Roderick on the Line

Ep. 248: "Hubris of the Moment"


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00:00:05   hi John hi Marilla how's it going it's [TS]

00:00:11   going good thanks for letting me sleep [TS]

00:00:13   in today did you sleep in a little bit [TS]

00:00:15   yeah you gave me a little buffer uh I [TS]

00:00:18   was up until 4:30 in the morning again [TS]

00:00:22   because hmm because I made the wrong [TS]

00:00:25   choices I had a piece of cake now for [TS]

00:00:28   late-night dinner snack and I'm [TS]

00:00:31   realizing that a piece of cake is like a [TS]

00:00:33   piece of cake at 11:00 is going to sleep [TS]

00:00:37   at 5:00 really what why you think that [TS]

00:00:39   is the sugar stimulate you well it's a [TS]

00:00:42   it's always a chocolate cake and uh and [TS]

00:00:46   it just I don't know what I don't have [TS]

00:00:48   it I go to sleep like a normal person [TS]

00:00:51   when I do have it I feel like I just [TS]

00:00:52   States uh you know a big huge slice of [TS]

00:00:56   chocolate cake no that's no good you [TS]

00:00:57   know that's a finite situation yeah then [TS]

00:00:59   I fly across the fly fly across the [TS]

00:01:01   night on my my wings of Destiny but uh [TS]

00:01:07   but I so at five o'clock in the morning [TS]

00:01:10   I was like I have to get up in five hour [TS]

00:01:12   in four hours to talk to Marilyn hmm [TS]

00:01:15   butBut I wrote your text middle of the [TS]

00:01:17   night text take and I sleep in you are [TS]

00:01:19   like yes and now here I am NOT with four [TS]

00:01:22   hours of sleep but with six hours of [TS]

00:01:25   sleep and I feel like there's a huge [TS]

00:01:27   difference between those things so thank [TS]

00:01:30   you - difference I told you before about [TS]

00:01:32   my concept of like I have trouble [TS]

00:01:34   getting back to sleep sometimes and I I [TS]

00:01:35   told you bout my concept of bonus sleep [TS]

00:01:37   right you get double bonus sleep triple [TS]

00:01:39   bonus sleep if you're able to go back to [TS]

00:01:41   sleep for a period of time after you [TS]

00:01:42   wake up that's a huge win but I've also [TS]

00:01:44   found it very difficult because then you [TS]

00:01:46   also have to be that person who says if [TS]

00:01:49   I pull this off I'm going to be sleeping [TS]

00:01:51   into the daylight part of the day when [TS]

00:01:54   other people are doing things and I [TS]

00:01:56   think they are very difficult and I feel [TS]

00:01:58   resistance and it's hard to do yeah part [TS]

00:02:02   of the advantage well let's see I don't [TS]

00:02:05   know if I should say advantage but part [TS]

00:02:06   of the experience of living alone is [TS]

00:02:09   that I can pull the curtains and I hear [TS]

00:02:12   people out [TS]

00:02:13   in the neighborhood doing doing day work [TS]

00:02:16   mm-hmm but I pulled the curtains and you [TS]

00:02:19   know for a long time all the way to noon [TS]

00:02:22   you can say to yourself well carpenters [TS]

00:02:25   get up early sure those guys are out [TS]

00:02:27   there hammering but they're the 7 a.m. [TS]

00:02:29   carpenters so obviously I mean that's [TS]

00:02:31   their whole stock in trade is the early [TS]

00:02:32   guys right but if you're living with [TS]

00:02:35   other people like when my daughter stays [TS]

00:02:37   here with me it's I have to get up and [TS]

00:02:40   fucking crack a dawn this what's art [TS]

00:02:42   with a task if it's not too private [TS]

00:02:44   what's her what's her usual go to on her [TS]

00:02:47   own wake-up time well you know so there [TS]

00:02:51   are three she has three homes right or [TS]

00:02:52   my home her mother's home and my [TS]

00:02:55   mother's home and in the course of a [TS]

00:02:57   regular week she stays in all three [TS]

00:03:00   places and her natural wake-up time is [TS]

00:03:06   has three different [TS]

00:03:08   she has three different times Oh [TS]

00:03:10   interesting she wakes up differently at [TS]

00:03:13   my mom's house on the rig like she's [TS]

00:03:17   always up and happy and playing in her [TS]

00:03:20   uh playing in a room before my mom even [TS]

00:03:24   comes in to wake her up and at her [TS]

00:03:27   mother's house she wakes up always kind [TS]

00:03:29   of like uh like eyes squinting what mad [TS]

00:03:35   at the same time of day and at my house [TS]

00:03:39   she will sleep until 11 o'clock in the [TS]

00:03:42   morning if you let her jiminy Christmas [TS]

00:03:44   really yeah and there's no accounting [TS]

00:03:49   for it because we've looked at every [TS]

00:03:50   variable it's like well does the Sun [TS]

00:03:53   come in and wake her up no the Sun I [TS]

00:03:56   mean the Sun does come in some places [TS]

00:03:57   but not others but it's that it's not [TS]

00:03:59   like it can't you can't account for it [TS]

00:04:04   because of that is it because of traffic [TS]

00:04:06   noise or is my house quieter something [TS]

00:04:10   something you're missing something not [TS]

00:04:12   obvious but we've tried we've thought of [TS]

00:04:14   everything and it just doesn't seem you [TS]

00:04:19   know the [TS]

00:04:21   it could just be that my mom wakes up at [TS]

00:04:23   4 o'clock in the morning and even though [TS]

00:04:25   she's quiet as a church mouse her the [TS]

00:04:27   energy of awakeness and and aliveness is [TS]

00:04:30   in my mom's house earlier and the energy [TS]

00:04:34   in my house is like yeah you know it's [TS]

00:04:37   like a sleepy bear cave and I don't I [TS]

00:04:40   don't know how much you can I don't know [TS]

00:04:43   how much you can in this modern era lean [TS]

00:04:47   on the idea that that not only does the [TS]

00:04:49   house have an energy but the energy of [TS]

00:04:52   the people in the house is affecting the [TS]

00:04:53   energy of other people in the house to [TS]

00:04:55   the degree that they will sleep three [TS]

00:04:56   extra hours a night but but yeah she's [TS]

00:05:01   she has a very different experience and [TS]

00:05:03   um and in my sometimes she'll stay in a [TS]

00:05:07   in a bedroom upstairs at my house and [TS]

00:05:09   she wakes up at a different time than if [TS]

00:05:10   she stays in the bedroom in the bottom [TS]

00:05:12   of the house as you know John I don't [TS]

00:05:15   like to get into the topic of magic [TS]

00:05:17   magic and time travel or two things I [TS]

00:05:19   prefer to avoid on our show anything [TS]

00:05:21   else don't talk I'll talk I'll talk [TS]

00:05:22   about anything else on this show but two [TS]

00:05:24   things I try to avoid magic and time [TS]

00:05:26   travel this might be spooky action at [TS]

00:05:29   distance but I didn't read the article [TS]

00:05:30   but I saw a headline not long ago about [TS]

00:05:34   I guess some scholarship into that [TS]

00:05:37   feeling when you know someone is looking [TS]

00:05:39   at you give her the feeling you're like [TS]

00:05:42   I'm me turn and like somebody on the [TS]

00:05:44   subways looking at you or something like [TS]

00:05:45   that you ever you know it's not you know [TS]

00:05:46   that feeling that weird feeling the [TS]

00:05:48   right eye I use it all the time in a [TS]

00:05:52   crowd of people I'll sit and look at [TS]

00:05:54   somebody in a crowd of people and wait [TS]

00:05:55   for them to feel it and look over at me [TS]

00:05:57   I mean I said it's a few I mean yeah not [TS]

00:06:01   strangers right I'm not just like oh [TS]

00:06:03   hello girl in poodle skirt it's like oh [TS]

00:06:07   I see it I see a friend across a crowd [TS]

00:06:10   and rather than each my way through it's [TS]

00:06:12   like hey is that hey lamb you wait you [TS]

00:06:15   wait for their amygdala to get the John [TS]

00:06:16   signal that's right I shoot the mind [TS]

00:06:18   bullets at them and then mine their mind [TS]

00:06:20   blanks they're not like dead building a [TS]

00:06:23   brain squib yeah they're like they're [TS]

00:06:25   like paint balls mind paint balls mmm I [TS]

00:06:28   think it's more often than not and it's [TS]

00:06:30   not that they're sitting and scanning [TS]

00:06:31   the room it's more often than not they [TS]

00:06:33   can look up in the [TS]

00:06:34   like oh hey so yeah magic I just wonder [TS]

00:06:38   if it's something like that is what was [TS]

00:06:40   what I'm saying because I've had the [TS]

00:06:41   same experience where like it's [TS]

00:06:42   difficult for me to know you know I've [TS]

00:06:43   tried all the variables with sleep and [TS]

00:06:46   I've tried enough of them it's sort of [TS]

00:06:47   like somebody going and getting a test [TS]

00:06:48   for cancer everyday like eventually [TS]

00:06:49   you're probably gonna die from the test [TS]

00:06:51   rather than the cancer so many things [TS]

00:06:54   with sleep and like my results have been [TS]

00:06:56   so weird like I assumed that sleeping [TS]

00:06:58   with earplug and the things I quantify [TS]

00:07:00   this I've got by a tracking device that [TS]

00:07:02   tells me how long and how well I slept [TS]

00:07:04   every night and I can look at that in [TS]

00:07:05   the morning go hmm that was very [TS]

00:07:06   interesting I had this much deep sleep I [TS]

00:07:08   had this much REM sleep I had this much [TS]

00:07:09   light sleep and like I I can't tell fuck [TS]

00:07:12   all about it I mean like you know I even [TS]

00:07:14   have an app that says like you know I [TS]

00:07:15   got this app that tries to be helpful [TS]

00:07:17   and says things like you know um you [TS]

00:07:19   know you you get more workouts when you [TS]

00:07:21   take more steps well you spend more time [TS]

00:07:24   awake when you get up early I like [TS]

00:07:26   thanks buddy [TS]

00:07:27   thanks love God let's try some of the [TS]

00:07:30   same would agree you you weigh more when [TS]

00:07:32   the days get longer which is very [TS]

00:07:35   categorically untrue that's all it's so [TS]

00:07:38   strange one of them I did some [TS]

00:07:39   screenshots of these one of them was [TS]

00:07:41   something like um you have more sunny [TS]

00:07:44   days when you're in Washington DC that's [TS]

00:07:50   you know I bet there's something to that [TS]

00:07:52   that's true but kind of good so anyway I [TS]

00:07:56   don't want to talk about time trouble [TS]

00:07:57   and I don't talk about magic maybe I [TS]

00:07:58   want to talk about spooky action at [TS]

00:08:00   distance but I wonder if there's some [TS]

00:08:01   explanation for this it could be the [TS]

00:08:03   ether in the air it could be ghosts [TS]

00:08:06   maybe they're myself loose it could be [TS]

00:08:10   could be you have an unknown monk : [TS]

00:08:11   maybe someones coming up and trying to [TS]

00:08:13   fix shoes like you don't know you know [TS]

00:08:15   so what about about wormholes it could [TS]

00:08:17   be wormholes it could be the tubes that [TS]

00:08:19   run the internet how do you know you [TS]

00:08:20   don't have a wormhole you can't get a [TS]

00:08:23   decent home inspection these days how [TS]

00:08:24   are you gonna find out if you've got a [TS]

00:08:25   wormhole or not and I can't tell you you [TS]

00:08:28   can't even tell if the your electrical [TS]

00:08:29   outlets are grounded let alone uh [TS]

00:08:31   whether or not you have a wormhole you [TS]

