00:00:03 ◼ ► the incomparable number 139 maybe 20-30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► podcast I'm your host Jason smell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► tonight we're convening an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/18">TS</a>]
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00:00:26 ◼ ► going to talk about a wrinkle in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/26">TS</a>]
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00:00:30 ◼ ► and what apparently as a series of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► books on this subject but I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/31">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► none of them but the first one and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/34">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► read i think one of the others but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► news peg here the thing that makes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► extra relevant for today's audiences is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► that recently hope larson created a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► graphic novel adaptation that i also am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► holding i have each of them in one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► right now many of us remember this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/51">TS</a>]
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00:00:59 ◼ ► a wrinkle in time with the childlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► handwriting of my wife on the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► california short was nine years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► I and then of course the new hope larson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► so we're going to talk about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/70">TS</a>]
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00:01:16 ◼ ► Schmeisser you heard her laughing hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/76">TS</a>]
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00:01:21 ◼ ► to be here thank you serenity Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► hi hi Jason good to have you and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/83">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► first time not not really appearing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/88">TS</a>]
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00:01:34 ◼ ► incomparable radio theatre on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► and somebody who reads things apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► too because he's read this it's david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► yeah it's good to have you a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► time I remember this book very clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► from when I was a kid I I my copy didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► I think survive to my adult life I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► wind in the door I think that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► managed to keep for a long time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► always thought it was funny that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► the receipt one of the sequels and could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► thought I'd found it turns out that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► was just the one that my my wife had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► brought to the to the marriage it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► her name's on the inside it's proof that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► it's not mine but but and i have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► memory of that yellow cover with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► sort of scent or alien with a rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► coming out of its back and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► what they've got they've got the rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► wings on the the Centaur take a corn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► yeah and that and then in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► oh I don't have that yeah that's the 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► have no yes it has the floating green it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► bring the lower third the lower third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► the book spoilers and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► there's the the rainbow egg accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► enough dude and then minus the newbery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► award winning classic metal legs yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/171">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► yeah that's well that's we have slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► different editions I'm not really happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► with my rainbow rainbow centaur person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► actually like the rainbow centaurs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► the hope larson adaptation a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► more because they look like wings where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► painting on the set of and the 70 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► it's like a rainbow they were stabbed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► the back by radio now there's a rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► stuck in their bag because you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/194">TS</a>]
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00:03:17 ◼ ► a purple van and you know that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► like a dreamcatcher hanging from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/199">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► window and this would be airbrushed onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► one side of it and the people driving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► would tumble out make it smell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► exactly yeah spiritual unicorn you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► listen you sure sure exalted more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► keeping with the angles of aesthetics so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► I guess we should start by talking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► little bit about about what your history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► is with this with this book if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► got a fun childhood memory like i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► remember reading it and the sequels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► keeping it around and finding it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► strange but I didn't have you know my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► memory of the book the only one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► can remember it you know with is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► first book and it's funny my memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► beginning more it although a bit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/243">TS</a>]
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00:04:09 ◼ ► remember the first couple of chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/249">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► and then there's this whole other plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/250">TS</a>]
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00:04:17 ◼ ► more than half the book because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/257">TS</a>]
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00:04:21 ◼ ► we'll probably get to that where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► that I think of this like sort of setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► and meeting the characters you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/264">TS</a>]
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00:04:29 ◼ ► meeting the characters but so let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► what wonder what are your histories with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► it let's start with lisa i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/274">TS</a>]
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00:04:40 ◼ ► I think that brought it home over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/280">TS</a>]
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00:04:45 ◼ ► i had raided my allowance and God back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► and bought my own trilogy and I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► have a little cardboard box that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► around the three books so it was a gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/291">TS</a>]
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00:05:00 ◼ ► wrinkle in time blew my mind and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/300">TS</a>]
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00:05:06 ◼ ► toward the end of the book when we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/306">TS</a>]
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00:06:36 ◼ ► time and it's it wasn't available that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/396">TS</a>]
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00:06:42 ◼ ► conceptualize a tesseract like i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► it's a square square root of the sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/405">TS</a>]
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00:06:52 ◼ ► yeah David what's your original your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/412">TS</a>]
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00:07:26 ◼ ► which was the third one and took it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► the shelf and said here try this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► don't know why she gave it to me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/451">TS</a>]
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00:07:43 ◼ ► chronologically the last two it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► weird anyway so the I mean I i had read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/465">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► them when i was thinkin second or third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► grade and it was the same kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► it was sort of oh my god you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► the the the thought and the thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► the sonnet and then that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► you could create you know once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► figured out the pattern you were set for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► everything else right and then I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► read them for years and years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► and so it was interesting to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► to them now and sort of fill in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► blanks as i was going because i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► graphic novel first and I and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► wheat that where did what did she leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► out there and then I went back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► book and when oh yeah I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/508">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► interesting again how much I remembered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► of the setup and how much I remembered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► of the the the place setting for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► each environment they go to write and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► didn't remember the details I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the quotes or the the very very faint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► theology that's in there already what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► this is a book i read very very early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► when I was younger my parents were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/544">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► musicians they played at a at a church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► every weekend and before the church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/552">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► service they had to go in ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► everything set up and to start start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► choir and in the meantime my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► would drop me off with a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► mutual friend who also went to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► church and her daughter Kate was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► same age as me and I think at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► we were probably six or seven something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► like that maybe maybe closer to 10 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► mean we we basically hung out every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► Saturday for five or six years and kate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► and and her mother were rabid book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► collectors and her mother worked for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► LA times so I every week I was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► going over to Kate's and pulling off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► different book from her shelf and taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► it and hiding it in church and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/601">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► when I accidentally picked up Franklin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► time it was one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/609">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► you start reading it you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► realize that it's a book that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► affect you as much as it does