Roderick on the Line

00:00:01 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Merlin as gone well we're starting [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► off this podcast with me in motion [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► moving from this room to that room I'm [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► carrying my whole podcast studio with me [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► geez yeah it's very complicated here [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► today there's a complicated sonic [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► posture to the to the whole estate okay [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► are you gonna even a clueless on what [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► has made the posture and what in [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► particular made it complicated yeah yeah [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► so so I was I was working on my house [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► this summer and I did the thing where [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► you know where I had a thing that I [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► wanted to do it wasn't an easy fix [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► I wanted to fix the front porch which [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► had which had sustained quite a bit of [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► weather damage and and I felt like I was [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► equal to the task my carpentry was equal [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► to the task so I began to begin to work [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► on the on the porch and I got I got to [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► to a place where I needed to tear some [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► stuff apart and you know I get a little [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► zealous I get a little obsessed and I [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► continue to tear the thing apart because [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► I kept finding things that needed to be [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► remediated and then I tore the whole [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► porch part oh boy [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► and then I studied it for a couple of [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► weeks a lot of people will tell you [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► there's there's a lot to carpentry [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► everybody knows that you need good tools [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► you need to measure twice all that kind [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► of stuff mm-hmm [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► but sometimes you just need to look at [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► where your porch used to be that's a big [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► part of carpentry yeah it is and I had a [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► little bench there some look at where [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► ports used to be and and say why and I [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► say why not why not right that's right [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► that's a Bobby candy was talking about I [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► right before sirhan sirhan get you soon [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► so I have a little park bench there that [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► also needs repair that I was gonna get [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► to right after the porch and I would sit [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► on the broken park bench and survey the [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► damage that I'd done in progress [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► yeah and I had a bunch of different [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► stuff I bought some lumber at the [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► lumberyard that was on sale and I had [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► that stacked there Oh God and I spent a [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► couple of days working with the the chop [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► saw to get my mitered edge technique and [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► then I who I had a lot of stuff to do I [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► went out of town I kind of left the [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► porch in its current state oh I did I [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► mentioned that I had dug a trench around [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► the porch a moat so it wasn't really [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► possible from the mail delivery person [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► and the UPS people to really transit [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► through my yard without it being kind of [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► a conventionally not conventionally [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► approachable why'd you make a trench [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► Sean well because I wanted to do some [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► further remediation against you know the [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► the elements and also I have in mind to [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► build a path a walkway but I needed to [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► get down there and put some cement board [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► some hardy board as we call it down [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► beneath the lay the level of the you [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► know the the ground so that it wasn't I [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► don't like a porch that has just sort of [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► lattice on it [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I want a porch to feel solid like it's [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► really connected to the earth mmm [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► which means in my case digging a trench [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► and putting Hardy board down Hardy board [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► below the surface of the earth and then [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► fit back filling the earth and then [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► putting up the wood belly board and then [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► the mitered I learned so many times - oh [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► yeah so I surveyed you Hardy boards free [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► to the belly boards is that right I mean [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► there are some people that would be they [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► would make belly board on a hardy person [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► that fixes their porch in a weekend you [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► this is a more room a new ruminative [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► process for you right I'm not that kind [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► of guy [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► so anyway I'm studying this I started [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► coming back from my long trip I [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► continued [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► to study the porch and my friend Peter [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► happens along and Peter says I was [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► walking through the through a different [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► neighborhood a nice neighborhood let's [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► call it and there was a carpenter there [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► named psalm a Cambodian guy named Psalm [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► who was doing some great carpentry work [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► on this house that I passed by that [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► looked nice and so I got his card here [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► it is he's a professional carpenter this [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► is this is Peter you know passing by [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► being a pal and at one point I was like [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► ah you know I've been studying this [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► problem now for several weeks maybe I'll [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► give Psalm a call see what he has to say [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► so psalm comes out he says well it's [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► impossible to bid this job because [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► you've torn the house apart I can't know [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► how long this is gonna take to fix so [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► I'll just go at it and we'll work it out [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► well that's that's um that's troubling [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► well it is but at the same time I had a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► fairly good feeling about Psalm you know [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► he's he had a he had a kind of like sure [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► I'm a licensed and bonded carpenter [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► that's not a problem it's right there [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► it's right there on the side but I also [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► you know I I'm trying to make a living [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► well you know I'm taking what they're [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► giving cuz I'm working for a living and [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► I said I said yes sir Johnny paycheck so [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► I said tell you what some you use you do [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► what you see fit I'm gonna I'm gonna pop [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► in I'm not gonna make any suggestions [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► really as a as like a fellow carpenter [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► here I'm gonna act as the homeowner and [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► just nod well you tell me what you think [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► and then I'll set you loose and we'll [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► figure out how much it cost later did [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► you have a rough like with in like half [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► an order of magnitude you have an idea [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► about what this might cost in terms of [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► paying Psalm Gemini had about you wanted [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► what you wanted to cost you have an idea [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► about no way [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► do I want to be more than this number [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► I'm just asking if you have a range in [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► your head I have a range in my head I [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► have the range of what it would cost for [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► me to do it in terms of blood and [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► treasure right I do this all the time [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► with stuff rifle I feel like this makes [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► me alerted man it's because sometimes I [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► will say whether it's the money I would [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► like to receive for something or the [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► money I'm willing to pay for something [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► I'll frequently do something as [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► ridiculous as a little excel in my head [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► we're all say there's no conceivable way [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► this could be done properly for less [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► than five hundred dollars but it would [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► be very surprising to me if this cost [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► more than two thousand seven hundred [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► dollars for what happened or maybe [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► higher maybe higher but you have like [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► within you know an order or two of [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► magnitude you know so if somebody were [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► to say to you yeah sure I'll do it for [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► sixty thousand say I'm gonna get another [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► bid right well on the contractor who's [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► working on the house across the street [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► came over and looked at my project at [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► one point along the way and he said huh [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► this is one of those things that could [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► cost $300 or $30,000 and I was like yeah [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► now that's about the range and he was [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► like because now you've got the porch [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► torn apart boy we should just jack up [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► the whole house engine out you might as [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► well I took care of other things right [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► and I said you know what you think just [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► like me and he said I remember the first [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► time I dug out the basement of a house [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► and I said tell me more he said well I [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► was 24 and I went fuck right of course [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► and he said it was the dumbest thing I [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► ever did and I wrote it to this day but [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► on the other hand my family and I sit in [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► our basement our cool basement all the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► time and watch television nice and boy [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► you're really not making this easy but [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► in any case I realize that let's be [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► honest what you're describing there is [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► the fuel that's the fuel that drives the [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► rumination is that like well as long as [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► I'm doing this I wonder it's not even as [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► long in my opinion it's not even as [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► simple as as long as I'm doing this [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► clear thing which is tearing my portion [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► down to a certain degree I might as well [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► do that specific thing it's more like [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► there's a world of possibilities now [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► what what are the worlds that you might [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► have opened up that would have never [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► been available to you well you had an [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► intact [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► well that's exactly right like you