Roderick on the Line

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00:00:12 ◼   ► slash supertrain hello hi John [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► hi Merlin how's it going good how are [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► you I'm doing great [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► wow you do you sound great [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► yes I've decided that I'm Pepe today or [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► permanently [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► oh I don't know you know just try to [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► look on the bright side of life you [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► don't know saying yeah I mean that [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► lasted for a minute or two there yep yep [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► you just keep looking at the chimneys [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► you know I'm saying [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► looking at the chimney that's what they [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► say they say look at the chimneys when [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► you're walking around [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► most people will like stare at the [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► ground or stare at the middle-distance [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► try to remember to look up look at the [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► chimneys it will look you look at the [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► chimneys it'll elevate your mood yeah [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► you'll see the chimbley sleeps bear oh [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► boy oh yeah look at the chimneys I don't [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► know it's like diets [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► who knows if those things actually work [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► looking at the chimneys looking at the [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► chimneys but if you tell yourself it [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► works it might work yeah smile when you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► sing that's right and smile when you [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► talking to the phone not as good as a [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► wink to a blind bat is that right smile [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► when you're talking to the phone I guess [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► so that's my mom I try that said that [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► she's in sales she learned that when [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you're talking to someone smile yeah how [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► does this is this podcast sound better [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► what - deranged clap let's try and set [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► up them it sounds pretty good kind of [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► weird if we could do the whole show like [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► this that we could I bet from now on if [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► we just smiled through the whole show [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► it'd be a much more we said scared [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► we sound very scared have you noticed [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► that I mention this before but if you [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► listen to a sportscaster talking about [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► sports yeah the sound that they make is [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► the same exact sound as if you were [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► yelling at somebody because you're [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► really mad at [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► anything is heavily compressed probably [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► no no I mean I don't mean the asana [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► thing they're normal they're normal [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► voice it sounds like they're like [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► yelling somebody in traffic or something [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► yeah exactly like here he comes that is [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► that you know it's just like it's uh [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► it's the same it evokes the same that is [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► so interesting like if you like you know [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► you think about like when you listen to [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► like people calling like South American [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► as they say football games you can get [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► that vibe clearer if you're not a native [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► speaker because the tone just sounds so [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► manic oh yeah they're really upset I'm [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► interested in in the radio host Alex [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► Jones I'm very interested in him and so [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► well I don't want to get too far into it [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► I've talked about this a lot of places a [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► lot of times very interested in Alex [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► Jones but you know I turned to you as an [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► industry expert like I've heard him when [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► he just talks and yells he has a very [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► low and very kind of grindy voice in [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► real life but but when they record him [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► for his show for his YouTube stuff for [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► his radio show they do something I think [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► they do something to his voice I think [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► it's something they do to a lot of talk [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► voices and I always it I'm right it [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► sounds bigger it sounds growler it [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► sounds more evenly growly do you know [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► saying is that is that quality of the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► microphone do you think it's compression [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► like would aural enhancement like what [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► do you do to make some noise out like [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► this like not how we're talking it's [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► mega compressed mm-hmm um you know [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► because it's compressed it's compressed [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► at the source and it's compressed up the [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► chain and then it's you know it's got [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► that crazy radio compression on it too [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► okay when I think of like AM radio [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► especially and that the particular kind [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► of sound somebody on like talk radio he [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► that's mostly compression well so what's [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► funny about that compression is I was [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► having a very very interesting [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► conversation with the radio DJ not very [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► long ago a professional professional was [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► somewhat better KEXP John well he was [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► describing an experience of going to kxb [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► he is himself not a KEXP DJ [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► but but he was going there to do an [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► interview and talk to some KEXP [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► people you know talk to talk to the [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► professional KEXP DJ's and he got there [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► and he said that little trick of the [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► trade that the KEXP DJ who is a who's [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► fairly famous person in these parts at [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► least not your morning guy well you know [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► let's just say for the sake of yeah for [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► the sake of argument let's just say it's [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► a morning guy give some legal reason [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► that you're being so desi about who [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► these people are [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► well you know small town here huh and [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► people get really you know that he's [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► always brought times John Frye you know [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► you want to be careful who you tell [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► people you know yeah yeah so Amos st [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► setup so here he is and he's doing this [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► interview with the guy and he [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► immediately recognizes that he's got the [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► he's got the compression on on their [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► interview like it's super slammed and [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► he's got it so that his voice the the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► host is just always going to be a little [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► bit louder a little bit like better then [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► the guest he gets the Alpha setting the [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► the gorilla mindset setting yeah but but [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► my my my um my companion in this [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► conversation says he recognized the [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► compression was so crazy that he just [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► started talking really quietly and the [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► compressor then because he was talking [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► so quietly the compressor would would [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► super super grab on to his voice and and [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► it made him the louder of the two [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► because he was he was working with the [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► be understood that the compressor was [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► set in such a way that the more quietly [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► you spoke the more the compressor would [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► work and and it was it was actually [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► making his voice appear louder by virtue [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► of just talking more and more [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► quietly why so he was he was he was like [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► gaming this guy's compressor settings in [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► the interview and and you could you buy [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► the story you could tell that that the [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► other DJ recognized what he was doing [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► but you know is some somewhat powerless [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► because this is his tone missus his [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► setting this is his tone he can't start [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► to get weird and tell you going I can [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► all get all like uh AOR yeah he had a [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► mage a he had to maintain his tone his [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► vocal sciences that's his local brand so [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► this other you know this other character [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► was just like yeah that's very [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► interesting good question and it was [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► like really you know his voice was [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► really I think filling up people's ear [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► ear holes so Alex Jones may in fact not [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► be making that much noise he's got the [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► gravel and his voice he's talking yeah [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► I'm a nice guy but he's but he's maybe [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► not making that much volume it might be [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► that that his compressors are doing all [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► the work cuz if you talked like that all [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► the time you would be blowing your voice [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► look like you could say I remember [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► hearing a thing on public radio where I [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► hear about these things about I believe [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you can take a class to learn how to do [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► like shredding metal vocals in a way [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► that doesn't wreck your voice apparently [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► there's a method for doing that if you [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► do it the way it sounds like you should [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► do it you'll just you'll shred your [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► voice how did Bobcat Goldthwait do that [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► all those years oh I don't know I think [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► he's just a little broken inside he's uh [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► but you know that you're right this part [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► of the brand so it's probably also [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► fairly heavily gated so every word but [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► like with a fast gait like a strong but [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► fast gait right mm-hmm strong Bathgate [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► I'm this more than really understand is [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► a great TV show Bathgate also didn't [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► they do that song daenam in linen linen [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► a nail down fast course fascinate [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► clothes you will what yeah I'm still [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► smiling [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► uh well the you know uh the big big [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► reveal for us in the in the Rock and [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► Roll scene was realizing that Chris [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► Cornell made almost no sound at all huh [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► Chris Cornell of Soundgarden rumor was [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► that he earned through monitor guys [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► because he had this sort of him that [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► this impossible situation which was he's [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► fronting this massive band and if you [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► listen to the records you know is [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► fucking killing it but in fact he's [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► making like he's moving very very little [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► air and he's just like oh yeah what now [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► and he figures it out oh that wrote that [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► means that in the midst of all of that [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► very very loud noise they've got to be [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► able to bring up his vocals without [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► causing feedback correct [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► that sounds very challenging correct [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► they've got to be able to bring up his [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► vocals in the monitors right like it at [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► the front of the house trigger ly if [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► you're playing super big rooms you know [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► you've got a lot of you can do a lot up [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► there right to make everything sound [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► right if you're good at at front of [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► house but you know that I think [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► especially before in-ear monitors your [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► monitor guys just like look man I'm [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► giving you all that I can and he's that [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► play he's up there saying I can't hear [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► myself Oh fine fine more uh-huh pretty [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► crazy but but that may have been true of [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► that may actually be true this and I've [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► wondered this for a long time it may in [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► some or another way be true of all those [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► guys [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► maybe Kurt Cobain wasn't seeing that [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► loud maybe none of them sing that loud [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► maybe I'm an idiot because I didn't [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► understand now I didn't understand how [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► microphones work [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► Django so working harder not smarter [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► that's exactly what what I terrified him [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► like I got up there when I first started [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► playing rock music and I thought that's [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► what it sounded like and [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► I was capable of making that much noise [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► what I was capable of making as much [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► noise as it sounded like and so I would [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► just scream into these microphones I [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► didn't need to I could have just been [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► like lot of data data data instead of [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► you know I was really going for it at [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► the end of a show I lay down on the [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► floor panting and did when I was 20 [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► uh-huh did you have to I could have just [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► been using the microphone I could have [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► just turned up the knob just use the mic [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► but this isn't something we revisited [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► several times in the past but the [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► especially when you're when you're [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► touring and let's say you're in Europe [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► or you know really anywhere it's really [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► it's a different night every night in [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► terms of the setup and the sound you [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► know what all your stuff should sound [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► like but you know it could be you just [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► get the you know the sound man is too [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► high and the bartender has to run sound [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► or something right where you have to be [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► don't you have to be very self [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► sufficient to like where you could [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► almost do without monitors if you had to [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► I mean in the way that you prepare you [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► can't assume that you're going to get [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► those Radiohead ear buds and stuff like [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► that yeah but you I mean you work - I [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► think what you you you work with in the [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► house that you built in your own mind so [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► if if if I had started out singing you [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► know like well I just have these words [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► to sing at this volume I would I would I [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► would be adjusted intended by your ex [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you're so good thank you I just be [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► sitting on the couch while you're [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► recording right you read out you write a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► hit song it's just a listen I am looking [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► out the door and I can see the outside [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► crying chorus door door door [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► you see spoon means different things [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► it's different oh yeah right geez oh [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► that's what I kept saying to people [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► didn't they're not really listening [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► teaspoon every time I say teaspoon it [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► means a different things it's different [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► thing yes it's your fault that you don't [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► understand that there's five teaspoon [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► and their five to fucking shame on them [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► you have to explain your teaspoons to [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► anybody boo yeah so he's like oh that [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► Lulu says teaspoon no it says five [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► different things about teaspoon teaspoon [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► maybe wasn't down with the heist piece [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► boom baby wasn't down with the heist [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► just trying to do what I thought was [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► right baby wasn't dead was down with it [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► she was not down was not down with it I [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► was you know using street vernacular [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► there how that's true uh but you know I [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► can't go back I can't go back and do [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► that I can about you've already built in [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► your mind and like now that mortgage is [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► paid off whether you like it or not [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► let's be honest you live in your house [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► mine yes yes yes all right as long as [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► we're talking tech and this is where [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► we're really gonna lose a lot of people [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► yeah you know I don't know if you've [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► ever noticed when we're recording you [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► have better ears than I I don't know if [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► you've ever noticed but sometimes when [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► we're recording you may occasionally [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► hear the sound of a streetcar a going by [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah probably I don't notice it if [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► you go back and listen you'll probably [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► you've heard it probably a couple times [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► ding ding okay here's my question to you [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► there's only a minimum of things that I [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► can do with damping there are some [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► things I could do but that is is it's a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► multi-ton train here comes one right now [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► rattling the ground and shaking where I [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► am let's set aside that I made a [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► terrible decision to be next to a [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► streetcar line - oh the corner goes you [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► might know you probably didn't hear it [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► but that was a train that just went by [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► yeah and would I be well-served to get [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► I'm just these are words I've read on [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► the internet and never said out loud [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► what I be well-served to get a car toy [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► or supercar toyed microphone would that [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► help minimize the amount of occasional [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► streetcar sound that people hear on this [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► program [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► hmm I'm currently using a shure uh i [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► think it's an 87 a beta 87 a is what i [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► use right that's a that's a nice [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► microphone and you you are on a classic [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► SMB right no right now I'm on my own you [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► dingus my B caster remote microphone [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► that's the one you can put in your tummy [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► when you talk right that's right that's [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► currently I [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► a staged on a book a giant coffee table [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► book about the history of the Brooks [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► Brothers company the people who make [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► suits yes huh [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► now the people that make suits you know [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► it's a venerable company we it's that's [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► one of those terms that we use when we [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► don't know what else to say its [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► venerable and this different Bobbie [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► Brooks like in the John Cougar song it's [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► different yeah you know blame Bobby [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► Brooks let him do what he pleased uh [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► that must be some kind of short short Oh [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► Bobbie Brooks okay or busy ISM yeah [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► maybe it's a maybe it's a saddle shoe or [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► something okay sorry I've got a Midwest [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► thing figures in one of the little text [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► uh doesn't matter talking with some [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► other people who do these things they [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► were talking about the need to do [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► interviews