The Incomparable

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00:00:07 ◼   ► the incomparable number 311 july 2016 [TS]

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00:00:17 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► uncomfortable i am your host Jason snail [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► and we're gonna do another flash cast [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► that's two in a row i tell people that [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► we don't talk about movies that are [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► currently in theaters because it's very [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► hard to get a panel together to talk [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► about movies that are currently in [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► theaters and yet we've done it two weeks [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► in a row so don't get used to it is what [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► I'm saying this may not ever happen [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► again but we are going to talk about [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► Star Trek beyond directed by Justin Lin [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► with a script by Doug young and and [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► simon pegg your buddy [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► Scotty and joining me to talk about Star [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► Trek beyond the latest the the [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► what-is-it what-is-it I lost lost [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► consciousness district 13 essentially if [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► you count that high school bad omen blue [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► joining me to talk about it [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► David lower high a we've got no ship no [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► crew how are we going to get out of this [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► we have a small crew a very ragtag group [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► of rebels down on a planet where the [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► erica and sign [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► hi I'm a ragtag rebel who yeah barely [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► there we go [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► and Scott McNulty of course is here [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► because I wouldn't talk about Star Trek [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► without Scott Scott please state the [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► nature of the medical emergency [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► still not wearing pants oh thank you [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► what what okay so started beyond it was [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► it's here it's a it's interesting i've [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► seen a lot of people that everybody was [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► really negative after the trailer came [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► out like they're like oh well Justin Lin [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► he's a fast and furious director they're [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► just going to give us an action movie [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► I don't know how long it's going to take [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► if ever for people to twig to the fact [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► that if you make a large budget sci fi [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► movie that drops in the summertime it's [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► probably going to be a tentpole action [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► movie even if it's called Star Trek [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► because that's sort of the business that [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► they're in and and so you know they used [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► in action director here I i think i [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► think this is a pretty ambitious movie I [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► think there's a lot of action and I [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► think they tried to do some stuff that [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► was true star trek Lissa I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► gonna reverse everything that's going to [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► be kind of topsy-turvy I wanted to ask [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► everybody just upfront what were you [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► what you know walking so walking out of [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► the theater your first thoughts uh how [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► do you feel this one rates in terms of [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► the JJ Abrams Star Trek trilogy because [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► JJ Abrams still producer on this even [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► though he didn't direct it [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► and maybe in terms of Star Trek movies [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► as a whole [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► David what about you I loved it I i [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► walked out of the theater ready to see [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► it again i know they announced the [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► fourth one and I I want them to just let [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► Simon Pegg do that one too just let them [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► write it so where do you think your [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► rates uh well i think it's it's for me [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► it's the best of the JJ movies and and [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► you know i think i have to see it again [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► just to let it sink in but it's it's in [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► the top third of all the trek movies for [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► me I think kristen i enjoyed it that [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► much Erica what about you [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► interesting that you ask for the walking [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► out of the theater feeling because [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► because I was actually feeling pretty [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► good by the time I walked out of the [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► theater but it took at least two three [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► quarters of the movie to get me they're [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► so so yeah it in the end I I i like the [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► end of it but I think when it comes down [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► to the walking out of the theater [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► feeling I don't think anything is going [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► to compare with the elation of the 2009 [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► movie which I saw with some of my [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► deepest like geekiest Star Trek fan [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► friends and they had been very worried [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► about it and really enjoyed it so coming [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► out of that was just like kind of a [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► feeling of of great elation and this was [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► this was fine it wasn't great elation [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► and i am one of those people that [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► actually enjoyed star trek beyond quite [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► a bit for not starting yet I mean I'm [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► into darkness quite a bit so I mean if I [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► am forced to rate them this is actually [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► at the bottom of my list currently and [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► Scott worried about you [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► well when I left the movie theater i was [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► happy i enjoyed the the movie i also get [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► a free movie pass for another movie so [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► that helps i think but even if I didn't [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► get that I would have been happy because [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► I enjoyed it i thought was fun and [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► really isn't the whole point of going to [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► a movie is to have a little fun unless [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► you're going to like some swedish movie [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► or something [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► nobody has fun sweetie always right take [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► that Sweden yeah the seventh seal is a [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► blast you kidding me in imax and so is [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► where i rank them in john scalzi posted [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► something that I thought was interesting [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► he said he thought it was the best of [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► the third [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► Star Trek movies question you know [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► you're here [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► comparing it to insurrection and star [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► trek 3 the search for spock so i think [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► that is true it is the best time yeah [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► the third entrance in structuring [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► franchises go with that I thought it was [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► my second favorite of the JJ Abrams [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► movies star trek 2009 i think still [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► beats it because just like what Eric was [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► saying it was so new and exciting to [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► have a star trek movie again that wasn't [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► kind of petering out because the last [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► couple of next-generation movies were [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► not very good so the star trek 2009 had [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► low expectations but it blew me away [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► into darkness was fine i liked a lot but [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► I didn't have the guy i watch 2009 again [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► over the weekend to prepare for this [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► podcast i was gonna watch into darkness [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► and I just didn't get around to it but i [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► don't like it i like Robocop so thumbs [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► up to that Admiral robocop that's right [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► my I'm kind of in the same camp as Erica [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► here I actually really like star trek [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► into darkness and I wallet while I think [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► it is telling that i have not really [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► watch star trek into darkness as many [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► times as I have already watched Star [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► Trek 2009 and so as a result i would [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► certainly rate you that the first of the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► the JJ Abrams movies over it i don't [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► think i would rate star trek beyond over [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► it and I actually it's funny because my [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► expectations have been lowered somewhat [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► by that trailer and then they had been [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► raised by some of the good word of mouth [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that came out as the movie was was was [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► arriving and when I went to see it what [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► I found [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► I thought was something that was has a [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► lot of good stuff in it and I want to [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► see it again because I suspect that [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► perhaps it just hit me wrong and i wanna [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► i want to give it its due as a Star Trek [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► fan but at the same time I saw a lot of [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► laws in it that made me think like okay [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► what are you doing right now and that's [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► not a great that's not a great position [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► to be and I think I felt like and we can [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► get into this but I feel like the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► director [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► was really ambitious and his talent [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► didn't really allow him to fulfill all [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► of his ambitions I like I felt like his [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► his reach exceeds 20 his grasp Thank You [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► mr. writer man punching above his weight [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► yeah i mean i love that he i loved the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► ambition of some of the visuals in this [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► but i don't think they were executed [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► very well yes what was that note I I [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► like I want Simon figure-eight Nick I [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► didn't say anything about who should [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► direct oh but I thought it was a is [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► competent yeah and I thought it was a [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► very different feel to the movies right [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► so I know there's a lot of people on [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► Twitter that follow that are like oh [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► it's not real star trek whatever real [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► star trek is this argument i don't buy [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the sets are cardboard come on you can I [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► mean you totally everyone is entitled to [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► their opinion but kind of judging what [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► real star trek is and what it isn't i [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► think is completely bogus right and [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► they're people like well it's not [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► cerebral so it can't be star trek and I [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► think really