The Incomparable

00:00:01 ◼   ► the Intolerable number 352 May 2017 [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► incomparable very special episode we're [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► going to break from our tradition of not [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► talking about new release films to talk [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► about a new release film that's right [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy vol 2 we're [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► gonna talk about it I've seen at one [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► time I didn't take notes because I was [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► watching a movie in the movie theater [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► but we're still gonna talk about it with [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► these fine people helene Wecker is back [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► hello hi it wasn't Zardoz no it was not [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► sorry office that was the last thing we [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► inflicted on you so you know it wasn't [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► Zardoz kelly camonte is also here hi [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► Kelly [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► hi I'm really excited to be here and get [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► to talk about this yay David J Laura's [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► here as he is contractually obligated to [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► be I think hi David hi so trash Panda is [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► that bad is that good I'm just cuz you [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► know I get that it's bad and and chips [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► uttereth is here chip saw the movie [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► twice because he is a professional hi [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► chip chains keep us together Jason mmm I [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► thought you saw it three times once [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► twice three times but I saw the ending [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► of the movie once Wow well you did you [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► did your work you did your research I [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► think that's the important thing does it [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► you did your research so uh guardians [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► the galaxy vol 2 hot on the heels of [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy the original [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► volume 1 now retcon that um it was uh [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► you know guardians the galaxy the [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► original was one of the things about it [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► that I think appealed to a lot of people [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► is that it was a very different feeling [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► movie than what one might expect from a [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► Marvel Comics blockbuster and right I [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► mean it was like it didn't it didn't do [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► much tying in it had the wacky [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► soundtrack it was more kind of a fun [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► funny adventure and I feel like volume 2 [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► was very much informed by that like [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► let's lean into that let's do sort of [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► everything we did the last time [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► but a little bit more and a little bit [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► further the sound about right that would [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► everybody get that sense it's guardians [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► of the galaxy in volume let's not make [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► it ardian harder that's how they save [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► money [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► now volume going up in volume yeah the [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► Marvel movies up to that point they had [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► their light moments uh but guardians the [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► galaxy the original was just fun just [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► big fun I know some people who didn't [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► just embrace it wholeheartedly the way I [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► did it was it was like my favorite [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► Marvel movie and just magical and fun [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► and Star Wars II and stuff and I really [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► do think that they saw the things that [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► worked about guardians of the galaxy and [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► leaned in hard for this one oh yeah and [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► I mean I'm I'm right there with you know [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► shocked it's my favorite Marvel movie [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► because it's just fun and you know I saw [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► a lot of reviews of this one before I [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► saw it that we're like oh well you know [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► it does what the first one did and the [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► first one was surprising and this one [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► was fine but you know you can't you [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► can't do surprise twice so they did [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► whatever and and so they were a little [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► grumpy they were a little you know muted [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► and I came out of this one all you know [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► me and the boys saw it together we loved [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► it we all three of us liked it better [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► than the first one and and the thing [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► about both of them that I think the [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► reason we love them more than most of [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► the Marvel movies to carry on a running [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► joke is also location location location [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► it's very far away from anything else [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► yeah that's totally true one of the [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► things I enjoyed about it when I watched [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► it was to me it didn't feel like the [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► same movie again it just right like they [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► knew the moments that worked in the [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► first one and sort of like the mix that [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► they needed in order for the chemistry [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► to happen and so then that's what they [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► that's the parts that they sort of made [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► like they didn't shoot the same movie a [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► second time and like that was sort of [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► the impression I got from reading some [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► of those same reviews was that people [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► were like not into it and I'm like you [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► know not everybody goes to a Marvel [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► movie for Kenneth Branagh like some [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► people go to a movie for something like [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► I said not everybody they may not be [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► everybody well he only direct Thor so [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► after that he got involved but yeah [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► but like I I get very much it very much [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► feels to me like some of those people's [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► expectations weren't managed it feels [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► like these are the same people who [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► wanted so much more out of say the [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► Charlie's Angels movie than they got and [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► all I can say to those people is you [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► know what it's based on like manage [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► those expectations you have to go in to [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► me this felt like the first sort of [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► summer movie I guess with the air quotes [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► that you can totally see on a podcast [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► um that I've seen in a long time [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► primarily because it was late and fun [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► and like there was there were touching [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► moments there were some things that that [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► totally made me extra happy that I'm [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► sure we'll get into later but for the [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► most part I just I went in and I had [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► popcorn out of a baby group popcorn come [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► here and had a great time and when I [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► came out I felt better than I had when I [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► went in and you know I had been [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► completely entertained for those couple [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► of hours and it seemed like it was fun [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► and so it was I really enjoyed it it [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► looked beautiful it sounded beautiful [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► the actors all did an amazing job of [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► their performances and you know like [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► none of the CG stuff was super [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► noticeable to me which was one of my [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► hang-ups with rogue one so I was into it [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► I was there I was like totally with it [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► the whole time and had a blast [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► I'll be the the person who is more in [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► tune with the the critics blasphemer I'm [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► sorry sorry um I felt like this movie [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► just was much more aware of itself than [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► the first one the first one was such a [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► startling sort of Revelation and the it [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► to me that I went in and I was like I [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► didn't expect that in the least and this [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► one and I know that that's part of you [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► know the first movie and then you know [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► sequel itís the the it's it's part of [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► what you have to sort of deal with but [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► even sort of taking that into account [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► it was it wore itself much more heavily [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► than the first one if that makes sense [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► it will you could see the MA [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► tools and the sinews and the strings [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► moving in a way that I felt like I [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► couldn't with the first and maybe that [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► part of that was that the cast of [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► characters was a little larger and you [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► had to deal with more people sort of [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► running around and and being separated [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► from each other and not not to say that [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► I didn't like it because I really did [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► like it but I didn't leave with a song [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► in my heart that I did with the first [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► one and of course that's impossible [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► sometimes to duplicate so so even though [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► I I don't want to be the debbie downer [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► but I was like this one was a good movie [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► but I didn't have the oh my god I want [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► to go buy a ticket and see that again [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► way the reaction that I did with the [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► first one yeah I it's funny I think I'm [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► more with Helene here but although my [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► experience with the first movie I liked [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► it in the theater and every time I've [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► seen it since then I've actually liked [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► it more so I don't know how I'm gonna [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► feel about this one because I felt I [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► also liked it I appreciated it I did not [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► come out thinking it was the most [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► amazing movie ever but it may grow on me [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► I do agree I think one of the problems [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► with with replicating the success of [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► that movie is that it the original is [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► that it was a surprise and now we're you [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► know it was a surprise departure from [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► the tone of a Marvel movie and of course [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► with the cosmic setting it it was a [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► surprise and the surprise was part of [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► the fun and this movie is not a surprise [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► this movie is what it said on the tin it [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► is repair it's not it can't replicate [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► the