yeah um and being in a an [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► environment where picked up lots of [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► background sound and one suggestion was [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► to get something called car toy tour [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► super car toy now is that a super tight [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► grouping of where that it will pick up [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► the sound is that what that means a [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► super tight car toy is you're saying is [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► a car toys oh it's a I think it's I'm [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► gonna look it up I think it's a kind of [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► car toy super yeah car toy boy see my [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► pretty further okay it could be hyper [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► car toys a car - car - what the what [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► they're talking about is car totality Oh [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► car card cardioid cardioid cardioid is [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► part of the body part okay so so what [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► will edit that out party oh yeah [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► cardioid is an artery okay so I should [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► not get one that has a narrow arteries [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► that would not be good for me as a man [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► of my age no I think you're gonna want I [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► think you're gonna want one with this [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► big car toyed artery as you dare to put [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► a stent in my mic yeah yeah the thing [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► now so in terms of your in terms of your [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► like your Carty ID microphones you can [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► you can adjust that on a lot of [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► microphones the one that you have right [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► now you cannot the the the sure the the [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► big dildo one that everybody likes the [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► one you like for singing that what is [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► that SMB so what's called that's some [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► seven [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► seven that one you get little clickers [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► on the bottom right yeah you can you can [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► adjust I mean a lot of microphones like [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► the one that I'm I'm talking into right [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► now um has has settings it doesn't it it [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► doesn't it doesn't actually say cardioid [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► but it does say like you've got your get [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► your mono and then you can switch it to [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► your stereo really and key do the [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► roll-off thingy the roller thingy isn't [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► their thing yet on the bottom of the of [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► the sure there's a little wave I don't [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► know what it does but if you get [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► yourself a little a little tiny like [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► eyeglasses screwdriver you can puck [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► scoot that over and that doesn't that [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► change your amount of base and whatnot [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► yeah you can you so there are things [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► called high-pass filters and they're [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► things called low-pass filters and just [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► as they sound if you put a high-pass [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► filter on something it lets the high [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► sounds pass and does not let the low [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► sounds through it will it'll roll the [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► low off because there's things in in in [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► audio there are at the low end and at [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► the high end there are sounds that [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► although you can't hear them let's say [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► you can't hear them they can take up a [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► lot of space in your mind house hmm [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► so interesting there's all this low-end [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► information that can get put into a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► recording that I mean there's certainly [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► there's a lot of it that you can hear [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► but there's also a lot of it that maybe [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► you can't hear but when you take it away [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► you can hear the absence of all this [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► garbage you know like it it's not it's [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► it's it's sonic information that is [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► below the level of like a recognizable [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► note interesting so it's not going to be [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► jamming up the signal with something [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► that doesn't need to be there yeah you [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► cut it out then you get and yen you you [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► cut it out up to the level that you're [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► getting like oh that's a note that [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► belongs there or like in a kick drum [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► you know you you don't want you don't [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► want unlimited low-end [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► because it goes down there and it [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► collects in the corners and it's full of [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► dust and skin flakes oh you have to [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► probably like drain it or get like it's [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► a detail it like you get a q-tip and get [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► all that stand out of there it's it's [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► all it's all down there and it's going a [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► little lower and it just adds garbage to [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► your sound and it's true in our voices [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► right if you have a double a double kick [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► drum you get but I imagine at least [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► twice as much you get it's three times [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► as much but it's an additive quality [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► it's a logarithmic curve that's science [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► okay and at the top-end it's also true [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► that way way up high again not stuff [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► that you maybe necessarily can actually [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► hear like pinpoint and say like I hear [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► that but way up there there's all this [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► way way up at the top that is also [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► clouding your sound and and and causing [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► you disarmed me and I think I think the [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► way it's described is that that stuff [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► will harmonically resonate with things [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► that you can hear it affects the sound [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► of the things that you that are audible [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► to you because sound interacts with [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► these with itself right and so high-pass [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► filters and low-pass filters you put on [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► in order to kind of collect this the [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► information that you want which is here [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► in this area where we can hear but you [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► can add weird top-end [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► to things to make the make it sound [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► brighter or make it feel like the roof [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► is taller there's all its sound is this [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► crazy thing where you can you can make [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► the room sound like it's a different [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► room by virtue of how you how much of [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► this strange top-end that you put in it [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► that you that you're not actually [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► consciously here it's such a it's such a [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► dark art I mean I guess this is really [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► obviously somebody who's done this for a [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► living and you know I've done some of [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► this not so much for a living but like [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► she's amazing how many factors are [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► involved I watched a pretty interesting [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► YouTube video the other night does just [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► in passing [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► that was about this guy in I want to say [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► England who has gone to great time [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► expense to essentially recreate every [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► aspect conceivable a 1950s Sun studio [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► type setup and it was and he just even [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► as an amateur it was fascinating to [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► watch I'll find the link for you but [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► basically he's this guy who wanted to [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► say say like he's he's try this is his [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you know his differentiating factor is [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► that he has like a legit like operating [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► 50s it's just all the whole stack is all [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► like you know no later than the 50s [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► technology and what the experiment they [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► did was to see what you could do the [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► best way to do like a Bill Monroe type [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► one mic setup to record a band versus [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► what you can do with two mics and it was [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► so fascinating hear him talk about like [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► I guess you know mics have different [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► dead spots like having to do with the [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► car Toit as you say but basically like [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► how you put the drums up this far away [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► and in this area so that they only get [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► picked up by this part of the mic it was [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► fascinating the what a dark art it was [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► to get that done right unbelievable and [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► what's crazy is that now we we all are [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► listening to stereo music recorded [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► stereo and mix stereo what's a mixed [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► stereo which means that across the [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► stereo field typically what we do is we [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► put the drums on the bass right up the [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► middle which means that they are equally [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► present in both sides of the stereo [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► field because if you put the bass over [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► one side the low end the bass [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► information is so for lack of a better [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► term heavy it's really distracting the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► Ramones for stoutness like that yeah I [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► think the memory serves the Ramones is [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► drums in the middle [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► I believe bass is all on one left the [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► right channel and then guitars on the [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► other channel yeah it's it just feels [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► miss it feels unbalanced it feels poorly [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► weighted your your your attention is [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► drawn over to the heavy you know bass [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► has gravity and it pulls you it pulls [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► your ear now on on the on the Beatles [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► records of course we've [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► finally made it to the