of their products where the
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whole message
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controlled yeah but with something like
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this the market is so small and that
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markets buying it no matter what it is
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because they need it yeah and and so you
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like it
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is interesting to think about like oh it
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never occurred to me but yeah for
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particularly the MacPro subsection of
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the market like why not just give them a
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release schedule all right why not just
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just say here's our here's our whole
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roadmap for this project and it hurts
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them not at all really like there's
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there's no way it's going to be some big
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seller if they have an amazing surprise
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like this doesn't affect anything
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whereas for the iPhone and the iPad you
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can see that it makes sense that Apple
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wants to have some some sort of drama
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around the release events so I would say
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like I felt like oh this is good I would
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hope that maybe it's not just a one-time
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thing like oh god we effed up so bad
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this time we really have to go on record
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like yeah maybe this is a thing that you
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guys can just do with this narrow
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section of the proline and and save
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yourself a whole lot of grumbling from
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the peanut gallery yeah and and so I
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think that's that's a totally fine thing
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all that said oh it doesn't you have not
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pleased me right yeah I am I'm still I'm
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still sitting here upon my throne of
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judgment unmoved because this is still
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just words you know reading over the
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transcript it feels a bit like we
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decided last Tuesday we got to change
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direction and I still stand by
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everything I said in the last episode
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which is you know even if Apple releases
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everything I could possibly hope for in
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my heart of hearts this year I'm still
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not going to feel good about it until I
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see that there are regular updates you
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know and it's really funny actually you
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know just talking about when when we
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started this show was just before iOS 9
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which was the operating system that
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really kicked off everything being Pro
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it's like oh wait a minute like when I
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try to think like oh how long have I
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been doing this show the answer is feels
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like I've been doing it forever it's
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like oh yes and that's how long I've
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been using the terrible multitasker
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switcher on iOS as well right it's for
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the entire length of this show I feel
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like an implicit
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part of software is the promise of
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iteration and and like and that's what I
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want to see and that's what will make me
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feel better because even if I get an
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amazing gigantic iPad pro and the new
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operating system has a dark mode and has
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everything I could possibly want and you
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can do multi multi tasking of
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multitasking inside of your multitasking
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even if it has all of that I'm going to
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be sitting there with the feeling of
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like okay but do I have to expect that
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the way it works today is the way I'm
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going to have to use it for the next two
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years like that that's the thing that I
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want to feel like has has changed right
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and and that's also why not to get into
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the whole thing again but just briefly
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like that's also why the workflow
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acquisition concerns me because now we
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also know that workflow there's benefits
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like officially they're not going to
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update it anymore and so whatever is
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going to happen there is going to be now
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involved in Apple's overall production
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cycle so I feel like I won't feel
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perfectly calm about this until I can
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see that we're not going to go through
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two-year gaps where nothing changes that
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and but then I'll feel better then I'll
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feel better I still have a lot of the
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same feelings from last time and just
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like my biggest point and it's just that
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things are different and we need to see
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how they shake out the schedules have
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will change everything's different
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I do feel better that they've gone on
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record to say that they're renewing
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their commitment to the professional
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user that just makes me feel better
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mmm and it makes me feel better because
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it's such a none Apple thing to do that
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it means something to them so much that
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they decided to do it now rather than
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wait until WWDC in June when it's the
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exact same audience that are willing to
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listen that they thought that it was
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important enough to get in front of it
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and to talk about it now so I feel
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better from there
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but we've we have a rehashed a little
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bit what we were talking about last time
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brought many people to to question why
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we are not switching and one thing that
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was mentioned a lot because we mentioned
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switching costs and I want to take a
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moment to establish what we consider
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switching costs to be switching costs
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are not financial costs we're not
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talking about the price of buying an
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Android tablet and a Windows PC yeah
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yeah more than anything
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yeah we really need to emphasize it has
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the word cost in it but we're not
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talking about dollars here no and what
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we're talking about is upheaval is the
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effect it will have on time the effect
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that it will have on frustration me and
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gray really know how to use our Mac's
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like we really know how to use those we
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know how to use Final Cut we know how to
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use logic we know everything about all
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of the little utilities that we have
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little cord I don't really know anything
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about the programs that I would need to
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use on Windows mm-hm
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and honestly I don't want to take two
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weeks out of my business to relearn
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everything mm-hmm that's the big thing
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this is what we're talking about here
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it's the idea of going here is a new
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thing you haven't used this ever at all
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or in like 10 years
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learn it mm-hmm like I don't even really
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understand how the file structure of
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Windows works anymore you know like
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where things get saved and stuff like
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that because on the Mac a bunch of that
