Roderick on the Line

Ep. 263: "Rear Admiral Crunch"


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00:00:22   hello hi John hi Merlyn how's it going [TS]

00:00:26   super good [TS]

00:00:28   are you having a nice morning so far a [TS]

00:00:30   pretty good morning yeah T good morning [TS]

00:00:33   you know I'm trying to I'm trying to [TS]

00:00:35   practice better sleep hygiene I've heard [TS]

00:00:38   rumors about this yeah and the Sun now [TS]

00:00:41   the Sun has become my friend the Sun [TS]

00:00:44   accommodates us it's finally like a [TS]

00:00:46   normal day yeah I accept we're about [TS]

00:00:48   daylight savings time it again uh like a [TS]

00:00:52   week from now it's all gonna go to shit [TS]

00:00:54   again [TS]

00:00:54   it's only in the last week that sunset [TS]

00:00:57   feels like a normal time and I don't I [TS]

00:01:01   don't mind the dark mornings but it [TS]

00:01:02   feels like it came up I mean you're in a [TS]

00:01:03   different latitude longitude you're in a [TS]

00:01:05   different horizontal than I am that's [TS]

00:01:07   right [TS]

00:01:07   latitude what does that do to your day I [TS]

00:01:11   mean it's both right cuz I remember [TS]

00:01:13   being in Portland and thinking their [TS]

00:01:14   time feels different here it is [TS]

00:01:16   different yeah and the summertime the [TS]

00:01:18   Sun doesn't go down until like almost [TS]

00:01:21   10:00 but in the winter especially after [TS]

00:01:25   the after the the daylight savings time [TS]

00:01:28   comes in the Sun Goes Down at 4:00 yeah [TS]

00:01:32   and so that's too early John that's [TS]

00:01:35   right it's the worst and there's no [TS]

00:01:36   reason for daylight savings time up here [TS]

00:01:38   it doesn't it all it does is is pummel [TS]

00:01:41   us nobody cares if it's like light at [TS]

00:01:46   give your family more time to collect [TS]

00:01:48   their potatoes yeah yes so so appalling [TS]

00:01:52   it's like when you get home from work [TS]

00:01:53   it's already dark when you get home from [TS]

00:01:56   school it's like already dark there's no [TS]

00:01:58   daylight that is hard on my lady friend [TS]

00:02:00   man she works for a living [TS]

00:02:01   it sucks to leave work while the Sun is [TS]

00:02:03   setting is gross it's terrible well you [TS]

00:02:06   know what I was growing up in the winter [TS]

00:02:09   you never saw the Sun I had a classroom [TS]

00:02:11   my fifth and sixth grade classroom was [TS]

00:02:13   in a converted locker room because the [TS]

00:02:17   hotter the school my elementary school [TS]

00:02:21   had been a Catholic school like a [TS]

00:02:24   private school and somehow the city [TS]

00:02:26   absorbed it but there but it wasn't [TS]

00:02:29   quite big enough to to accommodate all [TS]

00:02:33   the students and so they and also there [TS]

00:02:35   weren't [TS]

00:02:36   locker rooms because it was an [TS]

00:02:37   elementary school now instead of I mean [TS]

00:02:39   I think it was a Catholic junior high or [TS]

00:02:42   something okay so they turned the locker [TS]

00:02:44   room into a into a class and it was [TS]

00:02:49   great in there it was like this it was [TS]

00:02:51   like this little it wasn't little it was [TS]

00:02:54   big but it was all carpeted they had [TS]

00:02:56   carpeted the floors I think they'd [TS]

00:02:58   carpeted like they put carpet on [TS]

00:03:01   everything they could and it just felt [TS]

00:03:02   like a little womb in there but the [TS]

00:03:04   problem is you would go in in the [TS]

00:03:06   morning and it would be dark and you [TS]

00:03:08   would come out at night and it would be [TS]

00:03:09   dark and it was like you just I mean I [TS]

00:03:13   guess on sunny days they would they [TS]

00:03:15   would give us recess and we'd go outside [TS]

00:03:16   and get a little Sun but there were [TS]

00:03:20   windows right so you couldn't look out [TS]

00:03:21   and even see no good that's good body [TS]

00:03:25   clock it does but it was like living [TS]

00:03:27   inside of a beanbag chair I'm talking [TS]

00:03:30   about it I kind of miss it I would take [TS]

00:03:31   it go back to my fifth grade class and [TS]

00:03:34   just curl up in the corner and read [TS]

00:03:36   watership down a Sat book you left alone [TS]

00:03:39   it is a sad book huh [TS]

00:03:41   it is that book um I want to circle back [TS]

00:03:44   to your sleep because I I'm not up to [TS]

00:03:46   date on your other program but I'd like [TS]

00:03:47   to hear about your sleep I'm just saying [TS]

00:03:48   I've talked about this too much lately [TS]

00:03:50   so I'm just gonna say this I'm uh I have [TS]

00:03:52   feelings about time and I have a lot of [TS]

00:03:55   feelings about time and keeps on tickin [TS]

00:03:57   and yeah I my thought on this is just [TS]

00:04:03   pick one just pick one good time I mean [TS]

00:04:06   if we're gonna do daylight saving time [TS]

00:04:08   let's do that all the time if we do the [TS]

00:04:10   other one let's do the other one but [TS]

00:04:11   let's just do one and stick with it it's [TS]

00:04:13   the change is you have a kid now that's [TS]

00:04:16   old enough that you're probably facing [TS]

00:04:18   this when daylight saving time starts it [TS]

00:04:21   feels criminal to a child [TS]

00:04:23   mm-hmm it's not even near sunset you're [TS]

00:04:26   supposed to go to bed while the Sun is [TS]

00:04:28   still visible in the sky I will farm [TS]

00:04:31   people no thanks Marcia are we what what [TS]

00:04:34   what is happening we need to just get [TS]

00:04:36   one in and stick with it I think that [TS]

00:04:38   Jim I have a lot of other feelings but [TS]

00:04:39   just for the purposes of this program I [TS]

00:04:41   just want to say let's not [TS]

00:04:42   overcomplicate this it seems like [TS]

00:04:44   daylight savings time [TS]

00:04:46   and the electoral college gam starting a [TS]

00:04:50   list are the same right they're both [TS]

00:04:53   things that we need to eliminate but [TS]

00:04:56   there's a lot of investment in it that [TS]

00:05:00   no you know it's like the sunk cost [TS]

00:05:01   fallacy nobody really cares what we've [TS]

00:05:04   invested in them like it's not it's not [TS]

00:05:06   like it's not like it would cost us [TS]

00:05:10   really any money we just were just [TS]

00:05:12   emotionally invested in these dumb ideas [TS]

00:05:15   that are and also like the electro [TS]

00:05:17   college is getting worse the time thing [TS]

00:05:19   sucks but it's always sucked mostly the [TS]

00:05:20   same the electro college problem is [TS]

00:05:22   getting worse yeah but there's no you [TS]

00:05:25   know that's not like the it's not like [TS]

00:05:27   the people in power presently are going [TS]

00:05:29   to do anything about I know I know but [TS]

00:05:30   as more people move to cities and as [TS]

00:05:32   collections of various political parties [TS]

00:05:34   tend to get more kind of collect or pool [TS]

00:05:38   down to these same areas I mean come on [TS]

00:05:41   Montana really it's awful so but what do [TS]

00:05:44   we do it's another example of of what [TS]

00:05:47   what of a situation where they just need [TS]

00:05:50   to give us the keys let's that [TS]

00:05:51   do-nothing Congress Congress keeps [TS]

00:05:55   changing or changing our clock the [TS]

00:05:58   government wasn't it Arizona that [TS]

00:06:00   decided in their in their way the path [TS]

00:06:03   they passed a referendum where they [TS]

00:06:05   wouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King [TS]

00:06:06   Day and also they wouldn't go on [TS]

00:06:08   daylight savings yeah oh yeah and is [TS]

00:06:11   that still true is it still the one [TS]

00:06:13   state that won't switch over hip-hop [TS]

00:06:16   songs about that I feel like and I'm [TS]

00:06:18   pretty sure that Arizona is still off [TS]

00:06:21   the daylight saving time but you know [TS]

00:06:26   there's videos you can watch about this [TS]

00:06:27   that are that will that will make you [TS]

00:06:28   extra super mad because there are there [TS]

00:06:30   are areas where like to two different [TS]

00:06:32   sides of the street you know are like in [TS]

00:06:34   different times there's stuff it's just [TS]

00:06:36   bananas oh I'm so mad already [TS]

00:06:38   yeah that's I'm so mad I'm so mad you [TS]

00:06:40   know that's like splitting families [TS]

00:06:42   apart it's like kind of temporal Civil [TS]

00:06:45   War yeah that's right that's exactly [TS]

00:06:47   what it is one side over here the other [TS]

00:06:49   side over here it's got no soup yeah and [TS]

00:06:51   the brother against brother but the [TS]

00:06:52   other one doesn't find out for an hour [TS]

00:06:54   it's just like in East Germany I [TS]

00:06:56   remember seeing after they took the wall [TS]

00:06:59   down there were all [TS]

00:07:00   these situations where it I guess when [TS]

00:07:03   the wall was there it was maybe less [TS]

00:07:06   clear because there was a giant wall but [TS]

00:07:11   when the wall went down you realized how [TS]

00:07:13   many places came out in the countryside [TS]

00:07:15   that they'd that just like in Berlin [TS]

00:07:18   they ran this wall down the middle of [TS]

00:07:20   the street and there was a house over [TS]

00:07:22   here and there was a house over there [TS]

00:07:24   and all of a sudden there was a no-man's [TS]

00:07:26   land between them where they had been [TS]

00:07:29   like neighbors where you could call from [TS]

00:07:32   the porch and like your Leahy who that's [TS]

00:07:36   that's so arbitrary it's like a tornado [TS]

00:07:37   you know you just it's ridiculous right [TS]

00:07:40   it's crazy it's crazy and and you you [TS]

00:07:42   can stand in those places now and just [TS]

00:07:43   be like wait a minute wait a minute wait [TS]

00:07:45   wait these were two separate countries [TS]

00:07:46   before like like really it's across the [TS]

00:07:49   street what else goes on the list I've [TS]

00:07:51   got don't talk about your sleep I got [TS]

00:07:52   daylight saving time I got the electoral [TS]

00:07:54   college are there other things that were [TS]

00:07:56   once a good idea for a reason that are [TS]

00:07:58   sticking around in a way that's that's [TS]

00:08:01   perhaps harming us more than helping us [TS]

00:08:03   hmm that's a good question [TS]

00:08:05   yeah we'll think on it I got I got a [TS]

00:08:07   list start it if you think of anything [TS]

00:08:08   well you know I'm thinking I'm I'm [TS]

00:08:10   thinking about that stuff all the time [TS]

00:08:13   you know I usually usually think about [TS]

00:08:15   it in terms of like top-down [TS]

00:08:18   organization rather than bottom-up [TS]

00:08:20   organization mmm-hmm [TS]

00:08:22   I mean there are ones that are just like [TS]

00:08:24   bees in my bonnet you take like [TS]

00:08:25   something like a fax machine where it's [TS]

00:08:28   almost like like anthrax or polio or [TS]

00:08:30   something we're like as long as any of [TS]

00:08:32   them are still out there we might get a [TS]

