Ep. 254: "One of My Favorite Actresses"
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hello hi John hi Marilyn how's it going
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super good yeah me too
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oh good yeah pretty good good news you
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know it's nice to just have a normal day
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yeah yeah yeah yeah I slept pretty well
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Sunday night is usually my best night of
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sleep yeah I mean when I say I'm doing
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pretty good it's not today's not a
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normal day and I just I guess I slept
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sort of well no no well I mean that's as
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good as it gets for me these days really
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yeah but I have to leave after our
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program to go be on the radio
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ah the radio did the terrestrial radio
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not our modern radio oh we should talk
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more about things that you do you um you
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uh surprise that's the wrong word I'm
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frequently surprised I'm buoyed to see
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that you go in perform places I saw I
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saw a picture of you with long hair
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performing you played the Pledger song
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on the the brothers podcast you're still
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out there you're still getting stuff
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done oh you know you got to get stuff
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done Merlin if you don't get it done and
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how's it gonna get done it's gonna do
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this stuff yeah that's right what can I
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ask what kind of you know is it a KEXP
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is it a Luke Burbank it's a what kind of
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situation you got no none of the above
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is say it's a KUOW which is our local
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public radio station and they have a
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they have a culture panel where they get
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they sit around and discuss cultural
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moments they say relatively like a
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temper aeneas or like yeah yeah yeah
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okay all right yeah I mean it's a it's
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just filler it's filler which is well a
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98 percent of all content is oh my
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goodness really oh I think so about
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content yeah do you think most content
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is filler I really do think it's in
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substantial I think so
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sure I mean you know like is the Azalea
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let's say let's just say that for
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instance why do you want to know
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anything about is he as they Iggy Iggy
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she's so fancy she's fancy but do you do
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you want to know anything about her I
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had to learn a little bit about her I
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don't take you off your topic about her
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because I'm a fan of Charli XCX who's
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the lady who sings the good part of that
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one song oh sure the part where she's
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not acting like like a black person from
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New Orleans English which is which is a
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really good part of that song huh and
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then then I heard there was some kind of
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dust up about her bona fides I should
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add oh you were bad news was yeah with
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the bad-boy demeanor and yeah
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tattoos twos Nicki Minaj monster monster
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everybody knows so the thing is I don't
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know anything I don't think really I'm
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really up on the rap these days monster
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song it's a really good song when I see
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that hotline bling you got the guy who
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did the who did the the Marvin Gaye song
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that was I'm definitely not doing this
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with you know updates in rap what that
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comes up on your cultural panel what if
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you're expected to opine on the rap of
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the day well this is the danger for me
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now because since I'm not on Twitter I
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don't know what the of the day stuff is
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I didn't of the day thing on the
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television a couple of days ago what do
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you think about but it's up but it's all
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stuff that I wouldn't have encountered
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it anyway you know they'll hand you a
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piece of paper here at the King 5
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breakfast show and it said there's a
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there's a hotel for sale outside of Reno
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that's decorated 100% in clowns and you
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read the thing and you're like oh and
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then you get online and or you get on
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the TV with them and they're like what
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do you think about that and you know and
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people that are making pancakes or
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people that are like getting the kids
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off to school or whatever it is that
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people do that watch those shows yeah
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they're like law or the
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there's a football player who was jet
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skiing any and he crashed and he lost a
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hundred and fifty thousand dollar
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diamond earring what do we think about
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that boys got something to say about it
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John I don't know a lot about producing
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content but IIIi think those are as you
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say problematic yeah you don't start out
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with something that's already funny and
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then talk about it well the thing is
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public radio is gonna be a little bit
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it's you know it's not gonna be so the
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humor is not gonna be so broad right
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they're they're actually gonna say
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here's an interesting thing right let
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the state legislature of Oklahoma says X
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and then but you know it's not gonna
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actually be like it's not gonna be
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biting nice it's it's cultural gentle
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its gentle but that's one of the one of
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the many things I do Merlyn in or in
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order to get stuff done
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in order to to make content for people
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and to ultimately I guess to to be in
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the mix you gotta stay in the mix you
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follow the mix it's hard to get back in
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oh yeah you can't get out you can't get
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out of the mix and I'm like riding a
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bike mm-hmm if you cuz then the mix
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separates right and you can your sauce
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yeah make your sauce you don't want to
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break your sauce but this week is gonna
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be this week's gonna be a hot week for
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me because because it's a it's Seafarer
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week here in Seattle OC for a week is
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that like a Fleet Week type situation
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that's right oh really
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and I am be a king of the of the obscene
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fair because your military service
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because again they need some content
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certain number of cubic inches of
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content right and John can provide that
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he can come in whereas little doctor
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doctor whose suit and you come in and
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you provide some content we get a crown
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I have a crown this please
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Cromwell they're on the they're on my
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Instagram account Oh insta cuts right
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you're still in the Instagram
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oh yeah use Instagram crown sword I have
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a tunic and so what you get in a
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situation like this is get a lot of
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events I'm gonna welcome the Blue Angels
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to town oh my goodness oh my goodness
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you've got a sash I do this is
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outstanding I was at a parade I was in a
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big parade 150,000 people watch the
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parade tremendous parade it was a big
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parade and then so this week I go I have
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dinner on on the flagship the US Navy
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admiral Pacific Admiral flagship boat I
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shake Anza and kiss babies with the Blue
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Angels quite a few times a lot of a lot
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of events a lot of different category go
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to the largest Rotary meeting in the
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northwest which they have every year at
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this time too
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you know because the rotor is very
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involved Wow things some breakfast some
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dinners and then I watch the and oh and
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throughout all of this I'm doing
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ceremonial night ends oh my goodness you
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you were born for this role John well
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this is the thing this is the kind of
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content that that I am that I that I can
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freely give the City of Seattle because
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without a king wearing a sash and a
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sword all you have is a bunch of guys in
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Navy uniforms milling around and then
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some Chamber of Commerce types and some
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rotary types and you know that the usual
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suspects mm-hmm but then you throw then
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you can throw a guy in a sash in there
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and it's anybody's it's a buddy's game
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at that point well you know if you're
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gonna have a monarchy you should have a
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king otherwise she's gonna have a power
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vacuum well won't be a monarchy well in
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mmm-hmm the other day I was asked I'm
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sorry I'm kind of distract I don't look
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at Instagram but now I'm looking at your
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Instagram you have all kinds of photos
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on here you know that's right it's my
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picture that you
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the brothers there's you oh look at you
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look at you and a little little sweet
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baby brother and look at that yeah oh
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did you get your fill sandbag buck no
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you all set you a Catwoman a Catwoman
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and I were looking at some comics I was
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asking her some questions because she is
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running the she was running the the
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booth I was like hey I don't see in here
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what I'm looking for and she came over
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someone took a a candid photograph wait
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you looking for Oklahoma sex cat sex cat
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yeah yeah I wasn't looking for that but
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now that you remind me of Oklahoma the
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sex cat I'm you know I should add it I
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should add it to my list you should make
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an apple note oh there's your mom look
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at your mom oh so that they so like for
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instance the other day I think that when
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they asked me to be King Neptune they
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had in mind that they wanted Seafarer to
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be a little bit hipper than it's been
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last year the King Neptune was was a
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member of the Seattle Seahawks and and
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he had a fun time with it when he
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bothered but it was that that was their
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typical the typical mistake I think that
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that you make in a situation like this
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where you're like this is an this is an
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honorary position and we're gonna give
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it to an upstanding citizen and then you
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pick somebody that that is in your own
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you're a Chamber of Commerce the kind of
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organization you pick somebody from that
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world yeah it's impressive in that world
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like a Seahawk but that's not very fun
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you know what I mean like you go to a
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Rotary meeting with a guy that has been
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to a lot of rotary meetings it's very
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it's just like it's very internal and
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then you realize oh we're producing an
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event for the whole city but but we're
