00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of the uncomfortable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:16 ◼ ► the incomparable number 151 july 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/16">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► welcome back to be uncomfortable this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► a an episode that I'd like to say i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► forward to for most of the year but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► think the most accurate thing is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► takes me several months to prepare for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► this episode because this is the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/34">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► nominees for the hugo award for best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► novel and there are five nominees every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► year which means some of us read all 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► some of us read are not gluttons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► punishment only read some of the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► books that are nominated for for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► human award for best novel representing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► the best in science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► and related jon renau long-form fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/55">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► for the year so we did it again we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► done this the last couple of years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► we're back so joining me on this journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► to read novels that were nominated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► awards bye-bye fans are my guest dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► morgan hi dan welcome back i Jes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► I've read by my calculations 3.73 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► alright fair enough we'll get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► Glenn Fleischman is also here Glenn good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► to have you back on his delight to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► here and I believe I've read about 4.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► of the novels which is my highest score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► wow there's some serious bragging going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► on Monty actually is also here Monty at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► one point opted out because we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► going to record this a couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► and then we didn't want he said just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► wait i will read them how many did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► read Monty i read three of them and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► liked about one in three quarters haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► alright and Scott McNulty my partner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► crime who who tends to read all 5 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► assume you read all five right Scott I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► have read all 5 much like you but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► read all 5 all the way through every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► bitter bitter age do you know there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► some pretty bad and I want to argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► these represent the best in science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► fiction and fantasy of the year because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/136">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► let's see hey I have a meta argument i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► want to discuss later about that nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► of what is the best but we can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► alright let's go through the books first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► and then maybe we can get meta at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► end i also have a6 book that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► to mention what I mean nominated for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► nebula warden is very good much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► than any of these books actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► Scott agrees with me I i know in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► because he's been raving about it or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/162">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► so what this is but yes just increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► your heat i read a book from last year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► like I don't think that this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► editing method with the incomparable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► that I declare things to be fact if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► there later proven wrong i remove all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► traces of my decoration and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► alright so we should start with the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► books that we've covered previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► showing that we do have a nose for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► nominal works of some of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► two of these books we've done episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► john scalzi is booked redshirts was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► covered in detail in episode 201 of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► incomparable titled insular nervous fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/207">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► interesting kind of meta discussion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/213">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► remarkably like the USS enterprise which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► turns out is actually inside a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► and that's why the plots that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► lives are revolving around make very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► little sense so we talked about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► little bit uh Glen and Scot were on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► show dan and Monty I have you both red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/237">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► red shirts i have all right so why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► you guys let's start with Monty tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► tell me what you thought of Richard's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► liked the middle part at the beginning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► thought the middle part where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► realize they were in a TV show and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► to earth where the TV show is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► produced that yes that at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► when they were purposely running into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► all the tropes i thought was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► obvious and boring and there's about 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► pages after the end of the book when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► scalzi wonders often into some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► writing exercises that I didn't care for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► it all to kodys yeah the code as I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► were completely extraneous to the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► story and hug me up bug me a lot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► kind of like one of those codes as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► recall just because I felt like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► was some humanity in it that maybe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► missing from all of the winking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► nudging that had been going on before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► that that up but it was a an abrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► tonal shift to suddenly have it be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► hey remember those funny jokes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► those guys who died they were real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► people and people mourn their passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► the goat cheese but i'd finally gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► to the point where i was accepting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/313">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► winking indulging I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► I've been enjoyed this book on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► it's too late to make it tried them make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► yeah yeah I can see that dan I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► had this book on your bookshelf for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► long time I didn't and I and I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► and I enjoyed it i'm a fan of skulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► these work in general this this seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► me to fall pretty clearly into the he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► got a couple different veins of writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► i feel like i'm so i really like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/340">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► universe and we talked about the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/345">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► division also a recent polycast this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► strikes me very much of reminding me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► a the androids dream which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► book he wrote his well your novels yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► he writes he's not necessarily quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► successful as someone like Douglas Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► or terry pratchett when it comes to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► sort of being like I'm just gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► total surrealist humor he does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► that I i think a little bit it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► kind of grounded in a plot and it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► has like a dramatic side to it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► also kind of if you sort of take a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► back holy ridiculous the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► entertaining especially as someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► you know watched a lot of star trek in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► the past it's definitely hits those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► chords and the metafictional stuff is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► I didn't just like it to the extent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► Monty did I thought it was fine and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► mean it's also i find you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► talking about now and i read it two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► three months ago and i found i forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► most like I remember what I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► sort of general outlines of it but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► you ask me like I had to look up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► wikipedia page remember the names of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► characters which I guess makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► because they're red shirts but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► characters in the book they were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► in well I remember the the wife of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/417">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► oh yeah well I don't know yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► that's just because i was at the end or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► maybe it's because I again I I cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► about that it would suddenly was sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► these guys were all died right so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► I you know I give it a thumbs up but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► don't know if I would call it my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► favorite you know sci-fi novel or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/437">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► I would not have guessed that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► be nominated for anything except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► John Scalzi has a lot of people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► I think I think you've hit on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► your mom hey yes that's a cream i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► popularity contest is that what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► turns out it's true especially the huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► well not especially but Hugo's by design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► they're voted for by fans so obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/471">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► if if you who have $65 or more writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► so that does that does remove a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► yeah my core audience only has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► twenty bucks that's why I wanted to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► there are only uh only 1113 ballots cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► also for the best level this year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► yeah nostril you feel I feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► should be able to mobilize pretty head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► about that you really want they did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► there how many people really read again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► we're getting a little metal already but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/504">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► how many people really read enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► novels to be able to pick five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► savings to the best five in the sauna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► and the answer is scott is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► person i know they might be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► that might be able to do that unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► you're a professional reviewer working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► for some public yeah exactly instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► what happened is your fan and you ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► obviously and and six of them were by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► people you're a fan of anyway and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► nominate them and red shirts with a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/529">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► high-profile book high enough for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► put it on our list and do an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► about it and yeah I think you read I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► think you read one book because you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► someone on this list and you nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► also and that's how it gets onto yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► think that's I think that's a part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► this is this is part of the I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► is what every awards not just the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► awards oscars are like this i mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► are lots of things like that were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► you people who are more visible are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► going to have a better chance of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► that doesn't mean doesn't guarantee if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► Richards had been a disappointment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► scholars fanbase it would have got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► nominated but he has a fanbase and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► nominated the power-law curve in action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and the Wil Wheaton audiobook I know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► very popular with people so i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/571">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► nervous fear like we talked about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► episode 201 where there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► culture of people who are pals with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► other and promote each other stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► powerful marketing tool it's true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► there's nothing there's nothing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► with that and there's nothing wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► the as long as you come