Roderick on the Line

Ep. 246: "Night Burrito"


00:00:04   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07   hi Merlin has gone super good sir Lee [TS]

00:00:13   oh nice just barely had time to splash [TS]

00:00:19   some water on my face and eat half of a [TS]

00:00:22   cold sausage hmm it's kind of Dickensian [TS]

00:00:26   hmm please sir they have some more cold [TS]

00:00:31   sausage hmm careful what you ask for [TS]

00:00:35   with the Jew Fagin okay here's a [TS]

00:00:41   question for you yes this is probably [TS]

00:00:43   actually a question for Don Schaffner no [TS]

00:00:46   I'm happy to speculate how long can you [TS]

00:00:52   leave up like a pan of cold grease on [TS]

00:00:56   the stove before the grease goes bad [TS]

00:01:00   before it gets rancid [TS]

00:01:03   strictly speaking as always it won't [TS]

00:01:06   thinking there's two angles here one [TS]

00:01:08   angle is that like you made some lamb or [TS]

00:01:12   something okay well how many days is it [TS]

00:01:15   before you really want to be careful [TS]

00:01:16   that you don't put your spoon in there [TS]

00:01:18   and accidentally lick it well I don't [TS]

00:01:20   think it's I don't think it's gonna go [TS]

00:01:22   bad in the sense of it was hazardous [TS]

00:01:25   like you wouldn't want to like pour that [TS]

00:01:27   into a coffee cup and then like you know [TS]

00:01:28   drink out of it I'm not sure that [TS]

00:01:30   hazardous is the is the standard I think [TS]

00:01:33   it is more it's more taste whether it [TS]

00:01:35   becomes because you know butter sits out [TS]

00:01:38   it never did it's not gonna get where's [TS]

00:01:40   my part - my part - was that like I'm [TS]

00:01:43   used grease I'll reuse I'll reuse some [TS]

00:01:45   grease all uh si I've recently moved to [TS]

00:01:48   lard and as when I use the hell out of [TS]

00:01:50   some grease yeah exactly I think that [TS]

00:01:51   used to be like a tradition and we used [TS]

00:01:53   to keep it I remember in the later parts [TS]

00:01:55   of my youth we kept um we would pour [TS]

00:01:58   bacon grease into a coffee can Moses so [TS]

00:02:01   we could throw it out but I think I [TS]

00:02:02   suspect that had its origins in we're [TS]

00:02:04   gonna put this in here and then reuse it [TS]

00:02:05   oh yeah for real [TS]

00:02:07   what was so yeah they my mom always had [TS]

00:02:12   didn't just throw perfectly good grease [TS]

00:02:14   away my good pal Bob wood up in Alaska [TS]

00:02:20   easy down the mo with the mom [TS]

00:02:22   Bob had the mom she lifted a bookcase [TS]

00:02:26   this may be our and drank laps on sushi [TS]

00:02:29   T yep that's right that's Bob's mom got [TS]

00:02:32   your cut I love MA here so good bye good [TS]

00:02:36   yeah yeah [TS]

00:02:38   Oh Bob wood used to keep you know he had [TS]

00:02:41   a big he had like a like a 10 gauge or a [TS]

00:02:44   12 gauge cast-iron pan that he left on [TS]

00:02:47   the stove at all times and it always had [TS]

00:02:50   an inch of grease in it serve you know [TS]

00:02:52   maybe not an inch but like a blue cover [TS]

00:02:55   the bottom though no no thicker than [TS]

00:02:57   that yeah you know it was like a it was [TS]

00:02:59   let's say between a centimeter and a [TS]

00:03:01   half an inch of of bacon grease was [TS]

00:03:05   always sir coagulated in this pan and [TS]

00:03:07   when when he would because he you know [TS]

00:03:09   all these guys up in Alaska they're all [TS]

00:03:10   fishermen he would get some five pounds [TS]

00:03:15   of halibut cheeks or something some guy [TS]

00:03:16   would come into town and he'd be like [TS]

00:03:18   hey Bob I'll trade you five pounds of [TS]

00:03:20   halibut cheeks for two gold pans and a [TS]

00:03:21   pickaxe and so that's why I was [TS]

00:03:26   interested in the community yeah yeah [TS]

00:03:28   Bob would have all this fish all of a [TS]

00:03:31   sudden and so he'd throw the halibut [TS]

00:03:33   cheeks in the in the bacon grease and [TS]

00:03:38   cook em right he wouldn't just throw [TS]

00:03:40   them in there and leave him there for [TS]

00:03:41   the afternoon he heated up snot [TS]

00:03:43   coronating them no he's cooking them and [TS]

00:03:47   they were the bet you know that's the [TS]

00:03:49   best way to cook fish of course is [TS]

00:03:51   flash-fried and some hot bacon grease [TS]

00:03:52   and then he would turn the the studied [TS]

00:03:55   turn the the gas off and then the grease [TS]

00:03:58   would just stay there he would pluck the [TS]

00:04:00   fish out it's not like you ever the [TS]

00:04:02   grease was just there and so I never I [TS]

00:04:06   wasn't living with Bob I never said like [TS]

00:04:08   how often do you turn this grease around [TS]

00:04:12   but then I thought about it and a lot of [TS]

00:04:14   people in Alaska had a pan of grease on [TS]

00:04:16   the stove so anyway I've been adopting [TS]

00:04:19   this lately and but I just I need some [TS]

00:04:23   guidelines [TS]

00:04:24   because I don't want to be making some [TS]

00:04:26   classic mistake I don't want it to be [TS]

00:04:27   one of those situations like you know [TS]

00:04:29   when I used to drink heavily [TS]

00:04:31   I'd go out drinking every night and some [TS]

00:04:35   friend of mine would always come with me [TS]

00:04:36   and I just assumed that all my friends [TS]

00:04:40   drank every night when in fact they just [TS]

00:04:42   really they got super fucked up one [TS]

00:04:44   night a week with me oh you were there [TS]

00:04:48   weekend but I was I said right I was [TS]

00:04:51   there weekend but I was doing it seven [TS]

00:04:52   nights a week mm-hmm you but I would um [TS]

00:04:55   pray at this point I was pro and I but I [TS]

00:04:57   was confused because there was always [TS]

00:04:59   somebody with me and I figured everybody [TS]

00:05:00   was doing it [TS]

00:05:01   but now they all had jobs and I don't [TS]

00:05:04   want it to be one of those situations [TS]

00:05:05   where as soon as I leave they dump the [TS]

00:05:09   grease out but and then I come back and [TS]

00:05:12   there's a new pot of grease because they [TS]

00:05:14   made bacon that morning I understand I'm [TS]

00:05:15   thinking oh shit there's they're just [TS]

00:05:17   leaving this grease around for for weeks [TS]

00:05:19   and months and you and one of your [TS]

00:05:20   despite any other side effects of your [TS]

00:05:22   profession you I believe you said you [TS]

00:05:25   never you weren't much of a blackout guy [TS]

00:05:27   like you would still remember lots of [TS]

00:05:29   things about what happened Oh me as a [TS]

00:05:31   yeah no no I never blacked out that's [TS]

00:05:33   why I'm mentioning again because that's [TS]

00:05:34   that's quite a performance [TS]

00:05:35   characteristic that's that's very [TS]

00:05:36   unusual [TS]

00:05:37   I didn't blackout and I hardly ever [TS]

00:05:39   vomited I've just when rare occasions [TS]

00:05:42   would would vomit but even in those [TS]

00:05:44   situations I would usually sort of [TS]

00:05:46   excuse myself from the table go outside [TS]

00:05:51   vomit like like a rhinoceros would vomit [TS]

00:05:58   like standing up beer still in hand and [TS]

00:06:03   then go back in and sit back down at the [TS]

00:06:06   table and say like where were we [TS]

00:06:09   it was a great advantage it was a great [TS]

00:06:12   advantage if that had been a competitive [TS]

00:06:14   sport you know what I mean like there [TS]

00:06:15   are people that can run I'm a great [TS]

00:06:17   vomiter four-minute mile I'm a really [TS]

00:06:19   gifted vomiter is that right yeah I [TS]

00:06:21   don't get to use it as much as I would [TS]

00:06:22   like uh it's I don't know what it is [TS]

00:06:24   because it's funny it's one of those [TS]

00:06:25   things where uh you know when you're a [TS]

00:06:27   kid like obviously to me hypodermic [TS]

00:06:29   needles were the height of fear [TS]

00:06:30   hypodermic needles and corporal [TS]

00:06:31   punishment were the two things I'm most [TS]

00:06:32   feared I never got the second and I only [TS]

00:06:35   very occasionally got the first but it [TS]

00:06:36   was like a guiding principle [TS]

00:06:37   my life is I don't want to be hurt yet [TS]

00:06:39   but but you know a far third was [TS]

00:06:41   probably I didn't want to vomit I little [TS]

00:06:43   kids don't like to vomit no no at some [TS]

00:06:46   point and it wasn't even a drinking [TS]

00:06:47   thing I just at some point I just got [TS]

00:06:49   really good at vomiting I like I want to [TS]

00:06:52   let God I just accepted it and I just [TS]

00:06:54   said this is a thing we're gonna do it [TS]

00:06:55   I've said this to you before I believe [TS]

00:06:57   but I think one problem is that people [TS]

00:06:58   don't like nausea but the nausea just [TS]

00:07:01   makes them more anxious about vomiting [TS]

00:07:02   when really want to just get it over [TS]

00:07:03   with [TS]

00:07:03   that's what a pro does uh I should have [TS]

00:07:06   taken that advice a couple of weeks ago [TS]

00:07:08   I had him I went out got a burrito in [TS]

00:07:12   Portland Oregon at two o'clock in the [TS]

00:07:13   morning and night greet him a night [TS]

00:07:17   burrito and it was you know it was a [TS]

00:07:19   perfectly respectable place in Portland [TS]

00:07:21   that I'd been before but it's a you know [TS]

00:07:25   it's a shabby late night burrito but I [TS]

00:07:28   got the one that you know I did what I [TS]

00:07:31   do right I ordered a little bit off menu [TS]

00:07:33   and even as I was eating it I was like [TS]

00:07:36   this is the wrong choice not not not [TS]

00:07:39   because there was anything fishy about [TS]

00:07:41   the burrito but it was just like this is [TS]

00:07:42   the wrong choice you don't need to eat [TS]

00:07:43   this burrito at 2:00 in the morning but [TS]

00:07:45   you know it's we're party and I'm [TS]

00:07:47   showing off look what I can do listen [TS]

00:07:50   it's not like you everybody Subway [TS]

00:07:52   sandwiches over soon you gonna finish [TS]

00:07:56   that no I'm not going to finish that [TS]

00:08:00   we're standing over it super high I took [TS]

00:08:06   the liberty of ordering one of each of [TS]

00:08:08   the Subway sandwiches you know they've [TS]

00:08:11   got 14 I ordered want to be I got a [TS]

00:08:13   flight of subways and I would say was [TS]

00:08:14   for the table but there's no table [TS]

00:08:16   because we're sitting over sewer we're [TS]

00:08:17   standing on a sewer that's hearing me [TS]

00:08:19   Jonathan Coulton pollen storm probably [TS]

00:08:22   uh no drew drew drew his armies yeah I [TS]

00:08:28   don't think I'm not sure pollen storm [TS]

00:08:30   you know usually those guys storm likes [TS]

00:08:32   to stay out late Paul likes to get home [TS]

00:08:34   back to the hotel he's got things to [TS]

00:08:36   take care of he does he's got anybody [TS]

00:08:39   else Drive he wants to Skype home anyway [TS]

00:08:43   so then the next day I had nausea oh no [TS]

00:08:45   from your night three toe and all day [TS]

00:08:48   long I [TS]

00:08:49   the nausea oh I drove back from Portland [TS]

00:08:54   to Seattle the entire way just like [TS]

00:08:57   speeds are sweat just dripping down the [TS]

00:09:00   sides of my face just like I am I am [TS]

00:09:03   gonna you know because I have a very [TS]

00:09:05   good Constitution in the sense that I [TS]

00:09:07   can eat poisonous food and survive it's [TS]

00:09:10   like The Princess Bride you've been [TS]

00:09:11   practicing your whole life our whole [TS]

00:09:13   life right now is Ida Kane like even [TS]

00:09:15   you've been taking little bits so that [TS]

00:09:17   you go up against you know the Sicilian [TS]

00:09:19   when death is on the line that's right I [TS]

00:09:20   have I have inured myself to Ida Cain [TS]

00:09:23   and also to ecoli and also to whatever [TS]

00:09:26   else we can I can eat I can eat almost [TS]

00:09:32   anything and I said you know this [TS]

00:09:34   burrito is not gonna get the better of [TS]

00:09:35   me [TS]

00:09:36   so all day I'm just oh I've just feel [TS]

00:09:39   awful sweat and just blue green around [TS]

00:09:42   the gills and by the time I get to my [TS]

00:09:46   house I'm really incapacitated by food [TS]

00:09:49   poisoning and not acknowledging it and I [TS]

00:09:54   get into the house and I'm just I have [TS]

00:09:55   this I guess I I thought of you [TS]

00:09:58   what would Marilyn do mmm WWF MD mmm PE [TS]

00:10:04   well Marcus Welby MD let's pull it and [TS]

00:10:09   uh and so I went into the bathroom and [TS]

00:10:12   then boy hmm did I did I let fly and and [TS]

00:10:16   you know I felt uh I felt better I felt [TS]

00:10:20   no longer that feeling of nausea that's [TS]

00:10:22   come on it can be a kind of relief cuz [TS]

00:10:23   you like alright it's finally happening [TS]

00:10:24   it was except that I think by incubating [TS]

00:10:28   the food poisoning for an entire day but [TS]

00:10:30   you know like by will I could have [TS]

00:10:32   thrown up at 9:00 in the morning you [TS]

00:10:34   know by spending all day really really [TS]

00:10:37   really integrating it into my whole [TS]

00:10:38   corpus well the things when you when [TS]

00:10:40   you're sick whether you this goes for [TS]

00:10:42   downstairs basement situations too or [TS]

00:10:44   upstairs situations is that you are [TS]

00:10:47   you're there you're going to be there [TS]

00:10:50   for as long as this thing needs to do [TS]

00:10:53   what it's going to do there are no there [TS]

00:10:54   are really not any shortcuts that I'm [TS]

00:10:56   aware of because like even if you had [TS]

00:10:58   vomited at 9:00 a.m. that's no guarantee [TS]

00:11:00   you wouldn't still be vomiting all day [TS]

00:11:01   long you're [TS]

00:11:02   writing that initial vomit but it's [TS]

00:11:03   going to work its way through your [TS]

00:11:04   system one way or another and you just [TS]

00:11:07   have to decide in your case you decide [TS]

00:11:08   to fight it and drive sweaty but yeah [TS]

00:11:11   that's part of what makes it you're [TS]

00:11:12   really in its thrall you know you'll get [TS]

00:11:15   to post bail and get out of nausea well [TS]

00:11:17   and this is one of the things that I I'm [TS]

00:11:22   not a hundred percent certain if I [TS]

00:11:24   didn't make it a thousand times worse to [TS]

00:11:26   the incubating it incubated and then I [TS]

00:11:28   was sick for three days which is a lot [TS]

00:11:31   longer than you should be normally sick [TS]

00:11:34   on food poisoning right you should be [TS]

00:11:35   able to kick it in a day but I continued [TS]

00:11:38   to really struggle and I think it's [TS]

00:11:40   because you know rather than rather than [TS]

00:11:42   get this stuff out I let it get in there [TS]

00:11:44   and just you know set up housekeeping [TS]

00:11:46   and rent a trailer and you know those [TS]

00:11:50   guys were I'll cook up utilities and [TS]

