Roderick on the Line

Ep. 254: "One of My Favorite Actresses"


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00:00:05   hello hi John hi Marilyn how's it going [TS]

00:00:11   super good yeah me too [TS]

00:00:14   oh good yeah pretty good good news you [TS]

00:00:20   know it's nice to just have a normal day [TS]

00:00:23   yeah yeah yeah yeah I slept pretty well [TS]

00:00:29   Sunday night is usually my best night of [TS]

00:00:31   sleep yeah I mean when I say I'm doing [TS]

00:00:35   pretty good it's not today's not a [TS]

00:00:36   normal day and I just I guess I slept [TS]

00:00:39   sort of well no no well I mean that's as [TS]

00:00:43   good as it gets for me these days really [TS]

00:00:46   yeah but I have to leave after our [TS]

00:00:50   program to go be on the radio [TS]

00:00:52   ah the radio did the terrestrial radio [TS]

00:00:55   not our modern radio oh we should talk [TS]

00:00:57   more about things that you do you um you [TS]

00:01:01   uh surprise that's the wrong word I'm [TS]

00:01:04   frequently surprised I'm buoyed to see [TS]

00:01:06   that you go in perform places I saw I [TS]

00:01:08   saw a picture of you with long hair [TS]

00:01:09   performing you played the Pledger song [TS]

00:01:13   on the the brothers podcast you're still [TS]

00:01:15   out there you're still getting stuff [TS]

00:01:16   done oh you know you got to get stuff [TS]

00:01:18   done Merlin if you don't get it done and [TS]

00:01:20   how's it gonna get done it's gonna do [TS]

00:01:21   this stuff yeah that's right what can I [TS]

00:01:28   ask what kind of you know is it a KEXP [TS]

00:01:30   is it a Luke Burbank it's a what kind of [TS]

00:01:32   situation you got no none of the above [TS]

00:01:34   is say it's a KUOW which is our local [TS]

00:01:38   public radio station and they have a [TS]

00:01:40   they have a culture panel where they get [TS]

00:01:44   they sit around and discuss cultural [TS]

00:01:48   moments they say relatively like a [TS]

00:01:51   temper aeneas or like yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:01:53   okay all right yeah I mean it's a it's [TS]

00:01:56   just filler it's filler which is well a [TS]

00:01:59   98 percent of all content is oh my [TS]

00:02:01   goodness really oh I think so about [TS]

00:02:03   content yeah do you think most content [TS]

00:02:05   is filler I really do think it's in [TS]

00:02:07   substantial I think so [TS]

00:02:10   sure I mean you know like is the Azalea [TS]

00:02:12   let's say let's just say that for [TS]

00:02:14   instance why do you want to know [TS]

00:02:16   anything about is he as they Iggy Iggy [TS]

00:02:18   Azalea [TS]

00:02:19   she's so fancy she's fancy but do you do [TS]

00:02:22   you want to know anything about her I [TS]

00:02:24   had to learn a little bit about her I [TS]

00:02:29   don't take you off your topic about her [TS]

00:02:32   because I'm a fan of Charli XCX who's [TS]

00:02:37   the lady who sings the good part of that [TS]

00:02:38   one song oh sure the part where she's [TS]

00:02:41   not acting like like a black person from [TS]

00:02:42   New Orleans English which is which is a [TS]

00:02:47   really good part of that song huh and [TS]

00:02:50   then then I heard there was some kind of [TS]

00:02:52   dust up about her bona fides I should [TS]

00:02:55   add oh you were bad news was yeah with [TS]

00:02:59   the bad-boy demeanor and yeah [TS]

00:03:02   tattoos twos Nicki Minaj monster monster [TS]

00:03:06   everybody knows so the thing is I don't [TS]

00:03:08   know anything I don't think really I'm [TS]

00:03:10   really up on the rap these days monster [TS]

00:03:19   song it's a really good song when I see [TS]

00:03:21   that hotline bling you got the guy who [TS]

00:03:27   did the who did the the Marvin Gaye song [TS]

00:03:30   that was I'm definitely not doing this [TS]

00:03:33   with you know updates in rap what that [TS]

00:03:37   comes up on your cultural panel what if [TS]

00:03:38   you're expected to opine on the rap of [TS]

00:03:40   the day well this is the danger for me [TS]

00:03:42   now because since I'm not on Twitter I [TS]

00:03:44   don't know what the of the day stuff is [TS]

00:03:46   I didn't of the day thing on the [TS]

00:03:49   television a couple of days ago what do [TS]

00:03:52   you think about but it's up but it's all [TS]

00:03:54   stuff that I wouldn't have encountered [TS]

00:03:56   it anyway you know they'll hand you a [TS]

00:03:57   piece of paper here at the King 5 [TS]

00:04:00   breakfast show and it said there's a [TS]

00:04:05   there's a hotel for sale outside of Reno [TS]

00:04:08   that's decorated 100% in clowns and you [TS]

00:04:12   read the thing and you're like oh and [TS]

00:04:14   then you get online and or you get on [TS]

00:04:16   the TV with them and they're like what [TS]

00:04:17   do you think about that and you know and [TS]

00:04:19   people that are making pancakes or [TS]

00:04:21   people that are like getting the kids [TS]

00:04:23   off to school or whatever it is that [TS]

00:04:24   people do that watch those shows yeah [TS]

00:04:26   they're like law or the [TS]

00:04:29   there's a football player who was jet [TS]

00:04:31   skiing any and he crashed and he lost a [TS]

00:04:35   hundred and fifty thousand dollar [TS]

00:04:36   diamond earring what do we think about [TS]

00:04:39   that boys got something to say about it [TS]

00:04:42   John I don't know a lot about producing [TS]

00:04:44   content but IIIi think those are as you [TS]

00:04:48   say problematic yeah you don't start out [TS]

00:04:50   with something that's already funny and [TS]

00:04:52   then talk about it well the thing is [TS]

00:04:56   public radio is gonna be a little bit [TS]

00:04:57   it's you know it's not gonna be so the [TS]

00:05:01   humor is not gonna be so broad right [TS]

00:05:02   they're they're actually gonna say [TS]

00:05:04   here's an interesting thing right let [TS]

00:05:07   the state legislature of Oklahoma says X [TS]

00:05:11   and then but you know it's not gonna [TS]

00:05:13   actually be like it's not gonna be [TS]

00:05:15   biting nice it's it's cultural gentle [TS]

00:05:19   its gentle but that's one of the one of [TS]

00:05:22   the many things I do Merlyn in or in [TS]

00:05:25   order to get stuff done [TS]

00:05:26   in order to to make content for people [TS]

00:05:29   and to ultimately I guess to to be in [TS]

00:05:35   the mix you gotta stay in the mix you [TS]

00:05:37   follow the mix it's hard to get back in [TS]

00:05:39   oh yeah you can't get out you can't get [TS]

00:05:41   out of the mix and I'm like riding a [TS]

00:05:42   bike mm-hmm if you cuz then the mix [TS]

00:05:46   separates right and you can your sauce [TS]

00:05:49   yeah make your sauce you don't want to [TS]

00:05:53   break your sauce but this week is gonna [TS]

00:05:54   be this week's gonna be a hot week for [TS]

00:05:57   me because because it's a it's Seafarer [TS]

00:06:00   week here in Seattle OC for a week is [TS]

00:06:02   that like a Fleet Week type situation [TS]

00:06:04   that's right oh really [TS]

00:06:06   and I am be a king of the of the obscene [TS]

00:06:10   fair because your military service [TS]

00:06:13   because again they need some content [TS]

00:06:20   certain number of cubic inches of [TS]

00:06:23   content right and John can provide that [TS]

00:06:25   he can come in whereas little doctor [TS]

00:06:26   doctor whose suit and you come in and [TS]

00:06:28   you provide some content we get a crown [TS]

00:06:30   I have a crown this please [TS]

00:06:37   Cromwell they're on the they're on my [TS]

00:06:39   Instagram account Oh insta cuts right [TS]

00:06:41   you're still in the Instagram [TS]

00:06:42   oh yeah use Instagram crown sword I have [TS]

00:06:47   a tunic and so what you get in a [TS]

00:06:50   situation like this is get a lot of [TS]

00:06:52   events I'm gonna welcome the Blue Angels [TS]

00:06:55   to town oh my goodness oh my goodness [TS]

00:06:58   you've got a sash I do this is [TS]

00:07:02   outstanding I was at a parade I was in a [TS]

00:07:05   big parade 150,000 people watch the [TS]

00:07:08   parade tremendous parade it was a big [TS]

00:07:10   parade and then so this week I go I have [TS]

00:07:14   dinner on on the flagship the US Navy [TS]

00:07:18   admiral Pacific Admiral flagship boat I [TS]

00:07:23   shake Anza and kiss babies with the Blue [TS]

00:07:26   Angels quite a few times a lot of a lot [TS]

00:07:31   of events a lot of different category go [TS]

00:07:33   to the largest Rotary meeting in the [TS]

00:07:36   northwest which they have every year at [TS]

00:07:40   this time too [TS]

00:07:41   you know because the rotor is very [TS]

00:07:42   involved Wow things some breakfast some [TS]

00:07:48   dinners and then I watch the and oh and [TS]

00:07:52   throughout all of this I'm doing [TS]

00:07:53   ceremonial night ends oh my goodness you [TS]

00:07:56   you were born for this role John well [TS]

00:07:59   this is the thing this is the kind of [TS]

00:08:00   content that that I am that I that I can [TS]

00:08:05   freely give the City of Seattle because [TS]

00:08:10   without a king wearing a sash and a [TS]

00:08:14   sword all you have is a bunch of guys in [TS]

00:08:17   Navy uniforms milling around and then [TS]

00:08:20   some Chamber of Commerce types and some [TS]

00:08:21   rotary types and you know that the usual [TS]

00:08:24   suspects mm-hmm but then you throw then [TS]

00:08:27   you can throw a guy in a sash in there [TS]

00:08:29   and it's anybody's it's a buddy's game [TS]

00:08:34   at that point well you know if you're [TS]

00:08:36   gonna have a monarchy you should have a [TS]

00:08:38   king otherwise she's gonna have a power [TS]

00:08:41   vacuum well won't be a monarchy well in [TS]

00:08:44   mmm-hmm the other day I was asked I'm [TS]

00:08:49   sorry I'm kind of distract I don't look [TS]

00:08:51   at Instagram but now I'm looking at your [TS]

00:08:52   Instagram you have all kinds of photos [TS]

00:08:53   on here you know that's right it's my [TS]

00:08:55   picture that you [TS]

00:08:56   the brothers there's you oh look at you [TS]

00:08:58   look at you and a little little sweet [TS]

00:08:59   baby brother and look at that yeah oh [TS]

00:09:01   did you get your fill sandbag buck no [TS]

00:09:04   okay [TS]

00:09:05   you all set you a Catwoman a Catwoman [TS]

00:09:09   and I were looking at some comics I was [TS]

00:09:11   asking her some questions because she is [TS]

00:09:13   running the she was running the the [TS]

00:09:15   booth I was like hey I don't see in here [TS]

00:09:17   what I'm looking for and she came over [TS]

00:09:19   someone took a a candid photograph wait [TS]

00:09:22   you looking for Oklahoma sex cat sex cat [TS]

00:09:28   yeah yeah I wasn't looking for that but [TS]

00:09:30   now that you remind me of Oklahoma the [TS]

00:09:32   sex cat I'm you know I should add it I [TS]

00:09:35   should add it to my list you should make [TS]

00:09:36   an apple note oh there's your mom look [TS]

00:09:38   at your mom oh so that they so like for [TS]

00:09:41   instance the other day I think that when [TS]

00:09:45   they asked me to be King Neptune they [TS]

00:09:49   had in mind that they wanted Seafarer to [TS]

00:09:51   be a little bit hipper than it's been [TS]

00:09:54   last year the King Neptune was was a [TS]

00:09:57   member of the Seattle Seahawks and and [TS]

00:10:02   he had a fun time with it when he [TS]

00:10:07   bothered but it was that that was their [TS]

00:10:12   typical the typical mistake I think that [TS]

00:10:14   that you make in a situation like this [TS]

00:10:16   where you're like this is an this is an [TS]

00:10:18   honorary position and we're gonna give [TS]

00:10:20   it to an upstanding citizen and then you [TS]

00:10:22   pick somebody that that is in your own [TS]

00:10:25   world [TS]

00:10:26   you're a Chamber of Commerce the kind of [TS]

00:10:28   organization you pick somebody from that [TS]

00:10:30   world yeah it's impressive in that world [TS]

00:10:34   like a Seahawk but that's not very fun [TS]

00:10:39   you know what I mean like you go to a [TS]

