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I believe steve is going to get his kid
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on the show before i get mine on that's
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amazing all eat it smells yeah seriously
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the incomparable number 100 third be
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march 2013 so Scott lay it on me
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alright well so like I said there are
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reason I have very different reasons for
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liking different episodes and really I
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just like all of the episodes but I
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could really say that because that's
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just lame and now that i'm rewatching in
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order these episodes are fresh in my
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mind so I the first one that picture
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from the first season obviously I didn't
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like where no man has gone before mostly
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because Gary Mitchell oh yeah is a cool
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character great great episode may or may
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not appear in star trek into darkness so
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weird weird uh looking because it's a
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pilot so the uniforms are different
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that's all
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but but so tragic right that he's like
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he's Kirk's best friend is basically
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what we're told and because it's the
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pilot episode you know
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sure okay and then and then he gets a
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little glowy eyes and and becomes the
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murderous horrible killer best friend i
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look forward to seeing more of you are
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well and if the pilot we have our first
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instance of the man who suddenly becomes
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omnipotent yeah it's true and he has to
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wear crazy silver a contact lenses ouch
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aah when I watched it before I never
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really correctly that you know they were
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contact lenses now i'm watching it on
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the blu-ray and it's very high
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resolution and it is clear that those
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things must have been incredibly painful
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to wear their rotoscoped in some places
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but not others because that scene where
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where it fades out you can still see his
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eyes and that's because the rotoscope
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was still hair and made left it because
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it was super creepy but yes even the
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fade-out could not stop his eyes the
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eyes are pretty creepy i have to say and
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apparently he shared Gary Mitchell they
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had contact lenses that they had to
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where he can only wear them for a couple
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minutes because they are excruciatingly
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painful and he could see through a pin
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holes so that's why you had to hold his
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head back so he could see people which
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is kind of course it also features the
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tombstone of James are Kirk that
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well it shows that Gary was not
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omnipotent can certainly played a
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practical joke and said that his middle
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name was Roy and it wasn't also Sally
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Kellerman is in that episode and she's
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she's really great too
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yes so that's fun episode i also like
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Charlie X with the weird Charlie act the
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Charlie guy Anthony you know wishing
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people the cornfield mentioned that
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earlier and it ends recently
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space seed course of course column is
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introduced i watch that today to that
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that is a good that it's a good episode
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although the the sexism in that episode
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was really awful i have to say because
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they introduced Marla MacGyver's the the
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historian and from the very first scene
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she's basically terrible at her job and
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all she wants to do is be in love with
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the pretty man that they're thawing out
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of the Botany Bay that's what historians
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she's a heck of a painter though I said
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to my family as I was watching it so
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moral of this episode is don't let women
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be officers on the spaceship
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it's really good it's so bad so bad
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great but but Montalban
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I mean it's if you put you could tell
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what episodes the writers of structure
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to watched before they wrote star trek
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to basically watch space seed and
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corbomite maneuver and put them together
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Montalban so good you almost believe
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he's indian you almost well I mean they
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don't know whether they change i think
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at least they changed his hair he looks
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could sort of like he could be siiick
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until he speaks and then he's got his
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his act normal accent rich Corinthian
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accent but but but he's so great i mean
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i say we i could see why you'd watch
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that episode and say oh this is is is
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Ricardo Montalban available because this
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is what we should do this is said yeah I
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remember my early days on the bustling
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streets of Calcutta although the
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potholes in that episode where where
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where kirtle gives him a sure mr.