into the Hugo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► knowing that and and writing these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► that's fine when i first started doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► this I didn't really understand how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► Hugo's work so I just assumed that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► they were you know this is the best book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► of the year in science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► fantasy based on some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► laws of the universe right and so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► am ready to crunch the numbers exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► these in the old Hugo tron 5008 products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► the best book I believe they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► frozen brain of Hugo Gernsback who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► actually then they asked he's not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► he's not that's a lie i but i mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► are ways to run a word contest in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► you are it's not that you're requiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► everyone to watch your read everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► and even the Academy Awards I know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► contests but there's this issue of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► you were in an industry and your part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► it and you read and observing your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► know your message to the media then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► may have a better sense of picking which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► the best one is or the best then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► the nebula whatever you know yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► we're definitely the best fan podcast by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► us specifically well that's been proven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► by science i mean i'm pretty confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► I'm pretty comfortable taking her second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► wards are completely valid by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► just so ya know somewhere in every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► in the neutral every source alone and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► of that one of the fastest of sciences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► that your results be repeatable and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► won for best fan who might cast fan / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► news / something general podcast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► was that just rolls right off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► tongue there Jason admit it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► suffice to say the category included a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► slash and parentheses but we won that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► and we were nominated again this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► which again scientifically proves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► therefore proves that we are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► incidentally don't vote for us in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► podcast about science because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► know anything about that you lose but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► all the many many many awards of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► so anyway red shirts you know I I'm am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► agreeing with you guys I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► fine and kind of funny and as a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/716">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► illusions and I like the idea that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► were you know that scholars playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► that you expect it to be the single joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► book and it's got some more twist up its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► sleeve like Monty said that leads that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► interesting middleware they're dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/732">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► with a writer on the TV show and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► freezing up when they realize these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► decisions they're making likely for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► drama are affecting real people in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► parallel universe somewhere and I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► don't want to kotas i thought was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► nice although a lot of fun about up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► total shift so yeah I i would not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► this book and say oh man this is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► be on that Hugo list but I didn't hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► it i liked it i thought it was fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► just thought it was kind of light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► funny and breezy and not anything that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► thought this is a meaningful book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► I'm gonna be remembering 10 years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► now i agree with you Jason completely oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► well the feedback episode people will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► very angry at that I igers well though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► the only thing I described as after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► read it i thought well this is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► oh yeah but because of the policies not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► yeah Kara yeah well I mean yeah it hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► let's move on and I mentioned the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► book that we covered in a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► episode I look these up so I can refer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► all of our interest to them episode 117 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► titled intergalactic fedex which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/795">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► installment in the Vorkosigan saga which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► uh we did a whole podcast about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► earlier books in the series episode 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► way on way back in 24 called my word is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► foreclosed again and these are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► fun books and this was the latest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► it's a little different cause it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► about miles or miles parents it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► his cousin eivin and i as we said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/820">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► at the time back in December and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► was a podcast with Dan Scott and ran on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► I this is a I thought this was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► the best for cosine books in quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► while and was again like Richards kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► of light and funny but i liked it i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► thought it was better than her last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► or three again i'm not sure i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► it has the weight or meaning or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► to be at nominee but every for cosecant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► novel ever seems to have been nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► for a hugo or so okay we'll do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► again the land and Monty you weren't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/853">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► ok try to even try alright fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► to Glen Gillman tell us your tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► your thoughts about what I've never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► any of them although i've heard you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► talking about there's something a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► daunting about when someone's created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► this world this massive set of novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► you like if I go down that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► path there's a lot to read which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► daunting to figure out where you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► describing my 2010 Glenn I when I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► I read that's ten of these do right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► well there's a diagram in Captain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► patrols the lights it's like here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► the books related i'm like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► this is like worse than taken any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► book with a diagram that sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► that's so with no background I barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► even know what the universe is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► picked it up and I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► lightweight but enjoyable by I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► also tell if I bujold is a terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► writer she tells a good story she paints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► characters in sort of broad strokes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► are ok and sometimes she goes in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► then does the detail work to refine them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► a bit but this was sort of a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► silly slightly buffoonish story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► everybody's kind of happy in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► more lesson Lee you know so i thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► was I thought it was enjoyable did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► of what i would expect from a hugo award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► nominated novel but I didn't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► other novels that were not nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► this year of all to read the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► were kind of light on the side by side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► in the last year or last year's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► children and so I didn't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► wouldn't you know this isn't a dune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/948">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► right i mean this isn't something of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/949">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► hitchhiker's guide either and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► get those every year I realized but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► seemed like with red shirts pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► lightweight to be put in this category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► alongside books like that that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► nominated in the past I just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/961">TS</a>]
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00:23:47 ◼ ► young strapping hero right you had your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► old slightly decrepit hero yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► is master and apprentice right and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► the I seen enough of this crap I'm two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► months from retirement investment about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► one less collar to make and then i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► that he's got his young idealistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► I I certainly saw to a dnd prism like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► the old guy while he's the cleric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► he's got a paladin who's holier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► thou and then they meet the fighter lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► wow it's funny because I i happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► that Saladin ran my D&D campaign with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► acquaintance of my kool so I know he i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► know he plays DVD release has run deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► and cracked the code my god I mean who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► didn't start out writing writing novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► versions of their d campaigns not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► well and then the party argued for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► hours or four would pay for the pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► don't egg lat a glass vision with dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► here eating out of the sand some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► stuff in it but it was was a novella or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► maybe a short story that just kept going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► on and on and on the payoff was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► terrible and they had set up kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► weave together a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► things were supposed to enjoy the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► of coincidence or whatever and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► ah you know that your if it had been we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► have been nominated for Best novella or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► short story this year we probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► talked about it relatively positively as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► something that was fresh that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► presented as a new viewpoint wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► rehashing a lot of the common fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► interesting unique elements in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► strong characters but as a novel it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► I you know it's interesting i read well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► taking a break from one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► humans i read that some of that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► these cup of some of his short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► including one that is set in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► with the same characters it's about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► first meeting of the master and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► apprentice and I enjoyed that I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► was a pretty quick read it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► short story but it was um I i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► characters the directions and yes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► they we may have seen some of that type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► intriguing and entertaining and let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► tell you compared to some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► yeah yeah ipi page through this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► pretty pretty at a pretty good clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► I thought it was kind of a mistake to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► have a cool Robin Hood type character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► and then not spend a lot of time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► him because he's more fun than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► stuck-up kid but also the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► element is that really horrible thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► are the spoiler alert goes off before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► even start the episode right spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► this the creepy thing of the beginning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► lot of the chapters where that guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► being you know essentially killed alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► then boiled his head remover like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► is very strong and horrifying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► compelling and he keeps the suspense up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► and then the actual thing is oh he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► like a sergeant and all his men will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► respond to him is like really that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► whole payoff of that yellow thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► oh I was actually the most disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► things the novel the whole climax I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► really