00:11:52   basic cable yep yeah yep they have their [TS]

00:11:55   did their their dish yes yeah so uh I [TS]

00:12:00   should have just should have just taken [TS]

00:12:02   it take you know taking the axe to it [TS]

00:12:04   let me tell you if there's anything it's [TS]

00:12:07   dawn and Ben right from from doctor [TS]

00:12:09   doctors dawn and Ben there's anything [TS]

00:12:11   that I've learned it's made my life more [TS]

00:12:12   complicated it's it's food safety is it [TS]

00:12:16   turns out business there's all the [TS]

00:12:18   stutters I think you've been on their [TS]

00:12:19   program I've been this is what's called [TS]

00:12:21   food safety talk we both been on there I [TS]

00:12:23   really enjoyed it [TS]

00:12:24   uh the thing that I feel like I'm [TS]

00:12:27   learning from them is that like it's [TS]

00:12:28   sort of one of those everything you know [TS]

00:12:30   about food is wrong type situations [TS]

00:12:31   because the primary one being and I we [TS]

00:12:34   discussed this at length when I was on [TS]

00:12:35   their show and I think you might have [TS]

00:12:36   discussed this but there's that whole [TS]

00:12:37   idea this is this matrix of what makes [TS]

00:12:40   food safe in terms of how hot you cook [TS]

00:12:43   it how long you cook it and there's this [TS]

00:12:45   this amazing graphic that Ben showed me [TS]

00:12:48   of because I'm a sous vide guy right [TS]

00:12:50   that's the thing where you vacuum up [TS]

00:12:52   food and then you cook it in a warm bath [TS]

00:12:54   um that's very specific temperature and [TS]

00:12:57   you vacuum it up I'd pop for the vacuum [TS]

00:13:00   thing and it was really worth it you [TS]

00:13:01   could do in a ziplock bag too but the [TS]

00:13:02   basic idea when we first hear this this [TS]

00:13:04   sounds mental but you get this thing [TS]

00:13:06   looks like a lightsaber you stick it in [TS]

00:13:07   water and you say I went and get this [TS]

00:13:09   water - exactly [TS]

00:13:11   132 degrees now I've I've aged [TS]

00:13:15   dried and prepackaged really nice rib [TS]

00:13:18   eyes with time and the whole nine I've [TS]

00:13:20   got it in a little plastic bag I pulled [TS]

00:13:22   that out at you ready for this [TS]

00:13:23   brace yourself I pull this out of the [TS]

00:13:24   freezer you take that out of the freezer [TS]

00:13:26   you did not hear me wrong 132 degree [TS]

00:13:29   water you forgot it's not very hot I [TS]

00:13:32   mean most will tell you like usually for [TS]

00:13:34   like a this is fascinating steak talk [TS]

00:13:36   but a lot of times when you think of a [TS]

00:13:37   medium-rare and there's so many ways to [TS]

00:13:39   get a medium-rare wrong that's what I [TS]

00:13:41   want about one somewhere in the low one [TS]

00:13:42   40s usually like oh right yeah I think [TS]

00:13:44   it's not usually no hard like a 142 and [TS]

00:13:46   what do they tell you you're cooking [TS]

00:13:48   chicken you're cooking pork chops it's [TS]

00:13:49   got to be 160 because it's not 160 [TS]

00:13:52   you're gonna die with pork worms oh [TS]

00:13:54   isn't that what they tell you that's all [TS]

00:13:56   the time all the times I've had pork [TS]

00:13:58   worms okay let's go this is where you [TS]

00:14:01   get into the turns out though because [TS]

00:14:02   guess what I do I throw frozen meat in [TS]

00:14:05   plastic into a warm bath 132 degrees not [TS]

00:14:08   what your mutts I heard talk about [TS]

00:14:10   boiling a bag it's like about on a bag [TS]

00:14:12   but it's not boil its bag no boil it's a [TS]

00:14:15   delicious rib eye and then you know what [TS]

00:14:16   I do I tell my dingus I say remind me to [TS]

00:14:18   take out steaks in two hours so you [TS]

00:14:21   think I would have left the time off of [TS]

00:14:22   there first of all but but but assume [TS]

00:14:25   let's assume that you like the taste of [TS]

00:14:26   time oh you don't like see people have [TS]

00:14:29   strong feelings cilantro rosemary thyme [TS]

00:14:31   people have strong feelings I feel like [TS]

00:14:33   time is the stuff that that you smell [TS]

00:14:36   when you're walking through Joshua Tree [TS]

00:14:37   like when you're walking through the [TS]

00:14:39   desert somewhere and you're kicking up [TS]

00:14:41   brush yeah I she smell I don't want that [TS]

00:14:45   put on my steak okay I'll leave it off [TS]

00:14:46   yours all right so there's so much about [TS]

00:14:48   this that is bananas so first of all the [TS]

00:14:51   fact that you would have meat that 132 [TS]

00:14:52   degrees sounds crazy and the way that [TS]

00:14:55   you would cook a steak for two hours [TS]

00:14:57   sounds mental well that you would be [TS]

00:14:59   using the lightsaber at all in this [TS]

00:15:00   process my saber it's plugged in in the [TS]

00:15:02   water you're putting electric in the [TS]

00:15:03   water and then fort you put frozen meat [TS]

00:15:05   in but long story short probably too [TS]

00:15:07   late the thing is 132 for if you do it [TS]

00:15:11   long enough kills and please do your own [TS]

00:15:13   due diligence don't die from what you [TS]

00:15:15   hear on a podcast but the idea is that [TS]

00:15:16   you don't need to cook pork to 160 I [TS]

00:15:19   cook pork to 140 to come on and and the [TS]

00:15:23   thing is you do it long enough it kills [TS]

00:15:24   the pathogens and the thing is mainly [TS]

00:15:27   the longer you leave it in [TS]

00:15:28   more it becomes it's sort of like when [TS]

00:15:31   you um smoke or slow cook pork over a [TS]

00:15:35   long time it gets kind of you get that [TS]

00:15:36   kind of pulled pork sort of thing so if [TS]

00:15:38   you put your ribeye in there you could [TS]

00:15:39   put it in there for 24 hours you could [TS]

00:15:41   put a rib roast in there but if people [TS]

00:15:42   to steak in for 24 hours it would still [TS]

00:15:44   be medium-rare it would just be kind of [TS]

00:15:46   mealy and that the physics of that which [TS]

00:15:49   I don't begin to understand but it has [TS]

00:15:51   been explained to me and I still don't [TS]

00:15:52   understand it [TS]

00:15:53   all I know is that knee of two years ago [TS]

00:15:55   the idea of taking frozen steak and [TS]

00:15:57   throwing it into a bathtub 132 degrees [TS]

00:16:00   for two hours is the crazy idea in a bag [TS]

00:16:03   yeah but it but it does works but this [TS]

00:16:05   is where you get into the turns outs and [TS]

00:16:06   this is where we get into your grease [TS]

00:16:07   specifically yeah I'll bet you there's [TS]

00:16:10   it turns out - how long to keep the [TS]

00:16:11   grease if I have my druthers it would be [TS]

00:16:13   like McDonald's I would just have grease [TS]

00:16:14   sitting around like Bob all the time you [TS]

00:16:16   know good to go hmm let me get back to [TS]

00:16:19   the steak in a bag thing it does not [TS]

00:16:21   sound like you would have a very [TS]

00:16:22   appetizing outside it does not yeah so [TS]

00:16:26   that's where you go to the next level [TS]

00:16:27   yeah so as you know we basically live in [TS]

00:16:30   a hovel built in the 20s but we do have [TS]

00:16:33   arranged a little describe it as a [TS]

00:16:34   hobble but yeah I like our house um you [TS]

00:16:37   uh so what you do is you take it out you [TS]

00:16:39   dry it thoroughly at this point you [TS]

00:16:41   don't really have to let it set up you [TS]

00:16:43   talk about Pat it dry with some towel I [TS]

00:16:45   do some paper towels on either side and [TS]

00:16:46   then you it you get the oil of your [TS]

00:16:49   choice the lubricant of your choice you [TS]

00:16:51   might call it let's call it bacon grease [TS]

00:16:53   and a pan for me it's lard okay I've [TS]

00:16:56   gone down on lard where do you buy lard [TS]

00:16:59   a local grocery store made by the I [TS]

00:17:02   think made by the armored company Oh [TS]

00:17:04   all right Beast can you see this large [TS]

00:17:06   okay this can be show notes you see this [TS]

00:17:09   lard and you're gonna oh yeah that lard [TS]

00:17:11   I'm gonna talk about no vegetable stuff [TS]

00:17:13   ain't talking about no Crisco I'm [TS]

00:17:15   talking about Mountain tikka [TS]

00:17:16   I'm talking to get armored lard and your [TS]

00:17:19   edits are more right arm is on the wall [TS]

00:17:22   it's from the from the French yeah [TS]

00:17:24   remember when they have a website [TS]

00:17:25   discover the lard of difference hmm this [TS]

00:17:29   is that a pun [TS]

00:17:31   discover the lard of difference discover [TS]

00:17:34   the lard difference Oh [TS]

00:17:36   the lard difference back to basics being [TS]

00:17:38   a trusted family tradition to your kit [TS]

00:17:40   this is the lard [TS]

00:17:44   from the stone and ye shall be King of [TS]

00:17:47   England you can have to save versus the [TS]

00:17:49   lot of difference um but uh well I'm [TS]

00:17:54   really fascinated by this nice essential [TS]

00:17:55   link oh no on the armor site maanteeeca [TS]

00:18:00   maanteeeca in espanol and I'm just real [TS]

00:18:02   quick real quick side road I don't want [TS]

00:18:04   to derail our conversation that's so on [TS]

00:18:06   track but this started for me when I got [TS]

00:18:07   I got a blue apron and the blue apron [TS]

00:18:10   was to make some kind of like a [TS]

00:18:12   delicious Mexican dish with carnitas and [TS]

00:18:16   it comes with the tiny little you know [TS]

00:18:18   like if you get like if you make [TS]

00:18:19   cinnamon rolls at home and you get the [TS]

00:18:22   jizz and a little package like they give [TS]

00:18:24   you a little jizz sized package of lard [TS]

00:18:26   to cook the carnitas with and I was like [TS]

00:18:28   lard that's not very healthy man I did [TS]

00:18:31   it and it was fantastic it browned up [TS]

00:18:32   really well in the pan and that's why I [TS]

00:18:34   use it for the stick so you Pat your [TS]

00:18:36   steaks well I'm going right here to if [TS]

00:18:38   on the armor site yes one of the top one [TS]

00:18:42   of the top navigation bars is why lard [TS]

00:18:45   my lard question mark you get down you [TS]

00:18:47   get in there discover the lard [TS]

00:18:48   difference it's better for you it has [TS]

00:18:51   better taste and better results lard is [TS]

00:18:53   better it seems so obvious now pure [TS]

00:18:56   natural goodness that's why your [TS]

00:18:57   grandmother's grandmother trusted lard [TS]

00:19:00   oh they're dropping some science on us [TS]

00:19:04   bring out the big guns of grandmas [TS]

00:19:06   Lauren not not because your [TS]

00:19:08   grandmother's grandmother didn't have [TS]

00:19:09   anything but lard it's because he knew [TS]

00:19:12   it was pure natural because about the [TS]

00:19:14   lard difference yeah the lard difference [TS]

00:19:16   so you patted it dry yeah now you don't [TS]

00:19:20   want us to get too hot but I will I will [TS]

00:19:22   go to a medium setting which is still [TS]

00:19:24   pretty hot especially if you're cooking [TS]

00:19:26   with maanteeeca [TS]

00:19:26   and so so you got your sticks it's it's [TS]

00:19:29   the heated up your oil of choice your [TS]

00:19:31   lubricant of choice and then you gently [TS]

00:19:32   put it in there now here's what I do [TS]

00:19:34   here's a life hack I have an old a [TS]

00:19:36   cast-iron pan that you know got kind of [TS]

00:19:39   janky but I keep it around as a pressing [TS]

00:19:42   pan look I put I put I put a stake with [TS]

00:19:46   the with them on take off the lard into [TS]

00:19:48   the new lodge cast-iron pan I use the [TS]

00:19:52   Old Lodge cast-iron man I put on top [TS]

00:19:53   like a brick like you'd make a chicken [TS]

00:19:55   a brick I press it down you sit under [TS]

00:19:58   when you had chicken under brick this [TS]

00:20:01   show is going off the rails no no no [TS]

00:20:03   people I I happen to know from feedback [TS]

00:20:05   the people love when we talk about food [TS]

00:20:07   and recipes that is that something gets [TS]

00:20:09   under the grandmother's grandmother [TS]

00:20:11   taught you checking under names like the [TS]

00:20:14   chicken difference and then see it [TS]

00:20:17   within like let in less than two minutes [TS]

00:20:18   you get a great sear that does not [TS]

00:20:20   overly medium a fie the right next to [TS]

00:20:23   the delicious medium-rare nests oh [TS]

00:20:24   that's the other thing with this cooking [TS]

00:20:25   in the sous-vide is it is uniform every [TS]

00:20:27   single cubic millimeter of that steak is [TS]

00:20:30   exactly the same doneness [TS]

00:20:31   but then you sear it at the end you want [TS]

00:20:33   a little bit extra kosher salt or what [TS]

00:20:34   would have you you can use butter you [TS]

00:20:36   can use whatever you want steak and [TS]

00:20:37   butter pretty good and you've got [TS]

00:20:38   yourself now at this point I will drop [TS]

00:20:40   that into some aluminium foil I'll fold [TS]

00:20:43   it up and I'll let it set up a little [TS]

00:20:44   bit I'll finish the sides because as you [TS]

00:20:46   know I like all my food to be hot and [TS]

00:20:48   finish at exactly the same moment cotton [TS]

00:20:50   finish got the Merlin man different [TS]

00:20:52   Dustin bulbous so then that's that's all [TS]

00:20:54   time that's right the mascara snake uh [TS]

00:20:58   okay we might be a little off the rails [TS]

00:21:00   and I still gotta talk to you about the [TS]

00:21:02   beetles and I still talk to you about [TS]

00:21:03   parking so we have a lot to talk about [TS]

00:21:05   today this can be a very little the [TS]

00:21:07   thing is there's a lot of new beetles [TS]

00:21:08   news which we can't always say no it's [TS]

00:21:11   such a you know a week for the beetles [TS]

00:21:13   but you have to be awesome [TS]

00:21:15   okay uh I say something me okay good you [TS]

00:21:19   fussed out a minute but you're back yeah [TS]

00:21:20   you fuzz doubt - oh no no I exciting [TS]

00:21:24   gonnigan hacks we gotta act you think [TS]

00:21:27   it's the Russian hackers it's ransom [TS]

00:21:29   where are they taking our our social [TS]

00:21:32   security number Nana Ford I'm gonna use [TS]

00:21:36   domain tools to get to the bottom of [TS]

00:21:38   this oh I'm in I cracked the encryption [TS]

00:21:41   there's green letters on my screen or in [TS]

00:21:44   hmm so that's how you make a stake and [TS]

00:21:48   so here's the thing though I think we [TS]

00:21:49   should probably reach out to friends at [TS]

00:21:52   the show doctors dawn and Ben and ask [TS]

00:21:54   them for their opinion and now do we [TS]

00:21:56   want to pose this in a specific way is [TS]

00:21:57   it a question of how long how long is it [TS]

00:21:59   safe for me to leave bacon grease in the [TS]

00:22:01   pan and how long is it safe for me to [TS]

00:22:03   reuse it is that kind of the question [TS]

00:22:05   well but I think I think that my [TS]

00:22:07   suspicion is that the word [TS]

00:22:09   that the word we're looking for is not [TS]