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mysterious man who seemed vaguely
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threatening read all of our technical
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information and then later where he
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where he convenes this whole like trial
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only to say i'm dropping all the charges
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were going to be me down to a planet
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good luck
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you tried to take over my sugar no hard
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feelings because I think you're kinda
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cool even though you tried to kill me
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i'm giving you a planet seems weird have
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a feeling that whole scenario probably
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turned out okay though i'm sure it's out
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of here it's just hard but we discussed
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in the star trek to episode how most of
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Starfleet crew seemed to be borderline
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yeah it's it's just it's strange that
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they get anything seats to fill seats to
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fill study out 45 seems fine it'll be
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the historian is is just an example of
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what it's like on most of the other
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ships throughout the powerfully truth as
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bumbling idiots
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yeah going through uh let's see
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Oh a taste of Armageddon i like because
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when i was a kid it just blew my mouth
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that they would have a the computers
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fighting wars and then calculate
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casualties and then people were just
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willingly go into booths and I that's
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good that's got a nice twilight zone
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feel to it to the whole submitting to
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death business
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I'm glad you mentioned that Scott
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because that is on my list very high up
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and you know in some ways it's the
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archetype star trek episode because you
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know Kirk is supposed to not interfere
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with other cultures and he totally just
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then he whatever worldwide computer
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controls your culture he will destroy it
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legend I love that I that is one of my
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certainly one of my top 5 a and it is
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because of all the things that make the
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original Star Trek break that it's got
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the social commentary it's a very much a
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cold war story i love the idea that
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technology has allowed these people to
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make war palatable and that Kirk comes
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and basically says I'm going to break
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your computer's if you want to kill each
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other you're gonna have to actually kill
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each other and he's so aghast by how
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clean they made it and how they're just
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going to send people to these this
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horrific idea that the computers like
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your number comes up and they just send
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you to the disintegration chamber and
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people go it's like well I'm a casualty
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I've got to go and it's it's just it's
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mind-blowing it's it's so great i mean
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if i don't go people might actually die
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yeah that and then so i'll just go and
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then is going disintegrated and that and
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that Kirk's reaction is basically this
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is crap i I'm gonna go bro
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I'm gonna break their society because I
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can't allow this to continue as more or
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less just a prime guideline in season 1
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prime suggestion but he's totally right
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so it's got that it's got that's kind of
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social twist about about nuclear war and
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mutually assured destruction all of that
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that's going on and and it's got i just
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i love i love a taste of Armageddon it's
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it's kirk at his best at saying you know
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I don't care I don't care your society
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stupid studies really stupid and I don't
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screw it up and you're gonna have to
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figure it out no we only don't mess with
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the non stupid society I'm sorry yeah I
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who am I to judge
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alright Starfleet captain that's who i
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am i'm gonna ask your computer society
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stupid your hats or twice the stupid
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yeah yeah bad hats but what Spock ones
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one well we kid Landrieu we could lay
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drew involved and all the other admitted
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computer's been around here in norman
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they kind of have that the whole off the
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shoulder thing going in that episode 2
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it's the inventory ins and all of that
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you know it's just like James Kirk is
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tired of your crap he's gonna turn off
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your computer and hey if you want to
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fight you gotta fight like for real
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that's enough to deal with it i love i
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love that episode so I'm glad you
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mentioned it Scott because I don't think
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he gets enough credit
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I i think i think we great episode it is
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it is so awesome
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yeah so good that i mock time we talked
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about yet mirror mirror i love because
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Spock is evil with the disappeared
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the goatee so great of Captain Kirk has
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a machine in his crib in his quarters
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that lets you basically like find anyone
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on the ship and make them disappear
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which is awesome we should get into the
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cornfield the space cornfield
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yeah and it introduces the whole mirror
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universe which is just going to thing
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installed mine forever Syria did they
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make it a little too much but I just
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like any thing that happens in the
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mirror her universe they make it
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appropriately
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did you know that there are whole
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parallel universes where the American
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flag has red stripes or the white
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stripes shall be no worries II just
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I just love that episode because what's
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not to love about that doesn't like it's
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so great that Spock and spoke with the
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beard that's like the evil duplicate has
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a beard is no I think it's is the thing
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because of the success yeah this is
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another way that Star Trek is shaped by
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society
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i like the little twist there to where
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there's the one character in the mirror
