Roderick on the Line

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00:00:05 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin oh you sound [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► really good today [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► do I mm-hmm you do anything different [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► well I feel that you know using Markos [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► criteria hmm today is gonna be a little [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► bit of a rough background noise day okay [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► because you know he doesn't like [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► background noise and I've got so the the [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► the Washington Washington State College [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► the the Cougars people across the street [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► who are rehabilitating Jamaica's house [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► they have a lab one of those little mini [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► cats out there today oh of course [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► so they're mini Katan mm-hmm and then [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► it's that season in Seattle when the [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► when the Sun comes out and all the [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► airplanes go into the sky at once [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► because everybody here that wants to be [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► in an airplane says this is my moment [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► and rolls their airplane season its [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► airplane season big time so from a [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► background noise standpoint I mean just [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► a few moments ago I was I was like how [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► is this going to work because they were [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► unloading the mini cat and some kind of [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► like Paraguay and demonstration jet [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► demonstration team was flying overhead [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► and I was like this all those [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► paraguayans they loved the [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► demonstrations it really did they love [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► the they want to put on a show it's part [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► of the culture way yeah [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► well apologies if I don't I thought [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► assume worker listen to the show I think [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► I think he did at one point but you know [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► Marco I'm sorry it's it's it's hard I [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► was on a show recently where one of the [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► sides of the recording took place [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► sometimes on a beach and they were able [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► to record background ambient Beach noise [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► and use some kind of black magic to [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► remove that particular range from the [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► recording oh it's crazy what you can do [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► if you try i right now I'm it's not not [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► go crazy here ya know but I mean a lot [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► of the a lot of my just intrinsic [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► background noise that just follows me [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► everywhere is the sound of a beach [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► no another I don't if I put these words [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► but I just wanna say that whatever [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► happens in the show is in the show this [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► is all right part of the show right I [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► think that's why people here I remember [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► I feel like in our classic episode a [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► supercar toid that we talked about you [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► know there are things that we could do [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► there there are hacks then we could [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► deploy but we're not going to do that [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► because that's something that's not part [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► of the show hacks aren't the show know [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► that cheb the show is not about hacks we [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► could do a life hacks episode you know [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► what we should do a show called hacks [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► hacks oh wait a minute [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► hmm I bet we'd went ahead phony for that [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► oh is that like an ear wolf show is that [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► one is comedy podcasts you know what I [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► don't understand comedy at all I don't [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► understand comedy podcasts I can't I [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► can't tolerate him but what is a comedy [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► podcast you know what I mean yeah I [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► guess you you know what they did card [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► podcasts or we have comedy people on and [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► they do comedy and then the other [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► friends who do comedy on and they do [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► comedy together yeah comedy together [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► counting together comedy together oh [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► yeah I think are funny aren't are mostly [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► people who are not formally funny for a [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► living have you noticed that the other [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► thing you parked on the driveway you [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► drive on the Parkway every once in a [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► while I'll meet a comedian who's [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► actually funny funny person what's in a [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► while yeah yeah but but it's not the [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► regular thing but like yeah I got I got [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► friends that like work in libraries that [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► are way funnier than most convenience [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► mm-hmm shit Merlin I've got friends that [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► clean libraries that are funnier than [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► most comedians [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► basura yeah it's you know it sounds mean [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► to say oh I know everything does yeah [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► that's probably about every day not [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► everything's fraught yeah but yeah yeah [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► I don't know it's just you've been to [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► comedy things we performed we performed [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► a comedy things okay how many people are [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► not funny in person some of them are I [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► mean you take a Jonathan Coulton [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► Jonathan Colin's a very funny guy but [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► he's not a comedy person he's not [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► technically a comedy person no [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► not a comedy person there are a few [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► there a few which I will busman's [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► holiday do you think it's something were [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► like no no no I know that they you know [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► Brooke Joel McHale Joel McHale all the [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► greats [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► Joel McHale is a great guy easy money [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► God Chris Chris Hardwick that's that's [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► one of the nicest people you'll ever [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► meet [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► he's a funny guy he's funny and he's [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► nice he's like a normal person [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► oh nice and funny that's see maybe [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► that's it then handsome very handsome he [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► wear suits to fit I've always admired [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► that about him he's small though right [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► he's very small he's almost pocket-sized [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► yeah he doesn't seem big when you look [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► at him on television he's like one point [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► to Dan Benjamins one point to Dan [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► Benjamins well maybe maybe 1.09 mmm-hmm [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► one point to Dan Benjamins is a is a [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► measurement of heat right it's yeah yeah [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► so you kill it you tell the bulk bag [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► thermally you know uh I'm a horse today [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► I'm a pony [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► hmm I don't know why um I'm pretty [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► frazzled I got a say I sent you a text [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► at five o'clock on the plane last night [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► you did I think sounds like your sleep [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► got disrupted it said Merlin it's five [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► a.m. [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► normally I it's one of the longest [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► tweets you've ever sent me I think [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► normally I you know I'll send you a [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► little text at two minutes before we're [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► about to go on and say hey can we push [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► this back a little bit I see that yeah [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► but I had some foresight last night and [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► said Merlin it's 5:00 in the morning I'm [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► still not asleep can we push our show [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► back a couple of hours you're [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► practically a project manager and look [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► at you you were just like fine I am [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► flexible and ready to do whatever it [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► takes [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► oh here we are two hours later so did [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► you finally get to sleep around 5:00 I [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► did you know I was I was doing that [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► thing that I do sometimes which is I [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► push it right to the wall where I was so [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► tired but I just wouldn't go to sleep [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► it's not that I couldn't go to sleep I [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sip you wouldn't go to sleep [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► and right there 4:30 5:00 in the morning [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► I was like you bastard [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► the light was starting to come up in the [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► sky [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► birds were tweeting and I was like you [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► son-of-a-bitch [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► go to goddamn sleep and then whatever [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► that other thing is was like now and not [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► big boy yeah and so I did whatever and [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► something dumb I watched you know Stalag [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► 17 hmm 215 minute movie now I'm not [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► going to bed and then finally I was just [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► like oh my god I pad so I did I went to [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► sleep at five and is it the dread of how [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► you'll feel the next day [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► what is the when you're finally able to [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► shout down that four-year-old boy voice [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► what it what is the thing that finally [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► tips the scales you say I got you man [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► this is crazy I think it is that I do [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► have things to do in the day because in [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the old days when I didn't have [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► something to do the next day I would [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► just I would just go and go and go my [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► mom would wake up because my you know my [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► mom would wake up that's us back when we [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► lived together my mom make up about five [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► and I'd hear her puttering around and I [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► would go downstairs always an unpleasant [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► surprise for her because her 5:30 a.m. [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► time is her time oh sure she gets a lot [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► accomplished in the early morning she [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► does it but you know that's her time to [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► sit and read the newspaper and have her [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► coffee and get her thing going and I [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► would come bumbling down in my bathrobe [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► like good morning and she'd be like oh [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► so I would get a cup of coffee my you [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► know 5:30 a.m. coffee and we would sit [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► and read the newspaper together in [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► silence which is one of the things we [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► used to do that that gave us both an [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► enormous amount of pleasure and it was [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► just