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00:00:34 ◼   ► go back everybody to the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► i'm your host Jason Snell and tonight [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► we're going to talk about a really great [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► comic this is technically a comedy club [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► episode of the Lisa and Jason my usual [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► compatriots are here but I've got a [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► great group of people who have read this [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► comic it's from an image comics it's by [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► Brian cable on and Fiona staples and [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► it's called saga will talk about it a [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► little before firing off the spoiler [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► horn what we're going to cover in this [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► episode in total will be the first 12 [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► issues of saga which is volume 1 volume [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► 2 of the trade paperback so you can buy [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► on Amazon will have links in the show [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► notes really weird and good comic and [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► I'm looking forward to talking about for [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► the next hour with these three excellent [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► guests Dan Morgan hi dan I Jason it's a [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► pleasure beyond the complicated i'm an [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► occasional comic readers time comic book [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► club burr yeah it's exciting to have you [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► in the comic book club I didn't know you [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► read comic books and I read many comic [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► books [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Wow not as many as many times as many as [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► Tony sindelar you heard skeptically [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► questioning down there that is why I get [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► most of my comics from tony and so and [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► Tony you also i are famous for your love [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► Batman it's true was not in saga i [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► should say this is not the saga of the [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► Batman and not yet i'm really happy to [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► be here [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► um you know saga is has been described [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► as some people as a star wars for [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► perverts and you guys are two of the [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► let's say biggest star wars fans yeah [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► thank you and Merlin Mann is also back [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► for his third time on the incomparable [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► can you believe it [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► hat trick and never thought would happen [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► thanks for having me I'm glad I'm glad [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► you could you could come so bryan cave [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► on you know i first discovered his work [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► with y the last man which is excellent [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► and then i also read his entire run on [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► will run his entire encompassing story [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► of ex machina with which lisa Schmeisser [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► recommended to me and I actually liked a [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► lot and he closed both of those books up [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► finish their stories and his next big [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► project in the comics world because he's [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► also executive producing under the dome [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► the Stephen King summer TV show and he's [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► got screenplays and TV shows and all of [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► that but it worked [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► and then work on lost they did work on [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► lost for a while and read some good [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► episodes of lost and now his new comic [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► project is saga which has been out for a [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► little more than a year and it is i [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► don't i don't even know where to start [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► with this how it when the non spoiler [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► spoiler light portion before we fire out [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► the spoiler horn you know how would how [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► would we describe I mean Tony said it [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► was a it was a star wars for perverts i [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► was going to say it's a it's a fairytale [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► but not the nice friendly kind of [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► fairytale especially given that the [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► first thing we hear a character say is [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► is is the f-word as she's got a leg [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► splayed and she's giving birth so uh huh [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► it's late it's more historically [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► accurate fairytale yes general Grimm's [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► fairy tales right it's got that dark [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► aspect that's exactly what my wife said [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► and so much so I'm inclined to agree [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► with you can just as I'm inclined to [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► always agree with what my wife says yes [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► Dan yes I mean sure we're on a podcast [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► together I think we're married in some [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► units and on and the podcast marriage [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► you start with the podcast marriage [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► where do you go from there to lying cats [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► i think so people have read and [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► understand that yet [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► Merlin how would you did how would you [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► describe saga if you were trying to [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► describe it to somebody and tell them [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► why they should read it [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► um I've heard a lot of people make the [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► star wars comparison and that never I [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► didn't and I guess I kind of get that [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► superficially but without spoiling it i [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► would just say it's it's it's a love [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► story in a world of proxies it's a in [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► some ways it is very much the Romeo and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► Juliet story about these two sides are [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► part of a huge proxy war in this fantasy [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► world it is full of really remember the [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► first time you saw the cantina scene and [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► you're like wow that guy has a [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► hammerhead and just about every couple [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► of pages there is some new it's like an [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► alligator Butler it's full of fancy of [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► creatures that is totally delightful and [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► you know what we will talk i'm sure in [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► some detail about the gosh half-dozen [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► aspects that make this really unique but [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► i would say it is a really big fantasy [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► story that it probably oscillates [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► between like the deepest like [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► I'm sobbing two or three times in some [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► issues with some of the most graphic [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► violence and extreme extreme like really [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► graphic sexual content i've ever seen [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► yep such that i can read a bunch of it [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► to my daughter skipping two pages of it [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► at a time but I really really really [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► need to skip those two pages because it [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► might be a crowd lady with a vagina or [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► her intestines hanging out [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► no spoilers but i know i think it's i [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► think it's a big story told in small [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► details about a world where even love is [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► not with proxies it's that's the theme [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► that comes through for me and doesn't [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► really begin to describe what makes it [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► so special and human oddly enough but [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► yeah well I mean how much you guys [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► describe it you know what came to mind [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► when i was reading was it's like it it's [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► a family drama in some ways right like [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► it and that's what I one of the things I [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► really appreciate what about is that it [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► oscillates as you were saying between [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► this like stuff that's just crazy like [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► insane like I think they legitimately [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► almost set out to top themselves right [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► in every issue like okay you thought we [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► couldn't get any weirder for me hard [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► yeah exactly and so but it this but the [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► stuff that's important to it is the the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► Corvette is mundane and it'sit's but [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► it's beautiful and it's monday nity [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► right like it's about being a parent for [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► the first time and about how you're [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► gonna raise your child and about all [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► these these concerns are just getting [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► buy-in that I think resonate very well [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► with the kind of situations that a lot [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► of people run into even if they don't [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► run into Giants you know with clubs and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► you know general hanging out like you [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► know like you do [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► yeah it's I i wouldn't call it Star Wars [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► either I i love the fact that it is [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► almost say it's a a a fairytale style [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► story or a fantasy story you could say [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► but it's so much of our fantasy is it is [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► a tradition from 50 years ago or a [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► hundred years ago or 200 years ago [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► there's a lot of medieval is amanda lynn [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► a lot of fantasy not all but a lot of it [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► and what strikes me about this is this [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► is fantasy for people who know all the [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► sci-fi tropes know the star wars tropes [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► and so I think the best example is the [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► first to get they get a pirate map i [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► should say in the amazing first issue [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► and and again we're being light on the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► spoiler so far [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► you cannot fire Matt they're ready to [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► throw out because it looks so stupid [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► yeah because it's a pirate map and it's [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► got written on it [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► rocketship forest and i love that [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► because it's it's all of this fantasy [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► shorthand but there it's the rocketship [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► forest so there-there is all that sort [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► of sci-fi stuff and these are alien ish [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► people somebody on one planet somebody [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► on another planet they're on a different [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► planet they there there's a species with [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► sort of the ray guns in the species with [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► magic but it's able to play with all the [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► sci-fi stuff to which is not to say that [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► i would call it syfy but i would say [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► that it's got all of those campaigns [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► yell at all those colors in its palette [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► that it can use to on top of the pirate [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► maps and the strange give ghosts in the [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► forest and things like that they stumble [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► on