Beatles mm-hmm [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► hello because those records were so [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► pioneering the you know the original [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► mixes of all those Beatles records word [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► mono and when it was time to mix them [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► for stereo which was considered a novel [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► like kind of weird experimental thing [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► that only weirdos would listen to nobody [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► had stereo music equipment at the time [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► you know like stereo home listening [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► equipment they made these stereo mixes [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► and in those cases they did put the [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► drums over here and the bass over there [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► but it was just that we're dealing with [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► George Martin who was genius and somehow [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► those are really fascinating to listen [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► to but but we have we've fallen into [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► these habits in recorded music bass and [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► drums up the middle guitars panned wide [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► this guitar over here that guitar over [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► there and then your vocals right up the [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► middle - but then harmony vocals spread [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► liberally over here and then you're [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► gonna get your little piano on the you [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► know half way over on the right where a [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► little bit of it's on the left but it [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► sounds like it's in the space right yeah [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► and and the worst offenders are those [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► drum drum recordings where they actually [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► record the drums and and mix them [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► stereophonic lee so when the drummer [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► starts to start his fill it starts in [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► your left ear and goes to your right ear [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► it's like a buddy buddy buddy did this [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► on commander thinks aloud to much [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► acclaim well well but but that was a [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that was a different trick which was [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► that different parts every different [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► spread yeah every one of those was a [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► mono recording of a full drum kit and we [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► just situated those different mono [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► recordings across the stereo field so it [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► wasn't alike but boo-boo-boo-boo-boo in [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► the in that same way of like we have a [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► we have 10 mics on this drum kit and we [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► have each one of them arranged [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► differently in the in the stereo field [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► it was like no his kick drum is [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► happening [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► in six different drum tracks know how [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► you hit I don't know how person's mind [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► could work like that no it's not a mind [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► it's a he did something else it's a you [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► know is that that anyway so Chamberlain [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► was that I want magic but so your your [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► cardioid what that is is it's a [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► microphone it's a it's a directionality [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► of the microphone and if you're talking [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► into just sort of an omnidirectional [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► microphone it's picking up everything [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► all the way around it equally and that [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► would be very distracting if you were [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► sitting talking into a microphone like [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► that because it's a train would go by [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► and it would be just as loud as as your [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► voice that's not good I don't want that [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► right well that's not what you're doing [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► you know your your little your little [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► sure beta 87 is it's very directional I [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► mean if you if you turn the mic away and [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► talk into the side of it it's gonna it's [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► going to pick up your voice not as well [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► right right and then that and your [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► microphone is actually very like [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► proximity effect is very important if [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► you get right up on that microphone it [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► sounds very different than if you're [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► five feet away from it or if you're even [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► two feet away from some right yeah I [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► mean the you know will your chair back a [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► foot and talking to it huh [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► okay here's me back here and we're [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► closer to it wanna know or I can speak [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► quietly and I'm proximity it so yeah [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► it's absolutely you know and so do these [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► things if you use that microphone [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► properly your you know your lips are not [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► going to be that far away from it at a [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► windscreen on it I got a I got this a [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► really cheap windscreen thing that Marco [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► recommended that's going to keep the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► sibling Sena message on my plosives your [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► plosive sound amazing thank you thank [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► you but the closer you get to that [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► microphone the more the microphone is [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► going to pick up and the better it's [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► going to work but so all this cardioid [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► stuff it's like ah here you're not going [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► to be able I don't think with with uh [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► with [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► adjusting the directionality of your mic [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► to like hyper-cardioid I still think [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► you're going to get that train in the [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► background because people would miss it [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► it's mostly it's a thought experiment [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► because I think their people would miss [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► the train let's be honest I would miss [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► it you could put a weird noise gate on [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► what you're doing but if you're talking [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► the mics gonna be open if you're if [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► you're worried about like the train [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► interrupting your co-hosts you could put [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► a you could put a like a some kind of [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► noise gate on it but I think that would [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► sound weird to you would hear this gate [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► opening and closing unless you had it [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► set really really nicely I think you [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► just I think it's just your sound I was [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► going to make a terrible dad joke about [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► a something a notional Joe pass filter [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► it would be too obscure of a joke to [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► make but I did discover that Joe passes [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► full name is Joseph Anthony Jacobi poss [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► ilaqua [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► oh my goodness isn't that a fantastic [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► name pause ilaqua [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► fossil aqua that is double aqua is [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► drinking water what is posilac well [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► people love it by the way in passing [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► people love it when we guess what words [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► mean in other languages you know really [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► loves that in my experience the Germans [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► the chaco the Germans love it when you [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► guess what things mean like you [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► stipulated we know now we know what ver [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► MOC means it means make war right uh [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► means that well I'm man who knows maybe [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► that's what possible aqua means possible [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► means make war when it made it maybe it [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► means passing water uh-huh pasa la qua [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► yeah pasa la aqua in English I passing [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► I'm passing the water transitively urban [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► dictionary pasal aqua is a baller a [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► person I see I ever been dictionary has [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► gotten real fast and loose about what [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► Allah accept that's a lot Urban [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► Dictionary has turned into you know it's [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► a great resource but it also like I [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► don't know there are 40 entries all [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► saying essentially the same thing but [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► everybody gets just everybody gets to [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► say it in their own way and that's [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► starting to get boring like it happened [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► with twin when the Republican candidate [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► made a remark on Twitter about something [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► being easy easy D what's up easy D and I [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► heard yeah so I know don't email me I [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► don't care but several people very [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► confidently gave very different [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► conclusive readings of what that means [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► some people said it's a sex thing [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► obviously you do yeah I'm going it's an [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► easy D and and I think it's maybe some [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► people think it's like a like a sports [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► term you know you know maybe it's like [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► easy defense or something but you know [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► or dictionary you know I actually [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► haven't looked up easy D on there lately [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► let me see what it says easy D uh-huh [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► easy easy D according to the dictionary [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► a top that's just really nice to say a [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► easy D you see this is a mess this is a [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► mess people see the jackals the Jackals [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► have gotten in here and now they're [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► monkeying around top definition easy to [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► the penis deeply desired by Donald Trump [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► see ya a CD second definition a man that [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► is easy to get sex from as in a woman [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► saying gosh I could really use some easy [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► D right now easy D stands for douchebag [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► president see you guys your students are [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► really drop in here yeah yeah a guy [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► that's easy the thing is the D has got [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► to represent something does it represent [TS]

