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353: Young Sexy Harry Mudd

 

00:00:01   the Intolerable number 353 may 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1">TS</a>]

00:00:10   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/10">TS</a>]

00:00:13   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   incomparable we're doing a flash podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   here to talk about trailer that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   people are really just desperately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   wanted us to talk about that uh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   Star Wars trailer and we're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   instead we're gonna talk about the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   Trek Discovery trailer that got released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/25">TS</a>]

00:00:26   this week sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   Star Wars fans but hey Star Trek fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   we're gonna talk and speculate a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   bit about the much promoted and not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   you know much delayed but now we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   something to talk about about Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   discovery joining me to talk about Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   Trek discovery are these wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44   people David Jay Laura hello hey may the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   force be with you Jason thank you David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   and also with you Tony Sindelar is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   there hello hi hi Scott McNulty is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   because he's a Star Trek expert and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   don't like to talk about Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56   without him this is a non random Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   for you Scott that is true this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   carefully selected Trek and for Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/60">TS</a>]

00:01:03   Wars fans the trailer starts off on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   desert planet and you Star Wars people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   love district planets right yeah totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   Moises Giuliana's here hello Jason snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   my old friend none of this would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   happened if Gene Roddenberry were a lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   sure he'd be Ferriero that very very old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   and again another one of my Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   ringers Brianna Wu is back hello what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   up I has been we were born to sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/85">TS</a>]

00:01:29   death and that's why I'm here I'm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   comprable today that's good are you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   feeling good about the are you stating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   off death or are you welcoming death by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   doing this I I'm welcoming it okay good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   let's let's do it good that's all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/102">TS</a>]

00:01:43   all for the best so we got we got two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   two minutes and 24 seconds of a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   Trek trailer to talk about Jason I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   we've done two minutes and 24 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   alright thanks everybody for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   let everybody keep your real nerds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   that's good everybody signed off that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   great we do start out on a desert planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   so I guess we should talk about that icy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   desert planets in Star Trek and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   Vulcan but it could be Vulcan it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   be something totally different I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   don't know why they'd be walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   in the desert on Vulcan and being lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   but that's where we meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   the the two characters here we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   Michelle Yeoh as Captain George Yeo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   also we have our series leads in equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22   art and green as Michael Barnum and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   are walking across the desert having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   chat about Burnham's career prospects as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/145">TS</a>]

00:02:29   you do I should do she doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   she doesn't have a star to guide her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   because they're in a cloudy desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   that's right they Lindy they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   have tricorders which I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   would help them if they were lost but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   I'm assuming it's a sandstorm of yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   interference Scotty yeah the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   billowing clouds suggest that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   she actually glances over her shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   one point is like like why are we out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   here we're before tos and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   enterprise all bets are off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   well that's are off so it's Arrakis oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   the spice must flow so I'm not sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03   this that that there isn't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   that whether this is linear or not but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   think it's an interesting introduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   since since Burnham is going to be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   main character throughout the show we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   get to see her talking to her captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   now what what they said in PR which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   guess we should believe is that Michelle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   iya is being it she's the captain of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   Shenzhen and that that's supported by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   this trailer and that's a Western show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   Sorry Sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   Shenzhen is is where about whether big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/212">TS</a>]

00:03:32   it's the Shenzhen Jojo name you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   of the Chinese of the Chinese space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   burger and there's a little robot that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   got a Shinjo like label on it later for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   like a half a second which suggests that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   that brilliant that Liu Sheng Joe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   well Star Trek is all about the branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   so this is this is obviously from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   beginning of the first episode because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   the idea here is that this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   Burnham starts but she doesn't end here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   she will go on to beyond the titular USS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   Discovery at some point none of which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   see we see in this trailer so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   that about it that it doesn't seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   spoiling its entire premise by by what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09   it shows us in this first teaser it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   not we don't even see the the starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   discovery in the teaser at all yeah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   the captain or the composedly yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   III don't mind I don't mind being teased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   and not having the entire pilot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   show strip-mine four parts to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   Oh totally I approve yeah that's good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   what people think about this the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   want you want to break it down bit by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   bit we've got to start the desert if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   do that if you gotta do it let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   take it stick in order that's right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   will say that there was a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   Twitter thread that I liked that Liz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   Myles who's often on our podcasts did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   about how just she's blown away by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   fact that the very first thing we see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   two women of color having a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   about their career in so it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/291">TS</a>]

00:04:55   men passes the Bechdel test immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   and she's like this is modern Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   and it is pretty cool um so what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   what do people think about this a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   little desert walk that ends with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   surprise Kirk like almost like a ha but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   I can call a spaceship and then we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   night I loved it but yeah that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   was a big overriding feeling for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   whole trailer that we only get more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   as we go which is that it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   some of the cool nifty sci-fi stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   we've gotten in other mediums while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   we've been waiting for a news Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   series to exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:29   yeah Bri would you think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   opening well obviously I'm very psyched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   uh you know I was out I was out trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   to get of town and I was working on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   car and I get this frantic call my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   husband's phone and I pick it up it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   neighbor and he's so upset about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   Star Trek trailer I thought it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   absolutely terrible and he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   blasting me I'm like oh go inside Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   and I watch it and it was the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   like you see two women of color talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   to each other and I was just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   is great this is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   it does worry me I am of the opinion the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/361">TS</a>]

00:06:05   Voyager is held in low regard by most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   Trek fans because of unconscious sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/367">TS</a>]

00:06:10   I think a big part of it is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   didn't actually why I also agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   that well to be fair the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   was not good I I don't agree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   so I worry about I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   I worry in talking about the show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/380">TS</a>]

