Roderick on the Line

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00:00:04 ◼   ► hello guy John man how's it going good [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► how are you going I'm going pretty good [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► all right yeah yeah it feels weird to do [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► this on Thursday yeah it's weird right [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► what do you normally do on Thursdays [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► Thursdays usually my um my admin day oh [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► you do admin well you know people love [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► people have jobs there's that phrase I'm [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► working from home yeah yeah yeah so [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► Thursday I mean oh you know well for men [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► it usually means masturbation um but it [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► this Thursday's my day when I usually [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► take care of lots of little things that [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► just kind of keep things running do you [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► do you - do you do that I mean do you [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► take care of little things or is it just [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► the day that you set aside to take care [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► of little things and then get distracted [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► well you know it is it's an ongoing it's [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► like painting the Golden Gate Bridge [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► right you're always paying the Golden [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► Gate Bridge you're never done painting [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► the Golden Gate Bridge hmm you know but [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► that's like there's always like [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► basically it takes a year the way it's [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► scheduled is and supposedly it takes a [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► year to paint the Golden Gate Bridge and [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► so basically you know you're just you [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► you're painting it your painting parts [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you're painting it you're never not [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► painting the Golden Gate Bridge does it [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► always need some painting I understand [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► that and I love that yeah it's like life [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► has boat ownership so it could be stuff [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► that's as simple as it could be just [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► like day-to-day stuff like I want to [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► make sure we're caught up on dishes and [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► pans cuz maybe got a chicken pan that's [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► been sitting around for a day or two [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► tricking Ramji chicken pan sometimes you [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► just don't clean the chicken pan right [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► you know what I mean I've never cleaned [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► a chicken pan but then I don't generate [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► chicken pans we generate chicken pants [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► were a chicken family we do a lot of [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► things in pans and and but then it could [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► be stuff moving up the ladder you get [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► into the equally boring stuff like make [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► sure that there is toilet paper in the [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► house and that it has been properly [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► located to the bathroom where needed [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► deployed cats don't this applies I hate [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► to interrupt but no doesn't your toilet [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► paper isn't that on some kind of Amazon [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► Prime alert the system where it's [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► connected to your nest or something and [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► when you when you get down at just Auto [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► or yeah yeah yeah it knows that when we [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► drop down to about [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► see 8 degrees it's time for toilet paper [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► some of those things you can do but you [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► gotta be careful because then you end up [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► with too many paper towels and then you [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► gotta put that somewhere buddy it's a [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► little bit of an art but I go through I [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► go through all the pantries because this [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► is super interesting but this is what I [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► do on Thursdays I go through all the [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► pantries to make sure are we running out [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► of that soy milk drink my daughter likes [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► all the stuff all the stuff that nobody [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► but me thinks about are we running out [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► of half-and-half I do all those things [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► and I take care of those kinds of things [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► and I try to fit in on a Thursday I try [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► to fit in some kind of a nice to have [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► like I try to do a nice family thing [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► surprising family thing on Thursdays and [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► then Friday 3 times I go see a movie you [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► ever get a you ever get a bag of lint [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► lint balls just for the table you come [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► in you see a table just want that pizza [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► right up but it's my idea power [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► puttering in a lot of ways and you know [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► but it's nice to talk to you they feel [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► like it's been a long time does anybody [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► in the house your house use half and [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► half besides you [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► honestly I am mostly off half and a half [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► well which makes it difficult because if [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► everybody's doing lots of half and half [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► it's actually easier to manage if you [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► have zero people doing half a half it's [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► not a problem right if you have somebody [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► to people who are doing lots of [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► half-and-half you're getting it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► regularly enough the trouble is you get [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► yourself you get a quart of [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► half-and-half and it goes a lot faster [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► than you think especially if you don't [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► remind your husband you need to get more [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► of it uh back in the day you went [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► through more half-and-half than anybody [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► that any two people I ever saw I made it [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► it was more like a Starbucks drink what [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► I used to make it now right here like [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► the thing I just made for for our [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► program that's just black coffee [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► not just black Petes coffee but people [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► calling Brooklyn's favorite sign he's a [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► big part of the Dutch culture oh yeah [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah he had to change his name in [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► Ellis Island [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► what's stupid mmm but you know what I've [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► also what I do now I do a very Roderick [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► ish thing a lot of days especially I'm [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► gonna do some morning puttering at the [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► house hmm and so I'm really into those [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► like you get some you know I like [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► beakers and flasks I just like the way [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► that they look what I do too so I'll [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► take a 1 take a 1000 milliliter a 1 [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► liter beaker like a regular old [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► straight-up beaker still do the top with [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► ice and then I'll cover that with hot [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► coughing I'll drink that oh no [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► half-and-half oh that's beautiful it's [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► real real good I have some giant beakers [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► Easter Stein's [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► I'm drinking out of a Stein right now my [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► current today's Stein is a vintage oh [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► it's a Lowenbrau Stein from Munchen in [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► Deutschland here's to good friends [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► tonight is kind of special that's right [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► I think this is a different kind of [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► lowenbrau but but yeah yeah but I in the [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► summertime I use my giant beakers to [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► make iced tea mm-hmm and then it's [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► somewhere between a personal amount and [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► something you'd share with others it's [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► mostly just a very very large portion [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► for you well these beakers that I have [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► are a foot tall or Oh 18 inches tall [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► they're like very very you can barely [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► fit them in the refrigerator well it's a [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► multi liter unit yeah right and I [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► sometimes I'll make one with ice tea and [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► one with lemonade and then you know and [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► then I just feel like I don't want to [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► drink anything out of them because [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► they're so perfect as they are looking [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► here 2 liter graduated I'll look at that [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► Oh see now this is a real oh this is [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► made by Corning so it's very costly [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► mm-hmm I don't usually get the Corning [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► brand because they're very very costly [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► do other brands meet your specs well not [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► as much as I'd like but the truth is you [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► can get a lot of knockoff stuff feel [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► cheap you know what they want what these [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► with these animals a Corning one for a [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► two liter graduated low form Gryphon [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► beaker $12 hundred and $19 that's [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► outrageous that's that's a little more [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► than I'd like to spend I feel like you [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► can get these at medical and scientific [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► supply [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► auction type there are situations like [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► surplus situations but you don't know [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► what's been in those beakers I know I [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► know it's certainly something to think [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah you see [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► there's a lot here but you know this is [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► a lot this is not so dissimilar from our [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► philosophy of making all the bacon mm-hm [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► you know when you're gonna make the tea [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► might as well make all the tea think as [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► I make a tea and this is really bad but [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► we don't we haven't for a while had like [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► an iced tea [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► would you call it like a we call it [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► pitcher so I just use a blender I'm [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► making the blender that's sad [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's real sad what I'll do is [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► I'll so here what I use I make that [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► linton's that really cheap Lipton's iced [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► tea mix mix look you don't tell me you [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► put in a bag or two of that and used up [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► his Finn Taft a liter of boiling water [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► and then you just cover it with ice and [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► you got iced tea so I gotta do well you [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► put