know [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► what this house doesn't have a laundry [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► chute [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► oh shoot if you're not gonna moan coal [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► you could at least start with a laundry [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► chute [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► see why the heck wouldn't you I went I [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► went and toured a house on one of those [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► real estate tours where you where you go [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► with an agent you look at a house and it [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► had this laundry chute in the floor it [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► was a it was a house that it was built [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► in the early 50s in it architectural [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► style that I'm learning to appreciate [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► but at some point somebody realized the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► master bedroom was over the laundry room [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► I don't know whether that was the day [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► they built the house or some subsequent [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► time but they were like what this house [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► needs is a laundry chute so they just [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► cut a square hole in the floor of the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► closet that looked down into the [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► basement and so I was looking around the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► house and I looked down this hole and I [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► was like oh awesome a hole in the closet [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► floor that custard that goes downstairs [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► it's meant as a laundry chute but if you [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► widened it a little bit I bet it could [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► be a monk [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► if you want to get out of a place bad [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► enough a lot of things can be a monk [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► hole oh yes well and this could be like [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► a pretty nice monk hole right just you [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► know you're like hang on just a second I [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► need to go in the closet and then [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► where's your closet where'd you go well [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► especially it's like burglars pop in and [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► they're like we're taking over and I [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► would just be like all right listen [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► while you guys ransacked the house my [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► daughter and I are gonna hide trembling [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► in the closet I want to get out of your [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► way yeah and then right here buddy [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► so I don't want to do that in this house [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► I realized so ssam came by he said just [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► you know turn me loose here I'm not [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► gonna rip you off and I said you know [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► what I like a guy who tells me he's not [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► gonna rip me off because that's a [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► guarantee that he's not gonna rip me off [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► word is bond word is bond so sob gets to [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► work now some is telling me a thing I [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► already know which is look you can pay [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► $300 for this or $30,000 if you did it [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► John if you would do $80,000 worth of [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► work cuz you're out here already with a [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► nail file [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► like trimming little tiny microscopic [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► edges on things that no one else can see [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► I'm not going to do that says song I'm [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► going to let's be honest hack this back [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► together and I was like you know I'm at [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► the stage having studied this now for [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► weeks yeah that's exactly what I'm [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► looking for you hacked this back [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► together and then I'll come out and sit [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► with a nail file and like trim it up [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► handshake so this morning I wake up I [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► realize you know I'm doing I'm doing my [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► podcast with Merlin it's at our new [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► earlier time but I wake up to the sound [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► of a circular saw or chop saw going in [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► the yard but also to the sound of some [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► hammering on the other side of the house [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► and I think now wait a minute Psalm [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► works alone but also you can tell by the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► sound of the way the chop saw is being [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► used the person using it does not know [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► how to use a chop saw Oh No [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► and I'm thinking first of all some [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► serious concerns about that other side [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► of the house thing because is that like [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► a supporting beam type situation no idea [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► but I mean it's a chop saw it's not like [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► there it's not they don't ever they [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► don't have a like a the handsaw a [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► circular like a like a like a circular [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► saw that they're just out there chopping [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► the house they're they it's the sound of [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► a saw that is on a table mm-hmm that's [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► being used to chop pieces of wood but [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► the person using it cannot doesn't know [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► how and you can tell because the chop [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► saw it sounds like this that's how it [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► should sound and with these kinds of [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► things it's a little like being a [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► surgeon or you don't like want like [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► hesitation wounds when they're going you [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► know right you wants decisive I know [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► exactly what I'm doing some high level [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► Bob Vila shit where you know like I just [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► took off an eighth of an inch with the [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► chop saw Persis otherwise you're gonna [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► get splintering it all stall shit to [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► shop so and and so I can hear this [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► stop being used and it's going like this [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► is that sound I know somnus that can be [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► song know so I pop out of the bed and I [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► stumbled down the stairs I stumble into [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► the kitchen mm-hmm yawn you stretch I do [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► yeah the Nathan porch the hallowed [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► ground of where the porch used to be [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► how's it going didn't she take your [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► daughter to school today and I'm like [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► Sam already knows my schedule huh I said [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► in fact no her mother took her to school [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► what's going on and he said oh just [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► working just just luckily buck chucking [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► along and I said I was listening to the [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► sound of a chop saw and it sounded like [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► somebody and he said he stopped me right [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► there and he kind of leaned in and he [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► said I think I think that's the Thai [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► people that live behind you and he gave [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► me a look that only a Cambodian [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► carpenter could give but suggested that [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► Thai people don't know how to use a chop [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► saw oh he's throwing Cambodian shade he [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► is and I was like you know America is [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► going strong thing that built this [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► country slightly different places from [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► just slightly south and he said you said [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► yeah the Thai neighbors over there and [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► these are new neighbors by the way they [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► the the Thai family just moved in behind [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► us behind me rather meonsam porch mate [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► they like to have evening parties where [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► they sit around laughing on the back [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► porch which is not a thing the former [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► neighbors did so now there's a new sonic [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► signature in the evenings of [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► people having a lively porch party [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► behind me where formerly there was just [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► silence that was just not I love silence [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► so that has complicated things for sure [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► because you know I pop around your sites [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► sometimes I'm gonna sleep in this [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► bedroom sometimes I move to that bedroom [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► it's you know there's a lot going on [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► anyway so the chop saw is going in the [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► back and I'm like I can't record the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► podcast where I normally do because not [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► only what is it irritating just from [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► being a loud saw but it's also really [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► irritating because it sounds like [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► someone is is using a saw improperly [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► oh that's very distracting on a lot of [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► levels is so I say to Psalm listen I'm [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► doing a program upstairs a radio program [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► and he looks at me like this is this is [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► not the first crazy thing I've said to [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► him but it's in the family of crazy [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► things that I've said to him in our [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► short acquaintance he's like right a [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► radio program and I said basically a [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► radio program I'm doing upstairs so the [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► chop saw is very irritating so I'm gonna [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► kind of move to the front of the house [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► but that's where you're working so [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► anyway just that's just sort of a heads [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► up what I'm doing and he said well [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► before you go in I was thinking what [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► this house needs is to be painted and [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► I'm willing right now he goes into this [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► like I'm on right now to make you a [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► one-time deal on the whole project oh [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► boy because I'm about finishing up with [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► the porch today well and now and I'm [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► like wow but I'm standing on the porch I [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► can't see what he's done to the front of [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► the porch and I'm frankly I don't want [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► to know he's standing in your underpants [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► at this point I have put on pants out of [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► respect because I don't know what the [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► cultural yeah the more conversation of [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► the give like carpenter mores yeah there [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► are some people you could stand out on [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► the porch and your underwear it wouldn't [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► be a problem I know I realized that some [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► is a Cambodian fella but you know you [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► never say anything about the Thai royal [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► family you know that right I do know [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► that that's that's that's everybody [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► eventually learns that in you some [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► people learn the hard way there could be [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► a thing with Cambodian carpenters and [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► Underpants that you just not out of [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► cultural insensitivity but culturally uh [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► but farming say ignorance you just don't [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► know so no I think it's I think [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► travelers [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► a good choice but she didn't go and [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► cross the moat to go get a get a reckon [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► on how things were looking no he was in [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► the moat I didn't go into the moat with [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► him because I had a radio program to do [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► okay upstairs you know I learned that I [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► learned that don't talk about the Thai [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► family before before I did it so I [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► didn't make that problem but I did one [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► time sitting at a dinner table in Fez [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► make a comment about the King of Morocco [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► where which which resulted in me being [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► kicked under the table by three [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► different people oh my gosh and the [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► implication was not see the Tyrell [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► family don't you don't say anything [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► about because they are beloved the [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► Tyrells oh the Thai royal family the [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► Thai Royals not the type Alan the [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► Tyrells know their people have [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► complicated feelings about the Tyrells [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► yeah but the Thai Royals nice our [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► beloved and so you don't like I don't be [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► culturally insensitive but when you put [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► a giant giant giant portrait of somebody [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► in a extravagant outfit and it's a very [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► very very large outsized portrait as is [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► so often the case that many of the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► Tyrell restaurants it's it's I'm not [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► saying you're asking for it but all I [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► know is I said to my pal that I went to [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► school with who happened to be the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► nephew of the owner of the Thai [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► restaurant we went to I was like hey [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► what's the deal with no no don't don't [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► get my uncle mad like you want to get my [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► uncle mad no it's insane nothing about [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► the Tyrells no and the thing is if you [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► want to if you want to call the Tyrells [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► late at night and take an elevator up to [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► play a game of chess that's also [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► manageable okay but in this situation Oh [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► in the Moroccan situation it was not [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► that people were like oh our King is so [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► beloved don't say anything [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► it was kicks under the table indicating [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► we don't talk that way in public because [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► it's dangerous [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► and then everyone sort of smiled and [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► we're like the king is amazed [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► it was like oh and it was I did not [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► until that moment realized that there [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► was a element of Moroccan civic life [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► that was inhibited somewhat by suspicion [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► that there may be but you know okay so [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► for example my daughter is not a fan of [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► the current president and sometimes she [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► will say things that are untoward and we [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► kind of have a high-five about it but [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► there are certain kinds of things in [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► America you know to never say about the [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► commander-in-chief sure like one time I [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► was in line with the guys from military [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► school we were in line to see Gerald [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► Ford and I were checking us in and I'm [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► one of the guys made a joke by having a [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► bomb and not they did not think that was [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► funny oh maybe that's our Tyrells it's [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► like you don't make that kind of remark [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► just because like oh no that's you know [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► for the for what you get back on that [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► kind of remark the risks are high yes [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► yeah that's right you're not gonna want [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► me true especially Gerald Ford right now [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► yeah probably this is 1979 there was [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► discussion that there's guys running up [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► and down the aisle saying like nominated [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► Ford right will he make a run against [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► Ronald Reagan and I it was it was not a [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► very interesting event it was Gerald [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► Ford but you have to imagine as the guy [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► who pardoned Nixon you know his his [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► approval ratings went through the floor [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► when he did that yeah they did they did [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► that costume that cost him a second term [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► or something might say a first term [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► anyways yeah so I moved by my portable [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► podcast studio to the front of the house [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► to escape the chop saw okay but then as [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► I'm setting up I'm getting ready to go [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► I'm talking to you on the text I'm like [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► here we go but it's complicated out here [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► there's a very if I may you say there is [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► a very complicated sonic posture here at [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► the moment mm-hmm I'm hoping it will [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► resolve favorably that's right [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► immediately after typing that I hear the [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► portable transistor radio now I'm [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► talking about a transistor radio the [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► size of a pack of cigarettes kind of [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► like you might get you [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► in Phnom Penh in 1971 okay [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► battery-powered two knobs right the FM [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► tune tune in volume 2 volume right I [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► think even he wears a little hearing aid [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► earpieces right well you can or you can [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► just have it play out of its 5 cent [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► speaker you just explode it's like 6 [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► inch speaker whatever so that psalm [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► carries that on his belt okay okay [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► and it is playing an inscrutable mixture [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► of and I shouldn't have used the word [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► inscrutable it is playing no it is [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► playing a difficult to parse a good at [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► nasse of some kind of music but also [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► talking but it's very hard to make it [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► out because it's coming out of a speaker [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► but but it always it's all it's like his [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► theme music that plays whenever he came [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► to me and he is getting something out of [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► it he's carrying it around he's learned [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► anything from movies like Full Metal [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► Jacket you know that the music that you [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► have fine something can be very taking [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► Apocalypse Now that becomes very [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► memorable [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► it may mean fortunate you know that's [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► right Forrest Gump am I thinking of [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► Forrest Gump that was very popular movie [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► yeah for fortune Sons in a lot of movies [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► it's cowboy boots Creek Bop is in all [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► the commercials now there's at least two [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► commercials over watching a lot of CNN [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► because I'm always in the path of the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► hurricane and the yes Anthony Bourdain [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► has a show he can't believe it's already [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► the tenth season of this show [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► alright he's pretty Punk yeah and then [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► there's another one it might might be [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► for boner medicine I'm not sure but [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► blitzkrieg bop like walking on sunshine [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► a lot appears in a lot of medicine ads [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► and various things did you know that [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► walking on sunshine is the song that [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► kept till Tuesday's voices carry out of [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► the top spot on the charts until you say [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► and as a consequence a me man hates when [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► you reference [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► the song walking on sunshine that's so [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► interesting I love any man but I really [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► also hate when people mention that song [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► what's hilarious to me is that because [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► as you know I love to find a chink in [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► someone's armor well it's well it either [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► yes but no I know that's the first thing [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► you do you size somebody up you look [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► them up and down you go what's this [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► person super insecure about yeah right I [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► mean it's something you have control [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► over I think it's on you just superpower [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► it's what you have in power right [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► Cyclops to turn off his eyes you know [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► it's like sang sang to the girl with the [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► white stripe and her hair oh don't touch [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► anybody with your hands right stripey [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► all right it's like stress yeah stripy [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► yeah so conscious about that I think any [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► time it comes up in conversation I'm [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► always like Oh Amy you know diecut are [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► you gonna play walking on sunshine [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► so I'm sitting in the other room getting [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► ready to broadcast and I hear Psalms [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► radio but it turns out Psalm is on the [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► roof wait a minute [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► some is now standing outside my bedroom [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► window and he is talking to himself [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► which I also knew he did know but I can [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► never get close enough to him to know [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► what he's talking about because he stops [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► talking to himself whenever he sees me [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► or for people so talk to themselves do [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► not like it when you notice they talk to [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► themselves and they really hate it when [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► you ask them what they were saying this [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► experience I'm just telling you if [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► you're around somebody talks to [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► themselves and you ask him about it it's [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► it's like it's like knocking on the door [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► while somebody's pooping like that well [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► do you know what you're not allowed to [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► even act like this is happening listen [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► this is like getting kicked when you [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► talk about the king of Morocco's it's [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► not a thing I'm gonna do right I'm not [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► gonna walk up on somebody and be like [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► key turn your transistor radio down and [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► tell me