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Cortex 61: State of the Apps 2018

 

01:00:00 ◼   ► they started working with more and more

01:00:01 ◼   ► people in slack and also end up being

01:00:04 ◼   ► signed up to more slacks I'm very aware

01:00:07 ◼   ► that like in the space of a year or it

01:00:09 ◼   ► may be 18 months I've gone from a slack

01:00:12 ◼   ► is my communication salvation to I feel

01:00:15 ◼   ► deeply ambivalent about slack because

01:00:17 ◼   ► now when I open up it's just like I find

01:00:19 ◼   ► it hard to manage but also recognize

01:00:23 ◼   ► that this this like email has now become

01:00:26 ◼   ► a like a business communication tool

01:00:28 ◼   ► that is so firmly entrenched I can't

01:00:31 ◼   ► imagine that it's going anywhere yeah I

01:00:35 ◼   ► don't know if I feel exactly the same as

01:00:37 ◼   ► you but I feel there are some things

01:00:39 ◼   ► where I'm similar well like I hang out

01:00:41 ◼   ► in slack way less than I used to but I'm

01:00:44 ◼   ► still there all the time because it's

01:00:46 ◼   ► where the business is happening with the

01:00:48 ◼   ► people that I work with like slack is

01:00:50 ◼   ► kind of more akin to the office now like

01:00:55 ◼   ► it's where my co-workers are right and

01:00:58 ◼   ► there is still like a water-cooler that

01:01:00 ◼   ► people can go and chat in mm-hmm but I

01:01:03 ◼   ► think I spend less time actually doing

01:01:06 ◼   ► the chatting now I still listen but I

01:01:08 ◼   ► don't chat as much just because I don't

01:01:10 ◼   ► know why actually but it's it's just a

01:01:12 ◼   ► lot every single slack that I'm in

01:01:15 ◼   ► basically its sense to be quite a lot of

01:01:17 ◼   ► noise and it can be harder to keep up

01:01:20 ◼   ► with as time goes on and more and more

01:01:21 ◼   ► people join yeah I think there there

01:01:24 ◼   ► definitely is a function that there's

01:01:27 ◼   ► like it's like all communications

01:01:32 ◼   ► channels trend towards memes eventually

01:01:35 ◼   ► right like that's that's what just

01:01:37 ◼   ► happens is and like nobody means for it

01:01:40 ◼   ► to happen and of course like the reason

01:01:42 ◼   ► it happens is because it's funny and

01:01:44 ◼   ► it's easy but but it does make things

01:01:46 ◼   ► just really noisy and if you if you are

01:01:51 ◼   ► like if you're like me I feel like my

01:01:53 ◼   ► goal with slack as always I want to open

01:01:55 ◼   ► it up I want to get a bunch of stuff

01:01:57 ◼   ► done and I want to go that tendency

01:02:02 ◼   ► towards noise makes it harder to work

01:02:06 ◼   ► with sometimes and and slack you know in

01:02:11 ◼   ► a bunch of different slacks that many

01:02:12 ◼   ► you do have the

01:02:13 ◼   ► problem where it's like the urgent flag

01:02:18 ◼   ► on emails when like the other person

01:02:19 ◼   ► gets to decide how urgent a thing really

01:02:22 ◼   ► is like slack can be that way a little

01:02:24 ◼   ► bit where it's like other people are

01:02:25 ◼   ► deciding that a thing is really urgent

01:02:26 ◼   ► for everybody to have to hear about

01:02:28 ◼   ► right now and like maybe everybody

01:02:30 ◼   ► disagrees on how urgent that thing

01:02:32 ◼   ► actually is so I feel like I'm gonna be

01:02:36 ◼   ► using slack for forever

01:02:38 ◼   ► I really couldn't run my business the

01:02:40 ◼   ► way I do now without having a gray

01:02:43 ◼   ► industry slack like I just I can't

01:02:45 ◼   ► imagine doing it any other way

01:02:47 ◼   ► but I do find myself thinking about it

01:02:50 ◼   ► more ambivalently

01:02:51 ◼   ► as a tool as time has gone on yeah I

01:02:55 ◼   ► think if you say it's it's kind of

01:02:57 ◼   ► normal right like it's I think most of

01:02:59 ◼   ► the communication tools that I've used

01:03:01 ◼   ► in the past I've eventually felt like I

01:03:03 ◼   ► wanted to move away from social networks

01:03:07 ◼   ► yeah enough exactly like social networks

01:03:09 ◼   ► eventually I always want to find a

01:03:11 ◼   ► replacement for this which is better

01:03:13 ◼   ► than the current one like in and I think

01:03:16 ◼   ► slack is finally finally going that way

01:03:18 ◼   ► like slack was the replacement for work

01:03:21 ◼   ► email for me which is amazing I'm so

01:03:23 ◼   ► happy that happened but now I'm like

01:03:25 ◼   ► what is a replacement for slack there

01:03:28 ◼   ► isn't one yeah I've been I've been

01:03:30 ◼   ► thinking about that and it is it is

01:03:32 ◼   ► fascinating though where it's like you

01:03:33 ◼   ► know we've talked about email on the

01:03:35 ◼   ► show very many times and I am aware that

01:03:38 ◼   ► in my life in all realistic ways it's

01:03:41 ◼   ► almost like email has completely

01:03:42 ◼   ► disappeared for me it's like I almost

01:03:45 ◼   ► never even open email and I almost never

01:03:48 ◼   ► look at it because again 95% of what is

01:03:53 ◼   ► important in matters is coming to me

01:03:55 ◼   ► through slack so slack has just absorbed

01:03:58 ◼   ► all of that yeah which which I never

01:04:02 ◼   ► would have expected so do you want to

01:04:04 ◼   ► run into a lightning round okay yeah how

01:04:06 ◼   ► we gonna do this I don't understand

01:04:08 ◼   ► these rules do you want to just do one I

01:04:11 ◼   ► say one you say one and then we go and

01:04:14 ◼   ► you say one we have a little explanation

01:04:15 ◼   ► pick one what do you like all right one

01:04:17 ◼   ► password because it's where all the

01:04:19 ◼   ► passwords go and I now have like team

01:04:21 ◼   ► stuff set up and it's awesome numbers

01:04:23 ◼   ► absolutely love it as a spreadsheet

01:04:25 ◼   ► because it is

01:04:27 ◼   ► powerful than Excel but a million times

01:04:30 ◼   ► more beautiful than Excel and the way

01:04:33 ◼   ► you can arrange tables just fits with my

01:04:35 ◼   ► brain better so numbers is where all my

01:04:36 ◼   ► spreadsheets live in a similar thing I

01:04:38 ◼   ► love numbers for stuff that's just for

01:04:39 ◼   ► me but if anybody else is involved it's

01:04:42 ◼   ► Google Docs and Google sheets

01:04:44 ◼   ► nobody has collaboration tools like

01:04:47 ◼   ► Google does and the Docs and sheets

01:04:48 ◼   ► programs are the best in class even if

01:04:52 ◼   ► they can be frustrating yeah 100%

01:04:54 ◼   ► nobody does collaboration like Google

01:04:56 ◼   ► next one up I got to give all credit to

01:04:59 ◼   ► Federico 40g for recommending this to me

01:05:01 ◼   ► which is a service brain dot F M which

01:05:04 ◼   ► is yeah I'm gonna say music but not

01:05:08 ◼   ► exactly music to listen to while you're

01:05:10 ◼   ► working I listened to a single song on

01:05:13 ◼   ► repeat a lot whenever when I'm writing

01:05:14 ◼   ► but brain dot FM I really like bringing

01:05:17 ◼   ► this into my life because sometimes I

01:05:20 ◼   ► don't have a song that I'm listening to

01:05:22 ◼   ► on repeat and now brain dot F M is is a

01:05:25 ◼   ► is an easy decision to just be like I

01:05:27 ◼   ► don't know what song I'm gonna listen to

01:05:28 ◼   ► I'm just gonna open brain FM and just

01:05:30 ◼   ► let it play and I love it it's a it's a

01:05:33 ◼   ► great addition to the background sounds

01:05:36 ◼   ► in my life a mail Oh

01:05:38 ◼   ► air mail my email app it's my favorite

01:05:42 ◼   ► email app even though upsets people I

01:05:44 ◼   ► love it last one for me I'm gonna

01:05:45 ◼   ► mention an T RSI which I was still using

01:05:48 ◼   ► in 2014 if you're on a Mac all day you

01:05:51 ◼   ► want a computer to remind you to take

01:05:52 ◼   ► little breaks so that you can try to

01:05:54 ◼   ► manage your RSI and anti RSI is still

01:05:57 ◼   ► the one that I like the best I think

01:05:58 ◼   ► it's the simplest and it does the best

01:06:00 ◼   ► job of reminding you to take little

01:06:02 ◼   ► breaks and to take big breaks at regular

01:06:04 ◼   ► intervals if you're on a Mac all day I'm

01:06:08 ◼   ► just saying yeah if you're on a Mac all

01:06:09 ◼   ► day what happened to you it's are we

01:06:11 ◼   ► talking about me I'm talking to the

01:06:13 ◼   ► people hmm

01:06:13 ◼   ► last one I'm gonna recommend is a tool

01:06:15 ◼   ► that very few people are going to need

01:06:17 ◼   ► but I do use it and love it it's called

01:06:18 ◼   ► pipe drive and it's like a sales

01:06:20 ◼   ► management tool icons that sounds very

01:06:24 ◼   ► business it is in credits the most

01:06:26 ◼   ► business II app that I use it's like a

01:06:29 ◼   ► contact relationship management tool and

01:06:31 ◼   ► like a sales funnel tool we usually use

01:06:34 ◼   ► Trello for this and we outgrew Trello we

01:06:37 ◼   ► needed some more specific features like

01:06:39 ◼   ► having

01:06:40 ◼   ► ability to add people's contact

01:06:41 ◼   ► information to the deals that we were

01:06:43 ◼   ► doing and needing multiple people to

01:06:46 ◼   ► have better access over it so we use a

01:06:48 ◼   ► tool called pipe drive it is without a

01:06:51 ◼   ► shadow of a doubt the most business you

01:06:52 ◼   ► thing that I use

01:06:53 ◼   ► I almost feel a little bit uncomfortable

01:06:55 ◼   ► every time I open it sales funnels

01:07:00 ◼   ► everybody loves sales funnels so next up

01:07:06 ◼   ► is writing this is the exciting part

01:07:10 ◼   ► so what writing tools you using now okay

01:07:13 ◼   ► huge change absolutely love my main

01:07:18 ◼   ► writing app now is Ulysses and Ulysses

01:07:25 ◼   ► is just amazing and it took me a really

01:07:27 ◼   ► long time to get into it because it has

01:07:31 ◼   ► a very very different way of organizing

01:07:34 ◼   ► what you're working on and it was it was

01:07:38 ◼   ► that different method that kept me away

01:07:40 ◼   ► from it for a long time or I thought

01:07:41 ◼   ► like I don't need your rethinking of how

01:07:44 ◼   ► writing on pages works Ulysses but they

01:07:47 ◼   ► are totally right and they have this

01:07:50 ◼   ► concept where you don't have pages they

01:07:54 ◼   ► have these little things that are called

01:07:55 ◼   ► sheets and a sheet can be as long or as

01:07:59 ◼   ► short as you want it to be but the

01:08:02 ◼   ► killer feature is you can glue a bunch

01:08:06 ◼   ► of sheets together so that it looks like

01:08:10 ◼   ► it's a page but it remains easy to

01:08:14 ◼   ► rearrange so in a practical example like

01:08:17 ◼   ► right now I'm working on another Q&A

01:08:20 ◼   ► script like a for a Q&A video and so I

01:08:23 ◼   ► can have each question and answer be a

01:08:27 ◼   ► single sheet and then it makes it really

01:08:30 ◼   ► easy while I'm writing to just say oh

01:08:33 ◼   ► you know what this question this

01:08:34 ◼   ► actually works much better at the start

01:08:37 ◼   ► and so I can just quickly like fruit

01:08:38 ◼   ► drag it up rearrange it and it's it's so

01:08:42 ◼   ► nice plus they just have they have a

01:08:45 ◼   ► million great features like it's it's

01:08:48 ◼   ► markdown compatible but you can also

01:08:50 ◼   ► export to anything that you want and you

01:08:52 ◼   ► can write your own little

01:08:54 ◼   ► styles for how things are going to be

01:08:56 ◼   ► exported so like when I want to turn a

01:08:59 ◼   ► script into something that I'm going to

01:09:01 ◼   ► write on by hand I have my own custom

01:09:04 ◼   ► style to export it into PDF it's it's so

01:09:09 ◼   ► nice it's it's so great oh you can have

01:09:11 ◼   ► different different formatting for the

01:09:14 ◼   ► or different coloring for the way you

01:09:15 ◼   ► want text to be so you can say like oh

01:09:17 ◼   ► these two characters are going to mark

01:09:20 ◼   ► off that this text is going to be in

01:09:22 ◼   ► pink right or this text is going to be

01:09:24 ◼   ► underlined and you can you can start

01:09:27 ◼   ► building up a system for yourself about

01:09:29 ◼   ► how you want to work like it's it's

01:09:32 ◼   ► really really fantastic I feel like I

01:09:34 ◼   ► can't say enough good things about

01:09:35 ◼   ► Ulysses and I'm always coming up with

01:09:38 ◼   ► more ways to use it I have used it it is

01:09:42 ◼   ► very good it's too much for me it can it

01:09:46 ◼   ► can definitely be a bit over

01:09:48 ◼   ► overwhelming it makes me feel like I

01:09:51 ◼   ► should be writing a novel yeah it does

01:09:56 ◼   ► have a biased war that's not even fair

01:09:58 ◼   ► but it does it does maybe compel you to

01:10:02 ◼   ► be working on bigger projects like if it

01:10:05 ◼   ► feels like it could just be used for

01:10:07 ◼   ► these huge things and I don't even use

01:10:10 ◼   ► all of the features because I mean I'm

01:10:12 ◼   ► sinking it through Dropbox which then

01:10:14 ◼   ► only allows you to use a smaller number

01:10:16 ◼   ► of their features because if you're

01:10:18 ◼   ► using it with iCloud like you can do it

01:10:20 ◼   ► like an endless number of things with

01:10:22 ◼   ► Ulysses it's really quite impressive

01:10:25 ◼   ► actually I'll give you I'll give you an

01:10:27 ◼   ► example of a way I used it which was

01:10:30 ◼   ► totally unexpected but is a side effect

01:10:32 ◼   ► of of organizing and sheets and okay so

01:10:37 ◼   ► I've been I've been playing around with

01:10:39 ◼   ► another vlog for my channel which may or

01:10:42 ◼   ► may not ever get released I don't know

01:10:43 ◼   ► it's it's a big it's a big mess yay

01:10:49 ◼   ► Mike's laughing now because he's been

01:10:50 ◼   ► hearing about this for like months

01:10:55 ◼   ► but anyway a couple weeks ago I was I

01:10:58 ◼   ► was working on it and I felt like I I'm

01:11:01 ◼   ► at like a log jam point here like

01:11:03 ◼   ► nothing is really working but what I

01:11:06 ◼   ► what I got the idea to do

01:11:07 ◼   ► was in Ulysses I actually ended up

01:11:10 ◼   ► writing out a bunch of the different

01:11:12 ◼   ► parts of the vlog and using their color

01:11:16 ◼   ► coding to represent different things so

01:11:18 ◼   ► I could say okay let me let me type out

01:11:20 ◼   ► what I'm saying in the vlog at this

01:11:21 ◼   ► point and if it's pink

01:11:23 ◼   ► that means it's audio that was recorded

01:11:26 ◼   ► live on on on location and if it's green

01:11:30 ◼   ► here's something that I want like future

01:11:32 ◼   ► gray to be saying and if it's blue

01:11:34 ◼   ► here's something that somebody else was

01:11:36 ◼   ► saying and then if it's like another

01:11:38 ◼   ► color it's an indication of what's gonna

01:11:40 ◼   ► happen in the scene I would yeah well it

01:11:43 ◼   ► was it was an interesting thing to do

01:11:45 ◼   ► because like I wrote it out which one

01:11:47 ◼   ► just made me think a little bit more

01:11:48 ◼   ► about what the structure is going to be

01:11:51 ◼   ► but then because you have these sheets

01:11:53 ◼   ► it's like each sheet was like a little

01:11:55 ◼   ► subsection of a scene and it ended up

01:11:58 ◼   ► being a situation where I realized oh

01:12:00 ◼   ► this is this is much easier to think

01:12:03 ◼   ► about the vlog at a very high level

01:12:05 ◼   ► because now I can rearrange where these

01:12:07 ◼   ► things go without just having to watch a

01:12:11 ◼   ► whole bunch of footage over and over

01:12:13 ◼   ► again that maybe I'll use or maybe I

01:12:14 ◼   ► won't use so it just ended up being like

01:12:17 ◼   ► oh this is this is turned into a

01:12:20 ◼   ► text-based storyboarding tool mm-hmm

01:12:24 ◼   ► so it was it was just it was an

01:12:26 ◼   ► interesting thing to have done and it

01:12:28 ◼   ► really helped me a couple weeks ago

01:12:30 ◼   ► realize a bunch of stuff that doesn't

01:12:33 ◼   ► need to be included and a couple of

01:12:34 ◼   ► things that that should go in different

01:12:36 ◼   ► spots like it's much more obvious

01:12:37 ◼   ► looking at it that way so even if you're

01:12:40 ◼   ► not writing there may be other places

01:12:44 ◼   ► where the ability to rearrange text is

01:12:48 ◼   ► very valuable and so Ulysses is just

01:12:51 ◼   ► like that is it's real that's it's that

01:12:53 ◼   ► is it's real strong suit for any type of

01:12:56 ◼   ► writing that I do which is like longer

01:12:59 ◼   ► than a message to someone I'm probably

01:13:03 ◼   ► or if it's not going in notes so I'm

01:13:05 ◼   ► gonna get to notes later for its

01:13:06 ◼   ► purposes for me it would be there is

01:13:09 ◼   ► where I do this type of there is grave

01:13:11 ◼   ► there is a really really nice app that

01:13:14 ◼   ► does a great job with like markdown so

01:13:17 ◼   ► if I'm writing like a blog post or

01:13:19 ◼   ► something like that then it would go in

01:13:20 ◼   ► bare it

01:13:21 ◼   ► really really nice for it and I have

01:13:23 ◼   ► used their organizational features they

01:13:25 ◼   ► have a great tagging system and stuff

01:13:27 ◼   ► like that I haven't gone too deep into

01:13:29 ◼   ► that because I started doing it and then

01:13:31 ◼   ► realized that I never ever needed it

01:13:33 ◼   ► like I never I was I was tagging

01:13:35 ◼   ► everything I was writing him bear then

01:13:37 ◼   ► realizing that I just never needed the

01:13:39 ◼   ► tags because I could just search if I

01:13:42 ◼   ► needed anything and that wasn't such it

01:13:44 ◼   ► for me it wasn't a system where I was

01:13:46 ◼   ► like needed to catalogue things as such

01:13:49 ◼   ► so I kind of realized that it just made

01:13:51 ◼   ► sense we to open it right to know that I