00:10:41   Rotary meeting with a guy that has been [TS]

00:10:43   to a lot of rotary meetings it's very [TS]

00:10:45   it's just like it's very internal and [TS]

00:10:48   then you realize oh we're producing an [TS]

00:10:50   event for the whole city but but we're [TS]

00:10:53   doing the we're making the old mistake [TS]

00:10:55   of just like it's a circle jerk hit him [TS]

00:11:00   where they ain't you yes you want power [TS]

00:11:02   but you obviously you want somebody who [TS]

00:11:05   you know has respect for the service [TS]

00:11:07   mm-hmm [TS]

00:11:09   drawing power somebody who loves the [TS]

00:11:11   city of Seattle and who isn't just [TS]

00:11:13   coasting yeah I also think you probably [TS]

00:11:15   want somebody who's a good sport [TS]

00:11:16   you gotta be a good sport right but [TS]

00:11:19   there's the version of being King [TS]

00:11:20   Neptune good sport where you stand there [TS]

00:11:22   gamely with your sash and your crown on [TS]

00:11:25   and they hand you a piece of paper and [TS]

00:11:27   they say read this and then we're gonna [TS]

00:11:31   Knight this your fellow citizen and you [TS]

00:11:37   gamely read it and everyone gamely [TS]

00:11:39   applauds but then there's then you there [TS]

00:11:44   the UM another option which is swing for [TS]

00:11:48   the fences and in this year they said [TS]

00:11:50   why don't we get why don't we try and [TS]

00:11:51   make C fare a little bit more fun and [TS]

00:11:52   they got they asked me to be king them [TS]

00:11:55   too and it's hard for me to tell I I do [TS]

00:11:59   know that I'm putting pressure on the [TS]

00:12:02   organization by being a little too fun I [TS]

00:12:05   don't know how much sting it's kind of a [TS]

00:12:09   Footloose type situation where a little [TS]

00:12:11   bit where they bring you in because they [TS]

00:12:12   say this guy's a good sport he looks [TS]

00:12:14   great in an outfit and a crown but now [TS]

00:12:16   now it's a in the second act things are [TS]

00:12:19   turning around a little bit and they're [TS]

00:12:20   going oh it's this guy cuz it's got [TS]

00:12:22   gonna be a pistol well a little bit of a [TS]

00:12:24   pistol right so the Seafarer grand [TS]

00:12:28   marshals of the parade who are it's [TS]

00:12:30   another honorary position there are a [TS]

00:12:32   lot of these I think the grand marshals [TS]

00:12:35   of the parade and a couple of years ago [TS]

00:12:37   one of the grand marshals was Duff [TS]

00:12:39   McKagan my my good pal who is also a [TS]

00:12:41   Seattle light a very vociferous [TS]

00:12:44   supporter of Seattle [TS]

00:12:45   that's just what is it it's an honorary [TS]

00:12:47   thing they hand you a scepter you go I [TS]

00:12:49   hereby commence the parade and you know [TS]

00:12:52   it's but it's a fun thing it's a nice [TS]

00:12:54   honor well this year last year they had [TS]

00:12:57   Chris Pratt and an actress who everybody [TS]

00:13:02   talks about very excitedly and who each [TS]

00:13:05   time her name is mentioned I can't [TS]

00:13:07   remember which one she is okay but one [TS]

00:13:10   that everybody was excited to meet last [TS]

00:13:11   year now I would be very excited to meet [TS]

00:13:13   Chris Pratt because he's my favorite [TS]

00:13:15   actress yeah he's a very good actor [TS]

00:13:18   and I have to say just for what it's [TS]

00:13:19   worth he's also seems like a good sport [TS]

00:13:22   for good sport right and so it was very [TS]

00:13:23   exciting so this year again they tried [TS]

00:13:26   to maybe maybe they tried to duplicate [TS]

00:13:29   their success yet last year so he [TS]

00:13:31   brought along his lady friend and Anna [TS]

00:13:33   Faris Anna Faris that's right and [TS]

00:13:35   everybody's very excited about Hannah [TS]

00:13:36   Ferris mm-hmm [TS]

00:13:37   this year they got James woke and Billy [TS]

00:13:40   Burke of the television show zoo Y which [TS]

00:13:45   is on I don't know what the WB your CBS [TS]

00:13:48   I don't know oh my goodness [TS]

00:13:50   zoo better Marshalls so these are these [TS]

00:13:53   actors and what they are is some actors [TS]

00:13:57   from a thing that TV show like if it was [TS]

00:13:59   if we were at comic-con Waterson to you [TS]

00:14:02   yes oh we're about this I mean who knows [TS]

00:14:06   ya know if it was nothing I've heard [TS]

00:14:08   about there's a comic-con and I walked [TS]

00:14:10   past these guys at a booth I would go [TS]

00:14:11   sure of course but here they are and [TS]

00:14:13   they're presented to me as like here are [TS]

00:14:15   the grand marshals of the parade and you [TS]

00:14:16   are meant to Knight them and then they [TS]

00:14:20   commence the parade and it's all this [TS]

00:14:22   thing this the it's a little bit of it [TS]

00:14:25   some song and dance is what we're doing [TS]

00:14:26   we're going slightly absolutely so here [TS]

00:14:29   they come in the way I met this event [TS]

00:14:31   and there some there are quite a few [TS]

00:14:32   Admirals which is very exciting I met [TS]

00:14:34   the commander of the Coast Guard for the [TS]

00:14:36   Pacific region I met the the compare the [TS]

00:14:40   Admiral of the Stennis Strike Force [TS]

00:14:44   sleeps the aircraft carrier strike force [TS]

00:14:48   another Admirals I made some I made some [TS]

00:14:52   business with some animals you know I [TS]

00:14:53   did a little look some walls with them [TS]

00:14:56   another talk about game those guys have [TS]

00:14:59   to be game because they do a lot of this [TS]

00:15:00   type of thing anyway so up they walk in [TS]

00:15:03   here comes Billy Burke who's a guy [TS]

00:15:05   clearly my age but handsome Billy Billy [TS]

00:15:09   Burke okay Lee Burke he was in the [TS]

00:15:11   Twilight series Oh anyway he's wearing [TS]

00:15:15   son I know this guy I thought Billy [TS]

00:15:17   Burke was the good Queen and Wizard of [TS]

00:15:19   Oz that's why that's the difference a [TS]

00:15:21   different Billy Burke okay but he's [TS]

00:15:24   wearing sunglasses he's got his hair is [TS]

00:15:26   dirty hair up in a man bun he's wearing [TS]

00:15:28   a Seahawks t-shirt a dirty unzipped [TS]

00:15:33   hoodie and some shorts [TS]

00:15:34   Annie and I'm like seriously that [TS]

00:15:37   doesn't bring much gravitas visa V [TS]

00:15:39   marshalling know somebody somebody told [TS]

00:15:42   you that you were gonna be the grand [TS]

00:15:44   marshal of a parade and you show up in [TS]

00:15:47   your pajamas I was offended and so did [TS]

00:15:52   you try to keep it in no I'm standing in [TS]

00:15:56   front of this group of local dignitaries [TS]

00:15:58   and I call him up and as they as they [TS]

00:16:00   walked out my mom like Billy you didn't [TS]

00:16:02   have to get dressed up all special for [TS]

00:16:05   the parade [TS]

00:16:06   and Billy Burke I don't then he put on a [TS]

00:16:10   strange smile but I don't think he liked [TS]

00:16:12   being roasted and then I said a few [TS]

00:16:15   times as I was knighting him like you [TS]

00:16:17   know Billy Billy made the special effort [TS]

00:16:20   to roll out of bed to come be the grand [TS]

00:16:22   marshal of Seattle's parade and I think [TS]

00:16:23   we should honor him with this great [TS]

00:16:25   honor oh my goodness and it's and the [TS]

00:16:29   thing is I'm not being hostile I'm being [TS]

00:16:31   funny it's fun Billy Burke [TS]

00:16:34   fifty-year-olds grand marshal of a [TS]

00:16:36   parade and he you know he should be able [TS]

00:16:41   to take a little bit of this because he [TS]

00:16:42   chose he chose that outfit not you yeah [TS]

00:16:45   that's right cuz fuck you Billy and [TS]

00:16:46   thing is James woke a younger man the [TS]

00:16:50   star of the star of this TV show James [TS]

00:16:52   work he showed up in a collared shirt [TS]

00:16:54   with some pants now he didn't tuck his [TS]

00:16:56   shirt in but he's a young person and he [TS]

00:17:00   was loving it he was loving that Billy [TS]

00:17:03   was getting raked over the coals so it [TS]

00:17:05   was a little bit of a roasty situation [TS]

00:17:07   is what happened huh now that is not [TS]

00:17:11   what is I think typical of this event [TS]

00:17:17   you unintentionally or maybe you made a [TS]

00:17:20   little edgy I made a little some fun [TS]

00:17:23   here we're gonna have a little fun and [TS]

00:17:25   since since I established that tone then [TS]

00:17:27   I knighted a couple of admirals and I [TS]

00:17:30   gave them a little bit of the same kind [TS]

00:17:32   of business like oh here is the Admiral [TS]

00:17:36   of the Pacific Coast Guard fleet [TS]

00:17:39   commander and I said is Alaska part of [TS]

00:17:42   your area and he said no they're a [TS]

00:17:44   separate group and I said oh so then [TS]

00:17:48   you you have Montana and Idaho the two [TS]

00:17:52   great coastal states some boy and he was [TS]

00:17:55   mad and then I realized oh right the [TS]

00:17:58   Missouri River the Snake River the [TS]

00:18:00   Columbia River like the Coast Guard is [TS]

00:18:02   also in the rivers okay and so then I [TS]

00:18:05   you know so I corrected myself and I was [TS]

00:18:07   like oh you also are all the waterways [TS]

00:18:10   all the great waterways he and I made [TS]

00:18:13   good friends the Admiral and I but you [TS]

00:18:16   know a little bit but I think the people [TS]

00:18:19   at seif they're the ones who have asked [TS]

00:18:21   me to do this job are now hopping up and [TS]

00:18:26   down not in anger but in anxiety because [TS]

00:18:30   what is the king gonna say next kind of [TS]

00:18:33   thing which is I think the exact kind of [TS]

00:18:38   fun that they were hoping to have in [TS]

00:18:40   just slightly smaller measure and so [TS]

00:18:46   this is the this is the fun for me right [TS]

00:18:48   this is a ceremonial position I'm not [TS]

00:18:50   getting paid it's this is all [TS]

00:18:51   interesting this is a old boy know what [TS]

00:18:55   about Chris Pratt is he doing it for [TS]

00:18:56   free everybody does this for free this [TS]

00:18:58   Chris Pratt brought his family to [TS]

00:19:00   Seattle and did this job for free yeah I [TS]

00:19:05   mean you know I'm sure they put him up [TS]

00:19:07   yeah but uh you should check that out [TS]

00:19:09   that mmm that sounds a little bit like a [TS]

00:19:11   jamup to me it's the type of thing that [TS]

00:19:14   is I think it falls into the the sort of [TS]

00:19:20   general community service aspect of [TS]

00:19:22   being famous you get honored with these [TS]

00:19:26   things and if you say yes there's no you [TS]

00:19:30   know what does Seafarer gonna give give [TS]

00:19:31   him five grand I mean that's not that's [TS]

00:19:34   not something Chris Pratt's gonna put [TS]

00:19:35   his family and I think me I don't know I [TS]

00:19:39   don't know how much of this is image [TS]

00:19:40   management but I've seen tons of [TS]

00:19:42   delightful pictures of him visiting kids [TS]

00:19:44   in hospitals and bringing them Lego and [TS]

00:19:46   doing things in costume and he seems [TS]

00:19:47   like kind of a Mitch like I don't know [TS]

00:19:49   if that's aI don't know if that's like a [TS]

00:19:51   rock the Dwayne Johnson type situation [TS]

00:19:53   where he's just doing image management [TS]

00:19:55   who knows but but he seems he seems like [TS]

00:19:58   he'd be like a pretty cool guy maybe [TS]

00:19:59   just totally like him on Parks and Rec [TS]

00:20:02   it's the reason why he's one of my [TS]

00:20:04   favorite actresses yeah but I think past [TS]

00:20:07   a certain point right what will what [TS]

00:20:10   this will be is Chris Pratt probably has [TS]

00:20:13   a foundation and then this he'll do this [TS]

00:20:18   in return for the opportunity to put his [TS]

00:20:26   foundation for kids on the masthead of [TS]

00:20:29   some other you know what I mean like [TS]

00:20:31   it's it's a different kind of currencies [TS]

00:20:34   the wrong word but for lack of a better [TS]