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stuff just happens automatically now
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right like your files just get saved for
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you and you know there's like it's all
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back topic I know how well it works I'm
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sure that there are things like this for
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Windows I'm sure that there are things
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like this for Android but the thing is
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we don't know them so if I was to say
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right I'm switching to Windows I can't
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produce shows the next day mm-hmm like
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my business has to shut down why I
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relearn all of this stuff or I can try
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and do them together at the same time
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which is still like there's stuff I
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can't do if I'm trying to learn it so
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the switching costs it's just like what
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it would
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take for us to have to start again
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mm-hmm and all of the things that could
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fall out of that like if I'm trying to
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learn a new piece of software I'm gonna
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screw up more and screwing up more has
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many costs to it like if I'm putting out
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shows of broken audio in them because
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I've done something stupid of an
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application it's going to upset people
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and it's gonna make people maybe not
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want to listen to the episode it's gonna
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make advertisers unhappy because I might
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screw up something right like there are
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so many things that can fall out of this
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because you would effectively be
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changing our entire pipeline of how our
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production is mm-hmm and that's a big
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potential risk therefore that's the
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switching cost yeah the other thing with
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switching costs that I think is it is
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hard to see until you think about it but
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it is the enormous stock of knowledge
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you have about a system that you don't
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even really realize that you have and so
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like when you've used a platform for 10
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years you build up a whole whole
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compilation of index cards that are
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filled with little tricks and tips about
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like oh under this particular situation
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this thing will make this work a little
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bit better or like oh I remember this
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problem I know how to solve this like
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just give me two seconds and I'll get
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this done and you just don't realize how
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much of that is built up whereas every
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once in a while I have to help my my
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father with his Windows PC and I am so
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aware like it is not that that a Windows
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is like a worse system but it's just
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like I have no repertoire of knowledge
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of how to help with any with even like
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problems that would be the most trivial
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of problems to solve it's like I have no
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idea where to start
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and when you're talking about computers
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it just it's it's everything right it's
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how you spend so much of your time doing
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everything that you do and then like
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even just as a little example you talk
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about relearning programs it's like oh
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yeah that would take some time to do it
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would take dozens of hours per
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application but then when you are
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invested in ecosystem you also know all
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of these ways
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to help out what you're doing and so
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it's like oh when I'm editing stuff in
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Final Cut like I'm doing some animations
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there are now plenty of times because I
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have enough experience doing podcasts
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that I'll pop the audio out of Final Cut
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bring it into logic do a bunch of edits
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and logic and then put it back into
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Final Cut right I was like okay well now
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here's a case of it's not like oh I just
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need to learn relearn the video editing
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software it's like I also need to
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relearn the audio editing software right
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which multiplies out if I want to do
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videos on a new system how long is it
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going to take and then there are there
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are just so many ways that all of the
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applications that we use connect with
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each other and and it's a thing that you
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build up over time and so when we're
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discussing switching costs I think it's
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very important for people to understand
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we're not even really talking about oh
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it's going to take me a couple dozen
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hours to relearn a professional program
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to the speed that I am at now it's like
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we're talking about literally hundreds
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and hundreds of hours of time that you
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would need to invest to get to the same
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level of proficiency and to have the
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same number of tools available that can
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reproduce everything that you do all day
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long in professional and personal
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capacities is like that's what the
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switching cost is right and that's why
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it is so enormous to move from platform
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to platform one other one for me a lot
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of my business a lot of the shows that I
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make are based around Apple mmm if I
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switch from Apple can I conduct my
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business mm-hmm like if I become an
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Android user the shows where I talk
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about the iPhone a lot that's going to
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get a bit more difficult to do yeah
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that's going to be a big problem for me
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so the reason that we stick with Apple
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even we're frustrated with them is
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because the other option is a nuclear
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one yeah so when we are just frustrated
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the beginning of our frustration is not
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the beginning of the switch right like
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yeah if we just start
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get frustrated which we are it's not the
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time Lulu the frustration must continue
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for a long period of time before we're
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willing to make a change so I understand
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that people listen to us and they find
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it peculiar
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and I and also understand I'm sure many
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people have made that switch but there
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was a reason for them that compelled
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them enough and we're not at that point
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yet we're just now getting to the
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beginning of a frustration so really
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let's see how the next 50 episodes go
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and then we'll work out where we are
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you're going to take some of these
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quotes for episode 100 yep when we're
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both on Windows 12 look how stupid they
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were they said they would never leave
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Apple by the way have you seen my Google
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pixel 12 it's beautiful
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my surface studio 4 is amazing yeah look
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at that the the entire desk is a screen
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