liked I mean I say that it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► these trappings and otherwise it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► I like the trappings I like that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► Prince kind of comes and goes and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► he's too powerful character almost it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► not his story but he you know that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► gonna cause he's going to cause some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► trouble but at the end you know you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► end up in this situation where there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► this palace and it's it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► almost like a runaround Aurora are far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► swear their various rooms in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► various doors that open and don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► stuff and I I had trouble with geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► and I i I just I thought really it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► ends up to this that they run back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► forth in a bunch of rooms and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► throne and I mean it's in the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► there's some buttons or whatever and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► just it seemed it did seem kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► abrupt and that the fact that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► we've been leading up to the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► soldiers and that was kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► it was a whole long way to go for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► one little thing that pill that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► happens so so yeah I like I mean I i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► say that it's bog-standard and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► got this interesting trappings you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► but the trappings were the best part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► like that and I did like the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► character I like that he's grizzled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that he's world-weary but he just has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► do this and he's you know he's had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► enough of this crap but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► matter he still got to do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► nobody else will I liked all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► about it and don't forget the madam with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► oh yeah i mean that and I know what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► surprising again not not not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► different from a character you might see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► in george RR martin except that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► setting but the fact that she's got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► that this guy is this this pious guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► he's sort of sort of yeah i know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► again I i thought the characters were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► interesting it was just more than I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► realizing as i read it that it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► anything I hadn't read or seen on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► setting was was you know a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► culture than we're used to but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► just like it I I a spoiler alert i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► yeah if you actually could have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► doctor who episode with small changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► i did like the shifting povs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► finale where they kind of let the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► move you from one character to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► where this character is out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► action so now another character has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► step in and he takes over the narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► is also having said that I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► pretty sick of novels that insist on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► multiple point of view characters right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► i want to mention there's two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► novels of people like this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► approach these two of the ones that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► really like that are announced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► number of years old one is Shiva 3000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► which is a sort of fantasy sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► that takes place in a universe in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► all of india's gods may or may not exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► it's a really great read from I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► 1999 I've read it multiple times and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► other one is I cannot recall the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► of it maybe we can put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► and find myself somewhere it's a book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► which greek science is actually way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► world is run so the university center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► interlocking Spears the music of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► spheres if you throw something through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► space it throws in a straight line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► then the velocity is gone it plummets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► intricate story told in that in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► different cultures combined and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► different worldviews are actually all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► the gentlemen in this universe and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► a really beautiful II told story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► there are ways to tell that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► different point of view in which magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► or some kind of combination science and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► magic are different and you can do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► think really rewarding Lee so am i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► in there oh no so Scott and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► blackout as we've read the other two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► books in the series the newsflash series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► by merit grant which is a pseudonym for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► urban fantasy writer shot and McGwire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► but Monty you read it too didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► yes I read blackout and I had not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► either of the other two and Glenn did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► you read it too i was actually making my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► way across the desolate plains of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► novel and in tweeted about it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► and i was given permission by you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► I still read about Iran I was shamed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► into reading it now i know that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► that's how I read about a third of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► and was despairing it was told I was off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► the hook so I i stopped at Point with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► grateful that Marie I didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► yes I couldn't live with it alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► we read so famously we read two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► ago we read feed and our are short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► review of feed was don't read feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► because it wasn't very good it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► well written and this is a series set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► its it's in the future after a zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► apocalypse but not a complete apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► it's sort of a zombie inconvenience more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► electricity is still functioning there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► seems to be so there's slightly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► just that there are lots of dead zones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► and a lot of people die dammit now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► nobody can have big pets because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► the episode when we talk about feed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► called zombie Marmaduke because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► get a big enough dog it can turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► zombie but small dogs don't turn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► zombies and there are bloggers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► bloggers tell the news like it is man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► and they post things on the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► they fight the power mandar but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► to be licensed to be a blogger yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► got a contentious make sense yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► doesn't that's not how blogging works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► internet that's available all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► everywhere with no maintenance required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► for cellular towers or anything to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► pretty incredible that's yes there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► also ultra luxury hotels available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► really there are removing their forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► yeah well that's behalf of the books do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► that basically you have to do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► to be there so in the first book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► main character Georgia Mason dies toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► the end split sorry no monumental why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► well thats not not as much of a spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► as we thought at the time though haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► first line of blackout is her dying yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► so so she dies and i thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► the best thing in the book because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► was at least a bold move by the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► writer to do that but we didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► Scott I didn't like the book and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► didn't like the sequel deadline in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► is told by her brother and she and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► brother had that their adopted and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► have this creepy relationship which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► never really kind of I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► brother-sister they are adopted after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► all it's not entirely incest but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► creepy is creepy so in so in in at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► end of deadlines we discover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► clone of Georgia who has come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► what I and and all and i remember very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► clearly Scott saying don't talk so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► about her dying in that book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► alternating set of narrators we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► Shawn and Georgia clone Georgia as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► she figures out where she is and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► she's a clone and he drives around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► because there's conspiracies their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► to do something about mosquitoes but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► don't really seem to care that much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense it yeah really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► doesn't say like they have all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► great incredible security at the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► where the mad scientist is doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► research except Tommy's just get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► there get in because they only have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► in there they do good protocol and sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► like roaches just getting it's covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► oh and don't forget don't forget he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► can't be infected with the zombie virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► for sorry can be only gets a little sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► he's actually coming suddenly he Shaun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Mason is is is immune to zombie listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► you have to take antibiotics to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► some sick but it does not make a zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► and that doesn't even really play into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► the plot where know you think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► such a thing no it's like a vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► hunter can become a vampire because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► already is part of that you get Glen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► lending money you guys didn't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► other two books right right now okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► you see you maybe not yeah probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► yeah you made me off this will shock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► I thought this was by far the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► the three yes i agree here i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► take one side but no matter which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► Shane is only Prince John I think shawna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► and shawna I liked one of the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► stories she wrote that was nominated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► Hugo the cell end she's yes I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► one very much i read multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► she's extremely funny and kind and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► didn't even know it was her when i first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► started following on Twitter recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► when the issue came about sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► feminist issues she's really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► funny person I sort of feel terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► because this the stuff is terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► terribly written if it's a very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2098">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► so there's no reason she will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► what she's doing and she's ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► productive she's the Glen fleischmann of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► science fiction/fantasy writing when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► Gigi's Glenn you're talking like yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► did that's called branding right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► you did it yourself i'm in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► quantity quantity relentlessness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► she's the lex friedman of glory its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► habitat that's pretty good with ya now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► I'm sure she's a lovely lovely perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► this is just a terrible it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► fanfiction that fan fiction it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► something that desperately need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► editor and shouldn't have been printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► I almost wonder if this was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► she wrote earlier in her life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► brought it out of a cold out of a trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► novel and and put it under a pseudonym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► and then and