The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► you got a question Merlin yeah i did i'm [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► sorry i'm trying to be quiet i know [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► people don't know ask a question this is [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► a dream for me this is my this is my [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► this is my scarlet witch moment i'm so [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► happy to be here I'm not trying to be a [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► dork and more arms you guys I'm slowly [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► so angry now the incomparable number 100 [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► already made 2013 [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason snail [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► and tonight we're doing something very [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► special where were doing special edition [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► of our comic book club as if they aren't [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► all special [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► they also we're gonna talk about a [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► classic at least in terms of having [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► happened several years ago [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► Marvel Comics events called house event [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► which was a 8 issue miniseries from 2005 [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► written by Brian Michael Bendis who I [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► love from ultimate spider-man you may [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► remember this for how it ends now you [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► may remember for the aftermath you may [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► remember it for its continuity busting [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► you may remember it because it's the [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► it's a it's the cruelest thing in a [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► universe of cool things done spider-man [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► perhaps the coolest thing ever done to [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► spider-man anyway to joining me to talk [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► about House of M and various other [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► Marvel events that came out of this or [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► went into it or went around it in terms [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► of continuity i have an all-star [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► superhero panel first up a regular in [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► comfortable guest Lisa Schmeisser hi [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► Lisa like you to be here thanks for [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► being here and iannaccone a frequent [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► visitor to the incomparable is also here [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► hi Andy [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► hello Jason good to have you here we [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► have a visitor we've had on once before [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► moistest uyan is welcome back i'm glad [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► to be here [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► it's good to have you and for making his [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► making his debut appearance on the [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► incomparable using first and last you [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► love him you can't live without him [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► it's Merlin man Jason it's good to have [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► you here thank you [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► I can say anything I guess anything to [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► be very well okay that's good [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► yeah that's the Scott McNulty slot [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► doesn't work I'll be Lex I was hoping [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► you'd be siracusa so house of them I so [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► here's my admission I stopped reading [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► comics in the eighties and didn't start [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► reading them really reading current [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► comics anyway until two or three years [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► ago so I completely missed this when it [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► came out and only I think maybe a year [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► ago I read some of them and and [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► on via illicit means i have to admit but [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► i just reread them all using Marvel's [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► excellent marvel unlimited service and [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► app and I house of m is really [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► interesting because it's this standalone [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► miniseries and yet it's got all these [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► tie-in series some of them are special [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► standalone series others it's sort of [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► overrides regular issues of some comics [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► it seems like and it's this weird case [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► where it's not an event that really [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► happens it's sort of happens in the [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► Marvel Universe but it it's kind of like [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► a sneaky what if what if story which is [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► what if the mutants were in charge [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► essentially is that is that accurate am [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► I missing some horrible piece of [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► continuity here as far as i can tell [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► it's a it's it's happening in the real [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► Marvel Universe but it really is just [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► it's it's transformed magically into an [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► alternate universe for a while and then [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► transform back right [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► it's the most important what if [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► crossover ever because the effects of it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► actually end up having an effect on the [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► actual Marvel Universe but I think [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► you're dead right that it's it's a lot [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► of story more than anything else [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► yes knows it's the it's the classic [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► gambit of like when you're playing chess [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► and you make your move but you keep your [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► finger on the piece you say I haven't [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► gotten yet [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► hang on i could take that movie back [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► haven't got yet yes it did [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► it's it was kind of famous because joe [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► quesada revealed like we took over as [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► creative editor-in-chief of Marvel said [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► that there are but a too i think he said [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► you mentioned there three specific [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► genies he wants to put back in the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► bottle without mentioning what those [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► three genes were one of those was [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► spider-man's marriage he wanted that to [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► not happen anymore [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► another one woo exactly what's that [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► that's the podcast but the other but [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► that other one was actually very very [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► positive the problem of in some of the X [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► books there are apparently millions and [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► millions and millions and millions of [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► onions and he wanted to roll that back i [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► can speak to this an exhausting detail [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► and it got to the point where my mutant [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► superpower is is telekinesis except it's [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► like a game of tag and youyou really [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► that's the best you can come up with [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► I got teleportation but i can only go [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► through doors now imagine and [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► the book built around a character like [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► that because that's what they were [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► basically doing by that point was uh oh [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► here's a character who's who looks like [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► a chicken and has no other superpowers [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► and because it doesn't show up you start [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► by now ask and yes I am I read the [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► Exiles I read all the Exiles what you [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► see you need that many many mutants [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► because you had to populate the teams [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► right because there's let's let's run it [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► down the early 2000s have like the [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► extreme ! that was where the extreme [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► x-men we got the x-men the uncanny x-men [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► we got the X Factor you got the X miles [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► astonishing x-men don't forget that the [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► team that was on mutant x who went [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► around and did things in mutti town [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► xxs-3x explanatory he's the exciting's [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► xcor there was the Excalibur ecstatic [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► xfactor expeditionary was that actually [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► a team [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► no I'm making things up I'm just saying [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► there were lots of x-men suffice it to [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► say and Wolverine was on every single [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► one of those teams except for the exit [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► for the ex-girlfriends and the [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► expenditures when I stopped reading [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► marvel comics was right when the at the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► x-men were clearly the most popular [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► comic i think every month and that was [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► just as Marvel was realizing that they [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► could do something with this and when I [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► came back I I was kind of taken aback [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► and when I realized that they finally [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► its franchise the x-men and boy did it [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► because when I left it was like the new [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► mutants was it the x-men and like two [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► from like 2003-2004 the x-men were kind [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► of like aaron spelling on TV in the [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► early nineties where they're just get [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► that he just couldn't they just kept [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► crapping out spin-off after spin off [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► after spin-off and and there would be [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► one thing that was compelling and the [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► rest of that you were just how is this [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► allowed to exist and at some point storm [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► is doing extreme fighting in a ring with [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► somebody and it to end and and sometimes [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► she has a mohawk and sometimes she does [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► and row he gets this crazy full sleeve [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► tattoo because she runs into some mutant [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► his superpowers is drawing tattoos on [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► two people skin i should do not this was [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► actually that's her power she could make [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► tattoos without using a needle and you [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► know at this point when the big bad [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► thing that happens at the end of this [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► happens and i was like finally man they [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► have shaken out this universe and down [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► to the deadwood and like eight million [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► Guthrie's parish which is all for the [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► best because that them got [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► family is the bane of my x-men reading [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► existence would be useful to give people [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► a rough idea of the story so so what [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► happens is as these people gradually [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► learn these heroes gradually or take it [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► Wolverine basically says I'm gonna go [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► find people and even though they are [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► living their dream i'm going to wake [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► them up to the harsh unreality of events [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► here and so he goes and then one by one [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► they kind of assemble all the [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► superheroes and remind them that they [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► aren't living you know just because [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► you're in this wonderful mutant forward [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► society here and actually you know [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► there's actually the real world where [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► mutants are downtrodden and let's let's [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► touch spider-man so that he who you know [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► who wins stays alive his uncle ben is [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► alive he's got yeah they're very happy [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► let's wreck that ok well and he's got [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► this kind of creepy adulterous thing [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► that sort of like on the verge of [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► happening with maryjane right well [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► because she stars in the movie of his [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► life as his wife also Hollywood slut [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► also creepy so so the the and and really [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► the story seems to be there waking [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► everybody up to the reality that that [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► except for Captain America because he [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► was never frozen and it's just an of an [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► old guy although such a tissue that was [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► kinda nice but I kept asking myself I [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► was surprised to not have more of them [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► be like you know this world is kind of [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► nicer than for us than that other world [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► I guess that was them being heroic and [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► all it just seemed very strange to me [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► that it's like this world in many ways [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► seems better two then the one that we [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► left we gotta stop going to put a stop [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► to that [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► that seems listing with spider-woman [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► whisk was pretty great [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► yeah then and then we'll bring it's a [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► high level someday you'll be embarrassed [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► you said that like why should she be [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► embarrassed she's asking a perfectly [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► rational question just our lives are [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► pretty awesome have to an irate so so is [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► it fair to say that there are two [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► reasons why house of them is notable [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► there's there's that it is it is in and [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► of itself a story about this this sort [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► of what F world that is ruled by mutants [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► and it's relevant in terms of Marvel [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► continuity because at the end of it when [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► this when the original marvel universe [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► is reset some people who are at the [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► center of this [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you know this blast wave at the end of [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► of the story remember everything that [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► happened in this parallel history that [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► was created but but secondarily it's the [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► end result of the story which is in in [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► many and and if you don't know you [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► should read it read the issues poor you [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► listen to this podcast anymore stop what [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► are you doing this whole podcast spoil [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► it is a giant spoiler [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► so the end of issue 7 the Scarlet Witch [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► who has created this parallel universe [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► she says no more mutants she's like so [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► she's so infuriated by by mutants i [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► guess and buy her own kind that she [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► declares that there will be no more [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► mutants and then and then issue 8 is the [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► aftermath where the world has kind of [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► gone back to where it was except that [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► some people remember what what had [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► happened and and for some people that [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► that's a quite tragic because the idea [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► here is that everybody has been given [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► essentially their hearts desire all of [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► these yes all the powered people the [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► idea why I guess that Pietro and Wanda [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► team definite said well if we just give [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► everybody exactly what they want then [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► they'll leave us alone and nobody with [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► the crazy idea to kill the woman who [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► could work who can warp reality it well [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► and what here where it breaks down is [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► when you look at the spin-offs they're [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► horrible dystopias so you know and a lot [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► of major characters die in the spin-off [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► sides argued with my big deal about [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► dreams come true hearts tiger's heart [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► desire was to be shot [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► good yeah no I mean I get the doctor [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► dooms deepest heart desires to have read [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► Richards wiped off the face of the [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► planet but he ends up looking Magneto's [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► boot how is that keeping him losing his [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► losing his entire family will know it's [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► the it's the oh it's the old Henry [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► ending right it's the stupid like shaved [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► off all my hair to give me I think any [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► one of the reasons that I i think it's [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► successful and I should always stipulate [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► that I'm i'm pretty new to this stuff so [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► I haven't read a whole lot of stuff you [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► know little bits of stuff from across [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the Marvel Universe but the reason I [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► think this succeed where others seem [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► very frustrating is yeah there are a [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► whole lot of tions well you know not [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► nearly as many times is with some of [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► that some of these other things were [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► talking about it really i think [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► personally it helps to me that it works [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► as this one TPB of eight issues that [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► really stands alone it's spider-man one [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► time is outstanding [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► but it's completely its own pocket [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► universe in another pocket if it is [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► right there it's not even it doesn't [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► even line up to the main and also it's [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► good for some reason to keep reminding [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► me a plan to the apes in some ways we [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► talk about a what if it's something [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► that's happening [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► not so much exactly in the future [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► but you know it is speculative in that [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► way but also i like the fact that [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► everybody was in it kind of mostly [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► together and kind of mostly the same [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► time and that I guess to your point [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► about what happens at the end boy you [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► guys had a spoiler fast you guys hit two [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► major spoilers so fast you left you hit [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► the biggest plot twists and the whole [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► thing already was eight years ago it [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► here at yelled at I got yelled at on [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► Twitter the other day for mentioning [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► what happened when Stacy in 1973 right [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► she dies by the way all man she got a [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► new hair before so it's ok she gets [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► cloned but you know my wife she never [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► persistently brought back is is what I [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► want to know Jim Gray syndrome in [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► Reagan's back more often than then when [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► Stacy it's particularly wewe titled an [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► episode of giant-sized beast goes which [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► time after the the bit in all-new x-men [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► where Jean Grey asks him uh tell me what [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► it was like when I died and he went well [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► which time I think there should be the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► single serving sites are you know maybe [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► even like that counts is Phoenix alive [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► right now in this issue is Jean Grey [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► alive can Professor X walk and is Nick [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► Fury black just just so we kind of can [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► get a roughly on where we are you gotta [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► triangulate different facts of the [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► Marvel Universe to get an idea of what [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► I'm going on which telepathic Scott [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► Summers dating this with spider-man [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► married and to who [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► but it's a lie i unlike other ones where [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► you go you know yes this this like a lot [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► of annoying crossovers go poof [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► haha sike but it did speak but it does [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► open up a lot of interesting stories [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► especially with the you know the M de [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► thing but you know what i mean it's it [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► is i think it's so wonderful as a bridge [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► between two things that may be [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► controversial I like a lot i really love [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► defenders disassembled and I like Civil [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► War schism and in ATX and I thought I [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► think this is the fantastic bridge to [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► those because it takes all these [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► characters that can sometimes seem a [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► little bit you know [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► been there done that and opens a lot of [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► interesting doors for them too I don't [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► know to explore these parts of their [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► powers in their personality that can get [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► lost in this giant University of like [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► you know scrolls in [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► purple hawks and stuff so you know we [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► should talk about about this story and [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► yes I spoiled but you know the journey [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► is the reward and it is a marvel comics [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► so it really kind of ends up where it [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► starts in some ways what what's nice is [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► that because what remains at the end is [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► the memory of it happening it in and [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► this no more mutants declaration you [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► know it is more standalone than a lot of [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► the Marvel events i think Marlon is [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► absolutely right there and I I thought [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► it was an interesting what if when I was [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► a kid I was read the what if comic and I [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► always thought it was really cool idea [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► and here they upped the stakes a little [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► bit although I have to say when the [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► first time I read it I was having a [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► conversation with somebody about this i [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► can't remember who it is that you know [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► for the humans it's really bad what [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► happens here right it is it is this it [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► is this terrible thing but for some of [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► these characters i did question their [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► motivations as they go through cuz [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► Wolverine