00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick online was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► recorded on Tuesday January 23rd 2018 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► I'm Merlin how's it going how did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/10">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► missing yeah all right in a week no I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/26">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► feel like we should come clean no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► I never come clean the dentist I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/40">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► have done it today it's okay it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► right it's all right be fine I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► rainstorm today here big rainstorm yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► you know in the morning it it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► clear and and almost almost sunny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► now the big storms coming in a storm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/67">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► interested in the weather my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► really cares about the weather your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► memory serves your mom goes pretty deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► on weather oh my sister's even worse oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► yeah just all they want to talk about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► the freakin weather and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► thought that Susan was more like looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► at the stars kind of situation oh she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► loves looking at the stars - yeah yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► stars are yab that stars are like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► what we call old web we're seeing we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► seeing we're seeing a star what a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► look like millions of years ago is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► you know the entire universe could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► just a molecule in the end of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► so what's oh wait a minute so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► saying could be in my finger I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/115">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► it could be in your finger universe does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► not know where that thing has been MGM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► cr-v we could we could right now be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► molecule in the thumb Oh some giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► being who has his thumb up do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► kids still get tripped out when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► think about things like that when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► through that like stony like first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► you really contemplate the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► infinity the first time you wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► millenniums you think they still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► those kinds of reveries oh yeah I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► that they don't you have to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► bet you get Netflix and you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► snapchat you know they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► contemplate things that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► recursive and hurtful to the brain it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► not you know I think that we didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► them in the popular culture and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► you heard when you heard something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/164">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► well when Donald Sutherland is passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► adjoin around and they're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► it actually had the force of novelty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► sure and I think if you grew up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► soaked in stuff it would be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► absolutely the moment it actually occurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► to you I think it still got to be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/188">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► daughter's mind I've tried so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► I've been I've been trying to get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► freaked out about infinity for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► she still she still hasn't freaked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► I mean I still struggle with with string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► theory think about it all the time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► just can't there's just some things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► can't resolve yeah I mean does does P [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► equal NP is a big question let's check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► reddit but we I mean you know multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► universes I mean you could sit and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► still still mind-blowing I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► one reason I was so attracted I had very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► little exposure to philosophy before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► college and then I read up I read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► existentialist stuff in my my gap year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► and I got very interested in philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► because it seemed like kind of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► graduate degree kind of thing like idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► of epistemology was very fascinating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► me like how do we know what we know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► that would just turn my brain maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► just a simple farm boy from Cincinnati [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► but like that kind of thing would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► bend my brain you you think therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► you are I did a paper on Descartes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► remember had then the final paragraph is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► maybe second less paragraph it had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► so who is this guy we call God that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► kind of work I was doing that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► you know don't put Descartes before day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/279">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► Oh God dad I really put that I put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/283">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► in a paper oh no because so I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► professor who allowed us to be creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► hmm and and I did eh this is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► history of ideas history of ideas and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► did a song about Descartes like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► style like Jonathan Richmond I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► could really get into it it was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► good yeah we the the the other students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/312">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► were like yeah that's fun yeah yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/335">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► yeah you know there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► that that that constitute an education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► aren't there oh yeah don't don't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► your school get in the way of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► education oh thank you thank you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/351">TS</a>]
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00:06:16 ◼ ► let me guess is it almost all reggae [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► yeah I went to the I went to the women's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► March the other day and one of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► things about big marches I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► a while back sure this is a how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► weeks ago at this point but uh but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► of the great things about those rallies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► is that there is always a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► there's always a sort of a gray area I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► don't I wouldn't personally consider it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► a gray area but some people clearly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► where they want to use that opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/402">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► to also pitch their their big program oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/408">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► yes and every demonstration whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► of any size I've ever been to you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► maybe call them fringe characters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► you can get you got people with a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► important message and they're gonna use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/425">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► that as a platform yeah like you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► a big rally like that like of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► labor unions are there and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► saying you know we want you to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the labor union because we have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► women in the Union yes you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► you can make a case like oh okay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► this is a you know absolutely absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► right it's still a co-optation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► idea but you can kind of go with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► but there was there were a group of guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► standing there all men by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/456">TS</a>]
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00:07:43 ◼ ► freedom struggle of Palestinian women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and then they had a bunch of material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► about how Israel was committing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► genocide okay and it was like boom all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► right I mean maybe if there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► women that were holding that banner it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► might go a little bit further but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► seems like he just tacked the word woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► on to the end of that right sure yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► but they slather not some woman sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► they put some woman sauce on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► then there was a group that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► protecting the elephants especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► women voices like that's a that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► that's another iteration and then at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► certain point oh my god I really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► wanted to because there was a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► kind of corner where the March was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► turning that a lot of these people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► had a raid and I just wanted I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/504">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► leather car coat from Costco standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► there going you want to check out my CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► I'm so much respect for women I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► get it out on the Philips Compact this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/530">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► respect women women women are somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/536">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► sometimes they confuse but they know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► news women break my heart and make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/545">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► fight their women this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► Roderick on the line is brought to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/559">TS</a>]
