Roderick on the Line

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00:00:20 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin man how's it [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► going John Roderick good does anybody [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► ever call you Merlin mang mang you know [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► I don't get that one too much yeah I was [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► telling my daughter that you're one of a [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► very small handful of people who still [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► call me Merle oh and she's heard that [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► name like twice ever [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► she thinks it's really weird Merle [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► because we've been to the comic shop and [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► talked to the guy at the comic shop the [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► that's not he doesn't he's not [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► technically the owner although he's kind [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► of the owner you know it's co-op but the [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► donors name is Christian and and so he's [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► a little bit younger than me but he came [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► up at a time where people go oh like a [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► sister Christian hmm [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► so as soon as he discovered that night [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► Ranger was coming out with a song called [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► sister he preemptively told people to [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► calm Chris oh and that got us talking [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► about the name thing he knew that he [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► knew that even then he knew to say I'd [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► better get it I'd better get ahead of [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► this yeah yeah I got in front of his [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► skis on that which I think it's kind of [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► smart don't tell me love me no I'm [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► saying yeah exactly and so who called [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you Merle you uh my lady friend [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► sometimes she's really refer to me by [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► name it doesn't come up very much it's [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► kind of a it's kind of like a familiar [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► familial familial familiar front Familia [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► cheese from you yeah Familia yeah it's a [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► little you know it's a it's a diminutive [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► it's like a I I knew a kid in elementary [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► school named Clark and his mother called [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► him Clarkie oh I think that's sweet [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► what is sweet but it's a but that's a [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► tough name to put a to put a little like [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► e on the end clunky it makes it extra [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► clicky collecti it is clarkey I there [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► was a girl in my high school named [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► sharky sharky sharky like ch ch a R kie [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► turkey that was her name her the gorilla [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► goonz named Sharkey [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► oh that's right Sharkey he just started [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► a new service where a touring band can [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► rent a van from him [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► that's a profitable business anyway [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► charkie well you remember Sharky's [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► machine starring Burt Reynolds yes I [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► sure do [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► Sharky's machine so there's more than [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► one person named Sharkey hmm I've never [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► met another person named Sharkey I still [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► know charkie turkey at the time in high [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► school you would never have thought that [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► charkie and I would know one another [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► thirty years later mm-hmm but she lives [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► in Seattle and she sometimes comes to [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► comes to my shows and she's very [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► supportive that's so nice I don't know [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► anybody anymore yeah well I barely know [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► you keep up with a lot of people I guess [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► I do you really do first great first day [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► of fourth grade 1976 back when school [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► started in September like a normal thing [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► started off for the days I started in my [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► new class his hair was my teacher [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► and his hair with an e said I'm gonna [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► read your name and if there's anything [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► you prefer to be called instead of that [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► let me know and I don't know why but [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► this is a couple years after my father [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► had passed away [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► I've been Merlin the whole time and for [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► some reason I said I would like to be [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► called Merle I kind of took it as a way [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► to honor my father and I thought it was [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► a cool name and that's what I went by [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► Rob Lee until into college that's what I [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► was known as really you know yeah now it [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► seems kind of weird yeah right so but if [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► you ran into some old old pal from the [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► neighborhood that I would call you Merle [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► probably I mean do you think about your [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► name very much I don't think about my [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► name that much I've seen where people [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► assume because they call you by your [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► name they think about it but like I [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► don't think about my name very much you [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► have a Merlin man is like one of the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► all-time greatest names of all time [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► that's a pretty good name a lot of [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► people assume it's a made-up name I mean [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► I guess yeah clear all names are made up [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► but no it's Mike it's my birth [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► certificate name yeah I mean it's really [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► it's really extraordinary and yeah John [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► John especially somebody my age I mean [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► they named every fourth [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► boy John so it doesn't really ring out [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► and plus of course I mean the proof is [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► the proof is in the fact that you and I [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► in our immediate social circle know like [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► 11 John's [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► right I mean there are a lot of job I [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► have two ongoing regular podcasts with [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► people named John mm-hmm I frequently [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► podcast with other people named John and [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► then I know I know some Jonathan's as [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► well yeah and then there the lar there's [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► the wider not even much wider circle of [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► John's and also I am for whatever reason [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► have always been very very nickname [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► resistant no self or others no no no no [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► I I would I always wanted a nickname I [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► thought a nickname was was great but you [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► know for a nickname I've had super good [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► I know my uncle called me the kid which [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► I thought was kind of a cool nickname it [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► was a little bit you know diminutive but [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► that's kind of the idea of a name like [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► the kid I like that okay I mean but the [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► thing is a lot of nicknames come from [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► stuff like wetting your pants you know [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► or one day you don't wear a jacket you [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► know everybody's just calling you [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► snotboogie yeah some tribal stuff yeah [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► tribal stuff in my family is is well I [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► mean the people in my family are late [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► breeders and late breeders all the way [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► back so you know my dad was 47 when I [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► was born but his dad was in his 40s when [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► he was born now that's weird and his [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► father before him and looking through [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► the records there are people in my [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► family in 1750 who had a child who had [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► one of my forebears in their 40s was it [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► sometimes the first child because that [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► that's the weird part [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► so did you get miracle babies but I [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► think at least in my mother's age and [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► really into our time it was considered [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► pretty weird to have no first kid in [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► your 30s [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► off on a first child and more unusual a [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► lot of the MA [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► were in their mid-30s too even late 30s [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► as far back as as the 18 whatever's [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► early 18 and so we have no idea how far [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► back that goes because it it fades into [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► the into the fog of time yeah but so [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► what that means is that my people are [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► less evolved if you go back 50 thousand [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► years and you can you have a group of [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► people that are breeding that much [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► you're saying over time that accumulates [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► there's fewer time for your forebears to [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► be alive in some ways yeah I am I am [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► fewer generations removed from her [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► humans than anyone else and in fact okay [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► I dated a girl whose mother was 22 when [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► she was born and her grandmother was 22 [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► when her mother was born and her [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► great-grandmother was 22 and we we just [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► sat and calculated it and even back just [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► to the 19th century we it was very easy [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► to see like she was already like two [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► generations ahead of me based on the [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► number of relatives it took to get back [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► to 1805 got it got it and so what that [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► means is that within my family there are [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► all these anachronisms all these strange [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► verbal tics and the weird preferences [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► like you having exposure to so much like [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► big band music or me having like way [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► more exposure to the comic style of the [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► 1930s then say the 60s mm-hmm you know [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► I'm saying like you know like you know [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► my dad was really into the Marx Brothers [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► and the Ritz brothers and Evan Costello [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► and all this kind of stuff so that stuff [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► was always in Jimmy Durante that stuff [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► was just always around like to the point [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► where when I was in a talent show when I [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► was like eight I was doing it Jimmy [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► Durante impersonation 75 that doesn't [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► make any sense [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I dressed as Groucho Marx for the for [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► Halloween in like 1980 Wow [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► a grouch was still a lot but yeah but [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► you know it's it's related all the way I [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► mean I hear it in a lot of the things a [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► lot of the affectations of my people I [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► may have even mentioned this to you [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► before but [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► mom refers to Napoleon as Bonaparte [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► derisively yeah [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► because if you trace her family back [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► like she her people were on the [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► receiving end of Bonaparte ISM in a way [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► that she and not and not just with she [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► doesn't just say it with contempt she [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► says it with AD admiring contempt like [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► except out General Sherman or something [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► yeah he's the bad guy but also like you [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► know he's well I mean yet enough that [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► you refer to him by his by his patch and [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► often enough that your son notices it as [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► kind of an odd bit yeah right or my [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► mom's complete contempt for Appalachian [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► people well which is because her what [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► was it her great-grandfather was a Civil [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► War veteran and and she knew him and you [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► know we're high winds let's be honest [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► we'd like to believe that we are at the [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► top of the Appalachian food West [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► Virginia give me a break [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► but my people call me my my older [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► relatives called me John John from the [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► time I was born [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► John John and they still call me John [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► John to this day which feels like an [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► which feels like a nickname from another [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► time yeah you know like nobody really [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► calls people John John John Hodgman gets [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► called John John I don't think he'd have [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► it no I don't think so my sister decided [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► at some I don't know if she decided her [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► maybe I decided but we started calling [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► her Sousou oh that's sweet yeah and it [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► becomes its own little you know it [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► becomes kind of a name as you Su Su Su [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► but no my friends have tried to nickname [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► me a thousand times [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► and it usually bounces off there was a [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► there was a little period in high school [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► where I was called a rad dog rat dog [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► just just to be clear these are [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► nicknames that were given to you by [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► others yeah it's my bone type situation [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► know or like when my dad when my dad [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► tried to write at some point in his life [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► tried to convince me that in college [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► he'd been cult spider I was like nobody [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► are [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► no no I was me I was nicknamed spider [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► uh-huh by my fraternity brothers I was [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► like that no one called you spider a [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► single time don't don't kid that's a [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► retcon you know yeah but there were some [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► there were some kids in my you know I [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► went partly in high school to a school [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► within a school mm-hmm that one over you [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► had to go down the hallway right yeah [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► and there were some kids in the school [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► within a school that I think later as a [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► group of people as a group of like five [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► friends