and it sold well yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► don't know that's just pure speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► on my part so so here's the thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► i wiII Scott my kind of were famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► among listeners to this show about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► we beat me to death and it's very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► that we find something and we kick it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► death it does happen occasionally man of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► steel the Avengers with Andy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► some other things that we've done where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► we've kicked him to death but uh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► to say I think I maybe have figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► why i don't like these books mean yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► uh characters aren't good i had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► why they did what they did at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► them with the writing is not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► at science is Ben there's a moment I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► mentioned a weird relationship by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► way I i think i even maybe I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► bring up my kindle notes about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► there's a moment in this book where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► think she seriously expect us to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► shocked when we discover that Shauna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► Georgia have a sexual relationship that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► they had their entire life where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► remember my armor Scott I talking when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► we were in the midst of reading feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► about how creepy the twins were because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► they were totally all buying each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► and all over each other twins or or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► brother and sister and I thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► year is this really really a revelation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► yeah it's clear from reading the book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► mean i just read this book and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► his crown I kept forgetting whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► were brother and sister or husband and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► white i had to go back and check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► their adopted this effort leads not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► they're not genetically related so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► not technically incest like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► that's our episode title that's the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► book and serious not technically incest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► by programs either i misunderstand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► misunderstand this or or she has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► opinion of her readers that is vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► different from my opinion as a reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► because i would like to well if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► these books you're not that discerning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► wasn't sure force 3 and I you know I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► they are you know they're mindless reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► right and like zombies hey you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► ahead read your it's your time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► they're not very good if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► zombies I say don't read these books is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► not if you like this could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► conspiracies man who can be unbearably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► one over by the bloggers then read these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► books is that they're zombies content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► what is what is the CDC doing all this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► don't okay so the villain of the piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► is the Centers for Disease Control there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► in the evil the most evil organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► kellis-amberlee virus which causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► zombie-ism because reasons because evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► reasons hilaria reasons yes uh and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► the heroes are some other three letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► acronym government organization that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► fighting a sec so yeah so bizarre the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► oversight Department of the division of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► government ecological over stairs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► ridiculous climax in the white house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► that could now never conceivably happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► in the White House where the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► is running around and my biggest problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► in there are a lot of problems with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► is my biggest one is so there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► what's-her-face George yeah and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► very important plot point anything okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► well they've done this for a reason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► it should be a good reason right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► is an incredibly stupid reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► spend millions and millions and millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► of dollars to clone her because the vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► president the president is being held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► captive by the CDC the bike rack is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► only way that he can get them out is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► so the dead bloggers can tell the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and the CDC because the the public will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► not trust anyone else and then the CDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► will be forced to release the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► you missed something that Scott you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► missed something because they're the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► CDC's evil plan is to perfect the clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► so she's exactly Georgia and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► they perfected the back it off a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► bit so that she's not perfect they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► going to use the perfect Georgia clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► millionaires or something or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► good yeah it's this month but then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► then at the climax at the climax they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► like okay where we have to save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► president so let me make a phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► and then I'd ok the president saved what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► why did you bother clone Georgia so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► haven't said the thing the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► think rubs me rose me wrong about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► books more than all of this because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► reason i said this was the best is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► feel like her I feel like her individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► like action set pieces were better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► this than the first 2i thought that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► was this was a much more capably written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► book in that way but what what really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► drives me crazy and it's been throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► these books is there's a lot of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► just bad style i think is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► offends me the most is that with all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► said about the ridiculous plot it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► pleasant to read I could forgive a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► of it was enjoyable to actually read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► words but there's so much repetition so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► much and insistence on details and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► donation can I get you a couple of a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► canonical right now yeah that would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► would really enjoy opening a coke every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► time I'm gonna get you a coke and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► think that I think coke might be sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► while you're doing that Glenn I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► to jam my thumb on a zombie virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► detector reader and what happens you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► when that happens is needles bite into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► my thumb and then the blood comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► and then I wait as the light goes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► red to green to red to green to red to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► green to red to green oh green I'm say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► so i gotta send it on my thumb here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► before you get that can cook for you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► i have to do that first before as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► then haha so you jam your thumb in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► and the needles go see because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► what happened or is that comes that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► this information is repeated every few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► is across all three books the same names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► something with the state it's a nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► places you don't need zombie scanner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► all the plants so those details that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► unnecessary and and then things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► don't make sense and you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► that's it is stylistically I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► these books are a failure plus the plots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► are nonsensical so I don't know she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► a following she's a huge fan base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► Sean Maguire got nominated for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► seven Hugo's or something this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► she's in the podcast categories in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► short story categories in the novella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► she's all she's I think she's in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► other categories she's all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► place and that's great because she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► I hope they love her for some of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► other works that are presumably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► than me is because all three of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► books are awful and I was generous with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► this one on goodreads I gave it two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► it's so funny because I people usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► accuse us you know we starting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► specifics about something people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► what you have an animus against this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► author something it's like no I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► nine of us have anything against I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► nothing about this it races all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► these are really terrible i mean i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that this is a really terrible thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► read it was so bad I could not I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► want to finish it went well didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► to i did not i have to really specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► things i did not like about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► lay upon us one is everybody is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► it's like a joss whedon fanfic kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► thing where it was especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► she keeps talking about somebody named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► buffy who I never saw because she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► in this book yes she dies in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► book she's just she's really in hacker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► who as Scott pointed out since God is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► IT professional encrypted the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► valuable database on earth with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► yeah like her name is really good here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► couple of things people actually say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► this book at incredibly tense moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► could we go with a slightly less out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► worthy doomsday weapon next time okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► that's it no more mr. nice heavily-armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► really pissed off journalist Beck's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► yeah you know flap flap squeak squeak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► we come in peace i called more quietly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► added for Beck's benefit i have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► wanted to say that I think that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► they're taking the vice-president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► you don't say that then you can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► that quickie of all the time anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► she's either theory she's an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► good programmer and shut down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► software that this is one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► ok so here's my explanation for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► books is is that uh huh and I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► one its it reads to me like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► who's pictured a a movie in their head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► and is literally just writing down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► dialogue and writing down the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► movements and writing down the yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► know it what they're seeing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► screen and so every time somebody stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► their finger in the reader she has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► explain what the finger thing is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► but that's how it feels to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► dialogue especially is painful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► there's so much of it and it's so rep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► repetitious and pointless and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► there's no sense uh in the entire book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► of compression she doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► that if you have five characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► they need to go somewhere that's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► rooms away that you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► describe them opening each door stepping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► through each room what's in each room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► opening the next door until they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► the next room in these books every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► single thing that could happen from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► end to the other and every word that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► every character might say or think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► detailed