PodSearch

The Incomparable

156: Airline of Snitches

 

00:00:00   being comfortable is sponsored by hulu [TS]

00:00:01   plus hulu plus let you binge on [TS]

00:00:03   thousands of hit shows anytime anywhere [TS]

00:00:06   on your TV pc smartphone or tablet [TS]

00:00:08   support the uncomfortable and getting [TS]

00:00:10   extended 3 trial of hulu plus when you [TS]

00:00:12   go to hulu plus dot com / smell that's [TS]

00:00:15   hulu plus dot com / smell or go to our [TS]

00:00:20   show page at five by five dot TV / and [TS]

00:00:23   comparable / 156 and click on the hulu [TS]

00:00:26   plus link [TS]

00:00:28   the Intolerable number 156 Marcus 2013 [TS]

00:00:38   welcome back to be uncomfortable podcast [TS]

00:00:42   I'm your host Jason smell and in this [TS]

00:00:44   episode we're going to be doing [TS]

00:00:45   something a little bit different from [TS]

00:00:46   what we usually cover which is you know [TS]

00:00:49   geeky movies and TV shows and books and [TS]

00:00:52   comics and stuff like that [TS]

00:00:53   this is going to be an experiment i like [TS]

00:00:55   to call the old movie club we have more [TS]

00:00:58   frequent Movie Club i was watching an [TS]

00:01:01   old movie and thinking to myself I am [TS]

00:01:03   completely illiterate when it comes to [TS]

00:01:05   movies made before the eighties probably [TS]

00:01:10   with very few exceptions and those [TS]

00:01:12   exceptions of the boring exceptions it's [TS]

00:01:14   2001 or it's gone with the wind or the [TS]

00:01:17   wizard of oz or casablanca the ones that [TS]

00:01:20   everybody already knows so I i have [TS]

00:01:21   enlisted an expert who is a 90 year old [TS]

00:01:25   man no heart at heart i have the heart [TS]

00:01:29   of a 90 year old man and I'm not giving [TS]

00:01:31   it back no matter how much you scream [TS]

00:01:33   like this he had so are our mentor in [TS]

00:01:36   this journey into into old movies is the [TS]

00:01:41   voice you just heard which is his first [TS]

00:01:43   appearance outside of the radio drama [TS]

00:01:46   that is on this podcast it is Philip [TS]

00:01:49   Michaels hello you have a podcast it [TS]

00:01:53   turns i I've kept some panelists for [TS]

00:01:55   certain reasons I've kept it from you [TS]

00:01:58   but I'm glad you could see was asking [TS]

00:02:01   earlier why you haven't been on before [TS]

00:02:02   and I said it's because he's not [TS]

00:02:04   interested in any of the things we [TS]

00:02:05   talked about so consumed with hatred [TS]

00:02:08   here we are I thought contain multitudes [TS]

00:02:10   and joining me on this adventure of [TS]

00:02:12   watching a couple of old movies that [TS]

00:02:14   Phil assigned to us are my guest tonight [TS]

00:02:18   David lure hello hi this is the [TS]

00:02:22   Marmaduke episode right it maybe if we [TS]

00:02:25   wait around long enough it could that [TS]

00:02:26   could happen pool or the magnet is [TS]

00:02:29   episode also possible who even better [TS]

00:02:31   Steve let's is also here hello Steve [TS]

00:02:33   good evening Jason I to know nothing of [TS]

00:02:36   old films all right in the two that i [TS]

00:02:40   have watched now that's right we're like [TS]

00:02:41   babes in the wood [TS]

00:02:42   it's that's not entirely true i've seen [TS]

00:02:44   a lot of bad fifties films the mystery [TS]

00:02:46   science but Riley avoided the good stuff [TS]

00:02:49   like that things are actually good [TS]

00:02:51   yep and Dan Morgan is also here because [TS]

00:02:53   he's contractually obligated to be on [TS]

00:02:55   every podcast hi Dan you know I'm [TS]

00:02:57   actually a bit of a ringer which was I'd [TS]

00:03:00   already seen both of these mom what [TS]

00:03:03   sipho I didn't realize it was it was a [TS]

00:03:06   necessity we hadn't seen my ID team in [TS]

00:03:08   love both these movies but i actually [TS]

00:03:10   don't ya get lex friedman on the line [TS]

00:03:11   immediately he he still hasn't seen the [TS]

00:03:16   moment when the amateurs basically clam [TS]

00:03:19   up and you're like I don't know [TS]

00:03:20   forgiveness is pretty funny then you can [TS]

00:03:23   jump in with your your season 2 [TS]

00:03:24   knowledge I don't take anything away [TS]

00:03:26   from filled with master if he's the [TS]

00:03:27   master i'm only a journeyman in this [TS]

00:03:29   regard parents had one Alec Guinness is [TS]

00:03:32   kind of funny was my top talking point [TS]

00:03:34   so now you haha alright everyone Kenobi [TS]

00:03:37   circle joke but where you gonna sell to [TS]

00:03:39   help tell it that exact same way our [TS]

00:03:41   viewers yes [TS]

00:03:42   yeah sorry I've ruined my god goodnight [TS]

00:03:46   everybody [TS]

00:03:47   so so fill the premise here I i asked [TS]

00:03:51   you to come up with some ideas for old [TS]

00:03:52   movies we can watch and you came up with [TS]

00:03:54   a few different sort of themed choices [TS]

00:03:57   of two or three movies that fit the [TS]

00:03:58   theme and what right we tried to pick [TS]

00:04:00   some that were readily available so one [TS]

00:04:01   of these movies is available on netflix [TS]

00:04:03   and one of them is available at least [TS]

00:04:05   for rental on itunes so there are [TS]

00:04:08   available for rental on itunes but as I [TS]

00:04:10   invented both this week to to review [TS]

00:04:12   them so that i wouldn't say ridiculous [TS]

00:04:14   things so I'm unlike him in RM a club [TS]

00:04:17   episode where John syracuse it shows [TS]

00:04:18   movies that are essentially unavailable [TS]

00:04:20   unless you sell a kidney in Japan was [TS]

00:04:24   surprisingly easy to do what you have to [TS]

00:04:26   get a ticket to Japan and you have to [TS]

00:04:27   have a spare kidney but otherwise yes [TS]

00:04:32   exactly so so these are available and [TS]

00:04:35   what the ones we settled on that was a [TS]

00:04:37   was heists right that was the paper [TS]

00:04:39   movies a series I'm kind of caper movies [TS]

00:04:42   a choice [TS]

00:04:42   yeah the most the most delicious of all [TS]

00:04:44   condiments the king [TS]

00:04:46   me better than the ketchup movie so so [TS]

00:04:49   we we picked movies to watch old from [TS]

00:04:51   the 1950s from the nineteen fifties [TS]

00:04:53   which was which was not knock by design [TS]

00:04:57   actually but it worked out well yeah so [TS]

00:05:00   we get we got a movie from 1951 and [TS]

00:05:03   moving from 1956 and I thought maybe [TS]

00:05:07   Phil could start by explaining why he [TS]

00:05:09   chose these two movies so the first one [TS]

00:05:10   is a comedy a british comedy awards [TS]

00:05:14   right it's up the Lavender Hill mob [TS]

00:05:16   helmet um the reason I i chose this one [TS]

00:05:20   is is Alec Guinness is kind of funny [TS]

00:05:23   kind of it is kind of funny [TS]

00:05:25   it's um from a movie studio in England [TS]

00:05:27   that the the ealing studios and they [TS]

00:05:30   they made a name for themselves a among [TS]

00:05:34   film buffs for for producing comedies of [TS]

00:05:36   the sort that are sort of like looks at [TS]

00:05:38   the British character and and society [TS]

00:05:41   and and that sort of thing and many of [TS]

00:05:43   them in fact star Alec Guinness he was a [TS]

00:05:45   bit of a comedy genius and this is I [TS]

00:05:47   think that the my favorite healing [TS]

00:05:49   studio movie on I i first stumbled [TS]

00:05:51   across it the director of it directed a [TS]

00:05:54   fish called wanda actually in nineteen [TS]

00:05:57   nineteen eighties and that is one of my [TS]

00:06:00   favorite movie comedies of all times so [TS]

00:06:02   i did not know that means deep back into [TS]

00:06:06   the the archives of of stuff that people [TS]

00:06:09   do i noticed that he did a comedy with [TS]

00:06:11   Ben Kenobi and I thought oh I should [TS]

00:06:13   look up that know and there we go it's a [TS]

00:06:15   shit should we talk about the second [TS]

00:06:19   movie first or do we want to launch into [TS]

00:06:21   the lavender a little bit let's let's [TS]

00:06:22   recap so the second movie that we that [TS]

00:06:25   we watched is from 1956 it's called The [TS]

00:06:27   Killing it's not to be confused with [TS]

00:06:28   that TV show where they promised that [TS]

00:06:30   you'd have a resolution after the first [TS]

00:06:32   season and then they turned out that was [TS]

00:06:33   a horrible lie [TS]

00:06:34   yes now things actually happened in this [TS]

00:06:36   the killing it yes and it's direct it's [TS]

00:06:39   directed by somebody you may know as [TS]

00:06:41   little director i like to call what's [TS]

00:06:43   the director of our eyes wide shut [TS]

00:06:45   and uh and let's get and berries indian [TS]

00:06:48   school he's not a or you could say yeah [TS]

00:06:51   like 2001 a Space Odyssey almost made it [TS]

00:06:53   big or the or the shinning the kids are [TS]

00:06:56   alright it's because the sequel to The [TS]

00:06:58   Killing it's Stanley [TS]

00:07:00   rubric yeah and young stanley kubrick's [TS]

00:07:03   look like muppet babies and it stars [TS]

00:07:05   probably if you're not a fan of old [TS]

00:07:08   movies it stars nobody you've heard of [TS]

00:07:10   the lead actors fella called sterling [TS]

00:07:13   Hayden and he he had a nice little run [TS]

00:07:16   in the nineteen fifties probably most [TS]

00:07:18   well known as the corrupt police captain [TS]

00:07:20   in the godfather [TS]

00:07:21   Oh Michael Corleone shoots how's the [TS]

00:07:24   italian food in this joint back huh [TS]

00:07:26   that's him you have the square John i [TS]

00:07:29   frisked a million young punks [TS]

00:07:32   yeah he's he's like um he's like mr. [TS]

00:07:35   nondescript waspy guy right and he's [TS]

00:07:38   like hey guys a tough guy [TS]

00:07:41   I gotta let him his big his big role 18 [TS]

00:07:44   in the the in the nineteen fifties if [TS]

00:07:46   you needed a movie tough guy you called [TS]

00:07:48   sterling Hayden I'm uh I'm looking up on [TS]

00:07:51   IMDb who else they have in this role [TS]

00:07:53   they were trying to get for the role [TS]

00:07:56   because it's basically can we get this [TS]

00:07:58   movie tough guy no alchy sterling Hayden [TS]

00:08:00   them and he and he's nice and Elijah [TS]

00:08:05   cook jr. is also in the movie out of it [TS]

00:08:07   yes you may remember not at all from a [TS]

00:08:09   little bit ly i like to call the maltese [TS]

00:08:11   falcon or you may remember from a TV [TS]

00:08:14   show called magnum p.i where he played [TS]

00:08:16   ice pick that's right or feel like [TS]

00:08:17   texting him at about 6,000 that you you [TS]

00:08:19   have yeah he does a lot of things like [TS]

00:08:21   the exact same character every single [TS]

00:08:23   he's got a distinctive face [TS]

00:08:25   yeah ya know he basically he is the role [TS]

00:08:28   he perfected was I am a sad sack and i [TS]

00:08:32   am a second bad things happen to me and [TS]

00:08:35   i get i get roughed up in and usually [TS]

00:08:38   kill he was the steve buscemi I think of [TS]

00:08:40   this era of three bogeys like crap out [TS]

00:08:42   of the multi spoken so the value your [TS]

00:08:44   you don't know because you're not a [TS]

00:08:45   gigantic nerd like me but the where I [TS]

00:08:48   know I shook from is he played and i [TS]

00:08:52   have to say it this way because you're [TS]

00:08:54   exactly right he played sad-sack defense [TS]

00:08:56   attorney Samuel T Cogley in Star Trek he [TS]

00:09:00   defends Captain Kirk and his [TS]

00:09:02   court-martial and in the episode court [TS]

00:09:05   marketing episode called court-martial [TS]

00:09:07   he plays the court-martial they come up [TS]

00:09:09   with that title star trap yeah well it's [TS]

00:09:11   a it's an old show [TS]

00:09:13   sounds like a combination of science and [TS]

00:09:15   fiction [TS]

00:09:16   yes and it might be aimed at kids it's [TS]

00:09:18   no no magnum p.i just put it that way [TS]

00:09:20   far fewer episodes were never fly of [TS]

00:09:24   Star Trek then of magnum p.i all you [TS]

00:09:26   need to know about Elijah cook jr. is [TS]

00:09:28   that in the maltese falcon he plays the [TS]

00:09:29   young gunman who gets roughed up by [TS]

00:09:31   humphrey bogart and that is the that is [TS]

00:09:33   the manliest t is ever a camera yeah [TS]

00:09:36   that is that that is the high point of [TS]

00:09:39   Elijah cook as a movie tough does he [TS]

00:09:41   like pulled out his jacket and like yeah [TS]

00:09:43   instructions and guns away from him and [TS]