what happens is there's that [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► there's that there's no girl so many [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► questions Leyland so what is layla [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► Miller is this girl who's been given the [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► power to basically still she knows stuff [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► but I know stuff [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► Frank she can make you remember what it [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► was like before and Wolverine knows what [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► it was like before anything Kayla's [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► mutant powers that she's an anchor inn [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► in reality right matter like no matter [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► where she is she can see through [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► whatever you do [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► nonsense going on in any dimension and [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► but also i mean it and I don't mean to [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► hijack your show but it was like just to [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► concede of it it is worth mentioning [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► which is that and again this is what [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► makes this such an interesting bridge to [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► scarlet witch becoming such a important [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► character in really at least three major [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► events which i think is very very [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► interesting move on you know so it's [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► fair enough to spoil of interest [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► disassembled she goes completely monkey [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► balls attacks all the Avengers I thought [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► that was a great crossover re also log [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► out of control and let's remember though [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► and I but I think this is that this [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► could be a whole episode on its own is [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► that is the Avengers disassembled [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► started because wasp is talking about [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► your relationship with Hawkeye and Wanda [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► suddenly flips out when she starts [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► remembering these two kids that she had [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► but didn't have right that was just too [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► simple right and you so so she's she's [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► just did that in a nut the way this [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► whole [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► and I think I think technically yeah [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► it's considered of 58 something universe [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► but i think it's just considered a kind [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► of a bend 616 in some ways but you know [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► she the the beauty part of this that i [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► think is pretty good cover for the what [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► if Miss of it is that she you know [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► basically uses these extraordinary [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► powers to in order to have a family [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► family is such an important theme [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► through all these books especially in [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► the last couple notches family is huge [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► and we get that obviously with the [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► magnets clan but in order for her family [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► to be together and happy in with her [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► mind like rapidly disintegrating she's [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► going to basically make it so that [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► anybody who's in a position to harm [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► anyone in her family not just her but [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► you can't harm anyone in her family and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► who could harm her make-believe children [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► is going to be given as you say given [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► whatever it is that they most wanted [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► which i think is a very interesting [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► topic to talk about like what that says [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► about Wolverine what that says about [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► gambit but but there but that to me that [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► that but I don't think everybody like [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► that provides great cover for like why [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► this was so interesting because there [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► are all kinds of contradictions and [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► holes in that but it also leads us to as [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► you say that just to read the heartbreak [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► up Peter Parker huge but it isn't unique [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► you see mistakes heart being broken as [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► she's losing this thing that I guess [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► like a walgreens case will ring goes I [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► didn't know that I wanted to be Nick [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► Fury he's analyzing things about himself [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► you know let alone the memory thing [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► which is three episodes but it's such a [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► great cover and and they cover so much [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► in that one first book I thought that [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► was really impressive before we started [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► a process mentioned that he had read [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► world war hulk to and I was and planet [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► hulk and I was reminded of the beginning [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► of Planet Hulk or the thing that leads [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► into it it's a similar situation what [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► were you have superheroes essentially [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► right superheroes they're supposed to be [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► the good guys making a decision that is [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► at the very least seriously morally [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► questionable and can hold the Illuminati [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► yeah in employment whole shoot the Hulk [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► into space and that's not gonna get that [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► could go wrong [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► that'll be that'll be fine i could [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► possibly or so in house of em it's [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► Charles Xavier and the x-men and The [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► Avengers having a little like staff [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► meeting at avengers tower to do that [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► expand this loves writing meetings yeah [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► he does is it doesn't like reading [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► beginnings the Illuminati was I think [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► probably his wet dream he did got to do [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► an entire issue there was nothing but a [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► long meeting [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► yeah yeah you know when I was a kid [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► there was a tissue of amazing spider-man [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► that was nothing but a fight between [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► spider-man the kingpin [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► what is it like George Lucas everybody [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► that wants to make things about meeting [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► it's just that its meetings and trade [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► routes and that's what it is but in so [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► in this one there they're meeting is so [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► we're gonna kill 12 right i mean that's [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► the doctor strange back me up here and [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► dr. strange like oh I don't know I can't [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► figure it out so let's get let me let me [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► throw I actually I actually prepped part [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► of this in addition to his obsession [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► with meetings he also loves having dr. [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► strange narrate an absurd amount of [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► exposition justifying whatever crazy [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► thing he's about to make happen by the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► eye of agamotto I by the by the crimson [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► bands of the center a candle hurry cause [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► of the prognosis logo sublime magics of [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► exposition exactly so so you get this [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► cross-section of a bunch of classic [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► panels of Wanda Maximoff and Stephen [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► strange explaining everything yes this [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► is this is prior to them deciding well [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► what we're going to do with it this is [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► ok everybody here's what's actually [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► going on please forget we're talking [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► about your friend listen to me tell you [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► the story of an orphan mute with [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► assorted violent past with her she did [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► not earn Norrish kanchi control power [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► she never fully understood [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► can you understand the delicate mindset [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► of a woman a person who has control over [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► reality it means reality controls her [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► imagination becomes the enemy structure [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► disappears reality eventually as she [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► knows it starts to slip away elude her [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► blur drama conflict tragedy that become [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► excuses to change the world to fit the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► image that she has for it [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► anything she doesn't like she can change [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► no matter how slight people places [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► things everything is here guys her to [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► change her mind [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► editorial meeting ok so that's bad good [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► heavens [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► yeah this is a third this is a third of [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► this complete setup for brian michael [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► bendis using dr. strange to hypnotize us [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► into going you know what this all makes [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► and they should killer when you know [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► what I don't like something that fire [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► Michael Bendis is written it's always [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► because of two different three World [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► word problems one is beginning middle [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► I don't think he loves the middle he [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► doesn't like running them the the finish [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► the the start and he'll write the ending [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► in the last three pages when you realize [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► oh crap it's supposed to be tennis shoes [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► not 15-minute up about dr. strange and [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► haunting AVX and the and the second [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► thing isn't the second three-word thing [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► is show don't tell [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► he will heal he loves you he loves to do [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► the west wing sort of thing where you [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► can't have something being done with a [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► glance and a significant nod it has to [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► be no one's no one's walking or talking [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► and walking while they're talking [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► they're all just talking over static [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► frames the dsm-4 refers to this is chris [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► claremont syndrome mutant yeah it's you [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► know I love some of this work but but [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► hehe it's not just that he doesn't have [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► his bag of tricks in it and his and his [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► noticeable weaknesses but you know it [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► but I I'm again I think it's fascinating [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► that they put their heroes in this [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► position hand-waving exposition aside of [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► saying alright well i guess i didn't [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► course it's easy for Wolverine to say [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► well I think we just got a killer [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► because that's a very Wolverine thing to [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► say although I actually kind of thought [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that was not at all a Wolverine thing to [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► say it don't like I thought I'd like a [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► little adventures and don't forget the [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► parlance