Ep. 246: "Night Burrito"
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hello hi John
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hi Merlin has gone super good sir Lee
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oh nice just barely had time to splash
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some water on my face and eat half of a
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cold sausage hmm it's kind of Dickensian
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hmm please sir they have some more cold
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sausage hmm careful what you ask for
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with the Jew Fagin okay here's a
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question for you yes this is probably
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actually a question for Don Schaffner no
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I'm happy to speculate how long can you
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leave up like a pan of cold grease on
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the stove before the grease goes bad
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before it gets rancid
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strictly speaking as always it won't
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thinking there's two angles here one
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angle is that like you made some lamb or
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something okay well how many days is it
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before you really want to be careful
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that you don't put your spoon in there
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and accidentally lick it well I don't
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think it's I don't think it's gonna go
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bad in the sense of it was hazardous
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like you wouldn't want to like pour that
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into a coffee cup and then like you know
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drink out of it I'm not sure that
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hazardous is the is the standard I think
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it is more it's more taste whether it
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becomes because you know butter sits out
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it never did it's not gonna get where's
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my part - my part - was that like I'm
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used grease I'll reuse I'll reuse some
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grease all uh si I've recently moved to
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lard and as when I use the hell out of
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some grease yeah exactly I think that
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used to be like a tradition and we used
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to keep it I remember in the later parts
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of my youth we kept um we would pour
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bacon grease into a coffee can Moses so
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we could throw it out but I think I
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suspect that had its origins in we're
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gonna put this in here and then reuse it
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oh yeah for real
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what was so yeah they my mom always had
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didn't just throw perfectly good grease
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away my good pal Bob wood up in Alaska
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easy down the mo with the mom
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Bob had the mom she lifted a bookcase
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this may be our and drank laps on sushi
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T yep that's right that's Bob's mom got
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your cut I love MA here so good bye good
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yeah yeah
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Oh Bob wood used to keep you know he had
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a big he had like a like a 10 gauge or a
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12 gauge cast-iron pan that he left on
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the stove at all times and it always had
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an inch of grease in it serve you know
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maybe not an inch but like a blue cover
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the bottom though no no thicker than
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that yeah you know it was like a it was
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let's say between a centimeter and a
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half an inch of of bacon grease was
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always sir coagulated in this pan and
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when when he would because he you know
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all these guys up in Alaska they're all
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fishermen he would get some five pounds
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of halibut cheeks or something some guy
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would come into town and he'd be like
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hey Bob I'll trade you five pounds of
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halibut cheeks for two gold pans and a
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pickaxe and so that's why I was
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interested in the community yeah yeah
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Bob would have all this fish all of a
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sudden and so he'd throw the halibut
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cheeks in the in the bacon grease and
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cook em right he wouldn't just throw
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them in there and leave him there for
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the afternoon he heated up snot
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coronating them no he's cooking them and
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they were the bet you know that's the
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best way to cook fish of course is
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flash-fried and some hot bacon grease
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and then he would turn the the studied
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turn the the gas off and then the grease
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would just stay there he would pluck the
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fish out it's not like you ever the
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grease was just there and so I never I
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wasn't living with Bob I never said like
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how often do you turn this grease around
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but then I thought about it and a lot of
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people in Alaska had a pan of grease on
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the stove so anyway I've been adopting
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this lately and but I just I need some
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guidelines
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because I don't want to be making some
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classic mistake I don't want it to be
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one of those situations like you know
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when I used to drink heavily
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I'd go out drinking every night and some
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friend of mine would always come with me
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and I just assumed that all my friends
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drank every night when in fact they just
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really they got super fucked up one
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night a week with me oh you were there
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weekend but I was I said right I was
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there weekend but I was doing it seven
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nights a week mm-hmm you but I would um
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pray at this point I was pro and I but I
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was confused because there was always
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somebody with me and I figured everybody
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was doing it
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but now they all had jobs and I don't
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want it to be one of those situations
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where as soon as I leave they dump the
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grease out but and then I come back and
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there's a new pot of grease because they
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made bacon that morning I understand I'm
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thinking oh shit there's they're just
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leaving this grease around for for weeks
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and months and you and one of your
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despite any other side effects of your
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profession you I believe you said you
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never you weren't much of a blackout guy
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like you would still remember lots of
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things about what happened Oh me as a
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yeah no no I never blacked out that's
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why I'm mentioning again because that's
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that's quite a performance
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characteristic that's that's very
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unusual
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I didn't blackout and I hardly ever
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vomited I've just when rare occasions
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would would vomit but even in those
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situations I would usually sort of
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excuse myself from the table go outside
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vomit like like a rhinoceros would vomit
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like standing up beer still in hand and
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then go back in and sit back down at the
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table and say like where were we
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it was a great advantage it was a great
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advantage if that had been a competitive
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sport you know what I mean like there
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are people that can run I'm a great
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vomiter four-minute mile I'm a really
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gifted vomiter is that right yeah I
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don't get to use it as much as I would
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like uh it's I don't know what it is
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because it's funny it's one of those
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things where uh you know when you're a
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kid like obviously to me hypodermic
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needles were the height of fear
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hypodermic needles and corporal
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punishment were the two things I'm most
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feared I never got the second and I only
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very occasionally got the first but it
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was like a guiding principle
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my life is I don't want to be hurt yet
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but but you know a far third was
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probably I didn't want to vomit I little
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kids don't like to vomit no no at some
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point and it wasn't even a drinking
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thing I just at some point I just got
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really good at vomiting I like I want to
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let God I just accepted it and I just
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said this is a thing we're gonna do it
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I've said this to you before I believe
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but I think one problem is that people
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don't like nausea but the nausea just
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makes them more anxious about vomiting
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when really want to just get it over
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that's what a pro does uh I should have
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taken that advice a couple of weeks ago
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I had him I went out got a burrito in
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Portland Oregon at two o'clock in the
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morning and night greet him a night
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burrito and it was you know it was a
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perfectly respectable place in Portland
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that I'd been before but it's a you know
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it's a shabby late night burrito but I
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got the one that you know I did what I
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do right I ordered a little bit off menu
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and even as I was eating it I was like
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this is the wrong choice not not not
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because there was anything fishy about
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the burrito but it was just like this is
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the wrong choice you don't need to eat
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this burrito at 2:00 in the morning but
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you know it's we're party and I'm
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showing off look what I can do listen
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it's not like you everybody Subway
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sandwiches over soon you gonna finish
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that no I'm not going to finish that
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we're standing over it super high I took
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the liberty of ordering one of each of
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the Subway sandwiches you know they've
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got 14 I ordered want to be I got a
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flight of subways and I would say was
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for the table but there's no table
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because we're sitting over sewer we're
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standing on a sewer that's hearing me
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Jonathan Coulton pollen storm probably
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uh no drew drew drew his armies yeah I
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don't think I'm not sure pollen storm
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you know usually those guys storm likes
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to stay out late Paul likes to get home
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back to the hotel he's got things to
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take care of he does he's got anybody
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else Drive he wants to Skype home anyway
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so then the next day I had nausea oh no
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from your night three toe and all day
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the nausea oh I drove back from Portland
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to Seattle the entire way just like
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speeds are sweat just dripping down the
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sides of my face just like I am I am
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gonna you know because I have a very
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good Constitution in the sense that I
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can eat poisonous food and survive it's
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like The Princess Bride you've been
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practicing your whole life our whole
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life right now is Ida Kane like even
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you've been taking little bits so that
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you go up against you know the Sicilian
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when death is on the line that's right I
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have I have inured myself to Ida Cain
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and also to ecoli and also to whatever
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else we can I can eat I can eat almost
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anything and I said you know this
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burrito is not gonna get the better of
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so all day I'm just oh I've just feel
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awful sweat and just blue green around
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the gills and by the time I get to my
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house I'm really incapacitated by food
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poisoning and not acknowledging it and I
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get into the house and I'm just I have
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this I guess I I thought of you
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what would Marilyn do mmm WWF MD mmm PE
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well Marcus Welby MD let's pull it and
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uh and so I went into the bathroom and
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then boy hmm did I did I let fly and and
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you know I felt uh I felt better I felt
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no longer that feeling of nausea that's
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come on it can be a kind of relief cuz
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you like alright it's finally happening
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it was except that I think by incubating
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the food poisoning for an entire day but
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you know like by will I could have
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thrown up at 9:00 in the morning you
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know by spending all day really really
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really integrating it into my whole
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corpus well the things when you when
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you're sick whether you this goes for
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downstairs basement situations too or
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upstairs situations is that you are
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you're there you're going to be there
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for as long as this thing needs to do
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what it's going to do there are no there
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are really not any shortcuts that I'm
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aware of because like even if you had
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vomited at 9:00 a.m. that's no guarantee
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you wouldn't still be vomiting all day
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long you're
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writing that initial vomit but it's
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going to work its way through your
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system one way or another and you just
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have to decide in your case you decide
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to fight it and drive sweaty but yeah
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doctors dawn and Ben there's anything
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food safety talk we both been on there I
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really enjoyed it
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uh the thing that I feel like I'm
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their show and I think you might have
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food and then you cook it in a warm bath
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thing and it was really worth it you
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could do in a ziplock bag too but the
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looks like a lightsaber you stick it in
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water and you say I went and get this
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water - exactly
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132 degrees now I've I've aged
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dried and prepackaged really nice rib
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eyes with time and the whole nine I've
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got it in a little plastic bag I pulled
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that out at you ready for this
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brace yourself I pull this out of the