00:08:33   never get a house inspector yeah a [TS]

00:08:34   wormhole you got to get a psychic house [TS]

00:08:36   inspector you have to get somebody who's [TS]

00:08:37   open to moving beyond the the quality of [TS]

00:08:40   the laminate floor to get down to the [TS]

00:08:41   plywood underneath somebody who's able [TS]

00:08:43   to come in and give you a high-level [TS]

00:08:44   vision of the unseen [TS]

00:08:46   what do you feel about spooky action at [TS]

00:08:50   a distance boy boy boy there's all kinds [TS]

00:08:54   of stuff where I would like to think [TS]

00:08:57   that I'm like a full-on full-bore pedal [TS]

00:09:00   the metal james randi motherfucker and [TS]

00:09:02   that I am out there being John [TS]

00:09:04   irrationality all the time [TS]

00:09:06   snowman science down even where where [TS]

00:09:09   science isn't needed I would like to [TS]

00:09:11   think that I'm you know scientifically [TS]

00:09:13   woke that I'm out there and I'm like I'm [TS]

00:09:15   seeing problems in the world and fixing [TS]

00:09:17   shit with my mind but science is the [TS]

00:09:19   laminate floor over the plywood subfloor [TS]

00:09:21   how do we even know where the floor is [TS]

00:09:23   all we see is the laminate right so you [TS]

00:09:27   can feel it you feel it under your [TS]

00:09:28   tongue your toes but uh but you know I [TS]

00:09:31   know on the one hand I do a fair amount [TS]

00:09:33   of magical thinking I know that I do [TS]

00:09:35   that I don't want to do that but I know [TS]

00:09:37   that I do do that and and I know that I [TS]

00:09:41   I don't think or choose to believe in [TS]

00:09:45   omens and portents and thus and such bad [TS]

00:09:48   signs good signs and yeah I know I do [TS]

00:09:51   I know I know lucky thing I have lucky [TS]

00:09:56   things I do have lucky things and I have [TS]

00:09:57   lucky lucky signs [TS]

00:09:58   do you have Jeff jinxes sorry idea are [TS]

00:10:01   you like Billy Beane in Moneyball you [TS]

00:10:04   friend go to the French go to the [TS]

00:10:06   stadium and watch the game cuz you're [TS]

00:10:07   gonna jinx it I probably do I probably [TS]

00:10:10   do it's probably not anything that's [TS]

00:10:11   even that it's not even that sensible [TS]

00:10:14   it's not even I don't even have like [TS]

00:10:16   real-world superstitions that make any [TS]

00:10:18   sense [TS]

00:10:18   sometimes it will be I've thought that [TS]

00:10:20   thought too many times today so it's [TS]

00:10:22   pretty definitely gonna happen oh that [TS]

00:10:24   kind of thing and I know that that's an [TS]

00:10:26   emotional and mental health issue and [TS]

00:10:27   I'll own that but glad I do I don't feel [TS]

00:10:31   proud saying this but in trying to [TS]

00:10:33   figure out how to get your daughter [TS]

00:10:33   consistent sleep I'm willing to open [TS]

00:10:35   open my box here is that I do sometimes [TS]

00:10:37   wonder if there are perhaps unseen [TS]

00:10:40   things that we cannot be aware of that [TS]

00:10:44   could be having an effect on how we live [TS]

00:10:47   our lives I'm not married maybe what I'm [TS]

00:10:49   open I feel like that is still basic [TS]

00:10:53   science in the sense that we have just [TS]

00:10:57   in the 20th century discovered so many [TS]

00:10:59   things that we didn't know [TS]

00:11:00   before some things that we didn't even [TS]

00:11:02   know existed that to presume that we are [TS]

00:11:05   now at peak understanding is I think [TS]

00:11:08   also like not scientific right it's the [TS]

00:11:11   hubristic [TS]

00:11:11   of the the heat the hubris of the moment [TS]

00:11:14   the hubris of the present moment where [TS]

00:11:16   you feel like history you feel like [TS]

00:11:18   we've got it all we got a whole bunch of [TS]

00:11:19   books with all kinds of stuff in it yeah [TS]

00:11:22   history has new Under the Sun exactly [TS]

00:11:24   history stops with us and in fact you [TS]

00:11:27   know political systems will ich will [TS]

00:11:29   continue to evolve and science will [TS]

00:11:31   continue to evolve of course there are [TS]

00:11:33   like 10,000 million things we don't know [TS]

00:11:37   yet but it's so hard to situate yourself [TS]

00:11:40   in a timeline where the future and I [TS]

00:11:42   don't want to talk about time travel hmm [TS]

00:11:44   but where the future is [TS]

00:11:45   you know unknowable and you can only see [TS]

00:11:48   yourself at in history like as part of a [TS]

00:11:53   continuum of history but from a [TS]

00:11:55   perspective that you can never have and [TS]

00:11:58   yeah I feel like I feel like spooky [TS]

00:12:00   action at a distance is not a thing that [TS]

00:12:01   we can even imagine how we would [TS]

00:12:03   discover the the process but it doesn't [TS]

00:12:08   mean that you know it doesn't mean that [TS]

00:12:10   some young Einstein isn't sitting in her [TS]

00:12:13   Garret and feeling up you know like wait [TS]

00:12:16   a minute uh [TS]

00:12:18   time is relative or or action isn't [TS]

00:12:21   spooky it's actually it's yeah right [TS]

00:12:24   it's friendly action at a distance well [TS]

00:12:27   as you know I'm not a scientist but [TS]

00:12:29   alright but you look at like the history [TS]

00:12:31   of stuff and you get somebody who gets a [TS]

00:12:33   reckon about how the world works and [TS]

00:12:35   maybe that could be a guy throwing [TS]

00:12:36   lightning bolts from the sky sure [TS]

00:12:39   something with somebody whittling and [TS]

00:12:41   turns out the whittling stick is really [TS]

00:12:43   yeah and you know you could even before [TS]

00:12:45   you even understand what something is [TS]

00:12:46   you get to give it a name and once it [TS]

00:12:48   has a name and then becomes an idea that [TS]

00:12:50   you can you can share with other people [TS]

00:12:51   maybe at some point you get evidence [TS]

00:12:54   about whether that is a thing or not [TS]

00:12:56   right right and then then eventually [TS]

00:12:59   maybe you discover oh no no no that [TS]

00:13:02   happened because of this and then you go [TS]

00:13:03   oh but now we know what this thing is we [TS]

00:13:05   give it a new name we eventually get the [TS]

00:13:07   ability to measure it and then once we [TS]

00:13:08   get the ability to measure it eventually [TS]

00:13:10   we get the ability to measure it more [TS]

00:13:11   carefully until right [TS]

00:13:14   refit it into our understanding of [TS]

00:13:15   things and I just I just don't know [TS]

00:13:17   which stage of those things I'm at with [TS]

00:13:20   some of my reckons about the world right [TS]

00:13:23   I don't have a way to measure the spooky [TS]

00:13:25   action in a distance that makes my [TS]

00:13:26   daughter get up at 6:00 a.m. every day [TS]

00:13:28   yeah oh she gets up regularly at 6:00 [TS]

00:13:31   every day pretty on the regular this is [TS]

00:13:33   that shitty time of year when it's just [TS]

00:13:35   so goddamn bright all the time it's [TS]

00:13:37   bright on that bedtime we try really [TS]

00:13:40   hard we try so hard to encourage and [TS]

00:13:45   enforce a like we're moving toward [TS]

00:13:47   bedtime at 7:30 no later than 8:00 and [TS]

00:13:50   these days it's not unusual for her to [TS]

00:13:51   be reading until 10:00 and then books up [TS]

00:13:54   at 6:00 and that's not enough time for a [TS]

00:13:55   little kid so you know you start you [TS]

00:13:58   start rattling the chicken bones trying [TS]

00:14:00   to figure out what to do it's all I'm [TS]

00:14:01   saying yeah right well you put you [TS]

00:14:03   you're right you take two electrons you [TS]

00:14:06   Miriam put them in separate boxes take [TS]

00:14:07   them across the world they stay married [TS]

00:14:11   that's uh you know we don't know why but [TS]

00:14:13   they like try maybe maybe maybe [TS]

00:14:16   electronic love electronic marriage yeah [TS]

00:14:19   right right so it's uh it's an electron [TS]

00:14:24   that's the same-sex marriage - they're [TS]

00:14:26   they're you know they're both negative - [TS]

00:14:28   like a sex marriage yeah and then if you [TS]

00:14:31   bring in a third partner you call that [TS]

00:14:33   an open eye on like you bring in [TS]

00:14:36   somebody else you know but with consent [TS]

00:14:38   sure and now you've got you got [TS]

00:14:40   something more we're open involving [TS]

00:14:41   electrons maybe a bathrobe but but [TS]

00:14:43   that's a polyamorous kind of molecule at [TS]

00:14:47   the atomic level I feel like there's a [TS]

00:14:50   there's a lot more acceptance of a poly [TS]

00:14:52   lifestyle mm-hmm and that's a thing that [TS]

00:14:55   we're evolving normative though you [TS]

00:14:57   don't think like everything wants to [TS]

00:14:58   bind a carbon you don't think that's a [TS]

00:15:00   normative from an elemental point of [TS]

00:15:03   view like a lot I think a lot of a lot [TS]

00:15:07   at the atomic level a lot of things do [TS]

00:15:08   want to bind to carbon but not [TS]

00:15:10   everything well it could be controlled a [TS]

00:15:12   high charisma and everybody just likes [TS]

00:15:13   carbon what what I don't understand is [TS]

00:15:17   how to apply that how that is affecting [TS]

00:15:24   what we think of as personality [TS]

00:15:26   mmm right like how much of your [TS]

00:15:29   personality how much of mine which seem [TS]

00:15:31   you know which we're always curious [TS]

00:15:33   about is this genetic but like at some [TS]

00:15:38   level is it atomic at our consciousness [TS]

00:15:43   and and our curiosity about from whence [TS]

00:15:48   it derives like where does our [TS]

00:15:51   consciousness leave what where where is [TS]

00:15:54   it not biological but but atomic also [TS]

00:15:58   mm-hmm something I'm saying it's not [TS]

00:16:01   just like I go to this ice-cream place a [TS]

00:16:02   lot because I like this ice-cream place [TS]

00:16:04   there could be something deeper go on [TS]

00:16:05   like which I'm genetically predisposed [TS]

00:16:07   to go to this ice-cream place but what [TS]

00:16:09   if it is happening at a much deeper do [TS]

00:16:10   where I atomically need to be at this [TS]

00:16:12   ice-cream place and I don't know sure [TS]

00:16:15   like yeah like where we can kind of [TS]

00:16:18   accept that when the moon is closer to [TS]

00:16:21   the earth or when the moon is full [TS]

00:16:23   although I'm not exactly sure how that [TS]

00:16:25   would work but like it is cool John it's [TS]

00:16:27   all it's all about its optics that's [TS]

00:16:29   right [TS]

00:16:29   it's optics but but but we do talk about [TS]

00:16:31   the way the moon pulls on us we can see [TS]

00:16:35   it pull on the oceans that's measurable [TS]

00:16:37   but what we don't think about is that [TS]

00:16:40   there's nothing that has ever happened [TS]

00:16:42   in our entire like the entire awareness [TS]

00:16:47   that isn't affected by gravity we're [TS]

00:16:49   bathing in it all the time and we don't [TS]

00:16:51   know what it is and gravity is like it [TS]

00:16:56   has a real pull on us hmm and so what it [TS]

00:17:00   what role is that playing it's playing [TS]

00:17:02   every role mm-hmm and we don't know we [TS]

00:17:04   don't know what it is we don't know how [TS]