what the hell you were talking [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► to yourself about right what why all my [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► roofs um no no I don't want to know that [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► you don't [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► now I so Psalm is right on the other [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► side of my window and the curtains are [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► drawn so he doesn't know that I'm in [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► there I just told him I was doing [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► Oh show he thinks that he thinks I'm in [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► some some radio studio somewhere okay [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► and I'm listening to him talk to himself [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► and he's talking to himself quite [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► audibly and as though talking to another [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► person and he's saying oh no this [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► doesn't look too bad well wait a minute [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► English yeah he talked himself in [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► English he talks to himself in English [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► some is Cambodian but he has lived in [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► America for a long time he is no he's [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► actual like first gen immigrant he said [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► to me one time so Sam's been around here [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► for a little bit I should have indicated [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► that Psalms been we've been interacting [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► quite a bit and it's because and one of [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the other things he does is he says see [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► you tomorrow and then at 9:00 in the [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► morning he texts me and says I'm not [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► coming today okay and weird but he and I [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► are very much alike in that and I just I [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► respect that enormously yeah all right [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► but I mean you know be careful if you [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► marry or hire someone who's too much [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► like yourself you know what I'm saying [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► Oh to this point the porch he does end [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► up coming okay and I'm like okay you're [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► here but well so we were out in the barn [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► one day and Sam said are those Vespas [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► but he pronounced the v like a W he said [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► are those West's and I said they are and [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► he said Wow when I was a kid you had to [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► be a rich rich guy to own one of those [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► and you have two of them and I said yeah [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► I mean they but neither one of them is [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► really in tip-top shape right now [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► and he said still you know maybe the [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► deal he had a real he had a real I'm [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► saying he does the porch she does the [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► pain he fixes the roof and maybe fixes [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► your West bus [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► oh I don't want them fixed by ssam [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► because I met a guy not very long ago so [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► my daughter had a play date with a [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► little girl and it was a situation that [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► was set up by a mom let's be honest a [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► busybody mom hmm at the elementary [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► school who said you know what we need we [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► need first graders to mentor [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► kindergarteners mm-hmm we do little of [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► that and I heard this and it wasn't [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► something that had happened when [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► my daughter was a kindergartner and I [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► said you know what we do need that why [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► didn't we have that one you know what [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► why didn't we have that before it was [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► like we always had this she's like [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► that's what I'm saying so I said for [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► everybody that's right good for the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► first grader is good for the parents [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► it's good for the school so I said as a [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► father I volunteered my daughter on on [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► her behalf I said she would love to set [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► up a playdate with a kindergartner and [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► because I knew that she would and so we [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► set up a playdate with this young lady [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► who was very self possessed young woman [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► who's about to begin [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► kindergarten and we went over to her [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► house and we played together with her [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► and watching these two little girls [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► interact because it turns out there are [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► only six months apart and at one point [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► Harper came over I'm sorry the little [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► girl came over to her mother and said [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► and her mom said cuz the mom and I are [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► chatting the mom said how's it going and [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► she said I think I'm I think I'm done [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► now I mean I've I've met this girl and [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► it's I feel like I'd feel like we've [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► completed this mission because she was [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► her mother you know for warned me that [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► she was shy in particular and her mom [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► said well honey this isn't we're not [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► ending this now you're gonna have to go [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► back in and play with John's little girl [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► some more and Harper was like okay and [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► turned around and kind of went and she [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► she came and did this because my little [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► girl was up in her room still playing [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► happily contentedly with her toys yeah [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► we're not done with the mentoring yet [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► yeah and then then later on my little [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► girl came down and said yeah okay I [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► think I'm ready to go and I said oh what [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► was your favorite part about being here [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► on this playdate and she said hmm her [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► toys and I was like I think we need to [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► go back and and do some more playing and [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► shit my and my low girl went okay and [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► then whatever they crossed whatever [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► little girl Rubicon they needed to cross [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► and they got on the other side and then [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► they were a war with Rome Rome being me [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► yeah and [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► then they were they could have played [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► together for 14 hours from that they [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► were they had become friends you know [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► whatever it happened they become friends [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► and now they were inseparable and [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► mission accomplished and I liked her [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► parents very much but as we're leaving [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► they opened the garage door to put the [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► little battery-powered Merce pink [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► Mercedes Benz that her grandparents had [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► bought for her back in the garage [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► Wow the garage door opens the garage is [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► full of Lambrettas there's pie that's a [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► different kind of WestBow that's a [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► different kind of West but there are [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► five and it's the kind of whisper that [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► if you're a whisper person for many [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► years and you decide that this is the [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► life you're gonna lead you graduate to [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► Lambretta so they're one of those we [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► always get the nicest one families well [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► I got the nicest pink Mercedes and they [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► got the nicest West bus which are [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► actually went brightest although they [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► say and they were both quick to say they [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► were both quick to apologize for the [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► pink Mercedes Benz by saying like the [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► grandparents bought this it isn't it's a [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► it's a gaudy thing it's not a thing we [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► ever would have bought and I said don't [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► worry don't worry no judgment here and [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► then garage full Lambrettas and I was [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► like Lambrettas the thing about [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► Lambrettas is if you see one you know [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► everything about this person now you [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► know everything [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► okay you know you know they like to [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► tinker you know they're meticulous these [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► are materially nicely maintained [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► Lambrettas you know they're meticulous [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► you know that they are all kinds of [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► things right I mean they're mod clearly [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► deeply mod but also Jessica's are you [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► more of a rocker I am right but I'm but [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► my vest but I'm one of these I'm a mud [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► duck all right I get in that given that [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► mud I'm a dirty rider right my bike is [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► intentionally rusty and fucked up and [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► you know dirty it's got a sticker on it [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► that says aviation gasoline only you [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► know I'm that guy I'm the one that's [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► like you know I don't know it's not like [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► I have a machine gun mounted to it but [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► it's the gear head yeah I'm not the one [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► that's a like that's out there restoring [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► some rare and so the the dad comes down [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► and he's a nice when we start talking [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► Lambrettas and he's like well you know [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► this one they didn't even have never [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► imported there's only 85 of them in the [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► world it's like some super sport mom [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► that's not our that's not our think it's [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► not our big thing but this is something [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► else and I was like these are gorgeous [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► he said yeah well here's the problem [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► like my grandmother my father-in-law or [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► my uncle in law or somebody like this [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► has this Porsche that he wants to give [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► us and I was like tell me more do you [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► really have my attention now sir mm-hmm [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► and he said it's this 1966 911s and I'm [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► like you know and I start to I'm [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► sweating now you know breaking ends and [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► he's like and the thing is I want to [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► keep it here because he doesn't want it [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► anymore you know and I'm just thinking [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► like this cars were so much money at [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► this car so credible I'm sure it's [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► meticulously maintained and he says I [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► want to keep it in the garage but I [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► don't know what to do with these [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► Lambrettas I don't want to just Park him [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► yeah I don't want to get a storage space [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► and I said you know I have a barn mm-hmm [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► you could in return for fixing up my [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► Vespas to this Lambretta standard you [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► could keep all five of these Lambrettas [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► in my barn and they would have I would [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► have such a cool barn at that point it [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► would be like a freakin Lambretta [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► showroom I see you're making room for [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► the 1966 911 asked by moving the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► Lambrettas to John's barn where they [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► close with the West bus that's right [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► it's a kind of motor play date a motor [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► play date precisely he can come and [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► tinker not only on his Lambrettas but [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► now tinker on because there are a lot of [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► people that like a project right so I [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► have a little friend who likes to come [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► visit me and she comes into my house and [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► immediately begins knowing all of my [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► belongings [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► which is which is wonderful because she [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► does not want me around for it so she [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► basically is like shoo go run and play [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► John I'm busy now she's like that like [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► that shrimp in Finding Nemo right she's [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► got a clean she can't stop cleaning well [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► but it's it's cleaning isn't her thing [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► it's organized right no when only [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► knowing Ivan I have another friend [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► you've met her [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► the lady motorcycle gang mistress [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► yes who said she wants to come spend a [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► week ere at my house just getting rid of [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► stuff she said I just want to come here [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► and just help you by getting rid of [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► stuff it's nice that for a man who has [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► so many projects that he could do so [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► many other people particularly women [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► also be a project right well women who [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► make me a project or my projects their [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► projects my little friend who Knowles [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► has know she goes around and I find [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► little places where she's an old things [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► that I didn't mean I wasn't even aware [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► of before she know like ants do or [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► something well she went across the top [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► of the piano and she put all of the [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► people's business cards that I've [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► received in the last two years like all [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► in little piles but hilariously weeks [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► after she left I realized that she had [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► moved a very very heavy vintage desk [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► from one part of the house to another [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► and taken a lightweight desk from that [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► part of the house and put it where the [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► heavy desk was and I swear to you I [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► don't think I could have moved that's a [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► high level knowing yeah she's a hundred [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► pound person and she's moving big big [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► pieces of furniture around and and doing [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► it in a context where there are big big [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► other things in the way huge other [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► things that she would have to navigate [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► carrying this desk that I'm not sure I [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► could have carried it was a magic trick [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► because I didn't even notice it she [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► didn't point it out she was gone for [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► days and days and I was walking through [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► the room and I was like wait a minute [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► how did that table get in here there [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► used to be a really heavy desk there [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► and then I like walked really slowly [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► through the house kind of peering around [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► the corner like is that desk over it is [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► how did that go how could she I have no [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► idea how could she have known to do it [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► first of all because it was the right [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► move [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► that's what's the amazing thing [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► shit-shit the method the means and the [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► opportunity somehow I was gone I was [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► gone from the house she shooed me out of [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► here because she was at the time like no [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► lling marbles mm-hmm you know matchbooks [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► and when I came back later all this [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► magic could happen I wasn't even aware [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► of it and she of course wouldn't have [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► pointed it out because it's not her [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► style [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► so Psalm is outside the window I'm about [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► I'm waiting for you to call me and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► Psalms up there going well I think I [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► could probably do that oh look at this [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► how am I gonna get that well you know [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► what I could do I could take that and [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► he's like actually poking on the window [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► with a little with a little screwdriver [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► yeah like three feet from me as I sit [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► with my headphones on prepared to [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► receive your phone call and I'm like the [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► sonic posture here is very complicated [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► I don't know how long song I don't know [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► why Psalms on the roof I don't know how [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► long he's going to be on the roof if I [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► move back into the other room [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► I hear the bad saw I don't know what I [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► have a lot of rooms in this house I [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► don't know what room to be in because [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► there is very complicated like Southeast [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► Asian construction techniques being [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► exhibited in every corner right and then [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► I heard some I heard his radio sort of [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► retreat into the distance [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► but I wasn't confident that he wasn't [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► going to start fixing my bedroom window [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► which is not a thing that we had agreed [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► it sounds like that's a lot of scope but [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► he's industrious and he is he's [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► recognizes in my house that there are a [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► lot of things that need to get done and [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► he's like you know after I've hacked [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► this porch back together one and I [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► hacked this window back together he's [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► like he's got a vision [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► I think he does I think his vision is [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► partly to stay employed mm-hmm and he [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► likes it out here I like having him here [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► we'll just have to see we'll have to see [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► next steps because I have to go down [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► into the trench and see exactly where [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► we're at I think he wants to be retained [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► on an ongoing basis well because our [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► current arrangement is this is an [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► impossible project to bid why don't I [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► just start working on and I'll get back [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► to you she might be over $300 at this [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► point so that lost the floor at this [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► point I'm guessing we're over 300 but [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► were under 3,000 oh good good so anyway [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► I moved when you called I was in the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► process of walking the entire podcast [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► studio through the hall back to the room [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► where the annoying saw was because it [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► sounds like what they did over there [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► what the Thai carpenters were doing is [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► cutting all the wood at once they were [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► making almond Minka interesting for a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► project or for practice it sounded like [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► that I don't know what they're building [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► mm-hmm but it sounded like they cut 40 [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► pieces of wood or whatever they were [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► cutting I don't know they might have [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► been you know what they might have been [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► cutting up encyclopedias I have no no [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► thing your mind turns over though right [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► I don't know what that could be that's a [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► very strange sound for the saw to make [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that that many times yeah you know are [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► there a lot of bases and cuts going on [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► what were they doing back there maybe [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► they have a 20-6 set of encyclopedias [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► old encyclopedias including the yearbook [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► they like to laugh we know that and [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► maybe it's just like what are we gonna [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► do with these old med libs or something [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► they love to laugh all this stuff is on [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► the internet now why why do we even have [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► this here let's cut them up with the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► song right okay but it seems like [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► they've cooled it out and now I'm in the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► backroom Psalm could be on the roof as [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► far as I know but and they the the tie [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► family could be like now burning the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► Encyclopedia I mean boy this is a lots [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► of crock do you feel like this is [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► something you need to check in on do you [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► want to do a check in with Psalm and [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► you know pause a minute no I feel like [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► for the length of this podcast I am [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► willing to just let things roll I'm [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► gonna leave them agents fall I'm gonna [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► let those chips fall if I come out in [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► the front and SAAM has built the rebuilt [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► the porch so that it looks like the bow [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► of a ship or if he has rebuilt the porch [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► so that was like pretty sharp look I [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► gotta tell you he's sharp look if he's [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► made it look like the monitor fighting [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► the Merrimack that would be an [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► interesting like any any kind of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► nautical porch would be a good look if [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► it look like a u-boat that would be nice [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► too Oh wouldn't that be a cool porch [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► with something with some you know [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► there's a couple things kind of mine for [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► some reason I'm thinking of that I don't [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► know it seems like an important metaphor [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► for me you know they're always painting [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► the Golden Gate Bridge they're never not [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► painting the Golden Gate Bridge it takes [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► one but not a person here because it's [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► more than one person but they're never [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► not painting the Golden Gate Bridge [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► there's always paint you paint you paint [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► then you repaint repaint so that's a [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► project that goes on and on you never [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► say oh we're done painting the Golden [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► Gate Bridge because that's just the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► thing we do all the time [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► and you think about that that's a [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► certain kind of to me very interesting [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► mindset about how one does one's work [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► and I'm wondering if that's the kind of [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► thing that Psalm is bringing to the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► situation does he have any idea how will [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► he know when he's done with house hmm [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► how will I know because there's uh yeah [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► exactly but if he is it in his bailiwick [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► as you say is it in his wheelhouse is it [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► in his estimation that he could say to [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► you John here's the big picture this is [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► why right now because you seem oddly and [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► curious about Tom's methods and means [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► and I'm wondering if that a certain [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► point you want to sit down maybe with [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► little little memo pad maybe kind of [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► write down some ideas about what the [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► scope of this project is the budget a [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► timeline kinds of things somebody like [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► me thinks about this is more of a human [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► experiment the thing is that if I were [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► in Psalms place and he were in mind and [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► we had established the more we should [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► offer that maybe you should come over to [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► his house well the thing is that I think [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► that he typically has he's able to get [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► up in the morning turn his transistor [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► radio on and go to work in a way that I [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► do not prefer so for now at least I feel [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► like we're in [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► right place in the world but if our [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► places were reversed and he had [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► exhibited the trust in me that I have [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► exhibited in him I think I would [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► absolutely be on his roof in a heartbeat [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► okay but because to see to rule it out [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► though you're not I mean now if it's me [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► cuz I'm wired real different from you I [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► would be thinking oh my god is this [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► gonna turn into a sudden invoice for [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► $27,000 oh and I go and then you go whoa [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► ssam this is a little more than I was [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► expecting is like what do you think I'm [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► here with my transistor radio most days [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► yeah what do you think this kind of [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► thing costs if you if you want your [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► house to look like part of a boat that [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► doesn't come cheap right you never [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► talked about a budget I assumed that [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► this guy was as they say the limit I [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► have a good idea well first of all as [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► the doctor who ended up sending me to [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► the psychiatrist once said that is an [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► excellent dependent clause you are [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► pretty suspicious of doctors but you [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► know what I didn't come to you oh sure [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► right she said that's exactly the kind [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► of thing a doctor would say yeah she [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► said you're sitting in here bagging on [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► doctors now but it's not like I came to [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► you for help and I was like to shade [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► doctor lady and she said so I'm gonna [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► send you to this psychiatrist you can go [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► or not and I was like you know what [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► thank goodness for New York doctors [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► because the Seattle doctor would have [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► just wrung their hands but you just said [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► you just did you talk to me like a New [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► York City policeman you were like you [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► can go do it or not I don't give a fuck [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► yeah I get the way mm-hmm so in this [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► situation [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► some could reasonably say I'm not the [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► one who tore apart your port and I could [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► say true don't play the porch card so I [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► don't have to so he doesn't have to say [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► that because I already know that he's [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► gonna say it right so he's on the roof [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► and if I go out and say some this is a [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► little bit of mission creep why are you [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► on the roof he's gonna say look I didn't [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► tear apart your porch no you can I'm not [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► I don't have any track record of [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► your house tearing shit apart do I I'm [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► the guy putting shit back together [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► aren't I and I'd be like yes [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► so he's like so if I'm on your roof [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► doing something it's probably putting [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► stuff back together not tearing it apart [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► oh it's got his version of whatever's in [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► the shows in the show right [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► except it's your house and the thing is [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► I know what needs fixed up there yeah if [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► he's poking on the window and saying oh [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► I think I could get this done I know [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► what that is I know what he's seen cuz [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► I've been on the right looking at it [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► I've been sitting on a broken park bench [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► on my own roof looking at it going oh [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► Jesus come to your house and slot the [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► rollin 808 out of your mouth that's [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► right I know because one of the things [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► that I liked about this house was that [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► it had not had its old windows replaced [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► by new vinyl windows but that means that [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► what's nice about it is that the glass [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► is all wavy oh yeah [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► because as you know glass is a liquid [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► uh-huh and it's still in motion and it [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► gets all wavy over the course that's [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► alive in a lot of ways it's alive that's [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► its life it's alive with the sound of [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► music but these windows are not [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► manufactured they're made they got a [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► bunch of glass out here they had a bunch [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► old-fashioned carpenters who knew how to [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► make things and they were just making [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► windows mm-hmm [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► they're one of the guys on the [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► construction site there was the guy who [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► was driving the team of horses there was [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► the guy who you know who had goggles on [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► that was running the steam-powered [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► spaceship mm-hmm and there was a glacier [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► is that where you have a glacier that's [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► what you have a glacier do yeah he was [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► out here making Windows and it isn't one [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► of those Henry Ford type situations [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► where you can just grab any any window [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► and stick it in any hole this is a [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► bespoke glacier window for a given hole [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► right and Psalm was walking around the [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► house and he was like oh right it's all [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► these one every single window is [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► different it's all custom windows built [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► by built by a glazier to fit the hole [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► that was cut by the carpenter who was [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► eyeballing it too because this was a [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► farmhouse and they were like nine guys [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► dressed like locomotive engineers but [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► the glazier in the window Lee a have to [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► work together they have to they have to [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► have they have to agree on the whole at [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► some point right they have to order they [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► have to shake hands and say here's how [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► big this whole is probably gonna be so [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► Psalms out there what he's looking at is [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► one of these windows and so he is he's [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► on the windows at this point he I think [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► that's what he was doing he was looking [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► at windows and he was like I'm gonna [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► have to rebuild this windows we're gonna [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► do this right no an upstairs window come [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► on Ruth okay and I'm listening [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► you know I'm listening to him through [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that window through that self same [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► window oh I see talk to himself as he's [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► like I think I could do that oh look at [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► this yeah I got probably well this would [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► only be and I'm like yes yes yes okay [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► okay okay good don't you know for a [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► moment doubt that this all needs to be [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► related he's seeing the house as I am [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► yes you're curious about where this is [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► going how how we got from a missing [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► porch and a trench to talking about [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► Windows yeah and I think in painting I [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► feel like once you if you're the surgeon [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► and you open up the body mm-hm and [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► you're in there to address a tumor [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► uh-huh and then you find a house key in [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► there are you gonna leave it in are you [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► gonna take it out you gonna wake the guy [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► up and make him sign something no yeah [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► deal with what you've got so you your [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► your house is the open body and you [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► don't even know if you found a key yet [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► because cuz then what if what if you [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► actually I don't know find a sandwich or [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► something like oh well sudden the keys [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► not as important the sandwich gonna go [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► bad if we don't get it out of here you [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► even know how deep into the project you [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► there's no way to know you there's no [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► way to know even if it's really begun [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► yet you might still be you might still [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► be in the stage where he's just deciding [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► what needs needs needs fix yeah this is [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► it when Hawkeye Pierce opens a guy up on [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► the operating table yeah to fix one [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► thing yes he gets in there and he [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► realizes there's shrapnel throughout the [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► body because they call it meatball [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► surgery he called he calls Houlihan over [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► he's like put a clamp on here he knows [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► he knows she's a great nurse this is the [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► thing about Margaret absolutely the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► difference with Frank burns and Hot Lips [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► get cut from whole cloth but there's [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► really a very different situation going [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► on there Hot Lips is very very very [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► talented she's an extremely talented [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► surgical nurse Frank burns too [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► a fucking hack yeah right yeah I and I'm [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► always I'm old ferret face the head [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► those two couldn't be more different and [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► how how it is that they that their love [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► of military pomp and circumstance would [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► bring them together any point in a storm [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► there's a police action and you know you [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► think love we find it much like a [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► sandwich or a key or part of a part of a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► tumor I guess I guess but so the so [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► there's talk of Windows can you give me [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► just without getting too specific apart [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► from giving me this man's name [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► what about how long as far as you can [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► tell as far as you can reckon how long [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► has he been working on something at your [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► house like did you first engage some [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► when did your eye so your buddy tells [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► you about song when did you first start [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► the engagement process with song the [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► thing about some is I have to assume [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► that that name is just like Kim in Korea [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► okay or you know like Pierre in France [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► right pretty much every guy you meet in [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► France is named Pierre and I imagine [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► that's the same in Cambodia with them [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► okay okay [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► cuz it's a name that rolls off the [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► tongue right I'm not even sure he's [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► never actually pronounced his name to me [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► I read it off of his business card and [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► I've been calling him some this whole [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► time it might be pronounced some yeah my [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► landlord called me then that wrong name [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► for like ten years I never corrected him [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► did he did he call him Elron caught no [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► and call me Charles hmm I have no reason [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► to understand why you but he always [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► called me Charles and he was consistent [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► about it which I appreciate it I never [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► corrected him but because I knew he [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► meant me cuz I was always Charles yeah [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► not Charlie Charles no you're Charles [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► you'll be Charles from now on huh you [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► know you do kind of look like a Charles [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► as a Winchester no I would think more [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► like a chart like Charles Nelson Reilly [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► [Laughter] [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► I don't know if you're deliberately [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► avoiding the question okay let's get [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► back to orders of magnitude song has [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► been in some form of engagement with you [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► and your homestead for a day a week a [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► month it feels like forever okay all [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► right so it's like you've always been in [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► the Gold Room right yeah but some has [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► actually been here three days oh my [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► goodness [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► of course well that makes that makes a [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► lot of sense okay Sunday's he's there [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► some days he's not because you know yeah [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► it's been three days over the course of [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► ten days well in that case he's making [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► tremendous project progress he is Keys [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► kicking ass and taking names yeah that's [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► right he must understand the whole scope [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► here's the thing let's get back to your [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► body on the table right yeah laid out [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► like a patient etherized on a table [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► except that's your house right TS [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► Eliot's talking about in this case what [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► are you gonna do you're just gonna sit [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► you show up you say hi I'm Robert [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► surgeon and I make surgeons surgeries [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► right I'm not gonna bother examining you [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► I'm just gonna get my favorite scalpel [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► and get started no they want to get the [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► full examination they run a battery of [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► tests they want to make sure if you got [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► blood and stuff you don't just dive [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► straight even though the surgery's the [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► fun part is Hawkeye will tell you they [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► caught meatball surgery in this case he [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► was to scope out the entire body to know [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► where to begin [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► right well here's your typical value [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► tensor appear you know I'm saying yeah [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► your typical guy shows up he looks at it [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► he goes oh boy oh yeah Charlie fix it [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► here he comes and then he throws out a [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► number mm-hmm now that number is as far [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► as I'm concerned that number is just [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► like a parenting plan between two [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► divorced people if you put together a [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► parenting plan which first kid if you [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► put together a parenting plan which [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► every lawyer and family counselor will [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► insist that you do yeah what that [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► parenting plan is is a road map to [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► failure yeah because it's trying to it's [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► trying to accommodate the worst possible [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► scenario but then once it's on paper and [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► in front of you and you both sign it [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► you're both going to work toward that [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► eventualities cuz it's in the parenting [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► plan right so it's like oh you know [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► before the parenting plan you go oh I'm [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► going to the movies can you watch the [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► baby tonight sure after the parenting [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► plan oh I'm going to the movies can you [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► watch the baby tonight well tonight's [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► not my night right that's what a [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► parenting plan is yeah unless you got [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► real bad problems but a guy a guy shows [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► up here he looks at my house he goes oh [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► well it's gonna cost $6,000 now might [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► cost less mm-hmm well I can't know until [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► I get in there and see [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► that's your typical guy now he is gonna [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► find a way to make that thing cost [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► $6,000 because if you go oh okay [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► I hope it costs less he's gonna know how [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► this guy can afford a $6,000 project so [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► once I get in there you bet I'm gonna [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► find six thousand dollars worth of work [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► so when Flom says i'm just gonna jump in [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► here I'm gonna see what it is I'm gonna [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► tell you what it is when I find it I was [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► like okay you know what that works for [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► me because you're not throwing out some [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► crazy thing now it turns out it's you've [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► worked here three days you know it's [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► gonna be six hundred dollars instead of [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► six thousand dollars okay and what so [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► you won't know until he's tapped on the [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► windows and talked to himself a little [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► bit that's right right but what Saum [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► didn't know what the Duke boys didn't [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► know was that Roscoe had already blown [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► out the bridge and I had already been [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► under the porch for several weeks yeah [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► and as part of tearing the porch apart [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► what I also did was I cut out all the [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► dry rot and I replaced the dry rot rot [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► with good wood now this is a thing when [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► you look at a torn apart porch which is [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► thinking to yourself as if you're some [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► or anybody is oh boy but there's a lot [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► of dry rot under there oh he has a look [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► under there he goes Oh looks like [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► somebody's been down here with some good [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► gathered so he gets down there he's like [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► oh there's good wood all around here [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► then you telling that you let him [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► discover that that's right because if he [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► comes out of there if he comes out of [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► that hole and he's like oh there's a [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► bunch of dry rot under here I know [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► there's not any dry rot in there i i i [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► remediated all the dry rot by cutting it [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► out and putting in good wood but I've [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► also given you given some a little bit [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► of a puzzle here right not a puzzle you [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► give him a little bit of a maze like [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► he's gonna have to go figure some things [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► out it's not gonna be easy assumptions [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► that John's just a little too over [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► ambitious cuz Oh guess what surprise no [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► dry rot right he's gonna say Oh Johnny [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► fix it here tourist porch apart wall and [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► then he's then he's gonna get underneath [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► it he's gonna go Oh Johnny fix it did [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► some structural work some support put [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► some nut he did some non-obvious good [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► wood [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► yeah he did the hearts that well not the [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► heart stuff but he did the he did the [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► stuff that makes the other stuff [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► possible [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► he can take a sunshine and make it and [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► and turn it into rain mm-hmm taking [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► nothing date and suddenly did did he [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► admire your moat at all did he see that [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► as a promising thing we're like oh you [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► know to put the hardy boys in here like [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► that John knows what he's doing put a [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► buckboard down here and a little hardy [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► boy up the side and now you got to wait [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► up to build your your Hall yeah one of [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the first things he said was did you dig [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► this look like what do you think [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► [Laughter] [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► yeah the trench used to go all the way [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► around the house and I've been filling [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► it with carpet come back and meet my [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► Thai friends who are running a chop saw [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► so he's really just he's work here [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► here's my thing and I don't get too far [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► ahead of this got obviously we're in [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► very early days of your relationship [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► with some but is there any chance this [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► could turn into something where your [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► house is Brian Wilson and he's dr. [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► Eugene Landy what I want what I want is [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► to live in a house where there's a psalm [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► walking around with the transistor radio [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► on the roof there is a like a small girl [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► that's knowing things on the on the [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► piano there's a motorcycle girl who's [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► throwing things away I would like [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► somebody with a clipboard and their hair [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► bun telling me what I have to do that [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► day this is this is the new the new [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► Roderick group right and I feel like if [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► I could and then I feel like there's a [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► rich guy out in [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► Barn fixing Lambrettas Oh Oh God this is [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► all coming together you're like Leonard [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► Bernstein oh yeah now I'm seeing it [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► you're the conductor right this is the [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► game mm-hmm all I'm trying to do you're [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► the poster composer and the conductor [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► you [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► need to tell people what kind of what to [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► make the robos out of you just need to [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► make a beautiful beautiful noise yeah [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► I'm get the Thai family working for you [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► at some point working with you at some [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► point not with the not with that song I [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► mean maybe you play something to learn [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► maybe there's a little bit of Lambretta [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► movement going on here you know what I'm [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► gonna say if you need if you need a [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► place to throw those encyclopedias I got [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► a big empty pool here and a girl who [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► will know them right no no come on I'm [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► gonna take the fence down you guys start [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► partying in my backyard [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► that's what I need to learn okay I need [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► to learn how to have fun yes yeah you [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► didn't know what you were there for [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► right oh great my job is just to find [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► what room in the house is quiet enough [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► to do my radio show show this is gonna [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► be fun to watch I can't wait to see how [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► this why don't see how it turns out cuz [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► this could really I think if you accept [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► it this is just a new ongoing process [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► and that the Roderick group is whoever's [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► there right now this is kind of like [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► your factory you like your Andy Warhol [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► factory people are gonna gonna come in [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► and out of the scene maybe The Velvet [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► Underground comes and play some tunes [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► there's somebody with body paint doing a [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► go-go dance and then you got Sam with [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► his radio and he's up here on the roof [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► and he's tapping on your windows you're [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► not sure why cuz it's not time to know [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► yet it's not time to know right well and [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► what's what's very interesting about so [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► I've only named just a few in the cast [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► of colorful characters that come around [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► here Peter actually the Peter that [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► introduced me to saw him Peter is [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► currently doing a little bit of work in [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► my basement the devil you say because [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► Peter came around Peter is a very old [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► friend he was the first friend I made [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► after I got sober when I got sober at [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► the at the shoot for that at the well he [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► doesn't get a chip okay but when I got [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► sober I was newly 26 years old and at [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► that point in time I did not understand [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► how you could be sober because everyone [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► I knew was a drunk and so who do you [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► hang out with right you hang out when [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► you hang out with normals hang out with [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► just people that are like standing [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► around [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► you've got to around all that time well [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► so Peter was this guy that I met because [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► I was sleeping in the I was sleeping in [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► the alcove at the top of the stairs of [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► this house [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► before you got a toothbrush this is via [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► this is a very early days very early I [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► didn't have I couldn't get a room [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► anywhere I didn't have I couldn't afford [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► before you lived in the van it is before [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► I lived in the van it is after I'd been [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► kicked out of everywhere I was trying to [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► get sober so I couldn't sleep on [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► people's couches you know that was I had [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► to have a little bit of dignity and I [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► and I met these people that lived in [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► this house because I knew this girl [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► Julie somehow because Julie knew this [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► guy Brent and Brent was a drunk but [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► Julie wasn't one and somehow Julie [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► invited me over to their house and it [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► was full of people this house was one of [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► those houses where six people lived and [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► none of them were drunks statistically [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► unlikely it was unlikely they were [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► artists and they were cooks there was a [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► drum kit in the basement there somebody [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► had painted a mural of a of a Senate are [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► on the wall in the living room is a [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► senator Oh centaur right beast the thing [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► is this might have been a Senate our [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► rather than a senator because the person [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► that painted it did not was an art [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► student who did not yet understand the [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► musculature of the human body [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► yeah and they gave you that the first [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► day no well they don't because this [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► Senate our or centaur as you say had two [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► biceps and I remember sitting in the [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► living room we going that's terrible I [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► mean the the head of the Centaur looks [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► correct okay but it has two biceps [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► there's no one else see this how can you [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► sit in this living room all day with [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► this painted on your wall this is got [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► one in the chamber that's why they call [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► them guns so anyway so I met Peter this [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► is yeah do something and this ended up [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► being how I met Laurel who became my [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► first sober girlfriend Oh because I [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► realized that these people did not drink [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► but still were kooky weird artists [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► people and in fact they were kookier [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► weirder and more arty than the drunks [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► thought it wasn't a call [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► because usually you see that in a cult [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► if people with that interesting and they [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► don't drink it's usually a cult well it [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► turns out that there's a whole group of [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► people out there in the world that are [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► just interesting and art also drunk and [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► it's not that they weren't fucked up [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► because they were all they weren't drunk [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► so peter has been around in my life ever [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► since Peter was the original bass player [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► of the long winters but he quit before [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► our first show well because he said that [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► our music sounded too it wasn't [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► authentic enough Peter has been a thorn [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► in my side let's be honest but Peter was [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► doing some work for my mom and then she [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► said why doesn't Peter come out and do [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► some work on your basement and I was [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► like yeah it's gonna be complicated for [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► me and Peter for me to be paying Peter [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► mm-hmm and I sent Peter in text and I [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► was like is this complicated for you to [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► be working on my house after everything [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► we've been through he was like at this [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► stage in my life I'm playing video poker [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► for a living [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► I want to just mm-hmm take some money so [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► I'll come work on your house so let's [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► just to have it not be complicated he [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► not my business but is it because Peter [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► is independently wealthy that he plays [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► video Parker or is he at this point is [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► he coordinating with some are they far [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► they have any kind of formal [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► relationship or the Nola's are these [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► people aware of each other not really [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► okay Peter right now lives on a [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► houseboat that is owned by his sister [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► but it's not one of those houseboats [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► that is like in Sex in the City [TS]

01:06:03 ◼   ► yeah it's a houseboat that is basically [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► like a as far as I know it's like a [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► toolshed [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► Popeye like it moves out faster on water [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► and is the thing that I'm aware of [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► yeah it's an older place it has one of [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► those crooked smokes dance that you [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► might see in an Appalachian home draws a [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► chimney that's right and his sister owns [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► it for some reason I don't know what his [TS]

01:06:35 ◼   ► sister has money she has a condo [TS]