00:06:24   politicizing it from the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   of it and I'm I'm hyper excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   this like this is like I fought for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   so hard in my own career it's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   this is Star Trek in 2017 and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   they're not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   this opening scene because they're women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   that's the thing that is just irrelevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   they're Starfleet officers having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   conversation about her career the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45   fact that Michelle Yeoh is is playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   Starfleet captain and not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   Starfleet captain who shows up in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   episode of something to say oh hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   Captain Picard how's it going yes we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   help you with this blockade run that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   you're doing the the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   United Federation of Planets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   right off the bat feels like the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   Federation of Planets with humans from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   Earth that aren't just from the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   States and a couple of their funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   friends from other continents every once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   in a while having her front and center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   feels like the exact opposite of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   tokenism right off the start because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   yeah she has the poise and presence of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   Starfleet captain whether we see her at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   the forefront of this show as it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   forward I mean we know that Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   Burnham is is supposed to be our lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   but her having a prominent role whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   we see a little of her or a lot of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   she has the kind of presence that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   literal cinema legend that to me was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   the thing that just as we get this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   breadth of things that that really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   really made me feel good in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   looking at the demographics of planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   Earth and humans on planet earth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47   the fact that Star Trek has like not had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   a whole lot of Chinese participation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   over the years to have Michelle Yeoh as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   a captain to have the shinzo as the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   it's a big deal I like like it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   it's not logical that humans leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   Earth would be largely Americans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   Europeans right it should be a broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   worldview and so this a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   having Chekov beyond the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   enterprise looks like oh of course there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   should be Russians in space so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   added Chekov it's like yeah because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   you know you're a government stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   yeah like he was a big deal to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   first man in space whatever so to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   Chinese presence and Starfleet here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   right out of the bat it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30   smart it's the way the way it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   Tony what do you think of this opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   any any any thoughts in the desert and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   with the reveal of the ship coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   through the dust storm I guess I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   it's a dramatic you know if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   trailer magic where you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   what's going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/525">TS</a>]

00:08:46   is the context right like are they in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   dire straits wandering through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   sandstorm or you know or they just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   doing their job are they talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   this because this might be the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   conversation they ever have or this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   just you know they don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   time away from the rest of the crew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   she wants to impart this wisdom before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   they beam up so exciting and fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   introduction to these two characters we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   get some we get some transporter being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   action too which is nice yeah yeah Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   what do you think of the transporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   beam in particular been offended you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/556">TS</a>]

00:09:20   you found a sign or anything else about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   the desert I thought it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   I did think about the transporter beam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   because that's the kind of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   nerd that I am I'm with you and so an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   enterprise they established the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   that transporters not so reliable they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   are still trying them out they don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   them a lot so I was happy to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   this is ten years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   I forget how what the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41   enterprise in the original series is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   this is ten years before the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:45   so clearly the kinks have been worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   out yeah I did like that so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   like there's like a grid that appears on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   the the targets of the transporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   which I thought was a cool effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   them a little traditional swirl around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   so thumbs up on the new transporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   effect nice that's right I company also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   like the new Klingons so come at me yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/601">TS</a>]

00:10:05   yeah I'll get there is we do get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/605">TS</a>]

00:10:09   following there's some there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   voiceover and we see we we see Burnham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/611">TS</a>]

00:10:17   on the bridge of her ship looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   this is uh this is michelle yeoh ship do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   we do we do we have the lengthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   discussion about the the meanings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   uniforms now or do we save that friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   I think we got to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   uniforms right now I think this is sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   I'm but you know no you're right is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   is it I bet everybody who is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   Starfleet uniform in this caste doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   understand how lucky they already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   pockets the uniforms because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   back in the day being in Starfleet meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   not having any pockets and wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   body sock I assumed in the in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   I would not have any personal items I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   would not need any pockets personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   items like hands where do hands go okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   I've seen some people being bummed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   about how it they don't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   original series and while I would love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   show that just fully embraced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   original series aesthetic nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   would Jason Jason what what you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/666">TS</a>]

00:11:10   need on a starship is a velour sweater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   this feels a little more like uh taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   the enterprise design and evolving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/677">TS</a>]

00:11:21   forward toward I think like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   toward the JJ Abrams Star Trek design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   it's it's modern but there's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   sort of familiar um and there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   a theme for I think many of us perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   is its different and I'm okay with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   being different but what do you think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   all think of a lot of blue a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   little kind of Gold's gold stripes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   that famous emblem and as like a zipper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   it kind of made me think of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   Nick Nick Meyer is involved in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   he was the one who sort of said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   what let's forget the motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   costumes and let's go naval and military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   and all that and I think that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   might be a little bit of his influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   saying all right the enterprise uniforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   kind of made sense but let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   something a little nicer and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   almost feels like it would evolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   eventually into the Wrath of Khan era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   Wow you know Jim I haven't thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   that but I think maybe you're right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   leo blue version that's headed toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   the Wrath of Khan kind of costumes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   right clothes I think that this also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   doesn't necessarily preclude the notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/737">TS</a>]

00:12:21   that ten years from now the right middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   manager inside of Starfleet middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   management decided you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   everybody's always complaining they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   their uniforms to be less stuffy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   want to be more relaxed so they go they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   have not too many pockets yeah too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   pockets I mean do you want a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   texture black slacks keys and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   everybody gets a cup I got a deal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   these colored shirts so no we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   go in that now you know it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   that you know you can wear a girdle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   it'll look really good yeah and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   an alternate rap for the captain's who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   are large right right so something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   think is really interesting to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   about when you last television series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   came out you know like CRTs were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/777">TS</a>]

00:13:02   main way that most of the saw you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   Star Trek I mean when Enterprise came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   out we were just barely like moving into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   LCD and you know higher def formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   so something I notice is if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   look at a Star Trek costume like from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18   Voyager or TNG on ebay it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/798">TS</a>]

00:13:22   have the pop of a movie costume so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/802">TS</a>]

00:13:26   look at this I see a live texture in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29   fabric detail is just subtle it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   it's it's cutting the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   like a more pragmatic like jumpsuit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37   you might wear in space and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   like a movie costume so I I like it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   think it's splitting the difference just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   like you said Jason and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   awesome I need a costume thoughts we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   cannot get it out now let it out let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   your inner cosmic there are pips pips on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   the badges I like the design I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   would I miss the the you know using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   color to indicate what what their role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   is right unless everybody that we see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   has the same role I like the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   dramatic but I do like the use of color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   but well they they have different colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   I think because the alien but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11   it's the dance color right yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/851">TS</a>]

