Under the Radar

00:00:00 ◼   ► welcome to under the radar a show but

00:00:01 ◼   ► independent iOS app development I'm mark

00:00:04 ◼   ► Worman and I'm David Smith under the

00:00:06 ◼   ► radars never longer than 30 minutes so

00:00:08 ◼   ► let's get started

00:00:08 ◼   ► both you and I'm Marco had a I guess

00:00:11 ◼   ► he's slightly belated Christmas present

00:00:13 ◼   ► this year and that we both are I believe

00:00:16 ◼   ► currently sitting in front of brand-new

00:00:18 ◼   ► primary development computers

00:00:20 ◼   ► specifically iMac pros and I think it

00:00:24 ◼   ► seemed like an interesting topic to talk

00:00:26 ◼   ► about both I think there's some

00:00:27 ◼   ► interesting things to unpack a little

00:00:29 ◼   ► bit about the machine itself I think

00:00:32 ◼   ► it's probably also interesting to talk

00:00:33 ◼   ► about why we both use this particular

00:00:36 ◼   ► set up which i think is if I had a guess

00:00:39 ◼   ► a minority of people use you know use a

00:00:43 ◼   ► an iMac or in this case an iMac Pro as

00:00:46 ◼   ► it as a primary machine versus using a

00:00:48 ◼   ► laptop and then I think it's also

00:00:49 ◼   ► whenever I get a new machine which is

00:00:52 ◼   ► fairly rare you know fairly rare it's

00:00:54 ◼   ► think you know it's not some nothing

00:00:56 ◼   ► that I have to do very often it's an

00:00:57 ◼   ► interesting opportunity to kind of look

00:00:59 ◼   ► at my development set up see how

00:01:01 ◼   ► portable it is and kind of take and take

00:01:03 ◼   ► inventory and all the different things

00:01:05 ◼   ► that you have to do just that one up and

00:01:08 ◼   ► I think that process hopefully there's a

00:01:09 ◼   ► few things to share and two to learn

00:01:12 ◼   ► from there but first I think maybe a

00:01:15 ◼   ► place to start is why do you use an iMac

00:01:17 ◼   ► rather than a laptop as your primary

00:01:19 ◼   ► machine I've done both like I've spent

00:01:21 ◼   ► years as a laptop as my only machine and

00:01:25 ◼   ► then just plugging it into a monitor

00:01:26 ◼   ► keyboard a mouse like when I was at work

00:01:28 ◼   ► and then bringing it home every day then

00:01:29 ◼   ► this is a very very common situation

00:01:31 ◼   ► people people use and and there are a

00:01:34 ◼   ► lot of advantages to just having the

00:01:36 ◼   ► laptop like that first of all you know

00:01:38 ◼   ► cost wise you only have to buy and

00:01:40 ◼   ► maintain an upgrade and and you know

00:01:42 ◼   ► later buy again one computer you know

00:01:46 ◼   ► there's a there's a pretty big question

00:01:49 ◼   ► among a lot of people's minds about like

00:01:50 ◼   ► do you need a laptop at all or can you

00:01:52 ◼   ► just get an iPad but for a lot of

00:01:54 ◼   ► developers that you know there is no

00:01:56 ◼   ► question from the developers the answer

00:01:58 ◼   ► is you can't do what you need to do on

00:01:59 ◼   ► an iPad or it would be so cumbersome

00:02:01 ◼   ► that that it would be you know very not

00:02:03 ◼   ► practical for you so a lot of developers

00:02:06 ◼   ► need laptops and so then the question

00:02:09 ◼   ► only becomes do you have one computer or

00:02:11 ◼   ► to know if you're going to have one

00:02:13 ◼   ► you have a lot of advantages and things

00:02:15 ◼   ► like you don't have to worry about how

00:02:16 ◼   ► you sing file between them how you you

00:02:18 ◼   ► know whether you set them up the same

00:02:20 ◼   ► way and how like oh I forgot to install

00:02:22 ◼   ► this app on this computer or it's

00:02:24 ◼   ► configured differently and you can't

00:02:26 ◼   ► quite figure out how the heck do I get

00:02:27 ◼   ► Photoshop settings to look the way they

00:02:29 ◼   ► look like my look I'm at the computer

00:02:30 ◼   ► things like that like there's there's a

00:02:32 ◼   ► lot of like pains in the butt around

00:02:34 ◼   ► maintaining multiple computers that you

00:02:37 ◼   ► if you just had the laptop you're

00:02:39 ◼   ► totally fine with on the other hand when

00:02:41 ◼   ► you only have one and say something goes

00:02:43 ◼   ► wrong and you need to bring it in for

00:02:45 ◼   ► service and be without it for a few days

00:02:46 ◼   ► you are kind of out of luck and you know

00:02:50 ◼   ► you have a problem in that situation so

00:02:52 ◼   ► there are advantages both ways if you

00:02:54 ◼   ► have multiple computers you can also

00:02:56 ◼   ► intentionally set things up differently

00:02:58 ◼   ► between them so you can have like you

00:03:00 ◼   ► know your work desktop that it has

00:03:02 ◼   ► certain things on it versus your

00:03:03 ◼   ► personal laptop or vice versa you can

00:03:05 ◼   ► have you know your windows will be

00:03:08 ◼   ► preserved on your desktop and you can

00:03:09 ◼   ► come back come down and you know sit