00:20:35   word it's a different kind of currency [TS]

00:20:37   it's a kind of social tokens that we [TS]

00:20:40   pass back and forth we try and do the [TS]

00:20:41   right thing and these are the this is [TS]

00:20:44   what the Rotary Club is all about right [TS]

00:20:46   the Rotary Club sends some students to [TS]

00:20:48   go bei Japan and Kobe Japan send some [TS]

00:20:51   students to rotary and one of those [TS]

00:20:54   students one day goes to college and [TS]

00:20:57   become a majors in business management [TS]

00:20:59   and ends up being the deputy director of [TS]

00:21:02   the port and rotary pins appends a star [TS]

00:21:07   on him and though her and the star then [TS]

00:21:13   goes up on a on a piece of wood on the [TS]

00:21:16   wall of a place and you know it's like [TS]

00:21:18   there is a there is a world of [TS]

00:21:20   honorarium a world of and everyone is [TS]

00:21:27   very proud there's a lot of like pride [TS]

00:21:30   in the work that they do [TS]

00:21:31   it feels meaningful it feels like it [TS]

00:21:34   spreads a fraternity thus the whole [TS]

00:21:38   sister-city notion of like and now [TS]

00:21:41   someone who's here from our sister city [TS]

00:21:43   in Uzbekistan and they brought an [TS]

00:21:48   entourage and you know and being like [TS]

00:21:53   being is even tangentially involved in [TS]

00:21:59   that in this kind of world like I have [TS]

00:22:01   to I have to also realize they're [TS]

00:22:04   creating content for their own markets [TS]

00:22:06   and sure again it's it's a kind of thumb [TS]

00:22:11   I don't visible but a kind of yes [TS]

00:22:14   you're saying it's it's it's content and [TS]

00:22:16   it's it's a kind of reputational Wafi [TS]

00:22:19   tokens like there's it's interesting [TS]

00:22:20   you're moving kind of invisible [TS]

00:22:22   resources around yeah and and I think I [TS]

00:22:25   think what what the benefit of these [TS]

00:22:28   things is to the people that that are [TS]

00:22:31   knee-deep in it is like this is where [TS]

00:22:34   after you've awarded the the blue ribbon [TS]

00:22:37   for the state's largest cow or after [TS]

00:22:41   you've sent 25 kids to college and [TS]

00:22:44   Antarctica for the semester then as [TS]

00:22:47   you're standing around at the end of the [TS]

00:22:48   meeting somebody like my dad says hey [TS]

00:22:53   Bill I want to meet Tony and Tony goes [TS]

00:22:57   hey Bill how's it going I'm trying to [TS]

00:22:59   you know I'm the guy that's trying to [TS]

00:23:01   get the permits to build the sixty five [TS]

00:23:03   storey office tower on the land adjacent [TS]

00:23:07   to where you are trying to also build a [TS]

00:23:10   tower and you are holding up my permits [TS]

00:23:12   haha why don't we figure that out and [TS]

00:23:15   it's like oh you're a Rotarian Wow and [TS]

00:23:18   like that kind of handshake II thing is [TS]

00:23:21   what people that aren't in the room and [TS]

00:23:25   what you know what democratic socialists [TS]

00:23:28   are what makes them so suspicious and [TS]

00:23:31   angry because it seems like that's where [TS]

00:23:34   all chummy yeah that's where all the [TS]

00:23:36   deals are getting made and that's why [TS]

00:23:37   those organizations exist now being [TS]

00:23:41   inside them right I see like oh that's [TS]

00:23:43   not why they exist but it is a it is an [TS]

00:23:47   element it is a fringe benefit of it [TS]

00:23:50   that the people that are invited are the [TS]

00:23:53   ones that are seen to need to be there [TS]

00:23:55   and then that's how things get done and [TS]

00:24:01   it's uh it's not very creative and it's [TS]

00:24:06   not very it's not it's not fun by any [TS]

00:24:09   standards that we have like it's not [TS]

00:24:12   like the things that are supposed to be [TS]

00:24:14   funny aren't funny the things that are [TS]

00:24:15   supposed to be neat aren't neat there [TS]

00:24:18   are a lot of PowerPoint demonstrations [TS]

00:24:20   where people are showing slideshows of [TS]

00:24:22   all the kids that they've helped but it [TS]

00:24:26   really does [TS]

00:24:27   come from I don't know a place in those [TS]

00:24:31   people that is altruistic mm-hmm a [TS]

00:24:35   desire to help and I have no idea how [TS]

00:24:40   but but I now AM on not on the I'm in [TS]

00:24:46   the anteroom of these people because I'm [TS]

00:24:50   because whatever they pick me out as [TS]

00:24:53   somebody that's game that will come to [TS]

00:24:56   these things and be a little roasty and [TS]

00:24:59   be a little bit because the thing is in [TS]

00:25:02   a group of in a group where the [TS]

00:25:04   admiral's are standing around right [TS]

00:25:05   there's a lot of respect for the [TS]

00:25:09   Admirals and the Admirals are standing [TS]

00:25:12   around used to being respected it's [TS]

00:25:14   their number one job description respect [TS]

00:25:17   these guys right like they're every [TS]

00:25:19   single room they've ever walked into [TS]

00:25:21   from the time that they were a [TS]

00:25:23   lieutenant junior grade some large [TS]

00:25:27   proportion of the people in that room [TS]

00:25:28   are respecting them mm-hmm no one ever [TS]

00:25:31   disrespects them except maybe and part [TS]

00:25:34   of it is um you learn so early on that [TS]

00:25:36   you get respect by giving respect [TS]

00:25:38   there's a tremendous respect as the [TS]

00:25:41   currency right and so that but the [TS]

00:25:44   Admirals in this situation are like [TS]

00:25:46   they'd to go to a lot of rotary meetings [TS]

00:25:48   they behaved respectfully but you don't [TS]

00:25:52   get the sense that they you know part of [TS]

00:25:56   respect sad to say is that you are [TS]

00:26:02   impressed and maybe a little afraid [TS]

00:26:04   right I mean certainly the respect [TS]

00:26:06   they're used to commanding has a healthy [TS]

00:26:08   element of fear in it because the people [TS]

00:26:12   that are like yes sir are ones that can [TS]

00:26:17   be in big trouble [TS]

00:26:18   if they say yes sir wrong and so the [TS]

00:26:22   Admirals are in this thing and there are [TS]

00:26:23   a lot of rote Aryans and and people from [TS]

00:26:25   the city and the animals aren't really [TS]

00:26:26   very afraid of them you know they're [TS]

00:26:29   it's not like somebody from Seattle is [TS]

00:26:31   going to say we're not giving the Navy [TS]

00:26:34   permits to park their boats here this [TS]

00:26:36   year because we're making I mean it's [TS]

00:26:38   possible if we elected a mayor [TS]

00:26:41   was a real radical but ultimately the [TS]

00:26:45   Navy's not worried about Seattle but a [TS]

00:26:49   situation like that you know my job I as [TS]

00:26:54   I see it is to because the lot of these [TS]

00:26:57   animals aren't that much older than me [TS]

00:27:00   right I know I know 54 and so although [TS]

00:27:06   I'm iris I respect to the office and I [TS]

00:27:12   respect the Navy let's say I don't have [TS]

00:27:16   a lot of social fear because what is it [TS]

00:27:20   Admiral gonna do to me what is what are [TS]

00:27:22   these people gonna do to me and so no [TS]

00:27:27   one ever roasts Admirals particularly [TS]

00:27:29   not at a thing like this that's so low [TS]

00:27:31   weight like this is these are low power [TS]

00:27:34   events for these people the Seafarer [TS]

00:27:37   parade you know they do they don't come [TS]

00:27:40   expecting to be ribbed publicly and and [TS]

00:27:43   I think personally that they love it I [TS]

00:27:46   think it's fun for them I think that a [TS]

00:27:49   everybody likes to be roasted a little [TS]

00:27:51   and it's a like nobody ever [TS]

00:27:56   nobody ever sidles up to them and says [TS]

00:27:58   so tell me is that do you don't you get [TS]

00:28:01   tired of wearing these uniforms that are [TS]

00:28:03   half polyester I mean couldn't you have [TS]

00:28:05   a uniform Taylor do you think they like [TS]

00:28:06   that I think they do because it's a kind [TS]

00:28:10   of banter that they it's the sort of [TS]

00:28:13   banter that I would you know that I [TS]

00:28:14   would lay on you yeah and they and they [TS]

00:28:17   do have those feelings like so I'm [TS]

00:28:19   standing next to the King County Sheriff [TS]

00:28:21   who is a beep he's a big deal here and [TS]

00:28:25   we're watching the opening remarks and I [TS]

00:28:29   and there's a young deputy standing next [TS]

00:28:31   to him who's not his who's it basically [TS]

00:28:34   looks like his son and is sort of acting [TS]

00:28:37   like his son and I don't think he's a [TS]

00:28:38   bodyguard he's just his he's probably [TS]

00:28:42   his aide-de-camp [TS]

00:28:43   he says Ballena called Theia is his body [TS]

00:28:45   manners back now but yeah he says he's [TS]

00:28:48   the guy that's gonna eat his purse he [TS]

00:28:50   gets his Leviathan and [TS]

00:28:51   he needs a magnifying glass he knows [TS]

00:28:53   where to pull it out right yeah so I'm [TS]

00:28:55   standing next to the camp eight to camp [TS]

00:28:57   what a great term aid to camp it's got [TS]

00:28:59   to be what he is and I look over in the [TS]

00:29:02   and the King County Sheriff has a side [TS]

00:29:04   arm and the side arm you know it's [TS]

00:29:09   unlikely that this sixty year old man is [TS]

00:29:12   ever gonna draw his sidearm again but [TS]

00:29:14   it's there because it's part of the [TS]

00:29:16   uniform uh-huh and I looked down and it [TS]

00:29:19   has a single piece of scotch tape [TS]

00:29:22   wrapped around the handle wrapped around [TS]

00:29:25   the grip and I look at him I kind of [TS]

00:29:29   think about it for a second and I walk [TS]

00:29:31   over and I say Sheriff and he looks at [TS]

00:29:36   me and I'm wearing a crown yeah yes so [TS]

00:29:39   he's so he's not gonna say hello citizen [TS]

00:29:41   he's gonna say what the fuck is this now [TS]

00:29:44   and I said sheriff I can't help but [TS]

00:29:47   notice that your sidearm is held [TS]

00:29:48   together with scotch tape can you and he [TS]

00:29:53   starts to laugh and his aide camp starts [TS]

00:29:55   to laugh and I said can you give me a [TS]

00:29:59   some explanation for why the sheriff of [TS]

00:30:03   King County can't find a screw for his [TS]

00:30:07   or whatever and he says well you know [TS]

00:30:09   the the grip is a little bit Wiggly and [TS]

00:30:14   so I fixed it and you're the first [TS]

00:30:16   person that's ever said anything about [TS]

00:30:18   it and now my aide camp is laughing at [TS]

00:30:22   me so thanks very much for that Wow and [TS]

00:30:25   I figured either his kid put it on there [TS]

00:30:28   he kept it on cuz it was sweet Oh cuz [TS]

00:30:31   you know get a lot of that your kid put [TS]

00:30:32   stuff on your things I'm sure it was [TS]

00:30:34   that or there was maybe so he could get [TS]

00:30:37   his fingerprints off there if you need [TS]

00:30:38   it to no just a single piece of scotch [TS]

00:30:41   tape all right and and so I said well [TS]

00:30:44   you know sheriff that's wonderful [TS]

00:30:46   because I'm gonna be able now to report [TS]

00:30:49   to the citizens of King County that you [TS]

00:30:50   are not wasting precious County [TS]

00:30:52   resources on doing things like fixing [TS]

00:30:56   the grip of your gun [TS]

00:30:57   yeah which you're unlikely to draw and [TS]

00:30:59   so then he's like oh here's I got a live [TS]

00:31:03   one here and we sit and chat [TS]

00:31:05   because in a way that kind of banter [TS]

00:31:10   establishes establishes that there is a [TS]

00:31:16   that my lack of fear is a kind of peer [TS]

00:31:21   I'm establishing a peer relationship [TS]

00:31:24   right like I am clearly not a peer of [TS]

00:31:27   the King County Sheriff in any respect [TS]

00:31:30   right sort of classic sense not in the [TS]

00:31:33   classic sense but I'm also not [TS]

00:31:36   intimidated by him and that's unusual [TS]

00:31:39   for him right I mean the only people [TS]

00:31:42   that aren't intimidated by the King [TS]

00:31:43   County Sheriff are his wife and his kids [TS]

00:31:45   probably because everybody else that he [TS]

00:31:48   meets in it in the course of this [TS]