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freezer you take that out of the freezer
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you did not hear me wrong 132 degree
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water you forgot it's not very hot I
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mean most will tell you like usually for
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medium-rare and there's so many ways to
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want about one somewhere in the low one
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40s usually like oh right yeah I think
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it's not usually no hard like a 142 and
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what do they tell you you're cooking
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chicken you're cooking pork chops it's
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got to be 160 because it's not 160
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you're gonna die with pork worms oh
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isn't that what they tell you that's all
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the time all the times I've had pork
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worms okay let's go this is where you
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get into the turns out though because
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guess what I do I throw frozen meat in
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plastic into a warm bath 132 degrees not
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what your mutts I heard talk about
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boiling a bag it's like about on a bag
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but it's not boil its bag no boil it's a
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delicious rib eye and then you know what
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take out steaks in two hours so you
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think I would have left the time off of
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there first of all but but but assume
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let's assume that you like the taste of
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time oh you don't like see people have
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strong feelings cilantro rosemary thyme
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people have strong feelings I feel like
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time is the stuff that that you smell
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when you're walking through Joshua Tree
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like when you're walking through the
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desert somewhere and you're kicking up
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brush yeah I she smell I don't want that
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put on my steak okay I'll leave it off
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yours all right so there's so much about
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this that is bananas so first of all the
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fact that you would have meat that 132
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degrees sounds crazy and the way that
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you would cook a steak for two hours
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sounds mental well that you would be
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using the lightsaber at all in this
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process my saber it's plugged in in the
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water you're putting electric in the
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water and then fort you put frozen meat
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in but long story short probably too
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late the thing is 132 for if you do it
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long enough kills and please do your own
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due diligence don't die from what you
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hear on a podcast but the idea is that
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you don't need to cook pork to 160 I
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cook pork to 140 to come on and and the
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thing is you do it long enough it kills
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the pathogens and the thing is mainly
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the longer you leave it in
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more it becomes it's sort of like when
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you um smoke or slow cook pork over a
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long time it gets kind of you get that
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kind of pulled pork sort of thing so if
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you put your ribeye in there you could
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put it in there for 24 hours you could
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put a rib roast in there but if people
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to steak in for 24 hours it would still
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be medium-rare it would just be kind of
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mealy and that the physics of that which
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understand it
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all I know is that knee of two years ago
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the idea of taking frozen steak and
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throwing it into a bathtub 132 degrees
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for two hours is the crazy idea in a bag
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yeah but it but it does works but this
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is where you get into the turns outs and
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this is where we get into your grease
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specifically yeah I'll bet you there's
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it turns out - how long to keep the
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grease if I have my druthers it would be
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like McDonald's I would just have grease
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sitting around like Bob all the time you
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know good to go hmm let me get back to
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the steak in a bag thing it does not
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sound like you would have a very
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appetizing outside it does not yeah so
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that's where you go to the next level
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yeah so as you know we basically live in
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hobble but yeah I like our house um you
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uh so what you do is you take it out you
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dry it thoroughly at this point you
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don't really have to let it set up you
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talk about Pat it dry with some towel I
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do some paper towels on either side and
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then you it you get the oil of your
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choice the lubricant of your choice you
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might call it let's call it bacon grease
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and a pan for me it's lard okay I've
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gone down on lard where do you buy lard
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a local grocery store made by the I
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think made by the armored company Oh
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all right Beast can you see this large
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okay this can be show notes you see this
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lard and you're gonna oh yeah that lard
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I'm gonna talk about no vegetable stuff
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ain't talking about no Crisco I'm
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talking about Mountain tikka
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I'm talking to get armored lard and your
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edits are more right arm is on the wall
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it's from the from the French yeah
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remember when they have a website
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discover the lard of difference hmm this
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is that a pun
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discover the lard of difference discover
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the lard difference Oh
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the lard difference back to basics being
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a trusted family tradition to your kit
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this is the lard
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from the stone and ye shall be King of
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England you can have to save versus the
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lot of difference um but uh well I'm
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really fascinated by this nice essential
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link oh no on the armor site maanteeeca
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maanteeeca in espanol and I'm just real
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quick real quick side road I don't want
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to derail our conversation that's so on
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track but this started for me when I got
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I got a blue apron and the blue apron
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was to make some kind of like a
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delicious Mexican dish with carnitas and
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it comes with the tiny little you know
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like if you get like if you make
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cinnamon rolls at home and you get the
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jizz and a little package like they give
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you a little jizz sized package of lard
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to cook the carnitas with and I was like
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lard that's not very healthy man I did
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it and it was fantastic it browned up
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really well in the pan and that's why I
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use it for the stick so you Pat your
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steaks well I'm going right here to if
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on the armor site yes one of the top one
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of the top navigation bars is why lard
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my lard question mark you get down you
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get in there discover the lard
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difference it's better for you it has
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better taste and better results lard is
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better it seems so obvious now pure
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natural goodness that's why your
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grandmother's grandmother trusted lard
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oh they're dropping some science on us
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bring out the big guns of grandmas
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Lauren not not because your
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grandmother's grandmother didn't have
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anything but lard it's because he knew
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it was pure natural because about the
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lard difference yeah the lard difference
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so you patted it dry yeah now you don't
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want us to get too hot but I will I will
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go to a medium setting which is still
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pretty hot especially if you're cooking
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with maanteeeca
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the heated up your oil of choice your
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lubricant of choice and then you gently
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put it in there now here's what I do
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here's a life hack I have an old a
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cast-iron pan that you know got kind of
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janky but I keep it around as a pressing
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pan look I put I put I put a stake with
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the with them on take off the lard into
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the new lodge cast-iron pan I use the
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Old Lodge cast-iron man I put on top
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like a brick like you'd make a chicken
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a brick I press it down you sit under
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when you had chicken under brick this
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show is going off the rails no no no
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people I I happen to know from feedback
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the people love when we talk about food
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under the grandmother's grandmother
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taught you checking under names like the
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chicken difference and then see it
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within like let in less than two minutes
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you get a great sear that does not
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overly medium a fie the right next to
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the delicious medium-rare nests oh
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that's the other thing with this cooking
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in the sous-vide is it is uniform every
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single cubic millimeter of that steak is
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exactly the same doneness
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but then you sear it at the end you want
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a little bit extra kosher salt or what
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would have you you can use butter you
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can use whatever you want steak and
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butter pretty good and you've got
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yourself now at this point I will drop
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that into some aluminium foil I'll fold
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it up and I'll let it set up a little
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bit I'll finish the sides because as you
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know I like all my food to be hot and
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finish at exactly the same moment cotton
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finish got the Merlin man different
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Dustin bulbous so then that's that's all
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time that's right the mascara snake uh
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okay we might be a little off the rails
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and I still gotta talk to you about the
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beetles and I still talk to you about
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parking so we have a lot to talk about
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today this can be a very little the
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thing is there's a lot of new beetles
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news which we can't always say no it's
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such a you know a week for the beetles
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but you have to be awesome
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okay uh I say something me okay good you
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fussed out a minute but you're back yeah
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you fuzz doubt - oh no no I exciting
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gonnigan hacks we gotta act you think
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it's the Russian hackers it's ransom
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where are they taking our our social
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security number Nana Ford I'm gonna use
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domain tools to get to the bottom of
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this oh I'm in I cracked the encryption
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there's green letters on my screen or in
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hmm so that's how you make a stake and
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so here's the thing though I think we
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should probably reach out to friends at
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the show doctors dawn and Ben and ask
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them for their opinion and now do we
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want to pose this in a specific way is
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it a question of how long how long is it
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safe for me to leave bacon grease in the
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pan and how long is it safe for me to
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reuse it is that kind of the question
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well but I think I think that my
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suspicion is that the word
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that the word we're looking for is not
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safe because I think the darts are moves
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like is it proper yeah or yeah basically
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sound it's gonna be one of those things
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that they you know the my experience of
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talking to those guys about food safety
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was pretty much first of all every time
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I said is it safe to eat this one of
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them would say yeah
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yes and the other would go mmm no hmm
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and it kept flip-flopping between the
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two of them and the lesson the ultimate
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lesson was in every situation you have
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to make a judgment call it's not one vet
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that's the thing is turns out there's
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not one vector to this right is it safe
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for me to eat is it safe for me to eat
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right now do I choose to take the risk
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of eating this because what they said
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was everything you put in your mouth so
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there's some risk like you know somebody
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could have pooped on your popsicle sale
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okay is it safe this thing's been frozen
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for a month is it safe to eat the easy
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answer is yes but the huge asterisk is
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well what happened to it before it was
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frozen mmm right
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right what if somebody put that chicken
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under a brick if so I put these open
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under a brick might be half a cock in
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there you don't know you don't you don't
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want to be putting that in your mouth
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just because somebody said see this is
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the this is this is the problem with the
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internet so I don't know a lot of time a
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lot of times when I have a piece of food
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that I have left out too long and I
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think this food is now into this range
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of like is this been sitting out too
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long I'll put it in the freezer and I
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figure if I leave it in the freezer for
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a month by taking your severed finger
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and putting it in a box of band-aids put
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in freezer for a month without a week
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the freezer will do something I don't
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know what and but what's the primary
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thing the freezer will do is cause me to
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forget that is out on the counter for
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too long yes and it will make the choice
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for me because when I find it in there
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later I'm gonna be like oh I didn't know
