Under the Radar 43: Pending An Apple Release
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welcome to under the radar a show about
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independent iOS app development I'm
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Marco Arment and I'm David Smith under
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the radar is never longer than 30
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minutes so let's get started
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so as we are recording this we are about
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a week away from the see you on the
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seventh event which is expected to be
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sort of like the big fall Apple event
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they used to be pretty typical that
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Apple would do a couple of events in the
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fall they seem to be moving to just one
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so like next week the seventh is gonna
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be kind of the kind of it probably this
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year and so well the actual like
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speculations about what's gonna be
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announced and those types of things are
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mostly Hardware related so we're not
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going to probably talk too much about
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that but it seems like a good time to
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talk through sort of the concepts of
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what to expect what to prepare for and
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what to think about going into next week
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because it'll probably happen at least
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this is just based on the a past history
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hopefully predicting a few future
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results is the well Davi you know the
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actual announcement I think it's at
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10:00 a.m. Pacific next Wednesday and
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they'll announce all the things and that
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sometime a few hours after that they
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will release all the the GM's of
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everything so it'll be the you know the
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GM of iOS watch Oh a Ciara TV OS those
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will all go out so we can you know
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download them and do all of our final
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tests and checks and all those kinds of
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things for hopefully all the app updates
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that we've been working on and we'll
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guess we'll have the opportunity to work
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on that and then sometime probably that
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night it always drives me a little bit
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crazy because I live on the East Coast
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and so all of these things are happening
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west coast times and so the opening of
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iTunes Connect to submit new binaries
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built with the new stuff will sort of
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open you know sometime late that night
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usually I'm trying to think last year it
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may have been something like 10 p.m. my
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time something like that it opened up
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and so that point you know you can build
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your new app and you can submit it to
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the App Store because usually the new OS
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updates will be will be released to the
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public about a week later so in this
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case that'll be around the 14th
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and in anticipation of the iPhones and
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any new hardware that's coming out
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launching probably the following Friday
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so they usually typically in the last
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few years they've staged it so that iOS
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really updates comment first those wat
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over-the-air to all the existing iPhones
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in the world and then the iPhones will
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launch a few days later and ideally your
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app will be ready to go on day one on
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the plus side that's probably easier
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this year than it's ever been because
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app reviews so fast now that before when
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app review length was about a week if
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you didn't submit in that first wave of
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people you know so when they open up
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they open up the floodgates at say you
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know 10:00 p.m. on Wednesday if you
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weren't in that first wave you may
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actually not be ready to go usually they
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do a great job they would try as hard as
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they could you kind of got the
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impression that during that week app
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review is like all hands on deck but
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still it was always important to try and
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be in there really soon so that you were
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ready on day one whereas this year it's
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if you have reviews are gonna take a day
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or two you may even be able to get a
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couple of rejection approval cycles
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through in that time but that's sort of
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when I'm expecting for next week does
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that make sense to you based on past
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experience yeah I mean that's that's the
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most likely to happen for sure I mean
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one thing that that is worth observing
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this time is this is going to be the
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first big rush of submissions since the
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app review delay dropped suspiciously
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from one week to less than one day so
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it'll be interesting to see like if you
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know basically how much the influx of
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submissions affect that time whether it
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really makes it spike back up to maybe a
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week or maybe it you know it doesn't
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keep itself nice and nice and fast the
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way it has been for these last few
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months also I think it'll be interesting
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to see what the rejection controversy of
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the year will be you know like every
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every year like you know every time
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there's a new version of iOS that adds
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new capabilities the whole bunch people
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try to take advantage of those and some
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of some of the things people try to do
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Apple decides that's not within what we
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what we had in mind or that's not the
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kind of thing we want to allow and so
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even if there wasn't necessarily a rule
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that explicitly prohibited it during
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development before oftentimes new rules
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be created and established during this
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initial fall rush because you know it
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usually you know it's not like it's not
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usually like evil or anything it's
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usually just like Apple didn't realize
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that oh you know what we didn't think
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about that thing that you just did with
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this new ability we had and we don't
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want you to do that but inevitably this
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always causes lots of grief for all the
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people involved at the developer Apple
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and all of us who read about it and
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complain about it because ultimately
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that these are all really messy policies
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and messy problems that are that are
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hard to get right on all sides and so I
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think it'll be to see what that will be
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there's a lot of new stuff available
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that you can play with now a lot of new
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apps and app capabilities you can do all
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the entire messages app store to me it's
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I am really curious to what happens
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there I'm also really curious to see
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whether there will be a big rush of iOS
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10 apps on day one or for day one