00:03:12 ◼   ► down in front of it and start work

00:03:13 ◼   ► immediately as opposed to you know

00:03:15 ◼   ► plugging in your laptop rearranging

00:03:17 ◼   ► everything you know closing the things

00:03:19 ◼   ► we're running at home certain things

00:03:20 ◼   ► you're running at work so there are

00:03:22 ◼   ► advantages and disadvantages on both

00:03:23 ◼   ► sides I personally find the ergonomics

00:03:28 ◼   ► of a laptop for long term work pretty

00:03:31 ◼   ► rough when it's used as a laptop so I

00:03:34 ◼   ► find that for for getting work done all

00:03:37 ◼   ► day I really want to be sitting in front

00:03:38 ◼   ► of a desktop screen positioned you know

00:03:42 ◼   ► away from my face by a few feet lift it

00:03:44 ◼   ► up to the right height and then a

00:03:46 ◼   ► keyboard that is low in front of me and

00:03:48 ◼   ► a split organ ah McNall keyboard that's

00:03:51 ◼   ► the style that I find most comfortable

00:03:52 ◼   ► organ honestly that that reduces my RSI

00:03:55 ◼   ► issues a mouse on once on my right side

00:03:58 ◼   ► a trackpad on my left side so I have two

00:04:00 ◼   ► input devices one for each hand this is

00:04:03 ◼   ► the kind of setup I like and then the

00:04:04 ◼   ► monitor should be as being as possible

00:04:06 ◼   ► because that is directly related to how

00:04:09 ◼   ► happy I can be in how productive I am

00:04:10 ◼   ► with what I'm doing on my computer all

00:04:12 ◼   ► that basically leads to you know either

00:04:15 ◼   ► the laptop plugged into a big monitor

00:04:17 ◼   ► and keyboard when you're working or the

00:04:19 ◼   ► iMac and really either these options are

00:04:22 ◼   ► totally fine but when you use a laptop

00:04:26 ◼   ► as a

00:04:27 ◼   ► stop it's not a very good desktop you

00:04:30 ◼   ► you not only have issues with like you

00:04:32 ◼   ► know just the pains of connecting and

00:04:34 ◼   ► disconnecting every day and bringing it

00:04:35 ◼   ► back and forth but then also laptops

00:04:38 ◼   ► don't cool themselves very well under

00:04:40 ◼   ► sustained load or especially if using

00:04:42 ◼   ► clamshell mode where the laptop is

00:04:43 ◼   ► closed and you're plugging the monitor

00:04:44 ◼   ► and it really doesn't cool itself well

00:04:46 ◼   ► they're usually louder when they're

00:04:47 ◼   ► under low because they have these little

00:04:49 ◼   ► tiny fans they usually have lower

00:04:51 ◼   ► powered parts the laptops tend to lag

00:04:55 ◼   ► behind the consumer imax in cpu

00:04:57 ◼   ► performance by a couple of years and GPU

00:04:59 ◼   ► performance by maybe more laptops are

00:05:03 ◼   ► more constrained with things like what

00:05:05 ◼   ► kind of storage you can put in them how

00:05:07 ◼   ► much storage have what kind of upgrades

00:05:08 ◼   ► how much RAM you can put it in the

00:05:10 ◼   ► current lineup and then things like

00:05:12 ◼   ► ports and peripherals and you know

00:05:15 ◼   ► desktops to have more ports and

00:05:16 ◼   ► different ports and better ports usually

00:05:18 ◼   ► and so there's desktops can be better in

00:05:21 ◼   ► a number of ways and I really like

00:05:24 ◼   ► having both the the like reliable

00:05:28 ◼   ► consistent set up where like my desktop

00:05:30 ◼   ► screen never changes sighs so the

00:05:32 ◼   ► windows are always in the right spots

00:05:33 ◼   ► and everything's always like where I

00:05:35 ◼   ► left it and and all the apps can stay

00:05:37 ◼   ► running or not stay running or whatever

00:05:38 ◼   ► else you can have stuff running in the

00:05:40 ◼   ► background that like serves media to

00:05:42 ◼   ► your house for instance because it's

00:05:43 ◼   ► never asleep or never close or never off

00:05:44 ◼   ► or whatever else so there's a lot of

00:05:46 ◼   ► advantages to a desktop and I think that

00:05:49 ◼   ► the decision is made even easier when

00:05:51 ◼   ► you work at home for yourself then you

00:05:54 ◼   ► don't have to worry like about having

00:05:55 ◼   ► the same computer between work and home

00:05:57 ◼   ► all these reasons I just really like

00:06:00 ◼   ► having a desktop if you are a developer

00:06:03 ◼   ► and you get a desktop computer the one

00:06:05 ◼   ► you probably want is the iMac gotta say

00:06:07 ◼   ► it's it's a great computer like even and

00:06:10 ◼   ► for the last three years I used a

00:06:12 ◼   ► regular 5k like you know non Pro I'm at

00:06:14 ◼   ► cuz I'm AI Pro didn't exist I used a

00:06:16 ◼   ► regular iMac and it's great it is you

00:06:20 ◼   ► know they're pretty good machines they

00:06:21 ◼   ► they really are very compelling with the

00:06:24 ◼   ► features you get the the combination of

00:06:27 ◼   ► like then I screen the 5k you know

00:06:29 ◼   ► retina 5k resolution and this beautiful

00:06:31 ◼   ► color or screen and everything and