have you watched a lot of [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► Star Trek because there are some [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► cerebral episodes of Star Trek but by [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► and large there are a lot of that arms [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► but actually the century more common [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► really exactly thats but i thought this [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► was so JJ Abrams has a very particular [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► kind of style and obviously the first [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► two movies had that style so this was [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► kind of a refreshing new take on it a [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► very frenetic which i think almost [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► worked in some scenes but didn't quite I [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► had trouble and Jason you and I were [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► talking about this in slack i had [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► trouble sometimes knowing what I was [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► supposed to be looking at and what was [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► going on [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► you just never a great thing in a movie [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► I think unless they're trying to confuse [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► you which I don't think they were trying [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► to do here but if they were mission [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► accomplished [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► ok I hadn't thought about the not [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► knowing what I was supposed to look at [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► thing but you're right now that you say [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► that I think that was one of my problems [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► my other problem was the camera movement [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► and my I appreciate it when a director [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► tries to go for camera movement because [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► i think it can be really really cool but [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► I felt like well you know how in classic [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► classic Star Trek you know that the [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► ships would only ever meet each other in [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► two dimensions and it was you know you [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► basically get one kind of [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► goal of the ships and stuff I felt like [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► like this was trying to make up for [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► several decades of traditional up and [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► all in one hour and a half minutes that [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► was just it honestly made me physically [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► ill and that has not happened to me [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► since I think the third jason bourne [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► movie those are these are the only two [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► movies that have ever made me feel sick [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► in the theater good i saw it in imax 3d [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► so there was a lot to watch what you're [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► gonna say there's a lot of vomiting [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► going I didn't see anybody but I think I [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► think I I don't want to say i was [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► reading somebody's review of middling [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► review of ghostbusters where they said [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► that a that they thought that puffy just [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► couldn't direct action and I remember [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► thinking after i saw Star Trek beyond [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► like I don't know I felt like at least [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► in ghostbusters there was a sense of [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► geography and I think we just landed i [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► don't want to say you can't direct [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► action because he can direct action i [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► think though there's certain kinds of [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► action that he's very good at directing [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► and when we see Captain Kirk riding [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► around on his little motorcycle and [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► stuff like that i think that the [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► geography makes sense when people are [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► fighting each other hand to hand I think [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► the geography makes sense but once you [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► get into those scenes where you are in [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► space or your enemy of the Yorktown the [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Starbase where there which I are again I [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► think the visuals of that space station [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► are stunning the idea that because [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► gravity is artificial you can have [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► different cityscape sort of pointing at [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► each other and perpendicular directions [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► and stuff I think that's great but I [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► think in those scenes he couldn't really [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► get across the geography he was trying [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► to convey and it ended up confusing in a [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► way that even something that was trying [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► to mess with your mind like Inception [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► didn't it didn't confuse me in the way I [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► think Christopher Nolan did a much [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► better job of keeping his filmic [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► geography intact and I I just don't [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► think that Justin Lin managed it right i [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► mean even even the fight scenes the [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► hand-to-hand fight scenes for me they [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► didn't land because the camera is [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► continuously moving and zooming and [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► cutting and twitching and shaking and [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► jumping and swooping and you don't know [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► what's happened until the fight is done [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► it looked like they were choreographed [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► very well I mean I fight choreography is [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► something to pay attention to but the [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► camera work was insane [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► same for those and and and especially [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► the swooping shaking a camera sequence [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► of camera in the Yorktown sequence it [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► didn't make me physically ill only only [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► rainbow road and mario kart can do that [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► oh god yes it is it was it was too much [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► because you couldn't focus on what was [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► going on you couldn't i'm even even when [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► the cameras doing the shaking chittering [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► thing like a look-see we're pretending [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► its cinema very day it's not it doesn't [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► have to shake you don't need that [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► let the ship and the people shake keep [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► the camera still it's okay you know it's [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► not a car it's not the fast and furious [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► so yeah I i did not like any of his [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► action direction for the most part I i [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► like the concept i like scenes i like [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► the the design of things [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► yeah but I did not think that as soon as [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► it went into the the full-tilt action [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► mode i did not think it was very very [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► effective [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► I'm and maybe it's because he's used to [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► you know fast furious is fast and [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► furious but their cars right it's two [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► bedrooms you don't really see a lot of [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► floating cars flying writers there's [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► gravity [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► exactly and I think he just was trying [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► to do a whole lot with this he had a [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► third dimension was like we've got to [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► use the hell out of this third manage [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► ambition right I appreciate being bitchy [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► absolutely absolutely didn't come off [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► no but I did like the Yorktown a lot [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► thumbs up I guess the design it's so [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► beautiful I I like those moments I i saw [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► some people online complaining about the [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► fact that that a starship emerges [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► through water again and it's like me but [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► I thought that it was so it was like so [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► so perfect that it got to that point [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► because we we had to let up to that [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► point I i love the idea that not only [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► are all those spaces perpendicular to [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► each other because it's all artificial [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► gravity anyway so it kind of doesn't [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► matter but that you've also got little [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► tubes that star ships come into and you [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► can see them going by i'm not sure how [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► practical that is and i also have some [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► questions about their defense which [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► appeared apparently as everybody sit [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► inside and greg grunberg will look at [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► the computer and tell you something's [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► happening just just feel safer already [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► if you've got millions and millions of [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► people living in this in this should [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► there be like Federation starships all [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► around and shouldn't have liked more [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► guns and things on the outside to [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► protect them and apparently not [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► apparently they don't but Greg Grunberg [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► he's paying attention so there should be [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► shields beyond the glass dome right he [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► would think right but I expense I mean [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► it's pretty it's but it's but it is such [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► a super I i love the production design [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► on this really i think i think this [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► ship's look good i think the the [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► Yorktown looks good i love a lot of the [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► planet stuff i like i like the Franklin [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► sets i think those are a lot of fun [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► oh by the way who would have thought [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► that there would never be like if you're [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► a fan of Star Trek Enterprise this is as [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► close as you're ever going to get to an [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► enterprise movie so I hope you are doing [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► it right so good in people who have idea [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► the Yorktown appeared early enough in [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► the film and I hadn't been completely [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► sort of turned off by the way happy [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► camper with moving and I was just I mean [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► that first sequence there i was kind of [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► ja a gape just in awe [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► it was it was amazing i had a thought [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► like if the incomparable ever does a [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► space station draft that may be near the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► top of my list because i want to go to [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► it's beautiful it's just a beautiful [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► thing I i think one of the things that [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► film can do is make your drop like that [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► and have that moment of like I I can't [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► believe what I'm seeing now and I think [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► that's pretty rare and I felt that same [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► way which is like wow this is like a [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► real fascinating visual from a star trek [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► movie which honestly doesn't happen as [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► much I like Star Trek movies that you [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► know