okay be silent we would just sit [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► there and be quiet and read the [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► newspaper and drink coffee and I said [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► that's a nice relationship to have yeah [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► she was just coming online and I was [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► starting to go offline and right about [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► the time that she would start to get [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► chatty about the news says here that the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► Port Commission is going to eminent [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► domain some warehouses I would I'd you [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► know I'd field a couple of those with my [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► badminton racket and then I would say [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► I should probably get into sleep yeah [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► and then I would you know tootle off and [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► she would start her day so there were a [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► few there well not a few there were [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► quite a few eras where where I would I [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► would I would push my sleep envelope all [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► the way over to the other day oh you do [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► like a wraparound I do a wraparound yeah [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► geez yes it's really hard it's you know [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► the wraparound I get real goofy yeah [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► it's been it's been so it's been really [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► since our daughter was a you know an [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► infant probably excepting the occasional [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► like you know health thing I just don't [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► do that anymore [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► I can't do that anymore yeah that's [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► tough I don't recover it's so [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► complicated when you live with other [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► people because you have to find I mean [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► even if you live in a big American place [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► I mean you know but by international [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► standards our you know our houses are [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► pretty huge but even then you have to [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► have a lot of culture and understanding [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► about people's spaces I know that this [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► seems really obvious but it's something [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► I've been thinking about lately as my [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► kid gets older it's like having an [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► understanding about like you know what [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► if you have to go to the bathroom and [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► someone is in there like what if [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► somebody is doing a thing over here like [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► should you just kind of leave them alone [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► if your wife says she's just gonna rest [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► her eyes and you say why don't you just [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► call it an average says I'm just gonna [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► rest my eyes you know the kind of means [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► you know don't be in the room know what [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► I mean and I feel like this some of [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► those things we talked about some of the [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► things we don't talk about but like it's [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► the ways that you give each other space [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► in a house can be very complicated [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► yeah and super important my goodness [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► like I say I know it seems obvious but [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► like in practice and and in evolution [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► you know you think about things like to [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► go on but things like okay like you [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► change like you know where the TV is or [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► you change like you know move stuff [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► around in the dining room and like [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► somebody's space gets disrupted and if [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► you don't honor that that was somebody's [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► space without acknowledging it you know [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► it gets complicated uh this is starting [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► to sound like a George Carlin routine [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► you got your stops so we're talking [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► about evolution is what you're saying [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► yeah I think the way John John John [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► siracusa says you know it's a lucian [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► area biologist said Sadek yours no seer [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► no seer no Z said said said Kusa Musa I [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► am you know for years and years of [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► course I've been I've been saying sort [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► of out loud as an explanatory uh you [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► know caveat about myself that I'm an [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► that I'm an introvert yes just I've been [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► saying that for a long time I'm starting [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► stand chewing on that and I it's a very [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► interesting thought technology I've been [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► saying it I've been saying it forever [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► because it it does accurately reflect [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► you know the sort of classic description [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► of an introvert as they as they are [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► trying to interact with the rest of the [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► world like nine out of ten of those line [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► up exactly with how I feel so it felt [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► very much like you know if if you [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► answered yes to more than four of these [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► 15 questions then maybe you have a [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► problem with uh with with the diuretics [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► or whatever and I was like I just [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► answered 15 out of 15 here so it it's [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► very explanatory but what I've realized [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► is that is not it is not completely [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► explanatory obviously but also sharing [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► space with other people where you want [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► them there is is like so complex I think [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► for everybody and and like I don't mind [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► people being around me it turns out I [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► don't mind people in my house and in my [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► space but I but that it but there needs [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► to be a very nice dance there's a very [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► nice dance that happens uh-huh and the [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► other people have to also be really in [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the dance and it turns out you know one [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► of the problems with me one of the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► reasons that I've never been married is [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► that I don't like people touching my [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► feet in the night mm-hmm don't touch my [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► feet even really clear about that though [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► haven't yeah that's really hard it's [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► hard though people like to touch feet [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► the thing is I love if you touch my feet [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► in the afternoon if I'm sitting on the [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► couch and I'm reading a novel and you [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► come sit at the other end of the couch [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► and touch my feet you can even grab and [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► hold my feet do you put put my feet [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► right in your lap this is in the [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► afternoon though it's me afternoon in [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► the early evening if you want to if you [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► want to sit and pet my feet I will just [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► purr I'll purr like a mountain lion a [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► little pause just for error error error [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► but I'm gonna say don't touch my feet in [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► the morning and in the middle of the [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► night when I am sleeping don't get [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► around there and mess with them save it [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► for the afternoon afternoon and evening [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► that so that is a great time if you're [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► feeling fede to come you know like have [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► some feet time yeah the middle of the [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► night keep your feet over there and I'll [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► keep my feet over here he is very clear [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► it seems very clear yeah but it also [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► just seemed so normal to me like who [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► what I'm sure there are people in fact I [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► knew a girl that if you touched her feet [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► she would scream not not a good way not [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► in a good way [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► there was she had some thing and I could [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► never exactly figure out what she was [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► talking about but she had a thing don't [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► touch my feet thing and the first time I [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► touched her feet it was in public it was [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► in a room full of friends and I and the [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► other people had known her for a lot [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► longer than I had oh boy [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and I touched her feet [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► put a hand on her feet and the room went [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► gasp oh no you're the only one who [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► didn't know I was the only one that [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► didn't know and I looked around I was [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► like what and a good friend of mine and [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► actually Merlin he's a friend of ours as [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► we say it's not just a friend of mine [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► he's a friend of ours he said to her I [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► can't believe what I'm seeing right now [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► and she said through you know like you [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► know short breaths she said it's okay he [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► doesn't know and I was like what is [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► going on and our friend yours and mine [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► said I've never seen anyone touch her [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► feet where she didn't scream like bloody [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► murder scream and I took my head off her [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► foot and I was like whoa what's why is [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► it are you injured and it was then I had [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► this whole conversation about like no [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► that's her thing don't touch her feet [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► and it was i I was affectionate gesture [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► she and I were having an affection at [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► times and it had just I had not gotten [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► the bulletin and from that point on of [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► course then you're like oh oh geez you [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► know now I do know I've never actually [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► never actually experienced in her case a [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► foot the touched foot producing a screen [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► because I then stayed away I sure you [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► learn your lesson I didn't put hand on [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► foot but it was that it was not her [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► reaction it was the it was the crowd's [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► reaction when I touched her foot because [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► apparently they had all been completely [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► traumatized in the past by like even [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► accidentally touching her foot and just [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► like and as a community of foot touching [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► going on here that's it's a little bit [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► outside my range of information all [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► these people what is it about her feet [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► that makes people want to touch them you [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► know I think maybe it was just uh that [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► they were all in college together and [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► you know you're touching time sure you [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► end up in a closet with each other at [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► some point or another [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► and you're like you know trying to try [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► to get comfortable making making shoes [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► into pillows trying to just never let [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► the moment stop yes and and I think that [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► they'd all just had you know or or [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► they'd been in the room when someone [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► else touched her feet and and never you [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► know never wanted to revisit the moment [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► and I was keen I was coming along a [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► little bit later like this was these [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► post-college times I was the nuke I was [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► the new guy yeah [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► boy oh boy but but I also felt a little [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► bit special like I'm the one person that [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► she didn't see yeah you know maybe it's [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► just that you know she she found the one [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► that could touch her feet uh I have I I [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► just don't I found I found the one over [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► and over and none of them could touch my [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► feet in the night hmm [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► and I think I don't know why I mean I [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► don't want blankets on my feet at night [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► I'll have blankets on my feet for [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► different how my feet outer in depending [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► on different positions that I'm in it's [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► not anything I formerly you know like [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► worked out in my mind but like yeah yeah [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► in this position I want my left foot to [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► be out of the covers I do I do that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► quite a bit left left foot out sometimes [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► like the other present when I'm sleeping [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► in like pokes near the pencil on the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► foot and I really bugs me that's a [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► firing offense see that yeah you should [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you should make that your thing mmm we [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► picky about how much you make your thing [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► that's the other part of being in a [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► house with people is that you know you [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► have to be circumspect about I mean easy [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► way to put it is you have to pick your [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► fights right you can't be a pill about [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► everything like you know I've said [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► before I have certain lines in the sand [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► like never move my keys oh like ideally [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► never move my wallet but like that stuff [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► stays here and that's how I keep from [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► going crazy keys and wallet go in the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► keys and wallet place yeah I only got [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► two keys but still I get real panicky if [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► I if I can't find him you know cuz I [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► can't open doors and stuff sure I think [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► you gotta be everybody's got their [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► hang-ups and their hangups is too strong [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► a way to put it but everybody's got a [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► certain way that they are and I think [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► it's I think it's nice [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► to be sensitive to that fact and to not [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► make people feel weird or shameful about [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► like wanting things a certain way unless [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► it really really butts up in a you know [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► irreconcilable way with how you like to [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► do things I am well this is the thing [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► about the touching of the feet right [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► it's not a thing that comes up very [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► often yeah and if you want that to be [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► your thing [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► by all means I'm not gonna lie I'm not [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► gonna and no one should right get try [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► and get up inside your command post and [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► say what's going on here exactly doesn't [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► matter doesn't matter just that that's [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► the job to reprogram people people right [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► products if they've got 40 things like [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► that though it starts to become [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► difficult to accommodate it's like an [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► old person's medicine or like it's it's [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► complicated when you got a heart problem [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► because you got to take medicine but [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► then let's say you get like thin blood [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► and you got to take a blood thinner with [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► that like there's all kinds of weird [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► pharmaceutical synergies and things you [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► want to avoid yeah you know and that can [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► be a real juggling act now if you're a [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► person with what you say 40 60 you got [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► dozens of these kinds of things then [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► your life becomes complicated that's a [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► word that's a word that I keep using but [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► it's it work you know you know what one [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► of my things is I'm saying you're trying [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► to think of my things yeah lock the bolt [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► but don't lock the doorknob okay because [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► that way that way they know the bolt is [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► thrown the the people there are people [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► if they try if they try the the typical [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► door checking pseudo robber is going to [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► jiggle the the door handle and if the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► they are going to assume if the door [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► handle is locked that the bolt is [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► probably not I have not even thought [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► about it that far sorry no no it's at [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► there's no there's no scheme to it [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► there's no rhyme or reason to it I hate [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► when people lock the little the little [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► flipper on the doorknob yeah it just [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► feels it's just an insult to me uh-huh I [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► was like it's like like just closing the [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► door and putting scotch tape on them see [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► yeah right right right exactly but there [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► are people that do it reflexively [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► because they're used to as they leave [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► their a doorknob Locker so they lock the [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► door knob and [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► do the bolt mm-hmm but when I come to my [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► own home and there's been somebody [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► visiting let's say somebody stopping by [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► somebody that's key to my place and I [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► put a hand on my doorknob and my [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► doorknob is locked oh boy oh man you're [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► gonna seem like an abundance of caution [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► probably they want to make sure all the [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► locks are locked it's just a reflex it's [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► the same thing with the toilet seats [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► people you know reflexively do things [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► right that's they they just have a thing [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► that they just that's how they are [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► comfortable and they like I don't [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► believe anybody ever walks out of the [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► house and locks a doorknob um thinking [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► about it very much you know like I see [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► it's just a it's just a fear a doorknob [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► Locker and there I'm sure they're the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► majority people are but uh but I'm not [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► and the reason is if you're a doorknob [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► Locker and the door swings shut then [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► you're locked out of the house huh [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► awesome yeah that's very good points [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► like a hotel room yeah right it's it so [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► did you have your keys on you I don't [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► know I was just going out in the garden [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► to water the peonies and now I'm locked [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► out of the house because somebody came [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► along and is a doorknob Locker and [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► that's not how we do here mm-hmm so I'll [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► you know that's like here to pull up a [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► chair I'm gonna explain this a couple of [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► times so that you don't do it you only [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► the system's I put in place to avoid [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► things like this because like I I [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► frequently I've said this Pierre before [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► I've said this in many other places that [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► I have certain things in life that are a [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► bulwark against madness that there are [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► certain kinds of things that when they [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► happen are so stupid and avoidable that [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► I'm extra double triple careful to keep [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► those kinds of things from happening [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► like you know in this case like you know [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► we've got a okay we've got a clock radio [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► that I like fine I never used the alarm [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► on the clock radio I look at the clock [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► and I listen to KQED that's all I do [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► uh-huh now say one thing about little [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► side note quick side note whenever I [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► turn on a radio I turn on hit the snooze [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► button so it'll turn off automatically [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► in that guidance Brady doesn't stay [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► honest always act like you're not going [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► to be around never set anything down in [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► a bathroom that you wouldn't want to be [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► there overnight right this way when you [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► go to a public restroom you see what I'm [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► saying it's all [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► logic real analytical so so well I like [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► my dream machine I like it fine never [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► use it for an alarm but it has these [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► little flimsy dials on top got two [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► different arms with two different [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► options sure I think it's a dream [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► message if literally a dream machine and [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► so I'm always I'm always batting at it [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► to either hit the snooze to turn on hit [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► the off to turn it off and I'll [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► accidentally hit a knob you see where [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► I'm going with this oh you hit a knob [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► gaffers tape a gaffers tape the dials [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► down so that they cannot move there you [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► that's just like a distortion box you [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► don't have to hear your phone's not [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► swinging around I'm get it you got put [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► systems in place yeah but you know this [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► leads to this hole this is a minefield [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► it's a minefield of rat holes but like [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► you know it gets into stuff I've talked [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► about a lot of other shows but like the [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► whole thing with kids and like I just I [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► know that like when you take your shoes [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► off keep them together keep the shoes [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► together [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► don't take a shoe walk for a while and [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► then take it off on another floor of the [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► house sure you're never gonna you're [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► always gonna be one shoe behind for the [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► rest of your life once you behind one [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► that is no way to live she's never leave [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► a shoe behind that's at the Marine Corps [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► Semper Fi [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► yeah you want you want them they want to [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► be together you want them to be together [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► you're gonna be so much happier [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► healthier and Welsh Aden mmm shot shot [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► right foods in happen I realize that in [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► the system systems that could be systems [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► were you just talking say don't touch [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► John's feet unless it's the afternoon or [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► early evening it's a very simple bit of [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► logic to come here's what here's is what [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► it is when you come home from work you [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► can immediately start touching my feet [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► all the way until we go to bed [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► let's just call it that that's the third [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► of the day that's that's that's that's [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► plenty of opportunity if a foot touching [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► event is going to make your day [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► hakuna matata do it John will welcome it [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► but when John I know that many things [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► you don't think so I think that haven't [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► lived with enough people to realize how [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► many you have from may be true it may be [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► true I like the dishwasher loaded a [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► certain way yes when I'm on a trash [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► taking out the trash no taking out the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► trash I'm very you don't mind if [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► somebody doesn't break down boxes I'm [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► system agnostic there if you want to [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► throw a bunch of boxes in the recycling [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► that somebody down the chain is going to [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► be mad about that [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► I'm only gonna get any notes from me [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► somebody's gonna leave a note interstate [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► but there's me cubic inches of empty [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► space beans now in our limited amount [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► think about Davis sorry for the box [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► don't put his diaphragm in there it says [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► right on the see the lid it says right [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► there don't put styrofoam in there cuz [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► you know what happens they come there 5 [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► a.m. [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► bang bang bang they come to show I know [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► what they do they don't pick it up and [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► they leave you a note and they say you [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► know what like it says in the lid [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► don't put styrofoam in here guess what [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► we got a week now we're starting ok [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► starting with a full recycling container [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► just a simple so simple don't put things [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► into recycling they're not recycling [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► well see I don't share a recycling [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► container with anybody so everything [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► that goes in there is from my own house [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► and I feel like I feel like I'm I'm you [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► know like the whole garbage system I [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it just happens as it happens right [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► let's just let it ride let it ride I [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► mean you know obviously there are some [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► things like don't oh don't leave an open [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► jar of jam on the counter because you're [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► gonna attract ants that's like it that [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► that's a mess that's why when ants [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► that's how you guys just that's just an [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► everybody thing right because that is [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► how you get ants you know don't come [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► around and start adjusting how dark my [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► toaster makes your toast ha ha without [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► sure adjusting it back when you're done [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► right like I don't want to come in in [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► the morning and throw some toast in [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► there and like your Bernie toast person [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► yeah Bernie bro but uh those don't exist [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► don't exist but really you know put it [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► in the middle put it like leave the [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► toaster brownness in the middle unless [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► you have your unfilled out and switch it [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► back you know that's right I do want if [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► you if you wash if do low to wash and it [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► has dress shirts in it or collared [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► shirts let's call them I don't put those [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► in the dryer I hang them up okay let's [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► hear drip dry your big guy you got long [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► arms you don't want this drink it up on [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► you don't want to drink yarn how about [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► us somebody somebody unloads the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► dishwasher puts away the glasses and [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► mugs bottoms up for bottoms down you got [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► a thought I got bottoms up I do always [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► really yeah bottoms up now what about [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► what about copy founder okay wait a [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► minute I I do open part at the top [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► bottom down no I do open part at the [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► bottom like a bar like they're dripping [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► dry on a bar [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► that's right don't you worry and err do [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► you worry about dander on the contact [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► paper no no I mean do you worry about [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► silverfish getting in and making a nest [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► inside your coffee cup have we talked [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► about this no do a silverfish get in [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► your coffee cup no it feels familiar [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► getting deja vu the less you got spiders [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► right for you this makes a lot more [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► sense well but in the northwest we don't [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► have cup spiders oh you don't have cups [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► no that's from that's a different part [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► of the country no I was British indie [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► pop bands from the mid-2000s up spiders [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► got tough spiders you know what I think [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► it is [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► I learned primarily when I was growing [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► up at home my mom had so many systems [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► everything had a fucking she likes [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► things a certain way oh my god and if [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► you did things if you did put the dishes [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► away she would come in and redo it and [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► so what if I kind of get that well sure [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► but I learned at a young age don't [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► bother doing anything and that was not [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► the message she was trying to send oh I [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► see she was trying to teach me like how [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► to do things her way all the way right [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► but what it meant was if I did if I put [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► something and the thing is I had what [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► she got from me when I was a kid was [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► little bins little um what would have [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► been little plastic buckets that you [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► would wash dishes in or something you [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► remember those little lucky sort of sink [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► yeah like a square six inch to a inch [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► deep pan you fill with water right yeah [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► she got me let's say eight of those all [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► in orange rubberized plastic her orange [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► was my favorite color and they fit on [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► bookshelves in my room I see where this [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► is going and she was like here's how you [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► organize your toys and she put all the [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► Legos in one she put all the hot wheels [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► and once you put all the GI Joes in one [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► put all the tinker toys in one you know [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► like this [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► and so I would start playing and I was I [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► was a mix and I was a mixed toys kid you [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► know I would build a Lego fort and then [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► I would the hot wheel cars would be [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► interacting with it the whole day that's [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► a terrific style of play you know they [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► drive up to the Lego fort and then there [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► would be some there would be a tinker [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► toy bridge over to a GI Joe you know [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► this is that this this this and so forth [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► and so she would come in and say clean [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► up your room and I would put these toys [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► together into a bin because they were [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► related at this point I was in the midst [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► of a story and they were all going in [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► the bin because these Legos and these GI [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► Joes right now were related to one [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► another and she would come in and it [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► would drive her bananas because this bin [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► is labeled Legos oh sure I wanted GI [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► Joes in it and so she would she would [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► split it all up she would redo it she [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► would break everything back down to [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► first principles and I was like but I [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► was in the middle of an unfinished story [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► that I was going to come back to and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► maybe for two months the GI Joes would [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► be in the Lego pin but it's you know [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► like I do have a system but it and so [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► eventually I was just like you know what [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► it putting them away is the same as just [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► leaving them out for you to put away [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► because it's not like it's double work [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► like I do the work and then you redo it [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► so why not why don't I just pretend that [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► I that I didn't hear you and I and that [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► really set me in life that wasn't set me [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► on a course for the rest of my life [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► right Lord I just pretend that I didn't [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► hear you and then you can do however you [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► want yeah I mean that probably kind of [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► works you know but but so I didn't [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► really ever put away dishes at home it [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► wasn't my job was to mow the lawn and to [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► vacuum the house but like dishwasher [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► stuff it was just like forget it right [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► there were so many systems around [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► the dishwasher that I just never even [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► looked at it so I learned to put away [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► dishes when I started working in bars [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► uh-huh it's exactly what had happened [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that the first time I really was like [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► the dishwasher which is why I started at [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► every bar job I ever had like you're [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► hired [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► it's your apron there's the dishwasher [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► figure out how it works it's called a [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► Santa Corps or whatever the weather [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► center Santa klore oh yeah big thing way [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► it was like a little house for your [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► dishes yeah you put the dishes in you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► shut the metal door and boss this [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► terrific but you have to load up the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► rack and then you have to go put the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► dishes away so that's where I really [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► learn to put it and I still I put dishes [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► away like I'm working in a bar that make [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► sense I never will what about storing [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► socks oh you just don't know you've done [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► you've done a load of laundry you've got [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► a bunch of socks I'm letting to tell you [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► what I think the options are I bet I [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► could think of at least three options [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► you tell me when you're putting your [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► socks away after they have been [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► laundered do you put them away a certain [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► way and is it important that they be [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► that way well yes [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► socks are I mean the way you do it is [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► you take you find the matching pair you [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► line them up heels together okay right [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► you know like no side side you're not [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► just throwing two socks at each other [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► it's nothing [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► but I'm not somebody that walks around [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► with a pocketful of bills or a wallet [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► full of bills where they're not faced [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► you got to face your fucking bills oh my [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► goodness I when I see people that don't [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► do that I have a two compartment as you [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► know I have a taxi driver wallet with [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► two compartments [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► I keep 20s and one and everything of [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► smaller denomination and the other they [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► are in order by denomination and they're [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► all faced in the going to go in the same [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► direction on every axis anything less [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► than that is to live a life of total [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► chaos I mean but you know what for two [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► hours in Vegas that's okay if you had a [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► theme park you can live with it maybe [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► you don't get oh I'm just doing it you [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► get it but like it's not unusual if [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► you're doing some shopping you're going [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► somewhere you get a pocket full of [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► receipts you get a pocket full of ones [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► and fives usually you may not may not in [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► know you say always stop what you're [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► doing get it right the first time yes if [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► some if I'm in if I am part of a heist [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► and someone hands me an armful of bills [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► like a bushel of them at the very first [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► moment I will stop and face them if you [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► found a gym bag in a tree you take it [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► down [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► number one get him in order well I'd get [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► I'd get out of there [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► I take it out of the hasty retreat being [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► hasty retreat and then when I could look [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► around and there was and I was safe when [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► I was when I'd found a dark alley it was [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► safe I thought from you know I'm not [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► never safe from the Batman but safe I [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► would sit and start facing those bills [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► and you know if I have hundreds and [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► fifties those goes on the twenty side [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► tens fives and ones or it's the last [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► time you had a fifty [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► I carry fifty do they still have those [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► yeah sure you get fifties in my line of [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► work you deal with a lot of cash uh but [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► so yes I mean right your wallet has got [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► you got to be really on top of your [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► wallet or your life will go off the word [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► off the rails and I see people all the [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► time they're just like uh how much is it [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► and they're just it's just like a a wad [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► of cash but not a wad like like a like a [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► money clip and you just in passing this [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► is another bulwark against madness this [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► to me would be like keeping salad forks [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► in the garage and dinner Forks in the [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► Attic except for when you just felt like [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► putting it somewhere else no way to live [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► I walked into an argument in the [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► marriage of Jonathan Coulton and his [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► wife Christine Connor one time well in [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► this happens sometimes when you're close [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► friends with people year you step into a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► to a marriage argument an ongoing [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► situation an ongoing situation and it [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► was a question I think a lot of married [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► couples deal with this do you put the [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► silverware in do you put the forks in [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► the dishwasher tines up or tines damn [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► uh-huh [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► and there were two very strong feelings [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► about it and I think also it was tines [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► up or tines down and do you organize the [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► silverware by type in the dishwasher [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► buckets or do they just all go in and [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► there was definitely strong feelings [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► about all the forks should go together [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► in one thing that way when it's time to [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► unload the dishwasher you just grab them [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► all and they're together can I guess [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► which is which you know what I don't [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► want to get any more in there mayor [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► it's not going it's an ongoing situation [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► but there was a lot you know I had to [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► come back when I the first time I looked [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► at my own dishwasher after that I stood [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► and stared was like would it but it you [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► know these are things I've never had [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► because I'm not married I've never had [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► to argue let's say on the internet you [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► can't unsee it like once you're aware of [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► that of that special wisdom you feel [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► someone you know lacking you know like [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► now for me a lot of this no there's [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► another one it's like we've got one of [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► those are our cutlery holder in the [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► drawer has four uh receptacles for your [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► classic hand utensils knives forks [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► spoons and of exactly so I struggle with [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► that because sometimes I think the tea [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► spoon should be seperti spoons should be [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► separate it means different things the - [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► I I sometimes think about splitting up [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► spoons I sometimes think about splitting [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► up Forks [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► you're talking about but teaspoons or [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► tablespoons yeah but then also I [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► sometimes think about breaking up the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► knives you get a steak knife over here [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► but I've still not that what I do not [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► have a strong opinion on my main thing [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► is usability like I think I think now if [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► you ask somebody else in my house they [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► have a million ways that I'm really [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► screwy but one of mine is I always want [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► the colander to be right here I always [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► want the two cup measuring cup to be [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► there these are things that I use almost [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► every day because you know there was a [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► kid year do a lot of colander work as [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► you probably know yeah four colander [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► colander work is one of the most [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► important facets of having a [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► single-digit child Colin yeah yeah we [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► don't do we don't put it in nesting [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► matroska bowls like don't do that [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► don't put it you know what I'm talking [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► about like there are people who think [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► that storing things should be always [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► like a nested situation where all these [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► are bowls of concentric sizes let's [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► stack them inside of each other what if [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► I want to get the bowl that's sucking [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► from the bottom like what was one of my [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► top tier you know maintenance players [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► yeah I get you I get you the colander in [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► there I need the colander I do a lot of [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► colander work especially in the [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► afternoons when you're getting your feet [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► touched are you [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► have you considered getting a colander [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► just for the child and bespoke daughter [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► colander a daughter colander for her [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► colander needs [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Oh what isn't the kitchen founder it's [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► the daughter Colin we have a little [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► screen e1 that we use for orzo because [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► the orzo would slip through the regular [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► colander right I had not thought about [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► this we need to really pare down there's [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► a lot of stacking going on right now and [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► it's like I don't need more colander you [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► know I just got a new pan that I really [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► like but listen to the pan hot stuff [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► only English people can fuck you sock so [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► you're taking your socks out of the [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► dryer you you find the hair the one [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► thing I want to mention just a point of [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► information for our listeners it's my [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► belief it's my belief on information [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► that you are a sock man you have many [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► kinds of socks I'm a gold-tone man all I [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► got is white gold toe socks and