Roderick on the Line

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00:00:05 ◼   ► hello daijaan hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

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00:00:20 ◼   ► about three days ago I got a pair of [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► pants at a thrift store and they were [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► called Adriano or Adriano gold Schmiedt [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► and I had never heard the name Adriano [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► gold Schmiedt and I thought I thought me [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► that's a pretty cool name [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► mm-hmm and that you know the pants were [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► like three dollars or something so I was [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► like yeah you know that's cool Oh get [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► him let's stand up scale well I did that [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► thing where I was like I got a I gotta [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► figure out what Adriano Goldschmidt is [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► and and normally before I buy something [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► like that I've looked it up right there [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► mm-hmm oh that's smart and so did you [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► you don't rep the wrong thing no you [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► don't want to get so you don't want to [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► get something that looks fancy that's [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► fake fancy and you don't want to get [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► something that is like I'm just gonna [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► wear these around the house your company [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► and your product I think there's very [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► few even customs or laws the concern [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► that I think you can name it whatever [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you want [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► yeah you could you could say fanciest [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► giant somebody yeah exactly right yeah [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► be it's AG Adriano gold Schmiedt Inc [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► right but I so I had him in my arms at [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► the thrift store and I was like Adriana [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► Goldschmidt Autry on a gold meet and [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► because I wanted to look it up but I was [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► you know I was like I'll do that in a [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► second because I was yeah halfway [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► through searching for a rack or [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► and then I went over to the thing and I [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► wandering around the store and then I [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► was like what was I gonna do [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► oh right Adriano gone I looked at the [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► pants again to remember the name [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► Jan Goldsmith Audrianna gold Reid and [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► then for whatever reason something else [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► has so the person said something to me [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► anyway I bought the pants having not [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► looked up Audrey on her Goldschmidt but [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► as I was walking out of the store I was [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► like oh right I want to look up what [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► these are for three bucks you know geez [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► so in the dungarees yeah they're like [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► black soft jeans okay so I looked at it [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I looked at it begin Audriana colt sweet [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► right I'll you know as soon as I get to [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► my truck I'm gonna sit there and look it [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► up before I you know while the trucks [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► were warming up somehow I didn't do that [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► so when I got home and I was unloading [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► the groceries and stuff and I and I kept [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► the little thrift store package and I'm [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► like all right right right right and I [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► look at the pants Audrianna cold sweet [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► right as soon as I get in the house I'm [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► gonna look it up anyway for the last [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► three days I have looked at the jeans [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► and I have memorized the name Audria of [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► Goldschmidt Anna gold Smith and I've [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► repeated it to myself like five six [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► times like a mantra and then each time [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► it's like the name hypnotizes me or [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► somehow it's like an incantation [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► so almost like I like a spell like a [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► spell and and if I say it five times I [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► will I will forget to look it up it's [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► like a spell about itself oh it's doing [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► like a like a mine white thing yeah so [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► I've done a goldsmith Audrianna gold to [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► meet and then it's it's well there may [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► be more to it but it appears that at [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► least one performance characteristic of [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► this incantation is that as soon as you [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► say the words you forget the words and [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► that you said them yeah right I have to [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► then remember oh right I was gonna look [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► up with those jeans what were those [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► jeans again with no I don't I don't [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► retain Adriano [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► I don't retain gold Schmiedt I retained [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► nothing not even the initials so on my [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► way in here to sit down I was like right [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► right right [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► Adriano Gold's made I mean I I pulled [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► them out of the washing machine to look [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► at the name on them and then I was like [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► you know they're my new jeans I'll just [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► put him on and I put them on I'm wearing [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► right now oh wow like debut and as I was [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► sitting down at the computer as we [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► called I was like Audrey on a culture [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► meet Audrey or gold mean but I'm already [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► deciding that I don't like them I'm [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► gonna give them back to the thirst [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► oh what a journey well because they're [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► not inexpensive if you go to your local [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► Nordstrom and you pick these up you're [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► gonna spend so you're gonna spend some [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► money the thing is that it it's very [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► very very rarely happens because usually [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► I only buy things that are that are [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► pretty unworn you know you don't want to [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► just go buy somebody else's where it [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► pays to be picky and bees as I sat down [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► they didn't they don't smell bad they [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► don't smell thrift story they just smell [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► like somebody else oh I see I don't want [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► to sit around and smell up somebody else [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► can't imprint on them yeah so anyway [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► what's the story with Audrey no gold [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► tree did you look him up I looked on the [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► internet science site [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► Adrian Adriano Goldschmidt he's an [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► Italian fashion designer who focuses on [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► denim jeans known as The Godfather of [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► denim and the originator of premium [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► denim he created he created bezel replay [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► gap 1969 and AG Adriano Gulch meet and [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► is currently directing gold sign and [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► men's citizens of humanity design and [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► citizens he's kind of a kind of a kind [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► of a big wheel yeah this is a pants [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► baller created premium denim yeah [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► premium denim yeah were you were you [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► around for the for the transition to [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► premium I mean I you know I was extant [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► but it was not I just remember having [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► one of those old man moments where you [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► know you hear like oh you can buy these [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► jeans now and they're $400 and I was [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► like that seems like a lot of money for [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► jeans pretty much makes that I feel like [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► I feel like I'm aware that diesel is a [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► brand from a time when jeans got costly [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► presumably fancy but the funny part is [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► like you think about the 80s I mean not [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► not to make this totally an old man [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► thing but like when with the call of [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► designer jeans got popular in the late [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► 70s kind of associated a little bit with [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► the disco movement you get you're very [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► tight you think you look at it you look [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► for a band to go to Vanderbilt [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► Jordache Georgia oh oh I my home in [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► Seattle but I live in Britannia also the [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► Jordache look oh yeah what were some [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► other ones you got we're so dark [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► okay clients nothing comes between me [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► and my cow me and my Calvin's yeah [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► that's right [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► and and so then so in my head I you know [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► it's funny $40 is such an interesting as [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► they say price point like you know a or [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► four four zero four zero dollars like if [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► you watch if you're watching you're in a [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► hotel room and you get regular TV on [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► you'll notice how many things that you [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► order off the TV regardless of how many [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► you end up getting cuz of this special [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► offer you call next hundred minutes as [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► 39.95 at that and and now when I was a [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► youth two things were $40 two very [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► important things a pair of like pretty [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► good Nikes $40 $40 a pair of what they [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► think all designer jeans that's $40 huh [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► now and now in my household both of [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► those that was that made it at like a [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► vellum good like you've got to be [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► kidding me like you could get these [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► perfectly serviceable JCPenney shoes [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► that are blue and orange and have the [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► wrong number of stripes on it absolutely [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► you get those for maybe eight eight or [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► ten dollars ditto for a pair of Levi's [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► that you pick up at Sears or tough skins [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► right yeah I know I wouldn't wear tough [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► skin cuz you're hot [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► yeah I was too husky yeah and I've never [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► been able to wear any kind of Wranglers [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► or anything like that [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► husky Huskies like the boy version of [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► women oh it's available in women's sizes [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► horrible code word like literally half [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► of the population has [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► their