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00:34:40 ◼   ► is the D it's represent Deez Nuts [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► if somebody says give me the D yeah what [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► is the D in this case well I don't in [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► the vernacular in the parlance of our [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► time I I'm guessing it means dick Oh [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► dick [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► yeah easy D yeah in my experience dick [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► is a word and I don't I'm not trying to [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► be normative here oh but I think dick is [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► a word that men use more often than [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► women [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► when specifically referring to a penis [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► of note uh in my experience they don't [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► say dick as much whoo girls yeah dick [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► sort of sort [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► boobs and tits type situation mm-hmm [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► mm-hmm I mean don't you feel like [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► there's differences in in in who uses [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► that in a not meant to be offensive way [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► but just like this is how I talk about [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► my body I have never heard a woman used [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► the word boobs I don't think really I I [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► knew some wife heard very few women say [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► tits hmm it's ugly its tits [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► tinnie tinnie word I get with it that [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► would write the word boobs BEW be s [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► that's really cute she would send that [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► in written communication Eve's but I but [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► I don't you know this is the thing right [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► I mean dirty talk how do you how do you [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► affect how do you pull it off even work [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► yeah it's a it's very confusing you [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► don't know you don't know exactly where [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► because it's all very all the words are [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► bad yeah you gotta be careful remarks [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► when you're exploring that kind of thing [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► you need you need to be real careful [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► well careful just because it's because [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► of it is spell breaking like it's it's [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► not it's not that it's not that it's [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► offensive so much it is or offense or [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► not offensive or whatever but you don't [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► want to make the other person laugh when [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► you are being serious right when here [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► laughs my dick and they go and he say [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► what that's something something bad has [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► happened it's gone off the rails you [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► know and if she says like oh I'm sorry [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the only person that ever used the word [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► dick was my grandfather hmm you know [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► like I I mean I I knew a girl who said [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► one time like her grandmother used the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► word twat what at just as a just as a [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► descriptor just as you now would say [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► vagina it was just some fucking [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► Appalachian thing where she would be [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► changing like the little girl's diaper [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► and like oh well here wipe her little [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► twat or whatever my goodness really [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► so this girl like that word which Allah [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► of us would feel like was like a pretty [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► tough work pretty edgy to her it was [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► just like a sweet little old comfortable [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► like country grandma word so everybody's [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► got a different everybody's got brings a [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► whole different bunch of suitcases into [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► that mind room and how the hell do you [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► do it you know like for a long time I [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► would never use vagina in that context [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► because it sounded like something that [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► your OBGYN [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► yeah it sounds a little bit kind of [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► collage achill but there but it is the [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► it is the term of art it's true and so I [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► think there are a lot of people that are [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► like listen there's not a lot of good [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► words here so just stick to the you know [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► stick to the main one stick to the road [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► right don't go off into the UM are you I [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► had I was fortunate enough to be seeing [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► a girl in college who had a really cute [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► one and it was so she had a she had a [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► little sister who was one of those [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► miracle babies like she was she was 21 [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► her brother was 19 and then her baby [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► sister was two yeah yeah yes her mom got [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► pregnant like 42 like out of nowhere you [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► imagine the surprise surprise guess what [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► a few things around yeah you thought you [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► were gonna go live on a cruise ship [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► didn't you and and her her mother would [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► when referring to her her swimsuit area [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► downstairs we'll call it all bottom and [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► I still think that's really cute yeah [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► but that's you don't want it you don't [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► want to be interacting with a girl [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► bottom I think it's sweet unless it's a [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► babble this is the thing this is the [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► thing boy bottoms I mean it in a fraught [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► power exchange no no I gotta get a girl [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► bottom there's also a bottom that's also [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► in as part of the mix down there like an [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► actual bottom hang on what yeah you're [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► right the beep the UH the the word so [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► for a while I was like look the word [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► pussy [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► is it's a nice word it's a sweet word it [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► means like a kitty cat yeah it's like a [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► sweet little it's it's so much better [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► than the other words can I just at least [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► eliminate the confusion in my own [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► universe by just using that word we'll [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► just that's it's a fine word I don't [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► mean anything bad by it it's just like [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► it just seems sweeter and I'd like to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► refer to that part of your body let's [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► say I'm saying to someone as an [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► introduction like hey now that we're [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► getting close let's work on so what's [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► the secondary yeah um and I encountered [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► quite a bit of uh like about the word [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► pussy which seemed very sweet but but at [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► least to people I know it's like sounds [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► it's cringy and I'm like at the same [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► time it is a word that many women I know [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► would use to privately refer to their [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► girl bottom mmm-hmm I'd say more so than [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► twat well I don't think anybody use this [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► twat unless you're a policeman yeah [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► clean out our twats so get so many [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► letters from what from the from the [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► McElroy brothers you know not all West [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► Virginians ha ha but you know like I'd I [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► can't use the word dick with a straight [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► face because it just I don't know it [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► passed on to the other so that's like [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► that's like a word ass like it that's [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► now a term of art dick I mean it's [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► somebody who behaves like a dick oh I [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► see what you're saying you know well [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► don't be an ass I use that I use it that [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► way but has come a long way but but bu [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► TT mm-hmm that's another very tricky [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► thing because everybody thinks about [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► their butt right everybody's got a thing [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► some thoughts about their own butt yeah [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► and it's unclear who wants what aspect [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► of their butt well who wants [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► attention call - what aspect of their [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► own but like oh I'm so glad you brought [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► this up yeah I really really am because [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► I think I think you can run into some [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► real danger zones if you're not fairly [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► specific about what you mean what we [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► talk about when we talk about butts I [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► think you can say you have a nice butt [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► which in that case might mean that the [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► shape of your posterior looks good in [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► pants [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► right I mean I think everyone at a base [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► level wants to hear that they have a [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► nice butt oh yeah yeah if you're getting [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► intimate with somebody to say just [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► casually sometime like not you know like [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► you can say it in the in the boudoir but [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► even if you're just like out on the town [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► and you've been dating for a while you [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► know to lean over and say like you know [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► what you've got a really nice butt that [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► will I think 40 years later that will [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► still be in their mind room that's a [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► really nice thing you said one time my [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► favorite mind room in their mind house [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► yeah that is a that's a freaking oil [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► painting over the fireplace of their [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► mind house right like my other once said [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► that you know just sort of like off hand [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► you have a really nice butt I got a [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► compliment [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► along those lines having to do with with [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► the with the swimsuit area I got a [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► compliment in 1986 that I still think [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► about yeah isn't that nice it's just [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you're right I know well paying in my [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► mind house it was I was like what would [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► have put a nice thing to say and she [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► said in a way that didn't feel forced it [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► was very it seemed like she she offered [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► it freely and of her own accord just in [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► passing and I still think about that was [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► those a long time ago that's what 30 [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► years ago yeah I mean that's the key I [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► was walking with my girlfriend one time [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► in a group of guys a group of all my [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► friends and we're kind of bringing up [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► the rear if you will and and we're on [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the way down to the bar we're going to [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► the NAR Tavern and there's you know six [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► guys ahead of us and we're walking along [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► and she just sort of casually under her [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► breath says you know like six guys I'm [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► not a single good but [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► and I was like whoa it had not occurred [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► to me that that she was looking at you [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► know and she was casual remark yeah but [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► I looked ahead and I was like okay [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► alright so looking at these six butts [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► none of them are good okay okay [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► memorize this memorize these butts and [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► understand that these do not these are [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► not goodbye so you went into Terminator [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► heads-up mode at this point like you're [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► just gathering information about this [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► new environment that you would later use [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► you're like an AI John you're gay I know [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► this this corpus of information to have [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► to apply in other circumstances looking [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► at these six guys ahead of us I would [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► have made a lot of assessments right [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► like oh this is a bunch of that you know [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► like this is a bunch of ding-a-lings or [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► none of these guys has any fashion sense [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► or you know whatever look like a bunch [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► of soccer players or whatever but I [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► would not have said that's gotta be up [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► there with is this your first day soccer [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► play what are you a bunch of soccer [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► buddy hey hey soccer player keep driving [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► but once you put a soccer on your head [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► and play but I but now yeah she had [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► given me this whole new field of [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► information to consider which was six [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► guys not a nice button in the bunch and [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► you know and of course the next nation [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► rich sentence yeah and here are levels [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► I'm the seventh guy right and she's [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► walking next to me she if I was up there [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► with those soccer players would she be [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► like there's one nice but in the group [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► or