00:06:33 ◼   ► having everything be you know fairly

00:06:35 ◼   ► tidy fairly all-in-one it's it's just a

00:06:38 ◼   ► really nice overall package so

00:06:40 ◼   ► I use an iMac in general and not even

00:06:42 ◼   ► considering whether it's a pro or not

00:06:43 ◼   ► because a it's a desktop B it's a really

00:06:47 ◼   ► good desktop and and C I think it's the

00:06:50 ◼   ► best choice and and in many ways the

00:06:54 ◼   ► only choice

00:06:55 ◼   ► in Apple's current lineup for the kind

00:06:57 ◼   ► of things that I like yeah and I think I

00:06:59 ◼   ► use a iMac for the same read many of the

00:07:01 ◼   ► same reasons like I've used the retina

00:07:03 ◼   ► iMac since like I bought a maxed out

00:07:06 ◼   ► first-generation retina iMac like as

00:07:09 ◼   ► soon as I could get a Retina screen in

00:07:12 ◼   ► you know the 27-inch size I mean that

00:07:16 ◼   ► was huge I remember how just at the time

00:07:18 ◼   ► how amazing that was for things like

00:07:20 ◼   ► doing iOS simulator work on the iPad or

00:07:24 ◼   ► like the whole iPad simulator like it

00:07:27 ◼   ► would just be any of this simulators

00:07:29 ◼   ► honestly would just be these comically

00:07:30 ◼   ► huge things it's like what I can have a

00:07:32 ◼   ► retina you know monitor that's this big

00:07:34 ◼   ► because that was what sold it for me

00:07:36 ◼   ► initially and then I just got used to it

00:07:38 ◼   ► and I really liked it and in some ways

00:07:40 ◼   ► like some of the things are kind of

00:07:41 ◼   ► silly like I like that my yeah like that

00:07:45 ◼   ► my like I have a work set up and that

00:07:47 ◼   ► works that up for me you know it's

00:07:48 ◼   ► downstairs and when I'm at work I'm at

00:07:50 ◼   ► work and I don't have a comb from my

00:07:52 ◼   ► most comfortable place to work

00:07:55 ◼   ► is down at that desk and I think it

00:07:56 ◼   ► helps with a temptation to like work in

00:07:58 ◼   ► other places or at other times when I

00:08:00 ◼   ► maybe shouldn't be working because you

00:08:03 ◼   ► know I feel very separate when I'm down

00:08:04 ◼   ► here working and so like I can still I

00:08:07 ◼   ► have a 12-inch MacBook that I can do

00:08:10 ◼   ► work on it's certainly slower and

00:08:12 ◼   ► smaller and not as good but I can get

00:08:14 ◼   ► worked on there but it's it's

00:08:15 ◼   ► uncomfortable and so it's a nice thing

00:08:16 ◼   ► that I have like the super comfortable

00:08:19 ◼   ► great place to work and then I have a

00:08:20 ◼   ► place that I can work and then yeah I've

00:08:24 ◼   ► just rather than dealing with the like

00:08:27 ◼   ► don't try all manner of things for

00:08:29 ◼   ► dealing with the kind of like the two

00:08:30 ◼   ► computer problem I mean there was

00:08:31 ◼   ► actually even a period where I had a an

00:08:34 ◼   ► external drive like I bought a external

00:08:38 ◼   ► SSD hard drive that I would boot from

00:08:42 ◼   ► and so I would plug it into my iMac and

00:08:44 ◼   ► boot from that for a boot from that and

00:08:47 ◼   ► then if I wanted to use it on my laptop

00:08:48 ◼   ► I would unplug it and plug it into my

00:08:49 ◼   ► laptop and boot from it there

00:08:51 ◼   ► which works like surprisingly well but

00:08:55 ◼   ► it's just like in kind of mind-bending

00:08:58 ◼   ► it's a little cumbersome cumbersome is a

00:09:01 ◼   ► good word yes there's not the most

00:09:03 ◼   ► straightforward and so instead I just

00:09:05 ◼   ► well I just work for my iMac and it's

00:09:08 ◼   ► worked out very well for me like I'm I I

00:09:10 ◼   ► was a little bit skeptical to start with

00:09:12 ◼   ► and I think I used to also come from a

00:09:14 ◼   ► world where I used to having the the two

00:09:17 ◼   ► monitor setup like I was a very I used I

00:09:21 ◼   ► typically had like my previous setup

00:09:23 ◼   ► often was the you know laptop up on a

00:09:24 ◼   ► stand so it wasn't like organ ah mcli

00:09:26 ◼   ► gonna cripple me and then a big main

00:09:31 ◼   ► display that was plugged into it I liked

00:09:33 ◼   ► having the two monitors but honestly

00:09:35 ◼   ► once like once the monitors went retina

00:09:36 ◼   ► I'd really don't miss having the two

00:09:39 ◼   ► monitors set up anymore like I'd like

00:09:41 ◼   ► having just one big retina monitor you

00:09:44 ◼   ► know and from a peaceful perspective

00:09:45 ◼   ► it's like I have four monitors I guess

00:09:46 ◼   ► from a you know the number of the amount

00:09:48 ◼   ► of detail that I'm able to to reasonably

00:09:50 ◼   ► look at so yeah and iMac is the machine

00:09:53 ◼   ► for me and really at this point you know

00:09:56 ◼   ► it was just a question of should I stick

00:09:57 ◼   ► with the the ret just a regular 5k iMac

00:10:02 ◼   ► or you know now that there's a you know