all became born-again oh my but [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► but they were they were pretty hilarious [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► and they were a year ahead of me right [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► so they were juniors when I was a [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► sophomore and they were like funny dudes [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► and nerds funny nerds and one day one of [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► them called me rip-roarin rad dawg [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► radical rock and righteously rascal and [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► reefer and Roderick and somehow this [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► group of nerd dudes took this up and [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► could all say it and it was an honor [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that this group of five older funny like [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► school within a school nerds had this [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► long complicated nickname for man that [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► takes some effort yeah yeah well but it [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► was the type of it was the type of [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► people they were right I mean I they [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► also had a thing where at one point some [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► AV person was trying to get a filmstrip [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► to work or trying to get some movie to [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► work in a class they were in and all of [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► a sudden I seen somewhere in the middle [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► came screaming on with the volume full [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► up of some woman saying no mustard and [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► then you know they would each say no [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► mustard probably 32 times in a typical [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► school day even how these things work [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► it's early no no it's it's a thing and I [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► mean that's an age where you're more [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► intensely aware of memetic things and [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► you know I got bits today I got stuff [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► I'm still staying as saying today that [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► like I started saying in like junior [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► high high school it's very it's a very [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► me me time ya know mustard [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► haven't said it in a long time but I'm [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► sure that it a long time ago no mustard [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► and it would be a reaction to anything [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► that to anything really these things I [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► got tons of these in my house we have so [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► many of these just between the three of [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► us in our house that are not very [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► interesting to other people but like I [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► love those I mean it's it's there's [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► certain things where if one person says [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► something like a certain word or phrase [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► everybody else will automatically say [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► something sometimes in a funny voice [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► more like there will be like like a [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► certain cadence to how you say something [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► that makes everybody didn't say the [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► catchphrase I love that stuff mm-hmm [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► somehow rad dog rad dog red dog [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► percolated out of this rip-roarin rad [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► dog business and it got shortened to [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► that and then it went let's just say it [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► went viral and in my high school among [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► people who knew me not everybody called [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► me that obviously like my girlfriend [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► didn't but but they're aware of it yeah [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► everybody was aware of it and people did [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► call me that and I think there are still [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► people in the world who might say that [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► to me if it popped into their head I'm [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► not gonna say it I respect the mean in [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► this case that's an important mean but I [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► that doesn't suit you not that you're [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► not red nor a dog it just doesn't it's [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► not on-brand for John 2017 no it's some [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► it's the nickname of somebody that every [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► time he goes off a mogul he does a [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► backscratcher [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► hmm see I'm thinking like I I like the [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► anchorman I think that that's one that [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► could definitely it's good it's good but [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► but it feels like something that people [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► who were talking about me would say to [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► each other [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► nobody's gonna come up to me and say [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► like hello the anchorman have you seen [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► have you seen the anchorman today yeah [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► are like oh yeah he was talking to the [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► anchorman mm-hmm and I don't think it's [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► I don't think it's that sticky that it's [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► gonna turn into that most people I have [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► found and I bet this is true [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► well maybe not of you but most people [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► call me by my full name yes I have known [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► I have no I see I hate to say names [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► because then people gonna be able to [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► come up but I have friend in college his [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► name was Patricia frou and her [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► her name her Kenny was paddy fruit and [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► you never call her paddy even wouldn't [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► call her freak our paddy fruit cuz it [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► feels great to say paddy fruit paddy [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► fruit don't you don't look at petty [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► petty fruit and John Roderick is just [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► it's still it's a lot of syllables to to [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► get out but it's just it's what makes [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► sense to people that's got a nice rhythm [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► to it though yeah John Roderick and I [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► guess that somewhere somewhere recently [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► somebody oh oh yeah I've told you this [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► before my first my first email address [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► was hotrod at Capitol Hill dunno get [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► read that's a little cafe there yeah and [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► there are a lot of people that would [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► still call me hot rodder I've referred [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► to you as hot you know I want to put [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► that on the list I've called you hot rod [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► yeah hot rod huh I've called you that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► that's that's what you are in my when I [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► get a text from you that's the nickname [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► I've given you in the Apple contacts out [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► oh that's wonderful hot rod well they [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► I'm glad that survives yeah that's a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► good know that one kind of works that's [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► you guys that's got that's got aspects [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► to it to it you know what I mean yeah [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► yeah yeah it does it's it it it does [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► still work but it doesn't feel like [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► something I would want somebody younger [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► than me who doesn't know me to come up [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► to me on the street and call me that [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► yeah it's a little bit of a friend [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► nickname but I wouldn't want somebody to [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► come up and be like hi hey hot rod I [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► really loved your show I'd be like hmm [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► I'd give a little bit of a gasp face to [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► that whereas rad dog if somebody if you [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► know if like somebody came up and was [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► like a rad dog all the great shows I'd [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► be like okay alright I'd give them the [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► finger guns you're making that an [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► opening here saying if somebody sees you [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► at the mall they can say that to you is [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► that okay I mean I it's not like I'm [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► saying do it mmm-hmm I'm not [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► recommending it I'm just saying like [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► don't call me hot rod what I'm saying [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► don't call me all right [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► and and then joke joke Oh Joe [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► Joko turned all of us into Joe rose and [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► Joe hose and you know what I mean like [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► when because we're all sort of Joe and [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► John Scalzi is easy just call Joe skull [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► I don't think it goes that far [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► Jesse Joe Kojo Roe and Joe ho those [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► three but that is sounds kind of [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► scooby-doo a little bit it does and it's [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► all it's all Joe co-dependent I'm you [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► know I'm never gonna be Joe ro outside [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► of yes that although I did have a [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► girlfriend they call me Johnny rod [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► that's the kind of nickname that you got [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► to have it you got to have a cool car if [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► you're called Johnny rod [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► I just remembered one there was a local [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► chain of barbecue restaurants in Pasco [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► County and a guy in my English class [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► decided that I was fat and so he called [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► me fat boy BBQ that boy barbeque pepper [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► barbecue it he'd say the whole thing [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► that boy hey fat boy BBQ how's it going [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► John these names like John Watson he had [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► like a real plain name yeah John Watson [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► there was a kid named John Watson in [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► Anchorage but he was a member I think he [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► was either a member or the brother of [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► one of the guys in a punk band called [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► the exhumed and the exhumed were famous [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► in Anchorage for being like really [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► really bad dudes who know I mean they [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► would like find dead cats and nail him [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► to a cross real stuff yeah real stuff [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► and they were they were the you know [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► they were the real deal but they you [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► know they were just like some they were [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► just some kids they weren't they weren't [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► the they weren't like whatever the real [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► deal is but and I have no way of knowing [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► whether or not they nailed the dead cat [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► to a to a tree I just heard that sure [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► that's all you need [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► I mean that's right once you get the rap [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► yeah well that's crazy Dan sorry might [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► might you Bennifer my echo device [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► talking I did what did you what did your [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► Alexis aim well see today is a fraud day [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► John I hope that by the time that this [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► airs something will have been fixed but [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► there's a huge problem right now so [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► right now I'm leaving this in right now [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► the encryption that secures [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► Wi-Fi husband has been mostly hacked [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► kind of mostly so pretty much it's [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► unclear what the full extent of this is [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► but it's safe to assume right now that [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► anything you're doing over Wi-Fi can be [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► unencrypted so this is actually an [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► opportunity for you to rewrite the [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► encryption this episode of Roderick on [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► the line is brought to you by Mack [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► Weldon you can learn more about Mack [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Weldon right now by visiting you guessed [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► it Mack Weldon dot-com listen team this [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► is a new sponsor for us and I am legit [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► excited that they're here I'm gonna tell [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► you why first of all Roderick and I love [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► money let's just take that as red [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► money's a good thing but it also happens [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► that I am a huge fan of Mack Wheldon's [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► clothes and I buy an unconscionable [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► amount of their stuff using my very own [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► American money I had an order last week [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► and there's another one on the way today [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► real talk [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► I love this stuff you see Mack Weldon [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► makes stuff like shirts doing pants [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► hoodies socks and yes also there [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► internationally famous underwear [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► these pieces are each all just insanely [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► comfortable they're sturdy and they're [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► well made they fit great they look [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► handsome they feel amazing today I want [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► to talk to you about Mack Weldon shirts [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► this is a special interest of mine [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► because personally they make my favorite [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► shirts it is what I wear all the time [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► first off they make something I adore [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► called the Pima long sleeve t-shirt mmm [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► magnifique [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► I'm making a chef mouth right there you [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► can see that I guess well I'm not [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► comfortable admitting how many of these [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► I actually own I will tell you that they [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► are literally my daily go-to top layer [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► unless the occasion demands otherwise [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► you will find me wearing one of these [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► boys every day they are just the best [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► also I know this one sounds weird but I [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► love their plain white t-shirts I know [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► it's an underrated garment they are [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► hearty well tailor they have a nice long [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► tail keeps your shirt tucked in like [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► you're a big boy I switch to these last [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► year full time all the way in I never [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► looked back they're the best I threw [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► away all my other t-shirts Mac Weldon [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► shirts all at wear then of course I have [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► to mention they have their magical [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► Underpants Mac Walton has a line of [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► silver underwear and shirts that are [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► naturally antimicrobial and that means [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► they help eliminate odor they want you [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► to be comfortable so listen if you don't [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► first pair you keep it and they will [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► still refund you no questions asked what [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► a deal Mack Weldon you guys thank you so [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► listen please you go to head over Mack [TS]