00:22:10   safe because I think the darts are moves [TS]

00:22:13   like is it proper yeah or yeah basically [TS]

00:22:16   sound it's gonna be one of those things [TS]

00:22:19   that they you know the my experience of [TS]

00:22:21   talking to those guys about food safety [TS]

00:22:22   was pretty much first of all every time [TS]

00:22:25   I said is it safe to eat this one of [TS]

00:22:27   them would say yeah [TS]

00:22:28   yes and the other would go mmm no hmm [TS]

00:22:31   and it kept flip-flopping between the [TS]

00:22:33   two of them and the lesson the ultimate [TS]

00:22:36   lesson was in every situation you have [TS]

00:22:39   to make a judgment call it's not one vet [TS]

00:22:42   that's the thing is turns out there's [TS]

00:22:43   not one vector to this right is it safe [TS]

00:22:46   for me to eat is it safe for me to eat [TS]

00:22:49   right now do I choose to take the risk [TS]

00:22:53   of eating this because what they said [TS]

00:22:55   was everything you put in your mouth so [TS]

00:22:56   there's some risk like you know somebody [TS]

00:22:59   could have pooped on your popsicle sale [TS]

00:23:01   okay is it safe this thing's been frozen [TS]

00:23:03   for a month is it safe to eat the easy [TS]

00:23:05   answer is yes but the huge asterisk is [TS]

00:23:07   well what happened to it before it was [TS]

00:23:09   frozen mmm right [TS]

00:23:10   right what if somebody put that chicken [TS]

00:23:12   under a brick if so I put these open [TS]

00:23:14   under a brick might be half a cock in [TS]

00:23:15   there you don't know you don't you don't [TS]

00:23:17   want to be putting that in your mouth [TS]

00:23:18   just because somebody said see this is [TS]

00:23:20   the this is this is the problem with the [TS]

00:23:22   internet so I don't know a lot of time a [TS]

00:23:25   lot of times when I have a piece of food [TS]

00:23:27   that I have left out too long and I [TS]

00:23:29   think this food is now into this range [TS]

00:23:32   of like is this been sitting out too [TS]

00:23:33   long I'll put it in the freezer and I [TS]

00:23:38   figure if I leave it in the freezer for [TS]

00:23:41   a month by taking your severed finger [TS]

00:23:44   and putting it in a box of band-aids put [TS]

00:23:47   in freezer for a month without a week [TS]

00:23:49   the freezer will do something I don't [TS]

00:23:51   know what and but what's the primary [TS]

00:23:54   thing the freezer will do is cause me to [TS]

00:23:55   forget that is out on the counter for [TS]

00:23:58   too long yes and it will make the choice [TS]

00:24:00   for me because when I find it in there [TS]

00:24:02   later I'm gonna be like oh I didn't know [TS]

00:24:04   this was in here right and then I'll [TS]

00:24:06   make it out and and it'll be trouble [TS]

00:24:08   free so you need to go ahead and make it [TS]

00:24:09   though because I forget I forget that I [TS]

00:24:12   put it in there because it had been [TS]

00:24:13   sitting out on the counter I don't I [TS]

00:24:15   know all along when I'm doing it's not [TS]

00:24:16   the way my wife basically when she saves [TS]

00:24:18   any tiny bit of food so he basically a [TS]

00:24:20   garbage plus a plastic bag [TS]

00:24:22   you know nobody's gonna eat that last [TS]

00:24:23   you know chicken leg or the wing or [TS]

00:24:25   whatever like the right of burnt wing [TS]

00:24:27   like why are we keeping this I don't [TS]

00:24:28   want to waste food we'll know you're [TS]

00:24:29   wasting food and a bag in that case it's [TS]

00:24:34   like just I just had a glimpse inside [TS]

00:24:36   your marriage it's so beautiful [TS]

00:24:38   I like so much about my marriage yeah [TS]

00:24:40   now you're wasting food and a bag but [TS]

00:24:43   loved I really am a joy to have around [TS]

00:24:45   Stella Sora breakfast treats wanna be [TS]

00:24:49   down there not on this thing like the [TS]

00:24:50   river boy stop what are you doing [TS]

00:25:01   breakfast yeah Stella d'Oro [TS]

00:25:03   we're doing somebody else's bit but like [TS]

00:25:06   this is still a thing I do like the [TS]

00:25:07   easily 5 to 60 times a day I walk by the [TS]

00:25:10   cat and she's just sitting there in the [TS]

00:25:12   hallway staring she's sitting on her [TS]

00:25:14   cushion by the heater cuz she's an old [TS]

00:25:15   frail lady I look her I go what are you [TS]

00:25:17   doing ha ha my family's to stop doing [TS]

00:25:20   that you're scaring her and the cat [TS]

00:25:21   looks me like what right Stella d'Oro [TS]

00:25:24   breakfast treats yeah no the cat knows [TS]

00:25:26   cat knows melador Oh breakfast chance [TS]

00:25:29   you know you know I would album so much [TS]

00:25:32   there's so much on that this we're [TS]

00:25:33   talking about feeling kind of Patton and [TS]

00:25:36   I well I think first comedy wall long [TS]

00:25:38   time ago there's much on there that is [TS]

00:25:41   not for sensitive ears uh but boy is [TS]

00:25:44   that funny yeah I there's a website that [TS]

00:25:48   I let me recommend it to you guys yeah [TS]

00:25:50   it's called folk streams dotnet folk ok [TS]

00:25:57   Volk streams net ok and it's a place [TS]

00:25:59   where all of the documentary films about [TS]

00:26:03   American roots cultures are archived oh [TS]

00:26:08   my gosh like an it's it's like a free [TS]

00:26:11   it's a net it's an it's a I feel like [TS]

00:26:13   I've been to this site National Preserve [TS]

00:26:16   of all these documentaries made in the [TS]

00:26:19   70s I think I think I watched a movie [TS]

00:26:21   here recently yeah it's just like [TS]

00:26:23   whatever happened to the paddlewheel [TS]

00:26:26   steamer well this is where this is where [TS]

00:26:29   I got a copy of talking feet solo [TS]

00:26:31   southern dance bucks my foot and tap and [TS]

00:26:34   because you know why this is [TS]

00:26:35   an important substrata of a very [TS]

00:26:37   important movie uh what's it called [TS]

00:26:40   dance and rebel yet with a guy with the [TS]

00:26:42   cost of sunglasses you ever seen that [TS]

00:26:43   movie oh gosh this is a terrific I'm [TS]

00:26:47   sorry I'm taking you off folks dreams [TS]

00:26:48   yeah talking feet I wish we had shown us [TS]

00:26:50   I would put it in go Google talking feet [TS]

00:26:52   solo southern dance buck flat foot and [TS]

00:26:54   tap and it's an amazing documentary I [TS]

00:26:56   think she came out in mid 80s but was [TS]

00:26:58   made in the early early 80s and it's [TS]

00:27:01   just documenting these very very old men [TS]

00:27:03   who do that southern like tap oh yeah [TS]

00:27:07   but like oh yeah well it's like let's [TS]

00:27:09   like locking it's not a group it's it's [TS]

00:27:11   a solo performance but these guys are [TS]

00:27:12   amazing and they just live out in the [TS]

00:27:14   sticks and they're incredible well I'm [TS]

00:27:16   sorry folks dreams net folks rooms done [TS]

00:27:18   that so if you want it like I'm just [TS]

00:27:20   scrolling down here it's like Edie Prez [TS]

00:27:22   Mel the dulcimer maker or ironworking [TS]

00:27:26   yeah finish Americans a 1982 portrait of [TS]

00:27:29   finish American culture in Upper [TS]

00:27:31   Michigan Florida shrimping traditional [TS]

00:27:35   man some change here's some Gandy [TS]

00:27:38   dancers more Gandy dancers Gandy dancers [TS]

00:27:42   are that uh you know they're like that [TS]

00:27:44   they're singing singing as they as they [TS]

00:27:46   as they build railroad tracks 1978 [TS]

00:27:49   documentary mermaids frog legs and [TS]

00:27:50   fillets it's about basically about hip [TS]

00:27:53   hop on the streets in 1978 yeah alright [TS]

00:27:57   so anyway so I am on here a lot and I [TS]

00:28:00   was watching a movie about the decaying [TS]

00:28:03   so this movie was made in about 1981 or [TS]

00:28:08   82 and it's a guy that's like there used [TS]

00:28:11   to be a lot of Irish in the Bronx but [TS]

00:28:15   the Irish are getting pushed out so I'm [TS]

00:28:18   gonna go around all the Irish par all [TS]

00:28:20   Irish bars and I'm gonna talk to all the [TS]

00:28:22   Irish guys what are you doing and so [TS]

00:28:27   walking over and watching this movie and [TS]

00:28:29   he's just it's it's you know the guy [TS]

00:28:31   like he rode his narrative out before [TS]

00:28:34   you know he doesn't boys over narration [TS]

00:28:36   and he's a real Irish poet so as his [TS]

00:28:39   narration is very colorful language in [TS]

00:28:42   his and but he goes to these bars in [TS]

00:28:43   this hall as you can imagine cops and [TS]

00:28:46   firemen and then a bunch of people from [TS]

00:28:48   the old country who [TS]

00:28:49   who've been living in the Bronx since [TS]

00:28:50   the 40s and I'm like this part of the [TS]

00:28:54   Bronx is not a part of New York that I [TS]

00:28:58   know mm-hmm and so I started looking up [TS]

00:29:00   to start looking into this part of the [TS]

00:29:02   Bronx and you know I bet like you've [TS]

00:29:05   been all around it but just sort of [TS]

00:29:07   didn't realize like oh I guess this was [TS]

00:29:08   the center of mean if you go to this [TS]

00:29:10   part of the Bronx arrggh [TS]

00:29:11   there's 400 Catholic churches all [TS]

00:29:14   involved you know within 10 blocks [TS]

00:29:17   anyway the Stella d'Oro Factory was [TS]

00:29:22   right there that's where they made him [TS]

00:29:24   no kidding and then just recently they [TS]

00:29:26   were purchased by you know by Armand or [TS]

00:29:30   by Armand Hammer or somebody buy buy a [TS]

00:29:35   big breakfast cookie yeah that's right [TS]

00:29:37   and then they then there they moved it [TS]

00:29:39   there moved their manufacturing to the [TS]

00:29:40   Alamo or something in that it's all it's [TS]

00:29:43   kind of the reverse it's like New York [TS]

00:29:46   City accepts reverse you watch so much [TS]

00:29:49   of the same TV like that I Texas New [TS]

00:29:52   York City get a rope it's my turn to [TS]

00:29:56   operate I'm the sole survivor so anyways [TS]

00:30:04   that you spend hours and hours on this [TS]

00:30:06   because it's it never gets here there's [TS]

00:30:09   Morgan Sexton the Bull Creek banjo [TS]

00:30:10   player of course [TS]

00:30:11   oh wow mouths music I highly recommend [TS]

00:30:14   this a boot camp count off-chance [TS]

00:30:17   jumprope rhymes and carny barks are [TS]

00:30:20   featured in this fast-moving sampler of [TS]

00:30:22   proto music wow that made me kind of [TS]

00:30:24   tingly right boot camp count off-chance [TS]

00:30:27   jumprope rhymes and card you can't count [TS]

00:30:29   off chance boot camp that's like camp [TS]

00:30:32   rat laughs had a good job at I left [TS]

00:30:35   right left [TS]

00:30:36   they call it attic cadence we used to do [TS]

00:30:38   those when I was in military school [TS]

00:30:40   c-130 on taxiway tear morphing she's [TS]

00:30:43   gonna jump today sound off 1 2 sound up [TS]

00:30:47   p4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 hmm we should start [TS]

00:30:56   our own paramilitary unit that let me [TS]

00:30:58   hear one of your let me hear one of your [TS]

00:31:00   count offs I don't know [TS]

00:31:01   until let's see I'm trying remember [TS]

00:31:03   confusing it with Full Metal Jacket but [TS]

00:31:05   I this is 1979 I was hearing these yeah [TS]

00:31:08   we had lots of body Cadence's and body [TS]

00:31:11   camp songs a lot of songs about vaginas [TS]

00:31:14   there was a lot of references to vaginas [TS]

00:31:16   even though none of us had ever seen [TS]

00:31:17   vaginas your time body like B aw aw [TS]

00:31:21   maudey but e body body body but where [TS]

00:31:26   are we um night burrito grease dawn and [TS]

00:31:30   bend gun we've gotten all the way to we [TS]

00:31:34   have two beetles and parking yet I think [TS]

00:31:36   so I think we got real real close to the [TS]

00:31:38   bueno we're here at we're mouth music [TS]

00:31:40   here's op lair the sled maker I can [TS]

00:31:42   leave this I see the problem is I [TS]

00:31:44   prepared a little bit for this because I [TS]

00:31:45   had an experience yesterday with parking [TS]

00:31:47   it's not nearly as interesting as [TS]

00:31:48   talking about the Beatles oh but I just [TS]

00:31:50   I feel like I had to tell you this you [TS]

00:31:52   don't usually take notes so let's hear [TS]

00:31:54   it [TS]

00:31:55   it's quick it's just yeah I don't want [TS]

00:31:57   take us off Beatles but I just want to [TS]

00:31:58   say like okay so yesterday as you record [TS]

00:32:00   this it was today's Memorial Day thank [TS]

00:32:02   you for your service yesterday was the [TS]

00:32:04   day before Memorial Day we went down to [TS]

00:32:05   Santa Cruz go to the beach boardwalk [TS]

00:32:07   we're gonna you know go on some rides [TS]

00:32:08   get ripped off by some games just have a [TS]

00:32:10   little little very short fun family day [TS]

00:32:13   and of course it's the day before [TS]

00:32:15   Memorial Day so the place is mobbed and [TS]

00:32:17   this place was never meant it's [TS]

00:32:19   basically like a small coastal [TS]

00:32:21   residential neighborhood where someone [TS]

00:32:23   built a boardwalk that now is like a [TS]

00:32:25   small theme park and it is not it is not [TS]

00:32:28   like arriving at Disney World like a [TS]

00:32:29   full teenage vampires - right yes [TS]

00:32:32   skateboarding vampires many of them [TS]

00:32:33   teens it's real sketchy it's got that [TS]

00:32:36   kind of like beach sketchy feeling [TS]

00:32:39   anyway long story short it's packed the [TS]

00:32:41   parking is it takes us you know 45 [TS]

00:32:43   minutes just to get from like from [TS]

00:32:44   somewhere to like finding parking [TS]

00:32:46   there's parking lots tiny parking lots [TS]

00:32:47   we finally find a parking space the Sun [TS]

00:32:49   is blaring down I don't know why I'm [TS]

00:32:51   telling you this except I think you'd [TS]

00:32:52   appreciate it we arrived there we park [TS]

00:32:53   oh god we got a space there's a meter [TS]

00:32:56   alright let's go run our card through [TS]

00:32:57   the meter because try put your card into [TS]

00:33:00   the meters at well up to a 12-hour [TS]

00:33:01   parking meter pretty great [TS]

00:33:03   try to get your card in card doesn't fit [TS]

00:33:05   this does not take credit cards okay [TS]

00:33:07   I'll take quarters well we're going to [TS]

00:33:09   put in four or five hours where the [TS]

00:33:10   quarters no nobody has that anymore [TS]

00:33:11   right [TS]

00:33:12   so we discover they say if you want pay [TS]

00:33:14   for this [TS]

00:33:14   so I look around every single one of the [TS]

00:33:16   meter says expired and zero zero on it [TS]

00:33:18   I'm like honey maybe they're just not [TS]

00:33:20   doing them today and she's like you want [TS]

00:33:21   to pay for a ticket and I said no I do [TS]

00:33:23   not want to pay for a ticket but I also [TS]