because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/618">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► truthfully you know I'm even even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► nine or ten yeah you can still it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► resonates very deeply the feeling of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► know if you're a little bit stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► than everybody else for your little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► outside of the curve you can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► identify with meg you can identify with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► Charles Wallace and there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► these characters that really resonate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► even if you're not quite sure by their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► resonate it's a it's a book for me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► you know what when i read it the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► time I just thought it was brilliant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► I went I went back and I stole the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► of them from katie and read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► those up a storm and then basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► pestered my mother daily until I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► actually go to a bookstore and buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► sets but you know when I look back on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► it's a weird it's a it's a book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► value very it's a book of value very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► highly it's a it's a quartet that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► value very highly and that I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► these books over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► probably second to you know Little House [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► on the Prairie or it'sit's just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► weird sort of thing this book resonates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► to me in images almost rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► phrases although it's funny enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► reading through hope Larson's graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► visualizes the characters in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► fantastic way without actually taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► away from your own imagination of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► it looks like and what what this is who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► and mrs. whatsit all look like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► reading the graphic novel was I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► funny how many of those lines I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► could recall my heart even know I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► to know if i if i SAT and picked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► book again i don't think i've read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► book in 10 years now but there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/729">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► subconscious the sonnet lines are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► funny to me because that that awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► it's so weird it's that that is a faucet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► that's like an underlying philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► always when i'm trying to coach or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► I'm trying to what I was directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► people i always use that sort of theorem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► with them being like all right well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► have the text and we have very strict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► structures for things like commedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► dell'arte and theatre mom but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► beauty of structures like that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► freedom in which to play with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► for some reason wrinkle in time just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► yeah and I didn't even connect it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► you brought it up right now it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► just it's funny it's very very funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► strange and magical so before we get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► for further along here I wanted to at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► least give people who may not remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► or haven't read it and the other still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► listening uh had an idea of what of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► this what this book is about and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► fascinating one of the things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► it's kind of far out i mean it is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► former book with a rainbow centre on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► cover you would expect it but I as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► a kids book it's kind of a gentle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► yet also eventually really bizarre story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► it's about a girl make Murray who is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► has been mentioned here she's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/810">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► intelligent family and she's intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► but doesn't get along well with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► people in school and she has trouble in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► school not because she's not smart but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► because she's actually very smart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► kind of bored and kind of doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► along with people and she's got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► brother a very little brother who's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► of a genius a super genius and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► everybody thinks it's stupid because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► he's different and then she's got twin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► brothers who are maybe not as who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► bright and successful and socially adept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► brilliant as these other two are her dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/848">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► government and has gone off somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► and they haven't seen him in ages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/855">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► they they meet a through us you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/859">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► also i should say she whenever somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/864">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► punches come which is a nice touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► so she gets in trouble and she goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► the principal and the principal asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► her to conform and she basically says no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► I'm gonna do that and then what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► brother Charles Wallace says that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► been meeting this this this mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► woman and they go out into the to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► abandoned like haunted house basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► like stereotypical haunted house meet me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/891">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► actually popular but it turns out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► actually kind of faking you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► actually really bright and is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► faking it to get to be popular and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► discover that Charles Wallace has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► mysterious women who are actually aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► or or even more cosmic creatures than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► that and that their father has actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► used a wrinkle in time or a tesseract to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► travel across time and space to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► planets where he is now being held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/930">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► captive in the in a universal battle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► good versus evil and that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► downloads very quickly him at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► in the middle of this book and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► they're off on an adventure that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► them to i'm going to say four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► other planets eventually and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► meet up with they meet up with a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► pulsating brain monster on a planet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► and Charles Wallace's is possessed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► left behind and a rescue her dad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► then she has to go back and save her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► brother and that's basically my plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► synopsis of wrinkle in time did I'm it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► did I leave anything out i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► that it's not really about the plot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/966">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► actually when you try but when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► about this the kids book and it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► be going off with like a journey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/973">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► self-discovery for memory and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► they're like it's so intelligently paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► though because like you like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► were saying earlier it takes forever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► pick up speed since approximately first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► third of the book is laying down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► the foundation the sense of place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/986">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► they're clearly leave the outcast their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► their mother who is actually frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► managing to have it all because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► brilliant scientist who still cooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/999">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► dinner on the Bunsen burners and is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► single parent to for smart kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► holding it together and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► these routines and rituals and she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► this great job of flushing out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► world where they need that the dog's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► and that that little detail tells you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► much about the about the general tenor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► of the memory home where were clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► the ethos is keep up and she can't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► up take notes yeah that's it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► well kids because you know just like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► we should just split board in the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► book when they find a snake the neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► columbia which is the latin which witch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► is which the latin term for snake no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► it's a joke is not funny it and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► built up this rich idiosyncratic world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► to give you the liverwurst and cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► cheese sandwiches is comfort food which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► is a detail that is always baffled me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► because such a disgusting but what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► does is if you're a kid when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► you are a little kid you are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► intensely self-centered and intensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► local and so if you're a small if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► if you're an elementary school who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► reading this what she does here is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► basically if she introduces the world at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► a pace that that children can grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► using