00:09:44   says they have Sydney Greenstreet a [TS]

00:09:46   crippled news he took these away from [TS]

00:09:48   him i made up moving back and that is an [TS]

00:09:50   election cooks this is my moment of [TS]

00:09:52   manliness is in shame he was gunned down [TS]

00:09:56   like a dog [TS]

00:09:57   so where should we start should we talk [TS]

00:10:00   about [TS]

00:10:00   Lavender Hill mob first since it was [TS]

00:10:02   chronologically yeah let's do that first [TS]

00:10:03   let's do that [TS]

00:10:04   it's the it's the lighter movie a little [TS]

00:10:07   bit a few laughs in that one little [TS]

00:10:09   little bit i got a lot of laughs out of [TS]

00:10:11   the second one will get theirs it [TS]

00:10:13   these two movies have the same ending [TS]

00:10:14   though which i think is interesting [TS]

00:10:16   yeah i'll get to this true automatically [TS]

00:10:18   yeah yeah so the Lavender Hill mob Phil [TS]

00:10:21   you know this movie better meet you want [TS]

00:10:23   to explain what happens to what the [TS]

00:10:24   lavender pill mob is about here i will i [TS]

00:10:26   will give the the the 99 cent tour of [TS]

00:10:30   the plot it is Alec Guinness is a bank [TS]

00:10:34   clerk in in London and his job is to [TS]

00:10:38   accompany the gold bullion on its way [TS]

00:10:40   from where it's melted to the bank and [TS]

00:10:43   where Delta and he uh he's sort of this [TS]

00:10:49   perceived as this worthy guy but he has [TS]

00:10:52   big dreams and and and he's actually [TS]

00:10:55   plotted out a way to rob all the gold [TS]

00:10:57   bullion but all he needs is a is a [TS]

00:10:59   partner and the partner arrives in the [TS]

00:11:02   form of Stanley Holloway who moves into [TS]

00:11:05   his boardinghouse in Lavender Hill which [TS]

00:11:07   is where where the title of the movie [TS]

00:11:09   comes from Stanley Holloway you may [TS]

00:11:11   remember him from such movies as my fair [TS]

00:11:13   lady where he plays Alfred P Doolittle [TS]

00:11:15   common common dustman he in this movie a [TS]

00:11:19   totally different character bit of an [TS]

00:11:20   artist and he knows how to melt things [TS]

00:11:22   down hey that's that's handy if you want [TS]

00:11:25   to get gold [TS]

00:11:25   we ran out of the out of the country and [TS]

00:11:28   to make ends meet he works at a factory [TS]

00:11:31   where they manufacture cheap Eiffel [TS]

00:11:34   Tower uh souvenirs and so made of lead [TS]

00:11:39   made of LED and Alec Guinness and [TS]

00:11:42   Stanley Holloway uh hatch on this plot [TS]

00:11:44   that what they're going to do is they'll [TS]

00:11:46   rob the rob the the delivery truck [TS]

00:11:48   meltdown the gold bars and turn them [TS]

00:11:51   into Eiffel Towers that the that will [TS]

00:11:53   then be shipped out of the country with [TS]

00:11:55   no one suspecting that they're really [TS]

00:11:56   made of of gold and they'll be retrieved [TS]

00:11:59   in France and the rest of the movie is [TS]

00:12:01   them on recruiting a couple other [TS]

00:12:04   hapless gangsters to join their mama arm [TS]

00:12:08   in one of my I have a couple favorite [TS]

00:12:12   scenes in the movie in the movie where [TS]

00:12:13   they they basically set up a trap to [TS]

00:12:15   trap to to trap crooks 22 and it's it's [TS]

00:12:20   very funny because a couple of different [TS]

00:12:22   quickshop to rob the place that the plot [TS]

00:12:24   goes hilariously arrived they they make [TS]

00:12:27   away with the gold but complications [TS]

00:12:29   ensue [TS]

00:12:31   I think that's fair to say mhm and I I [TS]

00:12:34   don't want to give away any of the rest [TS]

00:12:36   of plaque is there are a few you know [TS]

00:12:37   surprises in a few pleasing moments of [TS]

00:12:40   discovery including the the final shot [TS]

00:12:43   of the movie which we which we won't [TS]

00:12:44   talk about that we won't have to be [TS]

00:12:47   stupid to be fair it is a 62 year old [TS]

00:12:49   movie we could probably still thinks [TS]

00:12:51   when there's a reasonably 16k shall we [TS]

00:12:53   talk about the ending of the movie yeah [TS]

00:12:55   let's let's let's fire off the old-time [TS]

00:12:57   spoiler or now [TS]

00:12:58   yes [TS]

00:13:01   this is dwight david eisenhower a [TS]

00:13:04   spoiler is coming [TS]

00:13:06   Thank You mr. president yes no problem [TS]

00:13:09   i'm going back to planning the d-day [TS]

00:13:11   invasion [TS]

00:13:12   I'm not president yet i'm only a general [TS]

00:13:14   all right Thank You general [TS]

00:13:16   you're welcome I like your political [TS]

00:13:17   prospects in the future but now I i [TS]

00:13:20   might go become president of Columbia [TS]

00:13:21   first [TS]

00:13:22   ok that's the University not the picture [TS]

00:13:25   studio or the country [TS]

00:13:26   yeah that's just ridiculous already how [TS]

00:13:30   so the movie begins with a framing [TS]

00:13:32   device where it's alec guinness living [TS]

00:13:34   living a life of luxury in I guess [TS]

00:13:36   Brazil and he's spending money like he's [TS]

00:13:41   gotta spend it all right then or never [TS]

00:13:43   again he is right given money and and [TS]

00:13:46   everybody loves them and they're like [TS]

00:13:48   hey you're so great and we and we should [TS]

00:13:50   point out that this is not he is not [TS]

00:13:52   swap he is not he is he is he is wormy [TS]

00:13:56   little Alec Guinness is a gigantic nerd [TS]

00:13:58   City just yes it's it like if bill gates [TS]

00:14:01   where we're casting this movie it would [TS]

00:14:03   be a perfect perfect gotta study [TS]

00:14:06   he has a real burgess Meredith thing [TS]

00:14:08   going for him hear it yeah I have [TS]

00:14:10   expected to break his glasses at some [TS]

00:14:11   point be horribly lost and audrey [TS]

00:14:13   hepburn stops by it was Audrey Hepburn's [TS]

00:14:15   planted her first movie role of getting [TS]

00:14:17   to say if Audrey Hepburn walks by in you [TS]

00:14:21   know I have a pile of money i think i [TS]

00:14:23   probably given as she keep the Shekinah [TS]

00:14:25   here's some cash [TS]

00:14:26   the story there apparently is that she [TS]

00:14:28   was she was going to have a bigger role [TS]

00:14:29   in the movie and she couldn't do it [TS]

00:14:30   because she had to be in a play but Alec [TS]

00:14:32   Guinness was so taken with her that he [TS]

00:14:33   insisted that she she like get a smaller [TS]

00:14:36   part yeah this is well but this is what [TS]

00:14:38   two years before Roman holiday which was [TS]

00:14:40   her sort of breakout role [TS]

00:14:41   yeah yeah so and then Alec Guinness [TS]

00:14:45   turns and tells his story to the guy [TS]

00:14:47   said seed seated next to him at the at [TS]

00:14:49   the table and in this brazilian club and [TS]

00:14:52   thus the story unfolds and then when at [TS]

00:14:55   the end it's revealed that oh he had [TS]

00:14:57   come to arrest Alec Guinness because [TS]

00:14:59   they're handcuffed together and it's [TS]

00:15:00   it's just a very it's a fun little uh a [TS]

00:15:03   way to wrap up the picture and suddenly [TS]

00:15:05   you realize why when you were watching [TS]

00:15:07   that opening scene you felt sort of odd [TS]

00:15:09   about the way he was handing out the [TS]

00:15:10   money [TS]

00:15:11   yes why is he only using is one [TS]

00:15:13   hand huh the both of these movies [TS]

00:15:15   actually have conceits and we when we [TS]

00:15:17   get the other one will talk about the [TS]

00:15:18   other one but but concedes that i always [TS]

00:15:19   think of as being in vogue in modern [TS]

00:15:23   movies where they play with perspective [TS]

00:15:25   and they play with time and things like [TS]

00:15:27   that and yet both of these movies do the [TS]

00:15:29   same thing this isn't this is a perfect [TS]

00:15:31   example of one of these things where i [TS]

00:15:33   would i would think of it as a a very [TS]

00:15:35   overused modern trick of well he by [TS]

00:15:38   letting us know that he escapes then it [TS]

00:15:41   changes how we view the entire movie and [TS]

00:15:43   then at the end it does the little [TS]

00:15:45   double-cross and you realize that they [TS]

00:15:47   did catch up to him and he's and then [TS]

00:15:49   he's helped head out in this his [TS]

00:15:51   handcuffs I i guess one of the things i [TS]

00:15:53   learned here is that these tricks are [TS]

00:15:56   even older and more and more hackneyed [TS]

00:15:59   in some ways that I thought because they [TS]

00:16:01   go back for 60 years if you thought they [TS]

00:16:04   were overused now [TS]

00:16:05   yeah then the narrative part of it that [TS]

00:16:07   was interesting to me which also kind of [TS]

00:16:09   applies to both of them is that are our [TS]

00:16:10   heroes who are you know antiheroes in a [TS]

00:16:13   way but like lovable antihero sheriff's [TS]

00:16:16   reset maybe maybe not so much in the [TS]

00:16:18   killing but in this one anyways they [TS]

00:16:19   don't get away with it right like today [TS]

00:16:21   I think if we had the sort of roguish [TS]

00:16:22   you know guy who's were rooting for he [TS]

00:16:25   would get away at the end like I think [TS]

00:16:27   even if you did a framing device like [TS]

00:16:28   this he would he would somehow white get [TS]

00:16:30   I come out on top which does not really [TS]

00:16:33   happen I'm going off the internet here [TS]

00:16:35   but are originally they were thinking [TS]

00:16:39   about having them get away with it and [TS]

00:16:40   the reason they changed it is because [TS]

00:16:42   they thought that the movie wouldn't get [TS]

00:16:44   imported into America crime doesn't have [TS]

00:16:46   a care in the space that was my question [TS]

00:16:48   actually I that I was going to ask [TS]

00:16:50   whether any of the caper films of the [TS]

00:16:52   period actually end with the thieves [TS]

00:16:53   getting away scot-free or is there [TS]

00:16:55   something in the motion picture code [TS]

00:16:57   that says that the long arm of the law [TS]

00:16:59   must prevail it be there was definitely [TS]

00:17:01   in the u.s. code that you had to that [TS]

00:17:04   you couldn't have people enjoying crime [TS]

00:17:07   or are reaping the reaping the lungs you [TS]

00:17:10   don't have Jimmy Cagney going well that [TS]

00:17:11   was a life well led against get here [TS]

00:17:15   yeah there's a year of a Padre he'll [TS]

00:17:17   burn and you know hanging with generally [TS]

00:17:19   suppose i'm not sure how much I believe [TS]

00:17:22   that story just because I don't I don't [TS]

00:17:24   think of ealing studios go we've got to [TS]

00:17:26   crack the American market boys have [TS]

00:17:28   changed the ending of the movie I I [TS]

00:17:30   think they probably uh didn't want to [TS]

00:17:33   upset the conventions in the mores of [TS]

00:17:35   the time and so that's that's why they [TS]

00:17:38   probably have the ending that they do [TS]

00:17:39   you mean you don't really see people [TS]

00:17:41   getting away with it until like the pink [TS]

00:17:43   panther where again to spoil it [TS]

00:17:47   the heave-ho the hero gets freezing he's [TS]

00:17:52   a panther in the end the end the sorry [TS]

00:17:54   it's everybody I was always disappointed [TS]

00:17:56   that he wasn't so the cats out of the [TS]

00:17:58   bag [TS]

00:17:59   oh and David Niven gets away with it you [TS]

00:18:04   know but that you know I can't remember [TS]

00:18:06   if anyone gets away with it before him [TS]

00:18:08   that David get David gets away with it [TS]

00:18:10   but there isn't any in any of this [TS]

00:18:12   equals right so often when they got away [TS]

00:18:14   when you get away with scams and cons it [TS]

00:18:16   was because you were taking someone who [TS]

00:18:18   deserves to get taken right so what's [TS]

00:18:20   interesting about the Lavender Hill mob [TS]

00:18:21   the way I look at it is it they don't [TS]

00:18:24   get away with it but you are made to [TS]

00:18:27   sympathize with them and like Alec [TS]

00:18:30   Guinness there's that scene where they [TS]

00:18:31   try to promote him so he's literally [TS]

00:18:33   like he has to do the job on on that [TS]

00:18:35   friday because that he's gonna get it [TS]

00:18:38   they promoted him to a different job [TS]

00:18:40   finally after 19 after 19 years of this [TS]

00:18:42   awful menial job and he's gonna get an [TS]

00:18:44   extra like six shillings a week or [TS]

00:18:46   something [TS]

00:18:46   15 showing 15 shillings a week yeah but [TS]

00:18:49   it's really i mean for me to several [TS]

00:18:50   thousand dollars in today's money it's [TS]

00:18:53   not it's like eight cents [TS]

00:18:55   I'm oh I don't know what Sheila is [TS]

00:18:57   converted into but I just I got the [TS]