00:14:15   they have like those stripes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   different colors I think yes yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   your rank insignia kind of thingy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   think we have we have our first glimpse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   of a cannon character in the net very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/863">TS</a>]

00:14:29   next shot which is CEREC who's played by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   james frain here he has a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   with Burnham in a couple of places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/875">TS</a>]

00:14:39   we'll get more of Surak later there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   a couple of cannon characters that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   existing Star Trek characters that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   going to be dropping into discovery at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   how does every feel about you know 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   years 10 years away from original series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   you get to sort of do this younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   version of characters we saw in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   original series thing in Serac's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   example how does everybody feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   about this approach of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/903">TS</a>]

00:15:07   enterprise was harder to do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   with with discovery they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   able to do it and this is we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   new Sarek who's got obviously a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   connection to our main character which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   is kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18   I can't wait for young sexy Harry Mudd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   mean I know I'm not alone I I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/920">TS</a>]

00:15:24   think that Harry Mudd was something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   needed more of in my life I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   was free of that and here it comes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   how do you how do you filled by Rainn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   Wilson that's me that's me trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   send Harry Mudd off into the Delta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   Quadrant and as far away from this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   possible yeah hoping for it means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   they just won't even touch it I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   understand how that happens yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   but Zarek i think makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   when i heard that they were doing this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   was like oh that's kind of cool right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   cuz welcome to live a long time and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   would have been in an important position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   at that point this is you know 10 or 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   years before journey to Babel yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   he can be a mentor figure and I mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   doesn't have to be the focus of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   but he can be he can be a nice tether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01   where as Harry Mudd it's like why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   why why well we we have this plot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   sexy androids and who how would we how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   would we make sexy androids believable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   if we didn't have Harry Mudd it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   doesn't work and so here we are the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   presence of Sarac ties this to the canon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   in a way that that in the first glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   that this is makes me feel good about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   because with the weird divorce of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   Star Trek franchise where all the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   stuff is in CBS's hands and the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   or on Paramount's hands and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   a weird like Marvel TV versus movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   sort of a thing I'm much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   comfortable with the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   the Canon side of things where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   at once visibly doing some new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   different things both aesthetically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   you know just with it the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   they're telling the story where it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   15 episode show in sort of like 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   episodes of season I like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   seeing that mix of things that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   distinctly trying new things and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   they are not afraid to dig into you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:01   what when we get to the Klingons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   with stuff that could be some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   weird big time like deep cut Trek nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:09   lore type of stuff but and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   the thing that it really excited me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   the beginning was when when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   announced Bryan Fuller is going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16   this and it's like yeah Bryan Fuller god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   has got to start on Voyager and he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   trek nerd and he is he knows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   it's not like one of these people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   goes oh yes I was hired I've never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   an episode of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   like Nick Meyer loved him but he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   never seen Star Trek before Wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   Khan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   and so you know I was I was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   some deep cuts and I'm glad to see we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   gonna get them I love that kind of world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   building and I if it's done really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   uh it should be alright even Harry Mudd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:49   I'm okay with Harry Mudd and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   how sweet see how it's done I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   don't understand why we keep returning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   to this era you know like Tos is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:00   but you know Enterprise went back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   and then you've got the movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   all around this era am i the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:07   that like wants to find out more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   like what happened to the Borg after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   Voyager what happened to the Dominion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   after ds9 I mean I want us to I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18   find out the next chapter of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   and it's it's sort of frustrating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   that every time again new Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   property it seems to be going backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   in time like where's the faith that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   ventures that are coming next or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   know worthwhile why do we keep like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   retreading these same concepts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   it just it feels like this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   everything we've done yet pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   this it turned the millennium there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   credible rumors that went around right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   when the show was being announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   this was going to actually be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   anthology show which it doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   be necessarily but I agree like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:54   the things that struck me as odd was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   again we're going back in time again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   we're going back to origin story ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   kind of territory rather than just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:04   on the back you know even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   going to 10 20 years in the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   Voyager why not do that you know why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:13   say that all of the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   forward stuff is yet to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   you know what why are they telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   story is a big question for me but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   know again like I'm cautiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   optimistic to where I trust that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   know I I have a very soft spot in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   heart for mirror universe episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   I would love to a mirror universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   episode II house new show I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   to see I would love to see this crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   somehow end up 150 years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   and be like the the USS Bozeman showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:41   up in TNG with with beardy mcfreak rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:45   captaining it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   forward through time and having to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   with having missed a ton of history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   be a crew out of time that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   that they haven't really done with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   of these crews they've displaced them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   you know a quadrant away in Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   they've put them on not a Federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   Starship Enterprise with you space 9 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   I'm with you in that I would I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   like something different and at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   at the base level I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   getting some of that and I would just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   want them to not feel like they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   to hedge their bets and just let loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   and go nuts and maybe they might I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   and we still don't know what if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   a second season what that second season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   will be since the pattern right now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   anthology series seems to be a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   season and then something new so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   might still do that we don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   yeah I think part of the reason we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   come back to the the same era is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   because when most people around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   world think Star Trek they think Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   Spock McCoy there's no there's no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   Star Trek those are other things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   might not even know them and and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:47   a calculated thing on the studio's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   I'm with you I want to see more I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   to see the future I want to see 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   after Voyager I want to see those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   who grew up in Starfleet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1256">TS</a>]