the you put the boiling water okay [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► all right I mean you always add an extra [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► step that feels fancy oh thank you thank [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► you yeah it's the little things you know [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the little things and then drinking it [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► you know then you put it put a put it [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► put a blender in your fridge makes your [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► wife happy to come home and see a black [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► 40 but you don't know it's um you don't [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► blend it right you don't you don't use [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► it as a blender function I should have [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► said no no no no it's the picture for [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► the blender device that is water [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► you know resistant what would happen if [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► you blended iced tea just keep itself [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► just with itself [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► you didn't blend it with anything else I [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► have to imagine it would be different [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► just for because of physics yeah I would [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► aerate it it would make you light and [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► fluffy you know me er you get it you get [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► a foamy foamy fluffy or you get like a [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► Vitamix you get one of those really [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► serious ones that you can grind up a [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► celery in yeah mm-hmm well now take the [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► tea put in the boiling water which seems [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► like the fancy step extra fancy put the [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► ice in on the top of it in the blender [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► and then blended the bags right yeah [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► okay you wouldn't want to have the bags [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► and oh wait so you're saying let it [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► steep yeah what I do is this is I'm just [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► following the directions on the cheapo [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► Lipton tea but I think it's Fred forgets [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► if it's one giant bag or two giant bags [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► in a while yeah yeah you didn't put the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► Boy Wonder now you got a super strong [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► tea you couldn't lend that and then add [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the water but I'm guessing just because [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► of the the accretion of molecules that [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► adding ice to basically bring it up [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► you could make a slushy you can make an [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► iced tea slushy an iced tea slushy and [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► drink it out with a little baseball cap [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► like from a 7-eleven but if your iced [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► tea slushy then melted in the in the [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► refrigerator over the course of days [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► turns EMT it's a good thing it's though [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► be indistinguishable from an iced tea [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► made conventionally find out and that's [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► science I'm gonna need to buy it two [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► blenders and I'm gonna do a side-by-side [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► a a longitudinal study two blenders [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► because in order for the study to have a [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► control blender you'd have the normal [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► tea in the blender that you're not using [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► as a blender I mean how would you do it [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► well you could instead of buying another [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► blender you can just buy a picture but [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► isn't that that's not science is it no I [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► wouldn't be you wouldn't have a control [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► cuz then you get leaching you get [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► molecular leaching off the edges of the [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► the other one well and who knows how [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► much like psychic reverberation there is [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► inside a blender yeah I mean I can kind [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► of blender ever really be empty I mean [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► the very if you're an ice cube or a tea [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► bag and you go and you go in a blender [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► okay you've got to be conscious of those [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► blades even if they're not hooked up to [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► the blender treat to every firearm like [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► it's loaded that's exactly it [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► I can't kid to understand that concept [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► like play with a bunch of unloaded [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► firearms and I'm like yeah no I got a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► wrist rocket that I have to have not put [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► into production yet and she really likes [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► to play with it I'm really trying to [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► persuade her to not play with the wrist [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► rocket she'd like to play with it in the [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► house well it's not loaded but it is if [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► you imagine you may this is a really [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► really nice wrist rocket [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► it's got like surgical tubing and it's [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► got a compound crossbow type component [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► to it and I member serves I think it has [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► a camo grip what is your imagined use [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► for this high-tech wrist [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► I loved wrist rockets as a kid and I was [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► very destructive with them and that was [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► that was something I think actually it [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► was somebody got it for me as a gift off [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► my Amazon list and I had not put it into [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► production yet I'm imagining my daughter [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► will and I will go into the woods and we [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► will bond we're not gonna hide four [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► things because nothing sadder than [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► winning a bird you know it's true [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► did you do it don't don't points this [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► number - don't point it don't point [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► anything in any anyone you know unless [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► you're trying to kill it yeah unless [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► you're gonna send a marble up its ass [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► did you gut did you get good at risk [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► rocket it sounds like you did I get [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► pretty good at rest rocket I I was [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► pretty good those kinds of peasant [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► weapons you get you get the capoeira you [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► get the bo staff you get all the stuff [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► like oh-ho yeah you know the the guy who [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► owns all the land says you're not [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► allowed to learn how to fight so you got [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► to come up with all these like like hey [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► I got a pitchfork or whatever I was good [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► with that I was good at snapping towels [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► I was great in shooting paper clips from [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► rubber bands [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► I could shoot I was really good at [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► shooting McDonald's coffee stirrers with [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► a rubber band [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► pretty much all of the ad hoc child [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► weapons I was pretty good at I could [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► have been on some kind of a Ocean's [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► eleven team I think so like how about [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► spit balls pretty good with spitballs [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► you're talking like with a straw spit [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► balls with a strong spit balls as a [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► weapon any kind of Oh like yeah it's a [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► weapon of annoyance obviously but yeah I [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► mean but like when you're lonely [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► everything is fun so I just sit in the [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► room and just spot on the wall with them [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► can you imagine an Ocean's eleven [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► scenario where there's like the the [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► peasant peasant weapons kid and there's [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► some button all the way across the room [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► and everybody's like how do we get to [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► the button like the alarm or whatever be [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► like it's sharp and it can't be a bullet [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► what do we have that's hard but soft and [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► can be shot from a distance by somebody [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► who's some kind of a genius with [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► accuracy yeah and we couldn't get in [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► here with anything metal because of the [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► metal detectors and then the kid pulls [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► out the straw and it's just like leave [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► it to me his name's Steven he never [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► talks and then does it yeah how about [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► did you did you have the did you make [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► wooden guns with with like paperclip or [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► go close they write know that girls like [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► a Boy Scout kind of thing right yeah [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► yeah I don't think I ever did you like [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► to set things on fire is that right I [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► was a pyro yeah and I was always trying [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► to I was always trying to use household [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► items to make bombs or napalm yeah and I [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► didn't really you made homemade homemade [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► napalm I did yeah [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► and you know it's not that hard to make [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► there are a lot of different recipes for [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► it it's not safe no I mean it's not [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► napalm isn't gonna spontaneously explode [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► but if it does get on you you're in it's [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► harder to get off that's the that's why [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► yeah so they do it's why they call that [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► napalm mm-hmm look at jelly gasoline is [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► the idea yeah it's like gasoline with [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► any kind of laundry detergent or you [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► know I was making malt off bills all the [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► time and trying to figure out what the [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► best recipe for those was and I know I [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► guess partly it's growing up in a rural [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► or semi-rural area where a kid can go [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► out into the into the acre forested lot [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► in between the two apartment complexes [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► and just start fires all day and yeah [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► nobody ever that was back when nobody [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► ever like went up to a kid and said what [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► are you doing kid it was just like oh [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► yeah I've just over here starting fires [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► and there were adults around they drove [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► by they drove by and could see the [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► bonfires I was great citizens I just [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► picture what it must have looked like me [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► like like stirring a big cauldron of you [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► would be in a special school so freakin [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► fast today yeah I would I mean and who [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► wasn't cool who's the guy who found [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► stuff in your locker was disappointed [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► jackal