00:08:33   fax or need to get a fax they need to be [TS]

00:08:35   eradicated think we need to just say as [TS]

00:08:37   a people we were not going to use this [TS]

00:08:39   it lets served a very important purpose [TS]

00:08:41   but there are so many better ways to do [TS]

00:08:44   that at this point unless met with fax [TS]

00:08:45   machines on the list yeah please do you [TS]

00:08:47   know until very recently only it feels [TS]

00:08:50   like only a year ago even I was still [TS]

00:08:53   getting emails from people saying well [TS]

00:08:56   just fax just print this out sign it and [TS]

00:08:59   fax it back to me and I always refused [TS]

00:09:03   to do it [TS]

00:09:03   and there were a lot of well [TS]

00:09:13   yeah it's been like oh no you DocuSign [TS]

00:09:16   but I do a lot of my business on my [TS]

00:09:19   phone and a lot of those apps are badly [TS]

00:09:21   well I don't have to tell you about an [TS]

00:09:24   app that's badly you said this to people [TS]

00:09:27   in positions of power or basically if [TS]

00:09:29   you can't do it on your phone you're not [TS]

00:09:30   gonna do it right and I said I said to a [TS]

00:09:33   guy the other day he was like well just [TS]

00:09:35   send me an invoice for that and I said [TS]

00:09:36   you and I've been doing business for 22 [TS]

00:09:38   years uh-huh do you need me to fucking [TS]

00:09:41   send you an invoice are you serious are [TS]

00:09:43   you serious right now [TS]

00:09:44   you need an invoice from me legging [TS]

00:09:46   write it out on a piece of paper and [TS]

00:09:48   sign my name to it you know I don't give [TS]

00:09:50   a shit but what world are we living in [TS]

00:09:52   they use yeah I need to send you an [TS]

00:09:54   input Britney's for a system probably [TS]

00:09:56   sky Sesenta the thing is I sent him one [TS]

00:09:58   he's like oh I can't open that because I [TS]

00:10:01   because I did it in pages because I [TS]

00:10:04   don't have word I don't know I don't [TS]

00:10:07   know man I don't know send a text file [TS]

00:10:10   it says send me $200 motherfucker right [TS]

00:10:13   so don't make it a check I'm putting [TS]

00:10:14   checks on a list so he says oh well if I [TS]

00:10:17   was the business I can't send it to you [TS]

00:10:19   because I'm not the business manager if [TS]

00:10:21   I was the business manager I'd do it and [TS]

00:10:23   I'm like you're the manager what do you [TS]

00:10:26   mean business you're doing with the [TS]

00:10:28   manager manager you're the manager [TS]

00:10:30   manager you telling me that the business [TS]

00:10:32   manager has got some system that you are [TS]

00:10:35   like yes ma'am Trump won but DocuSign [TS]

00:10:49   and I know this is not a plug but [TS]

00:10:56   DocuSign in the last nine months let's [TS]

00:11:00   say has finally gotten to a point where [TS]

00:11:04   more than 60% of the time I use it I [TS]

00:11:07   don't fling my phone across the room and [TS]

00:11:10   scream well that's that's nice to hear [TS]

00:11:11   yeah so I just signed a contract a few [TS]

00:11:13   days ago I signed it on DocuSign and and [TS]

00:11:16   it was one of those I think some we [TS]

00:11:18   crossed some line where these apps now [TS]

00:11:22   are starting to say like ah you've been [TS]

00:11:26   here [TS]

00:11:27   or yes I like like square when you when [TS]

00:11:32   you when you go to a shop and you use [TS]

00:11:34   your credit card on this way it no [TS]

00:11:37   longer in most cases is confused by who [TS]

00:11:41   you are and wants you to put your email [TS]

00:11:42   address in right if I've used a credit [TS]

00:11:44   card on square now I get a receipt in [TS]

00:11:46   them yeah it just has decide it's [TS]

00:11:50   figured it out it's figured out for the [TS]

00:11:52   most part there are still some places [TS]

00:11:53   that are like where they were the person [TS]

00:11:55   behind the counter says would you like a [TS]

00:11:56   receipt would you like a receipt and I'm [TS]

00:11:58   like yes I always want to receipt and [TS]

00:12:00   they're like they turn the thing around [TS]

00:12:01   they're like just put in your email [TS]

00:12:02   address I'm like I would rather give you [TS]

00:12:06   a pint of blood and stand here and put [TS]

00:12:11   my email address and for my blood [TS]

00:12:15   you know what you're gonna get before [TS]

00:12:17   you get a email address I want you to [TS]

00:12:19   fax me the receipt yeah I want you to [TS]

00:12:21   fax it between two slices of bread [TS]

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00:15:04   roderick on the line and all the great [TS]

00:15:07   shows well okay here's the thing I don't [TS]

00:15:11   go on about checks but you know the [TS]

00:15:13   thing is a check made sense at a time [TS]

00:15:15   when you hmm [TS]

00:15:16   the Czech people oh no sorry now I'm not [TS]

00:15:19   talking about the metal the metal is no [TS]

00:15:21   but like in a time when most of us were [TS]

00:15:23   using American green currency and coins [TS]

00:15:26   to pay for things checks made a lot of [TS]

00:15:28   sense so like if you want to get your [TS]

00:15:29   sea-monkeys right you might you might [TS]

00:15:32   send a senate check or what a check or [TS]

00:15:34   your rent because it doesn't make sense [TS]

00:15:35   sense to send your $200 rent check or to [TS]

00:15:38   send your $200 in cash in the mail look [TS]

00:15:41   you don't want to do that no and so you [TS]

00:15:43   say please accept this little piece of [TS]

00:15:44   paper with my signature that's going on [TS]

00:15:47   the list with my signature on it so you [TS]

00:15:48   know it's me and then my bank will give [TS]

00:15:50   you this much money if it's in them it [TS]

00:15:53   made a lot of sense but now [TS]

00:15:54   doing that so much now people especially [TS]

00:15:56   the millenniums the millenniums don't [TS]

00:15:58   even understand what cash is anymore by [TS]

00:16:03   some Altoids and the user leaves their [TS]

00:16:05   chip card yeah [TS]

00:16:06   that's why I keep I keep paying [TS]

00:16:08   millenniums for things in in Canadian [TS]

00:16:11   currency because they don't know the [TS]

00:16:12   difference I'm like here you go this is [TS]

00:16:13   two loonies and a toonie and they're [TS]

00:16:17   like thanks thanks man priests process [TS]

00:16:20   is real gold [TS]

00:16:21   that's a Canadian doubloon blooney a [TS]

00:16:25   doubloon e huh yeah they they put it up [TS]

00:16:29   into their mouths and they they bite on [TS]

00:16:30   it because they've seen Olympians do [TS]

00:16:32   that with their gold medal our [TS]

00:16:33   prospectors counterfeit money I learned [TS]

00:16:40   from prospectors I actually still get a [TS]

00:16:44   book of checks oh I think I know because [TS]

00:16:48   I pay people that come around oh sure [TS]

00:16:52   my psalm wouldn't turn down a check I [TS]

00:16:54   bet no no in fact they paid him with a [TS]

00:16:56   check I pay people that come around I [TS]

00:17:00   like to have every kind of financial [TS]

00:17:01   instruments available because there are [TS]

00:17:03   a lot of people that I do business with [TS]

00:17:05   the don't they don't trust the banks do [TS]

00:17:06   you want a German bearer bond yeah [TS]

00:17:09   that's right that's right and the way I [TS]

00:17:11   get them is that I shut down the entire [TS]

00:17:14   electrical grid mmm [TS]

00:17:16   ladies and gentlemen I give you the [TS]

00:17:18   f-b-i smell that coffee they pack them [TS]

00:17:21   with coffee but I just I just found out [TS]

00:17:25   the other day because you know that I [TS]

00:17:28   don't like to sit and yell at companies [TS]

00:17:31   or corporation you know that's not gonna [TS]

00:17:34   happen I don't like to do it but [TS]

00:17:36   recently Chase Bank some kind of a [TS]

00:17:47   problem and Jesus was now in your bed [TS]

00:17:49   box yeah there's a problem we've written [TS]

00:17:53   a thousand word letter to them to the [TS]

00:17:55   States Attorney General so so you know a [TS]

00:18:01   letter was drafted a minute went out and [TS]

00:18:03   we edited it down [TS]

00:18:05   and now it's ready to send cowboy the [TS]

00:18:07   States Attorney General is gonna hear [TS]

00:18:09   about it when I was growing up we always [TS]

00:18:12   used the National Bank of Alaska and [TS]

00:18:14   there were a lot of there was the bank [TS]

00:18:17   it's a National Bank [TS]

00:18:18   well the National Bank of Alaska it's [TS]

00:18:21   the bank of the nation of Alaska okay [TS]

00:18:24   when my dad worked for the Alaska [TS]

00:18:25   Railroad we used the Alaska Railroad [TS]

00:18:27   employees Federal Credit Union and that [TS]

00:18:31   was my first book of checks and when my [TS]

00:18:34   and that was like 12 years old my dad [TS]

00:18:36   was like I'm getting you a checking [TS]

00:18:38   account and I was like oh my god I'm so [TS]

00:18:40   big I could almost drive and they let me [TS]

00:18:44   pick out the kind of checks I wanted and [TS]

00:18:46   of course I got the ones with the [TS]

00:18:49   Western theme that looked like old [TS]

00:18:51   parchment and my checkbook looked like [TS]

00:18:55   hand tooled leather that's a good look [TS]

00:18:57   that's a really good look it's really [TS]

00:18:59   impressed by it and so because I wanted [TS]

00:19:01   to be prepared I went through and I [TS]

00:19:04   signed every check in advance so I [TS]

00:19:05   didn't have to worry about doing it a [TS]

00:19:12   hand-tooled leather book of checks a [TS]

00:19:16   blank side checked in [TS]

00:19:19   that was my first experience before that [TS]

00:19:22   my bank account that I had down here in [TS]

00:19:25   Seattle when I was a kid you know I had [TS]

00:19:26   a bank book they not only millenniums [TS]

00:19:30   one book yeah but even like Generation Y [TS]

00:19:33   won't understand what that is but they [TS]

00:19:35   give you a password a book like a pass [TS]

00:19:37   it was and it was like a little ledger [TS]

00:19:39   yeah and every time you made a deposit [TS]

00:19:41   they would like write it in this book [TS]

00:19:44   and and and every time you you admit it [TS]

00:19:47   withdrawn so you could keep this little [TS]

00:19:49   book oh my god I pored over this little [TS]

00:19:53   book you know because every every time [TS]

00:19:55   somebody would give me 25 cents I would [TS]

00:19:57   put it in a shoebox then when I got up [TS]

00:19:59   enough money that it was worth a trip to [TS]

00:20:01   the bank I would carry my shoebox in to [TS]

00:20:03   the bank and give them and open the lid [TS]

00:20:06   and say like here I made a dollar doing [TS]

00:20:08   this and I mowed the lawn for six weeks [TS]

00:20:11   and let's say say that there's a lot of [TS]

00:20:12   people in life [TS]

00:20:15   they loved kids because everyone had all [TS]

00:20:17   the time in the world but that's true [TS]

00:20:19   that's true [TS]

00:20:20   you can't there be 16 people at windows [TS]

00:20:22   yeah right and the carpets on the floor [TS]