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00:22:50 ◼   ► what a great new sponsor [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► sincerely our thanks to Mack Weldon for [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► supporting Roderick on the line and all [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► the great shows livin large yeah no I [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► know I'm in full lockdown mode I I [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► turned off Wi-Fi on everything that I [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► have I've turned off my Wi-Fi routers [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► I've turned Wi-Fi off on my devices and [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► that was my Amazon echo telling me that [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► it can't find the internet I got my [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► security camera bleeping red right now [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► my lights are off so I can't say Alexa [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► yeah what is the average rainfall in the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► Amazon basin hmm what does she say when [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► you ask her that she's gonna have some [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► witty retort that's one of her really [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► retort question it's already retort but [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► sometimes you know she just it's you [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► gotta say it a certain way but you know [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► you can say stuff like how much does the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► president way and don't usually get it [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► so yeah that's a that's a huge deal this [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► is a big deal I hope that gets happen [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► what's the Russians I don't know I maybe [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► got hacked [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► supposedly yeah this is this is an [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► exploitation that's out there in the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► wild it has to do with the four-way [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► handshake it's the four-way handshake is [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► the problem Holly if anything weird [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► happens that just write it down to that [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► so is this a situation where like a la [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► Matt how're your garage doors going up [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► and down and your it could be a Vladimir [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► Putin opening your garage door you know [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► I'm saying you imagine the insanity if [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► the Russians opened every garage door in [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► the country at once that would wake some [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► people up yeah dogs and cats sleeping [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► together yeah sure no one change the [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► body politic if you didn't control your [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► own garage door anymore he who controls [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► the garage door controls the destiny you [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► can have somebody come in steal your [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► cordless drill you know I'm saying he is [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► your density mm-hmm I want to ask you [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► something and you you can feel free to [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► ignore this you can feel free to tell me [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► to cut this out but I wanted to share an [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► anecdote about something that happened [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► yesterday because I feel like it's [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► something we need to explore can I share [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► what happened yesterday yeah I know I'm [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► dying to hear it well at some point [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► better record this it's Monday October [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► 16th Wi-Fi is not working I think it was [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► on probably I guess I could go look back [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► I think probably on Saturday night maybe [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► you texted me and oh yeah here we go [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► here we go okay so yeah so on the 14th [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► which would be Saturday I was telling [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► you some offline administrative things [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► you said that's exciting he said and [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► then he said yes yesterday at 9:00 a.m. [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► being Sunday you said on at 10:00 and I [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► said you bet and then a certain time [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► later I believe around 1001 he say [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► except today is Sunday yeah and then I [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► felt bad cuz I thought oh my god like I [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► would net I would personally I'm not [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► dying bragging but I would never if [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► there are any two days I would never [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► confuse it's sad it's Sunday and Monday [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► but somehow you had an alarm set you you [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► were planned and ready to go and you [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► thought sunday was Monday Saturday night [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► at 11 o'clock at night or whatever I [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► leaned over and grabbed my phone and was [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► like better set my alarm for for the [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► show tomorrow we should tell our [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► listeners we're trying an experiment [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► inside the experiment which is going [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► back to our tanning and recording time [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► going back to 10 because 9 wasn't [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► working for now yeah that's that's a [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► wrinkle [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► mm-hm and what happens with me and this [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► show is that I set my alarm for 9:45 [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► because I know that I have 15 minutes [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► after I wake up to microwave one cup of [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► coffee and open my computer yeah and [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► that's all I need all I need is 15 [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► minutes to like come come awake and [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► sometimes I don't come all the way awake [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► you may have noticed until you start [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► talking to me and then I'm like [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► what and then that then I am there it's [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► like yeah you know it's its ambitious 15 [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► minutes is ambitious but you some of the [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► time have been here at 10 a.m. yeah [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► absolutely the case and I like to fly a [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► little close to the Sun just enough that [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► the wax in my wings softens without [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► melting you can soften wax without it [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► melting it's a lot like you jumping on [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► the plane at the last minute jumping off [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the Muni at the last minute that's right [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► if you're always Telegraph your [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► movements a couple of days ago I flew to [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► San Francisco for 24 hours and as I was [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► leaving for the airport I said I'm only [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► gonna be in San Francisco for 24 hours [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► what should I pack and I thought about [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► it and I was like I'm going to I didn't [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► have a hotel arranged yet oh my god I [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► talked about close to the Sun she's I [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► said I'll get a hotel on my phone while [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► I'm at the airport and then I was [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► sitting there and I'm thinking like what [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► do I bring I'm gonna be there for 24 [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► hours and then I said oh I know the [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► answer nothing I'll bring nothing so I [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► put my coat on and I walked out the door [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► and I went to the airport and at the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► airport I thought I did something I [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► never do which is download an app which [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► was some kind of app that was that said [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► last minute hotels because all of the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► hotels that are like a hotel tonight a [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► hotel tonight type of thing most of the [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► hotels that I normally stayed at stay at [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► in San Francisco when I went to their [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► websites and said what's the chance of [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► me getting out tell rim tonight that's [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► an open table type situation where it's [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► like ma'am sorry nothing well well well [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► the answer was that chances are great [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► $600 and I'm like uh no $600 is the same [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► as no hotel but I went on this thing [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► which was something like hotels tonight [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► and I got a hotel in what they describe [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► this the great thing about San Francisco [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► they describe it as Union Square [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► [Laughter] [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► really good bargain she's like it's [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► great it's likely the Ambassador Hotel [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► and you square with a Commodore or [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► something like never get anything with [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► the with like a military title like [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► never get anything it sounds fancy that [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► says Union Square yeah do not get the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► one neighborhood in America that has not [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► changed one iota since 1972 like you [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► still go down in the Tenderloin and it [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► looks like an arc rum drawings yeah of [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► people just like I mean that's bad it's [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► just it's not funny and it has gotten [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► super schmooper bad it's not shocking to [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► people who come to town now in the last [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► - even in the last two years like what [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► what is happening on sixth Street is [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► like unbelievable [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► it's extraordinary it really is like [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► it's not like it's not we're saying oh [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► it's really sad there's lots of people [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► sitting on the street like I can't I [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► don't even want to tell you on a family [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► podcast what kind of stuff is the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► extreme hieronymus bosch s human misery [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► that is happening at a scale in order of [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► magnitude greater than you think right [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► now where there are literally people [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► shitting publicly like up and down the [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► street shooting up screaming and crying [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► it is really it's very Bosh speaking of [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► someone who just stayed there [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► attack what in the u n-- Square area in [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► the Union Square area what's incredible [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► is that right there on market are the [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► headquarters of medium and uber and with [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► Twitter and a dozen of the darkness yeah [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► a dozen other tech companies the hotel [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► the Bisou that I stayed in has in the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► downstairs a craft cocktail bar where [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► the bartender had a handlebar mustache [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► and was playing Tupac but when I went up [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► to the to the desk to check-in [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► the receptionist said would you like it [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► quiet room or a normal room that's [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► that's an unusual level of candor it was [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► an ice you know what I said would you [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► say I'll take a normal room oh she [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► didn't see that coming but on a high [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► floor and so she put me on the top floor [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► where I was able to hear in the course [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► of the night at least one person who [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► screamed almost continuously for two [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► hours you could tell it was the same [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► person for two hours and then at some [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► point