00:10:03 ◼   ► the pro model I am a pro you know is it

00:10:06 ◼   ► something that I should go to and in the

00:10:07 ◼   ► end I decided it made sense based on

00:10:10 ◼   ► just you know a variety of things that I

00:10:13 ◼   ► guess we'll get into a lot of him around

00:10:14 ◼   ► performance and ports and just trying to

00:10:17 ◼   ► you know it's like if I use this machine

00:10:20 ◼   ► so much I want to make sure that it's

00:10:21 ◼   ► the best that I can reasonably have

00:10:23 ◼   ► because it's it's what I use to make you

00:10:26 ◼   ► know my entire living so it may as well

00:10:27 ◼   ► be a sharp tool exactly and moving back

00:10:30 ◼   ► just a moment to the dual monitor thing

00:10:32 ◼   ► I I forgot the first mention that foot

00:10:34 ◼   ► like I too went through you know a

00:10:36 ◼   ► period where I used dual monitors and

00:10:38 ◼   ► you know and we're you know first one of

00:10:39 ◼   ► them was the laptop on a stand and then

00:10:41 ◼   ► you know a big monitor usually a that's

00:10:43 ◼   ► when I was using 24 inch monitors next

00:10:45 ◼   ► to it and then you know eventually I

00:10:48 ◼   ► upgraded to the laptop with a 30-inch

00:10:49 ◼   ► monitor which is the same resolution as

00:10:51 ◼   ► 27 s that are in IMAX and then I decided

00:10:56 ◼   ► that you know after years of using dual

00:10:58 ◼   ► monitors this way I learned that I

00:11:00 ◼   ► really don't use dual monitors very

00:11:03 ◼   ► effectively that

00:11:05 ◼   ► you know one of them would always be

00:11:07 ◼   ► like the primary and then this whatever

00:11:09 ◼   ► the secondary monitor was like off to

00:11:11 ◼   ► the right or whatever it was just like a

00:11:13 ◼   ► junk drawer like I would just I would

00:11:15 ◼   ► have like you know maybe I put like my

00:11:16 ◼   ► email client or you know Twitter or

00:11:19 ◼   ► iTunes over there but it's like that it

00:11:22 ◼   ► didn't really serve any purpose I wasn't

00:11:24 ◼   ► usually looking over there and it didn't

00:11:27 ◼   ► serve any purpose that just like hiding

00:11:29 ◼   ► those windows when I wasn't using them

00:11:30 ◼   ► wouldn't also serve just as well like I

00:11:32 ◼   ► didn't I found that I was not

00:11:35 ◼   ► well-suited to do monitors I thought I

00:11:37 ◼   ► was for a while and if I'm gonna have

00:11:40 ◼   ► you know only a 24 inch size sure give

00:11:43 ◼   ► me a second one but once I stuff up to

00:11:45 ◼   ► the 27 / 30 inch size I realized that

00:11:49 ◼   ► just having one larger monitor worked

00:11:52 ◼   ► better for me and it allowed me to avoid

00:11:54 ◼   ► a lot of just like bugs and OS weirdness

00:11:59 ◼   ► around dual monitors certain apps still

00:12:02 ◼   ► don't really behave well with dual

00:12:04 ◼   ► monitors there are certain other issues

00:12:06 ◼   ► like if one of them is your laptop

00:12:08 ◼   ► screen and the other is like an external

00:12:10 ◼   ► monitor then you'll have usually a

00:12:12 ◼   ► different pixel density between them so

00:12:14 ◼   ► like if you move the windows to the to

00:12:16 ◼   ► the you know other monitor it'll appear

00:12:18 ◼   ► physically smaller or bigger because the

00:12:20 ◼   ► two monitors are different pixel

00:12:22 ◼   ► densities and all sorts of you know just

00:12:24 ◼   ► weird little like OS weirdness around

00:12:27 ◼   ► having dual monitors where like clearly

00:12:30 ◼   ► Mac OS supports dual monitors but there

00:12:32 ◼   ► are certain things that get a little

00:12:34 ◼   ► iffy with them or that don't work the

00:12:36 ◼   ► way you expect or things like full

00:12:37 ◼   ► screen mode that kind of don't work at

00:12:39 ◼   ► all you know or have weird limitations

00:12:41 ◼   ► and it's just the entire computer

00:12:44 ◼   ► experience I find for myself and you

00:12:47 ◼   ► know this is personal preference but I

00:12:48 ◼   ► find for myself just works a lot more

00:12:51 ◼   ► smoothly and better and cleaner with

00:12:53 ◼   ► just with one monitor that is as big as

00:12:55 ◼   ► it can be rather than having two

00:12:57 ◼   ► separate ones yeah exactly and it's now

00:13:00 ◼   ► that I'm used to it it just feels like

00:13:02 ◼   ► the right way to do it and and if you

00:13:04 ◼   ► don't never feel lacking for space yeah

00:13:06 ◼   ► even when I'm doing you know have lots

00:13:08 ◼   ► of windows open like I use a I think a

00:13:10 ◼   ► tool cool call size up which I know

00:13:12 ◼   ► there's millions of these but where I

00:13:14 ◼   ► can easily make a window an exact

00:13:17 ◼   ► quarter of my screen

00:13:18 ◼   ► and I find that works really well to

00:13:21 ◼   ► just be able to like keep it organized

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00:14:57 ◼   ► our show so we both now have iMac pros