and it's that's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► writing doesn't need to have that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► writing you just end up in the next room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► and as you the writer does shorthand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► say well and when they got to that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► this is what happened that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and this book has no sense of importance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► and not importance of scenes they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► just they're all just frames at 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► frames per second in the movie in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► writers head as far as i can tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► brilliant thing that douglas adams wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► in i think in the third or fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► hitchhiker's guide book about where said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► you know readers you might have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► question about the things I leave out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► and he goes things like for instance if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► i were to tell you about our thursday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► and our sister gets up he scratches one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► side then he gets up he does this hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► eat something and it's all a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► actually has sex with with venture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► church but it's very funny thing of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► what it would be like for a writer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► write all the details excruciating Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► what actually happened i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► what you described yeah but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► whole book of that trilogy for you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► your finger on trilogy really more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► a book another thing i did not like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► Monty yes or I to other specific things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► ok but what is at the beginning I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► gonna shout or even the horse but I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► here zombie have sweet kill hooks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► beat up I've just got this 1i I made you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► read it you should talk as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► need to get out i'm listening at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► beginning of each chapter there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► descriptions of what happened and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► weird because a lot of time it's by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► same person who's the first person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► narrator of these things yes but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► they're going to give us excerpt from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► their lawyer and haha where unpublished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► blog published on log and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► dates drafts that's not a thing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► people are taking time to write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► stuff down that was what I wondered is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► when did they have time to write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► unplugged published blog entries during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► this adventure who is time to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► unpublished blog entries if it's a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► finally there's just one sentence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► it's describing the Fox would lose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► ludicrously colorful psychotic character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► they run into it was very weak me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► oh yes as she claimed her hands over her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► ears i saw that she was holding a nasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► look he's a nasty-looking snipers pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► first i'm not sure the snipers pistol is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► i think most laborers use rifles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► yeah she's for clamping her hands over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► her ears while holding a sniper's pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► isn't she just gonna knock yourself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► or something we can only hope she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► crazy money she's crazy just crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► like that cause she's crazy but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► supposed to be holding the pistol on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► them and said she's alright yeah alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► it's what we're saying is it's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► read it good but what it if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► listen to it on audible thank you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► narrators read any two pages of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► you got the whole thing yes lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► redundancy is lots of we don't let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► alright let's move on i've said i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► saved for fifth Kim Stanley Robinson is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► 2312 the winner of the nebula award for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► best science fiction novel of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► this is 2312 is set in the sometime in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► the early 23 hundreds the German sherlyn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► um so I've been waiting like five weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► to make that joke haha and you abused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► your self-pity ideas and it's sadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► accurate because it's not exactly set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► it's a it's Grand Tour kind of novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► it's it's got scenes on Mars and Mercury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► and earth and in the outer planets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► the moons of jupiter and saturn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► asteroids and it tells it this far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► future story it tells of there's a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► and there's also lots of detail of sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► of the future of of human society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► culture and I think as somebody who read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► the red blue green Mars trilogy which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► by Kim Stanley Robinson it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► maybe be set in the same universe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► sort of soft petals the Mars stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► that led me to believe that it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► is the same or at least similar universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► and this is yes this is one lots lots o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► awards so when I talked about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► with Glenn Glenn said that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► started reading it was so furious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► he put it down and we had to coax him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► into reading the rest of it which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► think he did and dan dan you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► stretch most of this right i I'm about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► hundred and fifty pages from the end a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► lot wait a long time to say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► about this classy something with us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► when I started so i'm a long time Kim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► Stanley Robinson fan I even would refer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► to as ksr as his fans too i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► red-green-blue Mars ones and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► some of the best science fiction since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► dune since the first do not the sequel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► tremendous scope tremendous scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► insight great characters ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► verse to deal with characters over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► I read other novels and short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► read written and read nonfiction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► i bought this from amazon in hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► the moment came out pre-ordered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► picked it up and started reading it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► I thought I'd had a brain aneurysm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► in fact I wrote an article for The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► Economist's package blog about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► scored double check whether i'd actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► had a stroke or seizure because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► started reading it I thought this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► characters are uninspired the science is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► bad this camp that by the there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► instantaneous communication without an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► answer was always like a distant and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► actually thought is something wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► me because it can't be wrong with Kim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► he's been all this great stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► end of course it's it's not me it's him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► and I think I overreacted a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► because when i came back to watch just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► timed that does not sound like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► doesn't sound I do anything under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► reacted but I came back to it and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► opinion is is is it's still I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► it and we can talk about it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► forth but it's not as horrible seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► excited such high expectations from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► anything you would write because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► never disappointed me in the past and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► thought this was another sprawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► wonderful installment in his work and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► is not but I didn't finish the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► entirely opposite spectrum of Glen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► terms of going into this which is then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► red red mars maybe I don't know 10 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► years ago and found it dull didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► any other books Nets here using did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► do not remember that we're all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► not liking it and I went into this and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► also found stop there are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► things I every once in a while I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► it takes about a hundred and fifty pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► before you hit a plot and that to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► the problem number one right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► there's there's there's there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► like you sort of start out with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► character who's died and the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► yes and so on certain supposed to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► it's not clear with that work is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► are lots of other people involved it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► not really clear what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► either and it takes about a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► fifty pages before somebody tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► blow up a city on Mercury her city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► I was like ok now we finally cut into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► the point of this story at which point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► you with and spend 1 240 bitches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► dawdling around and dr. King's point as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► a stronger i want to read i will read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► the thing i'm reading this and and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► agree that it's like with is going said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► it's flat except every once in awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► little stuff pokes through and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► amazed that it's like i start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► like you know maybe like wipe away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► dirt you're like oh I'm trying to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► what he was going for it so i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► read the one line that made me laugh out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► loud a lot and it's in one of the lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► chapters their these breaks breakouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► where they have like lists or extracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► from other pieces of work or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► yeah there's a list where they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► list of all the different types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► terrariums these artificial structures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► different types of trends they had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► this was my favorite was the st. George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► a social terrarium in which the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► think they are living in a mormon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► polygamy was going to consider it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► lesbian world with a small percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► male lesbian that made me laugh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► made me laugh and I was like wait am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► reading this book rock because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► this book is supposed to be funny and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► have come across have come across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► couple of things subsequently that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► were actually amusing or like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► made me chuckle a little bit we did john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► scalzi write this book is this not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► entire medical resilient material may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► but I can't quite i mean i don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► understand maybe I'm not very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► transcription happen after overtime so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► you also have the Straits a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► perplexing i was on the boing boing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► presumably the only reason they asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► is glad recommended me with a sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► writer run as a mom who is so he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► written some really interesting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► that maybe we'll talk about in a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► podcast he and he loved 2312 and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► to admit i said i don't i don't okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► it's good for you I I you know you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► smart guy in a science fiction writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► love for this Scott you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► what is your take on on 2312 as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► remember it I know you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► probably been months since Iran's book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► and it has been a while but i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► that I this is the book