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doing the we're making the old mistake
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of just like it's a circle jerk hit him
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where they ain't you yes you want power
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but you obviously you want somebody who
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you know has respect for the service
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drawing power somebody who loves the
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city of Seattle and who isn't just
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coasting yeah I also think you probably
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want somebody who's a good sport
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you gotta be a good sport right but
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there's the version of being King
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Neptune good sport where you stand there
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gamely with your sash and your crown on
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and they hand you a piece of paper and
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they say read this and then we're gonna
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Knight this your fellow citizen and you
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gamely read it and everyone gamely
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applauds but then there's then you there
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the UM another option which is swing for
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the fences and in this year they said
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why don't we get why don't we try and
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make C fare a little bit more fun and
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they got they asked me to be king them
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too and it's hard for me to tell I I do
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know that I'm putting pressure on the
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organization by being a little too fun I
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don't know how much sting it's kind of a
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Footloose type situation where a little
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bit where they bring you in because they
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say this guy's a good sport he looks
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great in an outfit and a crown but now
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now it's a in the second act things are
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turning around a little bit and they're
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going oh it's this guy cuz it's got
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gonna be a pistol well a little bit of a
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pistol right so the Seafarer grand
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marshals of the parade who are it's
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lot of these I think the grand marshals
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one of the grand marshals was Duff
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McKagan my my good pal who is also a
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supporter of Seattle
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that's just what is it it's an honorary
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thing they hand you a scepter you go I
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hereby commence the parade and you know
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it's but it's a fun thing it's a nice
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honor well this year last year they had
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Chris Pratt and an actress who everybody
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talks about very excitedly and who each
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time her name is mentioned I can't
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remember which one she is okay but one
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that everybody was excited to meet last
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year now I would be very excited to meet
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Chris Pratt because he's my favorite
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actress yeah he's a very good actor
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and I have to say just for what it's
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worth he's also seems like a good sport
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for good sport right and so it was very
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exciting so this year again they tried
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to maybe maybe they tried to duplicate
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their success yet last year so he
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brought along his lady friend and Anna
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Faris Anna Faris that's right and
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everybody's very excited about Hannah
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Ferris mm-hmm
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this year they got James woke and Billy
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Burke of the television show zoo Y which
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I don't know oh my goodness
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zoo better Marshalls so these are these
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actors and what they are is some actors
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from a thing that TV show like if it was
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if we were at comic-con Waterson to you
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yes oh we're about this I mean who knows
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ya know if it was nothing I've heard
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about there's a comic-con and I walked
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past these guys at a booth I would go
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sure of course but here they are and
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they're presented to me as like here are
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the grand marshals of the parade and you
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are meant to Knight them and then they
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commence the parade and it's all this
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thing this the it's a little bit of it
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some song and dance is what we're doing
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we're going slightly absolutely so here
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they come in the way I met this event
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and there some there are quite a few
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Admirals which is very exciting I met
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the commander of the Coast Guard for the
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Pacific region I met the the compare the
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Admiral of the Stennis Strike Force
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sleeps the aircraft carrier strike force
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another Admirals I made some I made some
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business with some animals you know I
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did a little look some walls with them
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another talk about game those guys have
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to be game because they do a lot of this
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type of thing anyway so up they walk in
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here comes Billy Burke who's a guy
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clearly my age but handsome Billy Billy
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Burke okay Lee Burke he was in the
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Twilight series Oh anyway he's wearing
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son I know this guy I thought Billy
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Burke was the good Queen and Wizard of
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Oz that's why that's the difference a
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different Billy Burke okay but he's
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wearing sunglasses he's got his hair is
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dirty hair up in a man bun he's wearing
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a Seahawks t-shirt a dirty unzipped
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hoodie and some shorts
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Annie and I'm like seriously that
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doesn't bring much gravitas visa V
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marshalling know somebody somebody told
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you that you were gonna be the grand
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marshal of a parade and you show up in
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your pajamas I was offended and so did
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you try to keep it in no I'm standing in
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front of this group of local dignitaries
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and I call him up and as they as they
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walked out my mom like Billy you didn't
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have to get dressed up all special for
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the parade
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and Billy Burke I don't then he put on a
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strange smile but I don't think he liked
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being roasted and then I said a few
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times as I was knighting him like you
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know Billy Billy made the special effort
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to roll out of bed to come be the grand
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marshal of Seattle's parade and I think
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we should honor him with this great
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honor oh my goodness and it's and the
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thing is I'm not being hostile I'm being
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funny it's fun Billy Burke
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fifty-year-olds grand marshal of a
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parade and he you know he should be able
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to take a little bit of this because he
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chose he chose that outfit not you yeah
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that's right cuz fuck you Billy and
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thing is James woke a younger man the
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star of the star of this TV show James
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work he showed up in a collared shirt
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with some pants now he didn't tuck his
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shirt in but he's a young person and he
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was loving it he was loving that Billy
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was getting raked over the coals so it
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was a little bit of a roasty situation
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is what happened huh now that is not
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what is I think typical of this event
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you unintentionally or maybe you made a
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little edgy I made a little some fun
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here we're gonna have a little fun and
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since since I established that tone then
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I knighted a couple of admirals and I
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gave them a little bit of the same kind
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of business like oh here is the Admiral
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of the Pacific Coast Guard fleet
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commander and I said is Alaska part of
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your area and he said no they're a
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separate group and I said oh so then
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you you have Montana and Idaho the two
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great coastal states some boy and he was
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mad and then I realized oh right the
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Missouri River the Snake River the
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Columbia River like the Coast Guard is
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also in the rivers okay and so then I
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you know so I corrected myself and I was
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like oh you also are all the waterways
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all the great waterways he and I made
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good friends the Admiral and I but you
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know a little bit but I think the people
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at seif they're the ones who have asked
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me to do this job are now hopping up and
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down not in anger but in anxiety because
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what is the king gonna say next kind of
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thing which is I think the exact kind of
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fun that they were hoping to have in
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just slightly smaller measure and so
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this is the this is the fun for me right
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this is a ceremonial position I'm not
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getting paid it's this is all
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interesting this is a old boy know what
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about Chris Pratt is he doing it for
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free everybody does this for free this
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Chris Pratt brought his family to
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Seattle and did this job for free yeah I
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mean you know I'm sure they put him up
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yeah but uh you should check that out
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that mmm that sounds a little bit like a
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jamup to me it's the type of thing that
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is I think it falls into the the sort of
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general community service aspect of
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being famous you get honored with these
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things and if you say yes there's no you
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know what does Seafarer gonna give give
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him five grand I mean that's not that's
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not something Chris Pratt's gonna put
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his family and I think me I don't know I
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don't know how much of this is image
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management but I've seen tons of
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delightful pictures of him visiting kids
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in hospitals and bringing them Lego and
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doing things in costume and he seems
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like kind of a Mitch like I don't know
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if that's aI don't know if that's like a
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rock the Dwayne Johnson type situation
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where he's just doing image management
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who knows but but he seems he seems like
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he'd be like a pretty cool guy maybe
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just totally like him on Parks and Rec
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it's the reason why he's one of my
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favorite actresses yeah but I think past
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a certain point right what will what
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this will be is Chris Pratt probably has
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a foundation and then this he'll do this
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in return for the opportunity to put his
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foundation for kids on the masthead of
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some other you know what I mean like
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it's it's a different kind of currencies
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the wrong word but for lack of a better
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word it's a different kind of currency
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it's a kind of social tokens that we
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pass back and forth we try and do the
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right thing and these are the this is
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what the Rotary Club is all about right
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the Rotary Club sends some students to
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go bei Japan and Kobe Japan send some
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students to rotary and one of those
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students one day goes to college and
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become a majors in business management
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and ends up being the deputy director of