a frame of reference that children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► and then when she shifts gears and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► your hip hopping across the galaxy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► getting these big lessons about evil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► incorruptibility and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► like the self-discovery a little kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► not going to say that the self discovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► goes hand-in-hand with the dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► actually that that's a really uncanny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► parallel for what happens to children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and adolescents and adulthood is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► you kind of take along in your world in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► your world and then one day there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► big leap and things look different but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► it's still the same world and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► structured to mirror what happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► people through between the ages of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► 11 and 16 so so starting with the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► and you made a really good point there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► Lee said this this book is a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► setting up this family that is proudly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► apart and different and and how and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► they're they're very different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► people who live all it almost to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► kind of ridiculous extreme where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► what is his name Cal Cal Cal his you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► know his mother has like no teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► it's Harper right right so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► these are very different people from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► town that their that they're living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► common Kings yeah it and um and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► on one level because they're brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► and have you know and mom is cooking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► stew out on a Bunsen burner while she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► doing chemical experiments and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► like that but it has a cost because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► conformity is actually what is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► sought here and I i thought when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► reading it no one's reading at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► beginning I was like oh no wonder i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► this book this is but you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► because meg is having a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► fitting in and you know gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► frustrated and I just I was like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► totally identified with that but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► that that's one aspect of this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► this really interesting thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► is a very interesting brilliant family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► and they don't fit they don't end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► doesn't matter necessarily accept to Meg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► and presumably eventually Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► Wallace because they don't they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► unlike the twins who just kinda slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► along its kind of the twins peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► genius though is is just like Megas an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► incredible mathematical genius and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► probably the one most in touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► humanity's darker emotions especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► compared with Charles Wallace it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► really thinly veiled and walk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► christ-child Dennis and Sandy have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► managed to figure out how to pass for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► yes yeah and and they're they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► skilled at passing and I think I and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► I've always felt like they kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► short shrift in the first three books i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► haven't read the one in which they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► start as it were but I've always felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► they kind of get the short shrift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► because to grow up with the family that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► they had and then to make the deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► decision that yes we're going to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► we're going to manage to to straddle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► line between these two cultures that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► have to negotiate with at home and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► home and then they go into medicine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► law which are you know by virtue of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► respectability it's it's intriguing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► that they pulled off that balancing act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► yeah I get one this book that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► they're not particularly really are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► screen yeah many waters is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► book i read the most after wrinkle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► time in terms of that the quartet on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► that's actually a really fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► book it's a much more religious book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► some ways than the other three are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► rather overtly religious because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► deals with biblical times and it deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► with very very noticeable biblical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► so you you know the initial jump into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► the story can sometimes turn people away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► Christianity but their reactions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► they're sort of working through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► story of basically Noah and the flood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► gives them a really really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► character background that you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► any other three books so I I mean I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► really liked that book even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► know it gets kind of unfair unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► shrift and it's um it was published a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► lot later than the other three because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► it was published in between her second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► set of quartets that star spoiler alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► i usually make and Calvin's kid so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► haven't actually read any of those but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► but many waters is quite good so when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► was reading the here's what i did i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► the graphic novel and then I went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and read the book again and when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► reading the graphic novel i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► was it was it this weird and the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► is yeah it was uh I found that out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► one of the things that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► things that I thought was was did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► obviously as a kid I kind of missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► or didn't notice or didn't you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► didn't read on me both the there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► religious aspect of this that we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► talk about and there's also this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► you know this individualism message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► where I was thought oh is this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► it's going to turn out to be some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► of like coated and randiyan thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► didn't realize was an awful when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► kid and now i owe my god and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► but um but it is about there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► whole thing about individualism in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► in it and you see that the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► at the end and it's a strong thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► throughout but before we get there I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► want to talk about religion and get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► guys take on it because Lisa and ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► both mentioned it and David mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► that his mom was a theologian so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► particularly ritual religious person all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► the way to go to Sunday School and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► had a background in that when i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► kid reading this for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► what struck me about the religion in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► wrinkle in time is that it's mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► but it's not it's not that over its more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► i I'd almost say it's almost more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► the wallpaper of religion that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► just a thing that's part of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► and not you know I hate to say it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► these days you get this this real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► push-and-pull whether it's either real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it's either about science or it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► religion it's about heart or it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► religion but everything is pitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► against each other that literally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► can't have something if something's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► religion in it generally the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► today is that that's that's because its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► propaganda and in many cases that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► because it is propaganda and this struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► me as being something that like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► that great scene where they they ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► about this they say there's a struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► between you know darkness and light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► which is just as easily star wars as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► is the Bible but they say now who do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► think are the people who fought for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► light and one of the kids says Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► like yes and I said but also and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► scientists and i thought now see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► really interesting because it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► enlisting you in the cause of good be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► like Jesus see you know he's fighting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► the side it's like know it's him and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► Leonardo Leonardo DaVinci internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► Shakespeare and Einstein right 10 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► I thought that was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► there there's another Bible verse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► big needs to remember later on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► mean it's definitely there and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1493">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► rainbow people are kind of angels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► are referred to as such by cal at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► point but it's not like they're angels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► it's more