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this was in here right and then I'll
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make it out and and it'll be trouble
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free so you need to go ahead and make it
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though because I forget I forget that I
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put it in there because it had been
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sitting out on the counter I don't I
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know all along when I'm doing it's not
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the way my wife basically when she saves
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any tiny bit of food so he basically a
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garbage plus a plastic bag
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you know nobody's gonna eat that last
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you know chicken leg or the wing or
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whatever like the right of burnt wing
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like why are we keeping this I don't
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want to waste food we'll know you're
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wasting food and a bag in that case it's
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like just I just had a glimpse inside
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your marriage it's so beautiful
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I like so much about my marriage yeah
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now you're wasting food and a bag but
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loved I really am a joy to have around
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Stella Sora breakfast treats wanna be
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down there not on this thing like the
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river boy stop what are you doing
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breakfast yeah Stella d'Oro
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we're doing somebody else's bit but like
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this is still a thing I do like the
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easily 5 to 60 times a day I walk by the
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cat and she's just sitting there in the
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hallway staring she's sitting on her
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cushion by the heater cuz she's an old
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frail lady I look her I go what are you
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doing ha ha my family's to stop doing
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that you're scaring her and the cat
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looks me like what right Stella d'Oro
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breakfast treats yeah no the cat knows
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cat knows melador Oh breakfast chance
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you know you know I would album so much
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there's so much on that this we're
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talking about feeling kind of Patton and
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I well I think first comedy wall long
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time ago there's much on there that is
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not for sensitive ears uh but boy is
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that funny yeah I there's a website that
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I let me recommend it to you guys yeah
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it's called folk streams dotnet folk ok
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Volk streams net ok and it's a place
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where all of the documentary films about
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American roots cultures are archived oh
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my gosh like an it's it's like a free
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it's a net it's an it's a I feel like
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I've been to this site National Preserve
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of all these documentaries made in the
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70s I think I think I watched a movie
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here recently yeah it's just like
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whatever happened to the paddlewheel
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steamer well this is where this is where
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I got a copy of talking feet solo
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southern dance bucks my foot and tap and
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because you know why this is
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an important substrata of a very
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important movie uh what's it called
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dance and rebel yet with a guy with the
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cost of sunglasses you ever seen that
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movie oh gosh this is a terrific I'm
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sorry I'm taking you off folks dreams
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yeah talking feet I wish we had shown us
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I would put it in go Google talking feet
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solo southern dance buck flat foot and
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tap and it's an amazing documentary I
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think she came out in mid 80s but was
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made in the early early 80s and it's
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just documenting these very very old men
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who do that southern like tap oh yeah
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but like oh yeah well it's like let's
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like locking it's not a group it's it's
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a solo performance but these guys are
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amazing and they just live out in the
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sticks and they're incredible well I'm
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sorry folks dreams net folks rooms done
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that so if you want it like I'm just
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scrolling down here it's like Edie Prez
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Mel the dulcimer maker or ironworking
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yeah finish Americans a 1982 portrait of
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finish American culture in Upper
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Michigan Florida shrimping traditional
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man some change here's some Gandy
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dancers more Gandy dancers Gandy dancers
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are that uh you know they're like that
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they're singing singing as they as they
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as they build railroad tracks 1978
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documentary mermaids frog legs and
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fillets it's about basically about hip
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hop on the streets in 1978 yeah alright
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so anyway so I am on here a lot and I
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was watching a movie about the decaying
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so this movie was made in about 1981 or
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82 and it's a guy that's like there used
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to be a lot of Irish in the Bronx but
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the Irish are getting pushed out so I'm
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gonna go around all the Irish par all
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Irish bars and I'm gonna talk to all the
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Irish guys what are you doing and so
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walking over and watching this movie and
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he's just it's it's you know the guy
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like he rode his narrative out before
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you know he doesn't boys over narration
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and he's a real Irish poet so as his
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narration is very colorful language in
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his and but he goes to these bars in
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this hall as you can imagine cops and
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firemen and then a bunch of people from
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the old country who
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who've been living in the Bronx since
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the 40s and I'm like this part of the
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Bronx is not a part of New York that I
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know mm-hmm and so I started looking up
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to start looking into this part of the
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Bronx and you know I bet like you've
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been all around it but just sort of
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didn't realize like oh I guess this was
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the center of mean if you go to this
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part of the Bronx arrggh
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there's 400 Catholic churches all
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involved you know within 10 blocks
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anyway the Stella d'Oro Factory was
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right there that's where they made him
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no kidding and then just recently they
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were purchased by you know by Armand or
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by Armand Hammer or somebody buy buy a
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big breakfast cookie yeah that's right
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and then they then there they moved it
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there moved their manufacturing to the
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Alamo or something in that it's all it's
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kind of the reverse it's like New York
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City accepts reverse you watch so much
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of the same TV like that I Texas New
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York City get a rope it's my turn to
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operate I'm the sole survivor so anyways
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that you spend hours and hours on this
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because it's it never gets here there's
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Morgan Sexton the Bull Creek banjo
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player of course
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oh wow mouths music I highly recommend
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this a boot camp count off-chance
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jumprope rhymes and carny barks are
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featured in this fast-moving sampler of
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proto music wow that made me kind of
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tingly right boot camp count off-chance
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jumprope rhymes and card you can't count
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off chance boot camp that's like camp
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rat laughs had a good job at I left
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right left
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they call it attic cadence we used to do
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those when I was in military school
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c-130 on taxiway tear morphing she's
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gonna jump today sound off 1 2 sound up
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p4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 hmm we should start
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our own paramilitary unit that let me
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hear one of your let me hear one of your
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count offs I don't know
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until let's see I'm trying remember
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confusing it with Full Metal Jacket but
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I this is 1979 I was hearing these yeah
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we had lots of body Cadence's and body
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camp songs a lot of songs about vaginas
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there was a lot of references to vaginas
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even though none of us had ever seen
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vaginas your time body like B aw aw
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maudey but e body body body but where
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are we um night burrito grease dawn and
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bend gun we've gotten all the way to we
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have two beetles and parking yet I think
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so I think we got real real close to the
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bueno we're here at we're mouth music
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here's op lair the sled maker I can
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leave this I see the problem is I
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prepared a little bit for this because I
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had an experience yesterday with parking
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it's not nearly as interesting as
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talking about the Beatles oh but I just
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I feel like I had to tell you this you
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don't usually take notes so let's hear
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it's quick it's just yeah I don't want
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take us off Beatles but I just want to
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say like okay so yesterday as you record
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this it was today's Memorial Day thank
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you for your service yesterday was the
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day before Memorial Day we went down to
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Santa Cruz go to the beach boardwalk
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we're gonna you know go on some rides
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get ripped off by some games just have a
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little little very short fun family day
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and of course it's the day before
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Memorial Day so the place is mobbed and
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this place was never meant it's
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basically like a small coastal
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residential neighborhood where someone
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built a boardwalk that now is like a
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small theme park and it is not it is not
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like arriving at Disney World like a
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full teenage vampires - right yes
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skateboarding vampires many of them
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teens it's real sketchy it's got that
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kind of like beach sketchy feeling
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anyway long story short it's packed the
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parking is it takes us you know 45
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minutes just to get from like from
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somewhere to like finding parking
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there's parking lots tiny parking lots
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we finally find a parking space the Sun
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is blaring down I don't know why I'm
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telling you this except I think you'd
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appreciate it we arrived there we park
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oh god we got a space there's a meter
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alright let's go run our card through
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the meter because try put your card into
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the meters at well up to a 12-hour
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parking meter pretty great
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try to get your card in card doesn't fit
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this does not take credit cards okay
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I'll take quarters well we're going to
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put in four or five hours where the
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quarters no nobody has that anymore
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so we discover they say if you want pay
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for this
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so I look around every single one of the
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meter says expired and zero zero on it
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I'm like honey maybe they're just not
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doing them today and she's like you want
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to pay for a ticket and I said no I do
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not want to pay for a ticket but I also
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do not want to interact with an app
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because guess what
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to pay for the parking you need to get
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an app Oh see that's how they have this
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is how this is they get into hack you so
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know what I'm telling you this so I see
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there's a service called park mobile and
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I want park mobile I don't want to die
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once in a fire I want to survive and go
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through painful recovery to go die in
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another fire yep you've used park mobile
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before no no oh you don't hate pad for
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parking like an adult you put in a few
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quarters if you're going to the comic
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store or you use your credit card like
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an adult you don't you went into this
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just completely uh like you're just a
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virgin to this totally to this and I and
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I but you know and I'm you know how I am
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right yeah okay so anyway there's a
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service called Park mobile and then
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their thing is it's parking made simple
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okay what you do you're either gonna get
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the app or you can call and set up an
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account and I'm like and I'm my families
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are I'm getting that Dessie to look in
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their eyes cuz they say I'm going to a
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certain place yeah you're telling me
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that in order to park the car I've got
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to get an app or microphone or you make
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a phone call it really simple I'm
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starting to get the app so you go to
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their website their website points you
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to the App Store you go to the App Store
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you download the app you wait because
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remember you're not on a wireless
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connection you need an app to pay for
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parking so you wait you wait you wait it
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down let's okay alright alright how do I
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pay for this that's a fast Johnny guess
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what now you go go you got to create an
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account
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you gotta create a me so I say Madeline
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would you please use your iPhone and
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please call to set up an account while
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I'm doing this cuz I'm going to Hulk out
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in a minute so now you know me now I
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don't just go type a bunch of letters I
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go to my password app where I have to go
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create a new login yeah with with the