00:21:00   hearing about the stories of Janeway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   Cisco and all that I think it's fear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   the executive level in part I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   think Bryan Fuller had a thought he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   a good idea of something that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   calls back but I think the allure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   Kirk Spock McCoy era is also buttress by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   this fear that people think of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   and they think of that and that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   make a show that is at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   Canon as its established that they worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:26   like will it only appeal to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   who've seen all of the other shows will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   it you know will they have to invent new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   villains because if you keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   Klingons as the villains and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   Romulans where you don't have to evolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   it at all although then you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   weird things to get things like the Borg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   involved so I think it I think it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   fear then again it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   surprising because maybe good idea from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   Bryan Fuller here but like the lessons I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   think this was a hard lesson of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   enterprise that once you're in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   that's deep in the Canon and this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   set in the movie alternate universe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   is said in the prime television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   basically to Moises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   point cannon universe like well at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   point it's it's much harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   contradict cannon and you have to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   like no we can't show the Romulans faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   or we can't show the Borg unless we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   cheat and even Enterprise tried to cheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   a little bit but it was really hard yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   I think it's harder to make a show when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   you've got this established cannon going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   on so that III agree I think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   fear that is preventing them from going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   further in the future and it's too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   because I'd much rather see a next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   next-generation then yeah then then sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   of retread over the same 20-year 30-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   period again and again but deep space 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   this is where we are this is uh we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   get a view of this crew and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   some interesting kind of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   design things here there's a guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   like a thing wrapped around his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   there's another guy who's got like stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   going up the side of his face and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   there's Doug Jones as a regular on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:55   show lieutenants aru who is the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   later will tell us as he sends his death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   which people were laughing at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   dialogue it's like I I could tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   what the context of that dialogue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   that it's not quite at this point but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   comes later which is you know his speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   he's gonna say his species evolved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10   they were they were prey species and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   they learned to have this ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   sense you know when when they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   to be attacked and I think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   you know it's creepy but I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   there's probably a context that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   a little less silly that you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   in a trailer yeah it's a little goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   yeah it's still it's still a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   theatrical a little bit silly I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   but it's a science fiction universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   where matter can transport from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:33   place to another with a minimal of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   instead of weird you know weird and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   face design is kind of fun it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   a thing on his forehead which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   cool right so this at this point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   trailer is were just sort of forwarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   they find an unknown object and Birnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50   basically gets out in a spacesuit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   fires off her thrusters to go find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   unknown mysterious object that obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   is the thing that sets off the plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   this show yes this is I think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   very Star Trek II scene right there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   it's an unknown object and we can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   leave it we have to go look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   because that's what we do and then let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   hop into our motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   pack yeah and fly through the the cosmos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:18   and get to this weird thing yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19   an asteroid belt over there and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   gonna fly over to it we're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22   gonna scan it from a distance that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   lame yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   I need to touch it our scanners aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   that good we have to do we have to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   somebody over we gotta go over there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   look at it write a report headed back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   Starfleet and it looks like it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   like from the next scene that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   there's a there's a lot of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   stuff happening over there this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   edited together with some other shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   that suggests that maybe there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   there's Klingon involvement and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   alien involvement in that but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   it's a bunch of quick cuts and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   unclear there's some kind of alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   ceremony that there's a quick cut of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   that III was unclear if that was Klingon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   or not it it looked ambiguous it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   sort of a Klingon ceremony and as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   I can tell the object that they find is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   this sarcastic saying you know I read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:06   couple of articles and you know I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   be as skeptical of what people write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   about the stuff as possible because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   I find myself in my head Canon agreeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   with what somebody just puts forward as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   a fact that may or may not be but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   at least a close enough visual match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   with the minimum amount of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   they're showing us in this that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   the thing that they find and I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:25   I feel I feel like they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   heavily hinting at yeah this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   thing that works a bunch of Klingons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   into into surrounding this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   Federation ship and it's a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   object to this sarcophagus or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   it is is a meaningful Klingon object and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   they want it and our crew finds it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   bunch of Klingon symbols appear on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:48   the the screen of the ship suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   that Klingons are attacking and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   that's scary and then we get a shot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   guy whose name is Takuma which is Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:01   Obi and he is he is the the Klingon with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05   the with the you know it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   different Klingon look so I guess we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   should talk about the Klingons you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10   one of the problems with Klingons is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   that the original Klingons were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   let's get some guys with beards some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   facial hair and that's what a Klingon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   will be and then in next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   they're like well we're going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21   little more makeup and we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   a little bit more which was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   following on the motion picture the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   trek into darkness Klingons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   are also a little bit different and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   Enterprise tried to explain all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33   and say well there's the augments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   there's two versions and all that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   and it's this great thing that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   doesn't make any sense we do not speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   of it right the best thing that any Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   Trek ever did was have Worf just say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   don't don't even here here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   is I feel like this show maybe is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   to speak of it here's the thing I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   not either they're gonna speak of it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   they're gonna lean in and on this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   I'm hoping is they're gonna lean into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   the idea that you know what every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   we show the Klingons they look different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   it's because it's a different show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   the makeup is different and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   better in designing these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   like just you got to go with it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   like why do why aren't we wearing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   pajamas from the original series because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   it's a different show and you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   to go with it it's not a photographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   representation of what really happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   because it's a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   why does the interior of the TARDIS look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   different with each dot yeah so I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   of going with that which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   historical records from this era or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   sketchy you know how do you solve how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   you solve the problem of like are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   guys with beards or are they people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   bumpy heads and the answers we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   make totally new ones and then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   really not gonna know what the Klingons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   are but yeah moisés it is also true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   they may try to explain that I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   want them to not but maybe they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   well here's the thing is I I see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   