00:31:50   situation is either someone who reports [TS]

00:31:52   to him or someone who needs him needs [TS]

00:31:55   his political support mm-hmm I mean [TS]

00:31:58   that's it's um I don't mean this [TS]

00:32:00   disparagingly but that's a managerial [TS]

00:32:02   job big time right I mean I mean you [TS]

00:32:06   know I wouldn't Domitian I'm sure that [TS]

00:32:08   he would be happy to jump in and grab a [TS]

00:32:09   broom if he needed to but like his job [TS]

00:32:11   is very that's a high level [TS]

00:32:13   administrative job he manages other [TS]

00:32:14   managers and he came up through the [TS]

00:32:16   ranks and you know one of the Dave [TS]

00:32:18   Reichert who was a former King County [TS]

00:32:20   Sheriff became a US congressman so it's [TS]

00:32:22   a political job okay all right and he [TS]

00:32:25   goes to these events and everything [TS]

00:32:28   everything that we're looking at at this [TS]

00:32:30   event is within his jurisdiction he is [TS]

00:32:33   the sheriff of all of this and so [TS]

00:32:36   everybody at this thing is like sheriff [TS]

00:32:39   you know thanks for coming and also we [TS]

00:32:43   you know we're looking for your help if [TS]

00:32:47   next year at the whatchamacallit thing [TS]

00:32:50   and so no one ever comes up and says [TS]

00:32:55   what's the deal with your broken gun [TS]

00:32:56   giggling yeah what's up with that and [TS]

00:32:58   and he likes it right everybody likes [TS]

00:33:01   that everybody wants somebody to come up [TS]

00:33:03   and take the steam out of them or at [TS]

00:33:05   least everybody who's normal like I'm [TS]

00:33:08   sure there's a king I'm sure there's a [TS]

00:33:09   sheriff somebody somewhere who's like [TS]

00:33:11   move along citizen I mean in my [TS]

00:33:16   estimation that [TS]

00:33:18   is less bothersome to people who are [TS]

00:33:20   both powerful and confident right there [TS]

00:33:22   are there are people in positions of [TS]

00:33:24   power that are not that confident [TS]

00:33:25   nominee any names here and then there [TS]

00:33:28   are other people who are very confident [TS]

00:33:29   but don't have power and that kind of [TS]

00:33:31   thing if you haven't gotten through the [TS]

00:33:33   ranks and moved up feels like a slight [TS]

00:33:36   that must be addressed in the moment it [TS]

00:33:39   much like you went on like a playground [TS]

00:33:41   right power you can you can laugh it off [TS]

00:33:44   because you know let's just not gonna [TS]

00:33:46   bother you well and he is a he's a he's [TS]

00:33:49   a politician ultimately and so he's not [TS]

00:33:52   gonna get to that job and be good at it [TS]

00:33:55   if he doesn't have a sense of humor [TS]

00:33:56   because it's you've got to you've got to [TS]

00:33:59   be fielding a lot of crazy shit all day [TS]

00:34:01   and a few minutes later I'm standing [TS]

00:34:04   with the King County Executive who is [TS]

00:34:07   the sheriff's boss nominally who's a [TS]

00:34:10   young guy and actually a friend of mine [TS]

00:34:13   like somebody that I know socially and [TS]

00:34:16   he's the I think the greatest politician [TS]

00:34:19   in the state by a large margin and [TS]

00:34:21   everybody thinks so his name is Dow [TS]

00:34:22   Constantine and he is a he's just a [TS]

00:34:26   great politician and he's a he's a [TS]

00:34:29   liberal he gets things done and he's [TS]

00:34:30   also a cool guy right he's at this event [TS]

00:34:32   he's dressed appropriately except he's [TS]

00:34:35   wearing converse because he's a because [TS]

00:34:38   he's a Justin Trudeau he's having a [TS]

00:34:41   little fun he's having a little fun [TS]

00:34:43   because it's a fun time but he's also [TS]

00:34:46   got a blazer on and he's he he found in [TS]

00:34:49   his collection of accoutrements all his [TS]

00:34:52   little Seafarer pins and buttons that [TS]

00:34:54   he's received over the years as various [TS]

00:34:56   like every one of these little things [TS]

00:34:58   that some King Neptune has given him [TS]

00:35:00   like I hereby proclaim that you are the [TS]

00:35:03   king of the day and they hand you a [TS]

00:35:06   little pin Dow has them arranged [TS]

00:35:10   somewhere so that when he's coming to [TS]

00:35:13   this some assistant says and here are [TS]

00:35:15   your Seafarer pins and he puts them on [TS]

00:35:17   his blazer so that it's just like and [TS]

00:35:19   that's how you're a good politician you [TS]

00:35:22   know you show up at this and you're [TS]

00:35:23   wearing the right pins [TS]

00:35:25   and so you know that's let me pause you [TS]

00:35:28   for a second because I like that phrase [TS]

00:35:30   what was the phrase knowing the right [TS]

00:35:31   pins that's really that's kind of a [TS]

00:35:35   really good way to put it because it [TS]

00:35:36   also encompasses a lot of the different [TS]

00:35:39   kinds of things we're talking about [TS]

00:35:40   whether that's Rotary Club or your [TS]

00:35:42   father you know uh councilor you know [TS]

00:35:44   like knowing all of the ways to like [TS]

00:35:47   wear the right pin becomes very [TS]

00:35:49   important in these situations right [TS]

00:35:51   remember remember how politicians were [TS]

00:35:54   being bullied into wearing American flag [TS]

00:35:56   pins during the Bush administration oh [TS]

00:35:58   it was it was this I remember after I [TS]

00:36:00   want to say after 9/11 there was this or [TS]

00:36:02   things like which late-night talk-show [TS]

00:36:04   host will be the first to stop wearing [TS]

00:36:06   up a flag pin yeah and if you if you [TS]

00:36:10   appear there was a while there where if [TS]

00:36:12   you appeared as a public figure without [TS]

00:36:14   a flag pin on it was cause for censure [TS]

00:36:17   especially if you were a Steph you were [TS]

00:36:19   a a public servant and I think I think [TS]

00:36:23   you will still see an awful lot of flag [TS]

00:36:25   pins on the lapels of I mean I don't [TS]

00:36:28   think there's a single Republican [TS]

00:36:30   Congress person that doesn't have a [TS]

00:36:31   flight well a lot of them wear that that [TS]

00:36:33   goofy slightly oversized badge that [TS]

00:36:36   Congress person's get that looks a [TS]

00:36:39   little silly because when I see them [TS]

00:36:40   talking on the MSNBC it looks a little [TS]

00:36:42   bit like like a POG maybe or something [TS]

00:36:46   you know it's a big pin trading culture [TS]

00:36:48   at theme parks sure I think this is how [TS]

00:36:51   that the sheriff with the cowboy hat got [TS]

00:36:52   a lot of his Mad Max when Morton Joe [TS]

00:36:55   pins is just trading with other cowboy [TS]

00:36:57   sheriffs yeah this whole penetrating [TS]

00:36:59   culture and I think that's part of what [TS]

00:37:01   you're describing here knowing the right [TS]

00:37:02   pin but but also it encompasses the [TS]

00:37:04   things like the things that I look at [TS]

00:37:06   and see as magical like the ability to [TS]

00:37:08   remember people's names yeah what they [TS]

00:37:11   do what they used to do who they know [TS]

00:37:14   who their family is and to do that [TS]

00:37:17   without going back like I are you you [TS]

00:37:20   know that's I I just look at that and I [TS]

00:37:22   just said look at something like that [TS]

00:37:23   sheriff I just go man that guy's got it [TS]

00:37:25   wired right well and you think about you [TS]

00:37:27   think about Dow how many different [TS]

00:37:30   events he goes to where they hand him a [TS]

00:37:33   pin and he goes home and somehow puts [TS]

00:37:37   that pin into a system [TS]

00:37:38   where he says the next time I go to the [TS]

00:37:41   to the King County reservoir maintenance [TS]

00:37:46   directors Jamboree I'm gonna be able to [TS]

00:37:50   put this pin on my lapel and and when I [TS]

00:37:52   arrive and they see it they are going to [TS]

00:37:55   be chuffed right there's no look that [TS]

00:37:56   you can tell I'm excited and this is my [TS]

00:37:58   fifth one of these look at my lapel I'm [TS]

00:38:00   wearing I'm wearing my flight of pins [TS]

00:38:01   it's it's phenomenal you know that [TS]

00:38:04   ability and that and the knowledge that [TS]

00:38:07   that is the thing you need to need that [TS]

00:38:08   you need to do but so I'm standing there [TS]

00:38:11   in down an hour just talking about our [TS]

00:38:12   families and we're talking about our [TS]

00:38:13   lives and a guy walks up and he's one of [TS]

00:38:17   the people I've I have honored that day [TS]

00:38:19   who's a who runs an organization that [TS]

00:38:22   supports the Navy and he says you know [TS]

00:38:25   hey sorry to interrupt I just wanted to [TS]

00:38:27   say hi just wanted to say thank you [TS]

00:38:28   Dowell remembers his name Dom knows who [TS]

00:38:30   he is and he says just wanted to make [TS]

00:38:33   sure you got my email inviting you to [TS]

00:38:36   the event that we're doing and it's a [TS]

00:38:41   little bit of a you know I know I know I [TS]

00:38:43   know that message I've gotten a message [TS]

00:38:45   and and this is a protocol breach [TS]

00:38:47   because we're at a thing dows wearing is [TS]

00:38:49   his fun shoes but you can tell that this [TS]

00:38:53   man is very earnest about his work and [TS]

00:38:57   as part of that earnestness he does not [TS]

00:39:00   recognize social [TS]

00:39:04   [Music] [TS]

00:39:05   whatever the way the wiggle room is [TS]

00:39:07   between this is an event where you say [TS]

00:39:10   something like that this is not slightly [TS]

00:39:12   cringy breach of protocol a little bit [TS]

00:39:15   but Dow is very very graceful sure and [TS]

00:39:18   Dow says you know I don't have any staff [TS]

00:39:22   members with me right now and so and [TS]

00:39:25   then he makes this self-effacement joke [TS]

00:39:28   so he then he says and you know honestly [TS]

00:39:30   like I just go where they tell me so I [TS]

00:39:33   don't know I don't you know it's his [TS]

00:39:36   kind of way of saying I don't answer my [TS]

00:39:38   own email when it is things like this [TS]

00:39:40   but when I get back to the office I'll [TS]

00:39:42   ask them to make sure that I am you know [TS]

00:39:46   right D write it down [TS]

00:39:48   nope he just remembers just remembers [TS]

00:39:51   and and the guy kind of presses his [TS]

00:39:54   attack a little bit well we'd like you [TS]

00:39:55   to be at the event and you know it's [TS]

00:39:57   very important because we're doing it [TS]

00:39:58   for the Navy and we in the you know we [TS]

00:40:00   and support our troops and Dow says you [TS]

00:40:03   know as soon as I get back a minute I'm [TS]

00:40:05   going to talk to my staff about it and [TS]

00:40:06   just sort of gracefully does his thing [TS]

00:40:08   but that is what is happening at these [TS]

00:40:12   things whether it is overt like that or [TS]

00:40:17   whether a person walks up and says hey [TS]

00:40:21   great to see you Dow and Dow knows that [TS]

00:40:24   this person wants them at their at his [TS]

00:40:27   event and he's able to send a coded [TS]

00:40:29   message to them like hey great well I'll [TS]

00:40:31   see you the LC in a week it's in a [TS]

00:40:33   situation like that it's a little bit [TS]

00:40:35   the phrase comes to mind is holding [TS]

00:40:36   court where if you actually think about [TS]

00:40:38   a regent sitting in some kind of a room [TS]

00:40:41   where people come in and come in you [TS]

00:40:43   know talk to them about things in that [TS]

00:40:45   kind of situation dow is his name [TS]

00:40:47   sheriff down no the sheriff is not down [TS]

00:40:51   who's down Dow is the executive what am [TS]

00:40:55   i sorry Dow is the executive is the [TS]

00:40:56   nominal boss well he's that person if [TS]

00:41:01   that person that person has the [TS]

00:41:03   opportunity to say at that point to this [TS]

00:41:06   person oh by the way I got your note I [TS]

00:41:10   haven't had a chance to respond to it [TS]

00:41:12   but I feel pretty sure we can get that [TS]

00:41:14   on the schedule yeah how's the [TS]

00:41:15   opportunity where he could say that but [TS]

00:41:17   if he didn't say that you asking them [TS]

00:41:19   about it you're basically doing that [TS]

00:41:20   thing where you say did you get my email [TS]

00:41:22   about about your email okay don't do [TS]