clothes is like your little bigger [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► than we'd like well I get twelve let's [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► go over to women's to Walker to walk [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► around with the word husky around your [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► neck was was really a Scarlet Letter I [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► know but I I the the the original run of [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► fashion jeans in the 70s and early 80s I [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► didn't I obviously was too young to [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► really participate in because yeah like [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► you say $40 for appearances your style [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► yeah but but the second wave of what I [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► think here is being described as premium [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► denim mm-hmm I was standing at Ground [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► Zero of premium denim because my [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► girlfriend at the time worked in the 90s [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► at a store sort of pioneered this this [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► this whole concept of thought technology [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► was pioneered in Seattle which was and [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► pioneered by like a specific couple of [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► people which was go out to the Rocky [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► Mountain States drive around oh yeah you [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► talked about this yeah yeah you [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► mentioned you did talk about just so you [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► know you did talk about this your lady [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► friend who would go off on journeys to [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► try and find this she decided this would [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► become her business she could go out and [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► find some trousers that she could sell [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► for a way above what she bought them for [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► right now's her chance and so she worked [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► at a storefront here in Seattle and the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► hole and this was later right after it [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► wasn't so easy to just go find jeans [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► lying around the whole point of the [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► storefront was it was just like walk in [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► the door there were four shelves maybe [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► in the store and one of the shelves had [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► a pair of original Air Jordans mm-hmm [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► one of the shelves had a pair of [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► original something you know is like [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► there were four things for sale in the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► store it was not a store that you went [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► to buy things and she was sitting behind [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► the counter looking at a magazine and [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► the point is you would walk in there and [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► try and sell her your jeans and her job [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► was to sit there and look at your jeans [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► like no you're not the ones on you [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► mmm-hmm [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► like you'd walk in with an armload of [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► jeans and go hey what do you think of [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► these and then she would [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► sneer at your genes and then you would [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► walk out of there feeling bad and [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► sometimes you would argue with her and [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► she would just like look at her she'd go [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► back to reading her that's like they're [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► gonna fight with a frat boy that you [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► just can't ya can are you with the girl [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► whose sole job it is to mock your gene [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► the most important part of her job is [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► what she doesn't buy right and so she [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► would sometimes somebody would walk in [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► and say uh could I saw these jeans who [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► would grandfathers and she'd be like [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► those jeans and give you some amount of [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► money I don't I was never like to 100% [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► privy to how much you know money went [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► back that's interesting but so she man [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► he would have been bragging about it [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► yeah well she's playing it close to the [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► vest you know that this is the thing [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► that was an era when thrift store [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► Pickers I think I've told you about this [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► we would go to thrift stores it way way [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► out in the country and we'd be walking [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► around and there'd be five other people [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► in the store and they would all know [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► each other and glare at each other and [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► we'd be walking through the aisle and [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► dadada and then you know somebody would [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► be coming the other way with a shopping [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► cart full of stuff and they would pass [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► her and they'd be like hi Meegan mm-hmm [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► and she'd go hi and it was like wow we [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► are 80 miles out of Seattle like what [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► are you people and she's just like oh my [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► god that person is just the worst they [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► run a little store somewhere in there [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► you know grudging level of respect to it [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► though or absolutely like it was he [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► might be a little envious it's somebody [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► somebody got got to the trousers first [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► some of that but they all were very [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► detailed about what they bought on what [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► they liked and what their thing was [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► right so Meegan would walk through and [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► just she'd pick stuff out and be like oh [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► yeah this is worth ninety dollars but [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► gross huh and I never got into it right [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► I did not [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► that whole resale of things I just [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► didn't have any interest in if it wasn't [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► my size and if I wasn't gonna wear it [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► personally I had no it's nice lifestyle [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► job though cuz I think about my daughter [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► who loves all these different brands of [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► little crappy tiny plastic toys and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► each one when you get these crappy toys [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► there's very many many varieties of [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► these but they each come with like a [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► sheet sort of like when you get tops [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► baseball cards I'm going to show you [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► like which which sometimes you get a [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► card in there it's a meta card of what [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► cards to collect and oh oh this [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► particular little lip balm cover it [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► looks like a hat is a is like a pretty [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► normal one this one's like a super rare [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► I was like well you seem to get a super [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► rare every time we buy these are you [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► sure that that's not super rare but that [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► was your phone like you know how to get [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► the right pokemons and whatnot and like [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► you can find a way to turn those other [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► people's pants into a business if you [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► buy a tootsie roll with our tootsie roll [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► pop with an Indian on it shooting an [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► arrow at a star you get a free one I've [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► heard that or something no roll pop huh [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► I used to collect those wrappers because [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► they had because you'd find the one with [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► the Indian with the star arm they [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► weren't that rare and I never traded one [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► in for a free one but that's how you [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► could save your fingernail clippings and [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► solid SD water you remember that I do [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► not remember that mm-hmm saving the top [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► from a pop top like that that's like [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► super aluminum or something you get [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► extra money for super aluminum school [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► like our school God God God bless the [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► hard-working people at our school and [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► and the people who dozens of years ago [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► came up with these really terrible ideas [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► for raising money and can they continue [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► to do them today to bring in oh you [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► bring in your your label tops from [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► cereal and we'll make like half hold [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► this garbage at your house until you [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► bring it to our house you know she could [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► do you bring the super aluminum from the [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► top of your pop top so we treat those [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► well so a good thing about Meighan was [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► that she hurt her raven hair girl you're [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► with for a while that's not her [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► she was raven haired mm-hmm did we go to [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► dinner one time it's different [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► it's like that's her name I never met [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► her she's just she's just a mythical [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► character she's just in the pantheon for [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► me completely a mythic gold Kelly I [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► still think about it [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► did I tell you I told you I tried to get [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► my daughter on that and she wouldn't she [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► didn't buy it because the the way the [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► story goes and John Syracuse it reminds [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► me that I'm remembering this story wrong [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► but your story is what was is your is [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► your good buddy from Alaska right well [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► it was it was tell the story again cuz [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► it's been a long time I refer to it a [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► lot and it'll help me tell this it'll [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► come back welcome back to the pants in a [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► minute but tell me tell me the story [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► wasn't Mike I want to sell no no Eric [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► Eric okay and and so and Jonna siracusa [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► remembers this story you told as being [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► like it was an important like end of [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► high school end of an era kind of thing [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► and you guys were parting ways and he [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► had he had a message for you know how do [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► you remember it I just remember it as [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► your friend who in my head I know it's [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► not Mike Squires but it feels like a [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► very Mike Squires thing to do it might [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► the story is you and you and your buddy [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► are out your buddy goes to a drinking [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► fountain gets a drink of water and then [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► he says to you from now on for the rest [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► of your life every time you take a drink [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► from