being able to go almost a half measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   and and speak to the divide in in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   Klingon homeworld between the the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   who look like Takuma and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   look like the the racial appropriation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:56   half fu-manchu's half Russian Jung ons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   of the original shows the ones like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   know the Romulans and Riemann's sorry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   bring back memories of Nemesis I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   think we're gonna talk about that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   no yeah that's really uncalled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   really unfamiliar with this trip my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   tests show me on the on the Nemesis DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   where it hurt you yes okay the whole DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   hurt me that's where but there yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   mean there's you know again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   they're going with the TV the TV Canon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   of things and the deep Canon of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   kinds of stuff the untold story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   past of Star Trek lore that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   interest me that yes okay we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   billion Klingon episodes in Deep Space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   nine and there are people who hate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   I love them you know there is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41   to be explored in looking at at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:45   relatively early stage of the Federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   dealing with Klingons in in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:51   establishes a way to move forward with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   them where they don't necessarily have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   to look one way or another way or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   can look half way between or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:01   you can you can keep as much or use as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   much or throw out as much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   production design as you want as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   behooves you to make something look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   on high-def 4k TV screens in the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   2017 as opposed to what looked totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   fine on a CRT in 1968 what I have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   makes me trust whichever direction they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   go whether they give in to the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   that I'm kind of okay with them doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   like the deep the deep lore like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   know not to say this is the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   describe the kind of schism but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   difference between Sunni and Shia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35   Muslims that kind of major major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:39   conflict within a specific culture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   is something that I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   fascinating thing to explore in a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   Trek show and it's something that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48   much as Star Trek lore has been steeped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   in bringing a new perspective to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   cultures and cultural divisions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:57   political strife that not everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00   the same perspective on I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   there could be something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   fascinating to that where it is less cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   and dry I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   I hear where you're coming from on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   this is this is what concerns me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   Jason was talking to you about this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   slack the other day like you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   many Star Trek's they they kind of come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   off with a premise that you can explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   this and write like TOS is a five year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   you know DSM's Space Station Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   they're trapped you know a long way from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   home for this it it I don't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:36   concept around the show that makes me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   that really pulls me in like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41   the the Klingons and humans and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   relations that they had around this era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   has been so hyper explored that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:50   like they can add a new subspecies it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   going on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   secret treaty which is why you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   the ship looks half Klingon they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   that that doesn't innately like draw me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   into it and maybe this ends up being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   kind of show that's more character based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   like homeland or billions like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   shows that really aren't built off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   premise they are built around characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   and maybe you know this show will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   the kind of acting and actors that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   pull that off but I I just have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   that the everything I'm seeing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   the show doesn't make me go oh cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   that's a premise I want to watch it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   just the Star Trek name that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33   cashing in on is this this trailer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   very much like Star Trek remember Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   Trek let's show you all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   about Star Trek yeah like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   it's missing because I mean my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   assumption is that the premise for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   show is Birnam gets basically thrust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   into a command position and has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   struggle with that and and challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   are overcome but we don't we don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   that in that trailer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   the trailer is Star Trek they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   hiding the premise for now it seems yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   which which yeah I think I I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   will be one although I think any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   expectations there is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   show to have a premise yeah yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   premise is Star Trek yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   there you go to space that's the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   that's that's oh yeah no I think but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:15   do think that Star Trek that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   fascinated by the idea of the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   Star Trek in 2017 and modern television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   it's going to be different it is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   to be character driven it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   a big story arc it's going to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   episodes of the you know week where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   there's an adventure and then it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   and we move on to the next adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   it's going to be a very different beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   than any Star Trek we've seen before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   I think Eve it is not going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   episode where Doug Jones teaches Birnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   had it like jazz tap or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   that no I mean ever since this is how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   apply decontamination gel on my planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   anything's possible but but I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:49   also do think that there this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   suspicion throughout this and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   that we don't see the discovery in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54   and all it's like yeah they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   keep quiet on what I think they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:59   to do which is the classic TV fake-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   where they show you characters that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   think you're going to be seeing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   rest of the show and then very rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   they are either left behind or killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   and I suspect that's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   there are a lot of actors that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   named as being on this show I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   doubts that all of them are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   make it through but they're keeping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   on that right now because because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   an expensive cast for a streaming show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   feel like what they were trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   with this specific trailer was make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   people go hey guess what Star Trek looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   really friggin expensive by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   looks expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   also the lens flares were brought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   spared no expense we bought them in bulk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   the next shot here is uh is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:41   it's Eric again but what we get is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   suggestion that Birnam actually has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   long-standing connection to Sarah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   Vulcan that she seems to have grown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   at least in part on Vulcan shit there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   a little girl who looks like her with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   Vulcan haircut yeah but she can't speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   Vulcan right because she has a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   human tongue and can't do it so the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   this line posed a lot of questions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   me because so I mean for example do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   know that Birnam is human she looks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   he was around ears but well jason is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   know I mean she could be half-human yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   I got a quarter or something else she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   a secret Vulcan aging the entire time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   seems unlikely to me because she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   tears welling up and all of that but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   know you never you never know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   she's a human her top half as human her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   bottom half is locusts like I'm like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   merman yes although oddly enough now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   want to see a show just called Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   secret Vulcan so I think totally watch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   think I'm intrigued by the premise we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   had all this stuff about Spock being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   like Howard dealing with his human half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   and and and this is more like Spock's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   mom this is a was it being a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   growing up on Vulcan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   it sounds like it kind of sucks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   this yes let's not look great well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   seems like being a Vulcan growing up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   Vulcan kind of sucks so yeah they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   fix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:55   it's a choice so that's intriguing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   what we get out of this is that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   not a drive-by necessarily performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   with CEREC but that actually Birnam has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   a direct connection with CEREC which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   kind of it I think in that in that shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:09   he's like a hologram