jaw-dropping visuals is not a thing [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that they tend to do and i was very [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► impressed with that when i went with my [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► eleven-year-old and every time the [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► Yorktown came on-screen he would lean [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► over and say I want to go there [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► where is that American we can we go that [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► great a film that is that I think most [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► of it by existence [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► yeah just go to devise just like that [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► pic just hit yourself in the head with a [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► brick when you buy [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► I'm gonna see anything on the Yorktown [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► and I'll i like what it kind of says [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► about the the this moment of the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► Federation where they could build [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► something like this and they're just so [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► confident in their technology because [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► something crazy and you can't build [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► something like this if you're not super [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► confident that it will stay together [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► right because they're their buildings [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► all over the place [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► spaceships are flying through its it [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense but if you did [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► you know the the parallel to the culture [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► books is striking into people who have [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► read the culture books and see this [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► movie and so I just thought you know [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► this is portraying a federation that is [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► very confident in its technology and [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► then we see obviously later [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► technology is a theater price goes up [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► basically spoiler i think there are [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► elements of lots of other Star Trek [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► movies in this movie and interesting [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► ways but one of the things that struck [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► me was the story that is really in Star [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► Trek the motion picture and also [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► instruct her to which is the idea that [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► you know Captain Kirk gives up his [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► command and he becomes an admiral and [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► then he regrets it because he wants to [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► go and be a captain that's his best [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► thing that he can do and in this movie [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► what we get is we get chris pine's [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► captain kirk and they've been out there [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► for 43 years so I which I thought was [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► kind of clever because that's how long [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► we saw the original Star Trek's [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► five-year mission was the first three [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► years right now I got canceled and he's [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► kind of burning out like he's he's just [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► they've been doing this he says [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► everything is episodic which made me [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► laugh because yeah that would happen [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► you're on a TV show do not know and um & [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► ripped by shirt again and he's high know [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► right it and he's burned he's burned out [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► and he goes back and talk to her egg [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► dash luat at Yorktown and she's like [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► what we got your application to you know [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► be able to be an admiral what so what [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► did what people think I've had about [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► that storyline and then in parallel [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► there's a core Spock dealing with his [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► mortality where we we get this stuff [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► about about learning Moyes Spock uh [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► obviously a hat tip to learn Nimoy that [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► we hear that ambassador Spock has died [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► and so Zachary Quintos Spock is dealing [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► with that too [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► so what do you think about those those [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► themes because that's sort of the the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► character beats we get right at the [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► front of the movie Chris Pine fell [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► the Kirk easiest i think of all of the [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► above all the movies up to this point so [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► I mean he I feel like he's sort of [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► settled in the role and I mean that if [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► you like that the friendship between all [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► of these characters is earned at this [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► point because they've got three years [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► under their belts as opposed to being [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► all squished together and you know us [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► supposed to think that yes so this makes [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► perfect sense after they've just met so [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► on that level it worked but I just I [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► don't know it felt very sort of dour and [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► and kind of glum and I did maybe it was [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► because the camera was making me sick [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► but I kind of didn't care until we [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► started pairing characters off and that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► was when I started being interested in [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► the interplay between the characters [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► again probably because they're their [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► friendship is earned by now but when it [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► was just you know I don't really care [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► about about Captain Kirk's man next [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► sorry just don't write that that sort of [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► lived-in feeling for all the characters [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► is part of why I like this why i think i [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► like the best of the three just because [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► they have earned it [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► they have a comfort level with each [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► other that they didn't have even into [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► darkness i would i would say and so yeah [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► it I mean it was it was a little tower [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► in the beginning that's that's a great [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► word for it but I think it's meant to be [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► i mean it is that these are sort of like [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► these momentous life changes they're [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► thinking about and the end Kirk and [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► Spock haven't told each other what [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► they're thinking about doing yet but yet [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► is it is a little slow [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► I think the scene with mccoy in the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► beginning where they're having a drink [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► is is a little bit to try and lighten [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► the mood a little maybe except there [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► except it's really dark and they're [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► drinking while the guys in death and you [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► know but other than that it's pretty a [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► bright lights and and i will i will say [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► that the eleven-year-old leading zeros [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► why is dr. McCoy searching Chekhov's [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► locker that's not very nice [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► yeah there's like four sentences that's [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► true [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► fair enough you you'd think a good old [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► Southern doctor would be able to get [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► alcohol without relying on the Russian I [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► think that scene pays off some things [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► with not only doesn't have a rest [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► instead the first two original Star Trek [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► movies but it pays off [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► what we've seen of Kirk's origin in the [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► original surgery 2009 and I like the [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► residents of that it's it it's his [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► birthday and starter to Captain Kirk is [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► going through a birthday and regretting [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► that being a captain anymore and I I [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► mean maybe no Simon Pegg and presumably [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► John although i don't know as much about [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► they know what they're paying off here [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► from like old star trek movies and new [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► star trek movies and I liked it [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► although even then it goes on too long [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► and it's and it's you on the nose [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► especially that scene where he's like I [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► know your father bit the dust on your [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► birthday was like yeah we saw that we do [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► decide we know we got it got it [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► yeah got it Scott what about you what do [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► you think about the about the captain [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► kirk retirement you Admiral stuff and [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► the spock stuff so the problem here that [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► we talked about this every time we talk [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► about the new star trek was right is [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► that these this crew doesn't have the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► history that's the original Star Trek [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► crew did right so they didn't three [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► years of the show and then we have all [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► these movies you know we don't have [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► episodes that we miss it we're totally [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► episodic but we didn't see and the [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► characters are younger so some of it [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► like it didn't really make much sense to [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► me that he would be a vice-admiral other [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► than the fact that he's super-awesome he [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► seems a little young to be a [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► vice-admiral yeah but I thought it was [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► clever that they compress that [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► three-year mission in the front to you [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► know that montage of boredom for Kirk [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► and we see the little aliens and the [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► little aliens which I understand very [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► funny scene [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► yeah i was nicely done you get that [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► first look bigger than they were little [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► and they were no eating a muffin he had [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► to get ready so i thought was [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► interesting because it's so there's a [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► lot of shorthand writing as a Star Trek [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► fan I know the relationship so i can i [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► can fill in a lot of the cap so it [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► worked for me but I could understand how [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► it's just kind of rushed because they [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► asked don't have the time their movies [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► they can't you can't make a teen movies [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► before you can get to this plot right [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► now they don't have to imply that we've [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► seen 322 episode 66 episode 3 you know [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► three seasons and now there [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► like remember how Star Trek at three [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► seasons it's kind of like that but you [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► just kind of have to take it forward and [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► they're young so I you know as kirk is [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► this kirk wanted to be an admiral that [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► seems awfully premature because didn't [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► just graduate from surfing academy like [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► four years ago [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► yeah i mean he seemed a little too young [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► for that but again one of the things i [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► like about this that the other two films [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► just pissed me off is that he actually [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► applied he went through channel asteroid [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► he did it properly it wasn't like oh by [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► the way you're captain now [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► oh you can do this in my headcanon sorry [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► aghdashloo before before Kirk ends up [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► saving the entire Yorktown which change [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► changes the the the equation a little [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► bit [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► it's like well thanks for saving all of [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► us you save millions of people my [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► headcanon is that what she was going to [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► say is basically snap out of it i'm not [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► going to make you an admiral you just [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► became captain you're good at it you [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► need to you need you need to not she [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► turned out you take it takes some shore [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► leave and get back to it [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► stop being a man baby and that would [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► have been a nice scene [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► yeah but instead you know he saves [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► everything she's like all right you can [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► be an admiral if you want whatever it is [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► like yeah nevermind I'm the hair don't [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► but i don't want to be now which is good [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► because that I mean again that's the [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► special character are trying to give him [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► it just it seems a little premature and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► and yeah the reason that I go with it is [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► because i have seen all of those other [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► movies i did like the stuff about his [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► dad and the whole idea of like why did [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► you why did you join because he's not [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► like William Shatner's Captain Kirk he [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► didn't join for those reasons he joined [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► for the Dare that that that Christopher [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► Pike gave him and star trek 2009 and [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► that part was that part was interesting [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► so but yeah it was [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► it's dark and dour and then I do like [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► their I do like how they try to give us [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► a flavor of an episode at the beginning [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► of this and star trek into darkness [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► where there's you you're catching them [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► in in the middle of something I think [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► that's good although i think that that [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► was a problem that I had with it is i [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► have read reviews of this that say oh it [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► feels like a like an episode it's like [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► well no it doesn't because they finish [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► an episode and then he gets and then [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► they had this whole like we're gonna [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► send you on this mission and it turns [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► out to be a whole grand conspiracy that [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► threatens the whole of of Yorktown [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► and like that's not really a star trek [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► episode of Star Trek episode would be [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that they would find the planet and it [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► would be a trap but that's sort of not [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► anyway it's a minor point but i felt [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► like i couldn't we could we have just [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► had them out on their mission having [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► these questions why I have doesn't have [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► to be [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► we're going to you know get get waylaid [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► from our mission and go in and have this [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► movie at least the fate of the universe [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► wasn't steak and and one nice thing [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► about the dour beginning is that it does [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► have everyone a little off balance when [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► they wind up in this trap and wind up [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► getting split up into different groups [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► because now they're they're not just out [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► of sorts now it's it's not Kirk and [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► Spock is it it's kirk and check off its [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► Spock and McCoy it has weird [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► combinations so it's not even the best [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► combination of the crew right or quote [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► unquote the best combination and they [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► wind up having to work through that [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► through the movie which was I like that [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► I thought that was you i disagree i [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► think it I think it was the best [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► combination with phones bak well yeah i [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► know i absolutely are gonna keep harping [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► on you know Kirk and Spock Kirk and [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► Spock yet no I i agree Spock McCoy is [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► the best that one of the things that [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► this movie does but i think very few of [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► the Star Trek movies do well I think [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► about you know Star Trek for does this a [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► little bit stricter three does a little [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► bit but they make an effort to have [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► every character get some moments and [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► with seven characters it's a it's a tall [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► order to get seven of your characters [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► and give them things to do that are [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► interesting and that not everybody's [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► going to get to do a lot but everybody [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► gets to do something and by pairing them [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► and grouping them the way they do it [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► gets to be I mean that that's a good way [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► of doing it it's it's a not a bad [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► conceit to give them all a little moment [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► in the Sun because if it's seven people [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► standing on the bridge of a spaceship [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► it's it's not gonna happen right but but [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► they split them up [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► that said splitting them up really i [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► felt slow the movie down because we kept [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► on having to go from pair two pair from [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► group to group and and that's when the [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► movie felt like a sort of ground to a [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► halt and we skipped over the enterprise [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► getting blown up by the way which we [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► should probably mention enterprises get [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► blown up all the time right and i [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► thought this was a I thought this was [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► again waterway is doing it right with a [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► little little ships that smash [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► it into little pieces and I didn't [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► understand people were like they're [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► blowing up the enterprise it's how could [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► they do this like they do it all the [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► time all the dates it's not a shock even [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► in the third original movie they blew up [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► the enterprise so it's not like it's a [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► shocking pink although this one I think [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► maybe about my favorite enterprise [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► blowing up scenes [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► yes I had to close my eyes for a lot of [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► that scene because that was that was [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► that was pretty much where I lost ya all [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► ability to pay attention to the film for [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► quite awhile simply because it was very [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► very hard to physically watch a lot of [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► swooping lot of shaking the swooping I [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► is is some of the geography stuff that I [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► i had at an issue with is that I get [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► what they're trying to do but I felt [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► like it was who was too much and too i [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► think David's point to the shaky cam [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► stuff it's like I'm not sure you needed [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► the shaky cam with new swooping and the [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► changes in perspective all at the same [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► well it's like you know that's what we [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► got what what is what is Kirk doing [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► where is he [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► what's going on where is a whore why are [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► they splitting off the saucer it's [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► pretty much gonna go down on the planet [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► anyway what are they doing which which [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► part is flying away from what it's like [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► I didn't even realize that there's like [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► a major plot point the fact that was it [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► bones had already flown one of the [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► little alien vessel things and that's [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► why he had to go on [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► I didn't realize until they got back in [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► it towards the end of the movie but [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► that's what they had been in the first [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► place idea right now I got that the idea [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► was that they were separating the saucer [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► so that they would have enough impulse [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► power to go back in the nebula and hide [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► and run away right for help but it was [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► it was all it yeah it was all very cool [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► is that that was there was something i [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► figured out a few minutes after it [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► started [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► it's like Oh impulse power of course and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► but yeah I was just get that part i got [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► i just didn't get the the alien ship [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► part there's a lot happening so uh let's [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► let's see what else we want to talk [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► about we talk about a wish to buy jayla [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► who Scotty finds on the planet [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► yes she I thought she was I thought she [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► was fun in the trailers I was like oh no [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► it's gonna be like [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► primitive woman on Planet falls in love [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► with Captain Kirk and all that and now [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► she's a very capable person middle of a [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► signer for Starfleet at the end she's [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► yeah I I hope she's in the next one yeah [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► actually I would like to watch her show [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► like please do not regenerate started [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► engineer [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► yeah i would watch the heck out of that [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► yeah just like Lela III picture [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► Erica ya done who for you there she [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► comes from a Savage Land but now she's a [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► little anxious costume [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► yes this is true i could also go with [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► futurama Leela i love i love the fact [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► that she's got she's says well I know [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► your language from my house and we go [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► back there and this is the reveal I wish [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► again I wish it wasn't spoiled for me [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► because it's a pretty fun reveal where [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► she's actually been living in a [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► Federation starship she's rigged it up [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► so she can listen to music from them [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► from the music music data banks [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► she's trying to fix it and she runs into [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► Scotty what are the chances so she had [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► dreams Montgomery Scotty back to fix the [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► spaceship but it's a it's a fun moment [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► and it's a fun reveal and she's you know [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► she's she's her character flaws [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► basically that she's afraid because they [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► killed her family and and she has to get [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► over it and trust and there's some trust [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► issues she has to work out but she's [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► never anything but capable which is a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► which is fun [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► yeah refreshing actually yeah I like [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► that there are no damsels in distress [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► basically yeah i agree i mean like hora [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► hora is the one who basically lets [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► Captain Kirk escape and she makes that [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► move after she's punched a bunch of [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► crawls guys so she has she has a moment [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► she's not she's not waiting you know [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► hiding from the fight she's in it and [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► she basically saves Captain Kirk we get [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► sure at dash Lou as the Admiral so we've [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► got a woman in a position of authority [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► who gives dispenses submit some wisdom [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► and advice to Captain Kirk you know it [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► by the standard it's not it's not a lot [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► but by the standards of these star trek [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► movies it's it's better treatment of [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► women than they that they've done when [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► like poor Carol Marcus was in her [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► underwear for no reason for example yeah [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► i mean as much as I i did enjoy into [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► darkness that if that was you know [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► besides besides the the bed naked moment [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► but just like seeing all the white guys [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► in charge of Starfleet was like really [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► so so this this did have a light up [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► as much as i enjoy blondes in their [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► underwear I didn't need that in the dirt [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► it's not necessary [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► no you're right about the Admirals and [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► stuff later alright guys so here we go [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► we got sure aghdashloo guys hey as [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► commas national comment or whatever she [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► is she's in charge of stuff economics a [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► that's good because he always calls for [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► sure Sasquatch Frank tell me something i [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► need to know nobody has a little pep I [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► things nice Commodore I don't know she's [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► just under cover from the other universe [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► of the expanse that's all yeah she works [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► for the UN yeah yeah goodbye United [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► Earth space fleet [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► ok let's talk about crawl [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► ar-ar-ar villain crawl played by Idris [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► Elba the great the great interest Elba [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► who is for the first half of the movie [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► completely unrecognizable and in the [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► second half [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► mostly unrecognized people i didn't [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► actually realize it was him until the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► credits and I knew going in that he was [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► in this movie I just forgotten and I [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► knew the twist before going into the [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► movie and of course going into the movie [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► and watching them like of course yes i [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► went i would have figured out I would've [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► figured that anyways I i did i did and i [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► can I was like okay there's a I mean to [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► their credit it took me you know until [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► the they showed the video of the shaky [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► fuzzy and you didn't see all of it video [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► of the crew of the Frank right and I was [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► like oh ok this is probably something [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► ok it's not probably not just there [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► because we're supposed to be wistful [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► about the poor people who died a hundred [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► years ago [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that's ok probably right probably which [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► actually reminded me of Star Trek [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► insurrection right where its people here [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► now really old much older than they [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► should be but they've unnaturally kept [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► themselves alive but now they don't look [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► like they used to look they look [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► horribly disfigured and stuff it's like [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► that scroll it's the same deal you may [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► have murray Abraham little machine for [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► all we know his little face stretching [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► machine but he doesn't have the the [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► official masseuses that's true he just [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► has suspended when he's got the bumps on [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► his space instead you know masseuses I [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► exaggerated a little bit i did recognize [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► yourself before the credits but it it [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► generally yeah he was he was so so [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► covered up that I mean I'm still a [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► little mad at myself for not right [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► using his voice because i like it was [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► one of those things where like I know [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► this voice why can't I place it just [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► because it was on the spot and then by [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► the time that he was revealed that was [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► like I almost feel like I wasted all of [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► this time just trying to figure out who [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► that is under the makeup and that was it [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► was a distraction from in well from [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► tolerating that character from I just [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► didn't care about to start with I feel [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► like it was a mistake to make him so [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► alien because its star trek we would [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► have given them a pass if it looks like [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► it's elbow with some bumps and stuff we [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► would have been like oh well you know [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► what Star Trek they're making him an [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► alien but then you don't get the twist [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► well no I think you would still get I [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► think you would still get the twist [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► right i think i think you would know who [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► a is at first yeah because he doesn't he [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► doesn't really say his name for most of [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► the movie and then you know not to get [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► too many check-ins in here but when they [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► first get into the Franklin Scotty goes [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► oh this was cotton baltazar medicines [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► ship he vanished in a hundred years ago [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► and I went that's Chekhov's mention of [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► who crawl really is because that you [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► know why is he saying that in the middle [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► of this scene it has nothing to do with [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► all we're going to meet captain medicine [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► so other check out is what you're saying [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► yeah check out Twitter and check off [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► with an H it's a check of all the way [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► down and check out with 28 years I guess [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► yeah well there is definitely a a lot of [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► economy going on that like everything we [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► see is important which on one level I [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► mean I appreciate that they set it up [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► but on another level at some point if [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► there are no red herrings in there if [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► there no like interesting details that [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► don't matter you realize that it all [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► kind of like everything it only exists [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► in order to service the plots like oh we [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► saw the Yorktown it must be under siege [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► later because why would we see it [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► otherwise and then like every character [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► becomes relevant in in some specific way [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► which I would I you know again I find I [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► find that a little a little [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► disappointing but I love interest Elba I [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► I don't really understand other than for [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► the machinations of trying to fool the [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► fool the viewers that he's got his [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► little machine that makes him less bumpy [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► sometimes I don't know is that he's a [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► good actor and I like the idea i like [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► the idea that a former like earth marine [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► put into Starfleet kind of [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► against his will gets lost in a wormhole [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► and basically like sort of like like on [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► being stranded on Ceti alpha five gets [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► all you know just become so embittered [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► by how they've led him here that he [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► finds this hate for the for the [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► Federation I i can accept all of that [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► but the details kind of like the fact [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► that he's on a planet with lots of [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► mining stuff boy mining stuff is [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► dangerous by the way in Star Trek watch [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► out for it that he's got he's able to [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► tap into the communications of Starfleet [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► he's close enough apparently to earth [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► now that he can he can be right on their [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► borders in this nebula [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► I don't know I I the more I started to [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► think about it the more than I realized [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► that it was it was way too engineered [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► for something that probably could have [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► worked if it was simpler and the the [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► mysterious weapon that just happens to [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► be floating in space in a place where he [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► was able to get part of it