FIR disappointed by that point in [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► time I was in high school but this is [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► all stuff that I would I've told you [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► before right though being a latchkey kid [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► was its own kind of like joy and also [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► psychic punishment none of my friends [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► were latchkey kids they all came home [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► and their mom [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► was there mm-hmm and she had little [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► sandwiches for them and then there was [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► TV time and disc hits and I got home and [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► at my mom's house you know I carry the [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► key around my neck on a piece of red [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► yarn just a single key [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► my dad didn't lock his house so [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► depending on whose house I went to after [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► school you know I'd go in and then it [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► was like okay entertain yourself for the [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► rest of the day and I would do a lot of [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► things that I imagined were scientific I [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► mean even involved like mixing things [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► together laundry detergents seeing how [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► much stuff I could flush down the toilet [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► did you ever go through a phase like [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► that no I was I I was always toilet [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► reverse did you have did you did you [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► have a like junior science kit no John [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► did and I envied it a little bit but and [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► this was even back in the day when you [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► could make little explosions and stuff I [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► think I I liked again once again I like [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► the beakers and a cam I think with some [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► tweezers and a dropper maybe some [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► reagent whatever that is all the science [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► things that you did you have stuff like [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► that that did that appeal to you [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► the science kit was like the book and [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► and devices that tried to teach you how [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► to do magic mm-hmm [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► I loved people would give me like junior [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► magician kid or junior scientist kit and [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► like you I loved the beakers I loved the [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► little hollow coins and the foam balls [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► and the rings and you put out microfilm [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► in there all that stuff but what I [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► didn't love was reading the instructions [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► and I didn't love going through I think [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► one reason I despised magicians today is [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► because I had such a difficult time [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► trying to make the cup of balls happen [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► it was you know or the coin where you [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► got to do the sleight of hand work and [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► all that kind of stuff you know being a [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► magician is I have always felt like it's [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► an example kind of like being a really [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► good guitar player or really good at [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► anything all of those things require the [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► yeah that weird that weird feeling where [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► you envy someone for what must have been [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► a really boring young life and you envy [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► them their anxiety or whatever it was [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► that that that that drove them to sit [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► and play six hours a day [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► loneliness combined with like obsessive [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► nature and the curiosity combined with [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► the willingness and time frame to be [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► able to practice this for hours and [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► hours and hours until it seemed like a [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► normal thing it's crazy because you look [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► at Ricky Jay there you go this guy I [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► watch him all day I love him so much but [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► to get that good at cards and stay that [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► good at cards you would have to be so [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► different from me mmm-hmm and and and to [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► do it just seems like murder I bet he [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► never thinks about toilet paper the way [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► they make it look in those mini movies [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► I've seen about him is that he just sits [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► in a hotel room and like basically just [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► shuffles cards for six hours a day [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► that's just like it he does yeah which [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► is which is great you know considering [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► like there are a lot of people that sit [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► in a hotel room and just bite their [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► fingernails or or I mean it's it'd be [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► great to have a thing that you swatch [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► was chopped yeah but but as someone who [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► didn't have that kind of patience or [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► makeup and and I think part of it and [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► probably as he's doing it his mind is [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► elsewhere but I I always had what I [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► consider to be the advantage of being [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► able to sit for long periods of time and [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► just stare at a spot on the wall I [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► always thought I always felt like in [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► some ways that was my superpower because [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► I never got bored I could just you could [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► just sit me somewhere and turn my chair [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► facing the corner and I would just drift [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► off into a world of make-believe ding [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► ding said of mr. Rogers reference yeah [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► Lady Elaine and I would stay I would sit [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► in my land of make-believe until [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► something some [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► times someone had to come and actually [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► shake me because from across the room [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► they'd been saying John John and I was [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► just a thousand miles away I used to [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► really worry my dad but my mom was very [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► protective of it I think because her dad [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► was like that mm-hmm so I was just [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► sitting staring out the window and I [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► didn't need couldn't I it was so much [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► more preferable to do that than it would [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► have been to be manipulating cards or [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► reading instruction manuals but but now [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► I see it as kind of like oh that was [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► maybe a disadvantage in that all all [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► that does is train you to well either [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► train you to do that or like it makes [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► your land of make-believe very real to [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► you is it possible that these are [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► different flavors of a young person [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► dealing with young demon dogs we're like [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► you discover like I was not cut out for [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► magic because I don't have the patience [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► or the dexterity or really to be honest [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► the interest but for somebody else like [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► I'm like a Ricky J or like like my [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► friend Jaime like somebody who will just [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► sit there and like every spare moment [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► they'll be like there's a coin in their [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► hand or there's a card in their hand [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► it's it's more like a lifestyle right [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► for you that might be conjuring a [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► fireball or looking at a window or [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► playing World War two again like but I [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► wonder if in some ways like we you find [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► an accommodation for your for your [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► little your your demon puppies I think [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► so I mean you think about kids that [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► suffering from anxiety there are a lot [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► of them and you know rather than sit and [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► fidget with your thumbnail until you [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► don't have a thumbnail anymore if you [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► could put cards in that kid's hand and [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► say like just do the cards I think [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► probably people self-soothe a lot like [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► that and my self-soothing yeah was there [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► was a lot of world war do okay and the [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► fire the burning I'm sure there's been [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► plenty of like science around pyromaniac [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► kids I didn't want to hurt anybody I [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► didn't want to burn out of control fires [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► I loved keeping the fire under control [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► there's a lot [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► I don't think it's just as simple as [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► like oh you're a psycho bed-wetter like [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► calcula kid who sets fires there's like [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► you say they're the element control [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► there's the element of like [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► theatricality there's there's a lot to [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► it I would dig pits [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► I would I would slip down I mean I would [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► go through people I'd find like an open [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► garage and I'd go in there and I would [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► find everything that said flammable on [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► it and I would collect an armload of of [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► different stuff right different kinds of [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► flavors of things and I would go see [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► what how they burned and what happened [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► if you put them together did they burn [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► differently and the colors that they [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► made and I loved aerosol stuff because [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► just give you some right guard and a [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► lighter that's living but I often did it [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► I often would just sit in the house my [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► dad had one of those fireplaces that was [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► you could flick a switch and some fire [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► would come like a gas gasp a gas [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► fireplace but it but you could put logs [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► in it to cool the gas was kind of a fire [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► starter maybe you'd put some logs in [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► turn on the flip the switch and it would [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► start a fire for this episode of [TS]