00:33:24   do not want to interact with an app [TS]

00:33:26   because guess what [TS]

00:33:27   to pay for the parking you need to get [TS]

00:33:30   an app Oh see that's how they have this [TS]

00:33:32   is how this is they get into hack you so [TS]

00:33:34   know what I'm telling you this so I see [TS]

00:33:36   there's a service called park mobile and [TS]

00:33:38   I want park mobile I don't want to die [TS]

00:33:41   once in a fire I want to survive and go [TS]

00:33:43   through painful recovery to go die in [TS]

00:33:45   another fire yep you've used park mobile [TS]

00:33:48   before no no oh you don't hate pad for [TS]

00:33:51   parking like an adult you put in a few [TS]

00:33:52   quarters if you're going to the comic [TS]

00:33:54   store or you use your credit card like [TS]

00:33:55   an adult you don't you went into this [TS]

00:33:59   just completely uh like you're just a [TS]

00:34:02   virgin to this totally to this and I and [TS]

00:34:05   I but you know and I'm you know how I am [TS]

00:34:07   right yeah okay so anyway there's a [TS]

00:34:11   service called Park mobile and then [TS]

00:34:13   their thing is it's parking made simple [TS]

00:34:14   okay what you do you're either gonna get [TS]

00:34:18   the app or you can call and set up an [TS]

00:34:20   account and I'm like and I'm my families [TS]

00:34:22   are I'm getting that Dessie to look in [TS]

00:34:24   their eyes cuz they say I'm going to a [TS]

00:34:25   certain place yeah you're telling me [TS]

00:34:27   that in order to park the car I've got [TS]

00:34:30   to get an app or microphone or you make [TS]

00:34:33   a phone call it really simple I'm [TS]

00:34:35   starting to get the app so you go to [TS]

00:34:36   their website their website points you [TS]

00:34:38   to the App Store you go to the App Store [TS]

00:34:39   you download the app you wait because [TS]

00:34:42   remember you're not on a wireless [TS]

00:34:43   connection you need an app to pay for [TS]

00:34:45   parking so you wait you wait you wait it [TS]

00:34:47   down let's okay alright alright how do I [TS]

00:34:48   pay for this that's a fast Johnny guess [TS]

00:34:50   what now you go go you got to create an [TS]

00:34:52   account [TS]

00:34:52   you gotta create a me so I say Madeline [TS]

00:34:54   would you please use your iPhone and [TS]

00:34:56   please call to set up an account while [TS]

00:34:57   I'm doing this cuz I'm going to Hulk out [TS]

00:34:59   in a minute so now you know me now I [TS]

00:35:02   don't just go type a bunch of letters I [TS]

00:35:04   go to my password app where I have to go [TS]

00:35:05   create a new login yeah with with the [TS]

00:35:08   secure password I gotta go copy that now [TS]

00:35:10   I go in I create a new account pretty [TS]

00:35:12   soon your garage door opener is going up [TS]

00:35:14   and down that's how they get you they [TS]

00:35:15   hack and hack it how they do so now I go [TS]

00:35:19   enter my new account information I put [TS]

00:35:20   in my email address I paste in my new [TS]

00:35:22   money work you're ready to go cut pay [TS]

00:35:24   for this now oh hang on a minute hang on [TS]

00:35:25   now you need to configure your account [TS]

00:35:28   know your license plate number oh sure [TS]

00:35:30   sure sure right still part of [TS]

00:35:32   configuring me very got a configure the [TS]

00:35:33   account cuz now they got a license plate [TS]

00:35:35   number you got to give it a name like a [TS]

00:35:36   memorable name for the car for all your [TS]

00:35:38   cars that you have you would give a [TS]

00:35:39   memorable name called Pookie [TS]

00:35:41   mine was fuck me gently and then there's [TS]

00:35:44   like the Elvis song and then C name it [TS]

00:35:46   well guess what now me Jackie [TS]

00:35:48   but never let me go is based on orally [TS]

00:35:55   so now okay this is like seriously 10 to [TS]

00:36:00   15 minutes okay fine whatever you know [TS]

00:36:02   week I have to pee so bad we didn't stop [TS]

00:36:05   we've been driving for two hours I've [TS]

00:36:07   been selling slammin seltzer the whole [TS]

00:36:08   time you didn't tell me this park Oh God [TS]

00:36:10   and I'm getting cross I didn't cross I'm [TS]

00:36:13   in the Sun I'm already burning off some [TS]

00:36:14   of my 100 SPF sunscreen that I've been [TS]

00:36:16   counting on take care of me all day I'm [TS]

00:36:18   you're starting up down my daughter is [TS]

00:36:20   just watching the roller coaster with [TS]

00:36:22   like tears in her eyes like why are we [TS]

00:36:23   still here configuring it out okay can I [TS]

00:36:26   do this no not yet you got one turn on [TS]

00:36:29   notification so we give notifications [TS]

00:36:31   about your parking okay yeah I guess [TS]

00:36:32   what guess what we need your payment [TS]

00:36:35   information cuz why the hell would we [TS]

00:36:36   put a credit card dingus into the [TS]

00:36:38   parking meter you need to enter it in [TS]

00:36:40   the app with the account you just put in [TS]

00:36:42   that's fine get two boys flash right you [TS]

00:36:45   sure [TS]

00:36:46   so guess what though you can take a [TS]

00:36:49   photo of your credit card feeling great [TS]

00:36:51   about this fine I enabled the camera I [TS]

00:36:53   set it on this steaming hot top of our [TS]

00:36:56   automobile I attempt to take a photo of [TS]

00:36:59   five times it doesn't get anything oh [TS]

00:37:01   that's fine let's just start over now I [TS]

00:37:02   go now I go into my password app I get [TS]

00:37:05   my credit card information now I gotta [TS]

00:37:06   go copy 1 Z 2 Z go copy and paste all of [TS]

00:37:08   that in am I done [TS]

00:37:09   no now you gotta enter what parking zone [TS]

00:37:11   you're in well tell you the parking zone [TS]

00:37:13   please oh you can shoot the QR code now [TS]

00:37:15   that you've enabled the camera on your [TS]

00:37:16   fucking phone to be able to pay for the [TS]

00:37:17   parking signal right I goddamn roller [TS]

00:37:19   coaster on a Sunday and I entered the [TS]

00:37:22   parking zone and it goes beauty Lord now [TS]

00:37:24   completing your parking you have up to [TS]

00:37:26   this time in the countdown you want us [TS]

00:37:28   to send you reminders no we have pretty [TS]

00:37:32   good time we had some fried food we I [TS]

00:37:34   went on I went on a roller coaster they [TS]

00:37:36   went on a sky ride it was all good then [TS]

00:37:37   we got back easy you close the session I [TS]

00:37:39   got four emails from all this got four [TS]

00:37:41   emails I'm getting benefit Asian welcome [TS]

00:37:43   so I could write this is so that I could [TS]

00:37:46   have my car be somewhere for a while [TS]

00:37:48   yeah give thought on this [TS]

00:37:50   am I being am I you know me in my peers [TS]

00:37:52   to me you're saying the machine had some [TS]

00:37:56   facility to take a card just not a [TS]

00:37:59   credit card yes what was the card it [TS]

00:38:01   could take I think I didn't think to [TS]

00:38:04   take a picture of the meter I think it [TS]

00:38:06   was probably the classic prepaid card [TS]

00:38:08   and and in a sensible move for once you [TS]

00:38:12   would not want that to be a size that [TS]

00:38:14   would accommodate a standard credit card [TS]

00:38:15   because that would be very confusing to [TS]

00:38:17   people right right so this was a thing [TS]

00:38:20   that if you were a Santa Cruz resident [TS]

00:38:21   you would get a little card that was [TS]

00:38:24   your parking we have that I mean we have [TS]

00:38:26   that for public transit in Union for [TS]

00:38:28   parking you buy like a throwaway $20 [TS]

00:38:29   card for to pay for parking [TS]

00:38:32   I just let's move on to the Beatles but [TS]

00:38:34   like yet you feel me on this i I I am so [TS]

00:38:38   I'm so filled with sympathetic rage um [TS]

00:38:42   you got a good nap you got a doubt you [TS]

00:38:45   got a go somewhere and what if you don't [TS]

00:38:46   have a smartphone what you don't have a [TS]

00:38:49   credit card you know what you would have [TS]

00:38:51   done you would have walked over to the [TS]

00:38:52   nearest bodega store $20 in quarters [TS]

00:38:55   I know you would have said what's the [TS]

00:38:56   deal with parking around here and they [TS]

00:38:58   would have said oh we sell the parking [TS]

00:38:59   cards 20 bucks see you're smart and you [TS]

00:39:02   would've gone we all know for next time [TS]

00:39:04   I think right but maybe not maybe the [TS]

00:39:07   guy at the counter would have said like [TS]

00:39:09   yeah get it out but I feel like this is [TS]

00:39:11   when I look around and I see every one [TS]

00:39:12   of these that says 0-0 and expired on it [TS]

00:39:15   and I'm thinking you but that's an [TS]

00:39:17   argument you're having with your wife [TS]

00:39:18   not with not with the meter you want to [TS]

00:39:19   get a ticket [TS]

00:39:20   I said yeah honey I want to get a ticket [TS]

00:39:22   that's why I'm sitting here configuring [TS]

00:39:24   a nap in the Sun so stuck him in a [TS]

00:39:26   sulking camu novel the problem is that [TS]

00:39:28   year that even Santa Cruz now is too [TS]

00:39:30   close to San Francisco to ever be a real [TS]

00:39:33   town again the cops they bring in the [TS]

00:39:35   apps and so I I just played this [TS]

00:39:39   festival right the long winters got back [TS]

00:39:40   together we played this upstream music [TS]

00:39:42   festival it's being put on by Paul [TS]

00:39:43   Allen's company Vulcan it's all a lovely [TS]

00:39:47   or organization and I know a lot of the [TS]

00:39:48   people there I actually am on the board [TS]

00:39:50   which apparently was not a conflict of [TS]

00:39:52   interest when they asked me to play [TS]

00:39:55   because they never gave any information [TS]

00:39:56   to the board or asked us to any [TS]

00:39:57   questions at all but when we got our [TS]

00:40:01   packets because when you're playing a [TS]

00:40:03   big festival like this right you get [TS]

00:40:05   packets sure you're gonna get a packet [TS]

00:40:07   I'll give you a packet and Sean Nelson [TS]

00:40:10   got his packet first and Sean has each [TS]

00:40:13   Sean has become somebody I guess who [TS]

00:40:16   does his due diligence there's any an [TS]

00:40:19   editor he is yes and make sure that [TS]

00:40:21   things are proper he does and so he on [TS]

00:40:25   behalf at own he also he lives in [TS]

00:40:27   Pioneer Square so on behalf of the band [TS]

00:40:29   he said I'm gonna go down and and figure [TS]

00:40:31   out what the deal is which is great if [TS]

00:40:34   you're playing a big festival and you [TS]

00:40:36   have somebody you know you have somebody [TS]

00:40:38   doing advanced listen in any situation [TS]

00:40:40   if you want to make yourself suddenly [TS]

00:40:42   very useful be the person who decides to [TS]

00:40:45   go and figure out what the deal is yeah [TS]

00:40:47   go find out was always a deal to be [TS]

00:40:48   figured out your your your recon right [TS]

00:40:51   your your your the your your Ranger you [TS]

00:40:54   could spend four hours guessing or 20 [TS]

00:40:56   minutes finding out what the dealio is [TS]

00:40:58   find out what the deal is so Sean comes [TS]

00:41:00   back this is all happening via text and [TS]

00:41:03   he said here's the thing you have to go [TS]

00:41:05   to the you have to go to the football [TS]

00:41:07   field to the to the box office there get [TS]

00:41:11   your packet and then you have to you [TS]

00:41:15   have a wristband but you have to [TS]

00:41:17   activate the wristband what it's as much [TS]

00:41:20   as a smart wristband and to activate the [TS]

00:41:22   wristband you have to get the app oh my [TS]

00:41:25   god and once you get the app then you [TS]

00:41:28   activate the wristband but there is a [TS]

00:41:30   full full typewritten page with a second [TS]

00:41:35   page of addenda of instructions about [TS]

00:41:39   how to activate the wristband and like [TS]

00:41:45   all this stuff like if you if you do [TS]

00:41:47   this wrong then you're you can't get [TS]

00:41:49   into the festival for the rest of the [TS]

00:41:51   day no evil I'm John now enjoy that's [TS]

00:41:53   right and just on and on and he's sean [TS]

00:41:55   is reading all these like rules and [TS]

00:41:57   regulations about the wristband and and [TS]

00:41:59   but he said since we're playing we have [TS]

00:42:02   two wristbands but the instructions are [TS]

00:42:06   saying do not [TS]

00:42:07   activate two wristbands if you activate [TS]

00:42:09   two wristbands its null and void you can [TS]

00:42:11   only activate one but it doesn't say [TS]

00:42:12   which one and it's just like this uh [TS]

00:42:15   it's just this thing that state you know [TS]

00:42:18   Shaun is getting very frustrated and [TS]

00:42:19   very like what is this is madness and [TS]

00:42:22   it's the same thing like you can't [TS]

00:42:24   download the app because he's standing [TS]

00:42:25   in the middle of a parking lot and so [TS]

00:42:28   Eric and Nabil both like sitting in [TS]

00:42:32   their respective homes like went through [TS]

00:42:34   all this process downloaded the app got [TS]

00:42:36   prepared for the for the for the event [TS]

00:42:39   for the day and I did what you might [TS]

00:42:42   expect you guess what I did I did [TS]

00:42:45   nothing about it until it was too late [TS]

00:42:48   to do anything about it [TS]

00:42:49   yes okay I took the the under that [TS]

00:42:53   strategy [TS]

00:42:54   I took the envelope with both of my [TS]

00:42:56   wristbands and all the instructions and [TS]

00:42:58   several VIP drink tickets and what up [TS]

00:43:01   whatever else and I put it in the front [TS]

00:43:03   pocket of my jacket and I walked around [TS]

00:43:06   the festival and I went everywhere that [TS]

00:43:09   I wanted to and when I would walk up to [TS]

00:43:11   a place and they would say do you have a [TS]

00:43:12   wristband I would say yeah it's here and [TS]

00:43:13   I would Pat my jacket as I walked past [TS]

00:43:16   them well no one stopped me and when [TS]

00:43:19   when it was time to to park in order to [TS]

00:43:22   do the to do our show there's I was like [TS]

00:43:27   where's the artists parking and they [TS]

00:43:29   said oh there isn't any and so I had [TS]

00:43:32   time to get wristbands with apps but [TS]

00:43:36   they don't have time to figure out a [TS]

00:43:37   place for loaning they designed it they [TS]

00:43:39   design an app but they didn't think [TS]

00:43:40   about loading so I just parked my truck [TS]

00:43:42   right in front of the venue like on the [TS]

00:43:45   not on the sidewalk but it was like a [TS]

00:43:46   Plaza and I took one of the VIP drink [TS]

00:43:49   tickets and I put it under the [TS]

00:43:50   windshield wiper and it work there's so [TS]

00:43:54   many ways it might end up working I'm [TS]

00:43:56   not going to use it as a drink ticket [TS]

00:43:57   right and it says VIP on it so I put it [TS]

00:43:59   under the windshield wiper that's kind [TS]

00:44:01   of all and I sat there and watch and all [TS]

00:44:03   day long cops on their beat swinging [TS]

00:44:04   their nightsticks would walk by they [TS]

00:44:06   stopped but look at this thing it is [TS]

00:44:08   look at them the VIP drink ticket and [TS]

00:44:11   they'd be like amen all they'd stroll [TS]

00:44:12   you know because should be good and uh [TS]