00:17:06   to really measure it and we don't know [TS]

00:17:11   how it changes we don't know like I mean [TS]

00:17:15   does is gravity a wave or a particle or [TS]

00:17:18   is gravity changing all the time under [TS]

00:17:21   our feet in imperceptible ways oh I like [TS]

00:17:25   that we're too close to it yeah right I [TS]

00:17:28   mean you know it from day to day our are [TS]

00:17:30   your moods which seem because because I [TS]

00:17:33   see all the time someone's mood [TS]

00:17:36   our product of their emotions and they [TS]

00:17:39   and those emotions and that and their [TS]

00:17:43   then [TS]

00:17:44   sense of what is reasonable and rational [TS]

00:17:47   it feels very real to them this is but [TS]

00:17:50   this is their rational mind is telling [TS]

00:17:53   them that this you treat them on the [TS]

00:17:54   street and ask them about the situation [TS]

00:17:56   they would very likely give you a [TS]

00:17:58   completely different answer about what [TS]

00:18:00   the right thing to do is but you don't [TS]

00:18:02   pause for a minute because of some [TS]

00:18:03   atomic emotional decision yeah right I [TS]

00:18:06   mean and it's part of it's part of kind [TS]

00:18:08   of wrestling with depression [TS]

00:18:10   what makes depression insidious is that [TS]

00:18:13   it does not it it acts upon your [TS]

00:18:16   rational mind so you can you can explain [TS]

00:18:20   your feelings very articulately and it [TS]

00:18:23   is hard to refute it's hard to argue [TS]

00:18:25   with because you're using that part of [TS]

00:18:28   your mind it's just that it's broken yes [TS]

00:18:30   and so underneath us right there like is [TS]

00:18:34   gravity I mean I feel like all of [TS]

00:18:37   physics sort of is like well gravity [TS]

00:18:40   here women we understand it's like the [TS]

00:18:42   thing or one of the big big things one [TS]

00:18:46   of the major forces but it's the it's [TS]

00:18:48   the weakest force pospos idli mm-hm and [TS]

00:18:53   it acts upon the it acts at the greatest [TS]

00:18:56   distance and is it underneath is it [TS]

00:18:59   underneath everything is it the is it [TS]

00:19:01   the static or is it the governing hand [TS]

00:19:04   hmm so looks like Eugen you've had that [TS]

00:19:08   experience where you're on a bus and the [TS]

00:19:11   the bus next to you starts moving and it [TS]

00:19:13   feels like you're going backwards right [TS]

00:19:15   I don't talk about time travel but it [TS]

00:19:17   but in that instance so you say oh I got [TS]

00:19:20   my grown ass man I know what's happening [TS]

00:19:22   here that's just because of proximity [TS]

00:19:24   parallax effect you you notice that [TS]

00:19:26   because you notice that but like the [TS]

00:19:28   thing is if you're on a green screen and [TS]

00:19:29   you're on a bus next to another bus and [TS]

00:19:31   you both were going exactly 100 miles an [TS]

00:19:32   hour it would feel like you're both [TS]

00:19:34   standing still is what I'm saying even [TS]

00:19:35   if you had 500 buses all I can't do the [TS]

00:19:38   math I'm not good at word problems but I [TS]

00:19:39   think in that case you're saying gravity [TS]

00:19:41   could be the same same kind of thing you [TS]

00:19:42   don't you don't notice the gravity [TS]

00:19:43   because because the gravity is doing [TS]

00:19:45   something spooky right you're in right [TS]

00:19:47   now how would you know so you look over [TS]

00:19:49   at a [TS]

00:19:49   cap right as the cars driving at a [TS]

00:19:52   certain point certain sort of rpm it [TS]

00:19:55   suddenly looks like the wheel is [TS]

00:19:56   spinning back where laggin wheel effect [TS]

00:19:58   the wagon wheel effect but what happens [TS]

00:20:00   if you look over and it has that [TS]

00:20:02   appearance but the person in that car [TS]

00:20:04   actually has a spinner hubcap right and [TS]

00:20:08   the spinner hubcap is actually spinning [TS]

00:20:10   a weirdly relative to the RPM of the [TS]

00:20:13   wheel but you have taught yourself that [TS]

00:20:16   that's the wagon wheel effect but then [TS]

00:20:18   it's just some trippy donk that's got as [TS]

00:20:21   bitters turns out what boy that's a huge [TS]

00:20:24   that's a huge turns out look at all your [TS]

00:20:26   fancy college education reading [TS]

00:20:28   Wikipedia know that what you gonna do [TS]

00:20:30   about that now maybe that's just a [TS]

00:20:31   spinner asshole [TS]

00:20:32   so maybe sneaky action boo-ki action at [TS]

00:20:35   a distance is just some shit that's [TS]

00:20:37   bouncing off some layer of gravity's [TS]

00:20:39   that we can't know at this at this [TS]

00:20:41   juncture mm-hmm and popping up somewhere [TS]

00:20:44   else and it's just a ricochet that's the [TS]

00:20:47   simplest the simplest thing in the world [TS]

00:20:49   it's being transmitted through this [TS]

00:20:51   gravity pipeline that's all around us [TS]

00:20:53   all the time it's a quantum computer hmm [TS]

00:20:57   uh and and someday right someday [TS]

00:21:01   somebody's going to have a better theory [TS]

00:21:03   of gravity and we're gonna all go oh it [TS]

00:21:05   was that all along or you know because [TS]

00:21:09   it's so it's so all around is it's so [TS]

00:21:12   pervasive and it's it seems like almost [TS]

00:21:14   just that we don't have that it's a [TS]

00:21:17   thought technology like trying to [TS]

00:21:19   scratch your fingernail with the same [TS]

00:21:20   fingernail picking up the tweezers with [TS]

00:21:22   tweezers like how you gonna do that [TS]

00:21:23   right what at how can you know if we're [TS]

00:21:27   living in a Giants thumbnail how would [TS]

00:21:28   we even know is do when you see green is [TS]

00:21:30   it the same green that I see but [TS]

00:21:32   actually real science they're gonna need [TS]

00:21:33   to address in the coming days yeah what [TS]

00:21:35   if our whole universe is an atom inside [TS]

00:21:37   of the fingertip of a giant beam and now [TS]

00:21:39   the thing is what if you have an entire [TS]

00:21:41   universe living in your nails which I [TS]

00:21:43   was life a garden or whatnot I would [TS]

00:21:45   totally believe that was really very [TS]

00:21:47   disturbing you know what it is it's [TS]

00:21:49   fractals fractals I'm in a bra tie and [TS]

00:21:53   physics action at a distance is the [TS]

00:21:54   concept that an object can be moved [TS]

00:21:56   changed or otherwise I know you know [TS]

00:21:57   this or otherwise affected without being [TS]

00:21:59   physically touched as in mechanical [TS]

00:22:01   contact that is it is the non [TS]

00:22:03   local interaction of objects that are [TS]

00:22:05   separated in space pioneering physicist [TS]

00:22:08   Albert Einstein described the phenomenon [TS]

00:22:09   as spooky action at a distance he was so [TS]

00:22:12   smart mm-hmm he knows what to do this [TS]

00:22:15   whoa he sure does around for nighttime [TS]

00:22:20   travel but yeah like so sore we're gonna [TS]

00:22:23   talk about such so so I sit here and I [TS]

00:22:27   think about a friend and then the phone [TS]

00:22:28   rings and it's that friend ah do you [TS]

00:22:32   think that's like a deja vu type [TS]

00:22:34   situation cuz I've had I've had that [TS]

00:22:35   happen a lot of places where I go I have [TS]

00:22:37   this sudden feeling of like oh this [TS]

00:22:38   thing is about to happen and then that [TS]

00:22:40   thing happens did you cause that call to [TS]

00:22:43   happen or to gravity change the way you [TS]

00:22:45   perceive the calls reception yeah at [TS]

00:22:48   some point it's it would be one thing [TS]

00:22:50   for me to say I you know I am I shook my [TS]

00:22:55   I shook my moneymaker mm-hmm over here [TS]

00:22:59   and a friend uh in Boston who had a who [TS]

00:23:04   had the same moneymaker we bought him at [TS]

00:23:06   the same time my friend in Boston [TS]

00:23:08   decided shake his moneymaker [TS]

00:23:09   okay okay that's Samson right that's one [TS]

00:23:11   thing mm-hmm [TS]

00:23:13   where it feels like there's some kind of [TS]

00:23:15   energetic bonding within the object [TS]

00:23:20   though we make a huge differentiation in [TS]

00:23:26   the world of ideas I had an idea of my [TS]

00:23:29   friend and my friend also had the idea [TS]

00:23:32   of me and we both thought to talk on the [TS]

00:23:36   phone and and and who had the idea first [TS]

00:23:40   right my friend called me first but but [TS]

00:23:42   did I trigger that with my idea or did [TS]

00:23:45   he have the idea and I was the one being [TS]

00:23:46   triggered or did you know like and not [TS]

00:23:49   to talk about time travel but demand we [TS]

00:23:51   had how would you know yeah did he send [TS]

00:23:53   something out that that arrived at me [TS]

00:23:56   before the call but we make that [TS]

00:23:58   differentiation because the ideas feel [TS]

00:24:00   like we're generating them they feel [TS]

00:24:02   like they belong to us and that we are [TS]

00:24:05   their source but are we what if the song [TS]

00:24:08   is singing us well that's the thing you [TS]

00:24:14   experience so much as an artist where [TS]

00:24:15   you're like I'm sitting down at the [TS]

00:24:17   today and just going to take her around [TS]

00:24:18   and all of a sudden you write your best [TS]

00:24:22   song right and it's like where the fuck [TS]

00:24:24   did that hiding that I mean how do you [TS]

00:24:26   have you how do you regenerate that [TS]

00:24:29   tomorrow you know yeah and is it is it [TS]

00:24:32   are there just other I mean I think a [TS]

00:24:35   lot of artists even ones that are [TS]

00:24:37   agnostic or even ones that are [TS]

00:24:39   science-based artists like like dr. [TS]

00:24:43   Demento uh we all kind of agree that [TS]

00:24:48   sometimes fully formed songs come to us [TS]

00:24:52   in a in an envelope you know then but [TS]

00:24:56   that almost a collision yeah but so [TS]

00:25:00   God's ready like a Kubla Kahn type [TS]

00:25:01   situation it just comes where you go [TS]

00:25:04   down for your opium nap you wake up wake [TS]

00:25:05   up and you got an epic poem in you yeah [TS]

00:25:08   except it feels like you're working I [TS]

00:25:10   mean you're you're not just sitting [TS]

00:25:11   there taking dictation although that is [TS]

00:25:13   a that is a phrase luckily the [TS]

00:25:15   well-prepared yeah yeah and you sit down [TS]

00:25:18   you're like this this board this chord [TS]

00:25:20   follows that and then you're like this [TS]

00:25:22   court I would never have done that [TS]

00:25:24   before but I did it today because I am [TS]

00:25:26   creative but it happened so fast that [TS]

00:25:29   you feel like if I if creativity is a [TS]

00:25:32   thing that I can that I have perfectly [TS]

00:25:35   harnessed or if creativity is a thing [TS]

00:25:37   that's just the product of my own [TS]

00:25:39   components why am I so incapable of [TS]

00:25:43   doing this on demand you know and why [TS]

00:25:46   when it works and when it happens is it [TS]

00:25:48   does it feel so miraculous to me and [TS]

00:25:51   it's just like why did I choose that but [TS]

00:25:52   I did and pow how would you know I mean [TS]

00:25:55   in my case how did I remember and [TS]

00:25:57   without getting a reminder I just [TS]

00:25:59   remembered that it's trashed and I had [TS]