Avengers vs. x-men thing [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► because first of all you got killer [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► there's no question you have to kill her [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► like that it just seems really obvious [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► after you know basically vision and Jack [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► of Hearts k Jack of Hearts was a bomb [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► her ex-husband you know I mean she and [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► what she did in disassembled like what [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► it what else do you guys need to see but [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► I I to be honest I think of the business [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► meetings onra I thought something that's [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► pretty good I thought their discussions [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► first fuck God how much you love that [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► panel when they first walk in and Xavier [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► sitting there and you see everybody just [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► sit around and really kind of God's [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► gonna be such a long meeting but no I [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► actually really enjoyed this and to me [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► like the scenes the Talmudic scenes [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► where the talking about what should [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► happen what are we doing [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you know because they're each of them [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► has their own embarrassing things that [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► everybody kind of knows now everybody [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► knows how full of themselves they are [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► and how unhappy they were with their [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► previous lives to where they have these [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► jobs and responsibilities now that are [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► antithetical you know 22 everything we [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► know about them as a character [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► apparently some people get wishes and [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► some people don't like dr. Doom's wish [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► trumped Reed Richards getting away [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► because Reed Richards is dead well [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► nobody likes Reed Richards yeah that's [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► true including Reed Richards apparently [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► I've always you know I've actually [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► wondered if there's like a big old core [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► of self-loathing and in the middle of [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► his giant stretchy brain just because [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► nobody can be that consistently jerky [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► without without even without writing but [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► doesn't the writers hate him obviously [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► but i would like to help these guys like [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► well when you're that smart you feel [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► like disconnected from humanity maybe [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you turn some of that anger and [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► irritation on yourself [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► I'm which is where they they they were [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► going in that direction with him on the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► Ultimate Universe for a while but i know [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► that the spin-off stuff that they have [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► going on like i said when i read the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► Fantastic Four house of them spin-off I [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► thought how has been Grimm's dream to be [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the subjugated kind of doctor do but [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► where does that fit in [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► no he did he doesn't win Ben Grimm never [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► wins because if it were you know if it [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► were the universe where you're going to [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► pacify him he'd be back to looking like [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► a normal human being like that's that's [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► that's enough thanks Jam for years as i [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► would like not to have skin that doubles [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► as a National Monument and the poor guy [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► never gets it and they had that but also [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► i meani essentially are kind of in not [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► enslave precisely but well first of all [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► he's not a mutant so he's part of the [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► underclass and he's basically getting [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► used as a soldier right now and in that [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► instance but you know I think it was a [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► real standout to me for one because the [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► first of all I despise it's only [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► criminal always a criminal but you know [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► it yeah I a anyway I guess that's not [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► that's a whole different topic but like [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► that the what is the people wish for was [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► to me like such a fantastic piece of [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► this because that was the chuy's part of [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► this for me is is getting through all of [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► that but but you know again at the core [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► the core part of the story is that you [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► know I guess it's kind of a madwoman in [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► the Attic thing in some ways but you [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► know want is so imbalance that she put [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► this thing in place by blow the horn and [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► basically sucking out all of the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► information net Professor X has cleaned [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► over the years about what people really [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► want in their heart and that's going to [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► enable you know her to pass a file these [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► people are you know keep them in the [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► matrix basically right that would [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► actually swim the Fantastic Four [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► business because if i wanted was not [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► really fantastic for that much is like a [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► having be dead [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► well because what happens is John [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► Johnny Storm shows up in the ironman [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► spin-off yeah where it turns out his [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► fondest fantasies to play second banana [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► Tony Stark who knew [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► yeah and yeah but I don't think that he [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► wants to be the Bucky to Tony stark/iron [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► me so here's the thing i don't think i [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► think it's wrong to say that what this [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► is is everybody getting their wish she's [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► not a genie that's something everybody [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► which climate it right she is I think [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► it's absolutely right to say what she's [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► doing is is setting up a world where [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► we're like you said the people who are [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► most likely going to be a threat to her [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► are are pacified it's it's a psychic [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► bribe and as soon as you get and the [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► other ones don't matter right it's like [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► that doesn't have a Ben Grimm is is an [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► underclass in that rich riches did she [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► just needs to set it up enough that they [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► biggest threats to her are off the table [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► and then she brings but she's also got a [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► great little thing that you have to dig [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► into a little bit you know they keep [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► talking about popping a stitch [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► well it you know yeah Madame web is [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► there to be the wolf [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► she's like the harvey keitel character [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► something like it's her job to go in and [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► like take you to this little Madame web [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► reeducation camp to remind you that [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► there's no man behind the curtain which [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► I thought was pretty subtle but very [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► interesting because you can see I don't [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► know if it's that there's a Robert [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► Reynolds guy who I don't know that [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► character at all that's going to talk to [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► Stephen strange but you know you can [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► definitely tell me and don't you get the [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► sense that like the people are walking [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► around going doesn't something seems not [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► quite right and i really did get the [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► feeling that you know again like some [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► people can remember what happened [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► because they were cloaked by ms 17 [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► spells or whatever dr. strange stuff but [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► but part of what made it so fascinating [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► to me also as they were just automatons [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► you know obviously the second issue it [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► was a great i thought it was really well [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► done presentation my daughter found [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► confusing weird why won 27 together in [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► after school too but you know in into [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► this i'm carrying i'm sorry but the [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► second the second one I thought was was [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► really really fun popcorn comic book [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► stuff but with a heart and you know [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► again it's like any of us it's almost [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► like the wire right we're all [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► compromised by some system you know [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► whatever system we are beholding to will [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► ultimately corrupt us and in this case [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that's our own desires and wishes [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► especially when we see what happens with [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► Wolverine which you know [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► I'm a boomerang family what happens [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► Wolverine in this i thought was just [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► completely amazing [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► oh it isn't a lot of the story I thought [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► that was I thought that was really good [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► Marlon that I'm glad I'm glad you're [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► here really glad you helped me thank you [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► p 1 the part of the story is here's the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► price of of you getting what you want [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► right the dream all along was this [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► mutant utopia that was that was that was [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► you know Magneto's dream it's a sort of [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► the ideal of the x-men in some ways and [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► here they get some of that and it's it's [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► really not that great at you know it's [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► great for them in the lives but as soon [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► as they remember what their other lives [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► are like they're like oh my god this is [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► terrible i can't believe that this is [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► that this has happened and so it's a [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► nice it's a nice twist to be able to to [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► have that and that's really what what [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► issue 2 and sort of issue 3 r is really [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► it's just the the memory brigade going [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► from person to person and having them [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► remember their past and with spider-man [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► I mean that's the most for me that was [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► by far the most effective thing in here [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► that's the thing i remembered other than [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► no more mutants at the end was what [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► happened to Peter Parker's Peter Parker [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► you know you can really rewrite his life [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► to be happy [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► intentionally