Top Four

Top Four 17: Movie Genres


00:00:00   all right so I forced Marco to finally

00:00:02   do a movie topic da da da da but we're

00:00:05   not gonna do our favorite movies yet we

00:00:10   are going to kind of start off pretty

00:00:12   broad and we're going to talk about our

00:00:14   favorite movie genres though so I think

00:00:17   that the rules are for this one it's um

00:00:20   obviously very personal

00:00:22   what movie genres you prefer watching

00:00:24   could be a pretty broad genre like genre

00:00:28   genre you were the one who just in

00:00:30   France you tell right yeah you know say

00:00:33   pop so it could be something pretty

00:00:35   broad like drama comedy or we could get

00:00:38   pretty specific like Judd Apatow movies

00:00:41   mine are somewhat specific yeah minor

00:00:43   mine are in the middle of specific I

00:00:47   didn't go like specific like Judd Apatow

00:00:50   movie is Marilyn Monroe movies movies

00:00:53   containing a strong female lead that's

00:00:55   one that Netflix likes to use oh yeah so

00:00:59   yeah I think we should start for all the

00:01:03   way up to one make sense we'll go

00:01:04   backwards for this one and um you want

00:01:07   to go first since I kind of forced your

00:01:09   hand does this whole movie thing cuz

00:01:10   Marco hardly ever watches movies yeah I

00:01:12   suppose yeah so my disclaimer front is

00:01:14   that I hardly ever watch movies I don't

00:01:16   feel that strongly about movies

00:01:18   generally I enjoy them when I'm watching

00:01:20   them but I don't really ever think hey

00:01:23   let's watch a movie tonight we watched a

00:01:25   movie last night yeah it was actually

00:01:27   good it was good

00:01:28   we watched the big short yes we and it

00:01:30   was very good we both enjoyed it right

00:01:32   yes very much enjoyed it yeah

00:01:34   recommended it and it was unnecessary

00:01:35   right it was yeah that's why I turned it

00:01:38   on because I like what's-his-face

00:01:40   what's-his-face right you know from the

00:01:42   office stop say his name's deeper up I

00:01:47   like him a lot and you know he was very

00:01:50   good

00:01:51   didn't he didn't get nominated for

00:01:52   something I think he got nominated for

00:01:54   an Oscar but didn't win won something

00:01:55   like that anyway very good movie the big

00:01:58   short so my number for the top movie

00:02:00   genre is comedies for smart people and

00:02:05   this is kind of hard to define I'm not

00:02:09   so wait if I type in comedies for smart

00:02:12   people

00:02:13   into google when am I gonna get I did

00:02:16   exactly that earlier oh I want to see

00:02:19   for myself hold on all right smart funny

00:02:21   intelligent comedies that what you

00:02:23   clicked on the first thing okay this is

00:02:27   gonna be interesting

00:02:27   okay well so so what I have in mind for

00:02:30   my comedies for smart people distinction

00:02:32   I gotta make some changes on my list

00:02:34   here okay go ahead

00:02:37   so basically movies you know first of

00:02:39   all these movies that a lot of geeks

00:02:41   find to be like smart comedy so things

00:02:43   like office space dr. Strangelove like

00:02:46   stuff like that and then I would also

00:02:49   put into this category a lot of Kevin

00:02:51   Smith movies especially you know earlier

00:02:53   on his own category honestly he almost

00:02:56   was in my list clerks in mall or ass

00:02:58   like that kind of you know I think

00:02:59   they're kind of like comedy for smart

00:03:01   people all right I would also this was a

00:03:03   tough one to categorize but I think I

00:03:06   would put Lock Stock and Two Smoking

00:03:08   Barrels in this category as well even

00:03:11   though it is kind of an action movie but

00:03:12   I would I would mostly consider it a

00:03:15   smart comedy movie yep some other people

00:03:17   would too on the internet yeah that's

00:03:20   right so that's my comedies for smart

00:03:21   people category and that's only your

00:03:23   number four mm-hmm that's interesting

00:03:25   what is your number four my number 4 is

00:03:29   romantic comedies which it's pretty

00:03:31   basic and easy

00:03:33   I like watching romantic comedies when I

00:03:35   do any kind of repetitive manual tasks

00:03:39   like sewing or sewing movie in the

00:03:46   background person that's me while you

00:03:47   watch them any more than you I if I'm

00:03:49   gonna watch a movie I want to only watch

00:03:51   the movie I can't have like a movie on

00:03:52   in the background to do something else

00:03:53   oh I will put movies on in the

00:03:56   background or TV shows you know

00:03:57   sometimes movie especially romantic

00:03:59   comedies that I've seen over and over

00:04:01   again I'll put those on in the

00:04:02   background while I'm editing photos just

00:04:04   because it's something to listen to that

00:04:06   I don't have to pay attention to but if

00:04:07   I want I need like a visual break

00:04:09   because sometimes staring into one photo

00:04:11   for a long time while fixing things is

00:04:14   just you're you got a lot of ice tray

00:04:17   and so you kind of like need to move

00:04:18   away from that and watching a moving

00:04:20   picture you're watching a movie is

00:04:22   really helpful for that for me so thanks

00:04:25   it's that's how I break up my

00:04:27   editing when I when I feel like my eyes

00:04:30   are just like drying out so yeah

00:04:33   romantic comedies and III like the

00:04:35   romantic comedies based on like usually

00:04:36   who's in them so it's kind of like you

00:04:39   know 90s early 2000s romantic comedies

00:04:42   which is probably people about our age

00:04:45   in their 30s also kind of flock to those