00:18:59   sense from that it's like okay what [TS]

00:19:00   you've done is you've taken away the job [TS]

00:19:02   he actually was good at and you've given [TS]

00:19:05   him almost no extra money to do this [TS]

00:19:08   other job [TS]

00:19:09   no wonder he wants to steal your gold so [TS]

00:19:13   I was immediately sympathetic Alec [TS]

00:19:15   Guinness because I felt like you know [TS]

00:19:16   this is a terrible job and they don't [TS]

00:19:18   pay him well and he of course you do you [TS]

00:19:20   should always the guys who handled the [TS]

00:19:22   gold pay them well that's what I say [TS]

00:19:24   that might be a comedy there so there's [TS]

00:19:26   a quiet yearning to the to the Alec [TS]

00:19:28   Guinness character about a fellow who [TS]

00:19:30   who knows that this is the the best he's [TS]

00:19:33   going to get in life but [TS]

00:19:35   a yet tries to reach for more yes [TS]

00:19:37   they're not very modeling about it but [TS]

00:19:39   it's it's a very very well-constructed [TS]

00:19:42   character now he's very lucky to have [TS]

00:19:44   that guy move into his his his building [TS]

00:19:47   who who just happens to be involved in [TS]

00:19:50   the melting down of gold that the very [TS]

00:19:52   fundamental he's going to be promoted at [TS]

00:19:53   last [TS]

00:19:54   well that works out let's have it that's [TS]

00:19:57   kind of the way evening studios comedies [TS]

00:19:59   work right the certain amount of [TS]

00:20:01   coincidence and contrivance but the end [TS]

00:20:04   result still is is pretty delightful [TS]

00:20:06   what I love about the movie and and I [TS]

00:20:09   think one of the reasons why I picked it [TS]

00:20:10   as I I think it's just a superbly [TS]

00:20:13   plotted because within 15 minutes [TS]

00:20:16   they've outlined the entire caper this [TS]

00:20:18   is how we're going to rob the money [TS]

00:20:19   within 30 minutes they're pulling off [TS]

00:20:21   the caper and and pulling it off [TS]

00:20:23   not really according to the elaborate [TS]

00:20:25   plan that they hatched out and then it's [TS]

00:20:30   just it [TS]

00:20:30   there's really not a wasted seen it [TS]

00:20:33   there's really not a scene where they [TS]

00:20:35   have to go back and explain now remember [TS]

00:20:38   this is the caper we're doing that even [TS]

00:20:40   when they bring in the the two other [TS]

00:20:42   hoodlums into their into their little [TS]

00:20:44   gang they the the script is written in [TS]

00:20:46   such a way that you don't have a double [TS]

00:20:48   x position although it does all fall [TS]

00:20:50   down on kind of a a ridiculous [TS]

00:20:52   contrivance which is that a Frenchwoman [TS]

00:20:54   can't tell the difference between an R [TS]

00:20:55   and yeah well for me that the the movie [TS]

00:21:00   sort of I i enjoy it but it sort of goes [TS]

00:21:04   off the rails once they once they leave [TS]

00:21:08   France [TS]

00:21:09   yeah well it does it does get a little [TS]

00:21:12   bit commit because then you've got the [TS]

00:21:14   Eiffel Towers they go home with the [TS]

00:21:16   schoolchildren yeah and then one of them [TS]

00:21:18   makes its way to a police exposition [TS]

00:21:20   where that happens to be a chemist [TS]

00:21:21   testing gold from the robberies and what [TS]

00:21:23   that is hilariously ridiculous but it's [TS]

00:21:26   great no it's great it's fantastic and [TS]

00:21:28   as a little bit of background what [TS]

00:21:30   happens is the the Eiffel Tower the the [TS]

00:21:32   gold Eiffel Towers are shipped to France [TS]

00:21:34   and they're supposed to sit in the [TS]

00:21:35   warehouse but someone can't tell the [TS]

00:21:36   difference between the are in the Edit [TS]

00:21:38   and side and yes start selling the [TS]

00:21:41   myself because he's an Englishman would [TS]

00:21:44   have said are as I she might have picked [TS]

00:21:46   it up as an a as opposed to an R [TS]

00:21:48   and they they start selling the gold [TS]

00:21:50   Eiffel Towers to these English [TS]

00:21:52   schoolgirls myself ill it's just you [TS]

00:21:54   know don't get the French involved [TS]

00:21:56   yeah that's the blessing of this movie [TS]

00:21:57   is trust I don't trust the French with [TS]

00:22:00   anything of value when I did appreciate [TS]

00:22:02   about that whole bit though was that [TS]

00:22:04   we've been presented the allocated [TS]

00:22:06   character who has a happy what I would [TS]

00:22:08   call a periodic speech impediment [TS]

00:22:10   occasionally you know his arse kind of [TS]

00:22:12   come and go yes [TS]

00:22:14   not really super consistent with whether [TS]

00:22:16   he says them or not but in a modern [TS]

00:22:18   movie that with the plot would hinge on [TS]

00:22:20   that in some very much so and in this [TS]

00:22:24   movie it's just there may need it just [TS]

00:22:27   happens to have a speech impediment [TS]

00:22:28   there's really no purpose of it there's [TS]

00:22:31   no point at all and in the end where a [TS]

00:22:34   modern movie would have had you know the [TS]

00:22:36   problem with the French lady hinge on [TS]

00:22:37   his speech impediment it turns out to be [TS]

00:22:39   the other guy who's days and ours get [TS]

00:22:41   confused [TS]

00:22:42   it has nothing to do with with with the [TS]

00:22:45   Guinness characters speech impediment at [TS]

00:22:46   all what I really love about Dennis in [TS]

00:22:49   this movie is the brief moments you get [TS]

00:22:52   of him really relishing this role [TS]

00:22:55   there's that scene where is like they're [TS]

00:22:56   well you're the boss and he's like yes [TS]

00:22:58   yes I am and you you get a little bit of [TS]

00:23:00   that too there's a scene where he tells [TS]

00:23:02   them to leave some of the gold in the [TS]

00:23:05   truck that they robbed and they're kind [TS]

00:23:07   of like we're talking about there's like [TS]

00:23:09   75,000 pounds there you know we can make [TS]

00:23:11   all this money and he says no just leave [TS]

00:23:13   it and is that there's a certain amount [TS]

00:23:15   of you you know why steal with his voice [TS]

00:23:17   at that point which is interesting for [TS]

00:23:20   character who is so mild-mannered but [TS]

00:23:22   like you get the feeling again if this [TS]

00:23:24   was a modern movie that it would turn [TS]

00:23:26   into sort of more his descent into [TS]

00:23:27   hardened criminal right it never goes [TS]

00:23:29   that way but like there you could you [TS]

00:23:31   can kind of see how that might develop [TS]

00:23:32   this isn't the Lavender Hill mob is [TS]

00:23:35   breaking bad right [TS]

00:23:36   right now I've got not houses just [TS]

00:23:38   relishing not being the lowest man on [TS]

00:23:40   the totem pole for ya right right [TS]

00:23:42   exactly but it's a it's getting such a [TS]

00:23:45   great job of balancing those two aspects [TS]

00:23:47   of that character well as Jason pointed [TS]

00:23:50   out earlier that that Howard Guinness is [TS]

00:23:53   a funny guy [TS]

00:23:54   I'm at and this would be as good a time [TS]

00:23:56   to discuss that as any i think you know [TS]

00:23:58   most audiences [TS]

00:24:01   people our age are gonna be easy but [TS]

00:24:03   there's obi-wan Kenobi what are you [TS]

00:24:05   doing here or if you're a have a wider [TS]

00:24:07   film vocabulary you know I'm from bridge [TS]

00:24:10   on the river choir you you know I'm from [TS]

00:24:12   from lawrence of arabia but he really if [TS]

00:24:16   you dig deep into his filmography he [TS]

00:24:18   does a lot of really great comic work [TS]

00:24:21   besides uh this movie he'd kind hearts [TS]

00:24:23   and coronets where he played in which [TS]

00:24:24   she plays like that doesn't he play [TS]

00:24:26   right doesn't get the roles including a [TS]

00:24:28   lady and was a hideous looking lady [TS]

00:24:31   I i just want to stipulate that right [TS]

00:24:34   now he's out he was in the original [TS]

00:24:35   Ladykillers he was a white suit he [TS]

00:24:40   another great healing studios comedy is [TS]

00:24:42   our man in Havana where again plays kind [TS]

00:24:45   of a wormy guy who who rises above his [TS]

00:24:47   station and if you if you get a chance [TS]

00:24:50   if you if you reject films that are in [TS]

00:24:54   black-and-white try and rent neil [TS]

00:24:55   simon's murder by death because in that [TS]

00:24:57   movie he's a he's the butler he's [TS]

00:25:01   terrific and that he's the blind Butler [TS]

00:25:03   Benson mama [TS]

00:25:05   so after I get back from France I it's a [TS]

00:25:08   it's a a different movie which is not to [TS]

00:25:10   say it isn't wacky it's actually in some [TS]

00:25:12   ways i found that the most memorable [TS]

00:25:13   part of the movie is that there is this [TS]

00:25:14   ridiculous they go to the school to try [TS]

00:25:18   and bribe ER i guess just exchanged the [TS]

00:25:21   Eiffel Towers for the let Eiffel Towers [TS]

00:25:23   but then there's the one girl who [TS]

00:25:24   refuses to give it to them because you [TS]

00:25:26   drive is over which the teacher doesn't [TS]

00:25:28   bad and I know [TS]

00:25:29   ok these men came all the way from [TS]

00:25:31   France to exchange your your misc at [TS]

00:25:34   your perfectly going to give them five [TS]

00:25:36   shillings for for heat transfer it's [TS]

00:25:39   it's it's certainly normal but what but [TS]

00:25:42   she takes the girl takes the the the [TS]

00:25:46   gold statue to the to the worst place [TS]

00:25:49   possible if you're a robber which is [TS]

00:25:51   like the police expo which they met they [TS]

00:25:55   apparently have and there's a [TS]

00:25:57   demonstration thereof by a scientist who [TS]

00:26:00   can prove that things are gold just boy [TS]

00:26:02   that's bad luck and there's a hole at [TS]

00:26:05   the police expo there's this whole wacky [TS]

00:26:07   when they essentially just decide to [TS]

00:26:09   grab the the statue and run because [TS]

00:26:12   they're going to be found out and then [TS]

00:26:14   there [TS]

00:26:14   they have this crazy chase through the [TS]

00:26:16   police expo and then there's a whole [TS]

00:26:18   crazy car chase which involves them [TS]

00:26:20   stealing a police car and pretending to [TS]

00:26:23   end radioing in bad information to the [TS]

00:26:25   police cars and it's uh it's there's [TS]

00:26:29   lots of action and it's funny and it's [TS]

00:26:31   weird and I I enjoyed that part a lot [TS]

00:26:34   it's a bit too madcap for my taste [TS]

00:26:36   actually like yeah like I said I for me [TS]

00:26:39   the high point of the movie ends when [TS]

00:26:40   they're trying to get back from France [TS]

00:26:42   and they there's this whole bit of [TS]

00:26:44   business where they're trying to get on [TS]

00:26:45   the boat to in Calais and I know you've [TS]

00:26:48   gotta go through customs and no you've [TS]

00:26:50   gotta buy the tickets and and and both [TS]

00:26:52   Alec Guinness and Stanley Holloway or [TS]

00:26:54   are freaking out and it's that's a very [TS]

00:26:56   funny bit on in a very nice bit of [TS]

00:26:59   controlled madness [TS]

00:27:01   whereas I think once they have the the [TS]

00:27:03   car chase scene that gets a little bit [TS]

00:27:05   too Benny Hill for my taste the way that [TS]

00:27:08   he eventually actually gets away is [TS]

00:27:10   actually quite understated right because [TS]

00:27:12   he goes into the tube and they follow [TS]

00:27:14   him in and he comes out again and then [TS]

00:27:17   he goes back around goes into very [TS]

00:27:19   calmly goes in again and that's how we [TS]

00:27:20   eventually get away which I thought was [TS]

00:27:22   very very clever and it's a slight [TS]

00:27:24   little commentary on society because [TS]

00:27:26   it's oh he's able to blend in because [TS]

00:27:28   he's a wormy guy and we're all were all [TS]

00:27:30   wormy guys I like the confusion in the [TS]

00:27:34   cars though there's a nice moment where [TS]

00:27:36   they're like car for car for and they're [TS]

00:27:39   like a hot car for is a fake [TS]

00:27:41   he's like you said you said we were car [TS]

00:27:42   for your car for work are three and and [TS]

00:27:45   it's so he's smart he he throws them [TS]

00:27:48   he's very devious and he throws them off [TS]

00:27:49   the scent plus the cops are kind of them [TS]

00:27:51   i'm not going to say they're like Dukes [TS]

00:27:54   of Hazzard level companies don't have [TS]

00:27:56   what they call keystone cops in England [TS]

00:28:01   they like breckenridge Bobby's one of [TS]

00:28:04   the inspectors i believe is Christopher [TS]

00:28:06   Hewett yes these years you may recognize [TS]

00:28:09   from such TV shows as mr. Belvedere and [TS]

00:28:12   ghost of mr. Belvedere one of the [TS]

00:28:15   chemist at the exhibition is apparently [TS]

00:28:16   robert sean is yes roll [TS]