that got to catch a break [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► sometimes yeah yeah exactly and so in [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► this he sort of is set up in this [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► wonderful scenario and so when he [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► discovers that it's all a fake [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► it's it's brutal it's really really [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► brutal and that you know I I appreciated [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► that is as painful as that was to see [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► because you know you're really kind of [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► threw remembering all these terrible [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► things that have happened to Peter [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► Parker enjoy the time for that I'd so i [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► read i read the tie-in and it's [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► confusing because like you said it's [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► it-it-it it's hard to see where would be [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► because you wonder why peter has short [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► hair in inhibition is it [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► yeah he shakes his head but the end he [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► fakes his death and goes off to a lake [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► with his family and that couldn't have [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► no it you know one of the things about [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► this is it is this kind of speculation [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► kind of thing and though these tying [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► issues in some ways it's really like [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► it's just an excuse to tell stories and [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► I mean why why do some people have [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► memory and some people don't why do some [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► people you know have their dreams come [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► true and others don't it's mostly [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► because they came up with some good [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► story ideas but the spider-man thing [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► just is not in the same story as that [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► regular house of em series its gentle at [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► the whole thing can be explained away by [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► by well you know what is unstable and [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► her brain can only do so much and you [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► know a lot of things don't line up and [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► that's just what this weird alternate [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► reality is like I just hope that they [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► don't you know when they started an age [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► of apocalypse standalone series was like [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► okay that that totally that's fine but I [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► i really hope they never go that route [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► with the house of m universe because I I [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► just don't think that it works outside [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► of the limited range of what they did [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► with it here it just it barely holds [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► together this way that where we forgive [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► a lot of continuity issues but I just [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► you know it's it's an important thing [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► it's after-effects are very important in [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► a big deal as Merlin touched on earlier [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► but I just hope that they don't go you [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► know that was really successful we [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► should probably start an alternate [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► reality series and then find a way to [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► cross it over with the main universe [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► again and confuse everybody all over [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► again for once I'd like to see an [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► alternate universe where the mutants [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► don't hate the humans that just kind of [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► ignore them or they peacefully coexist [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► with them and there's not this really [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► sharp you know well now that we have the [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► upper hand it's time to see how you like [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► being called names and and being denied [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► professional opportunities haha i mean [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► the x-men has always been a really handy [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► metaphor for four other nests and [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► society you know sometimes it's a [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► stand-in for civil rights a lot of times [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► it can be standing for civil rights and [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► you know what i don't like is how the [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► alternate universe default messages [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► oh if you give those minorities right [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► spell immediately turned up with the [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► boot on your neck like I think that sky [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► I think that's lazy storytelling it's [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► not very thoughtful [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► yeah it is a switcheroo not a not an [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► actual exploration of what if the x-men [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► or Magneto necessarily got their way [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► it's like yeah because it's not what if [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► we were treated equally it's what if we [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► ruled you haha no i mean if you want to [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► get if you wanted to look at it and far [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► more offensive term sipping mutants and [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► human beings you could say pick a [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► disenfranchised minority in the United [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► States and what if they got the upper [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► hand well they'd put you in your place [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► like that's why it's like that's why [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► it's like Planet of the Apes to me is is [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► you right into me x-men x-men is very [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► it's it you know I've enjoyed some of [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► the ultimate stuff I've enjoyed you know [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► lots of enjoyed some of the season 1 [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► stuff that's happened just [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► because its funder with your kid or [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► whatever but you know one of the things [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► that I think makes everything difficult [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► 10 and 15 and 20 years on its why the [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► eighties and nineties were so bananas [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► for Marvel's marvelous humble the [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► Midianites and beyond [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► was that you know each one of those [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► comics was really of a time and this [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► sounds so obvious but i think it always [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► needs to be underscored is that if you [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► if you go back and read the Fantastic [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► Four in the context of an a nuclear age [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► if you are you know where the hawk for [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► that matter but base race but if you [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► yeah short but if you read the x-men and [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► maybe I'm over reading this but like to [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► me it's very much about civil rights and [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► yeah you know and then go to jump two [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► days of future past I mean that's a [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► pretty good and well that God loves me [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► go get gotten God loves man kills oh man [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► practically and which I thought was [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► fantastic but a fantastic it's just all [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► they're the best striker gets under your [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► skin but you know I I thought it was I [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► thought it was well I mean I don't know [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► there's so many ways this stuff can go [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► wrong and I don't want to you know email [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► Jason but there's so many things where I [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► tried to pick up something like secret [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► invasion or i'm told that fear itself [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► can mostly be read you know in this way [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► but just there's like 14 inches apart my [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► saying a fear itself on the shelf and I [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► find that very intimidating in this case [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► I was really happy to see even if I [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► bought a TPB time for this which did a [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► bunch of them but I was really happy [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► that I didn't have to have all of that [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► yes this did work on its own but again i [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► can't get away from the basic framing [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► device it wasn't just like oh something [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► topsy-turvy happened you know it's all [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► based and then again I don't wanna turn [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► Wanda and as they say the crazy woman in [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► the attic but i love the energy [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► yes well she's literally in the Attic [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► like she made a face like a body pic [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► oyer she's actually is that she is [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► actually in the Attic I mean I mean call [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► the first mrs. Rochester the first mrs. [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► Rochester went with yeah I try to [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► explain to my daughter and like I said [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► she's like oh Stephens making the hand [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► thing he's gonna go up and talk to one [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► day he sees a light up there and she's [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► playing lego with her kids and it's you [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► I was like so you understand how many [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► levels of bananas are here she doesn't [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► she kind of knows this is happening but [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► she doesn't know it's happening that she [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► know she's doing it and then on top of [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► it all down her dad's big day she's got [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► a fake body version of herself wandering [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► around sochi completely go with her [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► make-believe children in the tower that [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► doesn't exist [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► oh I never leave them far from me is [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► that because you're crazy or is because [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► that because your magic doesn't work [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► that well yet and yet i really like this [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► can be both [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► oh yeah well she's super creepy she has [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► enough brainpower to go [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► Oh dr. strange hold on a minute let me [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► get door move for you [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► he's right over here she has she has [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► this endless amount of bandwidth all of [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► a sudden where she can play legos other [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► kids fight Doctor Strange entertain [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► party guests and movable wall then for [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► all why she's so dangerous and she's [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► that good at this [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► yeah but like this this whole thing that [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► we're getting into something that I that [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► I think I I lost track i don't know if [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► it's jason or Lisa who who put it this [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► way but but it feels like you know I had [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► a blade of grass moves in the Marvel [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► Universe and suddenly everything's [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► coming up Hitler would just step back [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► I i know i don't have that gift of a [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► gift of phraseology well that wasn't [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► something that was my rephrasing [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► crystallization of avoiding you guys [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► were saying where there's there's there [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► there's the there's the step butterfly [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► thing and everything suddenly goes to [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► talent Aryan right now I've now I'm [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► thinking of the musical about