a water fountain I want you to [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► think of me that's the way I remember it [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► that that that is how it happened but [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► it's um and the rub is you told me that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► story and now in my broken brain every [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► time I drink from a water fountain which [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► is not that often but now which makes it [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► even more acute is every time I stick a [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► drink of water from a water fountain I [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► think of you remembering your friend [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► whom I've never met so that's on me now [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► so that the story was Eric Spurlock okay [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► was a guy who moved to Alaska with his [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► his parents after he was already a [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► teenager they they live they live back [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► east in upstate New York in like Geneseo [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► New York and they moved to Alaska [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► because Eric's dad's brother lived up [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► there already or whatever and Eric's [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► Eric's cousin was a guy named John what [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► the hell was his last name John was like [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► the year ahead of me okay and John was [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► the funny guy in school [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► the guy that uh oh fuck his name I just [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► it just passed god that's so frustrating [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► John [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► was was Adriano gold goldsmith John was [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► one year older than me and he was the [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► funny guy in the senior class when I was [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► a junior the funny guy in the class [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► clown and cut-up he's legit made people [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► laugh he was the funny guy and he had a [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► pockmarked face like he was never gonna [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► be one of the handsome guys and he was [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► just he was just viciously funny and and [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► and awful right I mean he was he was [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► scary he was a he was he was a bully [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► well he's fast at knowing where to go [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► right he was super fast and the thing is [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► that you know despite because in Alaska [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► it's kind of cut cutthroat a little bit [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► and no oh jon-jerale [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► jon-jerale nobody could get jon-jerale [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► nobody backed jon-jerale and into a [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► corner nothing right I mean you couldn't [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► you couldn't you couldn't like rich [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► clothes shame him you couldn't like [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► classic a classic maybe not not to say [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► these an unattractive man but like the [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► kid and in my case felt a little bullied [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► sometimes that's where the humor comes [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► from it comes from this deflection and [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► being ill that becomes your strength yes [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► sir he absolutely and that was how I [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► felt right I was chubby and I was I was [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► sears we'll call you husky husky I was [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► universally considered a dork you know I [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► was I was a year younger than everybody [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► else because my parents put me in [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► kindergarten when I was four and so I [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► was just a dork I couldn't grow a [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► mustache I didn't I was just sort of [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► like really was and scallop I just [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► looked like a scalpel so unfinished and [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► my mom kept cutting my hair until I [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► absolutely pushed her hand away one time [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► like yeah I went to school just hidden [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► this is worse than a principled Ohioan [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► she was so principled and so watching [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► jon-jerale just be like just like watch [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► on people I really did admire him but I [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► also was terrified of him and [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► he never gave me any praise or [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► acknowledgement he was always he saw me [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► as a holding he was and he saw me not as [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► a even a comer but just like you know [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► right get away from me scallop like the [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► last thing I need is a bunch of fanboys [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► I was like a bunch of fanboys I'm your [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► only fan boy yeah he was just like dick [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► and everything I you know I wanted to do [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► he he kind of did before me like he [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► wanted to be a DJ a radio DJ and that's [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► what I wanted to be he got a job at a [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► radio station his junior year house it's [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► coming back to me yeah you know as a [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► sophomore I was just like Chuck girls [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► we're getting a radio station like me - [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► would be President and then one time [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► right there I'm like our president it [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► was our president one time jon-jerale [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► I remember the day I actually remember [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the moment and where I was standing in [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► the high school where I work it was a [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► group of people standing around he was a [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► senior by then I was a junior which is [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► when I really kind of came into my world [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► and I said something to a group of [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► people and John turned and he was like [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► huh that was I was pretty good and I was [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► just like the crown has passed mm-hmm [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► boom but anyway Spurlock was John [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► Gerald's cousin and he was my age and it [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► kind of looked like John but even kind [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► of more dorky John had a pock pockmarked [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► face but not but he wasn't unhandsome [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► eric was just sort of like me kind of [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► unformed a guy that was gonna be an [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► attractive man but not a very attractive [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► teen that's how it works [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► eric was also very funny but he was [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► coming from outside he was coming from [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► New York [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► and he really strongly strongly felt [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► that Alaska was something he didn't he [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► couldn't penetrate like he just was [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► never gonna be Alaskan and he felt it [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► really acutely right you could just feel [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► that he was the insecurity of not [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► understanding what all the rules were [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► and not getting the inside you know not [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► comprehending it but he's super funny [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► and he became a very close member of our [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► of our group but he never accepted [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► entirely how close he was to us [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► we all thought he was integral and he [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► always couldn't let that be he he always [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► felt outside and at the end of high [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► school we were we were all kind of at [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► that point in time like yes sure going [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► off to college but Alaska was all we [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► knew and we we all assumed we would go [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► to college and then come back to Alaska [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► that was that was the whole universe [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► there I don't think it occurred to any [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► one of us that we would ever live [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► outside of Alaska we were going off to [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► college yeah but we were coming back and [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► we're whatever big plans you've got for [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► the long long future they end up you [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► know very much not nearly as important [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► it's like what that next thing is [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► like the college thing is a big thing [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► that's a good step going to college but [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► then at Christmas time we'll be back [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► here to compare notes and then you know [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► what we're gonna do we're gonna graduate [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► we're gonna be in college cotillion [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► mm-hmm not high school Kentucky moc yeah [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► and so Jim McNeal who was from Arkansas [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► but Jim always felt very much part of [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► Alaska because Jim igneel didn't have [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► insecurities Jim Jim even spoke with a [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► southern accent but in Alaska that's [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► just an advantage he was out of Arkansas [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► accent thick one but he was just like [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► I'm from Alaska what are you talking [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► about and Eric and I were walking in the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► Sears Mall and we stopped to go to the [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► bathroom and there was a drinking [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► fountain and we stopped to get a drink [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► of water and Eric had just a few minutes [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► before we had this great reveal this he [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► dropped this bomb which was we're moving [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► my folks are leaving Alaska home on [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► they'd only been there for three years [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► and this is how you tell me is he [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► telling them all this is how you tell me [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► right and his father bought the his [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► father came up to Alaska he to I guess [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► start over I don't know why you would do [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► this but he came up and bought a bakery [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► and the bakery was for sale [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► because it had formerly been owned by [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► Robert Hanssen who was the Alaska Baker [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► who would who would kidnap prostitutes [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► put them in his airplane take them up to [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► his take them up to wilderness locations [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► set them free and then hunt them hmm [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► there's a there's a movie made about him [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► Robert Hanssen yeah it's a terrible [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► movie butcher baker right but he would [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► like he would yeah he would like the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► greatest game or whatever like set them [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► loose and most dangerous game right and [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► so Hanson had just been caught mm-hmm [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► like that year and all of a sudden his [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► bakery was like for sale oh now you're [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► gonna want to burn a lot of sage in that [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► place and Eric Spurlock's dad came up [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► and bought the bakery so all of a sudden [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► we're like did they disclose