Cortex 53: Worst Business Decision Ever
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welcome back gray hello oh you sound
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chipper on this lovely British morning
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is it morning I don't know what it is
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hey we're not on grace not the time
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anymore my friend no we're not on grey
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standard time which is a shame see you
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are back in the UK yeah it's the middle
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of July is it okay you left the UK at
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the beginning of June yes I arrived back
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in the UK six weeks to the day from when
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I left that's what happened is this the
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longest no it's not the longest trip
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you've taken away is it you've done
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longer than this well I was trying to
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think about it it depends a lot on what
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you mean by a trip like I have done
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there have been longer periods of
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traveling mm-hmm
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but I think it I think in the way that
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any reasonable person would think about
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what is a trip versus what is simply
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being nomadically homeless like there's
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a boundary there right and I think if
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we're constraining it to trips this this
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is the longest trip I think I have ever
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done yeah I think I can probably safely
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say that there's a couple things that
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come close but I think this is the
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longest continual thing that is still
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clearly a trip that I have ever done I
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have this coming up to actually in just
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a few weeks oh yeah so in I'm gonna be
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in the United States of America for all
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of August oh I didn't realize that yeah
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this is this is something different for
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me I have three independent events that
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I need to work that I need to do so I
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have three things I have to attend
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during August and I decided that I would
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just stay in America for the entire time
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rather than coming back and going back
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against I've done that before right way
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like you know you've got something one
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week and you've got a week break and
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then another thing and I've done that
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and it will kill you
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right like terrible's destroyed first
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yep so I've decided this time to pack up
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my bags for a month and go I'm ending it
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with a vacation
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but the first three weeks are all
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work-related activities so I was hoping
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that you could give me some kind of
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travel tips life hacks for an for an
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individual who's going to be spending a
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large period of time away from home your
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life hacks that's what you want I don't
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even know how to do laundry like how
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would you you know like there are all
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these things and like meals do I eat in
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restaurants the whole time like I don't
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really know how to handle this the first
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thing is your simple decision to just
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stay in America that's that is the
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correct decision good right that's
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that's by far and away the best thing to
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do and that that's why my previous trip
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was so long it was the exact same
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situation like I had a bunch of things
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and inconvenient times from each other
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that in like maybe I could have gone
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back to the UK but it would have been
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terrible and I would have I would have
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done something like eight transatlantic
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flights in six weeks like nope not
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happening it's a similar thing right
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like yeah for me like a bunch of
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conferences and then just some
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work-related meetings and activities
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that are better if it's in person rather
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than digging yeah yeah so I can I
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totally understand how this can end up
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happening and then this is also at least
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I find it becomes a little bit of a
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self-sustaining cycle because once you
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commit to being in a place for a while
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then you can start gathering up other
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things that are useful to do while
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you're there oh yeah like I'm spending a
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bunch of time in New York which just
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from a business perspective could be
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very valuable to me exactly there are
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things I haven't planned out yet but I
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know it's gonna be a beneficial trip
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mm-hmm yeah that's that's exactly right
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you can start making these things more
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useful then your time would be spent on
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a plane going back and forth yep and
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then dealing with jet lag and all the
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rest of this so yeah it's I think it's a
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smart move to try to bundle things this
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is this is why I like the the summers
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for me are always big blocks of travel
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is because of this exact thing like I I
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finally the flights are very costly in
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every in every meaning of that word yeah
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and so decreasing the number of flights
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and bunching as much together into one
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big block of travel is much
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more valuable to do than breaking it up
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into a bunch of little trips and she's
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interesting talking to other people that
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I know I think the default human
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response is if there is time enough to
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go back home that you should go back
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home but I really do
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urge people who travel a bunch to think
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about bunching things together into
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bigger blocks like I don't know
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I personally find it much better to do
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even if it's inconvenient for a long
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stretch I totally understand that right
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cuz I felt that way and it's why I've
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done it in the past right like if I have
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a week or eight days or something wive
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where I could be at home and I would do
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that but like this particular trip it's
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never more than like four days at a time
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mm-hmm and that's just not tenable right
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like I would be traveling for fifty
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percent of those four days so great it
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doesn't make sense it really just
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doesn't make sense I don't think anybody
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will benefit from that right like the
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reason I would go home is because I
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don't particularly want to spend three
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weeks away from Edina like it's just not
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really a thing I'm keen on doing but the
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time that I would be here I wouldn't be
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very great to be around so I you know
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it's at the end of the trip is we're
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taking a vacation together which i think
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is a good way to cap it all off right
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we'll be away for three weeks but then
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we'll be back together and going on a
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holiday which seems just I don't know it
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seems better than like Mike being a
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zombie for a day and a half before he
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gets ready to go again cuz then there is
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all these things that just more
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frustrating you know like for example me
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waking up at 4:30 in the morning to go
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back to the airport right like nobody
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wants or needs these things in their
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life so I'm I think I'm I mean I'm gonna
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see how it goes I might hate this right
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but I think that this this seems like
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the right course of action for this
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particular set of trips mm-hmm yeah I
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can I can definitely see that alright so
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you want you want life hankari and
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they've really usable choose any tiny
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takeaways in some key takeaway
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and I mean I'm just I'm just nothing
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like it's the things that matter for
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lucky we'll start with start with number
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one mmm-hmm laundry when I do this kind
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of trip laundry just becomes a big part
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of it right because you can't actually
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pack six weeks worth of clothing you you
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can't pack a month's worth of clothing
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it's just not gonna happen
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but I like to view this I like to view
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this as an advantage because once you
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assume that laundry is going to be part
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of this process you can actually pack
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less than you would for a trip that's
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like a week-long trip mm-hmm all right
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because if you think about it if you go
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if you know if you know you're going to
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be doing laundry you can probably cut
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down the number of outfits you would
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take on on a week trip I like 30 percent
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at least so I just you I just assume
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that it's that this is going to happen
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and it depends on like what exactly your
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situation is but like very very often in
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America like if depending on where you
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are there just are not convenient
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laundromats around or like it's such an
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incredible hassle and you're usually
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busy so I have yet to meet a hotel that
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won't do the laundry for you and this is
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this is one of these places where yes
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are they gonna charge you a fortune to
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do the laundry of course they are
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because because they've got you right is
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they have like a laundry monopoly in
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this in this little moment well so they
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should because nobody wants to do other
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people's laundry yeah nobody wants to do
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other people's laundry no people need to
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be paid handsomely for that task yeah
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yeah with that in town like someone's
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got to fold your socks Mike and I find
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that this is one of these things that if
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if you can mentally get on board with
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the idea that you just accept that that
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you're not getting like a deal on your
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laundry and of course if you went to a
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laundromat it would cost less but what
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you're getting is a bunch of hassle
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removed from your life yeah and a thing
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that just happens automatically tell you
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why I wouldn't want to go to a
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laundromat great
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okay tell me why I know I wouldn't know
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how to use the machine and I don't want
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to have to deal with not knowing how to
