The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable number 153 artists 2013 [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► we're back on the uncomfortable i'm your [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► host Jason snow and tonight we're going [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► to be talking about time travel movies [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► but I have a confession to make [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► what you're listening to is timeline be [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► this podcast we already did the podcast [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► and then we entered a time-travel box [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► traveled back a little more than an hour [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► in time and are now emerging from the [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► box at the beginning of the podcast [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► which i know is very confusing just like [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► some of the movies were going to be [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► talking about tonight among my guests on [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► tonight's show our Lex Friedman who were [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► gonna find out didn't really like primer [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► hi Lex I I really didn't like primer no [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► no that's too bad because we're going to [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► talk about it i'm glad you watched it [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► spoiler alert i watched it twice it's [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► all spoilers we will fire the spoiler [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► horn off at the end of the podcast but [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► yeah we're going to talk about all the [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► movies [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► Tony sindelar is also here hi Tony [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► I you know if somebody ran up to me and [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► shakes me and asked me what year is it [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► i'm just slap them unless they're like [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► filling out a check or something when [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► they get that's that's a good idea if [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► you run into yourself and yourself has [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► gold bars or silver bars all taped to [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► his chest [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► I would ask for a 50-50 split yeah just [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► take the money and run man that's just [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► that's that's how you do this be called [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► being a gentleman I think so [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► david lawrence here hi David [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► hello I'm i'm hoping we didn't get [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► around to talking about Inspector [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► Spacetime Oh Who I think we I think I [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► can guarantee you that there will be no [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► talk about Inspector Spacetime on this [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► episode I just have a feeling it's it's [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► the braider time don't change the [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► timeline David don't alter the time line [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► or we'll have to record this podcast [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► again and nobody wants that [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► don't don't Drive Angry well how we [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► maybe we'll talk about groundhog day [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► know that would be nice if we mentioned [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► that at the end that would be that would [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► be good [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► John siracusa is here hi John if I'm [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► listening to this just a message to [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► myself make sure you get into the box [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► it's imperative that you do that thank [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► you completely thank you [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► and then I know that in this episode [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► you're gonna you're going to talk about [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► all of the things that you absolutely [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► love about twelve Monkeys probably that [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► it's not a time travel movie probably we [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► haven't recorded that part [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► no you know no that's right it's all to [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► come buddy ashley is also here Monty I [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► suspect is going to like primer or [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► primer as much as i do I like time [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► travel movies because they have lots of [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► rules rules are important i love [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► diagrams even if the diagrams aren't [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► exactly right [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► I like favorite part of back to the [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► future when they stopped the movie to [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► show a diagram what happened nothing [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► like a good checkpoint sequence that is [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► it's the best is the best so I don't [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► know where to begin with these three [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► movies that are that the ones that I [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► told you to see I the earliest is 12 [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► monkeys which I just watched again last [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► night and I want to talk about twelve [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► Monkeys looper and and primer intern [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► primer primer there's a whole convoluted [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► you can call it either 1 it's shane [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► carruth director says that it was [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► supposed to be called primer and he got [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► because that's what the word means is a [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► you know an instruction manual basically [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► to teach you how to do something but [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► everybody called primer instead of [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► primer so he gave up so that really [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► caught there it just like primer fine [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► but that's not the word and i do want to [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► talk about time travel in general are [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► these movies these movies have different [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► takes on time mechanics and every time [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► travel movie is different back to the [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► future is you know fade away when you [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► change the timeline kind of thing [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► the reason i wanted us to talk about 12 [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► monkeys is having seen so many time [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► travel movies i really love the fact [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► that 12 monkeys has a really kind of [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► hard definition of time travel which is [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► that there's only one timeline things [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► only are ever what they are [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► everything is inevitable it's kind of [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► really depressing in twelve Monkeys [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► because everything out some point bruce [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► willis just says you're all dead to me [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► already [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► you're all gonna die doesn't matter but [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► i like that 12 monkeys doesn't go in for [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► any of this sort of like wait a second [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► that's a paradox like the doctor who [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► kind of thing where you're like you [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► don't even know anymore it's like it [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► the time paradoxes beat you down until [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► you can't complain [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► anymore and 12 monkeys like no one said [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► the things happens it always happens the [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► first scene of the movie is the last [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► seen the movie and that's what that's [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► what I appreciate about 12 monkeys is I [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► really like its perspective on time [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► travel [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► you thought it was the hardest of I [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► would I thought that primer or primary [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► was it has the hardest take on time [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► travel and the 12 monkeys was artistic [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► license and it was it was it was not [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► answerable artistic license because they [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► wanted to be like they didn't want to go [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► for the happy ending but like it's like [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► they punted they weren't going to do [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► anything like it's a time travel movie [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► yes but I think I like its purity I like [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► the purity that the of saying there is [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► only one timeline and you don't even [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► need to wrap your head around everything [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► that is going to happen happened if you [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► send somebody back in time they're gonna [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► do what they did [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► there's only one stream and everything [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► is in that stream and there's no [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► changing anything and I thought that was [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► interesting because yeah because because [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► primer is not like that at all [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► correct but if you're going to have a [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► movie where ever there's only one [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► timeline i want more complicated things [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► to have happened in 12 monkeys only [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► really listened in on itself once and I [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► want to get really complicated dance and [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► I i don't think they needed to do lots [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► of looping stuff because i had the time [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► travel part 12mon cases is like less [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► important i think then because it's [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► unlike unlike the other movies there is [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► no authoritative voice in the movie [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► explain do you have time travel works [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► you have these crazy scientists who [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► you're not sure about the competence of [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► the scientists and quotes you have a [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► crazy you have a crazy person who had [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► various points what they do what they do [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► more in 12 monkeys at a time families [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► they do the unreliable narrator things [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► like wait a second maybe there is no [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► timetable this guy is really nuts and [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► they don't go heavily into that but that [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► it's more of that kind of movie than it [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► is a time-travel Murray and this goes is [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► nobody it being crazy when he jumps and [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► then he sort of gradually becomes less [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► crazy which I liked it's like a symptom [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► of being described as he is nuts but he [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► is the main voice like because he says [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► you're already dead to me because he [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► says you can't change that he is our [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► he's the only person we have telling us [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► have the rules of time travel movie for [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► the most part and are we supposed to [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► believe him [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► nothing i can do is change you're all [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► going to die anyway pop what does he [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► know about time travel he's it has he [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► been told this by authoritative people [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► are not even sure it but it's mostly [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► because they didn't want a hat like [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► that's not what the story is about the [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► story is about this guy and it's about [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► like the audience's hope that the world [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► will be saved and the directors desire [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► not to have that happen which I find [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► pleasing and and makes it a fun movie [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► for me up but it's almost like time [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► travel is not an important part of this [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► movie is just a and it's kind of like [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► they could have had a regular movie shot [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► out of sequence like the pulp fiction [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► type thing and had the same type of [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► effect you didn't need that i'm driving [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► seat for me i have this thing where I [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► you know I'm not a huge fan of all [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► genres of sci-fi but time-traveling that [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► will always suck me in any medium and I [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► feel like 12 monkeys sucks most of the [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► fun out of time travel it takes a very [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► sort of basic take on it with no fancy [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► fullness which I am craving and I don't [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► know I I saw that movie knowing nothing [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► about it if you can imagine me not [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► knowing anything about a movie talking [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► and I I was not surprised by I like to [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► be surprised by time travel to like I [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► want to be surprised by was possible but [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► it's sort of i don't call it exactly [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► predictable but it feels to Pat I think [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► there's too fine a point on it i can see [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► that i mean it is directly predictable [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► in that you can see that first scene and [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► kind of expect what's gonna happen [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► although they try to misdirect you but [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► like what i liked about it is that it [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► was a straight line and I I've seen so [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► many twisty time travel movies that I [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► don't know there's something about [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► seeing something that's a little bit a [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► little bit more straightforward i also [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► like the fact that he goes back and [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► forth and that you know it's not that [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► he's unstuck he's he's just kind of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► alternating back and forth [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► I don't know it also it's one of the [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► more coherent terry gilliam movies ever [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► it was fun it's one of the most [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► conventional movies and yeah i think the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► things that are good about it are the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► Gilliam things like it has charm and [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► character and whacking is I think it has [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► one of the best crazy Brad Pitt [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► performances but she came to do many [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► performances they were like that but i [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► think this is one of the best ones [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► Bruce Willis's yeah I like I would [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► really like brad pitt's crazy person [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► performances it's sort of like is the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► baseline for crazy bread [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► and other boys reason similar things [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► that have no idea where I thought this [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► one was charming was like that's what [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► the movie is supposed to be like they're [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► it's not time bandits right but it's a [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► little bit wacky a little bit dark a [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► little bit weird and that's what's [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► interesting about this movie i think the [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► weakest part of the movie are we [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► watching it is the parts are trying to [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► be like a regular Hollywood movie like [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► the female love interest yeah her [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► character arc is not believable and [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► silly and you know that she's from [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► another movie and you don't care about [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► that you just want to see wacky [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► scientists guys and bruce willis not [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► knowing what's going on and failing to [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► save the world like that's what i want [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► to see i love the scientists to the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► that's a Gilliam moment that you almost [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► right out of Brazil that I love is the [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► rig that they put him in a high chair [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► and there's the weird rigged with this [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► monitors on it in the various British [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► actors her [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► there's a shot of them all looming over [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► him that's just like a shot in Brazil [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► where they think I mean yeah never been [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► a big painting hanging over to give him [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► something pleasing to look at because I [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► we have an unbelievable underground and [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► then these terrible cages and he's some [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► kind of criminal and how to time travel [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► happens without special effects and [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► without any sort of pomp and [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► circumstance for the most part is [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► refreshing i really like and I don't [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► think I notice the first time i watch [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► this movie I really like how when he [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► first tries to escape he ends up at a at [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► like a cat scan and it's the big tube [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► that they're sticking a guy into and he [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► really recoiled at that and then later [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► we see [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► oh that's pretty much how they do the [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► time travel is they put a wrap them in [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► plastic and and shove them into it you [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► know what plastic is essential part of [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► their technique clearly the clear [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► plastic a plastic environment suits all [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► like the electrodes that they want to [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► have their cake and eat it too that you [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► want to be a silly movie and be whacking [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► everything but they do want to have time [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► travel but they don't want to explain it [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► in anyway and so like they kind of [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► trying to walk a line between don't take [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► this seriously but do take it seriously [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► because like you know that it's the type [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► of movie like look at they are human [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► races and beaten down to the apartment [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► living underground and this is the time [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► they discovered time travel that's not [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► how you know it makes no sense right but [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► you but not a type of movie you must [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► think about that desperate times John [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► call for desperate time travel measures [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► but would it still be plausible because [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► I've been part of the in seeing the [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► movie is like is bristles character [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► crazy or not right and if they had a [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► whole thing where like they explain this [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► is how time travel works and he [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► understands that he knows how he's gonna [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► be traveled [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► you know transported back right like [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► they never get into that he's just back [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► whenever you know had some arbitrary [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► amount of time I mean if they explained [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► that wouldn't that kind of I feel like [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► that kind of week in the question that [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the first half of the movie ass in terms [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► of like is he crazy or not right if you [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► like by keeping it vague [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► it makes it to a certain extent unclear [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► it's unreliable narrator more than time [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► travel paradoxes and stuff yeah I mean I [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► i really like 12 monkeys but it's really [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► unclear what type of movie it is right [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► is a science fiction movie is a terrible [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► movie within science fiction genre is a [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► dark comedy is it this weird love story [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► that attacked in there also it's like [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► it's all these things which I think are [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► interesting but it's kind of jumbled and [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► unclear i love this movie [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► I really do but i think you're right i [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► think and i think i think john hit on it [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► too which is in some ways the time [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► travel time travel and 12 monkeys is the [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► way they do the out-of-sequence [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► storytelling that ever since pulp [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► fiction pretty much every other movie [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► does and accepted 12 monkeys [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► it's telling a linear story from bruce [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► willis's perspective but it's not linear [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► in terms of time which i think is kind [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► of interesting without it being the [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► point of the movie because the point of [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► the movie isn't that the point of the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► movie is this inevitability that he's [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► you know there are lots of non tried [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► time travel movies where the protagonist [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► is inevitably going to reach his [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► destination and you maybe there's been a [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► for uh you know flash forward every or [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► it's told in flashback and here you know [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► instead time travel is the device that [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► we use to basically say that humanity is [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► hurtling toward disaster and then what [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► what caused it and then you have to [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► wonder so that you know it's a different [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► use of time travel works or not the [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► it's almost just like a narrative device [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► to tell the story but i do like this [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► movie and I love some of terry gilliam's [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► movies and why I you know what I [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► mentioned it earlier i really mean of [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► one of the things i like about this [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► movie is that it is Gilliam button down [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► just enough that i didn't write it [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► somewhere we have some of his excesses [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► are not on display but it's still [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► interesting i like the Surrey ality of [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► the beginning part and I because i think [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► it's sort of illustrates the [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► unreliable narrator because maybe they [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► are perfectly normal scientists and [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► maybe this is a perfectly normal [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► facility but maybe we're perceiving it [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► through bruce willis's eyes and going ok [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► this is really weird and he's freaking [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► out and then all of a sudden he's in the [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► past [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► David David people's by the way who who [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► r Blade Runner and Unforgiven is the [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► co-writer