00:20:25   and they were giving away toasters going [TS]

00:20:27   to the baby I got my first digital clock [TS]

00:20:29   radio came from a bank bank right first [TS]

00:20:33   Supertramp was on a bank radio really oh [TS]

00:20:36   the rig wasn't at the bank no no I had [TS]

00:20:38   to take it home plug in and take out the [TS]

00:20:40   box and whatnot yeah but National Bank [TS]

00:20:42   it wasn't a real digital clock it was [TS]

00:20:44   one of the ones that flipped away [TS]

00:20:45   couldja flipper Chuck I was at a thrift [TS]

00:20:49   store the other day and I saw one of [TS]

00:20:50   those and it was the same one that I'd [TS]

00:20:53   had as a kid and I I was walking through [TS]

00:20:55   the shelves you know looking at all the [TS]

00:20:56   crap and I saw this thing from afar and [TS]

00:20:59   just had that like that bursts of [TS]

00:21:02   familiarity of like what the hell is [TS]

00:21:04   that like there I've seen a billion [TS]

00:21:07   clocks at thrift stores why am I having [TS]

00:21:09   this reaction I walked over to it and it [TS]

00:21:11   was like yeah oh the but this is the [TS]

00:21:14   button that I would every morning hit [TS]

00:21:17   hoping that I would the alarm would stop [TS]

00:21:20   bringing in that I would never have to [TS]

00:21:21   go to school again speaking of sleep the [TS]

00:21:28   one that I had when I was probably at my [TS]

00:21:31   nearly most sleep-deprived I want to say [TS]

00:21:33   around eighth grade it we had a real [TS]

00:21:35   nice feature if you're having trouble [TS]

00:21:37   sleeping you can get sleep at night and [TS]

00:21:39   you know what I do before the minute [TS]

00:21:42   card flipped you behind a little bit [TS]

00:21:45   just a little bit of like pumped up I [TS]

00:21:50   guess it's 12:03 now Oh back with bings [TS]

00:22:02   word things Oh things were just things [TS]

00:22:05   it was so simple then these were things [TS]

00:22:07   clocks were clocks well I hope you'll [TS]

00:22:09   follow up and you know get a response to [TS]

00:22:11   the letter oh well so anyway this is bad [TS]

00:22:16   OPSEC for even talking about banking [TS]

00:22:17   things but since you're walking out the [TS]

00:22:19   door I guess you're free to talk about [TS]

00:22:20   it yeah no it's good that so so [TS]

00:22:22   Washington Mutual I got my first washing [TS]

00:22:25   mutual account really early on in [TS]

00:22:27   91 because I tried to use US Bank and US [TS]

00:22:32   Bank had this program that they were [TS]

00:22:33   really excited about they touted this [TS]

00:22:35   program called overdraft protection [TS]

00:22:38   where if you if you wrote a check and [TS]

00:22:41   you didn't have enough money to cover it [TS]

00:22:42   they would cover it [TS]

00:22:43   it was overdraft protection that's [TS]

00:22:45   imagine I was like I was like that's [TS]

00:22:47   gonna be great you guys cover it [TS]

00:22:49   fantastic alright and then I made the [TS]

00:22:52   natural assumption that when you then [TS]

00:22:54   put more money in the bank they paid [TS]

00:22:56   themselves and whatever little charge [TS]

00:23:00   they had and and everybody was good but [TS]

00:23:05   in fact what overdraft protection was [TS]

00:23:07   was the a paid your debt and took the [TS]

00:23:11   amount that they'd paid and put it in a [TS]

00:23:13   separate account because they were loan [TS]

00:23:15   it was alone oh that's how they get you [TS]

00:23:19   yeah and so then I would make my deposit [TS]

00:23:21   of my paycheck and burp interpreter [TS]

00:23:24   Merilee on my way well one day I went [TS]

00:23:26   into the bank and they were like you're [TS]

00:23:28   $500 [TS]

00:23:29   you have $500 in your overdraft [TS]

00:23:31   protection account and it's accruing at [TS]

00:23:35   24 percent interest or something like [TS]

00:23:37   this and some banker told this to me and [TS]

00:23:39   I was like what are you talking about [TS]

00:23:41   because each one of these $20 checks [TS]

00:23:44   that had that had would that would have [TS]

00:23:47   bounced oh it's accruing toward them [TS]

00:23:49   were them oh that's that's the wrong [TS]

00:23:51   kind of accrual right and they had not [TS]

00:23:53   it was not clear and they were like oh [TS]

00:23:55   well if you'd read the fine print on the [TS]

00:23:57   thing that you signed it was one of [TS]

00:23:58   those if you'd read the fine print [TS]

00:23:59   things and so at the time I was pretty [TS]

00:24:02   young I didn't fully understand the [TS]

00:24:06   repercussions of everything that I did [TS]

00:24:07   and I said I am closing my account good [TS]

00:24:11   day sir [TS]

00:24:11   and that set in motion a situation where [TS]

00:24:16   I was getting phone calls in an attempt [TS]

00:24:20   to collect a debt and any information [TS]

00:24:22   will be used by Miranda uniforms for [TS]

00:24:26   spor eleven more years so ye every time [TS]

00:24:29   every time I had a house phone mr. [TS]

00:24:33   Roderick [TS]

00:24:34   does it make you feel like a big man not [TS]

00:24:35   to pay your bills but anyway I went to [TS]

00:24:40   Washington Mutual I loved my [TS]

00:24:41   relationship with them they were right [TS]

00:24:43   there on Broadway I remember them being [TS]

00:24:45   in Florida it was they were they became [TS]

00:24:48   a big bank but they were originally a [TS]

00:24:49   local bank [TS]

00:24:50   I had a count number that when I would [TS]

00:24:53   when I would go up to the teller and [TS]

00:24:55   they would read my account number they'd [TS]

00:24:56   say oh wow you've been here a long time [TS]

00:24:58   this is the old style of account number [TS]

00:25:00   and I always took a lot of pride in that [TS]

00:25:02   you know I like I like to have an old [TS]

00:25:04   style account number and then they got [TS]

00:25:06   too big for their britches they screwed [TS]

00:25:08   up they they became a big behemoth and [TS]

00:25:14   they fell apart well they lost a little [TS]

00:25:18   bit that personal touch [TS]

00:25:19   you really did they really did and they [TS]

00:25:21   also lost like several tens of billions [TS]

00:25:24   of dollars yeah and then they were [TS]

00:25:26   absorbed by Chase Bank a faceless New [TS]

00:25:28   York banking enterprise and and largely [TS]

00:25:31   it was because of my old account number [TS]

00:25:34   my mind now like account number that [TS]

00:25:38   predated five different iterations of of [TS]

00:25:40   the bank but I just hung in there I was [TS]

00:25:44   like all right I'm gonna hang in there [TS]

00:25:47   you know because I've got this account [TS]

00:25:48   number that starts with zero five nine [TS]

00:25:49   or something which you know which it's [TS]

00:25:54   it's hard for me to you know when I call [TS]

00:25:55   triple-a and they're like thank you for [TS]

00:25:57   being a member since 1997 I'm like you [TS]

00:25:59   goddamn right uh-huh [TS]

00:26:00   you goddamn right triple-a you provide a [TS]

00:26:02   good service even though you're even [TS]

00:26:04   there customer service is about 50/50 [TS]

00:26:06   yeah anyway Chase Bank has started they [TS]

00:26:14   wanted us to use their take a picture of [TS]

00:26:16   the check in a little little deposit [TS]

00:26:17   nothing yeah but in the last year they [TS]

00:26:22   have disappeared three separate checks [TS]

00:26:26   know where they they said your check has [TS]

00:26:30   been deposited here's your number you [TS]

00:26:32   know here's a transaction up and they [TS]

00:26:35   sent the people who whose check it was a [TS]

00:26:38   canceled like canceled check the back X [TS]

00:26:43   Emily but did not deposit the money [TS]

00:26:48   that's that feels like I don't want to [TS]

00:26:51   talk out of school here that feels like [TS]

00:26:52   a a failure at a fairly fundamental [TS]

00:26:55   level for what one considers a [TS]

00:26:57   professional bank for what a bank is [TS]

00:26:59   being asked for what we still actually [TS]

00:27:02   need a god damned bank to do that's [TS]

00:27:05   right and so they're like hey early [TS]

00:27:08   adopter grab on this technology where [TS]

00:27:10   you just take a picture with a jack why [TS]

00:27:15   do we do it's like when you go on do on [TS]

00:27:21   an app and they're like oh just put your [TS]

00:27:23   phone over your credit card and we'll [TS]

00:27:25   scan it and then it'll be in your [TS]

00:27:27   account and you sit there with your [TS]

00:27:28   phone trying to square up the credit [TS]

00:27:30   card like a minute and yeah you know I [TS]

00:27:32   could have just put the number in by now [TS]

00:27:34   anyway so we so it was my bookkeeper who [TS]

00:27:39   discovered this my bookkeeper who said [TS]

00:27:43   wait a minute [TS]

00:27:43   there's like five thousand dollars [TS]

00:27:46   missing that's a lot of money John it's [TS]

00:27:48   a lot of money so we called them we [TS]

00:27:49   called their customer service operation [TS]

00:27:51   which was in Bangalore right next to [TS]

00:27:54   where they make the torpedoes okay and [TS]

00:27:57   we talked to some people who they were [TS]

00:27:59   able to resolve it very quickly I [TS]

00:28:01   imagine ultimately what they said was [TS]

00:28:03   that a banking relationship between a [TS]

00:28:06   bank and a customer is a relationship [TS]

00:28:10   that requires some mutual effort in the [TS]

00:28:16   sense that the bank can take your money [TS]

00:28:19   and give you a number for the exchange [TS]

00:28:23   but then it's really the onus is on the [TS]

00:28:26   customer to make sure that the money was [TS]

00:28:30   there oh you fucked up this is what [TS]

00:28:32   they're saying by not being sure you [TS]

00:28:35   didn't follow up follow up make sure the [TS]

00:28:38   cheque went through is that what [TS]

00:28:39   happened yeah I didn't check the bank's [TS]

00:28:41   work and that was part of our mutual [TS]

00:28:44   obligations one I'll see now you know [TS]

00:28:45   yeah the bank takes my money and get and [TS]

00:28:49   tells me that it's fine but then I have [TS]

00:28:51   to make sure mmm [TS]

00:28:53   so that precipitated well that really [TS]

00:28:57   really kind of like if you think about [TS]

00:28:59   what is it bad [TS]

00:29:00   actually good for I mean one of the [TS]

00:29:01   obvious things is like okay they got a [TS]

00:29:03   pretty secure facility if you want to [TS]

00:29:05   put your deed in a safe-deposit box you [TS]

00:29:08   would do that if somebody sends you a [TS]

00:29:09   piece of paper that says it's worth [TS]

00:29:10   $5,000 they'll take care of that what [TS]

00:29:13   they said then you know you should [TS]

00:29:14   really be checking in on that box you [TS]

00:29:18   should pop in once in a while make sure [TS]

00:29:19   that deed is still there the way you [TS]

00:29:21   left it [TS]

00:29:21   yeah make sure that the that we didn't [TS]

00:29:23   like break it open with a crowbar [TS]

00:29:25   I thought you pushed it our relationship [TS]

00:29:27   so believe you me my bookkeeper really [TS]