surprise but it can replicate the [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► feelings and that's what it tries to do [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► and I think it does a pretty good job [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► although there are aspects you know [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► James Gunn who wrote and directed this [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► movie you know he has his ideas about [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► what a guardians of the galaxy movie [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► should be and you always have to ask [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► like is his idea of what a successful [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy movie the same [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► as mine or yours or any other viewers [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► and the one thing that I'm trying to [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► figure out what struck me weird about [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► this movie and I think one of them is [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► that the original felt a little bit more [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► like a travelogue of this weird space [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► world and if you think about it what [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► happens very early on is [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► movie is that Peter and Gomorrah and [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► Drax go meet ego and go to his planet [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► and they don't leave until the end of [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► the movie so they don't you know it's [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► not not much of a travelogue the other [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► characters go to like one other location [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► but basically that part of it is not [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► part of what this movie is this movie is [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► really about the characters and this [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► very specific set of interactions and [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► decend discoveries right like self [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► discoveries and and secrets that are [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► uncovered and again I enjoyed it a lot [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► and it might end up really growing on me [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► in multiple viewings like the last one [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► did but it did feel a little bit [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► different like instead of having a pinch [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► of all of those different things it had [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► like a cup of all of those different [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► ingredients and it's that's good [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► on one level but it's not the same and [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► it's hard to replicate that experience [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► and and the thing that did bother me [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► about this one is that the the section [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► of the movie with with Peter and [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► Gomorrah and Drax with Eko a lot of that [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► is a lot of waiting and it's very [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► passive and it's oh here's this [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► wonderful place and you're kind of [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► waiting for the shoe to drop but they're [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► not really doing anything I felt like [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► they were gonna go somewhere else that [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► was actually a thing that I had in the [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► middle of the movie where it sags and I [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► guess again I don't want to be that [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► person who's like no I have no I have no [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► patience I just want more explosions I [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► don't want to be that person right at [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► the same time in the middle of this [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► movie I was like at that moment where I [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► was like oh you know they're not going [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► to go anywhere else like I kept waiting [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► for there to be a revelation and then [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► they have to go somewhere and all that [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► it's like nope they're not this is the [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► movie they're just gonna be on this [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► planet the whole rest of the movie so [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► when I first when I first saw the movie [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► my the first attempt I made to see the [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► movie 2/3 the way into the movie a minor [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► emergency happens and I have to leave [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the film so right when Peter Quill's [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► eyes go all starfield nieces who can see [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► eternity that's when I had the lead [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► oh it's lying just because so so nothing [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► happened after that it's funny [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► exactly he just played catch with his [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► dad and everybody had a good time I went [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► on a pantheism Cat Stevens as I was [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► outside the theater stewing and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► complaining and grumping I'm also [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► replaying the movie in my head and it [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► felt like a series of episodes of the [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy TV series yeah [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► is a soap opera and it and I didn't feel [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► super Salafists that is better that is [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► exactly what I have here in my notes [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► this felt to me like the second season [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► of the guardians of the galaxy TV series [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► compressed into movie life that it was [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► it had those beats to it and maybe this [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► is like a result of TV becoming more [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► cinematic and and and how some of the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► you know what the difference now being [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► mainly just length but it was like you [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► could almost see where okay this is the [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► first episode this is the second episode [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► this is where this part is going to come [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► back and now we've got the lull this is [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► the mid-season low where everyone sort [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► of sits around and waits for other [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► things can happen off screen and then [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► you know it and maybe maybe part of that [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► is because of the Marvel Cinematic [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► Universe process where it's like you [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► know these characters are going to get [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► used again and again and again so you [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► can't have too much happen to them you [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► can't make too many drastic changes that [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► all you've got are like these sort of [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► character beats and these small changes [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► but I really did and I felt like that [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► was part of the reason why by the end of [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► the movie I felt pretty much the same as [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► I had at the beginning of the movie [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► about these characters was that we had [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► gone through a thing and now we're back [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► again and everyone's had a hug and a cry [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► and now you know season break and then [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► we're going to go on you know next year [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► to something else hmm I see when in that [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► big SAG in the middle when mantas is [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► about to tell Drax there's something [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► weird going on and then they don't [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► follow through on it then it's like you [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► know 25 minutes later oh there's that [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► thing she was going to tell you [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► it's like no no no no you don't don't [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► wait oh so it was like something almost [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► happens and that but you know for all [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► that I and I think what worked for us [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► was the characters it wasn't so much the [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► plot although I you know I liked I think [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► I liked the plot of this one better than [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► the first one I don't know that I liked [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the execution of the plot better but I [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► thought it was a little more interesting [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► but it was the the characters developed [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► a little bit more I think from this one [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► than in the first one in the first one [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► it's like here's a raccoon he's a [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► wisecracking raccoon here's a tree you [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► know it and this one allows them all to [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► sort of do slightly different things [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► yeah the first one's a travelogue the [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► set right the second was a character [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► study it did great with with with such a [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► lean in on the family theme that and and [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► this is this is this movie is all about [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► family and it gets super sentimental [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► about that in the end and it's either [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► going to hit you or it's not depending [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► on depending on your appetite for [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► character driven stuff and fruit [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► sentimentality I suppose well and I'm a [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► sentimental person I totally am I have [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► to put that out there and also this [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► worked for me because one of the points [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► that it tries to drive home you know is [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► that family a you know the definition of [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► family is up to you whoever you are [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► your family is yeah is is partly up to [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► you there's chosen family and then [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► there's like the people you are related [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► to and sometimes the ones you consider [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► your family and keep close and really [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► care about you know aren't necessarily [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► people who are genetically related to [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► you and I'm an adopted kid and I have [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► divorced parents who remarried other [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► people so my definition of family has [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► always been flexible so anytime anybody [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► else sort of gets into that realm and [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► sort of normalizes that and makes it [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► okay that I have this other definition [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► of these people in my life who I care [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► about and love and and they are my [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► family and you know a blood test isn't [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► going to tell you that I'm always really [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► pleased to see that in a movie and I'm [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► also a complete [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► marshmallow so anytime I get something [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► sentimental like that as a bonus like [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the whole thing with with yondu made me [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► so happy yeah it's it's also fair I'd [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► say I think it's fair play if somebody [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► comes out of this movie going what the [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► heck was that all about [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► I would recommend that they look at the [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► first scene of the original movie I mean [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► it is about yep [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► Peter's mom dying and him getting that [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► mean the cassette tape and with the old [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► music that's not just there I mean it is [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► there to set the tone for the movie if [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► you want to take the outside the I guess [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► that's the dualist perspective my god I [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► can't believe I'm go in here but right [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► but from the internal logic he watt Sony [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► in the internal logic perspective of the [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► movie I mean what that is about is about [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► Peter and his mom and that she's picked [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► this music that she loves from the 70s [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► even though he's a kid in the 80s and [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► and that's what that's what that's all [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► about from the first scene where she [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► dies and he runs away with the stuff and [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► then is kidnapped by yondu and then it [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► all get you know it's this movie is kind [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► of paying off Peter story but totally [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► fair play like this this movie is not [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► diverging from like the themes of the [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► previous movie in any way I think it's [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► completely fair in doing that I just and [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► I love that part of it I like the aspect [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► I feel like I'm something else we can [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► throw in here I feel like the [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► relationship between Gamora [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► and nebula is more interesting than in [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► the last movie yes and you know much [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► right and the sisters and they don't get [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► along because their data stano's what [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► you're going to do but I felt like there [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► could have been even more there that I [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► was a little disappointed that there [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► wasn't more but I was happy that it was [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► more than the last movie and that adds [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► to the the piling on of the family stuff [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► I have to admit though the thing that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► maybe struck me wrong and it also [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► explains the SAG in the middle of the [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► movie is like Kurt Russell shows up and [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► he's Peter's great god dad and they play [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► ball they play catch and stuff like that [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► and he has a planet that is paradise and [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► he takes them back there and you know I [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► don't know I kind of expected something [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► like I expected that movie to play with [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► me a little bit right because it's so [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► clear from the beginning that where this [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► story is going which is not going to be [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► all yeah right he's not gonna be all he [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► seems and there's gonna be something bad [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► and it's gonna have to be resolved but [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► it turns out that he's not the guy that [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► Peter thinks he is [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► all of that right like going in first [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► scene you're like alright I know where [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► this is going and unfortunately that's [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► all it did that is exactly where I wait [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► that's it what they do is instead of [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► play with it or string it along in an [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► interesting way they just cut away to [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► rocket and yondu right which is way more [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► interesting I think that was maybe at [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► the heart of it one of my main the main [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► reasons I was sort of a little [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► disappointed coming out of the movie was [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► that Peter quill was such the heart and [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► soul of the first movie and I you know [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► there's so many arrested man children in [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► in cinema in modern cinema and if you [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► want to take like the ultimate arrested [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► man child and give him the best reason [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► possible for being that arrested man [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► child it is Peter quill it is that [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► literally he was stolen from Earth on [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► the night of his mother's death when he [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► was a kid and in so many ways he is [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► still back there at the hospital bedside [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► with his mom and that just informed the [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► entire first movie it was the reason why [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► he risked his life to go back and get [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the Walkman and all of those sort of [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► character beats that I felt like this [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► movie sort of sold him short he spends a [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► lot of time standing around looking at [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► Kurt Russell's giant dioramas of himself [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► and you know sort of getting faded [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► information Ramage oh very look sort of [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► plastic extruded looking things of [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► himself yeah it was very 3d printed but [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► it got weird yes it like I really hope [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► he has like that Kurt Russell ego has [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► like the giant Hall of dioramas of [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► himself there all the time and it's not [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► just for when his son comes to visit it [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► it's like if you just sort of wanders [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► through them looking at them every once [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► in a while going yep I did that was a [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► good one there's a separate hole that's [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► just Kurt Russell films it's awesome I [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► imagine there's like a Mount Rushmore [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► that's just a bunch of ego heads and [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► then there's a Hall of oil paintings [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► that's all just paintings of ego and the [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► like that's just the whole planet is [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► just entirely two millennia it's a giant [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► doll museum it's Mount Russell more and [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► it would have been funny funnier to have [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► it right I mean a like you could play [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► you could play into it and haven't blown [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► ago geez and then have Peter realized [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► well no he's more nuanced than that and [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► then find out no he's really not that [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► but they don't do that either he's just [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► like ego is I would say and I wasn't [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► solving a mystery here ego is exactly [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► what I expect him to be in the grand [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► sense of being a disappointing dad and [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► so and you're right [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► Helene its sidelines Peter quill for a [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► large portion the movie he is defanged [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► and not interesting and not doing [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► anything he's just sort of standing [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► around saying whoa a lot yeah not only [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► is he passive because of Kurt Russell [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► he's passive because of Gamora you made [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► me come here you made me listen to him [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► now you want me to leave there's no [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► there's no real choice on his part it's [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► very odd and I get the argument that [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► maybe Peter quill is the emotional [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► center of guardians of the galaxy but [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► he's not as outsized a personality as [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► some of the other characters and so [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► maybe that's James Gunn's decision like [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► I'm going to give Peter this this [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► emotional arc and outside of it I'm [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► going to have some shenanigans with [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► these other other characters that are [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► going to be the more action and more [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► kind of zany jokey material I get that [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► it's just but I you know I think Peters [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► more than just the emotional Center [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► right I mean he's also a funny character [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► Chris Pratt is a very talented actor and [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► and so that's because I mean to take a [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► step away from Peter and ego for a [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► minute like we do have there's there is [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► so much great so we get baby Groot for [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► this entire movie until the end credits [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► uh and he made the movie uh and boy you [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► know I I feel like that was the moment [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► where somebody had a funny idea to put [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► baby Groot in the credits to show write [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► that show the group didn't die or at [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► least the part of Groot survived and is [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► now going to be baby Groot and dances in [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► the credits of the first movie right and [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► then you come to this movie like what [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► are we gonna do with Groot it's like [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► we're gonna just do baby group baby [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► Groot was so great can we can we sustain [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► that for a whole movie the answers yeah [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► yeah you can yeah it's a it's amazing [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► it's a one hell of a calculated move [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► but yes you can but it totally works and [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► then at the very end we see grumpy [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► teenage Groot but and that brings me to [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► not only before we go into the other [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► characters like baby Groot baby Groot is [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► really great throughout but that opening [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► sequence is one of the I want to say [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► it's the best opening sequence in a [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► movie I've seen since Watchmen in that [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► the way the the confidence the way that [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► it's shot where it is just being Groot [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► and we basically stay on baby Groot and [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► as an entire huge sci-fi battle happens [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► behind him out of focus and off screen [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► and with sound effects and I love the [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► it's so great and so clever yeah to do [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► it that way and it's not like you can't [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► see it it's not like they were saving [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► money like it's still very expressive to [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► render space octopus monsters but what [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► what a choice to do it and I mean the [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► movie kind of won my heart right there [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► that we have baby the adventures of baby [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► group who just wants to dance you say [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► the opening scene of the first one is [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► kind of the the mission statement of the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► whole thing this scene is kind of the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► mission statement of this it's saying [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► you know here's all this action this is [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► all still here you're not going to miss [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► anything but we're focusing on the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► character we're focusing on yeah that's [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► this it is that explicit as now yeah [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► and it's a hell of a dance remember the [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► third the third time I saw it it was in [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► 3d and the the 3d actually really really [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► really pops enjoys chip I want to know [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► why you had to see this three times you [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► told us about the first one what [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► happened a second time second time was [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► actually sitting through the whole thing [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► because dammit I wanted to see how it [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► ended and then the third time was hey [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► I'm going to be on the incomparable ah [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► okay but he had to leave to get back for [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► the podcast right although this time [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► Rockets handing yondu the spacesuit in [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► the jet pack and I'm like I know what's [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► coming [TS]