00:15:01 ◼   ► and I think we have almost identical

00:15:04 ◼   ► ones I know we both be both got the 10

00:15:06 ◼   ► core model I believe and then I got the

00:15:08 ◼   ► lower spec video card the 2 terabyte

00:15:13 ◼   ► drive and I think it's 64 gigs of memory

00:15:17 ◼   ► is what I ended up I don't know I had to

00:15:20 ◼   ► check - it's like it's enough yeah I got

00:15:23 ◼   ► the exact same setup but for gigs or 4

00:15:25 ◼   ► terabytes inside a 2 terabytes in

00:15:26 ◼   ► ancestry so yeah and so I mean I picked

00:15:29 ◼   ► that configuration a little bit from

00:15:30 ◼   ► your advice in terms of like the 10 the

00:15:32 ◼   ► 10 core seems to be a reasonable

00:15:34 ◼   ► trade-off in terms of cost and

00:15:36 ◼   ► performance and you know seem to be

00:15:38 ◼   ► reasonable I got a base the base video

00:15:40 ◼   ► card because I just I don't think

00:15:42 ◼   ► anything I do is ever gonna really tax

00:15:44 ◼   ► it or at least the if you know every now

00:15:46 ◼   ► and then when I happen to do some Final

00:15:49 ◼   ► Cut Pro work for like an app review or a

00:15:51 ◼   ► youtube video and the export takes a

00:15:53 ◼   ► little bit longer like it's so rare that

00:15:56 ◼   ► that's not something I'm worried about

00:15:58 ◼   ► but overall I think my initial

00:16:00 ◼   ► impressions are that it's like it is

00:16:02 ◼   ► noticeably faster it's noticeably

00:16:04 ◼   ► snappier and like is it's a tangible

00:16:07 ◼   ► improvement which you know you never

00:16:08 ◼   ► really know like it's also at this point

00:16:11 ◼   ► honestly it's the funny thing I've been

00:16:12 ◼   ► using it for a couple of weeks and so

00:16:14 ◼   ► now my main my brain is entirely

00:16:16 ◼   ► recalibrated itself - this is normal so

00:16:19 ◼   ► it's even hard to remember which is

00:16:20 ◼   ► always something to keep in mind with

00:16:22 ◼   ► these kind of improvements where you'll

00:16:24 ◼   ► notice them for a day or two and then

00:16:26 ◼   ► you just get used to it and then this is

00:16:28 ◼   ► the new normal and so when it takes you

00:16:30 ◼   ► know it's the things still aren't

00:16:32 ◼   ► instantaneous or there are many things

00:16:33 ◼   ► that still aren't like when I hit you

00:16:35 ◼   ► know build and run it still takes a

00:16:37 ◼   ► moment for Xcode to like do it stuff and

00:16:39 ◼   ► so until those times actually go to zero

00:16:42 ◼   ► it's still gonna I'm still gonna be

00:16:44 ◼   ► aware of performance as a thing but I

00:16:46 ◼   ► mean overall I'm very happy with it and

00:16:49 ◼   ► I think I'm it's more it was just about

00:16:51 ◼   ► it was time to upgrade from my my

00:16:55 ◼   ► earlier computer and I think it's a it's

00:16:57 ◼   ► a you noticeable upgrade whether or not

00:16:59 ◼   ► was in a central one it's hard to say I

00:17:01 ◼   ► think I was starting to notice some you

00:17:04 ◼   ► know like my older computer every now

00:17:06 ◼   ► and then would have some image retention

00:17:09 ◼   ► issues or things like that that I was

00:17:12 ◼   ► starting to notice that's like well it's

00:17:13 ◼   ► maybe it's just time to to move on and I

00:17:16 ◼   ► think the three years I think it had

00:17:17 ◼   ► been since I got that computer it seemed

00:17:18 ◼   ► like a reasonable time to upgrade but

00:17:21 ◼   ► like it's a noticeable upgrade it's a

00:17:22 ◼   ► good upgrade it's not like a

00:17:24 ◼   ► mind-bending like wow this is amazing

00:17:26 ◼   ► now I can do all these things that I

00:17:27 ◼   ► couldn't do before but you know

00:17:29 ◼   ► welcoming welcome improvement

00:17:31 ◼   ► nethertheless yeah I don't have much to

00:17:33 ◼   ► add I agree with everything you just

00:17:34 ◼   ► said all the exact same experiences

00:17:36 ◼   ► basically yeah and so one thing I both

00:17:39 ◼   ► say that I do do like is I like the

00:17:42 ◼   ► having extra ports on the back

00:17:44 ◼   ► I found that to be quite nice where we

00:17:47 ◼   ► have previously on the previous

00:17:48 ◼   ► generation IMAX I only had four USB a

00:17:52 ◼   ► plugs on the back whereas now I have

00:17:56 ◼   ► four of those and four USB C or yeah I

00:18:00 ◼   ► never know this probably that's under

00:18:01 ◼   ► both three ports maybe as well it's yeah

00:18:04 ◼   ► it's both it's their Thunderbolt 3 USB

00:18:05 ◼   ► see ports

00:18:06 ◼   ► great whatever those are the small

00:18:08 ◼   ► skinny ones I have four of those as well

00:18:10 ◼   ► and that's been a welcome improvement

00:18:12 ◼   ► but like I plug a backup drive into one

00:18:14 ◼   ► of those like I have a thunderbolt three

00:18:16 ◼   ► backup drive that I plug in there and I

00:18:19 ◼   ► do daily snapshots on to and so it's

00:18:21 ◼   ► nice to not have to because the one

00:18:23 ◼   ► thing that I can never find like I and

00:18:25 ◼   ► you can never have enough USBA ports and

00:18:28 ◼   ► I mean I even have one of them going

00:18:30 ◼   ► into a 12 port I think mine's only ten

00:18:34 ◼   ► port but yeah it's like because I mean

00:18:36 ◼   ► and they're all every one of them is

00:18:37 ◼   ► used because they're all going out to

00:18:39 ◼   ► some test device or Apple watch or

00:18:42 ◼   ► something so like I have so many things

00:18:44 ◼   ► in here that charge via USB so it's nice

00:18:46 ◼   ► to kind of have those and then I now I