like how do I describe them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► I can't really think of it like guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► angels they're kind of like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► it's not it just it managed to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► religion as it was part of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► without seeming like it was super coded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► propaganda least that's how I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► when I reread it kind of being wary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► about what I was going to find inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► yeah it's almost like a step forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► from CS lewis's narnia books in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► it's a it's a it's in a weird you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► will and that's an example where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► Narnia books are actually I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► parables than the his sci-fi books which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► are much more heavy-handed i think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► yeah well no I mean Narnia Narnia is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► very heavy-handed but in a wonderfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► lyrical sort of way where it's never you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► know it's never so overt that anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► under the age of 12 is going to catch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► successors are very much yes religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► religion is in this world religion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► part of this world religion influences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► what is going on my religion is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► end-all be-all and religion works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► concert with these other you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► science and with art and their-their can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► get theirs and almost makes an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► that there can be no religion without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► science and art and that they all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► all must work together or else the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► entire fabric of the universe falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► apart and you kind of get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► of that with it in terms of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► where we've taken away everything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► vast structure and in this structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► there's no real religion there's no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► art there's no real science it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► everybody you know under this grip not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► want to individual orders without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► without creativity its exact specifics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► on it right yeah the the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► Jason makes about you know Jesus as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► somebody who changed the universe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► the better but scientists do an artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► do as well I group is a Catholic in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► bible belt and I grew up in fact in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► neighborhood with a Southern Baptist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► mom's managed to make the case to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► southern baptist bible school during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► summer so I so my soul can be saved so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► hopefully some nice well it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► welcome to the Bible Belt working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► himself and so to 10 of again to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► the idea that there was more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► way to be a good person in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► to do good towards the world that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► idea that i needed to have expressed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► me and legitimate ways as a child and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► this book is a wonderful job of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► that I do wonder if it's more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► product of its time because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► written during the early 1960s where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► religion wasn't seen so much as an us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► it's much more gentle it whereas if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► take a look at some of our older works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► for example i'm also a fan of her meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► the Austen's books and those are far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► more overtly religious and far more far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► more adamantly christian and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► noticed that as writers get older they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► do tend to sink into whatever is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► to give them comfort and validation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► it seems like the angle kind of did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► with her work whereas I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► one of the second book she wrote and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► she's still figure she's still finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► her way as a voice and she synthesized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► most four major themes but this is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► more product if it's if it's time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► sixties which is there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► different ways to create miracles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► wonders Jesus crisis when we're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► scientists who can help us find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► truth about the University another way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► artists that can help us express that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► truth about the universe or another way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► philanthropist who can help us express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► kindness in the universe or another way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► and I wish that was an idea that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► yeah yeah because you get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► science fiction now and a lot of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► coming out in the last 10 to 15 years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► popular science fiction religions become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► the big bad bulky man in a lot of books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► religious discussion neuroscience is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► enemy exactly right and and night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► neither of those necessarily is a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► moderate path the the neither of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► is particularly constructive and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► know not to get on a night together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► totally bizarre chain tangent now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► episode about this soon but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► Babylon 5 one of the TV show from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► nineties that I really loved written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► an 80s Joe michael Straczynski has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► extraordinary nuanced takes on religion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and how it shapes people's lives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► ethics it's fantastic i believe won an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► award for the portrayal of religion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► television it was like we can portray a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► future where they're aliens and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► are in outer space and people guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► still have religions because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► going to happen because you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► aren't going to just disappear one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► despite what gene roddenberry thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► refreshing and I i think it's too bad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► knowing that that these books become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► more overtly religious over time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► I really appreciated the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► in this book it's part of the mix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► it's relevant and it's and it's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► of course you know these verses from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► Bible because people know those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and then it's also got the the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► the fact is we're talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► struggle between good and evil here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► universal struggle between good and evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and it's kind of interesting to frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► that you know bigger context of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► universe with the smaller context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► what people on earth know about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that struggle through their religion i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► just i love i love the fact that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► just puts it all out there in 11 big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► big mix instead of saying no no we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► talk about that we don't know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► don't mention Jesus we can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► him or information science we can't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► about it is that since both they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► infuriated was like when when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► little my mom would ask you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► religion do you think the memories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► and I I never had a good answer for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► because i mean if if they are any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► religion in particular their christian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► because there you go through talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► about the Bible they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► the quotes from the Bible and guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► angels and all that kind of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► she doesn't really specify she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► go beyond that and I kind of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► so that you know if you grew up catholic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► regroup Episcopalian regroup you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► whatever variety you could identify with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► them and maybe more so at in the period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► of you know when it was written but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► know you you could see yourself in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► situation a little bit maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► because yet garden I was viewed as sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► of garden-variety mid-twentieth century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► Protestantism right yeah exactly exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► and they were you know it's like sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► people know about that and maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► only go to church on easter sunday or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► maybe the they don't go to church very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► much but they send their kids to Sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► School which is what happened with me my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► parents go to church but I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Sunday school for a while I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► that but that was what that was what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► ok mother wouldn't let me go to Sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► school or Catholic school because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► was like that will destroy your faith I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► oh yeah oh oh no nothing yeah and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► tapping religion with a bunch of errands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► probable that was thinking that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► probably Unitarian that was my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► yeah sure whatever