00:29:31   had a lot to say on this matter and [TS]

00:29:35   wrote she tends to write very long [TS]

00:29:37   letters and then my job is to you know [TS]

00:29:41   punch him up a little bit make make him [TS]

00:29:43   a little bit tighter tighter anyway [TS]

00:29:46   she's going to the state's attorney [TS]

00:29:47   general but in any joke a but you're the [TS]

00:29:48   manager in that case yeah but we have so [TS]

00:29:51   we're now switching our bank and I and I [TS]

00:29:54   this is another Bank I've had a long [TS]

00:29:56   relationship with it because this was [TS]

00:29:57   the bank where I did the banking for the [TS]

00:29:59   Roderick group right and what I had [TS]

00:30:02   realized I didn't know this I guess [TS]

00:30:05   because I had registered several aliases [TS]

00:30:07   at that Bank because I was in a phase [TS]

00:30:10   then before I started before I really [TS]

00:30:13   started taking by the kitchen if you [TS]

00:30:19   have the option of registering an alias [TS]

00:30:22   I would I would do it out the door what [TS]

00:30:32   I did and didn't even realize I done is [TS]

00:30:35   that you can write me a check you can [TS]

00:30:39   write a check to hashtag supertrain and [TS]

00:30:41   I can catch I can cash it please someone [TS]

00:30:44   do this and I don't know why like four [TS]

00:30:49   years Wow if somebody's like oh yeah I [TS]

00:30:52   can write you a check just say like yeah [TS]

00:30:55   make it a hashtag supertrain I can do [TS]

00:30:57   that Wow what is that ever seen I could [TS]

00:31:00   see that screwing up the system because [TS]

00:31:02   that's got a special character in it [TS]

00:31:03   well it does and I'm and I'm not sure [TS]

00:31:06   either [TS]

00:31:07   about whether or not the hashtag is just [TS]

00:31:10   for fun [TS]

00:31:11   I see but to accuse about this heat now [TS]

00:31:15   well and I and I actually I sent an [TS]

00:31:17   email to my banker and I was like can I [TS]

00:31:19   really do this and then I realized wait [TS]

00:31:21   a minute I can get checks made that say [TS]

00:31:24   hashtag super training oh my god [TS]

00:31:27   I could get a platinum business card [TS]

00:31:29   that says hashtag super train on it oh [TS]

00:31:31   my god [TS]

00:31:32   and if it was one of those new ones [TS]

00:31:34   where the numbers just like kind of [TS]

00:31:36   itched on the back that would look so [TS]

00:31:38   badass it's super bad I'm okay for this [TS]

00:31:41   bounce on super train it's also also I [TS]

00:31:43   can get checks written to all the great [TS]

00:31:45   shows oh my like I don't even remember [TS]

00:31:49   doing this I must have been in an [TS]

00:31:51   absolute fugue state and I think at what [TS]

00:31:54   I did at the time I was very busy I [TS]

00:31:57   think even my banker offered me the [TS]

00:31:59   option of getting checks made with with [TS]

00:32:02   a stencil picture like a like a clipart [TS]

00:32:05   picture of a GMC RV on them and I guess [TS]

00:32:08   I I guess I maybe forgot to give him the [TS]

00:32:12   go-ahead on that now I'm kind of now i [TS]

00:32:14   partly regret it and partly am kind of [TS]

00:32:17   fine with it but I don't have this so [TS]

00:32:22   you're moving thanks that's good it [TS]

00:32:25   feels like a good step but now you're [TS]

00:32:27   gonna feel like you need to ride that [TS]

00:32:28   like if you do the I mean that's a [TS]

00:32:30   pretty common thing now you take a photo [TS]

00:32:31   of a check yeah like you feel like you [TS]

00:32:33   need with your new bank or your new old [TS]

00:32:35   thank you super training bank you still [TS]

00:32:36   feel like you need to kind of ride that [TS]

00:32:37   and monitor the relationship well it's [TS]

00:32:40   interesting because when I was at [TS]

00:32:44   Washington Mutual I didn't have enough [TS]

00:32:46   money coming and going that I had a [TS]

00:32:48   banker but I knew the tellers you know [TS]

00:32:52   I'd go in there and like hey cuz I it [TS]

00:32:55   was like the old style of banking those [TS]

00:32:58   people worked there for a long time and [TS]

00:33:00   you would go to posit your paycheck all [TS]

00:33:04   the time you would he'd go in there and [TS]

00:33:07   it was two blocks from where I work and [TS]

00:33:08   it was like part of your day go to the [TS]

00:33:10   bank that was part of the ritual like go [TS]

00:33:13   to the butcher shop go to the bank there [TS]

00:33:15   was like this is this certain like these [TS]

00:33:16   at least weekly errands that I was [TS]

00:33:19   compelled to attend as a kid that were [TS]

00:33:21   just like part of life go to the post [TS]

00:33:23   office yeah [TS]

00:33:24   right oh stop aside fire 13 cent stamps [TS]

00:33:27   most of his bank hardware store or [TS]

00:33:30   grocery store that was back when I [TS]

00:33:33   carried a little laminated card in my [TS]

00:33:35   wallet where I'd written down the phone [TS]

00:33:36   numbers of everyone I knew in tiny tiny [TS]

00:33:39   tiny little letters i smart then I [TS]

00:33:41   laminated it with scotch tape or with [TS]

00:33:44   packing tape it was like a piece of [TS]

00:33:46   paper and I would put packing tape over [TS]

00:33:48   you know this is we still had the [TS]

00:33:51   specter of nuclear war hanging over our [TS]

00:33:52   head we had to be ready to jump into a [TS]

00:33:53   bunker at any time oh I'm reading a book [TS]

00:33:56   right now about the United States [TS]

00:34:00   government's like the basically the cold [TS]

00:34:03   war strategy for continuity of [TS]

00:34:07   government and I'm the hole like where [TS]

00:34:11   the plan started during the Truman [TS]

00:34:13   administration like wait a minute [TS]

00:34:14   if the Russians were to drop a bomb on [TS]

00:34:18   the White House do we have a plan right [TS]

00:34:22   for that and the answer was no why would [TS]

00:34:25   we never had a plan like like like the [TS]

00:34:28   first I think that somewhere in the book [TS]

00:34:30   is a story like the first day of Harry [TS]

00:34:33   Truman's presidency after FDR died [TS]

00:34:37   they're like you're the president now [TS]

00:34:38   and he was like great I'm going to the [TS]

00:34:40   bank and he walked out the door of the [TS]

00:34:43   White House and started walking to the [TS]

00:34:45   bank where he had where he did his [TS]

00:34:47   banking and and the Secret Service was [TS]

00:34:52   like chasing after him and they shut [TS]

00:34:53   down the street and suddenly all of [TS]

00:34:55   Washington DC is like paralyzed because [TS]

00:34:58   the president like snuck out a side door [TS]

00:35:01   and went to the bank and didn't realize [TS]

00:35:05   or didn't factor in that he couldn't do [TS]

00:35:08   that he was already vice president how'd [TS]

00:35:10   he not know that but as vice president [TS]

00:35:12   in 19 in the 45 but like in the 40s like [TS]

00:35:18   just because he wasn't he wasn't FDR's [TS]

00:35:20   vice president until that that final [TS]

00:35:23   term right until 40 44 44 and up until [TS]

00:35:28   that point you know he'd been a senator [TS]

00:35:29   in it so wait a minute if he was elected [TS]

00:35:31   in 44 he came in January 45 so he'd only [TS]

00:35:34   been that was April when Roosevelt [TS]

00:35:37   thought it [TS]

00:35:38   he was he was vice president for two [TS]

00:35:39   months oh my goodness and then it's like [TS]

00:35:42   oh you're the president now I if I knew [TS]

00:35:44   that I forgot it that's super [TS]

00:35:45   interesting it's really interesting and [TS]

00:35:47   I think the story is that he can't that [TS]

00:35:51   he got a message like Harry come over to [TS]

00:35:53   the White House we need to talk to you [TS]

00:35:55   and he said huh that's weird [TS]

00:35:57   I've only seen the president twice since [TS]

00:36:01   the election I wonder why I wonder what [TS]

00:36:04   they want and he walked over to the [TS]

00:36:06   White House and Eleanor Roosevelt was [TS]

00:36:07   waiting for him oh my goodness [TS]

00:36:09   and she was like Harry you're the [TS]

00:36:10   president now and he's like shit I gotta [TS]

00:36:13   go to the bank until the middle of the [TS]

00:36:25   war there was no Secret Service [TS]

00:36:26   protection for the vice president they [TS]

00:36:28   didn't think it was necessary who would [TS]

00:36:30   bother so he just walked around and then [TS]

00:36:33   I think it was then they realized oh [TS]

00:36:35   wait a minute he's the next in line and [TS]

00:36:38   FDR could die any day we'd better put [TS]

00:36:41   we'd better give him two agents you know [TS]

00:36:43   to kind of make sure he doesn't get lost [TS]

00:36:45   and and and Truman there's more like [TS]

00:36:48   minders yeah and he was like get off me [TS]

00:36:50   you know you get out of here kid you're [TS]

00:36:52   bugging me but then he realized oh you [TS]

00:36:55   can't do that anymore Harry you're the [TS]

00:36:56   president but so this book yeah it's [TS]

00:36:59   about all of the secret you know grass [TS]

00:37:03   gradually and I I didn't know this [TS]

00:37:05   either but there was a whole period in [TS]

00:37:07   the late 40s early 50s where [TS]

00:37:09   conventional wisdom in the United States [TS]

00:37:12   seemed to be that our future as a [TS]

00:37:15   country was going to involve us [TS]

00:37:18   basically moving our industry [TS]

00:37:20   underground because of the threat of [TS]

00:37:23   nuclear war yeah yeah so that a [TS]

00:37:27   seemingly survivable nuclear war that [TS]

00:37:29   will let us continue to have milling [TS]

00:37:31   machines underground for perpetuity [TS]

00:37:32   that's right so they so government [TS]

00:37:35   agents went around and did an enormous [TS]

00:37:37   survey of all the caves in the United [TS]

00:37:40   States and they were like well let's see [TS]

00:37:43   if we just requisition all these caves [TS]

00:37:45   if we eminent domain all these caves and [TS]

00:37:47   we build like [TS]

00:37:50   General Mills I guess it's real this is [TS]

00:37:53   real dr. Strangelove in the mineshaft [TS]

00:37:55   gap was not so far off no no no they [TS]

00:37:58   were it was it was it there was a period [TS]

00:38:01   there and I think it was I think [TS]

00:38:04   depending on who you were talking to if [TS]

00:38:06   the period was either long or short I [TS]

00:38:08   think a lot of people in government who [TS]

00:38:10   had actually seen the pictures of her [TS]

00:38:12   Oshima were like oh wait a minute this [TS]

00:38:15   is a lot worse than we thought there's [TS]

00:38:17   nobody there's no surviving this yeah [TS]

00:38:19   but they didn't really they didn't [TS]

00:38:21   disseminate that to everybody and so [TS]

00:38:23   there were a lot of people running [TS]

00:38:24   around like well you know not just [TS]

00:38:28   building bomb shelters but but but [TS]

00:38:31   really envisioning that the entire [TS]

00:38:33   country was going to move out from the [TS]

00:38:36   cities get out of the center so that we [TS]

00:38:38   weren't as easy a target and sort of you [TS]