when the [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► ones when some of them get grody I throw [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► those out and they're all mixed up I [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► won't say anything more about myself but [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► I think if for our listeners purposes [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► they should know and you tell me you got [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► a lot of socks you and I talked about [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► gold toes many years ago when we first [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► met 15 years ago we were talking about [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► gold toes because I was wearing at the [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► time some navy blue gold tone they get [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► to you with gold toes at one point you [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► did you hidden my mom is also kind of [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► like you one of these sock utilitarians [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► trying to solve the problem of socks by [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► getting a kind of sock yes and she's [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► done that to me several times over the [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► course of the years like here are the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► socks they're the only socks will ever [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► need again and I'm like well I don't [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► know about that mom I I did not [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► experience because thing is if a sock [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► goes missing [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► I don't experience that as a major that [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► doesn't Buttle me sock meant missing [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► it'll turn up is when I say I actually [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► have like losing Tupperware it's kind of [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► you don't want to do it but it's not the [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► end of your week right I mean that you [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► can always get more that's right you can [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► always get more you can always get more [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► socks but for me socks are I dive [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► they're fun I like socks I like [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► different you know what and the socks [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► are an easy thing to buy [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► as a as a momento here I in London today [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► I don't want to get a little [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► double-decker bus [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► set of salt shakers I don't want to get [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► a thing that says I was in London today [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► but look at that a little pair of socks [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► I'll buy some socks and then from then [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► on you think oh those are the socks that [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► I bought that day in London you're [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► you're creating memories just little [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► things like that like I got you I got [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► you some socks i everybody always wants [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► socks and i and and and every every pair [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► of socks that I pull out of the of the [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► sock drawer I can remember where they [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► came from [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► of course you can right these are the [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► sock from Amazon these are the socks [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► from that time I went to the Natural [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► History Museum and I decided that what I [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► needed was socks oh you know and they're [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► cheap and it's just a little thing and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► then you given every day you walk around [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► it's like oh these socks have owls on [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► them I got them at the at the place not [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► to get them at the owl Natural History [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► Museum mm-hmm but socks have to be [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► paired and then the tops folded down so [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► that they are held together you guys all [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► seems to be clear though you're not [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► making a ball you're making a small but [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► sturdy cuff cuff that's right now how [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► many I mean just you take an average [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► size sock like a men's dress sock how [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► long is your cuff oh I would say never [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► more than a third of the sock mm-hmm [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► somewhere between a quarter and a third [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► of the length of the sock see cuz I come [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► from ballers well and I know and balls [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► are a great idea and I stretchy [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► stretches around seen it work but it [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► does feel stretchy and it feels like [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► then it's a puzzle you have to unwrap [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► every time you we get the size my family [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► always rolled in bald yeah nope we are [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► you know I think I got it from obviously [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► it's a family thing yep but I got mine [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► at like make a cuff fold them over and [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► then you look in the you look in and the [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► thing about them when they're when [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► they're cuffed is that you can see if [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► you can pull a pair out and see if [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► there's any toe or heel wear without [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► having to make a decision right then [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► whether or not you're gonna throw them [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► away looks like having a glass lid on [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► your pie get right in you look right in [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you don't need to lift anything yeah [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► you look right see this is it bulwarks [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► bulwarks against madness I prove this no [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► when you put them in are they hop hazard [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► are they are they stack neatly are you [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► canö lling would you put them in there [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► do you can all mmm that's a very good [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► question there are so many different [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► ways that I could organize my socks I [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► could organize them by color I could [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► organize them by size this is why you [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► need a grant with a penis ID so I do not [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► approve of ankle socks yeah I just don't [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► I don't I don't know why I have such a [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► strong feeling about ankle socks but I [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► just don't approve of them I don't want [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► them in my house I don't want them in my [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► garden if you're wearing short pants to [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► Stan Smith's [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► what kind of sock are you gonna deploy [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► no sock no suck you don't even do like a [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► little grabby inside the shoe sock it [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► don't want those are you feel don't [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► don't approve of them if you're wearing [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► us if you want the no sock look where no [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► socks okay and you also but you also [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► probably rotate your shoes often enough [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► that that doesn't become a problem right [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► I don't want to hurt it okay no no you [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► wear them one time and then you switch [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► them out so like in the summer for [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► instance I have summer shoes like we all [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► do but I have enough of a selection of [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► summer shoes that you know if one of [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► them goes in the lake they can sit on [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► the porch and they're not gonna you know [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► my my progress isn't gonna be impeded [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► okay um yeah like no socks was the thing [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► that I that I did as a kid and I did it [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► into adulthood and I still do it [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► and ankle socks just seem like a like a [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► cheat like an unfair it's unfair it's [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► like a diaper like a foot diaper [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► you know matter like a finger caught for [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► your foot yeah don't wear colored socks [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► with short pants is definitely a thing [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► but I will wear a white athletic sock [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► mm-hmm I think I was wearing a white [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► athletic sock one time at the Chateau [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► Marmont when Jesse thorn crashed our [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► party and he gave me some hell about it [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► but I was wearing a white sock because I [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► was wearing a suit and I say yeah I said [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► show me your socks fancy guy and he [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► lifted up his pants and there were all [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► kinds of there's a bunch of hoes in [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► there or something you know like it was [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► just suits suit stockings and I said [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► Jesse and this was this was the [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► beginning of this whole like can you [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► climb a fence in that outfit yeah right [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► because I climb a fence in this outfit [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► mm-hmm oh you just mind your mind your [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► own penis is Jesse thorn that's right [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► here I'll close yeah um right the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► Rottweilers gonna tear you tear you [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► apart my friend you strike me as [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► somebody who has a large uh well large [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► it's reasonably sized but you have a big [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► wardrobe I don't think of you as much of [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► a graphic tee t-shirt where let me ask [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► you this just in general answer however [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► you want how many t-shirts of whatever [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► variety do you have in regular rotation [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► oh dear [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► dee are you do you wear first of all [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► let's get to be obvious do you wear a [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► white do you wear a t-shirt underneath [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► what what you called a long-sleeve shirt [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► or dress shirt [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► only when I anticipate the prospect of [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► perspiration being an issue in whether [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► or not I look gross or not okay so you [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► don't I I wear a t-shirt under almost [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► everything it might be advanced or it [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► might be a podcast shirt it might be a [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► Mack Walden fancy white shirt but I I [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► always play a t-shirt as my bottom layer [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► always and I'm just not the case for me [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► okay I don't just put a button-down [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► shirt on right over my natural self not [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► anybody fun no socks no undershirt no [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► socks no undershirt but if I'm going you [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► know if I'm wearing a tie I'm going to [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► be wearing a jacket and I have a shirt [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► on and it's going to be a situation [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► where I might like though my lower back [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► might get damp or suck you know if I [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► take the jacket off you'll be able to [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► see that I am that I have perspired I [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► will wear a t-shirt as a bulwark as you [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► said [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► I am okay I have a lot of sediment the [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► reason I started buying socks as [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► souvenirs is that I went through as we [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► all do in rock-and-roll many many years [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► of t-shirts as souvenirs and a thousand [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► t-shirts from the band fiver and a [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► creeper Lagoon and you know the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► Tennessee Valley Authority or whatever [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► up you know just t-shirts everywhere [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► that are very sentimental over time [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► because it's like we did a tour with [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► fiber in 2001 and I'm never going to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► throw that t-shirt away yeah I still [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► wear the fiber t-shirt all the time that [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► was a purchase of all the purges that we [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► have done done the one that was easily [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► the most difficult was getting rid of [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► the t-shirts because I got t-shirts from [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► the mid-80s I mean like but like my my [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► favorite was this dump truck concert [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► t-shirt from like maybe 1989 and it was [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► so disgusting [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► just even knowing that it was in the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► closet upset my wife we're talking pit [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► stains buddy I can put a pit stain on [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► something I think I'm very accurate I [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► know I seem probably very base but but I [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► disagree I do something where it gets [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► orange and hard and a little bit a [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► little permanently moist like a wax [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► buildup and so and it had holes in it [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► but it was a dumptruck shirt it was from [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► the big time bad time to her big time [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► records remember them well sure there [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► are they were hard on some artists but [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► your bad time big data to her yeah that [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► that was hard replacement shirts three [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► replacement shirts like there's all [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► these things but I was like you know [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► what this of all the purge that I do [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► this is the most significant because [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► this is this is where I moved up past [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► the point of pain like I'm really [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► genuinely going to miss my archers of [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► love shirt and I do I still it's been 10 [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► years probably I mean we did this one [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► big purge a couple years before our [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► daughter was born huge purge and the two [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► difficult things we're getting rid of [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► the t-shirts and then I think I told you [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► this one this breaks my heart still we [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► had idiotically put a bunch of our bags [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► to store into a contractor bag and we [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► accidentally threw it away [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► oh yeah no we're talking like vintage [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► Timbuktu bags from the 90s like [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► probably 15 Timbuktu bags you know and [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► you know me in bags right yep you look [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► better you realize that we scurried a [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► little bit to look around like now now [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► now it's gone let it go leave it leave [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► it leave it but the shuttle is the [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► shirts now are we hope you know what Ben [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► Gibbard did no he he solved this problem [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► he took all of his old band t-shirts [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► from a thousand bands and he gave them [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► all to his mom [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► did she make a quilt she maybe quote I [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► thought I should have done that I said [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► she made it she made a rock band quilt [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► and she made a sheep because she she [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► takes the logo out of the t-shirt she [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► backs it with some other fabric sew it [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► so it's you know stable and thick and [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► then she made like a piano cover you [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► know like not just quilts but like [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► things that you you know like covers for [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► things Wow like you know amp cover or [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► whatever made out of old [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► oh that's I get it I see what you're [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► saying [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► little place for your anniversary lip [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► cake right that is all those sexy old [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► band t-shirts it's great it's wonderful [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► it's like what can you say about it it's [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► it's very crafty yeah okay well maybe we [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► should get out maybe we should get out [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► of the closet we could don't we could go [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► to the bathroom we could go to the [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► garage I wish I my bathroom and my [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► garage are both windows on my soul and [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► I'd romatic I don't want people looking [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► in there I know I know I know I felt the [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► same way I can't even have anyone over [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► hmm [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► um I think you sure that I that I got in [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► the mid 80s late 80s mid to late [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► eighties a girl gave me a t-shirt that [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► had a cup of coffee on the front [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► hmm and the coffee it was like a woodcut [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► very it was just a white t-shirt then [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► there was just a cup of coffee and there [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► were three steam lines coming off the [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► top of the coffee and then above it [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► written in a kind of stylized font that [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► maybe ended up being the font that they [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► used on the TV show friends you know [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► kind of like a hand-drawn font mm-hmm it [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► said regular see I was hoping was going [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► to say coffee but I liked [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► regular even better regular regular oh [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► that's good that is that is uh that's [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► pregnant Prague not says the Germans say [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► pregnant with meaning Prague nuts lug [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► nuts [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► and so at the time a lot of our [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► listeners are not going to be able to [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► fathom this but at the time in 1988 to [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► wear a t-shirt that had a cup of coffee [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► on it and it said regular mm-hmm was [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► pretty fucking out there that's pretty [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► out there that was really really [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► alternative and I was pretty proud of [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► how alternative it was because it [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► communicated to people that I was [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► nobody's you know that I was not some [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► spring chicken you know it's not your [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► first day right like I'm I'm not new and [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► because you're gonna sure with a coffee [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► cup on it this is regular it says [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► regular mm-hmm you found out so I pulled [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► that t-shirt out when I needed to what I [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► needed to you know come correct when I [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► needed to enter a scene I totally had [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► those shirts I'd that's why if you look [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► at photos of the birth of my daughter [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► around that that morning I'm wearing my [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► favorite shirt at the time my silkworm [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► shirt though I had to bring my a-game [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► yeah I was wearing a shirt when my [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► daughter was born that I that at the [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► time was just like whatever shirt I had [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► on and now the shirt has tremendous [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► significance to me but it's like not one [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► of my favorite shirts I don't hate it [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► it's a fine shirt yeah but it would have [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► been a shirt that got purged at [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► somewhere along the line if it hadn't [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► been imbued with all this hyper [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► significance yeah now it just sits on a [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► hanger and I look at it and I go well I [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► can't wear that shirt but I also can't [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► give it away no I you know what I think [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► you get a pass on that one yeah I did [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► get rid of that silk warm shirt though I [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► know I know but see this is when you get [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► to that point and so like now I'm really [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► trying to I'm not a minimalist I'm not [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► damn Benjamin but I try really hard to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► like keep things kind of organized like [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► these are the white t-shirts and I call [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► those I will go through what I would [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► call the white t-shirts if I see pit [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► stains got to go right I've got the like [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► the podcast shirts the Squarespace [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► shirts I got like four Squarespace [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► shirts [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► those are great like go to daily shirts [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► at four fantastic four shirts those are [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► all deployed in their own little special [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► containers then I got the long sleeve [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► t-shirts this is the critical part of my [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► wardrobe Oh long sleeve tees are very [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► tricky to pull off Merlin you know Mac [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► Walden they make it they make a really [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► good it's costly but they make a very [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► good see for me that's not about the [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► underpants Mac Walden they're not a [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► sponsor this episode they should be but [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► but I know I those are the date I was [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► really pleasantly surprised by there [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► because I'm wearing one of their French [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► terry hoodies as we speak Oh French [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► terry hush Terry hoodie you know it's [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► it's funny because it used to be back in [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► the 70s and 80s that the ladies got all [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► of the like thin soft really appealing [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► little hoodies and the boys had all [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► these super thick chunky hoodies chunky [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► hoodies that's how I feel when I wear my [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► extra-large Roderick on the line hoodie [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► it's very it's it's it's like wearing a [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► blanket yeah it's a bits a big blanket [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► hoodie and that was all the hoodies that [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► I ever had but then when I started [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► spending a lot of time in San Francisco [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► and I started thrifting in San Francisco [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► and let me let me just say that I know [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► that sounds like it wouldn't be that [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► good and it often isn't but every once [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► in a while you do stumble on a thing I [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► came into possession of a couple of [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► extra large sized but thin soft you know [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► like like Gama lean little uh hoodies [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► that were just like just like t-shirts [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► basically except they were