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universe we don't know which is that
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curse girlfriend who's his accomplice
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and then at the very end she's been
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assigned to the enterprise i love that
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twist where it's like oh and now here's
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your mirror this universe it's nice
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that's interesting that the evil Kirk
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can have a girlfriend but the good kirk
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has the enterprise instead
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that's right that's his girl yep only if
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he were evil would he have a room in his
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life for a woman that's an important
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lesson for us all i think yeah and if
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you talk about I talk about episodes
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influential and the spin-offs later I
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mean the Deep Space nine producers could
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not get enough of the laminator of
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mining this episode and and quite right
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I've made it and made those are fun
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episodes too so yeah I remember when
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those came on i was so excited because
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it's like oh yeah because i love that I
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love that episode and in their
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universities like you know we leave
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mirror mirror and it's like Spock is
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gonna basically overthrow everything and
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make everything good which is great and
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you FaceTime we learned that leads to
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them being horribly destroyed because
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they're weak then because they're nice
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and yeah i mean that's great just to see
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you know these characters this is in the
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really apply anywhere
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yeah it's not a big believer in the
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front directive is the prime directive
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was just like I basically read it as
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response to captain it's not not even
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our prime directive is really that to
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how often does it mention it is like you
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are showing the the unwise miss of
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violating the prime directive because
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most of them were caused by some dude
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from Starfleet I just feel like like
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even if Kirk isn't big on it you think
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like other people should be like xbox
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and have a thing we say like I know you
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do whatever you want but I'm required by
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protocol remind you that the prime
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directive you know now continue
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Kurdistan believer
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he'll give it lift lip service but when
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he can when he can destroy the planet
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there the computer that is dominating
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the planet will do it
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yeah you know so that becomes really
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important when they're stuck in ancient
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Rome for some reason it's well you have
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to draw a line somewhere
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yes well Scott ah well I way we did mock
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these two episodes already but I do in
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fact like a piece of the action and
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patterns of course I like patterns of
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force mostly because they're nazis in it
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yeah and it's always fun to see ya Nazi
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know you love that
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how do we got scott once again going on
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audio record for his patterns of force
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is not about again planet the Nazis
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at it it is this is it is very is always
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kind of what it's about is a guy who
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gets obsessed I mean you hear these
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people that there were always people who
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would say you know in this really
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disturbing way like well you know Hitler
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kind of have the right idea but it was
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just a little misguided room he took it
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too far if he just hadn't done all that
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you know that you killing and all that
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stuff the rest of it was good
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the roads were nice yeah so John Gill in
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patterns of force is that guy and he
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tried his tries to work it out and no it
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doesn't work it does not work it's
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fundamentally evil it's not a bad and
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he's like decrepit and dying and then
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dead and uses a figurehead and its
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really it's not it's not a bad episode
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no I like it yeah I mean I'd it does
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kind of have a feel of hey look we have
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these leftover Nazi Nazi uniform she
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you know even even still I think it's a
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pretty good and see my great you know
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Kirk and Spock Spock wearing a helmet
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the entire time to hide his ears natural
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and piece of the action is just a comedy
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episode like trouble I think I'd better
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i think it's funnier than trouble with
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tribbles i love the scene when he
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distracts the gangsters by teaching them
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for this Ben isn't
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yes that's the whole reason i love this
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episode except at night on thursday and
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it would and vic tayback from alice is
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in this episode one of the game's see
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now it's always good to see mouth and
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there's and Spock has a hat again and a
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suit and a machine gun I'd advise you to
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keep styling idea Curt bone full 90 yeah
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I recall an important factor Nemo has an
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SS uniform
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piece of the action they're both done up
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like like gangsters with the with the
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pinstripe suits and all that and that's
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right you know and so and super funny
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gangster speak into under Federation
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speak heaters are all phasers are right
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i love that I love piece of the action
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the kid that like wants to be cut in for
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a piece of the action when Kirk like
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conspires with the kid to fake the kid
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into the yeah it's that I love piece of
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the action is great
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that's one of my that's one of my favs
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because trouble with tribbles get all
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the acclaim piece of the action just as
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funny that's it's hard to be the trouble
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with a gangster
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it's your Vic tabak not as cuddly as a
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triple it's true it's a but i will say
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for patterns of force that you get not
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only shirtless shirtless Kirk but
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shirtless Spock