00:04:48   I like anything with like Sandra Bullock

00:04:50   Julia Roberts Hugh Grant Julia Stiles

00:04:52   you know like all that those kind of

00:04:54   typical romantic comedy stuff that's

00:04:58   just super surfacey and not even that

00:05:03   funny but I don't it's my number four

00:05:05   because I watch them a lot mm-hmm so I

00:05:08   wanted to kind of surprised it didn't

00:05:10   rank higher for you well I have some

00:05:12   better stuff that's higher that makes

00:05:14   sense that yeah but ya know the romantic

00:05:16   comedies are it had to be on there even

00:05:18   though it's embarrassing because I watch

00:05:21   them a lot and they're also fun

00:05:22   girlfriend movies so you have like

00:05:24   friends over and you were like you

00:05:25   really just want to hang out and

00:05:27   chitchat but you want a movie on at the

00:05:29   same time the the ROM con come right

00:05:33   that what you say I hate abbreviations

00:05:35   that sounds so dumb yeah yeah anyway the

00:05:38   romantic comedy is so a good go to if

00:05:40   it's not dirty dancing but dirty dancing

00:05:43   is its own category yeah actually my

00:05:48   number one is just dirty dancing no it's

00:05:53   a pretty great movie I mean we're not

00:05:54   doing our movie list right now don't

00:05:56   want to give it away we have to have

00:05:58   we're trying to you know siphon this out

00:06:00   of siphon it trickle sprinkle okay

00:06:08   sprinkle this out as long as possible

00:06:11   yeah trickle you might want to see your

00:06:13   doctor okay

00:06:14   so number three is my number three is

00:06:17   the make me angry liberal documentary I

00:06:25   love you so much yeah and so this would

00:06:27   include you know most Michael Moore

00:06:29   movies

00:06:30   most of what Merck and Spurlock does I

00:06:33   love the way you categorize this because

00:06:35   that's the reason documentaries didn't

00:06:36   make my list is because they made me

00:06:38   angry yes it's to make them make me

00:06:40   angry liberal

00:06:41   you marry this also there's lots of like

00:06:43   low-budget Wednesday's on Netflix that

00:06:45   we sometimes watch and of very varying

00:06:49   degrees of quality mostly terrible but I

00:06:52   really get a lot of joy out of the make

00:06:53   me angry liberal documentary and they do

00:06:55   make me angry and I still like watching

00:06:57   them I always make I always make you

00:06:59   pause while we're watching these

00:07:01   together whenever we watch documentaries

00:07:03   together I always make Marco pause the

00:07:04   documentaries so we can like yell at

00:07:06   each other about it and even though I'm

00:07:08   like where you were saying the same

00:07:10   thing or were we're being opposed to

00:07:12   something that's totally stupid the

00:07:14   documentary is highlighting purposely to

00:07:16   make you feel that way

00:07:17   we still pause it and yell about it and

00:07:20   I'm usually the one that pauses Marco

00:07:22   just listens to me yell it's a fun

00:07:26   watching experience for the family yeah

00:07:27   I just want to dropkick the TV sometimes

00:07:30   like oh my gosh yeah I just want to kick

00:07:35   the TV so hard that's why I can't have

00:07:37   that on my list because it makes me

00:07:39   wanna kick exactly that's fights in the

00:07:41   name alright that's my number three what

00:07:43   is your number three number three is

00:07:44   sticking with the romance and going with

00:07:47   the historical romance which are usually

00:07:49   not that historical because they are

00:07:51   it's that its own genre it's it is its

00:07:54   own specific thing so I had like for

00:07:58   example even though they aren't history

00:08:01   related specifically I guess in terms of

00:08:04   accuracy things like Jane Eyre the

00:08:09   Duchess Sense and Sensibility Pride and

00:08:11   Prejudice do you know those type of

00:08:14   period pieces period romances yeah I

00:08:17   guess that would be better period

00:08:19   romances for periods and people who like

00:08:22   periods that's yeah this is a movie that

00:08:27   when you when you put it on you you you

00:08:30   will not put it on if I'm with you

00:08:31   you'll put it on like either if you're

00:08:33   home alone or if if I'm gonna be like in

00:08:36   the office working all night I will come

00:08:39   out and I will catch you watching one of

00:08:41   these on you you almost always the

00:08:43   second you hear me approaching you just

00:08:45   pause it because a you don't want me to

00:08:48   make fun of it and be you don't want to

00:08:50   miss any of the dialogue as I go make

00:08:52   some noise so you always walk in as

00:08:54   like the characters have been not

00:08:56   together the entire movie and then a

00:08:58   second that they get together that's

00:09:00   when you walk in you're like what who's

00:09:02   stupid huh and it's the first time

00:09:06   they're kissing just stop yeah I'm very

00:09:09   good at ruining those for you I'm sorry

00:09:10   ruin them so much but anyway they are a

00:09:13   guilty pleasure I watch them when I'm in

00:09:16   the mood for just romantic and I don't

00:09:21   know just feel good but not not laughing

00:09:24   at anything you know even though I don't

00:09:27   even laugh with the romantic comedies

00:09:28   because they're not that funny they're

00:09:30   just gonna dumb yeah regular romantic

00:09:33   comedies are like a brain break and

00:09:34   these are like you know a little bit of

00:09:37   crack for the romantic soul kind of

00:09:40   thing so that's my number three all

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00:12:57   two getting up there now we're getting