00:38:42   know like disseminate our business and [TS]

00:38:45   and and manufacturing sort of out into [TS]

00:38:50   the out into the woods the United States [TS]

00:38:52   basically becomes a series of Horcruxes [TS]

00:38:54   so we distribute everything and I've [TS]

00:38:59   seen that that movie where they were [TS]

00:39:00   sunglasses when they're watching Bikini [TS]

00:39:02   Atoll we should be pretty good to go we [TS]

00:39:03   dig a hole be hard it's three into [TS]

00:39:07   Oklahoma and everything will be fine [TS]

00:39:09   yeah there were actually real estate [TS]

00:39:11   advertisements at the time for houses in [TS]

00:39:14   upstate New York and southern Virginia [TS]

00:39:16   that we're like you know this is a [TS]

00:39:18   beautiful farm it's well outside the [TS]

00:39:20   blast zone oh my god was this also run [TS]

00:39:23   so I mean I there's gosh there's been so [TS]

00:39:25   much presidential stuff floating around [TS]

00:39:26   about just boy laws work like when did [TS]

00:39:29   it is it officially like a law a rule [TS]

00:39:32   policy for example that the President [TS]

00:39:34   and Vice President don't fly together [TS]

00:39:36   isn't that a thing so this happened [TS]

00:39:39   circus it's that era is this was that [TS]

00:39:41   era okay yeah that that that they [TS]

00:39:44   realized that the this is when they [TS]

00:39:47   developed those elaborate hierarchies [TS]

00:39:50   where you know I mean it's on it I think [TS]

00:39:53   it had always been that the that the [TS]

00:39:56   Speaker of the House ascended to the [TS]

00:39:58   presidency if you know that the [TS]

00:40:00   President and the Vice President were [TS]

00:40:01   finally codified like when interior [TS]

00:40:03   comes into the picture yeah and this [TS]

00:40:04   went all the way down to eventually what [TS]

00:40:07   happened was if the Secretary of [TS]

00:40:09   Interior dies there the guy that's [TS]

00:40:13   running the Tennessee Valley Authority [TS]

00:40:15   is next in line to become Secretary of [TS]

00:40:19   the Interior in the future [TS]

00:40:22   administration post apocalypse and [TS]

00:40:25   somewhere down the line there there's [TS]

00:40:27   like there's a list of succession that's [TS]

00:40:32   like 60 people deep like that's insane [TS]

00:40:35   like the mayor of Skokie Illinois [TS]

00:40:38   becomes the President of the United [TS]

00:40:40   States at some point if the 75 people [TS]

00:40:44   ahead of him in line are at we're all [TS]

00:40:46   vaporized and every single cabinet [TS]

00:40:51   member also has this train of potential [TS]

00:40:54   successors and in situations where the [TS]

00:40:57   US gets on a real war footing all of [TS]

00:41:00   those people know they're on that list [TS]

00:41:02   and they get some like like like some [TS]

00:41:07   telegram activating this like DEFCON 1 [TS]

00:41:13   thing that it actually has a name like [TS]

00:41:15   that like like con-com when when this [TS]

00:41:19   set of conditions occurs this plan goes [TS]

00:41:24   into action the word goes out we're now [TS]

00:41:25   in space White House mode right and some [TS]

00:41:29   of those people the Tennessee Valley [TS]

00:41:31   Authority person or the person that is [TS]

00:41:33   in charge of the Grand Coulee Dam like a [TS]

00:41:37   federal agent or someone else empowered [TS]

00:41:40   to do this shows up and becomes that [TS]

00:41:42   person's bodyguard like we need to [TS]

00:41:45   protect you sir like don't you can't go [TS]

00:41:48   to the bank today because you are a [TS]

00:41:51   forty second in line to be the Secretary [TS]

00:41:54   of Housing in human welfare or whatever [TS]

00:41:58   yeah so and so as the 50s wore on the [TS]

00:42:04   government became less and less [TS]

00:42:06   convinced and then less and less [TS]

00:42:07   interested in this project of putting [TS]

00:42:11   the American all of the American people [TS]

00:42:13   underground and all of our industry they [TS]

00:42:15   were like you know what [TS]

00:42:16   this isn't gonna work this is really [TS]

00:42:18   something very scalable no like Carl's [TS]

00:42:20   brought the bad Canyon's we could put [TS]

00:42:23   like it off you pretty I think it cave [TS]

00:42:26   is pretty moist John it's how its moist [TS]

00:42:28   it's disgusting it's dark it's there's [TS]

00:42:31   not much parking no and where the where [TS]

00:42:34   the potties where would you go where [TS]

00:42:35   would you go out to smoke [TS]

00:42:36   I'll think about that at the time that [TS]

00:42:39   would have been a big issue not a huge [TS]

00:42:41   issue what do you do you gonna go up the [TS]

00:42:42   mine chef's you're gonna ride an [TS]

00:42:43   elevator outside to have a but every 20 [TS]

00:42:45   minutes I'll tell you what I'll go up [TS]

00:42:46   your mind chef's fifties but so the [TS]

00:42:50   government did not abandon this project [TS]

00:42:52   when it came to themselves so they so [TS]

00:42:57   basically they as far as the American [TS]

00:42:59   people were concerned the government was [TS]

00:43:00   like let's do that civil defense thing [TS]

00:43:02   where we show them a lot of like [TS]

00:43:03   cartoons kids ducking and covering and [TS]

00:43:13   hey that was the extent of the plant oh [TS]

00:43:16   and they built the interstate highways I [TS]

00:43:17   guess in the internet and well [TS]

00:43:19   eventually I mean is that in the book [TS]

00:43:22   but isn't that at least the lore that I [TS]

00:43:25   always heard was that what we could [TS]

00:43:26   consider the Internet today started as a [TS]

00:43:27   DARPA project to be able to maintain [TS]

00:43:30   continuity of communication and [TS]

00:43:33   structure after some kind of a [TS]

00:43:35   devastating event yes right and that [TS]

00:43:38   whole problem that so I'm I'm not that [TS]

00:43:40   deep into the book but that all came [TS]

00:43:43   after they realized oh wait a minute [TS]

00:43:46   how are we going to like how are we [TS]

00:43:49   going to stay in contact with the [TS]

00:43:51   Department of the Navy if everything [TS]

00:43:53   blows up how are we going to stay in [TS]

00:43:54   contact with General Mills how are we [TS]

00:43:56   gonna get our Captain Crunch and little [TS]

00:43:58   by little you know they he got a you got [TS]

00:44:01   a field promotion he's a colonel now [TS]

00:44:02   Colonel crunch he'd be the captain is [TS]

00:44:16   like a colonel right he'd be Admiral [TS]

00:44:18   crime this is confusing so you think a [TS]

00:44:20   hot guy hot guys a captain with two bars [TS]

00:44:21   in the army but I believe a captain in [TS]

00:44:24   the Navy is like a [TS]

00:44:26   colonel or yeah full yeah full fuller [TS]

00:44:30   colonel that's right okay so come on [TS]

00:44:33   he'd become a would he become a [TS]

00:44:34   brigadier general he would become a rear [TS]

00:44:38   end he'd become rear admiral car things [TS]

00:44:49   but so they continued to build secret [TS]

00:44:53   installations for government people to [TS]

00:44:56   survive the war caves and and [TS]

00:44:59   underground bunkers not just the one [TS]

00:45:02   from war games but like all over every [TS]

00:45:04   single state has an underground bunker [TS]

00:45:06   for the government people to escape to [TS]

00:45:10   and all these elaborate plans and they [TS]

00:45:13   have they have secret laminated cards [TS]

00:45:15   that have not only the numbers of all [TS]

00:45:17   their friends written on them but also [TS]

00:45:19   dr. Strangelove were written and [TS]

00:45:21   directed by Wes Anderson yeah right you [TS]

00:45:24   get walkie-talkies you get laminated [TS]

00:45:26   cards you get cool uniforms oh I bet I [TS]

00:45:29   bet those what what is it's that [TS]

00:45:31   Terminator movie the third one where [TS]

00:45:33   they find that that bunker in the [TS]

00:45:35   mountain right isn't that the third time [TS]

00:45:37   I don't acknowledge that movie but that [TS]

00:45:39   sounds like it could be right so and [TS]

00:45:41   they go in and and the whole thing is [TS]

00:45:44   decorated super mid-century multum at [TS]

00:45:50   bachelor pad right right it's like it's [TS]

00:45:54   like it's like the Playboy Mansion [TS]

00:45:55   except like hardened against the ground [TS]

00:45:58   has a real grotto and does that come in [TS]

00:45:59   it okay no but it has a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:46:02   hanging moss that came from the sweat [TS]

00:46:04   and cigarette smoke of all those people [TS]

00:46:06   in there coughing there'd be in that [TS]

00:46:10   cave that wet air those pall malls farts [TS]

00:46:21   have you been recently to a hotel that [TS]

00:46:25   has not been upgraded from from times of [TS]

00:46:30   your well I feel like I got I think you [TS]

00:46:34   told I told you my sad tale of woe where [TS]

00:46:35   I got stuck in [TS]

00:46:37   where was I anyway I recently got stuck [TS]

00:46:40   somewhere my flight got canceled had to [TS]

00:46:41   stay overnight and you know I'm a [TS]

00:46:42   Marriott man they put me up in a [TS]

00:46:43   Marriott and I think it was that rare [TS]

00:46:47   thing where I was in this Marriott [TS]

00:46:48   probably right at the end of the cycle [TS]

00:46:50   where the furniture is a little [TS]

00:46:52   oversized and like brown wood and stuff [TS]

00:46:55   it hadn't gotten that light look that [TS]

00:46:57   you see in most hotels today right yeah [TS]

00:46:59   yeah yeah I mean it always strikes me [TS]

00:47:01   how much especially given how many [TS]

00:47:03   basically old like disused SROs get [TS]

00:47:06   turned into hotels now like it's weird [TS]

00:47:08   what gets attention and what gets [TS]

00:47:09   upgraded but yeah most of them seem like [TS]

00:47:11   they've gotten an upgrade in the last [TS]

00:47:12   10-15 years but do you still get [TS]

00:47:14   somewhere there's like also the one you [TS]

00:47:16   were at in San Francisco where there's [TS]

00:47:17   bits of carpeting that had been replaced [TS]

00:47:18   because probably blood total it's that [TS]

00:47:21   was a total SRO a classic a classic [TS]

00:47:24   hotel that probably until recently [TS]

00:47:27   sure-sure down to a shared bathroom [TS]

00:47:29   right well the rooms had bathrooms and [TS]

00:47:33   and looked like bathrooms that had been [TS]

00:47:35   there a long time but but almost [TS]

00:47:38   certainly almost certainly 25 years ago [TS]

00:47:42   if you walk down the halls of those of [TS]

00:47:44   those floors it would smell like fried [TS]

00:47:46   fish because people had that is not a [TS]

00:47:58   very friendly thing to fry in an SRO oh [TS]

00:48:01   my goodness oh my gosh she's gonna cling [TS]

00:48:03   to every fiber and it's not gonna it's [TS]

00:48:05   gonna be like close to like a bait fish [TS]

00:48:07   quality probably like a lightly saute [TS]

00:48:10   column and I've looked in it enough in [TS]

00:48:20   enough doorways at a guy in an [TS]