01:13:53 ◼   ► need and then move away but like I

01:13:55 ◼   ► really really like bear I think it's a

01:13:57 ◼   ► very nice app that is going through a

01:13:59 ◼   ► lot of great revisions that are adding

01:14:01 ◼   ► new features very frequently I'm a big

01:14:03 ◼   ► fan of it sort of like how slack

01:14:06 ◼   ► amoeba-like

01:14:08 ◼   ► eat all of my email bear has an all of

01:14:11 ◼   ► the random text files in random folders

01:14:13 ◼   ► everywhere in my system so like I used

01:14:16 ◼   ► to have just in different places like

01:14:18 ◼   ► lists of things or here's here's a note

01:14:20 ◼   ► about this and I realized the same thing

01:14:24 ◼   ► that's like I'm just gonna keep all of

01:14:25 ◼   ► this in bear and if it's a list of

01:14:29 ◼   ► anything or a note on almost anything I

01:14:31 ◼   ► can just search for word and bear fast

01:14:33 ◼   ► enough and pull it up and I really like

01:14:35 ◼   ► it it's a great app it's a really

01:14:37 ◼   ► beautifully designed app as well and it

01:14:40 ◼   ► syncs quickly and and reliably so yeah I

01:14:43 ◼   ► have a ton of stuff in bear and I highly

01:14:45 ◼   ► recommend it as well and then obviously

01:14:49 ◼   ► I use my Apple pencil to take notes

01:14:51 ◼   ► every now and then and there are two

01:14:52 ◼   ► apps that I really like to do that with

01:14:54 ◼   ► and it's good notes and notability I

01:14:57 ◼   ► kind of use them both for different

01:14:59 ◼   ► things I find good notes to be really

01:15:02 ◼   ► good for marking up PDFs and stuff like

01:15:04 ◼   ► that

01:15:04 ◼   ► but if I'm taking notes I actually

01:15:06 ◼   ► prefer notability for it in the past at

01:15:09 ◼   ► least initially I found notabilities

01:15:11 ◼   ► Apple pencil support to be better I

01:15:14 ◼   ► really like the way you can move things

01:15:15 ◼   ► around and it's also good notes

01:15:18 ◼   ► sometimes overwhelms me with how much it

01:15:21 ◼   ► does and notability feels much more

01:15:24 ◼   ► focused when I'm in it hmm it's funny I

01:15:27 ◼   ► feel like I feel the exact reverse I

01:15:29 ◼   ► feel like notability has all of this

01:15:31 ◼   ► stuff and good notes is relatively

01:15:32 ◼   ► straightforward

01:15:34 ◼   ► but I think it's also just like I have

01:15:36 ◼   ► spent an enormous amount of time and

01:15:37 ◼   ► good notes I got yeah I really like that

01:15:39 ◼   ► you know that back up front like it was

01:15:41 ◼   ► in the 2014 list yeah yeah that was

01:15:45 ◼   ► surprising to see I didn't realize it

01:15:46 ◼   ► was it was that old so I think that is a

01:15:49 ◼   ► case of like longtime familiarity with

01:15:51 ◼   ► the app has just made it to me like it's

01:15:52 ◼   ► a it's it's indistinguishable from using

01:15:56 ◼   ► a legal pad and a pen for me at this

01:15:57 ◼   ► point so I absolutely love good notes

01:15:59 ◼   ► and I really like it that's all I have

01:16:02 ◼   ► for writing I don't know if you have

01:16:03 ◼   ► anything else I mean you know this is

01:16:09 ◼   ► where I could like I can just mention

01:16:10 ◼   ► Evernote it's sort of like you know it's

01:16:13 ◼   ► still there it goes in the right-hand

01:16:15 ◼   ► column well you know I use it for

01:16:17 ◼   ► research and stuff okay like there I

01:16:19 ◼   ► mean if we if we're shuffling into

01:16:22 ◼   ► research I would throw notes in for me

01:16:25 ◼   ► this is where I I put all of the links

01:16:28 ◼   ► and all of the articles and all of the

01:16:30 ◼   ► kind of the thoughts and notes that I

01:16:32 ◼   ► have for the shows that I do and as I'm

01:16:34 ◼   ► just going through the week and then

01:16:36 ◼   ► either the day before the day of the

01:16:38 ◼   ► show that's recording I will then go

01:16:40 ◼   ► into Google Docs and transfer that stuff

01:16:41 ◼   ► out and plan out the shows in more depth

01:16:43 ◼   ► but everything that I'm saving in the

01:16:45 ◼   ► weeks between each show it's all going

01:16:48 ◼   ► into the Apple Notes app it's a very

01:16:50 ◼   ► good app it got a little bit flaky not

01:16:53 ◼   ► flaky it's got a little bit weird in

01:16:54 ◼   ► some places and I was 11 with the way

01:16:56 ◼   ► that it saves some links that you put

01:16:58 ◼   ► into it but I never have data loss and

01:17:00 ◼   ► you know it's not that kind of weirdness

01:17:02 ◼   ► it's just sometimes things move around

01:17:04 ◼   ► in a strange way but the the share

01:17:06 ◼   ► extensions and all that stuff remain

01:17:08 ◼   ► completely rock-solid for me and I love

01:17:10 ◼   ► it bear has a really fantastic share

01:17:12 ◼   ► extension too but it can get it can get

01:17:16 ◼   ► kind of weird with sync conflicts so I

01:17:18 ◼   ► try and not put put stuff like that in

01:17:21 ◼   ► it hmm interesting

01:17:23 ◼   ► yeah I'm still using notes in the in the

01:17:26 ◼   ► way I described a while back which is

01:17:27 ◼   ► like just as a place to jot down stuff

01:17:30 ◼   ► that I'll figure out later where it goes

01:17:32 ◼   ► so notes is is a very temporary place

01:17:35 ◼   ► for me and and bear is the place where

01:17:37 ◼   ► structured long-term lists live like if

01:17:41 ◼   ► like if I'm thinking about something for

01:17:42 ◼   ► cortex I'll often write it down and bear

01:17:45 ◼   ► and then transfer it over to the Google

01:17:46 ◼   ► Doc later

01:17:47 ◼   ► okay so this is a similar usage really

01:17:50 ◼   ► yeah so video production I mean all I

01:17:55 ◼   ► have to say on this is final cut yeah I

01:17:58 ◼   ► have final cut to say as well but I do I

01:18:01 ◼   ► feel like I need to get something on the

01:18:02 ◼   ► record my final cut which is that's this

01:18:07 ◼   ► year I did I did make an attempt to

01:18:10 ◼   ► learn Adobe Premiere oh I forgot about

01:18:13 ◼   ► that yeah yeah there was a time where

01:18:15 ◼   ► you were threatening to move to audition

01:18:17 ◼   ► on me yeah I was I was investigating the

01:18:20 ◼   ► Adobe suite and I sunk a lot of hours

01:18:24 ◼   ► into learning Premiere and I got to the

01:18:27 ◼   ► point where I could put together a video

01:18:30 ◼   ► and in premiere like I got far enough

01:18:32 ◼   ► along and I just I felt like this is not

01:18:38 ◼   ► for me I don't like Premiere I don't

01:18:40 ◼   ► like the way it works Final Cut Pro just

01:18:43 ◼   ► works with my brain and I'm really glad

01:18:47 ◼   ► I put in all of those hours with

01:18:48 ◼   ► premiere because I feel like I feel like

01:18:50 ◼   ► I appreciate Final Cut Pro so much more

01:18:54 ◼   ► like I appreciate it a hundred times

01:18:56 ◼   ► more after using Premiere than I did

01:18:59 ◼   ► before so I feel like Final Cut you're

01:19:02 ◼   ► amazing

01:19:02 ◼   ► I'm sorry I looked elsewhere for a

01:19:04 ◼   ► little while that's exactly it like

01:19:08 ◼   ► you're the only one for me all of your

01:19:11 ◼   ► features that are amazing I was just

01:19:13 ◼   ► taking for granted and like I super

01:19:17 ◼   ► appreciate Final Cut Pro I may hold it

01:19:20 ◼   ► up as one of the the best applications

01:19:23 ◼   ► on any platform that Apple is that all

01:19:25 ◼   ► right all right okay I don't forgive

01:19:31 ◼   ► news like we're getting along just great

01:19:33 ◼   ► but yes I not only do I use Final Cut

01:19:36 ◼   ► Pro I really love Final Cut Pro no I

01:19:40 ◼   ► mean what about animation tools do you

01:19:43 ◼   ► still use any so at this point

01:19:46 ◼   ► everything that was my animation tool

01:19:50 ◼   ► creation stuff like that has essentially

01:19:54 ◼   ► 98% been outsourced at this point so I'm

01:19:59 ◼   ► working with my animator and

01:20:01 ◼   ► he is doing essentially all of the

01:20:04 ◼   ► animation at this stage so a lot of my

01:20:07 ◼   ► concerns about vector tools on on

01:20:09 ◼   ► different platforms they just they just

01:20:12 ◼   ► do not exist as concerns anymore for me

01:20:14 ◼   ► which which is a huge actually quality

01:20:16 ◼   ► of life improvement yeah not having to

01:20:19 ◼   ► worry about that stuff so is there

01:20:22 ◼   ► anything else in the video production

01:20:23 ◼   ► category so there's only one other thing

01:20:26 ◼   ► in the video production category that

01:20:28 ◼   ► I'll recommend which is an iPhone app

01:20:31 ◼   ► called filmic Pro which is if you're

01:20:35 ◼   ► ever going to try to be shooting video

01:20:37 ◼   ► say you're trying to walk down a street

01:20:40 ◼   ► in Las Vegas and you want to film a

01:20:41 ◼   ► montage this is a little a little manual

01:20:46 ◼   ► camera app a video camera app for the

01:20:49 ◼   ► phone which just has it has a million

01:20:52 ◼   ► features but there's really only two

01:20:55 ◼   ► things that I use in it that I really

01:20:57 ◼   ► like and it's the ability to to set a

01:21:02 ◼   ► point on the screen for where you want

01:21:04 ◼   ► the focus and where you want the

01:21:07 ◼   ► exposure to be set so you can say like

01:21:09 ◼   ► I'm walking down the street but I want

01:21:11 ◼   ► the focus to be on the sidewalk but I

01:21:13 ◼   ► want the exposure to be set against the

01:21:15 ◼   ► sky alright so you can manually say this

01:21:17 ◼   ► is how it's supposed to look

01:21:18 ◼   ► whereas with the regular iPhone camera

01:21:20 ◼   ► like the iPhone does a great job of

01:21:21 ◼   ► automatically figuring it out for you

01:21:23 ◼   ► but sometimes you do want to be able to

01:21:25 ◼   ► manually set that and then the other

01:21:27 ◼   ► thing that I like which is just a little

01:21:29 ◼   ► detail but with filmic Pro you can tell

01:21:32 ◼   ► it which microphone it should be

01:21:34 ◼   ► recording the audio from and just as a

01:21:38 ◼   ► little trick like for a lot of Las Vegas

01:21:40 ◼   ► stuff and for some vlog stuff you can

01:21:43 ◼   ► tell it to use the microphone that is

01:21:47 ◼   ► facing you while you're recording the

01:21:49 ◼   ► stuff that's in front oh man that's

01:21:51 ◼   ► amazing yeah it's really great and you

01:21:54 ◼   ► can save it as a little preset so you

01:21:56 ◼   ► can open up filmic Pro and so it will be

01:21:59 ◼   ► using the microphone at the bottom of

01:22:00 ◼   ► the phone to record you talking while

01:22:04 ◼   ► you're looking at the screen and filming

01:22:06 ◼   ► the thing that you're looking at so I

01:22:09 ◼   ► really like that if you're just trying

01:22:11 ◼   ► to capture any kind of video on your

01:22:14 ◼   ► phone

01:22:14 ◼   ► and that's the thing that you're using

01:22:15 ◼   ► so I highly recommend it it's a great

01:22:17 ◼   ► little app it's a pro tip it's it's an

01:22:20 ◼   ► app recommendation

01:22:21 ◼   ► what about reading I have absolutely

01:22:23 ◼   ► zero in this category you don't exactly

01:22:27 ◼   ► so I will have no reading recommendation

01:22:30 ◼   ► I mean I'll recommend the Kindle is the

01:22:34 ◼   ► Kindle an app it's a physical device is

01:22:36 ◼   ► this too far is that stated the app

01:22:37 ◼   ► Kindle isn't app you're recommending the

01:22:40 ◼   ► Kindle app well I mean I'll recommend

01:22:42 ◼   ► that I'll recommend the Kindle app if

01:22:44 ◼   ► you have to I'll recommend a physical

01:22:46 ◼   ► Kindle as better now that they've fixed

01:22:48 ◼   ► all of their software problems and if

01:22:50 ◼   ► you installed the Kindle app on your

01:22:51 ◼   ► phone I recommend that you create a

01:22:54 ◼   ► workflow to launch it that you don't

01:22:56 ◼   ► have to look at its icon which is

01:22:58 ◼   ► improved but still not good so yeah I'll

01:23:02 ◼   ► recommend Kindle in in terms of reading

01:23:03 ◼   ► oh and of course I'll still recommend

01:23:06 ◼   ► Instapaper for articles and stuff like

01:23:08 ◼   ► if I'm saving articles I'll still throw

01:23:10 ◼   ► them into instant paper so those are the

01:23:12 ◼   ► the reading apps that I use okay was

01:23:16 ◼   ► reading a category on my old yes in the

01:23:21 ◼   ► original was Instapaper and Kindles so

01:23:23 ◼   ► you're a your creature of habit

01:23:25 ◼   ► well I think I think I think what

01:23:26 ◼   ► actually happened is we went so we went

01:23:28 ◼   ► far away and then came back right it was

01:23:31 ◼   ► so long that we've actually done that oh

01:23:32 ◼   ► yeah definitely used other stuff right a

01:23:34 ◼   ► bit you had a pocket phase and you had

01:23:37 ◼   ► an iBook I had a socket phase and the

01:23:39 ◼   ► iBooks phase wasn't a phase iBooks phase

01:23:42 ◼   ► iBooks was a was a state of life for a

01:23:45 ◼   ► very long period of time so it may

01:23:47 ◼   ► actually be that like right after I

01:23:49 ◼   ► wrote that article I switched away from

01:23:50 ◼   ► Kindle and I have only just recently

01:23:51 ◼   ► switched back also you can't recommend

01:23:55 ◼   ► the physical Kindle through fear that

01:23:56 ◼   ► this ends up becoming a gift guide

01:23:58 ◼   ► episode you have to be real careful we

01:23:59 ◼   ► have to like skirt around the gift guide

01:24:01 ◼   ► yeah no it's not a gift guide not a gift

01:24:03 ◼   ► guide it's the state of the apps but a

01:24:05 ◼   ► Kindle would make a fantastic Christmas

01:24:07 ◼   ► yeah it's not a gift guide but I will

01:24:10 ◼   ► recommend this for one gift it's I don't

01:24:12 ◼   ► think one gift is a guide no it's not

01:24:15 ◼   ► know what Jing is the next category why

01:24:19 ◼   ► did I have watching as a category what

01:24:20 ◼   ► was past me thinking about I don't get

01:24:22 ◼   ► this I think where does it roll this up

01:24:23 ◼   ► into media right some reason you

01:24:26 ◼   ► included feedly and

01:24:27 ◼   ► and you're watching which seemed like

01:24:30 ◼   ► strange really strange recommendation

01:24:33 ◼   ► because one is an RSS reading app and

01:24:36 ◼   ► one is read it later app no I but here's

01:24:42 ◼   ► what I was doing Mike

01:24:43 ◼   ► I was I was trying to force the YouTube

01:24:47 ◼   ► subscription service into being the way

01:24:49 ◼   ► I wanted it to be so I was pulling RSS

01:24:52 ◼   ► feeds for YouTube channels and then

01:24:54 ◼   ► dumping them in a separate app so that I

01:24:56 ◼   ► would get all the videos in the order

01:24:58 ◼   ► and organization that I wanted that's

01:25:00 ◼   ► what I used to be doing no I think you

01:25:02 ◼   ► can't do that anymore because youtube

01:25:04 ◼   ► doesn't even have RSS feeds for channels

01:25:07 ◼   ► I think they got rid of it that's not

01:25:09 ◼   ► even still exists because why would you

01:25:11 ◼   ► set up your own RSS feed right yeah yeah

01:25:14 ◼   ► I think that's I think that's all gone

01:25:16 ◼   ► I mean obviously I recommend YouTube but

01:25:19 ◼   ► I don't think I need to recommend that

01:25:20 ◼   ► to anybody

01:25:21 ◼   ► it's like recommending Netflix like yeah

01:25:23 ◼   ► got some great shows have you ever heard

01:25:25 ◼   ► of smart phones I think that you might

01:25:27 ◼   ► like them I use an app on my iPad called

01:25:31 ◼   ► end player hmm what I use this for end

01:25:34 ◼   ► player is a really great way to get to

01:25:37 ◼   ► be able to get videos onto an iPad and

01:25:40 ◼   ► have a place to watch them in so I'll

01:25:42 ◼   ► give you an example we do not have

01:25:45 ◼   ► YouTube read in the UK yeah very

01:25:47 ◼   ► frustrated so if there is a YouTube

01:25:50 ◼   ► video look there are some videos that I

01:25:52 ◼   ► watch that are multiple hours in length

01:25:54 ◼   ► and I would like to have them on a plane

01:25:56 ◼   ► like I watch some like Let's Plays and

01:25:58 ◼   ► stuff like that and some game streams

01:26:00 ◼   ► that sometimes I like to watch them when

01:26:02 ◼   ► I'm on a plane instead I use workflow to

01:26:06 ◼   ► download the YouTube video okay right

01:26:09 ◼   ► and then I save it out to end player

01:26:11 ◼   ► that's clever

01:26:13 ◼   ► that's clever and so that's that's a

01:26:15 ◼   ► good way of doing it I'd actually don't

01:26:17 ◼   ► know if I can share the YouTube workflow

01:26:19 ◼   ► they exist on the Internet yeah I don't

01:26:21 ◼   ► think you should you can find them

01:26:23 ◼   ► potentially but that's something that I

01:26:25 ◼   ► do well there is a way to fix this

01:26:27 ◼   ► YouTube just give me YouTube read like

01:26:30 ◼   ► you are the one who controls this just

01:26:33 ◼   ► give me it but they won't I wish they

01:26:35 ◼   ► would but they won't because I get

01:26:37 ◼   ► teased every time I go to the US right

01:26:38 ◼   ► and I open the YouTube apps like hey

01:26:40 ◼   ► sign up

01:26:41 ◼   ► they put download buttons on everything

01:26:43 ◼   ► so this is point let's call icon just

01:26:45 ◼   ► cuz I'm in this country I can't start

01:26:46 ◼   ► just using you to read now I had a

01:26:48 ◼   ► YouTube red account on a YouTube account

01:26:51 ◼   ► that is mine that is in the US so for a

01:26:54 ◼   ► while I was enjoying all the benefits of

01:26:56 ◼   ► YouTube bread in the UK but eventually

01:26:58 ◼   ► they crack down on that they're like oh

01:26:59 ◼   ► no we know you're paying us money we

01:27:02 ◼   ► know this is a u.s. bank and account but

01:27:05 ◼   ► you sir are not on a vacation you're

01:27:07 ◼   ► clearly living in another country so no

01:27:11 ◼   ► Netflix did the same thing so

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01:28:30 ◼   ► website listening I feel like we need a