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use the machine right like I won't get
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there yeah and I like would be bumbling
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around and I'd maybe need to ask for
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help like I don't want to be in the
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situation where I have a washing machine
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that I don't know how to use I know how
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to use my washing machine but I was
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taught how to use our washing machine no
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one's gonna like it's not gonna be just
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an implicit thing I arrive at a
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laundromat and they're like mr. Hurley
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come this way let's show you the machine
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that's not what's gonna happen so I
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can't gonna stand in front of this
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washing machine and like American
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washing machines are so different right
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like you put stuff in the top that's not
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I don't even know how to do that right
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like that doesn't make any sense to me
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that gravity pulls it down that's how it
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works you hold the clothes over and you
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let go and gravity pulls them into the
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washing machine and then they just pop
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out the other and that how it works no
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there's like one come up pick them up
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out of the hole and you put them in the
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drum yeah I just I don't know man I just
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there's too many variables there so I
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I'm scared of the laundromat honestly
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okay look well I've got some bad news
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for you okay has when I say that I've
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never been at a hotel that that doesn't
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do the laundry many hotels will just
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take your laundry away and bring it back
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to you folded up in a little box which
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is like a gift from heaven when you're
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traveling like oh thank god it's a thing
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that I don't have to worry about but if
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they don't do that they will have a
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little mini laundromat in the hotel and
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so you you may you when I say doing
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laundry at a hotel you may have to
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functionally use what is a laundromat
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just in the hood but it's very easy Mike
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all you do is you go to go to the front
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desk mm-hmm you ask the nice person at
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the front desk to turn a five-dollar
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bill into a bunch of quarters and you
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my Britishness and I dropped my top hat
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nightmare yeah but you got to you got to
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make that work for you Mike you just be
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like I'm from a foreign land we don't we
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don't have laundry machines please help
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me so I should basically what you're
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saying is I should walk in there with
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like a Union Jack waistcoat yeah exactly
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that's what you need to do hip everybody
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off straight right at the beginning yeah
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that's that's that would that would work
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best for you but you won't really have
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to do that because the hotel will just
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handle it for you great and that's
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especially especially the summer for me
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mental relief it is to just have this
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one part of the problem just handled
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yeah it's like great my bags are lighter
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but my clothes will always be clean
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because I'll just every other day I'll
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hand the hotel that I'm at a bag with
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some small amount of laundry and it will
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just be returned and everything will be
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fine so that's great that's really great
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that's it okay so next two of the three
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I'm just working as normal in hotels the
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third week I'm staying
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with Stephen my co-founder and I'm gonna
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be working from his office some people
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do let me work in their offices with
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them which is just just really nice you
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know like it's just a good thing to do
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so your office surfing that's what
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you're doing mm-hmm so I'm just gonna be
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working his in his office cos he offered
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because he's kind you know you so good
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like a good thing right like you got a
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friend you need some time to spend in an
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office and he's like I'll bring a desk
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in for you we'll work together in the
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you know some people are just really
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good about that sort of stuff
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no so we're gonna do that for the third
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to be working as normal but I'm living
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in the hotel right where do I work do I
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stay in the hotel or do I go to places
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it always depends on the hotel okay but
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traveling and being at hotels is
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exploring a new hotel because I have yet
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to find a hotel that doesn't have some
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kind of nice area to work in but it's
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not always it's not always obvious where
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this area is you saying you spend time
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in the business center is that so where
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you go well okay so some places will
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have business centers right and that can
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be very nice but very often the business
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centers are terrible confined areas
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printe and one computer in a closet yeah
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so that's it's not very nice but almost
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every hotel has has some kind of area
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that's like for people having meetings
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who might be at the hotel and even
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surprisingly small hotels will have a
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little mini conference center of some
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kind and I often find that you can you
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can either just like find these areas of
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the hotel which are essentially
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abandoned and you just use them what do
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you like cuz I've been in those hotels
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where like you walk down a corridor and
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there's nothing there there's nobody
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then just look like anybody's been there
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in five years but there are these huge
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rooms like all of the San Francisco
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hotels I've stayed in I like this oh
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yeah yeah I think there was one of the
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hotels I was at this summer it's like I
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was just walking around trying to do
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this like I'm trying to find a place to
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work and it's like oh there's a gigantic
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ballroom in the basement I know it's
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just like just go down the stairs all
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the doors are open like this there's
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this whole place here it's just lit up
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but there's nobody here
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so nobody here all day maybe four not
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for ten years you know it's like you
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just don't know but it's it's it's
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surprising how many hotels
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if you look around have a space to work
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that is almost certainly better than
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whatever sad little desk you have in the
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actual hotel room okay so so I have I
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have extraordinarily rarely not been
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able to find some better space in the
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hotel and if you can't find anyplace
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I've asked
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front desk like are there like is there
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is there a meeting room somewhere that I
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can use if nobody is using it and you
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know usually if you're nice to the
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person at the front desk like oh yeah
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whatever there's some there's some space
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that nobody goes into and it's fine so
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do you not look for like cool coffee
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shops outside places to work or do you
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just tend to stay in the hotel well what
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I'm trying to the reason why I'm
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discussing the hotel here is I'm running
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under the assumption that you you might
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be in a place where it's there's nothing
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around the hotel which is useful because
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like sometimes in America particularly
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if you don't have a car you can be a
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little bit isolated depending where
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you're staying well so most of this time
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we'll all be in New York City
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okay so you'll be in New York City yeah
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all right well then then it's a
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different thing like then then you can
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try to find cool hipster places to work
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in I'll make you think that that's what
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I'm looking for and I just assume that
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you go out on the streets and your
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hipster door would point you in the
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correct location to close that I think
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like hipster hipster would have been
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better you really you nearly got it
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nearly got it I think it was perfectly
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fine but yeah like that that can totally
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that can totally work but I prefer if I
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can find a guaranteed quiet spot in the
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hotel to work I would usually rather do
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that because it's just it's just like a
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more it's like a more guaranteed space
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yeah yeah there's no expectation if you
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need him to leave because you haven't
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bought enough lattes right like you yeah
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yeah even if it's is in the back of your
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mind like what's the latte counter per
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hour here and yeah it's like I've gotten
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a lot of really good work done in in
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like weird abandoned places in a hotel
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so it's that's why it's just
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particularly on my mind and it's like a
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life hack
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right that's what that's what you're
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that's what you're looking for so when
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you're in these weird abandoned places
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are you also playing fun to sounds or
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you do not do that depends depends on
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how likely I think it is that someone's
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gonna walk by I imagine like some
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attendant walking past the closed doors
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of the ballroom just hears some some
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person muttering to themselves
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these thunder and lightning noises
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so I must be incredible yeah this is
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this is how haunted hotel rumors start I
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have one last thing one last thing I
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food now I have noticed about myself
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that if I am away from home for like a
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long period of time I start to feel a
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bit sick from eating out all the time
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yeah yeah so how do you combat this
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because like you can't I mean at least
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not in the hotels that I'm saying and I
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can't prepare myself a meal so what do
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you what do you do do you do eat out for
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every meal I'm totally with you on this
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you can get kind of travel food sick