00:41:24   that don't people especially in social [TS]

00:41:27   situations it's it's such a it's such a [TS]

00:41:30   PR bad PR person thing to do that whole [TS]

00:41:33   like well if I do it in public and I'm [TS]

00:41:36   smiling like you have to be nice to me [TS]

00:41:38   yeah well and it's how I it's how a PR [TS]

00:41:41   person justifies their their bowl of [TS]

00:41:45   cereal right because they get to that's [TS]

00:41:47   my job yeah that's their job and they're [TS]

00:41:49   trying to get those Glengarry leads all [TS]

00:41:51   the time but but an event like this [TS]

00:41:55   every single person in there is holding [TS]

00:41:58   court simultaneously there are no people [TS]

00:42:01   in there that are not either with I mean [TS]

00:42:04   everybody had stars on there [TS]

00:42:05   and the sheriff has four stars on his [TS]

00:42:09   collars but he are on his collar but he [TS]

00:42:11   he reports to Dowe who is wearing [TS]

00:42:14   converse but functions yeah yeah but [TS]

00:42:17   Dalles got stars on his collar too and [TS]

00:42:19   everybody knows it it's just down Stars [TS]

00:42:22   our Seafarer pins cuz he knows how to do [TS]

00:42:24   that the only people in there that [TS]

00:42:28   aren't that don't have stars on their [TS]

00:42:30   collars are Billy Burke and James woke [TS]

00:42:33   who are there because they're rich [TS]

00:42:36   Hollywood hansoms and then me [TS]

00:42:41   yeah and I'm wearing a fucking crown [TS]

00:42:43   yeah that speaks for itself [TS]

00:42:45   it really does right a crown like you [TS]

00:42:48   because the crown says suggests I am [TS]

00:42:50   ceremonially the boss of everyone here [TS]

00:42:54   obviously we all know that that is not [TS]

00:42:56   true well I think the purpose is for the [TS]

00:42:59   purposes of this event if that has been [TS]

00:43:02   conferred on you I think people should [TS]

00:43:03   be deferential to you and they are and [TS]

00:43:06   that is part of the fun every one of [TS]

00:43:08   these Admirals said do I bow mm-hm and [TS]

00:43:11   each time I say yes and and bend the [TS]

00:43:15   knee as they do the fucking two of these [TS]

00:43:18   Admirals got down on their knees right [TS]

00:43:20   that's a good sport [TS]

00:43:22   it's a fucking good sport because [TS]

00:43:24   they're politicians - mm-hmm you don't [TS]

00:43:26   get to be a three-star general or [TS]

00:43:29   Admiral without being pulled it's a [TS]

00:43:31   little bit of what one might call social [TS]

00:43:33   power exchange you have you're having [TS]

00:43:36   fun with it [TS]

00:43:37   fucking-a mm-hmm and Mike and what I the [TS]

00:43:41   only thing I lack is a clown nose [TS]

00:43:42   because that's that's what the crown is [TS]

00:43:45   right come on and I went to great [TS]

00:43:48   lengths because because you have a lot [TS]

00:43:51   of dignity I would not call that a clown [TS]

00:43:53   nose you're a very you have a you have a [TS]

00:43:55   an excess of dignity thank you I grew my [TS]

00:43:58   beard a little bit long so that I look [TS]

00:43:59   like hanging up to it a little bit more [TS]

00:44:02   mm-hmm but but I feel like the the job [TS]

00:44:06   description that the Seafarer people had [TS]

00:44:09   in mind [TS]

00:44:10   was [TS]

00:44:12   business-casual plus a sash and a crap [TS]

00:44:17   [Music] [TS]

00:44:18   that's what they expect okay and I have [TS]

00:44:23   spent the last month putting together a [TS]

00:44:25   pretty good replica of of like tsar [TS]

00:44:33   nicholas ii tunic from just before the [TS]

00:44:38   world war i have all the elements i have [TS]

00:44:42   the you know i have the the star of [TS]

00:44:45   Constantine and I have the the [TS]

00:44:48   additional gold braid and the gigantic [TS]

00:44:51   epaulets and the you've done some [TS]

00:44:53   readings on your work here the sword [TS]

00:44:55   belt and I mean if you take a picture of [TS]

00:44:57   me and my tunic and you put it up next [TS]

00:44:59   to Tsar Nicholas he's got a lot more [TS]

00:45:01   bling [TS]

00:45:02   and each one of the nice things about [TS]

00:45:04   being a Tsar is that you can have [TS]

00:45:06   knee-high patent leather boots made for [TS]

00:45:08   yourself which would be set that I'm [TS]

00:45:11   like I'm frankly teetering on making me [TS]

00:45:14   - I just thought telling but so sweet in [TS]

00:45:16   a tunic befitting a star and that is not [TS]

00:45:20   what Seafarer expected they're not [TS]

00:45:23   displeased [TS]

00:45:23   it certainly is inhabiting the role what [TS]

00:45:26   they expected was you come in looking [TS]

00:45:29   like a golf dad basically they want to [TS]

00:45:31   golf dad with a sash lalala and and [TS]

00:45:34   that's but they got they got a little [TS]

00:45:36   more than they bargained for they wanted [TS]

00:45:38   to reach a younger demo and they brought [TS]

00:45:40   in a new king with some of some fresh [TS]

00:45:41   energy and he he brought a whole outfit [TS]

00:45:44   yeah right and it's a you know like the [TS]

00:45:46   outfit oh so fun to wear it's so fun to [TS]

00:45:49   march around in this outfit with its you [TS]

00:45:51   know the epaulets really the epaulets [TS]

00:45:54   really communicate not only that you [TS]

00:45:55   have broad shoulders but that those [TS]

00:45:57   broad shoulders are covered with [TS]

00:45:58   cthulhu's of gold which is you know like [TS]

00:46:04   the fucking Admirals [TS]

00:46:07   who are marching around this thing have [TS]

00:46:09   giant gold epaulettes [TS]

00:46:11   it's just that style has changed and the [TS]

00:46:14   epaulets now are flat and have a lot of [TS]

00:46:15   stars on them but they're still freaking [TS]

00:46:17   gold epaulettes and my epaulets are just [TS]

00:46:19   what they would have worn a hundred [TS]

00:46:20   years ago a little bit more at Gilbert [TS]

00:46:22   and Sullivan yeah I mean there's a you [TS]

00:46:25   know I don't want to look like [TS]

00:46:26   Nutcracker why'd you put that image in [TS]

00:46:35   my head that's funny like the Nutcracker [TS]

00:46:39   with some homemade makeup I am [TS]

00:46:43   essentially I am essentially there is [TS]

00:46:45   the Nutcracker the you know the the game [TS]

00:46:53   I mean initially I what I wanted was to [TS]

00:46:55   come dressed as Master and Commander and [TS]

00:47:01   it was very difficult to put that outfit [TS]

00:47:04   together so that it looked good with a [TS]

00:47:06   crown and the problem of the problem of [TS]

00:47:11   the crown is that it it's very important [TS]

00:47:17   to see fair because that's what they [TS]

00:47:22   made they made a crown and they thought [TS]

00:47:25   they were having fun with that and that [TS]

00:47:28   that's an example of like we are fun and [TS]

00:47:30   we're having fun with but with this and [TS]

00:47:32   we made a crown and a sash for our King [TS]

00:47:34   and it's an easy thing to put on [TS]

00:47:36   somebody who's wearing business casual [TS]

00:47:38   and make it make the event fun it's like [TS]

00:47:43   instant King just add crown right you [TS]

00:47:45   can walk in and you're wearing a suit [TS]

00:47:47   from Men's Wearhouse and they put the [TS]

00:47:48   sash on you you put a crown on and then [TS]

00:47:50   unite somebody everybody has a good [TS]

00:47:52   laugh yeah but Seafarer when i was a kid [TS]

00:47:56   was one of these regional festivals that [TS]

00:48:01   used to happen in every in every town [TS]

00:48:03   every small town every to local every [TS]

00:48:06   town that wasn't because they're the [TS]

00:48:08   country didn't have a unified culture [TS]

00:48:11   Seafarer was an event that where seattle [TS]

00:48:14   went off went bananas like king neptune [TS]

00:48:19   had an entourage of 20 people oh my [TS]

00:48:23   goodness they were all wearing giant [TS]

00:48:25   hats with feathers in them everyone was [TS]

00:48:29   drunk it was there were parties people [TS]

00:48:34   would really get into the spirit oh my [TS]

00:48:36   god I mean my mom talks about it she's [TS]

00:48:38   she's like [TS]

00:48:40   Seafarer was the event of the season [TS]

00:48:42   there were multiple parades there was a [TS]

00:48:45   giant parade to kick it off then there [TS]

00:48:48   was a giant parade in the middle and [TS]

00:48:49   then there was a giant parade at the end [TS]

00:48:51   that's kind of event my late father [TS]

00:48:53   would call it grab-ass [TS]

00:48:54   it was a huge grab-ass and everyone came [TS]

00:48:57   from miles around [TS]

00:48:58   the mayor and that you know and the end [TS]

00:49:01   Neptune was a was a big deal right [TS]

00:49:04   during that time during the Seafarer [TS]

00:49:07   month King Neptune never bought a drink [TS]

00:49:10   in any bar in the city there are Seafair [TS]

00:49:13   pirates and sea fair clowns and they [TS]

00:49:15   would they would come into bars and [TS]

00:49:17   restaurants and just start singing their [TS]

00:49:19   body songs and they would take you know [TS]

00:49:22   food off of people's plates and [TS]

00:49:24   everybody had a grand old wry bald time [TS]

00:49:26   and I'm sure at that during that era [TS]

00:49:29   right there was also a lot of [TS]

00:49:30   impropriety that wouldn't fly these days [TS]

00:49:33   oh I would feel fairly certain about [TS]

00:49:35   that and so that you know that is kind [TS]

00:49:38   of taken out of it right as time goes on [TS]

00:49:40   the mayor does not get publicly drunk [TS]

00:49:43   during sea fair but watching them in old [TS]

00:49:49   black-and-white photos like watching the [TS]

00:49:51   town just go nuts and when I got when I [TS]

00:49:54   was appointed King Neptune my brother [TS]

00:49:56   Bart sent me a text and he said dad [TS]

00:49:59   would be so proud oh that's nice [TS]

00:50:02   dad loved sea fair and this is a you [TS]

00:50:05   know this is an example of the kind of [TS]

00:50:09   honorary position in the City of Seattle [TS]

00:50:12   that my dad thrived on and no member of [TS]

00:50:17   my family even in all of their many [TS]

00:50:21   splendors no one ever was King Neptune [TS]

00:50:23   before my dad and my my uncle al and my [TS]

00:50:28   uncle Junius and george alfred caldwell [TS]

00:50:31   rodchester before him none of them ever [TS]

00:50:33   were afforded or recorded this honor [TS]

00:50:38   so I don't want to show up in business [TS]

00:50:40   casual and have a crown I wanted to come [TS]

00:50:44   dressed as Russell Crowe and Master and [TS]

00:50:46   Commander hmm but it but you can't take [TS]

00:50:49   that big Napoleon hat off and put a [TS]

00:50:51   crown on you just look dumb but you can [TS]

00:50:54   come as Tsar Nicholas or King George the [TS]

00:51:00   fifth or a little bit less Kaiser [TS]

00:51:04   Wilhelm but you can you can come as [TS]

00:51:07   those guys and it and it it looks it [TS]

00:51:12   looks the part right because they were [TS]

00:51:13   obviously like commanders of their [TS]

00:51:14   navies to you you knew that Tsar [TS]

00:51:18   Nicholas George the fifth and Kaiser [TS]

00:51:21   Wilhelm were all first cousins right in [TS]

00:51:25   thinking about what you were saying I [TS]

00:51:26   was in my head something was swinging [TS]

00:51:28   around about Germans there seemed [TS]

00:51:31   something isn't there a lot of dramatic [TS]

00:51:34   things running through a lot of [TS]

00:51:36   different countries like a lot of the [TS]

00:51:39   royal family has roots in Germany well [TS]

00:51:44   they're all they're all related right [TS]

00:51:46   the British royal family is a German [TS]

00:51:48   house I seem to remember in that in the [TS]

00:51:51   crown I remember that being kind of kind [TS]

00:51:54   of a big deal like one of the one of her [TS]

00:51:55   relatives still mostly spoke German and [TS]

00:51:57   stuff like that well sure and the thing [TS]

00:51:59   is the leaders of those three nations at [TS]

00:52:02   that time 1914 the King of England the [TS]

00:52:06   George is George v Elizabeth's father [TS]

00:52:13   grandfather okay right I think [TS]

00:52:17   yeah all right well they were all so all [TS]