something [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► like that is that something where [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► they've got to let you know I think so I [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► mean I think I think there was a lot of [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► like wow why is that bakery so cheap [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► yeah and and and my understanding of the [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► story is that he did not use the bakery [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► as a as part of his thing it was just [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► for work that was where you went to work [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► yeah but you know one of those things [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► that a lot of people didn't have in high [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► school but I did was a friend whose dad [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► owned a bakery so he were like we could [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► as we were driving around town I was [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► like oh let's let's uh swing into [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► Spurlock's bakery go in there and get [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► some big bakery things pretty pretty [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► cool mm-hmm [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► so Eric says yeah we're moving and and [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► my reaction was like we can't move like [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► he made it you made it all the way [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► through high school you can make it well [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► you're an Alaskan like what do you mean [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► you're moving and he was like yeah we're [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► going back to New York [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► and then he drops this verse down I'm [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► drinking water and he like standing by I [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► mean he goes every time you see that [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► that the writing on the train at the [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► bottom of the water family I want you to [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► think of me oh man I was like I hate how [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► effective that is Wow Wow and you know [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► of course there it is it lives in infamy [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► it's [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► so it's so good because if you're doing [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► to somebody who's really suggestible [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► like I am it's really good because it's [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► also one of those things where how are [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► you gonna like prevent that if it does [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► start to drive you crazy and you can't [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► unthink the thought like what are you [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► gonna do is the whole point of a thing [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► like that is it doesn't happen often [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► enough that you'd like get used to it [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► and you know be able to kind of ride it [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► off it's like ah it would be like from [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► now on every time you see a urinal cake [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► I want you to think of me like you would [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► like you wouldn't even see it coming [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► how do you reprogram yourself from [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► something I don't know but I need to [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► find out cuz I'm very vulnerable well [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► and you're absolutely right like you [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► don't see it isn't like saying every [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► time you drink water right that would be [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► just that would be too much and that [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► would it wouldn't work yeah yeah I mean [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► it's like gambling paying off [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► periodically like the way it would [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► really get in your brain is Oh God [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► see now I'm gonna think about urinals no [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► now I'm gonna think about this episode [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► well every time I see a urinal cake you [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► don't see your own cakes as you used to [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► if you worked in an office where there [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► was a urinal cake in the urinal yeah [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► nothing like that could could work [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► because you use it three times a day and [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► you'd see the urinal cake like you're [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► saying it wouldn't it wouldn't stick but [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► somebody wear it out somebody like you [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► or me where where if the number of times [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► we use a public urinal is somewhat [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► limited and then yeah like you say there [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► aren't urinal cakes anymore for those [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► listeners who don't know what a urinal [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► cake is I'm sure there are zones well if [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► you know baked goods you know about [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► Hanson's bakery you can know about [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► Anchorage yeah so this is a thing where [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► you get this I don't know what it's made [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► of but I don't know it's almost like a [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► bar of soap yeah kind of wax waxy foamy [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► off in pink and it sits at the bottom of [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► the urinal and I think its purpose is to [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► make it smell less like urine and then [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► people urinate on it and ironically [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► enough I think that releases some of the [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► urine cakes powers and the smell of a [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► urine cake is distinctive so and it's [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► not unpleasant so that you very sweet [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► yeah it replaces the smell of urine with [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► this this other smell yeah yeah yeah but [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► I think part of the urine cake have you [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► have you been to a [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► like men's rooms in Europe no no [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► well European I've ever been on the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► continent no never been on the continent [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► my bent - I've been tingling that's it [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► England well and they I'm not sure they [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► have them there but I think they'll sit [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► down there I think yeah I think the UK [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► that's an entire like island of sitters [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► but they don't I don't think they use [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► they might but there's a the the [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► universal universally popular urinal [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► manufacturers in Europe have now put in [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► their urinals a little painting like [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► they put a fly in there something of a [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► fly or a bee or a little thing to aim at [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► that's that's never centered it's always [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► to the side you must physics physics [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► yeah in a spot that will reduce splatter [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► mm-hmm and if you stand there and pee on [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► the B or pee on the fly it will it's [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► like I have to assume maximum efficiency [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► of the of the urinal yeah and I have [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► found it impossible to not pee on the [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► fly you would have a B you would have to [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► be such an iconoclast he would have to [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► be make a point of saying I am currently [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► not peeing on a fly because that's a [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► thing that I'm doing [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► you would have to hopefully sick cuz [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► your mind what's the pee on that fly so [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► hard no you don't get any coupons or [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► anything out of it but like it's a sense [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► it's a sense of achievement I hit the [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► fly with my pee the thing is you would [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► have to be stronger than that because [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► I'm the type of person that would go to [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► a urinal and say like I'm not gonna pee [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► on the floor I mean that's the type of [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► thing I would do sure but I can't I'm [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► powerless against that fly I know I know [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► because it's otherwise it's just a big [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► white emptiness it's a it's a it's a [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► bowl of it's an infinite bowl I would [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► like more things like that in life I [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► would like more things where you don't [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► need to necessarily have instructions or [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► tutorial you don't need to take an [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► extension class but I would like more [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► I'm gonna call it hinting more like [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► hinting at like okay you know what this [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► is gonna go well we put a thing in here [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► that's not a real fly you don't have to [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► feel bad mmm-hmm we're being flyest [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► that's an image of a fly that you that [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► we're just gonna put this here and we [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► find that people will hit it with their [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► pee and you don't get a bank shot you [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► know it's not like going straight up [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► against [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► you know in a really brightly lit room [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► what one may not realize I don't want to [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► be too graphic here I think most people [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► don't realize how much spotter there is [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► with P noise there's more spotter than [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► you would imagine especially if you're [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► wearing khaki pants and this is a thing [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that they solved a problem yeah they [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► probably they probably have saw they [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► probably saved let's say conservatively [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► a hundred billion man-hours of cleaning [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► and the shame you know but the thing is [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► they should do freakonomics should do [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► like a whole episode on this because you [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► think about this first of all less [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► stress let's just start with the [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► beginning you're not gonna get your [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► khaki pants I'll cover with splatter [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► that's good right now right you're also [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► gonna waste the more productivity you [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► last time spent trying to dab dab dab to [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► get PP off of off of your pants also you [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► know what less money spent on laundering [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► now that might have a knock-on effect [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► mmm for the be laundering industry [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► that's good for everybody you ready for [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► this one less splatter on the floor [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► let's need to overtly send in janitor [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► man to come in and clean them the [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► splatter it's good for everybody you put [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► a fly in there they say art isn't useful [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► it's very useful you put a fly in a [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► urinal I feel like well first of all in [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► Europe I feel like the bee is more [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► popular than the fly oh because the fly [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► conveys dirtiness right it's a fly in [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► your bathroom that's not what you want [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► oh I see I see yep yep yep yep apply is [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► gross