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yeah especially in America where yeah
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I'm sorry Americans like you have such
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amazing food but it's really bad for
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your constitution yeah and it can also
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be like this food is amazing but also
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kind of plastic at the same at the same
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time grace I don't know me I didn't do
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that that's why I didn't you didn't need
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to say it like the American can say it
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and then it's fine I can say that out
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but it's even like oh like if I go into
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I hop and it's like oh I hop you can
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make me an omelet any time of day that's
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great it's a fantastic standard meal but
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after three of them it's like these
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omelets are both delicious and plasticky
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like I feel like I have some kind of
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plastic revit residue building up inside
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of my body or the food can just start to
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feel a little bit unreal and again Orion
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again in America sort of say me like
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every burger place is sort of the same
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so yeah it's like America fantastic for
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two weeks but it can if you're there
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longer it's like you need to start
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planning for this kind of stuff I don't
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have a lot to tell you about this
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because it's like it depends so much on
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what you eat but there's there's two
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things here like the first is I will
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very like on the this past summer I very
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frequently would
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just try to find a supermarket that was
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nearby and almost in a way like eat out
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at the supermarket like I'm just gonna
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go to the supermarket I'm gonna buy some
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things that I can immediately assemble
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into a meal that I will just eat instead
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of eating out at a restaurant because
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it's just sort of like I said the food
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is sort of tiring constantly eating out
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at a restaurant but what I also try to
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look for is a lot of American hotels are
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sort of family-oriented in that they
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will have like a little fridge or maybe
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a super tiny kitchen area and and that
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can be helpful so if you know you're
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gonna be in a place for a while I will
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very often try to find a hotel that
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won't just have a minibar but they'll
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have here's a little refrigerator and
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maybe just like out like a one pan
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electric stovetop but it makes a huge
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difference I think I you know look you
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know me right like the places that I've
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booked that they're too hipster to have
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a little kitchenette like it's right
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let's be honest I'm staying in Brooklyn
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you know I yeah the kind of hotel that I
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assume has it like a dog at the front
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reception desk maybe I'm not interested
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in the dog it's very possible yeah a dog
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with glasses yeah a bowtie so I may have
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shot myself in the foot on that one now
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if you already made reservations I can't
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help you
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of course I've already made reservations
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I leave in like two and a half weeks
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gray no we don't all live on the edge
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like you yeah I love I love to leave
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everything into the last possible second
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I know you did everybody who knows me is
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irritated to no end
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registers that you have purchased
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everything and you hate writing you have
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having to carry it to the hotel or
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things that you'll need on on the trip
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which are simply easier instead of
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getting them before you leave and
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packing them having them sent to where
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you're gonna go you just you need to
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contact the hotel before you do this and
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find out whatever their little system is
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squirrely system for how you're supposed
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to address the mail that they're going
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to get for you in advance but this is
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some of the clothes that I buy in like
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kind and so I had a bunch of clothes
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the hotel which were the like new
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clothes that I was going to wear in bulk
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like pack it all and travel with it to
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arriving and the stuff is here and yes
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there may be some other like equipment
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useful to have sent ahead of time but
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it's just like I just want to mention it
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think about
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but it's useful to just have in mind
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especially if you're doing a long trip
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where I feel like it's very easy to
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overwhelm yourself with packing just to
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keep this in mind as a tool you can send
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stuff to a hotel in advance and they
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will have it for you when you arrive and
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there may be things that you can do this
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that in mind this is something that I'm
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bring home this is yes yes that's a
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whole other category of things to bring
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home for somebody else from America yes
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because America is full of treasures
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like what's the name of the hotel that
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it is it is not possible to return from
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people unspecified yes I once happened
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went down to the front desk he came back
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box that's good it is a really good for
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moment though you know America they make
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good stuff there except homeless right
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of this show and relay event so I have a
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question for you mm-hmm I feel like over
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the time that I've known you over the
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few years have been working together
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you've been very influential on me in a
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few different areas you know like making
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me think about different projects to
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start different ways of thinking about
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work I just want to see if it is
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possible that I influenced you in any
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to start vlogging no I'm sorry Mike you
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should give me one you know just throw
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me a bone you know look just say yes I
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mean I can it like we have to be we have
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to be truthful with the listener doing
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and it's like I can like I can hear it I
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can hear it in your mic voice and I feel
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like I would I would love to give this
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gift to you but if I give this gift to
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you then like I have to i'd have to like
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lie about all of the other questions you
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can ask me about vlogging and so we have
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to we have to go into this truthfully
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what you say there's absolutely zero
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influence from our discussions about
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vlogging which pushed you into creating
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a vlog that's literally zero
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so I'm like if you go but if you go back
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mm-hmm and you look at some of those
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early videos those early videos are
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there because they are discards from
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vlogs that I tried to make right from
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the start of the channel like or their
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test footage for things that I was
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trying out mm-hmm
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so that vlog that I put up was probably
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the fifth or sixth serious run that I
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had done towards vlogging of some kind
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in the past many years so I'm sorry Mike
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well moving swiftly on then why did you
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do this I really I can't understand why
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you did this like there are so many
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things that you just put out a video
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right like a couple of days before it
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was a pretty big video that you've been
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working and I know for quite a while
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which was very good cause seven ways to
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maximize misery that I don't want to
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talk about because I'll have to think
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about that video again and it just makes
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me sad right if I think about me and
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that video I don't want to talk about
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that one so okay we just move swiftly on
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swiftly along really swiftly almost
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breakneck speed forget that videos made
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a lot of people uncomfortable yes yes
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perfect think about it for a while and
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now I don't want to be here anymore like
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well and then you're like oh surprise
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here is a vlog that I made which is 16
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piece of critique for you is that your
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your time lapse was too long that is
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that is my critique for you okay if I
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know you didn't ask for it but that
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would that would be it I'm interested in
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your input so I'm just very I'm really I
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was really struggling at the time to try
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and work out why you did this mmm and I
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still don't think I have a good a good
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idea for do you have any guesses you
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just like to surprise people I don't
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just about 60% of your overall work is
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just like a real long con
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on someone's right there is like you
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working towards and like when we get
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there you know it's like a prestige type
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thing wow that would be a lot of my work
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con for this moment like surprise I'm
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actually come flocking so it's just
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gonna be vlogs from now on yeah yeah oh
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yeah someone upset you like 15 years ago
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payback like and eventually you'll get
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there mmm-hmm that's the interesting
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perspective no no Michael although
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that that video when I did you know a
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reddit had a top-voted comment or he's
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like oh let me just I know what kind of
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videos gray makes he makes two kinds of
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videos and he like wrote this long
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grade does and we can expect all of his
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videos look like this and I was like
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tee-hee-hee inside I was like you don't
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know it's coming tomorrow buddy and it
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was great because a lot of people
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remember that comment the you know when
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the vlog went out there like hey didn't
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this guy have a top voted comment about
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you know it's exactly what's going to
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expectation is that you should not have
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expectations as you put it once Mike and
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don't ask me because they're worried
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people just know you won't respond
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respond eventually I get back to text
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the time that is really good yes keep