00:26:00   to take out the trash before I get the [TS]

00:26:02   reminder then I get the reminder later [TS]

00:26:03   and it's like alright it's trash day it [TS]

00:26:05   must because I already took out the [TS]

00:26:05   trash how does that happen [TS]

00:26:07   is that is that location specific [TS]

00:26:08   gravity is that spooky tree Austin's [TS]

00:26:11   that could also be one in seven chance [TS]

00:26:13   okay there's also ice it's a bit the [TS]

00:26:17   birthday party problem the another thing [TS]

00:26:20   is though like for example here's [TS]

00:26:21   another thing I'm very interesting that [TS]

00:26:22   idea of naming and measuring because [TS]

00:26:24   once you can name things and then name [TS]

00:26:26   them more precisely you can measure them [TS]

00:26:28   and they can measure them more [TS]

00:26:29   I think stuff gets super interesting I [TS]

00:26:30   don't get into a spectrum disorder the [TS]

00:26:33   whore time travel no please no but but [TS]

00:26:36   you know I think it's super interesting [TS]

00:26:37   that all the kids who get tossed into [TS]

00:26:40   this one classroom when I was even let's [TS]

00:26:42   say an eighth grade but there's so many [TS]

00:26:45   different ways to name and measure like [TS]

00:26:47   what's going on and we're able to do [TS]

00:26:49   better things for those students because [TS]

00:26:51   now we have a way to name and measure it [TS]

00:26:53   I'll give you another one okay I [TS]

00:26:54   mentioned before I don't talk about [TS]

00:26:56   about wearables but but I I have have [TS]

00:26:59   dingus that attracts my motion like my [TS]

00:27:02   sleep and one of the things that can do [TS]

00:27:03   is my dingus can tell when I have walked [TS]

00:27:07   up steps and you know how it works [TS]

00:27:11   cuz I'd really understand how it works I [TS]

00:27:14   think it might be local gravity specific [TS]

00:27:16   mainly what it's doing supposedly is [TS]

00:27:18   it'll detect you just walked up you just [TS]

00:27:21   took 13 steps and the barometric [TS]

00:27:24   pressure changed a certain amount in [TS]

00:27:26   that 10 feet what your dingus is also a [TS]

00:27:31   barometer it's got it does barometric [TS]

00:27:33   pressure so for example yesterday we [TS]

00:27:34   grilled out which means going up and [TS]

00:27:35   down a bunch of steps even though I [TS]

00:27:37   didn't leave the house all day I got in [TS]

00:27:38   I got in 16 16 flights that's not [TS]

00:27:41   counting going down that's just going up [TS]

00:27:43   that it does that it doesn't does see I [TS]

00:27:46   wouldn't be able to detect that I [TS]

00:27:47   wouldn't be able to tell you oh I just [TS]

00:27:48   walked this many stories unless I was [TS]

00:27:49   counting did see that seems a little a [TS]

00:27:52   little magical we've had a way to name [TS]

00:27:53   it and now I have an easy way to measure [TS]

00:27:55   it and it's usually pretty accurate what [TS]

00:27:57   you think about that I think that that [TS]

00:28:00   is absolutely true I I just spent the [TS]

00:28:02   weekend at Lake Arrowhead in California [TS]

00:28:04   with these Judy that's fun con yeah [TS]

00:28:06   televisions famous Mac's phone call good [TS]

00:28:08   for you and Lake Arrowhead is at 1 mile [TS]

00:28:12   height it is same height up there as [TS]

00:28:14   Denver Colorado but it's not a city it's [TS]

00:28:17   the mile-high Lake and you immediately [TS]

00:28:21   because because there's no period of [TS]

00:28:23   acclamation you go from the deserts of [TS]

00:28:27   San Bernardino where people are having [TS]

00:28:29   swap meets at old drive-in movie [TS]

00:28:32   theaters where they're selling each [TS]

00:28:33   other Chevy truck parts and the air [TS]

00:28:36   feels like it is made out of play-doh [TS]

00:28:37   and then all of a sudden you're a mile [TS]

00:28:41   up and you can I mean you [TS]

00:28:42   wave your hand through the air and you [TS]

00:28:44   feel that there is less of it mm-hmm and [TS]

00:28:46   it rate isn't just that you're tired and [TS]

00:28:49   it isn't just that you're dehydrated and [TS]

00:28:52   it isn't just that you're kind of [TS]

00:28:53   panting for breath but there's just less [TS]

00:28:55   of what we know I mean there's just less [TS]

00:28:57   of what we depend on up there and uh the [TS]

00:29:02   squirrels are smaller yeah you know [TS]

00:29:04   small squirrels are that's a that's [TS]

00:29:07   something you you don't want to see [TS]

00:29:08   right the first time I makes you feel [TS]

00:29:10   first time I saw a fat squirrel blew my [TS]

00:29:11   mind there's two things do two things [TS]

00:29:13   about on would be ping-pong but but I [TS]

00:29:15   spent a lot of time growing up with [TS]

00:29:17   Florida where we have super skinny [TS]

00:29:19   squirrels I mean they are crazy skinny [TS]

00:29:22   guys how skinny they were until my lady [TS]

00:29:24   friend and I went to her home in [TS]

00:29:25   Baltimore and I saw a squirrel that was [TS]

00:29:29   fat and black it was super fat and super [TS]

00:29:32   black and it changed my life well and [TS]

00:29:35   that's probably it probably has to do [TS]

00:29:36   with the specific gravity of Towson and [TS]

00:29:39   and also the fact that or excuse me [TS]

00:29:41   Phoenix it was Phoenix ethnically they [TS]

00:29:43   have a Phoenix in Maryland - and and did [TS]

00:29:46   you know that rose from the ashes it [TS]

00:29:48   rose from the ashes of whatever of like [TS]

00:29:50   Frederick's town ah this is something [TS]

00:29:54   bringing the wars by by the city and [TS]

00:29:56   other ones by the river but in any case [TS]

00:29:58   I went back to Florida and I had a whole [TS]

00:30:00   new squirrels eye view of I realized it [TS]

00:30:04   was probably it was very very normative [TS]

00:30:07   of me to expect squirrels to be a [TS]

00:30:08   certain way well you know Florida does [TS]

00:30:10   not have a lot of squirrel food line on [TS]

00:30:12   the ground in there and you know it's [TS]

00:30:13   the fit and they have mange Florida [TS]

00:30:16   squirrels remain James high specific [TS]

00:30:18   gravity you got whatever can survive [TS]

00:30:20   everywhere right I mean squirrels are [TS]

00:30:22   fucking everywhere but here in Seattle [TS]

00:30:24   squirrels are their sides [TS]

00:30:25   size of cats no kidding there yeah [TS]

00:30:28   there's so much squirrel uh it's like a [TS]

00:30:31   squirrel banquet here Seattle squirrels [TS]

00:30:34   the girls are 15 a great name for a [TS]

00:30:36   pretty Oh the Seattle squirrels Seattle [TS]

00:30:39   squirrels that feels like a softball [TS]

00:30:41   team look at those little eyes yeah [TS]

00:30:44   and Seattle squirrels are super adorable [TS]

00:30:45   and their their tails are so fluffy [TS]

00:30:49   they're just fluffy up here and they're [TS]

00:30:52   they're friendly they're they feel very [TS]

00:30:56   de mess [TS]

00:30:56   dick I have squirrels all over here I [TS]

00:30:59   just was sitting in my kitchen making a [TS]

00:31:01   pot of coffee and I watched a squirrel [TS]

00:31:03   do a thing that always amazes me which [TS]

00:31:05   is he was going along a fence but he [TS]

00:31:08   wasn't going along the top of the fence [TS]

00:31:09   which seems like again if you are if you [TS]

00:31:13   have a relationship to gravity like I do [TS]

00:31:14   and you're you're traversing a fence you [TS]

00:31:17   would get up on top of it [TS]

00:31:19   and run along the top of it it's what [TS]

00:31:21   you see squirrels do they're certainly [TS]

00:31:23   capable but this squirrel was who kind [TS]

00:31:27   of running across the side of the fence [TS]

00:31:30   like skittering like skittering [TS]

00:31:34   skittering as though the fence was lying [TS]

00:31:36   flat except it was upright just going [TS]

00:31:38   straight across the side of the fence [TS]

00:31:40   magalie like us the the squirrel [TS]

00:31:42   matrix-like it's it's like a bullet time [TS]

00:31:44   squirrel that's think that's insane yeah [TS]

00:31:46   like it's running up the side of a wall [TS]

00:31:47   except it's running sideways along a [TS]

00:31:50   wall and I'm like squirrel why are you [TS]

00:31:52   doing it Shirley takes more effort then [TS]

00:31:55   either to run along the ground which [TS]

00:31:57   you're only four feet from or along the [TS]

00:31:59   top of the fence which are also only [TS]

00:32:01   four feet from it's an eight-foot fence [TS]

00:32:02   he must have his wires he had some [TS]

00:32:05   squirrel reason but he has the [TS]

00:32:07   athleticism and the fluffiness to pull [TS]

00:32:11   that shit off up at Lake Arrowhead the [TS]

00:32:15   squirrels are the size of a teacup I [TS]

00:32:17   think they're called the teacup [TS]

00:32:18   squirrels like arrows yep yep yep mm-hmm [TS]

00:32:20   and they are freaky right I mean those [TS]

00:32:22   squirrels can hide in a pine cone which [TS]

00:32:25   is not what you say is that was that [TS]

00:32:28   what John circus would call an [TS]

00:32:29   adaptation and evolutionary determinism [TS]

00:32:31   adaptation is that what that is [TS]

00:32:32   yeah I bet I bet they'll they either [TS]

00:32:34   they evolved uh to live in a pine cone [TS]

00:32:37   because that was the I mean they're you [TS]

00:32:39   know pine cone would make a nice house [TS]

00:32:40   if you were a small it's good maybe it [TS]

00:32:42   took dozens of years of trying to sleep [TS]

00:32:43   in different things before arriving at a [TS]

00:32:45   pine cone and against but they've got [TS]

00:32:48   two different tracks here that are [TS]

00:32:49   coming together you get the pine cones [TS]

00:32:50   over here you get squirrels over there [TS]

00:32:51   and you found some kind of a kind of a [TS]

00:32:54   relationship maybe maybe the pine cone [TS]

00:32:56   likes to be slept in sure both things [TS]

00:32:58   were evolving toward each other because [TS]

00:33:00   they wanted it mm-hmm right untied but [TS]

00:33:04   untouched spooky action at a distance [TS]

00:33:07   I feel like up at Lake Arrowhead right [TS]

00:33:10   so gravity waves they have got to be [TS]

00:33:13   different up there - no no question but [TS]

00:33:15   but how would we even know I don't [TS]

00:33:16   there's even way to measure it the funny [TS]

00:33:19   thing about going this year was and you [TS]

00:33:21   know this true you know this - from past [TS]

00:33:24   experience yeah there are a lot of these [TS]

00:33:26   things in our lives that that I mean I [TS]

00:33:30   used to look at a calendar of the year [TS]

00:33:32   and it just looked like a giant empty [TS]

00:33:35   mystery to me I would sit at New Year's [TS]

00:33:38   Eve and I would make some uh some dumb [TS]

00:33:41   pronouncement about the coming year but [TS]

00:33:45   it you know the things that were the [TS]

00:33:48   things that loomed were Presidents Day [TS]

00:33:51   Valentine's Day st. Patrick's Day [TS]

00:33:55   dot dot dot yeah but Labor Memorial Day [TS]

00:33:59   yeah the last day of school fourth of [TS]

00:34:02   July [TS]

00:34:03   Labor Day Halloween oh my birth I am and [TS]