01:28:33 ◼   ► little disclaimer here because I'm proud

01:28:36 ◼   ► to recommend overcast has the only

01:28:37 ◼   ► podcast app that you should use but I

01:28:39 ◼   ► feel like we need to say like we know

01:28:41 ◼   ► Marco who makes overcast so just need to

01:28:45 ◼   ► need to put that on the record there but

01:28:46 ◼   ► I really do think overcast is is the

01:28:49 ◼   ► best podcast app and

01:28:51 ◼   ► it's it's largely because of the two

01:28:55 ◼   ► things like it's the smart speed feature

01:28:57 ◼   ► which cuts out a lot of the gaps unless

01:29:01 ◼   ► edited podcasts and it is also it's also

01:29:06 ◼   ► that whatever Marco has done with the

01:29:08 ◼   ► low level audio stuff

01:29:10 ◼   ► no podcast app makes speeded up audio

01:29:14 ◼   ► sound better than overcast so that's one

01:29:20 ◼   ► of the main reasons why I really really

01:29:22 ◼   ► recommend it is you can listen to a

01:29:24 ◼   ► podcast on a higher speed and it doesn't

01:29:27 ◼   ► have as many of the artifacts or

01:29:30 ◼   ► weirdness that other other speeded up

01:29:33 ◼   ► systems use exactly I mean the reason I

01:29:38 ◼   ► use overcast is because of smart speed

01:29:39 ◼   ► which is the silent shortening I don't

01:29:42 ◼   ► listen to podcasts at like 1.5 or 2x I

01:29:45 ◼   ► just let overcast just use its rubber

01:29:47 ◼   ► banding to make things faster and where

01:29:50 ◼   ► it needs to and it's that is the feature

01:29:53 ◼   ► right like it doesn't matter how many

01:29:55 ◼   ► other apps there are it doesn't matter

01:29:57 ◼   ► if like all that designs really pretty

01:29:59 ◼   ► or whatever as there are a bunch of apps

01:30:00 ◼   ► that are like that it doesn't matter

01:30:02 ◼   ► like because they don't have smart speed

01:30:04 ◼   ► in the way that I like it other apps

01:30:06 ◼   ► have silent stripping but I've tried it

01:30:08 ◼   ► and just to my ears it just doesn't

01:30:10 ◼   ► sound as good it's close but not good

01:30:12 ◼   ► enough and it's not good enough to make

01:30:13 ◼   ► me want to move and I one of my other

01:30:16 ◼   ► favorite features about overcast is the

01:30:17 ◼   ► black theme because I have an iPhone 10

01:30:20 ◼   ► so black themes where it's like

01:30:23 ◼   ► all-black look amazing because the

01:30:24 ◼   ► yellow it's green so I like that a lot

01:30:26 ◼   ► and yeah I mean that's why I use

01:30:28 ◼   ► overcast but then as gray said

01:30:30 ◼   ► the developer Marco is a friend and that

01:30:32 ◼   ► always helps but overcast is really good

01:30:35 ◼   ► I mean I know a lot of people use it and

01:30:39 ◼   ► they're not all friends of Marco so you

01:30:41 ◼   ► know there you go we can do I don't know

01:30:43 ◼   ► that guy's pretty popular travel travel

01:30:49 ◼   ► makes me sad because you could you could

01:30:51 ◼   ► ride that on your tombstone yeah yeah

01:30:54 ◼   ► you know in very many levels but I just

01:30:56 ◼   ► realize I totally forgot the name of

01:30:57 ◼   ► that app that everybody was using to

01:30:59 ◼   ► track flights that was then bought by a

01:31:01 ◼   ► company that then withered and died do

01:31:04 ◼   ► you

01:31:04 ◼   ► you know the one I'm talking about yes

01:31:05 ◼   ► was everybody saying you'll list here

01:31:07 ◼   ► flight track five is that what it was a

01:31:10 ◼   ► flight track yeah flight track was the

01:31:12 ◼   ► app yeah it was so good and nothing has

01:31:18 ◼   ► ever replaced it and I like when that

01:31:21 ◼   ► thing disappeared I swear to God I was

01:31:23 ◼   ► reaching out to everyone I knew to be

01:31:27 ◼   ► like what are you using to track your

01:31:28 ◼   ► flights like people are people on the

01:31:30 ◼   ► edge of my contact network I was like

01:31:32 ◼   ► what are you using to track flights tell

01:31:33 ◼   ► me what you're using I got hoping hoping

01:31:35 ◼   ► that somehow someone would have

01:31:36 ◼   ► discovered some like gem in in the

01:31:40 ◼   ► wilderness that I hadn't stumbled upon

01:31:42 ◼   ► but there was a really long period where

01:31:45 ◼   ► flight tracking apps were just not not

01:31:47 ◼   ► up to speed but my recommendation in

01:31:51 ◼   ► this category I finally found one this

01:31:54 ◼   ► is pretty good it's not perfect I do

01:31:58 ◼   ► sometimes have notifications about

01:32:02 ◼   ► flights that don't seem quite right but

01:32:05 ◼   ► the do is just forward though to the

01:32:07 ◼   ► developer and he seems really active

01:32:08 ◼   ► about trying to like wrinkle out all the

01:32:10 ◼   ► the final little bugs but I'm using

01:32:13 ◼   ► flight logger and I I really like it

01:32:17 ◼   ► because flight tracking apps have this

01:32:20 ◼   ► this delicate balance that they have to

01:32:23 ◼   ► play like there's a lot of information

01:32:25 ◼   ► like how are you going to display that

01:32:28 ◼   ► information and I think flight logger

01:32:31 ◼   ► makes for me the design decisions in

01:32:35 ◼   ► that trade-off that are pretty good so

01:32:37 ◼   ► that that's the one that in the past I'm

01:32:40 ◼   ► gonna say in the past six months I've

01:32:42 ◼   ► really settled on as okay this is going

01:32:44 ◼   ► to be the flight tracker for me every

01:32:46 ◼   ► time I'm traveling what are you using

01:32:49 ◼   ► like I used to use to I used to I use

01:32:53 ◼   ► flight logger and I really like flight

01:32:55 ◼   ► logo but I need to say they have been a

01:32:57 ◼   ► sponsor in the past some of my shows a

01:33:00 ◼   ► useful at logo because I like its

01:33:02 ◼   ► simplicity but then I also use an app

01:33:05 ◼   ► called app in the air has a lot of

01:33:09 ◼   ► information but too much and most of the

01:33:12 ◼   ► time I don't want it but there have been

01:33:13 ◼   ► times when I do want that amount of

01:33:15 ◼   ► information the problem with app in the

01:33:17 ◼   ► air is

01:33:17 ◼   ► sometimes it's too busy and it's pretty

01:33:19 ◼   ► expensive like they have like I think

01:33:22 ◼   ► it's like five dollars a month or like

01:33:24 ◼   ► thirty dollars a year I mean okay like

01:33:27 ◼   ► I'm comparing it when I say expensive to

01:33:29 ◼   ► what apps cost right like in a plant

01:33:32 ◼   ► that's pretty explain it but but I do

01:33:34 ◼   ► really like it but I like to you I use

01:33:38 ◼   ► them in conjunction every time I get on

01:33:39 ◼   ► a plane I put them into both apps so I

01:33:41 ◼   ► just want to find out like what time am

01:33:43 ◼   ► I taking off then I'll just open flight

01:33:46 ◼   ► logger and just find that now but if I

01:33:47 ◼   ► want to get like what type of plane do I

01:33:49 ◼   ► have will I have Wi-Fi are there lounges

01:33:51 ◼   ► in that airport like up in the air has

01:33:53 ◼   ► all of that ancillary and ancillary

01:33:55 ◼   ► information and I would say great if you

01:33:57 ◼   ► haven't used it in a while they

01:33:59 ◼   ► redesigned the app a little while ago

01:34:01 ◼   ► and it got a lot better it got way it

01:34:03 ◼   ► used to be really pushy about certain

01:34:06 ◼   ► things yeah like I think I'll just say

01:34:08 ◼   ► okay so maybe the redesign happened but

01:34:10 ◼   ► the reason I stopped using app in the

01:34:11 ◼   ► air is I've never felt this way about an

01:34:14 ◼   ► app but I felt like I was getting

01:34:16 ◼   ► bullied by app in the air like it was so

01:34:18 ◼   ► yeah variant on the things they wanted

01:34:21 ◼   ► me to do and and and also just like they

01:34:24 ◼   ► really wanted the passwords to my email

01:34:27 ◼   ► accounts to do stuff that I didn't

01:34:28 ◼   ► really care about them doing and it was

01:34:30 ◼   ► so pushy I felt like I feel like I'm

01:34:32 ◼   ► getting bullied by yeah you know like

01:34:35 ◼   ► it's way way better for I would

01:34:37 ◼   ► recommend you to try out again justice

01:34:38 ◼   ► okay I'll take a look at it again and

01:34:40 ◼   ► see yeah so yeah I really liked it we'll

01:34:44 ◼   ► talk about games well you always want to

01:34:46 ◼   ► talk about games Mike well yeah yeah of

01:34:48 ◼   ► course I love games I wanted to talk

01:34:50 ◼   ► about games last time but it just made

01:34:52 ◼   ► you sad should we talk about Mario

01:34:56 ◼   ► Odyssey okay flip flops solitaire is

01:35:13 ◼   ► probably my favorite iOS game this year

01:35:16 ◼   ► it is like a really weird solitaire game

01:35:19 ◼   ► I've always liked solitaire games you

01:35:21 ◼   ► know but I've never been like incredible

01:35:23 ◼   ► solitaire this is this is difficult to

01:35:26 ◼   ► describe I think but flip flops

01:35:28 ◼   ► solitaire lets you go in both direct

01:35:31 ◼   ► so with solitaire you would usually go

01:35:35 ◼   ► for example sighting at the top like 10

01:35:37 ◼   ► 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 right like you would

01:35:40 ◼   ► go down right you go down with ace being

01:35:42 ◼   ► 1 but in flip-flops solitaire you can

01:35:45 ◼   ► stack in both directions so you could

01:35:48 ◼   ► have a 10 card right and you could put

01:35:51 ◼   ► on that tank card over a 9 or a jack

01:35:55 ◼   ► okay so you go up or down go up or down

01:35:57 ◼   ► I mean eventually you have to try and

01:36:00 ◼   ► still put all the cards away but it is

01:36:03 ◼   ► an easier way to move the cards around

01:36:04 ◼   ► because you could put them everywhere

01:36:07 ◼   ► it's I recommend people just try it it's

01:36:09 ◼   ► a fantastic game I really really love it

01:36:12 ◼   ► it's my favorite game this year that's

01:36:14 ◼   ► kind of been added to my games folder

01:36:16 ◼   ► and my games folder contains like my

01:36:19 ◼   ► all-time favorite iOS games and flip

01:36:21 ◼   ► flops solitaires very quickly become one

01:36:23 ◼   ► of those what that makes me think of is

01:36:25 ◼   ► a game I didn't play a lot of but I did

01:36:28 ◼   ► really enjoy was oh god what the heck is

01:36:31 ◼   ► it called I just need to look it up to

01:36:32 ◼   ► get the name right really bad chess I

01:36:35 ◼   ► don't know if you played this or not

01:36:36 ◼   ► it's made by the same person oh okay

01:36:39 ◼   ► well then that that makes sense

01:36:40 ◼   ► yeah they're both of these games are

01:36:42 ◼   ► made by Zach gage okay right there we go

01:36:44 ◼   ► yep but I had fun with really bad

01:36:48 ◼   ► chassis the premise there is I used to

01:36:50 ◼   ► play chess a lot when I was a kid you

01:36:52 ◼   ► know I was like a deal the chess team

01:36:55 ◼   ► kind of you know you're a kid come on

01:36:58 ◼   ► yeah

01:36:58 ◼   ► totally surprised but one of the things

01:37:01 ◼   ► that happened with me when I was playing

01:37:02 ◼   ► chess is when I started getting better

01:37:06 ◼   ► at the game the game became deadly

01:37:10 ◼   ► boring to me because you realize like oh

01:37:12 ◼   ► the first part of the game is about

01:37:13 ◼   ► openings and it's always the same and

01:37:16 ◼   ► then the interesting part of the game is

01:37:17 ◼   ► only when it you start getting into

01:37:19 ◼   ► unknown situations later and really bad

01:37:23 ◼   ► chess is super fun because it starts out

01:37:25 ◼   ► with the beginning locations of all your

01:37:28 ◼   ► pieces are just randomized and it made

01:37:31 ◼   ► the game just it made chess fun to play

01:37:34 ◼   ► again and I think it's the same thing

01:37:36 ◼   ► like what you're talking about with flip

01:37:37 ◼   ► flop solitaire where

01:37:39 ◼   ► the designer is tweaking the rules of

01:37:42 ◼   ► the game to make the game more fun to

01:37:45 ◼   ► play yep and so like I really enjoyed

01:37:48 ◼   ► really bad chess and like if you have

01:37:51 ◼   ► ever played chess and left it behind

01:37:52 ◼   ► this is at the very least you will have

01:37:55 ◼   ► an enjoyable afternoon playing really

01:37:58 ◼   ► bad chess it was it was it was a lot of

01:38:00 ◼   ► fun I'm so what games have you been

01:38:02 ◼   ► enjoying and they've recent are they old

01:38:04 ◼   ► here's the thing what I was thinking

01:38:06 ◼   ► about games this time because my old

01:38:08 ◼   ► article it's like Who I have I have a

01:38:09 ◼   ► bunch of games to recommend people that

01:38:11 ◼   ► are recent games but I I tend to go in

01:38:16 ◼   ► phases in and out of games or it's like

01:38:18 ◼   ► I play a lot and in a condensed period

01:38:21 ◼   ► of time and then I go for a while and I

01:38:23 ◼   ► don't play very much and I feel like

01:38:25 ◼   ► there's a there's a bigger meta cycle

01:38:27 ◼   ► that has happened in my life which is

01:38:28 ◼   ► that this year has been a relatively low

01:38:31 ◼   ► gaming year for me overall so I feel

01:38:34 ◼   ► like I don't have an enormous number of

01:38:37 ◼   ► games that came in like I know I did get

01:38:40 ◼   ► the switch so I'm just I'm going to just

01:38:42 ◼   ► mention three because I mentioned them

01:38:44 ◼   ► before so I can do it very quickly but I

01:38:46 ◼   ► have come to think of these games as my

01:38:48 ◼   ► Holy Trinity of games these are the

01:38:50 ◼   ► games that have stuck with me the

01:38:52 ◼   ► longest that I have played the most and

01:38:55 ◼   ► that have three very distinct roles in

01:38:57 ◼   ► my life can you guess what the first one

01:38:59 ◼   ► is Mike what might it be

01:39:03 ◼   ► hmm it's truck simulator game I was like

01:39:10 ◼   ► yeah okay mm-hmm yeah of course

01:39:13 ◼   ► right we've talked about it a million

01:39:14 ◼   ► times truck simulator American Truck

01:39:17 ◼   ► Simulator in particular absolutely love

01:39:19 ◼   ► it and that is my brain dead game it's

01:39:21 ◼   ► it's great many hours maybe I was I was

01:39:24 ◼   ► thinking about iOS and obviously has no

01:39:27 ◼   ► help that no there's no help they're

01:39:29 ◼   ► very very good Mac gaming rig but then

01:39:34 ◼   ► on top of that I mentioned them before

01:39:35 ◼   ► but I'll just mention them now again

01:39:37 ◼   ► factorio and rim world are the two other

01:39:40 ◼   ► games that I absolutely like and

01:39:43 ◼   ► I don't know if any have ever ever

01:39:48 ◼   ► anybody use the phrase absolutely like

01:39:52 ◼   ► yeah no one says that you love something

01:39:56 ◼   ► or you like it

01:39:58 ◼   ► you're absolutely like it I guess I do

01:40:01 ◼   ► absolutely like these I absolutely don't

01:40:12 ◼   ► mind them I'm glad you're enjoying

01:40:15 ◼   ► yourself over there this is what happens

01:40:19 ◼   ► on podcasts right when you're talking

01:40:21 ◼   ► instead of writing like these things

01:40:22 ◼   ► that come out you're like why am I

01:40:23 ◼   ► saying this no idea thanks brain for

01:40:26 ◼   ► assembling that sentence

01:40:27 ◼   ► absolutely like it's a phrase that I can

01:40:29 ◼   ► imagine you using right well I'm gonna

01:40:32 ◼   ► use it for I'm gonna use it now right

01:40:33 ◼   ► now that it's come into existence right

01:40:35 ◼   ► [Laughter]