scientist also what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► love about this book is all the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► signifiers that she does drop later as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► you're going through school and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► finally doing camera handling the wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► for the first time in the name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► Fortinbras comes up boom the penny drops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► for you because you know that's why in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► the dark Orton browser or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► similar to god I can't even think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► half the culture half of the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► name-checks that go on that the dog's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► name is always stood out for me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► because you know who in the world names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► their dog for well some really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► I iconoclastic scientist types with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► their bohemian ways in their lab in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► back bedroom and they're they're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► garage or whatever it is and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► know is that is that almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► fantasy view of like the ultimate super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► optimistic outlook surprise and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► i'm kind of surprised people came out 62 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► because it creates Betty Ford an and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► also goes to show that Madeleine L'Engle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► had no exposure to actual working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► scientists because yeah well be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► first of all and i say this is somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► undergrad firing up a Bunsen burner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► everyday for different class for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► different labs um if you're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► type of science mrs. Morrow was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► the kind of equipment you need you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► just you know go down to your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► hardware store and and then oh and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► and jerry rig that together be her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► husband's equipment that he got from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► government but it's still a physicist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► she's a bio yeah it was no your eyes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► mitochondrial right it's real oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► with the mitochondria I do i do remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► that yes you know it's it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► this fantasy and i also wonder how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► it is a product of her time were so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► ok for mrs. murder have a new identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► that fulfills her but the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► things that she's still running the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► however idiosyncratically and she still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► cooks you're still making ironically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► enough even she's making dinner and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► three actually puts on a burner cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► book based on because when I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► college that was one of the first things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► i asked my team was do you guys ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► cook on Bunsen burners I grew up reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► this book where they always cooked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► that's yeah you know it is it is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► that her out there with her things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► because it is sort of like honey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► doing science out here like this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► what do you what kind of science you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► doing scientific kind involving burners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► what has science done either science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► try not to mix up my stew with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► science my liverwurst and cream cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► any other thoughts you guys have about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► their religious aspects of it i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► is intertwined with this whole thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► about individualism that we see early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► with a with a megan Charles Wallace sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► of being ostracized and trying to assert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► their you know be yourself and be proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► of who you are which has a you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► a big thing that I I loved in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► because that was definitely it something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that I felt in in my childhood and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► at the end when they go to Camazotz and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► they've got the this entire society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► that's basically been turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► hivemind a group mind with this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► called it which is it turns out just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► described in the book and depicted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► the graphic novel a big squishy brain on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► the table but it's representative of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► the group mind and it's a disembodied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► brain there it's yeah well right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► don't know what it is it's a red it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► red brain in with the right then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► there's that so that's the flip side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► it is the is the this is a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► everybody conforms and everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► exactly the same and it's individualism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► like i said i had that moment like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► gonna get really weird and I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► tell you about you know about communism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► or in the rugged individualism or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► anything like that it never gets that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► mean there is a pulsating bring on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► table and yet I wouldn't say it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► super weird just sort of base level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► weird and it fits in with those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► themes of individualism that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► aren't necessarily like in in soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► scientists will sit at her desk right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► it's not like that's what not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► they're trying to the subject Hassan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► oh yeah yes the poor kid who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► it's kind of rough do ya got a brutal i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► think the book as a whole pushes buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► on a lot of issues but it never goes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► know it pushes it about halfway and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► takes the handoff the thing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► button and put your hand on it and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► mhm and it back it puts a lot of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► questions and a lot of the thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► regarding it and regarding religion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► regarding how science flavors the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► into the readers hands or at least it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► feels like that to me if you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► she has extraordinary respect for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► readers intelligence that one hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► and when your child that's what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► is for for an author not to talk down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► you when one of the things i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► really interesting this time through was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► that you know again going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► religion a little bit is that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► place where everybody knows and believes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► the same thing and does the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► and acts the same way and that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► it's like wow that's really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► the pulsating brain is is it's so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► hopeful our son does this graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► have you all look at the graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► oh yeah i bought it and granted ok you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► know I i really liked it i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► enjoyed reading it having only vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► memories of the book too because I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► to play the game of like is this real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► it was really like this and then reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► a book and 10 yeah it's it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► amazingly faithful and it helps that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► original novel is like 200 pages long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► and the paperback that I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► that's what kind of like some spacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► and big type and so it turns to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► graphic novel that is so faithful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► some ways because it's you know it's 390 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► essentially all the dialogue that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► the book is in the graphic novel and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► even stuff like the pulsating brain on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► table that's actually what is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► book there is it is a big quivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► bring the Communist thank you Lisa brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► mhm yes yes but I i was really impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► i i i know the fear of a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► in taking something that's a beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► childhood book and doing an adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► like this is that you're gonna overwrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► your memories of your sort of mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► images and for whatever reason you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► remembered from reading the book i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► just nodding and going yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► yeah our style is so unique in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► that it it let's get it on ments your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► your viewing experience I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► earlier in the podcast but reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► through the graphic novel the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► she illustrates and the way that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► carries you through the story is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► a little bit dreamlike like all of her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► technically r know the way that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► illustrated this book is very freeform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and very flowing and in a certain way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► feels very dreamlike and it feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► memories that I have of the book and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► doesn't overwrite this the way I picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► characters in the way that i picture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► know be supreme beings and and aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► and planets but it's a wonderful it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► almost like a viewing