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00:25:05 ◼   ► that's a controlled environment you got [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► it you got a pit that you can live with [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► there it was nice I would and I was home [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► alone you know after school and I would [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► sit there sometimes with spray paint [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► which also is a great flame thrower and [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► I would just light the spray paint and [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► just blow it into the fireplace just [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► like and and looking at that now in my [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► imagination it seems a little crazy I [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► think about some I was such a safe unday [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► ngerous non-threatening good kid but I [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► think just just the toilet alone I'm [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► terrified of what could happen to our [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► toilet just because I think about oh [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► please be careful with what you put down [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► the toilet cuz now you know I'm an old [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► man and it's my obligation to think [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► about what we put in the toilet [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► I used to ruin the toilet I put so many [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► things in the toilets just a little to [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► see what will it accommodate a sponge [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► like I would just do that oh wow a [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► sponge minor recoils you put things in [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► there and it just goes away but the nice [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► thing about your dad's gas fire [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► situation is you've already it's got its [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► own little I'm not a crucible but it's [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► AB it's a fire resistant area so you're [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► a safe space but when he came home at [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► night I can't imagine what like residue [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► in terms of smell and other just [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► like the just the poly fluorocarbons in [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► the air chlorofluorocarbons he walks in [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► the door and his sons been been burning [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► gold spray paint in the fireplace all [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► afternoon what does that smell like what [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► is that what are the what are the [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► psychic reverberations in the air of [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► that oh yeah when I come in the house I [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► can tell if my daughter's been doing [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► like nail stuff like it soon as I open [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► the door I'm super sensitive like what [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► is that that benzene we got a link [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► what's going on in here what's what's [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► like 50s dad all of a sudden yeah I you [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► know okay so what's funny is life right [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► if you're just if one were to say to me [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► I know you're not but if one were to say [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► to me did you ever play with matches my [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► mind would instantly like I would do the [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► heads up scan and I would go no I didn't [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► play with matches because you say so [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► many plays with matches it's somebody [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► who goes and sets fires right that's [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► somebody who's eight as they say a [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► pyromaniac in the usual sense I'll tell [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► you though dead honest I didn't [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► generally play with matches I very [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► specifically played with matches if I'm [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► honest I liked taking a match and then [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► taking another match you'd like one [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► match and then you'd like the other [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► match from the first match then you [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► could make a little teepee you can make [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► a little teepee with all the little [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► little fiery parts all together at the [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► top that might be ping pong you like the [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► bottom of the teepee and guess what you [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► get wasn't that sad it's fine when you [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► get up and I say one time at our [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► restaurant I was killing time over the [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► anklet room and the in the side room we [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► used for for catered affairs and yeah I [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► had a big big ball of fire and an [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► ashtray shattered and then everyone came [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► running in yeah maybe maybe you should [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► be a busboy or something cuz this the [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► fire in the restaurant situation this [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► was in a time for our younger listeners [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► there were cigarette machines everywhere [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► everywhere matches matches matches and [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► toothpicks matches in toothpicks [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► everywhere you go all the matches you [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► could ever want all the matches you [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► could want and cigarette machines also [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► often the deluxe ones had a button on [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► them that if you bought a pack of [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► cigarettes and you push the [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► it would also give you a pack of matches [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► like a little fold over paper Jesus that [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► had the logo of the of the bar well huh [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and most people who bought a pack of [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► cigarettes did not also need a pack of [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► matches because they had fancy lighters [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► from Vietnam and so as a kid who was in [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► and out of bars a lot because of my [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► father and the fact that he didn't have [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► clear boundaries [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► well his work anytime I saw a cigarette [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► machine I would walk over find the [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► button and push it did you find yourself [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► having to kill time in a bar oh I was [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► constantly killing time in bar got to [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► talk about this okay so you get the free [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► matches that somebody left behind yeah [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► go get the free matches I would go you [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► know I've told you before right then I [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► would I'd go grab a barstool and ask the [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► bartender for a shot of whipped cream [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► and you know 80% of the time the [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► bartender and the person sitting next to [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► me on a barstool thought it was great [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► and the bartender bring me a shot of [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► whipped cream and then you know it's [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► kind of like putting peanut butter in a [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► Kong you can't just get whipped cream [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► out of a shot quest that easily that [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► John might be a golden retriever [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► grown-ups thought that was great and [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► then somebody would bring me a basket of [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► peanuts or popcorn and but you know [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► there that was in an era when nobody [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► felt it was their responsibility to mind [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► somebody else's kids so after a while [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► I'd get bored I climbed down off the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► barstool it's terrible wandering around [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► the bar trying doorknobs yeah oh I'm a [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► big dude I'm still a big doorknob Trier [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► you always try I always try a doorknob [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► goes where it leads it may lead into [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► fuckin area it could be not it could [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► just it's an invitation to mystery and [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► you'll never know you lose every [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► doorknob you don't try I try to get my [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► daughter to understand this I really [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► like woods well the phrase we use for it [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► I call it quote breaking into things so [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► we like to like places with his offense [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I'm super into crawling under the fence [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► geez now that she's older she doesn't [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► like it she's scared she'll get in [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► trouble I'm still super into breaking [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► into the local high school and trying [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► every door [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► and seeing what room we can get into [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► because somebody's always you think this [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► coach you know those coaches are making [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► they leave so many things unlocked they [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► do there's so many you can get one day [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► we got in under the stands one day we [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► got in with the weightlifting equipment [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► one day we got in where they keep the [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► shot puts oh my god I love a doorknob my [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► eyes I'm in a hotel I'm walking around [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► we state the hotel over Thanksgiving [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► that was brand brand new hotel in [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► Sacramento I tried every doorknob it's [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► amazing how weak the security is on a [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► new hotel fuck yeah you go right into [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► you go right into a hotel room you just [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► walking anywhere in that area where it [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► says no entry that's usually not lock [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► now what the keycard thing it's gotten [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► more complicated but a lot of times they [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► just leave that open and then you see [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► their sheets and they're you going - oh [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► my god there's an elevator here I didn't [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► know about that's good to know [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► now you know there's an elevator there I [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► spent that when keycards first got [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► introduced a friend of mine and I were [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► in a hotel that had brand-new keycard [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► you know locks we were just trying [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► doorknobs door opened it was into a [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► hotel room we went in there and started [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► ordering room service and watching cable [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► TV and they brought us food to the room [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► because I guess the the room service [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► there weren't computers exactly or like [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► not all hooked together now when you [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► pick up the phone they go mr. Roderick [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► in 1:03 floor well how can I help you [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► today but then it was like can we get [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► two pizzas two room you know for 74 and [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► I mean we were definitely like sitting [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► on the edge of the bed waiting like that [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► we were in a state of mild panic the [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► whole time like what are they gonna find [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► us when are we gonna get busted but we [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► never did and eventually we we we [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► worried about the house dick some of the [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► house dick to come get you well but it [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► was like a Sheraton thanks probably but [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► the thing that the thing that I think [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► it's hard to convey is that in the 70s [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► and the early 80s there was a lot of [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► stuff