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because it seems to me and this this
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could just be like anecdotal or the
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people I hang around with or whatever
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else you know they this is based on
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nothing except my own intuition and
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anecdotes but it does seem to me that
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there is less of a push to get your
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stuff out there on day one recently as
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the App Store economy become as we
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discussed last episode as the economy
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becomes a lot more challenging and a lot
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of Indies just have bowed out or have
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had to take consulting work to pay a lot
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of the bills and a lot of you know
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there's they're basically like there's
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less I think there's less upside now to
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rushing your stuff out and being there
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on day one for new platforms new
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capabilities new iOS versions things
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like that because the app market has
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cooled down so much for people like us
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but I don't I mean you know better than
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I because you you you are almost always
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out there on day one with with new stuff
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have you do you think it's still worth
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getting out there on day one and do you
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do you expect a lot of people will or is
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it is it either not worth it or can
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people not really afford to spend that
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much time on it I think so it is always
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yeah I've done a lot of getting ready
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for day one and this
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my plan is I originally had been hoping
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to have my next new app ready for day
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one it doesn't look like that's gonna
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happen but instead I'm just gonna have
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updates for iOS 10 watch OS 3 for my
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main apps will be ready on day one you
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know they're essentially ready now I'm
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in the final stages of testing and I've
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been focused on that and I think though
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that makes a lot of sense that if you
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have an existing product that has a new
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capability that it can take advantage of
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to be ready on day one that's like it's
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a surgery or you're in a doubly good
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situation there on the one side like in
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this case for a lot of my apps watch OS
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3 is the big new thing and it's so great
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for me because my apps
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Akin's really take advantage of that and
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B's a lot better so this you know a lot
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of my apps are going to be switching to
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they're gonna require still require iOS
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9 but they're going to require iOS or
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watch OS 3 because what reversed 3 is
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just so much better and so I'm looking
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forward to just dropping support for
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watch OS 2 and plowing ahead there and
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they'll be better for developers and
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then I think also it's it's it's also
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beneficial to you because if you have an
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existing app especially one with a
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reason you know any kind of existing
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audience following whatever and you do
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an update that takes advantage of the
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new stuff I think it's easier to get on
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Apple's radar for being featured or
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being in that group of you know things
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like or even not from Apple and just
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from the press like it's easier to kind
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of get it get that little boost of
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attention but other than that like it is
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a I think there was a time when trying
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to fight for that do that day one like
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being the first to do something maybe
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booth mattered more but I will certainly
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say I don't think it matters nearly as
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much as it used to to be in that first
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wave of things because in general it's
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so difficult and the volume of apps
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coming out in the App Store is so high
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that in some ways it's worse to be in
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that first real wave like this is always
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the tension that I've always felt when I
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come and I come towards the end of the
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summer is on there's the upside of being
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in that first wave is like there's that
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there's a built-in audience looking for
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new stuff both on Apple and their
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team as well as in the press as well as
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customers like penis a I got a brand new
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phone I wonder what I can do it can do
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this cool new thing great I want to take
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advantage of that but I'm the downside
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you're competing against all the people
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trying to take advantage of that
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built-in audience at the same time and
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so you're like via the focus that you
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could get on yourself is so much more
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diluted that even if you are ready and
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you are in that first wave and you do
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get some attention from some other
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things you're going to be sharing that
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with you know tens or 20 of the other
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apps like you're gonna be one of the you
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know here's the ten new apps for iOS 10
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you need to be aware of like the you're
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in a slideshow you're being you know
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you're in that slideshow on the verge or
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something you're not whereas if you wait
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a couple months and you release your new
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app in November say you may actually
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just get attention on your own in a way
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that is probably a bit more constructive
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especially when you know as like this is
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a really busy time for that for the
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press in general and so they're not
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quite as much looking for articles to
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write like if you do it later when new
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things are a bit slower in the news
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cycle and you're just you know it's it's
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nice for them to have something
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interesting to write about like that has
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a great benefit too and there's always
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been a tension there's always been that
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the tension between if you're in that
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like that new group it's like you're
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your potential is bigger perhaps but
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you're the risk of getting lost in the
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noise I think is also higher and I think
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so in general like the fact that I'm
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know I'm gonna miss day one with my next
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app like I there's a time when I'd
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probably be worried about that at this
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point I'm not really worried I'm like
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that's fine it'll just I'll release it
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sometime this fall when it's ready and
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go from there and I'm not too worried
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about being ready on day one except for
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you know from the for the iOS updates
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that I have now and obviously if you
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have an app update that is necessary you