that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► voted 4-2 win the ok conflict here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► understand how people can hate it as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► was reading it and like I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► this but I understand why people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► there's an unlikable character for large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► portions of the book you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► it is rambling there are weird chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► with just lists and fragments of texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► these are not things that make a book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► combination really worked well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► of there's this kind of the stroke right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► that humanity when you reach a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► level of technological advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► people just get bored and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► nothing to do and that's kind of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► thought was the kind of the the Swan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► main character who is kind of all she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► haha horrible person she's not a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► person but she's interesting is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► i was just nice she's also dumb and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► lots of dumb things she does some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► dumb thing so she's bored and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► says hey I know what I'll do I'll inject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► this alien bacteria into my system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► see what happens right and so the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► is a bad things happen right so she that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► potentially to do you want accident yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► so we don't know what's happening right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► and then there's this other guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► likes her for some reason and but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► frogman or whatever I can be brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► about a war on with a w was a war on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► barham mrnas named thousand times i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► yeah he falls in love with her but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► is really incapable of love so edgy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► uses him and he like walks for like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► months under the surface of mercury to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► save her life and she's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► whatever you can walk a little faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► that seems for me was reflected out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► yeah speak speaking of people of Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► oh my true but I thought that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► point of it right it was and and tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► that you don't need it but that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► point he was making he was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► make you feel like the web how those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► accomplished and I i can agree that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► you that it might not work well I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► argue at work because it was in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► boring but I thought that was the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► way and as and I also i really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► facts are there there's this big city on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► Mercury that's on the track the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► has to get out of the sun's way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► thought I would bring it this is stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► because who would ever live on this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► of a precarious situation and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► something's gonna happen to the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► and then I thought well people do live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► at the base of volcanoes people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► ever so it's kind of makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► technological arrogance you're not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► why not live in a moving city on Mercury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► what could have I would be way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► impressed had I not seen that exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► device in a 2-3 zone Star Wars novel 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► well I probably read that novel but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► don't remember the other thing that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► me though was you know obviously even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► forget all that i mentioned i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► describing life I got brain damage was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► because the the science didn't work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► he's a serious researcher of science and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► reason to Mars books one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► that's nice about them is the ecological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► geological like there's so much in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► that is accurate self-consistent and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► learn a lot about Mars as it is now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► fact ring them it's got that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► science really tries to not do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► that are impossible then you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► thing and he even States a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► times i've talked about redundancy good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► gravy but he states seemingly number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► computers but they can't untangle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► quantum entanglement far enough to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► coherence you can't get very far apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► the elements so you can make an ansible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► which is a great device word coined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► Ursula K Le Guin in I think left hand of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► darkness one of the early books for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► device that basically it's the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► MacGuffin on the government's the forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► the deus ex machina you need in science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► fiction as you have communicators that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► are very far apart and they can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► together instantly because stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► there should not be any ansibles in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► universe and yet people talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► other seemingly instantaneously without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► any explanation and they also travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► across the breadth and length of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► solar system including out of the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► time without any explanation it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► need an explanation that's good let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► party that's well everything is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► exactly but he he has just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► science in it the ebay is just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► science in it that you expect him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► offer here i'm gonna wave my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► explain why this works and i'll accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► that because that's part of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► contradictory to the ability for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► university self-consistent and it irks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► well i did not get the feeling better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► the the trips between and they make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► lot of trips to different planets but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► did not get the feeling with those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► chronologically dates the chapter so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► don't really know how long it a no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and instead of the novel i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► supposed to take place within a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► years but it was they don't know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► they're so they sell there are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► long-lived right so they could take 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► years they could just be there hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► asteroids the guy in venus is only there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► for short you can track the guy in venus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► is there for a certain period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► and what happened to the guy in Venus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► was like apparently accidentally placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► there and winds up being completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► critical to the entire current order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► the solar system not being disrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► because that's how this novel works so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► often when does like the science the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► science didn't bother me so much things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► bother me about this novel sissies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► the so the the Grand Tour aspect of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► dan says that the plot doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► start for a while and I said you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► is that really the point I i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► the plot is this terrorist kind of fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► plot about they blow up the going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► like the rocks because it through these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► AIS that are uncontrolled that are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► able to figure out these precise details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► connected but then they come together at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► the very last minute and they blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► things up & it and it's not necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► that the story is it's an excuse to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► these characters on this tour of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► humanity is going to be like in 2312 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► if you really if that works for you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► a wonderful tour of the solar system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► a vision of what the future of humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► where humanity is taking a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► it's very different from a distant which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► which I i think is to its credit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► if you look at something like Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► that supposedly set in the far future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► essentially in the culture hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► changed the fact is that in in 70 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► of life 60 years of life people see huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► cultural change in the world around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► if you go ahead 300 years the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► change is going to be mind-blowing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► terms of things that we think of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► awful today like I suppose injecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► yourself with alien microbes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► Enceladus her we're right in being very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► of very sexualized I don't mind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► sexual identity stuff that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► generation a bunch of different genders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► in a bunch of different roles very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► complicated to keep tracking is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► much better so I like that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► this is what the future is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► very alien because 300 years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► you if humanity is still alive at eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► you know at all the asteroids or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► it's going to be very different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► engine would be shocking to us just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► you frankly our culture of 40 years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► now will be shocking to us as we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► grumpy old men so that's all that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► science-fictional my problems are first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► off as a grand tour novel I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► better but it's not groundbreaking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► may be an interesting vision but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► charles stross is Saturn's children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► which was nominated a couple years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► which the main character is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► sexpot but I thought it was better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► it was a better grand tour of the solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► system in the future it's very al any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► any grand tour that includes the sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► it's good it's a very it's very spaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► off broken loose X but it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► know we're gonna go show you all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► planets and how the different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► people live now so I didn't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► was special and and then the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► that really bothered me about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► yes Juan is it is a an awful character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► and you don't have to have likable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► characters but it's harder you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► work harder if your main character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► awful and does stupid things and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► everybody in the book for no good reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► because she's bored or doesn't care or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► doesn't think through her actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► she's like she's like a walking talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► plot complication like the plot would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► too simple Swan didn't come by and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► something stupid but she's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► problem I have with this is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► in Glen and I were talking about it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► it's interesting that they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► the future of people having different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► genders and multiple genders at once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► all the different forms of sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► coupling and all of that and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► that was interesting but at the core of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► this book is this relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► Swan this awful person and warm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► and was very nice and they and who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► very nice fellow and she's awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► he's nice but he loves her i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► kind of inexplicably but sometimes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► happens Phoenix the heart doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► from logic