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the port and rotary pins appends a star
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on him and though her and the star then
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goes up on a on a piece of wood on the
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wall of a place and you know it's like
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there is a there is a world of
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honorarium a world of and everyone is
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very proud there's a lot of like pride
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in the work that they do
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it feels meaningful it feels like it
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spreads a fraternity thus the whole
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sister-city notion of like and now
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someone who's here from our sister city
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in Uzbekistan and they brought an
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entourage and you know and being like
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being is even tangentially involved in
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that in this kind of world like I have
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to I have to also realize they're
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creating content for their own markets
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and sure again it's it's a kind of thumb
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I don't visible but a kind of yes
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you're saying it's it's it's content and
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it's it's a kind of reputational Wafi
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tokens like there's it's interesting
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you're moving kind of invisible
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resources around yeah and and I think I
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think what what the benefit of these
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things is to the people that that are
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knee-deep in it is like this is where
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after you've awarded the the blue ribbon
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for the state's largest cow or after
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you've sent 25 kids to college and
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Antarctica for the semester then as
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you're standing around at the end of the
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meeting somebody like my dad says hey
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Bill I want to meet Tony and Tony goes
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hey Bill how's it going I'm trying to
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you know I'm the guy that's trying to
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get the permits to build the sixty five
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storey office tower on the land adjacent
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to where you are trying to also build a
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tower and you are holding up my permits
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haha why don't we figure that out and
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it's like oh you're a Rotarian Wow and
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like that kind of handshake II thing is
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what people that aren't in the room and
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what you know what democratic socialists
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are what makes them so suspicious and
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angry because it seems like that's where
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all chummy yeah that's where all the
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deals are getting made and that's why
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those organizations exist now being
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inside them right I see like oh that's
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not why they exist but it is a it is an
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element it is a fringe benefit of it
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that the people that are invited are the
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ones that are seen to need to be there
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and then that's how things get done and
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it's uh it's not very creative and it's
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not very it's not it's not fun by any
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standards that we have like it's not
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like the things that are supposed to be
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funny aren't funny the things that are
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supposed to be neat aren't neat there
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are a lot of PowerPoint demonstrations
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where people are showing slideshows of
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all the kids that they've helped but it
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really does
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come from I don't know a place in those
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people that is altruistic mm-hmm a
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desire to help and I have no idea how
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the anteroom of these people because I'm
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because whatever they pick me out as
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somebody that's game that will come to
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these things and be a little roasty and
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be a little bit because the thing is in
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a group of in a group where the
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admiral's are standing around right
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there's a lot of respect for the
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Admirals and the Admirals are standing
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around used to being respected it's
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their number one job description respect
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these guys right like they're every
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single room they've ever walked into
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from the time that they were a
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lieutenant junior grade some large
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proportion of the people in that room
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are respecting them mm-hmm no one ever
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disrespects them except maybe and part
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of it is um you learn so early on that
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you get respect by giving respect
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there's a tremendous respect as the
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currency right and so that but the
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Admirals in this situation are like
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they'd to go to a lot of rotary meetings
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they behaved respectfully but you don't
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get the sense that they you know part of
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respect sad to say is that you are
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impressed and maybe a little afraid
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right I mean certainly the respect
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they're used to commanding has a healthy
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element of fear in it because the people
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that are like yes sir are ones that can
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be in big trouble
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if they say yes sir wrong and so the
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Admirals are in this thing and there are
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a lot of rote Aryans and and people from
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the city and the animals aren't really
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very afraid of them you know they're
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it's not like somebody from Seattle is
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going to say we're not giving the Navy
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permits to park their boats here this
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year because we're making I mean it's
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possible if we elected a mayor
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was a real radical but ultimately the
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Navy's not worried about Seattle but a
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situation like that you know my job I as
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I see it is to because the lot of these
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animals aren't that much older than me
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right I know I know 54 and so although
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I'm iris I respect to the office and I
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respect the Navy let's say I don't have
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a lot of social fear because what is it
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Admiral gonna do to me what is what are
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these people gonna do to me and so no
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one ever roasts Admirals particularly
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not at a thing like this that's so low
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weight like this is these are low power
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events for these people the Seafarer
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parade you know they do they don't come
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expecting to be ribbed publicly and and
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I think personally that they love it I
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think it's fun for them I think that a
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everybody likes to be roasted a little
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and it's a like nobody ever
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nobody ever sidles up to them and says
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so tell me is that do you don't you get
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tired of wearing these uniforms that are
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half polyester I mean couldn't you have
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a uniform Taylor do you think they like
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that I think they do because it's a kind
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of banter that they it's the sort of
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banter that I would you know that I
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would lay on you yeah and they and they
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do have those feelings like so I'm
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standing next to the King County Sheriff
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who is a beep he's a big deal here and
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we're watching the opening remarks and I
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and there's a young deputy standing next
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to him who's not his who's it basically
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looks like his son and is sort of acting
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like his son and I don't think he's a
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bodyguard he's just his he's probably
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his aide-de-camp
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he says Ballena called Theia is his body
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manners back now but yeah he says he's
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the guy that's gonna eat his purse he
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gets his Leviathan and
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he needs a magnifying glass he knows
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where to pull it out right yeah so I'm
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standing next to the camp eight to camp
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what a great term aid to camp it's got
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to be what he is and I look over in the
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and the King County Sheriff has a side
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arm and the side arm you know it's
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unlikely that this sixty year old man is
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ever gonna draw his sidearm again but
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it's there because it's part of the
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uniform uh-huh and I looked down and it
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has a single piece of scotch tape
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wrapped around the handle wrapped around
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the grip and I look at him I kind of
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think about it for a second and I walk
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over and I say Sheriff and he looks at
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me and I'm wearing a crown yeah yes so
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he's so he's not gonna say hello citizen
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he's gonna say what the fuck is this now
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and I said sheriff I can't help but
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notice that your sidearm is held
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together with scotch tape can you and he
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starts to laugh and his aide camp starts
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to laugh and I said can you give me a
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some explanation for why the sheriff of
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King County can't find a screw for his
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or whatever and he says well you know
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the the grip is a little bit Wiggly and
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so I fixed it and you're the first
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person that's ever said anything about
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it and now my aide camp is laughing at
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me so thanks very much for that Wow and
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I figured either his kid put it on there
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he kept it on cuz it was sweet Oh cuz
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you know get a lot of that your kid put
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stuff on your things I'm sure it was
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that or there was maybe so he could get
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his fingerprints off there if you need
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it to no just a single piece of scotch
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tape all right and and so I said well
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you know sheriff that's wonderful
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because I'm gonna be able now to report
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to the citizens of King County that you
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are not wasting precious County
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resources on doing things like fixing
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the grip of your gun
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yeah which you're unlikely to draw and
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so then he's like oh here's I got a live
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one here and we sit and chat
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because in a way that kind of banter
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establishes establishes that there is a
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that my lack of fear is a kind of peer
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I'm establishing a peer relationship
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right like I am clearly not a peer of
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the King County Sheriff in any respect
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right sort of classic sense not in the
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classic sense but I'm also not
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intimidated by him and that's unusual
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for him right I mean the only people
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that aren't intimidated by the King
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County Sheriff are his wife and his kids
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probably because everybody else that he
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meets in it in the course of this
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situation is either someone who reports
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to him or someone who needs him needs
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his political support mm-hmm I mean
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that's it's um I don't mean this
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disparagingly but that's a managerial
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job big time right I mean I mean you
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know I wouldn't Domitian I'm sure that
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he would be happy to jump in and grab a
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broom if he needed to but like his job
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is very that's a high level