left over from the 50s [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► everywhere because this 80s made the 50s [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► look like this one and you know there [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► hadn't been a tremendous in downtown [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► areas especially there hadn't been a [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► tremendous like urban renewal or [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► revitalization like old buildings were [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► old and if he if you tried enough doors [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► you would find the civil-defense bomb [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► shelter door and you would find the big [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► bins of old flowers if you just made it [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► into an old storeroom nobody counts [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► what's in the storeroom they just don't [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► want to see it out in the non storeroom [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► area you go in the you know how much [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► shit there could be in a storeroom that [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► you could play with there were things in [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► there that were 40 50 years old he would [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► find like just stuff leaning in the [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► corner even in the early 80s it was [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► still kind of the 50s in a lot of places [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► especially in like places like [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► restaurants and bars it was like a time [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► capsule [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it really was he'd find you know like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► you'd go back in some storeroom it's [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► like oh look it's a 48 star flag like [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► they took this flag down in 1950 put it [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► rolled it up and put it in the corner [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► and and there's you know space was cheap [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► so I mean I got a lot of education by [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► just trying doorknobs because you know [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► well like store rooms that had office [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► supplies store rooms that had just mops [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► in buckets but the mops were old mom's [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► like they were think they were hafsat [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► yeah mom said you kind of wanted to be [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► with because they were they felt like [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► like adult stuff like look at these mobs [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► like this is what grown-ups know about [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► mops and files and I mean when when when [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► Watergate was going on I was just old [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► enough to be kind of in the room while [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the TV was on and it was a lot that's [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► some people I sure was people were [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► talking about it a lot and this idea of [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► these burglars but they weren't like the [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► Pink Panther they weren't there to steal [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► a diamond they like went in and we're [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► going through files files and and the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► enduring image I saw I saw the movie [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► yeah no probably junior high or high [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► school but the enduring image for me was [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► when the cop rolls up in the in the [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► beginning to the garage not the cop the [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► a security guard notices what would he [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► notice they put the tape the tape on the [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► door tape on the doors like that [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► so fucking smart the number of times [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► I've put tape on a door in emulation of [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► G gordon liddy I can't even tell you and [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► that's you know and I learned sometime [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► after that probably I must have been [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► nine or ten when someone taught me how [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► to jigger a latch with a credit credit [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► card yeah and for a long long time you [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► could get into sixty percent of the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► doors between I'll tell you buddy I [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► don't even say this I think the times [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► the change is probably safe to say this [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► now something rigid but a little [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► flexible like a credit card and a paper [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► clip almost every house in America every [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► door in every house in America could be [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► unlock with a paper clip paper clip or [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► up or in in in my case it was we had [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► seasons passes for to the ski resort [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► starting when I was seven or eight and [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► there so you didn't have to slide in [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► yeah you had a little laminated card [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► that you could that you carrying around [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► all the time then you could like pop [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► doors and yeah I didn't I never stole [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► anything I mean I never stole anything [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► that seems that seemed like anybody was [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► using it I mean obviously like half half [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► of a cannibal paint and some some paper [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► clips or file folders or whatever empty [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► file folders I would liberate those [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► sometimes in the in the process of a [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► game right if I was like if I'd broken [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► into a storage closet and I was [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► pretending to be the Watergate burglars [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► and I would steal a couple file and then [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► oh I always think about this the other [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► day I was driving downtown and I looked [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► over at a building and it was one of [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► those office buildings from the 1930s [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► that now you kind of don't see them [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► because when you're in a downtown the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► buildings that are most visible are are [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► all these skyscrapers and everybody [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► trying to you know have like an arcade [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► and the downstairs and and then then [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► they're the the iconic buildings the [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► beautiful ones but in the thirties and [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► forties they built a lot of middle [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► height [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► 20-story imposing office buildings [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► but that are and they're made out of [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► stone or brick or you know they're not [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► they're not metal in glass and I was [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► driving past one of these and they have [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► very distinctive vibe and all of a [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► sudden I could just smell it in there I [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► knew those buildings so well because my [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► dad was in government mm-hmm and we were [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► always going into these buildings and [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► you know those buildings are incredible [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► like this the stairwells are all the [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► step the stair steps are marble even [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► even not the formal stairs but like the [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► back stairs the the railings are brass [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► the the doors are solid oak leather [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► there's only restrooms well the quality [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► of restrooms used to be crazy so [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► phenomenal like the the the dividers [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► between stalls were giant slabs of [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► polished marble inna left and you know [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► and that's the sound of of people [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► walking in the halls and those buildings [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► back when every woman was in high heels [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► and every man had leather-soled shoes so [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► you'd stand in those places and [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► government buildings and just hear this [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► like clack clack clack everybody knew [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► that serious adult business was getting [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► done yeah people were snapping their [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► their their shoes I remember when I [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► first had a pair of shoes that that like [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► made that slap slap slap sound on marble [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► I didn't talk talk talk with like a hard [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► heel yeah I felt so adult I bought a [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► pair of shoes like that claw with Tom [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► Waits shoes I bought those at a goodwill [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► probably 1985 and boy I felt very [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► decisive yeah yeah [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► do you ever was when somebody addresses [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► you do you ever click your heels oh I [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► would I should I should do that it is [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► that kind of an Austrian thing that's [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► Christoph Waltz kind of young to do yeah [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► I could see you doing that I got in the [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► habit of clicking my heels sometimes [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► when when someone addressed me with like [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► hey can you help me over here you know [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► like when when there was an air of [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► authority or finality to what somebody [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► was saying I would kind of like if the [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► if the expected reply for me was yes or [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► at your service brass or something if [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► I'm holding a door for somebody to huh [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► and click by here it's not it's not a [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► thing that people do anymore and I feel [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► like it has a little it's a it there's a [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► militaristic aspect to it there's a [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► there's a long arc of history that bends [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► toward you eventually being called [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► Commodore I think you're not far off [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► from just wearing a captain's hat all [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► the time thing about a Commodore you [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► know that's um zen l ron hubbard well [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► it's a kind of weird rank I'm looking at [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► because it's because it's not a rank [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► it's a it's an office oh look at that [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► the president ok says a naval officer of [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► high rank in particular an officer in [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the u.s. Navy or Coast Guard ranking [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► above captain and below Rear Admiral [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► the president also bullet one the [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► president of a yacht club or the senior [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► captain of a shipping line a whole Wow [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► dress for the job you want John so even [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► in the Navy senior captain of a ship how [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► fun for you to be the senior captain of [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► a shipping line well I think that's what [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► what the Hazelwood was or like the [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► senior captain of a shipping line but [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► you've got to be good at the sea oh you [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► can probably get pretty good at the sea [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► I feel like getting good at the sea is [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► like getting good at card so you