00:28:19   yes exactly lot a lot a lot of hey you [TS]

00:28:22   are in this the in the sun for you were [TS]

00:28:24   big apparently Alec Guinness would get [TS]

00:28:26   very angry if you would come [TS]

00:28:28   Tim and try to talk about Star Wars yeah [TS]

00:28:30   oh yeah well you can you blame him with [TS]

00:28:33   this now I care to admit that was one [TS]

00:28:35   booth me out of 50 tool that I made [TS]

00:28:38   something else that struck me about this [TS]

00:28:40   movie and just the difference between a [TS]

00:28:42   caper film in 1951 and what you would [TS]

00:28:45   see today was just how relatively [TS]

00:28:48   simplistic it was in the highest frankly [TS]

00:28:50   there's not that much to it [TS]

00:28:52   yeah there no lasers and mirrors and [TS]

00:28:54   video cameras to duplicate and all of [TS]

00:28:58   those things we've seen a million times [TS]

00:29:00   no one is switching thumb prints no one [TS]

00:29:02   is pulling off of pulling off a mask [TS]

00:29:05   pretending to be someone else right I'll [TS]

00:29:06   be in the truck and we're a modern movie [TS]

00:29:09   would have taken you know they would [TS]

00:29:11   have piled a minor air onto a [TS]

00:29:13   misunderstanding and it would have [TS]

00:29:15   dragged it out for the rest of the film [TS]

00:29:16   sort of building and building that this [TS]

00:29:18   house just mean there there are some [TS]

00:29:20   minor issues with the highest but it [TS]

00:29:21   kind of goes off without too big of a [TS]

00:29:23   hitch [TS]

00:29:23   I guess audiences of the fifties could [TS]

00:29:26   only take so much tension but while they [TS]

00:29:28   set you up to think it's gonna go wrong [TS]

00:29:30   right when that you when he accidentally [TS]

00:29:31   when Stanley accidentally steals the [TS]

00:29:33   painting and walks away with the [TS]

00:29:36   painting and now the police are all over [TS]

00:29:37   there and he's meant to be causing a [TS]

00:29:39   distraction which he does anyways by [TS]

00:29:42   having virtue of you know see me to have [TS]

00:29:44   still want to paint it and they're [TS]

00:29:46   accomplices are supposed to rough up [TS]

00:29:47   Alec Guinness to make it look like he's [TS]

00:29:49   been robbed but they they panic and flee [TS]

00:29:51   the scene so Alec Guinness Esther rough [TS]

00:29:53   himself up which is a great bit of [TS]

00:29:56   physical comedy which works so well the [TS]

00:29:57   police think he's a hero right when the [TS]

00:30:00   the idea that movies to their more [TS]

00:30:03   complicated is partly because we have [TS]

00:30:05   this template right it no one's ever [TS]

00:30:08   going to rob our gold truck again [TS]

00:30:10   well they they hadn't seen the same [TS]

00:30:12   story over and over and over again [TS]

00:30:14   whereas a you know by now we've got 60 [TS]

00:30:16   70 years of the same movie ideas so they [TS]

00:30:20   have to jack it up like what more can we [TS]

00:30:22   do what can we pile on to surprise you [TS]

00:30:24   just just a few things have changed in [TS]

00:30:26   the last 60 years that you know it's [TS]

00:30:29   funny that the the twist at the end that [TS]

00:30:31   i actually didn't pick up on until maybe [TS]

00:30:34   just a few seconds before it actually [TS]

00:30:35   went off i realize the reason I didn't [TS]

00:30:38   pick up on that was because i was [TS]

00:30:39   expecting that cliche and [TS]

00:30:41   not to have existed in 1951 yeah so I [TS]

00:30:44   was sort of surprised when it actually [TS]

00:30:46   turned out i mean i'm sure it wasn't a [TS]

00:30:47   cliché at the time it was probably [TS]

00:30:49   exactly first instances of it but I [TS]

00:30:51   thought it was surely before that had [TS]

00:30:52   come to be so it was kind of a bit of a [TS]

00:30:55   surprise one that that's I was actually [TS]

00:30:58   gonna talk about that with the the next [TS]

00:31:00   film 2 i'll wait wait i do need to say [TS]

00:31:03   this about the Lavender Hill mob sure [TS]

00:31:04   you look swell in a shroud is probably [TS]

00:31:07   the greatest title for a book ever or a [TS]

00:31:10   radio drama episode for that matter [TS]

00:31:12   that's the book that Alec Guinness is [TS]

00:31:14   reading to the little lady [TS]

00:31:17   i love when the cops and interrogate her [TS]

00:31:19   with her she's asking all these like [TS]

00:31:21   questions in this hard-boiled crime [TS]

00:31:22   slaying the little old lady who lives in [TS]

00:31:25   the in the boardinghouse on lavender [TS]

00:31:27   hill is one of the unsung heroes of that [TS]

00:31:29   movie they really should have built up a [TS]

00:31:31   role board MTG the owner who calls them [TS]

00:31:34   naughty men is also quite wonderful she [TS]

00:31:37   be nominated today I get to be an [TS]

00:31:39   accomplice oh yeah she'd be the one who [TS]

00:31:41   got away with all the money at the end [TS]

00:31:42   seven work if I had somebody who every [TS]

00:31:45   time I came home drunk from a bar open [TS]

00:31:47   the door and called me a naughty man [TS]

00:31:48   oh you watching man different life pad [TS]

00:31:51   know you naughty naughty men that was a [TS]

00:31:56   crazy boardinghouse although that was [TS]

00:31:57   the flaw in his plan to is like if any [TS]

00:31:59   detective realizes that the guy in who [TS]

00:32:02   is there at the highest his pals with a [TS]

00:32:06   guy who melts down metal yeah the chicas [TS]

00:32:09   I that I've at that moment the jig is up [TS]

00:32:11   today there's a computer that just goes [TS]

00:32:13   like being yeah they need to they just [TS]

00:32:15   find that out [TS]

00:32:15   yeah but back then it was it was an [TS]

00:32:17   innocent time it was very different [TS]

00:32:19   all right before we continue a word from [TS]

00:32:21   our first sponsor its Hulu Plus now I'm [TS]

00:32:24   sure you've all tried hulu.com but what [TS]

00:32:27   I want to talk about today is hulu plus [TS]

00:32:29   hulu plus lets you watch thousands of [TS]

00:32:31   hits shows anytime anywhere [TS]

00:32:33   streaming on your TV or on the go with [TS]

00:32:36   your smartphone or tablet why stand in [TS]

00:32:38   line or ride a train and just stare at [TS]

00:32:40   your feet [TS]

00:32:40   you could be watching your favorite [TS]

00:32:42   shows on hulu plus hulu plus is also a [TS]

00:32:45   great way to binge watch your favorite [TS]

00:32:46   shows or discover new shows and get [TS]

00:32:48   caught up [TS]

00:32:49   this is what I've been watching on hulu [TS]

00:32:50   plus i just got a tivo tivo got hulu [TS]

00:32:54   plus integrated my apple [TS]

00:32:55   he's got hulu plus integrated my iPads [TS]

00:32:57   got hulu plus integrated but I've been [TS]

00:32:59   on the tivo watching the thick of it [TS]

00:33:01   which is a british comedy it's really [TS]

00:33:04   funny [TS]

00:33:05   it stars Peter Capaldi who is the next [TS]

00:33:07   Doctor Who but in this he's a foul mouth [TS]

00:33:09   Scottish political fixer it's got a very [TS]

00:33:13   spinal tap kind of feel to it there are [TS]

00:33:15   a lot of understated jokes there is [TS]

00:33:18   completely confused people who are doing [TS]

00:33:20   confused things it's actually the [TS]

00:33:22   closest I think invite a spinal tap of [TS]

00:33:24   any show that i have ever seen it is [TS]

00:33:26   really great and it's on hulu plus so [TS]

00:33:30   check it out [TS]

00:33:31   hulu plus seven ninety-nine a month that [TS]

00:33:33   799 for all the shows and movies you can [TS]

00:33:35   watch catch-up on current shows binge on [TS]

00:33:37   an old favorite catch a great movie [TS]

00:33:39   watch these british shows like the thick [TS]

00:33:42   of it you can do it all on hulu plus it [TS]

00:33:44   right now you could try hulu plus for a [TS]

00:33:46   couple weeks [TS]

00:33:47   absolutely free on me when you go to [TS]

00:33:50   hulu plus dot com / smell that's my name [TS]

00:33:53   SSN dll or go to our show page on five [TS]

00:33:57   by five for this episode of five-by-five [TS]

00:33:58   dot TV / icomparable / 156 and click on [TS]

00:34:03   the hulu plus link now make sure you use [TS]

00:34:05   my favorite URL on the web this week [TS]

00:34:08   hulu plus dot com / snow you get the [TS]

00:34:12   extended free trial they know that we [TS]

00:34:13   sent you [TS]

00:34:14   it helps us keep the lights on at the [TS]

00:34:16   incomparable and it gives you a better [TS]

00:34:17   deal one more time extended free trial [TS]

00:34:20   hulu plus dot com / smell and thanks to [TS]

00:34:23   hulu plus for sponsoring the [TS]

00:34:25   incomparable for the killing [TS]

00:34:27   yes is in a slightly different in tone [TS]

00:34:30   did yeah I was always bringing [TS]

00:34:32   everything that we've had the the light [TS]

00:34:34   laughs and and life-affirming comedy of [TS]

00:34:37   of the Lavender Hill mob let's talk [TS]

00:34:40   about the killing and open up a vein [TS]

00:34:41   life is worthless and you will fail [TS]

00:34:45   that's the message of the killing ladies [TS]

00:34:47   and gentlemen is it's the last line in [TS]

00:34:49   the movie what's the difference the [TS]

00:34:51   difference [TS]

00:34:52   yeah a little-little dogs are annoying [TS]

00:34:54   that was what I took oh no ladies it [TS]

00:34:55   ladies could make another appearance [TS]

00:34:57   steer clear of the old bat's if you're [TS]

00:34:59   going to be pulling off a caper is that [TS]

00:35:01   lesson I take little dogs in english [TS]

00:35:02   school girls are problems right are [TS]

00:35:05   impediments to your paper and [TS]

00:35:08   French and make sure your suitcase locks [TS]

00:35:11   so i will now recount the plot of the [TS]

00:35:13   killing it will be very difficult as [TS]

00:35:15   they use nonlinear storytelling yes this [TS]

00:35:17   is another technique the crew you know [TS]

00:35:19   and this was one of a an early an early [TS]

00:35:22   movie to use nonlinear storytelling and [TS]

00:35:24   apparently it was not a well-received [TS]

00:35:26   technique out of the time if I mail back [TS]

00:35:29   this with some music from the film ok so [TS]

00:35:32   sterling here dude sterling Hayden is [TS]

00:35:39   fresh out of prison [TS]

00:35:40   fresh out of the fresh out of the [TS]

00:35:42   Graybar hotel but he's not going to let [TS]

00:35:44   that get him down no he's planning a [TS]

00:35:47   caper little caper it's uh he's going to [TS]

00:35:50   Robert a racetrack he's gonna gonna take [TS]

00:35:52   them of all their money and easy [TS]

00:35:54   enlisted not croc see points out but [TS]

00:35:57   just people with a little larceny in [TS]

00:35:59   them and they all have their reasons for [TS]

00:36:01   participating there's the there's the [TS]

00:36:04   Elijah cook character who's got a [TS]

00:36:06   money-grab and wife and there's a [TS]

00:36:08   there's a bartender at the racetrack his [TS]

00:36:11   wife is very sick and he needs the money [TS]

00:36:13   to to help her get better [TS]

00:36:15   there's the cop who appears to be in [TS]

00:36:17   very bad gambling debts he he makes [TS]

00:36:21   kevin spacey in LA confidential look [TS]

00:36:26   like McGruff the Crime Dog like Russell [TS]

00:36:29   Crowe in LA confidential right fair [TS]

00:36:31   enough so and then there's that the old [TS]

00:36:34   man who's bankrolling them whoo-hoo I [TS]

00:36:36   kinda has taken a shine to sterling [TS]

00:36:38   Hayden hey let's go away together after [TS]

00:36:42   this yeah yeah we'll go to Vermont and [TS]

00:36:44   interesting some open up bread and [TS]

00:36:47   breakfast together let's see how about [TS]

00:36:49   the list can we talk about the great [TS]

00:36:51   roles for women in this movie now well [TS]

00:36:53   yeah well now we're that were done with [TS]

00:36:55   that [TS]

00:36:56   so yeah i already mentioned uh Elijah [TS]

00:36:59   cooks wife who is a gold and grab [TS]

00:37:03   money-grubbing harlot [TS]

00:37:04   yep forget yet just a terrible one of [TS]

00:37:08   the most terrible human beings you will [TS]

00:37:10   ever use sterling Hayden has a [TS]

00:37:13   girlfriend and she is just are pretty [TS]

00:37:15   and she's not very smart [TS]

00:37:17   wow what if that don't mean I forgot now [TS]

00:37:20   bad that scene was just in [TS]

00:37:22   terms of the i believe i've always [TS]

00:37:24   believed anything that you took me [TS]

00:37:26   yeah anything I waited for five years [TS]

00:37:28   while you were in prison because you're [TS]

00:37:30   such a great guy i think the best way to [TS]

00:37:32   describe sterling Hayden girlfriend in [TS]