00:52:21   three of those yes either you're right [TS]

00:52:24   I'm sorry yeah I think you're right the [TS]

00:52:27   Kaiser of Prussia the the Czar of Russia [TS]

00:52:31   and the King of England were all first [TS]

00:52:33   cousins and they were all grandsons of [TS]

00:52:35   Queen Victoria Wow [TS]

00:52:37   and while Queen Victoria was alive they [TS]

00:52:42   were all like oh and they and they look [TS]

00:52:44   almost exactly alike like George the [TS]

00:52:47   fifth and Tsar Nicholas look like twins [TS]

00:52:50   you see them next to each other twins [TS]

00:52:52   twins twins and no nobody in the family [TS]

00:52:57   liked Kaiser Wilhelm he was the cousin [TS]

00:53:01   that nobody liked how come he was a jerk [TS]

00:53:05   okay he was like I think that he had [TS]

00:53:09   when he was being born did there was a [TS]

00:53:13   complication and one and you know it was [TS]

00:53:17   it was all olden times so they weren't [TS]

00:53:19   able to solve complications in being [TS]

00:53:22   born did like on the spot and one of the [TS]

00:53:25   results was that the Kaiser was had a [TS]

00:53:28   deformed arm that it was like Gary [TS]

00:53:32   Berghof right he he had one hand that he [TS]

00:53:36   didn't like to show Erbs palsy Gary [TS]

00:53:38   burghoff had an arm situation Gary [TS]

00:53:41   burghoff if you I mean in in the ten [TS]

00:53:44   years that we all watched mash every day [TS]

00:53:46   we never ever noticed that Gary burghoff [TS]

00:53:48   has one hand that is I think much [TS]

00:53:52   smaller than the other I had no oh my [TS]

00:53:55   god there it is I had no idea and he [TS]

00:53:58   Gary [TS]

00:53:59   Birkhoff who is by all accounts a [TS]

00:54:01   reprehend reprehensible person oh no I'm [TS]

00:54:03   so sorry you hear that is also a great [TS]

00:54:05   drummer [TS]

00:54:06   thank you so much he's a phenomenal [TS]

00:54:09   drummer but everybody I don't so you [TS]

00:54:12   weren't around maybe you were your [TS]

00:54:15   attention was elsewhere you were [TS]

00:54:16   probably watching Apple announcement [TS]

00:54:19   events yeah developer conferences but [TS]

00:54:23   at some point in the early-mid Twitter [TS]

00:54:26   period [TS]

00:54:27   Gary Birkhoff appeared on Twitter and he [TS]

00:54:29   was one of those people that went from [TS]

00:54:32   having 50 followers to 15,000 followers [TS]

00:54:35   in two days because he was on Twitter [TS]

00:54:38   just taking a dump on Alan Alda every [TS]

00:54:42   day I see and was just he was going he [TS]

00:54:45   was doing a James Woods he was just [TS]

00:54:47   going crazy and it was oh I know oh no [TS]

00:54:52   this is not good it sounds like oh I had [TS]

00:54:53   some drinks it was the type of thing [TS]

00:54:55   where Andy Richter was right in there [TS]

00:54:59   you know like everybody was enjoying [TS]

00:55:00   gary burghoff [TS]

00:55:02   imploding online I love a Charlie Sheen [TS]

00:55:05   I most of all right but but it caused me [TS]

00:55:09   then to read some oral histories of mash [TS]

00:55:11   and my favorite quote was somebody I [TS]

00:55:15   don't know who said Gary Birkhoff was by [TS]

00:55:18   far the best actor on mash he was doing [TS]

00:55:22   a genius performance because he was [TS]

00:55:25   creating a character that was beloved by [TS]

00:55:27   everyone in the country when he himself [TS]

00:55:29   was like the most awful man alive and [TS]

00:55:34   was going up to Charles Nelson Reilly [TS]

00:55:36   Herve Villechaize no one is spared no [TS]

00:55:40   you see what's really on Olsen Reilly [TS]

00:55:43   that's no good well it's like Gary also [TS]

00:55:46   is is not a not a tall man and yeah [TS]

00:55:50   thought he was lumped in there but so I [TS]

00:55:54   think the Kaiser because of his because [TS]

00:55:57   of his damaged arm had a chip on his [TS]

00:55:59   shoulder and the Czar and the King [TS]

00:56:02   looked so much alike and were very [TS]

00:56:05   chummy like they vacationed together [TS]

00:56:07   there was a lot of slap and tickle [TS]

00:56:08   happening and the Kaiser felt left out [TS]

00:56:12   but they all stayed very they all stayed [TS]

00:56:16   very you know like pally [TS]

00:56:19   because all three of them loved Queen [TS]

00:56:22   Victoria their grandmother and there are [TS]

00:56:25   all these pictures of them kind of like [TS]

00:56:26   curled up at her feet while she pets [TS]

00:56:29   their hair [TS]

00:56:30   and when she died almost immediately the [TS]

00:56:36   cousins were like they all squared off [TS]

00:56:38   and of course they started a world war [TS]

00:56:43   not that long after mm-hmm [TS]

00:56:46   where and so the Kaiser and the king and [TS]

00:56:49   the Czar are fuckin first cousins and [TS]

00:56:51   they are they're like fighting this [TS]

00:56:54   enormous conflict where millions died [TS]

00:56:58   over some stupid shit and halfway [TS]

00:57:03   through the war the Tsar is deposed by [TS]

00:57:07   revolution and then at the end of the [TS]

00:57:10   war the Kaiser loses his crown and there [TS]

00:57:16   is no there is no monarch of Germany [TS]

00:57:18   anymore it becomes a whatever funk [TS]

00:57:21   semi-functional republic and the king of [TS]

00:57:23   england is the last man standing so I [TS]

00:57:28   guess really I'm really I'm dressing [TS]

00:57:30   like King George the fifth I don't want [TS]

00:57:32   to end up like the Tsar it's gonna be a [TS]

00:57:37   busy week [TS]

00:57:38   I have like six events a day oh my [TS]

00:57:41   goodness that's too many events at six [TS]

00:57:43   events a day Merlin and Wednesday is [TS]

00:57:45   supposed to be a hundred and three [TS]

00:57:47   degrees in Seattle that's a hot day to [TS]

00:57:49   be the king well I'll see I don't want [TS]

00:57:51   to wear my tunic on that day I'm gonna [TS]

00:57:53   that's the day that I'm going business [TS]

00:57:54   casual mm-hmm I'm going I'm going cruise [TS]

00:57:57   ship casual on Wednesday this is another [TS]

00:58:00   nice thing though is that you are I mean [TS]

00:58:03   obviously you've put a lot of your own [TS]

00:58:05   special preparation into this particular [TS]

00:58:08   costume but like you've got a lot of [TS]

00:58:11   stuff just sitting around that would be [TS]

00:58:12   appropriate for almost any event like [TS]

00:58:14   you're you seem like you're pretty good [TS]

00:58:16   to go yeah as long as no one I I think [TS]

00:58:21   that I have put myself now finally in a [TS]

00:58:24   place that I've been that I've been [TS]

00:58:27   shooting for my whole life which is a [TS]

00:58:31   place with particularly in in wardrobe [TS]

00:58:34   terms where whatever the invitation says [TS]

00:58:40   is the Wardrobe [TS]

00:58:41   I know that not only can I can I meet [TS]

00:58:47   their expectations but that I will be [TS]

00:58:51   able to show up in my own version of a [TS]

00:58:53   thing like if it sells if it says [TS]

00:58:56   cocktail formal or it says semi-formal [TS]

00:58:59   or if it says I mean no one ever doesn't [TS]

00:59:01   event that says that that says formal [TS]

00:59:05   and means actual formal like the the [TS]

00:59:09   nicest event in the country you can show [TS]

00:59:12   up to an a rented tuxedo anymore but you [TS]

00:59:15   might say black tie or white tie right I [TS]

00:59:17   I do not think that you will ever see a [TS]

00:59:19   thing invite where you are invited white [TS]

00:59:21   tie I mean unless it's a Royal Wedding [TS]

00:59:23   which no one's no one listening to this [TS]

00:59:26   podcast is likely to get invited to [TS]

00:59:28   least of all me yeah although you never [TS]

00:59:31   know you never know [TS]

00:59:32   I mean maybe Boris Johnson is listening [TS]

00:59:34   to this but other times the dress code [TS]

00:59:36   they give is a combination of two things [TS]

00:59:41   on the one hand it's like hey you don't [TS]

00:59:45   want to look like a ding-a-ling so make [TS]

00:59:46   sure you dress at least up to this bar [TS]

00:59:48   but it's also a kind of like a [TS]

00:59:50   consolation of saying don't worry like [TS]

00:59:52   you don't have to wear a necktie to this [TS]

00:59:54   right I think you're trying to give you [TS]

00:59:56   something to say like to provide comfort [TS]

00:59:57   ultimately to say like if you're in the [TS]

00:59:59   range of this [TS]

00:59:59   range of this [TS]

01:00:00   kind of garb you'll be fine right and [TS]

01:00:02   that is antithetical to the idea of [TS]

01:00:05   having a dress code right I mean that's [TS]

01:00:07   a that is a modern that's a modern [TS]

01:00:09   problem to say like here's the dress [TS]

01:00:12   code don't feel bad [TS]

01:00:14   you get to where you have to wear it up [TS]

01:00:18   to this point but don't worry you can it [TS]

01:00:21   you won't be uncomfortable poor person [TS]

01:00:23   yeah and after an hour you can take your [TS]

01:00:25   shoes off [TS]

01:00:25   yeah and in the past right a dress code [TS]

01:00:28   was almost almost explicitly like you [TS]

01:00:32   are going to be incredibly uncomfortable [TS]

01:00:34   this is not negotiable here is what the [TS]

01:00:40   expectation is and you will come correct [TS]

01:00:43   and that's gone from the world unless [TS]

01:00:46   you're invited to something hosted at [TS]

01:00:48   the White House or something right like [TS]

01:00:49   like you go you go to a wedding where [TS]

01:00:52   the where the people are putting on the [TS]

01:00:54   wedding and they want everybody to be [TS]

01:00:56   like really really formal and you see a [TS]

01:00:59   bunch of guys in blue suits yeah I mean [TS]

01:01:01   if it doesn't if the if the title of the [TS]

01:01:03   event you know you look out for words [TS]

01:01:05   like gala gala is a good indication you [TS]

01:01:09   should up your game a little bit right [TS]

01:01:12   but for a lot of people in the world [TS]

01:01:15   that is a blue suit that's as high as [TS]

01:01:16   they go blue suit with with the tie the [TS]

01:01:18   ceiling I've been go any higher than [TS]

01:01:20   that or a rented tux a mule an [TS]

01:01:23   ill-fitting rented tux [TS]

01:01:25   yeah so but but in most cases like [TS]

01:01:30   formal I think formal involves like [TS]

01:01:34   actual formal at night is white tie [TS]

01:01:40   white waistcoat like when was last time [TS]

01:01:44   you saw that that wasn't at it wasn't a [TS]

01:01:47   member of a wedding party well and you [TS]

01:01:49   have to be careful that you don't get in [TS]

01:01:50   too jokey frat brother Brothers style [TS]

01:01:52   formality right black black tie is after [TS]

01:01:57   six is that right [TS]

01:01:58   well white tie is like the super formal [TS]

01:02:01   one right right time in olden times [TS]

01:02:06   white tie was for dinner and black tie [TS]

01:02:09   was like what you wore [TS]

01:02:12   like then I mean a morning coat well [TS]

01:02:16   this is when you white ties when you [TS]

01:02:17   wear like a Jiminy Cricket outfit yeah [TS]

01:02:19   at dinner every night I mean this is [TS]

01:02:21   like this is like old Oh like 1910 and [TS]

01:02:24   in England but you didn't show up with a [TS]

01:02:27   Black Tie tuxedo at night at a gala for [TS]

01:02:32   sure but now you do now that's the [TS]

01:02:35   that's the peak and there are all kinds [TS]

01:02:39   of rules right you don't wear a white [TS]

01:02:40   dinner jacket unless you're in the [TS]

01:02:42   tropics but people love the look of [TS]

01:02:46   white dinner jackets and so now you see [TS]

01:02:48   white dinner jackets above the tropics [TS]

01:02:52   and also you don't wear a white dinner [TS]

01:02:54   jacket in the winter hmm but people do [TS]

01:02:58   now because there's a costume for speed [TS]

01:03:00   since most people are having fun with it [TS]

01:03:02   right they don't under they don't know [TS]

01:03:04   what the they don't know that it [TS]

01:03:06   actually signifies a Kemp some kind of [TS]