have to [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► have been getting good at the sea girl [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► you're getting the right kind of lonely [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► with the right timing but you've been on [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► a lot of cruises yeah but I don't think [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► that has anything to do with getting [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► good at the sea I mean I I love to sit [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► and look at the sea but when I get close [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► to the sea the sea you know the sea like [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► has a very low hum yeah the sea is oh [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► the sea is see stuff it's a that's a [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► that's a tough opponent it is it is the [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► sea the sea sea not care know about you [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► they try you throw throw a gallon of [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► water at somebody really hard it kind of [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► hurts and that's just one gallon right [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► you know I'm saying think about think [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► about how many gallons are in the seat [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► like 100 it's gotta be at least 60 or 80 [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► there's so many gallons in there so [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► let's see Commodore I like Commodore [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► also because Commodore extract Smee is [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► the kind of thing we're like you know [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► you can get like a [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► what is it when they give you an [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► honorary Doctorate Commodore seemed like [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► a rank that somebody could convey on you [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► it's exactly right it's exactly right I [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► mean are you familiar with the Kentucky [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► Colonels yes I've known some Kentucky [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► Colonels have you mm-hmm I don't know [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► what tone about it but yeah I mean might [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► we're from Cincinnati the part of [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► Cincinnati that's basically Kentucky [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah absolutely [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► oh my dad knew a lot of Kentucky [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► Colonels I know what's the process for [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► that that's an honorary thing done as [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► far as I understand you have to have [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► done some measurable service to the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► state of Kentucky you probably have to [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► be in Kiwanis or similar well Jason [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► Isbell the singer/guitarist is a [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► Kentucky Colonel and he said that he [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► would recommend me as a Kentucky Colonel [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► because my people are from Kentucky but [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► I do not feel like I have really done [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► that much in the service of the state of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► Kentucky and so it would feel like a [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► Pyrrhic honor I don't think I would wear [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► context like you would ring hollow but [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► this is the thing I don't want to I [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► don't want like like false honor no yeah [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► I steel valor no and and and I don't [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► want like I don't want a bunch of [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► appendages you don't need another white [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► ribbon no thank you [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► if I'm sorry this is the thing about [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► about King Neptune they can never take [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► that away from me to try dad oh yeah of [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► course that's right that's right you [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► mm-hmm I'm not gonna show up to things [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► in a sash but I do have a lapel pin [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► that's just I have a lapel pin that says [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► I was a King Neptune and a couple of [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► times during my King Neptune reign this [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► past summer like little old man would [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► you know kind of toddle up to me with [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► their ear horn and and they would say I [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► was King Neptune in 1961 and we would [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► have this like wonderful little bonding [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► moment because you realize like oh well [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► for you to have been King Neptune in [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► 1961 you must have been like a prominent [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► citizen oh well I was you know oh I [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► would never say that but anyway and you [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► know of course they were sure [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► and it was a nice little thing so I mean [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► I'm there's some future King Neptune - [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► King Neptune of 2060 is gonna get in [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► here are you expected to be grooming [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► that person should you be out there [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► seeking out the next Neptune is that [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► part of your is that part of your duty [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► as a king I had this conversation last [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► night I went to dinner with Peter sagal [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► America's Sweetheart Peter sagal and as [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► the wait wait don't tell me program [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► that's correct they're on tour and so [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► you know when people come through on [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► tour of course I'm I'll go have dinner [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► with them Feuer was like Paula [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► Poundstone Mo Rocca anybody else come [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► along none of those people know but but [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► my - but Curtis didn't come Bill Curtis [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► was not there I think all those guys [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► have sex abuse accusations and with with [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► Ken Jennings my little pal that's right [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► from your new program millennium program [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► your new programs there's another show [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► chuckle omnibus there it is oh and you [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► remember that as being an old show for [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► CBS show oh god yes yeah I love my [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► podcast goes the other day they had [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► heard a podcast about Martha Mitchell [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► and they said oh you know Martha [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► Mitchell and I was like shit do I know [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► about Martha Mitchell you're adorable [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► when you when you say one of your other [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► podcast host I know these people named [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► who can make you can name them by name [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► Tom it's unseemly John don't do that so [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► you went to dinner with Peter sagal [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► who's in the clear so far I was [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► explaining oh that's right barely I was [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► explaining a King Neptune and then the [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► question came up do I have a hand in [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► picking the next Neptune and I thought [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► about it it hadn't occurred to me right [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► it had not occurred to me that that [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► would be some that would be some [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► authority that I should wheel because [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► toward the end of the summer some of the [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► people from Seafarer started sideling up [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► to me and saying we've never done this [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► before but would you be willing to be [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► Neptune again next year well you don't [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► get termed out well you do that's the [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► thing they've never done that before [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► there's never been a King Neptune two [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► years ago so you're like the Franklin D [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► Roosevelt of Neptune's the first King [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► Neptune - ever [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► well I don't know maybe they say that [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► every year and then when it comes time [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► sure a little bit oh you're so good [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► maybe you should do this next year and [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► then you never hear about that again I [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► get that a lot but but I did figure I [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► did get a little I was flattered by that [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► and I would do it again and so I I think [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► that probably clouded my my my sense of [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► duty what I should do I should be the [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► George Washington of King Neptune you [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► hold you hold the country together by [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► not continuing in the job that's right [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► they ask you to be President for life [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► and you say that's not how democracy [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► works and then you'll retire to teach [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► them how to say goodbye [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► so I do feel like I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► start thinking about who the next King [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► Neptune should be and start a kind it's [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► clear to me that if you lead they will [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► follow by which I mean if you get out in [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► front of this and you start you make [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► this the new Kentucky kernel maybe [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► you're out there and like I say grooming [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► well that's the word with this [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► problematic word but you you you get out [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► there and you figure out you try to find [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► some new talent for this some new [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► Neptune material well there's a Neptune [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► yet well there is a there's a Queen [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► Alfea on yeah but I mean has there been [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► a King Neptune that's a woman you could [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► really you could really just try the [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► patriarchy with this you could destroy [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► the patriarchy there was for many many [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► years within the Seafarer organization [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► there was a King Neptune [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► and then there was a Miss Seafarer and [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► King Neptune was some Rotary Club doofus [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► like myself and Miss Seafarer was a [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► glamour it was a glamour position like a [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► like a Miss Mary did she have any point [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► did miss miss affair which really sell [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► the Scientology to me did Missy fair at [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► any point ever appear in a bathing suit [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► no I don't think so I think it was a [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► ball gown style pageant okay but she did [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► have like her attendant princesses hmm [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► so she had a whole Court of people and [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► then the king and they they appeared [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► together but it wasn't like [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► we're always sitting next to each other [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► miss Seafarer was off doing these things [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► the King was off doing these things like [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► the King was drinking Boilermakers [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► somewhere with a bunch of cigar chompers [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► and Missy bear was doing a charity work [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► for the blind okay okay that's nice and [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► then at a certain