00:37:34   that movie is present or possibly [TS]

00:37:38   liquored up I don't yeah well she's very [TS]

00:37:40   supportive and self-loathing self and [TS]

00:37:43   apart from the sickly wife that's about [TS]

00:37:45   it for four ladies Steve mentioned the [TS]

00:37:47   blaring music I just don't like to cook [TS]

00:37:50   being in Star Trek they the music in [TS]

00:37:52   this movie is actually buy one of the [TS]

00:37:54   two or three small core star trek [TS]

00:37:58   composers so I had moments where i was [TS]

00:38:00   waiting for Captain Kirk to begin a [TS]

00:38:02   fistfight in the middle of the killing [TS]

00:38:05   because it's basically that same kind of [TS]

00:38:07   blaring horns kind of music and it's [TS]

00:38:10   there's a lot of it but I swear is this [TS]

00:38:12   jockeys were going by in that opening [TS]

00:38:14   scene I was sure I was gonna see [TS]

00:38:15   gladiators come thru was going to be [TS]

00:38:17   worn to come out and interrupt the horse [TS]

00:38:19   race start playing fizzbin in the middle [TS]

00:38:21   of the movie and I just would've been [TS]

00:38:23   great if could fight the giant Russian [TS]

00:38:25   guy that's arms and all the wrestler [TS]

00:38:26   yeah so there are two out there are two [TS]

00:38:28   other people in this in this in this [TS]

00:38:30   caper their ancillary characters one is [TS]

00:38:33   HS loving wrestler because doctors in [TS]

00:38:36   the world who is commissioned to [TS]

00:38:38   basically start a fight to provide the [TS]

00:38:41   distraction source so sterling Hayden [TS]

00:38:43   can get in the unauthorized area and and [TS]

00:38:46   steal the money and he's like real cop [TS]

00:38:48   senior yeah it is like and and this guy [TS]

00:38:51   was a real wrestler and apparently a pal [TS]

00:38:53   of stanley kubrick's and and he is just [TS]

00:38:57   great [TS]

00:38:58   you gotta love the scene where they rip [TS]

00:38:59   his shirt was clearly designed to be [TS]

00:39:02   honest like he's wearing another shirt [TS]

00:39:03   underneath that or happen half right [TS]

00:39:05   down the back of that the part I love [TS]

00:39:07   about the fight that he starts is the [TS]

00:39:09   cops run at him in waves that script is [TS]

00:39:13   it over with some and yeah driver [TS]

00:39:16   yeah this WWF match breaks out in the [TS]

00:39:18   middle of the film let's run at them two [TS]

00:39:20   at a time instead of all of us at once [TS]

00:39:21   around him hitting them with trenches [TS]

00:39:24   let's give a given a chance to beat up [TS]

00:39:27   on us you know though i would say that [TS]

00:39:29   that and and the Roddy Piper fight scene [TS]

00:39:32   at the keith david Roddy Piper fight [TS]

00:39:33   scene from they live are probably the [TS]

00:39:34   two best [TS]

00:39:35   it seems I've ever seen in any film both [TS]

00:39:39   professional wrestlers I came here to [TS]

00:39:42   kick ass and chew bubblegum and help [TS]

00:39:44   sterling hating the highest i've just [TS]

00:39:46   got that third thing but you couldn't [TS]

00:39:47   understand what i said as i did and and [TS]

00:39:49   and then you've got the teeth gritting [TS]

00:39:52   sharpshooter [TS]

00:39:54   yeah with a with a guy with a rifle the [TS]

00:39:57   other it the other way that they're [TS]

00:39:58   distracting all the cops is that they're [TS]

00:40:00   going to shoot a horse in the middle of [TS]

00:40:02   a race which seems excessive [TS]

00:40:05   is there a reason that they that they [TS]

00:40:06   target the one horse but he's gonna be [TS]

00:40:09   that they explain it briefly he's the [TS]

00:40:11   front-runner and if you shoot the [TS]

00:40:13   front-runner than other horses might [TS]

00:40:15   collapse into them and create more of a [TS]

00:40:18   ruckus and a scene and it creates more [TS]

00:40:21   of an alibi because there are more [TS]

00:40:23   potential reasons why somebody might [TS]

00:40:24   want to take down the horse is running [TS]

00:40:26   well then one that sucks right now is [TS]

00:40:29   actually a crowd to and just get [TS]

00:40:30   everybody's attention [TS]

00:40:31   yeah he insults the wrong guy and does [TS]

00:40:37   not get away [TS]

00:40:38   no one really gets away in this movie it [TS]

00:40:40   all in torah plano but the the not to [TS]

00:40:44   get out of line but this is a nonlinear [TS]

00:40:45   narrative so what the hell yeah at 439 [TS]

00:40:48   johnny was sitting by the racetrack oh [TS]

00:40:50   that narrator so there isn't there is an [TS]

00:40:52   area where the hell he so he shoots the [TS]

00:40:55   the horse and like within 10 seconds [TS]

00:40:57   there's a cop standing there telling him [TS]

00:40:59   to freeze where the heck did the cop [TS]

00:41:01   come from also that cop shoots and [TS]

00:41:04   pretty fast [TS]

00:41:04   really fat yeah well yeah that was bad [TS]

00:41:08   I understand that's really bad luck of [TS]

00:41:09   it yeah yeah we also ran over a [TS]

00:41:11   horseshoe Jason is all about bad luck [TS]

00:41:13   well that was bad luck you know in the [TS]

00:41:15   fifties lots of car thieves wander the [TS]

00:41:16   track and yeah shakedown pencils or [TS]

00:41:20   shoot horses all right before we [TS]

00:41:22   continue talking about old movies I want [TS]

00:41:24   to pause for a second to talk about an [TS]

00:41:25   old friend of the podcast a previous [TS]

00:41:28   sponsor returning this week it's [TS]

00:41:29   hostgator hostgator.com it's a premier [TS]

00:41:32   web hosting and domain name provider if [TS]

00:41:35   you're looking to start a website [TS]

00:41:36   hostgator can get you up and running [TS]

00:41:38   with monthly hosting plans there are one [TS]

00:41:40   click installs tons of other features [TS]

00:41:42   that make getting your site up and [TS]

00:41:43   running easy if you are more advanced [TS]

00:41:46   user your business [TS]

00:41:47   hostgator can take care of you with [TS]

00:41:49   Reese [TS]

00:41:49   our plans that VPS and dedicated servers [TS]

00:41:51   hostgator guarantees i love this number [TS]

00:41:53   99.999% uptime and that's no matter your [TS]

00:41:58   size or your needs your wordpress user [TS]

00:42:01   you don't have to install WordPress and [TS]

00:42:02   get it all up and running [TS]

00:42:03   they have a one-click install that gets [TS]

00:42:05   it going they have an optimized hosting [TS]

00:42:07   platform when you host with hostgator [TS]

00:42:09   you get unlimited disk space and [TS]

00:42:11   bandwidth that is HUGE they have free [TS]

00:42:14   site builder tools they're super easy to [TS]

00:42:16   use and if you find yourself needing any [TS]

00:42:17   help they've got twenty four seven [TS]

00:42:18   support to make sure everything is [TS]

00:42:21   running smoothly now here's the deal you [TS]

00:42:23   need to head on over to hostgator.com [TS]

00:42:25   that's host1 8000 are like the florida [TS]

00:42:29   gators and learn more when you decide to [TS]

00:42:32   purchase even though I'm not Dan my name [TS]

00:42:35   is not dan you've got to use the special [TS]

00:42:37   code [TS]

00:42:38   dan sent me that's right dan sent me [TS]

00:42:41   when you go to Hostgator you'll get [TS]

00:42:42   thirty percent off everything and you'll [TS]

00:42:44   thank me who's not Dan and you'll think [TS]

00:42:47   Dan who is Dan and you'll thank the good [TS]

00:42:49   people at hostgator so thanks to [TS]

00:42:51   Hostgator again for sponsoring the [TS]

00:42:53   incomparable if so then that the [TS]

00:42:55   narrator Phil you were mentioning that [TS]

00:42:57   this wasn't well-received because they [TS]

00:42:58   definitely have the interlocking [TS]

00:42:59   timelines in fact there are that we [TS]

00:43:02   visit the bar at the at the racetrack [TS]

00:43:05   right the highest actually unfolds they [TS]

00:43:07   they keep rolling back to different [TS]

00:43:09   basically they tell it from the [TS]

00:43:11   perspective of everyone who is [TS]

00:43:12   participating in this in this house so [TS]

00:43:14   you keep seeing the same thing over and [TS]

00:43:16   over again and I kind of liked that bit [TS]

00:43:18   but you know at the time movies where [TS]

00:43:20   that's done well and this one there [TS]

00:43:22   really isn't that much point [TS]

00:43:24   ya know i acting anything from the other [TS]

00:43:26   guy's perspective of the same scene [TS]

00:43:28   again should have just as well be Linda [TS]

00:43:30   well yeah it builds tension a little bit [TS]

00:43:32   i mean i don't know I appreciate you do [TS]

00:43:33   I see what he was going for my best [TS]

00:43:36   guess is that he sort of assumed that [TS]

00:43:37   people wouldn't get it if he was a [TS]

00:43:38   little more ambitious weird and in fact [TS]

00:43:40   i think the variety review at the time [TS]

00:43:42   called that the style somewhat confusing [TS]

00:43:44   you know it's really not that confusing [TS]

00:43:47   it's not yet i thought the narrator made [TS]

00:43:48   it more confusing because well as the [TS]

00:43:50   narrator was was added basically because [TS]

00:43:52   of this is very confusing added narrator [TS]

00:43:54   and the rumor is stanley kubrick so [TS]

00:43:56   hated the narration that he made the [TS]

00:43:58   narration deliberately confusing I again [TS]

00:44:01   this could be apocryphal but but who [TS]

00:44:04   knows [TS]

00:44:05   four days earlier the narrator so [TS]

00:44:07   precise that it's like yes at if four [TS]

00:44:09   days earlier than three minutes earlier [TS]

00:44:11   then two minutes later it's just it's so [TS]

00:44:14   precisely these keeps shifting around 20 [TS]

00:44:16   years later happen shadow it does have [TS]

00:44:20   the feel of someone who is very [TS]

00:44:21   resentful that he had to have a narrator [TS]

00:44:23   i will i will say that yeah yeah there [TS]

00:44:26   are some great lines in this film it is [TS]

00:44:28   and what are your headlines that the [TS]

00:44:29   closing line of and what's the [TS]

00:44:31   difference is fantastic [TS]

00:44:32   whatever-the-hell maurices saying is all [TS]

00:44:34   pretty good and then the parent gets a [TS]

00:44:37   good line to when when George goes down [TS]

00:44:39   he actually you can hear the parrot sort [TS]

00:44:41   of say it fair ain't fair [TS]

00:44:43   yeah that the the dialogue was done by [TS]

00:44:45   jim thompson the hard-boiled crime [TS]

00:44:47   writer [TS]

00:44:48   I've got you an author of The Grifters [TS]

00:44:50   and after dark my sweet and things that [TS]

00:44:54   get adapted into other really good [TS]

00:44:55   turkmen piece right because this is [TS]

00:44:58   basically it's a film noir this this [TS]

00:45:00   movie in a way yeah [TS]

00:45:01   yes I didn't realize how to war it was [TS]

00:45:03   that would tell the Shakespeare like [TS]

00:45:06   ending which I did not see coming at all [TS]

00:45:08   given the rest of the film [TS]

00:45:09   alright so at the end I what we get set [TS]

00:45:13   up a long time at the beginning of the [TS]

00:45:15   movie it gets set up and then I forgot [TS]

00:45:18   about it I I was like all right Elijah [TS]

00:45:21   questions goonies money-grubbing [TS]

00:45:22   money-grubbing whore of a wife has a has [TS]

00:45:25   a little action of a friend who is a [TS]

00:45:27   thug who is going to steal the stolen [TS]

00:45:30   money and double cross or I guess he's [TS]

00:45:32   not in it so it's not double-cross he's [TS]

00:45:33   gonna he's gonna rob the robbers right [TS]

00:45:36   and so he does he walks in and they're [TS]

00:45:37   still waiting because the guy's been [TS]

00:45:39   delayed their they're waiting for for [TS]

00:45:41   the money to get there [TS]

00:45:43   yes and Elijah cook Jr basically he's [TS]

00:45:45   got a gun set up by his money-grubbing [TS]

00:45:47   whore of a wife to think that sterling [TS]

00:45:51   teen and raped her hitting on her yeah [TS]

00:45:53   so very least so he snaps and he's got a [TS]

00:45:57   gun prepared to shoot sterling hate [TS]

00:45:59   right so he shoots a few times and [TS]

00:46:01   picked up several several of the bullets [TS]

00:46:05   passed through multiple people multiple [TS]

00:46:08   times and kill them because it seemed [TS]

00:46:10   like he he only shot you know five or [TS]

00:46:14   six times and yet everybody [TS]

00:46:15   extremely dead everybody's realize that [TS]

00:46:19   the reason that he was bleeding and shot [TS]

00:46:22   up was because there was one shotgun [TS]

00:46:23   blast that was gotten off by the by the [TS]

00:46:25   lover i initially thought he actually [TS]

00:46:27   shot himself a few times the lever also [TS]

00:46:29   has a has a little accomplice to Andy [TS]

00:46:31   fires yeah there's a lot of shooting I [TS]