but not all [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► of it and then Kirk happens to end up [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► with it on the enterprise I'd that that [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► all know what you Gary be a funny and [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► fun plot when I was like an ancient [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► weapon from our culture but incidents [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► like he's just a dude from Earth who's [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► been like looking on ebay for them to [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► sell both the cover to the box to the [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► murder weapon I I just well yeah it's [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► it's the thing that he was trying to [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► give the aliens in the very beginning of [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► the movie [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► yeah and and it was given to them as [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► part of this peace mission so it's not [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► it's not like he just sort of looked [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► into it right but yeah it's it is how to [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► get from point A to point B that's the [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► thing yeah he had a huge coincidence I i [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► think they were there were few too many [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► things that got sort of trimmed to say [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► hey we need more action let's take a [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► little of this detail we don't need this [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► detail but we need the character stuff i [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► loved the character stuff I loved that [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► it didn't take its time with so now [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► cross just too complicated [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► yeah if you need that much detail to [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► explain crawl simplify crawl right right [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► right yeah it's exactly and and they [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► just took away too many little details [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► like for instance i had no idea how he [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► was supposed to be making himself look [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► that way and how he managed to change [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► into mostly human by the end and now [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► I've seen it explain when you get here [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► he sucks the life out of right on a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► Starfleet people that I got but part of [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► is that he supposedly absorbs part of [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► them them into him and that alters his [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► appearance throughout yeah i didn't i [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► didn't notice that up until the last [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► scene so now i want to see it again to [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► see does he really changed through the [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► whole movie does he look a little [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► different and he changes a couple of [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► times M one of the things that I really [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► liked about the the trailer and that i [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► actually was disappointed in the movie [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► was I really like the idea where we're [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► crawl says what this is where the [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► frontier pushes back right like the idea [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► like Star Trek is going to say what if [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► there's an alien race out there that [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► that is like doesn't like the Federation [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► doesn't like the idea that everybody's [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► trying to be friends that they are they [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► wanna you know they don't want this they [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► want to upset in some way I I like that [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► idea [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► it's completely undercut because in the [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► end it's just a guy from the Federation [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► who's mad added because I mean he's not [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► that different from Nero sorry mirror [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► was really boring [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► he's more interesting with nero recently [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► and it's just like mine and bent on [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► revenge again again using mining [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► equipment to destroy some mining [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► equipment in the end of that he's he's [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► scared of the frontier he's scared of [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► the unknown and that's what sort of [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► pushes him too bad he's not he's not [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► he's he's not scared of it he wants to [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► beat it up [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► he's a war out and he annoyed that the [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► Federation has turned in [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► he has earned everything in his life is [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► about battles and winning and the fed [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► all of a sudden Federation comes along [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► and were like hey kumbaya let's all [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► explore and we're not we're ready [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► no more money everybody's cool here's a [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► ship man go looking for cool stuff and [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► come back if you want to you have five [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► years and it's just not what he wants to [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► be doing clearly and then they don't [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► they don't rescue him and so is like [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► look I did everything you wanted to do [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► and you stuck me here and nobody's [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► coming to rescue me [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► so clearly the obvious thing for me to [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► do is to take all this mining drones [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► equipment make some kind of ridiculous [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► plan to get a super weapon and kill [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► millions of people [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► yeah you did you brought it on yourself [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► Federation [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► you guys are not making me feel better [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► about this movie I I could say I could [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► there are few things that I like I [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► actually quite like the the reveal of [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► sulu being gay because I felt like that [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► was handled it was so low-key it's so [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► sweet and they didn't like Hank [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► lampshade on it or anything they just [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► you know was like this here is a moment [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► where we need our art you know main [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► hunky character to to look at a family [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► and be wistful and they just chose to [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► have that family be you know to dads in [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► a kid I was like that's that is a nice [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► way to do that [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► that's right and that dad is Doug Jung [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► who is the corrections correctly i don't [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► know well here apparently the actor that [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► cast fell out at the last minute and so [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► they're like Doug guess what [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► all right there he said actually over [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the interview I ride with him is his [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► response was I don't think I'm [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► attractive enough to be John shows [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► husbands and they're like I just put on [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► the put on the outfit dude just don't [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► worry about it a little better don't [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► worry it's the future man there's no [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► money and it's all cool your character's [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► personality its Great Spirit don't I i [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► liked a lot of the like i said i like [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► that i like the look of it I liked I [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► liked a bunch of the scenes I like a lot [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► of the character interactions even some [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► things that from the trailer I thought [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► come on like like the motorcycle [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► I thought the motorcycle stuff was fine [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► again they set up jailers little [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► holo-emitters thing where she can be in [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► three places at once but but the other [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► two are Holograms they set that up and [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► then they paid it off her missed that [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► turns into rocks or whatever yeah yeah a [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► language which is funny lot of funny [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► dialogue women when people getting [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► rescued great stuff with with Spock [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► McCoy where Spock is injured and McCoys [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► taking care of him all of that stuff was [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► really good [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► yeah honestly when it was one of Spock [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► and McCoy or Scotty and jayla that i was [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► i was happy [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► pretty much everybody else was kinda [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► like me please go back to the Caribbean [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► excited I fruit for me this this was the [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► first time I really bought all of them [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► as their characters i mean i enjoyed [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► enjoyed 2009 don't get me wrong on [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► I have a lot of problems with it i have [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► a lot of problems with into darkness and [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► more the more times i watch it the more [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► i dislike it [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► this was the first time I I really [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► bought all of them as the characters and [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► and so those those interactions did have [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► a little more weight to them like i [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► don't i don't know that they could have [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► gotten away with some of that Spock and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► McCoy stuff in 2009 because right it is [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► a nerd it isn't there [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► where is this yeah I mean yeah that's [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► see that's part of what i enjoy i'm [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► willing to forgive certain plot [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► shortcuts to get the rest of this which [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► I didn't see in the other the other two [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► no I i get that I mean I i think that i [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► think that there are lots of things [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► wrong with the plot and the filling and [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► some of the direction but the character [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► stuff is is good and fun and I can see [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► why people say things like it's like a [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► star trek episode or reminded me of the [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► original star trek in that way which is [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► which is you get the sense that they've [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► day these characters have been together [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► a long time the actors have earned the [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► shorthand of thinking about the the not [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► just the relationships in these movies [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► but the relationships these characters [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► had in the past movies and TV show you [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► get you can kind of extrapolate you [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► granted to them and and they use that [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► and they show you their character they [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► know each other and that they've served [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► together and that gives you them license [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► to have those character moments that are [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► all you know all fun i think i think [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► it's amazing that in this third movie [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► they take the time to do what they felt [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► like they needed to do for fans in the [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► original Star Trek movies because you [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► know