00:18:49 ◼   ► have this other array of ports that I

00:18:51 ◼   ► can plug drives into and things that I

00:18:52 ◼   ► feel like should be plugged directly

00:18:54 ◼   ► into the computer because I never felt

00:18:56 ◼   ► good about plugging my backup Drive it

00:18:59 ◼   ► you know into the hub because I mean

00:19:01 ◼   ► it's fine it's a backup drive but it's

00:19:02 ◼   ► it's the kind of thing where you feel

00:19:04 ◼   ► like a direct connection would be good

00:19:06 ◼   ► for bandwidth purposes well and also a

00:19:08 ◼   ► lot of times direct connections are the

00:19:09 ◼   ► only reliable connections you know for a

00:19:11 ◼   ► lot of peripherals a lot of adapters and

00:19:13 ◼   ► hubs and things they are like 99%

00:19:15 ◼   ► reliable but not a hundred percent

00:19:17 ◼   ► reliable and for a you know for certain

00:19:19 ◼   ► tasks that matters a lot like you know

00:19:21 ◼   ► things that are related to like my

00:19:22 ◼   ► network connectivity where my audio

00:19:23 ◼   ► interfaces for podcasting I need those

00:19:25 ◼   ► to be a hundred percent and you know and

00:19:27 ◼   ► and you know my keyboard like I can't

00:19:30 ◼   ► have my keyboard drop you know 1% of its

00:19:32 ◼   ► keystrokes or repeat things or be weird

00:19:34 ◼   ► and I've I have had those issues with a

00:19:37 ◼   ► lot of hubs and adapters I've used in

00:19:39 ◼   ► the past so I rent you know this is a

00:19:41 ◼   ► much bigger problem on the laptops and

00:19:42 ◼   ► the desktops especially the more recent

00:19:44 ◼   ► ones but there's there's a lot of

00:19:47 ◼   ► reasons why the port's that are built-in

00:19:49 ◼   ► to computers tend to be 100% reliable

00:19:53 ◼   ► whereas anything that's broken out with

00:19:55 ◼   ► a hub or anything tends to not be quite

00:19:57 ◼   ► a hundred percent a lot

00:19:58 ◼   ► time yeah and so it's great to have

00:19:59 ◼   ► those extra ones and as a brief aside I

00:20:02 ◼   ► my main like the way I typically I'm

00:20:04 ◼   ► working when I have when I'm developing

00:20:06 ◼   ► is I'll have you know a iPhone depend on

00:20:09 ◼   ► which depending what I'm developing and

00:20:11 ◼   ► what I where I am you know one of my

00:20:12 ◼   ► various tests iPhones you know plugged

00:20:15 ◼   ► into you know plugged directly into my

00:20:17 ◼   ► computer with lightning I know you can

00:20:18 ◼   ► do the wireless version of this now but

00:20:20 ◼   ► I just like the lightning version

00:20:21 ◼   ► because I'm old and curmudgeonly but one

00:20:25 ◼   ► thing I was curious was is if the USBC

00:20:27 ◼   ► to lightning cable would be a faster way

00:20:30 ◼   ► to do that process than the USB a to

00:20:34 ◼   ► lightning cable and so this last week I

00:20:36 ◼   ► actually did an experiment that I

00:20:37 ◼   ► figured I mentioned on the show where I

00:20:38 ◼   ► you know is just basically benchmarking

00:20:41 ◼   ► how long it took to move files and

00:20:42 ◼   ► things back and forth when it was

00:20:44 ◼   ► plugged in via the USB C to lightning

00:20:47 ◼   ► versus USBA to lightning turns out it's

00:20:49 ◼   ► basically the same it's basically a wash

00:20:51 ◼   ► between the two which makes me think the

00:20:53 ◼   ► the bottleneck is on the phone rather

00:20:55 ◼   ► than on the on the computer because

00:20:58 ◼   ► clearly more data could be pushed

00:21:00 ◼   ► through the USB C port to the lightning

00:21:04 ◼   ► cable or the lightning cable is the the

00:21:07 ◼   ► bottleneck but along the shorter is I'm

00:21:08 ◼   ► feared I'd mention it here that it's I

00:21:10 ◼   ► pre while I appreciate having the extra

00:21:13 ◼   ► USB C ports because now when I can have

00:21:15 ◼   ► a dedicated direct connection as my

00:21:17 ◼   ► primary development plug it's not a it's

00:21:21 ◼   ► not there for speed it's pride is there

00:21:22 ◼   ► for a reliability and not having to go

00:21:24 ◼   ► through the hub so you know he went some

00:21:26 ◼   ► you lose some I suppose yeah actually

00:21:28 ◼   ► minor feedback on that I would be

00:21:30 ◼   ► interested to see if the test is the

00:21:32 ◼   ► same if you if you're using a 10.5 or a

00:21:35 ◼   ► twelve point nine inch iPad pro because

00:21:37 ◼   ► those I think are the only iOS devices

00:21:40 ◼   ► that actually have USB three support on

00:21:44 ◼   ► their Lightning port as far as I know

00:21:45 ◼   ► all of the iPhones and every iPad except

00:21:48 ◼   ► the ten point five and twelve point on

00:21:49 ◼   ► pros the the internal USB parts of their

00:21:53 ◼   ► lightning plug are USB two and I think

00:21:55 ◼   ► the USB a two lightning cables are also

00:21:57 ◼   ► USB two cables

00:21:58 ◼   ► whereas the USB C to lightning cable is

00:22:01 ◼   ► USB 3 cable and the ten point five and

00:22:03 ◼   ► twelve point I have USB C or have USB

00:22:05 ◼   ► three as their interfaces okay so maybe

00:22:08 ◼   ► it is just yes sir yeah I I was I will

00:22:11 ◼   ► I was testing with an iPhone 10 so I

00:22:13 ◼   ► didn't actually but I can certainly

00:22:14 ◼   ► repeat the test with an iPad or iPad Pro

00:22:17 ◼   ► and see if it works any better but not

00:22:19 ◼   ► the 9.7 that's that still use me - it

00:22:21 ◼   ► has to be a temper if I were to avoid 9

00:22:23 ◼   ► anyway yeah that's and and I have I've

00:22:26 ◼   ► found to like the wireless debugging I I