portal into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► here is this universe of a wrinkle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► time here is how this person sees a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► wrinkle in time and like the book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► can find places where you go oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► like this is totally what I saw or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► is different than what I saw but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► not wrong it's you know it's traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► different timelines i have never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► such a painfully accurate depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► memories is is drawn through this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► book every line in every frame that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► she's in you can just feel the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► jangling of her nerves and the ruling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► her emotions and the confusion and fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► and uncertainty and the whole book to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► has that same feel to it which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► is perfect for the underlying message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and that the heroines journey as it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► you know it's funny the in reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► book especially when your kid reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► the book you're not really sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2458">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► the ages and and it for me it was harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► to picture them and and reading in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► graphic novel what one thing I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► liked about this not only is it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► clear sort of like the age differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► you said she's that you know she is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► yeah but what I love about it is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► well it's not just description it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► interaction with her mother where her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► mother they say oh you know her mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► is beautiful and I and you know where as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► Megan's plain awful and her mom says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► something like no no that I would i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► like you did when I was your age and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► you should you know just just wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► adolescence is tough and all your all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► your parts of your body and your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► are growing at different rates and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► all out of sync but it will all work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► and one of the nice things about the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► that hope larson draws Meg in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► is that at times she looks incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► awkward and adolescent yes and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► other times you're like oh yeah i can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► can see she's gonna she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► beautiful like her mother growing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► she's just not you know it's just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► of here and there and shifting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► yeah well this is really nice passage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► the book itself where they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► you know Meg had tried to blow off some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► steam at recess by roughhousing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► girls in her greater like we don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► that anymore because we are no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► children and then a few paragraphs later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► it mentions that when her hair was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► in the braids that she had worn through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► grammar school it was fine but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► she had cut it to fit in with the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► of high school kids she could never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► her hair right and struck out all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► the place and it was just such a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► metaphor for she was good at being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► child because she didn't carry them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► about how different she was but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► terrible being an adolescent because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► nothing fits and the art is exquisite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► and what the way all of the pickles with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► me and maker drawn you just feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► conscious of somebody who goes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► place to place not feeling like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► quite fits she quits in and how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► going to deal with that I don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► I didn't find the book particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► beautiful Armour first read-through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► because it was making me feel antsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► uncomfortable it wasn't until I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► out that the book was doing a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► good job of channeling of a creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► visual representation of adolescents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► once I figure out that's why and I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► edge i could sink into a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► and step back from a bit and and begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► to appreciate the ways in which i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► Larson's got beautiful command over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► way she could she yeah she draws people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► the the graceful lines of their hands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► the way that they hold themselves in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► relation to other people but it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► a couple tries to to get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► that's what one of her thankless task is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► that she also has to render the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► aliens the teachers and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► imagination is pitted against reality as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► you can you know it turns out that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► know hope larson is going after going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► off of the very specific descriptions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► the book but you know as a reader you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► can discard and what whatever you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► want to take and imagine whoever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► like and she needs to be a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► faithful and I thought you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► there are moments like with the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► I've always sort of a piece more as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► collection of lame smells weird to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► are depicted physically but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► accurate that it's these weird kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► creatures with like indentations in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► their heads but not actual it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► interesting and weird but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► faithful it turns out the one the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► that really gets me is again we're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► to our our Center rainbow angel people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► and that one is really bizarre but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► also completely accurate that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► that's the way it's described it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► kind of funny that that is weirder in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► the graphic novel fit in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► because you just have to accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► yes but it is going to be a big centaur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► rainbow person and but it's beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► it's just weird and it just struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► that that you know what what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► just discount when you're as a reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► you're like me i don't like that i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► going to even think about that i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► cast somebody else in that part and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► graphic novel hope Larson's doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► casting and we have to follow and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► did a great job but it you know she you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► know she she has to make those creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► decisions we get basically taking metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► oh yeah absolutely one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► loved was you know I i I'd come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► looking at how would I adapt it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► yeah and you know it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► beginning she she doesn't do exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► same opening all the details are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► but she entered cuts them and weaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► and does it very economically it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► very much a show don't tell kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► thing and so in just a few panels we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► have almost that entire first chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and it's all there and it's a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► different order and and going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► the whole graphic novel then it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► great i was just fascinated by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► choices she was making in what to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► when and in which order and and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► yeah okay taken with it because i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► it's it's been adapted into a play and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► an opera and a miniseries that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► turned into a bad movie because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► apparently a bad miniseries and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► Madeleine L'Engle was interviewed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► they stay asked her did it meet your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► expectations and she said yes I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► it to be bad and it was no disney i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► i've never watched any of the adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► and don't think I don't think I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► there's only one good wrinkle in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► adaptation it is 90 seconds long and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► was made I think last year the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► I'm as part of the 92nd newbury video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► contest and it is it's basically a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► of child just a bunch of kids who seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► to be part of the same family acting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► wrinkle in time and very sweet fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► and it's beautiful 3 l's passed I passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► down all right kids let's go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► Lincoln yeah I I admit David that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► i was reading the book after having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► the graphic novel i went back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► book and I was thinking how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► make this into a into a TV series camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► or a TV movie or a movie and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► know i think it could it could be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► and done well but i wouldn't lay odds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► it right about i think it could