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administrative job he manages other
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managers and he came up through the
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ranks and you know one of the Dave
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Reichert who was a former King County
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Sheriff became a US congressman so it's
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a political job okay all right and he
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goes to these events and everything
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everything that we're looking at at this
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event is within his jurisdiction he is
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the sheriff of all of this and so
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everybody at this thing is like sheriff
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you know thanks for coming and also we
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you know we're looking for your help if
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next year at the whatchamacallit thing
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and so no one ever comes up and says
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what's the deal with your broken gun
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giggling yeah what's up with that and
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and he likes it right everybody likes
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that everybody wants somebody to come up
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and take the steam out of them or at
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least everybody who's normal like I'm
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sure there's a king I'm sure there's a
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sheriff somebody somewhere who's like
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move along citizen I mean in my
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estimation that
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is less bothersome to people who are
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both powerful and confident right there
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are there are people in positions of
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power that are not that confident
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nominee any names here and then there
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are other people who are very confident
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but don't have power and that kind of
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thing if you haven't gotten through the
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ranks and moved up feels like a slight
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that must be addressed in the moment it
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much like you went on like a playground
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right power you can you can laugh it off
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because you know let's just not gonna
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bother you well and he is a he's a he's
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a politician ultimately and so he's not
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gonna get to that job and be good at it
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if he doesn't have a sense of humor
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because it's you've got to you've got to
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be fielding a lot of crazy shit all day
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and a few minutes later I'm standing
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with the King County Executive who is
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the sheriff's boss nominally who's a
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young guy and actually a friend of mine
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like somebody that I know socially and
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he's the I think the greatest politician
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in the state by a large margin and
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everybody thinks so his name is Dow
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Constantine and he is a he's just a
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great politician and he's a he's a
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liberal he gets things done and he's
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also a cool guy right he's at this event
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he's dressed appropriately except he's
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wearing converse because he's a because
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he's a Justin Trudeau he's having a
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little fun he's having a little fun
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because it's a fun time but he's also
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got a blazer on and he's he he found in
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his collection of accoutrements all his
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little Seafarer pins and buttons that
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he's received over the years as various
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like every one of these little things
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that some King Neptune has given him
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like I hereby proclaim that you are the
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king of the day and they hand you a
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little pin Dow has them arranged
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somewhere so that when he's coming to
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this some assistant says and here are
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your Seafarer pins and he puts them on
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his blazer so that it's just like and
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that's how you're a good politician you
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know you show up at this and you're
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wearing the right pins
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and so you know that's let me pause you
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for a second because I like that phrase
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what was the phrase knowing the right
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pins that's really that's kind of a
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really good way to put it because it
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also encompasses a lot of the different
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kinds of things we're talking about
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whether that's Rotary Club or your
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father you know uh councilor you know
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like knowing all of the ways to like
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wear the right pin becomes very
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important in these situations right
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remember remember how politicians were
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being bullied into wearing American flag
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pins during the Bush administration oh
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it was it was this I remember after I
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want to say after 9/11 there was this or
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things like which late-night talk-show
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host will be the first to stop wearing
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up a flag pin yeah and if you if you
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appear there was a while there where if
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you appeared as a public figure without
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a flag pin on it was cause for censure
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especially if you were a Steph you were
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a a public servant and I think I think
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you will still see an awful lot of flag
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pins on the lapels of I mean I don't
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think there's a single Republican
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Congress person that doesn't have a
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flight well a lot of them wear that that
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goofy slightly oversized badge that
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Congress person's get that looks a
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little silly because when I see them
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talking on the MSNBC it looks a little
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bit like like a POG maybe or something
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you know it's a big pin trading culture
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at theme parks sure I think this is how
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that the sheriff with the cowboy hat got
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a lot of his Mad Max when Morton Joe
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pins is just trading with other cowboy
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sheriffs yeah this whole penetrating
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culture and I think that's part of what
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you're describing here knowing the right
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pin but but also it encompasses the
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things like the things that I look at
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and see as magical like the ability to
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remember people's names yeah what they
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do what they used to do who they know
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who their family is and to do that
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without going back like I are you you
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know that's I I just look at that and I
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just said look at something like that
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sheriff I just go man that guy's got it
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wired right well and you think about you
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think about Dow how many different
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events he goes to where they hand him a
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pin and he goes home and somehow puts
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that pin into a system
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where he says the next time I go to the
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to the King County reservoir maintenance
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directors Jamboree I'm gonna be able to
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put this pin on my lapel and and when I
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arrive and they see it they are going to
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be chuffed right there's no look that
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you can tell I'm excited and this is my
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fifth one of these look at my lapel I'm
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wearing I'm wearing my flight of pins
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it's it's phenomenal you know that
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ability and that and the knowledge that
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that is the thing you need to need that
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you need to do but so I'm standing there
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in down an hour just talking about our
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families and we're talking about our
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lives and a guy walks up and he's one of
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the people I've I have honored that day
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who's a who runs an organization that
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supports the Navy and he says you know
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hey sorry to interrupt I just wanted to
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say hi just wanted to say thank you
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Dowell remembers his name Dom knows who
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he is and he says just wanted to make
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sure you got my email inviting you to
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the event that we're doing and it's a
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little bit of a you know I know I know I
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know that message I've gotten a message
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and and this is a protocol breach
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because we're at a thing dows wearing is
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his fun shoes but you can tell that this
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man is very earnest about his work and
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as part of that earnestness he does not
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recognize social
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whatever the way the wiggle room is
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between this is an event where you say
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something like that this is not slightly
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cringy breach of protocol a little bit
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but Dow is very very graceful sure and
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Dow says you know I don't have any staff
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members with me right now and so and
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then he makes this self-effacement joke
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so he then he says and you know honestly
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like I just go where they tell me so I
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don't know I don't you know it's his
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kind of way of saying I don't answer my
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own email when it is things like this
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but when I get back to the office I'll
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ask them to make sure that I am you know
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right D write it down
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nope he just remembers just remembers
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and and the guy kind of presses his
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attack a little bit well we'd like you
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to be at the event and you know it's
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very important because we're doing it
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for the Navy and we in the you know we
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and support our troops and Dow says you
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know as soon as I get back a minute I'm
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going to talk to my staff about it and
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just sort of gracefully does his thing
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but that is what is happening at these
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things whether it is overt like that or
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whether a person walks up and says hey
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great to see you Dow and Dow knows that
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this person wants them at their at his
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event and he's able to send a coded
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message to them like hey great well I'll
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see you the LC in a week it's in a
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situation like that it's a little bit
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the phrase comes to mind is holding
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court where if you actually think about
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a regent sitting in some kind of a room
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where people come in and come in you
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know talk to them about things in that
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kind of situation dow is his name
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sheriff down no the sheriff is not down
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who's down Dow is the executive what am
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i sorry Dow is the executive is the
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nominal boss well he's that person if
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that person that person has the
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opportunity to say at that point to this
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person oh by the way I got your note I
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haven't had a chance to respond to it
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but I feel pretty sure we can get that
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on the schedule yeah how's the
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opportunity where he could say that but
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if he didn't say that you asking them
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about it you're basically doing that
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thing where you say did you get my email
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about about your email okay don't do
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that don't people especially in social
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situations it's it's such a it's such a
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PR bad PR person thing to do that whole
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like well if I do it in public and I'm
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smiling like you have to be nice to me