00:44:17   and I end and then it was [TS]

00:44:21   for the show the big show the night show [TS]

00:44:23   and we're standing out front we're [TS]

00:44:25   talking people are coming up to the [TS]

00:44:27   shoulders line of people trying to get [TS]

00:44:28   in and the bill walks over he says I [TS]

00:44:31   just talked to the woman at the front [TS]

00:44:32   door and she says they don't have the [TS]

00:44:34   guest list and I was like what this is [TS]

00:44:37   not good you know we're going on in 45 [TS]

00:44:39   minutes [TS]

00:44:39   I walked over and said uh I just heard [TS]

00:44:44   that you don't have the guestlist what [TS]

00:44:45   do we have to do and she said oh it's [TS]

00:44:48   not that I don't have the guest list [TS]

00:44:50   it's that we have no provision for us [TS]

00:44:52   having a guest list nobody said it word [TS]

00:44:54   about guest list and we're not supposed [TS]

00:44:56   to have that here I said how does that [TS]

00:44:59   work [TS]

00:45:00   she said well the guests your guests are [TS]

00:45:03   supposed to go down to the football [TS]

00:45:05   field and get the wristband and get the [TS]

00:45:10   app and activate the app are you kidding [TS]

00:45:13   me and I said oh that's not gonna work [TS]

00:45:17   at all and she said well I that's the [TS]

00:45:19   that's the deal so I so I called my guy [TS]

00:45:23   the the person that had been repping us [TS]

00:45:26   to the festival and I was like or the [TS]

00:45:28   our festival rep rather and I said hey [TS]

00:45:30   what's the story and he said well it's a [TS]

00:45:32   festival it's not every club doesn't [TS]

00:45:35   have a guest list it's like a fast and I [TS]

00:45:39   said yeah but you're describing it as a [TS]

00:45:40   fest like Bonnaroo or something where [TS]

00:45:43   there's one door one gate and you stop [TS]

00:45:47   at the gate and you get everything you [TS]

00:45:48   need before you go through the gate but [TS]

00:45:50   this is you're having this event in a [TS]

00:45:51   town this is your first year [TS]

00:45:55   this isn't how things are done we're you [TS]

00:45:57   know like people are they're gonna show [TS]

00:46:00   up for the show they're not going to go [TS]

00:46:03   to the football stadium and he's like [TS]

00:46:05   well I don't know what to tell you you [TS]

00:46:07   know this is the I didn't design it this [TS]

00:46:09   is the thing and you got you got to have [TS]

00:46:11   your your app and it's just I mean it's [TS]

00:46:16   just implicit in all of this though is [TS]

00:46:18   that everybody has a smartphone from a [TS]

00:46:21   major vendor that will allow them to [TS]

00:46:24   number two then wirelessly go to a site [TS]

00:46:28   get an app yeah I mean it's I guess it's [TS]

00:46:31   probably a fairly safe bet but oh my god [TS]

00:46:34   all system that you have you know then [TS]

00:46:36   you put in all this information [TS]

00:46:38   foundational yeah and then you then you [TS]

00:46:41   have to you have to enable the [TS]

00:46:43   microphone just in case it needs to hear [TS]

00:46:46   you scream or you need to you know it's [TS]

00:46:49   gonna send you notifications now for the [TS]

00:46:51   rest of the year and so forth give [TS]

00:46:52   yourself a memorable nickname fuck me [TS]

00:46:54   general so I'm on the phone with this [TS]

00:46:57   guy and I said listen it because you [TS]

00:47:00   know I've been practicing for a long [TS]

00:47:01   time like you know you've said to me [TS]

00:47:04   many times that I should be nicer have a [TS]

00:47:07   and well you know read between the [TS]

00:47:09   launcher and I've heard this from a lot [TS]

00:47:12   of people you should be nicer and you [TS]

00:47:15   know for every time that I put a VIP [TS]

00:47:16   drink ticket under the windshield wiper [TS]

00:47:18   of my truck and I get away with murder [TS]

00:47:19   all day there's another time when I'm [TS]

00:47:23   like angry to somebody and that makes [TS]

00:47:25   them sad and that's not what so I remain [TS]

00:47:30   not just calm but very friendly and I [TS]

00:47:32   say to this person let me let me [TS]

00:47:33   describe what's gonna happen what I want [TS]

00:47:37   what's gonna happen is about 15 minutes [TS]

00:47:40   from now my eighty two and a half year [TS]

00:47:41   old mother is gonna walk up to the door [TS]

00:47:43   of this venue and she's gonna say hello [TS]

00:47:46   I'm on the guest list they're going to [TS]

00:47:49   say we've never heard of this guest list [TS]

00:47:51   thing you need to go eight blocks to the [TS]

00:47:53   football stadium download get your [TS]

00:47:55   wristband download an app and the guy on [TS]

00:47:58   the other end of the line is he's he's [TS]

00:48:00   already with me right he's with me now [TS]

00:48:02   and I said see that is just not gonna [TS]

00:48:06   work at all right my 83 year old mother [TS]

00:48:10   82 and a half I'm sorry it's not it's [TS]

00:48:13   not I'm not gonna ask her to make this [TS]

00:48:14   Trek particularly not because she showed [TS]

00:48:16   up here 10 minutes before we went on [TS]

00:48:18   right and he's like right right right I [TS]

00:48:20   see I see I understand and I said so [TS]

00:48:22   there's gotta be some kind of situation [TS]

00:48:25   where you can send someone here to [TS]

00:48:28   handle this someone here to the venue to [TS]

00:48:31   handle this situation because I can't [TS]

00:48:35   handle it and you can do it the people [TS]

00:48:37   at the door can't handle it but it needs [TS]

00:48:39   to get handled [TS]

00:48:40   and he said let me let me let me let me [TS]

00:48:43   call you right back and I said okay so [TS]

00:48:46   I'm standing there and about four [TS]

00:48:49   minutes later here comes a guy up the [TS]

00:48:50   street and he's exactly the guy you want [TS]

00:48:53   to see because this is a festival being [TS]

00:48:56   put on by by Paul Allen and Vulcan right [TS]

00:48:59   so all the security at all these events [TS]

00:49:00   are the same people that work the [TS]

00:49:01   football games because they don't [TS]

00:49:04   they've never put on a music festival [TS]

00:49:05   before so they don't understand that [TS]

00:49:07   that's a thing that's a different kind [TS]

00:49:08   of thing right there are production [TS]

00:49:09   people who do it for a living production [TS]

00:49:12   is an actual job event production is a [TS]

00:49:15   high level job it's our intent planning [TS]

00:49:18   it's it's you know anything we think [TS]

00:49:20   like oh I can be an event planner it's [TS]

00:49:22   like because I schedule meetings and [TS]

00:49:23   people come to them it's like no you're [TS]

00:49:25   really shooting a bullet with a bullet [TS]

00:49:26   there's so many things even if [TS]

00:49:27   everything you plan goes flawlessly you [TS]

00:49:29   haven't accounted for the even be the [TS]

00:49:31   beginning of your job when everything [TS]

00:49:32   doesn't go as planned you see this in [TS]

00:49:34   tech all the time people are just like [TS]

00:49:35   oh I can do this anyway the guy shows up [TS]

00:49:39   he's uh he's dressed head to toe in [TS]

00:49:42   black which is what you want black jeans [TS]

00:49:44   black sleeveless t-shirt he has a radio [TS]

00:49:48   with a with like a microphone on his [TS]

00:49:52   shoulder good signs out signs [TS]

00:49:55   yep he has a Maglite and a Leatherman oh [TS]

00:49:58   yeah this is Jade on the sides of his [TS]

00:50:01   heads are shit sides of his head is [TS]

00:50:03   shaved but on the top he's got a like [TS]

00:50:05   black hair pulled back into a ponytail [TS]

00:50:09   he's got a Maglite he's probably got [TS]

00:50:11   some got some tape he's down the gun the [TS]

00:50:13   leather man he's got it all going on he [TS]

00:50:16   walks up puts his hand out he says hi [TS]

00:50:19   John we've worked together before [TS]

00:50:21   and I said it's great to see you and he [TS]

00:50:24   said what do you need I said here's a [TS]

00:50:26   situation he said don't worry about it [TS]

00:50:30   show me your guest list and I pulled it [TS]

00:50:32   up on my phone and he sat while I'm [TS]

00:50:35   holding my phone and he wrote all the he [TS]

00:50:37   didn't want me to email it to him [TS]

00:50:39   whew he just sat and like tapped in all [TS]

00:50:43   the names into his own phone really fast [TS]

00:50:47   and I was like I can just email this to [TS]

00:50:50   you and he was like nope I got it and I [TS]

00:50:53   you know and I'm do [TS]

00:50:54   in this while people are talking to me [TS]

00:50:56   right like he's not demanding any [TS]

00:50:57   attention either he's just like I [TS]

00:50:59   understand I got this covered and then [TS]

00:51:03   immediately everything was fine and I am [TS]

00:51:06   I grabbed him by the elbow and I was [TS]

00:51:08   like why are you not doing this already [TS]

00:51:10   and he said when they when they announce [TS]

00:51:15   this festival six months he's like leans [TS]

00:51:17   in or quiet when I they announce this [TS]

00:51:19   festival six months ago I sent them an [TS]

00:51:21   email and I said hey I'm like I'll [TS]

00:51:24   handle security and production for you I [TS]

00:51:26   have a production company I'll do this [TS]

00:51:29   work for you and I didn't hear back for [TS]

00:51:31   that from them for five and a half [TS]

00:51:32   months and two weeks ago they wrote me [TS]

00:51:35   and said will you please help us a [TS]

00:51:37   little bit of a fire fest type situation [TS]

00:51:38   yeah and he was like so I'm working for [TS]

00:51:41   him I could have done all this I could [TS]

00:51:43   have made all this a long time ago it [TS]

00:51:46   could have been fine [TS]

00:51:47   but anyway now it's fine I've got your [TS]

00:51:49   stuff fret not [TS]

00:51:51   and so I heard let so I left and went up [TS]

00:51:54   on the stage and I heard later that as [TS]

00:51:55   my people showed up at the door they [TS]

00:51:57   were like I'm on the guest list and the [TS]

00:51:59   people in throat were like welcome so [TS]

00:52:02   nobody got the app nobody nobody got the [TS]

00:52:04   wristbands they didn't even know that [TS]

00:52:06   they had to that's the beautiful thing [TS]

00:52:08   about this story Merlin they never even [TS]

00:52:10   learned that there was a thing that they [TS]

00:52:13   were getting around this doesn't get [TS]

00:52:16   some kind of an award you know what he [TS]

00:52:17   does get he gets the reward of being a [TS]

00:52:19   professional that kicks ass at his job [TS]

00:52:21   yeah I mean then I hope that they paid [TS]

00:52:24   the shit out of him because I mean I [TS]

00:52:25   keep to praise upon him and was like [TS]

00:52:28   thank you but the thing is as soon as I [TS]

00:52:29   saw him coming down the street I was [TS]

00:52:31   like oh someone from my tribe like here [TS]

00:52:33   I recognized what I see this person and [TS]

00:52:36   no TV you've met this Ranger before oh [TS]

00:52:40   yeah you know this kind of Ranger that's [TS]

00:52:41   walking up to you because he's walking [TS]

00:52:43   up with the with also the astride of [TS]

00:52:45   someone who is not like this is not a [TS]

00:52:50   guy who is going to follow orders and [TS]

00:52:53   one day be convicted of a war crimes but [TS]

00:52:57   you know somebody's just the way a fella [TS]

00:53:00   carries himself you just know whether or [TS]

00:53:01   not he'll illy he'll be a charged with [TS]

00:53:03   the war crime yeah this is not a second [TS]

00:53:05   lieutenant with his helmet on backwards [TS]

00:53:07   calling down artillery on his own [TS]

00:53:10   position yeah this is somebody who's [TS]

00:53:13   like at a certain point when he gets an [TS]

00:53:14   order that's that's fubar mm-hmm he's [TS]

00:53:17   gonna be like that order he's gonna [TS]

00:53:19   pluck that order that's right he's gonna [TS]

00:53:21   say and down sir yeah he's gonna say I [TS]

00:53:24   love your G sir I would prefer not to [TS]

00:53:30   I do not prefer it uh so anyway all by [TS]

00:53:34   way of saying you sit in this podcast [TS]

00:53:37   game the fucking app oh yes I don't want [TS]

00:53:42   any more apps I want fewer apps oh oh oh [TS]

00:53:45   oh I didn't tell you I know you want to [TS]

00:53:47   get to the Beatles but there's one more [TS]

00:53:49   thing we have a loyal listener to our [TS]

00:53:53   program who lives in Portland and she [TS]

00:53:56   runs a she runs an operation called [TS]

00:53:59   strange vacations which is a like it's a [TS]

00:54:03   motorcycle clothing and lifestyle [TS]

00:54:05   company for women and vacation strange [TS]

00:54:11   vacations [TS]

00:54:14   synthetics it's in PDX that's right and [TS]

00:54:17   she's got a you know a great collection [TS]

00:54:19   of it's not just that they do leather [TS]

00:54:21   jackets but they do events oh my God [TS]

00:54:24   look at this stuff yeah they they do you [TS]

00:54:27   know they're it's like a it's like a an [TS]

00:54:29   organization to bring like motorcycle [TS]

00:54:32   women who ride motorcycles of all of all [TS]

00:54:35   stripes [TS]

00:54:36   technically it's a Squarespace site not [TS]

00:54:38   just like us so she sent me a thing the [TS]

00:54:42   other day uh and I you may have heard of [TS]

00:54:45   it you may not have but it's a www.the [TS]

00:54:49   light phone calm are you familiar with [TS]

00:54:52   the light phone [TS]

00:54:52   no looking now the light phone the [TS]

00:54:56   lights on you said I saw this I thought [TS]

00:54:57   of you I thought you thought you might [TS]

00:54:59   like it the light phone oh my god [TS]

00:55:01   it is fun it is a phone the size of a [TS]

00:55:05   credit card also Squarespace site and it [TS]

00:55:08   has it has 10 preset people and then [TS]

00:55:14   just numbers on it it is just a phone [TS]

00:55:17   it's it's real little you can't text on [TS]

00:55:20   it you can't do [TS]

00:55:21   anything on it's just and any thing is [TS]

00:55:23   it's tethered to you're not tethered [TS]

00:55:25   it's somehow connected to your normal [TS]

00:55:27   phone so it's your same phone number so [TS]

00:55:30   for sometimes about four times when you [TS]

00:55:31   don't want a smart phone when you [TS]

00:55:32   literally just want to be reachable by [TS]

00:55:33   phone right so you leave your smartphone [TS]

00:55:36   at home you put this in your pocket that [TS]

00:55:38   you can call the ten people you most [TS]

00:55:40   regularly call and they can reach you [TS]

00:55:43   people can reach you but otherwise you [TS]

00:55:47   are free from having to look at your [TS]

00:55:50   thing I could use that I can so use that [TS]

00:55:52   right now and I think I think they said [TS]

00:55:54   it's like five bucks a month I mean it's [TS]

00:55:56   there they're doing everything they can [TS]

00:55:58   to make it like just like Thomas hey you [TS]

00:56:02   noticed a namaste I was kind of so she [TS]

00:56:05   was gonna make us a leather jacket kind [TS]

00:56:06   of bombed well you know I said to her at [TS]

00:56:08   one point Alex if you want to make me a [TS]

00:56:10   leather jacket I would accept it where's [TS]

00:56:11   where's that where's the rock swag and [TS]

00:56:13   she was like oh next time we get a big [TS]

00:56:15   order in and then I never you know she [TS]

00:56:18   sends me this kind of shit but never [TS]

00:56:19   says like oh yeah something dangerous [TS]