01:03:09   like archaic social order but so if I'm [TS]

01:03:14   invited to anything up to white tie [TS]

01:03:17   which I cannot accomplish like Paul if [TS]

01:03:19   Tompkins can accomplish white tie and [TS]

01:03:20   wears it sometimes min wears it always [TS]

01:03:24   as a costume so he wears it [TS]

01:03:26   inappropriately in that it's too formal [TS]

01:03:28   for some events he goes to but that's [TS]

01:03:30   his bit he's like a he's like a friendly [TS]

01:03:31   children's television host yeah that is [TS]

01:03:34   that's his bit huh but almost anything [TS]

01:03:37   else that you would invite me to I can [TS]

01:03:38   come not only appropriately but also in [TS]

01:03:41   my own vernacular right in my own [TS]

01:03:45   vernacular precisely so you know I can [TS]

01:03:48   come to a black-tie event in 1959 or in [TS]

01:03:52   1977 or then also the one that is just [TS]

01:03:57   the appropriate one [TS]

01:03:59   can I just I read you the description of [TS]

01:04:00   white tie from the internet science site [TS]

01:04:02   here according to the British etiquette [TS]

01:04:04   guide Debrett's of which I do not own a [TS]

01:04:08   copy the central opponents are [TS]

01:04:09   components of full evening dress from [TS]

01:04:11   men are a white Marcella shirt which is [TS]

01:04:14   a kind of like a weave of shirt Marcella [TS]

01:04:17   shirt with the detachable wing collar [TS]

01:04:19   and single cuffs fastened with studs and [TS]

01:04:21   cufflinks the eponymous white Marcella [TS]

01:04:24   bowtie is worn around the collar while [TS]

01:04:26   marcella waistcoat is worn over the [TS]

01:04:28   shirt over this is worn a black single [TS]

01:04:31   breasted bar Athiya that's like a very [TS]

01:04:33   gameofthrones name Bharathi awal or [TS]

01:04:36   ultrafine herringbone tail coat with [TS]

01:04:38   silk peak lapels were not done the [TS]

01:04:40   trousers have double braiding down the [TS]

01:04:42   outside of both legs while the correct [TS]

01:04:44   shoes are patent leather or highly [TS]

01:04:46   polished black dress shoes although a [TS]

01:04:48   white scarf remains popular in winter [TS]

01:04:50   the traditional white gloves top hats [TS]

01:04:52   canes and cloaks are now rare it's the [TS]

01:04:56   end of the menses yes and so you lose [TS]

01:04:58   the Canes you lose the Canes and cloak [TS]

01:05:02   because in cloaks nak seem to like Tori [TS]

01:05:07   and that's two costumes you look a [TS]

01:05:08   little bit like you know the monopoly [TS]

01:05:10   man it was like them enough women but [TS]

01:05:13   single cuffs not French cuffs like there [TS]

01:05:18   are a lot of mistakes that we make in [TS]

01:05:20   thinking that the thing that is more [TS]

01:05:22   ornate is also the most fancy like [TS]

01:05:27   you'll see a lot of people a lot of men [TS]

01:05:28   wear their wingtips to put wingtips with [TS]

01:05:33   the tux because the wingtips have more [TS]

01:05:35   fancy on them they are more bling they [TS]

01:05:38   got more bling but in fact when you get [TS]

01:05:40   up to this level the fanciest is the [TS]

01:05:43   plainest so you're not meant to wear [TS]

01:05:46   wingtips with a with a tuck so you want [TS]

01:05:48   your plainest black shoes and it should [TS]

01:05:51   be no except first right yeah that's [TS]

01:05:53   right [TS]

01:05:55   and and not French cups but single cuffs [TS]

01:05:58   and so forth and so on and all this [TS]

01:06:00   stuff is like that all signals whether [TS]

01:06:02   or not you know and that's a huge part [TS]

01:06:05   of what dress codes and what dress even [TS]

01:06:08   is it signals whether or not you know [TS]

01:06:10   what things are and now of course we [TS]

01:06:14   think oh those things are unimportant or [TS]

01:06:16   those that are worse those things are [TS]

01:06:18   enforcing a social hierarchy that we [TS]

01:06:21   abhor but those things are also part of [TS]

01:06:28   our and this is the word that you know [TS]

01:06:30   this is the bell ringing word right it's [TS]

01:06:32   part of our patrimony pound sign not all [TS]

01:06:35   tuxedos right pound signs you know wears [TS]

01:06:38   why is it patrimony mm-hmm that's I am [TS]

01:06:41   but but it's that stuff interests me not [TS]

01:06:45   just because it's like cultural heritage [TS]

01:06:48   but also because I love codes you know I [TS]

01:06:51   love social codes I love in I love [TS]

01:06:55   interpreting codes I love seeing when [TS]

01:06:57   other people like Dow Constantine [TS]

01:07:00   wearing those fucking ribbons is and the [TS]

01:07:04   converse is expressing a knowledge of [TS]

01:07:11   ultimately of people and of stories and [TS]

01:07:15   of the stories that people want to tell [TS]

01:07:16   and that's what all this stuff is about [TS]

01:07:18   and I admire it when I see it [TS]

01:07:21   and honestly I feel like the single [TS]

01:07:25   piece of scotch tape on the sheriff's [TS]

01:07:27   gun was a thing that he initially put on [TS]

01:07:33   there because a screw fell out of his [TS]

01:07:34   pistol and then he liked what it [TS]

01:07:37   symbolized he's a man of the people he [TS]

01:07:41   has a piece of tape on his gun and no [TS]

01:07:44   one has said anything about it he's been [TS]

01:07:46   wearing that tape on his gun for fucking [TS]

01:07:49   ever I bet because looking at the tape [TS]

01:07:51   it had been on there a long time it was [TS]

01:07:52   all it was all used and it was put on [TS]

01:07:56   there very you know not not with any [TS]

01:07:59   attempt to be neat it was very like slap [TS]

01:08:02   on some tape he'd been wearing that like [TS]

01:08:05   a pin on his lapel as a way of signaling [TS]

01:08:09   so many things and someone finally said [TS]

01:08:12   something about it and he was thrilled [TS]

01:08:14   and his deputy was thrilled [TS]

01:08:16   all these little flags that we have all [TS]

01:08:19   these flag lapels a flag pins on our [TS]

01:08:22   lapels that are that are ways of saying [TS]

01:08:24   like this is me like a sheriff can't [TS]

01:08:27   bling out his outfit it already is [TS]

01:08:29   completely composed I'm not sure if Sam [TS]

01:08:31   you know he doesn't have any there's no [TS]

01:08:34   opportunity for him to put them even a [TS]

01:08:36   even a flower in [TS]

01:08:37   lapel because it would be out of uniform [TS]

01:08:39   huh but he can put a little tape on the [TS]

01:08:41   handle of his gun like a like a lace [TS]

01:08:46   brassiere [TS]

01:08:47   now at some point do you think you [TS]

01:08:50   should get that fixed I mean like it's [TS]

01:08:54   fun he's having fun with it which I like [TS]

01:08:56   I like that he's doing some bling and [TS]

01:08:58   he's got his his version of a black [TS]

01:09:00   brassiere but like damn certain points [TS]

01:09:01   shouldn't police officer make sure his [TS]

01:09:02   gun doesn't have tape on it and that's a [TS]

01:09:05   throwaway piece I think they call it I'm [TS]

01:09:07   hoping I'm hoping that this Sheriff has [TS]

01:09:11   enough insulating sheriffs around him he [TS]

01:09:15   has three or four there were the shit [TS]

01:09:17   there there are the deputies you see and [TS]

01:09:19   there that are the deputies you don't [TS]

01:09:21   see and in Seattle at least in in in [TS]

01:09:26   Palin around with Dow his driver and his [TS]

01:09:30   the deputy that is assigned to shadow [TS]

01:09:33   Dow is always a woman and there and at [TS]

01:09:38   this event [TS]

01:09:39   standing sort of back with my crown on [TS]

01:09:41   that's another fun game is to pick out [TS]

01:09:44   the people who are there because they [TS]

01:09:46   are carrying guns because they're [TS]

01:09:49   shadowing somebody right because a lot [TS]

01:09:51   of the people at this event have a [TS]

01:09:53   shadow and the shadow isn't standing at [TS]

01:09:56   their elbow the shadow is standing in a [TS]

01:09:58   corner somewhere and they will have an [TS]

01:10:01   earpiece or they won't but they will [TS]

01:10:05   definitely have a little twirly cable on [TS]

01:10:07   it like you're like a Secret Service [TS]

01:10:08   type situation yeah so there were four [TS]

01:10:10   of those people at this event but there [TS]

01:10:13   were also other people that didn't have [TS]

01:10:14   twirl ease but that had on you know like [TS]

01:10:18   bulges in their jackets and in King [TS]

01:10:23   County at least it seems like often the [TS]

01:10:30   like secret detectives the ones the ones [TS]

01:10:36   who are standing at one remove are women [TS]

01:10:38   because I think that the county [TS]

01:10:41   recognizes that bad guys are there you [TS]

01:10:46   know the the goal of somebody's standing [TS]

01:10:48   there with a pistol is that you may not [TS]

01:10:50   be notice [TS]

01:10:51   mm-hmm and bad guys are gonna be less [TS]

01:10:54   likely to think that the sheriff is [TS]

01:10:56   being shadowed by a deputy who's a woman [TS]

01:10:59   and that that's an extra layer of [TS]

01:11:02   badassery that's super badass like Pussy [TS]

01:11:06   Galore like you have your whole like [TS]

01:11:07   your squad of action people that's [TS]

01:11:11   really cool and so when the when the the [TS]

01:11:14   gang was all finally arrayed on our on [TS]

01:11:19   our big like parade of Corvettes which [TS]

01:11:24   is how we were going through the parade [TS]

01:11:25   and the mayor the the beleaguered mayor [TS]

01:11:28   of Seattle also arrived and got in his [TS]

01:11:31   Corvette and I was very interested to [TS]

01:11:33   know because it's a parade and there's [TS]

01:11:36   very little separation between you and [TS]

01:11:39   the crowd in a parade yeah as he started [TS]

01:11:41   having a rough time well I mean what [TS]

01:11:43   what he is accused of he will never not [TS]

01:11:46   have a rough time I mean I know you've [TS]

01:11:49   been acquainted with him I'm trying to [TS]

01:11:50   be classy about it but he's he's had [TS]

01:11:52   kind of some a challenge our current [TS]

01:11:55   mayor did not run for re-election even [TS]

01:11:57   though he was until this scandal [TS]

01:12:00   presumed to be a shoo-in he he bowed out [TS]

01:12:04   of the race and now there are 21 people [TS]

01:12:06   running for mayor of Seattle and I [TS]

01:12:07   should have done it it should have done [TS]

01:12:08   just film no no please don't even for 22 [TS]

01:12:11   it's done but but so he's in the parade [TS]

01:12:13   Dow is in a parade they're both riding [TS]

01:12:15   sort of next to each other in their [TS]

01:12:17   Corvettes awkward and buff and it's very [TS]

01:12:20   awkward because Dow is a very successful [TS]

01:12:22   politician who will be a national [TS]

01:12:24   politician at one point in his life for [TS]

01:12:26   sure I mean unless he makes a real [TS]

01:12:30   misstep which I don't foresee him making [TS]

01:12:34   but so I walk up in my tunic to their [TS]

01:12:39   cars to say good luck gentlemen have a [TS]

01:12:41   great parade on behalf of King Neptune [TS]

01:12:43   of Seafarer you know have a good time in [TS]

01:12:46   your parade and as I step to their car [TS]

01:12:52   you you notice that the secret people [TS]

01:12:57   the secret deputies I like the secret [TS]

01:13:02   people I like the secret people they [TS]

01:13:04   reveal the [TS]

01:13:04   selves because out of the stout of the [TS]

01:13:07   scrum of people who are kind of milling [TS]

01:13:09   around I walk up to these cars fairly [TS]

01:13:12   quickly because I'm just like mayor good [TS]

01:13:16   luck have a good race you no doubt good [TS]

01:13:18   luck have a fun have a fun time I'm just [TS]

01:13:21   sort of moving quickly to these cars [TS]

01:13:23   which are which are surrounded with a [TS]

01:13:27   bubble of nobody in them because again [TS]

01:13:30   sort of the presumption is like there's [TS]

01:13:33   a bubble around these people yeah an [TS]

01:13:35   abundance of caution and so out of the [TS]

01:13:38   out of the the crowd that's on the [TS]

01:13:40   periphery I step to these cars and those [TS]

01:13:43   four people step forward one step and [TS]

01:13:46   it's not a thing you would notice mm-hmm [TS]