01:40:38 ◼   ► but yeah I would describe rim world as

01:40:42 ◼   ► stardew valley except fun that's the way

01:40:45 ◼   ► I describe room and factorio is a game

01:40:53 ◼   ► where if you have any any programmer

01:40:55 ◼   ► inclinations at all factorial might be

01:40:58 ◼   ► dangerous for you to try but it is

01:41:00 ◼   ► deeply deeply involving and they've just

01:41:04 ◼   ► put out a new version in time for

01:41:05 ◼   ► Christmas which I'm I'm really really

01:41:08 ◼   ► trying to prevent myself from even

01:41:09 ◼   ► looking at until I have finished all the

01:41:11 ◼   ► work that I need to do until Christmas

01:41:13 ◼   ► season arrives because as soon as I open

01:41:15 ◼   ► that up it's like okay well here go here

01:41:17 ◼   ► go a bunch of hours but those have been

01:41:20 ◼   ► the stable three Holy Trinity games for

01:41:22 ◼   ► me for a long time now and I just I

01:41:24 ◼   ► think they are just great solid games in

01:41:28 ◼   ► in very different area so I just I

01:41:30 ◼   ► really like them and I don't I don't

01:41:31 ◼   ► have a bunch of new recommendations this

01:41:35 ◼   ► year so I'm just gonna rear-end those I

01:41:37 ◼   ► am gonna give you a very quick super

01:41:42 ◼   ► quick just give you the names of my iOS

01:41:44 ◼   ► gaming Hall of Fame mm-hm

01:41:46 ◼   ► threes Altos adventure stagehand Domino

01:41:51 ◼   ► drop a mini Metro

01:41:52 ◼   ► they are my favorite did they all my

01:41:54 ◼   ► favorite iOS games of all time and

01:41:55 ◼   ► flip-flop solitaire joins them

01:41:56 ◼   ► like they are the games that I always

01:41:58 ◼   ► keep installed on my iPhone they are

01:42:00 ◼   ► perfect iPhone games yeah Altos

01:42:03 ◼   ► adventure I can definitely recommend

01:42:05 ◼   ► that's really fun and and beautiful like

01:42:08 ◼   ► the art style and out those adventures

01:42:09 ◼   ► is great and mini Metro I never played

01:42:13 ◼   ► it on iOS I played it when it came out

01:42:14 ◼   ► on on Steam when it was in early access

01:42:16 ◼   ► and that that is I think that's a great

01:42:20 ◼   ► example of a game that is simple but

01:42:25 ◼   ► involving and one of the things that I

01:42:27 ◼   ► really like about mini Metro is it's a

01:42:29 ◼   ► game where you always lose but you don't

01:42:31 ◼   ► mind

01:42:32 ◼   ► it's very Tetris like like the

01:42:34 ◼   ► complexity just keeps scaling up and

01:42:36 ◼   ► you're doing a very simple thing and

01:42:38 ◼   ► you're always going to lose it's just a

01:42:40 ◼   ► question about how how long can you go

01:42:42 ◼   ► on before you lose so yeah I'm also

01:42:44 ◼   ► gonna really recommend mini Metro so

01:42:47 ◼   ► there are a couple of categories that I

01:42:49 ◼   ► think we could condense into

01:42:52 ◼   ► miscellaneous yeah I think we can do a

01:42:55 ◼   ► lightning round in miscellaneous all

01:42:58 ◼   ► right you go first I'm gonna mention the

01:43:01 ◼   ► last service I think which is Dropbox

01:43:06 ◼   ► oh yeah Shalini as one you know I kind

01:43:09 ◼   ► of forget like because it's just there

01:43:12 ◼   ► yeah it's it's just there but Dropbox is

01:43:16 ◼   ► the filesystem for me for everything and

01:43:21 ◼   ► it's the way that I keep my work managed

01:43:24 ◼   ► across different devices different

01:43:26 ◼   ► operating systems it's it's the

01:43:29 ◼   ► absolutely vital underpinning of almost

01:43:31 ◼   ► everything I do and I upgraded to

01:43:34 ◼   ► Dropbox business this year so that I

01:43:37 ◼   ► could use their new features like

01:43:38 ◼   ► selective or so not selective syncing

01:43:41 ◼   ► but the thing where you can have in it

01:43:42 ◼   ► what is it called it's what we call it

01:43:45 ◼   ► infinite it was originally called

01:43:47 ◼   ► Dropbox infinite which is an amazing

01:43:49 ◼   ► name and then they changed it to

01:43:51 ◼   ► something else and I can never remember

01:43:53 ◼   ► what the new name is because it's boring

01:43:55 ◼   ► but it's it is Dropbox's version of what

01:43:58 ◼   ► iCloud Drive tries to do which is like

01:44:01 ◼   ► we can show you all your files and then

01:44:04 ◼   ► we'll just download them as needed

01:44:05 ◼   ► except unlike iCloud Drive which is

01:44:08 ◼   ► terrible and caused me an enormous

01:44:10 ◼   ► number

01:44:10 ◼   ► of frustrating problems when I went to

01:44:12 ◼   ► use a smart sink no cuz smart sink is

01:44:15 ◼   ► the thing that just hides the folders no

01:44:17 ◼   ► that's electives not sink maybe it is

01:44:20 ◼   ► maybe it's it is either smart or

01:44:22 ◼   ► selectively sink

01:44:24 ◼   ► yeah I think it's smart sink cuz it says

01:44:25 ◼   ► on the website access every file in your

01:44:27 ◼   ► Dropbox right from your desktop using

01:44:29 ◼   ► very little hard disk space yeah yeah

01:44:31 ◼   ► okay yeah you're right I'm looking at it

01:44:32 ◼   ► now here it is it's smart sync but it is

01:44:36 ◼   ► great to be able to designate a folder

01:44:38 ◼   ► as to say like this folder always has to

01:44:40 ◼   ► be on the computer and up-to-date and

01:44:42 ◼   ► then this other folder you can push it

01:44:45 ◼   ► to the cloud and if I ever need to

01:44:47 ◼   ► access it just download it as fast as

01:44:49 ◼   ► you can and also in the theme of

01:44:53 ◼   ► communicating with lots of other people

01:44:55 ◼   ► you know Dropbox I have you know shared

01:44:57 ◼   ► folders with like 10 people various

01:45:00 ◼   ► things just so vital and to give you an

01:45:05 ◼   ► indication of just how vital it is my

01:45:08 ◼   ► Dropbox folder if I or if I open it up

01:45:10 ◼   ► now ok my Dropbox is seventy three point

01:45:16 ◼   ► six percent full on a 15 terabyte

01:45:20 ◼   ► Dropbox accounts but I am usually I am

01:45:24 ◼   ► using a lot what are you doing that's a

01:45:29 ◼   ► huge that smart sync is pretty vital I

01:45:33 ◼   ► mean I as somebody who has a shared

01:45:35 ◼   ► Dropbox folder with you I am very aware

01:45:37 ◼   ► of the fact that you don't like to

01:45:39 ◼   ► delete anything ever and there is like

01:45:42 ◼   ► some some pretty severe selective

01:45:46 ◼   ► thinking that we have to do like no no

01:45:49 ◼   ► but see but here's the thing I don't do

01:45:51 ◼   ► any selective syncing because with the

01:45:52 ◼   ► Dropbox business thing like the core

01:45:54 ◼   ► tech stuff is all just there and I never

01:45:56 ◼   ► even looking at well I have to because I

01:45:57 ◼   ► don't have that feature

01:45:59 ◼   ► I pay for their one of them paid plans

01:46:02 ◼   ► but I don't have the business plans the

01:46:05 ◼   ► nice thing with the business plan thing

01:46:06 ◼   ► is that I I select cortex as a file

01:46:09 ◼   ► which is just pushed into the cloud so

01:46:13 ◼   ► all of the core tech stuff is in the

01:46:15 ◼   ► cloud but I can also say if something

01:46:18 ◼   ► new pops up so like when we're done when

01:46:21 ◼   ► we're done recording this show have the

01:46:23 ◼   ► new thing

01:46:24 ◼   ► sync locally as quickly as you can so I

01:46:26 ◼   ► only ever have the new ones on the the

01:46:30 ◼   ► computer locally and then the rest of it

01:46:32 ◼   ► like I just never even look at it and it

01:46:34 ◼   ► just it just exists

01:46:35 ◼   ► wherever the Dropbox data stores are

01:46:38 ◼   ► probably you know in an NSA facility

01:46:40 ◼   ► somewhere but you know it's like

01:46:43 ◼   ► whatever it works great and I need it so

01:46:45 ◼   ► that's that's what but that's what it's

01:46:47 ◼   ► gonna be but yeah I'm sitting on a on a

01:46:49 ◼   ► 15 terabyte Dropbox account and you'll

01:46:52 ◼   ► like 10 terabytes into it

01:46:56 ◼   ► yeah it's whatever seventy-three point

01:46:58 ◼   ► six percent of 15 terabytes is Wow okay

01:47:02 ◼   ► so that's a pretty vital service for me

01:47:04 ◼   ► let's hope the smart sync never breaks

01:47:06 ◼   ► and then just ten terabytes of stuff

01:47:09 ◼   ► tries to get pushed to you my Cloud

01:47:13 ◼   ► Drive used to do and ugly you never know

01:47:18 ◼   ► books are got it together yeah I'm gonna

01:47:21 ◼   ► recommend one of my very very very

01:47:22 ◼   ► favorite iOS apps which is carrot

01:47:24 ◼   ► weather oh yeah it's on my list so good

01:47:26 ◼   ► so I love carrot weather it is by far

01:47:29 ◼   ► the best weather app that I've ever used

01:47:31 ◼   ► for customization and data plus it has

01:47:34 ◼   ► this fun character to it you can you can

01:47:36 ◼   ► adjust whoever you want or don't want it

01:47:38 ◼   ► but I kind of like the joke so it tells

01:47:40 ◼   ► but the Apple watch app is just

01:47:43 ◼   ► stupendous and it is an app that is in

01:47:47 ◼   ► continual development and I thoroughly

01:47:49 ◼   ► recommend it to anybody that cares about

01:47:51 ◼   ► the weather yeah it's the it's the

01:47:54 ◼   ► no-brainer choice for a weather app and

01:47:56 ◼   ► I turn that personality all the way down

01:47:59 ◼   ► yes no patience for that lines in the

01:48:02 ◼   ► middle I just let it make jokes on the

01:48:03 ◼   ► screen it never bothers me of anything

01:48:05 ◼   ► which is a thing you can just there's

01:48:06 ◼   ► some space where they can just throw

01:48:08 ◼   ► some jokes in and I like that the

01:48:10 ◼   ► developer has found a way to update

01:48:13 ◼   ► those remotely and so they're very

01:48:16 ◼   ► frequently topical which is one which I

01:48:18 ◼   ► enjoy mm-hmm you enjoy that oh yeah I

01:48:22 ◼   ► know I know basically I'm really in the

01:48:24 ◼   ► minority amongst my friends but I just

01:48:27 ◼   ► let it do what it's doing I'm gonna

01:48:29 ◼   ► recommend next mind node which is a mind

01:48:33 ◼   ► mapping app which is the app that I use

01:48:35 ◼   ► to put together my thoughts on

01:48:38 ◼   ► the list of apps for today and it's

01:48:42 ◼   ► interesting cuz we did a show a while

01:48:43 ◼   ► ago where we both talked about how we

01:48:44 ◼   ► don't really use mind maps mm-hm and and

01:48:47 ◼   ► for me that is still true 99% of the

01:48:50 ◼   ► time like I just don't feel like a mind

01:48:52 ◼   ► map person but every once in a while it

01:48:57 ◼   ► feels like there's something I just kind

01:48:59 ◼   ► of want a mind map out I never really

01:49:02 ◼   ► used those mind maps later but there is

01:49:04 ◼   ► something that every once in a while I

01:49:06 ◼   ► feel like this is the appropriate way to

01:49:07 ◼   ► like think through a thing or for today

01:49:11 ◼   ► I decided to use the mind map because I

01:49:14 ◼   ► figured it's a it's going to be a more

01:49:17 ◼   ► condensed way to show all of the

01:49:19 ◼   ► information instead of having a list so

01:49:21 ◼   ► this way you might can just put a

01:49:23 ◼   ► screenshot in the show notes and instead

01:49:25 ◼   ► of having like a long list thing written

01:49:27 ◼   ► out but if you're going to use a mind

01:49:30 ◼   ► map I think my node is is the one to use

01:49:33 ◼   ► and particularly on iOS they have a

01:49:36 ◼   ► couple of features that are just

01:49:38 ◼   ► fantastic which al app which allows you

01:49:41 ◼   ► to act like you're typing a list but

01:49:44 ◼   ► have it go in mind map format

01:49:46 ◼   ► automatically so when you're on a branch

01:49:49 ◼   ► and you're you've written out the

01:49:51 ◼   ► category title like you just hit space

01:49:53 ◼   ► three times and then it goes and creates

01:49:56 ◼   ► a child branch and when you're on that

01:49:58 ◼   ► child branch and you're done typing you

01:50:00 ◼   ► just hit return three times and it

01:50:02 ◼   ► creates a sibling branch so there's a

01:50:04 ◼   ► really nice way if you're a very

01:50:05 ◼   ► keyboard focused person like myself it's

01:50:08 ◼   ► a super fast mind mapping application to

01:50:11 ◼   ► you so I really like it so I have an app

01:50:14 ◼   ► that I wanted to recommend called war

01:50:15 ◼   ► accounts plus plus and this is a worker

01:50:17 ◼   ► app and I will say like we said we were

01:50:19 ◼   ► over cost the developer of this app

01:50:21 ◼   ► David is a friend of mine and one of the

01:50:24 ◼   ► reasons that I want to recommend is

01:50:25 ◼   ► because of that because he's a friend I

01:50:28 ◼   ► was helping him test swimming

01:50:30 ◼   ► functionality that he was adding to the

01:50:31 ◼   ► app so I got to help tailor it to be the

01:50:37 ◼   ► type of design that I want so it's kind

01:50:40 ◼   ► of the perfect that for me went when

01:50:42 ◼   ► tracking my swims so that's why I love

01:50:46 ◼   ► it so much it is a workout app which is

01:50:49 ◼   ► really best with the Apple watch you

01:50:51 ◼   ► can create it was like a bunch of like

01:50:53 ◼   ► templates and you can adjust how you

01:50:55 ◼   ► want the information to be shown during

01:50:57 ◼   ► the workout so like you can show your

01:50:59 ◼   ► heart rate changes you can show the laps

01:51:01 ◼   ► to time and all that kind of stuff and

01:51:03 ◼   ► you can do this with loads of different

01:51:04 ◼   ► exercises but it means when I'm swimming

01:51:06 ◼   ► I get to see just the information that I

01:51:08 ◼   ► want to see mm-hmm

01:51:10 ◼   ► plus workouts plus plus has the ability

01:51:12 ◼   ► for you to integrate podcasts into it so

01:51:15 ◼   ► Johan that's nice listen to podcasts

01:51:18 ◼   ► with your air pods just from the watch

01:51:19 ◼   ► that's pretty sweet yeah this only

01:51:23 ◼   ► really works very well with workout

01:51:24 ◼   ► applications because they have to be

01:51:26 ◼   ► constantly running and that kind of

01:51:27 ◼   ► stuff but that has that future air pods

01:51:29 ◼   ► in while you're swimming has everybody

01:51:30 ◼   ► no I don't do that part but yes I like

01:51:34 ◼   ► to be able to have my when I'm swimming

01:51:38 ◼   ► alikes we have to see just the

01:51:38 ◼   ► information I want to see and I found

01:51:40 ◼   ► that Apple stuff while still good just

01:51:43 ◼   ► didn't give me everything I wanted and

01:51:44 ◼   ► one house plus plus does and it's I

01:51:47 ◼   ► think it's free so it's worth at least

01:51:48 ◼   ► trying out yeah I'll also recommend that

01:51:51 ◼   ► if you want to hear David and Marco talk

01:51:56 ◼   ► about their apps they have a show on

01:51:58 ◼   ► this very Network under the radar which

01:52:00 ◼   ► you should go listen to it's very good

01:52:02 ◼   ► and you should put that in the show

01:52:03 ◼   ► notes oh of course I will

01:52:05 ◼   ► so again to developers they make two

01:52:09 ◼   ► apps that we really like yes they are

01:52:11 ◼   ► friends but they are good apps and they

01:52:13 ◼   ► also have a podcast together and that

01:52:15 ◼   ► podcast isn't really a fan remember all

01:52:18 ◼   ► of that but both of these apps are free

01:52:20 ◼   ► so you've got nothing to lose when you

01:52:22 ◼   ► try them and then you'll know they're

01:52:23 ◼   ► great next thing I'm gonna recommend is

01:52:26 ◼   ► this is a little tip that I picked up

01:52:29 ◼   ► from while we're talking about relay

01:52:31 ◼   ► people Stephen Hackett you are a

01:52:33 ◼   ► co-founder he recommended to me at WWDC

01:52:37 ◼   ► a feature of Chrome on the Mac which I

01:52:41 ◼   ► did not know which I feel like is

01:52:43 ◼   ► life-changing and it's that chrome has

01:52:47 ◼   ► the ability to set up different user

01:52:49 ◼   ► profiles so that you can in chrome very

01:52:53 ◼   ► easily switch between a set of logged in

01:52:56 ◼   ► accounts and let me tell you as someone

01:53:00 ◼   ► who's trying to run a YouTube channel

01:53:03 ◼   ► and

01:53:04 ◼   ► a couple of podcasts and my own personal

01:53:08 ◼   ► life chrome when I'm sitting in front of

01:53:10 ◼   ► the Mac is the browser that I'm using

01:53:12 ◼   ► the vast majority of the time now and it

01:53:15 ◼   ► is solely because of this feature that I

01:53:17 ◼   ► can say very quickly switch between I am

01:53:21 ◼   ► just me as a person and use and have

01:53:24 ◼   ► this web browser logged in to all of my

01:53:26 ◼   ► personal accounts and now I am

01:53:28 ◼   ► officially CGP grey the YouTube person

01:53:31 ◼   ► so here's all of the accounts I need to

01:53:33 ◼   ► be logged in for that and the thing the

01:53:35 ◼   ► detail that makes this really really

01:53:37 ◼   ► great that Steven suggested is you can

01:53:40 ◼   ► have different custom visual themes for

01:53:44 ◼   ► these different profiles so when I am

01:53:47 ◼   ► logged into the most important accounts

01:53:49 ◼   ► as the CGP grey YouTube channel stuff

01:53:52 ◼   ► the whole Chrome web browser across the

01:53:55 ◼   ► top is red I say it is not possible to

01:53:59 ◼   ► make a mistake about like which account

01:54:01 ◼   ► am i logged into I really really love

01:54:04 ◼   ► this feature and if you're someone who

01:54:06 ◼   ► is using a bunch of different sets of

01:54:10 ◼   ► accounts or you're using a shared

01:54:12 ◼   ► computer in a family the profiles

01:54:14 ◼   ► feature on Chrome is is amazing I don't

01:54:16 ◼   ► use that but I do use Chrome but I know

01:54:19 ◼   ► why that would be great if you were

01:54:21 ◼   ► switching constantly I mean I just

01:54:22 ◼   ► whenever I'm posting I just using clean

01:54:24 ◼   ► neato mode and login but it's because I

01:54:26 ◼   ► don't need that access all the time but

01:54:29 ◼   ► I can see why that would be so useful

01:54:31 ◼   ► yeah it's it's great because it keeps

01:54:34 ◼   ► you logged in yeah guy used to log in

01:54:36 ◼   ► and log out of all the stuff but

01:54:37 ◼   ► particularly with YouTube where when you

01:54:40 ◼   ► log in on one count they want to log you

01:54:42 ◼   ► into a whole bunch of related services

01:54:43 ◼   ► it just it makes a big big difference

01:54:47 ◼   ► gbaud I use a third-party keyboard on my

01:54:54 ◼   ► iPhone lots of people think this is a

01:54:57 ◼   ► wild thing to do there are downsides to

01:55:00 ◼   ► it but honestly the upsides of FASTA

01:55:02 ◼   ► significant for me better all to correct

01:55:04 ◼   ► better emoji suggestions and emoji

01:55:07 ◼   ► search I can get gifts from my keyboard

01:55:08 ◼   ► and I can swipe type Apple can't beat

01:55:11 ◼   ► that in my opinion and I loved you board

01:55:13 ◼   ► and I've been using it as the only

01:55:14 ◼   ► keyboard on my iPhone for a very long

01:55:17 ◼   ► but I'm gonna back up that

01:55:19 ◼   ► recommendation uh

01:55:21 ◼   ► I started using G board a long time ago

01:55:24 ◼   ► on my iPad because I like swipe typing

01:55:28 ◼   ► with the pencil so I find it just easier

01:55:33 ◼   ► than try what if I'm using the pencil

01:55:35 ◼   ► element I've had I tend to want to use

01:55:37 ◼   ► the pencil for everything and tapping

01:55:39 ◼   ► out letters is really unpleasant to do

01:55:40 ◼   ► with the pencil so I started using

01:55:43 ◼   ► keyboard on the iPad pro so that I could

01:55:45 ◼   ► use the swipe typing and I really liked

01:55:47 ◼   ► it unfortunately there's a little bit of

01:55:49 ◼   ► bug with if you want to use a Dvorak

01:55:52 ◼   ► keyboard layout with the G board

01:55:54 ◼   ► keyboard installed on an iPad which is

01:55:56 ◼   ► sort of frustrating so I have to always

01:55:58 ◼   ► switch back into the regular iOS

01:56:00 ◼   ► keyboard to get that to work but I

01:56:02 ◼   ► really like it with the iPad and I've

01:56:04 ◼   ► been trying it on my phone the past

01:56:07 ◼   ► couple of weeks and I don't know if I'll

01:56:12 ◼   ► keep it but it's it's definitely worth

01:56:15 ◼   ► trying although for some reason I find

01:56:18 ◼   ► that the swipe typing with my thumb is

01:56:20 ◼   ► taking a little while to get used to

01:56:22 ◼   ► this it it's strange to do but it is

01:56:27 ◼   ► scary how good Google is at guessing

01:56:30 ◼   ► what you're what you're trying to type

01:56:31 ◼   ► you say scary I say really convenient

01:56:35 ◼   ► well what I mean what I mean scary

01:56:38 ◼   ► though like a thing that happened today

01:56:41 ◼   ► is I was swipe typing something and I

01:56:43 ◼   ► realized I had done it totally wrong and

01:56:45 ◼   ► I just thought I'm just gonna keep going

01:56:48 ◼   ► and like go back to the letters that it

01:56:50 ◼   ► was supposed to be so I I typed a seek

01:56:53 ◼   ► typed in quotes a sequence which is just

01:56:56 ◼   ► a nonsense sequence of work of letters

01:56:58 ◼   ► but Google was able to get it I'm like

01:57:01 ◼   ► oh we know what you were trying to say

01:57:02 ◼   ► and that's the situation where it's like

01:57:05 ◼   ► is is terrifyingly accurate because my

01:57:08 ◼   ► swiping was nonsense because I'd like

01:57:10 ◼   ► changed my mind halfway through about

01:57:12 ◼   ► what words I was trying to say like you

01:57:13 ◼   ► still did just fine

01:57:15 ◼   ► so again I'm not sure it will stay but I

01:57:18 ◼   ► can definitely back up your

01:57:19 ◼   ► recommendation that it is worth trying

01:57:21 ◼   ► and it's interesting I do want to

01:57:23 ◼   ► recommend nap that I completely forgot I

01:57:25 ◼   ► used until I had to set up two new

01:57:28 ◼   ► systems where I hadn't installed it and

01:57:30 ◼   ► that is one blocker which is one of the

01:57:33 ◼   ► ad blockers for iOS and for Mac I had

01:57:38 ◼   ► just installed this and forgotten about

01:57:39 ◼   ► it a long time ago and I had to recently

01:57:42 ◼   ► redo a couple of my systems and I was

01:57:46 ◼   ► feeling like why is the Internet such a

01:57:48 ◼   ► terrible experience and then probably

01:57:50 ◼   ► alright because I haven't installed that

01:57:52 ◼   ► ad blocker and so one blocker is a

01:57:56 ◼   ► really nice ad blocker not least of

01:57:58 ◼   ► which because you can set a lot of

01:57:59 ◼   ► customization to it and you can also do

01:58:01 ◼   ► things like block URLs that you want to

01:58:04 ◼   ► specify or if you're into like regex

01:58:06 ◼   ► rules like that's a thing that you can

01:58:08 ◼   ► do so it's a really great ad blocker I

01:58:12 ◼   ► don't use any blockers anyway learn

01:58:15 ◼   ► anything well you're a better person

01:58:18 ◼   ► than I am

01:58:19 ◼   ► no I don't think that's the case and I

01:58:20 ◼   ► don't think it's any kind of like and

01:58:23 ◼   ► I'm not trying to make any kind of

01:58:24 ◼   ► political statement I have just found

01:58:27 ◼   ► that like they just randomly break