00:34:07   and beyond that I had no idea what was [TS]

00:34:09   going to happen I mean none and then as [TS]

00:34:12   I and that frankly persisted well well [TS]

00:34:16   well into my late 20s and 30s even and [TS]

00:34:21   then when I did when I actually had a [TS]

00:34:23   career in music it involved a certain [TS]

00:34:27   amount of booking a tour in October but [TS]

00:34:31   we're booking it in April or June and it [TS]

00:34:35   was this amazing thing of like well up [TS]

00:34:37   ahead there's this thing that I know is [TS]

00:34:39   coming right and it's and it's real and [TS]

00:34:44   and so everything that I'm doing now is [TS]

00:34:47   in the shadow of this event and in my [TS]

00:34:51   future that I that's unknowable to me [TS]

00:34:53   although it's been meticulously planned [TS]

00:34:55   and you talk you talk to another person [TS]

00:34:57   about it it isn't like you said I'm [TS]

00:35:00   going to lose 400 pounds by Flag Bay [TS]

00:35:02   it's like you actually talk to somebody [TS]

00:35:04   else you won't talk about time travel [TS]

00:35:05   but you were both able to to work [TS]

00:35:08   together to wrap your head around the [TS]

00:35:10   set of dependencies that would enable [TS]

00:35:12   you to be in some college town I'm not [TS]

00:35:14   getting paid enough to do a rock show [TS]

00:35:15   you were able to see past those [TS]

00:35:18   signposts and [TS]

00:35:20   your birthday to be able to put together [TS]

00:35:22   a package sure somebody and not just [TS]

00:35:25   that somebody in st. Louis just wrote my [TS]

00:35:27   name down on their calendar and it [TS]

00:35:29   stayed and they and it stayed and that [TS]

00:35:32   and that calendar went to the local [TS]

00:35:34   alternative newspaper even though it [TS]

00:35:36   hasn't happened yet [TS]

00:35:37   right and that became that became a [TS]

00:35:41   really trippy thing that I that I [TS]

00:35:43   started and I I remember it was kind of [TS]

00:35:45   like the moment that you go from having [TS]

00:35:46   one key to four keys on your key ring it [TS]

00:35:50   was like uh by 2003 I could not only [TS]

00:35:56   tell you what I was doing in October but [TS]

00:35:57   because South by Southwest was a [TS]

00:35:59   flagpole in a calendar it became the [TS]

00:36:03   first thing that wasn't on everybody's [TS]

00:36:07   calendar right that wasn't Valentine's [TS]

00:36:09   Day it became the first thing that was [TS]

00:36:11   on my calendar and my gangs calendar but [TS]

00:36:15   it was going to be there every year [TS]

00:36:16   South by Southwest you knew what you [TS]

00:36:19   were going to be doing during South by [TS]

00:36:21   Southwest because we all went there and [TS]

00:36:23   then there were these tours that moved [TS]

00:36:26   around and these record release dates [TS]

00:36:27   that moved around that you could see in [TS]

00:36:28   the future oh but in the last eight [TS]

00:36:31   years I have planted so many of these [TS]

00:36:35   fucking flags Sketchfest in San [TS]

00:36:38   Francisco Joko Cruz Max von Khan for a [TS]

00:36:42   while there it was Comic Con was in [TS]

00:36:45   there and you know planting all these [TS]

00:36:48   different things see Fair in Seattle and [TS]

00:36:50   so forth where I knew I had a table gay [TS]

00:36:53   shion's it was it was the way my year [TS]

00:36:56   was built and there were there were [TS]

00:37:00   several years there where it felt like [TS]

00:37:02   well this is my life now I have I have [TS]

00:37:05   lots and lots of of events in the course [TS]

00:37:10   of a year that are cemented in there [TS]

00:37:13   like standing standing events standing [TS]

00:37:15   events right where I can where I could [TS]

00:37:17   put it into my calendar app and then [TS]

00:37:19   scroll down and say every year like [TS]

00:37:22   someone's birthday mm-hmm but then after [TS]

00:37:26   you do that seven years in a row you [TS]

00:37:28   start to feel like oh am i doing that [TS]

00:37:29   again mm-hmm [TS]

00:37:31   like as now my life become a thing where [TS]

00:37:34   where I'm not evolving anymore I'm doing [TS]

00:37:37   all these things like I'm just making [TS]

00:37:40   the rounds right hmm and and that had [TS]

00:37:45   and that can be a bummer and this year [TS]

00:37:48   on my way to max funk on I stir I had [TS]

00:37:50   that feeling I was just like I've done [TS]

00:37:53   this a lot and is this what I'm doing [TS]

00:37:57   again and I got up to the mountain and [TS]

00:37:59   by the time I left the mountain after [TS]

00:38:01   three days it felt like everything old [TS]

00:38:05   was new again right it was a really good [TS]

00:38:07   year and and it validated at least that [TS]

00:38:13   standing event you know that and that's [TS]

00:38:15   and that seems to be now a new process [TS]

00:38:18   for me go around and check in with all [TS]

00:38:20   these pylons and you know and have to [TS]

00:38:24   have to re-up with them and say this you [TS]

00:38:28   know this isn't a part of this isn't an [TS]

00:38:30   involuntary part of my life I can uproot [TS]

00:38:33   all these fence poles if I want but if I [TS]

00:38:36   go to them and and they then they still [TS]

00:38:39   work or they work in a new way I guess [TS]

00:38:42   um it's also okay to keep them and and [TS]

00:38:48   not have to and not feel like evolution [TS]

00:38:50   into it into a bigger but into a new [TS]

00:38:53   person I automatically negates these [TS]

00:38:56   things you're not just adding a bunch of [TS]

00:38:57   compulsory flag days like stay right or [TS]

00:39:01   or um you know or reflexively tearing it [TS]

00:39:05   all down because that's how you become a [TS]

00:39:07   new person [TS]

00:39:08   that's it's it's been a it's been kind [TS]

00:39:11   of a weird year because 2016 was such a [TS]

00:39:14   shit show from start to finish uh that [TS]

00:39:18   and and and it and it washed over into [TS]

00:39:22   the first half of 2017 so it felt like [TS]

00:39:24   talking with you personally or as a bezu [TS]

00:39:27   culture for me personally for everyone I [TS]

00:39:31   know personally and for the culture seem [TS]

00:39:33   a little bit cursed it really did [TS]

00:39:35   nothing good happened in 2016 as far as [TS]

00:39:38   I can tell uh but and and first part of [TS]

00:39:42   2017 it said [TS]

00:39:44   really felt like is this our new reality [TS]

00:39:45   like everybody good dies out but like [TS]

00:39:49   everybody good dies and not and nothing [TS]

00:39:51   good happens but now it feels like [TS]

00:39:54   people are starting to pick up the [TS]

00:39:56   pieces and you know we are living at a [TS]

00:39:59   new reality but but we feel may be even [TS]

00:40:02   more charged to build good things I [TS]

00:40:04   don't know I don't know it's I'm feeling [TS]

00:40:06   up feeling a little hopeful well that's [TS]

00:40:08   it that's wonderful to hear [TS]

00:40:09   I another thing is how you described [TS]

00:40:15   that whole thing like okay you look at [TS]

00:40:17   your calendar coming up for the next [TS]

00:40:18   year and you going you know last day of [TS]

00:40:20   school I can imagine what that will be [TS]

00:40:22   like for me and Christmas I can imagine [TS]

00:40:25   what that will be like for me but [TS]

00:40:26   another funny thing and maybe this is an [TS]

00:40:29   old man thing but is that as that speeds [TS]

00:40:32   up and it's really felt like it's been [TS]

00:40:33   speeding up since especially high school [TS]

00:40:35   like whoa what happened there how did [TS]

00:40:37   that go by and you know and like for [TS]

00:40:39   example I use google photos and Google [TS]

00:40:41   photos well every few days like throw up [TS]

00:40:43   a like hey relive this day I'm just [TS]

00:40:46   other services that do this be like [TS]

00:40:47   really this day from you know five years [TS]

00:40:49   ago no way is that five years ago and [TS]

00:40:52   then I look at my kid in the picture I'm [TS]

00:40:54   like that was totally five years ago so [TS]

00:40:56   the other excite thing is it isn't just [TS]

00:40:57   that I can look at my calendar and see [TS]

00:40:59   how I will feel about that day but more [TS]

00:41:01   increasingly think about the people [TS]

00:41:03   around you and go like oh man [TS]

00:41:05   this is just gonna be ten this year [TS]

00:41:07   that's fucked up like how did that [TS]

00:41:09   happen I don't want that on my calendar [TS]

00:41:11   I'm not trying it just smoking I think [TS]

00:41:14   she's getting very tall the weird thing [TS]

00:41:17   about babies too is and I think this is [TS]

00:41:20   a this has been a huge lesson to me was [TS]

00:41:25   when my baby was born and people would [TS]

00:41:28   come by to drop off a casserole mm-hmm [TS]

00:41:30   like congratulations you had a baby I'm [TS]

00:41:33   bringing you a casserole and they [TS]

00:41:35   brought their babies who were a year old [TS]

00:41:39   hopelessly older than your child and [TS]

00:41:41   also grotesque you know a girl you know [TS]

00:41:46   I never hated anything more than a [TS]

00:41:47   seven-year-old my kid was born as like I [TS]

00:41:50   used to keep this thing around at this [TS]

00:41:51   point is worse than puberty these little [TS]

00:41:53   boys are the worst now they're so gross [TS]

00:41:55   and and the beat you know baby's head [TS]

00:41:58   grow faster than their bodies and so you [TS]

00:42:01   know there would be these nine month [TS]

00:42:02   olds or 1 year olds that would come with [TS]

00:42:04   their moms to drop off a casserole and [TS]

00:42:07   you're just like what kind of [TS]

00:42:08   encephalitis does your child have um [TS]

00:42:11   they just look just look unproportioned [TS]

00:42:14   or just like you spend all day staring [TS]

00:42:17   at a baby you get you can share it [TS]

00:42:18   you're uh you imprint on the baby yeah [TS]

00:42:21   and then your baby's one year old mm-hmm [TS]

00:42:23   and what's funny is when you look at a [TS]

00:42:25   newborn baby that baby doesn't look [TS]

00:42:27   strange it looks like a little baby I [TS]

00:42:28   mean a little wrinkled rotten little [TS]

00:42:30   acorn of a baby yeah but it doesn't look [TS]

00:42:33   weird right but then you look at a [TS]

00:42:36   three-year-old when you have a [TS]

00:42:37   one-year-old you're like whoa it's a [TS]

00:42:40   grotesque [TS]

00:42:40   yeah and that continues so I go to [TS]

00:42:42   elementary school now my kid is in [TS]

00:42:44   kindergarten and there are all these [TS]

00:42:46   fifth graders running around and I feel [TS]

00:42:49   like why are these people not building [TS]

00:42:50   trail I was mistaken it's not a junior [TS]

00:42:52   high thing it started fourth grade from [TS]

00:42:54   fourth grade till they're 22 they should [TS]

00:42:56   be working for the National Park Service [TS]

00:42:58   what 4th grade to 22 so proximately 12 [TS]

00:43:00   years of trail building think of the [TS]

00:43:02   trails we would have we have tremendous [TS]

00:43:04   tremendous trails and in the things at [TS]

00:43:05   first it would seem weird that they've [TS]

00:43:07   been conscripted into building trails [TS]

00:43:09   but I think really after a couple [TS]

00:43:10   generations it's just gonna feel like a [TS]

00:43:11   normal thing the thing is you're bonded [TS]

00:43:14   to your 10 year old so or your [TS]

00:43:15   nine-year-old so when she turns 10 is [TS]