we had those those seventy-odd [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► episodes of the original Star Trek that [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► everybody watch for 20 years [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► that's what they were servicing here [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► it's just third movie but you know the [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► casting was really good in star trek [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► 2009 and they kind of earnings at this [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► yeah and I mean at the end when when [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► Spock is going through a ambassador [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► Spock's belongings and he opens up that [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► picture and and it's the original cast [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► and I I I teared up I yeah yeah I teared [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► up there is somebody sitting behind me [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► who was literally sobbing I believe [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► there are several I believe that and and [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► you know i didn't i didn't think they [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► were going to [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► go there I didn't think it would hit me [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► like that once I realized what they were [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► doing and and the weight of it I've seen [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► I've seen a couple of people and the [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► couple of critics complain about oh you [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► know why is Spock morning Spock that's [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► kind of it's not like they hung out all [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► the time I know these people that have [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► hearts [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► it's what it's not just that he's [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► confronting his own mortality although [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► it is that it is it is girls me and I [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► have died or even that you know here's [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► this much older version of him who has [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► had all of these amazing adventures and [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► done done all of these things to change [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► the universe and save the universe but [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► he's also confronting the fact that it's [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► this this family of seven right yes crew [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► of seven that stuck together through [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► everything and that you know and just [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► that be was beautiful and and you know [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► and I even in the moment i thought back [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► to the the part of into darkness where [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► Kirk dies and spot looks at the sky and [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► goes God which isn't earned in that [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► movie not as best moment but it doesn't [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► make any sense except you know if you [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► know wrath of cut and and this was the [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► complete hundred eighty from that this [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► was a beautifully rock moment and just [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► just that they were able to do that and [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► pull it off I thought was very nice it [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► was very understated to that's the other [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► thing i like a lot of the interactions [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► were very understated they weren't like [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► hey look at us [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► also no lens flares very few very few [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► lens flares although i was a seeing a [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► conversation on Twitter earlier some of [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► the special effects are our kind of [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► shaky [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► yeah but they didn't use ilm for this [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► movie and it shows it shows it does [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► once again they you know they sort of [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► cheaped out on the star trek special [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► effects in there there's some good stuff [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► that the Yorktown is beautiful [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► there's a weird stuff myojo steal our [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► friend who is reviewing this movie on [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► daddy focused so look for that was [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► talking about how he doesn't love [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► there's that perspective shot where [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► you're looking at kind of like the the [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the neck of the of that connects the two [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► sections of the enterprise and that's [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► what you're watching when it goes into [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► warp which is a weird angle and I don't [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► think that [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► get and that the that the work by the [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► warp-drive effect is also kind of [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► strange and I i agree i don't think [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► those work particularly well that said I [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► really do like the swarm of ships [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► attacking the enterprise and destroying [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► it i think that looks really good and is [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► not something that I feel like I've seen [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► before so I think they're good [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► there's good stuff too oh yeah during [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► that second during that part i was i was [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► thinking of nothing so much as more than [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► 1 D&D campaign being attacked by a swarm [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► which are my least favorite thing to be [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► attacked by Scott don't listen don't so [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► no i don't and yes i was just i actually [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► did sort of feel their frustration more [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► than I think i would have otherwise [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► because yeah fighting this morning's [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► really hard so I you know good for [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► trying enterprise but there's nothing [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► you can do person and yeah the moment [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► when you know you're watching that and [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► you think oh they just want to destroy [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► the enterprise and then the moment when [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► they start attacking the the lifeboat [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► ships was I was I don't know what are [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► they doing and I guess they're just [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► capturing them for some unknown reason I [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► don't know why they were doing that to [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► use to keep the crew so they could drain [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the manga second suck their life out of [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► them and get the the thingy because [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► Soviet crawl has been doing everyone's [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► logs so he can somehow I guess what's [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► happening at it doesn't make much sense [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► but no one one shot i did really like is [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► where I guess it's when Kirk rejects [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► from the saucer and the social keeps [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► going forward and you just see his [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► reflection as he's watching the ship [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► that was very nice and I'm i'm usually [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► reflection shots are getting our gimmick [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► so it takes a lot for me to like 1i like [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► yeah i thought that was good i also like [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► when they crashed the saucer which [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► brought back yes structure generations [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► to me i like that because that you feel [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► very final and then they go back there [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► and that little bit of its much someone [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► of it [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► yeah i thought that was really great [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► that they don't know it'sit's yes crash [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► we're gonna go back into the crash and [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► and get some stuff and smush the lady [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► who doesn't who has to be speak through [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► the translator which I like that part [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► that with the swishing i like but having [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► the traffic i like that the part where [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► she had to step into like the universal [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► translator booth or whatever and then [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► yeah give her a little thing I like all [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► yeah and I i like i like that subplot to [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► of of showing Kirk thinking a couple [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► moves a hit he's playing [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► three-dimensional chess which you don't [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► often see in these movies certain yeah [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► there's a nice moment with so check out [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► these interactions in this movie are [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► very much sort of like watching Kirk [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► work and there's a nice moment where he [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► says how how long did you know and he's [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► like well not right away but you know [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► i'm kurt kinda like works tells him like [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► how he figured it out but I i like i [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► like some of those moments to where it's [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► that kind of mentoring thing course very [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► sad and elgin died then you know This Is [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► It this is it for checkoff he you know [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► he did a good job he he's doing what I [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► think is fundamental that check out in [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► the original series 2 which is that he's [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► very young and has a lot to learn he's [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► very capable but he has a lot to learn [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► and here he sort of learning about being [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► you know being a commander and and the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► tricks that Captain Kirk as and i like [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► that pairing I thought that was an [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► interesting little love little pairing [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► between those two armed [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► oh I wanted to mention the other thing [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► that I i thought i saw in the trailer [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► that made me roll my eyes that I [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► actually you know that and people after [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► they saw the movie where we're talking [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► about that i really liked which was [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► using the Beastie Boys yes yes yes it [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► was broad and it was silly and yet I [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► felt like it was properly set up the [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► fact that that jayla is listening to [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► fight the power earlier and Scotty make [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► talks about the classical music and all [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► that she says she likes the beat and all [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► of that and and again this is a movie [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► where every single thing that you see is [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► set up for later in the movie baby comes [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► back around but the fact that they know [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► that it's funny and that the and that [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► she pick sabotage and that Kirk goes [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► good choice and like is that classical [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► music all of those jokes i had that they [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► have to use the radial pulse to disrupt [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► the things I know it's silly I know it's [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► very somebody said very very much like a [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► doctor who plot resolution [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► yeah but you know what I felt like they [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► set it up properly and it just made me I [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► just enjoyed it [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► I I don't have [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► my eyes I wasn't cynical about it was [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► like you know what it sabotage again [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► like in the first movie and