01:58:30 ◼   ► things and I find it frustrating to be

01:58:33 ◼   ► like all something isn't working Oh

01:58:36 ◼   ► might be because of my ad blocker and

01:58:37 ◼   ► I've gotten pretty I think I have been

01:58:39 ◼   ► on the internet for long enough that

01:58:41 ◼   ► I've gotten pretty good at ignoring ads

01:58:42 ◼   ► where I don't want to see them I've I

01:58:45 ◼   ► have the ad blindness you know like I

01:58:47 ◼   ► can look at a page and I should never

01:58:49 ◼   ► see him so you know I'm fine with it

01:58:52 ◼   ► again like and I'm really not trying to

01:58:54 ◼   ► be like oh but I also use Chrome as well

01:58:57 ◼   ► on my on my iOS devices so I can't even

01:59:00 ◼   ► use an app block or an iOS even if I

01:59:02 ◼   ► wanted to so there's a bunch of reasons

01:59:04 ◼   ► but like I'm not trying to make a

01:59:06 ◼   ► political stand I've just never really

01:59:07 ◼   ► gotten into it I do use a blocker I

01:59:12 ◼   ► think it's called like cookie box or

01:59:14 ◼   ► something like that I'll find it I'll

01:59:16 ◼   ► put it in the show notes and it stops

01:59:18 ◼   ► those European Union cookie consent

01:59:20 ◼   ► thing because that is like not helpful

01:59:26 ◼   ► to anyone and I have so like this is

01:59:29 ◼   ► mainly good for me because if I ever am

01:59:31 ◼   ► in Safari it's not a browser I use

01:59:33 ◼   ► frequently so I see those things

01:59:35 ◼   ► everywhere but then I have this blocker

01:59:37 ◼   ► that just blocks those pop-ups right

01:59:40 ◼   ► right

01:59:41 ◼   ► yeah that's good that's good my last

01:59:43 ◼   ► recommendation

01:59:44 ◼   ► for today i want to be p calc for two

01:59:47 ◼   ► reasons it's my favourite calculator app

01:59:49 ◼   ► i love it it's a great calculator app

01:59:51 ◼   ► I'm going to say three reasons I can

01:59:54 ◼   ► change to a many different icons so I

01:59:57 ◼   ► can have a fun icon and also it has a

01:59:59 ◼   ► game

01:59:59 ◼   ► game

00:00:00 ◼   ► where in the world is Mike Hurley well

00:00:02 ◼   ► it depends who are you talking to Mike

00:00:04 ◼   ► Hurley Oh the body is ah in London all

00:00:09 ◼   ► right right okay yeah I know this Mike

00:00:11 ◼   ► Hurley the kind of the general spirit

00:00:13 ◼   ► and consciousness is stuck somewhere

00:00:15 ◼   ► over the Atlantic Ocean right that Mike

00:00:19 ◼   ► early is still catching up with this

00:00:20 ◼   ► Mike early yeah can't be here

00:00:23 ◼   ► just in time for it to change again so

00:00:25 ◼   ► oh good

00:00:27 ◼   ► okay very excited about perfect so here

00:00:31 ◼   ► you're in that in-between time then one

00:00:33 ◼   ► trip is over and another trip will start

00:00:36 ◼   ► just as just as you've adjusted that's

00:00:38 ◼   ► the best that's that is just the best

00:00:42 ◼   ► yeah I've been tracing that feeling for

00:00:44 ◼   ► about three months I was I've had a lot

00:00:46 ◼   ► of really great travel this back end of

00:00:49 ◼   ► the year

00:00:49 ◼   ► mm-hmm but it's it has thrown my body

00:00:52 ◼   ► clock through a loop I just got back

00:00:55 ◼   ► from Seattle

00:00:55 ◼   ► yesterday from podcast from pod con it

00:00:59 ◼   ► happened

00:01:00 ◼   ► and I got back yesterday and I managed

00:01:03 ◼   ► to stay awake I've gotten pretty good at

00:01:05 ◼   ► staying awake when I get home and then I

00:01:09 ◼   ► just hate when did you have really bad

00:01:12 ◼   ► jet lag when you wake up the next

00:01:14 ◼   ► morning and feel worse yeah but when I

00:01:17 ◼   ► went to sleep and that was how I felt

00:01:19 ◼   ► today yeah I'm with you there so I'm

00:01:23 ◼   ► drinking a smoothie right now called

00:01:25 ◼   ► vitamin power ooh and I'm hoping that

00:01:29 ◼   ► that will get me through yeah

00:01:31 ◼   ► I have often found that the jet lag kind

00:01:34 ◼   ► of tricks you I'm often very optimistic

00:01:37 ◼   ► the first day I get back I feel like oh

00:01:39 ◼   ► don't do it really well

00:01:41 ◼   ► but like oh the jet lag is actually just

00:01:43 ◼   ► it's just winding up for day two okay

00:01:46 ◼   ► like oh I feel always day two your day

00:01:48 ◼   ► was my worst is night three hmm

00:01:52 ◼   ► night three I need to clear the schedule

00:01:55 ◼   ► for day four because night three means

00:01:57 ◼   ► Mike will not sleep yeah and tends to be

00:02:02 ◼   ► what happens to me so I've got no sleep

00:02:05 ◼   ► coming in a couple of days so that we

00:02:06 ◼   ► found this is the thing with travel

00:02:08 ◼   ► especially very long travel like if

00:02:10 ◼   ► you're going from London to the west

00:02:12 ◼   ► coast's

00:02:13 ◼   ► back again is it's it's really gotta be

00:02:18 ◼   ► worth it to do that trip

00:02:19 ◼   ► and you were going out to a pod con the

00:02:23 ◼   ► first pod con no one had ever been to a

00:02:26 ◼   ► pod con before was it worth it Mike was

00:02:30 ◼   ► it worth the jet lag without a shadow of

00:02:32 ◼   ► a doubt oh great yeah it was fantastic I

00:02:37 ◼   ► would do it again I'll do it again next

00:02:40 ◼   ► week if there was one next week I had

00:02:42 ◼   ► such a good time at probably the best

00:02:47 ◼   ► organized conference I've ever been to

00:02:49 ◼   ► well you know the Greens they have some

00:02:51 ◼   ► experience with organizing conferences

00:02:53 ◼   ► they know what's going on a put a few

00:02:55 ◼   ► together in their day yeah yeah I've

00:02:56 ◼   ► never been to VidCon but I could what I

00:02:59 ◼   ► could feel was happening was VidCon

00:03:01 ◼   ► moved to Seattle it was just an

00:03:06 ◼   ► incredibly well oiled machine everything

00:03:09 ◼   ► was taken care of

00:03:11 ◼   ► like every event that I had to go to

00:03:14 ◼   ► there was someone to take me there and

00:03:15 ◼   ► pick me up

00:03:16 ◼   ► like it was yeah it was amazing I was so

00:03:21 ◼   ► blown away by like how all of the

00:03:24 ◼   ► details were taken care of and it you

00:03:26 ◼   ► know made me smile everyone was wearing

00:03:28 ◼   ► radios right like it was just like a

00:03:29 ◼   ► whole big to-do it was very very well

00:03:32 ◼   ► put together that's really great to hear

00:03:34 ◼   ► it's it's one of those things where I

00:03:36 ◼   ► was I was not able to attend this year

00:03:38 ◼   ► like I wanted to go and I wasn't able to

00:03:40 ◼   ► go partly because my travel schedule has

00:03:44 ◼   ► also been crazy this year and I was I

00:03:45 ◼   ► was watching I was watching with some

00:03:47 ◼   ► sadness people on Twitter like seeming

00:03:49 ◼   ► to be having a great time at pot god I

00:03:50 ◼   ► was like oh I'm over here not able to be

00:03:53 ◼   ► there at pod con it was a great time it

00:03:55 ◼   ► was really good

00:03:56 ◼   ► remind me again like what were your

00:03:57 ◼   ► responsibilities at pod con you did a

00:03:59 ◼   ► panel is that right I had four events

00:04:03 ◼   ► for okay in total I had a panel about

00:04:08 ◼   ► networks there's some amazing people I

00:04:11 ◼   ► had what's called a podcast scramble

00:04:14 ◼   ► scramble yeah it's where they put two

00:04:16 ◼   ► podcast hosts that have never worked

00:04:18 ◼   ► together before together and you make a

00:04:20 ◼   ► show about anything like speed pod

00:04:23 ◼   ► Mike's big podcast dating yes but

00:04:26 ◼   ► the date happens in front of an audience

00:04:29 ◼   ► okay you have to do the podcasts just

00:04:32 ◼   ► live like what is line to a 15-minute

00:04:34 ◼   ► show yes a 25-minute show in front of an

00:04:36 ◼   ► audience do you know who you're going to

00:04:39 ◼   ► be scrambled with ahead of time yes we

00:04:41 ◼   ► knew we knew vastly ahead of time so we

00:04:44 ◼   ► were able to talk around together yeah I

00:04:46 ◼   ► wouldn't do the other one because that

00:04:47 ◼   ► sounds like hell like I'm just I'm just

00:04:50 ◼   ► trying to imagine what like maybe from

00:04:52 ◼   ► an audience perspective it would be

00:04:54 ◼   ► amazing great to have these two people

00:04:56 ◼   ► walk out on stage who don't know that

00:04:59 ◼   ► they're going to meet and then the

00:05:00 ◼   ► audience just screams entertain us right

00:05:02 ◼   ► and they have to do it like that could

00:05:03 ◼   ► be great from a watchin perspective

00:05:05 ◼   ► before very many reasons with every one

00:05:07 ◼   ► of these scrambles would be the same

00:05:09 ◼   ► house Park home for you that's how every

00:05:11 ◼   ► single one of them would go right it's

00:05:13 ◼   ► how they would all start house l-pod

00:05:14 ◼   ► Kahn now that's not a podcast then

00:05:17 ◼   ► you're just talking to the audience it's

00:05:18 ◼   ► a podcast if there's two people talking

00:05:19 ◼   ► to each other that's oh the audience can

00:05:21 ◼   ► yell at them and say no you're breaking

00:05:23 ◼   ► the rules this isn't a podcast this is

00:05:24 ◼   ► just a show I don't think I like the CGP

00:05:26 ◼   ► grey organized pod con very much well

00:05:29 ◼   ► this is why I didn't and shouldn't

00:05:32 ◼   ► organize any kind of conference there

00:05:35 ◼   ► there are many things people don't want

00:05:36 ◼   ► me to do one one of the things highest

00:05:39 ◼   ► on that list almost certainly would be

00:05:40 ◼   ► trying to organize any kind of

00:05:41 ◼   ► conference I'm always I'm always amazed

00:05:44 ◼   ► at these things and there is there is no

00:05:46 ◼   ► ability for me to put this stuff

00:05:47 ◼   ► together so no okay but so it was panel

00:05:50 ◼   ► mm-hmm scramble mm-hmm what we have the

00:05:53 ◼   ► to create a chat which leader chat

00:05:55 ◼   ► believe is something that happens at

00:05:57 ◼   ► VidCon yes yeah it does and this is

00:05:59 ◼   ► where like I sat down with a group of 12

00:06:02 ◼   ► people who I think were all mostly

00:06:06 ◼   ► podcasters themselves and they were just

00:06:10 ◼   ► asking me questions about what my

00:06:12 ◼   ► opinions were on things and the way that

00:06:14 ◼   ► I do things still like that that was

00:06:15 ◼   ► really fun

00:06:16 ◼   ► and then my signing was there was the

00:06:19 ◼   ► fourth and final thing the first three

00:06:21 ◼   ► things will happen on Saturday and my

00:06:23 ◼   ► signing happened on Sunday which was

00:06:25 ◼   ► both a blessing and a curse because I

00:06:27 ◼   ► feel like Saturday lost lost for two

00:06:29 ◼   ► days it felt like but then I have the

00:06:32 ◼   ► impending doom of signing hanging over

00:06:35 ◼   ► me

00:06:37 ◼   ► than concern the signing that you were

00:06:40 ◼   ► going to bribe people to come to you

00:06:41 ◼   ► with your poster yeah okay well tell us

00:06:45 ◼   ► Mike how was the signing the signing was

00:06:51 ◼   ► very overwhelming for me okay because

00:06:56 ◼   ► there were a lot of people there I don't

00:07:00 ◼   ► know exactly how many but I know it was

00:07:03 ◼   ► more than anybody was prepared for

00:07:06 ◼   ► because we needed another second

00:07:10 ◼   ► volunteer to come and help out and also

00:07:15 ◼   ► I realized that I don't know how

00:07:20 ◼   ► signings work and I wasn't really sure

00:07:26 ◼   ► what I was supposed to do so like I have

00:07:29 ◼   ► my box of posters in under my arm and I

00:07:34 ◼   ► was standing behind a black curtain okay

00:07:38 ◼   ► they did that set up right yeah I know I

00:07:40 ◼   ► know this set up yep through the curtain

00:07:43 ◼   ► and there was significantly more people

00:07:45 ◼   ► sitting there than I expected they made

00:07:49 ◼   ► noises and then I put the Box down on

00:07:53 ◼   ► the table and I said hello and didn't

00:07:56 ◼   ► know what to do next and no one was

00:07:59 ◼   ► there to tell me so I sat down and then

00:08:04 ◼   ► the the volunteer was like because this

00:08:06 ◼   ► is a great thing I didn't expect which

00:08:08 ◼   ► which shows the organisation happening

00:08:11 ◼   ► behind the scenes I expected to just see

00:08:14 ◼   ► a line of people just lining up mm-hm

00:08:17 ◼   ► but what they do is they sit everybody

00:08:19 ◼   ► down in front of you almost like

00:08:20 ◼   ► audience style and then bring people up

00:08:24 ◼   ► line by line and they just have one row

00:08:26 ◼   ► lining up at a time so it means the

00:08:29 ◼   ► people that are waiting aren't just

00:08:30 ◼   ► standing around they're sitting down

00:08:31 ◼   ► like that's a really smart way to do

00:08:34 ◼   ► this I just assumed that they would just

00:08:36 ◼   ► be like a snaking line of people it's

00:08:40 ◼   ► very uncomfortable to stand exact or as

00:08:42 ◼   ► long as for as long as much as much time

00:08:44 ◼   ► as it's going to take yep to see it Mike

00:08:46 ◼   ► Hurley apparently well it did take a

00:08:48 ◼   ► long time for some people unfortunately

00:08:51 ◼   ► I had an hour right that was my allotted

00:08:53 ◼   ► time so I figured I just started and

00:08:58 ◼   ► people came over and I would say like hi

00:09:00 ◼   ► hello how are you like I was able I got

00:09:02 ◼   ► good at reading people's names from

00:09:04 ◼   ► their nametags so I could start writing

00:09:06 ◼   ► the name stands I like write little name

00:09:07 ◼   ► then write the name on the poster that

00:09:09 ◼   ► could ask them where they wanted me to

00:09:10 ◼   ► sign it because there wasn't like an

00:09:11 ◼   ► obvious place I ended up working out the

00:09:14 ◼   ► obvious place on the poster I'm gonna

00:09:16 ◼   ► put a link in by the way to the poster

00:09:18 ◼   ► in the show notes I'll talk about the

00:09:19 ◼   ► poster again in a minute but just so you

00:09:20 ◼   ► could see it and I was writing it kind

00:09:22 ◼   ► of like around the chair there's like a

00:09:24 ◼   ► chair and the person it's like a white

00:09:25 ◼   ► space was writing it they're like thanks

00:09:27 ◼   ► so much for coming but alas since people

00:09:29 ◼   ► like how are you enjoying the how you

00:09:31 ◼   ► drawing pod con that kind of thing

00:09:33 ◼   ► people would you if you have something

00:09:34 ◼   ► that they wanted to say to me that was

00:09:36 ◼   ► great moving through people was having a

00:09:38 ◼   ► great time it felt really cool taking

00:09:40 ◼   ► some pictures then a little while goes

00:09:43 ◼   ► by I don't even check my watch like I'm

00:09:47 ◼   ► just completely focused on what's going

00:09:49 ◼   ► on oh yeah I'm just going through these

00:09:54 ◼   ► things getting the PO sign it like this

00:09:57 ◼   ► the volunteer comes up to me and she

00:10:00 ◼   ► says I just want to let you know that

00:10:03 ◼   ► you've run through half of your time but

00:10:05 ◼   ► a quarter of the people oh god okay so I

00:10:14 ◼   ► was like right okay then so I just tried

00:10:17 ◼   ► to start speeding up a little bit

00:10:18 ◼   ► speeding up a little bit I was kind of

00:10:21 ◼   ► getting to the point where like I

00:10:22 ◼   ► figured I think the thing that's taking

00:10:24 ◼   ► me the longest amount of time he's

00:10:26 ◼   ► writing out an individual note on

00:10:27 ◼   ► everyone's posters which was what I

00:10:29 ◼   ► wanted to do but couldn't so I was just

00:10:32 ◼   ► like writing people's names down signing

00:10:33 ◼   ► it taking pictures that kind of thing a

00:10:34 ◼   ► little while past this more and she

00:10:37 ◼   ► comes up to me again she's like you're

00:10:38 ◼   ► gonna have to speed up because the

00:10:40 ◼   ► McIlroy Brothers are next right and like

00:10:44 ◼   ► people are starting to arrive for their

00:10:46 ◼   ► signing right right so and so then it's

00:10:50 ◼   ► continue to go through continue to go

00:10:52 ◼   ► through and now I noticed something

00:10:53 ◼   ► changed in the audience we're like what

00:10:58 ◼   ► was happening was people would come and

00:11:00 ◼   ► then I would sign the poster if they

00:11:01 ◼   ► wanted a picture the volunteer would

00:11:04 ◼   ► take the picture

00:11:04 ◼   ► so like beforehand they would give her

00:11:07 ◼   ► their phone she would take the picture

00:11:09 ◼   ► and go then I noticed something change

00:11:11 ◼   ► where like other people in the line were

00:11:15 ◼   ► taking pictures for them and I was at

00:11:18 ◼   ► first I thought all these are just all

00:11:19 ◼   ► friends but then like that person would

00:11:22 ◼   ► take and then look and then while I what

00:11:24 ◼   ► I realized it happened is that the

00:11:25 ◼   ► volunteer had said to people you can

00:11:27 ◼   ► choose something signed or a picture so

00:11:31 ◼   ► that the attendees were going rogue and

00:11:36 ◼   ► taking pictures for each other right but

00:11:39 ◼   ► I see the thing was what ended up being

00:11:41 ◼   ► the best move was to ask for the picture

00:11:44 ◼   ► because I was making sure every person

00:11:46 ◼   ► left with a poster because that's right

00:11:48 ◼   ► that was the deal we made right yeah

00:11:50 ◼   ► nobody knew this but that was the deal

00:11:52 ◼   ► that me and you the listener made so

00:11:54 ◼   ► like if they took it I would just screw

00:11:55 ◼   ► by my name on it and like just throw it

00:11:57 ◼   ► right I got through everybody I thought

00:12:01 ◼   ► I was going to die

00:12:03 ◼   ► and like the volunteer came up to me

00:12:05 ◼   ► afterwards she was like thank you so

00:12:07 ◼   ► much you were amazing and we were not

00:12:10 ◼   ► expecting this amount of people so great

00:12:13 ◼   ► the bribery worked uh-huh maybe a little

00:12:16 ◼   ► too well

00:12:16 ◼   ► maybe a little too it I would say for me

00:12:18 ◼   ► personally it worked great because I

00:12:22 ◼   ► didn't walk out to just five people who

00:12:24 ◼   ► were my friends that was a great moment

00:12:26 ◼   ► they were like five of my friends were

00:12:28 ◼   ► in the audience and they all lined up

00:12:30 ◼   ► basically they came over we just took a

00:12:32 ◼   ► picture and I told him to get the heck

00:12:33 ◼   ► out of there and like and I I could feel

00:12:35 ◼   ► the happiness from the volunteer who was

00:12:37 ◼   ► trying to deal with this as I knocked

00:12:39 ◼   ► out half of a line in two seconds all

00:12:43 ◼   ► right I know I just gave them their

00:12:44 ◼   ► posters because they were just there for

00:12:46 ◼   ► me in case nobody showed up right it was

00:12:49 ◼   ► my backup plan so the volunteers

00:12:51 ◼   ► thinking oh this guy is a real pro he's

00:12:53 ◼   ► gonna get through this line in no time

00:12:55 ◼   ► at all little did they know what was

00:12:57 ◼   ► actually about to happen oh yeah I

00:12:58 ◼   ► thought of it that way yeah they're like

00:13:00 ◼   ► oh man this guy's great he must do this

00:13:02 ◼   ► all the time because like it's full

00:13:05 ◼   ► right so they're like well if this is

00:13:06 ◼   ► full he must have done this before

00:13:08 ◼   ► yeah turn it on so that's why you didn't

00:13:11 ◼   ► get a warning until half the time was

00:13:12 ◼   ► gone because they were thinking out at

00:13:14 ◼   ► any moment he's gonna get back into the

00:13:15 ◼   ► groove of it

00:13:16 ◼   ► and then there was Mannix was no groove

00:13:18 ◼   ► no curves no groove they need like I

00:13:23 ◼   ► feel like it like and running you have a

00:13:24 ◼   ► like a pacer runner right I feel like

00:13:27 ◼   ► they need some kind of mechanism to

00:13:29 ◼   ► visually indicate to you if you are on

00:13:32 ◼   ► ahead or behind schedule like some kind

00:13:35 ◼   ► of visual pacing mechanism like they

00:13:38 ◼   ► could build like a assigning robot which

00:13:40 ◼   ► is signing a pace I got like a pace

00:13:42 ◼   ► robot and that's it and I've got to kind

00:13:44 ◼   ► of match the pace of the robot that sits

00:13:45 ◼   ► next to me yeah I think that that would

00:13:47 ◼   ► probably make it feel just as as

00:13:49 ◼   ► personal and non mechanical to the

00:13:52 ◼   ► people coming to see you for the signing

00:13:54 ◼   ► maybe I'm not here I'm not here to help

00:14:02 ◼   ► you out with this I just I don't think

00:14:04 ◼   ► the pacing robot is is good I'm just

00:14:06 ◼   ► thinking like behind the line just a

00:14:08 ◼   ► light that's in your field division that

00:14:10 ◼   ► you can see that's you know green yellow

00:14:11 ◼   ► or red for how well you're doing that's

00:14:13 ◼   ► that's that's what they need I want to

00:14:15 ◼   ► get real for a second and just I want to

00:14:18 ◼   ► thank everybody that did come to the

00:14:19 ◼   ► signing and I think pretty much all of

00:14:21 ◼   ► those people listened to cortex

00:14:22 ◼   ► everybody told me that they loved the

00:14:24 ◼   ► show and it was gray a real life moment

00:14:28 ◼   ► for me honestly because I wasn't

00:14:31 ◼   ► expecting a lot well one thing I forgot

00:14:33 ◼   ► to tell you so I'm I am like in the kind

00:14:36 ◼   ► of the green room I'm getting ready to

00:14:39 ◼   ► go and I'm kind of a nervous wreck I

00:14:41 ◼   ► don't know what what's waiting for me

00:14:43 ◼   ► right and then somebody sent me a tweet

00:14:45 ◼   ► this is like 20 minutes before my

00:14:47 ◼   ► signing that there were 50 people in the

00:14:49 ◼   ► line at that point that made me feel

00:14:52 ◼   ► very uncomfortable hot because like at

00:14:55 ◼   ► that point that's already like maybe 10

00:14:58 ◼   ► times more people than I expected we're

00:14:59 ◼   ► gonna be there right so the whole

00:15:02 ◼   ► situation is something that I will never

00:15:05 ◼   ► forget because it was comply commotion

00:15:08 ◼   ► Allah overwhelming so yeah thank you if

00:15:12 ◼   ► you came it was it was amazing it really

00:15:16 ◼   ► was just amazing a guy I couldn't

00:15:18 ◼   ► believe it it was brilliant

00:15:20 ◼   ► oh I signed a bunch of phones this year

00:15:23 ◼   ► yeah yeah two iPhones to Google pixels

00:15:27 ◼   ► the pixels of that sign on

00:15:29 ◼   ► are they yeah something about the

00:15:31 ◼   ► aluminium in them like the weights

00:15:33 ◼   ► it was way nicer somebody had me sign an

00:15:35 ◼   ► iPhone 4 which was a disaster cause it's

00:15:37 ◼   ► glass so this cannot be science I signed

00:15:42 ◼   ► some beard oil okay alright I was I was

00:15:45 ◼   ► one I was wondering I thought like some

00:15:47 ◼   ► cortex listener is going to bring beard

00:15:49 ◼   ► oil yeah someone brought beard oil and

00:15:51 ◼   ► one person brought a safety razor

00:15:53 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:15:56 ◼   ► t-shirts sound a couple of t-shirts