00:12:59   to the good stuff mm-hmm my number two

00:13:02   which I'm pretty sure is gonna be on

00:13:04   your list somewhere as well is the big

00:13:06   heist movie that's my number two all

00:13:08   right

00:13:10   ding okay so I would include obviously I

00:13:13   would say one of the quintessential big

00:13:16   heist movies is Ocean's eleven or heist

00:13:19   I'm just kidding may be nice

00:13:21   hi-yah Ocean's eleven and you know the

00:13:24   modern remake not the one like from the

00:13:25   60s or whatever and for the record

00:13:27   oceans twelve and thirteen well don't

00:13:28   exist those yeah don't name bother those

00:13:31   exist even less than the network sequels

00:13:32   okay so let's talk about this together

00:13:34   since we both obviously love heist

00:13:36   movies I love heist movies because they

00:13:38   are so easy to watch but they're

00:13:40   incredibly entertaining and you get to

00:13:42   think and sometimes they surprise you

00:13:43   and I love any movie that people have to

00:13:46   synchronize their watches to accomplish

00:13:48   something that's my favorite I love that

00:13:51   if it if people synchronize watches it's

00:13:53   a good movie I also like montages which

00:13:56   heist movies are usually full of

00:13:57   betterment montages in some sense

00:13:59   preparation montage yes recon montage

00:14:02   any type of time where they're learning

00:14:04   how to do something and they're getting

00:14:05   better at it

00:14:06   amazing yeah yeah betterment montages

00:14:09   anyway so I want to list a couple of the

00:14:10   my favorite yeah heist movies that I

00:14:14   would put in this category how to steal

00:14:17   a million Taking of Pelham one two three

00:14:19   that's a good one snack snack snatch

00:14:23   yeah and actually I put snatch on my

00:14:26   list as well if for the big heist movie

00:14:27   and I was torn because I put Lock Stock

00:14:29   and Two Smoking Barrels the other guy

00:14:31   Ritchie awesome movie of that type into

00:14:33   the comedies for smart people like

00:14:34   anteater akin Teeter yeah is that one

00:14:37   I've seen on both lists when I was

00:14:39   trying to do my research for oh yeah

00:14:40   okay what is what yeah I would say I

00:14:42   would say snatch is more of a heist

00:14:44   movie but as much they're also both very

00:14:46   funny and they're both comedies for

00:14:48   smart people for sure so it was hard it

00:14:50   was tough just put those up but yeah I'm

00:14:52   with you snatches a heist movie in

00:14:53   general the Thomas Crown Affair which is

00:14:55   very good heist the bank job the Italian

00:14:59   Job yep bank job Italian Job usual

00:15:01   suspects and the Newton boys which you

00:15:05   have not seen I watched that over at our

00:15:09   friend's house and it's very good you

00:15:11   would like it a lot and apparently it's

00:15:12   based on true story cool but yeah that's

00:15:15   just a little sprinkling of some

00:15:17   different heist movies throughout the

00:15:19   ages because I mean something like how

00:15:21   to steal a million and taking a Pelham

00:15:23   one two three are pretty older they're

00:15:26   older movies so and the taking a pelham

00:15:29   that I'm talking about is the original

00:15:30   one with um with George's dad in it

00:15:33   yes mr. Costanza yeah yeah I even saw

00:15:38   the modern one the old ones very good

00:15:40   though yeah I only recommend and this is

00:15:42   one of those armors to where you could

00:15:44   like there are a lot of good old heist

00:15:46   movies like a lot a lot of genres if you

00:15:49   if you dig back into the back catalogue

00:15:51   of like movies from like the you know

00:15:53   30s through 80s or whatever a lot of

00:15:54   them are they don't hold up as well

00:15:56   mm-hmm but heist movies like there were

00:15:58   a lot of good heist movies from the past

00:15:59   yes there are a lot of historical heist

00:16:02   movies I mean but and it's also it's fun

00:16:04   because they it does ban a lot of

00:16:07   different things they're not all just

00:16:09   action movies I feel like some of them

00:16:12   are they could be a little bit more

00:16:14   funny and others are more serious with