00:43:17   fine you're tight Mia but you're not [TS]

00:43:20   gonna think I've had enough of this [TS]

00:43:22   child I want to send her to uh to work [TS]

00:43:25   for the forest [TS]

00:43:25   mm-hmm right she seems she seems normal [TS]

00:43:28   and like and like a wreath it's been a [TS]

00:43:31   reasonable progression yeah but from my [TS]

00:43:34   standpoint watching nine-year-olds run [TS]

00:43:35   around I'm like isn't there something [TS]

00:43:37   better we can be doing with these like [TS]

00:43:39   the good friar could be a private vote [TS]

00:43:40   you know maybe maybe there could be [TS]

00:43:42   something more like when you you make a [TS]

00:43:43   note maybe maybe the kids have like a [TS]

00:43:45   barcode or a QR code you can scan and [TS]

00:43:47   you know this kid looks like trouble [TS]

00:43:48   have enough people scan that kid trail [TS]

00:43:51   oh well yeah right why not I mean I knew [TS]

00:43:55   as tribute for them for the parks [TS]

00:43:56   department it's the lottery [TS]

00:44:00   except yeah instead of throw stones you [TS]

00:44:04   got to make your own clothes out of shit [TS]

00:44:05   you find by the road I've always thought [TS]

00:44:07   that that should be a thing that is true [TS]

00:44:09   on the roads every car has a barcode [TS]

00:44:11   if enough people scan your your your [TS]

00:44:14   barcode and put in asshole then your car [TS]

00:44:18   pulls over to the side of the road and [TS]

00:44:19   stops running enough people catch you [TS]

00:44:21   speeding and the governor kicks in guess [TS]

00:44:24   what now you're not going over 20 miles [TS]

00:44:26   an hour for a week it's like it's like [TS]

00:44:27   you go too fast you get too fast on your [TS]

00:44:29   internet and you use too much of your [TS]

00:44:31   internet and then they kick your way way [TS]

00:44:33   down as punishment for using too much [TS]

00:44:34   Internet [TS]

00:44:35   yeah they kick you down for using their [TS]

00:44:37   service I know I don't but but it feels [TS]

00:44:40   like it feels like maybe that is a way [TS]

00:44:44   that we could recapitulate the village [TS]

00:44:48   where everybody in the village knows [TS]

00:44:50   everybody else's business it takes this [TS]

00:44:51   village to scan a child that's right we [TS]

00:44:54   take away the anonymity of of our [TS]

00:44:57   metropolis I'd like to have a little bit [TS]

00:44:59   magnanimity there's a couple questions [TS]

00:45:01   like this into the trail I mean you know [TS]

00:45:03   don't go don't go out is one of the one [TS]

00:45:04   solution but also I mean yeah you don't [TS]

00:45:06   want to you don't want to be in in a in [TS]

00:45:08   a black mirror yeah well we're sitting [TS]

00:45:10   around the quad I just sit in the [TS]

00:45:12   cornfield I just want them to build [TS]

00:45:14   trail for no money for 12 years I don't [TS]

00:45:16   think that's too much to ask some of [TS]

00:45:17   these kids are a real problem John I you [TS]

00:45:20   know the thing about kids is that they [TS]

00:45:22   could self-select because I'm around [TS]

00:45:24   people all the time who because I'm [TS]

00:45:26   living in a world of liberal like modern [TS]

00:45:29   contemporary parents uh Ron people who [TS]

00:45:32   say well let me go ask my four-year-old [TS]

00:45:36   and see what she wants to do we always [TS]

00:45:38   do that yeah and it's like it's good to [TS]

00:45:42   take that into consideration but your [TS]

00:45:44   four-year-old sometimes just wants to [TS]

00:45:45   poop in their hand and throw it on the [TS]

00:45:47   wall that's true and if you're and you [TS]

00:45:50   are the grown-ups here and so eventually [TS]

00:45:53   you're gonna have too big a choice and I [TS]

00:45:56   think a lot of but but at a certain [TS]

00:45:58   point when they're 14 or even 10 I guess [TS]

00:46:02   what they want to do is a much bigger [TS]

00:46:05   part of your calculation and I think a [TS]

00:46:08   lot of 10 year olds just want to go do [TS]

00:46:12   something like weird and mechanical and [TS]

00:46:14   wouldn't it be great if we could also [TS]

00:46:16   it's like all those dummies that are [TS]

00:46:18   running on treadmills at the gym if the [TS]

00:46:21   Energy's going nowhere yeah if we could [TS]

00:46:23   just turn that into work [TS]

00:46:24   somehow tears in rain well this this [TS]

00:46:26   really hits close to home for me because [TS]

00:46:28   my daughter she's I don't say that she's [TS]

00:46:31   late to this she's been doing it a long [TS]

00:46:32   time but she's into the Minecraft which [TS]

00:46:34   is a video game that's kind of like Lego [TS]

00:46:36   you build stuff everything is a is a [TS]

00:46:38   cube and there's different kinds of [TS]

00:46:40   cubes and you can make this all this [TS]

00:46:41   amazing stuff so I'm just saying at this [TS]

00:46:43   point she already definitely has an [TS]

00:46:44   interest interest in infrastructure and [TS]

00:46:46   maybe I could leverage that if somebody [TS]

00:46:48   scan her hard enough five six people [TS]

00:46:49   scan her you know maybe she maybe she [TS]

00:46:51   goes to Oregon and makes a trail well [TS]

00:46:53   and minecraft does feel this is again on [TS]

00:46:55   the continuum of history and we're in [TS]

00:46:57   the middle of it minecraft has attracted [TS]

00:47:01   so much mind energy and so much time and [TS]

00:47:05   focus and like creative focus of such a [TS]

00:47:08   huge number of kids that we had never we [TS]

00:47:11   formerly didn't the all those kids were [TS]

00:47:14   not coordinated their efforts all across [TS]

00:47:17   America kids were building things with [TS]

00:47:19   Legos but there wasn't any central [TS]

00:47:21   repository they were they go under a [TS]

00:47:23   bushel basket right [TS]

00:47:25   I mean gravity was just pulling them and [TS]

00:47:28   in their own little muddy corner yeah [TS]

00:47:30   now we have all that collected energy [TS]

00:47:33   but we're still basically doing it and [TS]

00:47:35   making it making a thing that just is a [TS]

00:47:37   thing of itself it doesn't those [TS]

00:47:40   minecraft buildings aren't real hmm and [TS]

00:47:43   we're I think still thinking maybe in [TS]

00:47:47   terms of well we're all headed into this [TS]

00:47:51   virtual reality there we have the doors [TS]

00:47:54   are open the garage door is open down [TS]

00:47:55   we're gradually transferring our energy [TS]

00:47:58   into this space where think we're [TS]

00:48:01   unphysical things do become real because [TS]

00:48:05   they're real in this in this clewd mmm [TS]

00:48:12   they're only not real to us they're very [TS]

00:48:15   real to the people that are making them [TS]

00:48:16   right but they don't do actual work but [TS]

00:48:20   but increasingly if they're generating [TS]

00:48:22   bitcoins and how do you separate them [TS]

00:48:25   from things that are you know how do you [TS]

00:48:27   separate them from a windmill that's [TS]

00:48:28   turning that you know that's grinding [TS]

00:48:31   wheat in and making bread and windmills [TS]

00:48:34   don't make bread I know that so don't [TS]

00:48:35   please don't write in No [TS]

00:48:37   but but I don't necessarily know if that [TS]

00:48:41   we can't know right now if we are all [TS]

00:48:44   moving in there or if something is going [TS]

00:48:47   to come along and say wait this was a [TS]

00:48:50   this was a cul-de-sac and what we're [TS]

00:48:54   actually going to do is this you know [TS]

00:48:56   we're going to start using this [TS]

00:48:57   technology this way instead or you know [TS]

00:49:00   we're not settling this wild-west [TS]

00:49:02   of of minefield land where we're [TS]

00:49:07   building giant Eiffel Towers that [TS]

00:49:09   everybody can come see that was fun but [TS]

00:49:12   what that taught us is this what that [TS]

00:49:14   taught us is actually we're going to [TS]

00:49:15   start using phones that don't have [TS]

00:49:16   screens anymore we're gonna go back [TS]

00:49:18   we're gonna go back to flip phones right [TS]

00:49:20   back to mono mm-hmm who knows who knows [TS]

00:49:23   hmm how can we know how could we know [TS]

00:49:27   unless we wanted to talk about contract [TS]

00:49:30   mmm it's gonna have to come up at some [TS]

00:49:32   point but so I didn't use it as part of [TS]

00:49:34   it that minecraft is a little bit like [TS]

00:49:36   the exercise bike in the sense that like [TS]

00:49:38   do you think that should be actually and [TS]

00:49:40   again this when I'm not talking about [TS]

00:49:41   time travel but do you think those [TS]

00:49:42   should actually be generating something [TS]

00:49:44   for someone to live in somewhere where [TS]

00:49:46   that's another child in a Minecraft it [TS]

00:49:47   could be a squirrel who's tired of [TS]

00:49:48   living in a pine cone it could be could [TS]

00:49:50   be Jesse thorn who's up on a high [TS]

00:49:51   mountain shouldn't somebody be living [TS]

00:49:53   that or should we be harnessing the [TS]

00:49:54   energy in a spooky action sort of way to [TS]

00:49:56   direct all that activity is something [TS]

00:49:58   else some kind of an activity sink where [TS]

00:50:00   we could store all this like a battery [TS]

00:50:01   well what do you that's that is what I'm [TS]

00:50:05   saying [TS]

00:50:05   right like right so develop the first [TS]

00:50:06   one of these that we did was the the [TS]

00:50:10   widely distributed SETI work right [TS]

00:50:13   everybody right all the nerds around the [TS]

00:50:16   country set their computers so that when [TS]

00:50:18   they weren't actively working on them [TS]

00:50:20   they were using their distributed power [TS]

00:50:22   of all these IBM pcs with 128 K to to do [TS]

00:50:27   the you know the back-breaking labor of [TS]

00:50:29   of looking through all this data data [TS]

00:50:33   data data data data we don't have enough [TS]

00:50:36   room on our Cray supercomputer to [TS]

00:50:37   calculate all this fucking static and so [TS]

00:50:40   it's we're going to distribute it across [TS]

00:50:42   all these dumb compacts [TS]

00:50:45   and so but said he seems to be and and [TS]

00:50:50   and you know and part of like the [TS]

00:50:52   implication of the cloade [TS]

00:50:55   and oh and then the next thing was [TS]

00:50:56   file-sharing right then that that if you [TS]

00:50:59   went on and said I want to watch [TS]

00:51:00   Braveheart starring Mel Gibson uh I'm [TS]

00:51:05   gonna find it it's available out there [TS]

00:51:09   Emily announced ur type situation yeah [TS]

00:51:11   and the funny consequence of that was [TS]

00:51:14   the previous model of the last two [TS]

00:51:15   hundred years or whatever has been based [TS]

00:51:17   on privation and the idea of a limited [TS]

00:51:19   physical copy sitting in a store that [TS]

00:51:21   someone has a license to sell you going [TS]

00:51:23   to buy it that's one less copy in the [TS]

00:51:24   world not only was that up ended with [TS]

00:51:26   file-sharing but in fact turns out if [TS]

00:51:28   Britney Spears is mp3 was the most [TS]

00:51:31   popular mp3 you actually got it faster [TS]

00:51:33   not slower right right right that's not [TS]

00:51:37   just the license to sell that's a [TS]

00:51:38   license to ill mm-hmm-hmm but let you [TS]

00:51:41   look at somebody like an Elon Musk what [TS]

00:51:43   if what if an Elon Musk under you're a [TS]