ok I'll go with that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► in the end I guess the novel sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► portrays that they they get married and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► they or they are in a relationship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► attachment at the very end I guess but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► um that was that actually really bug me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► because in the history in all of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► history there is emotion and love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► Perry pair bonding and in this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► felt like Kim Stanley Robinson excelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► at imagining all sorts of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► that human humans could change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► plumbing and their gender identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► their sexual orientation but he couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► imagine a future with people who love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► each other and and and when I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► that this relationship that supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► be at what the novel hinges on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► completely barren of any feeling at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► and it's all about the plumbing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► that's when I got mad at this novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► said this is a guy who loves playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► with planets but doesn't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► about people and at that point I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► that I hated it so that's my story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► think that's I think this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► interesting cerebral imagination like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► where it in his little imagination land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► of the future but as as a novel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► human beings and what it means to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► human in 2312 look to a writer who isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► Kim Stanley Robinson because he failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► it's weird though because the Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► novels he doesn't have that problem at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► it's it's all about people and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► something about people that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► all nice but they're interested and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► their relationships are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► complicated scene / f two fat it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► it just felt like these people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► awful people who felt no feelings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► even when there was a feeling like war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► on liking Swan it made no sense and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► was almost like he was like adopting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► I just didn't I felt no love in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► complicated character he has he has he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► has various moods and darkness is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► transforms and through the novel's Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► is like one of the strongest characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► and is not a nice guy for most of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► you respect time well its dynamics ax is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► a member sacks is a memorable older in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► there and he'll expose completely flawed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► human being but it's very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► and and and swan is an interesting she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► very flawed she's not very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► anyway I feel like we came into swans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► life at a point where she had done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► terrarium said she was not romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► dreams and she was done and she's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► untethered to the world kind of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► for for meaning and failing to find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► relationship she fails to find it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► grandmother's work she just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► she's unhappy and 2312 alien microbes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► no way eyes can't help nothing could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► help her the way I think drove me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► because it's like oh my god the AIS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► wait a minute we should turn them off so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► they can't hear us because of course an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► off button AIS will work perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► hey I if I turn you off will you be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► to hear me oh no not at all well we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► to trust me i really wanted to buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► yes damn Donna Marino yes i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► this I i don't think i have encountered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► a book that was probably better read on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► in ebook form because the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► words i had to look up in this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► yeah I looked up a lot of work that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► yeah he seemed to really like words I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► totally see what this was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► though this was supposed to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► melding of money and you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► was supposed to be this very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► melting of the ton of different ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► had percolating the idea of journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► pages from someone who is almost an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► undead hand of this person trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► help turn the entire you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► I'm not empire but you a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► planets trying to strife it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► journals her dead hand guiding them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► through this fragmentary knowledge being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► presented through sort of a flawed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► grandchild who matures and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► someone and you know that happens though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► it's all just separate individual weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► stuff that happens and that's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► doesn't work for me is that it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► no lightning and that's that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► was complaining about what the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► centers use write the story as an excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► to get them to move around and explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► this world because he really just wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► to show you this world he's envisioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► and that's great but you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► not the medium for them it's a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► Archer without the interactive part yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► I don't it's an info dump it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► infidel yeah when telling you from 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► pages like I've got all these cool ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► really envision things i like i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► people at the edge of the solar system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► who are building the ship to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► another world and the AI thing i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► like i like the word salad actually of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► the day is that are trying to be people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and that occasionally you instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► getting these weird info dumps of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► reference material you get these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► salads of its like this is how an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► artificial intelligence thinks and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► I thought that was pretty cool but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► know again that these are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that I mean I can see why people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► like the Grand Tour and like this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► writer who has written so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► giving you this vision of the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► revisiting some of the territory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► some of his most famous work other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► things i can say that i liked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► but in the end I mean this is it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► this is like when I try to tell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► about why i didn't like inception and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► and it's it's not that I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► bad like poorly executed it's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► thought about it for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► that's not the same as saying oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► a crappy movie it's like this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► interesting work that I want to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► about a lot and then in the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► verdict is actually i think by thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► about it i've determined that I hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► and that's sort of how I feel about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► is that i had to think about it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► about why i had the feelings i did about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► it but in the end I don't I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► failure but I I know I i would argue yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► play at to represent the best piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► of any genre it should be the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► makes you think the most whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► right so I is ideally I would like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► and it would make me think well I me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► i think but it depends on what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► reading right then i have lots of notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► during blackout does that mean it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► I like what I thought in blackout is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► mostly why God why the benefile I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► think i came down somewhere in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► you Jason and Scott which is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► don't know that i have the energy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► hate this book is no middle ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► I is what I was just like I was i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► reading this you know and i'm slogging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► through it and I'm reading it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► in my major amount of reading time which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► is like right before i go to bed and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► me tell you how this is not a great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► three right-handers go to bed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► only unless you want to go to bed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► which case it was great but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► just I don't know it's I I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► don't the energy you spoke in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► fascinating i mean i-i love that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► got all these different different views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► about this book and you know again I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► talked and talked to people who hated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► and then I've seen people love it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► it's won awards and I don't hate it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► incompetently I mean again my apologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► my apologies to mirror grant and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► writer behind the pseudonym but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► book that's not executed well at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► it's just a bad book is poorly written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► it's bad in every conceivable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► essentially this is not like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► is not the work of somebody doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► what he's doing he knows exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► he's doing and and full credit for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► he's got a lot of really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► there's a lot that he's thrown in here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► don't think it works but you gotta give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► him credit it is not an empty box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► he's trying to foist off on this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► he's a smart guy is is something didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► something did not work here it's things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► that are bland can make us crazier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► things we hate because yeah I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► strongly about something that you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► your like here's why and these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► wrong and just run off into other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► it's horrible when its blend you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► what I will say there was one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► really did like in this was the rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► warm i thought that was very clever very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► well hidden throughout it and it built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► up it was the only plot thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► actually sort of made sense and was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► through line to the end but then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► you determined the cause of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► absurd an interesting but the idea of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► and how it was built into the plot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► actually rather close yeah that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► point where i started to get interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► as I actually liked the mystery part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► favorite chapters in there are the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► with the inspector was they try to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► of puzzle through this is what we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► referred to as he settles we'll take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► did you notice i got noticed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► there's a trick that there's a trick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► there every time the inspector genette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► is mentioned there's never i would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► can't confirm this I haven't searched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the entire novel there's never a gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► use always on Jeanette which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► typically all I saw uses hehe yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► think we're saying yes because i noted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► saw it there and set and thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► myself wasn't when I was not a willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► but it 20 but in 2312 could have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► who identify as male and that means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► the year their penis