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do you have like a good reason for why
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want to like what what was it that one
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like made you make the video and to put
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really is an out of character move like
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it like to be serious like it is a it is
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out of character to me I mean okay let's
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compare it to every other video on the
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different it's it's different in a posh
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because people learn things from your
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videos but like the lesson that you were
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teaching in the vlog people shouldn't
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learn ramune it's a perfect that's a
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great that when you travel that you
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that was very / - are you seriously
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gonna say that that's not a great like I
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think that genius I think everybody it
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is a good idea for if you are in this
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very specific set of circumstances that
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you were in and very rarely when people
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travel are they in those exact set of
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circumstances I think I think more
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people could get more utility out of
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this than then you might be expecting
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Mike alright I think this is great I
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think this is a fantastic idea haven't
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you done it since well I've only done
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one actually wait a second okay so what
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to do the mental calculation because in
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my mind publishing the vlog when I did
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puts the actual trip in my head in the
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wrong timeline right I think like oh
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that trip happened much more recently
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than it actually did because it happened
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go mm-hmm but so the answer is yes I
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to try to maintain grey master time I
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America that it would make sense to do
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this but I feel like there are many
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trips to America in which this makes
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total sense that this is this is the
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best idea ever was it under very
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specific circumstances right like if you
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of time what you don't need to be a
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shorter act with other humans in regular
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settings this is a very abnormal trip to
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take I don't know it seems like a lot of
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my trips are like this literally
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everybody travels like again like
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completely centered around you and your
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cuca see is this a human okay but it's a
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great idea and I'm glad we can both
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agree on that so I still don't have a
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good answer for why you did this well I
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stuff for vlogs and you're seeing like
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kind of thought that there was some
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had it in my mind that doing something
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like a vlog and talking about stuff like
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there was there was some kind of space
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could I could never quite figure out
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what that was and so there's a there's
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just a bunch of like aborted attempts
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buy the Osmo because you recommended it
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like I was shooting some test footage
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for something and
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that was an attempt I spot that I
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figured something else going on when you
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bought that thing right because why else
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would you buy a gimbal exactly what what
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project is this for it's it's it has a
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very limited number of uses I think
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that's a good example of like acquiring
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tools over time each time I tried to
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make a run at vlogging it didn't work
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for a bunch of different reasons but
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this has been one of these things that
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forever and this is one of these
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examples where you know when I make
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reference to side projects this is the
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kind of this is one of those kinds of
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things like I've been tinkering on
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something like this in in the background
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and I think said this is maybe the fifth
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or sixth go at it and I feel like each
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time I made a go at it they didn't work
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at all but I kind of figured out what
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part of a thing worked like I'll give a
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perfect example there is a monument in
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London which is like a it's a monument
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to animals in war it's sort of on the
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made an attempt of shooting a thing
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talking about that Monument so I was
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trying to try to put together like oh
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here's the thing that I can talk about
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something but in sort of a more casual
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way and I'll upload it to uploaded to
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the channel and I shot a bunch of stuff
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and recorded it and put it together and
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when I was finished with this like oh
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all I've done is I've made it like a
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terrible version of the vlogbrothers
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thoughts from places I was like this is
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it was like it's so clear when I cut it
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together like oh this is what this thing
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was it was like I'm not gonna upload
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this because I don't I don't think it's
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very good and it's not just very good
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it's also like a worse version of
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something else but shooting that and
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getting practice for talking while I'm
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shooting a thing like that it helped
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build towards something else so I did
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this a bunch of times someone actually
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spotted in the vlog because people who
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are always amazed at what people are
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able to spot in in videos and in vlogs
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but somebody spotted that in my Final
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that's called the Cardiff log and it's
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like yes that was another abort attempt
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at like a thing that I tried to do but
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they were like ooh cart cart if vlog
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confirmed or Anna's like oh no that's
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just a dead project that I haven't moved
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but it's like I'm one of the screenshots
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you can see it there but somebody was
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really excited about a car to flog sorry
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guy it's not happening it wasn't very
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probably nothing caught if let's be
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honest probably so like I guess the the
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most direct answer to your question is
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like why did this thing happen it's
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partly that has just been on my mind for
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a long time not a high priority project
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by any means but something I've been
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thinking about and then it was also just
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the result of a bunch of things coming
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together that felt like oh I've made
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enough goes at this that I've learned
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how to do a few things and I happen to
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be doing a trip that I think is
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interesting to other people in a
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particular way and like I can look at
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that vlog and very clearly see things
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from older vlogs that like I changed or
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adapted like last year at VidCon I was
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trying to shoot a bunch of stuff for I
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felt like oh I'll do a vlog about going
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to VidCon like this will be kind of
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interesting
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no-one's done one of those before yeah
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well this is it like I thought I had an
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idea about how to do it and it's like oh
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this and and when I was there it was so
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clear like this is terrible like this is
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a terrible idea but there were a couple
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something and I'll just I'll put that in
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is this is another one of these examples
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where it kind of I think it kind of
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looks to people like it like it's a
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thing that comes out of nowhere but it's
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actually like everything it's grown out
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of other stuff okay I think it's for you
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specifically vlogging is weird why well
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because you don't show yourself right
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like that is a thing that you have made
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a concerted effort over the years I'm
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working right that you're you're quite a
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private person and you never show your
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face like I don't show my safe face in
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don't show your face is why when people
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see Seagrave vlog they're surprised by
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that because those two things are pretty
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prevalent in vlogging now again look of
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you did you did a good job of how you
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did pieces of camera you can see why
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like it is surprising for you to vlog
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because you don't like to talk about
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your private life and you don't like to
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show your face and that's kind of like a
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big part of what the vlogs that people
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see that and this is where from the
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behind the scenes stuff like one of the
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rules that I had for myself about these
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various projects is how to put this but
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like let's say like you know if you know
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a bunch of people who are vloggers there
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are ways that you can see that the vlog
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is their whole life I had just had it in
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mind for this Las Vegas one in
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particular that I was only gonna do this
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if I could do it in a way that doesn't
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interfere with any of the other stuff
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that I'm there for or doesn't interfere
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with my life in any way I am very very
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conscious of this myself mm-hmm whenever
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I take blog footage of a trip like a
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conference I only take what I need right
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this because but just like well yeah but
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I just choose not to take video footage
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intend for the vlog to be all that I do
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when I'm yeah I'm traveling and it's not
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about this like being the moment type
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of like don't have don't take pictures
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understand to a point but that's not
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yeah what I'm doing that's not you Ariza
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yeah I have a life that is not the vlog
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the vlog is not that important to me
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that it needs to become my life
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so exactly I will just take the footage
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that I want and need and not film
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everything because I get that perfect
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moment right I actually I actually do
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feel very strongly kind of
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presence focus and that that was
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something in particular that when I
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mentioned like trying to film a vlog at
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hyper aware of doing wrong was a kind of
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thinking about everything in terms of
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film ability and just realizing like wow
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this makes me really unhappy immediately
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like I just I hate having this loop run