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00:25:54 ◼   ► the incomparable so baby Groot like [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► total total triumph right I mean it's [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► like how do you replace Groot such a [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► wonderful character can you can this [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► baby Groot version do it and you know [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► he's unreliable even more unreliable [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► than Groot Groot was already let's let's [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► not whitewash it Groot was not reliable [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► but baby Groot is really not reliable [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► the who note that but leaks the whole [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► extend and immediately I need you to [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► steal this thing I need you to steal [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► this thing from my bedside stand right [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► it's just I it's in there I need you to [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► get it and I really did enjoy that just [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► went on about 20 seconds too long but I [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► was willing to give it to it because it [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► was baby group being baby Groot he's [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► just so awesome I like the escalation [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► where first he's bringing stuff back and [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► then and then after they do that for a [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► little while then they show him a little [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► bit and then you're like oh geez what's [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► going to happen now but it's just yeah [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► it's in greeting Lee increasingly [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► ludicrous [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► so that was yeah baby Groot what a it's [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► a good [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► decision great is that funny ho yeah oh [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► my god is expression on the show forget [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► it you talk about Michael Rooker just [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► for a minute yeah let's do it [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► oh yeah don't do spectacular I liked him [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► in the first movie a lot and I like that [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► he was back and then they gave him so [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► much more to do in this movie which is [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► which is good because again [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► this is all you should see the movie [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► we're gonna spoil everything here but he [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► dies at the end and it's sad but he was [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► so great in the whole movie that I was [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► happy that we got that much of Michael I [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► mean I like Michael Rooker and [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► everything I loved him in the in the [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► walking dead back when I was watching [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► The Walking Dead and as yondu in the [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► first movie and he is really great in [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► this that kinda steals Days of Thunder [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► it's a good Brad so far I've liked him [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► because he's like your villain that [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► turns out not to be the villain and he [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► plays it really well that he's and we [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► get the revelation that he was really [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► saving Peter by not but not delivering [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► him to his dad which is which is that [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► you know that's such a beautiful turn he [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► wasn't a spell after all that was the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► line at the end of mostly I was [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► interested because I didn't really [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► remember yondu from the books and so I [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► was curious where they were gonna go [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► with it what it was going to look like [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► and I really liked that he got those [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► super emotional scenes and I really [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► thought it was like I was fascinated as [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► soon as he ended up on the ship with [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► rocket you know how like what's gonna [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► happen here cuz they're both little rays [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► of sunshine this is going to be an [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► interesting trip you know and it was [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► super fun to get to listen to them and [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► one of the things that I loved about all [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► of this was that nobody was sort of [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► making their like serious heartfelt [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► declaration you know it was all stuff [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► that sort of got like flew out of [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► people's mouths before they really [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► thought about it you know like the whole [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► thing with um nebula and Gamora you know [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► was you wanted a sparring-partner and I [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► just wanted a sister you know like whoa [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► that changed their whole dynamic all at [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► once and you know his is a yondu's [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► assessment of rocket as rocket sort of [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► gets more angry like you know yo [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► no me and he's like oh yeah watch this [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► this is exactly why and watching them [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► interact myspace beer look like blurting [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► that stuff out which is like the way [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► that sort of thing happens in life and [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► so watching that go on was just super [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► gratifying to me that we got so much [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► interesting stuff out of him and then [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► when it became clear what was going to [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► happen to him I was very very sad and [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► what made me the saddest was I'm Mary [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► Poppins y'all that was yes that moment [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► that moment was gleeful and I jut like [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► that's what makes guardians the galaxy [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► for me like yondu dies at the end and [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► we're all heartbroken but before that [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► happened I'm Mary Poppins yeah it was [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► amazing and and can we just take a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► moment for the the scene where they're [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► they're locked away and and baby Groot [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► is going off and bringing the stuff back [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► because when you think about it he's the [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► only human being in that scene anything [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► you buy it you buy it [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► he's yeah beautiful acting against [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► against the computer animation he [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► benefits so much from the reduced role [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► that Chris Pratt's given yes you know [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► he's and he steps up and carries so much [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► more of the movie in terms of you know [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► being fascinating to watch [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► I really wish they hadn't tried to [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► shoehorn in so much backstory for him so [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► quickly in the scene immediately after [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► when when they're in the brothel or [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► whatever it the whole rabbit is the [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► whole ravager this is Sylvester Stallone [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► who I'm judging you it's like okay [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► you're reintroducing us to yondu and [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► this is going to give us sort of the the [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► emotional hook of why he got kicked out [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► of the Reavers that is then going to [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► turn and be in the end of the movie but [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► you're giving it him this opposite [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► Sylvester Stallone and all I'm doing is [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► looking at this movie thinking why is [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► Sylvester Stallone one of those water [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► lines are you making [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► Wester Stallone deliver yeah yeah and [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► then and he's just standing there it's [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► like he doesn't even so let's just want [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► to seem to try to be anyone other than [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► Sylvester Stallone so it's like he's [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► this giant Rambo shaped hole in the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► movie that is just drawing all of this [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► energy to him and I can't afterwards I [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► was like wait what was he saying to [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► yondu what was the thing with yawn doing [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► kids what was that and then I had to [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► sort of piece it back together after [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► like when they were making back [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► references to it I think it could very [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► easily have been I was you know [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► delivering these kids I figured it out [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► you were the one I saved without all of [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► the guy getting kicked out of the [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► Reavers and and you know sort of [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► reestablishing himself at the funeral [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► and all that just seemed to me to be a [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► lot of unnecessary filler that was [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► surrounding and sort of obscuring the [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► thing that I wanted to see which was [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► just more of yondu being the asshole [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► with a heart of gold that that I think [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► saw on the first one yeah well and [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► filler but yeah and you don't really get [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► it til the end of the movie setting up [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► perhaps something for the next movie [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► which that's a common problem in yeah we [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► gonna you know cuz we're watching it and [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► you know you're watching the opening [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► credits he's he's still Wester Stallone [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► pops up in the opening credits and then [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► he's in the movie for like I don't know [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► three minutes yeah any God why would he [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► get a credit for that and then at the [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► very end you're like oh because he's [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► coming bad and Ving Rhames and Michelle [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► yeah right that were it's like why I [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► don't even realize that that was [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► Michelle Yeoh until I went to DB and I [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► was I think they get mushy Leona's like [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► oh wait a minute [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► oh okay for those who don't know there [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► was