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yeah well and it's how I it's how a PR
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person justifies their their bowl of
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cereal right because they get to that's
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my job yeah that's their job and they're
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trying to get those Glengarry leads all
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the time but but an event like this
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every single person in there is holding
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court simultaneously there are no people
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in there that are not either with I mean
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everybody had stars on there
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and the sheriff has four stars on his
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collars but he are on his collar but he
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he reports to Dowe who is wearing
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converse but functions yeah yeah but
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Dalles got stars on his collar too and
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everybody knows it it's just down Stars
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our Seafarer pins cuz he knows how to do
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that the only people in there that
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aren't that don't have stars on their
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collars are Billy Burke and James woke
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who are there because they're rich
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Hollywood hansoms and then me
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yeah and I'm wearing a fucking crown
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yeah that speaks for itself
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it really does right a crown like you
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because the crown says suggests I am
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ceremonially the boss of everyone here
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obviously we all know that that is not
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true well I think the purpose is for the
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purposes of this event if that has been
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conferred on you I think people should
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be deferential to you and they are and
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that is part of the fun every one of
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these Admirals said do I bow mm-hm and
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each time I say yes and and bend the
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knee as they do the fucking two of these
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Admirals got down on their knees right
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that's a good sport
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it's a fucking good sport because
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they're politicians - mm-hmm you don't
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get to be a three-star general or
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Admiral without being pulled it's a
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little bit of what one might call social
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power exchange you have you're having
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fun with it
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fucking-a mm-hmm and Mike and what I the
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only thing I lack is a clown nose
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because that's that's what the crown is
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right come on and I went to great
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lengths because because you have a lot
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of dignity I would not call that a clown
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nose you're a very you have a you have a
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an excess of dignity thank you I grew my
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beard a little bit long so that I look
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like hanging up to it a little bit more
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mm-hmm but but I feel like the the job
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description that the Seafarer people had
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in mind
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business-casual plus a sash and a crap
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that's what they expect okay and I have
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spent the last month putting together a
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pretty good replica of of like tsar
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nicholas ii tunic from just before the
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world war i have all the elements i have
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the you know i have the the star of
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Constantine and I have the the
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additional gold braid and the gigantic
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epaulets and the you've done some
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readings on your work here the sword
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belt and I mean if you take a picture of
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me and my tunic and you put it up next
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to Tsar Nicholas he's got a lot more
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and each one of the nice things about
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being a Tsar is that you can have
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knee-high patent leather boots made for
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yourself which would be set that I'm
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like I'm frankly teetering on making me
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- I just thought telling but so sweet in
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a tunic befitting a star and that is not
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what Seafarer expected they're not
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displeased
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it certainly is inhabiting the role what
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they expected was you come in looking
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like a golf dad basically they want to
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golf dad with a sash lalala and and
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that's but they got they got a little
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more than they bargained for they wanted
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to reach a younger demo and they brought
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in a new king with some of some fresh
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energy and he he brought a whole outfit
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yeah right and it's a you know like the
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outfit oh so fun to wear it's so fun to
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march around in this outfit with its you
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know the epaulets really the epaulets
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really communicate not only that you
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have broad shoulders but that those
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broad shoulders are covered with
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cthulhu's of gold which is you know like
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the fucking Admirals
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who are marching around this thing have
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giant gold epaulettes
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it's just that style has changed and the
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epaulets now are flat and have a lot of
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stars on them but they're still freaking
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gold epaulettes and my epaulets are just
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what they would have worn a hundred
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years ago a little bit more at Gilbert
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and Sullivan yeah I mean there's a you
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know I don't want to look like
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Nutcracker why'd you put that image in
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my head that's funny like the Nutcracker
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with some homemade makeup I am
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essentially I am essentially there is
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the Nutcracker the you know the the game
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I mean initially I what I wanted was to
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come dressed as Master and Commander and
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it was very difficult to put that outfit
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together so that it looked good with a
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crown and the problem of the problem of
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the crown is that it it's very important
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to see fair because that's what they
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made they made a crown and they thought
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they were having fun with that and that
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that's an example of like we are fun and
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we're having fun with but with this and
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we made a crown and a sash for our King
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and it's an easy thing to put on
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somebody who's wearing business casual
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and make it make the event fun it's like
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instant King just add crown right you
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can walk in and you're wearing a suit
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from Men's Wearhouse and they put the
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sash on you you put a crown on and then
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unite somebody everybody has a good
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laugh yeah but Seafarer when i was a kid
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was one of these regional festivals that
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used to happen in every in every town
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every small town every to local every
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town that wasn't because they're the
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country didn't have a unified culture
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Seafarer was an event that where seattle
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went off went bananas like king neptune
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had an entourage of 20 people oh my
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goodness they were all wearing giant
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drunk it was there were parties people
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would really get into the spirit oh my
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god I mean my mom talks about it she's
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she's like
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Seafarer was the event of the season
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there were multiple parades there was a
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giant parade to kick it off then there
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was a giant parade in the middle and
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then there was a giant parade at the end
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that's kind of event my late father
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would call it grab-ass
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it was a huge grab-ass and everyone came
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from miles around
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the mayor and that you know and the end
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Neptune was a was a big deal right
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during that time during the Seafarer
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month King Neptune never bought a drink
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in any bar in the city there are Seafair
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pirates and sea fair clowns and they
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would they would come into bars and
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restaurants and just start singing their
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body songs and they would take you know
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food off of people's plates and
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everybody had a grand old wry bald time
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and I'm sure at that during that era
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right there was also a lot of
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impropriety that wouldn't fly these days
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oh I would feel fairly certain about
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that and so that you know that is kind
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of taken out of it right as time goes on
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the mayor does not get publicly drunk
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during sea fair but watching them in old
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black-and-white photos like watching the
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town just go nuts and when I got when I
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was appointed King Neptune my brother
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Bart sent me a text and he said dad
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would be so proud oh that's nice
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dad loved sea fair and this is a you
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know this is an example of the kind of
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honorary position in the City of Seattle
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that my dad thrived on and no member of
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my family even in all of their many
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splendors no one ever was King Neptune
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before my dad and my my uncle al and my
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uncle Junius and george alfred caldwell
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rodchester before him none of them ever
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were afforded or recorded this honor
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so I don't want to show up in business
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casual and have a crown I wanted to come
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dressed as Russell Crowe and Master and
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Commander hmm but it but you can't take
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that big Napoleon hat off and put a
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crown on you just look dumb but you can
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come as Tsar Nicholas or King George the
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fifth or a little bit less Kaiser
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Wilhelm but you can you can come as
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those guys and it and it it looks it
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looks the part right because they were
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obviously like commanders of their
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navies to you you knew that Tsar
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Nicholas George the fifth and Kaiser
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Wilhelm were all first cousins right in
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thinking about what you were saying I
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was in my head something was swinging
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around about Germans there seemed
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something isn't there a lot of dramatic
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things running through a lot of
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different countries like a lot of the
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royal family has roots in Germany well
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they're all they're all related right
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the British royal family is a German
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house I seem to remember in that in the
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crown I remember that being kind of kind
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of a big deal like one of the one of her
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relatives still mostly spoke German and
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stuff like that well sure and the thing
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is the leaders of those three nations at
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that time 1914 the King of England the
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George is George v Elizabeth's father
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grandfather okay right I think
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yeah all right well they were all so all
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three of those yes either you're right
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I'm sorry yeah I think you're right the
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Kaiser of Prussia the the Czar of Russia
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and the King of England were all first
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cousins and they were all grandsons of
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Queen Victoria Wow