right so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   know if that she's watching a past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   message that she always goes back or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   like you know he's just calling her all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   the time that he's not a hologram in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   that there's there's also show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20   Grammy's but that may be a flashback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   that flashback of when when she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   living with the small girl yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   it's totally a flashback yep she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   turn into a small girl no a well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   cook time travel it is Star Trek well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   it's true anything is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   they she gets turned to a small group or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   small girl along with three other crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   members they're stuck in a turbo lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   for an episode it's yeah can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   Sarek is there so we get a bunch of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   get a bunch of quick flashes of the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   is in the shadow is in jeopardy uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   the Klingons do a lot of shouting we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:51   they do they all like to look up and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   wrong like they do like Klingons do well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56   to be fair that's what they always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   yeah Burnham uh says we need to we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   to attack them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   and Michelle Yeoh says we do not fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   Starfleet doesn't fire first just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   we got to do this we gotta take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   that's a pretty good line um yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   I kind of questioned it as a strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   but like that's that's an ethos it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   very Picardie with a good guys we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   fire first it's all defensive our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   weapons are for defense we're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   exploration ship right that's very Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   Trek yeah but that's how your ship gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   blown up and yeah that's how you die in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   episode 1 and then episode discovery so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   that's true I think I'm pretty sure all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   the Starfleet officers we see in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   trailer almost all of them are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   be dead by the end of the first steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   except for maybe Doug Jones yeah some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   them could be in Klingon work camps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   a little strip repented I'll come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   yeah good if you're that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42   things that happens is a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   prisoners of war taken and somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   they've got to be rescued or or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   satisfy the Klingons forced to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   through a Klingon biology class where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   they explain the differences of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   various excellent actually it's done out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59   for lunch today we will have gone well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   we have that we have that shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   Michelle Yeoh it looks like from behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   looking at the view screen and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   white like fleN it's like oh that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   doesn't look good and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   immediately could they cut to black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   then they fade up on John Doug Jones's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   character saying you know my race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   evolved to sense death and I sent it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   which I you know what I like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   like it cuz it's super creepy I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   that's going to like what did they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   like get a species of people invite them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   into the Federation to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   essentially Canaries in a coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   and like Harsha presents an idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   hope that they have other skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   it's very Star Trek but like I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   think it's gonna be like we're a prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   species yeah we know when this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   stuff is happening and not not as a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   were brought in to Starfleet for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   but more like we gotta get out of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   way to go Jonas you hope that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   a biological feature they have it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   like that their entire culture is based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   around that like really you guys don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   have like one guy that builds spaceships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   how did we let you into the Federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   knowing meerkats it's just a whole race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   of meerkat people they pop up they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   for death and I pop back down Admiral my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   death sensing officer has something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   add one moment please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   I guess I guess maybe the qualifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   to get into the Federation were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   different back then there'll only know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:18   like seven aliens so like I have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19   get in yeah and this this show is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   the reason why they had to tighten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:24   yes wooly it's could be the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   we never see them again later yes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   a premise it's guys know episodes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   people getting evicted for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   Federation right yet I always assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:35   that there there are lots of planets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   very low populations and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   happy to be in the Federation but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   don't send a lot of people out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   just be there's only a few thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   years and they just yeah I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   got to be people who are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   Federation they don't like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   have anyone in Starfleet earning right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   they're just in the Federation like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   paper tax purpose yeah that's right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   just got a little an eye on what we send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   you nobody to be officers and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   let you mine all the ore that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   just don't destroy our biosphere we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   replicators in holodeck so that we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01   have to prepare our own food or work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04   jobs again oh and what could go wrong so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the last shot of the trailer is back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   in space and burn them in this her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   spacesuit and and there's like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   Klingon in a space suit with a big bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   left kind of thingy it looks like a bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   left if you show it if you slow it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   it looks definitely looks like a sword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   of Kahless a bat'leth I agree yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   and he swings it at her and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   end of the trailer that's all we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30   see ninja dies at the end how much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34   want to bet the cliffhanger is her out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   in space in the suit and the ship is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   destroyed Oh interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   and the discovery funds er I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   we have to parse parse this out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:45   that they have been now it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   that they've been squirrely about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   premise of the show in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   because they've been figuring it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   because there's been so much turmoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   behind the scenes that maybe but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   like the fact that we we don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   have a great sense of what this of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:02   happens in the first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   beyond this confrontation that that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   has out in his spacesuit and what might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   be happening back on the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   I love that I love the notion of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   maybe being demoted or somehow you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15   somehow stigmatized for screwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   something up you know we get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   indication of her wanting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   impulsive and her captain thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   better and you know I I just love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   idea of lucius malfoy as captain of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   starship you know giving her you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   quite enough Glee I think everything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   know about Starfleet in that era would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   reward that kind of behavior yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   like you did something ruthless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:38   brash here's your own starship please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   it's there's Klingons and aliens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   action and lens flares and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:47   viral effects yeah I like it so yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   I mean there are a lot of people out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   there breed mentioned earlier what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   people are freaking out about this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   we go it looks so terrible I honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   don't get where that's coming from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   think it looks really good in fact my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   worry about it is it looks so good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   they're over selling it and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   way it's going to look this good on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   week-by-week basis that they won't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   the budget for it I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   people are freaking out about this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   it looks I mean I'm not sold on it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   I'm excited for this it it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   the building blocks are there but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   think I think the more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   questions are how are they going to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   bring this to be a show in 2017 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   something they're saying earlier about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   yeah the the the short script and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:32   adventure of the week not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   I I can't help but think that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   going to lose part of Star Trek if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   not that you know we have a Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   main franchise right now that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   essentially action movies in space and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   I don't think that I think they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   missed the entire point the series I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   have liked every sequel less and less so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   I want to I want to see something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2516">TS</a>]