00:16:17   stuff blowing up oh what some barefoot

00:16:20   blood parade what's accurate yeah yeah

00:16:24   that's a heist movie technically I mean

00:16:26   nothing really gets heisted well it's I

00:16:29   mean like a heist movies often have

00:16:31   really good and really big twists to

00:16:33   them and so that's like a lot of them

00:16:36   like they seem like they might be heist

00:16:37   movies but they're not alright so that

00:16:40   was number two for both of us right yeah

00:16:41   I'm pretty excited that we had the same

00:16:43   number four heist movies because we both

00:16:45   really like watching heist movies

00:16:46   together because they're also really

00:16:47   easy to watch yeah so number one but yet

00:16:50   I know I'm sorry good this was almost my

00:16:55   number one I'm surprised it was at the

00:16:57   last minute I changed it it was my

00:16:59   number one until the last minute so I

00:17:01   have a lot to say about heist movies I

00:17:02   think we should even have a top four

00:17:04   episode about just heist movies I could

00:17:08   be convinced of that

00:17:09   okay I have to watch a lot more of them

00:17:11   first I know me too but that could be

00:17:12   part of the fun right is watching even

00:17:14   more heist movies and then ranking them

00:17:16   I feel like one of this one of those

00:17:18   awesome things that like we explain to

00:17:20   our parents like so what do you do for a

00:17:21   living so well this week I had to watch

00:17:23   a bunch of heist movies so I could this

00:17:25   week in my opinion if I had to watch

00:17:26   crank like I did alright number ones

00:17:31   actually my number one includes crank in

00:17:35   its category problem yeah my number one

00:17:43   top four movie genre my number one

00:17:45   is action in a variety of fast vehicles

00:17:48   so this would action in a variety of

00:18:01   fast vehicle so this includes you

00:18:04   separate that for heist movies heist

00:18:07   movies sometimes include some action

00:18:09   from a variety of fast vehicles but it's

00:18:11   usually not until the very end and maybe

00:18:12   it you know but like I'm talking about

00:18:14   where that's where that's more

00:18:15   commonplace occurrence for the whole

00:18:16   movie so that this includes things like

00:18:17   of course James Bond movies are in this

00:18:20   category I would say that's pretty good

00:18:22   yeah right you know things like crank

00:18:25   the transporter series it's almost all

00:18:28   Jason Statham movies this category so

00:18:33   but it's broader than just didn't say

00:18:35   the movie yes which is its own category

00:18:37   that that would rank pretty hot is that

00:18:39   if I separate that out that would rank

00:18:40   pretty high so far my favorite part of

00:18:42   this episode are your movie genres so

00:18:47   number one for me action in a variety of

00:18:49   fast vehicles what is you can you name

00:18:52   any others well you do you want to

00:18:54   expand on your variety of fast vehicles

00:18:56   action movies like what are some of the

00:18:57   other ones you're thinking so besides

00:18:59   Jason Statham movies and James Bond

00:19:01   movie and James Bond movies so is that

00:19:02   all you're really thinking of basically

00:19:04   I mean I got my category there's like I

00:19:06   mean you know there are things like the

00:19:08   diehards really you that's a lot of it

00:19:09   you know it's a lot of action movies

00:19:11   following the diehards the Mission

00:19:13   Impossible is kind of do this you know

00:19:15   like a lot of things that try to be

00:19:16   James Bond basically like a lot of them

00:19:18   are in this category what about you

00:19:21   incredible ziz probably in this category

00:19:23   like what's the one where they have to

00:19:25   drive a lot and not stop speed atomic

00:19:34   train right it's a great Jean run okay

00:19:38   people if you haven't seen an atomic

00:19:40   train just go and after this podcast is

00:19:43   over yeah find it and watch it it is

00:19:46   just epic the only thing with atomic

00:19:49   train and it never stops it's an atomic

00:19:51   train the only thing with atomic

00:19:53   training speed is that really the