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00:09:33 ◼ ► time you spend a third of your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/573">TS</a>]
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00:09:37 ◼ ► life doing anything you'd want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► sure it's the best that can possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and that's why you need Casper Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/580">TS</a>]
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00:09:51 ◼ ► places so you ask yourself what goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► comfortable well I'll tell you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/595">TS</a>]
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00:11:42 ◼ ► not to fret about the Congress not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► fall not even to follow that story yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► but I know it's hard I know it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/707">TS</a>]
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00:11:56 ◼ ► you go to the big one last year last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► complication that kept me out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► March okay but you went this year what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► are your impressions of the of the March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► once the March got going I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► it's it's really exciting like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► lot there's a lot about that March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/742">TS</a>]
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00:12:31 ◼ ► little girls with signs their dad made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► for them well you know there are those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► there's the there's the comedic aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► of it which is kind of fun is marching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► behind like several women that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► wearing hardhats and they all had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► jackets on from the Carpenters Union and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► they weren't marching as part of a union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► they were just carpenters you had their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► hard hats on were like here we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/771">TS</a>]
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00:12:59 ◼ ► by their presence and that story is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► story that that often gets neglected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/782">TS</a>]
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00:13:09 ◼ ► typically look at a construction site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► buildings are getting built and we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► see who's there and we don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► inner politics and when we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► equal pay for equal work or we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► about the workplace we kind of typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► picture of an office environment yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/805">TS</a>]
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00:13:30 ◼ ► to stipulate I am NOT making fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► these movements or of this March I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► merely groaning about the situation in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/813">TS</a>]
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00:16:03 ◼ ► were marching very close to me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► were two women in their 60s and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► were both about five feet tall and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► were at first not clearly a couple they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► were just too diminutive ladies in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► 60s but one of them is holding a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► hand lettered sign that said that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► like us it wasn't even a sign it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► just kind of like a piece of notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► paper that she had written on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► laminated and it said we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► back and as the as the March progressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► I realized oh my god they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► married and they give every indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► of having been together for 40 years you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1007">TS</a>]
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00:16:54 ◼ ► one another that just is like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► like they've probably been together for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► a long long time and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► demonstrative they're not even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► holding hands they're just walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► together with this sign we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► back and it was you know so so powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► and I and I honestly believe having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► traveled as much as I've been lucky to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► do in America and around the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► most people on either side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► political aisle confronted with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► two actual human beings are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► be against it the people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► against gay marriage are against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► because they're against an idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► they think and they're against a notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► that we're trying to cram it down their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► throats or I feel it feels like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► idea of what a family is which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► they would say d legitimizes there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► again it's like Ghostbusters it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► you're ruining my childhood by being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► married right but if they were living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► a place where they knew these two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► there are couples like this in Alabama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► just like there are in Seattle a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► percent when confronted with actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► people pretty much everybody with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► exception of a few crazy zealots is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► gonna look at them and go oh well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► I make an exception for my for my aunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► and her friend you know like and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► not especially because they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► not too vocal about it maybe yeah sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► of like well there's well there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► one guy I work with who's really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► and he's nearing retirement age and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► pretty sure he's you know special but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► could he gets a pass because he's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► low-key about it it's not in my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► about it and it's not the perfect world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► that we would that we I in the left like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► idealize where everyone is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► like completely forward-facing about who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► they are and accepted broadly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► everyone you know it it is a kind of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► the right side of the aisle there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► this there's all this tremendous kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► like what we what we think of as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► confronted by actual people yeah pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► much everybody is like you cannot deny a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► thing like that you can't look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► and say to their face like no you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► you should not be entitled to this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► should not be entitled to this happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► you do it's nobody would ever stand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► front of those people I mean the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► get the idea some kind of Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► Spencer type like yelling at them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► like after having a ten minute fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► minute conversation maybe you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► plane or something like that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► never you would it would be a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► harder person to turn to them and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► well I understand what you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► do here but this is antithetical to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► everything that America is and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► you're evil yeah I mean and you do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► that I mean there are definitely parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► that reject their own children fewer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► I think what's I think what's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► about Trump I know we never talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► I think what's crazy is that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► finally given the lie to the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► the that conservative politically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► conservative people are the scolds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► the moralizing like finger wag they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► gonna hold privately and publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► they're gonna they have a standard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► they will hold people to for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► you would see that played out in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► of like what you have to make this cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► you know you know you don't have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► this cake for gay people or you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► have to provide women's health care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► services because right I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► there's those sorts of things but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► when you see what's happening with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► fairly well documented allegations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► against the president it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► seem to matter and Mike Pence is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► cool with it it just doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► right I mean it's not like it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► that I had that Trump had relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► with sex workers while he while his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► was pregnant we had a four month old son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► duh Trump is famous for for riding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► but with that pedophile guy yeah