00:56:21   somebody takes the time to reach out and [TS]

00:56:23   offer us something useful or like that's [TS]

00:56:25   all very interesting oh here's my free [TS]

00:56:26   shit that's great but well what about [TS]

00:56:28   the leather jack what about the [TS]

00:56:29   thousand-dollar leather jacket that you [TS]

00:56:31   never said that you would make us anyway [TS]

00:56:33   well I thank you for your service [TS]

00:56:39   so I I was uh I was looking around the [TS]

00:56:42   other day somebody suggested that there [TS]

00:56:44   was a new Beatles documentary and so I [TS]

00:56:47   Lewin well so I went around looking for [TS]

00:56:50   it it was made by Ron Howard ha ha ha [TS]

00:56:53   heartbreaking and I couldn't find it [TS]

00:56:56   except on Hulu it's made made by and for [TS]

00:56:59   Hulu and I went to Hulu and they were [TS]

00:57:01   like you got download the app and then [TS]

00:57:03   you have to put in your you have to pick [TS]

00:57:04   a pick a name pick like a cute nickname [TS]

00:57:07   for yourself [TS]

00:57:08   get 30 days free but then you know but [TS]

00:57:11   then we're just gonna suck 15 dollars [TS]

00:57:13   out of your life for the rest of your [TS]

00:57:15   life I was like there's got to be a [TS]

00:57:17   better way and so I went on the internet [TS]

00:57:20   and I was like I want to watch this for [TS]

00:57:22   free how do i watch this for free and I [TS]

00:57:23   oh I never do this and I hate to do it [TS]

00:57:25   hunc is always awful it says good odds [TS]

00:57:27   with how you approach this industry but [TS]

00:57:30   I found a place where and I think it had [TS]

00:57:32   Japanese subtitles [TS]

00:57:34   something this sounds legit started [TS]

00:57:37   watching this movie and I was just like [TS]

00:57:39   oh it was you know you think there's no [TS]

00:57:42   new Beatles news Under the Sun there's [TS]

00:57:44   no new footage there's no new stories [TS]

00:57:46   you've heard it all you know every [TS]

00:57:48   cliche backwards and forwards chapter [TS]

00:57:49   and verse it's so wonderful when you [TS]

00:57:51   discover that there's more Beatle stuff [TS]

00:57:54   and great Beatles stuff like all this [TS]

00:57:58   live footage the cleaned up audio and [TS]

00:58:01   you can hear how great they are live and [TS]

00:58:04   when they did that sound great to [TS]

00:58:05   themselves they couldn't ring ring go [TS]

00:58:07   could not hear anything but here it [TS]

00:58:09   couldn't hear a thing but they hear but [TS]

00:58:11   there they are and then about halfway [TS]

00:58:13   through watching this thing it stops oh [TS]

00:58:16   no and I go try to refresh it and it's [TS]

00:58:19   gone like I am watching some pirate shit [TS]

00:58:22   as it's being taken down it's like it's [TS]

00:58:26   like the the light of another Sun and by [TS]

00:58:28   the time he gets here that that sounds [TS]

00:58:29   actually dead that Sun was gone right I [TS]

00:58:31   was just watching the I was watching the [TS]

00:58:33   master nice might have been dead when [TS]

00:58:35   you started watching it it's right the [TS]

00:58:36   dying embers of I mean I heard millions [TS]

00:58:38   of souls cry out and all were [TS]

00:58:40   extinguished at once [TS]

00:58:41   seven seven sided lighthouse made of [TS]

00:58:43   dreams right that's right so that's no [TS]

00:58:47   moon mmm you know what I'm saying [TS]

00:58:49   wasn't it sad though I mean it's you [TS]

00:58:52   just feel the melancholy I so much [TS]

00:58:53   there's so much Beatles news this week [TS]

00:58:55   I'm currently reading a book called [TS]

00:58:57   Beatles 66 and it's an entire book [TS]

00:59:00   length book all about starting really in [TS]

00:59:03   December 65 it's the length of a book [TS]

00:59:05   yeah it's a whole book about what [TS]

00:59:07   happens with the Beatles in 1966 great [TS]

00:59:09   year for the beetle which is easily the [TS]

00:59:11   most interesting really the most [TS]

00:59:12   interesting Beatles year and just in [TS]

00:59:13   short that means it's basically Rubber [TS]

00:59:16   Soul comes out to getting December 65 [TS]

00:59:18   they do a small tour in the UK they take [TS]

00:59:21   three months off which if you know the [TS]

00:59:26   Beatles and go look at some of the [TS]

00:59:27   infographics on the Beatles that [TS]

00:59:29   happened I think once period this is [TS]

00:59:32   this where they went down to the islands [TS]

00:59:33   they were in Greece in pre Maharishi I [TS]

00:59:36   believe but I haven't got that part of [TS]

00:59:38   the book yet but it's the thing to know [TS]

00:59:40   is that a lot of their interests as [TS]

00:59:43   individuals developed during this period [TS]

00:59:45   they didn't have the same haircut [TS]

00:59:46   anymore etc etc I mean there's [TS]

00:59:47   lots of what those three months to come [TS]

00:59:49   back they record revolver they release [TS]

00:59:51   revolver they do a little at this point [TS]

00:59:54   now so now they're done touring they're [TS]

00:59:56   done touring at this point and then they [TS]

00:59:57   start recording Sergeant Pepper at the [TS]

00:59:59   end of the year [TS]

00:59:59   end of the year [TS]

01:00:00   along with lots of life stuff I mean [TS]

01:00:02   Paul and John's relationships break up [TS]

01:00:04   Jon meets Yoko Ringo meets Charlie [TS]

01:00:07   Chaplin there's all these things that [TS]

01:00:09   happen there's questions about what the [TS]

01:00:10   next movie can and should be I mean [TS]

01:00:12   these are things were today this all [TS]

01:00:13   seems normal because you're used to help [TS]

01:00:15   pop culture and culture works back then [TS]

01:00:17   the idea of the most popular and [TS]

01:00:19   successful band in the world is gonna [TS]

01:00:21   stop touring like that's what rock music [TS]

01:00:24   is rock and roll rock and roll is [TS]

01:00:26   touring putting out records touring [TS]

01:00:27   putting out records who do you think you [TS]

01:00:30   are what are you you know Leonard [TS]

01:00:31   Bernstein you're gonna sit around and [TS]

01:00:33   write songs about love like get out [TS]

01:00:34   there mean amok ciao yeah that's right [TS]

01:00:36   but then the idea that like they [TS]

01:00:38   wouldn't just jump into an ill-advised [TS]

01:00:40   third movie when they didn't like the [TS]

01:00:41   script there's all these things that [TS]

01:00:43   they did were people like well this is [TS]

01:00:44   it [TS]

01:00:44   put a fork in them finally finally the [TS]

01:00:46   Beatles are going to be exposed for the [TS]

01:00:48   frauds that they are there's a career [TS]

01:00:51   there are little things a fluke [TS]

01:00:53   you got read reviews of Rubber Soul in [TS]

01:00:55   like an enemy and melody maker and like [TS]

01:00:57   has kind of a nice song and it's you [TS]

01:00:59   know in my life is like oh it has like a [TS]

01:01:01   nice piano melody but you know none but [TS]

01:01:03   it's finally over yep this is it I mean [TS]

01:01:05   really these guys they they the songs [TS]

01:01:08   know where man is so repetitious fool on [TS]

01:01:10   a hill like look that just this they [TS]

01:01:12   tried you know it's swinging to miss [TS]

01:01:14   next man please mm-hmm [TS]

01:01:16   sorry so anyway 1966 but in this case it [TS]

01:01:20   wasn't it heartbreaking though you know [TS]

01:01:21   that for years they were playing [TS]

01:01:23   sometimes three shows a day they like in [TS]

01:01:25   Liverpool they would play a a lunchtime [TS]

01:01:27   show at the Cavern Club and then to [TS]

01:01:29   evening shows at different venues they [TS]

01:01:31   were for a time playing up to three at [TS]

01:01:33   least three like gigs a day [TS]

01:01:35   I think they honestly legitimately did [TS]

01:01:37   love it and then they become successful [TS]

01:01:39   and now it's the worst it's like it's [TS]

01:01:42   like they're trying to swim around in [TS]

01:01:43   jello it's so not rock and roll I mean [TS]

01:01:48   it is rock and roll to the audience like [TS]

01:01:49   oh my god and we've been watching so [TS]

01:01:50   much because I told you last night we [TS]

01:01:51   watched a hard day's night and my [TS]

01:01:53   daughters request that's such a great [TS]

01:01:54   that iconic you just look at a [TS]

01:01:55   silhouette of those four guys and I [TS]

01:01:57   explained the appalls over on the left [TS]

01:01:58   because you know he's left-handed and [TS]

01:02:01   that makes this stage set up like so [TS]

01:02:03   iconic it is the a conic but you show a [TS]

01:02:05   silhouette of the four Beatles with [TS]

01:02:08   wrinkled up on the drum riser you [TS]

01:02:09   instant there's no question in your mind [TS]

01:02:11   who those four people originally were [TS]

01:02:14   then they can't laugh is not fun life is [TS]

01:02:17   not fun life is pulling teeth they feel [TS]

01:02:19   like they're treading water they're [TS]

01:02:20   musically they feel like they're moving [TS]

01:02:21   backward musically I'm confused what [TS]

01:02:25   role did Charlie Chaplin play in the [TS]

01:02:27   breakup of the Beatles not the breakup [TS]

01:02:29   of the Beatles since is 66 this is just [TS]

01:02:32   from the first chapter of this book [TS]

01:02:33   explaining why this was such a momentous [TS]

01:02:34   year it's just in the service of saying [TS]

01:02:36   that really the short version is that [TS]

01:02:39   from depending on when you start [TS]

01:02:40   counting let's say 62 through 65 it was [TS]

01:02:44   just a non-stop series of escalating [TS]

01:02:47   craziness as you saw in that documentary [TS]

01:02:49   they were increasingly I mean you you [TS]

01:02:52   already know like oh the Beatles [TS]

01:02:54   couldn't walk around cuz you know young [TS]

01:02:55   people would chase them like everybody [TS]

01:02:57   knew is that you've seen a hard day's [TS]

01:02:58   night that was partnered dinner but the [TS]

01:02:59   truth was their life was unmanageable [TS]

01:03:01   people were threatened the Ku Klux Klan [TS]

01:03:03   political groups the people were [TS]

01:03:05   threatening their lives at this point [TS]

01:03:06   they could not go anywhere they really [TS]

01:03:09   really were stuck for guys they're [TS]

01:03:11   mostly indistinguishable to strangers [TS]

01:03:13   for identical looking guys who played [TS]

01:03:16   terrible music and then all the people [TS]

01:03:19   who wanted to possess them that's what [TS]

01:03:21   it was and all the only only people in [TS]

01:03:22   their lives were a handful of like [TS]

01:03:24   girlfriends and music professionals and [TS]

01:03:27   so it was the first time since the [TS]

01:03:29   Beatles got anywhere near popular that [TS]

01:03:31   they had any air at all to go and [TS]

01:03:32   develop new interests you know go get [TS]

01:03:34   into you know Stockhausen or go out and [TS]

01:03:37   get into like whatever it is go out and [TS]

01:03:38   discover these things that would become [TS]

01:03:40   hugely important in the giant middle [TS]

01:03:43   phase of the Beatles well I'm sorry I'm [TS]

01:03:45   talking a lot because it's such a big [TS]

01:03:46   Beatles week what struck me about that [TS]

01:03:50   documentary I mean there were 50 things [TS]

01:03:53   that struck me about hard but one of the [TS]

01:03:56   interesting things that it just that had [TS]

01:03:58   never been had never been shown to me in [TS]

01:04:01   exactly that way was how much the [TS]

01:04:05   phenomenon of the Beatles was [TS]

01:04:08   registering as world historical to the [TS]

01:04:12   people of the time like the the [TS]

01:04:16   journalists were saying this is an [TS]

01:04:19   unprecedented crowd of people this has [TS]

01:04:22   never happened before no one has ever no [TS]

01:04:25   one expected this [TS]

01:04:27   right no one knows what to do about this [TS]

01:04:29   this this sense of that that guy that [TS]

01:04:32   followed them on tour who you know his [TS]

01:04:33   boss said you want to go out with the [TS]

01:04:35   Beatles he was like no why would I want [TS]

01:04:37   to do that that seems like a dumb thing [TS]

01:04:39   why are you sending me a seasoned [TS]

01:04:41   reporter on this dumb junket and then [TS]

01:04:43   two weeks in he's like I'm basically I [TS]

01:04:46   am living out the most extraordinary [TS]

01:04:50   event in the 20th century and this is [TS]

01:04:52   this is what uh 20 years after the end [TS]

01:04:56   of World War two most adults are you [TS]

01:05:01   know World War two is going to be their [TS]

01:05:02   formative tentpole moment for the 20th [TS]

01:05:05   century but this is like something above [TS]

01:05:09   and beyond what anybody could have ever [TS]

01:05:10   seen or known what to do and and that [TS]

01:05:13   hearing those voices and realizing that [TS]

01:05:17   from inside it I mean they were we you [TS]

01:05:22   always see the picture you know that [TS]

01:05:23   that like yeah there's never been a [TS]

01:05:25   Beatles before right like Beatle mania [TS]

01:05:26   sure it's but we're we're all post [TS]

01:05:29   beetles and to to hear those people [TS]

01:05:32   talking having been pre Beatles and now [TS]

01:05:36   being like trying to make sense of it it [TS]

01:05:39   was so thrilling but also just [TS]

01:05:42   terrifying because it had never happened [TS]

01:05:44   before and so who wants to keep that [TS]

01:05:48   tonight tonight being the night that [TS]

01:05:50   that everybody dies right I mean every [TS]

01:05:53   seconds you felt even even taking into [TS]

01:05:55   account whatever Johnny rays and Frank [TS]

01:05:57   Sinatra's of the past it felt it felt [TS]

01:05:59   unprecedented it felt weird so once it [TS]

01:06:02   started it seemed really exceptional [TS]

01:06:05   once it escalated it seemed even more [TS]

01:06:07   uncanny once it went to like 10 times [TS]

01:06:10   that people like well this has to end [TS]

01:06:12   like so it really becomes the in a [TS]

01:06:14   relatively short you were talking about [TS]

01:06:15   like a year and a half or less you go [TS]

01:06:18   from like they had a small single with [TS]

01:06:20   like love me do if you like a year ago I [TS]

01:06:22   think let me do have like 18 months [TS]

01:06:24   between when it first came out and like [TS]

01:06:25   when they really caught on they're a [TS]

01:06:27   popular band but there are tons of [TS]

01:06:29   popular big beat bands they call them [TS]

01:06:30   Merseybeat bands but then the entire [TS]

01:06:33   time you're a grown up it's like it's [TS]

01:06:35   not so different for the condition I [TS]

01:06:36   have today where I'm just going like [TS]

01:06:37   okay it's another day how long can this [TS]

01:06:39   go [TS]

01:06:40   on can this this there's no way this can [TS]

01:06:43   go on in another week let alone another [TS]

01:06:44   month talking about something different [TS]

01:06:46   here but think back then if you're one [TS]

01:06:47   of the burgers and Meister's like you [TS]

01:06:49   just be going like there's no way this [TS]

01:06:50   can continue this has got to be exposed [TS]

01:06:52   as a fraud and blow up in a shower of [TS]

01:06:54   sparks yeah yeah yeah right Oh or [TS]

01:06:57   something awful is going to happen you [TS]

01:07:00   know like it like people are going to [TS]

01:07:02   die [TS]

01:07:03   there's just no we we didn't prepare it [TS]

01:07:06   was only because it was an era of [TS]