through these first 12 issues and i [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► mean i don't know i i've read so little [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► of the fantasy genre i would not be [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► welcome in the Syracuse home runs for so [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► many reasons but you know and not take a [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► deeper dive but like it has really big [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► fan expensive really big themes it is it [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► is very Shakespearean in the way that [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► it's approached in many ways but then [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► you've also got a guy who's phone locks [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► up because it's trying to download an [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► app he has his spaceship makes a boob so [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► when he locks it and I mean there's [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► there's endless references everywhere to [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► like get like this mechanics place has a [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► garage door [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► it's just it's made out of Dragon bone [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► right that constant juxtaposition of the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► familiar with the completely outlandish [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► look is non-stop there are a couple of [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► phone calls that happen because [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► everybody's got their cellphones and [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► where they actually comment on I've got [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► a really crappy signal here and they're [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► calling like across the galaxy but they [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► still have all of these all of these [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► shorthand things from our modern world [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► put in this crazy sci-fi world there's [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► apparently still still high school and [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► super super space what you would call [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► high school [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► well one yes one race has high school [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► and the other does not know what must [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that be like uh-huh that's alien man i [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► don't understand it well I my problem is [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► I'm when it comes to comments i'm new to [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► this but I'm also extremely chris farley [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► about it when that guy is just like it [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► was really good you should read it but [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► just for one big picture part of it [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► and I think it does help to just think a [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► little bit about how nice a proxy was a [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► proxy war going on it's been going on [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► for years I explain this to my daughter [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► yes about how you know this is a lot [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► like what happens in the real world [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► where their first of all you got two [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► sides that have been fighting about [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► something for so long that nobody knows [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► why they're fighting they don't know why [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► it began but in the case of something [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► like you know the troubles in in Ireland [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► or in South Africa it doesn't matter [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► Hatfields and McCoys like your people [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► have been killed enough that it goes on [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► there's a giant planet that is like that [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► the Empire maybe but the giant ruling [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► planet which is people with wings and in [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► this case there's basically this small [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► moon of what are essentially terrorists [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► that are magic people with horns right i [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► mean is that one way to frame it and [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► it's been in but it's all being fought [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► mainly by proxies at this point right [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► like you've got the robot people and all [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► that stuff but that's one way to think [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► of it is like that yes against the [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► tapestry of this war has been going on [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► for a very long time that nobody has any [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► stake in apart from the fact that they [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► just have to keep fighting it looks like [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► i'll give the let me see if I can give a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► top-level summer here so what saga is [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► about is about two soldiers in this war [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► one from a race that has pointed ears [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► and wings but otherwise looks like [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► people and one that looks like people [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► but has horns like ram horns like curly [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► ram for antlers or antlers i guess you [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► could say whatever the little ram horns [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► ram antlers fine i apologize to the rams [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► the the st. Louis well but then there's [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► the one guy interrogation I think these [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► varieties like races is also the Rhino [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► guy [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► yeah there's around some of them are [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► clearly analyst getting some of them [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► have appointed deer antlers [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► yes sir yeah well known and the wings [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► are different too right yeah the guy [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► that gets interrogated by Prince robot [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► like smoking right now so that so their [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► wing people and they're like the horn [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► people and the horn people use magic and [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► the wing people use technology it seems [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► more or less and star-crossed lovers you [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► know we meet them [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► havin they're havin a baby there from [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► these two different races we very [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► rapidly discover that this is this is [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► not just a little bit bad oh it happens [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► sometimes it's really bad and both sides [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► are trying to kill them [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► Andy and take their baby because this [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► just can't be done it would be bad for [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► optics for the president of the one [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► group to have this be knowledge that [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► their that any cohabitation any [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► interaction that isn't war could happen [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► between these two races so that it's set [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► on the scale of this planet that is [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► beset by war where they were both [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► fighting and they run away and they have [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► a baby and just after they have the baby [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► there they're caught and they're there [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► they have to escape and they're on the [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► run and they're trying to get off this [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► planet because both sides in this giant [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► galaxy-spanning war are trying to kill [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► them and essentially that's the story [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► and and the side stories are involved [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► the bounty hunter who is hired to kill [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► them and and take the baby back a a [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► prince who is also a robot except he's [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► got the body of a man but the head of a [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► television set who just lost his leg [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► fighting a hellish war for two years [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► right but had it reattached or or had a [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► new leg attached or whatever very [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► strange and he's sent also to go to go [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► get them [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► so I it so there are a bunch of [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► different players in this crazy crazy [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► story but it's essentially about these [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► two star-crossed lovers who were just [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► trying to get away and they just had a [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► baby and they're being pursued by [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► everybody else in the galaxy and we [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► should also say one of the really [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► wonderful touches in this story is that [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► it's narrated by the baby as an adult [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and she's telling you the story and this [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► is where you get some of that fairytale [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► tone she's telling you her life story [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► from the beginning but because it's her [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► as an adult you get those moments where [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► she's alluding to things that are going [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► to happen in the future just to give it [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► some extra ominous tone Eileen normally [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► when you read something like that you'd [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► see a box in Marvel anyway you see a [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► rectangular box usually in the upper [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► left-hand corner [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► yes the narrow for the narration right [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► in this case there's like a girl's [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► handwriting just kind of you know i'm [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► guessing the narrator feels like a young [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► young adults and older team but it's [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► written in this kind of girls you know [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► handwriting just kind of background the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► page around the graphics it and it's [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► like you say there's a lot to it that's [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► it's a nice it's almost 36 [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► is almost like a chorus a lot of times [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► it's something that contrast heavily [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► with what we're looking at and reading [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► we do you know what I mean it kind of [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► puts it in relief and and very much from [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► the very beginning is dropping these [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► hints about stuff that you don't you [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► know the one man who broke my heart like [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► who's that like I don't know that is you [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► know about it that's the framing device [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► for all of this is that and it opens the [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► door to this took being told slightly [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► out of sequence at certain points i [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► almost feel like the narration with just [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► the text right over the sum of the [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► visuals kind of feels almost a little [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► bit more like the style and some [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► children books which is of course then [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► weird with the very adult image and [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► sometimes seven [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► yeah like a children's books did you [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► read geez [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► acceptable losses sob without but that's [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► part of the combination that makes this [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► very interesting is this is a rated M [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► for Mature comic book and yet it has [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► this very interesting mixture of tones [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► this is a story for adults but it is a [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► story told in the two you know in the [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► all the tools of something we think of [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► as a as a mythical kind of story for [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► kids but this isn't for kids it's a it's [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► a fascinating combination Merlin I'm so [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► glad that you mentioned the the way the [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► narration is written I was going to [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► mention that it's great and I i was [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► especially noticing there's a bit where [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► she points at a at a rocket ship while [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► she's describing it in the narration and [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► at the end of the sentence there's a [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► little arrow drawn and pointing at the [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► rocket ship that is being annotated [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► almost like it's a journal we have Fiona [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► staples you know just her artwork and I [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► believe she does the handwriting that's [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► it i just got a tooth from my friend [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► image Jennifer reduced lunches said that [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► the narration saga is actually and [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► staples yeah right it's amazing and and [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► so it looks great and that is that adds [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► to the quality of it that it's [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► handwritten on there it doesn't feel [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► like every other comic book with the box [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► with the text in it right it's it's not [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► all a straight line or anything it's [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► being written in a journal basically i [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► am more of a story person an art person [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► with comics but the art in saga is just [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► it's really impressive and I mean I've [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► been reading brand cave on stuff for a [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► long time and not to say the art in [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► his other titles was bad but the art in [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► the end up in saga is particularly [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► noteworthy it's really impressive and [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► people to check that out [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► yeah they have not already flipped [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► through yeah probably want to buy it [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► yes it doesn't it doesn't you know it [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► when I just try to describe this you [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► know i'll be that guy about stuff like [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► that I'm here talking about totoro or [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► you know the wire or arrested [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► development all these things like in the [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► case of some of those things where you [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► have to have a huge investment to like [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► basically commit to this big thing and [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► I've always feel like soccer has such a [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► place in my heart it such a small amount [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► of time that has been out and I want to [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► describe people to people in the way [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► that's gonna kind of most you know [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► resonate with them and it's it's really [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► difficult to pick out the one part of [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► this that grabs you the most because you [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► don't want to say like oh there's some [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► family stuff in here that really hits [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► close to home [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► I mean whether you have kids are not [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► especially if you have kids but if you [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► don't have kids you definitely have [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► grandparents and their stuff about this [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► is going to like really grab you even [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► though they're Rams or whatever you do [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► you know what I mean yeah it's not it's [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► not important I mean it's the same way [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► that you felt like you made a Star Wars [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► comparison a couple times with the same [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► way you felt like when you're like wow [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► okay maybe Yoda is just a puppet but [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► like you know there's an actual there's [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► an actual emotion conveyed by that right [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► star wars is not just about gunfights [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► right superficially it's about one thing [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► but it's hard it's really about [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► something else [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► I'm sorry I I couldn't talk way too much [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► about this because it's found such a [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► place in my life today I had absolutely [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► no problem reading all 12 issues again [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► up and and I IE there's so much to it [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► first of all in some ways I can't [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► believe how little happened over 12 [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► issues in some ways but at the same time [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► it's astonishing like how many quotable [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► lines and I don't know and I don't [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► overstate it but like really i'll just [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► say extremely memorable characters come [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► up in the space of those few issues [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► I'm I'm gotta be one of the in the top [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► 5% of x-men fans of all time but you [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► could you could you could slide your way [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► through you know a hundred and fifty is [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► clear and not come up with quite this [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► mini like amazingly memorable lines and [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► characters even if they're just they're [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► like I say that the alligator Butler [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► just things that are in there for a [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► couple fart fart isn't in there for more [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► than what like four pages five pages but [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► nobody's ever going to forget the first [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► time they see fard [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► you know but it never it never gets away [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► like we should i say though about like [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► you or whatever Kermit the Frog you know [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► if if you know if Wayne Newton had sung [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► the rainbow connection that might have [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► been very touching but the fact that [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► it's a little felt frog in a boat with a [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► banjo like why does that make me want to [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► sob you know there's something about [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► this that makes it even more human in [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► some ways [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► well it touches something that it [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► touches something that is innate right [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► like that isn't yeah I don't know what [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► it is it's hard states in that is that [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► very intangible nature of it where it's [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► like anything when you watch a movie and [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► it's not like okay yeah there's [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► something that is that is texturally sad [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► about this because like what is [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► happening is sad but it makes you think [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► it's the it's the empathic response [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► right where it's like oh my god what if [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► that was me in this situation and like [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► you know what if I especially you know [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► we think about stuff and you talk about [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► me having kids [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► everybody's got parents to write like [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► think about your parents it's like oh my [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► god you know here's an example of [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► somebody losing a parent right like [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► everybody can relate to that to a [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► certain extent like everybody can relate [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► to the idea of losing a parent or a [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► loved one and i think that you know that [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► strikes home and makes us and especially [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► when it's done in a very genuine fashion [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► as opposed to in a very artificial [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► fashion which we see a lot of times in [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► certain things i think you know a lot of [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► a lot of superhero comics are prone to [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► do that like let's kill off a person [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► just like get a visceral response right [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► you know and it doesn't really have [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► necessarily the same kind of thing [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► especially because in most comic books [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► you know death is merely a temporary [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► obstacle whereas you know this it saga [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► does not seem like that kind of world [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► right you know stuff is permanent stuff [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► happens and it makes you leave scars and [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► and makes marks on people [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► alright let's talk for a moment about [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► our sponsor for this episode of the [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► uncomfortable we have a sponsor for the [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► stuff that we do we do this [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► I'm not it's not a practical joke no we [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► don't know I just saying like that we [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► don't always know about what was our [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► sponsor tell me this week on mass it's [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► called into it's a comic app which is [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► perfect for this episode because we're [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► talking about saga [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it's called chunky comic reader and it's [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► an ipad app so i know i don't know if [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► you have GF comics that are in some some [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► of these various formats your CBR CBC's [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► yeah I might have a couple of PBR [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► Yankees lying around the pdfs might [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► three-letter mighty la's I've got [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► acronyms yeah that's some of those i got [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► a bunch of PDFs from Marvel I've got a [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► bunch of CBR that i downloaded from [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► various corners of the Internet of [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► comics that I own that are out of print [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► I mean I'm let's start on the up-and-up [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► here but you know the Micronauts are not [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► in print anymore and if i want to read [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► them on my iPad I can't imagine why them [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► anywhere so I have them downloaded i [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► know it is hard to well this legal [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► I'm just saying because I I think you [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► you may be the only person to have [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► invested in i don't i don't think that's [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► true [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► there there are many of us out there Dan [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► but very small sure your evil they are [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► the microbots they're tiny dancer can't [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► even see it anyway so you take a sheet [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► cbrc beezies pdfs these are comic book [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► formats and you can read them in they [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► don't read in something like comiXology [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► read them in an app like chunky comic [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► reader so chunky comic reader runs on [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► the iPad you can connect it to your mac [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► via or pc i suppose if you are that way [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► by USB and just drag the comic files [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► over you can also hook chunky comic [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► reader up to dropbox and you can load [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► your files over from dropbox and there [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► are other comic readers out there on the [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► app store but the cool thing about [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► chunky comic reader is that it makes [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► them look great it makes the comics look [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► great and it's focused on making your [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► comics look good and read really easily [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► which is the whole thing that is that's [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► kind of the point right of of a cop III [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► mean you don't want you don't read [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► comics look Carol that is looking at [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► them is the whole point so this [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► obviously it's only working with the drm [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► free stuff like we said see crc beezies [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► and PDFs but what they've done is the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► developers have done a ton of work [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► behind the scenes to make them look [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► sharp and clear there are a couple [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► different modes if you're on an ipad 2 [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► or an ipad mini i was looking at this [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► earlier there's a mode that does some [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► really nice work so when it's assumed [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► out it does this nice [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► it's sort of like downsampling to make [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► it clear even though you're you're [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► looking at a much larger image in a [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► smaller space if you're on a Retina [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► display and you zoom really into it it [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► does some work to make it not look [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► blotchy it makes it a lot clearer by [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► upsampling it so that the whole idea [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► here is that it's gonna look good [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► turning the pages is kind of fun the [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► flipping effect is is this like it's [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► like a little almost like a blurry kind [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► of like the slides and [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► get the next page and it is i will say [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► this the best library organization that [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► I've seen from any ipad comic reader you [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► drag your files in and you open the app [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► and it's figured it out i don't know how [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► it does it I don't know how it knows it [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► automatically groups your comics by the [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► individual comics that they're in so [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► you'll see like particular series and a [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► bunch of covers and tap on one to read [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► it when you get to the end it'll prompt [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► you for the next one it's really really [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► nice [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► you might say that sits superpower it [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► could be I don't know how it gets it [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► could be a mutant app it's amazing apple [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► left to do this mutant app through the [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► app store did the Sentinels of the App [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► Store not sense for the cerebro if you [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► will if you want to go that way i don't [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► know i mix XP well all the better for us [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► right i mean that's that's really what [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► kind of sense so really chunky comic [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► reader show your comic some love it's [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► four bucks [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► although for the rest of august it's [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► gonna be two bucks i say i'm just [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► looking at right now six is very old and [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► it really does look good I was opening [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► up by open but micronauts i opened up [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► pdf I've got of the x-men i opened up a [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► PDF of sorts of the swashbucklers which [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► is a graphic novel that was available in [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► PDF that's by film at low in and which [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► guys who did micronauts because it all [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► comes back to the microphones with me [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► and and a bunch of other stuff so it's [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► just a really nice ipad comic reader so [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► if you are comic fan and you've got an [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► ipad you owe it to yourself to try [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► chunky comic reader its four bucks and [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► it's two bucks right now by the until [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► the end of august to point your browser [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► and chunky reader dot-com or just go to [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► the app store and search for chunky [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► comic reader the comics look great you [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► got a retina iPad makes those look [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► better to get my iPad Mini makes those [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► look better [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► it's a no-brainer chunky comic reader [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► and thanks to chunky comic reader for [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► fortuitously sponsoring this very [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► episode of the uncomfortable so before [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► we go any further I i think i'm going to [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► use this opportunity to fire off the [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► spoiler horn before you know we spoil [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► even more from these 12 issues [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► but before we get too deep into it i [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► wanted to say something immoral and [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► talked about these 12 issues and have a [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► hundred and fifty fifty issues with [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► chris claremont into trades 12 issues [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► and and some of these are these are [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► actually longer than your your standard [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► comic it and what impressed me about it [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► is is on one level on what level you [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► could say well what happened in these 12 [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► issues they were on one planet they got [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► their spaceship they floated around and [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► almost got sucked in a in a time suck [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► and then they went to visit the favorite [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► author of one of the main characters and [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► you could say not a lot happened but the [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► trade-off for not having it be like you [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► know I think they told the entire plot [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► of star wars in four issues in 1978 [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► what you get is the richness you've got [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► multiple storylines and you've got all [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► this detail and so although we don't we [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► don't have you know you get the sense [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► that the story may take awhile in terms [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► of issues what we get is so rich that [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► that really impressed me that that I'm [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► you know that one point I think we go an [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► entire issue or an issue and a little [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► bit where we've literally we haven't [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► gone back to the will who is the bounty [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► hunter he's exactly where we left him [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► like an issue and a half ago [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► it's that decompressed a story and i'm [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► not complaining about just I'm kind of I [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► think that's why they're able to provide [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► the richness that the story doesn't have [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► those characters is is they don't rush [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► it that that they take the time to have [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► character moments in in ways that some [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► some comics don't because they rush and [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► just wanna rip off as much plot as [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► possible and i don't want to say that [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► things don't happen to my god [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► lots of things happen thats exactly that [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► it's exactly what i was thinking I mean [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► you'll see [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► yes like me you may be able to describe [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► the main plot point of the story in a [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► paragraph without much problem but that [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► doesn't get you anywhere near what's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► actually happening in and just to be [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► clear it isn't like a bust a gut thing [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► where somebody goes into a monologue for [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► six pages you know it's [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► it really there's no Bendis meetings in [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► this one [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► what do you think Black Panther nothing [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► no no absolutely end but but but you [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► might be interrupting also think about [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► the relatively small number of locations [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► i mean the Prince robot you know jumps [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► around and so forth but I mean there [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► aren't there like it isn't like you're [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► in a woman's i love about star wars is [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► marching towards parts stores is how and [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► especially the first movie how elegant [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► the storytelling is about moving from [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► location location and you get the white [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► and now we know that your little car is [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► driving into this crazy City where the [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► planes go [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► ok now we're in place this is most [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► likely right understand it there's a lot [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► of lot of very great pacing of the scene [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► changes but every scene change at least [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► from the family's point of view every [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► scene change every spaceship change and [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► I'll has a lot of portent to it you know [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► they don't just jump in like you know [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► they don't like Steve McQueen they don't [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► just jump into a different Mustang or [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► getting into this particular wooden [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► spaceship ends up having a lot of [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► significance to it and and that allows [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► them to let this story unwind in its own [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► way and something as simple as I mean [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► one more quick side note but there's [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► nothing about the delightfulness of this [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► that you can explain to anybody without [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► it sounding incredibly stupid [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► father-in-law that you just met made you [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► this really sexy bulletproof outfit out [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► of plants [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► what okay all right I not only to get [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► another one [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► okay there's this guy who has an [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► ex-girlfriend is kind of a crab with [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► lots of weapons and he has a cat can [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► tell whether you're telling the truth [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► ok anything no matter what no more no [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► matter what I tried none of the details [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► matter right for selling it to something [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► where's this pink blowing teen ghost who [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► has nothing is there a unicorn is there [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► a rainbow you like books with what with [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► guys