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secure password I gotta go copy that now
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I go in I create a new account pretty
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soon your garage door opener is going up
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and down that's how they get you they
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hack and hack it how they do so now I go
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enter my new account information I put
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in my email address I paste in my new
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money work you're ready to go cut pay
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for this now oh hang on a minute hang on
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now you need to configure your account
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know your license plate number oh sure
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sure sure right still part of
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configuring me very got a configure the
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account cuz now they got a license plate
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number you got to give it a name like a
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memorable name for the car for all your
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cars that you have you would give a
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memorable name called Pookie
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mine was fuck me gently and then there's
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like the Elvis song and then C name it
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well guess what now me Jackie
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but never let me go is based on orally
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so now okay this is like seriously 10 to
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15 minutes okay fine whatever you know
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week I have to pee so bad we didn't stop
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we've been driving for two hours I've
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been selling slammin seltzer the whole
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time you didn't tell me this park Oh God
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and I'm getting cross I didn't cross I'm
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in the Sun I'm already burning off some
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of my 100 SPF sunscreen that I've been
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counting on take care of me all day I'm
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you're starting up down my daughter is
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just watching the roller coaster with
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like tears in her eyes like why are we
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still here configuring it out okay can I
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do this no not yet you got one turn on
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notification so we give notifications
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about your parking okay yeah I guess
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what guess what we need your payment
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information cuz why the hell would we
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put a credit card dingus into the
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parking meter you need to enter it in
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the app with the account you just put in
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that's fine get two boys flash right you
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so guess what though you can take a
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photo of your credit card feeling great
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about this fine I enabled the camera I
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set it on this steaming hot top of our
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automobile I attempt to take a photo of
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five times it doesn't get anything oh
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that's fine let's just start over now I
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go now I go into my password app I get
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my credit card information now I gotta
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go copy 1 Z 2 Z go copy and paste all of
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that in am I done
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no now you gotta enter what parking zone
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you're in well tell you the parking zone
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please oh you can shoot the QR code now
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that you've enabled the camera on your
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fucking phone to be able to pay for the
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parking signal right I goddamn roller
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coaster on a Sunday and I entered the
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parking zone and it goes beauty Lord now
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completing your parking you have up to
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this time in the countdown you want us
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to send you reminders no we have pretty
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good time we had some fried food we I
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went on I went on a roller coaster they
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went on a sky ride it was all good then
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we got back easy you close the session I
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got four emails from all this got four
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emails I'm getting benefit Asian welcome
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so I could write this is so that I could
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have my car be somewhere for a while
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yeah give thought on this
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am I being am I you know me in my peers
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to me you're saying the machine had some
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facility to take a card just not a
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credit card yes what was the card it
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could take I think I didn't think to
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take a picture of the meter I think it
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was probably the classic prepaid card
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and and in a sensible move for once you
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would not want that to be a size that
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would accommodate a standard credit card
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because that would be very confusing to
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people right right so this was a thing
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that if you were a Santa Cruz resident
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you would get a little card that was
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your parking we have that I mean we have
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that for public transit in Union for
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parking you buy like a throwaway $20
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card for to pay for parking
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I just let's move on to the Beatles but
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like yet you feel me on this i I I am so
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I'm so filled with sympathetic rage um
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you got a good nap you got a doubt you
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got a go somewhere and what if you don't
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have a smartphone what you don't have a
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credit card you know what you would have
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done you would have walked over to the
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nearest bodega store $20 in quarters
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I know you would have said what's the
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deal with parking around here and they
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would have said oh we sell the parking
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cards 20 bucks see you're smart and you
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would've gone we all know for next time
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I think right but maybe not maybe the
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guy at the counter would have said like
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yeah get it out but I feel like this is
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when I look around and I see every one
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of these that says 0-0 and expired on it
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and I'm thinking you but that's an
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argument you're having with your wife
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not with not with the meter you want to
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get a ticket
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I said yeah honey I want to get a ticket
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that's why I'm sitting here configuring
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a nap in the Sun so stuck him in a
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sulking camu novel the problem is that
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year that even Santa Cruz now is too
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close to San Francisco to ever be a real
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town again the cops they bring in the
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apps and so I I just played this
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festival right the long winters got back
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together we played this upstream music
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festival it's being put on by Paul
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Allen's company Vulcan it's all a lovely
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or organization and I know a lot of the
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people there I actually am on the board
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which apparently was not a conflict of
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interest when they asked me to play
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because they never gave any information
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to the board or asked us to any
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questions at all but when we got our
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packets because when you're playing a
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big festival like this right you get
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packets sure you're gonna get a packet
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I'll give you a packet and Sean Nelson
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got his packet first and Sean has each
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Sean has become somebody I guess who
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does his due diligence there's any an
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editor he is yes and make sure that
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things are proper he does and so he on
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behalf at own he also he lives in
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Pioneer Square so on behalf of the band
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he said I'm gonna go down and and figure
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out what the deal is which is great if
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you're playing a big festival and you
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have somebody you know you have somebody
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doing advanced listen in any situation
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if you want to make yourself suddenly
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very useful be the person who decides to
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go and figure out what the deal is yeah
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go find out was always a deal to be
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figured out your your your recon right
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your your your the your your Ranger you
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could spend four hours guessing or 20
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minutes finding out what the dealio is
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find out what the deal is so Sean comes
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back this is all happening via text and
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he said here's the thing you have to go
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to the you have to go to the football
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field to the to the box office there get
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your packet and then you have to you
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have a wristband but you have to
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activate the wristband what it's as much
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as a smart wristband and to activate the
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wristband you have to get the app oh my
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god and once you get the app then you
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activate the wristband but there is a
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full full typewritten page with a second
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page of addenda of instructions about
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how to activate the wristband and like
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all this stuff like if you if you do
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this wrong then you're you can't get
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into the festival for the rest of the
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day no evil I'm John now enjoy that's
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right and just on and on and he's sean
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is reading all these like rules and
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regulations about the wristband and and
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but he said since we're playing we have
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two wristbands but the instructions are
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saying do not
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activate two wristbands if you activate
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two wristbands its null and void you can
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only activate one but it doesn't say
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which one and it's just like this uh
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it's just this thing that state you know
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Shaun is getting very frustrated and
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very like what is this is madness and
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it's the same thing like you can't
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download the app because he's standing
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in the middle of a parking lot and so
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Eric and Nabil both like sitting in
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their respective homes like went through
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all this process downloaded the app got
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prepared for the for the for the event
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for the day and I did what you might
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expect you guess what I did I did
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nothing about it until it was too late
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to do anything about it
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yes okay I took the the under that
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strategy
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I took the envelope with both of my
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wristbands and all the instructions and
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several VIP drink tickets and what up
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whatever else and I put it in the front
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pocket of my jacket and I walked around
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the festival and I went everywhere that
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I wanted to and when I would walk up to
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a place and they would say do you have a
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wristband I would say yeah it's here and
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I would Pat my jacket as I walked past
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them well no one stopped me and when
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when it was time to to park in order to
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do the to do our show there's I was like
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where's the artists parking and they
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said oh there isn't any and so I had
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time to get wristbands with apps but
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they don't have time to figure out a
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place for loaning they designed it they
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design an app but they didn't think
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about loading so I just parked my truck
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right in front of the venue like on the
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not on the sidewalk but it was like a
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Plaza and I took one of the VIP drink
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tickets and I put it under the
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windshield wiper and it work there's so
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many ways it might end up working I'm
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not going to use it as a drink ticket
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right and it says VIP on it so I put it
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under the windshield wiper that's kind
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of all and I sat there and watch and all
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day long cops on their beat swinging
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their nightsticks would walk by they
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stopped but look at this thing it is
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look at them the VIP drink ticket and
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they'd be like amen all they'd stroll
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you know because should be good and uh
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and I end and then it was
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for the show the big show the night show
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and we're standing out front we're
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talking people are coming up to the
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shoulders line of people trying to get
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in and the bill walks over he says I
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just talked to the woman at the front
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door and she says they don't have the
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guest list and I was like what this is
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not good you know we're going on in 45
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minutes
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I walked over and said uh I just heard
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that you don't have the guestlist what
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do we have to do and she said oh it's
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not that I don't have the guest list
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it's that we have no provision for us
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having a guest list nobody said it word
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about guest list and we're not supposed
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to have that here I said how does that
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she said well the guests your guests are
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supposed to go down to the football
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field and get the wristband and get the
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app and activate the app are you kidding
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me and I said oh that's not gonna work
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at all and she said well I that's the
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that's the deal so I so I called my guy
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the the person that had been repping us
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to the festival and I was like or the
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our festival rep rather and I said hey
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what's the story and he said well it's a
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festival it's not every club doesn't
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have a guest list it's like a fast and I
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said yeah but you're describing it as a
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fest like Bonnaroo or something where
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there's one door one gate and you stop
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at the gate and you get everything you
[TS]
00:45:48
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need before you go through the gate but
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00:45:50
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this is you're having this event in a
[TS]
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town this is your first year