01:07:08   greater civility that people didn't die [TS]

01:07:12   because they you know there were 25 cops [TS]

01:07:15   and all of a sudden there are 25,000 [TS]

01:07:19   people there and they just didn't have [TS]

01:07:21   the if the crowd had been unruly or less [TS]

01:07:25   rouille [TS]

01:07:27   you know they could have just stormed [TS]

01:07:28   the storm the doors or whatever it was [TS]

01:07:31   that you see all those scenes where [TS]

01:07:32   there's like 10 bobbies holding hands [TS]

01:07:34   with their hats getting knocked off and [TS]

01:07:36   they're like you know no stay back [TS]

01:07:39   but effect but that's effective right [TS]

01:07:42   the ten bobbies holding their hands and [TS]

01:07:43   the girls are like well we can't cross [TS]

01:07:45   the police line right now you know it [TS]

01:07:48   would have been I mean everyone would [TS]

01:07:50   everyone would have would have been I [TS]

01:07:52   mean it's astonishing to think no one [TS]

01:07:55   was crushed to death and nobody was [TS]

01:07:57   thinking about and improvised explosive [TS]

01:08:00   device right no none of those Ku Klux [TS]

01:08:02   Klan guys actually did ride in and ran [TS]

01:08:05   burn the place to the ground [TS]

01:08:06   and and you know and these four [TS]

01:08:09   ding-a-lings are riding the crest of [TS]

01:08:11   this wave and you know and it's so [TS]

01:08:15   lovely to see that they did have each [TS]

01:08:17   other in those in those years and they [TS]

01:08:19   did have that sort of I I didn't know [TS]

01:08:22   about thee about the fact that they had [TS]

01:08:24   they decided internally that they were [TS]

01:08:26   absolutely democratic and if one if one [TS]

01:08:30   Beatle didn't want to do something then [TS]

01:08:32   they wouldn't do it [TS]

01:08:33   and I just thought that was that was a [TS]

01:08:36   miracle I couldn't I I couldn't fathom [TS]

01:08:39   that they actually made all the [TS]

01:08:41   decisions that they made from 63 or 61 [TS]

01:08:46   to to whenever you know that the [TS]

01:08:49   decision to stop touring was just like [TS]

01:08:51   George saying [TS]

01:08:53   I can't do this anymore and they were [TS]

01:08:55   all like right right sure [TS]

01:08:57   done and that's like that's so lovely [TS]

01:09:00   and considering like how fast that all [TS]

01:09:02   fell apart and by two years later they [TS]

01:09:04   couldn't stand to be in the room with [TS]

01:09:05   each other but yeah imagine imagine [TS]

01:09:10   having them it's all damming through [TS]

01:09:11   this either bad you know right they're [TS]

01:09:14   young they're in their early 20s they're [TS]

01:09:15   they are very young their life is [TS]

01:09:17   changing very very quickly and yeah I [TS]

01:09:19   mean that's the thing is when you look [TS]

01:09:20   at the stuff and you look at the the [TS]

01:09:22   pictures in the movies and everything we [TS]

01:09:24   feel you know we're so nerd toward [TS]

01:09:26   toward those images but they were they [TS]

01:09:28   were living that this was all new to [TS]

01:09:29   them and they didn't know where was [TS]

01:09:30   going to go either [TS]

01:09:31   they basically it was understood the [TS]

01:09:33   question they would get in almost every [TS]

01:09:35   interview was okay so this is clearly [TS]

01:09:37   this is gonna end soon what are you [TS]

01:09:38   gonna do John and Paul would say well [TS]

01:09:40   we'll probably be songwriters and it was [TS]

01:09:41   generally I'm just quoting this book at [TS]

01:09:43   this point Beatles 66 is the oh well you [TS]

01:09:45   know for Ringo and George whatever money [TS]

01:09:47   they end up with they should probably [TS]

01:09:48   invest in business yeah obviously this [TS]

01:09:50   this will be over with any day now and [TS]

01:09:52   there are a couple of scenes in the [TS]

01:09:53   movie where Paul's like well you know I [TS]

01:09:55   think it'll last another six months and [TS]

01:09:57   and he's in a rare instance you know [TS]

01:10:01   being sincere they're not being snarky [TS]

01:10:02   they're like yeah I know you know who it [TS]

01:10:05   can't last right right like this is [TS]

01:10:07   madness oh poor Beatles horrible this [TS]

01:10:12   week so much so I was so the Beatle 66 [TS]

01:10:17   thing highly recommended [TS]

01:10:19   I had heard I just want to stipulate I [TS]

01:10:22   really liked the band The Beatles um [TS]

01:10:25   Sergeant Pepper on a good day is my [TS]

01:10:29   fourth favorite Beatles album probably [TS]

01:10:32   is like I would cite and the top ones [TS]

01:10:35   change but Rubber Soul revolver white [TS]

01:10:38   album Rubber Soul revolver white album [TS]

01:10:42   are always going to be to me jockeying [TS]

01:10:45   for top position and then you get down [TS]

01:10:47   into like with the Beatles or Abbey Road [TS]

01:10:51   but like you know surgeon peppers [TS]

01:10:55   hasn't aged well - there's a lot of [TS]

01:10:59   rubber sole is 51 years old and still [TS]

01:11:02   sounds like they're inventing a new kind [TS]

01:11:05   of music and obviously revolver I think [TS]

01:11:06   is I don't know fight me it's the best [TS]

01:11:08   album revolver is well I mean I've all I [TS]

01:11:12   want to say is that its conventional [TS]

01:11:14   wisdom I feel like this I don't know if [TS]

01:11:17   it started with this but I I feel like [TS]

01:11:19   the 25th anniversary whenever that was [TS]

01:11:22   of twenty years because it was twenty [TS]

01:11:25   years ago today so I guess that would be [TS]

01:11:27   90s or 87 rather there's this whole like [TS]

01:11:30   all you know Sergeant Pepper there would [TS]

01:11:32   be no this and that without Sergeant [TS]

01:11:34   Pepper and they were definitely know the [TS]

01:11:36   Beach Boys and the Beatles were playing [TS]

01:11:37   off each other at the apex and there [TS]

01:11:39   would not be psychedelia there would not [TS]

01:11:40   be multitrack like I it is I try to [TS]

01:11:43   stipulate it's a good album and it's got [TS]

01:11:45   some great songs it's a gestalt album no [TS]

01:11:48   no I accept and understand the [TS]

01:11:50   importance of Sergeant Pepper there are [TS]

01:11:52   so many other albums I would put on [TS]

01:11:54   first so I just wanted to just want to [TS]

01:11:57   prepare you for my adulation here by [TS]

01:11:58   saying that's my position on Sergeant [TS]

01:12:00   Pepper would you like to share your [TS]

01:12:01   position on Sergeant Pepper [TS]

01:12:04   so I also AM ace my feeling has always [TS]

01:12:10   been that Sergeant Pepper is a little [TS]

01:12:13   bit of a mixed bag of fruit and there's [TS]

01:12:18   a lot of stuff on there that yeah III [TS]

01:12:21   don't go back to over and over obviously [TS]

01:12:24   there are some great songs and obviously [TS]

01:12:25   it's the Beatles and every song is great [TS]

01:12:27   yeah well like do you come home from [TS]

01:12:29   working at the bar and put put on for [TS]

01:12:31   the benefit of mr. kite hmm typically no [TS]

01:12:33   yeah but um and and you know in it and [TS]

01:12:38   it foreshadowed a lot of the stuff on [TS]

01:12:39   the White Album that is kind of like you [TS]

01:12:45   know a little bit a little bit [TS]

01:12:47   responding to what I imagine is what [TS]

01:12:50   they think is the culture in you know in [TS]

01:12:55   downtown London that I mean you know you [TS]

01:12:57   those guys are still young guys and so [TS]

01:13:03   I think sensitive to being called a [TS]

01:13:10   you-know-what at the point at which the [TS]

01:13:12   Beatles became an epithet that the cool [TS]

01:13:16   art kids would use to describe something [TS]

01:13:20   that was cheesy or for teens I think the [TS]

01:13:24   Beatles themselves were really sensitive [TS]

01:13:26   to that and and really a lot of the the [TS]

01:13:29   exploratory nature of their later work [TS]

01:13:31   was both driven by their own sort of [TS]

01:13:35   desire to to be uh to not be static but [TS]

01:13:40   also you know we can't know what it's [TS]

01:13:42   like for them to go out to some club in [TS]

01:13:44   London and have hipsters sneer at them [TS]

01:13:48   it was in a really different culture and [TS]

01:13:50   time the music the music magazines were [TS]

01:13:52   very important back then and like [TS]

01:13:53   anybody who's ever going to abandon [TS]

01:13:54   England you get frustrated with the [TS]

01:13:55   press because they got their own thing [TS]

01:13:56   going on but unlike today where you [TS]

01:13:59   might more easily be criticized for [TS]

01:14:00   being unsophisticated back then it would [TS]

01:14:03   just be article after article about how [TS]

01:14:04   their days are up because they think [TS]

01:14:06   they've forgotten how to make a catchy [TS]

01:14:07   song and so they were trying all this [TS]

01:14:09   like putting a sitar on stuff which they [TS]

01:14:11   described as an Arabian guitar in the [TS]

01:14:13   press like they they were the Beatles [TS]

01:14:17   were two or three steps ahead of the [TS]

01:14:19   entire mainstream in that way and the [TS]

01:14:22   music was described I'm getting quoting [TS]

01:14:24   this book I don't have in front of me [TS]

01:14:25   but I remember very clearly their music [TS]

01:14:27   was became described as dark starting [TS]

01:14:30   around Rubber Soul although I think you [TS]

01:14:31   really could uh [TS]

01:14:33   Beatles for secretary feels resale is [TS]

01:14:35   very dark yeah you can hear it and help [TS]

01:14:37   oh god yes and like but they but they [TS]

01:14:40   but dark considered dark in an industry [TS]

01:14:42   where promoting good feelings is the [TS]

01:14:46   stock-in-trade so it was considered like [TS]

01:14:48   these guys have really lost the thread [TS]

01:14:49   on what they're doing here well so [TS]

01:14:52   there's that but there's also all those [TS]

01:14:53   I mean you think about like the John [TS]

01:14:58   Mayall & the Bluesbreakers or that that [TS]

01:15:01   whole movement of events even the stones [TS]

01:15:04   like there's so much cooler than the [TS]

01:15:05   Beatles [TS]

01:15:06   yeah just happening I get sixties in [TS]

01:15:08   England where it was like you know oh [TS]

01:15:10   we're not we're not making this like pop [TS]

01:15:12   music we're playing the Blues we're [TS]

01:15:14   serious white British dudes playing the [TS]

01:15:16   blue [TS]

01:15:17   and whatever else you know that they [TS]

01:15:19   were under all that social pressure [TS]

01:15:21   people doing avant-garde dance [TS]

01:15:25   performances and whatnot and the Beatles [TS]

01:15:27   are trying to be on the vanguard of [TS]

01:15:30   everything because of who they are you [TS]

01:15:33   know they want to be they don't want to [TS]

01:15:35   I mean that was that that was what was [TS]

01:15:37   so profound about that about Dylan at [TS]

01:15:40   Royal Albert Hall and the effect that [TS]

01:15:42   that had on John just that they went to [TS]

01:15:46   see Dylan and you could hear a pin drop [TS]

01:15:48   and John was like why don't people [TS]

01:15:51   listen to us like that like that that [TS]

01:15:54   feeling that he could get up there by [TS]

01:15:55   himself and be so serious so respected [TS]

01:16:00   so unimpeachable and I mean then again [TS]

01:16:05   Dylan is another phenomenon where you go [TS]

01:16:08   well there's never going to be another [TS]

01:16:10   one of those I mean imagine imagine what [TS]

01:16:13   it would be like to be somebody that [TS]

01:16:15   that really was unimpeachable for for [TS]

01:16:20   unimpeachable to all the people that you [TS]

01:16:22   desperately as an artist want to be [TS]

01:16:24   unimpeachable to that's the crazy thing [TS]

01:16:26   I mean there were the plenty of critics [TS]

01:16:28   of Dylan but all of the but none of the [TS]

01:16:31   critics of Dylan were the people that [TS]

01:16:32   Dylan cared about it would be almost [TS]

01:16:34   like at a time when there were comic [TS]

01:16:37   strips in the paper it would almost be [TS]

01:16:38   like there was a comic strip that got [TS]

01:16:40   really popular and then it got popular [TS]

01:16:41   with your smart friends and pretty soon [TS]

01:16:43   it was generally agreed to not only be [TS]

01:16:45   the most important comic strip of all [TS]

01:16:47   time but one of the great works of [TS]

01:16:48   literature we be going how could how [TS]

01:16:51   could a comic strip in the paper be one [TS]

01:16:54   of the greatest pieces of literature [TS]

01:16:55   that's antithetical these are pop groups [TS]

01:16:57   these are pop that's the other thing the [TS]

01:16:59   Beatles did not call themselves a rock [TS]

01:17:00   band they called themselves a pop group [TS]

01:17:02   they were a product in a lot of ways for [TS]

01:17:05   the beginning of their career who would [TS]

01:17:06   look at them we're doing like this guy [TS]

01:17:07   what folk music is going to become this [TS]

01:17:09   really important thing folk music come [TS]

01:17:11   on this is 1961 guys break up right it's [TS]

01:17:15   not 1935 and yes sorry ma kettle is not [TS]

01:17:18   going to be on the charts and then there [TS]

01:17:20   and there it is I as an artist as [TS]

01:17:23   somebody working in this in this [TS]

01:17:26   vernacular you know you you always want [TS]

01:17:30   to be the you desperately want to be the [TS]

01:17:33   band that not only that everybody loves [TS]

01:17:35   but even more importantly that everybody [TS]

01:17:37   respects and and you see you see artists [TS]

01:17:41   throughout time that kind of come out [TS]

01:17:44   with a thing people love it they respect [TS]

01:17:47   it and then there's there's two ways you [TS]

01:17:50   can go right you can be respected and [TS]

01:17:52   then your popularity falls off or you [TS]

01:17:55   can be popular and your respectability [TS]

01:17:57   falls off but those few sorry it's so [TS]

01:18:00   rare data to obtain and sustain both [TS]

01:18:04   it's very unusual stay up on that Ridge [TS]

01:18:07   and also step on that Ridge and seam and [TS]

01:18:11   make it seem like it's effortless you [TS]

01:18:13   know Dylan did everything he could to [TS]

01:18:15   dislodge himself and all it did was put [TS]

01:18:18   him put him back up there and and you [TS]

01:18:22   know and you think about like the Eagles [TS]

01:18:24   who were one of the most successful [TS]

01:18:25   bands in history and desperately craved [TS]

01:18:28   critical acknowledgement which they [TS]

01:18:30   which you know the critics just denied [TS]

01:18:32   them and you think about I mean even [TS]

01:18:35   bands of our of our age the The Strokes [TS]

01:18:38   that first strokes record like everybody [TS]

01:18:41   loved it but they weren't able to [TS]

01:18:43   maintain it they couldn't stay up there [TS]

01:18:47   somehow they and I think it was you know [TS]

01:18:50   it was a big big factor in Harvey [TS]

01:18:53   dangers kind of Harvey danger was [TS]

01:18:57   motivated by a desire to be respected by [TS]

01:19:00   the music critics much more than they [TS]

01:19:02   were by desire to be internationally [TS]

01:19:05   famous and you know those those [TS]

01:19:08   pressures really took their toll on [TS]

01:19:10   those guys um and Death Cab for Cutie [TS]

01:19:14   you know my my pals who have who have [TS]

01:19:17   done this career where they I think [TS]

01:19:21   worked very hard to get this to get on [TS]