around 4:00 in the morning six [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► shots fired into the air or what I [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► presumed to be the air and this is like [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► two blocks from market where the next [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► morning when I woke up it was just a [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► swarm of like techy wiki's on their way [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► to work II work II on their little [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► hoverboards and and and it's just like [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► how how in the world does this work [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► importantly these are people who are one [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► might say commuting in they don't they [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► don't live in the Union Square area [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► no no they zoom in they zoom in on them [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► but but so I arrived and I and this is [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► you know there are big fires outside of [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► San Francisco the whole city is shrouded [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► in the like it looks like Tatooine [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► I mean it's everything's orange it's [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► super weird shrouded in the like in the [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► dashed hopes and dreams of a hundred [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► thousand or hundreds of thousands of [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► people like it's just the ashes of [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► Sonoma covering everything and the air [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► it smells like a campfire and it's [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► really weird so that's a very strange [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► time for you to be here it was strange [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► and you know Seattle had a big fires [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► this year too up in British Columbia and [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► that smoke kind of came down over [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► Seattle but those British Columbia fires [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► were happening mostly in like untouched [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► forest so our forest fires were like it [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► just smelled like a burning forest but [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► yeah your fires were like burning towns [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► which was some heavy heavy duty stuff [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► but this is all by way of describing the [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► fact that I went to my show and then I [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► woke up in the morning and I did a [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► podcast with a friend and I met another [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► one of our mutual friends at his man [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► cave for a little while nice and then I [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► got and I was doing when this was all [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► walking around and then I got on a train [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► and I went to the airport and at no [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► point did I have any kind of of there [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► was nothing even in my hands it was just [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► I was wearing a jacket [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► did you bring like a backpack or [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► something I brought zero you you brought [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► shut your mouth you can't go you are a [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► brave man you got on a plane and flew to [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► another state with the clothes on your [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► yeah with with not even a not even like [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► an overcoat but with a blazer you're [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► Batman [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► and it was so when it was time to get on [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► the plane it was like I I'm back to last [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► on the plane because what the fuck do I [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► care you can't do anything to you I mean [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► like you have you know nothing got to [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► tie you I don't need any I don't need to [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► put anything on I'm gonna go over to [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► borrow and get a lasagna just cuz I [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► can't yeah I'm gonna sit here right I'm [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► gonna sit here and just stare at the [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► gate agent while they call my name three [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► times cuz I mean those Hanyu still like [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► it didn't nothing mattered I was a truly [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► free yeah I was a free man just like you [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► know I think I probably told you about [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► my first trip to Europe I got robbed [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► about halfway through and I had a [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► backpack that had everything you go yes [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► I remember this amp and and it was [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► another situation where I was I spent a [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► week just in deep mourning over all my [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► lost socks and you know I lost a carton [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► of cigarettes and my Walkman and all [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► this stuff and then that period of [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► mourning ended suddenly when I realized [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► oh shit I don't have anything like I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► don't have anything yeah and it was [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► really liberating right I traveled in [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► Europe with nothing for I don't know [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► three months I didn't have a thing [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► I I just washed my clothes in the sink I [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► mean I'm sure I smell terrible I'm sure [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► I look terrible [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► yeah but you know what you're a fucking [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► student like compared to the French [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► hippies that we're staying in the same [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► youth hostel as I was I looked pretty [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► pretty group [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► speaking of groom uh-huh listen listen [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► I'm processing this because I'm thinking [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► about as I'm sure I've mentioned to you [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► I did this thing when I packed where I [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► and Idol did this is much anymore but I [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► used to pack as though I were not only a [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► different person than I am [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► but I were that I was perhaps two to six [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► different people than Who I am [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► well I would I would like right now I [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► wear I don't see I wear the same clothes [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► every day I wear the same type of [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► clothes pretty much every day including [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► our sponsor for this episode thank you [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► Mike Walden I frequently will just all [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► wear jeans and a t-shirt and a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► long-sleeve shirt over that and then [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► like a hoodie or something and somehow [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► when I'm preparing to go anywhere I to [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► quote some thought I turned it into [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► Diana Ross and I'm bringing evening [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► gowns for events that I have not been [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► invited to and I'm bringing changes of [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► socks that have absolutely no [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► association with how often I would [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► actually change my socks I've never [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► needed in the modern era to change my [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► socks more than once in a day right and [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► it's oh you're going on a four-day trip [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► and you take 11 pairs exactly right well [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► the only thing I fell short on when I go [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► to a warm climate because I'm so used to [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► not being in a warm climate I sometimes [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► forget that I need more bottom layer [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► shirts than I think that's the only time [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► I have less than I need but I weigh [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► overcompensate so the reason I'm saying [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► all of this is you're describing a dream [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► to me like what you did it was very very [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► brave and I'm very impressed [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► well it's phenomenal and also I think [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► one of the things that helped was I knew [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► that the two people I was going to see [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► on Friday were not people I was gonna [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► see on Thursday and unless unless [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► somebody drove past me on on Castro [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► after seeing me Thursday night they [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► weren't gonna see me Friday [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► the Red Dog wear the same clothes there [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► is and so not only did I wear one outfit [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► but I didn't even wear like a blue shirt [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► and a blue blazer I wore a bright orange [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► blazer with a like an orange plaid tie [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► so basically I was saying to the world [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► like if there's even a if there's even a [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► delay of my flight mm-hmm [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► I'm the guy in the two day old orange [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► blazer but as it as it was like I rolled [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► into my house more or less the same time [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► that I left it the following day and I [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► took my coat off and put it on a hanger [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► like fucking Mister Rogers [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► yeah yeah and I was like doo doo doo [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► what's next and it was pretty good [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► pretty that's really impressive I know I [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► know it felt it felt it felt like in the [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► next oh and I got the chance I was [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► sitting next to somebody on the plane [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► who was kind of unfriendly to the [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► stewardess and it's fairly Curt with me [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► and was actually transcribing things off [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► of his phone onto a notepad like we're [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► looking at his phone and then writing it [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► down on a notepad I was like interesting [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► and he's wearing a pole a polo shirt he [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► just sort of looks like a he's one of [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► those people that probably is my age but [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► when I look at him I'm like what's up [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► dad [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► I know I know I know the type yeah and [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► so and and like in the the the flight [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► attendant asks him what he wants to [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► drink and his reaction is what instead [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► of like how many things is she gonna say [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► to you right like be that guy yeah you [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► one nothing when you do that what do you [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► mean what anyway so he keeps working and [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► then I look at him again and I and he [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► said one other sort of Curt one word [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► replied to the stewardess and he hadn't [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► spoken to me in the entire first half of [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► the flight yeah except to kind of be [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► like what when I asked him some question [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► I looked over at him and I was like [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► minute and I said are you Dutch [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► he's a Dutch and he turned and he said [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► what's no he turned excited eyes wide [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► open he was like yes how can you tell [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► how can I tell [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► wow you're beautiful and then he [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► immediately could not stop talking and [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► talk to me for the entire rest of the [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► flight we talked about the political [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► situation in every single country in [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► Europe we talked about brexit we talked [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► about and his opinions of brexit from [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► top to bottom we talked about Trump from [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► top to toe just opened right up because [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► less