originally a Marvel comic called [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy that featured a [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► bunch of heroes from the far future and [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► then they redid guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► with a sect a set up much more like what [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► we have in these movies that that group [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► at the end with Sylvester Stallone and [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► Ving Rhames and Michelle Yeoh and the [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► voice robot voice of Miley Cyrus those [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► are those are intended to be vo [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► regional guardians of the galaxy it take [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► an homage to the original guardians of [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► the galaxy at the end more than it is [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► anything else [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► I didn't that I don't look at him right [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► and the sovereigns and hinting at atom [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► atoms Adam warlock warlock yeah you know [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► it's like that's a lot of stuff they're [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► setting up for the the third I'm not [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► entirely sure other than the Adam [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► warlock thing I don't think they're even [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► I don't think it's even a set up [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► necessarily I think it's like it's just [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► heavy laying on the references and it [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► may be all that there is [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► so maybe okay so uh so rocket in this [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► what what I'm wondering what people feel [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► about how rocket was handled because I [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► feel like he he's a fun character I'm [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► not sure he had a lot further to go [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► emotionally and he so like you know I [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► don't think he had as much work to be [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► done on him to like deep in his [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► character as some of the other [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► characters in the movie so instead he's [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► sort of like paired with yondu and they [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► have a you know I'm just like you we're [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► not we're not that different you and I [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► kind of moments but I appreciated rocket [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► I think he's great but I'm not quite [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► sure how much development he had to have [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► here see I thought I thought he had a [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► lot of development just because you know [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► he starts at you go alright he's still [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► stealing things yeah Steven got her [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► quite it is the whole plot is his fault [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► right and and he's like you know I'm not [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► like you you're not like me come on um [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► but then also not just realizing that [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► yeah alright yondu and I are kind of [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► kind of like and oh wait a minute yonder [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► was actually kind of a good guy uh and [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and so he sort of sees more of a [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► Redemption as Redemption more as a [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► possibility for himself even if he [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► doesn't necessarily get there at the end [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► of the movie we don't know we'll see [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► yeah I think he'll still be stealing [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► batteries in vol 3 [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► I hope so raccoons they just get a [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► little bad about it I mean you know but [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► yeah III thought I thought he actually [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► had the most interesting development [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► besides yondu I'm not sure that I saw [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► that level of development there I [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► thought that Brad Cooper did a great job [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► as usual with the voice I thought the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► animation for rocket was phenomenal [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► especially facial there's a scene where [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► he's suddenly [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► he's like stretched out and I was just [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► like man look at that fur like it is [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► just like amazing like how yeah it's [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► amazing where he goes where he goes from [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► the beginning of the movie to the end of [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► the movie I don't see a lot of distance [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► traveled um just he gets he has a moment [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► with yondu and then it's back to smashy [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► smashy yeah well I mean Drac similarly I [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► feel like we got we learned a lot of [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► important things about Drax and his [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► sadness and his tragic backstory in the [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► first movie and in this movie I feel [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► like they're confident enough in Drax [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and Rocket but with Drax especially like [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► Drax is really funny [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► everything Drax does is funny let's just [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► use Drax to be funny and they do drag [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► his ex Rex is amazing again I love every [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► I wanted more [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► Drax because Drax is so great and so [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► funny with his no subtext always tells [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► the truth [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► and I just I enjoy him so much so again [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► I don't need all these characters to [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► evolve I'm okay with it it was just more [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► Drax but didn't it feel like Drax was a [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► little sudden because when we first meet [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► him you know he's seen some stuff and [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► he's very sort of serious and we don't [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► get a lot of um joy and mirth I guess [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► from him and it seems like in this movie [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► like every time we see him he ends up [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► cracking himself up or something we [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► found he's found his family right his [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► old family died again it's the themes of [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► family right his this is his new family [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► and he's got a home again right but [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► there was never like a nod to that for [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► me and so I'm just like why is he [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► laughing all the time what happened and [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► then like you know they start hitting me [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► over the head with family and you know [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► like I said I'm never going to complain [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► about that but like I had to go back and [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► sort of apply that to Drax later as [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► opposed to him having said something you [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► know cuz he's a blurter as much as he [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► was laughing through the whole movie and [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► he's just sort of there to be funny he [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► also had what for me was one of the most [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► effective emotional beats of the movie [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► which was that when he was just sitting [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► on egos planet looking [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► out over like that this gorgeous Vista [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► and he was you know he mentioned that [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that he reminded him of something he'd [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► taken his daughter to see and mantas [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► touched him and started crying and he's [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► just standing sitting there with this [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► smile on his face and it was such a [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► sophisticated moment that I was so glad [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► that the movie still trusted its [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► audience enough to know you take that in [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► and appreciate it for what it was [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► because mantis [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► after she after after she sort of breaks [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► down in tears she almost immediately [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► pulls back a little bit and she's sort [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► of sitting there with that sort of sad [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► stoic expression as well and I love what [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► that communicates but mentioning Drax [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► brings me and and mantis brings me to if [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► I have a big problem with guardians the [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► galaxy [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► both this movie and the previous one [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► it's the broadness of the humors hmm and [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► when and part of Bro humor is a certain [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► level of jocular cruelty where you know [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► your trash panda is worse that sort of [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► thing but when the humor is directed at [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► mantis it feels like bullying to me [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► because it's the movie and the [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► characters are making fun of her for [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► being naive and innocent and when that [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► kind of humor is being delivered towards [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► mantis from Drax compared to uh you just [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► need a woman who's pathetic to quill [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► they come across as very very different [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► to me and it makes me feel uncomfortable [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► fair enough yeah yeah I wasn't thrilled [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► with her character she had I liked I saw [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► a couple of critiques that were like oh [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► can we be done with empaths already and [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► I think empaths I think it's still a fun [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► concept especially for moments like the [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► one with with her and Drax where she [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► starts crying [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► but when what was missing was agency it [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► wasn't just that she could you know the [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► fact that you can [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► feel other people's emotions that in [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► itself should make her this sort of [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► helpless sort of wringing her hands all [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► the time character she just she was just [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► there I don't even know why she was [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► there in the end she was there to put he [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► go to sleep I get was it yes that was it [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► yeah no and to explain that his secret [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► when he would wouldn't be ready to [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► reveal it and and and get the plot [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► moving but yeah I agree I it sort of [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► like I felt like I wanted more from her [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► about like who she was and why she was [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► everything she's meant to be an innocent [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► and she's been raised by you know out on [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► this planet essentially on her own and I [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► I I understand that you know the Drax [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► saying that she's hideous didn't bother [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► me because it didn't bother me because [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► it's um first off she's not and it's [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► space and Drax it has very weird very [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► weird standards and I enjoyed the payoff [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► of that which is that he says no no [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► you're beautiful on the inside which I [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► again because it's being consistent [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► Drax's