who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► know would like teenagers like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► mean he was the source of a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► New York Post stories about Marla maples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► I mean he was the one that encouraged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► her to go on say was the best best sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► environment of people thinking he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► very competent horndog but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► really interesting because during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► Clinton years when when Bill Clinton was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► being pounded for his for his like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► dalliance ah's and his indiscretions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► his predatory behavior we I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► assumed that that was being motivated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► this religious right that we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► talking about for for 40 years and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► they were that they were pretty and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► were pursuing this out of a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► this sort of moral like overactive moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► indignation about post moral majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► whether you agreed with them or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► I happened very much not to agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► them you'd at least given the creditors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► well you know whether or not this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► something that they enjoy doing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► feel by their faith and ethics they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► obligated to call these things out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► anybody where they see it right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► it's a good it's a mr. kind of mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► and that gave some clarity to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► division between left and right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► we on the left could look at them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► say and see like okay they are bound by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► a code that includes their religion it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► includes their culture and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► internally consistent so they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► are an understandable and worthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► adversary even if we don't agree I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► we don't agree with a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► fundamental premises but they are acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► at least they're not inconsistent as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► as we can see I'm avoiding the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► hypothetical but but at least at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► on the face of it they may be in prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► I utterly disagree with them but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► was an internal consistency to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► but it also contextualized us right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► because as live liberals we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► empathetic we were we were the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► were open minded and now or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► relativistic there's another word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► relativistic sure you can see you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► see the context in something and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► liberal arts II thing of saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► well yes but yes but so we wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► necessarily see it as a zero no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► right and we were multicultural we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► able to say like well we you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► need to incorporate things from around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► the world and sometimes these cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► differences can be advantageous you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► it was a kind of m'as how we saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► social aspect of left and right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► wasn't always the case you know back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► the back before World War two back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► before the civil rights movement the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► Republican Party was mostly focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► economics and they had a pretty liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► view about what a person should be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► to their own home I'm from a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► libertarian standpoint it was a temple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► yeah and it was the Democrats that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► all about segregation and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► about you know the Democrats before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► World War two were not like socially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► progressive looks sort of the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► mm-hmm but now we're in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► where the where the right side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► aisle has pretty much for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► said you know although we're Christians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► and although we you know we believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► God and country we think Trump's doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► great job and although he is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► coke-fueled like prostitute abusing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► I mean he's basically he personifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► everything that we would normally hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► disparity at the late 80s yeah we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► love what he's doing he's just sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► it he's sticking it to the Liberals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► that's what we love but what's crazy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► the Left have become the scolds like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► are we are in an era right now where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► left is extremely moralizing and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► very much like driven by a by a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► collective energy that is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► that's using shame and using a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► the sort of things that we would have 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► years ago called moral majority tactics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► I guess in service of a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► ideology but but but it's it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► strange role reversal because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► thing when I went back to my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► reunion in Anchorage right before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► election and I talked to a bunch of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► snowmobile salesmen and and diehard sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► of Trump people yeah they were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► don't you don't see what's coming bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► and I was like yeah I see what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► a Hillary Clinton administration where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► the world moves into the future and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► were like no no no that's not what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► gonna happen Trump's gonna win and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► like there's no way in a million years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► Trump's gonna win he didn't accuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► anyone yeah and they were like no no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► don't see you don't get it you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► what's happening and in talking to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► over the course of a long reunion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► weekend I realized oh they think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► the fun ones they think they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► they're hilarious they think they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► ones that know how to party they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► they are the ones who have the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► temperature of what America is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► the sort of Ted Nugent version of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► fun and cool and they looked at me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► my culture I mean they know I'm fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► right but they look at that liberalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► and they think you guys aren't fun you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► don't have fun anymore you just are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► uptight and you're so you know this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► careless caricature of the left as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► sort of what we used to say about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► moral majority just like no fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► caught up in in our cane and archaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► ideas about what people are and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► just like that was kind of that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► of when I got off Twitter I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► like oh shit I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► I'm in the upside down now yeah I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► something on a political podcast I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► listening to you this morning and guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► said something that I thought was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► one of those things where once you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► can't can't unhear it get such a useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► paradigm is there are certain kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► issues where people rarely go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► their original feeling people tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► only go one way and he said he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► talking in particular about daca and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► like once you know these people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► daca recipients and like once you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► once you've met them once you've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► you're very rarely going to become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► strident about thinking they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► thrown out of the country you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► he also used the example of gay marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► where honestly if a big part of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► in addition to certainly obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► mean this is sounds so stupid but stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► like you know maybe Ellen DeGeneres but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► stuff like seeing more gay people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► on TV and knowing more gay people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► out there that weren't dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► pedophiles that was certainly a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► it but another part of it was like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► you it isn't like you know once you meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► two women who've been together since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► 1960s yeah and it can be and are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► smart and charming you don't go oh boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► you know this makes me even madder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► this you know I mean there aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► many people who start out Pro gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► marriage and then go the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► there aren't them people who start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Pro daca and go back the other way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► don't I don't have a huge filter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► this it's a two-hour old idea to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► I'm really interested of this idea like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► how many issues are there like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► we're once people get enough exposure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► the actual people they look at the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► really differently I'm reminded of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► peanuts comic where Linus is arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► with Lucy and he says I love humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► it's people that I hate I I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► think that's absolutely true and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► it is about abstract thinking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► the once you are once you're capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► seeing things at one abstraction which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► by which I mean like not the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► immediately in front of you but you meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► you meet that couple that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► extrapolate that to imagine that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► abstraction because we here in southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► Washington you know that there was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► McSweeney's article the other day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► that parodied the the journalists that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► are like going around talking to Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► was just literally the next thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► going to say yes but there was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► those here in Washington where some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► reporter went down to the conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► like southwestern corner of Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► where they grow a lot of cranberries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► said like you know how does it feel down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► here now that you know now that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► cracking down on immigrants and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► sheriff and almost everybody they talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► like well we want to crack down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► immigrants because they are their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► rapists and criminals coming into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► country but what that law has done is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► like they came and got my neighbor Pablo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► who's a great dude and he's he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► raper he's been here four years he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► like he was invaluable to the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► and then they came and got those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► that have been working on them but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► might say every single talking point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► that everybody on the Left has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► saying right I mean right down to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► like this like this polish doctor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► Michigan who doesn't know polish because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► he's been here since he was three right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► that's like you how could you send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► back there there's not even any place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► send him back to he's never been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► and you're like yeah that's that sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that's kind of why we think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► bad idea they know but everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► their Pablo right but they don't extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► it right they don't extend it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► abstraction of of and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► statistics are so interesting like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► follow this guy on Twitter named Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► roser ro ser who is a statistician and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► he really stays kind of above politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► I think he's German and he you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► to not to stereotype no but he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► German statistician mm-hmm and and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► you know he's always posting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► graphs and sort of very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► takes on on things just just crunching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► the numbers but you look at the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► and it's like well I mean my mom sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► something the other day that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► immigrants from sub-saharan Africa have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► such a greater percentage of graduate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► degrees I mean they're like a moderator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► college graduation rate then people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► are born in the United States yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► it's just impossible to argue with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► statistics but it is but again that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► an abstraction that it's I think much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► - to see the abstraction in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► direction which is well I watch cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► every week and every single person they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► pull over an arrest is black used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► watch that show therefore every criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► in America is black right because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► what's on cops and that's that's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► easier to apprehend then wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► the people that are immigrating to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► United States from other countries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► the best educated and best qualified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► people because it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► immigrate to America you have to put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► it's insane yeah and you know and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► people that are entering the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► illegally are people who are aspiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► you know they are people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► seeking something great and not people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that are complacent or lazy or dumb you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► nobody makes it all the way to America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► and gets a shitty job from wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► they're coming from because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► just lazy you know they're enterprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► but it's you know I don't know speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► as someone who's a liberal it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► hard for me not to feel like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► just that my views are better it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► my views are more accurate and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► all maybe that at least in your own head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► is slightly better tested well or I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► just just there's so much there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► so much reckoning going on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► strangers there's just so much reckoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► going on about millions of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► are disadvantaged culturally in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► that so many of that 32% are 36% are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► and yet they have found some way to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► a grievant in every cultural improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► in the last 50 years every every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► somebody who's not them gets something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► it's a zero-sum game like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► everything that somebody who has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► been treated like shit for their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► our life gets is necessarily one less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► thing that they get in their mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► tends to be the yeah it tends to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► feeling but then like today oh sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► a couple couple weeks ago the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► has decided you know because he's saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► coal so now he's gonna put a tariff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► imports of solar energy things so energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► one of the one of the bright spots if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► one of the bright spots in growth like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► one in five new jobs suppose something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► like that as it is in solar it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► way way up while Cole's was going way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► way down and now they're making it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► costly to have this this huge exploding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► growth growth area that actually could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► benefit the people who still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► they're gonna be back in the mind any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► day now but and that's an example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► band I think is really intriguing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► experiencing right now which is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► think that there are a lot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► America that will celebrate that event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► based exclusively on this idea that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► a it's a big middle finger to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► hippies and I mean I drove across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► country a couple of years ago when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► bought my suburban which admittedly is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► hilariously like old janky American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► truck and through the whole center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► the country I encountered many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► times those guys who are burning coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► smokestack on their diesel truck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► they adjust B the mixture so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► they slam on the gas it just sends huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► black clouds of smoke out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► tailpipes with no purpose other than to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► give you that Ted Nugent fuck you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► they're not driving those trucks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► middle of San Francisco they're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► them