00:46:34   believe several several gaffers died [TS]

00:46:36   during that scene but everybody's dead [TS]

00:46:39   except for 11 don't already been killed [TS]

00:46:41   by the music and Elijah cooks eyes are [TS]

00:46:43   wide and he's like and he's got he's got [TS]

00:46:46   blood all over him and he's pleased yeah [TS]

00:46:48   he gets hit by some straight fire he [TS]

00:46:50   doesn't die immediately that was when [TS]

00:46:52   the movie turned awesome to me because I [TS]

00:46:55   really did not see that coming [TS]

00:46:56   he stumbles out into sterling Aidan's [TS]

00:46:58   car and sterling Hayden of course avoids [TS]

00:47:01   all of this because he got stuck in [TS]

00:47:02   traffic [TS]

00:47:03   yeah this is la la my way yeah but then [TS]

00:47:06   he's undone by the ability like my [TS]

00:47:07   carry-on luggage like petty bureaucrats [TS]

00:47:10   and a well-lit that's what so LAX [TS]

00:47:13   so what we'll get we'll get to the the [TS]

00:47:15   problems of the airline industry in the [TS]

00:47:17   know if only i had paid attention to the [TS]

00:47:19   TSA guidelines sign my suitcase but so [TS]

00:47:22   Elijah cook goes back to his money [TS]

00:47:25   grubbing wife she's awful and and she's [TS]

00:47:28   packing and she's saying as he walks in [TS]

00:47:31   Oh boyfriend who double-crossed those [TS]

00:47:33   guys let's go away and then she turned [TS]

00:47:36   you into double-crossing my husband yet [TS]

00:47:37   oh crap oh no that anyone was awake and [TS]

00:47:42   over her suitcases like I'm just taking [TS]

00:47:43   some stuff to the cleaner is you know [TS]

00:47:46   interesting she couldn't handle I shook [TS]

00:47:49   it looks like he's gone blind [TS]

00:47:51   he's like literally acting like he's [TS]

00:47:52   blind he's like his eyes are wide and [TS]

00:47:54   he's looking around and he and he shoots [TS]

00:47:57   her to that is the most marvelously shot [TS]

00:48:00   scene 2 when he's sort of draped over [TS]

00:48:02   the birdcage and shot from sort of down [TS]

00:48:05   into the left and the shadows are just a [TS]

00:48:08   really highlight his face there it's a [TS]

00:48:09   gorgeous see and i think it's it's [TS]

00:48:11   probably the best seat in the film for [TS]

00:48:13   being he asked her one last time for [TS]

00:48:15   some help to call the colony ambulance [TS]

00:48:17   or something and she's like I do it [TS]

00:48:19   yourself [TS]

00:48:19   all right then that answers my question [TS]

00:48:22   that were having some fun with the the [TS]

00:48:26   plotting and whatnot but it's a beauty [TS]

00:48:28   free shot movie and and just great use [TS]

00:48:31   of shadow great use of lighting that [TS]

00:48:33   many of times you see the characters [TS]

00:48:35   throughout the throughout the movie [TS]

00:48:38   behind bars of some sort and it's yes [TS]

00:48:42   it's really a you can really see Stanley [TS]

00:48:46   Kubrick sprinkling some Cooper dust on [TS]

00:48:48   it and this was the just the right [TS]

00:48:50   amount [TS]

00:48:51   yeah where he kind of made his bones and [TS]

00:48:53   from here he made the paths of glory and [TS]

00:48:56   then three years later he did spartacus [TS]

00:48:58   and and so this was kind of where he you [TS]

00:49:02   know broke out of the cocoon and became [TS]

00:49:04   a a beautiful butterfly who made [TS]

00:49:06   haunting movies when his is a idea at [TS]

00:49:10   the time was to make good movies cheap [TS]

00:49:13   and you know I said just because it's [TS]

00:49:16   cheaply made doesn't mean it can't be [TS]

00:49:17   good right and doesn't mean i can still [TS]

00:49:20   lose money apparently though [TS]

00:49:21   roger corman thought the same thing [TS]

00:49:23   except for the good part in the in the [TS]

00:49:26   chatroom the good doctor doctor drinking [TS]

00:49:29   points out something that I noticed too [TS]

00:49:32   weak always said that tracking shot of [TS]

00:49:34   sterling Hayden walking through the room [TS]

00:49:36   it's just you know it's this long [TS]

00:49:37   sliding tracking shot and that's the one [TS]

00:49:40   I noticed I was like haha i think this [TS]

00:49:42   director might make something of himself [TS]

00:49:44   well the other thing that's nice about [TS]

00:49:45   that is it's not it's not just utterly [TS]

00:49:46   pointless because it sets up the layout [TS]

00:49:48   of the room for oh yeah when the [TS]

00:49:50   conflict happens it is showing enough [TS]

00:49:52   that i'm glad that i'm also thinking [TS]

00:49:54   this is a director who wants to point [TS]

00:49:56   out that he is capable of is doing good [TS]

00:49:59   work that is showy and and and [TS]

00:50:02   interesting like this but it's good it's [TS]

00:50:04   it's very good [TS]

00:50:06   yeah the decorator really sabotage this [TS]

00:50:08   movie for me that was that's that i kept [TS]

00:50:11   getting back bay back to that narrator [TS]

00:50:13   who i think i'm not sure who the [TS]

00:50:14   narrator is but he sounds like one of [TS]

00:50:15   those guys who is probably a an android [TS]

00:50:18   or stora or a world consciousness [TS]

00:50:20   computer or something on Star Trek he's [TS]

00:50:23   got that human airway magneti yeah well [TS]

00:50:25   yeah the dragnet was exactly what I [TS]

00:50:26   thought but I think the thing that had [TS]

00:50:28   that it helped for me was the fact that [TS]

00:50:31   it's set sort of a dragnet feel to the [TS]

00:50:34   thing and then when the whole the [TS]

00:50:35   slaughter occur uh-huh i was i was [TS]

00:50:38   utterly unprepared for that because i [TS]

00:50:40   had been [TS]

00:50:41   and prepared for more of a Joe Friday [TS]

00:50:43   kind of a kind of an ending in there are [TS]

00:50:45   no heroes in this movie not a one even [TS]

00:50:49   more than dragnet it's a lot like it's a [TS]

00:50:52   lot like The Naked City both the movie [TS]

00:50:55   and then the TV series which is [TS]

00:50:57   different from the film but they both [TS]

00:50:59   have that kind of narration it's a [TS]

00:51:01   little more artful indeed city but uh [TS]

00:51:05   it's very much and then two hours [TS]

00:51:09   earlier and that kind of thing [TS]

00:51:11   it's much more and it focuses more on [TS]

00:51:14   the people of the story as opposed to [TS]

00:51:16   the cops who are supposedly the heroes [TS]

00:51:17   of the show so it's a widow it almost [TS]

00:51:21   struck me like a spoof of the Naked City [TS]

00:51:24   can do narration III question for you [TS]

00:51:27   guys which is what what in your [TS]

00:51:29   impression is the title reference to [TS]

00:51:33   making immediately making everything [TS]

00:51:35   they're gonna make a killing and then [TS]

00:51:37   people get killed [TS]

00:51:37   see it's upon it is apparent that but I [TS]

00:51:40   don't know I there are other things in [TS]

00:51:41   there that I I think you could [TS]

00:51:43   distribute it i mean there is obviously [TS]

00:51:44   as we just talked about the blood bath [TS]

00:51:46   scene could follow that I thought the [TS]

00:51:47   translation of the horse killing works [TS]

00:51:49   yeah since that sort of like the only [TS]

00:51:52   real you know it planned murder if you [TS]

00:51:56   can call it matters not even murder it's [TS]

00:51:57   going horse I don't know what it is in [TS]

00:51:59   the end is killing the horse actually [TS]

00:52:00   serve much purpose that that is the [TS]

00:52:02   thing with that watching this movie [TS]

00:52:03   again I thought man that the killing the [TS]

00:52:06   horse seems just gratuitous really [TS]

00:52:08   unnecessary [TS]

00:52:09   yeah they could have distracted people [TS]

00:52:10   he could have driven his little car onto [TS]

00:52:12   the racetrack and cause a distraction a [TS]

00:52:16   couple years ago at the Preakness Stakes [TS]

00:52:18   in in Maryland some there's a drunk guy [TS]

00:52:21   ran onto the track that could it worked [TS]

00:52:24   sure you don't have to shoot horses they [TS]

00:52:26   should've sent the Russian guided to run [TS]

00:52:28   fast rap wrestled the horse race or [TS]

00:52:30   fourth this invention that way they [TS]

00:52:33   could save $5,000 well I guess there are [TS]

00:52:36   a lot of sort of small things that go [TS]

00:52:38   wrong with the with the highest right i [TS]

00:52:39   mean the the the elder gentlemen shows [TS]

00:52:42   up drunk and you keep expecting [TS]

00:52:44   something horrible to have right here [TS]

00:52:45   never be polite to a parking attendant I [TS]

00:52:48   think this is just another one of those [TS]

00:52:49   things where you've been you've been set [TS]

00:52:50   up to believe that the horse is going to [TS]

00:52:52   go down and take out [TS]

00:52:53   the entire field and then he doesn't [TS]

00:52:55   anything maybe that's gonna screw things [TS]

00:52:57   up by killing the front-runner suddenly [TS]

00:53:00   all the longshots have a chance [TS]

00:53:02   yeah and whoever wins the race that's [TS]

00:53:04   gonna cause a rush of people on onto the [TS]

00:53:07   the the betting windows yeah that's more [TS]

00:53:10   can use was chaos [TS]

00:53:11   yeah in the in the building where there [TS]

00:53:13   they've already got the fight and he's [TS]

00:53:16   already you know sterling Hayden goes up [TS]

00:53:19   there with a mask and and holds them up [TS]

00:53:21   at at at gunpoint [TS]

00:53:24   there's also we didn't even mention [TS]

00:53:27   there's like the guitar case and there's [TS]

00:53:29   the flower box and they've got rifles in [TS]

00:53:31   them and they they have exchanged the [TS]

00:53:33   mall at this sort of CD like trailer [TS]

00:53:36   motel place that's run by a very [TS]

00:53:39   friendly Italian man Joe piano sophiana [TS]

00:53:42   speaking of scenes that don't really [TS]

00:53:45   make any sense when when sterling Hayden [TS]

00:53:47   goes back to collect the money he goes [TS]

00:53:49   to the wrong like bungalow briefly [TS]

00:53:52   there's like a secondary walks up and [TS]

00:53:54   some guys like what and it'll go wrong [TS]

00:53:56   as great as it scares the hell outta you [TS]

00:53:58   think your hands that's meant to build [TS]

00:54:00   tension method yeah jarring and oh god [TS]

00:54:02   what now [TS]

00:54:03   oh ok and then he goes into his room and [TS]

00:54:05   the dramatic in entering the hotel [TS]

00:54:07   roughing up kicks it scares the hell [TS]

00:54:09   Eddie all over there over there it's [TS]

00:54:11   just the money [TS]

00:54:12   don't dude so okay so they throw that [TS]

00:54:16   they have this clever thing we put they [TS]

00:54:17   put all the money in the duffel bag and [TS]

00:54:19   that's a great scene because it goes on [TS]

00:54:20   you know i got so tense and watching [TS]

00:54:22   that scene because you're thinking you [TS]

00:54:23   knowing [TS]

00:54:24   times ticking time is ticking gotta go [TS]

00:54:25   to gotta go hurry up hurry up and he [TS]

00:54:28   makes you watch this clerk incompetently [TS]

00:54:34   stuff loose cash into a bag for me it [TS]

00:54:38   seems like four minutes very [TS]

00:54:40   matter-of-factly is just very slowly [TS]

00:54:42   stuffing it and finally gotten close up [TS]

00:54:44   that's enough so i really like that and [TS]

00:54:48   then they throw the bag out the window [TS]

00:54:49   and they retrieve the bag later in this [TS]

00:54:50   misdirection and that's great but the [TS]

00:54:52   thing that gets me as he gets it he gets [TS]

00:54:54   a suitcase because they know that it was [TS]

00:54:57   in a duffel bag so i guess he wants to [TS]

00:54:59   switch it for a suitcase so he can take [TS]

00:55:01   it on the flight and all that you get [TS]

00:55:02   the big suitcase and the thing that [TS]

00:55:04   killed me is he's got a perfectly [TS]

00:55:06   contain duffel [TS]

00:55:07   bag full of money so he drives out into [TS]

00:55:10   the countryside behind some trees gets [TS]

00:55:12   out and empties all the money out of the [TS]

00:55:14   duffel bag it's blowing around and tries [TS]

00:55:16   to stuff it in and like sit on the [TS]

00:55:18   suitcase like why don't you just put the [TS]

00:55:20   duffel bag in the suitcase then uw-w [TS]

00:55:23   Baghdad and the answer is revealed [TS]

00:55:25   several minutes later when it turns out [TS]

00:55:27   that your Airlines you know we think the [TS]

00:55:29   airlines are bad now but airlines didn't [TS]

00:55:31   care about you even in the fifties they [TS]

00:55:33   won't let you check your carry-on bag [TS]

00:55:34   take your carry-on bag on the plane you [TS]

00:55:36   gotta check it he couldn't fit that [TS]

00:55:38   underneath the seat and then a lady has [TS]

00:55:40   a dog and it runs out onto the tarmac [TS]