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know so if your app doesn't work
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correctly on the new platform or a
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situation like that you obviously want
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to be ready on day one so that you don't
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have the situation where everyone
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installs iOS 10 and your app stops
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working like it starts crashing on
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launch or something like you want to be
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ready on day one if that were the case
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but in general you can just kind of take
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it easy at this point I'd say and the
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good thing about that ladder
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to about like if your app actually
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doesn't work on ten you probably know
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that already because that probably
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happened during the beta period and so
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many people are in the betas these days
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that you can generally be sure that if
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your app if the if the previous version
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build of your app like if the you know
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building with the Iowa's nine SDK but
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happened but running it on iOS 10 if
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that has worked during the betas it'll
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probably work during the GM so you can
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be reasonably assured of that you know
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most of the time but you know I too have
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have faced a similar dilemma of like do
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you want to join the rush do you want to
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compete in the rush and you know try to
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catch that big wave early on and
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ultimately I I don't know how big the
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wave is like the the idea here is that
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you are competing with all these other
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you know attention-grabbing
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sources here and all these other apps
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that are vying for features and press
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reviews and everything else the whole
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obviously years where iPhone and iPad
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heard of and bought or not bought your
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apps and so what I've seen over time is
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you know it major holidays like
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Christmas and major new iPhone and iPad
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releases used to cause big spikes in my
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sales or and or downloads and over time
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the size of those spikes has actually
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all with everybody else because the wave
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not big enough to make it worth all the
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competition and fighting for all the
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all just be wishful thinking because I'm
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not gonna be ready on day one either
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not even close I have done I've done
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only a very small part of the work on
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overcast 3.0 so far and it's most likely
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going to be a spring release not a fall
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release if I had to take a guess now but
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I you know I I think that's ultimately
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not that bad of a thing because as you
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said like there's so many people vying
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for the tension on day zero of the new
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release and the new phones being
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released that like I as a user as a
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person who loves apps and reads blogs
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about apps and stuff I get overwhelmed
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with all the announcements that are made
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and I usually end up forgetting more
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than half of them and I have to imagine
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that happens a lot a lot of other people
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too because there's just so much that
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happens during this time so much is
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released that you know you could score
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big and get a lot of attention from it
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but I think it's much more based on luck
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at that point than the rest of the year
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when there's less competition per day
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for attention and you have generally a
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better chance of being noticed and I
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think there's something to be said to
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for its the looking at what you're
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trying to build an understanding if the
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if it is truly a new I guess so I'm
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thinking about a little bit of the
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history with one of my half speedometer
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plus plus which is a step counter and I
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remember quite specifically how that app
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came to be because it was one of those
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cases where being there on day one
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turned out to be perhaps not essential
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but very important for the way that it
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gained traction and so several years ago
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when the Apple first added a motion
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coprocessor to the iPhone that we'd gone
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through all the way through the summer
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like in WDC and there are no sign in any
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of the SDKs or in the GM or and the
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betas or anything about to this new
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capability there's going to come out at
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the new phone and at the event
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Phyllis Trillo gets on the stage and
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says hey it has this motion processor
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that can count steps and that evening or
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I guess a few hours after the event your
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Apple updates the new GM's and I go into
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the beta diffs and there's this new
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class cm pedometer and it was a way of
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measuring and tracking steps and at this
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point there's no hardware that
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cysts that can do that the simulator
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doesn't do it and I was like you know
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but I think this is kind of cool I'd
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like to make a pedometer using this API
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and so I spent the next week without a
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heart without any hardware working on a
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version of this aware version of the app
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that ultimately would become phenomenal
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plus plus and you know I remember I that
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you know that iPhone launch I stayed up
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at in you know told like oh it's not
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quite over night I got up maybe at like
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2:00 or 3:00 in the morning I went to
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line up at my local Apple store I went I
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got an iPhone I ran back to my office I
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plugged you know plugged it in checked
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this app that I've been working entirely
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theoretically the past week on made sure
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that it worked as soon as it showed any
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kind of step counting I just submitted
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to the App Store and hope for the best
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and it turned out that was a big big
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boon for that particular app because
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there were no apps at all that could
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today were taking advantage of the m7
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chip at that time and so when people in
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the press when people who had just
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bought these new phones we're looking to
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see if it what like what is this new
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thing and how does it work I was able to
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be an app that you know people could go
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and try and so it was important to be in
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that first wave because there was this
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pent-up to sort of demand for that that
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being in not if I had released the same
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app a few months later there wouldn't
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have been nearly that same sort of
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initial interest and so that was a new