in Nebraska they're saying fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► there aren't any around them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► just doing it as like as a middle finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► to people who aren't even watching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► that that conviction that that strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► strong feeling that the real enemy is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2273">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► this caricature of someone kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► unlike you or I but certainly like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► we are closer or more adjacent to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► caricature than we are to the to to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► the audience and a Darius Rucker concert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► but but this idea of someone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► college degree who thinks they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► smarter than you who wants to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► unquote ram down your throats these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► ideas that that really have nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► do with the fact that you get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► pretty well with your gay neighbors but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► have everything to do with the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► we are we have a vision which is of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► to this future universe where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► there's no manufacturing in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► anymore that it's all been outsourced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► and the government is in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► everything take your guns away take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► guns away except that the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► allows you to do whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► include including be a pedophile or a or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► like sex with animals or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► that they extend this this criticism out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► to you know like this weird this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► idea of a liberal as someone who both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► wants to have complete like lawlessness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► on one side what they considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► lawlessness on one side of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► they want to be this like Caligula n-- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► Bacchanalia on the one side even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► they're taking away everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► right so you're no longer allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► worship your god you're no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► allowed to salute your flag we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► support the troops we don't allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► have guns we tax all your money away to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► give it to undeserving poor people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► abortion having trans people abortion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► having trans people who are just living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► on welfare and this is the vision of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► world that we that that that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► perceive us desiring and a lot of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► dupes right we are leftist dupes of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► have taken the red pill we haven't taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► the red pill that's right the Jews are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► controlling our government and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► are just like enthrall we're in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► kind of days of of almost like romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► thrall to the idea of inclusiveness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► is going to create a world where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► under Sharia law so it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► some kind of like a 50s movie where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► there's a there's a working ranch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► some sissy dandy in a suit comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► visit and then wants to tell them how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► run a ranch mm-hmm right or like yeah is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► sitting in the sitting in the scenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► carriage Fanning himself with that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► a lace hanky and then telling you how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► run the ranch while he's sitting on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► ass mining Bitcoin well you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► way it's almost it's closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► protection guy in Ghostbusters movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► that movie you know yeah he's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► good guy this man has no dick when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► watch that film you hear everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► about it is like this guy is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► version of a Carter Administration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► bureaucrat mm-hm and the the only way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► makes money is by causing trouble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► hardship for hardworking Americans for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► hardworking Americans who are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► to go so it makes them feel good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► it's a politically a weird movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► though because the Ghostbusters are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► devil-may-care but they're really I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► when you look at it now sure there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► are you know they're kind of politically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► pretty Trumpy in terms of of how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► approach dealing you know dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► government people I'm watching almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► any thriller from the last 30 years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► the bad guys always the administrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► right well no but also just the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► guys I mean certainly you go would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► go back to something like Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► Bronson Klee nice wait but I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► even like I rewatched taken which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► movie that I like a lot I hadn't watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► it since the last election and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► watched it the other night and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► like wow this is really it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► testament to how dads are right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► by any means necessary we do what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► need to do because daughter it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► mean it's really it is it is in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► ways very much like a death wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► kind of moving in a lot of ways I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► you mean just like that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► like the the non authoritarian what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► but like oh like in that movies just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► like he keeps worn everything taken no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► is this is this retired like ops guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► you know now he's away from his his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► and daughter the daughters gonna go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► Europe and he's like no no you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► and if you go you got to take this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► and answer my calls a spoiler alert she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► gets abducted he has to go and find her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► they've now drugged her and turned her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► into a prostitute she and her friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► he's got to go rescue her from all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► Eastern European baddies and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► he just beats it's great movie he beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► everybody and saves them and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► you were shown that once a fraud dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► always knew what was right and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► that violence that he has had inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► him all that time was there for a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► yeah yeah I mean that's the best lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► to be gleaned that's the cookie cutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► thriller lesson right the yeah the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► the the quiet Stern dad has just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► pushed a little too far yeah had had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► truth about the world the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► and I bet that libertarianism combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► with that sort of I guess what what now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► we would just describe with with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► other with no other conditions we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► just call it patriarchy or patriarchal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► mentality I mean that's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► ribbon through everything yeah and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► there was a time until recently where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► where our take on that was a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► complex than it is now and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► feel like this is a time when we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► afford to be complex this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► thing that has caused me to to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► personally like it this is just a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► for me to sit out and and it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► it's very hard for me to look at things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► and not look at them and try to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► complexity in them and when you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► talk at least publicly now about ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► that are complex you're immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► challenged because it doesn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► revolutionary yeah that's right if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► living in a bicameral world now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► feels very black and white and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► can't say like you can't really approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► anything at least publicly at least in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► public-facing way without taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► pretty dogmatic side and I just can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► just can't swallow it but yeah but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► know in in our history a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► things that we look at and say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► what is American you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► made made us exceptional that is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► have always talked about as the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► supremacy or to patriarchy there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► are attitudes that are distinctively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► American that we