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and while Queen Victoria was alive they
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were all like oh and they and they look
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almost exactly alike like George the
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fifth and Tsar Nicholas look like twins
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you see them next to each other twins
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twins twins and no nobody in the family
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liked Kaiser Wilhelm he was the cousin
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that nobody liked how come he was a jerk
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okay he was like I think that he had
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when he was being born did there was a
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complication and one and you know it was
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it was all olden times so they weren't
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able to solve complications in being
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born did like on the spot and one of the
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results was that the Kaiser was had a
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deformed arm that it was like Gary
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Berghof right he he had one hand that he
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didn't like to show Erbs palsy Gary
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burghoff had an arm situation Gary
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burghoff if you I mean in in the ten
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years that we all watched mash every day
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we never ever noticed that Gary burghoff
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has one hand that is I think much
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smaller than the other I had no oh my
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god there it is I had no idea and he
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Birkhoff who is by all accounts a
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reprehend reprehensible person oh no I'm
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so sorry you hear that is also a great
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drummer
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thank you so much he's a phenomenal
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drummer but everybody I don't so you
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weren't around maybe you were your
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attention was elsewhere you were
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probably watching Apple announcement
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events yeah developer conferences but
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at some point in the early-mid Twitter
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Gary Birkhoff appeared on Twitter and he
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was one of those people that went from
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having 50 followers to 15,000 followers
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in two days because he was on Twitter
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just taking a dump on Alan Alda every
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day I see and was just he was going he
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was doing a James Woods he was just
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going crazy and it was oh I know oh no
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this is not good it sounds like oh I had
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some drinks it was the type of thing
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where Andy Richter was right in there
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you know like everybody was enjoying
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gary burghoff
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imploding online I love a Charlie Sheen
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I most of all right but but it caused me
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then to read some oral histories of mash
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and my favorite quote was somebody I
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don't know who said Gary Birkhoff was by
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far the best actor on mash he was doing
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a genius performance because he was
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creating a character that was beloved by
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everyone in the country when he himself
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was like the most awful man alive and
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was going up to Charles Nelson Reilly
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Herve Villechaize no one is spared no
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you see what's really on Olsen Reilly
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that's no good well it's like Gary also
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is is not a not a tall man and yeah
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thought he was lumped in there but so I
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think the Kaiser because of his because
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of his damaged arm had a chip on his
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shoulder and the Czar and the King
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looked so much alike and were very
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chummy like they vacationed together
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there was a lot of slap and tickle
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happening and the Kaiser felt left out
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but they all stayed very they all stayed
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very you know like pally
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because all three of them loved Queen
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Victoria their grandmother and there are
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all these pictures of them kind of like
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curled up at her feet while she pets
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their hair
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and when she died almost immediately the
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cousins were like they all squared off
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and of course they started a world war
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not that long after mm-hmm
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where and so the Kaiser and the king and
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the Czar are fuckin first cousins and
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they are they're like fighting this
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enormous conflict where millions died
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over some stupid shit and halfway
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through the war the Tsar is deposed by
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revolution and then at the end of the
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war the Kaiser loses his crown and there
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is no there is no monarch of Germany
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anymore it becomes a whatever funk
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semi-functional republic and the king of
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england is the last man standing so I
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guess really I'm really I'm dressing
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like King George the fifth I don't want
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to end up like the Tsar it's gonna be a
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busy week
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I have like six events a day oh my
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goodness that's too many events at six
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events a day Merlin and Wednesday is
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supposed to be a hundred and three
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degrees in Seattle that's a hot day to
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be the king well I'll see I don't want
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to wear my tunic on that day I'm gonna
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that's the day that I'm going business
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casual mm-hmm I'm going I'm going cruise
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ship casual on Wednesday this is another
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nice thing though is that you are I mean
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obviously you've put a lot of your own
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special preparation into this particular
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costume but like you've got a lot of
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stuff just sitting around that would be
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appropriate for almost any event like
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you're you seem like you're pretty good
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to go yeah as long as no one I I think
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that I have put myself now finally in a
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place that I've been that I've been
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shooting for my whole life which is a
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place with particularly in in wardrobe
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terms where whatever the invitation says
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is the Wardrobe
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I know that not only can I can I meet
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their expectations but that I will be
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able to show up in my own version of a
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thing like if it sells if it says
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cocktail formal or it says semi-formal
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or if it says I mean no one ever doesn't
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event that says that that says formal
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and means actual formal like the the
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nicest event in the country you can show
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up to an a rented tuxedo anymore but you
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might say black tie or white tie right I
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I do not think that you will ever see a
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thing invite where you are invited white
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tie I mean unless it's a Royal Wedding
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which no one's no one listening to this
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podcast is likely to get invited to
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least of all me yeah although you never
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know you never know
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I mean maybe Boris Johnson is listening
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to this but other times the dress code
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they give is a combination of two things
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on the one hand it's like hey you don't
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want to look like a ding-a-ling so make
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sure you dress at least up to this bar
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but it's also a kind of like a
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consolation of saying don't worry like
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you don't have to wear a necktie to this
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right I think you're trying to give you
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something to say like to provide comfort
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ultimately to say like if you're in the
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range of this
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range of this
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kind of garb you'll be fine right and
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that is antithetical to the idea of
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having a dress code right I mean that's
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a that is a modern that's a modern
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problem to say like here's the dress
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code don't feel bad
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you get to where you have to wear it up
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to this point but don't worry you can it
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you won't be uncomfortable poor person
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yeah and after an hour you can take your
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shoes off
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yeah and in the past right a dress code
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was almost almost explicitly like you
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are going to be incredibly uncomfortable
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this is not negotiable here is what the
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expectation is and you will come correct
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and that's gone from the world unless
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you're invited to something hosted at
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the White House or something right like
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like you go you go to a wedding where
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the where the people are putting on the
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wedding and they want everybody to be
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like really really formal and you see a
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bunch of guys in blue suits yeah I mean
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if it doesn't if the if the title of the
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event you know you look out for words
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like gala gala is a good indication you
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should up your game a little bit right
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but for a lot of people in the world
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that is a blue suit that's as high as
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they go blue suit with with the tie the
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ceiling I've been go any higher than
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that or a rented tux a mule an
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ill-fitting rented tux
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yeah so but but in most cases like
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formal I think formal involves like
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actual formal at night is white tie
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white waistcoat like when was last time
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you saw that that wasn't at it wasn't a
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member of a wedding party well and you
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have to be careful that you don't get in
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too jokey frat brother Brothers style
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formality right black black tie is after
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six is that right
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well white tie is like the super formal
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one right right time in olden times
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white tie was for dinner and black tie
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was like what you wore
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like then I mean a morning coat well
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this is when you white ties when you
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wear like a Jiminy Cricket outfit yeah
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at dinner every night I mean this is
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like this is like old Oh like 1910 and
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in England but you didn't show up with a
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Black Tie tuxedo at night at a gala for
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sure but now you do now that's the
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that's the peak and there are all kinds
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of rules right you don't wear a white
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dinner jacket unless you're in the
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tropics but people love the look of
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white dinner jackets and so now you see
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white dinner jackets above the tropics
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and also you don't wear a white dinner
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jacket in the winter hmm but people do
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now because there's a costume for speed
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since most people are having fun with it
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right they don't under they don't know
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what the they don't know that it
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actually signifies a Kemp some kind of
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like archaic social order but so if I'm
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invited to anything up to white tie
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which I cannot accomplish like Paul if
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Tompkins can accomplish white tie and
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wears it sometimes min wears it always
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as a costume so he wears it
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inappropriately in that it's too formal