what it were or would there be sort [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► of a blanket like I mean it and at a [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► certain point if you're in if you're in [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► a crowd of six guys with not a nice but [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► how nice does your bud have to be to [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► stand out yeah yeah you know like is if [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► your butt is being assessed in all by [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► itself it might be like yeah it's a nice [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► butt huh [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► but if you're in a group of bad butts [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► yeah oh you get lumped in with them [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► interesting okay yeah so so uh so that's [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► the type of thing like the but if you go [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► any deeper into [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► a into like what you like about [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► someone's but it gets tricky right away [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► boy does it ever oh there's just levels [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► and levels it's it's a minefield the but [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► it's really tricky and particularly now [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► like the the the fashion for the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► millenniums is these high-waisted jeans [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► that we wore those were the fashion when [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► I was in high school too and they are [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► not the most becoming style because they [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► look really good on someone who has a [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► very pear-shaped bottom but they don't [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► really look good on everybody and [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► because yet because they're designed for [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► like a narrow waist and a sort of very [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► curvy you know like if they look they're [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► meant to look like a pair mm-hmm [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► exaggerated that particular curve do you [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► think they go up high like could it be [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► to like cover up a lower back tattoo or [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► do you think it's mostly to provide a [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► certain shape a suggestion of shape good [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► question I find them to be in the main [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► create less shape than them other pairs [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► of jeans because it in the in the early [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► 2000s the late nineties in the early [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► 2000s the gene technology I think really [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► focused your attention strictly on the [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► butt so that your lower back was not [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► engaged and your you know like your even [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► your your I mean I guess your your [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► thighs are engaged in a sort of general [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► but frame mmm-hmm this part the lamb is [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► the continuum of the synecdoche or [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► metonymy but there's there's a whole lot [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► of pieces and parts to talk about here [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► so much going on uh-huh but if you if [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► the if the jeans were focused strictly [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► on making the butt seem high and tight [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► which I think was the that was the [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► version of like seven jeans or whatever [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► that was that 90s 2000s late 90s early [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► 2000s like gene technology you could [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► have a narrow waist or why [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► waste you could have a you could be [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► hourglass-shaped or you could be square [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► and none of that was being the gene was [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► not interacting with the rest of your [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► body really it was just focused on [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► making your bottom look good [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► you're just the just the bottom and so [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► those genes were very successful and I [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► think they're very popular with people [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► my generation because we'd been [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► struggling always struggling to figure [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► out how to make your bottom look good [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► and making the maybe classic error of [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► thinking that your bottom starts up [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► under your arm and how do I make my [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► bottom look good when I don't have a [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► waist or how do I make my bottom look [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► good when I have a high waist or you [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► know and all this stuff and it was just [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► like oh no these jeans are low waisted [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► so they're not trying to be up in your [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► back and they just start thinking about [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► like how to make your bottom well so now [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► we're into these high-waisted jeans and [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► the high-waisted jeans are just by their [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► very nature they are including your back [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► in your bottom hmm there including waist [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► in your bottom and they're a lot there's [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► now there's a lot more going on and it's [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► part of them it's part of normcore I [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► feel like I said still a thing well I [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► just feel like in general the [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► millenniums are less fashion uh they're [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► I mean they they fashion still matters [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► but they're let they less give a damn [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► you know I just I feel like they're a [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► lot more free with you know you rep [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► whatever you want to rep I agree I think [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► there's a lot to admire about the [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► millenniums mm but my kids they don't [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► Jeff as they say they don't give an F [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► but the high waist Regina I think is a [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► is an error if I can if I can just be [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► like a ghost of Christmas past here [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► mm-hmm you don't if if you have a choice [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► just leave it unless you are unless you [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► really know for a fact that you are one [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► of the rare rare individuals you know [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and let in the nineteen seventies you [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► have those Gloria Vanderbilt jeans and [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► they look bad on everybody except for [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► one out of a thousand people if you're [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► one of if you know for a fact you're one [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► of those [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► like yes you can wear anything yes but [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► just in general you're not going to find [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► happiness I don't think in high-waisted [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► jeans I just don't think it's there but [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► you know like for instance if you if you [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► are somebody who's lette if you ever [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► were to say to somebody like you've got [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► a really big but I feel like you just [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► pulled the pin out of a grenade and [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► you're holding it in your hand and [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► you're also holding with your other hand [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► you're holding on to the edge of a clip [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► and you're and your feet are not your [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► feet are just swinging the air if you oh [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► but the grenade is also tied to a string [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► which is tied around your neck so if you [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► let go the grenade I was wondering how [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► you pull out the pin if you only have [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► one hand do the guy like a sergeant in a [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► movie that's right that's right you [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► pulled it out pulled out the pin and now [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► you're holding the grenade if you let go [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► of it in order to grab the cliff wall [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► okay then you've got a live grenade tied [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► around your neck [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► what if you're holding on to the cliff [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► by the grenade I don't think you can how [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► do you hold on to a cliff with the [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► grenade but I've never been in the [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► situation about saying it would really [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► work for the narratives that maybe maybe [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► it's just one little one little bit that [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► got stuck on there maybe it's on a root [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► right you know I'm saying but your your [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► only way your only survival is going to [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► be keep holding the grenade that's a lot [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► like that's a lot like talking about [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► somebody's but I see you went a [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► different direction with it I was going [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► in the like year there's no way out here [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► now I see I see but you were you were [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► saying like you're now you're [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► permanently lodged on the side of this [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► when the clip is made of grenades hold [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► it in head maybe if you zoom out far [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► enough you realize that the whole cliff [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► is a grenade [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► maybe the hole maybe the world is [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► exhibit is a universe it's not so [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► different than like the win are you [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► expecting gasps oh that's bad I mean you [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► know that the pad the powder that runs [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► do all of this I think is like before [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► you open your big mouth make sure you [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► understand what the play is right [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► what yeah I mean I have I have had [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► success with the had success with the [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► listen within the larger context you [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► have a very small but but within the [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► context of small buts you have a nice [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► big putt you understand yeah it's nice [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► that you know that did PowerPoint if you [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► can get you things you can't explain it [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► but if you can create an atmosphere [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► where you are able to say you have a big [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► butt but it's within the context of [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► being of having like a very small but oh [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► yeah but I mean couldn't you go with [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► something I don't know well see it [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► depends on what you're trying to [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► embarrass well like comically small not [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► like this abling Lisa yeah like you are [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► we have you a small bubble within that [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► context it's pretty large [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► right that was just being a baffling [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► depending on what you're trying to [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► accomplish [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► like if part of what you're trying to [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► accomplish is to just pay a pay a [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► compliment and walk away which could I [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► kill a stranger I don't think you can [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► refer to their butt at all just talking [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► about people's bodies is dangerous in [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► the Big Dance I'm talking strictly [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► within the context of somebody that you [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► are romantically involved in because you [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► should not be commenting on the body of [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► anybody else yeah unless you are just [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► unless you are strictly like in a [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► situation where you are either naked [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► with them or on your way to being naked [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► with them yeah and in that case and it [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► should in that case I think it should [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► always be only complimentary that's you [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► know until it's like high-waisted jeans [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► unless you have a reason I would stick [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► with complimentary oh there's no I don't [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► think there's any way you can make a [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► remark about someone else's body that [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► you are sexually gay is that supposed to [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► be like that yeah that's good in your [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► considered there's so many ways that you [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► can offer someone constructive criticism [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► but not in their not in their body now [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► while they're literally naked one of the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► oil paintings in my uh in my mind house [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► which is not over the fireplace it's one [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► of those oil paintings that you're like [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► do I put this in a bathroom where do I [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► put this bat what do I put this oil [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► painting but but a girl at college said [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► to me it's one of these great [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► compliments you have a great body if you [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► just did a few sit-ups oh wow that's and [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► I was like I have a great body thank you [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► if I just did a few sit-ups which I know [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► already I knew that I knew that I should [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► do some sit-ups [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► and ah thank you [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► you know like occasion in the [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► destructive she meant it [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► she was a she but she yeah it sounds [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► like consolation like she's consoling [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► you like hey fuck up little guy oh no no [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► it wasn't that it was that she was [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► trying to make me you know like like [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► I've dated a lot of she's like Nixon you [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► that's right who are trying to shape me [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► into they