00:42:00   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   really wrestling with these deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   philosophical questions about what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:06   means to be human like where our better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   nature is you know what is what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   epics in war like Star Trek really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   helped shape my thinking and my politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   on that and I think we need a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   can do that very bravely and what I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   worried about here is you know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   like I feel like Enterprise in Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28   or two series that never got a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   shake by the audience because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   the half fans the fans at just like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   of it and they're just variant ly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   against the rest of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   I really wonder worried that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   going to come into this and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   going to give it a fair shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   particularly because it looks like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   going to start to women into women of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   color and I just really wonder if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   audience is going to hold them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   unconscious double standards I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   you something based on my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   actually with Doctor Who coming back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   2005 which is I think the best thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:02   do is to not care what the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   fans think because for the future of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   franchise and the success of this show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   think they need to appeal to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   generation of fans who will be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   into this people who grew up watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   Star Trek on Netflix not watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   when it aired they're going to be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   younger if there's anything like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   Doctor Who audience it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   lot younger and it's going to be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   more gender-balanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   than the old fandom was and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:30   that that the existing fans will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   along because it's Star Trek to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   certain degree and give it a shot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   that they got to expand beyond that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   this is actually one of the reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   I'm a little frustrated that in the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   it's going to be on CBS all access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   because it seems to me like that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   should be on CBS it should just be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   the network yeah because what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   saying is it's really for the Trekkies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   and they'll pay for it and that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   that's going to limit their ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   reach that new audience at least at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   beginning everywhere else in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:57   it'll be on Netflix and I think it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   a hit but in the u.s. will people see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   I don't see there being harm in giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   people who subscribe to all access like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   a week advance access to it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   playing that episode a week later on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   network you could window it that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   achieve the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   kind of thing the people who really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   it want it now and want to pay for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   are going to pay for it piracy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   something that if if you think out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   putting it on all access is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   prevent people from pirating it guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   what and I you know Jason it sounds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   me like you're saying that a next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   generation of fans could be born out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   this oh it's a tough one because I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   get that they're trying to kind of go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   back to something that's familiar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   people in this in the in the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   Kirk Spock McCoy era but it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   same ground I don't know it's a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   one right how do you bring back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   franchise that I point to Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   only because that is an example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   completely dead franchise that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   brought back to life with a revitalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   fan base and they did it in continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:55   without replaying you're saying no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   we're going to start from scratch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   they managed to make it work so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   some hope and they botched that launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   in the US and it's still managed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   it after a few years so it's it's I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   some hope there that that the a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   the classic Trek fans will come along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   but that there will be a new generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   of fans will be drawn into this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   have actually a lot of hope Bri for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   you said about what Star Trek is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20   may be maybe summer tentpole action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   movies in general can't do which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   classic social commentary and character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   interaction I feel like long-form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   television is a place where you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   have the leisure to do that in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   that you can't in a movie and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   kind of can't in a classic TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   that resets every week you can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   little a little parable and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   have to move on so I guess that puts our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   hope in Bryan Fuller who came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   the story arc that the story arc he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   chosen is something that allows them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   explore the characters and explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   social issues and be Star Trek I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   if they haven't messed with it too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   since he left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   I feel like Bryan Fuller gets that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   is what Star Trek is and I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   forward to them having the the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   to stretch that story out over 15 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   instead of having these hour-long cycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   or a two and a half hour long movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   then they have to get out of town where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   there's no way to do I feel like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   divorce the divorce between the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   franchise and the movie franchise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   something that again makes me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   optimistic for this TV series because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   you have Nicholas Meyer working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   you have the movies having doubled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   tripled down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   action bang bang bang flash and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   here sexy people taking off the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   and here more sexy people taking off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   their clothes and guess what we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32   new sexy people to take off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   clothes in the next movie and ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   motorbikes I enjoy the new movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   they're fine but I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   they're trying to do that specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   just you know from what we've seen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   from what we can extrapolate from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:48   we know about who they've cast what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   they've put into it the fact that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   are a bunch of people saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   you know this trailer wasn't white or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   male enough gentlemen I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:59   direct you to literally olive starch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   think you've not been watching a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   called Star Trek mm-hmm is all a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   Trek still available to those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   they have hope that it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   disappeared so I know it's gone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   done they deleted it I mean the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   that that excites me about the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   staff is not just Nick Meyer but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   people who stayed behind after Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   Foley left have worked with fuller for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   years so I don't think they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   deviate too far from where he was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:28   with it and and they have Crick visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   Kristen or Kirsten Bayer who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:35   several Voyager novels which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   actually very good they're very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   yeah yeah and she's on staff so so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   I'm kind of trust in the writing staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   and the story arc thing it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   modern modern TV storytelling I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   excited about that I mean Star Trek put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   a tan in that with some of the arcs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   they had in in Deep Space Nine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   Enterprise and maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   Voyager but here it's going to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   know full-on 2017 TV series it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   to be interesting to see how how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   plays out but I am hopeful that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   going to get those moments also for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   fact that the trailer is high production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   value and has lots of action in it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   know it's a trailer - that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   they're not going to they start with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   quiet introspective moment and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   have lots of explosions in action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   because they do want to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   excited but III imagine we'll have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   moments I don't think we've seen a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   of the named actors that have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   had their names out in a variety and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   deadlines press releases of so-and-so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   has been cast in circle whole crew of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   the USS discovery is not in this trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   right and that includes several named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   actors that we are just not seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   oh the Klingon guy among multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   Klingon guys yeah yeah well it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   you know thinking about that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   generation of fans my boys watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   trailer and I mean yes they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   inducted into Star Trek just by osmosis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55   because it's just on in our house but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   but they're watching it going that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   kind of interesting what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   I said let's watch it again I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   and we watched it you know four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   times and and they really want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   what's going on they want to know why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   haven't seen the discovery and why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   don't know what's going on they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   what's it about that's exactly that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   they weren't they weren't disturbed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   the lack of a premise they just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   to get to the premise it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   tell me more so I was just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   okay they seem not to be ready to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   her that that tell tell us more which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   probably again just speculating here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   it's probably that something bad happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   to that shape and that she is she is put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:36   on a different ship and has to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   what happens so it starts out with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   talking and saying well you're my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   officer and you you really need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   command you need to move up now and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   know that she is not moving up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   she's not the captain so no something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   has to keep her