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for some events he goes to but that's
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his bit he's like a he's like a friendly
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children's television host yeah that is
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that's his bit huh but almost anything
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else that you would invite me to I can
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come not only appropriately but also in
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my own vernacular right in my own
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vernacular precisely so you know I can
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come to a black-tie event in 1959 or in
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1977 or then also the one that is just
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the appropriate one
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can I just I read you the description of
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white tie from the internet science site
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here according to the British etiquette
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guide Debrett's of which I do not own a
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copy the central opponents are
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components of full evening dress from
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men are a white Marcella shirt which is
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a kind of like a weave of shirt Marcella
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shirt with the detachable wing collar
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and single cuffs fastened with studs and
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cufflinks the eponymous white Marcella
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bowtie is worn around the collar while
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marcella waistcoat is worn over the
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shirt over this is worn a black single
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breasted bar Athiya that's like a very
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gameofthrones name Bharathi awal or
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ultrafine herringbone tail coat with
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silk peak lapels were not done the
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trousers have double braiding down the
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outside of both legs while the correct
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shoes are patent leather or highly
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polished black dress shoes although a
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white scarf remains popular in winter
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the traditional white gloves top hats
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canes and cloaks are now rare it's the
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end of the menses yes and so you lose
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the Canes you lose the Canes and cloak
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because in cloaks nak seem to like Tori
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and that's two costumes you look a
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little bit like you know the monopoly
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man it was like them enough women but
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single cuffs not French cuffs like there
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are a lot of mistakes that we make in
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thinking that the thing that is more
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ornate is also the most fancy like
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you'll see a lot of people a lot of men
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wear their wingtips to put wingtips with
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the tux because the wingtips have more
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fancy on them they are more bling they
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got more bling but in fact when you get
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up to this level the fanciest is the
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plainest so you're not meant to wear
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wingtips with a with a tuck so you want
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your plainest black shoes and it should
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be no except first right yeah that's
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and and not French cups but single cuffs
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and so forth and so on and all this
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stuff is like that all signals whether
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or not you know and that's a huge part
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of what dress codes and what dress even
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is it signals whether or not you know
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what things are and now of course we
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think oh those things are unimportant or
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those that are worse those things are
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enforcing a social hierarchy that we
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abhor but those things are also part of
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our and this is the word that you know
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this is the bell ringing word right it's
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part of our patrimony pound sign not all
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tuxedos right pound signs you know wears
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why is it patrimony mm-hmm that's I am
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but but it's that stuff interests me not
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just because it's like cultural heritage
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but also because I love codes you know I
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love social codes I love in I love
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interpreting codes I love seeing when
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other people like Dow Constantine
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wearing those fucking ribbons is and the
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converse is expressing a knowledge of
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ultimately of people and of stories and
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of the stories that people want to tell
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and that's what all this stuff is about
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and I admire it when I see it
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and honestly I feel like the single
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piece of scotch tape on the sheriff's
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gun was a thing that he initially put on
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there because a screw fell out of his
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pistol and then he liked what it
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symbolized he's a man of the people he
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has a piece of tape on his gun and no
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one has said anything about it he's been
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wearing that tape on his gun for fucking
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ever I bet because looking at the tape
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it had been on there a long time it was
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all it was all used and it was put on
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there very you know not not with any
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attempt to be neat it was very like slap
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on some tape he'd been wearing that like
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a pin on his lapel as a way of signaling
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so many things and someone finally said
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something about it and he was thrilled
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and his deputy was thrilled
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all these little flags that we have all
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these flag lapels a flag pins on our
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lapels that are that are ways of saying
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like this is me like a sheriff can't
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bling out his outfit it already is
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completely composed I'm not sure if Sam
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you know he doesn't have any there's no
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opportunity for him to put them even a
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even a flower in
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lapel because it would be out of uniform
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huh but he can put a little tape on the
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handle of his gun like a like a lace
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brassiere
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now at some point do you think you
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should get that fixed I mean like it's
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fun he's having fun with it which I like
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I like that he's doing some bling and
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he's got his his version of a black
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brassiere but like damn certain points
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shouldn't police officer make sure his
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gun doesn't have tape on it and that's a
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throwaway piece I think they call it I'm
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hoping I'm hoping that this Sheriff has
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enough insulating sheriffs around him he
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has three or four there were the shit
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there there are the deputies you see and
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there that are the deputies you don't
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see and in Seattle at least in in in
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Palin around with Dow his driver and his
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the deputy that is assigned to shadow
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Dow is always a woman and there and at
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this event
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standing sort of back with my crown on
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that's another fun game is to pick out
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the people who are there because they
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are carrying guns because they're
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shadowing somebody right because a lot
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of the people at this event have a
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shadow and the shadow isn't standing at
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their elbow the shadow is standing in a
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corner somewhere and they will have an
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earpiece or they won't but they will
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definitely have a little twirly cable on
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it like you're like a Secret Service
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type situation yeah so there were four
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of those people at this event but there
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were also other people that didn't have
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twirl ease but that had on you know like
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bulges in their jackets and in King
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County at least it seems like often the
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like secret detectives the ones the ones
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who are standing at one remove are women
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because I think that the county
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recognizes that bad guys are there you
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know the the goal of somebody's standing
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there with a pistol is that you may not
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be notice
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mm-hmm and bad guys are gonna be less
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likely to think that the sheriff is
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being shadowed by a deputy who's a woman
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and that that's an extra layer of
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badassery that's super badass like Pussy
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Galore like you have your whole like
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your squad of action people that's
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really cool and so when the when the the
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gang was all finally arrayed on our on
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our big like parade of Corvettes which
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is how we were going through the parade
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and the mayor the the beleaguered mayor
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of Seattle also arrived and got in his
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Corvette and I was very interested to
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know because it's a parade and there's
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very little separation between you and
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the crowd in a parade yeah as he started
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having a rough time well I mean what
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what he is accused of he will never not
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have a rough time I mean I know you've
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been acquainted with him I'm trying to
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be classy about it but he's he's had
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kind of some a challenge our current
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mayor did not run for re-election even
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though he was until this scandal
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presumed to be a shoo-in he he bowed out
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of the race and now there are 21 people
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running for mayor of Seattle and I
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should have done it it should have done
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just film no no please don't even for 22
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it's done but but so he's in the parade
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Dow is in a parade they're both riding
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sort of next to each other in their
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Corvettes awkward and buff and it's very
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awkward because Dow is a very successful
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politician who will be a national
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politician at one point in his life for
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sure I mean unless he makes a real
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misstep which I don't foresee him making
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but so I walk up in my tunic to their
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cars to say good luck gentlemen have a
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great parade on behalf of King Neptune
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of Seafarer you know have a good time in
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your parade and as I step to their car
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you you notice that the secret people
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the secret deputies I like the secret
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people I like the secret people they
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reveal the
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selves because out of the stout of the
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scrum of people who are kind of milling
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around I walk up to these cars fairly
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quickly because I'm just like mayor good
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luck have a good race you no doubt good
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luck have a fun have a fun time I'm just
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sort of moving quickly to these cars
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which are which are surrounded with a
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bubble of nobody in them because again
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sort of the presumption is like there's
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a bubble around these people yeah an
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abundance of caution and so out of the
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out of the the crowd that's on the
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periphery I step to these cars and those
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four people step forward one step and
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it's not a thing you would notice mm-hmm
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unless you were conscious of them being
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there already and knowing that they are
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all four of them vigilant enough to say
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who's this fucking guy you move in a
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move you start you start moving toward