01:19:25   this particular Ridge that they're on [TS]

01:19:27   which is that their critical appraisal [TS]

01:19:30   and their fan and the passion of their [TS]

01:19:33   fans has remained constant throughout [TS]

01:19:34   their career always growing at a steady [TS]

01:19:37   pace you know they've never [TS]

01:19:39   made a record that the critic said this [TS]

01:19:41   is the you know they've lost it they've [TS]

01:19:44   never really lost their fans but they've [TS]

01:19:47   never they've also never like hit the at [TS]

01:19:50   the big time considering how long their [TS]

01:19:52   career has gone like by this point and I [TS]

01:19:55   mean the death caps been a band for 20 [TS]

01:19:57   years um yeah I don't listen him to them [TS]

01:20:01   for 18 years that means when I started [TS]

01:20:03   listening to Death Cab for Cutie a baby [TS]

01:20:06   born on that day would now be getting [TS]

01:20:08   ready for college Yeah right [TS]

01:20:11   I know exactly right or I mean if if if [TS]

01:20:14   it was a par if you overlaid our EMS [TS]

01:20:17   career onto Death Cab for Cutie's career [TS]

01:20:19   we're into the 2000s in the REM canons [TS]

01:20:22   right Wow [TS]

01:20:23   so so Death Cab could have at any point [TS]

01:20:26   along that way had a record that was [TS]

01:20:29   their automatic for the people and they [TS]

01:20:31   never have but by the same token they've [TS]

01:20:33   never they've never like had a record [TS]

01:20:36   where it was like well you've had a [TS]

01:20:39   couple of million sellers and then the [TS]

01:20:40   next one sold a hundred thousand copies [TS]

01:20:42   well they don't have a den in self [TS]

01:20:44   portrait yeah our Metal Machine music [TS]

01:20:46   they never they never went crazy or been [TS]

01:20:50   different version of Metal Machine music [TS]

01:20:51   you know I know it you never you never [TS]

01:20:53   know you never know what comes I can see [TS]

01:20:55   Chris wallet and that maybe but for me [TS]

01:20:58   you know the the the desire to be [TS]

01:21:02   critically loved is so powerful even [TS]

01:21:06   even if you sit with your friends and [TS]

01:21:08   this is what all artists do they said [TS]

01:21:10   make it wow they don't know anything but [TS]

01:21:12   you know the critics are all black you [TS]

01:21:14   know the shit-talking critics is number [TS]

01:21:17   one thing you do on a Saturday afternoon [TS]

01:21:18   with your musician friends but you also [TS]

01:21:21   just want like I for some reason I don't [TS]

01:21:25   know what happened I went and looked at [TS]

01:21:27   pitchforks top albums of 2002 mm or mm [TS]

01:21:33   yeah I don't know why why would you look [TS]

01:21:35   at that that's a strange way I don't [TS]

01:21:36   even occur to you to look at I know it [TS]

01:21:38   was weird it's weird I'm going by what [TS]

01:21:40   they thought about that year also create [TS]

01:21:41   just looking I was just looking folks [TS]

01:21:43   dreams I think and I just got isn't it's [TS]

01:21:45   just checking out 2002 just look back [TS]

01:21:47   then looking to see what and you know [TS]

01:21:49   the number [TS]

01:21:50   album pitchforks number one album of [TS]

01:21:52   2002 was Interpol's turn on the bright [TS]

01:21:55   lights love will tear us apart and you [TS]

01:22:00   know and there were there were a lot of [TS]

01:22:01   bands in the top 20 that that I don't [TS]

01:22:04   think anybody's heard of since [TS]

01:22:06   ml knows by the trail of dead [TS]

01:22:09   oh yeah Arctic Snow Patrol monkeys its [TS]

01:22:11   way up there sure [TS]

01:22:12   sure the Arctic snow patrol monkeys were [TS]

01:22:15   were there I get I get it maybe a Franz [TS]

01:22:18   Ferdinand maybe you get a dog's die in [TS]

01:22:20   hot cars what do you get I think maybe [TS]

01:22:22   those even those came a year later okay [TS]

01:22:24   um you know you get some shins you get [TS]

01:22:28   some gonna be born on occurs but uh oh [TS]

01:22:32   yeah that would be like a blown speakers [TS]

01:22:34   era maybe New Pornographers pitchfork [TS]

01:22:38   2002 elmo's or is they called them then [TS]

01:22:41   LPS LPS 2002 LPS can't here we go songs [TS]

01:22:45   Ohio songs Ohio that was a great record [TS]

01:22:48   actually yep okay line from Sonic Youth [TS]

01:22:53   mm-hmm yeah no oh then no twist I always [TS]

01:22:57   forget the name of that band I like the [TS]

01:22:59   new DOS list yeah kill the moonlight [TS]

01:23:01   very good especially when you listen to [TS]

01:23:02   it backwards that is a good good record [TS]

01:23:04   girls can tell is better trail of dead [TS]

01:23:09   bleeps and bloops Yankee Hotel Oh Yankee [TS]

01:23:13   Hotel Foxtrot that was the one I really [TS]

01:23:14   shook my fist at yeah really [TS]

01:23:16   at the time you like the more tinsel [TS]

01:23:18   ones well no I felt like that I felt [TS]

01:23:20   like the long winters uh worst you can [TS]

01:23:23   do is harm oh that's right you had that [TS]

01:23:25   album come out around that time the [TS]

01:23:26   worst you can do is harm ya just [TS]

01:23:28   wouldn't believe me that that just wants [TS]

01:23:30   in Italy coincidentally uh and if you [TS]

01:23:34   know I felt like if you put a worse you [TS]

01:23:36   can do is harm an Yankee Hotel Foxtrot [TS]

01:23:38   side-by-side yeah you know there I mean [TS]

01:23:43   I you know I'm probably the not the one [TS]

01:23:46   to ask [TS]

01:23:46   I really feel those I feel like the long [TS]

01:23:49   winters uh record holds its own in that [TS]

01:23:52   competition yeah but one of them was all [TS]

01:23:55   anybody could talk about and the other [TS]

01:23:57   one was not [TS]

01:23:57   talked about the last trip but on here [TS]

01:24:01   all covered by all music guide yeah paul [TS]

01:24:04   music i did a nice guy was hard on the [TS]

01:24:06   first one right they were yeah they [TS]

01:24:10   didn't undertake no on it and and they [TS]

01:24:15   were wrong you know but uh but you know [TS]

01:24:19   a review like that goes out and it just [TS]

01:24:21   hangs there for years he Travis Morrison [TS]

01:24:23   yeah that's right [TS]

01:24:24   um have you I realize in spring this on [TS]

01:24:28   you late and I I'm thinking we should [TS]

01:24:29   make this homework for the next episode [TS]

01:24:31   have you had an opportunity to listen to [TS]

01:24:32   the remix of Sergeant Pepper yet no I [TS]

01:24:37   would like to if you don't have it I [TS]

01:24:39   would like to gift you with that and if [TS]

01:24:41   the stereo remix or a mono well that [TS]

01:24:47   part is that part of the story George [TS]

01:24:48   Martin in his later years was having a [TS]

01:24:50   lot of trouble with his hearing and he [TS]

01:24:52   brought in his son who has done lots of [TS]

01:24:53   production stuff to be as he says his [TS]

01:24:55   ears and they work together on love a [TS]

01:24:57   long story short um uh shoot what's his [TS]

01:25:01   name a Clive was George Martin's son's [TS]

01:25:03   name I'm totally spaced um but a son [TS]

01:25:05   Martin Martin Hannett um emmerich [TS]

01:25:10   ethanol Masterson Tiger Woods Masterson [TS]

01:25:15   marnik matches insider woods Wow you [TS]

01:25:18   know what they did they went in Janet [TS]

01:25:20   Janet Martin Janet Janet Martin Maher [TS]

01:25:22   way mole shauna malwae-tweep [TS]

01:25:26   Martin Martin and Martin on the tame [TS]

01:25:29   they camels upon Martin bucket uh they [TS]

01:25:36   went in and they got they got I guess [TS]

01:25:38   they got the source tracks that became [TS]

01:25:41   this is the pre bounced down what tracks [TS]

01:25:45   I forget those alone I don't know cuz I [TS]

01:25:49   can't believe no one ever thought to do [TS]

01:25:51   this before now take all the original [TS]

01:25:54   stuff no there's this what yeah what [TS]

01:25:57   come on they got all of that stuff you [TS]

01:26:00   trying to kid well no come on [TS]

01:26:02   yeah and then they they remixed it with [TS]

01:26:05   the idea of saying here's the problem [TS]

01:26:06   you take something like a day in the [TS]

01:26:08   life the the drum sounds at the [TS]

01:26:10   beginning [TS]

01:26:11   dan like don't bump bump like the mono [TS]

01:26:15   version everything that blah blah blah [TS]

01:26:16   good research beetles nerds preferences [TS]

01:26:19   on stereo vs. mono the true story is [TS]

01:26:21   that for most of the Beals career they [TS]

01:26:23   were heavily involved with George Martin [TS]

01:26:25   in the production of the mono but like [TS]

01:26:28   increasingly they would go like man you [TS]

01:26:29   just go do something for the stereo so [TS]

01:26:32   they could be actually kind of different [TS]

01:26:33   versions with different parts you hear [TS]

01:26:34   different things and a lot of times the [TS]

01:26:36   stereo was really just ring goes over [TS]

01:26:37   here on the right Ringo Impala over here [TS]

01:26:39   nobody else is over here is pretty [TS]

01:26:40   simple and and there's for a long time [TS]

01:26:43   but understanding that like boy you know [TS]

01:26:44   essentially what they did was they said [TS]

01:26:46   we want to make a 3d stereo sounding mix [TS]

01:26:49   that's got the propulsion and fullness [TS]

01:26:52   of the mono version and you're going to [TS]

01:26:54   hear low-end like you have never heard [TS]

01:26:56   before I don't wanna spoil it for you I [TS]

01:26:59   would just I would like if you would [TS]

01:27:00   please to consider and we will put this [TS]

01:27:02   in the budget for the show so here's [TS]

01:27:04   what you get you're gonna get you're [TS]

01:27:05   gonna get this you're gonna get the new [TS]

01:27:07   remixed Sergeant Pepper but that's not [TS]

01:27:09   all but that's not all if you buy two [TS]

01:27:11   and pay a separate fee huh you um it [TS]

01:27:15   also includes whatever take they used of [TS]

01:27:18   the base track unadorned hmm so you know [TS]

01:27:24   you're gonna hear what it sounded like [TS]

01:27:26   and you nerds have been able to get [TS]

01:27:28   these in the various trucks and back [TS]

01:27:31   corners for a while but I think that a [TS]

01:27:32   lot of time on YouTube listening to this [TS]

01:27:34   stuff if I can what I got I mean I went [TS]

01:27:37   pretty deep into the like oh the MS FL [TS]

01:27:39   AB it's kind of revolver and all these [TS]

01:27:42   different versions and I had all the [TS]

01:27:43   stereo in all the mono I'm just saying [TS]

01:27:45   like once you sat down I on Saturday I [TS]

01:27:47   listened to Sergeant Pepper probably for [TS]

01:27:51   the first time my life I listened to [TS]

01:27:53   Sergeant Pepper three times in one day [TS]

01:27:54   can VIN I listen to the bass tracks and [TS]

01:27:56   it's a new album and I'm gonna leave it [TS]

01:27:58   at that would you consider doing this [TS]

01:28:00   for homework yeah I will do this I'll do [TS]

01:28:02   and then we'll come back next week and [TS]

01:28:03   amongst our other topics we will talk [TS]

01:28:05   about the 1967 album sergeant pepper's [TS]

01:28:09   Lonely Hearts Club Band all right [TS]

01:28:14   can't wait can't wait to can't wait to [TS]

01:28:17   to dig into this because as you know I [TS]

01:28:19   like the Beatles yeah me too [TS]

01:28:21   I think I'm ready to reappraise this it [TS]

01:28:23   sounds like The White Album in a good [TS]

01:28:25   way if you think Liam tracks just [TS]

01:28:28   floating around for the other albums [TS]

01:28:30   good question the thing is it's sort of [TS]

01:28:33   like John Syracuse's position on the New [TS]

01:28:35   START Star Wars uh you know the updated [TS]

01:28:38   editions [TS]

01:28:38   it's like Empire Strikes Back is [TS]

01:28:40   actually not very marred whereas the [TS]

01:28:43   first Star Wars movie is just massacred [TS]

01:28:45   I'm guessing that's what it's like I bet [TS]

01:28:47   you know revolver sounds pretty great [TS]

01:28:49   yeah but if they exist I will kick start [TS]

01:28:52   the shit out of that get in there and do [TS]

01:28:53   this for every one of these albums oh my [TS]

01:28:56   god what is his name it feel terrible [TS]

01:28:58   now but you want George Martin to be at [TS]

01:29:00   the helm the day that George Martin [TS]

01:29:02   isn't helming the thing then it just [TS]

01:29:05   becomes Lyle's Martin and he's so [TS]

01:29:08   specifically though yes he's going to [TS]

01:29:09   keep in mind what his father would do [TS]

01:29:11   but even more importantly he's going to [TS]

01:29:13   ask the two living beatles and going to [TS]

01:29:15   try to infer what the other Beatles [TS]

01:29:16   would want its retrying to do it in the [TS]

01:29:18   spirit of what they would want to deal [TS]

01:29:20   with this ask the living Beatle ask the [TS]

01:29:23   living Beatles I just wish that I wish [TS]

01:29:27   that Paul was more trustworthy you you [TS]

01:29:31   have not directly super directly [TS]

01:29:32   addressed this you have some credibility [TS]

01:29:35   issues with Paul McCartney [TS]

01:29:36   sir sir sir mr. Lord Paul McCartney yes [TS]

01:29:39   and will you you parse you parse hard on [TS]

01:29:42   Anna McCartney quote I just yeah I just [TS]

01:29:44   I'm just I'm hoping that Paul just [TS]

01:29:48   hoping that Paul does the right thing [TS]

01:29:50   here Paula at this point is probably [TS]

01:29:52   overwritten a lot of the original tape [TS]

01:29:54   in his mind that's what I'm worried [TS]

01:29:56   about he might have done he might have [TS]

01:29:58   done too many punches and like there's [TS]

01:29:59   just stuff that he remembers a version [TS]

01:30:01   of it that he started telling slightly [TS]

01:30:03   differently in 1972 and he's kind of [TS]

01:30:05   operating off of that broken bit of tape [TS]

01:30:07   yeah I'm just I'm just afraid that it's [TS]

01:30:10   you know I mean what was his thing where [TS]

01:30:13   he was like I don't see what's not cool [TS]

01:30:15   McCartney linen Oh Lucy knew for the [TS]

01:30:17   Bob's your uncle [TS]

01:30:18   please I know and actually the credits [TS]

01:30:21   that has been that has been corrected [TS]

01:30:22   what it's now McCartney Lennon some-some [TS]

01:30:25   that basically a credit has [TS]

01:30:27   a portion based on contribution and I'm [TS]

01:30:31   trying to remember I don't have the hard [TS]

01:30:32   copy I've got the streaming version on [TS]

01:30:34   Apple music but yeah yes Moseley is [TS]

01:30:37   actually good for Giles Martin good [TS]

01:30:39   Giles Giles you know it's good for Giles [TS]

01:30:42   everybody's got to earn a living [TS]

01:30:43   mmm-hmm that's what they say yeah John's [TS]

01:30:46   Martin's 47 there's a 47 year old guy [TS]

01:30:48   producing Beatles albums now mr. presser [TS]

01:30:51   that's it the junker than you write just [TS]

01:30:54   barely just barely yeah so I let them [TS]

01:30:56   pick me [TS]