00:48:22   undershirt you know when I was 22 or [TS]

00:48:33   whatever I didn't realize that the world [TS]

00:48:36   was gonna change yeah cuz this looked [TS]

00:48:38   like what did it what I what it looked [TS]

00:48:41   like in the 50s you know until then [TS]

00:48:42   until the 90s there were still in babies [TS]

00:48:49   [Music] [TS]

00:48:51   but there were always like old guys in [TS]

00:48:53   undershirts fryin fish on hot plates in [TS]

00:48:55   single that would always be true I [TS]

00:49:00   didn't realize that all those hotels [TS]

00:49:02   would become a so tells and I just look [TS]

00:49:06   at my phone trying to find where were we [TS]

00:49:08   where were we when I met the guy from TV [TS]

00:49:12   and we hung out and you got the nice [TS]

00:49:14   room and I got the not nice room was [TS]

00:49:15   that was that Portland guy from TV TV [TS]

00:49:19   with the jaw I like James oh sure James [TS]

00:49:24   Urbaniak I like that guy yeah that was [TS]

00:49:27   the that was a classic hotel comedy but [TS]

00:49:51   don't you be putting the bones down the [TS]

00:49:53   sink that was the hotel room where I [TS]

00:49:56   opened the door one time in there just a [TS]

00:49:59   mystery well there was a single [TS]

00:50:01   walkie-talkie lying in the center of the [TS]

00:50:03   room I was like the beginning of an [TS]

00:50:05   adventure and mine looked like I don't [TS]

00:50:08   know like an updated version of the [TS]

00:50:09   prisoner it was it was like it was a [TS]

00:50:11   very very tidy cell yeah yeah put a TV [TS]

00:50:16   in a hotel room John well because Lingus [TS]

00:50:21   is that what it is like there's no place [TS]

00:50:23   there's nope there's no drawers you can [TS]

00:50:24   only hang your clothes basically you get [TS]

00:50:27   throw pillows and kind of Lingus that's [TS]

00:50:28   the whole thing right you go in there [TS]

00:50:29   you're gonna wash your hands you might [TS]

00:50:31   well sure you might want to brush your [TS]

00:50:32   teeth but like is it because young [TS]

00:50:33   people have so much sex they just want [TS]

00:50:35   to get on the bed is that what it is cuz [TS]

00:50:36   the bed is real central to the room no I [TS]

00:50:39   think you come in you put yeah here's [TS]

00:50:41   what you do you take your your dynamic [TS]

00:50:44   abag you set it down you pull out your [TS]

00:50:46   can of mustache wax cotton can of hair [TS]

00:50:50   wax you can of eyebrow wax your hogs fat [TS]

00:50:53   hair tonic you you untie your [TS]

00:50:56   [Music] [TS]

00:51:01   the next thing it's gonna be oh sheikh [TS]

00:51:04   is good artisanal handcrafted [TS]

00:51:09   bindle yeah you let your hair deal it's [TS]

00:51:13   gonna be your source neckerchief tied [TS]

00:51:16   around an artisanal responsibly sourced [TS]

00:51:20   stick that's right that's right well [TS]

00:51:22   yeah like a like like a renewable stick [TS]

00:51:26   renewables it's gonna be like that a [TS]

00:51:28   hardwood flooring site on NPR it's gonna [TS]

00:51:30   be all recovered hobo sticks that's [TS]

00:51:32   right holy sticks that they found in a [TS]

00:51:33   pile at the big hobo mass it's like it [TS]

00:51:36   reduce like you don't you don't make a [TS]

00:51:37   didgeridoo you find a didgeridoo okay so [TS]

00:51:42   you go in the room you're ready for some [TS]

00:51:43   kind of Lingus you take out your bindle [TS]

00:51:44   you got so here was the philosophy [TS]

00:51:47   initially you remember initially you [TS]

00:51:50   first heard of boutique hotels well and [TS]

00:51:55   artisanal anything oh okay right we're [TS]

00:51:58   going all the way back workers set the [TS]

00:51:59   set the Wayback Machine to all the way [TS]

00:52:01   back to the first time you heard the [TS]

00:52:04   word artisanal bread okay right all [TS]

00:52:09   right now hearing about we actually have [TS]

00:52:11   a loaf in our refrigerator right now [TS]

00:52:13   that says artisan bread then I think [TS]

00:52:15   bread if memory serves is the first [TS]

00:52:17   thing where I heard somebody use that [TS]

00:52:18   where they didn't mean like you're an [TS]

00:52:19   artisan making wagon wheels you're not a [TS]

00:52:21   Cooper you're not a Fletcher right an [TS]

00:52:24   artisan bread right okay I think the [TS]

00:52:28   first time I don't remember the first [TS]

00:52:29   time I heard the word art artisanal but [TS]

00:52:33   I do [TS]

00:52:33   well the first time I'm saying was from [TS]

00:52:35   you but I think I think I've really [TS]

00:52:38   given that one some legs you sure did [TS]

00:52:41   yeah I think the first time you said it [TS]

00:52:44   I had I had about 30 seconds of like [TS]

00:52:47   very slow thinking where I was like what [TS]

00:52:59   but but so I dated I dated a gal in the [TS]

00:53:03   90s who was part of that whole I've told [TS]

00:53:05   you about her who was part of that whole [TS]

00:53:06   take find jeans in Montana for 50 cents [TS]

00:53:11   bring them to Seattle fine [TS]

00:53:13   like old jeans for 50 cents at thrift [TS]

00:53:17   stores in Montana bring them to Seattle [TS]

00:53:18   sell them to a broker from Japan for [TS]

00:53:22   $1,500 [TS]

00:53:23   he will take those jeans to Japan and [TS]

00:53:27   sell them for $15,000 really early on in [TS]

00:53:32   this case pants minor she was and I know [TS]

00:53:36   a guy who was a literal pants prospector [TS]

00:53:38   and he made a fortune he bought himself [TS]

00:53:41   a house just driving around Montana in [TS]

00:53:44   that weird era where all these old guys [TS]

00:53:48   were dying their old buckle back Levi's [TS]

00:53:51   were going to the goodwill and and you [TS]

00:53:55   could drive around and just go to good [TS]

00:53:56   wills and just flip through stuff and be [TS]

00:53:58   like oh check out these jeans they're [TS]

00:53:59   worth $20,000 and I don't want to break [TS]

00:54:05   the goof here how far off is that really [TS]

00:54:08   how much were they were they charging [TS]

00:54:09   for jeans in Japan like over $1,000 [TS]

00:54:11   sometimes up to five figures and you got [TS]

00:54:17   some really authentic 60s made in the [TS]

00:54:20   USA a Jefferson Airplane era Levi's in [TS]

00:54:23   the right condition with the right [TS]

00:54:25   what's called Hin gauging J jeans okay [TS]

00:54:28   he gave you're gonna you're gonna be [TS]

00:54:29   able to move that up to five figures I [TS]

00:54:31   mean right now if you find a pair of of [TS]

00:54:36   sixties biggie Levi's you can sell them [TS]

00:54:41   online for good good money but there was [TS]

00:54:49   there was a bubble in that market just [TS]

00:54:51   like there was a time when when a 1959 [TS]

00:54:57   Les Paul I mean there were 59 Les Paul's [TS]

00:54:59   that were selling for a million dollars [TS]

00:55:01   that's not true oh I see bubble yes yes [TS]

00:55:04   said you know what yes yes yes yes [TS]

00:55:06   they're like a tulip type situation yeah [TS]

00:55:08   so there was a while where it felt like [TS]

00:55:11   so yeah right here I have a pair of [TS]

00:55:15   vintage 50's biggie Levi's for $5,500 Oh [TS]

00:55:19   jiminy on Etsy we've got let's see [TS]

00:55:26   now those are from nineteen so this pair [TS]

00:55:28   of jeans from 1987 is $250 like this [TS]

00:55:33   world still exists there's a nice pair [TS]

00:55:37   of vintage men's Levi's xx great [TS]

00:55:39   acid-wash jeans mmm they're after $4.99 [TS]

00:55:42   so you can just pick those right up [TS]

00:55:43   acid-wash jeans can you believe that 32 [TS]

00:55:46   36 that's a slender to kind of taller [TS]

00:55:48   fella but there were these but but the [TS]

00:55:52   even older Levi's the ones that had like [TS]

00:55:54   a buckle in the back okay were were [TS]

00:56:00   super prized among the the like fashion [TS]

00:56:03   cognoscenti in Tokyo and and I don't [TS]

00:56:09   think you can still get that kind of [TS]

00:56:10   money but this friend of mine who did [TS]

00:56:12   this work who drove around Montana he [TS]

00:56:14   said I have my retirement and my like my [TS]

00:56:19   escape bag mice might keep a small bag [TS]

00:56:22   packed yeah under my bed I have two [TS]

00:56:25   pairs of jeans in this bag that if I [TS]

00:56:29   need to I can live off of he sure [TS]

00:56:33   wouldn't trust it to a bank no it's [TS]

00:56:35   under his bed you know there's a famous [TS]

00:56:37   story of a woman that was out in the [TS]

00:56:39   outing the sort of outside of Sacramento [TS]

00:56:42   and she was just out in the gold country [TS]

00:56:45   they call it gold country and she found [TS]

00:56:47   a mineshaft that was just sort of open [TS]

00:56:50   and she walked in just touristing you [TS]

00:56:54   know just like pooping around boopity [TS]

00:56:55   boop and kind of walked into the mine a [TS]

00:56:59   little bit maybe further than you would [TS]

00:57:01   do if you weren't bold and turned a [TS]

00:57:05   corner and there was a table and there [TS]

00:57:07   was a pair of jeans on them that were [TS]

00:57:10   like a old patch two pair of jeans and [TS]

00:57:12   she pulled him out of there and was like [TS]

00:57:13   oh look at these you know look at these [TS]

00:57:15   old great jeans and they'd been patched [TS]

00:57:17   and whatnot and she brought him out and [TS]

00:57:19   they're the oldest pair of Levi's like [TS]

00:57:23   oldest surviving pair the oldest pair no [TS]

00:57:26   one at Levi's had ever seen them and she [TS]

00:57:29   brought them in and they became like [TS]

00:57:32   these talismanic pants that [TS]

00:57:36   you know that were just the earth right [TS]

00:57:41   right but so that was my first [TS]

00:57:44   experience of understanding that there [TS]

00:57:47   was value in something that wasn't an [TS]

00:57:50   antique but was you know like a soft [TS]

00:57:55   good and it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't [TS]

00:57:59   clear where the value actually was other [TS]

00:58:02   than scarcity I guess scarcity also it's [TS]

00:58:05   interesting how I mean guess this is [TS]

00:58:06   obvious but it also sets a new bar in [TS]

00:58:08   some ways where you think about like oh [TS]

00:58:10   wow it's almost like breaking a record [TS]

00:58:13   right like where somebody breaks a [TS]

00:58:14   record and breaks it by like more than [TS]

00:58:16   5% you're like wow we're capable of much [TS]

00:58:19   more than we realized [TS]

00:58:20   and so that might kind of reset the [TS]

00:58:22   market a little bit cuz now people can [TS]

00:58:23   go oh are there more of these out there [TS]

00:58:24   should we should we go a little bit [TS]

00:58:26   deeper into the cave and see if there's [TS]

00:58:27   some special pants that's exactly right [TS]