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in my mind which should have been
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obvious because it's like there's plenty
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of things I do in my life that are to
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increase I kind of now focus that's like
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this is one of the reasons why I took
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Twitter off of my phone is because I
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recognized having Twitter on my phone
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means there's a constant demon process
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running in the back of my brain which
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says is there anything you could tweet
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right now and it's like something like
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that sort of pulls you out of just being
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somewhere so I feel like I'm I am very
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sensitive to that and like that's
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something I learned from trying to film
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a vlog like in a place where there are
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people and I'm doing stuff pace is like
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oh okay yeah I'm not I'm used to do this
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because it makes my life worse
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makes my life dramatically worse I found
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myself just naturally doing this over
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the last couple of years as my life has
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changed you know in that like the people
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that I'm closest to I see F handful of
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times a year in most cases yeah like
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most of my closest friends do not live
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in the same country as me and so when I
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am on these trips where we're all
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together I just don't want to do
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anything else that's contained within
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the little box in my pocket right like
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I've just become naturally quite good at
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it well like without trying because it's
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important to me so you know I I haven't
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had to force myself I can see really see
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why people do like I can totally see why
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like people make the effort to force
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themselves but when I'm on these sort of
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trips okay it's just not something that
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I want to be doing or dealing with and
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honestly like the Apple watch has been a
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big help for me with that because I
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don't need to get my phone out of my
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pocket because I'm confident that
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everything that I need to know we pushed
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on my wrist oh yeah and and like you
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think that I'm aware of in conferences
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I sort of have to open up my phone
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more I think of it as putting the phone
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in conference mode and like like one of
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the reasons is there's a bunch of people
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like Twitter is a conferencing
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networking kind of tool and so when I'm
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at a conference I'm aware like oh
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there's many people I follow who don't
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have my iMessage or phone details but
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who might direct message me on Twitter
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yeah I'll meet up with em and so just
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it's a funny thing like a could because
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I've the feeling that I had was when I'm
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at conferences I have to have more
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notifications on and my phone has to be
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more opened up than it would normally be
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and then adding on top of that doing
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something like and now I'm constantly
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thinking about what I'm gonna film for
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the vlog it's like it's too much like I
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just it makes like I don't like having
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the phone even this open in the first
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place and then adding one more thing on
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top of that was just like oh I hate this
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so that's but that's partly why like
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when I was thinking about that Las Vegas
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trip it was a thing that was kinda like
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a test for myself is is there a way I
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can do this where I feel like there I'm
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never having a moment
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like it doesn't intrude in my mind and
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it doesn't intrude on the people around
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me in any way that I'm doing a vlog and
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so like that was kind of one of the
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tests for me as I think I know a way I
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can do this but I have to actually try
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it to see if it works and obviously like
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it did work I wouldn't I wouldn't have
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done it or I would have stopped filming
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if I felt like oh this is this is
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impinging on my life so it was this is
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what I mean like that vlog kind of just
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ticks a bunch of boxes in my head that I
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feel like I had an idea for how a format
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could work for me and I had an idea
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about how to like film appropriately
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without getting in the way of my own
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life yeah and yeah the other thing is
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like why have I been messing around with
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vlogs in the background is if people go
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back and listen to a bunch of maybe like
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the last five or so episodes of cortex
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there are times in there where we're
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having conversations about like oh you
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need to have other creative outlets like
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when you're talking about your vlog as
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like an additional creative outlet
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and I think if someone goes back and
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listen to those conversations I think
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it'll be much more obvious now that's
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like oh I was clearly coming close to
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the end of finishing this vlog that went
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up because that that's another benefit
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of it is it is useful to make different
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things on occasion like if you work in a
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creative field this is a this is a
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beneficial thing intrinsically right
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even even if it's not going to
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necessarily be like a like an incredibly
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popular or profitable thing doing
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something different creatively can be
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beneficial in all other kinds of ways so
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that's why I feel like it ticked all of
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these boxes for me in it so it so to me
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it makes perfect sense to make this vlog
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can we take a quick sidebar on that sure
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so I've been feeling this again I'm in
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that mode right now and I thought that
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making youtube videos would fill the
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creative gap in my life that I was
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looking to fill it has to a point and I
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feel like I'm I know where I'm going
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with the YouTube videos now like I'm
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trying to make like one a month and it's
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about something that I really want to
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make a video about so I'm not like
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forcing the topic so which keeps it good
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for me because they because I make a
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video when I have something I want to do
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and if I don't have something in a month
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I'm not beating myself up about the fact
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I haven't done one yet that is super
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smart that is a super smart way to think
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about it it is purely just an outlet a
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different thing trying to learn some new
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skills that's why I'm doing this
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but it hasn't filled the creative hole
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that I felt hmm and I think I've gotten
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closer to working out what it might be
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but I don't know how to get there and
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basically I think I want to do something
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that isn't based in reality okay
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everything that I do is focused on real
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things right and I think I want to do
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something that is fiction based who
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that's the move that I'm going towards
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so that's very interesting that's very
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interesting I don't really have any idea
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yet but just looking at my own tastes
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for things that I'm enjoying I feel like
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you know and just thinking about me as a
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person right like I was one of these
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kids that used to write stories and like
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did when I was a teenager right like you
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know I I have many beginnings of novels
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right like you know I'm up with one of
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those sorts of kids right that I would
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write stories and I think that that is
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where I'm leaning right now but like I
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don't have I don't really have anything
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for it's like I just wanted to mention
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it because it is a thing that I'm
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feeling right now and I think and I hope
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could become law or running trend for a
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bit of me trying to work out what that
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might be but like that is where I've
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gotten to with my kind of like I feel
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like I have to do something new and
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different and and that's where I'm
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leaning towards right now that's very
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interesting
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not that I ever expect to fill that by
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the way yeah no I don't I'm not like oh
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this is the announcement that in two
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years like the book is going to be out
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right like we're not that's not the
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expectation well and though I mean just
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it like if I do something that I think
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that it will be the magic bullet and I
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want through and I will feel creatively
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satisfied right right just retire yeah
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exactly you'll be sitting upon a lotus
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throne and like oh yes I am now I've
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reached enlightenment yeah no I don't
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think that's the expectation like with
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all these things I think it's good to be
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aware of that and to just have it in the
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back of your mind and you can just turn
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on it for a while like it's it's it's
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the exact same thing with me for this
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vlog it's like I'm aware that there's a
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thing here it's a background process
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yeah and it's like I'm just gonna turn
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on this and maybe it's going to take
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five years before something pops out but
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it's like this is just running in the
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background as a thing and it and I think
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in your position it's also it's very
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helpful to be aware of the specific
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nature right to be aware like oh the
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vlog is not exactly hitting what you
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want on this and there's something else
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and you're able to put words to
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precisely what it is like that's very
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helpful I have an Apple note where I add
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random things to every now and then
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right leg notes that's kind of where
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that project is in its life and it's
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very like it is as likely right now that
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nothing will ever come of it but it's
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where I am kind of pushing towards yeah