I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► it clearly doesn't animated one travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► well yeah I mean you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► absolutely do that but i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► about lifestyle you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► unreasonable that the-the-the there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► some the aliens are a little bit weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► but these days you can you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► do anything but so much of it is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► about the kids and when they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► Camazotz it's just a town you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► was not that is something about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► that's a sci-fi reader that's convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► everybody speaks everybody understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► everybody else you know the the go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► this far-off planet of Camazotz and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► it's just a town on a planet like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► know presumably they have onions kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► with bouncing a ball i mean they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► there they're people right there not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► aliens or anything or just kind of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► people so you know it's it's it's outer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► space achill when it needs to be and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► was the Southern California suburb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► it's just a parable women needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► you know that which is fine i don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► it's it's actually kind of fun i was i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► actually was thinking about Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► for a little bit while I was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► this because it struck me as being very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► similar in the sense to creations from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► the early sixties in the sense that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► the the details with scientific details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► of it weren't really the point and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► they didn't matter right and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► really about the the gestalt of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► know it's just sort of like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► story make a go of it it doesn't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► don't stop to ask me about why this town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► has been this planet have humans on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► when the other places have aliens just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► it's need no it's not the point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► story and I felt like that with this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► which I like I know it drives some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► particular kinds of sci-fi fans crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► because they really want it to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► completely scientifically explainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► and accurate and all that but it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► know it's it's not it's not meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► and I was fine with it but I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► moment of like sure there are rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► centaurs ok let's sure there's the smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► they hit the furry smell people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► alright that's cool right now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► need to think about how they evolved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► that I just it's fine and actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► really love that we didn't mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► but a beast and her people they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► see so make has to try to explain what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► light is to them which is fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► like oh well there's the warm part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► the day and there's the cold part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► day but I don't know what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► about light and she had that realization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► like wow they I thought they were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► sad because they can't see anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► they've totally got like five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► completely clueless to them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► thought that was a really nice bit of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► thinking outside of of of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► your own perspective that for a kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► book is really great again about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► yeah and it comes towards the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► of the book worm eggs already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► different people have different points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► of view that are equally valid and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► understand she's making them so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► an outsider's the people who insist on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► making her an outsider right if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► adapting this i think i might take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► the happy medium though I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► that's a Daffy interlude you know I me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► give you a little bit of backstory oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► you were a star you give up your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► 100 earth is awful and and but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► you know Calvin's mom abuses and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► know they're there but it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► weird it's weird let's go to happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► medium she's got a crystal ball she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► gonna tell us about our past and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► future she passes out and then oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► really tired from watching you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► showing these things to go well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► let's go Calvin O'Keefe for a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► they really go over the course of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► first three books because again the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► established that his home life is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► great his father drinks way too much hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► it beats the kids his mother beats the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► kids he somehow manages to emerge from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► despite these horrific details that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► out in subsequent books where where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► find out that basically his mother had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► to marry the first man who came along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► because her stepfather was um was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► getting ready to to sexually assault her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► and and yet albums that is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► well adjusted incredibly even-tempered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► genius guy who handles and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► handles and really girlfriend wife does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► that I I've always had really mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► feelings because it seems i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► if this isn't meant to be empowering 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► fell to children who are growing up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► similarly similarly dire situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► saying you know relax your special you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► can get through this or if this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► incredibly dismissive of how hard it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► to grow up under those circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► mmm and as i get older i find it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► and more problematic huh i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► mean knowing the people that I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► come from similar households i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► in that kind of a household you do build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► up a certain i'd only want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► tolerance a certain you you have to grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► up very quickly and you have to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► much the the person in charge and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► person who has their stuff together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► because no one else does and I i see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► lot of that in Calvin but yeah I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► think you're absolutely right in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► of that's that is only one picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► that kind of scenario in but in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► Calvin's role is I mean it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► interesting because they just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► run into him but I i feel like i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► he's there to be part of the gang and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► be supportive and to be a love interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► you know it promise of a love interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► for Meg but i think is number one role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► is to be like sort of like the twins but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► but in that he's socially capable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► not like the twins and that we see with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► him on and and they don't get to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► this in this book that that he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► does your inform or and that him being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► popular is actually kind of a prison for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► him and I feel like that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► really hit the own not the only the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► by far the most important thing that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► does in this book is just to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► like a connection for Meg of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► the end just because he's popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► doesn't mean he's happy and doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► that you know he is secretly frankel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah just another another color in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► the in the in the palette of freakiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► well he's a grounding force in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► and then make becomes his grounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► force in terms of where they're holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► learning have their tests are acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► here when it you know going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► the thought of how much set up there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► it's also you know you sort of build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► characters and with their lives so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► when they're ripped out of it and thrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► across the universe and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► that much more dramatic because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► we've gotten used to their family life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► that's why i love the first half of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► book it and i wouldn't complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► the fact that it the the plot is crammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► like four chapters at the end in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► ways I mean in many ways it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► it's like really they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► they're going to the planet now and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► last couple chapters like wow they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► going to result how are they going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► resolve this may do mr. Murray finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► gets ripped free and her was reunited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► there's like three pages in their back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► on