00:22:28 ◼   ► like it but it's I don't know if it's

00:22:32 ◼   ► like when I upgrade to a new beta or

00:22:33 ◼   ► something but well it just stops working

00:22:35 ◼   ► like I have to like plug in the phone to

00:22:37 ◼   ► reconfigure it and so I just like it's

00:22:38 ◼   ► kind of annoying yeah

00:22:40 ◼   ► and that's not what you want like you

00:22:41 ◼   ► don't want you don't want your debug

00:22:43 ◼   ► cycle to be ever so ever save every so

00:22:45 ◼   ► often just to stop working it's already

00:22:49 ◼   ► the most inconvenient part of

00:22:50 ◼   ► development is that sort of this the

00:22:52 ◼   ► cycle where you're kind of you're making

00:22:54 ◼   ► a change and then you're building into

00:22:55 ◼   ► pulling it to your phone and then going

00:22:56 ◼   ► back and forth so yeah I will continue

00:22:58 ◼   ► to use a plug directly plugged in and

00:23:01 ◼   ► now I'm using USB C to lightning just

00:23:03 ◼   ► because now I can have you know I have

00:23:05 ◼   ► an extra port that I can dedicate to

00:23:06 ◼   ► that and it seems to work really well

00:23:09 ◼   ► last thing I think it makes sense to

00:23:11 ◼   ► probably close off talking about it I

00:23:13 ◼   ► always find getting a new machine is

00:23:16 ◼   ► kind of an interesting process just as

00:23:18 ◼   ► it's an opportunity to see how portable

00:23:20 ◼   ► your setup is and I think as a slightly

00:23:24 ◼   ► more meta point like it's an important

00:23:25 ◼   ► thing if you're self-employed to think

00:23:29 ◼   ► about how portable your your setup is

00:23:31 ◼   ► because you are going to be it's like

00:23:34 ◼   ► you're responsible for being able to

00:23:35 ◼   ► continue work progress irrespective of

00:23:38 ◼   ► whatever is going on externally like if

00:23:41 ◼   ► your computer if your computer has a

00:23:43 ◼   ► horrible problem it has to go to the

00:23:45 ◼   ► shop and for two weeks or whatever you

00:23:49 ◼   ► have even if used you have to you know

00:23:50 ◼   ► buy a new computer for some you know you

00:23:53 ◼   ► spilled water on it and it breaks or you

00:23:55 ◼   ► know falls off your desk or whatever

00:23:57 ◼   ► like if something happens is you what

00:23:59 ◼   ► you need to be able to continue to work

00:24:00 ◼   ► and so it's an important thing I think

00:24:01 ◼   ► to use getting a new computer as an

00:24:05 ◼   ► opportunity to see how portable your set

00:24:07 ◼   ► up is to see how quickly you can get to

00:24:09 ◼   ► set up and going onto a new machine

00:24:11 ◼   ► because you know it's you want to

00:24:13 ◼   ► practice it when the stakes are low

00:24:15 ◼   ► rather than having to practice when the

00:24:17 ◼   ► stakes are high when suddenly like you

00:24:19 ◼   ► know you're in a situation where you

00:24:20 ◼   ► have a critical bug fix you need to do

00:24:22 ◼   ► and then your computer dies for some

00:24:24 ◼   ► reason and

00:24:24 ◼   ► and all of a sudden you you're in a

00:24:26 ◼   ► really big problem even if you went to

00:24:28 ◼   ► the Apple store bought our brand-new

00:24:29 ◼   ► laptop brought it home if you don't have

00:24:31 ◼   ► all the files you need if you don't have

00:24:33 ◼   ► if you're not kind of if your setup

00:24:34 ◼   ► isn't portable in that way if you're

00:24:36 ◼   ► entirely reliant on the data on that

00:24:38 ◼   ► drive like you're gonna be in big

00:24:40 ◼   ► trouble so hey it's always a good thing

00:24:43 ◼   ► to keep in mind that I trust and hope

00:24:45 ◼   ► that you have a robust backup solution

00:24:47 ◼   ► that allows you to make this process

00:24:49 ◼   ► straightforward that like I said I have

00:24:51 ◼   ► a daily clone of my main development

00:24:53 ◼   ► machine that I just always running and

00:24:56 ◼   ► it means that if ever my you know

00:24:58 ◼   ► something were to happen I will at most

00:25:00 ◼   ► lose a day's worth of work probably less

00:25:02 ◼   ► than that because of you know sinking

00:25:04 ◼   ► and check-ins and things but at worst it

00:25:07 ◼   ► would be that and it's a bootable backup

00:25:08 ◼   ► so if I worst came to worst I could just

00:25:10 ◼   ► get any laptop any Mac laptop ever plug

00:25:13 ◼   ► my you know plug my back up into that

00:25:15 ◼   ► boot from that and at least even if it's

00:25:17 ◼   ► not as optimized of a setup I could do

00:25:20 ◼   ► it there but anyway it's just worth

00:25:23 ◼   ► worth mentioning and when I was doing my

00:25:26 ◼   ► my my-my-my Gration to this new computer

00:25:27 ◼   ► I tried to kit in a keep track of the

00:25:29 ◼   ► things that become part of that and it's

00:25:31 ◼   ► like I need to move over all my code I

00:25:33 ◼   ► need to move over all my assets graphic

00:25:36 ◼   ► design assets like Photoshop files

00:25:38 ◼   ► things like that migrate my SSH keys so

00:25:42 ◼   ► I can connect all my machines all my

00:25:44 ◼   ► signing keys which you can there's a in

00:25:47 ◼   ► theory Xcode makes much easier now with

00:25:50 ◼   ► all of its tools but I in practice I

00:25:53 ◼   ► found it still was a bit cumbersome and

00:25:55 ◼   ► problematic but oh yeah it this is the

00:25:57 ◼   ► import and export developer profile

00:25:59 ◼   ► settings and xcode's account pane

00:26:01 ◼   ► yes I've had great luck with that it's

00:26:03 ◼   ► always worked for me it's like I always