but uh this is probably [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► evolutionary psychology on some level at [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► least a couple ways so you think if you [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► could if you were out in the world just [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► sort of peeing in the gravel and there [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► was an opportunity to pee on a bee well [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► I peed it moves wouldn't you do it I [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► mean there's ants I'd follow it along I [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► mean I it's you got to do that that's [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► just it's in your brain but it gives you [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► that sense of accomplishment like I've [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► been I just peed on that B for a long [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► time but but I do feel I I hear what [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► you're saying and I agree and I'm [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► thinking like what are the what are the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► other what are the analogues to this [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► like like if you paint lines on a [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► highway right that's all that's also [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► just I think give you some examples of [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► this one example that comes up for me [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► several times a year is that I will see [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► an occurrence of a three-digit number [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► and that was my laundry number [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► when I was in military school which [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► meant that every single item that I [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► owned with a sharpie or with a white [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► laundry marker every single item that I [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► owned had this three digit number on it [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► and it basically equalled me like for [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► practical purposes it was almost like a [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► serial number [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► it was technicals laundry number but [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► I'll cement that if I ever lost anything [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► he would have that three digit number on [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► it and it would return to me because you [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► would even know what everybody else's [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► number was all right so now whenever I [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► see that three-digit number in the wild [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► of course the very first thing I think [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► of is that hey that's weird that's my [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► laundry number well what was your [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► laundry I don't know I mean should I say [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► for OPSEC reasons it's 207 I don't want [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► people I don't people trolling me about [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► it but um like that or like my PO Box [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► and College was 289 and so you know I'm [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► just this is just a random example but [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► those are kinds of things where that's [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► just digits that doesn't mean anything [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► we imbue these digits you know you get a [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► 420 or 69 nice like or you get you know [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► you got a lucky number like a like a 37 [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► right mm-hmm and then you start noticing [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► that but I think it has to be that kind [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► of thing it can't be oh I saw a number [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► that wouldn't work it's got to be [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► something that appears somewhat randomly [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► like unto a water fountain right a [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► payphone [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► the rapidly disappearing payphone yeah [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► the payphones are gone now the other day [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► nobody's having a good day when they're [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► using a pencil and I and that's actually [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► been true for a while yes to these when [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► they were still kind of pick on dirty [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► this thing sorry to put that on your [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► face [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► well I mean we all did it for decades [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► think about that mouthpiece think about [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► how many mouths have been right there [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► well just you know think about I mean [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► huh what at what age did you stop [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► sucking on quarters stop sucking on [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► course I'd say sometime between 3 and 11 [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► yeah yeah but sucking on a quarter well [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► yeah I know I know I know and my [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► daughter loves like like my god like me [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► I think you've talked about this too I [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► used to love collecting change and [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► rolling it up and just playing with it [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► and acting like that was in monopoly man [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► like running my hands through it smell [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► your hands smell my hands after you [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► played with money all right it's not a [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► nice smell oh it's a something smell [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► it smells like blood yes there's no [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► you're right you're right yeah yeah [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► absolutely bloody smell well you know [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► they say every hundred dollar bill in [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► America is got cocaine residue that's [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► what they say [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► boss skanks they also say that you happy [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► if you collect a tootsie roll pop with [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► an indian and shooting a star it's the [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► show art for this week already [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► uh-huh got it right here apparently [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► turns out you don't get frequency puffs [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► from it it's there's many many Indians [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► shooting stars and people have gotten [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► tattoos of it is a thing I just learned [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► right and it's some kind of I wonder you [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► know there's got to be a website that [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► deals with that kind of urban legend oh [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► no I just felt five yeah my sources [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► people here clicking because I'm working [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► on the program while we're doing that [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► yeah other things like that but I think [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► it needs to be some combination of [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► something very concrete it can't be as [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► general as like I say just the existence [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► of a number or the color blue or [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► something that it has to be something [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► that you don't have time to think about [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► processing that once you see it on some [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► kind of like um Subrosa level you're [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► processing that you oh that's that thing [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► and I'm thinking of Eric now Eric [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► Spurlock I feel like I feel like this is [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► one of the things that is going to make [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► it's gonna popularize AR and it's gonna [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► it's going to facilitate the transition [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► to AR because what well I think one of [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► the main main main first uses and maybe [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► primary uses of AR is going to be to [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► gamify regular life mmm game uh so [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► regular life yeah so like you know so [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► everything is gonna turn into there's a [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► little coins floating above your tasks [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► or coins floating above things in the [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► world you're gonna Mario over to there [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► and then you jump left left right contra [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► code you grab your you grab your your [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► grab a coin [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► you're not goes into your virtual purse [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► yes exactly and and that gamification [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► will be used by companies and you know [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► if they're smart by governments but [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► certainly by by companies get your [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► coffee somewhere and like you get [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► half off 20% off if you agree to watch a [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► 15-second and that or as you're walking [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► through the mall companies will pay to [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► have gold coins floating over the front [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► of their store and you never would have [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► gone over to the Gucci store but you go [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► over there and click and clean collect [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► your coin and then you're standing in [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► front of the store you know or you have [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► to go inside the store to the store rack [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► to collect clean a version of that in [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► this neighborhood near my house over in [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► West Portal where once a year [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► many of the merchants participate in a [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► Where's Waldo [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► tournament so there's a cutout Waldo you [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► put the cutout Waldo somewhere in the [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► store and then you're supposed to go to [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► all the stores and find Waldo and then [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► you can turn that in for I don't know [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► significant prizes and coins [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► yeah significant prizes but if you think [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► about the things that we want people to [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► do right edge the attention economy [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► right it's not it's not as so obviously [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► we already want you to buy stuff that's [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► why there are ads thank you - hello [TS]

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00:39:17 ◼   ► produce veggie plan you're gonna get [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► vegetarian recipes with plant-based [TS]

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00:39:46 ◼   ► personally my family loves the food and [TS]

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00:40:11 ◼   ► supporting Roderick on the line and all [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► the great shows which is a kind of a [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► gold coin just in this case a gold coin [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► goes to president Zuckerberg Winklevoss [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► but I'm thinking about the other things [TS]