gypsy rose [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► lee deserve everything coming up roses [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► everything's coming up hit large role in [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► Australia having read those incredible [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► hulk it turns out [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► Australia's run by Nazi mutants it is [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► totally as everything's calm it it's not [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► some units in Australia which Magnus [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► tolerates Magneto's closest followers [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► back from when there was asteroid and [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► all that stuff and there's lots of [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► shoulder pads in the nineties these guys [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► are the the followers of this jewish [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► holocaust survivor have turned Australia [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► into into the mutant right [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► yes just about to ask with logical [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► that's never really past this that the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► the ideological consistency check you [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► know I would think that he'd be [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► dedicated to never again they did haha [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► oh oh oh but here's the thing here's the [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► thing is is this is Pietro's idea that [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► he cooks up to keep his sister lines and [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► wellness [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► spoiler horn blaring horn blaring it's [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► like that twist every time I get to that [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► twist your doctor strange in that lower [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► right hand corner is like it wasn't [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► magnetization um what is this some girl [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► well they didn't protest too much a [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► little too much they're right but you [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► know this is a couple of days a couple [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► threads that I find very interesting [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► personally I mean if you know [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► 34-35 our episode allowing I I i would [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► love to talk about Wolverine at some [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► point because the whole will Wolverine [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► remembering thing for some reason just [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► cause I'm always kind of pulling for the [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► little guy that just that really grabbed [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► my heart in this in a similar way to the [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► way that the Peter Parker thing happened [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► but just in terms of a little bit of a [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► plot I and he basically he wakes up [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► what's in the middle of my means in the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► midst of everybody we got this wonderful [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► thing I thought wonderful thing my [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► daughters like why they keep cutting h5 [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► I said well they keep cutting because [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► they're doing this whistle stop tour of [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► like what's happening with everybody but [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► my senior year on your set apart is [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► great though because it was I think [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► that's an issue to its when we're going [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► through I think so [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► the survey of what's happening people [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► and I thought it was so fun i'm not [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► super familiar with Wonder Man right [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► okay i don't know some of the characters [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► super I had to go look them up but like [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► going through there and it's like Janet [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► as you imagine like janet is a fashion [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► designer and Ororo is like the head of [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► kenya kenya yeah very notion are going [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► all this awesome and in Carroll is [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► finally like this famous superhero but [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► then you cut and you cut to like the the [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► adamantium aquarium and you see bubble [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► bubble bubble you don't mean instead of [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► being like oh it you know it's Wolverine [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► and I'm making s'mores with my claws you [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► see that he just read the Windsor is [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► winter [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► what's the guy's name the guy who did [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► the weapon x process is one story was [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► very windsor-smith with a tough read [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► it's a real tough read about like how [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► now 46 what do I care i still find a [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► very tough read what happened to [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► Wolverine because i think it's a very [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► important part of the story and and why [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► we must always remember that he is in [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► constant pain like none of us will ever [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► realize as his body tries to reject his [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► skeleton every second of the day so but [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► instead of you go [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► I was great here's Jana its wide-ranging [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► stress of course [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► well here I have [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► to prep for the night the UM [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► particularly the one seen any see the [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► aquarium right mrs. and you thinking hmm [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► that's kind of interesting so he's faced [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► what he's always wanted to be like my [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► email like what is going on why is he [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► breathing underwater and then he screams [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► in pain and you up from a nightmare [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► yes with a shit with shape-shifted [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► mystique saying looks like it looks like [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► it's jean grey and is a little freaked [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► out at first but it's not be ready [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► nicest recognize it as him but the thing [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► is the Tank part we recognize I think [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► anybody who's ready even a couple of [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► these comments will recognize that as [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► his life altering experience where his [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► bone two bones were all with adamantium [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► got used to his bounds where they [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► basically dissolved the dissolved his [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► entire body covered him with adamantium [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► and then let it regenerate so that's a [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► pretty wow that doesn't seem very fun [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► now but he wakes up next to jean grey [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► but no she's not Jean Grey's mystique [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► know they're like on the Helicarrier [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► because he's like a theory sentinels of [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► the red team and and he's running yeah [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► he's he's he's essentially a shield [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► stooge that's making mistake and he's [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► working for Sebastian Shaw his bosses [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► get fashion show [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► that's just wrong shots running shield [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► it'sit's um course how much did you love [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► the scene in Connecticut though at i had [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► had the whole God and Scott Nana's house [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► where ya and I was like oh yeah honey [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► what else do you notice it's kind of [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► weird about this and she's like there's [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► a sentinel flag but it was so subtle but [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► I thought it was so perfect like what is [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► what is going on in this monkey balls [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► universe now the background on this is [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► beautiful and so is the supporting the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► supporting stuff like there will the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► pulse newspaper and the pop-culture [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► stuff the advertisements they go to they [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► go to Emma's house and then Scott is [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► coming over and they've already kind of [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► woken her up and I was really amused by [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► that especially because I until I read [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► Joss Whedon's astonishing x-men I didn't [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► realize this new status quo which is [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► that that Emma Frost is in the x-men and [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► she's she's going out with [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► Scott Summers I always thought that was [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► kind of bizarre and yet actually kind of [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► brilliant i actually kind of love that [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► that there's this Scott Summers Emma [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► Frost thing I think it is the thing that [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► makes Scott Summers the most interesting [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► he's ever been and there's that great [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► moment in house of them that I don't [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► know maybe maybe it's just me but i love [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► the moment where they look down and [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► realize that they're married they have [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► wedding rings and it's like higher we [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► married right because they're together [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► but if necessary let me too cool to be [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► married his daughter Laila has started [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► to her business on everybody [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah but that's their moment [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► when they when they wake up after [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► Wolverine or jumps off of the [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► Helicarrier into times square [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► yes and sees all the ads for everybody [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► as you do [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► yeah he's like oh great Wonder Man [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► dazzler Mary Jane Watson and and miss [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► marvel are the most popular people on [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► the planet dazzlers Oprah basically it's [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► truly is a dystopia I'm well it is [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► because she is a talented singer and [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► shouldn't be hosting a talk show you get [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► a disco bar you get a disco ball you get [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► a disco ball and you know I think I [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► think dazzler gets gets an [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► extraordinarily unfair amount of crap [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► and if you've read Greg box extreme [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► x-men series that just recently got to [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► got canceled yeah unfortunately that's [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► the star and she's awesome and she's [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► like she has the full shut up tension [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► that the merchants that one more night [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► crawlers the kid [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► yes yeah yes and and Charles Xavier is a [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► severed head in a bubble isn't available [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► on Marvel unlimited Nighy I thought yet [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► I think it's on comixology yeah but it [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► but this is the critical critical the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► critical point here I think we're the [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► story turns the second time now is when [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► Wolverine wakes up you know even if I [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► have again i'm explaining to my daughter [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► she's five and i'm trying to call why [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► wait a minute [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► wat why is a sentinel doesn't seem a [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► little crazy so each turn I'm trying to [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► like you know feed her a little bit of [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► like what's coming because it's a lot to [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► cover but then Wolverine wakes up and [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► two interesting things