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oh yes you do because they have to get
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the little manacles off in the laser
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that's right thing
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work spoke is that good okay he's
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MacGyver Vulcan my god that's got the
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whole comedy bit with him standing on
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Kirk's recently with back and say me who
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tortured that's that's the episode also
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where they stand the planet
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I didn't I wasn't sure how that worked
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but is that a row in in piece of the
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action made likes done a whole city
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block right yeah from space you know
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no you're not yes you know maybe those
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people they all have cancer now but it's
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making you have answer yes they're
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gangsters but what you mentioned a space
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madness a lot in the first few episodes
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of Star i just i go i remember that the
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the stunning is conveniently green so
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it's like you know it's just green light
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all over the city block everyone
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I sure that red light red light would be
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bad in keeping with the gangster theme
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the entire planet now has syphilis sorry
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huh oops yeah minor side effect with the
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stun setting of the enterprise phasers
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that is a common side effect of of
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Captain Kirk visiting places so and Kirk
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goes syphilis frequently follows you
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know basic stuff up space syphilis what
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happens when the Federation comes and
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declares prohibition over the whole
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planet just shut down at us
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oh by the way again talking about tropes
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that are replayed later in korba might
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maneuver they do the whole you will be
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destroyed in 10 of your earth minutes
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which I cannot at the time i'm sure it
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was fine but I cannot listen to 10 of
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your earth minutes without laughing now
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you don't look for you know when you
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have a villain you want them to do the
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unit conversion for you yeah just it
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looks really awkward if you die like
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while you're doing the math on your
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fingers to try and figure out how much
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how many minutes is that inner 30
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minutes
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yeah you will die in 17 orbits one
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doctor who that was exactly it's like
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the Daleks are not as as kind as as
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Baylock isn't that they're like you will
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be destroyed in 10 rels like what the
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hell're rels is that second is that
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minutes is that ours
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I don't know converted for hang on let
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me get on google yeah yeah they're not
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known for this rights reserved 17 rails
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in earth minutes your minutes are
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irrelevant
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sorry your earth minutes 4 minutes space
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dollars
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oh it's it's like it's like 40 years ok
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I'm going then we've got time you go
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right ahead with the seven rules okay
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Scott what else
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oh I didn't mention we mentioned Scotty
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and so just a funny aside the first
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episode where Scotty makes an appearance
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i was watching with my wife and she said
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who is that and I said that Scotty and
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she said it does have a mustache like
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okay it's scotty trust me movie Scotty
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has a mustache movies gonna have lost
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that is very large a TV show
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Scotty they had clean shaven know much
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for that mustache
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yeah it's important it's like a
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different guy
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it's true I stolen web I I pic right
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a callback it's called back in
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enterprise
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yes which I like so yeah I was again i
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have always captured my attention when
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Greg moss and I wrote our Star Trek The
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Next Generation spec script in college
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narrates it feat it featured yes i get i
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said next generation spec script Steve
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script because the Tholian web was so
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cool but they didn't like our script so
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we had to wait until enterprise for them
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to come back to steal your idea you
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answer yeah that damn damn right
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also uh I just I like the fact that Kirk
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is presumed dead and everybody has to
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like there's a really nice scene with
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Spock and McCoy where they're basically
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like talking about what they're going to
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do now Kirk is dead and it's kind of
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cool while and then of course all the
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drama sapped away by Kirk appearing
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floating ghost-like to curtail her while
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she's wearing her underwear but goes Jim
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up until then
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yeah that's a normal thing yeah this
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kirk you know as a his machine in his
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quarters but matter her Kirk as a
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machine that can make people disappear
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regular cancer she that lets it project
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his ghostly image and women's quarters
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yeah that's my Kurt that would that
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would be a good would you rather
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actually haha and my final one we did
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mention and it is heavy-handed and i
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only like it because the Riddler isn't
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it uh the Year last battlefield I just
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enjoy a corsa question Frank Gorshin so
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it gets a plus one for me
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alright okay should I go I got my list
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to Jason most of them have been taken
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most of them but taking I've been
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talking about the corbomite maneuver
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there's something about it it's the
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first episode after they shot the pilots
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so it's trying to define what the show
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is going to be their surprise surprising
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amount of conversation about like
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shipboard life but it's got Kirk at his
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best right where he's just making things
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ok like like post box
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like well we lost the chess match
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against it's over and we're all dead and
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Kirk's like no not chess bak poker and