00:26:05 ◼   ► find that it works maybe should because

00:26:07 ◼   ► I have so many apps but like I find that

00:26:09 ◼   ► it inevitably there's some little thing

00:26:11 ◼   ► that catches me out and I have to do

00:26:14 ◼   ► something at a slightly more manual

00:26:15 ◼   ► process or export the keychain from my

00:26:17 ◼   ► old computer and move it into my new

00:26:18 ◼   ► computer and kind of merge them together

00:26:20 ◼   ► things like that but overall it's

00:26:22 ◼   ► certainly gotten a lot better and that

00:26:24 ◼   ► the automatic code signing stuff helps a

00:26:26 ◼   ► lot with this too that at least once you

00:26:28 ◼   ► have the base signing Keys transferred

00:26:30 ◼   ► over then it can take care of a lot of

00:26:33 ◼   ► if you're missing other profiles or

00:26:35 ◼   ► things that can take care of that a lot

00:26:36 ◼   ► for you now

00:26:38 ◼   ► one thing that I do I have run into

00:26:39 ◼   ► recently that I was kind of a funny

00:26:41 ◼   ► thing is I forgot that I run a local

00:26:43 ◼   ► development database like I have a

00:26:46 ◼   ► Postgres database that's just running on

00:26:48 ◼   ► my main computer oh sure and which you

00:26:50 ◼   ► know it's like but it's I in my for some

00:26:52 ◼   ► reason I got so used to the fact that

00:26:53 ◼   ► all my databases are remote and hosted

00:26:55 ◼   ► on servers that I've got totally

00:26:58 ◼   ► forgotten that when I you know when I

00:27:00 ◼   ► kicked up a development environment in

00:27:02 ◼   ► this I can't connect to database it's

00:27:04 ◼   ► like what do you mean you can't connect

00:27:04 ◼   ► to the database and it's like oh right

00:27:06 ◼   ► that's because the database is on the

00:27:07 ◼   ► computer that's sitting on the floor

00:27:09 ◼   ► next to me and so I can remember to go

00:27:10 ◼   ► and get the actual like the data from

00:27:12 ◼   ► the database and move it over into the

00:27:14 ◼   ► into the new the new computer even

00:27:17 ◼   ► though I had setup Postgres on it as

00:27:18 ◼   ► part of my process one thing I like to

00:27:21 ◼   ► do for this is keep certain files and

00:27:24 ◼   ► scripts for doing new computer setup in

00:27:26 ◼   ► Dropbox I have a whole whole Dropbox

00:27:29 ◼   ► folder for basically like setting up a

00:27:30 ◼   ► new computer and it concludes a couple

00:27:32 ◼   ► of shell scripts for doing things like

00:27:34 ◼   ► configuring homebrew and and installing

00:27:37 ◼   ► the home the homebrew apps that I use

00:27:39 ◼   ► you know on my Mac you know so that I

00:27:41 ◼   ► can run that whenever there's no upgrade

00:27:42 ◼   ► or whenever there's you know a new

00:27:44 ◼   ► machine or clean install and and just

00:27:46 ◼   ► like a like you know checklists I always

00:27:48 ◼   ► look at KC's checklist and move into a

00:27:50 ◼   ► computer that here on his blog willing

00:27:52 ◼   ► to because it's great it could lose a

00:27:54 ◼   ► lot of stuff that I might sometimes

00:27:56 ◼   ► forget like you know D authorizing and

00:27:58 ◼   ► reauthorizing certain applications and

00:28:00 ◼   ► iTunes and things like that

00:28:02 ◼   ► well yeah it's it's it's something that

00:28:05 ◼   ► it's really nice to like write down

00:28:06 ◼   ► keeping a list and keep that list

00:28:09 ◼   ► somewhere that that you will find it and

00:28:10 ◼   ► that's obvious like Dropbox and

00:28:12 ◼   ► everybody that there will be steps to

00:28:13 ◼   ► the migration process that you want to

00:28:16 ◼   ► remember or that neo you need to

00:28:18 ◼   ► remember that you will very likely

00:28:20 ◼   ► forget if it's not in a list like you

00:28:22 ◼   ► could in theory use like migration

00:28:24 ◼   ► assistant or like make your make a clone

00:28:27 ◼   ► and deploy that clone on to your

00:28:28 ◼   ► computer but I really think the process

00:28:30 ◼   ► of going through that checklist and

00:28:31 ◼   ► going through and rebuilding is so

00:28:34 ◼   ► useful and because it only happens every

00:28:36 ◼   ► couple of years it's something that's

00:28:38 ◼   ► worthwhile doing and I will say always

00:28:40 ◼   ► keep a snapshot clone of your old

00:28:43 ◼   ► machine and keep that drive like forever

00:28:47 ◼   ► and I have found I've started he said

00:28:48 ◼   ► habit I got into well

00:28:50 ◼   ► I keep the last snapshot of every

00:28:52 ◼   ► development machine I've ever had and

00:28:53 ◼   ► even if I end up discipline you know

00:28:55 ◼   ► getting rid of that computer I sell it

00:28:57 ◼   ► or I give it to a friend or a family or

00:28:58 ◼   ► whatever like whoever ends up happening

00:28:59 ◼   ► I have a snapshot of that machine and

00:29:01 ◼   ► the number of times that has proved

00:29:04 ◼   ► invaluable for going back and finding

00:29:05 ◼   ► some file but I thought I'd checked in

00:29:07 ◼   ► but I hadn't and it's you know it's it's

00:29:10 ◼   ► come back time and time again to save me

00:29:11 ◼   ► so I highly recommend just take you know

00:29:13 ◼   ► take a snapshot put it on a hard drive

00:29:14 ◼   ► label what it is put it on a shelf you

00:29:17 ◼   ► never know when you're gonna that can

00:29:18 ◼   ► come into handy in the future so always

00:29:20 ◼   ► yeah recommended practice it's a good

00:29:22 ◼   ► tip all right thanks listening everybody

00:29:24 ◼   ► and we'll talk to you next week bye