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Scituate like something completely new
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and something that being there on being
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the first sort of mattered whereas a lot
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of updates are a lot of apps that if
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you're doing something that wasn't
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completely impossible before you know if
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you're doing if you were doing it's just
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an update to an existing app or it's an
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app in an existing category that takes
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advantage perhaps of the new stuff but
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isn't completely new and revolutionary
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then you know waiting probably doesn't
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matter as much but I'm definitely you
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know every year I will go to the event
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or go to the event I'll watch the event
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next week and one of the things I will
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turn always be paying attention to it's
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like is there something new that they're
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announcing here that hasn't been in the
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betas that is going to magically appear
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next Wednesday and is there an
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opportunity there and if there is like
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maybe I'll chase after it but if it's
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not in that category
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where you have something very specific
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that is it wasn't possible before it's
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probably fine to just let it go
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yeah I'm curious to think like what you
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know for for what we have heard in the
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rumor mill about these new iPhones and
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possibly new watches I wonder like what
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what kinds of things might that be that
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that become available next week that we
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don't know about yet and you know
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according to the rumor mill like I think
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the the rumored dual camera or dual lens
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camera on the on the big phone the the
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plus size phone that might be something
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interesting you know lots of people use
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their phones as a camera that's a really
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big business dealing with camera apps
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and photo processing and everything else
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so anything that is enabled by a a
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substantially better camera might be a
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really new category to go into later but
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of course there's gonna be lots of
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competition in the head but and even
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there like the tricky thing is whatever
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that new capability that camera has the
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built-in Apple camera will probably be
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able to do it exactly yes I think that's
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the thing where it gets really
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interesting is finding an opportunity
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where there's a new capability that
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Apple isn't themselves addressing at all
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like that like that intersection is
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where really interesting app
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opportunities exist and and of course
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and and the watch also like you know if
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if the watch hardware comes out as
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rumored sometime soon who knows and if
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the rumors are true that it has Hardware
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GPS and maybe some other upgrades like
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would that also enabled new stuff looks
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like maybe it's it's tricky because like
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so many of these things I think about
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you know with the watch and GPS and
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maybe I'm just not creative enough but
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it's a tricky thing to imagine a totally
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new thing that you could do with that
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like it's useful for the watch to have
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GPS but because it requires your iPhone
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to be near to it to do anything with the
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data unless you're doing a sort of
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retrospectively it you your iPhones had
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a GPS in it since the 3G I think or
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something like that doesn't so it's not
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a brand new totally you know new
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capability and so it's tricky to imagine
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what that would be it's it's like it
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will probably make existing apps better
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and those kinds of changes are ones that
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are think are less
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exciting from a like new category
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perspective you know even like you're
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saying with the camera like there's lots
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of camera existing camera apps and so
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even if you took advantage of the new
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dual camera system in some amazing and
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awesome and cool way you're right you're
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going into a set ready saturated market
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it's not a new market that didn't exist
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before where suddenly rather than
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competing against thousands of apps
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you're competing against ten apps you
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know that would be exciting that would
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the goal or at least it's a nice
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confirmation that the work you've been
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doing is you know is is good is
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worthwhile is perhaps gonna have some
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application to the App Store and you
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then get an email back from Apple saying
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your app is being considered for
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promotion which I remember you know I
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the first time I got one of those I mean
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it's like dancing around my office like
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that is so cool too because up until
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that point so much for your development
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process has been in fairly isolated or
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lonely like you've got or like you've
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shown it to your friends but obviously
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they're gonna be nice to you because
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they're your friends but Apple has no
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interest in being nice to you in that
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regard like if your app isn't good
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they're not gonna feature it and so it's
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really cool to get that external
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validation when you get an email and the
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way that process typically works is
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you'll get an email back and it'll say
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you know hey your app is being you know
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considered for promotion and within the
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App Store and they need some things from
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you and it's important to probably
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emphasize that they say considered for
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promotion it's anything anything that
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any interactions you have it you have
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with Apple in this sort of process are
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entirely there's no guarantees that they
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may or may not end up actually featuring
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you it's just going to depend on what
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makes sense what you give back to them
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you know like a lot of times I get the
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impression that there's different you
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know they're trying to put together
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different campaigns or collections of
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apps on their end and if they don't get
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enough of apps in one
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Gouri or just they decide to go another
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way maybe they'll just sort of you that
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that particular promotion that they were
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thinking about may not ever run what
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they'll ask you for is essentially that
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banner that you see in the app store so