[TS]
00:45:55
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this isn't how things are done we're you
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00:45:57
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know like people are they're gonna show
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up for the show they're not going to go
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to the football stadium and he's like
[TS]
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well I don't know what to tell you you
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know this is the I didn't design it this
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is the thing and you got you got to have
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00:46:11
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your your app and it's just I mean it's
[TS]
00:46:16
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just implicit in all of this though is
[TS]
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that everybody has a smartphone from a
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major vendor that will allow them to
[TS]
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number two then wirelessly go to a site
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get an app yeah I mean it's I guess it's
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probably a fairly safe bet but oh my god
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all system that you have you know then
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you put in all this information
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foundational yeah and then you then you
[TS]
00:46:41
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have to you have to enable the
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00:46:43
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microphone just in case it needs to hear
[TS]
00:46:46
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you scream or you need to you know it's
[TS]
00:46:49
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gonna send you notifications now for the
[TS]
00:46:51
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rest of the year and so forth give
[TS]
00:46:52
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yourself a memorable nickname fuck me
[TS]
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general so I'm on the phone with this
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guy and I said listen it because you
[TS]
00:47:00
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know I've been practicing for a long
[TS]
00:47:01
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time like you know you've said to me
[TS]
00:47:04
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many times that I should be nicer have a
[TS]
00:47:07
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and well you know read between the
[TS]
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launcher and I've heard this from a lot
[TS]
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of people you should be nicer and you
[TS]
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know for every time that I put a VIP
[TS]
00:47:16
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drink ticket under the windshield wiper
[TS]
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of my truck and I get away with murder
[TS]
00:47:19
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all day there's another time when I'm
[TS]
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like angry to somebody and that makes
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them sad and that's not what so I remain
[TS]
00:47:30
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not just calm but very friendly and I
[TS]
00:47:32
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say to this person let me let me
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describe what's gonna happen what I want
[TS]
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what's gonna happen is about 15 minutes
[TS]
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from now my eighty two and a half year
[TS]
00:47:41
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old mother is gonna walk up to the door
[TS]
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of this venue and she's gonna say hello
[TS]
00:47:46
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I'm on the guest list they're going to
[TS]
00:47:49
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say we've never heard of this guest list
[TS]
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thing you need to go eight blocks to the
[TS]
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football stadium download get your
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wristband download an app and the guy on
[TS]
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the other end of the line is he's he's
[TS]
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already with me right he's with me now
[TS]
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and I said see that is just not gonna
[TS]
00:48:06
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work at all right my 83 year old mother
[TS]
00:48:10
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82 and a half I'm sorry it's not it's
[TS]
00:48:13
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not I'm not gonna ask her to make this
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Trek particularly not because she showed
[TS]
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up here 10 minutes before we went on
[TS]
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right and he's like right right right I
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see I see I understand and I said so
[TS]
00:48:22
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there's gotta be some kind of situation
[TS]
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where you can send someone here to
[TS]
00:48:28
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handle this someone here to the venue to
[TS]
00:48:31
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handle this situation because I can't
[TS]
00:48:35
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handle it and you can do it the people
[TS]
00:48:37
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at the door can't handle it but it needs
[TS]
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to get handled
[TS]
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and he said let me let me let me let me
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call you right back and I said okay so
[TS]
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I'm standing there and about four
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minutes later here comes a guy up the
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street and he's exactly the guy you want
[TS]
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to see because this is a festival being
[TS]
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put on by by Paul Allen and Vulcan right
[TS]
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so all the security at all these events
[TS]
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are the same people that work the
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football games because they don't
[TS]
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they've never put on a music festival
[TS]
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before so they don't understand that
[TS]
00:49:07
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that's a thing that's a different kind
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of thing right there are production
[TS]
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people who do it for a living production
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is an actual job event production is a
[TS]
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high level job it's our intent planning
[TS]
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it's it's you know anything we think
[TS]
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like oh I can be an event planner it's
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like because I schedule meetings and
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people come to them it's like no you're
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really shooting a bullet with a bullet
[TS]
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there's so many things even if
[TS]
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everything you plan goes flawlessly you
[TS]
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haven't accounted for the even be the
[TS]
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beginning of your job when everything
[TS]
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doesn't go as planned you see this in
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tech all the time people are just like
[TS]
00:49:35
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oh I can do this anyway the guy shows up
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he's uh he's dressed head to toe in
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black which is what you want black jeans
[TS]
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black sleeveless t-shirt he has a radio
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with a with like a microphone on his
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shoulder good signs out signs
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yep he has a Maglite and a Leatherman oh
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yeah this is Jade on the sides of his
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heads are shit sides of his head is
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shaved but on the top he's got a like
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black hair pulled back into a ponytail
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he's got a Maglite he's probably got
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some got some tape he's down the gun the
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leather man he's got it all going on he
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walks up puts his hand out he says hi
[TS]
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John we've worked together before
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and I said it's great to see you and he
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said what do you need I said here's a
[TS]
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situation he said don't worry about it
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show me your guest list and I pulled it
[TS]
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up on my phone and he sat while I'm
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holding my phone and he wrote all the he
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didn't want me to email it to him
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whew he just sat and like tapped in all
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the names into his own phone really fast
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and I was like I can just email this to
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you and he was like nope I got it and I
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you know and I'm do
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in this while people are talking to me
[TS]
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right like he's not demanding any
[TS]
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attention either he's just like I
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understand I got this covered and then
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immediately everything was fine and I am
[TS]
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I grabbed him by the elbow and I was
[TS]
00:51:08
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like why are you not doing this already
[TS]
00:51:10
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and he said when they when they announce
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this festival six months he's like leans
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in or quiet when I they announce this
[TS]
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festival six months ago I sent them an
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email and I said hey I'm like I'll
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handle security and production for you I
[TS]
00:51:26
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have a production company I'll do this
[TS]
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work for you and I didn't hear back for
[TS]
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that from them for five and a half
[TS]
00:51:32
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months and two weeks ago they wrote me
[TS]
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and said will you please help us a
[TS]
00:51:37
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little bit of a fire fest type situation
[TS]
00:51:38
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yeah and he was like so I'm working for
[TS]
00:51:41
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him I could have done all this I could
[TS]
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have made all this a long time ago it
[TS]
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could have been fine
[TS]
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but anyway now it's fine I've got your
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stuff fret not
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and so I heard let so I left and went up
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on the stage and I heard later that as
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my people showed up at the door they
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were like I'm on the guest list and the
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people in throat were like welcome so
[TS]
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nobody got the app nobody nobody got the
[TS]
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wristbands they didn't even know that
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about this story Merlin they never even
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learned that there was a thing that they
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were getting around this doesn't get
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some kind of an award you know what he
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does get he gets the reward of being a
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professional that kicks ass at his job
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yeah I mean then I hope that they paid
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the shit out of him because I mean I
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keep to praise upon him and was like
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thank you but the thing is as soon as I
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saw him coming down the street I was
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like oh someone from my tribe like here
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I recognized what I see this person and
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no TV you've met this Ranger before oh
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yeah you know this kind of Ranger that's
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walking up to you because he's walking
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up with the with also the astride of
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someone who is not like this is not a
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guy who is going to follow orders and
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one day be convicted of a war crimes but
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you know somebody's just the way a fella
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carries himself you just know whether or
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not he'll illy he'll be a charged with
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the war crime yeah this is not a second
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lieutenant with his helmet on backwards
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calling down artillery on his own
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position yeah this is somebody who's
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like at a certain point when he gets an
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order that's that's fubar mm-hmm he's
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gonna be like that order he's gonna
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pluck that order that's right he's gonna
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say and down sir yeah he's gonna say I
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love your G sir I would prefer not to
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I do not prefer it uh so anyway all by
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way of saying you sit in this podcast
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game the fucking app oh yes I don't want
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any more apps I want fewer apps oh oh oh
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oh I didn't tell you I know you want to
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get to the Beatles but there's one more
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thing we have a loyal listener to our
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program who lives in Portland and she
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runs a she runs an operation called
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strange vacations which is a like it's a
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motorcycle clothing and lifestyle
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company for women and vacation strange
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vacations
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synthetics it's in PDX that's right and
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she's got a you know a great collection
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of it's not just that they do leather
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jackets but they do events oh my God
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look at this stuff yeah they they do you
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know they're it's like a it's like a an
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organization to bring like motorcycle
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women who ride motorcycles of all of all
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stripes
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technically it's a Squarespace site not
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just like us so she sent me a thing the
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other day uh and I you may have heard of
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it you may not have but it's a www.the
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light phone calm are you familiar with
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the light phone
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no looking now the light phone the
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lights on you said I saw this I thought
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of you I thought you thought you might
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like it the light phone oh my god
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it is fun it is a phone the size of a
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credit card also Squarespace site and it
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has it has 10 preset people and then
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just numbers on it it is just a phone
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it's it's real little you can't text on
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it you can't do
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anything on it's just and any thing is
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it's tethered to you're not tethered
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it's somehow connected to your normal
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phone so it's your same phone number so
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for sometimes about four times when you
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don't want a smart phone when you
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literally just want to be reachable by
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phone right so you leave your smartphone
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at home you put this in your pocket that
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you can call the ten people you most
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regularly call and they can reach you
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people can reach you but otherwise you
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are free from having to look at your
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thing I could use that I can so use that
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right now and I think I think they said
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it's like five bucks a month I mean it's
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there they're doing everything they can
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to make it like just like Thomas hey you
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noticed a namaste I was kind of so she
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was gonna make us a leather jacket kind
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of bombed well you know I said to her at
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one point Alex if you want to make me a
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leather jacket I would accept it where's
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where's that where's the rock swag and
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she was like oh next time we get a big
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order in and then I never you know she
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sends me this kind of shit but never
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says like oh yeah something dangerous
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somebody takes the time to reach out and
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offer us something useful or like that's
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all very interesting oh here's my free
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shit that's great but well what about
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the leather jack what about the
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thousand-dollar leather jacket that you
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never said that you would make us anyway
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well I thank you for your service
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so I I was uh I was looking around the
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other day somebody suggested that there
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was a new Beatles documentary and so I
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Lewin well so I went around looking for
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it it was made by Ron Howard ha ha ha
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heartbreaking and I couldn't find it
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except on Hulu it's made made by and for
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Hulu and I went to Hulu and they were
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like you got download the app and then
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you have to put in your you have to pick