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didn't Daenerys on on the crown a few
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people are gonna change positions that's
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right they all change position to get a
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little bit better sight line yeah and
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and they see the mayor
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you'd recognise me and put out his hand
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and say hey you know thanks and and who
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our mare is he's like you know he we'd
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we don't know each other exactly
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socially but certainly we know each
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other and he's like hi great to see
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thanks for your support he didn't
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actually say that but no really no
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that's just in his eyes it's all he
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knows how to do and then I was like
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thanks you know and so the the sheriff's
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take a step forward or the the secret
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people take a step forward but they know
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they don't have to take a second step
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forward because they they see then I'm
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being acknowledged and recognized and
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welcome you're good mm-hm
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if they I think I probably almost
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certainly that Dow and the mayor both
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have a a way of posturing themselves
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which says secret people would you
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arrive with a quickness you know stiffen
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up a little bit or something and they
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know oh it's go time
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yeah they stiffen up or they look over
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their shoulder or in some way that
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recoil mmm-hmm where that where the
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deputies will arrive on the scene but
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all of that dance it's so it's just so
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interesting and so
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you know what the hierarchy among people
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with stars on their collars is mmm-hmm
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there were two Admirals and I wanted to
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know who reported to the other and so I
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walked up to one Admiral and I said
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who's you both that you both have three
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so who's the Kahuna and the guys like
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and I'm like well he controls a carrier
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Strike Group you are commander of
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Pacific Fleet Operations who gets the
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bigger slice of cake at the at the
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reception and the guy that I'm talking
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to his wife starts to laugh and he said
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well we're in different we are different
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where we report to different we both
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report to the same guy like he doesn't
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report to me I don't report to him yeah
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yeah yeah but what's the real story
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exactly I said yeah okay so he brings
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his carrier Strike Force into your base
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if you're mad at him do you get to say
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like all right well sorry we're out of
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macaroni and cheese you don't we're not
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we're not gonna resupply you because of
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something and his wife is just fuckin
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cracking up at this point he's like well
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no first of all I'm not in charge of
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macaroni and cheese but yeah second and
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I said so what so it's the military
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there's no equal no one's equal to
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anybody that's what makes it the
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military it's like it's like when you
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get a pack of dogs yeah you can't write
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any question you got to know like here's
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your nose here's this but let's go and
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so finally he says well he has seniority
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and I said you mean he enlisted first or
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he was promoted to Admiral first oh boy
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you're not gonna let it go are you no no
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I want to know and his and his wife is
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is having the best time and he is he may
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not have thought of this for a long time
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it's so unconscious in them that he
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might not have had to break this down
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but he says both he joined before I did
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and he was promoted
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right before I was and I said but
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doesn't that make you the wunderkind
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like you are you're younger than him and
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promoted to the same rank as him and he
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ran outside agitator john roderick and
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he shows no he shows no emotion except
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just the slightest crinkle in his eye
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just the slightest flash at being
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complimented and at being recognized as
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as having made that accomplishment at a
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younger age
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mmm-hmm but he said that's not how it
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works its seniority works according to
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like age and i said thank you admiral
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you've Claire you've you know you've
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clarified things for me today and he the
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thing is both of these guys are sitting
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in the backseat of their Corvettes like
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I'm walking down the lawn okay they
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can't get away and they're kind of not
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supposed to say I don't want to talk to
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you anymore no cuz I'm the fucking King
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you're the King I have to talk to you
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and they're both sitting next to their
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wives which is a different power dynamic
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it liar hundred percent right I mean
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like we can all we can all we're doing
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our little boys thing together our men
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talking to men thing like you know
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nobody's gonna Pierce but like they each
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have their own court jester that
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actually is running the court yes and
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they are and the wives are really
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enjoying this kind of thing right this
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they're the Admiral except not not at
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home I'm sure that's true I'm sure
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that's their long-running gag but I'm
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also sure probably every single one of
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them owes their wife so much can you
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imagine all the bullshit that their
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family has gone through so that they
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could have that career all you have to
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do is watch the right stuff right oh I
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mean rather we were talking about that
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just this morning wouldn't know it was
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Sam Shepard in that yes okay that's why
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I mention it this morning because I've
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seen dally
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she loves Apollo 13 but we've never seen
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the right stuff and I was like we got to
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watch that movie it's long it's so good
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it's really long he played those ladies
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tough those are tough ladies they are
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tough and they were tough in in in
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precisely the era where
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they were expected to behave a certain
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way that you know that didn't allow them
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really to to be assertive publicly
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assertive it was a bit like like for
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generations or even millennia like they
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self-organized not de but any any group
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like that like self-organized is in the
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CIA we're like this is you know this is
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how the village gets things accomplished
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yes still very related very related
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structures in like and you put in your
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anecdote about the the Admirals and the
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Corvettes you know it's like the part
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that makes that awkward is that they
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know the answer to that question
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I bet I mean they Co they feel it oh
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yeah I mean they feel it in there you
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walk into a room and anybody you give
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any of those guys two drinks and he
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could force rank that entire room
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without even thinking about it he could
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he could fully force rank that room and
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and I bet you most people in the room
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could do the exact same thing people
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given the same amount of information and
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expertise could go up absolutely top
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guys I'm Katherine Katherine Oh all the
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way all the way down the line it's just
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that it's awkward to talk about it and
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then how would you if you if they were
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to say that to you how would they
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support that in a way that didn't sound
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like mumbo-jumbo well and there are
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people who are listening right now who
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are in the United States Armed Forces
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and who are officers and who will
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probably report to us in greater detail
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but I wonder whether when those two
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Admirals meet coming through the Rye
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mm-hmm whether the junior Admiral
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salutes first because they both know
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like I'm pretty sure all the three-star
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all the three stars out there and I
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think they are lieutenant Admirals or
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something I don't know exactly which
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which it is I'm getting yelled at about
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that but I think they probably all know
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each other almost certainly they know
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each other they are there interacting
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with each other socially and
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professionally and when they see one
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another whether the junior one even
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junior by two days
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whether they know to salute first I
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don't know that is a that's a level of
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military protocol I don't know but but
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in this little in this little corral
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that I was in there's the mayor who is
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used to being the top guy in the city
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there's the Dow Constantine who is the
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executive of the county and the county
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incorporates the city but those two have
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a relationship that is defined the
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protocol of that relationship has been
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defined for decades but still Dow is the
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more successful of the two politicians
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the one who will be in office next year
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Oh interesting so how does that work now
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the Navy is in town and these guys are
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high-ranking Navy officers how do they
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interact with a mayor of a city
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the sheriff is there he's got four stars
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on his collar the Admirals only have
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three but you also know who's the home
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team right right I think when somebody
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else is the home team you are dignified
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but differential right but like sheriff
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stars and army stars oh yeah right they
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don't they don't there's definitely
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there's like a whole like it's like a
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British Pound type situation like that's
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that's a different kind of star
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different kind of stuff mm-hmm and then
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you waltz and then you plop down in the
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middle of all of this
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a rich person so let's say there's a
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billionaire and let me have an
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influential person let's say it's Jeff
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Bezos come to the events so now Jeff
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Bezos is in the middle so now all
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picture changes for me
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he's just cackling maniacally it's just
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he's there and he's in a hyperbaric
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chamber that's also a hovercraft
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[Laughter]
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