love me [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► ninety percent of Who I am is exactly [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► what they want [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► John John a project sent yeah that's [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► right it's the ten percent that's a [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► project that's very exciting to them and [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► in her case the ten percent was she was [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► just going to shape my body a little bit [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► just craft it a little bit so that it [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► was more to her liking and that involved [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► a little bit of sit-ups now at 23 I had [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► a dad bod and at 48 I haven't really [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► much exactly the same dad Bob so in that [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► sense I mean I'm not one of those 48 [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► year olds that still has a flat stomach [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► but it's because I never had a flat [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► stomach that single v in my life it's [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► just you doing you yeah that's right I'm [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► doing I think can I tell somebody I [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► think you can tell somebody that they [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► have a cute butt okay again they'd [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► better be somebody you're dating I do [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► not think you can say that to someone on [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► the bus or so they don't talk about [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► bodies at all John with anybody ever [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► oh dude this is all just speculative I [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► could not imagine saying any of these [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► words to people to like the to the clear [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► secretary to my second at your office [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► look Janice no Janice committed which [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► will give me a twirl [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► haha working nine to five yep cut about [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► you have kind of a big ass Janice Irene [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► was in the context of having a small I [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► think I'm a big one get back to that [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► dictation if someone said to me you have [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► a cute butt and and I have heard it over [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► the years but not and that's what are [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► you to work that in I had a feeling that [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► was coming that's one of your smaller [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► oil paintings but not enough times that [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► I believe it you know what I mean like [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► you know something was said universally [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► I would be like gee that's one of the [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► things that I know of [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► myself like universally women have said [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► that I have good legs [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► everyone is that right yeah and so I [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► believe it uh-huh because because [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► unbidden yeah it's just one of those [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► offhand comments like you know what [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► you're good legs [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► I heard back I feel like you could think [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► about you can think about your life and [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► what to believe in your life a little [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► bit like like my daughter was recently [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► looking at some of my old yearbooks and [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► from like like junior high and so many [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► of the things people wrote in my [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► yearbook are nearly identical and taken [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► as a whole they form a certain truth [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► that I could I could choose today sweet [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► well I could choose not we'll see stay [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► sweet even that you get enough of those [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► that mean something like this that's not [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► people filling up a whole page with that [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► time we made out at the roller rink [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► most of them many of them are uh you're [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► you're weird but cool you're weird but [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► cool you're weird but nice you're weird [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► but smart and the thing is that the [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► consistency to too many of these remarks [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► is that I am weird [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► that is the characteristic if you were [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► to put these into Excel what would [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► emerge is that in when I was 14 I was [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► weird and everyone said so right so in [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► that case I feel like that is whether I [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► like that or not or feel that's [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► distinctive or not the point is that's [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► the people speaking I heard that enough [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► noun open set in there you know and you [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► have sexy legs that was never an item [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► touch like right I could choose that [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► again I don't know if it's a synecdoche [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► arm autonomy or making things up but I [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► could just choose to believe that about [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► myself but I have not heard that often [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► enough that I think it's meaningful but [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► you have you've heard about your legs if [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► you look at my yearbook I think the I [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► think what you would put together over [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► the overall the comments it would be you [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► were a bastard to me for four years but [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► for some reason everyone likes you still [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► good luck and this continues now on [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► Facebook right don't get remarks from [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► people I think I hear still such an [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► asshole yeah you were absolutely [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► terrible to me but for some reason I [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► could never hate you [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► this is very confusing I hope I never [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► see you again but I also wish you well [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► um can forget that girl our license [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► plate back yeah I did we're friends now [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► um I feel like when I first met you and [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► when I would look at pictures of you [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► particularly [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► particularly [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► early pictures of you when you were in [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► college I my feeling was that Merlin man [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► was a very handsome guy and I have heard [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► several my friends have said this i [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► don't i don't see it i think i think [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► yeah i appreciate you saying that that [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► was your impression at the time uh well [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► you know the thing is you had feel like [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► you've aged well you have a kind of but [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► you know you have aged into a very like [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► appropriately interesting looking middle [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► aged man it's tough that you know you [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► have not fallen apart as well you know [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► there's always taught you like become [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► him more intensely I'm coming you I'm if [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► I were casting a catalog yeah a modeling [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► session like you'd be one of the type of [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► people that I would think like could [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► sell sell things still just with your [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► face Wow and that's not you know a lot [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► of people like there they face falls [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► apart um and it's just it's just that [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► God it's just what God chooses you know [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► it's not like it's not that for any for [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► any particular reason but I always felt [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► like you were handsome and did not [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► believe it did not know it or believe it [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► such that you never really capitalized [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► on your handsomeness you say anything is [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► this your is this your setup statement [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► for me like I could have been [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► good-looking if I like clean myself up a [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► little bit probably no no no it wasn't [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► that at all because you know I'll I I [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► think dirty is handsome no it was that [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► you didn't believe that you were [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► handsome so you never exploited it he [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► never went into a situation where you [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► where you please said well I'm handsome [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► that's all I'm gonna I'm gonna pull this [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► off because I'm handsome right yeah you [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► always you always carried yourself as [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► though the last thing you were the last [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► thing you believed was that you were [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► handsome or at least it wasn't like a [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► primary that's a that's a good [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► conclusion yeah yeah yeah yeah I think [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► for me I did not think I was handsome it [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► was clear I wasn't I was because I was [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► under I was undercooked [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► but at a certain point like a scallop I [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► did but at a certain point I think I [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► grew into my looks enough that now I [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► bamboozled people because I have [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► dramatic yeah charismatic right which is [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► you know which is this which is another [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► kind of awful comment now a really [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► really nice personality [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► yeah body room clothes good cook actly [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► exactly this is the thing type of thing [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► that my friend's parents said to me in [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► high school you know you're gonna grow [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► into your looks you're you're you're [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► very handsome ah in the sense that it as [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► an adult you will be handsome the things [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► people say to other people yeah where [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► you're just like yeah I was trying to be [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► helper for I would have preferred to be [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► like cute in high school but I guess [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► that wasn't what that wasn't my fate [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► like I was so we played a show the other [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► day and we got this three guys from my [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► high school showed up and you know three [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► guys that had never seen me play [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► actually one guy wasn't from my high [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► school he was from my ski team but he [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► was you know within Anchorage [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► if you were on the ski team by which I [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► mean initially the Alyeska mighty mites [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► and then ultimately graduate to the [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► Alyeska junior racers it was not a ski [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► team in the sense that we it wasn't like [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► a high school ski team where you [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► competed against other ski teams it was [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► a ski Kolob a ski culture where we you [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► competed against one another and then [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► the great ones went on to compete [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► nationally and then internationally it [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► was like it was like a like a like a [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► farm club for the for the world and I [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► think now in Alaska the high schools [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► have ski team downhill ski teams I'm [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► talking about they always had [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► cross-country teams that competed [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► against each other but now I think they [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► have downhill teams and it might be a [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► club sport like a like a what intramural [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► sport yeah but so one of the guys from [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► the ski team who went to a different [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► high school but he was part of our [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► larger gang because he because we were [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► all skiers together [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► so these three guys came to my came to [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► my my rock show and the in particular [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► the one that I knew from ski club that [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► was not from my high school he looks [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► exactly the same he looks the same as he [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► did when he was 16 and we're reaching an [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► age where that that's strange now when [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► that happens it's it's but I mean he [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► looks like a man he doesn't he's not [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► like he doesn't have a like a like a [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► sweet face or something he looks like a [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► full-grown adult yeah but he looks he [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► looks the same he would be instantly [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► identifiable as himself in a way that a [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► lot of people my age aren't a lot of [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► people I see that are my age and I'm [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► like I know you don't I and they're like [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► yes we know each other very well and [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► then I'm like ah it's you hi you know [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► like they've changed considerably he [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► just looked exactly like himself and [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► what's amazing is that of everybody I [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► know he has created exactly the Alaska [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► life he's a doctor and I grew up in a [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► neighborhood that was close to the [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► hospital in the college and most of my [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► friends parents were doctors and a lot [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► of my friends went on to become doctors [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► but they all moved out of Alaska right [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► so there a doctor here there a doctor [TS]