at that level right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   maybe she just likes it interesting yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   is the Riker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   it's a Riker fan she's a right now she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   should do the Riker River before Riker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   was even born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   did this trailer make people uh excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   about new Star Trek to come yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09   I watched on my phone and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   really the place to watch it so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   kind of like well alright but then I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   it up on the on the Apple TV on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   screen and and yeah I was I was ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   yeah I wanted more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   I am ready I'm excited I am I'm in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:27   feels like Star Trek to me I am fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:31   with people not liking it that's fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   am NOT fine with people saying it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   real Star Trek which just means it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   the Star Trek I like which is fine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:41   not real Star Trek says people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   not seen the Star Trek yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   in Doctor Who fandom by the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   phrase is it's not proper Doctor Who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   those people will exist for this too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   they're dumb people of course you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   like it as I like but it's dark magics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   fully expect a lot of hardcore Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:59   fans to watch the show I'd just hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   because there's no Captain Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   they're not wearing colorful Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   Kirk shirts even though that's stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   whatevs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   why doesn't why why aren't the sets made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   of cardboard pepper knobs on the inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   this is ten years before the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   enterprise and it's too advanced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   guess what that's dumb and you're dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   for thinking it I I will say I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   crazy about the title font but it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   better than the next generation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   grown on me fine David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   I've got a theme song to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   about oh yeah well we don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   like what's the theme song gonna be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35   guess we're gonna have to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36   anything new I hope it's a remix of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   Enterprise theme so no I hope it don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   know Eric's no let's just go back to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   Kestrel I think everybody's learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   their lesson it's been a longer oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   don't I will hang up the sky that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   right that's right so take a go guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   Tony you excited I'm excited I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:56   knew when this was coming exactly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   you know what Falls a big time yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   think it's awesome that they've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   committed to a three-month period that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   happens in 2017 because I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   worried this was gonna be coming January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   28th day because they've only committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11   to 2017 how many times now I think fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14   means November 30th I don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   hopeful that that they will run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   whole of 15 episodes in in calendar 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23   but who knows they we know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   have been shooting already and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   some stuff that looks like finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   effects so I mean yeah you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:32   would I would say that I'm bullish on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   them actually delivering it now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   good and I I don't think they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   previewed it at the upfront if it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   in like somewhere within its absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   Oberer absolutely I think that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43   plus I want to give it a boost they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44   to they want to premiere it on CBS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   get people really intrigued by it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   and then fork out money on CBS all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   access so I'm excited by it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   we'll probably see more and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   probably give away the premise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   they'll take away all this air of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57   mystery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   built up with this with this teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   trailer but new Star Trek right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   fundamentally how could you not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   excited about a new Star Trek my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   final thought is I mentioned Mass Effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   earlier and I am somebody who came very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   very late to Mass Effect everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   talking about a great Mass Effect was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13   and and how fantastic it was and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:16   great the storytelling was and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   stuff and it came during a very dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   period of me playing games and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   a lot of people who have kind of dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24   with a dearth of I guess you would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   spaceship going science fiction shows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   TV for a while now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   not just Star Trek and I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   feel like you mentioned 2017 TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   serialized storytelling styles I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:40   there is that evolution that we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   in TV that has affected the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   stories and a lot of games have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   told where we have trilogies of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   that tell this big like season arc type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:53   of a story per game and I like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   of you know they're being shows like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   good place out there that subvert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   expectations for what you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   get by the end of a season of that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   and by the end of season one it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   like you're part of the way into season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   three of how a network show would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   ordinarily do things business as usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13   and I I want to I want to say that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   optimism will be rewarded I hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   because Bryan Fuller had so much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   formative influence on this and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   trusted the right people to handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   show once he left it where we will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   that kind of Oh God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   Star Trek can be this now Star Trek can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   do this kind of stuff it's not hampered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   by this it doesn't have to meet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   specific order number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   originally we were told it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   be what like 10 episodes 12 was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   be 12 it was going to be less than 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   episodes and I don't think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   just wanted to add another three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   episodes I think they found three more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   episodes of story to tell and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   just the shape that the story took and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   that if there's any of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   Kremlinology that I can do about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   kind of stuff I really want that to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   through and deliver on yeah I I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:03   even using the word franchise with Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   Trek even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   help define what we think as a franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   because to me it is about what it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   me feel and what it has philosophically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   behind it and I feel like we will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   will get breeze magic golden trophy of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   this is what this show is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   elevator pitch yeah I know that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   gonna get that and I can't wait for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   to get that for it to hopefully confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   a lot of the the optimism that I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   for this show well you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   what those three episodes are once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   signed rain will scenario 3 order yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   the hearing but trilogy yes oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   wonder where did that Harry Mudd come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:45   I'll just go watch deep space 9 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   those uppers yes all right so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   the last thing we got to to do is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:55   tease everybody about what we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   to do at the incomparable about a weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   Star Trek new Star Trek episodes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   don't know but I don't know if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06   YG's TV series or if it if it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:10   random Trek does random Trek become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   linear for 15-week waters and then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:15   back why I don't know what happens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   don't know I guess we've got until fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   to find out well and of course they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   also announced that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   follow each episode with yeah talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   tracking Trek which is they should hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   why have they not hired us to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   yet come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   right we're ready we're here yeah CBS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   you have my numbered les Moonves you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   know why do you know why all right we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:42   gonna wrap it up here for our flash Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   Trek discovery breakdown and enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   podcast and I'm going to thank my guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   for being on this last minute last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   second put together podcast date Laura [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   thank you so say we all geez that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   wrong show wrong show Scott McNulty beam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   me up we have engaged the Klingons Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   Sindelar live long and prosper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   good night nerds Moises chu-young we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   reach use the force Harry no and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:13   Brianna Wu fire phasers fire phasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   all right and thanks to everybody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   there for listening to the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   we'll see you next week goodbye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:45   kepta where are we going we have no map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   and you can't set a course without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   star it's hard to imagine you've sucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   under me for seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   come on two burner I think it is time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:01   talked about you having your own command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:04   to to transport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:09   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:15   great unifiers a few and far between but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   they do come often such leaders will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:21   need a profound cause for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   followers to rally era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:29   what am I looking at objective unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   origin we've come all this way captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   it would be irresponsible to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   whatever that is unknown where have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   done out there on the edge of federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   space computer enable igniter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:53   captain what signatures detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   context Starfleet Command we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   engaged the Klingons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:04   you will never learn bulken her tongue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   is too human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:10   I'm trying to save you I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   save all of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:18   it's neck cut off its head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   Starfleet it doesn't fire first we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   my people were biologically determined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   for one purpose alone to sense the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   coming of death I sense it coming down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:44   Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUdGOs/3588">TS</a>]