I write nice I recognized him as [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► Dutch and it was it's just a little [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► something in his accent and then it all [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► came together I was like wow no wait a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► minute it's all fits [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► of course he's done and he lives on the [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► coast he lives on in the coast in a town [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that I've been to so we had all this [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► stuff in common [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► it's Dutch the place where you were in [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► the sand that's in the place where I was [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► in the sand yeah I'm pret in fact I was [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► a gravy boat of suffering yeah and I was [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► probably three miles from his house and [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► I'll be hornswoggled what are the [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► choices I didn't bring that story up to [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► him because it's always weird when [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► somebody especially from Europe is like [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► oh yeah I live outside of Castle and I'm [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► like I've been to your town and they go [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► really I'm like yeah well you know I was [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► passing through I leave it at that [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► because because if you're just meeting [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► somebody and you say yeah I walked [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► through your town on the way to Istanbul [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► it's sort of like you set up you pull up [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► next to somebody at a bar and you know [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► how you're going and the bartender says [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► you know what would you like and you [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► order some really really complicated [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► uncool drink and then you turn to the [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► person next year and like so woody [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► what's going on it's just like no you're [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► not gonna he turned to the guy next to [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► you he's got a boilermaker when you give [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► you give one of those pregnant kind of [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► remarks that is basically begging people [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► to ask you questions about what he just [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► said it reminds me the second time I [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► sold a sword and Danai [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► oh really okay yeah yeah I just swords [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► and Vietnam what No [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► so anyway I usually say to people oh [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► yeah I was just passing through you know [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► I was a tourist and I was on my way [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► somewhere else they're like no anyway I [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► don't work that's that's your version of [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► like I'm a ceramicist right we'll just [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► lay this down this is fine if you want [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► ask more questions you can ask more [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► questions but I'm you are not on the [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► hook to ask me about sleeping on a beach [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► yeah that's right and we are not gonna [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► go there normally because most people do [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► not follow up right most people are just [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► like oh right well anyway more about me [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► and I was there I enjoyed this guy and [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► he was very he was very very Dutch he [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► was an executive at a at a company that [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► you would recognize the name on [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► international multinational company [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► Philips something like that although [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► headquartered not in the Netherlands [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► like rare's it's a the rarest occasion [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► where a multinational company with a [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► Dutch executive Gordon chakra I think of [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► Dutch companies I know well but this was [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► an American company they just had a see [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► he took him he turned it okay yeah he [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► took be turned it right it's not LG or [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► whatever it's like another thing and and [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► he had been trapped in San Francisco by [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► the fires because 80 flights got [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► canceled right and he was only flying to [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► Seattle with me in order to get on [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► another flight to Schiphol Airport in [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► Amsterdam the following day so he wasn't [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► coming he was like oh yeah Seattle's a [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► nice city but I'm I'm just I'm laying [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► over baby mm-hmm [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► anyway it was very it was very enjoyable [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► to interact with him but I did have the [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► one two swords in Danang moments where [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► because I had of course developed a good [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► rapport with the flight attendant [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► because when she said what would you [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► like to drink sir I said well I better [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► not have another ginger ale because I've [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► already had two and that's my limit or [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► whatever money whatever kind of dad [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► thing my dad would say that I say what [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► did I just eat Jack you late without [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► even hearing myself [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► to try I don't even remember what it was [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► just fall out of you it was something [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► like that it was like what a string I [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► don't know what would you recommend [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► what's the house special here crazy can [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► I give you an extra bag of peanut but [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► she said something to me at one point [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► and I said oh well you know I travel [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► without luggage so it won't be a problem [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► for me oh you you're like yeah I don't [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► know a TV guy yeah but I but the rare [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► occasion where you can be the I don't [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► own luggage guy and I even as I said it [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► I realized oh this is two swords and [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► done hmm but and they both looked at me [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► he turned and looked at me and she [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► looked at me but but again neither one [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► followed up on that and I didn't press [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► the issue I just sort of looked away and [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► was like wow wow I just I just I just [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► dropped that little bit of science on [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► them but then when it was time to get up [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► and get off the plane I stood up and it [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► was I mean I didn't make it gesture like [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► you know like wiping my hands off see [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► you later [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► but I did you know I just stood up and [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► walked off the plane what are you gonna [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► do nothing holding you down no I could [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► go down me if they plane had crashed I [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► could have gone right out the emergency [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► exit then right on the raft you what you [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► wouldn't hesitate because your windows [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► laptop is in the overhead no nothing [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► nothing a phone charger I had a phone [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► charger in the pocket of my blazer okay [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► I did do that I did have one thing did [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► you get a toothbrush at the hotel Bijou [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► the hotel because you provided a [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► toothbrush nice some other things but [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► you know toothbrush like a cheap one [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► wrapped in a piece of plastic that's all [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► you need is brush you know the hotel [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► please you when I walked in the door [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► there was a section of the carpet [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► that had been so I don't know I don't [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► even know what it was probably a blood [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► stain but what they done was they just [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► cut it out they just cut a square out of [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► the carpet and put another piece of [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► carpet in there [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► but that but the new carpet was a darker [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► shade than the old carpet because the [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► old carpet was either it impossible to [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► match or had faded so much maybe they [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► stopped making it they stopped making [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► that ma'am that's right and I walked in [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► and I looked at the room and it was [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► clean and it was nice and the bed look [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► nice oh you're talking about you got us [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► you had a fresh square carpeting in your [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► in your hotel room on the floor of my [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► hotel ooh [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► well but I think it was Lobby or [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► something so it's not a where spot it's [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► like it's like somebody yeah she's like [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► down here it's like somebody cleaned a [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► salmon in there I looked at the bed I [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► checked the bed it was it was nice it [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► was clean it was newish I called down to [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the front desk and said I need some non [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► feather pillows and they scrambled they [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► said they didn't have any but I have the [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► feeling that the the service was good [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► enough there that I that some but [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► manager might have gone over to two [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► coals and bought two because eventually [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► someone came upstairs with two fresh [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► foam pillows and I and I realized in the [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► last several years most of the hotel [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► rooms I stay and have been paid for by [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► someone else who's like come to the [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► thing and here's your hotel and so those [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► hotels are of a class that I normally [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► wouldn't book for myself where I walk in [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► and I'm like oh la la [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► you know like ring ring Garcon bring me [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► a steak sandwich it's not a place where [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► you could ask for just a bucket of ice [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► and they would bring it to you and they [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► wouldn't groan right right or like what [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► we're like where I say you know what I [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► don't like everything would you change [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► it and they're like of course Wow so I [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► walked into this place and I realized oh [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► this is actually the class of hotel room [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► that I am uses your class yeah this is [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► not a hotel room that someone would buy [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► for me because they wouldn't they [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► wouldn't say like oh let's get him one [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► in Union [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► Square quote unquote they would say oh [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► we have to put him up somewhere you know [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► we have to put him up at the hotel [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► kabuki and so I was i I kind of felt [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► great I there was a feeling washed over [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► me of like yes this is for 20 years this [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► was the hotel that I stayed in and it [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► felt like coming home and so I sat there [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► and I listened to the people screaming [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► in the street and I looked at my little [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► patch of carpet and you know what it did [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► have was a bathroom that had not been [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► restored where the bathtub was taken out [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► and replaced with a stand-up fucking [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► shower it still had the bathtub with the [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► tile around it [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► it was like it still had wind Oh Merlin [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► it was on the sixth floor Linga stood [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► open windows open dog oh my god all the [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► way I opened him all the way out I [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► leaned out I could have smoked a [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► cigarette there was a fire escape like [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► look at the pictures of this place it's [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► a it's a hell of a place it felt like [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► coming home that's a good feeling it's [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► just pure John you didn't have any any [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► hindrances you just see right you got in [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► you got out I hung up my blazer on a [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► hook and then in the morning and I hung [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► up my tie on a hook and then in the [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► morning I got up I put the Blazer back [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► on and didn't even have to put the tie [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► back on good for you man and went out [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► into the world just like just like Willy [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► Loman you wear every part of the Buffalo [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► yeah yeah fucking yeah so good how'd [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► your gig go Oh a gig was great you know [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► it's lit quake down there right now oh [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► is that right having a set of my cards [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► there was a time I think you remember [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► several several years ago where I made [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► the commitment to myself to begin to [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► think of at least the West Coast as [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► essentially one contiguous urban area [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► like one long urban corridor right yeah [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► so if somebody in Portland said hey [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► we're having a literary festival will [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► you come down [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► I would never say that's like two hour [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► drive I just said yes mm-hmm and when [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► someone in San Francisco said will you [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► come emcee the World Series of poetry at [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► lit quake I said yeah it's an [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► hour-and-a-half flight that cost 150 [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► dollars yes I and if someone said I'm [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► your girlfriend and I live in LA will [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► you come down here 14 times a month it's [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► right on the corridor I would say yes of [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► course I will it's a two-hour flight it [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► costs a hundred and sixty dollars huh [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► and so I got in this habit well hang on [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► so Seattle to LA Seattle San Francisco [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► you those are both those are both [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► virginal they are they're Alaska [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► Airlines but you're still you're still [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► mobbed up with United right uh Delta I [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► will not go on United I wouldn't take [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► United if my city was on fire and I [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► haven't get out I wouldn't go on United [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► strat recruit free flight out of town [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► United nope nobody nope nope no I mean [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► I'm agnostic about American Airlines and [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► I like virgin but you know virgin was [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► purchased by Alaska yeah but we're still [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► in the in the in the period where it's [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► still it's still its own thing we [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► flipped the summer it was terrific [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► okay look more you get one of those big [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► chairs with with with room in front of [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► you and I decide airline John I'm really [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► gonna miss that airline you know I went [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► to an event with Richard Branson earlier [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► this year me too which one did you go to [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► he was dick he was doing his Richard [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► Branson thing where he loon he arrives [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► at a balloon he for whatever reason he [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► travels well I don't know I mean I when [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► I say for whatever reason I know what [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► the reason is he travels everywhere with [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► eight stewardesses dressed in 1960s [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► stewardess outfits like super tight [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► pencil skirts and pillbox hat squad [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► goalie who just roll into a venue before [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► he gets there and just situate [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► themselves around the room and then then [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► he comes and I don't hate that idea [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► Wow geez but then he sat up on the stage [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► and had the kind of temerity to talk [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► about how many well yeah yeah and how [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► men in business need to get hip to [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► feminism and if promote women in there's [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► a cognitive disconnect because none of [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► these none of these air hostesses are [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► older than 26 years old they were not [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► chosen for their like superhuman ability [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► to serve drinks fast no I'll tell you [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► that right but so I met this man [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► actually I met a nice air hostess and we [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► had a wonderful time chatting she was [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► talking to the air hostess it's a joy of [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► my life and she said actually as I [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► quizzed her that her job was exclusively [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► to air hostess on Richard Branson's jet [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► when he flies around the world huh so I [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► follow her on Instagram now and her [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► Instagram posts are just like Here I am [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► by the pool of Dubai Here I am by the [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► tool in Johannesburg Here I am by [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► anywhere Richard Branson goes he carries [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► the this full complement of like 60s [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► attired [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► air hostesses five wouldn't be enough no [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► no no no sometimes I bet it's 14 of I [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► wonder if they know kung fu I wonder if [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► they each have like a special martial [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► arts skill this gal definitely knows [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► kung fu or is able to pick locks or can [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► throw a knife oh she could be like the [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► bomb guy I bet she I bet she no no no [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► the bomb guy would have a British act [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► did have a British accent wait a minute [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► oh my gosh accent oh man they all [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► British accents are from British when I [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► talk to the air hostess let's get [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► something straight [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► first of all well second of all yes I [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► wanted to be I want to be liked to be [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► liked by everyone the first thing with [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► the air hostess is though I want to let [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► them know I'm not gonna be a problem [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► that's right I'm out of my way to make [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► sure you know I'm not gonna be like [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► Dutch right I'm an I'm a nice guy but [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► I'm not a creep right and I mean this is [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► any kind of host or hostess but really [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► what [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► I go in there it's like a soup nazi [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► thing where I'm just like I just want [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► you to know I am I am NOT gonna be a [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► problem I'm gonna be grateful I'm gonna [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► kind of and be quiet I'm not gonna ask [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► for extraordinary things and if there's [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► a pinch you can count on me I got your [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► back yeah that's right that's right I [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► will help you and I hope my hope I hope [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► that does make you like me but like the [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► first of all first things first you know [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► eat your brain like I want you to know I [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► am NOT gonna be a problem here right [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► you're Merlin man you don't think she's [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► just a weight that's very good is that [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► right there's a new alive alive [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► replacements record from eighty five or [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► six no they're good it sounds good I saw [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► them in 1987 and it was that's when they [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► will just be drunk in public a lot yeah [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► I was terrible and in fact at the end of [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► the show little brother mm-hmm the last [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► thing he said into the microphone was he [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► quoted Johnny Rotten at the final Sex [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► Pistols show at the Cow Palace or [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► whatever when he said into the [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► microphone Gemma feel like you've been [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► cheated hmm because the show was so [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► awful and he said that into the mic [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► which was uh he was you know he was [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► referencing another shitty band as [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► levels to it yeah where he was just like [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► yeah if you ever feel like you've been [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► cheated but he said it in his [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► Minneapolis there's a good there's a [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► good nickname for you though his his [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► older brother was known as smokin Bob or [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► smoking and drinking Bob smoking and [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► smoking Bob smoking Bob is a pretty cool [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► nickname it is problems he had a lot a [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► lot a lot of things going on smoking but [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► yeah I I thought you were gonna say [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► cheater cheaters would be a killer [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► nickname cheater [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► what's up cheater cheater who is the guy [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► your guys Skeeter Skeeter yeah Skeeter [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► Skeeter died but cheater cheater our [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► local our local guy think my adoptive [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► local guys having a real rough patch [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► right now yeah see ya hit bottom bumping [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► along yeah yeah yeah you know we got on [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► the train for our daddy-daughter [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► afternoon we do on the weekends [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► and and our local guy was on there and [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► he had to they had to throw him off the [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► train Oh No yeah yeah well here's the [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► problem from like I say his name he's my [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► guy so here's the deal if there's [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► somebody in your area you adopt them and [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► that means every time you see them you [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► give them a certain amount of money [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► every