with horns and you like books with [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► guys wings you're gonna love this one [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► couple i hope my opening line to every [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► person i try to turn onto this comic and [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► generally somite with there's no Hawkeye [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► and Sokka are the 2 comments were like [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► I'm gonna tell you once but then i'm [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► going to just buy your copy [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► dan does that sound familiar I read both [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► of those recently thanks to thanks to [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► its yeah basically those are the two [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► ones i'm recommending well no I just [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► thought i did it today i took my friend [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► comic store and bottom the two traits of [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► Hokkaido I'm gonna buy you this comic [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► and I want you to at least read the [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► first is [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► you have it but the thing I say to all [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► of them is let me just be upfront about [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► this nothing about this should work [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► describing this story to somebody [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► pitching this is somebody like like [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► totoro I guess nothing about this should [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► it sounds even the best parts of it [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► sounds so clichéd I I go so far as to [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► say this is the kind of work that could [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► only come from somebody who had the the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► background and the clout of bryan cave [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► on who had had these successful comics [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► in the past because otherwise I don't [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► know how you would even sell this and I [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► don't know who would pick it up but [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► people picked it up because it was the [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► new bryan cave on project and somebody [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► said yes because well you know bryan [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► cave on will let him do it and and I'm [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► not sure somebody else would have been [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► allowed to do it which it doesn't change [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► the fact that it's it's fantastic it's [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► just it's so hard to describe and it's [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► such a weird cell [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► yeah somebody else might have had a [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► harder time even if they produced it [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► getting it picked up right and in terms [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► of getting past five issues or six [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► issues right so we should let's let's [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► talk about the characters a little bit i [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► got that rather than trying to walk [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► through the plot I i think that the [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► merlons gotta write that the characters [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► here so interesting and since I fired [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► the spoiler horn and were free to talk [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► about these these characters so we [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► should start with our our protagonist i [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► guess i really want to talk about the [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► line cat but let's tighten and let's [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► start with our protagonist who are Marco [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► and Alana right yeah [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► mhm so Marco has he's the one with the [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► horns [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► yeah the muny he's a Moonie he's from [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► the moon the moon free and and and Alana [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► is this the soldier from the the main [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► planet whose landfall boo in done so uh [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► so Marco Marco is he's got horns we are [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► we established that he has vowed not to [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► use his sword B&B we learned that he is [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► a conscientious objector [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► whoo-hoo-hoo I'll tell you re reading it [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► was fascinating because not only do i [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► pick up a lot of the of subtle things [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► that I know I didn't notice before but I [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► picked up a lot of things that I said oh [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► he's planning that there to pay off [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► later like you think this is not [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► important now but in 13 issue [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► i'm going to say haha do you remember [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► when I said that her shirt was [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► bulletproof [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► well so Marco is conscientious objector [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► he's not going to use a sword anymore [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► he's taken prisoner and I and that's [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► where he meets Alana he surrendered on [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► the field yeah yeah because he didn't [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► want to fight anymore and then of course [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► he does eventually use his sword and [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► like kill an entire squadron of Whitney [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► people he's a little bit of a badass he [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► goes he goes totally berserker his wife [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► has to shoot him to get him to stop [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► killing people many breaks the sword in [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► order to get the the rocketship so so [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► and then he's got a family [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► I'm you know he's his mom and dad show [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► up in a wonderful wonderful sequence [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► that the last thing I think i was [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► expecting in the story with to have his [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► mom and dad show up that time my [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► grandparents up on the rocket ship they [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► were shooting at me i was shooting at [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► them anyway and he's got a he's got an [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► ex-girlfriend and their wedding rings [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► are actually the ones that he was [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► supposed to use with her but he gave it [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► to alana instead you know [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► good good character interesting [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► interesting i mean i-i didn't so much of [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► the so much of this is on the on the [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► richness of the supporting cast that I [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► think it's easy to to you know the these [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► guys are a little more straightforward [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► in some ways because they're there the [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► there who we expect to be our our [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► protagonist right I'd like to bryan cave [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► on you just a little bit here and the [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► terms of groundwork I think it's worth [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► mentioning it [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► Marco he's a vicious well trained killer [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► yes to the first time he sees battle [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► says you know what I'm done I can't do [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► this but his family I you know I don't [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► use that term terrorist his he says I'd [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► like to be called freedom fighters but [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► that they're there they are the store [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► looking for the guerrillas right that [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► the people on on the moon is the [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► resistance that what's the moon called [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► mamuni 33 but people have wreaths are [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► basically they're like what they liked [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► the vehicon they're like the contrast [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► they're the ones who are trying to [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► undermine through guerrilla warfare this [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► big planet so just I think it's worth [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► mentioning that his parents are hundred [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► percent like died in their hardcore that [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► this is what we do this is what we do [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► and you know and and of course back on [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► land fall they just got they've got all [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► the power they've got all the money [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► they've got the ability to hire all [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► these people to work for them but it's a [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► disproportionate war has been fought you [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► know for years and you know that they [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► hit the end of the video [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► neither one of them has that much skin [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► in the game until they realized the skin [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► they have in the game is like for the [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► this relationship that's when they get [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► really passionate anyway just want to [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► mention that his parents are bad assets [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► you know that his dad obviously a little [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► bit on the softer side that his mom [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► yes like seriously I mean I loved I you [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► know it's such an interesting way to [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► introduce them as we were saying and I I [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► really came to love his dad so quickly [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► totally only only to ya hard on the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► spoiler hard right [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► yes we did get all the only to have him [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► taken away from us so its mission i [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► cried twice so I he did he did warn us [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► and say that he didn't have long to live [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► and boy was he right but he's great [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► because he used the spinning wheel and [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► he makes the clothes and and and he he [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► sees what his son season Alana and the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► mother is a little more wrapped up in [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► the warrior part of it and the father he [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► gets it you know in a way that I thought [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► was pretty cool [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► well he reminded me of like I don't know [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► like not like my uncle or something [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► right like there's a certain amount of [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► that that a funkier charm that he has [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► that he's like oh he could never really [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► be mad at anybody for that long right [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► I don't know it's just it yeah he does a [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► great job of drawing that that character [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► in just a couple subtle strokes like [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► several brushstrokes and you said that [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► you have an idea of who that character [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► is right right [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► this is part of what i was trying to [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► play my kid today without going you know [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► about ruining her for life worse that i [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► have is you know without getting a hard [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► not to [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► I think it's a fascinating piece of of [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► not just contemporary life of kind of [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► just of the human condition that we get [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► entrenched in these these kinds of [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► ongoing Wars where we dehumanize the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► other side and you know when I say [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► something like the troubles or south [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► africa or whatever what you might [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► remember it you know you know it started [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► because somebody has a different opinion [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► about whether this blood is there this [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► piece [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► bread is jesus what it really means is [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► like my brother lost his leg because of [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► the orange marchers or whatever like [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► what you really remember is like this [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► Hatfield got killed because of that [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► McCoy and that's why we fight back and [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► so on and so forth [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► what I got on this reading I like what [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► you said Jason about that because as [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► much as I've devoured these going back I [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► picked up a lot [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► the one that I got this time reading it [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► straight through was that horrible word [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► miscegenation what I really got this [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► time is how much you know and I mean I'd [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► love to come back to proxies at some [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► point that everybody's always hiring [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► someone else to do something whether [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► it's Jack termine bone or kill their [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► their enemy or capture someone's baby [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► everybody wants this baby and they want [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► these people captured because it's [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► almost like somebody screwing a monkey [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► like these people are so nobody can even [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► believe that like the the times that [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► these free combinations of horns and [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► wings have happened the baby hasn't [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► lived because it's such a horrible like [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► abomination of nature you see this may [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► be my daughter sees baby she I can't [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► take the comic away from her because [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► she's looking for pages with the baby on [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► it it has horns and wings and it's [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► completely adorable you know it's you [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► know what I mean it's the the way that [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► either side in this battle sees the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► other side first of all as a complete [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► monster but the only thing worse than [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► that monster is somebody on your side [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► who would have a baby with that monster [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► and it just makes both sides so mad and [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► there might be more to this that we get [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you down down the stream but like I [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► think at the beginning it helps [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► understand it [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► everybody's after because they're like [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► the Duke boys right everybody's added [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► that a part of it is there so that they [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► hate that this has happened but they're [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► also angry that that that they would so [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► not only betray their side but then they [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► would make this abomination of the baby [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► is the one thing everybody agrees on [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► outside of this family is that this baby [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► should have never ever happened I I [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► think that's yeah there is something [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► very much in that in this whole idea of [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► the other right of vilifying the other [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► just because that's that's unfamiliar an [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► alien and I think you know in this comic [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► to those reading it [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► everything's kind of alien right so you [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► know I think there's not a lot of [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► Allegiance you come in like one way or [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► the other right like all those guys have [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► wings as important as well that's all [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► kinda weird so what gets I don't really [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► you know think too hard about that but [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► but even then they did you know there's [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► kind of these faceless forces on either [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► side but they then make the kind of the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► operatives for each team you know become [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► these characters that there and explore [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► so you know we're gonna find out about [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► the freelancer who has been employed by [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► by the wings and we're gonna find out [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► about the you know the robot friends [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► you know if not there they're not [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► looking well I could I was a faceless [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► poor choice of words for the robot [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► prints but um you know that he's got a [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► facebook is a CRT monitor [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► yeah well to face you know they're gonna [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► they're gonna be characters that we're [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► gonna learn about to tell you know so [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► Alana strange happenings one of the [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► things about Alana as I as I sort of [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► vaguely push through various characters [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► is uh is that she she's an interesting [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► character because she's an outsider that [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► way there's a scene where she is like in [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► the guard room or something and and the [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► squid who's in the in the plastic mole [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► says to her her other guard partner boy [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► she's you know basically she's miserable [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► to be around because she she's excited [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► about this book that is you know this of [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► turns out to be the sort of really big [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► incredibly boring yet subversive in its [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► boring this book which is a very funny [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► recurring bit and you know and then she [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► you know she actually beats the crap out [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► of Marco because you won't shut up but [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► it but she that was their meat cute but [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► they've they fall in love and she shoots [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► his chain off and says go not a [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► euphemism [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► and if she says go go go get out of your [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► escape and they ended up escaping [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► together i gotta talk about the book [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► first I know because I'm yes you talking [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► upon it i think i think i love the I [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► love that in its be goes back to what we [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► were talking about before about those [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► elements of manatee like that's what the [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► book is right it's the mundane it's [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► literally like you want to order a pizza [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► tonight y'all thinks it's a potboiler [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► anything like that sucks [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► heroes like I rolling 30 books like who [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► cares i was just trying to get a [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► paycheck but it'sit's like you can [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► understand from her perspective why it's [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► so powerful and why it's so important in [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► a in a world where everything the [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► mundane is like violence and war right [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► like that's the everyday is we're stuck [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► in this war and have been stuck in this [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► war for so [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► one that we don't remember so what's [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► comforting is this idea like let's just [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► hang out and watch TV you know I and [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► it's almost like limping into all of our [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► back into all of our own lives which is [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► a little weird because it gets kinda [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► self-reflective they're like oh I guess [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► my life is sitting around reading comic [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► books about aliens and tried to get away [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► and therefore the people who are the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► aliens in the comic books a reading life [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► about getting away into my reality it's [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► a rock monster who enjoys sitting on the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► couch and watching to ordering takeout [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► you know what did you guys I mean I [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► think i can get this as much until this [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► secondary but I also volunteers to see [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► if you guys agree with this but I i got [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► that seriously [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► Alana was not a great soldier no no I [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► like the second she wasn't nobody liked [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► her but also she wasn't particularly [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► distinguished in any way i like the idea [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► that she was like oh she was like she's [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► like the Maria Hill of this operator [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► they did they say where she was [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► they say that she was parked on this [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► world and and somebody actually says [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► seriously they still send people there [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► but that was an urban myth that's like [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that was a joke right that you can't be [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that bad and she's a private right [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► ladies he literally like the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► lowest-ranked she's given the guard duty [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► on this terrible world she's not even [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► really that good at that because she's [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► it's around reading her books all the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► I mean yeah there's this very [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► interesting because she is paired up of [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► course then with marco who is like a [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► total badass so it is a very bizarre [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► it's a little bit of an odd couple going [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► on [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► yeah okay can we talk about the will of [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► the will but the will is the is the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► freelancer bounty hunter the first the [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► first real answer [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► yeah he he he is an interesting cat he [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► also has a cat the lion cat who is his [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► sidekick and does nothing except growl [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► and say lying when somebody lies which [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► is inconvenient even for the will [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► sometimes and somebody is why haven't [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► you killed that cat misses believe me [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► I've tried and you're a lying cat [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► doesn't say lying at that burn that what [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► I mean like there's so many so many you [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► know you see all these these ridiculous [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► plot devices that people throw into [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► things thinking they're being clever and [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► I've never had seen a plot device that I [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► love more than one [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► and cat and it comes up at the most [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► immediate at the exactly perfect times i [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► just posted a picture of this earlier [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► the one with the phone rings and it's [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► fucking coming call from the stock and [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► and and with the will is like I'm [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► expecting a call from that keyword again [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► the cat goes my and then we'll just [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► stares at her [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► yeah yeah there's there's something [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► fascinating about that too because then [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► you have this whole like philosophical [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► thing like well was he lying does he [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► pick it up because the cats that he was [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► lying or ya know but he relies on he [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► also relies on her to say he looks to [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► her is like the person telling the truth [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► he's a key like that the cat is a key [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► partner in this in this range and so [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► much so that when the cast life is in [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► jeopardy which was the other point where [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► I was like oh my god you know it gets [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► blown out into space yeah because it's [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► like okay this is this is a character [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► that it literally has like one line and [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► yet they do such a good job of being [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► like oh my god no don't get the wine cat [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► no no don't get the lying cat and you [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► know there is a moment of feeling like [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► you're watching the will be like no okay [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► now I'm not gonna let the cat right like [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► in that there's something there's [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► something very effective in that which [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► is strange that you should feel that [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► much empathy for a character that is a [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► cat with one but it works yeah it worked [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► and that's that's across an issue break [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► so there's a and its really well setup [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► where I think that's also the woman [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► grandpa there's a there's a panel [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► there's a set of panels yet is where [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► they terrible where where they showed [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► the the damage that's being done to the [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► spaceships is after one is acceptable [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► loss and then and then flip the page at [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the narrator says that and then you flip [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► the page to see the line cat drifting in [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► space and we and then it's not until the [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► next issue where the will basically [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► jumps out into space to get the line cat [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► and bring it back so use you also have [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► the whole month where you don't know if [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► the lion cat is gonna make it we keep we [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► keep the railing so the will is a [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► freelancer sorry i keep the railing no [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► no we're talking about the will the will [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► is interesting too because he gets this [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► job and he obviously got this [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► ex-girlfriend or sometime girlfriend who [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► is this complete badass a freelancer her [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► own self [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► who's like a crab net crab lady and and [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► then she is killed by Prince robot [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► sure about the fourth we call it for [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► which will get 2i and so that's upset [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► him and then he also has this whole [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► diversion where he's on this he decides [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► to take the the credit card that's been [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► given to him as an advance for going and [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► finding his targets finding our friends [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► and he decides to go to the sex planet [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► with it to just have a good time except [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► he doesn't have a good time I and he [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► finds a young girl who's been sold into [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► sex slavery and decides he's going to [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► free her so there's this whole diversion [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► with him that is fascinating in some [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► ways because you've got this example of [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► how he is and it like he kills people [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► together murderer out he went he pops [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► the head of the guy who leads him to the [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► the underage roll let's just say he [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► didn't go there to free a slave girl he [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► went there and was approached by the the [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► creepy groomer guy because he wanted [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► like something extremely dangerous [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► beyond like spanking men in a window [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► like he wanted something serious [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► he's not a nice guy yea he's not a nice [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► guy and yet he has these he has these [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► moments like trying to trying to free [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► the slave girl so he's a fascinating [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► character because he's not and he's [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► completely the muzzle and he's the most [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► visually human-looking character [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► yes yes right he's basically a bald [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► human yeah yeah you're right with the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► with a cloak that blocks bullets [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► yes and fire to it all just sucks fired [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► nine and he's he's had a fancy spaceland [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► yes he said he says he's a badass but he [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► is um yeah he's interesting in that he's [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► awful and yet also redeemable in there [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► yet in the words of one of our earlier [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► pocket he has a code [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► yes right is that there's a little bit [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► of both fenton you know [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's got a man's got him [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► code boba fett without a hat [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah but of course heated that [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► makes us like him just enough to be [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► concerned about the fact that his goal [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► in life is very specifically to find our [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► friends and kill them and that's his job [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► and that's what he wants his money for [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► then he's joined by marcos ex-girlfriend [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► who has motivation to have him killed [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► and she also wants her wedding rings [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► back for translation wanna get up again [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► the proxies they like a yes to me this [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► is so prevalent because they have an [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► agent the [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► stock in the Delta stopping the will [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► Sharon aj do they have amazing yeah [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► because they have this guy who's like [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► this Robert Evans character who likes [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► its on each the seahorse the sea horse [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► on the beach is like he's exactly is a [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► seahorse on line one and you see I'm [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► gonna take this i got an incoming call [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► here again because he is exactly like [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► that happen well as well I hear your [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► buddy i hate but you gotta do this for [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► me I those characters like him and like [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► the one guy who's like that with the [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► shield guy forget his name the guy with [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the the guy with the with the cell phone [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► this is characters that you instantly [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► recognizable i mean i could see i forget [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► that i forget the guys name the guy from [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the guy that's working for the king [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► you know is from ya special ops [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► specialist with that means I could [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► totally see like sam rockwell playing [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► that guy he's a very sound Sam Rockwell [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► in you know iron man two kind of like [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► like Greece a character reminds me of [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► Ellis from die hard [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► no yeah we'll Bobby yeah so who else we [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► have four let's talk about the robots [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► because this is fat this is one of the [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► things that I think is bizarre and [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► fascinating about this is we have so [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► many questions that the royal family of [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► robots as far as we can tell they are it [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► looks like they're kind of the client of [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► that the primary people that have been [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► hired by landfall to fight this war at [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► scale right right so there there it's [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► unclear to me whether they are sort of [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► under there like a a a colony of land [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► father they talk because there's there's [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► a little bit where they talk about it [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► it's like they have like you know they [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► have like a an arrangement but they're [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► not and it's like they say like or they [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► are customers are they [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► oh yeah i'm skeptical about what the [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► power relationship is between landfall [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► in the robot ralph is the robot seem to [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► be important they do they seem to be [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► very important and yet they do have a [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► people with wings giving them partial [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► orders so it's kind of unclear about [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► whether there are truly sort of [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► employees or whether they may be a [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► little more sinister devious the map i [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► mean i think we can understand that it's [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► not something they can slough off [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► I mean it seems to me that this robot [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► for is the son of the king and he's just [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► thought in what I would perceive to be [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► 42 years he's been fighting their [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► version of like the Battle of the Bulge [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► has been in this incredibly hellish war [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► and again [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► completely unsympathetic character that [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► you end up feeling sympathy for he's had [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► this horrible experience he's trying to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► have a baby [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► he apparently can't get a boner he's [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► confused about what we know what he what [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► he [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► what's going to happen in his life he's [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► a totally like hateable character and [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► yet very human even though he has a TV [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► forehead you should describe what they [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► look like [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► yeah so the robot people they when we [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► first see them they're dressed up and [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► they've got a TV for ahead it is [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► literally a big bulbous TV set and the [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► men have rabbit ears and the women [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► apparently don't but but Prince robot [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► the fourth has wrapped that has ever [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► happened to your eyes and know that [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► either on the back of his head and yet [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► then not too long thereafter of course [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► as Merlin alluded to we see Prince robot [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► and his and his princess having sex and [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► I get that page with my daughter yeah I [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► think I was not widely I don't [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► understand and uh in an unconventional [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► slight slightly unconventional position [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► all the better to anyway they're naked [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► and their human-like accepted android [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► humanoid and you actually it's not even [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► like you don't get the sense that [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► they're cyborgs because the skin is like [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► the next skin it's all smooth up into [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► the TV set [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► they almost kinda look they look kind of [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► like you know classical Greek statues [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► with TV it's because our kind of like [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► grace Tony looked so they're they're [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► called it's Prince robot but he's not [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► really a robot at least so far as we can [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► see because he appears to be completely [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► sort of fleshy other than the he can [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► turn his arm into a gun he can turn his [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► arm into so cool so its energy also you [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► know Merlin is right there's a there's a [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► great moment while he's having sex with [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► his lady where he something shows up on [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► the TV set and he's unable to perform so [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► there's this week it is weird biological [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► and everyone's got TV PTSD [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► yeah it's crazy so I I mean anywhere [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► you're right he's a fascinating [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► character because he is he's introduced [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► is really being a monster and and and [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► yet you start to realize that [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► essentially his biz pregnant wife it's [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► being basically held hostage by the [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► ruler [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► of landfall even monsters have jobs [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► Jason yeah and he's being sent to go [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► kill our friends but uh you know he [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► doesn't want to do it because he not [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► because it's wrong but because he really [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► would like a vacation and everybody has [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► a box and he spoiled obviously you get [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► the sense because he's a prince is the [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► son of the king and all that it's just [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► so bizarre one of the most bizarre [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► characters understand it's like it's a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► horrible combination because obviously [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► his father has sold him out he's been if [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► we if I understand this correctly he's [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► been in this two-year war that everybody [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► and this is sounds like this is one of [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► those if i'm reading this right this is [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► one of those wars were heavy casualties [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► were felt on both sides i'm going [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► through this kind of world war two jag [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► right now but hey it sounds like one of [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► those Wars we're like there was a lot of [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► atrocities on both sides a lot of people [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► lost their friends a lot of people did a [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► lot of stuff that they're not happy with [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► and this guy went through that and the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► thing is he's royalty you know he is [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► he's the whatever your highness not your [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► majesty whatever anyway he's right he's [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► he but he's been there for two years he [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► comes home his wife desperate his wife [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► who is a serious partisan she's very [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► much in the camp where is this guy's [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► mostly you know he's a soldier but he's [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► got a job to do and and right at the [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► moment when he's ready to like it [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► through his TV PTSD and have a have a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► baby you know why my him like but he's [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► compelled to go back out into that and [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► so he has a lot of skin in the game more [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► about skin in the game like and that is [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► not quickly as possible so he can get [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► back to you know having this family [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► first remember when I thought you were [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► going to say that his wife is a serious [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► hottie and I was going to say man that [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► console he / she wants to keep her baby [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► don't ask about our resolution okay no [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► that's not cool [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► its lucky am i right yeah that I i was [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► thinking in particular that the [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► flashback that we get from him in the [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► issue 12 where we see you know basically [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► in getting wounded on the battlefield in [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► which i think was another one of those [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► excellently moving scenes where [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► basically you know the medic comes over [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► impact your blouse mother Mouse very [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► adorable mouse madman and you're like [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► alone its mouth guard oh no I using [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► school it's got his face when he says [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► they didn't give you wouldn't get a mask [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► oh my god table and you see the you know [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► but the prince is actually concerned [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► right yeah like the princes like get [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► your game [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► mass come on like you just saved my life [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► you know don't you can't die here and [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► then the just explodes and it's just [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► really tries to increase consultant to [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► he goes users [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► oh I didn't think of me asking so well [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► it's alright i'm sure it'll be fine and [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► then explodes [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► he's trying right he's trying to but [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like you know into Merlin's point about [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► the PTSD like you know he sees this [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► happened right in front of it right like [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► so there's and you know despite being a [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► quote on quote robot-like clearly that [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► affects him in some way we see that he's [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► thinking about its on his mind was also [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► thinking about something else in a [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► rather famous panel that cause image to [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► withdraw this and I don't wanna I don't [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► wanna you know pop the clutch here but [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► it's something I want to talk about what [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► causes what to appear on the screen [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► because i am still not figured it out i [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► I'm a little unclear how much of it into [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► did does he have control of it Jason do [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► you want to talk about the screens let's [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► talk about what appears on the robot [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► face screen there's there's we could say [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► there's gay sex on the screens sometimes [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► it's something like we're just like he [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► got a little busy zout the famous one is [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► there's there's getting it looks sort of [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► like gay porn basically on the screen [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► door and that's the one where the the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► word comiXology didn't submit to apple [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► or something like that there was a minor [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► but there's there's weird stuff before [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► yes he has reclaiming the user screaming [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► at once you get a dollar sign like an is [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► no I find get the incoming call from [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► yeah yeah [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► the caller ID well because it's from [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► there it's the Imperial security yeah [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► right there is he is he is the four by [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► three [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► I guess he is absolutely fine it looks [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► cool it's impolite to ask i guess i [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► guess my basic question is is that [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► something he felt and showed [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► involuntarily is it something you don't [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► mean is it something that he had to show [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► or not because I get the feeling he [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► doesn't control it [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► no I think it's involuntary I guess I [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► wasn't sure cuz like in the last couple [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► pages where he's interrogating the [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► author and at one point like his screen [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► goes all swirly and I wasn't sure if [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► that was supposed to be like him [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► reacting or him trying to intimidate the [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► there's some part I think it's [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► involuntary and I started to wonder if [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► you know so that that flashback is the [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► key see more like he's good shot right [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► and they say like oh he's frizz you know [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► and it's like is that is there something [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► that happened there that has caused him [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► to lose control to a certain extent like [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► these impulses right you know that he's [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► which is you know again kind of like [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► there's an analogy to the to the scene [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► combat in like the shell shocked that [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► kind of thing where it's like our he [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► just he can't quite control his impulses [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► in the way that he used to do you notice [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► in the same he bleeds blue blood [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► yes he is literally literally a blue [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► pillar called The Bistro see it i just i [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► love it like the first couple pages when [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► they're in like the mechanic shop and [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► they refer to a grease monkey and you're [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► like I like a mechanic and it's like no [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► it's literally a monkey right we'll be [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► okay as long as they don't have a [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► blueblood and then there's a blue but [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► that's so can you believe that we just [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► spent the last five minutes talking [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► about what the meaning is of the images [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► that flash on the screen of the robots [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► who have fleshy bodies but TVs for their [TS]