hoodies and I [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► started wearing them around and then all [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► of my lady friends would see them from [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► across the room be like where did you [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► get that hoodie say oh you know I found [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► it but why and they're like we can't [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► find hoodies like that anymore for [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► ladies now that now that guys have all [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► the soft hoodies and and the lady [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► hoodies are so I don't know something [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► they're like into some it's not a thing [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► or or something I don't know what it is [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► huh but I am I have been the envy of [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► several of my lady friends because of my [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► collection now of very soft small [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► hoodies [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► small but like bin you know like 9:02 [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► mean I don't like a light a light weight [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► not pointy not bulky material a hoodie [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that you could wear under something oh [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► no that's that's a tough call you know [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► like I dunno yes [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► it's almost like it's like an advanced [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► t-shirt material yeah hoodie that you [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► put on under a jacket like it should be [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► like an Opie shirt okay right right [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► I think Opie made shirts like that their [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► college long-sleeve t-shirt with a hood [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► well okay so now okay so I can't go [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► there because that's to dr. Zog sex wax [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► well but never Niles bone but something [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► make a long-sleeved t-shirt is a really [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► tricky game because I have several and [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► the long sleeve t-shirts that I that I [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► get away with are one of them is from [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► Portland's um like Japanese garden hmm [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► one of them is a not a surf long-sleeve [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► t-shirt which I never would have thought [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► worked but it did one of them is from [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► the US Arctic National Research Council [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► one of them is from a like Homer Alaska [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► and there's just there just a few of [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► them that I can that that the pass [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► because the danger of a long-sleeve [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► t-shirt is it's one it's like two inches [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► of fabric away from a mock turtle you're [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► right you're right and sometimes you get [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► a crew that's a little tight if you're a [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► little tight in the crew it gets it gets [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► into like you like the rock yes you do [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► look like the rock and it's really [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► tricky you know you can't just say [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► because there was a there was a time one [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► of my very first encounters with B I [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► have solved the clothing problem was in [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► 1987 my friend Bob wood came back to the [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► dorms and Bob said you guys Eddie Bauer [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► in downtown Spokane is having a big sale [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► and they have these shirts [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► and he held one up and it was a long [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► sleeve but it was made out of like uh [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► this like miracle fabric it was hundred [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► percent cotton right but it was at the [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► time all we wanted was clothes that were [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► really beefy beefy was our watchword [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► uh-huh [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► is that beefy yes it's beefy all right [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► cuz the beef test it's beefy and this [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► was a thing where it was like this shirt [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► was very beefy and he said they're [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► having a sale on these they're like nine [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► dollars each and they have them in every [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► conceivable color and so I mean we're in [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► college this isn't it's not a group of [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► guys that you're typically gonna think [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► like let's go to the mall but we all [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► jumped on our mountain bikes and we rode [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► to Eddie Bauer they were having a [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► massive sale and this was any Bauer [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► before they became became terrible this [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► was Eddie Bauer back when there were [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► still canoes in the store and they're on [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► the sale rack there it was an entire [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► wall I remember it like it's yesterday [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► entire wall two whole racks top and [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► bottom and there were two kinds of [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► shirts [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► there were mock turtle necks and there [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► were regular crew necks all made out of [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► the same piece of material and seriously [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► in every color light cream pink orange [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► green blue [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► you know uh like plum like and they were [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► all 80s colors and we all like our minds [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► were blown and we all felt like for like [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► I think they were even cheaper than nine [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► dollars they were so cheap [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► we just felt like for a $50 investment I [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► will never have to think about clothes [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► again mm-hmm you know we had that [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► libertarian moment of just like I mean [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► it's all just punch of that's very very [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► appealing and I bought eight shirts and [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► I got mock Turtles mixed in I got like [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► three mock Turtles and five crew necks [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► because at the time mock Turtles seemed [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► like they all so soft a problem it was [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► like a turtleneck but without all the [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► extra it's not you talking the 90s this [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► is 87 ex I'm so bright in the early 90s [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► in the barn jacket era uh there's a [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► little bit of a vote for a slight mock [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► turtleneck on a fella well I mean if you [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► think about the early if you if you look [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► at the opening sequence of friends not [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► to talk about friends two times in a row [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► but I think Joey is wearing mock turtle [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► necks a lot of the time Joey really [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► liked a mock turtle when I first moved [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► to Seattle there was a punk band called [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► mock turtle but they spelt it ma CH mock [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► turtle as in make turtle as in well like [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► Michelle Michelle or like mock one ma I [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► get it that's good [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► okay that's their logo was a turtle with [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► like a jet engine coming out of its butt [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► or something [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► oh they were a punk band sure but I did [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► have these mock Turtles and wore them [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► until about 91 when it when it obviously [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► then had become it was no no longer felt [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► like a adventure sports solution to a [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► problem and felt like the beginning of a [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► whole new problem that it was a Joey [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► problem now and so I had my mom take the [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► mock turtle part off yes so no just so [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► regular calling let's take the turtle [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► part I said we I swear to you I still [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► have three of those eight shirts okay [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► and they are [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► they are shredded but I can go when you [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► fight when you finally find something [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► that's that's what you really want it's [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► so hard to let go we wore those shirts [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► with such pride we had solved every [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► problem we had the shirt just can't get [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► those days back I had those kinds of [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► like internal moral panics when I like I [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► finally find a pair of like slick shoes [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► that I like alright this was a huge deal [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► in 80s when like if you found a pair of [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► shoes that you would like and it was a [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► name-brand shoe there's a pretty good [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► chance that within the next year it [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► would be really different or even gone [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► yeah Nike made this kind of shoe when I [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► was in my first first probably or maybe [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► second pair of Nikes the Nike dynasty do [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► you remember that no tell me more early [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► 80s long as you define it for you the [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► dynasty so this is the red swoop era but [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► no buy for that is before that really [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► and these were so dope can't you see now [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► of course now all look like all those [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► other shoes now like then all those neon [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► like din ah look at this look at this [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► guy Texas - you sure oh my gosh shit [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► don't make me look at myself I'm waiting [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► I'm standing with the catcher's mitt [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► waiting for this text come on there it [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► is clicking on it oh what a shoe and [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► look at that what is easy [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► Oxford's way to see the Oxford's I had [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► two pairs of these oh I love that [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► I love that fabric that I know the mesh [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► mesh Oh terrific I was gonna use a [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► picture of the rock for show art this [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► week totally putting in the dynasties oh [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► man show me the Oxford's yeah should [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► come in a second look at that I need a [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► warm swoosh on the tongue I'm having a [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► I'm having a strange flashback yeah what [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► well I never had these because these [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► would have been way way way too cool it [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► was my box yeah my mom would not have [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► sprung for these but I am having a [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► flashback of envying these so these look [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► like Stan Smith's [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► look at these I don't think at the zone [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► pretty relatively fat laces a mesh with [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► suede around the toe and the heel blue [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► on the inside and a blue swoosh and I [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► wear these every day today if they made [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► these how do we get these I don't know [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► if I gotta go on eBay [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► no but I don't want some old ones I like [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► how do we get it how do we get them [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► remade you know this is a Kickstarter [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► could we just say start giving us money [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► so the Nikhil make these how that works [TS]