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a pick a name pick like a cute nickname
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for yourself
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get 30 days free but then you know but
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then we're just gonna suck 15 dollars
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out of your life for the rest of your
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life I was like there's got to be a
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better way and so I went on the internet
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and I was like I want to watch this for
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free how do i watch this for free and I
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oh I never do this and I hate to do it
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hunc is always awful it says good odds
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with how you approach this industry but
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I found a place where and I think it had
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Japanese subtitles
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something this sounds legit started
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watching this movie and I was just like
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oh it was you know you think there's no
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new Beatles news Under the Sun there's
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no new footage there's no new stories
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you've heard it all you know every
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cliche backwards and forwards chapter
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and verse it's so wonderful when you
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discover that there's more Beatle stuff
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and great Beatles stuff like all this
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live footage the cleaned up audio and
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you can hear how great they are live and
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when they did that sound great to
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themselves they couldn't ring ring go
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could not hear anything but here it
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couldn't hear a thing but they hear but
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there they are and then about halfway
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through watching this thing it stops oh
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no and I go try to refresh it and it's
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gone like I am watching some pirate shit
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as it's being taken down it's like it's
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like the the light of another Sun and by
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the time he gets here that that sounds
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actually dead that Sun was gone right I
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was just watching the I was watching the
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master nice might have been dead when
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you started watching it it's right the
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dying embers of I mean I heard millions
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of souls cry out and all were
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extinguished at once
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seven seven sided lighthouse made of
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dreams right that's right so that's no
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moon mmm you know what I'm saying
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wasn't it sad though I mean it's you
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just feel the melancholy I so much
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there's so much Beatles news this week
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I'm currently reading a book called
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Beatles 66 and it's an entire book
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length book all about starting really in
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December 65 it's the length of a book
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yeah it's a whole book about what
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happens with the Beatles in 1966 great
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year for the beetle which is easily the
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most interesting really the most
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interesting Beatles year and just in
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short that means it's basically Rubber
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Soul comes out to getting December 65
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they do a small tour in the UK they take
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three months off which if you know the
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Beatles and go look at some of the
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infographics on the Beatles that
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happened I think once period this is
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this where they went down to the islands
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they were in Greece in pre Maharishi I
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believe but I haven't got that part of
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the book yet but it's the thing to know
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is that a lot of their interests as
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individuals developed during this period
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they didn't have the same haircut
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anymore etc etc I mean there's
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lots of what those three months to come
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back they record revolver they release
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revolver they do a little at this point
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now so now they're done touring they're
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done touring at this point and then they
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start recording Sergeant Pepper at the
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end of the year
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end of the year
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along with lots of life stuff I mean
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Paul and John's relationships break up
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Jon meets Yoko Ringo meets Charlie
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Chaplin there's all these things that
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happen there's questions about what the
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next movie can and should be I mean
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these are things were today this all
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seems normal because you're used to help
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pop culture and culture works back then
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the idea of the most popular and
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successful band in the world is gonna
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stop touring like that's what rock music
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is rock and roll rock and roll is
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touring putting out records touring
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putting out records who do you think you
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are what are you you know Leonard
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Bernstein you're gonna sit around and
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write songs about love like get out
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there mean amok ciao yeah that's right
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but then the idea that like they
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wouldn't just jump into an ill-advised
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third movie when they didn't like the
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script there's all these things that
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they did were people like well this is
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put a fork in them finally finally the
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Beatles are going to be exposed for the
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frauds that they are there's a career
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there are little things a fluke
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you got read reviews of Rubber Soul in
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like an enemy and melody maker and like
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has kind of a nice song and it's you
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know in my life is like oh it has like a
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nice piano melody but you know none but
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it's finally over yep this is it I mean
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really these guys they they the songs
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know where man is so repetitious fool on
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a hill like look that just this they
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tried you know it's swinging to miss
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next man please mm-hmm
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sorry so anyway 1966 but in this case it
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wasn't it heartbreaking though you know
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that for years they were playing
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sometimes three shows a day they like in
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Liverpool they would play a a lunchtime
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show at the Cavern Club and then to
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evening shows at different venues they
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were for a time playing up to three at
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least three like gigs a day
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I think they honestly legitimately did
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love it and then they become successful
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and now it's the worst it's like it's
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like they're trying to swim around in
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jello it's so not rock and roll I mean
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it is rock and roll to the audience like
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oh my god and we've been watching so
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much because I told you last night we
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watched a hard day's night and my
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daughters request that's such a great
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that iconic you just look at a
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silhouette of those four guys and I
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explained the appalls over on the left
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because you know he's left-handed and
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that makes this stage set up like so
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iconic it is the a conic but you show a
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silhouette of the four Beatles with
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wrinkled up on the drum riser you
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instant there's no question in your mind
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who those four people originally were
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then they can't laugh is not fun life is
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not fun life is pulling teeth they feel
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like they're treading water they're
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musically they feel like they're moving
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backward musically I'm confused what
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role did Charlie Chaplin play in the
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breakup of the Beatles not the breakup
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of the Beatles since is 66 this is just
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from the first chapter of this book
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explaining why this was such a momentous
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year it's just in the service of saying
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that really the short version is that
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from depending on when you start
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counting let's say 62 through 65 it was
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just a non-stop series of escalating
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craziness as you saw in that documentary
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they were increasingly I mean you you
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already know like oh the Beatles
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couldn't walk around cuz you know young
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people would chase them like everybody
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knew is that you've seen a hard day's
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night that was partnered dinner but the
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truth was their life was unmanageable
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people were threatened the Ku Klux Klan
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political groups the people were
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threatening their lives at this point
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they could not go anywhere they really
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really were stuck for guys they're
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mostly indistinguishable to strangers
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for identical looking guys who played
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terrible music and then all the people
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who wanted to possess them that's what
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it was and all the only only people in
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their lives were a handful of like
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girlfriends and music professionals and
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so it was the first time since the
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Beatles got anywhere near popular that
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they had any air at all to go and
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develop new interests you know go get
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into you know Stockhausen or go out and
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get into like whatever it is go out and
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discover these things that would become
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hugely important in the giant middle
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phase of the Beatles well I'm sorry I'm
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talking a lot because it's such a big
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Beatles week what struck me about that
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documentary I mean there were 50 things
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that struck me about hard but one of the
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interesting things that it just that had
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never been had never been shown to me in
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exactly that way was how much the
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phenomenon of the Beatles was
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registering as world historical to the
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people of the time like the the
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journalists were saying this is an
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unprecedented crowd of people this has
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never happened before no one has ever no
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one expected this
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right no one knows what to do about this
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this this sense of that that guy that
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followed them on tour who you know his
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boss said you want to go out with the
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Beatles he was like no why would I want
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to do that that seems like a dumb thing
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why are you sending me a seasoned
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reporter on this dumb junket and then
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two weeks in he's like I'm basically I
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am living out the most extraordinary
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event in the 20th century and this is
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this is what uh 20 years after the end
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of World War two most adults are you
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know World War two is going to be their
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formative tentpole moment for the 20th
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century but this is like something above
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and beyond what anybody could have ever
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seen or known what to do and and that
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hearing those voices and realizing that
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from inside it I mean they were we you
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always see the picture you know that
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that like yeah there's never been a
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Beatles before right like Beatle mania
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sure it's but we're we're all post
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beetles and to to hear those people
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talking having been pre Beatles and now
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being like trying to make sense of it it
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was so thrilling but also just
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terrifying because it had never happened
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before and so who wants to keep that
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tonight tonight being the night that
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that everybody dies right I mean every
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seconds you felt even even taking into
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account whatever Johnny rays and Frank
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Sinatra's of the past it felt it felt
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unprecedented it felt weird so once it
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started it seemed really exceptional
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once it escalated it seemed even more
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uncanny once it went to like 10 times
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that people like well this has to end
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like so it really becomes the in a
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relatively short you were talking about
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like a year and a half or less you go
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from like they had a small single with
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like love me do if you like a year ago I
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think let me do have like 18 months
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between when it first came out and like
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when they really caught on they're a
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popular band but there are tons of
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popular big beat bands they call them
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Merseybeat bands but then the entire
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time you're a grown up it's like it's
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not so different for the condition I
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have today where I'm just going like
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okay it's another day how long can this
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on can this this there's no way this can
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go on in another week let alone another
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month talking about something different
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here but think back then if you're one
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of the burgers and Meister's like you
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just be going like there's no way this
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can continue this has got to be exposed
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as a fraud and blow up in a shower of
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sparks yeah yeah yeah right Oh or
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something awful is going to happen you
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know like it like people are going to
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there's just no we we didn't prepare it
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was only because it was an era of
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greater civility that people didn't die
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because they you know there were 25 cops
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and all of a sudden there are 25,000
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people there and they just didn't have
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the if the crowd had been unruly or less
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rouille