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00:40:34 ◼   ► during rush hour traffic now we're [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► talking about a thing we're talking bout [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► a time driving zipper merge we want you [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► to zipper merge stop doing that thing [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► where you going through early or too [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► late [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► zipper merge is what it's all about [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► that's it now we're going to be driving [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► at that point it's all gonna be a [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► driverless cars futurist cuz you did it [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► you took an eternity you jump you left [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► you left you took two assumptions and [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► two plus two x equals like seven you [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► just went to a whole other place [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► somebody told me the other day that [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► there's actually a master's degree in [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► futurism available at the university of [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► hawai and they said why are you not in [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► the master's program at the University [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► of Hawaii why are you why are you even [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► not there yeah and I was like there's a [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► lot of reasons that I'm not but you know [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► what I am a master's degree I don't like [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► the food there at the University of [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► Hawaii well just Hawaii in general it's [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► nothing against the good people of [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► Hawaii I'm so they really do not want me [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► to be there I don't I felt very [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► unwelcome and I felt like I should feel [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► very unwelcome there it's not a good [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► scene but the food I just I can't I [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► can't get with the food there I couldn't [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► do what master's program was that could [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► be two years and you got to write a [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► thesis got a very futuristic thesis yeah [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► probably [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► look you got a living a wife or two [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► years we're gonna semesters degree in [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► futurism I don't see why you can't do [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► that from your home you should [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► able to do that should be a cyber [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► University thing know what I mean your [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► watch but think about how we how people [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► will be controlled by this Spurlock Ian [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► like sync concept but by their own you [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► know by their own volition they'll [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► direct the Spurlock effect they'll be [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► out there being asked to to put put that [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► little bit of like dystopian game onto [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► all the things that they're doing these [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► little like oh well if you're over here [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► I want you to you know it but it's all [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► gonna be they're all gonna be it's gonna [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► be collecting in their in their virtual [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► reality account yes right their life [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► account their credit card like the [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► Minority Report movie and Facebook right [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► so again Minority Report which i think [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► is a very good movie this is thinking [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► about majority reported I haven't seen [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► it in a long time it's movie I think [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► about fairly often who owned there's one [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► one particular scene where Mission [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► Impossible guys was walking around [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► I've memory serves he's walking through [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► a public area Oh abs are talking the ads [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► are talking to him specifically [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► addressing him see I think you combined [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► something like that with you obviously [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► with a Facebook type thing [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► sure so they know lots of stuff about [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► you and then now I realize I'm not being [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► a true as for locking in futurist [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► because I haven't made the leaps that [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► you're late making but I bet in the near [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► term that's gonna be the case [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► it's kind of the case right now like [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► we're a few there's all these dingaling [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► apps where if you're not paying any [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► attention and you should be paying [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► attention and do you want to do location [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► do you want to do notifications do you [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► want to do beep-beep-beep-beep and like [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► a lot of times when you do that even [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► though it breaks the Terms of Service it [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► does lots of stuff to push you things [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► based on where you are or what you [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► haven't done for a while it is doing [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► that open your treasure chest from this [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► from this screen white face guy in app [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► purchase peas double-click to continue [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► and then you've agreed the terms in [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► service and now that yeah that's that's [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► your gold coin for now but you're saying [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► this could be a Mario type situation [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► well what what Minority Report this is [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► the great thing about the about science [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► fiction right they get it they get 80% [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► of it but they don't [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► they it's never really possible to see [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► so clearly like it when we were kids we [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► never would have imagined there wouldn't [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► be a NASA now the science the wonderful [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► science fiction movies I mean setting [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► aside the haha never got a jetpack stuff [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► but you think about how many science [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► fiction movies well so fancifully cover [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► the idea of like even hyperspace travel [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► this is a really obvious one but I think [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► that the one that everybody missed was [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► communications an amazing thing that [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► happen is communications there's so many [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► movies from the 70s 80s 90s that fall [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► apart if you have a wireless phone [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► uh-huh [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► it does not a plot anymore and now you [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► can look up a word on your phone while [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► you're at the cabin the the thing that [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► that Minority Report didn't get was that [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► VR was going to be personal individual [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► so that the plot point of that moment as [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► he's walking through this mall and all [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► the all the video ads are like hello [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► protagonist who's name is ringing out as [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► bad guy and he's like people can hear my [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► name but it will that will all just be [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► in your little heads-up display yeah all [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► that personalization fuck you asshole so [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► but what's gonna be fucked up about that [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► I think is that every person's this is [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► this will this will be playing to the [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► the intrinsic narcissism of modern [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► people every person will be experiencing [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► the world completely personalized and it [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► won't be very long it won't take very [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► long for us to believe that the world [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► actually does belong to oh my god in my [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► mind how different is it from going into [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► one of those massively multiplayer [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► massive games and you get to pick what [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► kind of cloak and sword and are you this [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► kind of hell for that kind of how far [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► yeah hi alpha or a wood elf like are you [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► you know what I mean and see like and [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► now maybe you see everybody else becomes [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► your own little deviantART well you [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► start thinking oh you know everybody [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► should look like a monkey or something [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► well every single store every single ad [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► every single thing would be for [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► everybody else parents man it's the same [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► Walmart that doesn't make any sense you [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► should have the lobby spoke a are [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► Walmart but but like most people's minds [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► are [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► not most people's minds are vulnerable [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► enough or lazy enough I guess that they [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► will not be who they will not be [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► thinking to themselves this is true for [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► everyone they're just gonna be just [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► bathing in the fact that they're hearing [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► their name spoken over and over and over [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► by everything yeah and it's gonna create [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► if we didn't think we already had a [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► nation of monsters it's going to that is [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► gonna be a technology that divides us [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► rather than unites so you give me much [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► to think about I think you should be [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► teaching in Hawaii I teach you know what [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► I'm teaching in virtual Hawaii professor [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► John turn up your brass valves to to psi [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► Broderick you think you have a steampunk [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► virtual class i we were we were trying [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► to we the Jules Verne desk it's like you [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► covered wood we're doing a photo shoot [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the other day Ken Jennings and I and we [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► were trying to communicate futurism [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► without without using steampunk yeah we [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► determine that it's goggles you cannot [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► communicate anymore the future without [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► without Jules Bernie and so we're there [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► and it's just like no goggles and then [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► Ken just slowly starts putting these [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► goggles on and I'm like no goggles and [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► the goggles just go on you kept out we [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► were in a lab coat so way absolutely lab [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► coat this is like what can you do you [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► can't fight it may be holding bloody [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► baby dolls like the Beatles yesterday [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► and today or or her again the the the [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► dance the dancing scenes from Buck [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► Rogers the television show mmm that's a [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► warm fuzzy I keep I keep wanting to I [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► should go on YouTube it's like Audrey on [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► a gold Schmiedt mm-hmm [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► for years I've been saying funny it's [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► still it's still don't jump ahead but [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► isn't that funny it's still there I have [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► an entire text file called mystery [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► something that's called mystery memories [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► and it's all things I remember that are [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► very weird that I mean some of its stuff [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► as quotidian as like ancient Chinese [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► secret it's done like that remember I [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► had one time my clothes nation oh it's [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► kind of kind of obscure once I was [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► driving around went on Colerain Avenue [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► with my grandmother and I thought a [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► water tower look like a baseball [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► baseball mitt and I still think about it [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► today sliced tomatoes so thin your [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► mother-in-law will never come back big [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► Griz today at the plate speed whenever [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► has a second cup of my coffee [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► uh-huh ancient Chinese secret huh I had [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► a I had a little text file on my phone [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► about the Bionic Woman doll Steve Austin [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► they put out Oscar Oscar gold Gulch Mead [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► and those it was like a little thumb [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► button in the back right I think so but [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► this yeah all I know is the song starts [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► Jaime Sommers all day all night Marianne [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► I still have that in my head [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► that was a commercial for the first date [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► to all of these is it's so of all of [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► these are so many of these is setting us [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► up my hallucinations from when I was [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► eight there are so many things in here I [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► could go on YouTube and I could probably [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► find it and never occurs to me to go [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► find the gravy train or chuck wagon ad I [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► should go find that wouldn't remember [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► when the little cover wagon the [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► Conestoga wagon goes under the rug the [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► dogs confused that was the world that I [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► wanted to live in a little mini chuck [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► wagon world where that where underneath [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► the sink there was like a whole cowboy [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► universe why do only people in [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► commercials get that well and the thing [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► is that the only person that ever saw [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► that was the dog I know [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► wasn't that tragic yeah bit like so you [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► could go here's cash Amburgey catches [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► big barking bar [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► south Lebanon Ohio [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► follow the cars fallen science the cash [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► is big bargain barn in south Lebanon [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► Ohio anyway [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► you there uh yeah I just I'm sorry I [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► thought I thought I finally ended the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► podcast I definitely have a text file of [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► like weird memories that aren't related [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► to commercials but like those memories [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► where you think I've got to write this [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► down because this is such a powerful [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► every time you think it it's emotional [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► memory every time you three experience [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► it gets more faded but more edited like [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► you've got to like capture the pure [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► memory when it comes to you when I read [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► them now even the ones that I wrote [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► fairly recently like in the last couple [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► of years like oh shit I've got to put [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► this down I read it now and it just [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► doesn't I didn't write it well enough or [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► something and I just and the and the [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► memory is kind of lost by trying to [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► capture it the sense impression it's [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► like trying to remember a dream like [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► it's like saying through your fingers [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► the harder you try the faster it goes [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► away yeah lieutenant well because there [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► because they're all those there's [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► there's all those feelings like I [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► remember the feeling of sitting in a [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► booth and my mom said maybe and I [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► thought that meant that yes and here's [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► like what I you might start making it [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► too specific and you go okay do I really [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► remember those being those red plastic [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► cups that they Pete had a Pizza Hut did [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► Pizza Hut even have booths and you find [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► yourself going wait and they start [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► fact-checking yourself and pretty soon [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► you're crushing the bunny yeah you don't [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► want to crush the bunny [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► yeah I have a couple of those memories [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► right the time that I lost my horse [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► wallet in the water [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► oh they're odd yes there was a very [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► specific memory I have in in Hawaii when [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► I was a kid I was with my dad [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► we were try and this was back when Maui [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► didn't most of Maui didn't have paved [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► roads it was all dirt roads and we were [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► at some little store and they had a rack [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► of comic books which I'd been you know [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► there hadn't been comic books anywhere I [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► had gone in Hawaii it was like my kind [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► of found comic books and I said dad can [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► I have [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► can I have a comic and he said you get [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► him a couple comics and I brought three [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► up to the cash register but I told you [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► this how's it going I brought three and [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► my dad said I said you could have a [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► couple and I said three as a couple and [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► dad said three is a few uh I had that up [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► until junior high I thought a couple [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► meant like a handful you know a couple I [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► think it was five a couple is two a few [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► is two two four yeah a few was to 250 I [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► didn't realize a couple always meant to [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► I didn't realize that until like junior [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► high [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► well I still don't believe it no but my [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► dad said you can't you know you can have [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► zero because I said you could I said you [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► could have a couple and you brought up a [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► few seconds there oh shit dog that is [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► harsh well that's why I remember this [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► was it was probably snow I don't know I [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► don't know it was a hard become okay but [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► I I remember the store I remember the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► light in of the day I remember the dirt [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► of the road and the little town that we [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► were in and the whole experience of [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► being on this long car ride with him in [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► Hawaii because it was just solidified in [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► this moment of like I had three comic [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► books in my hand I was at the cash [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► register and those comic books went away [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► because I didn't I did not parse the [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► difference between a couple and a few I [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► remember I I did not buy a lot of comic [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► books gonna have a lot of dough for that [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► kind of thing but I feel this might been [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► when my dad was alive was definitely [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► more still at our other house where he [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► had lived but so I might have been eight [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► maybe nine and I had some kind of a DC [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► comic I picked up you know 25 cents 35 [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► cents I am I'm it had hippies in it and [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► I think I've tried to find this over the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► years I feel like it might have been a [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► Superman or probably a Batman or maybe [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► like a Justice not Justice League [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► whatever was called whatever the [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► Superfriends were the Superfriends I [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► guess but my mom I remember feeling very [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► ashamed that my mom took it away from me [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► because she thought it was objectionable [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► I think she thought it had like drug [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► things I remember she put it on top of [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the dresser and I at one time I snuck [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► into her room and got one last look at [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► the forbidden comic and that I never saw [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► it again [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► the forbidden comic were hip [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► he's appeared hippies and and where the [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► hippies like bad with a lot of hippies [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► were like we're getting into a Pizza Hut [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► tumblr type situation cuz I feel like I [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► remember it having like I was probably [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► titillated [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► I'm gonna guess by like girls in [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► lavender or mini dresses because I was a [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► big fan of Mod Squad and I had a huge [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► crush on Julie she was one of my first [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► crush crushes and then you get that [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► Peggy Lipton right so like you know her [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► daughter was on the Parks and Rec it's [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► crazy stuff I don't know it was on the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► Mod Squad [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► I don't we didn't get the Mod Squad okay [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► was that a good show was it like [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► untouchable it was one of those like TV [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► is trying to get cool in the late [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► sixties shows - yes and it was it was a [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► it was the main guy the black guy and [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► the pretty girl and and the three of [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► them were the Mod Squad and they would [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► solve crimes but doing undercover things [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► you know like 21 Jump Street yeah I [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► guess so I reckon it was I reckon yeah [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► but I think it also I feel like in my [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► head in this guy again this could be a [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► Pizza Hut tumblr situation cuz I very [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► clearly remember those red Tom where's [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► the Pizza Hut and also I think it had [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► like guys with roger McGuinn glasses and [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► like indian headband oh sure of course [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► of course you know the look like I'm 21 [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► Jump Street was exactly like that they [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► wanted to do stories about gangs but [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► they couldn't they couldn't use actual [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► red or no colors and so like their gang [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► yellow and the cruds [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► yeah the lemon drops and I think they're [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► wearing roger mcginn glasses like man [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► you wanna buy some squeak-squeak not a [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► thing yeah this new drug it's called [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► pistol-whip the kids are doing it [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► and yes so anyway that's I got you away [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► from your pants hey Adriano Goldsmith [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► you know I'm telling you I'm here to [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► tell you like Peter Schaffer says in the [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► play Equus moments snap together like [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► magnets [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► there's no way to have any you don't get [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► much control over what decides to stick [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► around how you remember it whether you [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► remember it and having just watched [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► cocoa yesterday [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► which is a very very good movie now of [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► course I'm thinking a lot about memory [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► it's Coco the movie about about a an ape [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► I loved this movie so much I don't want [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► to say too much I would just say it's a [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► very good Pixar movie it has a lot is [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► based around the Day of the Dead and a [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► Mexican family Oh on day the day and [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► it's it's really really good I didn't [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► cry oh yeah I love that gorilla yeah [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► like a hundred different sign languages [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► if I'm a different Coco different Coco [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► Coco cool I got the kitten and then it [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► was terrible watching it was wonderful [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► it was beautiful shining disc meet [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► Coco's new kittens I gotta stop the show [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► is Coco alive still uh I think Coco I [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► don't know it's gonna be a Rosanna [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► situation did they replace the Coco it [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► looks to be according to the internet [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► science site looks like Coco still alive [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► you know Coco I mean girl was 46 years [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► old dude and she's still out there [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► talking to kittens and we don't we don't [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► have like a lot [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► I mean God bless the hippo at the [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► Cincinnati Zoo it's a really cute hippo [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► god bless all my cute animals that said [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► why are we just not getting 24/7 Coco [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► well yeah why doesn't Coco's why don't [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► we have a Coco in every community that [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► people could just go interact with I [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► think it's got to be pretty labor [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► intensive to teach a a gorilla how to [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► sign but I also think why are we not [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► doing that I mean we're spending we're [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► spending tons and tons of money building [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► the f-35 and that sister it's a lot less [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► useful than being able to sign with apes [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► did I tell you I got scammed by cheetahs [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► owner say what okay so you're in for [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► Tarzan movies yes okay I'm pretty sure I [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► got scammed cuz here's the thing there's [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► this guy I gotta look this up see this [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► is another thing I hadn't even bothered [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► to look up but cheetah the original [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► cheetah from the Tarzan movies was like [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► basically in this you know not a hospice [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► but like a retirement like a like a [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► monkey retirement home [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► jim-jim sorry chimps are monkeys anyway [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► you know I'm staying here you [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► don't don't write us don't add us no no [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► no but basically this guy took care of [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► cheetah and the idea was we're gonna [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► cover cheetahs expenses oh by the way I [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► didn't mention cheetah reportedly loves [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► to paint she cheated and cheetah would [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► make these paintings and this fella you [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► could buy an original Chi cheetah canvas [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► and that money was used to help cheetah [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► I still had in my house one of these [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► that I bought and I remember from the [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► moment I got it I thought huh I'm not [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► I'm not an artist or an art critic but [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► looking at this this does not look like [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► knowing a little bit that I know about [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► people and children in particular in [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► some animals if you give an animal [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► some animals if you give an animal [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► Oh paint what they make will not look [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► anything like what you would expect [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► imagine it's gonna be like there's gonna [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► be big splotches in this area nothing [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► over here this is a very uniform like [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► strokes of purple and kind of [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► complementary colors and I was like this [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► I don't know about this I'm pretty sure [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure as a jamup I'm pretty [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► sure the dude painted it I feel like if [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► you went on line and said cheetah paint [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► and see now I got a look I bet you [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► there's a video of cheetah actually [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► painting paintings and you can you can [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► go and verify this cheetah no H because [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► ice I actually there's a place there's a [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► place where elephants are given paint [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► brushes and and canvases okay and and [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► it's the similar type of thing they sell [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► the paintings in order to raise money [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► for the elephants yeah and I work well [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► yeah right but also you know the idea [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► being that an elephant has all this [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► depth and sensitivity and if you get if [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► you teach them to paint they can I mean [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► it really helps them emotionally oh okay [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► all right that's super interesting to me [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► I have watched hours and hours of maybe [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► not hours but let's say I've watched a [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► lot more than one of elephants painting [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► okay and they seem to really really do [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► it enthusiastically and and you do [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► really feel like they get the idea they [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► understand that they're making art and I [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► I was on the very very edge of buying a [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► giant elephant artwork several times and [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► the thing was they they put them up at [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► each individual piece and I went through [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► them many times like which one of these [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► you know and I would narrow it down to a [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► couple and then I I never pulled the [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► trigger because I honestly I felt like [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► the elephant had yet to do its best work [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► oh okay it's still a young artist I was [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► waiting for them to mature I was waiting [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► for their paintings to mature and so [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► that I mean because they the painting [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► spoke to me but there was just there was [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► this feeling of like nascent talent that [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► was like it just needed a little bit [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► more time with paint a little bit more [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► time it's like wackadoo enough to feel [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► like naive art like your friend your [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► friend they are collecting drummer now [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► does he have anything that's been [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► painted by animals [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► no he does not does he likes folky naive [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► art is that his thing no not quite not [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► quite all the way to that he likes but [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► it's all his art is mostly figurative [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► it's not just like splattered paint on a [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► canvas it's usually like a painting of a [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► thing no my friend rainy Egan who lives [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► with you in San Francisco California he [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► does so he lives over over by the park [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► got the guy insulted when I was drunk [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► that time that was a total moment one [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► day I will be as absolutely unfiltered [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► as Merlin Mann in this moment of your [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► clients to be able to afford this house [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► forgetting for alcohol reasons I don't [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► think you see me like not being quite [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► myself maybe I was too much myself that [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► night there was also some herbs involved [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► that night and that might have been part [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► of it you were tying it on sometimes [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► rock and roll buddy and we're having a [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► this was after MC Hammer's birthday [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► party wasn't it yeah yeah same night [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► after you spit on the streetcar and they [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► went to this guy's massive massive house [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► where he lived alone in a streetcar [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► yeah the streetcar Twitter account said [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► hey that still has an impact [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► we watched elf last night and I as of [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► last night I'm giving up on trying to [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► help my daughter remember this I was [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► like hey hey that time that guy came [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► over in the wind Burke of that morning [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► when that tall guy with the dark hair he [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► used to be married to that elf girl hmm [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► she's like I don't know I don't [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► understand any of the words that he just [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► said she's not usually blonde but they [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► used to be married and she was a singer [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► with them Ward and she's like why are [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► you still talking let's just watch the [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► movie [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► what no who do you who you impressing [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► with this me showing her the email the [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► time I emailed Bill Hader like I'm [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► supposed really impress her or something [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► yeah yep yep the kids don't care [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► they don't care although I it was nice [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► he was a gentleman he came over the [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► house was like hey what's this guy doing [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► in my house look at this guy yeah he's a [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► gentleman he's a gentleman I'm friends [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► with Casper baby pants yes and being [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► friends with couchsurfing dance within [TS]