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if you open up the App Store right now
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on your phone and go to any category or
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the featured pages you'll see like the
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not not the app icon display the kind of
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the bigger rectangles just that you know
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usually have the apps name and some kind
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of artwork associated with it and
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essentially Apple is just asking you to
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make that that banner for you and so if
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you get one of these emails and you get
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that you know get that artwork usually
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it said based they'll give you say
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something along the lines of you know
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you have a couple of days to get back to
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them I would definitely encourage you to
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work hard to get something back to them
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it's one of the it's definitely I
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wouldn't push it in terms of if they say
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they need it by next Thursday I'd get it
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to them next Wednesday you know you want
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to be responsive and doing everything
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you can on there on your end because I
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imagine you're not the only one they're
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sending that email to and so anything
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you can do to make their life easier
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it's going to just increase the chances
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that you're gonna end up being featured
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you know that much more but you know you
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put together this big PSD file you'll
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send it back to them and then you wait
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and if the waiting part is definitely
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always a little bit disconcerting like I
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you often find you know someone else
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will tell you that your app is being
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featured because you just never know
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when it's gonna happen there's not a lot
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of visibility into that and they don't
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tell you and if they choose it like they
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like no one tells you unless you notice
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it or someone else exactly they like you
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there's no it's not no it's not like a
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conversation you're having it's very you
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get the email that says give us this
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thing and you upload the thing into
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iTunes Connect and then you just wait
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yeah yeah it used to be FTP servers and
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before there was email attachments at
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one time like it the system has gotten a
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lot better over the years so a couple
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things number one most at metrics
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services things like app figures or the
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one I use they will usually have a way
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to track whether you're featured so you
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don't have to be checking every store in
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every country with every category and
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every page so you usually like vailable
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they lovely attract that which is nice
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Apple will occasionally request things
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for their social media accounts and you
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and I have both had this happen that so
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that that's like the app store account
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on on Twitter and I believe is also on
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on Facebook and the requirements are
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pretty different for those than for the
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regular promotional artwork they have a
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lot of restrictions on them that
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basically mean that you will probably
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have to make something brand new just
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for that often times you will have to go
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to a designer just for that or license
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new a new stock photo or something like
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that that's one of the ones I did those
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are probably not worth it in my
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experience so far it so basically these
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these artwork requests it is almost
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always worth responding to them
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completely and quickly but it is not
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probably worth having to go like hire a
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designer for a whole lot more time or
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buy new assets or create all new assets
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if it's gonna be a lot of time or
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expense to you because the chances of
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you getting featured are already not
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probably above 50% and the chances you
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getting featured in a place that drives
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enough downloads to matter is pretty low
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as well and so you know keep it you know
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keep your head straight when you get
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these requests don't go totally nuts
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trying to serve them with like the most
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amazing stuff in the world because you
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know it the possible upside usually is
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fairly small and and the the ones that
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had the larger upsides like the big a
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star banners are actually the easiest
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ones to make you don't go nuts yeah and
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I think that's very fair to say that I
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think it's important to you anytime you
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get an opportunity I mean this it
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applies probably to a lot of you know
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press publications as things as well but
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in general like if you have an
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opportunity to someone's asking for
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assets from you to help them promote to
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you like that's pretty much a good thing
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and yeah I wouldn't go crazy like
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whenever I get the the social media ones
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that ask for things like I just got a
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you know a stock photo site I'll find a
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relevant image you know formatted in the
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way they need it and send it off and
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it's yeah it's a cut maybe a couple
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hours work you could imagine going down
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the road of doing a lot of heavy work
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there but it's probably not going to pay
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off because the difference between an
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amazing featured banner a
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just a basic future banner it's probably
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relatively small in terms of traffic and
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like you said I mean that the social
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ones I found have some impact may be on
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on downloads but not very much there's
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just not not new there's something not
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nearly as powerful as you know being
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promoted in the App Store which is an
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app someone has launched because they're
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looking for an app and then they'll see
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a promotion for an app so they're ready
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in the I want an app oh look here's an
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app oh let me get this app it's always
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gonna be more powerful than you know
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someone's on Twitter looking at the news
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or on Facebook looking at you know like
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pictures from their friends and then
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they see and you know something about an
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app but this is never gonna be as
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compelling so I wouldn't worry about it
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quite as much exactly yeah so keep your
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head on straight don't get your hopes up
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too far but respond quickly it sounds
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all right that's all the time we have
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for this week thank you everybody for
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listening and we will talk to you next