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you know they could have just stormed
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the storm the doors or whatever it was
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that you see all those scenes where
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there's like 10 bobbies holding hands
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with their hats getting knocked off and
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they're like you know no stay back
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but effect but that's effective right
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the ten bobbies holding their hands and
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the girls are like well we can't cross
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the police line right now you know it
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would have been I mean everyone would
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everyone would have would have been I
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mean it's astonishing to think no one
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was crushed to death and nobody was
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thinking about and improvised explosive
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device right no none of those Ku Klux
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Klan guys actually did ride in and ran
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burn the place to the ground
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and and you know and these four
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ding-a-lings are riding the crest of
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this wave and you know and it's so
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lovely to see that they did have each
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other in those in those years and they
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did have that sort of I I didn't know
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about thee about the fact that they had
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they decided internally that they were
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absolutely democratic and if one if one
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Beatle didn't want to do something then
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they wouldn't do it
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and I just thought that was that was a
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miracle I couldn't I I couldn't fathom
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that they actually made all the
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decisions that they made from 63 or 61
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to to whenever you know that the
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decision to stop touring was just like
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George saying
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I can't do this anymore and they were
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all like right right sure
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done and that's like that's so lovely
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and considering like how fast that all
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fell apart and by two years later they
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couldn't stand to be in the room with
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each other but yeah imagine imagine
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having them it's all damming through
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this either bad you know right they're
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young they're in their early 20s they're
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they are very young their life is
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changing very very quickly and yeah I
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mean that's the thing is when you look
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at the stuff and you look at the the
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pictures in the movies and everything we
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feel you know we're so nerd toward
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toward those images but they were they
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were living that this was all new to
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them and they didn't know where was
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going to go either
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they basically it was understood the
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question they would get in almost every
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interview was okay so this is clearly
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this is gonna end soon what are you
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gonna do John and Paul would say well
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we'll probably be songwriters and it was
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generally I'm just quoting this book at
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this point Beatles 66 is the oh well you
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know for Ringo and George whatever money
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they end up with they should probably
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invest in business yeah obviously this
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this will be over with any day now and
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there are a couple of scenes in the
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movie where Paul's like well you know I
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think it'll last another six months and
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and he's in a rare instance you know
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being sincere they're not being snarky
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they're like yeah I know you know who it
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can't last right right like this is
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madness oh poor Beatles horrible this
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week so much so I was so the Beatle 66
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thing highly recommended
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I had heard I just want to stipulate I
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really liked the band The Beatles um
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Sergeant Pepper on a good day is my
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fourth favorite Beatles album probably
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is like I would cite and the top ones
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change but Rubber Soul revolver white
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album Rubber Soul revolver white album
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are always going to be to me jockeying
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for top position and then you get down
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into like with the Beatles or Abbey Road
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but like you know surgeon peppers
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hasn't aged well - there's a lot of
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rubber sole is 51 years old and still
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sounds like they're inventing a new kind
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of music and obviously revolver I think
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is I don't know fight me it's the best
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album revolver is well I mean I've all I
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want to say is that its conventional
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wisdom I feel like this I don't know if
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it started with this but I I feel like
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the 25th anniversary whenever that was
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of twenty years because it was twenty
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years ago today so I guess that would be
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90s or 87 rather there's this whole like
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all you know Sergeant Pepper there would
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be no this and that without Sergeant
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Pepper and they were definitely know the
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Beach Boys and the Beatles were playing
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off each other at the apex and there
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would not be psychedelia there would not
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be multitrack like I it is I try to
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stipulate it's a good album and it's got
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some great songs it's a gestalt album no
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no I accept and understand the
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importance of Sergeant Pepper there are
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so many other albums I would put on
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first so I just wanted to just want to
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prepare you for my adulation here by
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saying that's my position on Sergeant
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Pepper would you like to share your
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position on Sergeant Pepper
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so I also AM ace my feeling has always
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been that Sergeant Pepper is a little
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bit of a mixed bag of fruit and there's
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a lot of stuff on there that yeah III
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don't go back to over and over obviously
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there are some great songs and obviously
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it's the Beatles and every song is great
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yeah well like do you come home from
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working at the bar and put put on for
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the benefit of mr. kite hmm typically no
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yeah but um and and you know in it and
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it foreshadowed a lot of the stuff on
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the White Album that is kind of like you
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know a little bit a little bit
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responding to what I imagine is what
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they think is the culture in you know in
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downtown London that I mean you know you
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those guys are still young guys and so
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I think sensitive to being called a
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you-know-what at the point at which the
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Beatles became an epithet that the cool
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art kids would use to describe something
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to that and and really a lot of the the
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exploratory nature of their later work
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was both driven by their own sort of
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desire to to be uh to not be static but
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also you know we can't know what it's
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like for them to go out to some club in
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London and have hipsters sneer at them
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it was in a really different culture and
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time the music the music magazines were
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very important back then and like
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anybody who's ever going to abandon
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England you get frustrated with the
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press because they got their own thing
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going on but unlike today where you
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might more easily be criticized for
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being unsophisticated back then it would
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just be article after article about how
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their days are up because they think
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they've forgotten how to make a catchy
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song and so they were trying all this
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like putting a sitar on stuff which they
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described as an Arabian guitar in the
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press like they they were the Beatles
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were two or three steps ahead of the
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entire mainstream in that way and the
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music was described I'm getting quoting
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this book I don't have in front of me
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but I remember very clearly their music
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was became described as dark starting
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around Rubber Soul although I think you
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really could uh
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Beatles for secretary feels resale is
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very dark yeah you can hear it and help
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oh god yes and like but they but they
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but dark considered dark in an industry
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where promoting good feelings is the
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stock-in-trade so it was considered like
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these guys have really lost the thread
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on what they're doing here well so
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there's that but there's also all those
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I mean you think about like the John
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Mayall & the Bluesbreakers or that that
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whole movement of events even the stones
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like there's so much cooler than the
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Beatles
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yeah just happening I get sixties in
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England where it was like you know oh
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we're not we're not making this like pop
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music we're playing the Blues we're
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serious white British dudes playing the
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and whatever else you know that they
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were under all that social pressure
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people doing avant-garde dance
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performances and whatnot and the Beatles
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are trying to be on the vanguard of
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everything because of who they are you
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know they want to be they don't want to
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I mean that was that that was what was
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so profound about that about Dylan at
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Royal Albert Hall and the effect that
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that had on John just that they went to
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see Dylan and you could hear a pin drop
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and John was like why don't people
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listen to us like that like that that
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feeling that he could get up there by
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himself and be so serious so respected
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so unimpeachable and I mean then again
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Dylan is another phenomenon where you go
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well there's never going to be another
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one of those I mean imagine imagine what
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it would be like to be somebody that
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that really was unimpeachable for for
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unimpeachable to all the people that you
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desperately as an artist want to be
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unimpeachable to that's the crazy thing
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I mean there were the plenty of critics
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of Dylan but all of the but none of the
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critics of Dylan were the people that
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Dylan cared about it would be almost
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like at a time when there were comic
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strips in the paper it would almost be
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like there was a comic strip that got
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really popular and then it got popular
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with your smart friends and pretty soon
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it was generally agreed to not only be
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the most important comic strip of all
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time but one of the great works of
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literature we be going how could how
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could a comic strip in the paper be one
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of the greatest pieces of literature
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that's antithetical these are pop groups
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these are pop that's the other thing the
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Beatles did not call themselves a rock
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band they called themselves a pop group
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they were a product in a lot of ways for
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the beginning of their career who would
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look at them we're doing like this guy
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what folk music is going to become this
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really important thing folk music come
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on this is 1961 guys break up right it's
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not 1935 and yes sorry ma kettle is not
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going to be on the charts and then there
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and there it is I as an artist as
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somebody working in this in this
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vernacular you know you you always want
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to be the you desperately want to be the
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band that not only that everybody loves
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but even more importantly that everybody
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respects and and you see you see artists
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throughout time that kind of come out
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with a thing people love it they respect
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it and then there's there's two ways you
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can go right you can be respected and
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then your popularity falls off or you
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can be popular and your respectability
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falls off but those few sorry it's so
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rare data to obtain and sustain both
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it's very unusual stay up on that Ridge
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and also step on that Ridge and seam and
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make it seem like it's effortless you
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know Dylan did everything he could to
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dislodge himself and all it did was put
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him put him back up there and and you
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know and you think about like the Eagles
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who were one of the most successful
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bands in history and desperately craved
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critical acknowledgement which they
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which you know the critics just denied
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them and you think about I mean even
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bands of our of our age the The Strokes
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that first strokes record like everybody
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loved it but they weren't able to
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maintain it they couldn't stay up there
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somehow they and I think it was you know
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it was a big big factor in Harvey
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dangers kind of Harvey danger was
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motivated by a desire to be respected by
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the music critics much more than they
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were by desire to be internationally
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famous and you know those those
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pressures really took their toll on