00:58:29   and I remember sitting at her because I [TS]

00:58:30   would sit and watch her do her job and [TS]

00:58:32   people would come in with a big stack of [TS]

00:58:33   Levi's did you get bring it I for that [TS]

00:58:36   oh you get a really good eye and she had [TS]

00:58:38   this she already had that that attitude [TS]

00:58:41   you know she had really really dark [TS]

00:58:43   brown hair and she dyed it black she [TS]

00:58:45   dyed it black for no reason like it was [TS]

00:58:47   already as brown as brown could be and [TS]

00:58:50   she was like black dark dark red [TS]

00:59:00   lipstick and she would sit and smoke [TS]

00:59:02   cigarettes behind the counter where she [TS]

00:59:03   worked and people would say I got all [TS]

00:59:05   these Levi's and she would she would [TS]

00:59:07   flip through them with such disdain [TS]

00:59:10   we're so attracted this woman I haven't [TS]

00:59:12   met the person on the other side would [TS]

00:59:15   just feel so bad for themselves for [TS]

00:59:17   bringing this stack of jeans down to her [TS]

00:59:19   and thanks but no thanks for these but I [TS]

00:59:29   will take this pair and you're just like [TS]

00:59:32   wow she was one of those people that had [TS]

00:59:34   the ability to go to a thrift store buy [TS]

00:59:37   a puffy coat and make it seem like it [TS]

00:59:39   was from the future mm-hmm it's like how [TS]

00:59:41   did you make that seem like it's from [TS]

00:59:43   the future that's like a mom coat from [TS]

00:59:44   1981 and she's just like I don't know [TS]

00:59:46   man that's a gift yeah why are you [TS]

00:59:48   talking to me and it's like I'm your [TS]

00:59:49   boyfriend yeah yeah I'm an idol to talk [TS]

00:59:51   to you but so I think the premise as we [TS]

00:59:58   moved into the whole thing [TS]

00:59:58   moved into the whole thing [TS]

01:00:00   like well these boots admittedly these [TS]

01:00:03   boots are $500 the premise was that [TS]

01:00:07   you'd only need one pair right mm-hmm [TS]

01:00:10   right it was it was that yes things that [TS]

01:00:13   are made in America things that are made [TS]

01:00:15   by hand are gonna be a lot more [TS]

01:00:17   expensive this is how you get to the [TS]

01:00:19   artisan thing you're here this is how [TS]

01:00:20   you get okay so it's gonna be a lot more [TS]

01:00:22   expensive but where you're already used [TS]

01:00:25   to paying thirty five hundred dollars [TS]

01:00:26   for a pair of baggy jeans if you're [TS]

01:00:28   anybody you're just making that mental [TS]

01:00:32   transition you're not gonna have seven [TS]

01:00:34   pairs of these boots you're gonna have [TS]

01:00:37   one mm-hm and then just sit with that [TS]

01:00:40   for a second you're just gonna need one [TS]

01:00:42   just one just one it's gonna be very [TS]

01:00:46   expensive but it's all you need is the [TS]

01:00:50   one it's like finding the one true beard [TS]

01:00:52   go yeah yeah that's all you need you're [TS]

01:00:56   gonna have one can of mustache wax not [TS]

01:00:58   four and that idea like I remember it [TS]

01:01:05   kind of reverberating it actually it it [TS]

01:01:10   hit the top pair of Levi's in the stack [TS]

01:01:13   of 40 pairs of Levi's I hadn't had [TS]

01:01:14   reverberating all the way down to the [TS]

01:01:16   bottom and I was like wait I only need [TS]

01:01:18   one pair of Levi's I think that's wrong [TS]

01:01:20   I think I need all these maybe I don't [TS]

01:01:23   need all these Levi's right but I [TS]

01:01:25   definitely need more than one pair and [TS]

01:01:27   then that was all of a sudden there was [TS]

01:01:29   denim that was made at the that the [TS]

01:01:31   white cone mill in being oz back [TS]

01:01:34   Tennessee or whatever in roz but [TS]

01:01:36   whatever [TS]

01:01:36   Carolina it's like oh man these jeans [TS]

01:01:39   are five hundred dollars but you only [TS]

01:01:41   need one yeah jeans are tough now if [TS]

01:01:45   it's a top hat one one really nice [TS]

01:01:55   artisanal time pad yeah don't wonder [TS]

01:01:58   from a small batch Tennessee top but I [TS]

01:02:02   think when they check into those [TS]

01:02:04   fisherman's hotel it's all coming [TS]

01:02:08   together now you know what it would be [TS]

01:02:10   embarrassing don't don't embarrass me [TS]

01:02:12   don't embarrass [TS]

01:02:13   self by giving me the fucking drawers [TS]

01:02:15   what am I gonna put in drawers I have [TS]

01:02:17   one pair of pants on the top hat yeah [TS]

01:02:18   you open the door to your room [TS]

01:02:20   there's no TV there's a walkie-talkie on [TS]

01:02:22   the floor there's two hangers and [TS]

01:02:23   there's a little Larry source neatly [TS]

01:02:26   sourced hangers locally-sourced hangers [TS]

01:02:28   that are carved out of out of [TS]

01:02:29   prehistoric whale bone uh-huh [TS]

01:02:31   you hang your one jacket that cost [TS]

01:02:34   $1,200 on it you put your artisanal [TS]

01:02:37   boots on the floor and then you lay back [TS]

01:02:40   and read your artisanal book you know [TS]

01:02:42   anyone you don't take a few jacket your [TS]

01:02:45   jacket is one of those like bandleader [TS]

01:02:46   ones right there's there's no jacket [TS]

01:02:48   required you're walking around you're [TS]

01:03:00   one pair of pants you get your band well [TS]

01:03:01   what do you call that kind of jacket [TS]

01:03:02   like an atom and jacket there's a name [TS]

01:03:03   for that yeah I would say it was the it [TS]

01:03:07   was the what is the Buddhists ik guy [TS]

01:03:09   what is he called he's the covered this [TS]

01:03:11   damn ant vest [TS]

01:03:15   what's the address best called it's a [TS]

01:03:17   collar jacket you got the knot [TS]

01:03:21   bandleader it's good it's a sergeant [TS]

01:03:24   major the something major the drum major [TS]

01:03:27   yeah but there's a name for that [TS]

01:03:30   particular vest you talked about the one [TS]

01:03:33   with the multiple but the Frog ings and [TS]

01:03:36   stuff on it and they got the Frog in his [TS]

01:03:38   waistcoat they call it a waistcoat in [TS]

01:03:40   England to make it even more confusing [TS]

01:03:41   how they do oh man there's so much [TS]

01:03:44   vintage out of man stuff look at all of [TS]

01:03:45   this you can get it Bonaparte hat [TS]

01:03:51   we call him Bonaparte cause we're still [TS]

01:03:53   mad at me we're against him we're [TS]

01:03:56   against him not for it I'm the one that [TS]

01:04:00   needs to adjust I need to get out of [TS]

01:04:01   this mindset I have I'm gonna bring [TS]

01:04:03   seven pairs of me undies for the two [TS]

01:04:04   days that I'm there I need one pair of [TS]

01:04:06   underwear I need one grand master jacket [TS]

01:04:08   with frogging x' a 31 top hat and even [TS]

01:04:11   though I don't have a mustache I should [TS]

01:04:12   probably bring some some mustache soils [TS]

01:04:15   you can use it on your eyebrows okay if [TS]

01:04:17   you get one of those pairs of Mac weld [TS]

01:04:19   and silver Underpants yeah those aren't [TS]

01:04:21   cheap but you can wear those day in and [TS]

01:04:22   day out because the silver will [TS]

01:04:24   anesthetize the buck [TS]

01:04:26   the antimicrobial silver add the [TS]

01:04:27   microbial yeah our thanks to hellofresh [TS]

01:04:30   for supporting this episode of Roderick [TS]

01:04:32   on the line hello fresh hello yeah [TS]

01:04:35   Froggy's I I was in the market for this [TS]

01:04:39   kind of thing not very long ago as I was [TS]

01:04:41   compiling my King Neptune outfit yeah [TS]

01:04:44   and I contacted a man in Canada because [TS]

01:04:48   what I really wanted was a jacket from [TS]

01:04:51   the Royal Canadian Mounted Police but [TS]

01:04:55   what I learned is that the Royal [TS]

01:04:57   Canadian Mounted Police iconic red [TS]

01:05:00   jacket is not only copyrighted by the [TS]

01:05:04   Royal Canadian Mounted Police but you [TS]

01:05:07   never owned your Mountie jacket when [TS]

01:05:11   you're a Mountie you are only in Lent [TS]

01:05:14   you're just inhabiting it for the for [TS]

01:05:16   the role for the that's right [TS]

01:05:17   because duty the jacket is is sacrosanct [TS]

01:05:23   and just like the way you refer to the [TS]

01:05:27   Queen you've got the Queen but the Queen [TS]

01:05:29   is different from the throne right and [TS]

01:05:32   you got a pope but that's different than [TS]

01:05:33   the Vatican or the papacy there's this [TS]

01:05:36   thing that's bigger than you that you're [TS]

01:05:37   just inhabitant in that case it's a red [TS]

01:05:38   coat yeah you got the Pope over here [TS]

01:05:40   yeah it's like getting a soup right the [TS]

01:05:44   jacket the the emblem of the Mounties is [TS]

01:05:48   is a thing that when you're done being a [TS]

01:05:52   Mountie you give the jacket back so you [TS]

01:05:56   don't see Canadian punk rockers out [TS]

01:05:59   rolling around in old Mountie jackets [TS]

01:06:01   with the big energy it's not like West [TS]

01:06:03   Germany green jackets that are just [TS]

01:06:05   everywhere no it's not and so I am I was [TS]

01:06:09   up in the Canadian internet I don't know [TS]

01:06:13   if you've ever been to it that's the [TS]

01:06:16   dossier [TS]

01:06:16   yeah and it's um but you know there's [TS]

01:06:18   it's almost like a fully functioning [TS]

01:06:21   internet up that's a lot friendlier [TS]

01:06:23   but I'm up there and I'm like look I [TS]

01:06:24   want one of these and they're like sorry [TS]

01:06:26   hmm and then I found a guy outside of [TS]

01:06:31   Ottawa who as far as I could tell lives [TS]

01:06:35   in a shipping container okay and he's a [TS]

01:06:38   very friendly man he actually wanted to [TS]

01:06:40   talk on the phone quite a bit and [TS]

01:06:42   because he was helping me I indulged him [TS]

01:06:46   in this and I spoke to him on the phone [TS]

01:06:49   for a long time and heard all about his [TS]

01:06:52   many adventures driving a truck in the [TS]

01:06:54   Yukon Territories and living in a big [TS]

01:06:57   house with a lot of friends that he [TS]

01:06:59   doesn't have anymore [TS]

01:07:00   but one thing he does have is a small [TS]

01:07:03   collection of jackets which were used in [TS]

01:07:06   the Royal Canadian Mounted Police [TS]

01:07:09   Academy oh pretty good and they are in a [TS]

01:07:15   lot of ways fancier than Royal Canadian [TS]

01:07:20   Mounted Police [TS]

01:07:21   normal tunics they're called tunics by [TS]

01:07:24   the way okay [TS]

01:07:25   and because they're like cadet jackets [TS]