of this movie so it's an [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► interesting screenwriter to has anybody [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► seen the french film that it's based on [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► my youtube i believe i have shit a [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► logitech no well no nobody has seen that [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► movie I yeah I have a I have a link to [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► it in fact the users attention to have [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► seen it and they've left terrible [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► comments about that that's not yes it's [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► interesting it's well it's all it's all [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► done in photographs he couldn't that the [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► guy who made it couldn't get a film [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► camera so it's all it's like a Ken Burns [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► action film was it's like sliding across [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► photographs and zooming in and zooming [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► yeah does not sound appealing know it's [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► like French new way of with more action [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► than some of those movies [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► yeah I I so so i like i like this movie [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► a lot that's why that's why I tossed it [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► in here and i'm intrigued by the way [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► that it uses time travel but it's not a [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► movie about time travel [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► so you know I like that a lot more when [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► i saw when it was released because I [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► guess I was a lot younger and now i'm [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► still charmed by it but now I see that [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► did that's problem i I'm right there [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► with you this was a five-star kind of [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► movie when it came out for me and now [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► when I look at it I i I'm that's exactly [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► what I'm charmed by it but some of the [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► stuff in and madeleine stowe you know [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► she's she's nice and all but her [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► character is a kind of a disaster [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► because it she never does she outside [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► the first five minutes she's on screen I [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► think she never does anything that makes [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► any sense that any human being would [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► ever behave the way that she does and [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► she doesn't act like a nap someone in a [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► terry gilliam move if she did that [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► they're like all right it doesn't act [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► like a normal person but she's wacky and [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► crazy she's just like just like from [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► another movie has no inkling that he [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► might actually be from the future for a [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► very long [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► time and then all of a sudden she [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► believes it's like her arc is not [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► yeah that's that's ok when she gets [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► there that she might start believing it [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► but she's like sticking around with this [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► guy and I never believed that she's [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► doing it because she you know she's just [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► a bleeding-heart who wants to make sure [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► he's taken care of [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► I just I never get that from her there's [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► a little hook up like she remembers him [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► from somewhere but like it its it's not [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► enough right it's just she would have [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► remembered it because the child actor [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► they got the papers will look nothing [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► like him and that happens later and that [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► child was Joseph Gordon know I feel bad [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► that I don't like about monkeys more [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► because i love time travel movies i love [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► Terry Gilliam I like Bruce Willis I like [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► Brad Pitt can't stand this movie [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► Wow and 'iblame brad pitt's he just [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► really gets on my nerves he's acting I [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► don't think he's acting like a crazy [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► person he's acting like somebody acting [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► crazy just wonder why he's acting like [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► crazy Brad Pitt which is different [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► yeah crazy bread print is the thing he [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► thinks that crazy is you talk really [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► fast and you repeat some of your [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► dialogue but I I'm not charmed by I'm [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► not charmed by his performance is I [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► think he's hit his gestures and his [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► physical comedy in this with this black [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► stuff he's not believable it's not like [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► in a serious movie would be a crazy guy [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► he's a crazy guy is crazy for comments a [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► straight stage East AG performance right [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► how special needs to get him into his [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► own room because nobody's getting any [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► sleep no sleep gonna get better know [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► what is what is wrong hospital [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► plus he gets a key from somewhere how [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► does that happen [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► I don't know where it got it either [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► first you know like present-day [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► philadelphia and baltimore don't [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► actually look that much worse then [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► post-apocalyptic underground yeah [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► seriously I was trying to think like [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► we're gonna shoot this they have to make [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► all sides understand our plants it's [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► it's all there is no sleep they had no [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► sound stages for stuff it's all power [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► plants and they have a building with [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► like pillars on it somewhere and they [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► put like homeless people just all over [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► like would put a building that nice have [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► that many homeless people swarming on it [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► spoiler Philadelphia remind me not to [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► visit any other thoughts about twelve [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► Monkeys before we we move on to another [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► bit of time travel could use more [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► monkeys more much [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► there's a lot of markets people [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► speculate there are 12 [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► monkeys in their arm someone maybe he [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► used too many monkeys there's a lot of [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► there's a monkey that goes down the hole [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► which is like you know let's be a [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► parallel for you know Bruce will is not [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► a continuity error to for the living [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► among I said the sandwiches in tin foil [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► but it's actually a plastic bag [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► yeah like that's an unreliable what you [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► take the word of like a guy hanging [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► outside the mansion while the rumors we [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► trips where you get your news the rumors [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► weren't true they they didn't actually [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► lower a monkey with a temple i am [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► prepared to defend almost on the pics of [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► 12 monkeys to do you know they fired [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► monkeys into the TimeGate in Southland [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► Tales maybe this isn't the same universe [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► one of the things i like about this [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► movie is the is the appearance and and [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► they overplayed a little bit in a scene [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► that again I will just not resemble the [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► president president the presentation of [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► an academic paper that exist in any [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► universe where Madeline stones got her [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► various slides that she's speaking to a [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► rap yeah mostly empty room of sight [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► khayat rest's historians I don't even [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► know what but i like the idea that these [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► guys in the future had been just [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► randomly shooting people through history [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► trying to get information and the end [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► that they're the source of these tales [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► of the Apocalypse from history [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► I always thought that was kind of fun [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► yeah they're very good at the joke it [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► you know science isn't an exact science [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► okay right right on the money cut to you [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► know you're in the trench warfare and [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► friend out the whole idea of getting [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► information from the from the past by [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► like recovering like the only thing that [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► survived which is like some ladies [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► answering machine you know [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► yes a voicemail from some random thing [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► like that's all they have to go on right [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► and what they didn't plan for it right [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► it's no one plans for the apocalypse is [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► the wilder the first guy comes back you [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► think they come up with a better plan [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► than leave a message on the answering [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► machine if it's after we've gotten the [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► phone number they get to time travel but [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► they can't do you know anything else [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► that's sophisticated or interesting it's [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► easy to leave a message for the future [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► is sketching on a rock or something [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► well I think they would they knew what [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► answering machines they had access to [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► and so they should call this one and I'm [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► gonna make sense and then I that that's [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► one of those rare time-travel real time [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► travel moments in this movie is where [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► bruce willis leaves his message and then [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► immediately his buddy John Cena from [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► homicide who I really didn't like on [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► homicide is it says appears and he's [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► like yeah we got your message my god [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► yeah at time travel movie there any [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► hands on the ridiculous like kinda [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► here's a gun that you need for something [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► seeing the airport data that movie so [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► much all I know if two metal detectors [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► and he's handing him a gun while they go [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► down the escalator and everything they [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► could fight your way through security on [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► that whole scene is shot in the [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► philadelphia convention center [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► oh and I've been to conferences there [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► you walk down that big hallway when the [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► stairs on either side you hear the whole [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► accordion music is your water is no [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► accordion music and it's much better lit [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► um but yeah you know they've gotten much [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► better at sending people into time once [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► they send John Sita they sent him to [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► exactly the right square foot- it it's a [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► shotgun approach you know how many times [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► he's been sent and where everything is [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► that you don't know but we don't know [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► that he could have been hanging around [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► he has been eating sandwiches at the [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► airport waiting six months I'd watch [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► that movie but it's the terminal well [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► sandwiches [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► I mean him showing up is need from a [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► time travel but it doesn't quite make [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► sense in terms of like what is Bruce was [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► actually supposed to do [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► yeah didn't enjoy that part in the movie [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► the audience's is still it is like you [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► moved on to the Bruce Willis has to save [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► the world because that [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► yeah okay whatever the disappointment [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► yes but that's what they're playing on a [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► certain point of the movie makes you [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► believe that it will be possible for [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► Bruce will save the world that it takes [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► that away which is what strongly about [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► it see if you're a scientist the first [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► thing you do when you have time travel [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► is find out if you can change the past [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► we should have found that out before [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► sending bruce willis back yeah maybe [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► they could have just screwed up [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that's true maybe just bad luck ellipse [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► they're doing the best they can they're [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► not the best scientists they're the only [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► science that's that's why before you [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► move off this movie that is actually my [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► favorite part of this movies in the very [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► end sequence when you've got [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► what's-his-name with the ponytail going [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► through a divorce [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► yeah and they want and they you know [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► this point you're still waiting for [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► Bruce Willis to save the world and got [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► the woman and they're going to go off [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► together whatever and I think the 12 [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► monkeys were just letting the animals [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► are no big deal and they guy insist on [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► seeing the stuff they're doing that [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► tension thing you think it's to be like [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► oh don't worry they're gonna break or [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► something the guy asked them to open so [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► sure pop and like that's the end of it [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► with you [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► that's the end of the movie opens the [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► thing up before the actual end of the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► movie was yesterday everything right [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► that is the great gut-punch of like [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► world so how does not gonna be that kind [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► of movie and it's not actually the end [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► of the movies we still have the steaks [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► like crystal is what happens to him or [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► whatever that I love that I love that [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► that's definitely terry gilliam thing [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► it's like we're not going to say that is [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► a big dramatic reveal we're not going to [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► have a scene where we build tension but [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► he just puts the miles away he's gonna [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► pop that sucker open let the guys smell [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► it game over and then everything else [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► like he's just off to travel the rest of [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the world look at that point you know [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► things are not going well so that I [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► really like that and then the scientists [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► on the airplane has that great line [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► I'm in insurance yeah I like that that's [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► that moment of that's your little moment [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► of Hope right is that now they figured [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► it out the end or maybe or not I guess [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► some people speculate that scientists is [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► there to maintain the position of [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► authority that the scientists have in [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► there you know dystopian future where [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► they get to you know hang out and you [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► know behind tables and yelling inmates i [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► prefer to believe that that's the shows [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► that Bruce Willis you know even though [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► he died he succeeded in and saving your [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► getting the information they needed to [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► figure out what caused the virus but you [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► could be its come on give me a little [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► shred of hope in this bleak do you [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► prefer like Bruce Willis as as Christ [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► figure interpretation of 12 12 12 [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► monkeys sure 12 monkeys will be back in [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► 11 mungkin 613 monkeys do not know how [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► this normal what's going back we kill me [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► kill a monkey every time until they're [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► no more monkeys the hope at the end of [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► this movie is that the animals rule the [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► world and are happy and find all those [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► people are gone and I get around these [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► cool buildings that's that I think that [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► line is not gonna like a winter in [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► Philadelphia gonna it was there in the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► winter in the zoo anyway yeah yeah the [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► other 12 monkeys is essentially planet [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► of the apes and John's wide planted here [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► and slide around on that would be much [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► much bigger makeup challenge planning on [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► the drafts and yeah you there Lex i have [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► here yes well I you know I like what I [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► what I do so I i want to thank our [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► sponsor and when I do that I like to [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► have people with me on this journey [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► because i think it's a much more [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► interesting thing where when we're [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► talking about the sponsor together and [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► and I i know that you are well versed in [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► in in hover I him [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► it's true however is an excellent [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► company where they've got you can get [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► your own domain there's a maiden name [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► registrar that's right that you get your [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► own domain and can be not just calm [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► although I and you think all the [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► dot-coms are gone i want i went on [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► however the other day and and [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► register.com in about two minutes [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► I got it paid for it and it was it was a [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► visible in my web browser in like less [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► than five minutes and and here's the [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► thing you might have noticed is that [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► unlike many competitive competing [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► registrars you did not get interrupted [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► with a million upsells along the way [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► like pay extra for privacy guard and pay [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► extra for faster registration and [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► whatever they don't they don't do the [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► upsells that ever which is nice i was [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► impressed that it's our it's a very [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► simple easy-to-use mean I've registered [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► a lot of domains and a lot of different [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► registers over the years and going to [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► hover it was like I said it was super [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► easy and fast in and and I appreciate [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► that plus they've got I mean I mentioned [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► dot-com but they've got all the domain [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► endings the dot codes that TV is just [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► about anything you can think about so [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► you so if you've got something like I [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► registered a domain for for the book [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► that I'm writing because I'm gonna wanna [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► I'm gonna want to promote it when when I [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► publish it and it took no time at all [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► and you can do all that dns matcha [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► nations to set it up to point to a [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► specific server or it's also got like [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► easy redirect support when you check a [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► box and put in a URL you want to [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► redirect your domain to and boom it's [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► done and that's what I did and it was it [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► was done in minutes and then they also [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► offer they offer email services so that [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you can for for a really low price [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► add-on you can add in email addresses or [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► even a blanket email addresses for [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► domain so if you want to receive email [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► you can do it and have all forward to [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► your gmail account or any other account [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► that you've got which I think it's [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► pretty cool so basically it's trying to [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► if you want to have that place on the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► web that you can point to it with hover [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► it it demystifies all that you don't [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► have to go through the rigmarole it used [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► to be back in the old days when when I [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► registered my first domain it was like [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► cracking cracking a code and like a you [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► need a time-travel scientists from 12 [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► monkeys to figure it out [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► and you know the the truly magical thing [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► with her besides the fact that you know [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it's got that non it's got a nice design [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► it's the rare domain registrar that [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► isn't totally cluttered as you look at [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► it but when you call them and they're [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► open from eight am-2 a p.m. eastern time [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► when you call them at their toll free [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► number you never hear music a human [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► being answers the phone actual human you [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► don't have to leave a message that the [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► people in the future after the [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► apocalypse will get it and i use their [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► there they want their valet transfer [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► service so you call them up and you say [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► here's the main want to transfer from [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► this other crappy registrar and transfer [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► to you and I was like okay