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those guys um and Death Cab for Cutie
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you know my my pals who have who have
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done this career where they I think
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worked very hard to get this to get on
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this particular Ridge that they're on
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which is that their critical appraisal
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and their fan and the passion of their
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fans has remained constant throughout
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their career always growing at a steady
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pace you know they've never
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made a record that the critic said this
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is the you know they've lost it they've
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never really lost their fans but they've
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never they've also never like hit the at
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the big time considering how long their
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career has gone like by this point and I
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mean the death caps been a band for 20
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years um yeah I don't listen him to them
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for 18 years that means when I started
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listening to Death Cab for Cutie a baby
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born on that day would now be getting
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ready for college Yeah right
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I know exactly right or I mean if if if
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it was a par if you overlaid our EMS
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career onto Death Cab for Cutie's career
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we're into the 2000s in the REM canons
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right Wow
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so so Death Cab could have at any point
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along that way had a record that was
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their automatic for the people and they
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never have but by the same token they've
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never they've never like had a record
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where it was like well you've had a
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couple of million sellers and then the
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next one sold a hundred thousand copies
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well they don't have a den in self
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portrait yeah our Metal Machine music
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they never they never went crazy or been
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different version of Metal Machine music
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you know I know it you never you never
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know you never know what comes I can see
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Chris wallet and that maybe but for me
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you know the the the desire to be
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critically loved is so powerful even
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even if you sit with your friends and
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this is what all artists do they said
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make it wow they don't know anything but
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you know the critics are all black you
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know the shit-talking critics is number
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one thing you do on a Saturday afternoon
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with your musician friends but you also
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just want like I for some reason I don't
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know what happened I went and looked at
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pitchforks top albums of 2002 mm or mm
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yeah I don't know why why would you look
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at that that's a strange way I don't
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even occur to you to look at I know it
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was weird it's weird I'm going by what
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they thought about that year also create
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just looking I was just looking folks
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dreams I think and I just got isn't it's
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just checking out 2002 just look back
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then looking to see what and you know
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the number
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album pitchforks number one album of
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2002 was Interpol's turn on the bright
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lights love will tear us apart and you
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know and there were there were a lot of
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bands in the top 20 that that I don't
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think anybody's heard of since
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ml knows by the trail of dead
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oh yeah Arctic Snow Patrol monkeys its
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way up there sure
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sure the Arctic snow patrol monkeys were
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were there I get I get it maybe a Franz
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Ferdinand maybe you get a dog's die in
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hot cars what do you get I think maybe
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those even those came a year later okay
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um you know you get some shins you get
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some gonna be born on occurs but uh oh
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yeah that would be like a blown speakers
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era maybe New Pornographers pitchfork
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2002 elmo's or is they called them then
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LPS LPS 2002 LPS can't here we go songs
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Ohio songs Ohio that was a great record
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actually yep okay line from Sonic Youth
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mm-hmm yeah no oh then no twist I always
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forget the name of that band I like the
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new DOS list yeah kill the moonlight
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very good especially when you listen to
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it backwards that is a good good record
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girls can tell is better trail of dead
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bleeps and bloops Yankee Hotel Oh Yankee
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Hotel Foxtrot that was the one I really
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shook my fist at yeah really
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at the time you like the more tinsel
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ones well no I felt like that I felt
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like the long winters uh worst you can
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do is harm oh that's right you had that
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album come out around that time the
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worst you can do is harm ya just
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wouldn't believe me that that just wants
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in Italy coincidentally uh and if you
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know I felt like if you put a worse you
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can do is harm an Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
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side-by-side yeah you know there I mean
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I you know I'm probably the not the one
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I really feel those I feel like the long
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winters uh record holds its own in that
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competition yeah but one of them was all
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anybody could talk about and the other
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one was not
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talked about the last trip but on here
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all covered by all music guide yeah paul
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music i did a nice guy was hard on the
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first one right they were yeah they
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didn't undertake no on it and and they
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were wrong you know but uh but you know
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a review like that goes out and it just
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hangs there for years he Travis Morrison
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yeah that's right
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um have you I realize in spring this on
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you late and I I'm thinking we should
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make this homework for the next episode
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have you had an opportunity to listen to
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the remix of Sergeant Pepper yet no I
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would like to if you don't have it I
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the stereo remix or a mono well that
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part is that part of the story George
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lot of trouble with his hearing and he
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brought in his son who has done lots of
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production stuff to be as he says his
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ears and they work together on love a
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long story short um uh shoot what's his
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name a Clive was George Martin's son's
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name I'm totally spaced um but a son
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marnik matches insider woods Wow you
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know what they did they went in Janet
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they camels upon Martin bucket uh they
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went in and they got they got I guess
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they got the source tracks that became
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this is the pre bounced down what tracks
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I forget those alone I don't know cuz I
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can't believe no one ever thought to do
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this before now take all the original
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stuff no there's this what yeah what
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come on they got all of that stuff you
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trying to kid well no come on
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yeah and then they they remixed it with
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the idea of saying here's the problem
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you take something like a day in the
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life the the drum sounds at the
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beginning
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dan like don't bump bump like the mono
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version everything that blah blah blah
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good research beetles nerds preferences
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on stereo vs. mono the true story is
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that for most of the Beals career they
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were heavily involved with George Martin
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in the production of the mono but like
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increasingly they would go like man you
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just go do something for the stereo so
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they could be actually kind of different
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versions with different parts you hear
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different things and a lot of times the
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stereo was really just ring goes over
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here on the right Ringo Impala over here
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nobody else is over here is pretty
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simple and and there's for a long time
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but understanding that like boy you know
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essentially what they did was they said
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we want to make a 3d stereo sounding mix
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that's got the propulsion and fullness
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of the mono version and you're going to
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hear low-end like you have never heard
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before I don't wanna spoil it for you I
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would just I would like if you would
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please to consider and we will put this
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in the budget for the show so here's
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what you get you're gonna get you're
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gonna get this you're gonna get the new
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remixed Sergeant Pepper but that's not
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all but that's not all if you buy two
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and pay a separate fee huh you um it
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also includes whatever take they used of
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the base track unadorned hmm so you know
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you're gonna hear what it sounded like
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and you nerds have been able to get
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these in the various trucks and back
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corners for a while but I think that a
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lot of time on YouTube listening to this
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stuff if I can what I got I mean I went
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pretty deep into the like oh the MS FL
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AB it's kind of revolver and all these
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different versions and I had all the
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stereo in all the mono I'm just saying
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like once you sat down I on Saturday I
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listened to Sergeant Pepper probably for
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the first time my life I listened to
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Sergeant Pepper three times in one day
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can VIN I listen to the bass tracks and
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it's a new album and I'm gonna leave it
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at that would you consider doing this
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for homework yeah I will do this I'll do
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and then we'll come back next week and
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amongst our other topics we will talk
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about the 1967 album sergeant pepper's
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Lonely Hearts Club Band all right
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can't wait can't wait to can't wait to
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to dig into this because as you know I
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like the Beatles yeah me too
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I think I'm ready to reappraise this it
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sounds like The White Album in a good
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way if you think Liam tracks just
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floating around for the other albums
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good question the thing is it's sort of
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like John Syracuse's position on the New
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START Star Wars uh you know the updated
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editions
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it's like Empire Strikes Back is
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actually not very marred whereas the
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first Star Wars movie is just massacred
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I'm guessing that's what it's like I bet
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you know revolver sounds pretty great
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yeah but if they exist I will kick start
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the shit out of that get in there and do
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this for every one of these albums oh my
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god what is his name it feel terrible
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now but you want George Martin to be at
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the helm the day that George Martin
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isn't helming the thing then it just
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becomes Lyle's Martin and he's so
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specifically though yes he's going to
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keep in mind what his father would do
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but even more importantly he's going to
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ask the two living beatles and going to
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try to infer what the other Beatles
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would want its retrying to do it in the
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spirit of what they would want to deal
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with this ask the living Beatle ask the
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living Beatles I just wish that I wish
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that Paul was more trustworthy you you
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have not directly super directly
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addressed this you have some credibility
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issues with Paul McCartney
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sir sir sir mr. Lord Paul McCartney yes
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and will you you parse you parse hard on
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Anna McCartney quote I just yeah I just
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I'm just I'm hoping that Paul just
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hoping that Paul does the right thing
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here Paula at this point is probably
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overwritten a lot of the original tape
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in his mind that's what I'm worried
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about he might have done he might have
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done too many punches and like there's
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just stuff that he remembers a version
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of it that he started telling slightly
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differently in 1972 and he's kind of
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operating off of that broken bit of tape
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yeah I'm just I'm just afraid that it's
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you know I mean what was his thing where
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he was like I don't see what's not cool
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McCartney linen Oh Lucy knew for the
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Bob's your uncle
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please I know and actually the credits
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that has been that has been corrected
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what it's now McCartney Lennon some-some
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that basically a credit has
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a portion based on contribution and I'm
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trying to remember I don't have the hard
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copy I've got the streaming version on
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Apple music but yeah yes Moseley is
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actually good for Giles Martin good
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Giles Giles you know it's good for Giles
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everybody's got to earn a living
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mmm-hmm that's what they say yeah John's
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Martin's 47 there's a 47 year old guy
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producing Beatles albums now mr. presser
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that's it the junker than you write just
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barely just barely yeah so I let them
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pick me
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