01:13:49   unless you were conscious of them being [TS]

01:13:52   there already and knowing that they are [TS]

01:13:53   all four of them vigilant enough to say [TS]

01:13:55   who's this fucking guy you move in a [TS]

01:13:58   move you start you start moving toward [TS]

01:13:59   didn't Daenerys on on the crown a few [TS]

01:14:01   people are gonna change positions that's [TS]

01:14:02   right they all change position to get a [TS]

01:14:04   little bit better sight line yeah and [TS]

01:14:06   and they see the mayor [TS]

01:14:07   you'd recognise me and put out his hand [TS]

01:14:09   and say hey you know thanks and and who [TS]

01:14:14   our mare is he's like you know he we'd [TS]

01:14:18   we don't know each other exactly [TS]

01:14:20   socially but certainly we know each [TS]

01:14:21   other and he's like hi great to see [TS]

01:14:23   thanks for your support he didn't [TS]

01:14:25   actually say that but no really no [TS]

01:14:27   that's just in his eyes it's all he [TS]

01:14:28   knows how to do and then I was like [TS]

01:14:31   thanks you know and so the the sheriff's [TS]

01:14:33   take a step forward or the the secret [TS]

01:14:35   people take a step forward but they know [TS]

01:14:36   they don't have to take a second step [TS]

01:14:37   forward because they they see then I'm [TS]

01:14:40   being acknowledged and recognized and [TS]

01:14:42   welcome you're good mm-hm [TS]

01:14:44   if they I think I probably almost [TS]

01:14:47   certainly that Dow and the mayor both [TS]

01:14:49   have a a way of posturing themselves [TS]

01:14:53   which says secret people would you [TS]

01:14:56   arrive with a quickness you know stiffen [TS]

01:15:00   up a little bit or something and they [TS]

01:15:01   know oh it's go time [TS]

01:15:02   yeah they stiffen up or they look over [TS]

01:15:04   their shoulder or in some way that [TS]

01:15:06   recoil mmm-hmm where that where the [TS]

01:15:09   deputies will arrive on the scene but [TS]

01:15:12   all of that dance it's so it's just so [TS]

01:15:14   interesting and so [TS]

01:15:18   you know what the hierarchy among people [TS]

01:15:21   with stars on their collars is mmm-hmm [TS]

01:15:25   there were two Admirals and I wanted to [TS]

01:15:28   know who reported to the other and so I [TS]

01:15:29   walked up to one Admiral and I said [TS]

01:15:31   who's you both that you both have three [TS]

01:15:34   stars [TS]

01:15:35   so who's the Kahuna and the guys like [TS]

01:15:38   what [TS]

01:15:39   and I'm like well he controls a carrier [TS]

01:15:41   Strike Group you are commander of [TS]

01:15:44   Pacific Fleet Operations who gets the [TS]

01:15:48   bigger slice of cake at the at the [TS]

01:15:51   reception and the guy that I'm talking [TS]

01:15:54   to his wife starts to laugh and he said [TS]

01:15:57   well we're in different we are different [TS]

01:16:00   where we report to different we both [TS]

01:16:02   report to the same guy like he doesn't [TS]

01:16:04   report to me I don't report to him yeah [TS]

01:16:05   yeah yeah but what's the real story [TS]

01:16:07   exactly I said yeah okay so he brings [TS]

01:16:10   his carrier Strike Force into your base [TS]

01:16:13   if you're mad at him do you get to say [TS]

01:16:16   like all right well sorry we're out of [TS]

01:16:18   macaroni and cheese you don't we're not [TS]

01:16:20   we're not gonna resupply you because of [TS]

01:16:23   something and his wife is just fuckin [TS]

01:16:25   cracking up at this point he's like well [TS]

01:16:27   no first of all I'm not in charge of [TS]

01:16:29   macaroni and cheese but yeah second and [TS]

01:16:39   I said so what so it's the military [TS]

01:16:42   there's no equal no one's equal to [TS]

01:16:45   anybody that's what makes it the [TS]

01:16:47   military it's like it's like when you [TS]

01:16:48   get a pack of dogs yeah you can't write [TS]

01:16:50   any question you got to know like here's [TS]

01:16:52   your nose here's this but let's go and [TS]

01:16:55   so finally he says well he has seniority [TS]

01:16:59   and I said you mean he enlisted first or [TS]

01:17:03   he was promoted to Admiral first oh boy [TS]

01:17:06   you're not gonna let it go are you no no [TS]

01:17:08   I want to know and his and his wife is [TS]

01:17:11   is having the best time and he is he may [TS]

01:17:16   not have thought of this for a long time [TS]

01:17:18   it's so unconscious in them that he [TS]

01:17:22   might not have had to break this down [TS]

01:17:24   but he says both he joined before I did [TS]

01:17:27   and he was promoted [TS]

01:17:30   right before I was and I said but [TS]

01:17:32   doesn't that make you the wunderkind [TS]

01:17:35   like you are you're younger than him and [TS]

01:17:39   promoted to the same rank as him and he [TS]

01:17:42   ran outside agitator john roderick and [TS]

01:17:44   he shows no he shows no emotion except [TS]

01:17:47   just the slightest crinkle in his eye [TS]

01:17:51   just the slightest flash at being [TS]

01:17:55   complimented and at being recognized as [TS]

01:17:58   as having made that accomplishment at a [TS]

01:18:01   younger age [TS]

01:18:01   mmm-hmm but he said that's not how it [TS]

01:18:04   works its seniority works according to [TS]

01:18:08   like age and i said thank you admiral [TS]

01:18:13   you've Claire you've you know you've [TS]

01:18:15   clarified things for me today and he the [TS]

01:18:17   thing is both of these guys are sitting [TS]

01:18:18   in the backseat of their Corvettes like [TS]

01:18:20   I'm walking down the lawn okay they [TS]

01:18:22   can't get away and they're kind of not [TS]

01:18:24   supposed to say I don't want to talk to [TS]

01:18:27   you anymore no cuz I'm the fucking King [TS]

01:18:29   you're the King I have to talk to you [TS]

01:18:30   and they're both sitting next to their [TS]

01:18:32   wives which is a different power dynamic [TS]

01:18:34   it liar hundred percent right I mean [TS]

01:18:38   like we can all we can all we're doing [TS]

01:18:40   our little boys thing together our men [TS]

01:18:42   talking to men thing like you know [TS]

01:18:44   nobody's gonna Pierce but like they each [TS]

01:18:46   have their own court jester that [TS]

01:18:47   actually is running the court yes and [TS]

01:18:49   they are and the wives are really [TS]

01:18:51   enjoying this kind of thing right this [TS]

01:19:01   they're the Admiral except not not at [TS]

01:19:04   home I'm sure that's true I'm sure [TS]

01:19:07   that's their long-running gag but I'm [TS]

01:19:09   also sure probably every single one of [TS]

01:19:10   them owes their wife so much can you [TS]

01:19:13   imagine all the bullshit that their [TS]

01:19:14   family has gone through so that they [TS]

01:19:16   could have that career all you have to [TS]

01:19:18   do is watch the right stuff right oh I [TS]

01:19:20   mean rather we were talking about that [TS]

01:19:21   just this morning wouldn't know it was [TS]

01:19:22   Sam Shepard in that yes okay that's why [TS]

01:19:24   I mention it this morning because I've [TS]

01:19:25   seen dally [TS]

01:19:26   she loves Apollo 13 but we've never seen [TS]

01:19:29   the right stuff and I was like we got to [TS]

01:19:31   watch that movie it's long it's so good [TS]

01:19:33   it's really long he played those ladies [TS]

01:19:36   tough those are tough ladies they are [TS]

01:19:39   tough and they were tough in in in [TS]

01:19:41   precisely the era where [TS]

01:19:43   they were expected to behave a certain [TS]

01:19:46   way that you know that didn't allow them [TS]

01:19:49   really to to be assertive publicly [TS]

01:19:53   assertive it was a bit like like for [TS]

01:19:57   generations or even millennia like they [TS]

01:19:59   self-organized not de but any any group [TS]

01:20:01   like that like self-organized is in the [TS]

01:20:04   CIA we're like this is you know this is [TS]

01:20:06   how the village gets things accomplished [TS]

01:20:07   yeah [TS]

01:20:08   yes still very related very related [TS]

01:20:12   structures in like and you put in your [TS]

01:20:13   anecdote about the the Admirals and the [TS]

01:20:16   Corvettes you know it's like the part [TS]

01:20:19   that makes that awkward is that they [TS]

01:20:22   know the answer to that question [TS]

01:20:25   I bet I mean they Co they feel it oh [TS]

01:20:27   yeah I mean they feel it in there you [TS]

01:20:29   walk into a room and anybody you give [TS]

01:20:31   any of those guys two drinks and he [TS]

01:20:33   could force rank that entire room [TS]

01:20:34   without even thinking about it he could [TS]

01:20:36   he could fully force rank that room and [TS]

01:20:38   and I bet you most people in the room [TS]

01:20:40   could do the exact same thing people [TS]

01:20:41   given the same amount of information and [TS]

01:20:43   expertise could go up absolutely top [TS]

01:20:45   guys I'm Katherine Katherine Oh all the [TS]

01:20:47   way all the way down the line it's just [TS]

01:20:49   that it's awkward to talk about it and [TS]

01:20:52   then how would you if you if they were [TS]

01:20:54   to say that to you how would they [TS]

01:20:56   support that in a way that didn't sound [TS]

01:20:58   like mumbo-jumbo well and there are [TS]

01:21:00   people who are listening right now who [TS]

01:21:02   are in the United States Armed Forces [TS]

01:21:03   and who are officers and who will [TS]

01:21:06   probably report to us in greater detail [TS]

01:21:09   but I wonder whether when those two [TS]

01:21:11   Admirals meet coming through the Rye [TS]

01:21:14   mm-hmm whether the junior Admiral [TS]

01:21:19   salutes first because they both know [TS]

01:21:24   like I'm pretty sure all the three-star [TS]

01:21:28   all the three stars out there and I [TS]

01:21:31   think they are lieutenant Admirals or [TS]

01:21:33   something I don't know exactly which [TS]

01:21:35   which it is I'm getting yelled at about [TS]

01:21:37   that but I think they probably all know [TS]

01:21:40   each other almost certainly they know [TS]

01:21:41   each other they are there interacting [TS]

01:21:43   with each other socially and [TS]

01:21:45   professionally and when they see one [TS]

01:21:47   another whether the junior one even [TS]

01:21:50   junior by two days [TS]

01:21:54   whether they know to salute first I [TS]

01:21:57   don't know that is a that's a level of [TS]

01:21:59   military protocol I don't know but but [TS]

01:22:02   in this little in this little corral [TS]

01:22:06   that I was in there's the mayor who is [TS]

01:22:10   used to being the top guy in the city [TS]

01:22:12   there's the Dow Constantine who is the [TS]

01:22:17   executive of the county and the county [TS]

01:22:19   incorporates the city but those two have [TS]

01:22:23   a relationship that is defined the [TS]

01:22:24   protocol of that relationship has been [TS]

01:22:26   defined for decades but still Dow is the [TS]

01:22:30   more successful of the two politicians [TS]

01:22:32   the one who will be in office next year [TS]

01:22:34   Oh interesting so how does that work now [TS]

01:22:36   the Navy is in town and these guys are [TS]

01:22:39   high-ranking Navy officers how do they [TS]

01:22:41   interact with a mayor of a city [TS]

01:22:44   the sheriff is there he's got four stars [TS]

01:22:47   on his collar the Admirals only have [TS]

01:22:49   three but you also know who's the home [TS]

01:22:50   team right right I think when somebody [TS]

01:22:53   else is the home team you are dignified [TS]

01:22:55   but differential right but like sheriff [TS]

01:22:59   stars and army stars oh yeah right they [TS]

01:23:03   don't they don't there's definitely [TS]

01:23:06   there's like a whole like it's like a [TS]

01:23:07   British Pound type situation like that's [TS]

01:23:09   that's a different kind of star [TS]

01:23:10   different kind of stuff mm-hmm and then [TS]

01:23:13   you waltz and then you plop down in the [TS]

01:23:16   middle of all of this [TS]

01:23:17   a rich person so let's say there's a [TS]

01:23:21   billionaire and let me have an [TS]

01:23:22   influential person let's say it's Jeff [TS]

01:23:25   Bezos come to the events so now Jeff [TS]

01:23:29   Bezos is in the middle so now all [TS]

01:23:32   picture changes for me [TS]

01:23:34   he's just cackling maniacally it's just [TS]

01:23:36   he's there and he's in a hyperbaric [TS]

01:23:38   chamber that's also a hovercraft [TS]

01:23:45   [Laughter] [TS]