we'll take [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► care of it and they do it all they do [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► all the work for you don't do anything [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► that's pretty cool and I the other thing [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► i want to mention about however was they [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► are part of two cows which has been on [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► the in the Mac community for ages now [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► they've been around since 94 [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► if you remember two cows the website and [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► shareware reviews and things like that [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► maybe they are they become one of the [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► largest domain registers in the world [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► but they're they're humble beginnings [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► were actually the very Mac friendly kind [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► of beginning and there and there they're [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► still very nice people but they're there [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► are people and now they've become this [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► wild success in this other area so let's [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► now is the time where I should probably [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► give everybody the secret code which is [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► also my favorite URL on the entire [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► internet this week what is that URL if [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► I'm glad you asked it is hovered calm / [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► incomparable what do i get if i go there [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► do you know i do you get ten percent off [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► of whatever you by using that code ten [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► percent off [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► wow you just put it put it in you can [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► also if you go just hover com you can [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► put in the code and comfortable but the [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► easiest way it will automatically be [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► applied to your order hover com / [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► incomparable so if you've got a domain [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► you don't want you don't fool around [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► with stuff you've already got a webhost [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► somewhere else maybe you can register [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► with her get that domain that you want [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► and even just set it to forward and [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► start there and and you don't have to [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► configure any crazy dns anything and you [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► can get your website up and running and [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► then you can add some email to to it and [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► you no longer have to be just some guy @ [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► gmail.com you can have your whole any [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► domain you want as long as somebody else [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► doesn't have it but [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► they're out there i got a dot-com I got [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► a dot-com I thought they were all gone i [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► thought literally every alphabetical [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► combination in.com was taken and it's [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► not so so thanks to hover and thank you [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► Lex for coming along on my little helper [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► journey with me but thanks to her for [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► sponsoring the incomparable it's really [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► great and thanks to them for letting me [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► register a domain in under five minutes [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► without any hassle that was pretty cool [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► yeah so let's talk about a another Bruce [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► Willis movie from of more recent vintage [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► which is looper is rian johnson's movie [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► from from last year from 2012 [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► I don't know what youre you're listening [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► to this podcast you could be the future [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► or the past by a time-travel we just [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► don't know but it was made in 2012 and [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► it's bruce willis and Joseph [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► gordon-levitt and I saw this movie on [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► home video I didn't see it when it was [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► out there so there was a lot of buzz [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► about it and people really liked it and [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► and you know this this is the movie [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► about the the time-traveling hitmen [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► let's just say the laws of time and [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► space are not adhere to as firmly and [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► looper as in other movies we're talking [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► about tonight would that be a fair [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► assessment [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► well it has a set of rules and it's very [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► clear about them but they're dumb rule [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► yeah as soon as they announced the rules [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► you're like this movie a lot but they're [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► dumb rules [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► yeah just like I complain about the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► scientists and 12 monkeys I feel like [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► the Mafia looper could be taking much [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► better advantage of the rules of the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► world they find themselves it well they [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► are criminals [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► yeah organized crime it's not that [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► organized like 12 monkeys like this is [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► what kind of branded down to the title [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► as a time travel movie but the that I [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► think the reason people got excited [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► about this movie is that it's a time [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► probably and another kind of movie that [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► you don't expect it to be right [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► so they have that you know that the [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► telekinesis thing like it around mid way [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► through the movie it shifts of like you [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► thought this movie is about time travel [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► actually this superpower is a kid that [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► super powers on a farm and that is like [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► that is really the the pros and honesty [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► time travel time travel tractor [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► time-travels para practica like just [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► like a backdrop for the story of this [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► kit [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► yeah and how much you're willing to buy [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► into that and how much you enjoy that [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► you just want to appear time travel [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► would you just want to rip our movie do [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► you want to mixed it's it's an [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► interesting mixture it's done and I [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► think that to the two generals are mixed [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► together not a clumsy way but more in [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► like he didn't care that these two [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► things like these to taste might not [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► taste great together they're gonna be [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► together and it's gonna you know it's [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► going to work out the purposes of the [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► story i like the idea of you meeting [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► your older self and the the rules that [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► have to be set up to the idea that we [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► kill i'm not quite sure I understand all [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► the mechanics of why they're killing who [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► they're killing when they're killing [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► them in the act of dumping people back [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► in time to kill them and all of that it [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► seems that seems like not a great use of [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► time travel but but when I just like [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► it's a Rube Goldberg machine yeah I do i [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► do like though the that it sets up this [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► yet you know young Joe and old Joe [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► meeting and interesting scenes with [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► Joseph gordon-levitt and bruce willis [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► and also i enjoy that [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► fast-forward of sort of like here's what [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► would have happened if you had killed [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► him then this is the life that you would [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► have led which is what leads him back [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► although again I i have that moment of [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► like we'll wait but if he came back and [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► now he didn't kill him why is he still [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► here and are these parallel universes [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► but no they're not because if you kill [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► yourself them things disappear and [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► there's no paradoxes paradoxes are [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► prohibited in this universe [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► sure well but what about things like [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► somebody watching his fingers disappear [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► yeah like that's a great comparison with [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► us back to you better not but back to [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► the future like that's a great [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► comparison because they both did very [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► similar things were like things that are [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► going on now somehow affect the past [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► which affect you in your current [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► situation which really makes no sense [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► but for some reason like in a silly you [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► know kind of adventure comedy romp movie [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► like back to the future find the guy's [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► hand phase-out was playing guitar [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► everyone's fine with it right in this [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► movie that was trying to be so like here [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► are rules or whatever that is perhaps [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the dumbest rule that somehow because [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► we've got your other self and we cut off [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► his fingers now you find yourself back [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► in the exact same position you have been [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► before we didn't like everything else [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► happen exactly the same the only [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► difference is now you don't have your [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► fingers you would never be in the same [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► position and same generation if you [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► don't have your finger and you wouldn't [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► remember you would you be like oh I [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► always didn't have [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► finger instead of being like holy cow i [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► lost a finger will know you always [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► didn't have a finger and it's the same [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► and it's the same rules and more lessons [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► back to the future but totally just does [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► not work in this movie that rule doesn't [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► work here [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► I didn't like the finger stuff but I [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► totally was on board with you okay I'm [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► gonna scar myself now so that my older [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► self can suddenly get the message i like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► that and that also seems like i got [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► really bad like it makes them leaving [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► messages on answering machine look like [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► look civilized it's it's a cool idea [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► it's you know it's so much easier in [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► building 10 like we're just going to [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► remember to do this later right right [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► yeah yeah it was a cool idea but it [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► didn't make a whole lot of sense i mean [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► I the way it's executed in the movie is [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► fascinating right it's like oh my God [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► look what's happening [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► I just feel like it would be easier to [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► take the guy you want to kill and send [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► it back in time into a volcano him into [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► the ocean [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► yea yea or just you know tell them right [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► there where you got them will be [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► actually have that one line that says [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► why they can't do that doesn't make [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► sense when you die [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► ok now for the ocean whatever thats [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that's kind of why I find it refreshing [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► that by the end of the movie like people [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► are being torn apart by telekinesis and [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► like all right now we're getting [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► yeah i did like the one seen the diner [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► where bruce willis just said it's [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► complicated [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► uh-huh we don't want to make diagrams [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► and stuff it will get you know like it's [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► fun in Back to the Future to where he [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► makes a diagram but the idea that they [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► made us think they were going to explain [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► the rules mother said ma'am yeah well I [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► didn't he didn't want to explain like [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► paradoxes and timelines they had [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► established the rules but it's like but [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► wait a second like the person the movie [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► is about to consider the dumb rules and [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► merciless don't think about the dumb [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► rules just like Bruce Willis in this too [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► I I think he's he's got this you know [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► he's he's tired and he's kind of old lug [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► and he's got regret and you know there [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► are a lot of things i like I liked about [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► him in this movie it is weird when it [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► turns into Chronicle toward the end [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► where it's all you nor the x-men it's [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► all this telekinesis and a showdown at a [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► farm and and it didn't go where I [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► expected it and I like the novelty of [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► that but uh I don't know that is for a [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► movie maybe the bar was set too high for [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► me going in and so my expectations were [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► just raised but I I I came out of this [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► movie thinking it was kind of a mess and [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► I i liked parts of it but i'm not sure i [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► liked it as a whole and that maybe it [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► was just overhyped maybe that's the [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► reason I felt that way [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► yeah I'm not gonna be like oh I liked [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► his older albums but brick when Perseus [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► i enjoy doing so much more than this [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► moving I thought brick was just [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► fantastic and I even like Terriers which [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► apparently also did an episode of [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► looking at IMDB page but I like this a [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► lot more than brick but break just you [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► know about the brother the brothers [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► bloom but no fans of that either [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► I I like that very much like that [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► haven't seen it you should see it [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► alright that's good and you should see [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► break if you haven't because i really [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► like that I think it's worth watching [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► it's very its kind of maybe it's like a [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► one-trick pony but that trick is really [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► everybody but me really likes it that if [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► mommy hates 12 monkeys so take that as [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► you ride with your head up with nothing [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► I like real film noir not see I don't [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► inject well I I didn't object to loopers [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► really lousy the time-travel rules [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► because I i like that at least seem to [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► to stick to them [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► the thing that took me out of the movie [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► but besides that third act where it's [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► now all about superheroes instead now [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► what was this notion that I'm I I don't [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► like when the same person is from two [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► different times fights with himself [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► because I I don't know I feel like if my [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► future self came to me I could be very [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► quickly convinced that we were the same [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► person you can make out the whole time [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► like right i don't understand most of [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► the time and like hash embrace but I [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► feel like there's it doesn't make any [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► sense to fight with a few yourself to me [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► that is a paradox much more than [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► anything else the movie doesn't make [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► sense [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► you gotta get along if my future self [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► game here we just sit in the corner talk [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► about how we're both the only two people [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► who don't like brick and we be [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► high-fiving would you not much to say no [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► it would be you know that's the thing [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► you already know what you're gonna tell [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► me about the future [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► I know what its gonna say now when I [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► still like hearing myself say it [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► wow you just blew my mind you just [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► explain podcasting I thought Joseph [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► gordon-levitt had a good job making [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► bruce willis his face [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs either miss facial [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► expression that will this does a lot [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► those good yeah that's sort of squinting [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► yeah I fought him as the younger bruce [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► willis which and a lot of movies like [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► this you don't buy [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► right and he had to do homework where [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► they did some makeup and then he also [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► had to do acting because that's what it [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► really is is just gordon-levitt is [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► trying to be young Bruce Willis here [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► Bruce Willis's get trying to do anything [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► but here's what shows up [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► yeah it's not like faceoff where you [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► have two characters trying to meet in [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► the middle right nothing like thisoh [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► personal assistants Bruno I've returned [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► and that's it you just have to go with [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► it i also like that they should have new [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► parents watch this movie if you want to [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► know what it's like when kids have [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► tantrums [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► oh god yes blood everywhere yeah don't [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► have time to watch the looper they have [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► their kids having tantrums they can [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► watch the last hop just skip to the end [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► they can watch it in 10 minutes [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► installments over a couple of weeks [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► that's why do parents hate people who [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► don't have kids people who don't have [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► kids are all I saw this movie called [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► looper [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► yeah it was actually kind of liked that [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► movie it like i like that the idea of a [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you know you had kids with super powers [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► and tianjin super what about like [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► toddlers supervisor because that seems [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► like a much bigger problem [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► yeah acre rotate great strips Superman's [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► babysitter go searching for that it's [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► great it's the problems a babysitter has [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► with Superman the toddler one of the [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► things i did like about looper was that [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► you know it so you have the time-travel [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► you have the the sort of mutant [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► superpower kid but you also have film [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► noir and you also have like Shane [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► basically you know your hero defending [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► the the woman and the child and I kinda [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► like that it it did take that Shane [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► template and then resolved it in a way [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► that Shane would never have done [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► although the kid would still go come [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► back trying not to spoil it but you know [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► and we will play the spoiler horn at the [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► end of the episode that it wasn't 12 and [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► 12 monkeys the members forces all i see [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► are dead people i don't remember the [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► movies before after success before is [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► before four or maybe it was after [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► oh it was both it depends what time when [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► you're in [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► alright i did find it interesting too [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► that both 12 monkeys and looper don't [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► just deal with time travel but the idea [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► of the time-travel screws up your brain [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► right right [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► he's crazy and 12 monkeys and he's kind [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► of losing his mind the longer he's in [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the past and looper which is weird but I [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► well you know the idea that time travel [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► is a really bad idea [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► yes no on so many levels yeah and then [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► they organized crime comes in and they [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► put their own bad idea of how to time [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► travel on top of the bad idea [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► I feel like in addition to the just eat [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► the general idea of sending people back [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► in time not being a great idea [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► like why have people in charge of [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► killing themselves that seems like just [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► like that's an administrative decision [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► that they made that I don't agree with [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► it so easy to send you back to someone [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► who won't have a moral problem with [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► killing yeah it seems like you know like [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► there's 30 other guys and that they have [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► a ready supply of those people [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► yeah they use one of them I i would kill [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► them in the future and send the body [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► back to the ocean and done or I feel [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► like if you have time travel [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► you could probably make a whole lot of [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► money without going to all the effort of [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► being the mob [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► yeah yes betting on horse dreams whether [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► they only intended well I guess yeah we [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► don't know today only in time travel in [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► one direction or something weird [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► yeah the whole idea of i was actually [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► let down by the idea of the Rainmaker [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► who is consolidating all the gangs and I [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► thought that was going to be an [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► interesting you know this is why this is [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► accelerating but it was sort of shadowy [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► and then at the end we get this [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► revelation of like oh that the kid is [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► gonna grow up to be the Rainmaker or is [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► he and i kinda wanted the other kids to [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► be the Rainmaker [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► yeah i was just like okay yes i would [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► have been a nice twist it will and it [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► was the law of the economy of characters [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► to happening there where it's like well [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► who could it be there you know it's the [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► people we've known apparently because it [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► has to be somebody we have known and [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► yeah i don't know i don't know like i [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► said i don't think it was a bad movie [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► but it didn't you know people were [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► raving about it and maybe I've seen too [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► many time travel movies to be impressed [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► I I saw it on like opening day and went [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► into it not knowing too much about it [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► and I enjoyed it a lot but you know i'd [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► say it's one of the better science [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► fiction movies i saw that year but that [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► is a yeah lobar yeah I thought it was [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► really fun but i think the next one down [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► the line was like Prometheus or [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► something you know I thought was really [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► fun when I was walking out of it and by [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► the time I got home I thought of a lot [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► of plot holes but didn't really affect [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► my enjoyment during the movie itself [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► there's a lot of interesting stuff in [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► there with her you know they're funny [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► rocket cars and you know these weird you [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► know the guy that setback from from the [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► future to run the organized crime was [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► like kind of a big deal but you get the [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► idea that probably getting sent back in [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► time is you know not exactly a motion [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► motion for me I like my character a lot [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► yeah that was reported a lot of there's [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► a lot of interesting stuff in there but [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► yeah there's some stuff that doesn't [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that doesn't stick [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► um you know I i enjoyed the ending I [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► didn't expect the ending the way it was [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► and I don't know other people you know [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► read that had you know 30 minutes into [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► it but now that was clever this this lot [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► of moving parts in this movie I feel [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► like they had too much stuff in it like [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► all the things we just mentioned [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► time-travel telekinesis rocket cars [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► organized crime especially love love [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► this love interest child in danger [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► motherhood like you could remove a whole [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► bunch of those pieces and and make the [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► end like the individual scenes were good [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► you know the crime boss the guy in [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► trouble the crime boss like those scenes [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► were fine but like is like now we're [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► gonna have one of those scenes and now [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► we're going to seem like this and now [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► we're going to be seen this movie is [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► just but by the end of it and what is [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► the kid [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► have to be a telekinetic monster why [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► can't he just be like really good at [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► running organized crime in the future [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► not that I want to capture that lineup [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► but I would have been like look at you [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► can't you can't also make a sort of film [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► noir and also make a time-travel we also [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► make an organized crime would also make [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► a little you know same time movie like [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► he can't do all those well and so I [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► would have concentrated on the ones that [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► were the most interesting and sacrifice [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► the bunch of others when when I i will [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► they did like a lot of the acting in it [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► you know i like the Bruce will is [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► actually acted a little bit a little bit [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► you can do that sometimes [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► yeah this is rian johnson is directed [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► several episodes of Breaking Bad [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► including i think i'm pretty sure he [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► directed the one called fly which is [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► just the two of them in her room and [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► they never leave the room and that's it [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► and I mean there's some really nice [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► acting in that so there were a lot of [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► scenes in this that reminded me of that [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► but then I wanted to go see that instead [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► gets better [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► ryan Johnson in my opinion is kind of a [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► show-off [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► yes he would like you to know he is [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► clever and he is clever and he is [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► cleaned up we get it you made a movie [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► time-travel gangster telekinesis film [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► noir Shane rocket car movie we got a [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► space for Krugerrands [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► well if you guys want a movie that's [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► just time travel let me interest you in [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► primer and also left an 80-minute 100k [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► primer primer whatever you want to call [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► I thought we were only watching bruce [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► willis time travel movies with bruce [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► willis ladies bracelet replace the box i [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► watch disney's a kid was that an [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► accident that was it was an accident on [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► many lives I watched Pulp Fiction i'm [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► pretty sure they jump I'd be I'd be [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► happy to talk about unbreakable because [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► i love that movie but we probably should [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► stick to the time travel theme and I've [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► been meaning to talk about primer primer [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► however you want to call it premieres [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► correct forever [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► you can call it whatever you like it's [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► it famously 2004 movie directed produced [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► starring written financed all seven [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► thousand dollars of it by a chain [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► Carruth literally made this movie for [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► seven thousand dollars but is overrated [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► shows uh well it's 47 thousand dollars [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► its kind of [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► amazing as good as it looks but it's [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► definitely a seven thousand dollar movie [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► I i really love this movie but i also [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► have no judgments against people who [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► hate it because it is weird and it is [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► hard to follow and it's mumbly and lots [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► of things don't happen for a while and [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► then when things start happening they [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► happen in rapid succession and you go [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► what wait a second what happened but as [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► a time travel movie what I like about it [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► is it feels to me appropriately [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► confusing for time travel i guess that's [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► the thing I liked about it is consistent [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► in its own way and yet completely crazy [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► in a way that I think time travel would [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► be so I like that about it i'm [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► interested what you guys think of a [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► primer that's what i was saying i [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► thought i had the hardest rules of time [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► travel because it was like no time [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► travel messes you up [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► it is confusing if you're an observer or [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► participants anybody it is doesn't act [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► in the way that you expected to and it's [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► totally hardcore of like we are you know [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► they even had seems like here we're [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► going to show you with a pencil paper [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► how this thing works or whatever but [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► like that's just it within the context [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► of the movie once people start time [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► traveling it's like sorry it's time [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► travel it's going to be confusing and [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► yes and the model they have ya is our [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► the the rules are confusing which I like [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► to like the system they have laid out is [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► a confusing system just you know simply [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► how the box works it is not simple even [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► it is most basic level before it starts [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► being experienced before you before you [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► before you even get some the box just [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► explain how the box works like [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► understanding that rule system and then [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► it's like a game where they teach you a [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► mechanic like here's why jumping works [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► and here's our weapon works right and [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► then they slowly ramp you up this one is [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► like they teach you a mechanic [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► you don't understand the mechanics and [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► then they put your last level of the [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► game and before they tell you that [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► there's time travel in the movie you're [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► already on at least the third time [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► through some of the essence [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► yes you think you're watching the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► discovery of it and then realize that [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► it's actually already been well [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► discovered i think that's debatable I've [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► seen the big chart and everything I [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► don't you can you can see a lot of early [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► scenes as the first time TSU works [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► perfectly well because they do show you [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► the same thing [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► the original seems yes but the first [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► scene where a biz up on [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► building looking down at Aaron all you [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► got the head Brian that's at least the [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► third time that scene is played out [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► right but you cannot there's also an [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► interpretation that works within the [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► rules of the movie that the first time [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► you see a lot of the scenes is actually [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► not the first time that they occurred in [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► the timelines because you know in the [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► times when things go well on the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► headphones go off without a hitch [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► it looks the same as the first time [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► that's the whole point [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah I like um and I know again [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► there are reasons why people and i'm [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► waiting because I know Lex didn't like [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► this movie i think the things that I [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► like about it is I I like that it's a [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► bunch of nerds who are trying to figure [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► something out i like that the idea that [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► time travel might be invented in this [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► completely random accidental way in an [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► office park in austin and somewhere in [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► Texas in Austin but it's seems like cost [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► ya will say it's austin uh and and you [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► know they figure it out slowly they [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► think they're doing something else and [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► they're wondering there's a guy i think [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► a nice scene when they when the good [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► they go to the guy who's like this is [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► months of growth on this penny or [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► whatever it is we love we bore a weeble [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► that's right [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► uh I like all of that that that they [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► they don't know what they're doing you [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► know that they just suddenly have this [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► thing and then and then we understand [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► again it's a movie that nerds can love [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► because it explainers it explains like [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► in an interesting way it's not a magic [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► portal that you step through you have to [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► get in a box with an oxygen tank and [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► wait there as you go back [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► second-by-second I kinda like that [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► mechanic that it's it's really hard it's [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► weird it's what you know it's perfectly [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► reasonably what time travel would be [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► when you discovered time travel which is [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► not easy [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► I don't know if it's it's the fact that [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► it's hard as it is realistic but not the [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► amended mechanics I'm willing to give it [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► a pass on that but it's not real time [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► travel John I know you know the secrets [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► of the rear travel but that's how we [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► look so yeah but it seems really wish to [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► me that it would be weird and hard and [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► that that not what we expect from the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► movies and the idea that it's discovered [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► by accident and yeah i mean this movie [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► is very INXS unaccessible the amount we [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► are just the the opening sequence with [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► the the nerds who are wearing ties [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► sitting in a kitchen putting something [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► two envelopes and there [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► talking over each other and there [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► mumbling and there's four characters two [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► of them were not actually going to see [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► that much yeah it's you know there's [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► there's a lot in that first like like 20 [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► minutes that like I could see a lot of [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► people pretty justifiably turning this [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► movie off especially for a 78 with [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► minute yes spent 20 minutes of nothing [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► happening [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► yeah well that's why works as a film [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► festival movie though because film [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► festival ways they love that you go in [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► it's a bunch of people in the kitchen [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► you don't know what it's about and then [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► they hit you in the film festival people [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► love that but you compare that to the [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► final 20 minutes which is right about [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► when they say yes maybe we can purposely [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► affect the past and then think just go [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► completely crazy and every day the [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► director had throating immediately then [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► the movies over [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► i I've seen this movie I think three or [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► four times now the most recent time like [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► two days ago when I was rewatching it [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► was feeling like really good like I'm [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► finally getting it and then like you [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► know I rewatched the last 12 minutes [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► like you have twice and I was like oh so [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► close and yet no I don't you know it's [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► like I've seen the chart and I could [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► like replicate that chart for somebody [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► but i could not construct that chart [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► from my own viewing of the monster movie [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► I've seen it like five or six times and [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► every time it's like that where I get to [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► the point I'm like wait a second [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► hydrocodone looks like i can look at the [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► terminus ya doing when they step matches [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► to what I've seen it's like it's like if [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► I was looking at like a matter you know [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► math problem when I'd be like yeah that [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► solution makes sense but I could never [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► solve this problem but there but there [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► are multiple possible solutions given [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► the rule that string variable yeah there [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► are multiple possible solutions that fit [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► and like and I think the trend is the [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► simplest basically I was gonna say my [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► favorite thing about the movie for Lex [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► craft over but now i'm going to crap all [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► over a little bit a lot of the problem [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► with this movie aside from like pacing [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► and low budget stuff like that [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► is that a lot and a lot of the reason [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► it's hard to understand it it fails to [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► communicate the ideas that i wanted to [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► communicate like if you watch a movie a [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► hundred times you can see I can see in [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► this scene this is what the director was [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► trying to say but it does a bad job of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► community that either because they have [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► an important conversation and they only [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► got one take of it and then decided to [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► buy it by running water like [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► 16-millimeter film is our attention and [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you can't really defend that's what I [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► mean he specifically said this I guess [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► this movie basically couldn't have been [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► longer than 80 minutes because they're [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► just there was no other footage right [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► they did like maximum to take some [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► everything right [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► it's also like it didn't even it didn't [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► even succeed on the basic level just [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► communicating waterbar be communicated [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► the same because of budget and because [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► of you know experience all things and [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► that is probably the worst thing about [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► this movie you can see like there's a [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► confidence problem and that contributes [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► to its difficulty understanding the [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► people who love the movies i'll know [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► it's don't you understand so awesome is [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► so hard to understand sometimes it's [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► hard to understand because the guy did a [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► bad job is right and that's that's my [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► problem is that it's not i don't mind a [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► movie where you have to work extra hard [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► to understand i don't mind movie where [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► you get more out of it by watching it [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► multiple times or even if you basically [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► need to watch at multiple times [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► understand it but i think that that was [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► not necessarily their intent when they [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► made this movie i think it is a side [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► effect of not just pour filmmaking in a [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► sense of its low budget like I think you [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► could show somebody this movie and they [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► would not necessarily recognize that it [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► was made for seven thousand dollars i [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► think that's a testament to whatever [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► grilling skills they had that they [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► pulled off what they did I think it is a [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► script that is flawed and I i get and I [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► respect the notion of i'm going to write [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► this with you know i'm not going to [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► pander to the audience i'm not going to [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► make any of the dialogue accessible in [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► the first half of the film is losing [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► more money i shot and I started and I [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► paid for its for be but you have to do [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► something you have to be involved in [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► math maybe you know I do a lot of [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► multi-screen stuff there's a lot of [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► movies and television that I consumed [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► while i also have a laptop on my lap or [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► an iPad in my hand this is not a movie [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► for you right so there's you know when i [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► watch this movie the first time I made [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► that mistake so when I rewatched it last [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► week for this podcast I said you know [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► there will be no distractions nobody was [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► home the kids were all asleep my wife [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► was as it was just me and the TV and I [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► really got no further i mean i've read [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► the charts [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► I've read the articles i've read [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► analysis I don't want to work this hard [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► and it's not it misses out on the [TS]