point in the 80s I'm [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► gonna say they introduced Queen Elsie on [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► who was like separate from Missy fair [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► and it freed Missy Fair up to become [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► kind of like a it's like a scholarship [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► position whoever Missy Fair is there [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► still a pageant aspect to it she still [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► has her her attendants but they're very [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► they're very directed at at charity work [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► they're there they work with young girls [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► they're you know it's there's a lot of [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► the work in the community and typically [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► miss Seafarer at least in recent years [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► has been from one of Seattle's immigrant [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► communities oh that's cool [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► yeah and often am I being weird that's [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► kind of a cool thing to do it's often [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► Asian Pacific island communities I [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► approve of that that seems kind of like [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► a cool thing to do it's great and what [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► it means is that this year miss [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► seafarers from the Philippines next year [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► miss seafarers from Samoa [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► and so so forth and so on so it like it [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► really brings it it sort of illuminates [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► Seattle's diversity and connection to [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► the Pacific Rim and so forth and then [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► Queen Elsie on is a businesswoman [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► somebody that is prominent in the [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► community the expectation you know is [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► that you know she's prominent in the [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► same way that King Neptune is and the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► two of them are expected to be sort of [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► yeah right Chamber of Commerce types [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► business booster or types yeah until me [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► the the closest thing that Seattle had [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► to a hipster King Neptune [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► was tom skerritt tom skerritt was king [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► neptune Skerritt was it was he Trapper [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► John he was Trapper John and mash okay [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► he was he was in he was in Top Gun Tom [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► Skerritt oh how I do the danger zone [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► yeah Tom Skerritt is you know Seattle's [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► yes yeah everybody loves Tom Skerritt [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► he's not problematic is he he's not tom [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► skerritt is and I don't think I'm giving [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► away too much here tom skerritt is [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► pro-marijuana he likes the marijuana and [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► has four years old yeah holy shit always [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► stoned like probably really so he's so [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► delightful to have around [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► because he's very got a beautiful face [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► he's very charming [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► that's very amiable he's so amiable he's [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► so wonderful he was in the up in smoke [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► movie with Cheech and Chong he's had [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► quite a career tom skerritt and he's got [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► a he's got a nice little drawl he's just [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► very juicy and Harold and Maude up in [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► smoke oh he's an ice castles oh of [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► course he was if he was an alien he was [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► Dallas an alien naturally known from and [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► so good in that he was also King Neptune [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► really a kind of career capper so you [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► feel like he was the first hipster King [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► Neptune yeah but he's also like he's and [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► he's an actor he's a Hollywood star I [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► mean he's uh it's the type of thing that [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► the people at sea fair would say here's [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► a good idea and you know we have a [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► Hollywood person that we can ask I'm [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► kind of the first one that's just like [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► yeah like whatever however you would use [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► the term hipster to denigrate someone [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► that's being basically his pants are [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► pretty tight tom skerritt pretty tight [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► pants yeah you know he's 50 years old [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► but he still cuffs his jeans good [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► looking good nice cuff hehe he lives in [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► Lake Washington in suburban Seattle he [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► lives in Lake Washington yes [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► it's true I feel like now that now that [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► it's happened for them to pick their [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► next King Neptune out of just that you [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► know whatever that burbling cauldron of [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► local dimwits that you know that are [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► like weather men and and Restaurant [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► tours [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► I feel like fans it's only the Lumineers [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► [Applause] [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► ukulele ukulele I've got to figure out [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► who exactly is right for the job because [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► they have to care about Seattle they [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► have to be since might find yourself [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► into this this you could help define [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► this for the next generation I think [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► that 20 years from now it's gonna be [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► Macklemore like it's the type of things [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► that he will graduate into one day cuz [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► he loves here anyway [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► I'm gonna think about this I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna point myself part of [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► this search see we can do and they say [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► we fall or get out of the way you're the [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► fucking king man fuckin a I'm looking at [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► the page this is that KY kernels that's [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► unfortunate [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► KY kernels org I sent this to you [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► accidentally twice famous Kentucky [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► Colonels I don't wanna go through all of [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► these Walt Disney John Depp you get Mae [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► West Betty White Zakk Wylde [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► the fiddly guitar guy I know him well [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► Dwight Yoakam but you know what's kind [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► of strange about this under why this [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► bothers me so much Pete Peter kinder the [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► lieutenant governor of Missouri many [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► people who are President and you notice [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► here though for each person who is [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► president they always see former US [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► president you're never a former [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► president that's like a Marine Henry [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► Cuellar I hope I'm pronouncing that [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► correctly [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► it says you're never a president it says [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► US Representative of Texas now John a [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► scooper they do say former US [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► Representative I don't think you should [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► refer to people as a former president I [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► think you say they were a US president [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► so Lee Majors it doesn't say former key [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► the actor right you know something [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► that's true of him right did he pee past [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► didn't he did I think I wouldn't gonna [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► say former in that sense I was gonna say [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► like what is Lee Majors done lately yeah [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► that's true Colonel Colonel Harland [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► Sanders he's referred to here as a [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► businessman but like a former president [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► if someone says President George Bush [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► you had better know that he's not [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► president anymore [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► right a former is is superfluous well I [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► think when you do one of those events [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► where you get three four or five it's [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► like it's like a doctor whose situation [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► when you get three four or five of them [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► together in a room I think then you [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► could refer to them as the former [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► presidents I might be doing a Robert [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► Smigel joke at this point I don't mean [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► to but I think I think former presidents [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► is useful to say that however many is I [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► think it's the group the longest largest [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► number current the current number of [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► living presidents is the greatest in [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► history I believe yeah I think it's true [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► you got Carter HW Clinton W know what [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► I'm missing anybody it's at least I [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► would know that's it for Ford is gone [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► Reagan's Khan Nixon's gone yeah so [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► Carter is Carter is the oldest and then [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► oh wait a minute [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► Carter and George Herbert Walker Bush [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► they're contemporary are very similar in [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► age we both in the Navy in World War two [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► I believe yeah and maybe Herbert Walker [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► is actually older than then Jimmy Carter [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► I'm not sure those videos Jimmy Carter [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► just walking around doing stuff he's [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► really something isn't he you see him on [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► the plane you see that [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► I didn't see a video of him on a plane [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► Jimmy Carter fucking love this guy Jimmy [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► Carter [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► these guys have gotta be 90 Jimmy Carter [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► just walking down first of all to have [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► the presence of mind to walk through [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► coach he's got a very low-key Secret [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► Service person with him literally [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► walking through coach and shaking the [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► hand in the seat of any person who wants [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► to shake his hand and you know who was [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► to shake Jimmy Carter's hand [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► fucking everybody dance where everybody [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► is thrilled this sweet gentle kind old [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► man with a fucking bullet [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► is spending taking his time he could go [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► be sitting in first class you know [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► probably having a beverage he's walking [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► through a coach smiling broad smile [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► shaking hands and a kind word to every [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► person who wants to greet him [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► that's graciousness that is a gracious [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► man so he's