happen you know [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► first of all he thinks something's up [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► he's the only one we've met so far like [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► you know Peter Parker's pretty smart and [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► he's got spidey sense and stuff and he [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► doesn't know anything is up in his world [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► although he does seem a little bit [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► where did we figure out that he's been [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► kind of been going monkey balls the [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► whole time is exactly what Laura again [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► the this is to me completely off topic [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► but the Robert Reynolds thing or [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► whatever is that there are people who [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► you know something happens with the red [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► gelatin and they know that there's a [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► matrix thing going on the blackness in [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► his case or whatever but two things [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► first of all Wolverine realizes [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► something is amiss [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► that's very interesting the readers are [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► realizing that but then one of my [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► favorite [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► I don't know that love the little guy [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► something happens that's very important [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► in the history of wolverine because it's [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► part of what made his character his [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► character and what happens he suddenly [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► remembers his life [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► yes we have it it's been a huge thing I [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► mean apart from his purse itís that [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► he's had has all the time from the [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► adamantium he doesn't know how old he is [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► we know he's been around since at least [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► like what the Civil War he's probably a [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► hundred and fifty years old and then [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► suddenly there's that heartbreaking like [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► I don't know heartbreaking scene for me [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► where he's like wait a minute he's [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► staying on the Helicarrier the magneto [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► Helicarrier with magneto flags and goes [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► I remember everything I remember my [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► whole life is just wonderful i love [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► these kinds of montages i love the Jean [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► Grey montage and all-new x-men that [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► accomplishes this but is our Peter [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► Parker one and this is great and you see [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► this two-page spread of like this flash [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► of memories you know and when he see him [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► with his bone claws fighting on what a [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► bear or something but I mean like to [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► meet a man at a call [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► haha but did you guys like that I i [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► don't know i might just sentimental or [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► you know if it's your story wise [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► obviously it's interesting that he's [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► realized this and he doesn't know why he [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► doesn't know why it's crazy and he [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► doesn't know and I'm trying to find my [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► daughter like you see like all the [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► levels of crazy here once got these [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► levels of crazy now Wolverine well woke [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► up and he feels like he's taking crazy [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► pills because he knows it's wrong [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► he knows it shouldn't be any says to [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► mustique like we're worried yesterday [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► because because all he knows is that [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► like yesterday he was in a different you [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► know marvel universe so anyway I the [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► fact that he's gets his memory back on [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► her clit acute memory i think is super [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► super interesting to the story even [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► before we meet Layla who knows stuff [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► well thatthat's I mean isn't that the [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► joy of this of [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► of this whole thing I mean I honestly [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► there's there's a big fight at the end i [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► mean really the plot of this is [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► everybody remembers that this is a fake [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► and then there's a big fight and then [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► that that's the end I mean that's kind [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► of that's our kind of the Icebreaker in [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► the Marvel Universe what they are was a [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► fight there or did they are in the end [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► and we have and we have that but I'm [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► just saying the way droppings got Scott [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► monologue about fighting a lot longer [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► than they actually fight i'm just gonna [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► tell you it's it's no world war hulk in [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► terms of fights and I'm just gonna say [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► about that but it was like 68 pages of [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► fighting and then likes got talking for [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► several pages about the ethics of [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► fighting thats that's what this what [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► this is in the house of m is really [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► interesting stories about how these [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► characters little vignettes almost in [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► some cases how these characters deal [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► with their different situation and [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► that's really what what what is [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► interesting to me about it i mean that [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► they're the fights that happens [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► icebreakers and the we're gonna go to [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► Genosha and fight things and which is [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► like a replay of how this all started [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► sort of you know that that was much less [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► interesting to me actually think you [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► later that the spider-man things [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► Wolverine is absolutely true [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► Hawkeye which we haven't really talked [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► about which who is dead in Avengers [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► disassembled it's easily the second [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► least annoying Hawkeye ever know the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► current the current talk a lot of every [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► hawkeye were talking about is pretty hot [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► what hey easy tax heard Curt Hawkeye [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► which is one of the best comics ever and [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► then like it normally like a wise a [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► purple man in a dress like part of the [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► adventures that's a different thing [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► the arms ache Jason Jason you're the [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► you're the the spider guy do you wanna [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► maybe flush out this because I'll tell [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► you i love when I turn that page the [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► babies crying and then you see that [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► blonde hair and you're like oh yeah well [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► that's what's that if they were doing [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► and if that George O'Keefe white flash [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► was real man something just crazy balls [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► just happy at the end of the first issue [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► that's all we see is the little there's [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► a picture and uh and some and some [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► blonde hair and that it had no red hair [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► no you just hit a double jackpot tiger [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► you have also so it's when we discovered [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► the Peter Parker's not just like happy [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► and doesn't just like have Gwen Stacy [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► alive he is famous rich has a big giant [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► conglomerate is an entertainment star is [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► known as most better man and Peter [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► Parker is married to Gwen Stacy they [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► have a son is buying Norman Osborn out [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► from under himself yes [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► headbutt has bought out all Norman [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► Osborn stuff Gwen Stacy drops the hammer [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► when Stacy Parker drops the hammer on [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► Norman Osborn he buys all the stuffs [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► have fun and see what else I uncle ben's [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► alive and man alive [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► captain Stacy is alive he's not racked [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► with constant Peter Parker this anymore [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► which is given as you say that this [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► becomes like age of fear planet house of [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► them like will be bummed but like in [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► this case you're like oh god the guy [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► Connor break he's got my daughter loves [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► Richie like all yeah he's two or three [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► he's so cute he's got the little boy and [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► you go like oh god [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► Uncle Ben you know it's I in and you're [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► like you aren't you a pretty big spider [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► and guy [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► oh yeah goodbye my love goes up and down [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► low but I mean from back in the day like [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► we talked about this on the another [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► program identified by five and like how [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► it sits so one of the things that makes [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► well maybe arguably you guys tell me if [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► you think otherwise but i think one of [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► the things so obvious makes Peter [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► Parker's spider and such a great [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► character is that as awesome as he is as [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► funny as he is and talented and helpful [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► and the fact that he'll like stop what [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► he's doing and like he's he's never got [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► any money [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► he's always poor and he'll like stop [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► whatever he's doing because he feels [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► like he has to help somebody because [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► there's still that one day from 1960 [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► diggity 123 or whatever it was he [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► screwed up really bad one time and that [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► now defines his character in a way that [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► I think is pretty credible a lot of the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► time and he doesn't have that now he's [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► got the woman that he loved and my god [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► when you see that one panel with the [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► snap [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► doesn't that just gonna break your heart [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► a little its with with great power comes [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► great riches and success [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► apparently in this world and attending [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► publicist named jay jones gmail yes yes [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► yes he hires Jonah as his publicist so [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► that he can treat them like dirt and [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► it's it's it's it [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► yeah it's interesting because it is such [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► a departure and it isn't the Peter [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► Parker that we know and at you know i [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► was fascinated from that the whole idea [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► of like well and finally he's got a he's [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► got a break but that's of course the [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► thing is this can't this can't stay and [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► it's got to go back and it and but it's [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► very upsetting for him because he's [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► really got [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► you know this wonderful life that he has [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► to give up and so from his perspective [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► all of a sudden he's losing his child [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► and his wife and his uncle who he or she [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► lost so painfully so long ago and got [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► back and and Gwen's father and you know [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► and it's but he didn't know again like [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► not to beat to death but he's got my [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► family he doesn't I mean like it's one [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► thing that like protect and maintain her [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► numerous heart attacks as his diary [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► reveals but you know twisted insane [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► diary his diary but that that's in that [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► looks like his diary that's like out of [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► the out of this the the pages of the [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► movie seven haha that's a really that's [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► a lot of information for one diary but [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► again he's got a family [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► he's gone he's gone beyond having to [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► worry about basically having the [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► slightly retarded personality i I'm [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► sorry that you know the word i'm trying [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► to use here is using that the kind of [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► backward mentality of a slightly [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► sophisticated high school student to now [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► having a family where he can be a [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► grown-up right and he's genuinely happy [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► which is nice [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► he's a fully-realized adult he's [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► literally getting to where the daddy [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► pins [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► yes of course he's it's all it's all a [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► sham because he said said to everyone [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► that he's a mutant and he's not all that [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► I see that was the best part of the time [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► because I hadn't thought about that a [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► lot i mean in that got me thinking why [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► did you kill Luke Cage in my beloved [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► black cat like what why were they [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► allowed to still live you know what I [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► mean it's not like they're they were [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► used to make soylent green or something [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► but but in spite his case he didn't he [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► was passing his pattern Rams passing [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► strange well it's the then this whole [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► thing for me brought up a bigger [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► question that continue to ripple across [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► the timestream as I jumped from [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► crossover crossover in the wrong order [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► in a way that could only be bad for my [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► brain where I started thinking about [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► well what what is a mutant really and [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► why do we not classify Peter Parker is a [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► mutant it is all well he wasn't born [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► that way so that second drill [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► well they don't they don't have that she [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► didn't have the gene they don't have the [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► gene but the the fluffy science that [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► they used to define all the stuff in the [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► first place kind of starts to fall apart [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► when it's well is it is it a gene [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► sequence because then theoretically you [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► could have the same kind of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► in sequence be what has been inserted [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► into jessica andrews DNA what [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► well depending on which of the 17 [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► different versions there now are of [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► Peter Parker's origin as spider-man you [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► go with you know that it gets more and [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► more complicated as to well how mutated [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► are you really well i always like that [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► in ultimate spider-man where there is [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► this in the Ultimate Universe there is [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► this kind of dichotomy between humans [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► and mutants to and it's a little bit [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► differently drawn than it is in the main [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► Marvel Universe I like that that [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► spider-man is I think basically assumed [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► to be Peter Parker assumed to be a [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► mutant in his interactions with the [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► x-men and when he's dating Kitty Pryde [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► and it puts him in an interesting [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► position because what he can't do is say [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► oh no no no I'm not a mutant you can [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► like me because his friends are there [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► are mutants and and that puts him in [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► this terrible position of saying you [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► don't have to discriminate against me [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► i'm not a mutant and so we just started [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► just deals with it that they think he's [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► a mutant even though he's not that but [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that also gets to that to the core [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► discrimination issue which is that you [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► know we as enlighten people can look at [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► people of many races and say well [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► certainly there are differences but [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► there's nothing genetically that makes [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► these people who look a certain way bad [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► people but that again to me this go [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► straight back to the discrimination [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► thread from the sixties from the you [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► know x-men vol 1 stuff [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► yep which is that you know what you got [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► superpowers that's great you know that's [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► that super you know we are you know wewe [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► really like we love we love Captain [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► Marvel we love whomever but like you [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► know what I've never trusted those [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► mutants because they're different and [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► they think they're better than us homo [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► superior really so i think that's that's [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► a key thing that can't be lost and it's [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► also the threat of them overtaking [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► humanity i think is is is what's playing [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► there at least in the in the storyline [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► is that it always it always has been [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► if you get hit because you're in the [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► street and there's a truck with [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► radioactive material that strikes you in [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► the head makes you blind gives you a [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► radar sense so that you can see but [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► without seeing that's a what I mean well [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► how often is that going to happen what's [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► right part of my mates striker so great [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► in God loves man kills which I really [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► don't know if you guys are fans but like [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► I just got [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► i recommend that but Kylie and I am as a [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► standalone standalone yes-men story it's [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► pretty hard to beat because he said its [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► I mean for those of you who are anywhere [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► near my advanced age you really remember [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► i said since without judgment criticism [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► but there was a time in the eighties [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► where we were pretty overrun by like TV [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► ministers and zealots who were going way [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► out of their way to create these you [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► know bifurcations in the culture and and [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► that's why i thought that was so [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► effective in that case and in this case [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► you know obviously is taking this thing [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► in turning it on its head but I don't [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► know I thought the idea you know the [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► phrase passing strange the idea that you [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► could pass because there was a time [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► especially in the US where if you are [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► very light-skinned you know that Lena [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► Horne I think Lena Horne i try to [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► remember this correctly but people with [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► the skin tone of a lena horne could get [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► away with being white which is why they [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► would say that their their Latin there [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► sure anybody watching part puerto rican [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► but I watched Ken Burns's jazz thing you [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► know that you know Louie Armstrong did [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► not get to sleep in the nice hotels even [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► exactly gifted musician in America and I [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► I thought they just that well can I I [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► the thing that I just can't let go of an [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► in-house of em is that those those [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► little holes that are poked in it where [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► I'm like well this is this is really [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► more more like an issue of what if [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► stretched out then in a full-on [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► storyline because this character in this [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► character in this character there I I [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► almost can't understand why they would [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► wish for this like why would why would [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► the Hulk's most fervent wish b2b out at [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► peace among a bunch of aboriginals and [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► then have to reenact world war hulk are [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► not world war hulk planet hulk to some [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► extent in Australia and and still not be [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► happy and at peace like why are none of [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► these people's most farthest but because [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► he goes back to jason's theory that [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► wanted was strategically deploying [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► people into into lives that would keep [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► them distracted and away from her but [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► also but all she also i mean like this [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► to me is is work it's interesting also [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► is that she placed everybody it's never [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► been played video games but what like [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► sims or something like that [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► just started out you put all these [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► people into this little environments [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► that ok or dnd for example like i'm [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► going to give you this vorpal weapon in [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► this mini heart boots and in this gold [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► and then we'll see what happens [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► like I've set you up but in this [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► instance who knows like we're in that [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► whatever 15 years that this has been [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► going on that didn't get the census this [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► has been happening because remember he [TS]