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and that like for anybody who has
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creative projects on the back of their
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minds like the thing that you've just
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mentioned there that process of
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collecting I think is super important
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even if you don't specifically do
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anything with the items that you have
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collected but this is this is where I
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feel like in many ways I'm almost a kind
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of digital hoarder because it like a for
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any of these like background processes
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like I'm very aggressive about
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collecting thoughts and notes and links
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and second sections of other things like
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anything at all and just putting it in a
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bin that is the bin related to whatever
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this project might be and I think that's
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that's a great way to make it more
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active in your mind as opposed to like
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oh someday I'll write a screenplay
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because I well actually just have just
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have a note called screenplay and just
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put whatever in there like put put lines
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you are in the business of making videos
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that go viral like that is whether you
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perspective did you achieve the goals
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that you intended when you made this
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video right like it is not a 1.7 million
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respectable number a number I would be
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very happy to achieve but like in the
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trend of your videos it's not so much
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performance of the log
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well from a business perspective this is
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maybe one of the worst business
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towards without saying right but yeah
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time and money investment for this one
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must be a show right yeah III I really
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think this might be literally the worst
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thing I've ever done in terms of a pure
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ROI calculation but as we have
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people have an expectation of you which
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right yeah it isn't but this one is
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especially bad it's especially bad I
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mean I mean for God's like if you want
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before this one came up like let's not
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creeper since yeah yeah equipment like
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all of that kind of stuff and then it's
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like I didn't put this video up on
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sponsor at the end so it's just like
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this is this has got to be by far and
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away the worst the worst thing in terms
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of return on investment at all however I
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feel super happy about bloating this is
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this video I was a little uncertain
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about how it was going to be received
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like it and I did a very different thing
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uploading this video that I normally do
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when I upload videos which is that I
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really kills your battery but so I get
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this is not this is not going to happen
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parents for the
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with the results like I had mentally
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calculated I thought if I get 250,000
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actual video itself
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successful in some ways this may be the
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most successful video I've ever had in
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relation to my feeling about uploading
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it right I see because it's like when
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you upload a thing that's different I'm
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aware that you know what people don't
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of change right change for the better no
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good alright they don't like it and so I
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video where people are just reflexively
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hitting the downvote button immediately
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it's 50% dislikes you know and then and
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feeds itself so I expected a bunch of
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change and it was different and I also
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walking into this assuming that since
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this video was probably going to have a
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bunch of people hitting it realizing
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it's something it's different and
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turning it off immediately that this
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might get recommended to very very few
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subscribers that the algorithm would
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clock this right away as a video that
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just doesn't do well because everybody
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thrilled and then and on top of that
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that overall the the commentary was
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probably not recommending it to the less
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intense members of the audience yeah
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like that's my guess is that there's
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sort of a self selection bias there but
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happy with that
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that the people who wouldn't have liked
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it didn't get recommended it and the
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people who did like it did yes yeah
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exactly like to thumbs-up algorithmics
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algorithm yeah that's exactly what
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even though it was by far and away my
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worst business decision ever so you're
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interesting and then like
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like oh this is actually not interesting
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anything about someone that I need to
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buy an iPad which iPad should I buy the
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yeah there's no zero question it's so
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like dent than the one attempt that came
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long way like this the screen feels
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the the resolution right like it's hard
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to lose the two full sized apps next to
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each other that you get from the big one
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strong case to me for me to recommend
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this screen so I'll be very happy to get
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great machine and if I have to do
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true tone on this screen that sighs
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computer I look forward to it although
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you forget that I am the only person in
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the world who despises true tone it
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hate it I don't understand how that's
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that the 120 Hertz makes them feel
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nauseous so you know the people's brains
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the new iPad was I tested out that
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accessibility setting where it can turn
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color correct back the way computer
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the color corrected screen it really
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know like it was it was breaking me a
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creep that if you put the beta on one
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device it slowly creeps to the other
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devices but but this one has the
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strongest beta creep if you are living
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the multi pad lifestyle that if you put
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if you're gonna put on one iPad don't
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kid yourself it has to go on all of them
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like there's no there's no vertical
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memory is just too different it's so
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different you cannot possibly be running
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two iPads one with iOS ten and one with
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iOS 11 like it will destroy your brain
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so yeah you have to put it on you have
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to put on everything if you're gonna if
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you're gonna play the dangerous beta
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game what is your overall thought about
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iOS 11 on the iPad I mean we can get
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into some specifics if you want to but
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overall how do you feel about this
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version of the operating system on the
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device that you use are you happy for
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the change are you unhappy like what is
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your overall feeling I mean yeah overall
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I'd have to give it a thumbs-up I know
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like I'm I feel pretty good about it
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there are things obviously that I would
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like to change there's something that I
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particularly I've got a I've got a sales
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for Apple later on something I think
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they should add good always goes well
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yeah just right on that yeah I got
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negative break the streak but no overall
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I have to give it a have to give it a
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thumbs up there's a there's a lot to
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like about it there's a lot of
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additional power that's coming with it
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there's a lot of nice features there's a
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lot of stuff we haven't even got yet
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right like that's one thing to really
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consider you know a full power of
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drag-and-drop and the files app we won't
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realize until until September
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yeah so I've got to say that my overall
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impression is is a thumbs up and I
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presume that you feel the same way oh
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I'm incredibly enthused about this this
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really is the version of iOS that I have
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wanted for my iPad for nearly three
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years like this is exactly what I want
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it is it has its foibles it's not
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perfect but I wasn't expecting that
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personally you know the biggest
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criticism is that it is more complicated
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but I don't really understand why that
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should be a problem for professional
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users because that's who this is aim for
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professional operating systems are
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complicated and all we need to do in my
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opinion is just learn the way to use it
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in the same way that we learned the to
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use the weird app picker yeah well
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there's and also I'll for something else
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in there because I think I mentioned a
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couple of shows ago that I moved my my
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very non-technical aunt over to an iPad
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Pro Cup when it first came out and she
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was thrilled with that device and I was
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thinking about her as I was using the
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beta just thinking like oh here we go
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here it's gonna be a software update and
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I actually think they've done a really
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good job with while they have added a
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ton of stuff I just kept thinking from
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my aunt's perspective actually very
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little will change you wouldn't even
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know yeah like she'll never know that a
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whole bunch of this stuff is here and
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importantly the thing that she does
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which is double tap the home button to
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change apps I the only thing that's
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happened there is she'll just be able to
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see more apps on the screen at once
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because it's just in a grid now instead
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of in a big sheet with more visual
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information to what you're actually
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gonna be picking so I have to I have to
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give them I have to give Apple credit
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because I do think the iPad is a product
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where they they have this problem where
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there are there are going to be a
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disproportionate number of very non tech
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savvy users and also just like users who
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are young children like you know parents
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giving their kids an iPad and while they
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have added a whole bunch of stuff for
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the more professional end of the