always had a lot of class [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► will you be like that as king will you [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► keep that in mind how important it is [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► first of all obviously to reach out to [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► young people and to groom them but also [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► how important it is that you be out [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► there putting a good face on on the the [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► Neptune Kingdom let me just throw this [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► out there Jimmy Carter was born October [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► 1st of 1924 and George Herbert Walker [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► Bush was born in June of 1924 so they're [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► three months apart in age I'll be damned [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► or four months and HW was a head of CIA [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► under what probably forward under under [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► Nixon wasn't it's in okay all right [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► let's make sure of that George HW [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► pushing there wasn't the ambassador to [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► China I want to say let's see here [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► looking on the Internet science site for [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► George HW Bush internet science okay so [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► under Ford 76 okay it was that late [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► the second chief of the 4090 Republican [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► National Committee second chief of the [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► US liaison office to the People's [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► Republic of China [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► that's 74 to 7,500 Ford the United [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► States the tenth United States [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► ambassador to the United Nations under [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► President Richard Nixon George Herbert [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► Walker Bush yes he was the so he was the [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► tenth United States ambassador to the [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► United Nations from March of 1971 to [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► January of 1973 isn't that wonderful [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► mm-hmm you know he and my uncle Jack [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► were in college together yeah no kidding [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► uncle Jack yeah uncle Jack and he went [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► to school together and and were [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► contemporaries and knew each other [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► uncle jack yeah I've ever told about the [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► time that Uncle Jack was tapped for [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► going bones I don't care tell me again [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► no no no I don't care in the sense that [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► I don't care how many times you hook [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► told the story I would like to hear it [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► again please [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► I love any story you have that includes [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► an uncle yeah [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► Uncle Jack was a football star and in [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► the Navy he was a football star here at [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► Seattle's Broadway high school and then [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► he joined the Navy toward the end of the [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► war and he was down it in Olathe Kansas [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► getting his flight training and he was [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► playing on [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► playing on [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► some intramural football team and it was [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► very much like the plot of the movie [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► mash some flight instructor some you [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► know major in the Navy saw him running [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► in touchdowns on this on this field and [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► said we've got to get you we've got to [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► transfer you to this other unit because [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► we've got a very competitive football [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► team over there [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► little by little he got in front of [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► somebody who said after the war we'd [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► like to help you use the GI Bill to go [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► to Yale because we are Yale alumnus [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► alumni and we're trying to you know and [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► we want we want Yale to beat Harvard in [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► the big football game and so uncle Jack [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► ended up at Yale on the GI Bill after [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► the war as their star end and during [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► that immediate after the war period he [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► was he was a big shot there and his [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► there there there's a copy of the New [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► York Times with the big headline like [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► top of the fold [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► you know Yale beats Harvard or whatever [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► and big picture of my uncle running in [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► the the winning touchdown he was an [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► all-american damn and and so was BMOC [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► there during that period mm-hmm and so [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► and this was the period immediately [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► after the war where all these guys that [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► had fought in the Navy were coming back [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► to college so like George Herbert Walker [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► poppy was a Navy pilot also and and [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► actually like a war hero [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► and they were all returning returning to [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► college so they weren't a bunch eighteen [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► year olds right they were twenty four [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► year olds and some of them had had had [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► some hard times out there and but [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► they're back in college now and they're [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► just like you know college men mm-hmm so [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► my uncles take on it as [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► Seattle ight and as a a northwestern er [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► from a time when the Northwest was still [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► pretty isolated from the rest of the [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► country in the world and also because he [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► was a roderick he had what you could [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► describe as a very strong reverse [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► snobbery against institutions and [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► institutional wealth and what even then [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► would have been called privilege and so [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► he kept this chip on his shoulder this [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► sort of flannel and cedar chip on his [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► shoulder whenever he encountered any [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► kind of East Coast money or East Coast [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► attitude which of course then there was [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► a lot of so poppy as he calls him was an [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► example of this sort of very blue blood [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► East Coast's mane you know how summer [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► house in Maine kind of elitism and he [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► George Bush was dating his wife whose [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► name I was just on the tip of my tongue [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► Barbara uh-huh yeah uh-huh he was dating [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► Barbara Bush even then and I think they [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► married at Yale and had George Walker [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► Bush at Yale because they were this was [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► you know they were college people which [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► was which meant full grown people mm-hmm [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► but anyway so the night of the big the [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► night where all of the secret societies [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► all tapped their new members I think [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► you're out on the quad or something and [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► there's torchlight I mean it's all the [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► old the old scary rituals that date back [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► to Egypt [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► Uncle Jack felt a tap on his shoulder [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► and a and a whisper in his ear [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► skullenbones yes he got the tap you got [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► the tap for skullenbones yes or no and [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► Jack said no [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► like because skullenbones was elitist oh [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► my goodness and he was a man of the [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► people he was a lumberjack from out west [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► he was a man of the people now he and I [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► have talked about this 100 thousand [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► million times and even back in the 80s [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► when when men of his age were not at all [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► self reflective and he was not at all [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► self reflective my father was not they [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► did not engage [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► they did not indulge themselves in a lot [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► of where did I go wrong [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► yeah what could have done better but I [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► said to be more vulnerable yeah exactly [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► what if I had talked to people more [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► nicely I wish I'd listened more I said [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► to him of course like oh my god like [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► that's dumb did you do you regret it and [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► he said yes very much I was an idiot I [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► should have joined Skull and Bones are [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► you kidding me everything was no [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► different I was like oh fuck mm-hmm come [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► I was wondering I was also wondering if [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► like when you get the tapping you say no [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► is it kind of like a mafia type [TS]

01:05:36 ◼   ► situation where now you know now it's [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► you're not only not in but now you're [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► out like you're way out like you're [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► gonna you're gonna have some problems [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► now I can't imagine that they get a lot [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► of nose mm-hmm now maybe they did before [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► I'm sure there are still reverse snobs [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► I'm sure there are still people who are [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► like I'm too good for skull and bones [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► but I bet you they make a short list I [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► don't I don't think that they go out and [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► say let's get 500 names and and we'll [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► pick the first 15 mm-hmm but it's a [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► small list and and and probably was then [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► too but you know that you never see a [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► Roderick coming am i right you guys are [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► slippery get your own thing going on [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► really got your own thing going on [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► Oh infuriating and the thing is you know [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► that butterfly flaps its wings problem [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► spooky action at a distance sure [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► everything lines up this moment pointing [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► to Germany cue man they're so used to [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► everybody begging to get in right and [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► say no no first of all no [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► also there's a tap if there if so if [TS]

01:06:40 ◼   ► this were you there'd be a tap you get [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► into tap but then on top of it you they [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► probably vetted they vetted your uncle [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► they've they've gone through all the [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► steps they've they even might feel like [TS]

01:06:49 ◼   ► oh we're pretty sure he's gonna say yes [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► cuz obviously the man's not an idiot he [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► knows this is gonna change his game [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► right well thank you know and and and he [TS]