00:55:43   and all of a sudden all of your stolen [TS]

00:55:46   money is blown away by giant turbojet [TS]

00:55:49   engine turbo prop engines yeah I i had [TS]

00:55:52   two thoughts as I was watching that [TS]

00:55:53   scene the fruit the first thought was [TS]

00:55:54   that this ending wouldn't have work [TS]

00:55:56   today because with all the security I or [TS]

00:56:00   even your theory I'm I all today I got [TS]

00:56:02   to take the money with me on the [TS]

00:56:03   carry-on bag they're still going to [TS]

00:56:05   check it so yeah they're gonna say oh [TS]

00:56:06   yeah that's full of money that's what [TS]

00:56:08   allowed with a poodle with never been [TS]

00:56:09   let out onto the tarmac you know well it [TS]

00:56:12   did that and am I ever thought was a boy [TS]

00:56:14   american airlines i'm not sure why they [TS]

00:56:16   participated in this to show that [TS]

00:56:20   they're sticklers for policy we here at [TS]

00:56:23   American Airlines disapprove of track [TS]

00:56:25   heists that one manager really takes a [TS]

00:56:28   lot of delight in like telling him he's [TS]

00:56:30   gonna bump him off the flight i'll give [TS]

00:56:31   you your money back [TS]

00:56:32   we here at American Airlines really want [TS]

00:56:35   to follow the rules we're not the kind [TS]

00:56:36   of people who would rob a track and want [TS]

00:56:39   to emphasize that if you refuse to [TS]

00:56:41   follow the rules will happily refund [TS]

00:56:42   your money [TS]

00:56:43   I i wonder if like american airlines [TS]

00:56:46   agreed to be in that movie that we come [TS]

00:56:47   across really reasonable in that movie [TS]

00:56:49   was gonna sit there and go wow that's [TS]

00:56:51   the airline I want to fly because they [TS]

00:56:53   don't work nonsense [TS]

00:56:54   no no shenanigans here that's the air [TS]

00:56:57   line of snitches I'm not taking them is [TS]

00:57:00   not cases stop it with the fifties under [TS]

00:57:01   my seat the head here at TWA will never [TS]

00:57:05   rat you out to the cops [TS]

00:57:06   you will get away scot-free TWA the [TS]

00:57:09   airline for crooks you've got a bat you [TS]

00:57:12   got a sack full of loose cash and what [TS]

00:57:16   do you do do you keep it in the sack [TS]

00:57:20   or do you say sort of like you're going [TS]

00:57:23   to be in one of those a little plaques [TS]

00:57:25   against glass booths where you have to [TS]

00:57:26   catch all the money in five minutes or [TS]

00:57:28   whatever at the State Fair do you say oh [TS]

00:57:31   this is great i'm outside there's a [TS]

00:57:32   breeze blowing I'm just gonna pull over [TS]

00:57:34   to the side of the road and and try to [TS]

00:57:36   stuff it in this suitcase it's just [TS]

00:57:38   sterling hate not the smartest move [TS]

00:57:40   that's what i'm saying i would just keep [TS]

00:57:42   driving yeah you too smart not too [TS]

00:57:45   pretty [TS]

00:57:45   do you know why fly just drive I know I [TS]

00:57:48   know your girl who's not too bright and [TS]

00:57:49   not too pretty is waiting for you back [TS]

00:57:51   home but just just drive and then the [TS]

00:57:54   old man could have come with them on the [TS]

00:57:56   trip if they had driven the old man yes [TS]

00:57:59   it could have been a lovely time that is [TS]

00:58:01   a strange scene III hate to keep our [TS]

00:58:04   people yeah but there's a scene where [TS]

00:58:06   that he says to the old man who's been [TS]

00:58:07   so kind of well I guess we'll the capers [TS]

00:58:10   about to come to an end and will not see [TS]

00:58:11   each other hey you could take me with [TS]

00:58:13   you don't get married mary marriage is [TS]

00:58:16   for suckers [TS]

00:58:17   nothing better than two guys hanging out [TS]

00:58:19   with each other [TS]

00:58:20   yeah well as is he actually is he [TS]

00:58:22   actually expressing an attraction there [TS]

00:58:25   in 1956 is not is I weird its policy eat [TS]

00:58:29   it every way to set up your the son I [TS]

00:58:31   never had but its its kind of weirdly [TS]

00:58:35   put well and then he said you know you [TS]

00:58:37   you don't want to marry the wrong person [TS]

00:58:38   here that I don't know it seems a little [TS]

00:58:41   forward thinking for 1956 and that's why [TS]

00:58:43   it took me by surprise in a movie today [TS]

00:58:45   I would absolutely say that's what it [TS]

00:58:47   was about but it's plausible in the in [TS]

00:58:49   the North books of the fifties and it [TS]

00:58:51   explains why he's he's drunk at the [TS]

00:58:53   track later too because he's been [TS]

00:58:55   spurned yeah right and and it's it's the [TS]

00:58:58   kind of thing you couldn't you couldn't [TS]

00:58:59   say outright in a film back then but you [TS]

00:59:02   could you could hint at it in the book [TS]

00:59:04   right [TS]

00:59:04   and considering jim thompson's like [TS]

00:59:06   plausible and I just saw North by [TS]

00:59:11   Northwest also from the fifties and that [TS]

00:59:13   of course has martin landau professing [TS]

00:59:16   his undying love I mean any loyalty [TS]

00:59:18   loyalty [TS]

00:59:20   yes that's what it is for calling my [TS]

00:59:22   woman's intuition yeah [TS]

00:59:24   oh my god so yeah it's there it's a [TS]

00:59:27   subtext made that one for another time [TS]

00:59:28   that's great yeah [TS]

00:59:30   yes so I guess we should we should sum [TS]

00:59:32   this up I [TS]

00:59:34   somebody mentioned earlier is is I do [TS]

00:59:37   think it's interesting that both these [TS]

00:59:38   moves the they do have essentially the [TS]

00:59:40   same ending which is crime doesn't pay [TS]

00:59:41   friends and you know and share the fact [TS]

00:59:45   another thing that I thought was [TS]

00:59:46   interesting is that in both of these [TS]

00:59:47   films these are honorable thieves you [TS]

00:59:49   know you don't [TS]

00:59:50   nobody's out to backstab the others like [TS]

00:59:53   something within the group [TS]

00:59:54   yeah he was eating a different he's ok [TS]

00:59:56   he's a dirty thief he's a bit i love [TS]

00:59:57   that you gotta love that scene in [TS]

00:59:59   Lavender Hill mob [TS]

00:59:59   Lavender Hill mob [TS]

01:00:00   where the the guys are like now we can't [TS]

01:00:02   really go to Paris with you but we trust [TS]

01:00:03   you you're the straightest guys we know [TS]

01:00:05   you know like that to me is such a but [TS]

01:00:08   it's such a counterintuitive hilarious [TS]

01:00:10   scene where they're like yeah but we're [TS]

01:00:13   sure you would come back and give us our [TS]

01:00:14   share of the money because why wouldn't [TS]

01:00:16   you [TS]

01:00:17   whereas in this in the killing certainly [TS]

01:00:19   Hayden's just like up taking off with [TS]

01:00:20   the money [TS]

01:00:21   everyone else is probably dead I'm not [TS]

01:00:22   gonna check they think that they had [TS]

01:00:24   agreed to that ahead of time though [TS]

01:00:25   wasn't as a narrator explains quite [TS]

01:00:27   clearly you are you suggesting strongly [TS]

01:00:30   hadn't heard the narration that its [TS]

01:00:32   earlier 20 minutes ago [TS]

01:00:35   Elijah cook shot everybody so you should [TS]

01:00:37   really get a move on [TS]

01:00:39   crime doesn't pay this is all I'm saying [TS]

01:00:46   now [TS]

01:00:48   crime doesn't pay now i think that i [TS]

01:00:49   think you know we've had some last night [TS]

01:00:51   fellas that really [TS]

01:00:53   crime doesn't pay this this is the [TS]

01:00:56   freeze-frame real laugh for it [TS]

01:00:57   I i had this caper in mind where I was [TS]

01:00:59   going to appear as a guest in the [TS]

01:01:01   podcast is a distraction and then my [TS]

01:01:03   crew was going to rob the podcast of all [TS]

01:01:05   its fortunes which is yet but fell short [TS]

01:01:08   when you realize we have no money [TS]

01:01:09   exactly there's no money in a podcasting [TS]

01:01:12   and now word from our sponsor wait I've [TS]

01:01:16   already had all the sponsors boxes those [TS]

01:01:18   airline regulations you think are so [TS]

01:01:20   stupid are there to protect you against [TS]

01:01:22   petty criminals [TS]

01:01:23   yeah where would you rank these in the [TS]

01:01:25   list of great caper movies to the extent [TS]

01:01:28   that you've seen caper movies I i love [TS]

01:01:32   the Lavender Hill mob I've seen it many [TS]

01:01:35   many times I like the killing and have [TS]

01:01:39   seen it many times but it's really hard [TS]

01:01:42   to watch now because again because [TS]

01:01:45   everything has been done so many times [TS]

01:01:47   but also because it's it's I don't know [TS]

01:01:50   it's like two inches away from being a [TS]

01:01:52   mystery science theater kind of movie [TS]

01:01:54   because everything is Oh Johnny don't do [TS]

01:01:57   that and everybody is just you know [TS]

01:02:00   harping on the name Johnny Johnny Jolly [TS]

01:02:03   what are you doing you know and then you [TS]

01:02:07   have the narrator and the music [TS]

01:02:08   you know it's it's sort of like the [TS]

01:02:11   ultimate almost bad nor movie it's great [TS]

01:02:15   you know it's got some wonderful stuff [TS]

01:02:17   but it's just so hard for me to watch [TS]

01:02:19   now where's the Lavender Hill mob mob is [TS]

01:02:22   just charming [TS]

01:02:23   yeah it's you know and I I like that [TS]

01:02:27   well I I like there's this sort of [TS]

01:02:29   tradition of shaggy dog ending in canton [TS]

01:02:32   caper films like Ocean's eleven the [TS]

01:02:34   original wherever in the money in there [TS]

01:02:38   any money [TS]

01:02:39   the one guy dies and they go well we'll [TS]

01:02:41   get the money out in the coffin and they [TS]

01:02:43   don't realize that he's going to be [TS]

01:02:45   cremated and they all kind of walk out [TS]

01:02:47   of the funeral going and at the end of [TS]

01:02:50   the movie that's a great ended and you [TS]

01:02:53   know spoiler hard so yeah I mean I i [TS]

01:02:59   would put Lavender Hill mob higher up [TS]

01:03:01   than the killing III and also what I put [TS]

01:03:06   right with Lavender Hill mob is a fish [TS]

01:03:07   called wanda which was directed by [TS]

01:03:10   Charles Creighton who directed Lavender [TS]

01:03:12   Hill mob that is a great movie that [TS]

01:03:14   actually put that above left to give up [TS]

01:03:16   because the plots just a little tighter [TS]

01:03:19   I'd say the sting if you're if you're [TS]

01:03:22   looking for the best caper movie [TS]

01:03:23   probably the sting is the one night with [TS]

01:03:25   students [TS]

01:03:26   oh yeah I put that my top five now watch [TS]

01:03:28   that just just recently just a few [TS]

01:03:30   months ago again for the like fourth or [TS]

01:03:32   fifth time and if you're looking for a [TS]

01:03:35   modern-day caper movie with kind of the [TS]

01:03:39   life-affirming a howl of the killing [TS]

01:03:42   I i would go with a house of games which [TS]

01:03:46   is a oh yeah David Mamet movie from [TS]

01:03:49   before hehe went right off his nut and [TS]

01:03:51   it is it is terrific [TS]

01:03:55   also the Spanish prisoner in Spanish [TS]

01:03:58   prisoners quite david mamet's made quite [TS]

01:03:59   a few good ice enjoyed case i was about [TS]

01:04:02   to say high school fees including but [TS]

01:04:04   not limited to see if it has one of my [TS]

01:04:07   favorite lines in it [TS]

01:04:09   everybody wanted money that's why they [TS]

01:04:10   call it money yeah i just i love it's [TS]

01:04:14   the devito just a great great delivery [TS]

01:04:17   I have a hard time getting into Lavender [TS]

01:04:18   Hill mob I gotta be honest i'm with you [TS]

01:04:20   on this one [TS]

01:04:22   a hard time getting into it and i think [TS]

01:04:23   that may be why when it turned into a [TS]

01:04:25   zany romp through the police expo and [TS]

01:04:29   and and various cop cars running around [TS]

01:04:32   all that I kind of woke up a little bit [TS]

01:04:34   but I i was i found the the first part [TS]

01:04:38   it just it was hard for me to access it [TS]

01:04:40   just felt a little bit sleepy to me the [TS]

01:04:41   killing [TS]

01:04:42   I would paint it I paid attention the [TS]

01:04:44   entire time i did feel like this was you [TS]

01:04:47   know I i was watching a noir caper kind [TS]

01:04:50   of movie and it was hard-boiled and the [TS]

01:04:53   narrator was very confusing although [TS]

01:04:55   funny i mean i just started to laugh at [TS]

01:04:57   all the detail that the Neriah gave and [TS]

01:04:59   and I and and it was very tense during [TS]

01:05:02   the actual caper portion I really did [TS]

01:05:06   feel that tension of the you know come [TS]