00:15:59 ◼   ► stuff like that but yeah the the beard

00:16:02 ◼   ► oil and the safety razor were hilarious

00:16:03 ◼   ► the t-shirts really are the hardest

00:16:05 ◼   ► thing designs so there's one very smart

00:16:08 ◼   ► person brought their own fabric pen mm

00:16:11 ◼   ► cuz I need sharpies sharpies they're a

00:16:13 ◼   ► disaster yeah sure a sharpie trying to

00:16:15 ◼   ► sign a t-shirt it doesn't work it's

00:16:17 ◼   ► terrible you you need if you're gonna

00:16:19 ◼   ► have a even try to sign a t-shirt with a

00:16:22 ◼   ► sharpie you need three people you need

00:16:24 ◼   ► the signer yep and you need two people

00:16:26 ◼   ► to hold tight the shirt in place in

00:16:30 ◼   ► order to even have a chance though you

00:16:32 ◼   ► need like a medieval rack to put yeah

00:16:35 ◼   ► that's that's 100% the only thing that

00:16:39 ◼   ► can keep it taut enough so you can

00:16:41 ◼   ► actually make the Sharpie make any kind

00:16:42 ◼   ► of imprint it's just like I know before

00:16:47 ◼   ► having ever done these things in my head

00:16:48 ◼   ► I think like Oh t-shirts seem like oh

00:16:49 ◼   ► there must be so that like the best

00:16:51 ◼   ► design write it easy to bring you know

00:16:53 ◼   ► it's like now they're the worst that the

00:16:54 ◼   ► absolute worst yeah it was I remember

00:16:57 ◼   ► the first time I signed his he chefs

00:16:59 ◼   ► like years ago and it was someone was

00:17:01 ◼   ► wearing the t-shirt there's a nightmare

00:17:04 ◼   ► it looks like it was signed by somebody

00:17:06 ◼   ► who's never held a pen before this just

00:17:10 ◼   ► it's just the worst just a bunch of

00:17:12 ◼   ► horrible lines I'm really glad to hear

00:17:16 ◼   ► that the signing went well and and you

00:17:19 ◼   ► know those things can be it it's such a

00:17:25 ◼   ► there's such strange moments that it's

00:17:28 ◼   ► hard to express what it's really like so

00:17:31 ◼   ► but like I get what you mean when you

00:17:32 ◼   ► say it's emotionally overwhelming

00:17:33 ◼   ► because you have this thing where it's

00:17:34 ◼   ► all of these people are here because

00:17:36 ◼   ► they've listened to you on a podcast for

00:17:40 ◼   ► you know you listen listen to you on

00:17:41 ◼   ► many podcast from

00:17:43 ◼   ► hours and you know they're coming up and

00:17:46 ◼   ► they want to say something to you and

00:17:47 ◼   ► you're signing these things and then

00:17:49 ◼   ► there is also like what makes it

00:17:51 ◼   ► draining is this there's like there's a

00:17:53 ◼   ► time constraint or there's a number of

00:17:55 ◼   ► people and you want to make sure that

00:17:57 ◼   ► everybody is as happy as you can

00:17:58 ◼   ► possibly make them but you also have

00:17:59 ◼   ► these constraints in the world like it's

00:18:02 ◼   ► it's a it's a strange situation that

00:18:06 ◼   ► that can be overwhelming on a whole

00:18:09 ◼   ► bunch of different levels did you have

00:18:10 ◼   ► to do anything immediately after the

00:18:12 ◼   ► signing or could you go just collapse on

00:18:14 ◼   ► the floor no I was ended up being very

00:18:17 ◼   ► happy that I only had that to do on

00:18:18 ◼   ► Sunday yeah right like at first I was

00:18:21 ◼   ► like but like I'm so busy on Saturday

00:18:23 ◼   ► but like no I needed the rest of Sunday

00:18:25 ◼   ► to just sit and just try and rebuild yep

00:18:30 ◼   ► yep there were two other things about

00:18:32 ◼   ► puck on that I wanted to mention one was

00:18:35 ◼   ► the feeling of the conference and the

00:18:36 ◼   ► audience and the attendees there was a

00:18:39 ◼   ► feeling of just like nice nice and warm

00:18:42 ◼   ► and like appreciation that I've never

00:18:46 ◼   ► felt any conference before everybody

00:18:50 ◼   ► just seemed to be really nice and having

00:18:52 ◼   ► a good time and that was amazing do you

00:18:55 ◼   ► think it was partly like a because I'm

00:18:57 ◼   ► thinking like you know we've been at

00:18:58 ◼   ► WWDC together and do you think that's

00:19:01 ◼   ► just because it gets much smaller than

00:19:03 ◼   ► WWDC is you know because WWDC is like

00:19:06 ◼   ► you know last year in particular it's

00:19:08 ◼   ► like oh the entire city of San Jose is

00:19:11 ◼   ► now WWDC Disney and like that's that's a

00:19:14 ◼   ► very particular feeling like an entire

00:19:16 ◼   ► city has taken over a place like okay so

00:19:19 ◼   ► Louis what's the comparison in your mind

00:19:21 ◼   ► between those two there's no cynicism

00:19:24 ◼   ► but popcorn hmm right everyone's just

00:19:29 ◼   ► super excited and happy to be there but

00:19:32 ◼   ► and like at something like a WWDC

00:19:35 ◼   ► there's there's always like a level of

00:19:38 ◼   ► people and and I'm not talking about

00:19:39 ◼   ► like if we do meetups or whatever it's

00:19:42 ◼   ► very similar to my experience at pod Con

00:19:45 ◼   ► but like the overall feeling of the

00:19:48 ◼   ► conference I've never felt something

00:19:51 ◼   ► like this where like everyone was like

00:19:54 ◼   ► super happy you know there are a bunch

00:19:56 ◼   ► of people in cause

00:19:56 ◼   ► play there are like fan like attendee

00:20:02 ◼   ► generated meetups that were like

00:20:04 ◼   ► official on the program whenever like

00:20:08 ◼   ► anybody goes onto a stage everyone goes

00:20:11 ◼   ► crazy for them like there was just like

00:20:13 ◼   ► a general feeling of like everyone that

00:20:15 ◼   ► is there is super excited and happy to

00:20:18 ◼   ► see the thing that they love well like

00:20:21 ◼   ► other conferences you there can be like

00:20:23 ◼   ► apathy to people that come out on stage

00:20:26 ◼   ► because you don't know who they are or

00:20:28 ◼   ► like it's something like a Dobby WC

00:20:30 ◼   ► there's a real mix of like just general

00:20:32 ◼   ► feelings towards what's happening at the

00:20:34 ◼   ► conference and that didn't feel like

00:20:37 ◼   ► that with pod con so I guess you're

00:20:38 ◼   ► saying that if they do it again next

00:20:39 ◼   ► year you'd go to be the hundred percent

00:20:42 ◼   ► because I also had the experience of

00:20:44 ◼   ► being a fan myself seeing some of my

00:20:46 ◼   ► favorite podcasts like there were

00:20:49 ◼   ► podcasts that I adore that were on Sage

00:20:52 ◼   ► and I got to sit in the audience and

00:20:54 ◼   ► watch them it was fantastic I really

00:20:57 ◼   ► really enjoyed that and it was all just

00:21:00 ◼   ► in this one event I would 100% go and I

00:21:02 ◼   ► would just say nobody's asked me to say

00:21:04 ◼   ► this great but it is possible still to

00:21:07 ◼   ► sign up to get a remote attendee ticket

00:21:10 ◼   ► which is audio of panels and stuff like

00:21:13 ◼   ► that and I believe that the podcast

00:21:15 ◼   ► scramble and the panel that I did about

00:21:18 ◼   ► podcast networks will be available to

00:21:20 ◼   ► people to listen to I think it's like

00:21:22 ◼   ► thirty dollars for a remote attendants

00:21:24 ◼   ► but there was a ton of fantastic panels

00:21:27 ◼   ► across the whole weekend some that I'm

00:21:30 ◼   ► looking forward to hearing again or some

00:21:32 ◼   ► that I missed so you can still go and

00:21:34 ◼   ► get that and you can get a lot of the

00:21:36 ◼   ► value if you're looking to learn some

00:21:37 ◼   ► stuff or if you're looking to be

00:21:39 ◼   ► entertained from that so I just wanted

00:21:41 ◼   ► to mention that because there was so

00:21:42 ◼   ► much great stuff there and if you

00:21:43 ◼   ► couldn't make it and or if this now

00:21:45 ◼   ► sounds interesting to you and you're

00:21:47 ◼   ► like ah man I wish I would have been now

00:21:49 ◼   ► you can still get some of that stuff you

00:21:51 ◼   ► still get some other feelings oh that's

00:21:54 ◼   ► interesting

00:21:54 ◼   ► I've I haven't come across this idea of

00:21:56 ◼   ► a remote me and uh ticket before but it

00:21:59 ◼   ► makes so much sense considering it was a

00:22:00 ◼   ► podcast convention that you would have

00:22:02 ◼   ► audio available afterwards it's like

00:22:06 ◼   ► could this be more thematically on

00:22:08 ◼   ► target I think not

00:22:10 ◼   ► that's a really it's a really

00:22:11 ◼   ► interesting idea to do the remote

00:22:12 ◼   ► attendants ticket I will be looking

00:22:15 ◼   ► forward to hearing hearing your panel

00:22:17 ◼   ► mm-hmm and hearing your scramble

00:22:19 ◼   ► scramble something about the word man I

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00:24:54 ◼   ► good yeah since the beginning of the

00:24:56 ◼   ► show people have been asking for us to

00:24:59 ◼   ► talk about what we're gonna talk about

00:25:00 ◼   ► today you wrote a blog post hyping it up

00:25:05 ◼   ► Mike

00:25:05 ◼   ► he wrote a blind I am you wrote a blog

00:25:06 ◼   ► post in 2014 called state of the apps

00:25:09 ◼   ► yeah in which you kind of went through

00:25:12 ◼   ► in a bunch of different categories some

00:25:14 ◼   ► tools that you use and you wanted to

00:25:16 ◼   ► share them so when people started asking

00:25:18 ◼   ► me for this and it was a lot right like

00:25:21 ◼   ► I was getting a lot and still do I

00:25:23 ◼   ► always regret writing that article I had

00:25:28 ◼   ► assumed that you were writing it every

00:25:31 ◼   ► year yeah that was the intention because

00:25:34 ◼   ► people would say oh you should do a

00:25:35 ◼   ► state of the apps you just take the apps

00:25:37 ◼   ► I googled it saw what it was like oh

00:25:38 ◼   ► that would be a good idea and I put it

00:25:39 ◼   ► in my note and then when I went to look

00:25:42 ◼   ► into this maybe six months ago

00:25:44 ◼   ► kind of like less maybe start thinking

00:25:46 ◼   ► about planning this one out I was

00:25:49 ◼   ► surprised when I couldn't find 2015 and

00:25:51 ◼   ► 2016 because the amount that people were

00:25:54 ◼   ► asking made me think that you had done

00:25:57 ◼   ► it regularly but no you did it once

00:26:00 ◼   ► three years ago yeah but everybody wants

00:26:03 ◼   ► it and I can't remember why we're doing

00:26:06 ◼   ► it today but we are I think maybe I

00:26:08 ◼   ► finally ground you down because he is a

00:26:10 ◼   ► really good idea and I guess now is the

00:26:14 ◼   ► time right yeah I think it's partly it's

00:26:18 ◼   ► partly that you ground me down and it's

00:26:22 ◼   ► partly because when we were we were

00:26:25 ◼   ► talking about when does it make sense to

00:26:28 ◼   ► do it at the end of the year is a is a

00:26:31 ◼   ► totally sensible time to do it

00:26:34 ◼   ► and if it feels like okay if we're going

00:26:37 ◼   ► to talk about it

00:26:38 ◼   ► you know Christmastime talk about all

00:26:40 ◼   ► the different apps that's not a bad time

00:26:41 ◼   ► people might be getting new devices and

00:26:44 ◼   ► looking trying to find like what what do

00:26:46 ◼   ► they want to install on those devices

00:26:47 ◼   ► and so yeah this is this is the best

00:26:50 ◼   ► time to do it and also it might be

00:26:52 ◼   ► easier for you to talk about it with me

00:26:54 ◼   ► rather than trying to write an article

00:26:56 ◼   ► and thought instead every year yeah well

00:26:58 ◼   ► like do a little sidebar here please

00:27:02 ◼   ► so that article is state of the apps'

00:27:05 ◼   ► 2014 but it was actually written in

00:27:08 ◼   ► December 2013 because I feel like I'm

00:27:12 ◼   ► gonna write this article but I want it

00:27:13 ◼   ► but I want it to be good for a whole

00:27:15 ◼   ► year right so it's like it's like I

00:27:17 ◼   ► think nothing is with cars like the 2018

00:27:19 ◼   ► car comes out in 2017 yeah I think

00:27:22 ◼   ► that's what the yeah what happens yeah

00:27:23 ◼   ► right so that what that was my idea like

00:27:25 ◼   ► the state of the apps 2014 is this

00:27:27 ◼   ► article is good for the year 2014 of

00:27:32 ◼   ► coming but I did write its it was just

00:27:37 ◼   ► like it was just like a little list but

00:27:39 ◼   ► it was it ended up just being an

00:27:41 ◼   ► enormous amount of work and hassle

00:27:43 ◼   ► getting together all the little icons

00:27:44 ◼   ► and putting together all the little

00:27:45 ◼   ► links and boxes around them and

00:27:56 ◼   ► everything yeah okay so let me tell you

00:28:00 ◼   ► just a little story about those white

00:28:02 ◼   ► boxes uh-huh those white boxes are an

00:28:04 ◼   ► example of me giving up on something

00:28:06 ◼   ► because hmm okay okay

00:28:09 ◼   ► sidebar to the sidebar this was back

00:28:15 ◼   ► before I found the person who is

00:28:18 ◼   ► currently my assistant right so this is

00:28:21 ◼   ► a couple of assistants before I found my

00:28:24 ◼   ► current assistant and this was one of

00:28:27 ◼   ► those cases where like you assigned

00:28:29 ◼   ► someone a task and he said look I need a

00:28:31 ◼   ► bunch of app icons and what you get back

00:28:35 ◼   ► is one of these things where you feel

00:28:36 ◼   ► like if I have to explain to you that

00:28:39 ◼   ► they can't have white boxes around them

00:28:42 ◼   ► like I just like this is I can't I can't

00:28:47 ◼   ► fix

00:28:47 ◼   ► this I don't care enough I don't want to

00:28:50 ◼   ► reassign this thing like it was just

00:28:52 ◼   ► whatever I got this back it's not what I

00:28:54 ◼   ► wanted but it's just it's just done so

00:28:57 ◼   ► oh those

00:28:59 ◼   ► I like I remember those white boxes

00:29:00 ◼   ► quite intensely I was like oh this is

00:29:03 ◼   ► not what I was a guy I see yeah okay but

00:29:06 ◼   ► then one of the other things that does

00:29:07 ◼   ► happen is there are very few times I

00:29:17 ◼   ► have written articles on my website and

00:29:20 ◼   ► it is definitely a thing where the

00:29:21 ◼   ► frequency has dramatically dropped from

00:29:24 ◼   ► when I first set up the website and that

00:29:27 ◼   ► that is 100% like a like a return on

00:29:30 ◼   ► investment calculation that as my career

00:29:36 ◼   ► as a youtuber and then podcaster has

00:29:38 ◼   ► progressed it is up I'll put it this way

00:29:45 ◼   ► it is near fundamentally impossible for

00:29:48 ◼   ► me to justify spending almost any time

00:29:52 ◼   ► writing something that is just going to

00:29:55 ◼   ► turn into text on the website and it's

00:29:58 ◼   ► it's almost impossible to justify on two

00:30:01 ◼   ► levels one I don't have any direct

00:30:04 ◼   ► advertising on the website so the

00:30:06 ◼   ► website doesn't really make any money

00:30:07 ◼   ► and then the other side of it is even if

00:30:10 ◼   ► I'm just putting together a list article

00:30:12 ◼   ► like a like a state of the apps list

00:30:14 ◼   ► article that has a huge opportunity cost

00:30:20 ◼   ► because it's it's like the same amount

00:30:22 ◼   ► of mental or I should put it this way

00:30:25 ◼   ► it's like I only have so much mental

00:30:27 ◼   ► energy per day that I can throw at

00:30:30 ◼   ► writing and so to spend that mental

00:30:33 ◼   ► energy on the list article is like is

00:30:35 ◼   ► like doubly insane that there's no way

00:30:38 ◼   ► it's going to make any revenue and it is

00:30:41 ◼   ► the opportunity cost is incredible so

00:30:44 ◼   ► that that's partly why I like articles

00:30:46 ◼   ► have have just disappeared from the

00:30:49 ◼   ► repertoire of what are the things that I

00:30:51 ◼   ► do I just don't really do them anymore

00:30:52 ◼   ► so that is why I like state of the apps'

00:30:55 ◼   ► was was toward the end of that phase

00:30:57 ◼   ► where I was realizing that that writing

00:30:59 ◼   ► articles

00:31:00 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense in the portfolio