standards of beauty are not the [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► same as other people's and he doesn't [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► have any subtext so I was okay with it [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► especially since she's most clearly not [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► hideous [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► I thought that that was a funny a funny [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► joke at Drax's expense because he what [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► he sees is not but then again I didn't [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► have a problem with the doctor not being [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► able to tell Clara's age for the same [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► reason which is it's an alien creature [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► and where they're they're the butt of [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► the jokes because they don't understand [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► people so I was okay with those how I [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► that was how I took Drax was uh was the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► same way it didn't feel it felt to me [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► like um he was sort of uh dipping her [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► aunt Anna in the inkwell to kind of you [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► know make that joke like I'm gonna be [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► mean to you because I actually like you [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► and I don't know how to process that um [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► so that was for my god was that a Little [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► House on the Prairie joke it totally was [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► oh wow wow wow [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► that was kinda that was how I took it [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► was like he was just trying to convince [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► her that he didn't like her you know [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► it's that same sort like you know that [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► this dynamic is still going [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► on in grade schools to this very day and [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► I and when he first said it I took him [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► at face value it didn't occur to me that [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► there was any such subterfuge there or [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► anything because I'm like maybe he [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► really doesn't like her because she's [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► like half the size and nowhere near as [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► blue as what he generally prefers you [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► know like I don't know what ladies look [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► like on Drax's planet so I I sort of [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► thought like he was just being honest [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► with her the way he was being honest [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► with Peter you need a woman who is [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► pathetic like you you know I'm okay I [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► guess he's just going to be kind of mean [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► to her as well and for me that was why [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► the payoff of that moment where they [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► were there sitting looking out at the [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► sunset or whatever was their doing um [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► after she touches him and can feel what [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► he's feeling that's why for me that had [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► some payoff because I just felt like he [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► he was letting her because he could have [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► told her no he could have moved away or [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► something and he didn't do it and so it [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► was sort of to me it just felt like [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► maybe they were starting to be friends [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► maybe he was accepting her and then he [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► did give her the pep talk [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► you know you can do this I believe in [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► you and I thought that that was also a [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► really nice moment between the two of [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► them and then the payoff towards the end [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► when he's being buried by ego and tries [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► to save her life and trying to hold her [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► up so they're up and that's great I do [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► still think that the movie is very [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► unkind to mantis I mean it's not oh yeah [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► exes behavior it's yes it's they'll give [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► you that one even in that even in the [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► even in the trailers where they made [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► even a bigger deal of her getting hit by [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► the debris at the end of the trailer and [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► that's played for laughs ya know Drax [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► this thing doesn't bother me but you're [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► right she is she's the butt of many [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► jokes and it's uh yeah it's I agree it's [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► not it's not great yeah yeah um what do [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► people think of the sovereign the gold [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► the gold people this is sort of like I [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► feel like a the next step after the the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► xandarians in the first movie where I [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► think James Gunn likes to have really [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► kind of highfalutin persnikitty aliens [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► and in this case they're bad well you [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► you have to have Margaret Dumont if you [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► have the Marx Brothers yeah [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► I mean I love I love the sovereigns and [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► they also they play video games all of [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► their fights are viable by a video game [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► which made me laugh a lot but you know [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► they're they're perfect and they will [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► they are they are going to stop them [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► because they stole batteries and and [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► therefore they must die it's a problem [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► though if every time you hire somebody [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► to kill the last people who stole from [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► you and they all steal from you like you [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► you're never gonna get an arrest they [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► were such a device they just slid [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► straight off my brain i I just [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► faceless gold people who are like out [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► there they I found them funny but [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► they're not like they're impervious they [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► they're made to slide I think they may [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► be actually be coated in death lon [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► they're made of gold yeah well space [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► space Teflon they are designed they are [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► they are purely a plot device to create [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► a great complication and that gets [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► everybody to ego eventually um again [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► going back to my first viewing of the [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► movie and having to check out two-thirds [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► the way through I got way more sovereign [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► per capita and and that was not fun [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► because they were just they were just [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► there it was loads of fun watching the [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► arcade scenes first of all the arcade [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► gag is hysterical but second I'm sitting [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► there watching it with my teenage son [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► who is very much an online gamer and and [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► a shouter and a Yeller and a cursor [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► about it and the bit with a bit towards [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► the end where there's the one the one [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► ace pilot left who's trying to take out [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► the Milano and all of the other [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► sovereigns are crowded around him [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► encouraging him on and then he blows up [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► and they say oh you suck my my son just [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► goes yes yes that's called knowing your [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► audience yes [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► what I gotta say I mean I love at the [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► end when they show up partly because [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that's the best use of the song wham bam [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► shang-a-lang I've heard I love it was [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► just yeah I love the music direction in [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► both of these films when they use the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► chain with the slow-mo walk [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► yeah normally I'm like I just roll my [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► eyes in the slow-mo walk but I have such [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► a deep and um my affection for the chain [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► is is just it yeah it makes everything [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► else go away so so I was just I was just [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► there for that was like the moment I was [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► like yes yes take me with you in the [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► slow-mo walk as long as long as we're [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► talking about Fleetwood Mac and and and [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► love being the thing that will kill you [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► yes let's just do this I really liked [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the subtext that Fleetwood Mac brought [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► to them so uh so let's talk a little bit [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► about about Gomorrah and nebula because [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► that's one of the things that I know [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► there was a lot of talk about the these [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► characters in the first film and here [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► they are largely pitted against each [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► other they kind of capture nebula and [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► then she sort of escapes but then she [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► sort of helps them and they get to they [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► get to have a little bit of an emotional [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► I mean again it's a weird relationship [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► because they're both children of Thanos [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► and that you know I've always been [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► unclear on exactly what nebulas deal is [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► she's got replacement parts and things [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► like that but we did get to see in the [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► family theme here right they they they [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► seem to reach some sort of understanding [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► of each other by the end of this movie [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► that they did not have at the beginning [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► or indeed in the last movie Karen Gillan [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► is ear is up and down as an actress in [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► Doctor Who um yes she's she's people I [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► think she's generally good but sometimes [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► she nails it and sometimes she doesn't [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► quite um but the episode of Doctor Who [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► that features her as an older pet as an [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► old-time time duplicate the girl who [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► waited um she is so fantastic in her and [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► that one and that's the Karen Gillan [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► that I saw in this movie I was so [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► impressed with what she did she has she [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► showed so much more range so much more [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► steel she's not just randomly snarly she [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► is swaggering she but she has funny [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► she's just just rolling her eyes at the [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► other people so much happening there um [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► nebula is great and karen gillan is [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► great yeah their their relationship in [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► the first movie was one of the things [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► that I was disappointed in in that [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► because it's not very there's not very [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► much development at all there's not it's [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► like here are two women pit them against [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► each other done and and you know she's [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► an indestructible killing machine okay [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► yeah this is the relationship I wanted [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► to see there I wanted to see a little [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► bit more of that set up in the first [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► film but I thought it was it was really [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► good in this just as is [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► well getting the whole like the first [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► movie had some problems I think script [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► wise where there was supposed to be [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► Thanos and then they were like no no we [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► need fan OHS for the Avengers eventually [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► and so like so umit's make it Ronin but [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► then he's not there [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► he's not their dad so they have to like [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► have this weird like well we'll move [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► some of their own and stuff here but [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► we'll also keep Thanos and they'll talk [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► about Thanos and you know I think it's I [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► think their relationship suffered [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► because of that decision in the first [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► movie yes and and you're right in in the [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► end she's just a secondary baddie [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► she's like the the the the the thugs go [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► before that sent out by the main bad [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► eight yeah right and and cut and not [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► that interesting and he or she's she's a [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► lot more interesting oh yeah yeah so [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► it's it's it's good um Gamora I would [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► say Gamora has a tough it's a tough part [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► because so with when she's wisk got to [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► be the grown-up yeah so when she's with [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► her sister at least there's this sister [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► dynamic and you can see her learning and [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► they fight and there's rocks collapsing [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► and all those things but but with quill [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► yeah she's like she's she's like the [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► questioner and trying to bring him down [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► from his high and that is a sort of a [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► thankless role in the in the movie and [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► anything like this that be the person [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► who has to be like snap out of it this [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► paradise that you're seeing can't be [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► real it's a tough that's a tough part [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► and you know it's she ends up sort of [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► coming across as the Cyclops [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► she's the hmm she said she's the one [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► who's the has to be the adult in the [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► room and she knows it at all times and [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► she's got to hurt all of these [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► ridiculous personalities and she ends up [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► feel [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► a little stiff and uninteresting I think [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► because of it and so I was glad to see [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► the stuff that she had with nebula in it [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► it gave her a little bit of something to [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► learn and you could also see her [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► reflexes like I don't care I'm just [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► going to hit my sister because that's [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► what I'm trained to do that's that's [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► just the way things have been and that [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► was that that was something she had to [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► get over but yeah the stuff with Peter [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► just seemed really undeveloped like in [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► the very beginning of the relation of [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► the month are on the screen and I was [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► like wait a minute so they're exactly [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► where they were at the end of the first [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► movie relationship-wise like I was [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► totally expecting that they had had a [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► full relationship and then broken it off [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► and that it was going to be them [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► learning like what had gone wrong and [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► why they had to sort of reconfigure and [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► get back to where they were and not like [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► oh where do we've just been in a holding [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► pattern for whatever span of time it is [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► between the first movie in the second [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► that they wouldn't have had you know had [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► a conversation since then yeah even if [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► it's odd it's still six months I mean it [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► it is sort of indicative of the whole TV [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► season style and I mean even bringing in [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► cheers and the whole will they won't [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► they [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► alright I will say he's exactly right [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► about Sam Cooke uh but again there's [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► there's that whole you know you made me [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► come here now you want me to leave and [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► they don't they don't actually really do [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► much with that there could have been so [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► much more of you know yes I did think [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► this was the right thing to do and no [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► you we have to go now because I was [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► wrong that would have been a much more [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► interesting note to play with and and [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► and to develop their relationship and [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► both of their characters too because [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► here's this mistake I've made I got us [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► into this part of the plot and we should [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► go as an accidental side-effect though [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► for the sort of the way [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► sort of undercooked I do appreciate that [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► Gomorrah doesn't spin the movie the [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► whole movie just basically falling over [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► quill yes yes she what she maintains her [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► agency and her independence and her and [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► her strength as a character throughout I [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► think in part because they they treat [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► the relationship with restraint in the [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► end it's something unspoken and I yeah I [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► would like to have seen them do more [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► with it but I also wonder if if they had [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► done more with it would I have bought it [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► as much I don't know well what was funny [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► to me about that was he made the cheers [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► reference and and I'm like no wait [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► moonlighting and I'm like wait Peter [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► wouldn't have been old enough to be [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► watching moonlighting and appreciate it [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► strictly speaking he would have been old [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► enough to watch tears I think he was [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► abducted before cheers came on missing [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► Shh okay I thought it was it would I [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► thought no that's not that's not true [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► than that cheers Cheers premiered in [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► 1982 Peter quill was abducted in 1988 [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► okay I was gonna say 80 I thought was 83 [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► so 98 at least a little bit of 1988 it's [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► it's the opening night but in the first [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► movie there's a title that says 1988 I [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► thought it was 83 - nope okay sorry [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► lucky [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► no I thought that cheers was 83 not 82 [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► and I thought I knew he was abducted [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► after that so that means he never had to [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► put up with Rebecca on Cheers [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► oh oh lucky by to say I had the same [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► thought about moonlighting and which was [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► 85 and I'm a little surprised that I [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► mean yeah he might have been young but I [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► and didn't understand all sorts of shows [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► that I was too young for it would have [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► been that was the obvious there but he [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► didn't yeah he didn't go to the best [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► moonlighting was the one that like my [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► parents let me watch Cheers they did not [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► let me watch moonlighting yeah I don't [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► know what it was about the it was just [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► that much more adult just like a little [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► bit more adult yes maybe yeah genre came [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► on after you were in bed that I believe [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► it was four years of sexual tension you [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► could cut within me there's there's a [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► line in guardians the galaxy where I [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► really thought they were going to go [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► there where he where I really expected [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► him to say you know what the [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► isn't Cheers it's moonlighting and [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► that's not what the law is and I was [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► like you're right there you're right [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► there just say it like this it would [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► have been it would have been great it [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► would have been amazing but uh they [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► didn't didn't they're there were enough [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► pop-culture references in this movie [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► let's uh let's be clear there were many [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► how could that kid not have Bruce Willis [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► as like his personal hero he lives up on [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► the notice cut to the chase music boys [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► like how is that not the show that he [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► would you know yeah great good point but [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► I did like the fact that you know he's [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► he makes the one pop-culture reference [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► and then he's just so mad he's [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► completely at sea and he can't think of [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► anything so it would be a show that [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► doesn't exist and it did like that he [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► found himself backed into that corner it [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► just kept kept at it anyway it was [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► pretty great I did like that so I have a [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► lot of complex headcanon about how those [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► cassette tapes are still playing and and [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► uh [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► and the muscle pencils nasal tape well I [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► think it involves like alien technology [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► is used to make duplicates of the tapes [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► or the tapes content and they're saved [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► in other forms too so that he can still [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► have the music even if the tapes die and [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► that perhaps there's some sort of new [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► power source that's been retrofitted [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► into the Walkman in order for it to play [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► it or perhaps they smuggle in some of [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► those things that come off earth in [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► various forms because of