have made us proud for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► 200 years and that those ideas are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► individuality individualism I guess more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► than individuality and that can-do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► I mean all that all that sort of go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► get'em USA rah-rah stuff but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► lot of there's a lot interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► it there's a lot that's true about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► and and I think on the right side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► aisle they feel like they are the ob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► inheritors or the protectors of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► those enshrined ideas and and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► Left I mean the you know there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► of liberal Patriots and I and I include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► myself like when I see people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► left say America is a garbage country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► and always has been I'm like I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► you're wrong like you're just deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► profoundly wrong and that might feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► good to say and that might feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► like year on their side of the room I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► mean Jimmy but it was an evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► garbage fire like the the strides were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► taken every few years where things got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► little better in one way no they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► not always good and sometimes it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► take a miniature revolution but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► that's what is it the long arc of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► history right is that like things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► have gotten better in many quantifiable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► ways for a lot of people and it's taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► a long time to get around to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► people who need that and that progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► was being made for a time it's it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► progress is still being it's weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► Puttanesca though to find this both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► sides ISM and going oh well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► unless you were this kind of person so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► yeah that was true but like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► working on that that actually is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► actually is getting better it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► it's I mean I know that's super easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► me to say but I think there's evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► out there that until fairly recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► interesting upward incline and now now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► think it's just a waiting I mean hate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► cut to the chase but a lot of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► just no demographics King demographics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► game it's just a matter of waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► age out the assholes well it is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► mean I don't think it's easy for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► say I think it is I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► challenge to remind ourselves that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► you watch the news every day and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► see you know if you see the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► that are being reported in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► the in the way that they are like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► this feels like a time where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► evil is ascendant but actually things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► are getting better everyday in everyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► and the you know the rule of law is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► gonna triumph and I mean what you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► think of is ten years ago all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► that all the terrible things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► happening all the people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► getting deported all survived 1968 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► can survive almost anything well sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► would survive 1985 but I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► yeah good you're breaking up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► hello hey are you BitTorrent hello hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► I hear you do you know I'm I hear you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► think you fire me yeah keep going I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► put a marker here and take this out okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► I just I mean I believe in the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► experiment I don't believe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► United States is a trash fire I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► and you look at every other nation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► earth and compare our founding to theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► or to their status then and if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► back to 1900 if you go back to 1865 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► you go anywhere in history and do a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► by line comparison to what was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► in the United States you're gonna find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► that there aren't very many places that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► you can look at and say oh wow the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► was really evil compared to right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► the United Kingdom abolished slavery a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► lot sooner than America did but sooner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► by a factor of 40 years like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► like it's not like Britain had outlawed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► slavery in 1500 and we were some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► South Africa that persisted like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► an evolving process and you know to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► back at the history of American say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► we're we have blood on our hands is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► to fail to look back at the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► the world and see that everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► blood on their hands that no one there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► no nation on earth that is absolved if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► the nation of Belgium continued to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► exploit their colonies in Africa until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► the fifties and exploit them in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► that would would you know burn your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► eyebrows oh is that like Congo yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► a dozen colony yeah the Congo which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► an enormous the the entire Central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► Africa and they you know they were I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► mean they were brutal there but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► looks at Belgium and says like oh what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► knee I mean I guess the Belgians do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► people in Europe that know that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► but the whole idea that like America is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► a terrible place it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► wrong we have been in we have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► setting the tempo for 200 years for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► extension and expansion of rights to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► greatest number of people and political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► rights and social evolution like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► been happening here and other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► have other countries have been following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► in our wake and I know there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► of Europeans who want to who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► point to their their own country's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► contributions to that but I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► would have a hard time making a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► that certainly that that many countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► in Western Europe have been working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► that project any earlier than about 1960 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► you know what I mean like I mean so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► and the United Kingdom obviously like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► separate they have a sort of separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► dispensation but they're it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► they've been a liberal democracy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► whole time but you know it's I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► I'm rehashing something that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► has said every day for over a year now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► but the part the part and why I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► about Congress in particular is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► know whether or not what James Buchanan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► you know Herbert Hoover warren g harding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► characters that you run into the maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► aren't the best example of American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► exceptionalism but like by and large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► most people who were in the White House [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3173">TS</a>]