00:31:02 ◼   ► of gray industries yeah that's but

00:31:05 ◼   ► that's also why it just it never got

00:31:07 ◼   ► another it never got a follow-up and

00:31:09 ◼   ► then why write an article and you can

00:31:10 ◼   ► make a great podcast up again of it

00:31:12 ◼   ► hence state of the apps 2017 here we are

00:31:15 ◼   ► no no Mike it's it's state of the apps

00:31:18 ◼   ► 2018 right yeah how do you not

00:31:21 ◼   ► understand

00:31:22 ◼   ► yes state of the apps 2018 that's what

00:31:24 ◼   ► this is well I'm I'm too deep in upgrade

00:31:27 ◼   ► ease 2017 thinking right now okay right

00:31:31 ◼   ► yes that makes sense though because it's

00:31:33 ◼   ► the award for the previous year exactly

00:31:35 ◼   ► but see if we if we put this podcast up

00:31:38 ◼   ► with the title state of the apps 2017

00:31:40 ◼   ► people won't be listening to it next

00:31:42 ◼   ► Christmas yep so stay at the apps 2018

00:31:45 ◼   ► you previously did this with a bunch of

00:31:47 ◼   ► categories yeah and I have made a little

00:31:50 ◼   ► note in our document of all the

00:31:51 ◼   ► categories but you sent me a little my

00:31:54 ◼   ► map and the categories are totally

00:31:56 ◼   ► different so what I was planning on

00:32:02 ◼   ► doing is I was gonna go through all the

00:32:04 ◼   ► categories but now if you're gonna have

00:32:06 ◼   ► to suggest the categories and we go so

00:32:09 ◼   ► we can start wherever you want to start

00:32:11 ◼   ► okay this is also actually one of the

00:32:13 ◼   ► reasons why I think this this kind of

00:32:15 ◼   ► makes this is actually better to do as a

00:32:18 ◼   ► podcast because I think rather than me

00:32:21 ◼   ► just like listing a few things there is

00:32:23 ◼   ► there is a way that you can like talk

00:32:24 ◼   ► about why you've chosen a thing show oh

00:32:27 ◼   ► or in a in a way that makes more sense

00:32:30 ◼   ► but this but this is this is the

00:32:32 ◼   ► difficulty here like where do things fit

00:32:35 ◼   ► and I feel like no no I'm very happy to

00:32:37 ◼   ► follow your format Mike you run the show

00:32:38 ◼   ► right okay you're the you're the man

00:32:40 ◼   ► you're the man who does all of the

00:32:43 ◼   ► things I just I just show up that's

00:32:46 ◼   ► that's what I do so you want me to run

00:32:48 ◼   ► through the previous 2014 format and

00:32:51 ◼   ► we're gonna talk about them all I am

00:32:53 ◼   ► happy to rearrange on the fly in

00:32:56 ◼   ► whatever whatever way makes sense for

00:32:58 ◼   ► you because this morning also just like

00:33:01 ◼   ► a little little sidebar to the article

00:33:03 ◼   ► this morning one of the things that was

00:33:05 ◼   ► deep we look at what as many you know we

00:33:08 ◼   ► closed those previous talk now this is

00:33:10 ◼   ► another one like you have to keep the

00:33:12 ◼   ► parenthesis open and

00:33:14 ◼   ► in your mind right in you but with

00:33:15 ◼   ► different colors like in a programming

00:33:16 ◼   ► text editor anyway looking back over my

00:33:19 ◼   ► old article this morning when I was

00:33:20 ◼   ► preparing for the show I realized that a

00:33:22 ◼   ► lot of those categories don't even

00:33:24 ◼   ► entirely make sense anymore

00:33:26 ◼   ► and and part of it is recognizing like I

00:33:29 ◼   ► had these overlapping field of fields of

00:33:31 ◼   ► work that I didn't at that point and I

00:33:34 ◼   ► was really shocked to realize that that

00:33:36 ◼   ► article was written before I had done

00:33:38 ◼   ► any podcasting at all oh really yeah

00:33:41 ◼   ► yeah that this was this was prior to any

00:33:44 ◼   ► podcast existing and I was looking at

00:33:48 ◼   ► some of my software choices I was like

00:33:49 ◼   ► oh my god how did you do anything with

00:33:53 ◼   ► that buddy like how how were you putting

00:33:55 ◼   ► together videos with GarageBand still

00:33:57 ◼   ► like I don't understand what how passed

00:34:00 ◼   ► Gray was doing that stuff so the

00:34:02 ◼   ► categories have have sort of changed so

00:34:05 ◼   ► this morning I wasn't really sure how to

00:34:06 ◼   ► arrange things in my little my little

00:34:08 ◼   ► just making notes oh you you lead I will

00:34:10 ◼   ► follow Mike so let's start in in in OG

00:34:14 ◼   ► order with productivity mmm so what are

00:34:18 ◼   ► some of your what is some of your app

00:34:20 ◼   ► picks for productivity because there I

00:34:22 ◼   ► think something that maybe didn't exist

00:34:24 ◼   ► and does exist now I know it's in my

00:34:27 ◼   ► kind of list for stuff and I can see

00:34:28 ◼   ► that you have some things like this - of

00:34:30 ◼   ► services as well as apps and I think

00:34:35 ◼   ► that is just a change from 2013 to now

00:34:38 ◼   ► is that there are a lot more services

00:34:42 ◼   ► they exist yeah this is this is

00:34:43 ◼   ► definitely a thing is recognizing

00:34:45 ◼   ► services exist okay so on that note the

00:34:54 ◼   ► big productivity service and end a thing

00:34:58 ◼   ► that has made made a really big

00:35:02 ◼   ► difference to me this year and I think

00:35:05 ◼   ► I'm gonna touch on a little bit more in

00:35:08 ◼   ► our next episode where we plan to talk

00:35:10 ◼   ► about our year themes oh no don't tell

00:35:12 ◼   ► people well that's not a very great

00:35:14 ◼   ► thing to do right now if something

00:35:16 ◼   ► changes I'm pinning you down Mike okay

00:35:19 ◼   ► next episode your games right but a

00:35:24 ◼   ► service related to that the biggest

00:35:26 ◼   ► biggest thing that I've spent the moe

00:35:27 ◼   ► time on this past year is by far and

00:35:31 ◼   ► away toggle which is the the time

00:35:33 ◼   ► tracking service and ten thousand people

00:35:36 ◼   ► just stopped listening by everyone say

00:35:38 ◼   ► that like everybody everybody likes the

00:35:40 ◼   ► time tracking conversations I don't know

00:35:41 ◼   ► I don't know what you're talking about

00:35:44 ◼   ► but yeah by far in a way it's like is

00:35:46 ◼   ► toggle and app no it's not really an app

00:35:50 ◼   ► but it's it's a service that you can use

00:35:53 ◼   ► in a bunch of different ways from a

00:35:54 ◼   ► bunch of different places to keep to

00:35:56 ◼   ► keep track of time tracking yeah they

00:35:57 ◼   ► have an iPhone app that isn't horrific

00:36:00 ◼   ► now yeah I have they have an okay iPhone

00:36:03 ◼   ► app but it's only on the iPhone both me

00:36:06 ◼   ► and you still use it with some workflow

00:36:08 ◼   ► triggers that we set up yeah I would

00:36:10 ◼   ► that's exactly what I would describe it

00:36:11 ◼   ► to is is that their their iPhone app is

00:36:14 ◼   ► okay it's it's serviceable a web app is

00:36:19 ◼   ► vastly better like using amusing toggles

00:36:22 ◼   ► website is is way better than using

00:36:25 ◼   ► their app even on an iPhone oh yeah

00:36:27 ◼   ► without a doubt that that's definitely

00:36:29 ◼   ► the case but yeah so that's that is like

00:36:33 ◼   ► that is just a big overarching umbrella

00:36:36 ◼   ► under which a lot of this other stuff

00:36:38 ◼   ► Falls is that throughout the past year I

00:36:44 ◼   ► have gotten better and better and better

00:36:47 ◼   ► at nearly constantly running a toggle

00:36:51 ◼   ► timer in the background when I'm awake

00:36:54 ◼   ► and then that obviously connects into

00:36:57 ◼   ► these things like we've like we just

00:36:58 ◼   ► mentioned there it's like how do I do

00:37:00 ◼   ► that I'm using workflow as like a custom

00:37:03 ◼   ► interface on top of toggle so that I can

00:37:07 ◼   ► have preset timers turn on just by

00:37:10 ◼   ► pressing a single button so I don't need

00:37:12 ◼   ► to fiddle with their app I don't need to

00:37:14 ◼   ► fiddle with the website and I think if

00:37:16 ◼   ► there was if there was some kind of

00:37:19 ◼   ► frequency tracker for how often you

00:37:22 ◼   ► launch an app my workflow that I save on

00:37:26 ◼   ► my phone to start picking toggle timers

00:37:30 ◼   ► to start that has got to be my most open

00:37:33 ◼   ► app by two orders of magnitude compared

00:37:37 ◼   ► to anything else on my phone by far so I

00:37:41 ◼   ► I would say though those are the those

00:37:42 ◼   ► are the big ones big ones for me this

00:37:44 ◼   ► year in productivity I would say without

00:37:47 ◼   ► a doubt it's the same for me to achieve

00:37:50 ◼   ► my year of less I started time tracking

00:37:55 ◼   ► and time tracking is a habit for me now

00:37:59 ◼   ► I've recognized this the most when I

00:38:02 ◼   ► travel because when I travel even if I'm

00:38:04 ◼   ► working I tend not to time track yeah

00:38:07 ◼   ► it's really hard to do when you're

00:38:08 ◼   ► traveling but the reason that I know

00:38:10 ◼   ► this is worked is immediately when I

00:38:12 ◼   ► come home I start again mm-hmm you know

00:38:14 ◼   ► it's not that like I'm away for a couple

00:38:16 ◼   ► of weeks come home and then I've just

00:38:18 ◼   ► fell out of the habit of it now I just

00:38:21 ◼   ► go straight back into regular mode again

00:38:23 ◼   ► and it goes back to time tracking and

00:38:24 ◼   ► for me personally I wouldn't say that

00:38:28 ◼   ► like I'm using this data very frequently

00:38:30 ◼   ► to make decisions about the way that I

00:38:32 ◼   ► work but I have used this data a couple

00:38:35 ◼   ► of really key points for me this year

00:38:36 ◼   ► and having that data is vastly superior

00:38:39 ◼   ► to not having that data when it's come

00:38:42 ◼   ► to me to make some decisions about my

00:38:44 ◼   ► working life mmm there's also just a

00:38:47 ◼   ► mode shift in pressing the button yeah

00:38:49 ◼   ► like press the button right here we go

00:38:51 ◼   ► going to work now like and then when I'm

00:38:53 ◼   ► done

00:38:53 ◼   ► I clock out and that just the way that

00:38:58 ◼   ► that makes me feel like the clocking in

00:39:00 ◼   ► and clocking out or certain tasks really

00:39:02 ◼   ► kind of helps solidify in my mind when

00:39:04 ◼   ► I'm working on when I'm not more next

00:39:06 ◼   ► time but but one of the benefits for me

00:39:09 ◼   ► with toggle is the same things like how

00:39:12 ◼   ► how often am I really using that data in

00:39:15 ◼   ► a in a granular way not a lot but what

00:39:19 ◼   ► is mentally helpful is simply knowing

00:39:23 ◼   ► that somewhere there's a clock running

00:39:25 ◼   ► makes me more conscious of what I'm

00:39:29 ◼   ► doing in any particular moment and it

00:39:32 ◼   ► just it makes me more intentional in the

00:39:34 ◼   ► decisions that I'm making about how I'm

00:39:35 ◼   ► spending my time and for that alone I

00:39:39 ◼   ► think it's a it's a really great it's a

00:39:42 ◼   ► really great improvement and the the

00:39:44 ◼   ► biggest deal and biggest difference by

00:39:46 ◼   ► far in the in the productivity category

00:39:48 ◼   ► for me I also switched to todoist this

00:39:52 ◼   ► year for my

00:39:55 ◼   ► my to do my task management tool and

00:39:58 ◼   ► I've been very happy with todoist

00:40:00 ◼   ► it he gives me basically everything that

00:40:03 ◼   ► I needed from OmniFocus and the things

00:40:07 ◼   ► that OmniFocus has to do this doesn't

00:40:09 ◼   ► I've ended up not being deal breakers

00:40:11 ◼   ► for me at all but the thing that I

00:40:14 ◼   ► wanted is the thing that I got which is

00:40:16 ◼   ► the ability for other applications and

00:40:19 ◼   ► services to be able to read and write to

00:40:22 ◼   ► my task manager that has been great for

00:40:24 ◼   ► me and I've been very happy and continue

00:40:27 ◼   ► to explore ways to do this because it's

00:40:30 ◼   ► enabling me to not have to remember

00:40:32 ◼   ► everything that not every entry that

00:40:36 ◼   ► goes into my task manager has to come

00:40:38 ◼   ► from me remembering to put a thing in it

00:40:40 ◼   ► sometimes things just appear in it on

00:40:42 ◼   ► their own and I find great comfort in

00:40:45 ◼   ► that

00:40:46 ◼   ► how much do you use their shared

00:40:49 ◼   ► features like you're using that with

00:40:50 ◼   ► relay or with anybody else zero okay so

00:40:54 ◼   ► you're using it as a yeah I mostly don't

00:40:56 ◼   ► like the idea of somebody being like a

00:40:59 ◼   ► person being able to add and remove

00:41:02 ◼   ► tasks from lists I just personally like

00:41:05 ◼   ► to put it in myself and assume that the

00:41:08 ◼   ► other people person will do the same

00:41:10 ◼   ► I've played around of it a little bit

00:41:12 ◼   ► and ultimately I don't like all that

00:41:15 ◼   ► stuff being in the same place my my

00:41:18 ◼   ► to-do app is like a fortress right and

00:41:23 ◼   ► there's one tunnel which is for web

00:41:25 ◼   ► services and that's the only tunnel I

00:41:27 ◼   ► think was it I think it was at your

00:41:28 ◼   ► urging I tried to duyst and for me it

00:41:33 ◼   ► has fallen into the exact opposite role

00:41:35 ◼   ► which is that it is purely for shared

00:41:39 ◼   ► tasks and I don't use it at all for an

00:41:42 ◼   ► individual so this is the program that

00:41:44 ◼   ► is used between my assistants and I and

00:41:46 ◼   ► even there it's it's interesting to see

00:41:49 ◼   ► that what has happened is it's not like

00:41:54 ◼   ► it is it's not used on unlike a daily

00:42:00 ◼   ► basis of checking in things and being

00:42:02 ◼   ► constantly updated but we have ended up

00:42:05 ◼   ► using it like a record of what

00:42:08 ◼   ► the active projects to review every once

00:42:11 ◼   ► in a while so it's acting like it's a

00:42:14 ◼   ► like a placeholder for what are the

00:42:18 ◼   ► things that are going on hmm

00:42:21 ◼   ► but it's it's clearly not being used by

00:42:23 ◼   ► either of us as like the busy daily

00:42:26 ◼   ► thing and like on her and she has her

00:42:30 ◼   ► own system that she's actually using for

00:42:32 ◼   ► her task management personally in the

00:42:35 ◼   ► same way that I am using my own stuff

00:42:37 ◼   ► for my personal things but this is this

00:42:39 ◼   ► is just like where are we in on a very

00:42:42 ◼   ► high level on various projects like that

00:42:45 ◼   ► that's what has ended up happening with

00:42:46 ◼   ► with to do is for me see you actually

00:42:49 ◼   ► using a task manager again okay so we

00:42:53 ◼   ► talk about three task managers I mean

00:42:57 ◼   ► shall we I don't know I guess if that's

00:43:00 ◼   ► what we're doing I was only asking if

00:43:02 ◼   ► you were using one but if it takes free

00:43:04 ◼   ► to talk about it then sure we'll do that

00:43:07 ◼   ► okay let's let's run through a few of

00:43:09 ◼   ► the of the task managers that I have on

00:43:11 ◼   ► my on my list here clear your afternoon

00:43:13 ◼   ► everyone know I can get through this

00:43:15 ◼   ► very quickly okay I can get through it

00:43:16 ◼   ► very quickly indeed so what yeah the

00:43:20 ◼   ► task manager thing I do I do a little

00:43:23 ◼   ► bit want to save that again for a

00:43:25 ◼   ► conversation next time show but I will

00:43:27 ◼   ► I'll broadly say that it's like yes I've

00:43:29 ◼   ► been trying to get back into using task

00:43:32 ◼   ► managers on a more regular basis because

00:43:36 ◼   ► this year I was a little bit in the

00:43:37 ◼   ► wilderness with task managers and what

00:43:40 ◼   ► I'm currently doing is I'm using three

00:43:46 ◼   ► four different things OmniFocus is still

00:43:50 ◼   ► the heavy weights task manager where I

00:43:53 ◼   ► can throw a bunch of templates into it

00:43:55 ◼   ► right really long checklists for putting

00:43:58 ◼   ► up podcasts or putting up videos like

00:44:00 ◼   ► that that is the the heaviest of the

00:44:02 ◼   ► heavy weight things I'm using to do as

00:44:07 ◼   ► like I try to think about how to

00:44:10 ◼   ► describe this this morning but I've been

00:44:12 ◼   ► using to do is like a habit or routine

00:44:15 ◼   ► tracker so these are tasks like

00:44:21 ◼   ► in the morning I have a bunch of things

00:44:24 ◼   ► that I call like boot up and I want to

00:44:26 ◼   ► run through those things like here's a

00:44:28 ◼   ► bunch of easy wins in the morning to

00:44:29 ◼   ► check up check off these boxes and

00:44:31 ◼   ► you're just getting the day started

00:44:33 ◼   ► right like one of them one of the

00:44:36 ◼   ► simplest ones is just like drink a glass

00:44:37 ◼   ► of water in the morning because it's

00:44:41 ◼   ► just like I've seen like I definitely

00:44:42 ◼   ► have a better day when I do that so that

00:44:44 ◼   ► goes in to do and then like another one

00:44:47 ◼   ► of those things like go to the office

00:44:49 ◼   ► alright that's like another little part

00:44:51 ◼   ► of the morning routine it's like okay

00:44:53 ◼   ► great

00:44:53 ◼   ► I can tick this off in the box so all of

00:44:55 ◼   ► these things are actual items in a

00:44:57 ◼   ► checklist that you check off

00:44:58 ◼   ► yeah they are items in the checklist

00:45:00 ◼   ► that I check off so let me ask you a

00:45:02 ◼   ► question then hmm how do you remember to

00:45:05 ◼   ► start the list to do shows the badge on

00:45:07 ◼   ► my phone right so that's that's the

00:45:09 ◼   ► that's the way it communicates to me so

00:45:11 ◼   ► what are these daily recurring tasks

00:45:13 ◼   ► yeah there's the way I've set it up and

00:45:15 ◼   ► to do is their daily recurring tasks

00:45:17 ◼   ► that are set as due in the morning or

00:45:21 ◼   ► due in the middle of the day or do in

00:45:23 ◼   ► the evening which are like my three

00:45:24 ◼   ► primary habit locations where I want to

00:45:27 ◼   ► reinforce some behavior and so I just

00:45:30 ◼   ► ticked them off every day and their

00:45:31 ◼   ► daily repeating and they and they come

00:45:33 ◼   ► back on the on the day that they need to

00:45:34 ◼   ► but I said I really like it this is this

00:45:37 ◼   ► is a kind of task that for a long time

00:45:39 ◼   ► I've always done that that I think of as

00:45:42 ◼   ► like a workflow sort of task this is

00:45:45 ◼   ► this isn't the actual work maybe these

00:45:48 ◼   ► things do or don't need to happen on any

00:45:50 ◼   ► particular day but like this is how a

00:45:53 ◼   ► theoretically perfect day would go this

00:45:57 ◼   ► is the kind of day that you want to

00:45:59 ◼   ► reestablish and like I said I really

00:46:01 ◼   ► like it in the morning for starting a

00:46:05 ◼   ► kind of momentum to make things just

00:46:08 ◼   ► like easy to begin the day and feel like

00:46:10 ◼   ► okay great I got some my brain got some

00:46:12 ◼   ► quick meaningless wins but it still it

00:46:16 ◼   ► still helps get the ball rolling on the

00:46:17 ◼   ► bigger things that need to happen okay

00:46:20 ◼   ► so what's the third one okay so that the

00:46:23 ◼   ► final one is when I just been playing

00:46:25 ◼   ► around with a little bit which is things

00:46:28 ◼   ► and things has taken over the slot from

00:46:31 ◼   ► clear which is