00:51:44   fan of his work you could [TS]

00:51:45   similar-looking Elon Musk what if he [TS]

00:51:46   said hey who says batteries are only for [TS]

00:51:49   storing energy what if what about [TS]

00:51:52   battery the store different kinds of [TS]

00:51:53   things the obvious thing would be that [TS]

00:51:54   when you make your minecraft village [TS]

00:51:56   somehow I don't maybe your attention [TS]

00:51:57   goes into that you get attention sync [TS]

00:51:58   you get kind of a time battery are there [TS]

00:52:00   other kinds of things that could be [TS]

00:52:02   stored for future use inside of a [TS]

00:52:04   potentially renewable battery is that is [TS]

00:52:05   a cloud technology anybody is working on [TS]

00:52:07   right now exactamundo [TS]

00:52:10   so we know it's going somewhere all that [TS]

00:52:11   attention is going somewhere where are [TS]

00:52:13   we not capturing that if they're not [TS]

00:52:14   going to be building trail they should [TS]

00:52:15   at least be filling whatever the battery [TS]

00:52:17   is is is holding at a basic physical [TS]

00:52:20   level all of the typing that we all do [TS]

00:52:24   on our computer listen we think that [TS]

00:52:27   when we push the button down what we're [TS]

00:52:29   producing is a letter on our magic [TS]

00:52:31   screen okay but in fact we're also [TS]

00:52:35   generating heat that is dissipating [TS]

00:52:38   right and I don't mean battery heat but [TS]

00:52:40   you're pushing up and down on these [TS]

00:52:41   buttons so thermodynamically yeah right [TS]

00:52:45   on though we're pushing up and down on [TS]

00:52:46   these buttons and they are tiny levers [TS]

00:52:48   and they have resistance built into them [TS]

00:52:51   like there is resistance to make it feel [TS]

00:52:54   tactile we could be just using those tie [TS]

00:52:58   weird like unroll a piano key like in [TS]

00:53:02   big and dance a jig but we have these [TS]

00:53:07   little buttons because we like the feel [TS]

00:53:08   of them and we like the clickety [TS]

00:53:10   clackety sound but then all these are [TS]

00:53:12   the letters and all that heat makes [TS]

00:53:14   words the words make sentences so [TS]

00:53:16   science of something's accumulating it [TS]

00:53:18   is but what we're what we're missing is [TS]

00:53:22   that we could also be harnessing the [TS]

00:53:25   energy the tiny little energy if we had [TS]

00:53:29   little generators attached to the keys [TS]

00:53:32   of the keyboard sort of like we need a [TS]

00:53:34   kid you get one of those flashlights she [TS]

00:53:36   goes use use use use you it looks like [TS]

00:53:38   one of those things MOOCs use to get [TS]

00:53:40   their hands strong you go Zhu Zhu Zhu [TS]

00:53:42   you and that charges up the battery [TS]

00:53:43   similar kind of situation there's some [TS]

00:53:45   kind of a kinetic potential kinetic [TS]

00:53:47   energy that there's moving moving [TS]

00:53:49   through the device and is then getting [TS]

00:53:51   snowed in Elon Musk battery well yeah so [TS]

00:53:54   we we think of power generation through [TS]

00:53:56   through friction as being something that [TS]

00:53:59   we do on a large scale like at out of [TS]

00:54:00   the at a hydroelectric dam [TS]

00:54:03   we're running tons and tons of water [TS]

00:54:04   through these giant generators but if [TS]

00:54:07   every computer in the country had a tiny [TS]

00:54:10   little had tiny little generators under [TS]

00:54:12   every key but they were all linked [TS]

00:54:15   together in such a way that we were [TS]

00:54:17   generating megawatts of electricity just [TS]

00:54:20   from the action of our fingers pushing [TS]

00:54:22   these buttons up and down we think we're [TS]

00:54:25   doing one kind of work which is making [TS]

00:54:27   words but the actual but we're also [TS]

00:54:30   actually generating electricity just [TS]

00:54:33   like we were just like we are if we're [TS]

00:54:35   running on a treadmill [TS]

00:54:36   we're actually generating power [TS]

00:54:39   experience if this is not diminished at [TS]

00:54:41   all in fact we like we like the the [TS]

00:54:43   frisson as you say that that met shot in [TS]

00:54:44   the experience we like that but then [TS]

00:54:46   like where's that going to go [TS]

00:54:47   it's the regenerative braking concept [TS]

00:54:51   like if you take your battery-powered [TS]

00:54:53   car up to 80 miles an hour and then you [TS]

00:54:55   put on the brakes why don't you put some [TS]

00:54:56   of that energy back in the battery the [TS]

00:54:57   more you stop the more energy you get [TS]

00:54:59   the love you love you make is equal to [TS]

00:55:01   the love you take mm-hmm but so if you [TS]

00:55:05   then figure out a way to use mind to [TS]

00:55:08   capture mind energy the same way all [TS]

00:55:10   these kids out there making my [TS]

00:55:12   Kraft Eiffel Towers I don't mean to [TS]

00:55:16   suggest that we that we invent a game [TS]

00:55:19   that employs that power to actually [TS]

00:55:22   create something that the kids don't [TS]

00:55:25   that they're not aware they're creating [TS]

00:55:27   their play yes it they wouldn't miss it [TS]

00:55:29   they're already doing nothing to help [TS]

00:55:31   society at least we did whatever their [TS]

00:55:33   pleasure is and find some way to put it [TS]

00:55:34   into like a into a into a device a [TS]

00:55:37   storage device so kind of a kind of [TS]

00:55:38   existential hard drive or that they are [TS]

00:55:40   building a larger structure that they're [TS]

00:55:42   not aware of because the game that [TS]

00:55:45   they're playing like for instance I sit [TS]

00:55:47   in place fucking threes all day hey now [TS]

00:55:51   because I got back on the habit I [TS]

00:55:53   thought I I thought I had kicked it I [TS]

00:55:55   thought I could do it I thought I could [TS]

00:55:56   go bad I was bummed but I just play play [TS]

00:55:59   game on New Year's Eve yeah just to [TS]

00:56:01   celebrate my you know my independence [TS]

00:56:04   but what if moving those numbers around [TS]

00:56:07   was actually somehow also calculating [TS]

00:56:11   something and I shall show you something [TS]

00:56:15   here I just sent you a link to something [TS]

00:56:17   in Skype you don't have to click it but [TS]

00:56:18   let me just explain to you yes I have [TS]

00:56:20   them at how a problem I have home [TS]

00:56:21   automation I have things I have I have [TS]

00:56:23   the brand of light cloud Philips hue [TS]

00:56:24   lights [TS]

00:56:25   hey nerds present you're saying this out [TS]

00:56:27   loud I know I know I don't get hacked [TS]

00:56:29   but the thing is did you say hey I gotta [TS]

00:56:32   get hit I'm saying like micro [TS]

00:56:34   sister-in-law [TS]

00:56:35   every every time she uses the same [TS]

00:56:36   username and password and tells me she [TS]

00:56:38   got hacked yes I got hate I got hacked [TS]

00:56:40   that's cuz you using bits here's the [TS]

00:56:42   thing this is the thing that changed [TS]

00:56:45   this whole thing I'm going somewhere [TS]

00:56:47   with this is called the Philips hue tap [TS]

00:56:48   switch and this is the thing that [TS]

00:56:50   changed everything is any room where you [TS]

00:56:51   got these dingaling lights do you want [TS]

00:56:52   to be a person who's using your phone to [TS]

00:56:53   turn the lights on and off no you won't [TS]

00:56:55   have a switch on the wall now this which [TS]

00:56:56   is really cool kind of costly but it's [TS]

00:56:58   really cool because it's got four [TS]

00:56:59   buttons on it and you can program the [TS]

00:57:01   buttons to do all kinds of stuff in most [TS]

00:57:03   cases these are that big fat button is [TS]

00:57:05   usually the off button and then you can [TS]

00:57:07   have what's called a scene associated [TS]

00:57:08   with it but wait the whole thing is a [TS]

00:57:10   button so it's four buttons do you see [TS]

00:57:12   each of the I'm looking at it I have [TS]

00:57:14   three buttons then that's got four [TS]

00:57:16   because the big one the one with the one [TS]

00:57:18   dot is actually a big button oh the hole [TS]

00:57:20   so big stuff anywhere that's not a [TS]

00:57:22   button is also a button [TS]

00:57:24   oh right that would that put that your [TS]

00:57:26   battery in store it yeah things the but [TS]

00:57:29   this things its revolutionary it's [TS]

00:57:31   changed everything in the house but [TS]

00:57:32   here's the thing about this if you're [TS]

00:57:33   looking at that specifications ready for [TS]

00:57:35   this this thing it doesn't have a [TS]

00:57:36   battery it doesn't have an electric it [TS]

00:57:39   is powered by wait for it kinetic energy [TS]

00:57:42   by using this thing you power this thing [TS]

00:57:45   there it is there it is there it is [TS]

00:57:47   kinetic energy what every one of our [TS]

00:57:50   computers could be doing this right now [TS]

00:57:51   the energy that we put into them starts [TS]

00:57:52   small let it begin with me you limit my [TS]

00:57:55   bullshit typing here on the keyboard how [TS]

00:57:57   is that not powering my computer and [TS]

00:57:58   generating Bitcoin isn't that something [TS]

00:58:00   that could be happening it has a [TS]

00:58:01   background called a background process [TS]

00:58:03   beebeep people be but could it put it [TS]

00:58:06   into the storage facility I don't know I [TS]

00:58:08   don't think I get too small I mean yes [TS]

00:58:10   we're all interested in batteries yes we [TS]

00:58:12   would like for these things to last [TS]

00:58:13   longer but I mean let's look for cases [TS]

00:58:14   where people just do a normal shit gives [TS]

00:58:17   us diable resources much like the game [TS]

00:58:18   minecraft when your computer is sitting [TS]

00:58:21   on your lap and it makes your crotch hot [TS]

00:58:23   yes your crotch is also making the [TS]

00:58:26   computer hot now why are we not [TS]

00:58:29   harnessing why are we not wearing like a [TS]

00:58:32   cameo codpieces now that that are okay [TS]

00:58:41   you're saying that are no reckoning that [TS]

00:58:43   heat okay it's a touchless near-field [TS]

00:58:45   maybe it's touched it could be a touched [TS]

00:58:47   crotch but the point is they're in [TS]

00:58:48   proximity to each other and in the same [TS]

00:58:51   way that you use SETI to pick up [TS]

00:58:52   non-existent radio noise that may or may [TS]

00:58:54   not be an alien in this case educate me [TS]

00:58:56   a crotch blocker that is that is drawing [TS]

00:58:59   that out your Europe your recharging the [TS]

00:59:04   codpiece now as well as providing a [TS]

00:59:07   buffer and it's win-win-win-win-win well [TS]

00:59:10   or you could you could build a whole you [TS]

00:59:12   could build it you could I guess [TS]

00:59:14   probably with with tools just around [TS]

00:59:16   your house they make the whole suit out [TS]

00:59:17   of codpiece just like a black box right [TS]

00:59:20   yeah it feels like that that would be [TS]

00:59:23   like that suit that that guy was trying [TS]

00:59:24   to make where he could go out and live [TS]

00:59:25   with the grizzly bears and not get eaten [TS]

00:59:27   alive [TS]

00:59:28   panda suits in China when they've got [TS]

00:59:32   they've got pandas that they're vicious [TS]

00:59:34   they eventually will reintroduce into [TS]

00:59:37   the wild the people dress up in panda [TS]

00:59:39   outfits to handle them it's so cute [TS]

00:59:41   although the works it could just be that [TS]

00:59:43   they're furries god bless them yeah and [TS]