their hillside behind the house y'all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► well that's kinda gruff yeah but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► mind it because that the the first half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► is so great and memorable and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► important it all pays off later but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► very important to to get that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► really enjoyable too i mean i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► enjoyed the length of time spent on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► midnight snack during the hurricane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► yeah is ridiculous and it's great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► it's incredible detail Charles Wallace's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► down their makers downstairs he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► waiting for her she figured he'd come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► upstairs but he's like no I knew you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► he's got the liverwurst and cream cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► sandwiches and the mom comes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► he's ready for her and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► incredible detail they're totally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► necessary accepted paints that wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► picture of their relationships and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► there you know how they all interrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► to each other in this family and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► that's for me that stuff was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► the most memorable 20 30 40 years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► was that stuff and not not the pulsating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► brain on a table which I didn't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► remembered that kid but I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► publish those cameras ads for a book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► book contest and so I've always wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► with that big being protective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► Charles Wallace is something that I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► stuck with me all that time she was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► big sister who's going to get in fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► with other kids who said mean things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► about her little brother that bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► it made sense to me because I I being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► more than a few kids who picked on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► brother because i was his older sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► and and it was but it was my job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► Kellerman losses but I I went back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► realized there's like a 10-year age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► difference into them and I thought what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► the hell kind of time is she living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► four-year-olds 222222 a teenager's face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► I mean you know what what what on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► i hear that the same kind of town where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► her father supposedly has disappeared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► I mean it's a small town that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► family is the talk right you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► they're not like them they're not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► probably the rest of them probably been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► there and their parents were there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► all that I grew up in a town like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► right and it will end was not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► I so I totally I totally get that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► right it may be a little stretch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► extreme although even then that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► thing is we're going to know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► got that little one he's not right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► the head he's got the very using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► books that clever people often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► subnormal children and I and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► this is how you can tell the book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► written during the sixties is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► normal is used as a perfectly acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► oh yeah well in reality of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► wouldn't use something that polite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► school on the business well now i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► should point out also just because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► like this that Sawyer is reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► wrinkle in time in a couple episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► lost which also feels and features time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► travel and discussion of of religion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► other similar topics religion and faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► and i thought i should mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► because of course the books that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► characters on lost read are meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► producers and and then of course there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► time traveling at two so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► believe there is a I'm an interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► somewhere that said that wrinkle in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► was actually a weirdly big influence on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► lost in some ways yeah you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► yep yep I think so also i'm looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► google image search for a wrinkle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► time and I found like 80 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► covers because every edition of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► somebody's like hey let's Commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► illustration and some illustrator goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► flying horse angel people beside me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and then they do this dreamed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► there are so many so many here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► including mine where they where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► stabbed in the back with a rainbow not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► the best piece of art I do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► they don't bother to show the people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► they show more the supernatural things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► because i think it does let children and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► adults my copies got kids riding on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► oh SI mi doesn't um although my copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► a swiftly tilting planet features the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► teenage Charles Wallace who look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► mighty seventies and a pair of Flair's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► if you're almost back of feathered hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► thing yeah and he's riding like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► reading gaudy or the unicorn and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► the most glorious and Carter you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► picture i have ever seen in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3539">TS</a>]
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00:59:29 ◼ ► end and kind of a black hole it's all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3569">TS</a>]
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00:59:46 ◼ ► reacting where Meg looks a little um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► weary and Calvin looks openly stunned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3588">TS</a>]
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01:00:56 ◼ ► our perspective that I don't think I oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3656">TS</a>]
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01:01:05 ◼ ► a rainbow know he's been flying by rebo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► you can hold on hook from that window in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3668">TS</a>]
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01:01:16 ◼ ► well it's actually a stained-glass for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3676">TS</a>]
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01:01:27 ◼ ► time but what topics haven't we covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► that you would like to discuss before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3689">TS</a>]
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01:01:32 ◼ ► tonight I want to bring an idea book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3692">TS</a>]
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01:01:44 ◼ ► had said point blank wrinkle in time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3704">TS</a>]
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01:01:53 ◼ ► girl also very similar to Meg in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► late seventies and it also involves time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► travel and I want standing room but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3720">TS</a>]
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01:02:04 ◼ ► time throughout the book and and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3724">TS</a>]
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01:02:13 ◼ ► book to read in companion ship to at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3733">TS</a>]
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01:02:27 ◼ ► well I'm i'll check it out before my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► kids try reading it and I couldn't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3749">TS</a>]
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01:02:36 ◼ ► does not read books where girls are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3756">TS</a>]
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01:02:41 ◼ ► when damn that's good but yes that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► like a doctor who kind of things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► it's like a doctor who puzzle so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► still working on him with wrinkle you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3770">TS</a>]
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01:03:08 ◼ ► episode brought to you by the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3788">TS</a>]
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01:03:15 ◼ ► wife's copy bad copy which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3795">TS</a>]
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01:03:29 ◼ ► these misty water-colored memories of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► the way I was and I was really afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3812">TS</a>]
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01:03:44 ◼ ► hindsight that that as an adult you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3824">TS</a>]
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01:03:48 ◼ ► i gotta say I i really liked it and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► i thought it i thought well my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► should read this this is this is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► this is actually it's sci-fi but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► gentle and it's got these interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► other aspects to it and it's and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3840">TS</a>]
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01:04:08 ◼ ► nostalgia for it to just be a nostalgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► trip I really was taking a chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► invalidating my fond memories of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► it didn't say i was very happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3857">TS</a>]
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01:04:25 ◼ ► visit back to this this material that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3865">TS</a>]
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01:04:35 ◼ ► that from you yet know and and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► daughter's bookcase before I put her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► down to bed tonight and I think honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► bookcase along with the graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and butter discovered on her own as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3887">TS</a>]
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01:04:55 ◼ ► don't want to have a complicated reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3895">TS</a>]
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01:05:33 ◼ ► bookcase waiting for her and I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3933">TS</a>]
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01:05:48 ◼ ► girlfriends who are reading little house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3948">TS</a>]
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01:06:05 ◼ ► this book is all it is is is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa2NxrA/3965">TS</a>]
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