00:19:55   category is action in a variety of fast

00:19:58   vehicle

00:19:58   so ideally meet how Sandra Bullock in it

00:20:00   too so that's what she's not a fast

00:20:02   vehicle I there's only one fast vehicle

00:20:04   in that movie so like ideally and it's a

00:20:06   but you have I know it's that fast it's

00:20:12   like 55 right you know it's like you

00:20:16   must go the speed limit stop don't stop

00:20:22   driving don't stop drive anyway that's

00:20:25   my number one Oh

00:20:27   atomic train yeah I just want to talk to

00:20:31   everybody about atomic train okay my

00:20:34   number one is kind of your number four

00:20:37   but what what do you use for smart

00:20:39   people yes

00:20:40   comedy's are smart people but apparently

00:20:42   according to like IMDB and a whole bunch

00:20:44   of other like legit places that is

00:20:48   technically called dark comedies no I

00:20:51   think there's some overlap there I think

00:20:53   a lot of comedies for smart people are

00:20:54   dark comedies but I would not say that

00:20:56   those are 100% the same genre well okay

00:20:59   so here are some of the ones I listed

00:21:00   that are my favorite movies in this

00:21:03   genre and this is why it's my number one

00:21:05   so I married an axe murderer Fear and

00:21:07   Loathing in Las Vegas Little Miss

00:21:08   Sunshine Juneau Zombieland

00:21:11   office space Grosse Pointe blank Fight

00:21:13   Club election Being John Malkovich okay

00:21:16   I could see that those were all pretty

00:21:18   good picks yeah

00:21:19   these are ones that I found to have the

00:21:21   dark comedy genre I was trying to pick

00:21:23   about pick out like some of my movies

00:21:26   that are my favorite movies in

00:21:28   themselves and then find what that genre

00:21:31   would be and they all just kind of end

00:21:33   up being listed as dark comedies okay

00:21:36   because some of them and also what we

00:21:39   watch last night Big Short yeah that was

00:21:42   listed as a dark comedy

00:21:43   hmm so okay so comedies for smart people

00:21:48   slash dark comedies I think that they -

00:21:50   the big short is almost a make me angry

00:21:52   liberal documentary it is almost to make

00:21:54   you let's see it it was a good movie but

00:21:58   yeah whole bunch of those movies that's

00:22:02   what I like the best that's pretty

00:22:04   simple really I wish I had better names

00:22:07   like you did I'm jealous of your names

00:22:10   anyway some of the things that didn't

00:22:11   make the

00:22:12   for me we're like 90s teen movies yeah I

00:22:15   mean I like - I love those in the 90s

00:22:17   yeah what maintains watching them now

00:22:19   I'm like they don't really hold up for

00:22:24   adults to watch them now I kind of feel

00:22:26   like that I'm a little embarrassed

00:22:27   watching them cult classic movies which

00:22:30   are pretty good like movies from the 80s

00:22:31   and other cult classic movies I had

00:22:35   documentaries on mine and Sundance

00:22:36   movies - as I didn't make the cut but

00:22:39   genres I was thinking about mmm Judd

00:22:42   Apatow movies but again some of those

00:22:44   can be shoved into the dark comedy /

00:22:46   many of them really so yeah they're

00:22:49   pretty well covered yeah well anyway

00:22:51   this is a really good I think a great

00:22:54   first overview of the types of movies

00:22:56   that we like and I think it's pretty

00:22:58   nice that we like the same type of

00:22:59   movies besides maybe the end of my list

00:23:01   or the don't watch with Marco movies yes

00:23:03   yeah but in terms of all the movies you

00:23:06   like and my top movies we are one of the

00:23:09   same so I think that's good so I think

00:23:11   it's only right that we conclude this

00:23:13   evening by either watching they make me

00:23:15   angry liberal documentary on Netflix or

00:23:16   a heist movie ooh

00:23:18   heist movie all right time to do it okay

00:23:20   all right thanks everyone for listening

00:23:22   and we'll see you next month or

00:23:23   something uh yeah sometime soon we'll

00:23:25   see you yep cool now we're all primed

00:23:27   and ready for more movie episodes

00:23:29   exactly yes atomic train