course at the [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► end of the movie he gets a Zune with 300 [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► songs on it it's what everybody's [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► listening to how must Jay Allard have [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► felt after this the punch line good [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► punch line 300 song they find like the [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► one Zune that's still around where did [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► they learn to take hours up yeah it is [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► amazing that mp3 players are now like [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► old signifiers because watching the [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► first episode of iron fist there's a [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► whole like thing that it dwells on that [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► he's got an original iPod because he's [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► been gone 15 years and I'm like wow mp3 [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► players are relics that used that are [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► used to date characters no good Lord [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► could we talk about crag Lin for a [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► second he the I had to look his name up [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► and IMDB after the end of the movies [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► Kirk from Gilmore Girls but he's also [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► the directors younger brother and he's [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► and he's um yondu's like ii guess he's [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► such a fun sweet character um [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► he seems like it was he in the first [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► movies he yes was he there okay he he he [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► seems like he's sort of there by [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► accident but he's like capable enough [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► that he can get his feet under him and [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► and make decisions and and sort of move [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► the plot along when the Moot plot needs [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► moving along and I love the it was my [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► favorite part of the credit sequences is [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► him trying to trying to power the arrow [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► and I just I would totally watch more of [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► him I don't know if I would want him to [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► like have his own movie or whatever cuz [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► I don't know if his character is rounded [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► enough for that but he he was the only [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► surprise to me in this movie I think was [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► that he was just sort of there being [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► sweet and awkward and being upset that [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► that he'd accidentally started this um [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► this mutiny you just from asking a [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► question and and that he then felt that [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► he needed to redeem himself after that I [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► felt like in some ways he had like the [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► biggest character journey of anyone in [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► well except maybe for quill but that's [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► only because like that entire character [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► journey was just shoehorned and [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► completely but the I just I just liked [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► him he was there he wasn't doing all [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► that much but what he was doing was [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► enough and it was great and I loved him [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► mm-hmm [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► I enjoyed him very much he also does [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► rock it on set ah yeah that's part of [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► part of why he's there I was going to [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► mention seeing him so we do have the [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► mutiny against yondu by the Ravagers and [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► and that's one of those things that [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► kragle and ends up regretting it and he [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► ends up sort of like getting them [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► ends up sort of like getting them [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► out of it again I do want to mention at [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► least the extended series of jokes about [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► the lead mutineer whose name is Jason [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► face and why would you have a name is [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► taser taser face and that just made me [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► laugh a lot there is a Marvel character [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► named taser face and I think James Gunn [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► just decided that he thought that would [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► be really funny the idea that somebody [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► picks a name that he thinks is super [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► intimidating and everybody laughs at it [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► because it's ridiculous because he's [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► taste based you wait wait your name is [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► taser face yeah amazing [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► I enjoyed that that was though some fun [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► you know I I I can complain about the [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► saggy middle and the fact that Kurt [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► Russell like Kurt Russell I love Kurt [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► Russell he kind of you know he does what [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► he does what's expected of him he's he's [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► chummy at the beginning and then at the [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► end he gets growly and evil and he's [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► fine but you know that part of the movie [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► didn't really work for me it was it was [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► okay but everything around it I really [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► enjoyed that's the thing is I did enjoy [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► this movie and I may enjoy it more on [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► other viewings knowing what I know now [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► about how its shaped but you know it I [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► did but like the Kurt Russell stuff was [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► just it's a good idea and I really [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► wanted to see Kurt Russell and and and [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► Chris Pratt kind of like have more to do [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► and that part is I'm a little [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► disappointed that that they didn't get [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► more to do because you're Russell's not [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► much at all he's super charismatic and I [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► was doing in a really really long movie [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► yeah I will say this this is the best [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► this now the best Kurt Russell Sylvester [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► Stallone film out there if they had [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► taken the you have godlike powers thing [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► more if they done more with it so that [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► they done anything with it I think that [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► anything with it you're right so that [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► when there's that reveal that of course [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► he's the one who put the tumor and and [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► and Meredith's brain when so that [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► there's more for for Peter quill to lose [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► if he decides at that point to you know [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► go [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► to his dad um I mean that would have [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► been what 10 15 minutes that would have [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► been so much more for him to then have [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► to say goodbye to and have a decision to [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► make instead of the automatic well I've [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► known you for 30 minutes when you're [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► biologically my dad and you tossed a [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► ball around with me but now I have to [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► kill you because you killed my mom I [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► almost wanted another step in the [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► relationship like like like that they [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► don't meet and go straight back to his [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► planet but like they meet and at [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► somewhere in space and have a [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► conversation and maybe he unlocks some [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► of this power and then Peter like uses [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► the power and discovers that this is the [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► awesome thing about about having this [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► power and he can protect his friends and [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► all of that and then he goes to his [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► dad's planet realizes there's a horrible [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► price something like that where there [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► was sort of like a midpoint in the [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► relationship and then he could maybe [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► Peter becomes kind of more convinced and [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► and so that that moment cuz the moment [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► where he says that I felt really bad [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► when I gave your mom the the brain tumor [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► is like I don't feel it's earned I feel [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► like it comes out of nowhere because at [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► the end in the movie where he has it has [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► to happen there has to be a turn you [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► know I don't I I disagree I I liked the [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► sudden turn there I did see where you're [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► coming from about it not being earned [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► but the you know he's he's he's tempted [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► he's exploring all this other stuff and [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► then the one line and that's it right I [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► just like I just wanted them to mosey up [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► to that line and I thought I felt like [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► he just drops it like boom now I'm going [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► to drop this and then the response is is [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► great right like Chris Pratt's like whoa [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► like it was fun that we played catch but [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► you know that's I'm going to kill you [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► it's over now right I just I just [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► figured that there maybe there could be [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► more there and it comes back to that [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► same thing which is my feeling like [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► something's missing like they go [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► straight to the planet and then they're [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► just on the planet and I kind of just [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► wanted some other phase in that [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► relationship other than to see his you [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► know his murals to himself that one I [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► kind of I'm right there with you I think [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► that it's it's all very much like oh [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► we've crashed on this thing and here's [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► Kurt Russell and he's going to take us [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► to his planet and that's great right and [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► there's no there's no seduction I'm [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► seduction isn't quite the right word but [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► I guess in terms of like a con game it [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► is there it's just like oh well of [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► course you're you're his dad cool let's [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► go [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► whereas if if there had been a little [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► more and maybe it would have made it a [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► little more episodic but have sort of a [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► couple of quick mini adventures where [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► you get to see he's pursuing he's he's [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► figured out that this kid who's running [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► the guardians of the galaxy that's his [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► kid and he's following him around he's [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► trying to get to know him it's like come [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► back with me there's more to you right [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► he's like no I don't think so and then [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► finally after two or three times the [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► third time that's the charm that's [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► alright alright fine let's go see what [TS]