time I see him I give him 20 bucks [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► I know it's not helping but it's helping [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► a little bit but like that'll make his [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► life a little less whatever it is for [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► like a little while I know email John [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► but he's my guy and we know each other [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► not for a long time he was [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► confrontational and violent like at the [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► time when my daughter was a baby he was [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► real scary and I was super sensitive to [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► his scariness and we had lots of yelling [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► matches I've seen this guy the guy with [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► the beard yeah we went out one time we [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► were going to your local Taco Bell [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► Kentucky Fried Chicken yeah we were not [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► going in there because I wouldn't let [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► you we were walking up to the dirty [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► hands dim sum place but we had a [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► confrontation was my second by the ATM [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► right he was sleeping by the ATM and [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► there was a little bit of like yeah and [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► he gave him a little bar oh yeah well so [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► then things got better he got something [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► happened he got picked up cleaned up [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► medicated and the heartbreaking part is [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► like we would have conversations the [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► heartbreaking to me as this dumb white [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► guy with a house but like we would me [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► and the dude would talk and he was funny [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► it has sense of humor and seemed a [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► little bit maybe even kind of literate [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► like like maybe like he had been a [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► professor or something like he was fun [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► to talk to [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► right it's just one of those things were [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► like you don't see him for a while and [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► you go like is this it you know right [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► did he not make it now he was on the [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► train yesterday being pretty rough and [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► confrontational and they dropped some [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► f-bombs and you know my daughter and I [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► you know you just kind of ignore it [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► because we're gonna do you're on a train [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► and I just turned her I said yeah Nima [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► guys having a rough day yeah [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► I'm not sure why I'm saying this but it [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► made me sad yeah that is that is sad I [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► mean my mom adopts people who are [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► struggling and does the same thing but [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► but also like tries to get them in touch [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► with their families and tries to find [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► them housing and so forth and she will [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► have you know she has a kind of string [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► of these guys that she [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► is sort of caring for in the course of [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► her daily and she brought people home oh [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► yeah okay oh yeah I thought I remembered [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► that you know she you know bottom plane [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► tickets like really trying to help [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► people and she'll lose them she'll lose [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► one every once awhile [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► one every once awhile [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► really die or they spin out or you know [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► or they go from clean with a job and an [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► apartment through a process through a [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► whole process of like getting them on [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► medication getting them back into the [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► world clean job and apartment all the [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► way back down to sitting in front of the [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► supermarket insensible doesn't recognize [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► people who've never been through a bad [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► thing I know everybody feels like [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► they've been through super bad things [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► but you look at that you go oh that poor [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► person they're always gonna be on this [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► you know one step away from everything [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► falling apart but I mean if there's [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► anything that we learn from Trading [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► Places one of the great movies I think [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► it's important to realize that like well [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► you know maybe you just haven't fallen [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► hard enough yet to now be vulnerable to [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► future Falls yeah do you know what I [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► mean well and everything about mental [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► illness is that there's no there's just [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► a lot of mental illness that there isn't [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► there's no cure you know there's just [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► there's just monitoring and there's like [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► monitoring management amelioration I [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► mean we should get Richard Branson on [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► this oh well the thing about Richard [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► Branson there's also where he back to [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► Sunday but go ahead uh it was very [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► interesting in this in the course of [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► this talk where he was where he was [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► saying he was chastising everyone in the [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► room for not paying women the same that [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► he was paying these air hostesses [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► followed followed him everywhere and [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► when he decided to go waterskiing they [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► all like tried to see how many of them [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► could get up on his shoulders and that's [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► fun that's like the like the go-go's [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► cover the go-go's Rick it's all I ever [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► wanted at one point he digressed because [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► he's a very he's a very good dose or [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► he's not somebody that's gonna stick to [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► the script you know what I'm saying he [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► said yeah well you know Alaska Airlines [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► bought Virgin America from me earlier [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► this year for an undisclosed sum large [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► sum but they when they were negotiating [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► with me they promised that they were [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► gonna keep it virgin they were gonna [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► keep Virgin Airlines alive of all the [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► brands out there maybe even arguably [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► more than [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► see like a United buying a JetBlue and [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► turning it into basically like United [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► but especially with virgin the brand [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► equity in that is just bananas the [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► well-earned brand equity I have to say [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► and he said the same thing he was like [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► as soon as they completed the purchase [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► they were like oh sorry we lied we're [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► turning it all into Alaska sites and he [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► said she's nuts and Alaska's bad I would [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► put Alaska like probably right under [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► JetBlue which is right after virgin I've [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► had a lot of really good experiences [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► back in the day you could upgrade to [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► first class for 50 bucks do you remember [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► that yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean I was I [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► was in Alaska never a like a gold member [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► but I was an MVP until until Jason fin [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► got involved and told me that I needed [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► to be on Delta because Alaska didn't go [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► to to Bahrain for the long game [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► apparently that's not leonid brezhnev on [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► the tail no no no in fact I remember as [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► a kid Alaska Airlines the tails of [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► Alaska planes had like ten different [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► little things there was a totem pole [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► there was a little the little girl there [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► was a there was a lady there were there [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► was an eagle or whatever they're really [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► different things that were evocative of [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► Alaska it was all the problem is that [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► does not read as a hood no it doesn't [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► the whole thing does not translate to a [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► young Maudie [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► it looks like Brezhnev as the MGM lion [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► it's sort of like what happened to [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► Colonel Sanders he's become a thing [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► where you don't even recognize who that [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► he used to actually be a dude yeah but [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► in the 70s Alaska livery was very [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► evocative and I think he I think that [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► man in the hood had not been car tuned [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► to the degree he is now okay and you [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► could see that he was in a parka oh but [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► seeing you know this is cool okay I'm [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► looking at an Alaska Alaska's signage in [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► the 70s was much more to be honest much [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► more American I'm looking there looks [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► like they've got a Helvetica ish [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► typeface I see a hysto Nepal was that [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► the right word for that were we allowed [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► to say that yes we are okay and it's got [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► Brezhnev it's got some kind of a tower [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► it's got a minor KY I got with the [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► pickaxe there's a minor guide there was [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► a little there was a little girl in [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► there somewhere the minor oh the minor I [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► loved the minor was kept a thousand-yard [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► minor stair yeah he does but so Branson [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► says in his way where he's like look I [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► don't want to toot my own horn help [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► though that is 92% of what I do yeah [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► toot my own horn but he said virgin is [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► the is one of the great brands what was [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► Alaska thinking and then he does a big [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► comical shrug and he goes well you know [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► that's business and we're all meant to [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► be like wow he's really wise Wow he just [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► Ted talked to the shit out of us I'm [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► gonna go pay my female executives the [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► same I pay my mailings are there other [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► so was this an unusual thing for for [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► whatever reason you mixed up a Sunday in [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► a Monday is that an unusual thing for [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► are there other days of the week that [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► you will occasionally mix up with any [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► regularity there is very little [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► difference in my life between a Sunday [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► and Monday see okay this is the thing [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► that I don't understand it's like you do [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► kid things yeah and like yeah my life is [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► entirely described by the five day [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► school week pretty much a six in the [TS]