is larger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► I not that they don't have both also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► also i love that we haven't invented we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► have invented new pronouns despite make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► what we have but Kim Stanley Robinson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► has to translate them for our crazy 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► how about a novel just about inspector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► genette because I kinda like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► reminded me of the the main character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► the in the book that we read i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► remember now Scott it was the copy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► the space based on door yeah happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► zombie that guy that you know yeah he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► had a space he was with a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► character the best character in the yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► the thing that was reminded me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► here which again speaking of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► operate deep deep space humanity out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► outer solar system kind of fun thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► books that i enjoyed more than this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► but so okay we have five we have five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► novels who uh I'm gonna I'm gonna ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► each of you two were two to rank them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► really quickly from best to worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► crescent moon first and then I have a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► a large drop off and then I think I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► captain for patrol and then red shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► because i actually like those and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► Scott what about you don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► that ranking but awards falls somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► between twenty somewhere around 2312 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► ven captain for people's alliance throne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► of the crescent moon redshirts no award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► yes no blackouts like we agree on no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► damn i'll say captain Orbital Sciences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► my favorite I then i will say thrown to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► the crescent moon which is second should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► win or should have won because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► series thing redshirts 2012 didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► blackout and feel like I'm okay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► I guess it's things i like to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► enjoyed reading the water enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► reading them which I hope corresponds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► order i think i should be recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► to people is I think capital patrols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► Alliance red shirts throw the crescent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► moon and I LSA differentiate between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► them but you know sort of loosely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► that order and then a very very very far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► down 2312 and i would not recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► don't throw the crescent moon made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► want to read more by that author red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► shirts made me generally away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► reading more skulls you want to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► center of more things by the hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► well the problem is every time I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► something by john scalzi is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► somebody has linked me to him being or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► yeah so I got kinda tired of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► Richards kind of turned me around on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► that it so he can actually write fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► yeah it's on my bookshelf there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► of things i will show me out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► ok that's a good place for it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► willing to why i will be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► see what actually wins the hugo I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► would guess it's going to be red shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► because because scalzi tickets although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► Kim Stanley Robinson won the nebula so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► who votes on the nebula scifi writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► yes yes science specialist association [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► yes is that the fan mobilization I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► what won the last two years wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► the know uh blackout all-clear bye-bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► connie willis my mother liked my joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► ok says it's reliable so she's got she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► got the she's got the chops to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► nominated for other zombie novels but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► not when so far no she won't she won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► so if ya blackouts not going to it now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► keep telling yourself that this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► telling Hugo yeah i think we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► added for if ultimatum if-if-if blackout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► wins if any of those novels win then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► switch it and next year you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► listening to us talk about the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► are the nebula nominees instead and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► speaking of which I wanted to point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► one of the nebula nominees I've read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► NK jemisin who wrote an excellent low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► that was a huge nominee and and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► written a great trilogy this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► first book in a new series called dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► the book is called the killing moon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► was nominated for the nebula but not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► hugo and I don't know if you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► scott glenn may have I it will i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► say i would say it's better than any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► the hugo nominees I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► it's not it's not super spectacular one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► of my favorites of all time kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► thing but i liked it and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► things I liked about it all is although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► it's got some of the setting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► culturally that throw the crescent moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► does and that it's this middle eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► desk culture not just like a patina over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► a standard story no it's very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► about a guy who's like a a taker of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► souls but he's a compassionate taker of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► souls and there's a whole Brotherhood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► the compassionate takers of souls but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► they can be corrupted in turn to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► Reaper which is an evil stealer of souls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► for bad purposes and there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► an evil king and there is this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► political imagination thing happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► and a war between these two there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► ambassador and and there it's it's uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► it's there's the whole there's entry got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► majestic master and there's a master and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► an apprentice and it's it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► throwing the crescent moon and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► better than the five nominees so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► you're if you're if we have dispirited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► you about the hugo nominees maybe try NK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► jemisin is killing moon she has written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► a bunch of this is our fourth I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► novel you wrote that trilogy and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► this this is the first in this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► series i thought was really good so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► think she and I think she's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► cuz i know you guys really liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► the other two books in the trilogy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► started with hundred thousand kingdoms i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► think was the first book you have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► dogs all three hours the first thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► would say all three of them were better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► than me this year's nominees each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► them is where the good trilogy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► actually out there it is controlled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► yes that's why are you licensed nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► books that I thought should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► probably the best one is the the fractal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► prints but based on the reactions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► 2312 everyone other than me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► podcast will hate the fractal friends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► i read the first book in that series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► quite liked it so do you get kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► cranks up the the we're on the yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► almost in kind i did not she think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► was one of the ones where I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► think I would like it and i almost put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► it down within the first 20 pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► then I don't know what hooked me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► really ended up enjoying that book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► and I i was just looking at my wishlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► and notice that the fractal prince was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► I'll and you should read it ok I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► know what youre anything came out but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► just read the night circus and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► oh yeah I like that one Wow was a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► years ago that's what looks hows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► wasn't long time wasn't the wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► yeah I nominated it and it didn't work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► was gonna say that was my one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► favorite books from this year get it won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► the australian equivalent good fan good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► friend ya mate which is in methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► it drives on the wrong side of the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► as a politician yeah I that was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► nominated the rook and I renominated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► dog stars and my things didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► nominated which made me sad because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► actually read some some things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► that were better than these nominees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► try to get the nominated and it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► oh well oh such as life when the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► are announced later this summer we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► find out what else we can use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► massive influence as a podcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► mobilize people to pay $65 next year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► nominate quality novels for the huger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► happy like perhaps our are incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► power and while they there they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► many nuts for the fancast word to me has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► all right it's not rate you ever suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► however we know that the Hugo's are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► the scientific determiner of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► podcast that's the parsec awards which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► as I said earlier we are nominated again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► and thank you to them and all the wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► wise people who they are not many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► technical although there may have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4918">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► some kind of mistake in their audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► drama department there may have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► that many possibly i'm gonna just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► I'm i forgot to update my PHP script to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► vote for us there sorry that's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► you alright so that's it we did it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► did it we read most or all of the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► novels Scott and I get the gold stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► 545 with who we read another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► those books Scott and hey whole trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► oh and the short story or not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► do you get that you get the purple brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► star for that one good job how lucky for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► yeah and I feel special well well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► glad at least that i will never have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► read a media and hopefully say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► don't why would you why would you jinx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► yourself by God and I've only one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► away from retire then she writes a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► series about podcasters who fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► Frankenstein yes man may I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► that sounds great so we did it we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► them I like doing this I like it less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► I don't think this is a very strong crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► when I enjoyed the i actually was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► read the first in that mary robinette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► kowal series about the Victorian series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► about the glamorous people so glamorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► glass should have also bright i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► third book in that series figuring i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► would need to write i would need to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► the second one and then it didn't get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► if the you go so I didn't need to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► bit that was a better series too so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► and the second book is a lot more action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa3Mlac/5020">TS</a>]
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