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00:59:36 ◼ ► doing a ton of damage it's not like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► to Bladerunner in two weeks and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► we'll never get back to avatar like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► a continuum and and progress is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► made so on the one hand I just I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► caution like you get into a new cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► and it news is built on creating panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► people mm-hmm it's very very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► take one big step back and not be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► state of panic because in fact panicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► feels like action you know it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► you're engaged it feels like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► doing something to be in a state of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► anxious like but like anxious stress all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► the time yeah but like my I do believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► that with Trump there there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► putting that genie back into the bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► irrevocably but what Trump and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► Congress are I think is a product of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► basically 50 years of ground game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► the Conservatives have been playing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► the Liberals have failed at and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► partly it is in the nature of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► animals like liberalism thinks of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► as an over arching worldview that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► philosopher-king we believe in the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► that if people are educated they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► make good choices and that we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► bring education to places if people only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► were educated if they could only see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► then they would naturally be liberals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► and so that's been our focus for ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► since the civil rights movement we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► to for instance busing is an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► a program where we just wanted people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► to interact with each other we were we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► were attempting to combat the the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3714">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► of the separatism of the races bite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► almost force wedging them together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► that we could educate people by showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► them and that that was going to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► this world and on the right they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► very much more pragmatic approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► American politics which was they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► we're going to get people elected to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► local school board and to the County [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► Council and once we get somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► there then we're going to Gerry manned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► the districts so that the district okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► once you get into the tree house we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► gonna pull up the ladder that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► we're gonna draw the line now so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► this district and no longer includes any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► black neighborhoods and the district is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► going to look like a like a paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► splotch but that doesn't matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► we're not trying to create a world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► egalitarianism we're not trying to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► according to a premise that all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► aspire to their highest selves we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► trying to get political power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► Congress and we're gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► methodically we're gonna do that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► kind of military like strategy and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► people were getting you know this is 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► years ago we started talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► wait a minute all these school boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► are denying evolution who are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► ding-a-lings but from the leftist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► perspective we were like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► just some small-town dumb little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► Oklahoma problem and evolution is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► widely accepted theory any smart person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► believes in it and so we're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► worry about it we're not gonna go try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► and put our own people on those school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► boards we're going to assume that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► are you know that that our higher selves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► will win and now we're living in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► where the the Congress is not made up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► people who you know who went to college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► started a successful business had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► sense of American political process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► fought in the good war you know and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► to go to Washington trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► difference we're looking at a Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► that is full of people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► strategically sent there to accomplish a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► pretty narrow mission which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► hamstrung the government limit its power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► and return the right to decide whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► evolution is true or not to the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► school board which we've already stacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► with people and that's the that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► the Republican game for 50 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► they it's just it's just a strategy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► on the Left we considered ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► above that kind of of like college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► football like ground game and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► none our ground game was all devoted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► to to again this this basically long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► history premise which is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► educated people are the more affluent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► they are and educated they are the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► they will take an interest in civics the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► more they will as you were saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► know once you have a complex idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► very seldom go back to a simple one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► but what we didn't understand was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► can't just go in someplace hand them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► complex idea handsome kid a complex idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and all of a sudden that idea Trump's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► his parents and his grandparents and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► church yeah yeah yeah so anyway we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► done a very bad job of playing football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► and the political situation we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► right now is is a product of that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► think that and the Republicans have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► or the I'm sorry the conservative side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► of the country has done a very good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► of characterizing us as shrill out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► touch because because every time we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► advanced a really great fairy we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► it's very easy to pick and choose among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► the theories promulgated by the left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► find one that seems bonkers to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► church-going person in Ohio mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► then all you have to do is put that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► your brochure and say look what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► Liberals want us to do you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► believe that they believe that all kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► should have sex change operations it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► like what's what where did you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► you know but that but there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► grandmother's in Ohio that that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► they need to hear yeah so how do we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► our ground game back I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► it's in the nature of liberals to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► ground game because we're because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► that's not how we think but weird we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► have to acknowledge that we're losing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► a battle between like you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► battle between a team that has a ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► game we're not doing a good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► convincing and I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► improve on that I don't know how to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► to get Neil deGrasse Tyson out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► world and and I don't think that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► Oprah presidency is the way but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► do like how many women are running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► office oh it's fantastic Seattle has our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► first female mayor in a hundred years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► basically yeah I mean I could just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► of half a dozen reasons why that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► good and encouraging sign even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► conservative places I mean you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► particularly in Congress I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► majority female Congress would be such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► wouldn't matter whether they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► Anita Bryant's I think you would see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► think you would see a justice just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► different mentality yeah but I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► don't know what to I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► antidote to the present moment and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► feeling that we are on the constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► verge of war famine catastrophe signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► our government for three weeks at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► I mean that's it's it's insane but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► know again it's not unprecedented and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► you were saying it's not just in 68 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► 72 in 1972 George Wallace ran for the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► presidency on a recent like a struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► like a racism but I mean you see I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► been silvered through the 90s Strom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► Thurmond right it's bananas right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► there's there's there have there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► been crazy crazy crazy times before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► I mean obviously like I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► somebody the other day like movies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► the future who want to cast someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► the role of the President of the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► States what are they gonna do now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► it used to be that if you wanted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► president even if it was like a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► fiction movie or a future movie he found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► someone that seemed serious and now how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► do you cast the president it could be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► could be Bobcat Goldthwait ghost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► you could have anybody straight so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► definitely is like a that's a trip but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► I mean every time I