01:05:07   on put the money in the bag but the [TS]

01:05:09   money in the bag you know don't shoot [TS]

01:05:11   the horse all of that I don't know the [TS]

01:05:13   killing I guess I i appreciated although [TS]

01:05:15   I probably i'm not sure i would revisit [TS]

01:05:18   it i'm michael i got Elijah cook stuff [TS]

01:05:20   though I think maybe I liked I think [TS]

01:05:22   maybe I liked the killing more but i [TS]

01:05:25   know i'm not sure i would i think i can [TS]

01:05:27   see that it's maybe not as good a movie [TS]

01:05:29   is the Lavender Hill mob but i think i'm [TS]

01:05:30   going to enjoyed it more because parts [TS]

01:05:33   of it were so over-the-top and kind of [TS]

01:05:35   almost I don't I don't I don't really [TS]

01:05:39   know it's like it's like it feels in [TS]

01:05:41   some ways like oh this is the kind of [TS]

01:05:43   movie that they made the crime movies [TS]

01:05:46   that they would make and it's and it's [TS]

01:05:47   kind of too much of everything it was [TS]

01:05:49   also a huge influence on Reservoir Dogs [TS]

01:05:51   yeah i can see that i was going to take [TS]

01:05:54   and if they get this is work here to [TS]

01:05:56   Quentin Tarantino stole all of his [TS]

01:05:57   tricks [TS]

01:05:58   yeah he said that point blank bill had [TS]

01:06:00   asked us at one point to consider [TS]

01:06:01   whether some of these films might bear [TS]

01:06:03   remake and I i think in this case if [TS]

01:06:06   they remade The Killing modern audiences [TS]

01:06:08   would say it was ripping off Tarantino [TS]

01:06:10   yeah [TS]

01:06:10   yep yep yeah I don't you think it has do [TS]

01:06:12   you think the appreciation of some of [TS]

01:06:13   these things has to do more with you [TS]

01:06:15   know also your exposure to things of [TS]

01:06:18   this similar ilk [TS]

01:06:20   I mean I'm speaking for I love the love [TS]

01:06:22   Lavender Hill mob and that's because the [TS]

01:06:24   thing that these two movies have in [TS]

01:06:26   common for me is actually both of them [TS]

01:06:28   were shown to me by my dad who is not a [TS]

01:06:31   aficionado much of you know modern [TS]

01:06:33   movies but he he really well [TS]

01:06:35   classic movies especially in war movies [TS]

01:06:36   and so he introduced me to both of these [TS]

01:06:39   and they are their distinct in yet [TS]

01:06:41   similar in some ways but I that's what I [TS]

01:06:43   associate them with is the movie / my [TS]

01:06:45   dad says that would be watching and I [TS]

01:06:46   watched many old movies with him when I [TS]

01:06:48   was growing up you know a lot of them [TS]

01:06:51   comedies but you know many of them in [TS]

01:06:54   later years when I was a teenager and [TS]

01:06:55   more movies you with the bill were [TS]

01:06:56   playing at the local movie house and so [TS]

01:06:58   I i gained a lot of appreciation for [TS]

01:07:00   them in that way even if at times they [TS]

01:07:02   felt kind of slow and ponderous [TS]

01:07:03   especially as I've gotten older i really [TS]

01:07:05   see all the intricacies in the you know [TS]

01:07:07   the the construction of them and I i [TS]

01:07:10   really like both of these movies i do [TS]

01:07:12   think 11 a whole mob i think is probably [TS]

01:07:13   the one I prefer just because i really [TS]

01:07:15   love Alec Guinness but yeah I I'm fan [TS]

01:07:20   both of them also not only is this [TS]

01:07:22   surprisingly directed by by the director [TS]

01:07:24   of a fish called wanda the [TS]

01:07:25   cinematographer is the cinematographer [TS]

01:07:27   welcome of raiders of the lost ark and [TS]

01:07:30   the other three acknowledged Indiana [TS]

01:07:33   Jones movies as well as you know like [TS]

01:07:37   the Italian the italian job you know [TS]

01:07:39   still why do I believe he's a hundred [TS]

01:07:41   years ago seasons yeah so Phil what if [TS]

01:07:44   we have are you surprised by our [TS]

01:07:47   reactions do you find a you-know-what [TS]

01:07:48   what have we what have you told us what [TS]

01:07:50   we missed [TS]

01:07:52   now I I think you you pretty much got I [TS]

01:07:55   i was i I was thinking actually that the [TS]

01:07:57   Lavender Hill mob would be a hard sell [TS]

01:08:00   for today's today's audience because [TS]

01:08:03   it's not it's not a comedy style [TS]

01:08:06   currently in vogue it's it's a it's a [TS]

01:08:09   little relaxed [TS]

01:08:10   yeah exact that very good yeah that [TS]

01:08:13   that's a very good adjective to describe [TS]

01:08:16   it it's it's one of those things where [TS]

01:08:19   you you would read if you're reading the [TS]

01:08:21   store and you go oh that's funny isn't [TS]

01:08:24   it laughing out out loud it's like The [TS]

01:08:26   Reader's Digest caper film [TS]

01:08:28   yeah exactly um and rewatching the [TS]

01:08:33   killing because it's been a few years [TS]

01:08:34   since I've seen that [TS]

01:08:37   didn't hold up as well as a as I had [TS]

01:08:39   remembered and some of the points of how [TS]

01:08:43   God that that soundtrack and the [TS]

01:08:47   narrator and just did it [TS]

01:08:50   I i learned a little bit two fellows and [TS]

01:08:53   not just a crime doesn't hate I but we [TS]

01:08:58   did learn that we all we all win yeah [TS]

01:08:59   well I you'd have to be a fool to miss [TS]

01:09:01   that lesson that was an important lesson [TS]

01:09:03   I was kind of hammered home that was not [TS]

01:09:04   very subtle no crime crime pays just [TS]

01:09:07   very very very briefly for a year while [TS]

01:09:09   you're in some cases that's pretty [TS]

01:09:11   reality this is basically the only one [TS]

01:09:12   who gets anything out of that the wages [TS]

01:09:14   of sin are death but the hours are [TS]

01:09:16   greater frankly a year and audrey [TS]

01:09:18   hepburn I i would go for it [TS]

01:09:20   you risk the jail time sure got to think [TS]

01:09:23   that reasonable answer is one with it in [TS]

01:09:25   a post-credit sequence a lagina skit has [TS]

01:09:28   his thugs waiting outside the hotel [TS]

01:09:30   knocks the British constable unconscious [TS]

01:09:33   and he flees and who recruited to join [TS]

01:09:36   the adventure he pleased to tatooine [TS]

01:09:38   where he become yes i do want to make [TS]

01:09:42   mention of what i think is probably the [TS]

01:09:43   best gag line in the film which is a [TS]

01:09:45   forget who's saying it might be the [TS]

01:09:47   police think the guys who's caught the [TS]

01:09:51   painter character and is sort of shaking [TS]

01:09:54   him down because he thinks he's stolen [TS]

01:09:55   something from the street vendor right [TS]

01:09:57   in the the cop yells 999 and the guys [TS]

01:10:00   responses no no no I thought was pretty [TS]

01:10:05   good when we recommend these movies to [TS]

01:10:07   friends and loved ones and webcast [TS]

01:10:10   listeners who work slowly friends and [TS]

01:10:12   loved ones I I actually watched the [TS]

01:10:15   Lavender Hill mob with both of the kids [TS]

01:10:17   and they they paid attention to the [TS]

01:10:19   whole thing so I can't wait to show them [TS]

01:10:21   the killing [TS]

01:10:22   yeah I think you could show people [TS]

01:10:27   Lavender Hill mob a a modern audience [TS]

01:10:31   the Lavender Hill mob and get away with [TS]

01:10:32   it more reasonably if you have a if it's [TS]

01:10:36   a friend you know and you know that they [TS]

01:10:39   can laugh at anything [TS]

01:10:43   xs and and kind of kooky stuff i think [TS]

01:10:47   the killing might work because again [TS]

01:10:49   that narrator is [TS]

01:10:51   really hilarious especially in his way [TS]

01:10:53   but we I think if i had to pick one [TS]

01:10:55   foremost taste i would probably say the [TS]

01:10:57   Lavender Hill mob because either you [TS]

01:10:59   like the first part which is which has [TS]

01:11:01   the tone that that that you guys have [TS]

01:11:02   described its relaxed or if that doesn't [TS]

01:11:05   work for you know halfway through it [TS]

01:11:07   becomes a me chase picture for a while [TS]

01:11:09   so friday in 1227 am Jason decided which [TS]

01:11:12   of the movies he liked better thank you [TS]

01:11:15   married her that's funny i would have [TS]

01:11:17   said exactly the opposite the killing [TS]

01:11:19   work for me it it held my attention and [TS]

01:11:21   I think your average modern viewer gets [TS]

01:11:24   over the the narrator pretty quickly [TS]

01:11:27   because they just assume it's of the [TS]

01:11:28   period huh [TS]

01:11:30   and the Lavender Hill mob I spend a lot [TS]

01:11:32   of time kind of looking at my watch [TS]

01:11:34   you know it i I couldn't decide whether [TS]

01:11:36   I appreciated that it was relaxing or I [TS]

01:11:39   was just kind of bored by it and while i [TS]

01:11:42   did enjoy the film I mean Dave David [TS]

01:11:44   used the term charming and it is but you [TS]

01:11:49   know it's a little slow and humor I [TS]

01:11:53   don't think works that much but you're a [TS]

01:11:56   little slow in your humor doesn't work [TS]

01:11:58   leave a comment like that our listeners [TS]

01:12:01   have asked for all this time take it [TS]

01:12:03   back now I i love Steve too much to be [TS]

01:12:06   like you've killed obi-wan and knew I [TS]

01:12:09   ultimately i'd i enjoyed it enjoyed it i [TS]

01:12:11   just it it was just a little too slow [TS]

01:12:13   and I just don't I i'm not sure who I [TS]

01:12:16   would try to recommend this to unless it [TS]

01:12:20   was somebody that was specifically [TS]

01:12:21   asking for older for movies just to gain [TS]

01:12:24   breath kind of like what we're doing [TS]

01:12:25   here [TS]

01:12:26   how about a Russian wrestler likes to [TS]

01:12:27   play chess would you recommend it to him [TS]

01:12:30   god I love that guy seriously man I [TS]

01:12:33   could watch two hours of Justin you're [TS]

01:12:37   in luck Steve I've got the movie for you [TS]

01:12:39   did anybody understand enough of his [TS]

01:12:41   speech upon leaving the just economy he [TS]

01:12:44   was he told the guy like it is like [TS]

01:12:46   basically like you get locked up or [TS]

01:12:48   something is like call this guy until my [TS]

01:12:50   needed services right yeah which guy [TS]

01:12:52   what guy who we talking about i don't [TS]

01:12:53   think i'll probably his lawyer new yeah [TS]

01:12:55   like your jizz quarter-on-quarter lawyer [TS]

01:12:58   it seems like it could have been [TS]

01:12:59   important but i had no clue what he was [TS]

01:13:00   such a different movie it's a totally [TS]

01:13:02   different move [TS]

01:13:03   there's a movie about breaking him out [TS]

01:13:05   of prison it's the killing to electric I [TS]

01:13:07   would I was so like Shane Murray's [TS]

01:13:09   unleashed 2004 race will be back in the [TS]

01:13:16   killing of the English language yes [TS]

01:13:19   Maurice and the old lady from the [TS]

01:13:21   Lavender Hill mob team up in huh [TS]

01:13:23   happy money are you not arresting her i [TS]

01:13:27   watch that movie that's pretty it all [TS]

01:13:29   right I should we should we close up [TS]

01:13:32   this inaugural edition of old movie club [TS]

01:13:34   we actually shared before the cop is [TS]

01:13:38   coming to movie is fading into the the [TS]

01:13:41   mists of time my hip [TS]

01:13:44   remember me say these old movies you can [TS]

01:13:46   watch me again we're on Turner Classic [TS]

01:13:49   Movies you're one of your streaming [TS]

01:13:51   services that we don't even know exists [TS]

01:13:53   because we were made so long ago it it's [TS]

01:13:56   amazing that there are images show up on [TS]

01:13:59   the other computers and their sold [TS]

01:14:02   well uh Phil thank you so much for [TS]

01:14:05   suggesting that we watch these movies [TS]

01:14:07   and the and again they're available for [TS]

01:14:10   anyone to rent which is which is again [TS]

01:14:13   puts you one up on siracusa with his [TS]

01:14:15   obscure anime movie so exactly [TS]

01:14:18   yeah I'm happy I'm happy to have been [TS]

01:14:20   here i'm sure i will not be invited that [TS]

01:14:23   Dan Morgan thank you for being here is [TS]

01:14:26   always a distinct pleasure David lower [TS]

01:14:30   thank you for being here thank you [TS]

01:14:32   anytime [TS]

01:14:33   steve lets you don't need to fly back to [TS]

01:14:36   your girlfriend but we go away together [TS]

01:14:38   in the car [TS]

01:14:39   you are a naughty naughty man what's the [TS]

01:14:44   difference [TS]

01:14:45   and what's the difference the difference [TS]

01:14:47   and I've minutes earlier so until uh [TS]

01:14:53   next time thanks to everybody out there [TS]

01:14:55   for listening to the uncomfortable [TS]

01:14:57   we'll see you next time [TS]