01:05:44 ◼   ► there their doctor there and they're [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► living some other doctor life some [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► Bellingham doctor life or some you know [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► California doctor life but he's a doctor [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► he has an airplane which he uses all the [TS]

01:05:57 ◼   ► time ski plane in the winter and a flow [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► plane in the summer which is very Alaska [TS]

01:06:04 ◼   ► thing to do and he uses that airplane [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► both to or I'm sorry he uses it to hunt [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► mm-hmm and so he'll post pictures on [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► facebook of like we just went out and [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► shot this giant elk or this mountain [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► sheep or whatever that is that they're [TS]

01:06:22 ◼   ► they're just out like hunting as part of [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► one of the things that they do as [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► Alaskans or they fly in somewhere and [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► catch giant king salmon [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► they they also put skis on it and fly [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► way up on the side of mountains and [TS]

01:06:41 ◼   ► everybody jumps out and you know and my [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► friend then flies the airplane down to [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► the bottom of the mountain and everybody [TS]

01:06:48 ◼   ► skis down the mountain and then gets [TS]

01:06:52 ◼   ► back in the airplane and fly back up and [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► land on the glacier and do it again like [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► this is the life that he is providing [TS]

01:06:59 ◼   ► for his children his teenage kids are [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► like let's go skiing dad and they get in [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► the airplane and they fly up and land on [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► the glacier and ski down like it's a [TS]

01:07:08 ◼   ► it's so Alaskan it just blows me away [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► how completely successfully he has [TS]

01:07:17 ◼   ► created this thing that seems almost [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► almost fantastical to me now having [TS]

01:07:24 ◼   ► lived in Seattle as long as I have but [TS]

01:07:26 ◼   ► was exactly kind of what that was the [TS]

01:07:30 ◼   ► environment I grew up in right your [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► friend's dad had a plane he flew you up [TS]

01:07:35 ◼   ► to their lake cabin and then you went [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► waterskiing and then he would fly you up [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► on the mountain and drop him it's just [TS]

01:07:42 ◼   ► like what kind of universe okay somebody [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► sent me a link to a video the other day [TS]

01:07:49 ◼   ► about this young woman who's like a [TS]

01:07:52 ◼   ► she's a young mother now and she'd been [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► an Alpine guide on Mount McKinley for [TS]

01:07:58 ◼   ► many many years and then after she had [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► her daughter she felt like being an [TS]

01:08:03 ◼   ► Alpina sk's was no longer I know was no [TS]

01:08:08 ◼   ► longer a safe job because she had a she [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► had a little daughter and every time you [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► go up on the mountain you risk dying [TS]

01:08:16 ◼   ► it's just the nature of going up on the [TS]

01:08:19 ◼   ► mountain the mountain decides whether [TS]

01:08:20 ◼   ► you get down or not and so up until that [TS]

01:08:24 ◼   ► point she'd been living a life where [TS]

01:08:26 ◼   ► every time you know her job was to go up [TS]

01:08:28 ◼   ► on the side of the mountain and try to [TS]

01:08:29 ◼   ► keep these people that are paying her [TS]

01:08:31 ◼   ► from dying and also as a you know as a [TS]

01:08:36 ◼   ► corollary to that try to keep herself [TS]

01:08:38 ◼   ► from dying but now she's a mom and that [TS]

01:08:40 ◼   ► doesn't feel right so she decided that [TS]

01:08:44 ◼   ► she was going to transfer her energy [TS]

01:08:46 ◼   ► into [TS]

01:08:46 ◼   ► becoming a bush pilot to fly the [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► climbers up and land them on the [TS]

01:08:50 ◼   ► mountain and her description of it why [TS]

01:08:52 ◼   ► it's way better is like well every night [TS]

01:08:55 ◼   ► I get to come home and sleep in my own [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► bed every morning I get to be up at [TS]

01:08:59 ◼   ► 14,000 feet on the side of this mountain [TS]