every time I see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► immigration building like frantically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► doing pro bono work to file injunctions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► I'm reminded that this is a fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► oh yeah look at what happened the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► airports when the travel ban came down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► yeah I mean that's as horrible as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► everybody felt about that that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► was an amazing moment that hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► imagine if the presence of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► pushback had not been in evidence at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► that time where we might even be now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► well and that if it hadn't happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► that's where you look at your country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► and say this this place is full of decay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► and rot but it did happen and you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► then you're able to say like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► faith in this I have faith in in who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► are and what we're doing I need to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► be sad we went to see um you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► okay movie who is not a fantastic movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► although it's a movie my daughter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► now declared it was definitely her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► favorite musical and might be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► all-time favorite movie which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► greatest showmen starring wolverine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► it's the very very heavily fictionalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► story of PT Barnum but long story short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► one of the kind of goofy narratives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this is like how good he was in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► ways too like kooky Barnum yeah giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► like humanity to his oddities and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► how they made this family out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► bearded lady and General Tom Thumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► and I swear to god this is an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► thing that happened that made me feel so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► good and I don't know I can't tell she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► just doing this to make me feel good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► there's this moment where like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► they so they're outside the Barnum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► theater and they're being confronted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► like menaced it's like something out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► x-men it's all these little you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► these local hoods with Donegal caps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► dirt on their face I'll kick their ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► for being creaks and it's like a shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► like bearded lady Chang and Eng bunker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► or the Siamese twins it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► in the bearded lady and then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► Zac Efron and zendaya the the beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► slender actress and and she's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► like what what is what is what why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► that a problem and I was like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► know what do you think she's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► don't I don't understand because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► rich I was like no no because they're of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► different races and she she actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► made this face like hmm and I said up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► was illegal to marry somebody of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► different race she looked like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► told her that like you know that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► was a secret chocolate fountain in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► room she didn't know about like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► like you've got to be kidding me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► yeah I loved it for her and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► admitted Lee I'm looking for my happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► place in this sad story but this is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► a real thing it's not a perfect thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► their kids are still dicks but like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► is just it's pretty fucking cool to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► that she's never had a thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► anybody regardless of their race or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► sexual orientation or gender is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► encouraging that feels and I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► you have similar stories like that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► it's no longer a case where like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► know when I was in first grade my black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► friend was skipper because there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► black friend at my school I had a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► friend I was like Stephen Colbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► hey there's my african-american you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► there's not one kid from Africa there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► not like that one kid there's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► that one development developmentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► disabled kid like he's just a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► bunch of different kids and like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► want kissed that's gonna be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► and that feels like a pretty big move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► over Cincinnati Ohio in 1976 to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► mean in my dad's elementary school there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► was a black kid whose name was John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► there was a white kid whose name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► John Oh God and so the teacher said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► okay from now on you're Felix as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► Felix the Cat Oh God and I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► 1927 and my dad ran into him I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► were friend you know they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► black John white John no no it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► feeling they were they were my dad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► he were tight throughout school and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► they hadn't seen each other and in 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► years or something and they ran into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► each other on the street when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► both in their 70s why my dad said John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► and he said it's Felix Davis well and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► had been Felix he'd been Felix his whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► life until he finally just accepted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► because that's what everybody called him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► no he didn't finally accept it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► that from the time he was 7 years old he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► never occurred to him to not be Felix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► but I mean he was my dad knew him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► had known him as John but hit the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► Felix identity he had taken over him at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► probably when he went to high school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► he was just like you know let's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► I was about to say let's call a spade a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► spade but that white issue I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► it's encouraging that your daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► doesn't can't comprehend it I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► is the truth of the matter yeah like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► daughter has never and she's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► seven now she has never referred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► someone by their color did you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► that I mean not maybe maybe not people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► were twenty they here they go oh gosh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► I mean just how you would talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► people sure and partly it is because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► have because we're modern people also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► yeah I have never said oh it's the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► guy over there or yeah yeah well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► know the reason that they you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► reason that they're using chopsticks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► because they're Asian well yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► everybody I mean to just put up put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► big cherry on it we were raised to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► believe that the easiest way to identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► people was how they were different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► the normal thing which is me my equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► equals normal and and and my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► does cannot classify people and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► primary way is boy-girl but then within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► girls like she has two little friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► and one of them is almost albino she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► so light and one of them is from India [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► and the two of them are very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► they're almost because they're both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► same size they're both small mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► although you know to me they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► the black and white chess queens of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► very small and interesting chess game - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► to my kid they are classed the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► because they're both littler than her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► but so she has never even come to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► said what's weird about this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► like she doesn't when so much credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► must also go to the teachers staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► faculty but it but it is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► thing where I don't I think like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► find it encouraging I find it fait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► accompli like we are better and that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► only produce they're they're better well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► no we are too but I mean but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► have I still have the memories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► Cincinnati was very I'm going to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► code word conservative town is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► nice word for wet wet honest and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPF61GY/4707">TS</a>]
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