01:05:44 ◼   ► morning today to take to get to get baby [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► ready for school huh but here's the [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► thing because I have an unconventional [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► family relationship both with my mother [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► and my daughter's mother there is on any [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► given day I might be getting up at 6:00 [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► to get baby ready for school I might be [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► not doing that I might be the one that [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► picks baby up from school I might be the [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► one that goes to school because there's [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► a field trip that day and and there's a [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► parent that needs to go along with the [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► field trip or I might be left completely [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► alone and no one has no one asks [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► anything of me or I might have a meeting [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► that day at any hour from 8 a.m. to 8 [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► p.m. that I have to go [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► do like it's all everything comes out of [TS]

01:06:43 ◼   ► a blunderbuss mm-hmm like I have a [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► blunderbuss calendar and we all just [TS]

01:06:50 ◼   ► work around each other because her mom [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► travels for work her mom has things to [TS]

01:06:55 ◼   ► do after work mom wants time alone to [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► clean up her house and get her life back [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► in order her mom has all kinds of you [TS]

01:07:02 ◼   ► know normal human needs - yes [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► and my mom also is like right in the mix [TS]

01:07:08 ◼   ► because she gets up at 4:30 in the [TS]

01:07:12 ◼   ► morning so like 7 a.m. she's raring to [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► go mm-hmm if I would get up at 7 a.m. my [TS]

01:07:19 ◼   ► mom and I would get so much done before [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► noon like that's her dream son right who [TS]

01:07:24 ◼   ► gets up at 7 and it's like already [TS]

01:07:26 ◼   ► digging a hole by 7:45 that's I've done [TS]

01:07:34 ◼   ► that at times different times where a [TS]

01:07:37 ◼   ► variety different circumstances have [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► made it smart for me to get up super [TS]

01:07:40 ◼   ► early and it is incredible and you do [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► get so much done before sunrise but it's [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► also a lifestyle - 12 - what your mother [TS]

01:07:50 ◼   ► is not only committed but like that that [TS]

01:07:52 ◼   ► is her preferred lifestyle obviously [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► that is her preferred lifestyle that's [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► right she wants she wants a house that [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► looks East because she likes to sit in [TS]

01:07:59 ◼   ► the morning already halfway through the [TS]

01:08:01 ◼   ► newspaper and watch the Sun come up [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► anyway so this also this sort of like [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► randomness also continues on to the [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► weekends so there are Sundays where I [TS]

01:08:16 ◼   ► might get up in the middle of them you [TS]

01:08:18 ◼   ► know I might get up at the crack of dawn [TS]

01:08:19 ◼   ► to go have to do something because of [TS]

01:08:22 ◼   ► the flying everywhere for the show [TS]