it's funny [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and let's do it like the Beastie Boys [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► win ok to me that retro actively makes [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► it work and in 2009 I didn't like it in [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► the 2009 when I was like come on this is [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► stupid and is this makes it pay off [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► this is a beautiful use of it and I mean [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► I i think i said in slack [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► it's almost like a throwaway gag from [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► spaced come to life it's like you know [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► what if the enterprise had to you know [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► fight off the thing using radio and [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► these wrap something rap yeah it just [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► seems like a joke simon pegg would have [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► made years and years ago and now he gets [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► to actually make it happen and I i like [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► that i thought that was great [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► yeah that that scene actually it it kind [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of won me over at the beginning of it I [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► was not I was not on board simply [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► because the way that everything was put [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► together it was like this is supposed to [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► be a really fun scene like you're [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► supposed to go along for the ride and at [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► that point I kind of had been having a [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► lot of fun to the rest of the movie so I [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► was like you haven't earned this film [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► like why am i why should i be having [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► little bit but the music for LG [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► entertain me with the music and and just [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► the way everything had been properly [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► setup at least 44 for that particular [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► part it's sort of i couldn't help it i [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► ended up i was smiling by the end of it [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► and I i liked it in spite of my in spite [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► of myself so so yeah it it took a couple [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► of of seconds for me to sort of settle [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► into it because I was like wait a minute [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► what are you trying to do to be movie [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► but you know what it did it to me [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► so there you go there's some there's [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► some joy to that seem right like that [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► they're kind of their kind of moving to [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► the music and they are doing their job [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► and they are beating the bad guy and [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► they have figured it out and they're [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► smart and they're going to win all of [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► those things happen in that moment which [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► is which is what really gets me on its [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► side to is like everybody's having a [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► good time being the bad guy [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► yeah let's do this we're all having a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► good time now and they figure it out as [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► a team [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► it isn't just current or Spock which is [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► a nice touch [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► it's like they all they all realize this [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► and they put it together together which [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► that was very nice [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► now once once they get into the Yorktown [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► and especially once they get to know [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► because you have to have the fist fight [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► I thought I i did think the setting of [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► the fist fight was clever I kind of [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► liked having you know a clear room and [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► you know in the middle of space where [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► we're gravity in the air of ya and I [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► like the weird gravity lot you know [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► again it was a clever concept was it [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► shot well I don't think so [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► I fundamentally i have a problem with [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► that you know the MacGuffin it is such a [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► MacGuffin like to literally to the point [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► of we have a box that if you open this [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► room with me I will kill everybody [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► it's just you know I don't know a I like [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► you said there's got to be a fistfight [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► at the end I guess I had that moment in [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► this movie where I thought oh I think [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► the problem with the series is that they [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► are they all it all last one [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► confrontation too long like in Star Trek [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► into darkness if they had ended it where [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► they defeat the the big ship and cons [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► ship crashes the end that's a or or con [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► ship is blown up and that's the end I [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► think that's a better i think that's a [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► better movie it is i think in in this [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► movie when as much as I like the look of [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► the Yorktown stuff I felt like they had [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► already earned their victory and so now [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► what are they what are they fighting for [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► its that double ending again and as much [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► as I liked the stuff in the inn in new [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► york town much better than I like the [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► fist fight and stuff on earth into [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► darkness it still felt like it was one [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► too many things [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► it's like let's do the end of into [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► darkness maybe a little bit more [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► interesting but it's still the same [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► yeah yeah i'm also McCoy and Spock were [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► flying around in that little ship while [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► the whole climax goes on for a very long [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► time but yes we're well he did say he [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► didn't know how to land so I see if he's [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► always yes it is also he did a couple of [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► circuits in the hallway and exactly and [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► that place is really big swing from the [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► splashdown or something but knowing they [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► had to save save Kirk in the end what [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► have we not covered that that you think [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► we should mention well one of the I'm [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► not a person who [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► notices whether or not the special [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► effects are all that good but one of the [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► things that I did notice was there [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► seemed to be and this could be someone [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► can check the actual footage and see if [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► it's true or not but there seems to be a [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► lot more aliens just kind of milling [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► about in this movie and then in the [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► previous two which I really liked [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► because you always feel like you know [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► their budgets and things that you can't [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► have that many great aliens but it [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► always felt like there are humans all [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► over the place and then you've got [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► someone who looks kind of like a human [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► but he has a bump on the snows and [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► there's your alien this one they are [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► actually aliens kind of will not [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► actually put their representations of [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► aliens in this fictional universe that [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► are just kind of there at one of my [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► favorite moments in the movie is when [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► Kirk is off to separate the saucer and [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► he sees an dancin and he's like I need [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► your help and you think oh she's good [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► she's gonna help him you know with the [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► the separating separation of thought [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► yeah but then she disappears you like [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► what happened there and then spin once [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► again that you know Jason it gets paid [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► off later when she opens her head yes [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► open your head and out comes the part of [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► the government the top suit or whatever [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► because yeah then choose she's [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► disintegrated with it as a thank you [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► yeah she was kind of dumb I mean I like [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► I liked her aesthetic but but really i [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► don't i don't see why she gave up so [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► quickly like you know people are gonna [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► die [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► why don't you just use one of our main [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► characters you decide though I have to [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► say them [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► yes but overall I say thumbs up to [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► having lots of aliens everywhere because [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► it makes you feel like Star Trek has [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► budget I I loved all the the grace notes [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► and references and in jokes that you [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► know peg being a fan is going to put in [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► there right right down to McCoy wearing [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► a medallion at the very end like you [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► want to go back out there you go back [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► out there that was a nice touch and and [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► he admitted on twitter that yes that was [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► intentionally the the you know McCoy [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► showing up in the motion picture with [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► the medallion and when he they say yeah [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► whatever happened to the front whether [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► rumors that encounter giant green hand [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► and space yes [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► I I was the only person who laughed in [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► the room which was in the credits [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► yeah during the closing credits [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► sequences so there's a little leak and [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► see like just this the side of a giant [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► green hands like a look at know there's [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► a lot of little bits a lot of movie [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► things like i said i felt like i was [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► reminded of many Star Trek movies good [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► and bad in the little bits that they [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► took that I I felt were you know kind of [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► intentional like the dune buggies in [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► emphasis is echoed by the by the [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► motorcycle and we got the enterprise [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► blowing up that land which is in [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► although practically all the Star Trek [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► movies but you got kirk's a curse whole [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► thing with his his birthday bothering [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► him and him thinking about being an [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► admiral that's a that's a call back i [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► had those interaction feelings about [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► about crawl that you know I is a bunch [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► of different star trek movies kind of [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► remember it all and episodes too and I [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► saw a lot of deficits [TS]