01:07:29   right it's not like you're the rank and [TS]

01:07:31   file these are the these are the [TS]

01:07:32   hotshots so they've got a lot of gold [TS]

01:07:33   braids on them and I don't even know if [TS]

01:07:36   the if that Academy still makes them [TS]

01:07:39   wear these jackets but somehow the fact [TS]

01:07:42   that they were cadet jackets meant that [TS]

01:07:44   there was a loophole and he had some and [TS]

01:07:48   I wanted that also you're you're not as [TS]

01:07:53   far as I know Canadian so are you are [TS]

01:07:54   you on or bound are you stealing [TS]

01:07:56   Canadian valour by wearing that because [TS]

01:07:58   it seems to me if you're from a [TS]

01:07:59   different country you should be able to [TS]

01:08:00   get the real deal well but this is the [TS]

01:08:02   thing they're not letting him go they're [TS]

01:08:05   not letting him go the scarcity begins [TS]

01:08:07   scarcity yeah you serve at the pleasure [TS]

01:08:09   of the President [TS]

01:08:10   Yeah right like gifts for the Queen who [TS]

01:08:12   works for the crown it's all that it's [TS]

01:08:14   all that stuff all that stuff that [TS]

01:08:16   government stuff that my dad used to [TS]

01:08:17   have around when he was working for the [TS]

01:08:19   federal government that would say like [TS]

01:08:21   when you're done using this pencil [TS]

01:08:22   return it to the federal government [TS]

01:08:24   [Music] [TS]

01:08:26   anyway so this guy very unusual person [TS]

01:08:29   and and these jackets had an unusual [TS]

01:08:32   sizing system and he and I were [TS]

01:08:33   negotiating [TS]

01:08:35   what what jackets he had and he I said [TS]

01:08:38   listen just send me the biggest tallest [TS]

01:08:41   one you have I know there are big tall [TS]

01:08:43   Mounties but I'm not willing to take [TS]

01:08:46   chances so send me the biggest tallest [TS]

01:08:49   one you have well the jacket arrived and [TS]

01:08:51   it was neither big nor tall but it was [TS]

01:08:55   the biggest one he had and so what I [TS]

01:08:57   have Merlin is a mount is a of 60s Royal [TS]

01:09:01   Canadian Mounted Police Academy jacket [TS]

01:09:04   how long is it well I think it would fit [TS]

01:09:08   you perfectly oh my god but I don't want [TS]

01:09:11   to give you things that you don't want [TS]

01:09:13   right because because there are all [TS]

01:09:16   these people trying to give you things [TS]

01:09:17   you don't want I have a whole closet [TS]

01:09:19   full of things I'm supposed to give you [TS]

01:09:20   at some point but here is this thing if [TS]

01:09:23   you wore this around you would be so [TS]

01:09:25   adamant fancy there's no one in America [TS]

01:09:28   that has one it's called a hazhar a [TS]

01:09:30   huzzah search for hu s SAR hu s s AR but [TS]

01:09:37   isn't aren't I gonna get a bunch of Hot [TS]

01:09:38   Topic stuff here no I think you'll be [TS]

01:09:46   safe I think it's hard to knowing you [TS]

01:09:48   know your Google is not my Google your [TS]

01:09:49   grandma is not my grandma you know so so [TS]

01:09:52   try try try googling it and then you get [TS]

01:09:53   some mannequin in a hussar Oh hussar [TS]

01:09:57   Azhar it looks like for fifteen hundred [TS]

01:09:59   dollars you can get this one Napoleonic [TS]

01:10:02   Wars Dolman [TS]

01:10:03   it's a French hussar Dolman more [TS]

01:10:06   specific Sha Tsui I just literally this [TS]

01:10:10   week really [TS]

01:10:11   Dolman is the kind of sleeve I learned [TS]

01:10:12   about on Project Runway Dolman is a kind [TS]

01:10:15   of sleeve you can you learn about on [TS]

01:10:16   Project Runway I'll be kind of sleep you [TS]

01:10:18   learned about on Project Runway hussar [TS]

01:10:20   hazhar as how did you learn about it and [TS]

01:10:23   why oh because they were talking about [TS]

01:10:25   making a Dolman sleeve and they said [TS]

01:10:26   they're kind of tired of seeing that [TS]

01:10:27   look and they want to see them doing [TS]

01:10:28   something else it's not in black what is [TS]

01:10:30   a Dolman sleeve I think it's where it's [TS]

01:10:33   part of the eyes I don't know exactly [TS]

01:10:35   but I'm not gonna look it up because I [TS]

01:10:37   don't screw up my search history I got [TS]

01:10:38   his are in there I don't wanna mess [TS]

01:10:39   myself up I think it's when you gotta [TS]

01:10:40   front to back and the sleeve is implied [TS]

01:10:42   by the general shape of the garment it's [TS]

01:10:44   not like a separate sleeve that you sew [TS]

01:10:46   on whyphy and now I'll find out if I'm [TS]

01:10:48   right [TS]

01:10:48   what is it called Dolman Dolman now why [TS]

01:10:52   did I not know but was the problem with [TS]

01:10:54   the problem is that there's a lot of [TS]

01:10:56   steampunk overlap here hmm and the [TS]

01:11:00   steampunk overlap anytime I'm walking [TS]

01:11:04   through the world and I walk into any [TS]

01:11:06   kind of Venn diagram that is like [TS]

01:11:10   overlapping a steampunk Venn diagram I [TS]

01:11:12   tread very carefully it's a little bit [TS]

01:11:15   like Juggalos where like there's a [TS]

01:11:17   certain amount where you have like a [TS]

01:11:18   kind of awe and respect but you don't [TS]

01:11:20   you don't necessarily want to be a [TS]

01:11:22   Juggalo you've got to be careful that [TS]

01:11:24   you just state Juggalo adjacent yeah [TS]

01:11:26   right and and with steampunk like I like [TS]

01:11:28   leather [TS]

01:11:29   I like brass sure I like gold braids you [TS]

01:11:31   would love to have a leather typewriter [TS]

01:11:33   I like little tinker II things yesterday [TS]

01:11:36   I was at one of those I was walking [TS]

01:11:38   through one of those little towns where [TS]

01:11:41   the and it's a here in Washington it's a [TS]

01:11:43   little town on the ocean that has a [TS]

01:11:46   store that's basically selling old [TS]

01:11:48   fishing net there's a guy was literally [TS]

01:11:50   a corncob pipe that's meant selling old [TS]

01:11:53   net but then but then the town is is [TS]

01:11:57   trying to decide whether it wants to get [TS]

01:11:58   fancy or not or whether it even can get [TS]

01:12:00   fancy okay [TS]

01:12:01   and so there's a little store where [TS]

01:12:03   there's a guy selling cigars but he also [TS]

01:12:05   sells like nada que Lea hmm and I can [TS]

01:12:10   put that up in your seaman's hotel I [TS]

01:12:12   can't resist it right so I'm in there [TS]

01:12:14   I'm looking at old barometers and I'm [TS]

01:12:17   like how many barometers can a person [TS]

01:12:18   have in their house but you get some [TS]

01:12:20   really nice giant ass compasses you get [TS]

01:12:23   big compasses right nautical nice [TS]

01:12:25   nautical compasses really polished [TS]

01:12:28   really you know like I said like I want [TS]

01:12:31   a sextant I don't even know why oh you [TS]

01:12:33   could use a sextant I bet you could pick [TS]

01:12:35   that up in a weekend but this is really [TS]

01:12:37   reckoning distances like by Sunday what [TS]

01:12:40   I don't want though is to have a chance [TS]

01:12:43   to have more stuff in my house that is [TS]

01:12:44   steampunk adjacent because I already [TS]

01:12:46   have a lot oh yeah yeah yeah you know [TS]

01:12:49   when you put it all into one place [TS]

01:12:51   yeah tells a different story than you [TS]

01:12:52   want to tell so I find this walk give a [TS]

01:12:55   deep sea diving suit no okay have you [TS]

01:12:57   ever wondered what it's no real a suit [TS]

01:12:59   no no no no no really it's too big [TS]

01:13:01   well too big okay do I want one yes but [TS]

01:13:04   am I too claustrophobic [TS]

01:13:06   yes oh I just meant to hang there no but [TS]

01:13:09   if it was there I would want to put it [TS]

01:13:10   on put it on a panic attack put it back [TS]

01:13:22   you might be like I gotta put that on [TS]

01:13:26   act of steampunk self-immolation I have [TS]

01:13:30   12 different Stetson fedoras and I would [TS]

01:13:34   never wear one outside but I wear them [TS]

01:13:36   around the house all day now and I'll [TS]

01:13:42   see another I'll see a fedora like [TS]

01:13:44   across the room and I'm wearing one and [TS]

01:13:46   I'll walk over and I'll take the one I [TS]

01:13:47   have on off and all the place oh the [TS]

01:13:49   other one too [TS]

01:13:52   you gotta have two threes too two is one [TS]

01:13:55   one is none you know like I want a [TS]

01:13:57   shoulder holster yeah what I really [TS]

01:14:02   wearing it wearing my pistol under my [TS]

01:14:04   blender my Levi's best in case you got a [TS]

01:14:06   pistol with a punk but I realized I [TS]

01:14:09   think probably back then that and and [TS]

01:14:11   then this entire show the entire history [TS]

01:14:14   of Roderick on the line all points to [TS]

01:14:16   one thing which is that I should never [TS]

01:14:18   ever ever carry a concealed weapon [TS]

01:14:22   interesting because I'm an eight I'm a [TS]

01:14:25   natural-born Sheriff hmm and all those [TS]

01:14:28   dummies out there carrying you know like [TS]

01:14:31   carrying pistols are all and it was a [TS]

01:14:34   lot of are not even officers they're not [TS]

01:14:36   at all they think of themselves as [TS]

01:14:38   sheriff's too but the problem is I know [TS]

01:14:40   I'm a sheriff and if I was carrying a [TS]

01:14:42   gun around [TS]

01:14:42   I would be sheriffing all the fucking [TS]

01:14:44   time and that is not what the world [TS]

01:14:46   needs there is not a single parking lot [TS]

01:14:47   that you attend to that would go on [TS]

01:14:50   sheriff [TS]

01:14:50   I would sheriff I would I'd be [TS]

01:14:53   sheriffing everybody I'd be like one of [TS]

01:14:54   those Australian Shepherds who's like [TS]

01:14:56   every time he tries to run kids talking [TS]

01:14:59   to the air you grab their pants with [TS]

01:15:00   your teeth you pull him back in New York [TS]

01:15:01   that's you yeah that's you with a pistol [TS]

01:15:02   in the parking lot yeah that's not what [TS]

01:15:04   I mean froggy went a-courtin and he did [TS]

01:15:05   ride but I do want a shoulder holster [TS]

01:15:08   and I'm not sure what to put in it [TS]

01:15:09   obviously oh no I'm not gonna be my [TS]

01:15:13   phone I think what it should be as well [TS]

01:15:15   a collapsible brass telescope [TS]

01:15:18   oh no you to travel sextant you only [TS]

01:15:23   need one but I don't wanna know and so [TS]

01:15:31   here I am I'm looking at these huh Sarge [TS]

01:15:33   jackets huh huh and I'm like oh I really [TS]

01:15:35   like that oh that's fun that's fun stuff [TS]

01:15:50   really fun [TS]