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spectrum they have they have
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successfully in my view rate retained a
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lot of the simplicity of when you just
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press the home button twice like you've
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always done it's still the same it just
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looks a little bit different but you you
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know you might not even notice so I have
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to give them real credit for that
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because I think it's it is more complex
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for the vast majority of users it won't
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matter and it won't affect them in any
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way so how do you feel then like in
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using this from a more kind of like
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going through all the different changes
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you know how do you feel about the dock
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and multitasking and all of the changes
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that have come with it how do you feel
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about kind of the real rethink I think
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the Apple have gone through for how we
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should be using our apps on our iPads so
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again overall big thumbs up I like a lot
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of the stuff that they have done I love
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the ability to now have the smaller app
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on the opposite side it's nice to be
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able to have a way to sort of use three
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apps at once where you can have two on
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split screen and pull another one out
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from a little drawer like that's that's
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very nice
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I think the dock is actually a really
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great improvement I think it's super
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intuitive and I think it's it's a great
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move that they have made the same
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gesture to pull up the dock also be a
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gesture to get to control center and to
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slide into the app switching view like I
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think that's a very natural gesture that
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has a lot of power so that I think all
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of that stuff is great if we if we get
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to the section of things that I'm
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concerned about though I will say though
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there's there's one main concern and one
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main request is is how I'll phrase my
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thoughts on on iOS 11 and my main
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concern is how they have implemented the
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idea that apps paired together I was
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thinking about this earlier today and as
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far as I know the first person I ever
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heard mentioned this idea of pairing
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apps together was Jason Snell probably
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on upgrade talking to you I remember
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hearing Jason a long time ago talk about
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the idea of buddy apps that he wish he
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wishes he could specify that two apps
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should be buddies that this would be a
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good way to handle some stuff on the
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and I'm ever hearing him talk about that
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felt like yeah yeah that's a great idea
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but what I kind of feel has happened is
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it's like Apple is a genie who heard
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that wish and you know that the genies
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they always grant your wish but in a way
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that you wish they hadn't they granted
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it credibly literally yeah and and so I
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feel like the Apple genie granted the
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wish and said all apps are buddies but
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every app will have buddies all of them
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and it's a bit like no I don't think
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that's what Jason was asking for I don't
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think that's what anybody was asking for
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so there's this this really really
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fundamental assumption in the like I
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don't know you know what to call it but
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in like the metaphor of how apps are
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arranged or that like the metaphor of
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how you're moving through this iOS space
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and this really fundamental assumption
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is that there are stable pairs of apps
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that will just always go together and in
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in my several weeks of using iOS I I
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have just found that to be a totally
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invalid assumption that in in my own
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workflow in the way that I use apps
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there aren't there's no pair that has
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become a stable pair in this in this
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arrangement it's like everything is
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constructed on the fly as a pair or I
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want to switch between a few different
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things and so the this ground level
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assumption that an app exists as a pair
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with one and only one other app is
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concerning to me because it just it
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seems like it's such an like it just
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built that way like oh of course this is
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a stable arrangement for iPad users and
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maybe I'm an outlier here but I just
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don't find that to be the case and I'm
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kind of I'm very curious to know in your
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time using it have you found
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there are stable app pairs that you just
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leave alone that you don't break apart
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and and you switch back to no but I
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don't think of it the same way that you
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are okay tell me how you're thinking
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about it I consider it as a state saving
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thing so and I also I don't believe that
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even a poor considering this from
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perspective of like you have these two
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apps that will always remain locked
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together I think it's just really you I
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have been using these applications side
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by side so when I switch out to
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something else
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and come back they should remain until I
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break it well like that that's kind of
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my mother way that I've been thinking
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about this is like these applications
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they are paired they are buddies until I
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break the pairing and if I come back to
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an application later on and it's in it's
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pair it doesn't bother me I just close
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the other application which is very
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simple to do just by dragging a little
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divider or I bring in a new app to pair
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with that application you know I also
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have wanted the past thing for a while
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in the idea that like I could hit an
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icon and it would launch two apps at the
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same time right the pairing that we have
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isn't that but I'm also perfectly fine
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with it it's I've had to change some of
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my workflows right like I got really
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used to command tab switching out one
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application which it doesn't do anymore
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it kind of just switches the entire
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thing it will move you to another space
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or another pair or another full app
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but I've just changed my workflow and
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the fact that I can have three apps on
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screen at the same time makes it work
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perfectly fine in most instances so you
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know it's like it's just different but
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it's not different in a way that I've
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not been able to become accustomed to
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and the the pairing of applications is
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fine for me like honestly I don't think
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I want to be able to pair Google Docs
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with six different other apps like I
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want honestly just to have the
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flexibility to move them around at my
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will the idea of having these multiple
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instances pairings I think honestly
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would get really messy really fast and
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quite quickly there will be certain
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applications that would have a pairing
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instance with almost every other app
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that I use
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don't think we'll work out to be
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something I can keep track of in my head
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yeah I wouldn't be asking for that
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either I think that's that's another
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like way the genie could grant the wish
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which is like that would anybody like oh
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I don't I don't want to have notes
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paired with every single other app on my
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iPad right like because it's like that's
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what would obviously happen over time so
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yeah I'm not asking I'm not asking for
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the reason the reason why I say it feels
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like there's an expectation that they're
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stable is connected to the the thing
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that I would sort of request here is
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add another app to be the thing on the
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the iPad like she's she's very good and
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it was just interesting to see that she
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immediately got it are they like yes
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because they've done it in his visual
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way like you pull up the dock and you
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you take the icon that you want and you
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put it where you want and you let go
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it's like great my favorite thing is how
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it fades out the area that it's gonna go
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to yeah it squeezes in the entire screen
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if you're going to the edge yeah it
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fades out the previous app when you
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hover over I think that's all done so
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beautifully well yeah they've done a
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great job of making it visually clear
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what are you doing right and into a user
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who is now at the level where they will
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discover or find out or want to use the
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multitasking again great I think that's
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a much better solution for most people
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than the old version of swipe in from
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the side and then swipe down from the
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top it's just like no look look at the
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thing you want to do and just do the
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most sensible thing if they were
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physical objects right that's that's
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what you're doing so I think that's very
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good but the thing the thing for me that
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that I am constantly breaking apart and
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reassembling these pairs and when you do
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that it's a lot of steps actually to do
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and I find the process clunky so there's
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there's no wait to do it quickly and
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that's why to me I have this feeling
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like these things they're buddies and
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they're not expecting you to be very
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rapidly say having mail on one side and
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three or four other little apps that
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you're working with on the other side
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like it's it's clearly not designed with
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that idea in mind that there's like one
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main thing that you're using and you
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want to keep that on screen and there's
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other things on the side that you want
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to keep swapping in because I find it
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clunky and part of the reason is because