00:46:34 ◼   ► the the place for having a really simple

00:46:39 ◼   ► superb limited task manager so what I

00:46:44 ◼   ► like that for is sometimes on busy days

00:46:47 ◼   ► I feel like I need to put or I should I

00:46:50 ◼   ► should back up not on a busy day but I

00:46:53 ◼   ► very often find on days where you're

00:46:55 ◼   ► feeling overwhelmed by tasks the most

00:46:58 ◼   ► effective thing is to really narrow down

00:47:01 ◼   ► and to say okay

00:47:03 ◼   ► I'm feeling really overwhelmed there's

00:47:05 ◼   ► like a whole bunch of stuff in the world

00:47:06 ◼   ► OmniFocus has a badge that has 67 in it

00:47:09 ◼   ► you know like I'm really overdue on a

00:47:12 ◼   ► whole bunch of stuff that would end my

00:47:13 ◼   ► life you know what do you mean like that

00:47:16 ◼   ► would be it I would die if I saw a badge

00:47:19 ◼   ► that said 67 now just that be it I would

00:47:22 ◼   ► immediately die yeah it's this is one of

00:47:27 ◼   ► the disadvantages of having like of

00:47:29 ◼   ► having of being ridiculously thorough

00:47:33 ◼   ► with like all the stuff that needs to

00:47:34 ◼   ► happen and putting it into a system is

00:47:35 ◼   ► that you can end up with this like like

00:47:41 ◼   ► sudden overloads where a bunch of things

00:47:43 ◼   ► come together all at once and you're

00:47:44 ◼   ► like oh god everything this automatic

00:47:46 ◼   ► system is showing me a million things

00:47:47 ◼   ► that are due today if if my if my badge

00:47:50 ◼   ► when I wake up in the morning on to

00:47:52 ◼   ► doest is over seven I know that my day

00:47:54 ◼   ► is like yeah this you have to keep in

00:48:02 ◼   ► mind that that in OmniFocus on being

00:48:04 ◼   ► ridiculously granular yeah I know you

00:48:07 ◼   ► don't have like 67 podcasts to post that

00:48:09 ◼   ► day but it's just like that number it's

00:48:12 ◼   ► just horrific to me and there are ways

00:48:15 ◼   ► in which like when you're really on your

00:48:16 ◼   ► game it doesn't matter and like oh great

00:48:18 ◼   ► okay I've got a lot of stuff I'm gonna

00:48:19 ◼   ► sort of blow through it but I do I do

00:48:21 ◼   ► like to have on hand something that I

00:48:23 ◼   ► can use as the I'm going to have a

00:48:27 ◼   ► simple and narrowly focused day and in

00:48:32 ◼   ► the past I've always used clear for that

00:48:34 ◼   ► but clear hasn't updated in a while I

00:48:36 ◼   ► know that they are intending to release

00:48:39 ◼   ► a new version soon but they haven't

00:48:40 ◼   ► actually done it yet I still use clear

00:48:42 ◼   ► and I am on the beta for clear no I know

00:48:46 ◼   ► the app is coming

00:48:47 ◼   ► be awesome like I know that I could I

00:48:50 ◼   ► cuz I can see it they are working on a

00:48:51 ◼   ► new version I went to mention that

00:48:53 ◼   ► because every time we mentioned clear

00:48:55 ◼   ► there are people that send us

00:48:57 ◼   ► screenshots now of like because they've

00:49:00 ◼   ► said I mean they've said it publicly you

00:49:02 ◼   ► can look in your release notes and

00:49:04 ◼   ► they're saying that they are working on

00:49:05 ◼   ► a new version and and I have been using

00:49:07 ◼   ► the new version and it's great so I'm

00:49:09 ◼   ► just saying like for me for right now

00:49:11 ◼   ► I'm just using things in that place and

00:49:16 ◼   ► I've always felt like things is a very

00:49:18 ◼   ► nicely designed app which which is why

00:49:19 ◼   ► can it can easily take over that slot in

00:49:22 ◼   ► my mind from clear whereas like the

00:49:24 ◼   ► thing that I liked and clear is like

00:49:25 ◼   ► it's simple and it's nicely designed and

00:49:28 ◼   ► things fills that same role like it's

00:49:30 ◼   ► simple and it's nicely designed and it's

00:49:32 ◼   ► very easy to say on things okay here are

00:49:36 ◼   ► four things that if I I do today I'll

00:49:40 ◼   ► feel like it was a great day and I'm

00:49:42 ◼   ► just going to have a day where I'm

00:49:43 ◼   ► focused more narrowly on on what's

00:49:47 ◼   ► occurring so those are the ways in my

00:49:51 ◼   ► mind that I use these different task

00:49:53 ◼   ► managers from like lightest weight

00:49:54 ◼   ► things to heaviest weight how many focus

00:49:58 ◼   ► and that's that's that's currently what

00:50:01 ◼   ► I'm using with those so you're actually

00:50:03 ◼   ► using full task managers I don't really

00:50:06 ◼   ► count to do is to focus realm I do but I

00:50:09 ◼   ► mean I'm gonna count it for you yeah the

00:50:12 ◼   ► reason the reason that I don't is in my

00:50:13 ◼   ► mind like to do is could easily be

00:50:15 ◼   ► replaced by a Google Doc like a shared

00:50:18 ◼   ► Google dot whip doc with some bullet

00:50:20 ◼   ► points on yeah but like things could

00:50:21 ◼   ► just be remind us well like a piece of

00:50:24 ◼   ► paper yeah I see what you're saying

00:50:27 ◼   ► I guess I guess it's just like any if

00:50:30 ◼   ► anything could be anything if we tried

00:50:32 ◼   ► like I know that this this could be

00:50:34 ◼   ► distributed as an audio cassettes

00:50:35 ◼   ► exactly but so there are four cost

00:50:37 ◼   ► managers that are in use like yeah I

00:50:40 ◼   ► just don't think of to do is like a task

00:50:43 ◼   ► manager uh-huh because I feel like I'm

00:50:44 ◼   ► using almost none of the features of a

00:50:48 ◼   ► task manager okay I can sympathize if

00:50:50 ◼   ► you a little bit because like people

00:50:52 ◼   ► always mention how I have like three to

00:50:54 ◼   ► that like to do managers on my home

00:50:56 ◼   ► screen also writing like that right now

00:50:57 ◼   ► I think it's only two because I have to

00:51:00 ◼   ► do it in

00:51:01 ◼   ► do because view is amazing for just

00:51:04 ◼   ► those things like take out the trash and

00:51:06 ◼   ► remind a few men oh yeah I love doing I

00:51:09 ◼   ► didn't even mention that one because

00:51:12 ◼   ► it's not really the same like taking out

00:51:14 ◼   ► the trash isn't like publishing a

00:51:17 ◼   ► podcast I mean I guess the sometimes

00:51:18 ◼   ► awesome similarities between those two

00:51:20 ◼   ► things but like they're completely

00:51:21 ◼   ► different actions yeah I mean if you if

00:51:24 ◼   ► you really if you really want to be

00:51:25 ◼   ► pernickety about it you could get this

00:51:27 ◼   ► number for me up to six yeah because I

00:51:29 ◼   ► do also use reminders the built-in

00:51:32 ◼   ► reminders and notes Olli has a checklist

00:51:34 ◼   ► function no okay no but I don't ask the

00:51:37 ◼   ► cow you can do remind this infant has to

00:51:39 ◼   ► count note that note that okay you're

00:51:42 ◼   ► pushing it too far Mike this is just

00:51:43 ◼   ► ridiculous but I do use one of the very

00:51:47 ◼   ► few things that series useful for is

00:51:49 ◼   ► sometimes being able to just tell her

00:51:52 ◼   ► like remind me about a thing at this

00:51:53 ◼   ► time right or when I leave my house

00:51:56 ◼   ► remind me to whatever I don't do that

00:51:58 ◼   ► very often but I do do that sometimes

00:52:00 ◼   ► and so yeah I guess six is the maximum

00:52:03 ◼   ► and theory that it could be so we are

00:52:05 ◼   ► still in the productivity category which

00:52:07 ◼   ► I had expected would probably be the

00:52:10 ◼   ► category that we spend the most time

00:52:11 ◼   ► looking about I guess for me as well in

00:52:15 ◼   ► there would be something like

00:52:16 ◼   ► fantastical like my calendar is very

00:52:18 ◼   ► important mmm and I would I would assume

00:52:23 ◼   ► that that was your pick too fantastical

00:52:25 ◼   ► yeah so I I use two calendars I can fill

00:52:30 ◼   ► it an Apple calendar and I use

00:52:32 ◼   ► fantastical why are you laughing Mike

00:52:40 ◼   ► one is none right okay no that's that's

00:52:44 ◼   ► a that doesn't apply to calendaring apps

00:52:46 ◼   ► no you just you just being silly now

00:52:48 ◼   ► Mike oh okay of course it doesn't

00:52:49 ◼   ► you just have to for fun why else would

00:52:52 ◼   ► you have to I like to have the I have

00:52:56 ◼   ► the to simply so that I can I can leave

00:52:58 ◼   ► them in different states

00:53:01 ◼   ► so like fantastical I use as the like

00:53:05 ◼   ► what are the most important things I

00:53:07 ◼   ► need to see today so fantastical has a

00:53:10 ◼   ► very very limited subsection of the

00:53:12 ◼   ► calendars that ever

00:53:14 ◼   ► has open so when I open it up like

00:53:17 ◼   ► things I want to see on fantastical are

00:53:19 ◼   ► my podcasting calendar I was like do I

00:53:22 ◼   ► need to be recording something today the

00:53:24 ◼   ► social calendar that's shared with my

00:53:26 ◼   ► wife like am I supposed to be at some

00:53:28 ◼   ► dinner party I didn't remember until the

00:53:30 ◼   ► last possible second right it's like

00:53:31 ◼   ► okay yeah that'll be there and I have my

00:53:36 ◼   ► own calendar that I call changes which

00:53:39 ◼   ► is essentially anything that I need to

00:53:41 ◼   ► know about on the day that's different

00:53:43 ◼   ► from normal so like meetings or like any

00:53:46 ◼   ► place that I need to be that that's

00:53:48 ◼   ► gonna be there so what I like to have is

00:53:51 ◼   ► fantastical is just those and the place

00:53:56 ◼   ► I actually use it the most is there

00:53:58 ◼   ► little widget on the phone so that I can

00:54:00 ◼   ► swipe over into the widget area and just

00:54:03 ◼   ► really quickly this is actually one of

00:54:05 ◼   ► my little like morning routine things is

00:54:08 ◼   ► check the calendar just to see if

00:54:10 ◼   ► there's anything you've totally

00:54:11 ◼   ► forgotten about today and that like that

00:54:13 ◼   ► is all I want to see whereas the regular

00:54:18 ◼   ► built-in Apple calendar there I have a

00:54:19 ◼   ► whole bunch of other things that like

00:54:22 ◼   ► none of them are urgent but if I'm

00:54:24 ◼   ► planning my year like I want to see a

00:54:25 ◼   ► bunch of different things but so

00:54:28 ◼   ► fantastical I use is just a fast way to

00:54:30 ◼   ► access the most important subset of the

00:54:32 ◼   ► calendars that I want to take a look at

00:54:33 ◼   ► how many calendars do you have Mike just

00:54:35 ◼   ► fantastical just the one yeah oh I mean

00:54:37 ◼   ► the Apple Canada is installed on my

00:54:39 ◼   ► device right yeah we really talked about

00:54:41 ◼   ► the things you use though but yeah I

00:54:42 ◼   ► don't use it for anything I just use

00:54:44 ◼   ► fantastical one thing that fantastical

00:54:47 ◼   ► on the Mac has which I wish they would

00:54:49 ◼   ► bring to the iPhone version is the idea

00:54:51 ◼   ► of calendar sets yeah it's really nice

00:54:55 ◼   ► yeah I wish I wish that they would do

00:54:58 ◼   ► that as well like so like you can switch

00:55:00 ◼   ► modes between like I want to have two

00:55:02 ◼   ► sets and they have three different

00:55:04 ◼   ► calendars in each so like you could

00:55:06 ◼   ► build that system in there if you wanted

00:55:08 ◼   ► to way like you have the one that you

00:55:10 ◼   ► have all the time but then when you want

00:55:11 ◼   ► to see everything you just change set

00:55:12 ◼   ► and you get everything which I like to

00:55:14 ◼   ► use this on the Mac because there are

00:55:16 ◼   ► some calendars that I only need access

00:55:18 ◼   ► to to input stuff and ever need to see

00:55:20 ◼   ► them because they're truhearing things

00:55:22 ◼   ► and all like are we broadcast shows live

00:55:25 ◼   ► a lot of relay FM and we have a

00:55:27 ◼   ► facing live calendar so if I change the

00:55:30 ◼   ► tenth time of a recording I'm doing I

00:55:33 ◼   ► also have to change it on the live

00:55:34 ◼   ► calendar as well so I would like I

00:55:36 ◼   ► wished that there was an easier way to

00:55:38 ◼   ► bring that in rather than having to like

00:55:39 ◼   ► go into settings and manually enable the

00:55:42 ◼   ► calendar and blah blah blah ya know that

00:55:45 ◼   ► is a really nice feature and and

00:55:47 ◼   ► especially if you're in a situation

00:55:49 ◼   ► where you're working with other people

00:55:51 ◼   ► and you need to have shared calendars

00:55:53 ◼   ► that you might not need to be thinking

00:55:54 ◼   ► about in all all different situations

00:55:56 ◼   ► the ability on the Mac to switch between

00:55:58 ◼   ► these different calendar sets is is

00:56:00 ◼   ► really great it's it's a it's a great

00:56:03 ◼   ► addition that I wish that they would

00:56:05 ◼   ► bring to iOS yeah for sure today's show

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00:58:03 ◼   ► to call out a little bit of a little bit

00:58:05 ◼   ► of a subcategory here in productivity

00:58:06 ◼   ► mm-hmm that I think we can maybe end on

00:58:09 ◼   ► and then maybe do like a lightning round

00:58:11 ◼   ► afterward but yep I think there's

00:58:12 ◼   ► there's like communications as a concept

00:58:15 ◼   ► is something that I didn't have in the

00:58:17 ◼   ► 2014 one well a long time ago when to

00:58:21 ◼   ► anyone it is it is no joke but it was a

00:58:26 ◼   ► thing that I was so aware of which is

00:58:28 ◼   ► what I'm gonna say is personally for me

00:58:34 ◼   ► you know it's communications is a very

00:58:38 ◼   ► hard aspect of my working life it's not

00:58:41 ◼   ► a thing that I am good at and it is not

00:58:44 ◼   ► a thing that I manage well and it was

00:58:47 ◼   ► something looking over the the 2014 the

00:58:50 ◼   ► state of the apps I didn't have a little

00:58:51 ◼   ► bit of wistfulness of like oh that past

00:58:54 ◼   ► gray he just got to be on his own all

00:58:58 ◼   ► day long like he didn't have to work

00:58:59 ◼   ► with anybody you know and now there's

00:59:01 ◼   ► like this orbit of people that I do work

00:59:03 ◼   ► with and it's like I'm just not very

00:59:05 ◼   ► good at communications but so now I feel

00:59:09 ◼   ► like I'm always I'm always sort of

00:59:12 ◼   ► juggling communication systems are like

00:59:15 ◼   ► trying to figure out how to make them

00:59:16 ◼   ► work and and the biggest change in

00:59:19 ◼   ► communications particularly over the

00:59:21 ◼   ► last year is the presence of slack in my

00:59:26 ◼   ► life now

00:59:27 ◼   ► like slack has just taken over so much

00:59:33 ◼   ► and when I when I first when I first

00:59:38 ◼   ► started using slack I like this is the

00:59:40 ◼   ► greatest thing ever like this is a

00:59:41 ◼   ► million times better than email but what

00:59:44 ◼   ► was really the case is it's just there

00:59:47 ◼   ► were so much fewer things coming through

00:59:50 ◼   ► slack

00:59:51 ◼   ► then at email and as as slack has spread

00:59:56 ◼   ► over time and I've slowly

00:59:56 ◼   ► over time and I've slowly

02:00:00 ◼   ► inside of it which I am the fastest in

02:00:02 ◼   ► the world at completing and okay I

02:00:04 ◼   ► literally am there's a game center yeah

02:00:07 ◼   ► yeah and I understand all right versus

02:00:09 ◼   ► just we just transitioned this app

02:00:11 ◼   ► recommendation into a brag yeah I got it

02:00:13 ◼   ► though

02:00:13 ◼   ► yep and I love the game because it

02:00:15 ◼   ► shouldn't be in the calculator and it is

02:00:17 ◼   ► and I love it it there are like two

02:00:20 ◼   ► separate levels to this game and James

02:00:22 ◼   ► Thompson is a wonderful genius and I

02:00:26 ◼   ► yeah it's wild it shouldn't exist but it

02:00:29 ◼   ► does and I love it it's a great

02:00:31 ◼   ► calculator app it's my calculator app of

02:00:33 ◼   ► choice as well

02:00:34 ◼   ► mm-hmm and of course we also know James

02:00:36 ◼   ► Thomson just for the record mm-hmm yeah

02:00:40 ◼   ► so what's really important to say that

02:00:42 ◼   ► we know James I don't know is it

02:00:45 ◼   ► important to say that I don't know like

02:00:47 ◼   ► do we legally have to say that I never

02:00:49 ◼   ► don't think we do but I feel like I

02:00:52 ◼   ► don't think I legally have to say it but

02:00:54 ◼   ► I feel like I should say it because

02:00:57 ◼   ► people might be like oh I see him

02:00:59 ◼   ► interacting with him on Twitter all the

02:01:01 ◼   ► time and yeah like and and and also I

02:01:04 ◼   ► think if we don't say it

02:01:06 ◼   ► it could belittle the quality to people

02:01:08 ◼   ► right so like if they work out that

02:01:10 ◼   ► we're friends with these people they'll

02:01:11 ◼   ► be like are there only recommending that

02:01:12 ◼   ► because they're friends but like I'm

02:01:14 ◼   ► really not it's an excellent calculator

02:01:16 ◼   ► it's the best calculator but I just I

02:01:20 ◼   ► don't know I don't know how this stuff

02:01:21 ◼   ► works

02:01:21 ◼   ► I also don't know like is this are we

02:01:24 ◼   ► good now that we've said at this once

02:01:26 ◼   ► and next year if we mentioned peacock

02:01:29 ◼   ► again do we have to mentioned again or

02:01:31 ◼   ► are we all set

02:01:32 ◼   ► well yeah but I don't assume that

02:01:33 ◼   ► everybody's heard everything you know I

02:01:35 ◼   ► mean I think we should have we should

02:01:37 ◼   ► assume that that cortex listeners I

02:01:38 ◼   ► listen to every episode Esther but but I

02:01:40 ◼   ► just like I don't know I don't know how

02:01:42 ◼   ► this is and I also feel like this might

02:01:44 ◼   ► be one of these things that is a meme

02:01:45 ◼   ► that just spreads mm-hm the idea of like

02:01:48 ◼   ► okay you legally have to disclose must

02:01:51 ◼   ► sell a set of things but then everybody

02:01:53 ◼   ► gets worried that you have to fix you

02:01:56 ◼   ► have to confess the set of like n plus-1

02:02:00 ◼   ► things which then just push pushes the

02:02:02 ◼   ► boundary out further so it's like I

02:02:04 ◼   ► don't know I don't know how this works

02:02:05 ◼   ► but just for some reason I kept feeling

02:02:07 ◼   ► like any time we know what developers

02:02:08 ◼   ► like we got to make it really clear they

02:02:10 ◼   ► also have a podcast on real

02:02:12 ◼   ► I really like CGP grey but he also want

02:02:14 ◼   ► me lunch one time so like wellness today

02:02:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah I don't know I don't know at

02:02:19 ◼   ► all how this works to finish up my

02:02:21 ◼   ► recommendations I have a simple

02:02:23 ◼   ► recommendation an app that does one

02:02:25 ◼   ► thing very well that app is called

02:02:28 ◼   ► Thunder scape and it plays Thunder

02:02:31 ◼   ► sounds in the background if you're

02:02:34 ◼   ► looking for Thunder sounds while you're

02:02:36 ◼   ► working thunder escape is where you want

02:02:38 ◼   ► to go

02:02:43 ◼   ► yep all right so I don't have to do this

02:02:46 ◼   ► again for another five years is that how

02:02:50 ◼   ► this works

02:02:50 ◼   ► no remember it's ten months no right

02:02:53 ◼   ► okay just ten months now this is get now

02:02:55 ◼   ► this is getting confusing mm-hmm there

02:02:58 ◼   ► you go people you can stop asking