00:59:46   they just want to be interacting with [TS]

00:59:47   the pan doesn't have a special suit but [TS]

00:59:49   the house rug is that I wonder if one of [TS]

00:59:53   those people goes into the Panda [TS]

00:59:54   enclosure after dark after horse [TS]

00:59:54   enclosure after dark after horse [TS]

01:00:00   but panda reintroduction after dark [TS]

01:00:04   what's up but I I was thinking about a [TS]

01:00:07   codpiece where you actually it was like [TS]

01:00:08   a it was like a radiator you ran cold [TS]

01:00:10   water in one side warm water out the [TS]

01:00:12   other you're you're you're heating up [TS]

01:00:13   your shower also cold fusion or Sullivan [TS]

01:00:15   generator you're able to the suit [TS]

01:00:17   generous you're going to generate things [TS]

01:00:18   like like bait based minerals you're [TS]

01:00:20   going to get I mean cold cold cold [TS]

01:00:22   coming back could be like super train [TS]

01:00:25   right we you're collecting trace amounts [TS]

01:00:27   of platinum and gold out of your crotch [TS]

01:00:29   sheet [TS]

01:00:30   we just throw so much away you know and [TS]

01:00:32   we really throw it away really where is [TS]

01:00:34   away have you ever looked at your body [TS]

01:00:37   under a blacklight I mean really really [TS]

01:00:40   looked at yeah yeah you know it's it's [TS]

01:00:43   not good I'll take a crime scene the [TS]

01:00:45   thing about the thing about a black [TS]

01:00:47   light african-american light sorry a fat [TS]

01:00:52   fat black light is we use them in Alaska [TS]

01:00:55   as part of a gold-mining operation [TS]

01:00:58   because uh you cuz you see as a Santa we [TS]

01:01:01   see the color right it highlights it [TS]

01:01:03   like a like a fluorescent Led Zeppelin [TS]

01:01:05   poster you just see it right there gold [TS]

01:01:07   right well yeah and you can you can put [TS]

01:01:10   a black light you know and and and [TS]

01:01:12   discern the minerals in obscene would it [TS]

01:01:15   otherwise is a bucket of sand oh it's [TS]

01:01:18   pretty hot that's amazing you're working [TS]

01:01:21   at a gold mine yeah [TS]

01:01:23   and you're living in a cabin that [TS]

01:01:24   doesn't have electricity and you turn [TS]

01:01:26   out the gas lights that are on the walls [TS]

01:01:29   at night because it's time to go to [TS]

01:01:30   sleep and in the process of laying there [TS]

01:01:34   being tormented by the sound of [TS]

01:01:37   mosquitoes that are flying around you [TS]

01:01:38   you find a black light in order to see [TS]

01:01:40   the mosquitoes so that you can kill them [TS]

01:01:42   in the dark [TS]

01:01:43   because you're not gonna light the [TS]

01:01:44   fucking lamp again and then because [TS]

01:01:48   you're a teenager you shine the black [TS]

01:01:51   light on yourself and then you see all [TS]

01:01:55   of the stuff that's on you all the [TS]

01:01:57   dander but you couldn't see in the [TS]

01:01:59   fingerprints and the crazy like things [TS]

01:02:02   on your body that are glowing naming [TS]

01:02:04   naming and measurement John that's right [TS]

01:02:07   right so you're seeing you're seeing the [TS]

01:02:09   unseen was that stuff not there until [TS]

01:02:11   you saw it nay right [TS]

01:02:13   it's always been there you've always the [TS]

01:02:14   dander has always been on you what stuff [TS]

01:02:17   is on me right now that would glow if I [TS]

01:02:20   only let it glow and how would you know [TS]

01:02:22   let your let that light under a bushel [TS]

01:02:24   shine let it glow let it glow yeah yeah [TS]

01:02:27   I love this Phillips hue tete well you [TS]

01:02:32   know the big mind fuck for me was when [TS]

01:02:35   you sent me that um keyboard for my [TS]

01:02:38   computer that was solar-powered is how [TS]

01:02:40   crazy is that [TS]

01:02:41   I'm never this right this isn't using [TS]

01:02:43   the Logitech k760 the Logitech k76 I use [TS]

01:02:47   in a row now using right now as we speak [TS]

01:02:49   and you know what the energy is going [TS]

01:02:50   fucking nowhere all that playful Sun [TS]

01:02:53   being captured so I can sit sit here [TS]

01:02:55   look up pictures of the Adventure Time [TS]

01:02:56   minecraft [TS]

01:02:57   mashup that isn't out yet what a waste [TS]

01:02:59   what a terrible waste but as we know [TS]

01:03:01   your office has no Sun in that at all [TS]

01:03:04   Sun cannot penetrate no way that's to [TS]

01:03:07   where you yeah you're back by the [TS]

01:03:08   toaster oven in the bath ah so I fucked [TS]

01:03:10   up I bought the wrong kind of lightbulbs [TS]

01:03:12   I thought I was being smart I got the [TS]

01:03:14   1600 lumens check but I also got there [TS]

01:03:16   6,500 K so the super blue tube rights to [TS]

01:03:21   blue tube now that's blue I don't want [TS]

01:03:23   to blue I don't want to yellow this has [TS]

01:03:25   always been my beef with these goddamn [TS]

01:03:26   lights and now I'm sitting here I'm [TS]

01:03:28   sitting here I feel like I'm I feel like [TS]

01:03:29   I've just been like taken up into the [TS]

01:03:31   firmament it's awful yeah right you're [TS]

01:03:33   trying to get pink right you're trying [TS]

01:03:34   to find them or as we say up here in the [TS]

01:03:37   northwest pink pack yeah I don't know [TS]

01:03:40   you know you get spoiled with these [TS]

01:03:42   ding-a-ling expensive light bulbs [TS]

01:03:43   because you can make it exactly how you [TS]

01:03:44   want my new jam at home isn't making an [TS]

01:03:46   entire house red it's like it's like [TS]

01:03:48   it's like being in a dark room literally [TS]

01:03:51   a dark room but but after damn brothel [TS]

01:03:53   hmm don't have to turn on the red light [TS]

01:03:56   roof it's amazing it's a mate it's so [TS]

01:03:59   relaxing [TS]

01:03:59   you don't realize how blue light is [TS]

01:04:01   until you sit around till you sit around [TS]

01:04:04   in some red light and then you go to the [TS]

01:04:05   bathroom because you get you gotta you [TS]

01:04:07   gotta spend a penny boom blue light [TS]

01:04:09   blinded ouch [TS]

01:04:11   yeah but can I get on I mean there's [TS]

01:04:14   there's no reason we can't be putting [TS]

01:04:15   this everywhere like when you walk down [TS]

01:04:16   when you walk down a staircase and [TS]

01:04:18   you're holding onto the handle that [TS]

01:04:19   should be generating energy well it will [TS]

01:04:22   be once we get our all-over body suits [TS]

01:04:25   that are [TS]

01:04:26   first of all solar solar collecting they [TS]

01:04:29   also collect all of the friction that we [TS]

01:04:31   generate in the course of a day every [TS]

01:04:32   time we hug somebody you tell me I can [TS]

01:04:34   get a codpiece where friction on the [TS]

01:04:35   codpiece would actually generate energy [TS]

01:04:37   or in the case of Elon Musk other things [TS]

01:04:39   that can be stored in batteries it could [TS]

01:04:40   could store emotions but all I know is I [TS]

01:04:42   need to get that codpiece rub it on [TS]

01:04:44   something because environment because [TS]

01:04:46   right now your arms are swinging you're [TS]

01:04:48   climbing stairs and all that energy is [TS]

01:04:49   just being collected by your Fitbit just [TS]

01:04:51   tell you things is sickening but and I [TS]

01:04:53   still have two children every couple [TS]

01:04:54   days I still got to charge it it's not [TS]

01:04:56   charging itself like if I were to do [TS]

01:04:58   something with my right hand I think [TS]

01:05:00   that should get registered as as [TS]

01:05:01   potential in and kinetic energy [TS]

01:05:03   somewhere it should you're swinging that [TS]

01:05:05   hand all day up and down back and forth [TS]

01:05:07   hmm why the fuck isn't it generating [TS]

01:05:09   enough energy to keep itself owners in [TS]

01:05:10   rain but so we put on these bodysuits [TS]

01:05:12   right they're probably also going to be [TS]

01:05:14   like they're also going to be like plus [TS]

01:05:16   two against swords and stuff oh that's [TS]

01:05:19   that's a sorry you know you build that [TS]

01:05:20   in from the beginning yeah right I mean [TS]

01:05:22   you see Karina's base you know it's [TS]

01:05:24   going to be cold you don't want to have [TS]

01:05:25   to wear a spacesuit plus a sweater [TS]

01:05:27   let's account for that in how we make [TS]

01:05:29   the suit you want to spend twenty [TS]

01:05:31   million dollars like developing a pen [TS]

01:05:34   that can write upside down or do you [TS]

01:05:35   want to use a pencil or do you know for [TS]

01:05:36   example maybe you don't want to carry [TS]

01:05:38   your lunch around maybe it's got cargo [TS]

01:05:40   pockets where you could put you to put [TS]

01:05:41   beverages you could have a Lacroix you [TS]

01:05:43   could you could put you can put a [TS]

01:05:44   sandwich in there right no no the [TS]

01:05:46   Lacroix is going to come from the [TS]

01:05:47   hydration bag that's that's that's down [TS]

01:05:50   in your and smaller you're saying you [TS]

01:05:52   have on-site onboard Lacroix ization of [TS]

01:05:54   your fluids the fluids are whipped away [TS]

01:05:56   alien style and then pass through some [TS]

01:05:58   kind of a high-pass filter and that [TS]

01:06:00   comes back to you as Pomplamoose Lacroix [TS]

01:06:02   in well or it'll be what it'll be like [TS]

01:06:04   your little pump activated right you [TS]

01:06:08   know water fizzy or visitor yes [TS]

01:06:10   SodaStream yes the SodaStream but you'll [TS]

01:06:13   have little packets of Lacroix like [TS]

01:06:15   vague imperceptible flavors which are [TS]

01:06:19   perceptible yeah really I do [TS]

01:06:21   disappointing flavors but but and even [TS]

01:06:22   opening the packet would generate energy [TS]

01:06:24   and reuse all the resources of your body [TS]

01:06:27   and possibly your lunch that's a really [TS]

01:06:28   good idea even though we're moving away [TS]

01:06:31   from a Minecraft universe back into a [TS]

01:06:33   flip phone universe that's why we make [TS]

01:06:35   the suits [TS]

01:06:36   plus two against swords and and sharp [TS]

01:06:39   objects [TS]

01:06:39   because we're actually going to be [TS]

01:06:41   living in a medieval world except the [TS]

01:06:43   suits will also be animal characters [TS]

01:06:45   because we're moving into a furry world [TS]

01:06:47   chess with Javy what we're moving into a [TS]

01:06:50   um like a medieval [TS]

01:06:53   could you look like a pantry when you're [TS]

01:06:55   weird yeah it's a creative anachronism [TS]

01:06:58   world it's gonna be like a governor it's [TS]

01:07:00   gonna be the Robin it's basically we're [TS]

01:07:02   moving into the animated Disney Robin [TS]

01:07:04   Hood we're all we're all animals who are [TS]

01:07:09   also in medieval times that made [TS]

01:07:11   marrying the ox and our she literally [TS]

01:07:14   and and we're all gonna be Polly too and [TS]

01:07:18   we're going to be and that spooky action [TS]

01:07:20   at a distance is going to be cooling our [TS]

01:07:21   codpieces Polly wanna cut it [TS]

01:07:24   oh that's more like it [TS]