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there is this state change between if
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you're using the external keyboard you
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have your hands on the keyboard and then
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you have to reach on the screen and then
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it's hands back on the keyboard it's not
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quick to do and and that's why I'm like
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I'm just a little bit concerned about
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this idea that there are these this
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state saving this because I feel like
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I'm constantly undoing that like I'm
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undoing the previous state things we're
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in just constantly and it's a bunch of
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steps like it's you know the fastest way
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to do it if there's not an app that's
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already on your dock is actually a bunch
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of steps like it's command space to
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bring up spotlight you start typing in
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the words to try to find the actual app
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you then put your finger on the results
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but you have to wait a second for it to
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pop so this is now we've introduced a
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time delay that's part of the long tap
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which which brings it under your finger
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as opposed to just opening that app
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straight away and then on on that's on
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the spotlight screen you drag it to
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where you want it to go but again you
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have to wait to watch the background pop
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either in the way you want it to go in
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or show that it's going to hover you
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know you can let go and then you have to
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dismiss spotlight it's like it's sort of
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seven taps and hands on and off the
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keyboard and to peer you
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of waiting to swap out an app and I just
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I think that is force for it for an
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action that may be performed a hundred
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times a day I think it's far too long
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like I think it's too many steps and
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while dragging from the dock and placing
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is is great for I guess what we call
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like the the low end pros I don't think
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it's a good solution for someone who is
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replacing their laptop with an iPad I
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think it's just too many steps to do a
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thing that you're gonna want to do a
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whole bunch of times I hear your
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complaint do you feel my pain like yeah
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but I don't agree with the idea of
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changing it I think trying to implement
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a way to do this with like an app
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changing over or keyboard shortcuts
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being able to change the stuff would add
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an additional layer of complexity which
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are stronger than the one we currently
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have like how do you define where the
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app goes because I would be very
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confident in the fact that now you can
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move things where you want to put them
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you would want to be able to define
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where the app is gonna be and trying to
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do all of that from the keyboard over
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time would become quite complex right
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like if I can swap my apps left and
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right hitting command tab changing one
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of them might not necessarily change the
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one that I wanted to change so then I
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have to perform some of our action to
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make sure that it's going to be in the
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place that I want that's all going to be
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tricky and I understand the idea of like
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you need to bring up spotlight and hold
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and drag but I think it it's more
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honestly as a more elegant solution than
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anything else that I've tried before to
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attempt to do what this is trying to do
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yeah elegant yes because it's all visual
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like I will totally grant that but quick
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it is not so I've been thinking about
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this a whole bunch because here's here's
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one thing it's like okay we're in beta
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season now and I Halfin think people
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people sometimes think like there's
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gonna be major changes in betas but if
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my experience Apple's just refining
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stuff yeah especially at the point that
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we are right now yeah it's very unlike
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clear they're gonna make any significant
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change yeah I don't think there's and
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and the thing is with all of the betas
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there have very rarely been actual
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significant changes like they're looking
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for bugs you know they might adjust some
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minor things like they changed some of
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the behavior with their bizarrely
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confusing notification screen it's like
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but it's very minor stuff so I've been
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thinking about this a lot about what is
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a suggestion that I could make that I
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think would solve the problem that is
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also within the universe of possibility
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of the kind of thing Apple might add
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into an actual beta so here because it's
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like I'm not asking for a big rewrite of
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this thing again I think this whole
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multitasking paradigm is overall a great
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solution that's hitting a lot of
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different people on a lot of different
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levels which is very hard to do so I'm
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not I'm not coming along and saying like
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oh you should totally abolish this
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foundational analogy of state saving or
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buddies right like I'm not even remotely
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suggesting that because I don't even
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think that would necessarily be a good
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idea here was just my my only thought
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for what I've been thinking of is like a
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search and swap right because it's like
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we have drag and drop this criticism
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swap for professionals so here's my
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proposal which has the minimum number of
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changes that still achieve the goal of
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how do you get an application that is
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not on your dock on screen as fast as
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possible just for professionals who
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would look for this thing not expected
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to be used by normal users my suggestion
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is when you pull up spotlight and you
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search for an app and you have that app
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selected with the little highlight bar
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that you can pull down I think at this
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very moment all I would ask for is a
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keyboard shortcut command left arrow
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puts that highlighted app on the left
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side of the screen command right arrow
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puts that app on the right side of the
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screen command up puts it in the
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floating position on the screen that's
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what I think is the minimum way to do
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this successfully in a way that is
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actually achievable in the current
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a state that would be pretty perfect
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like I would be really happy with that
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yeah it allows you to swap out either
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understandable keyboard command and you
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don't have to take your hands off the
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keyboard to put an app anywhere on the
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screen so that's that's my pitch to
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search and swap I think a keyboard
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command in the spotlight interface that
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already exists to just move the app to
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the left the right or the top of the
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screen I think that that would be like a
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perfect search and swap that is
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implementable in a beta period with the
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minimum amount of having to rewrite
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anything I fully endorsed this message
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thank you this is really good this is
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really good I thought you were gonna
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push back on this one no no because this
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is super low friction it's not changing
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anything it's keeping well I I think is
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actually a really good system in place
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yeah but it's just adding just one
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little extra thing that most people
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would never even notice like for example
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you know the way that you did the
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drag-and-drop how spotlight that's
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already a super Pro move oh my god I
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would never know that had existed if TG
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hadn't told me about it yeah it's a it's
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great it works perfectly it's a good pro
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move like I like that but the idea to be
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able to just simply do it with these
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these like three sets of keyboard
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commands that I came to myself as you
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started describing it right like there
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was so obvious what they would be right
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like left right and I didn't think about
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but I was thinking of left right mm-hmm
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date I've really really think that this
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would be good and wouldn't break
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anything we keep everything just as it
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is I'm trying to think of like what what
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could reasonably occur and I think that
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would remove almost all of the feeling
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of clunkiness constantly switching over
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apps on on one side of the screen or the
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other side of the screen it's like one
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question for you gray yep
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follow Reiter I have filed many radars
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good man yeah I think that that's that's
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I have filed radars on behalf of other
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people who are not running via OS beta
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because I feel like oh if that's a thing
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that you
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like put it in but I I have to say most
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of the radars that I file are not
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they're not things that I necessarily
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realistically expect Apple to do like
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they're things that I would hope for but
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I would not be expecting for anybody
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that doesn't know radar is the name of
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an apples bug reporting system yeah but
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this is perhaps the only thing I can
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think of that is it change I could if
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not realistically I think I could
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optimistically hope Apple might actually
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yes Allah after the show is over I will
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officially then go file a radar with
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this suggestion I like it a lot I think
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yes I think it would really help and it
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wouldn't be to breaking though
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everything that they've done so thumbs
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up from me unfortunately I have
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absolutely no way of helping you are you
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the chief radar funnily enough now can't
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help you but I can endorse it for
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anything that that means
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