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he's and he's like kayln frequencies
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open we've invented a thing that's where
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rubber and you're glue and everything
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bounces off of us and sticks to you good
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luck and you know cut it to her and this
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giant species like tell us more about
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your curve right Kirk thinkers and
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request denied and Emily well will tell
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you to a planet then it's so great that
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he that skirt right he's he's thinking
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him self out of these situations it's
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why i say that starter to where he does
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the whole thing with the prefix code I
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corbomite maneuver and of course then
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you get this great ending where this
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this alien that you've seen who looks
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super scary but also like a puppet
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because it's a puppet because he's an
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alien on Star Trek is a puppet neatly
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explains why the puppet is so poorly
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pick that one watching when I was
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watching that episode with my lady she
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was like that is so clearly a puppet
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think that's seriously wait for it and
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wait for it once again audience you know
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several steps ahead of the crowd
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enterprise yeah you know it's a put not
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not just a puppet a crudely meet action
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without arms yeah really isn't the whole
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corbomite gambit makes perfect sense
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because baloch being worldly in the ways
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of the universe surely knows that the
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galaxy is ripe with people that have
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ultimate power and continueth whatever
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they want at a moment's notice sure to
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show up all the time and Kirk might well
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be one of the beings of pure energy
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yeah corbomite exactly sounds like one
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of these two lane guys that's that's
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great that's so great so I like that
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episode so weird but it's great
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Scott mentioned a taste of Armageddon
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love that a lot
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we mentioned a mock time devil in the
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dark city village forever i want to
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mention the doomsday machine uh which is
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a real action adventure thing it's got
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William wyndham as Commodore Decker who
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has a in a great like tragic moment he
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beams his team he beams his crew down to
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a planet so that he can defeat this
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horrible machine and then the machine
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destroys the planet and leaves him alone
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so it's due
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his entire crew to death and he's the
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only survivor which is the opposite of
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what a captain he thinks he's doing the
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going down with the ship thing and it
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drives him insane and so then he takes
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command of the enterprise and and and
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there's a lot of great stuff in the in
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the remastered version where they
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because they went back and tried to redo
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all of the special effects and CGI and I
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think they were pretty faithful and and
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did a pretty good job actually I don't
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have a star wars kind of problem with it
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no I think they did it well but that
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episode actually looks great with the
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redone version because they couldn't
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like their multiple ships and there's
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you know and and in the old model stage
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they couldn't do it and into in the in
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the remastered version it looks great
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it's fast-paced and windows performances
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beeping he's he's he's crazy but it's
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great it's i love that episode it's it's
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a it's a real great fast-moving action
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adventure he's obsessed he's insane
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he's extremely well acted as Decker to
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ya he really gives off kind of that mean
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he seems like he's in control and yet
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there's that kind of undercurrent of
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this guy is going to do something insane
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very shortly here it's much more subtle
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than the acting you generally can't on
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the air is right right and Kirk loses
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command of a ship right which is the
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worst thing for Kirk right whenever he
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loses command of the ship that is he
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he's really upset and decker outranks
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him to basically says I'm gonna take
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your ship and destroy it
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you can't do anything about it may
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finally you know relieve him of duty and
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he steals a shuttlecraft and kills
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himself and and in doing so provides the
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way for the enterprise to survive as you
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do and i love the idea too that there's
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and this is this was lifted by star trek
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for it's a very similar concept of Star
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Trek for where there's a machine it's
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coming from like outside the galaxy from
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a race of beings you know beyond our
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comprehension and like literally it's
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just sort of like they left turned on
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and it's now destroying us because they
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weren't paying attention anymore and
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it's sort of demonstrate for you know
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that the machine that threatens earth is
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very similar to that and I like that
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it's kind of creepy that it's not an
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alien race that's out to get us it's an
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alien race that so it
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advanced that their detritus will
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completely destroy us and they don't
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care because it's just like junk that
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you know whatever let it go with 2nd
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deal with it
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yeah you're society's garbage over the
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galaxy was like wow yeah that episode
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was written by Norman Spinrad who is a
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very good science fiction right yeah
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yeah there's a lot of great scifi
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writers wrote a theater sturgeon wrote a
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bunch of like at least two star trek
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episodes too so so you mentioned where
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no man has gone before
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balance of terror I like arena a lot
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it's the Gorn yet to guide a lizard suit
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but I like that they're at Vasquez rocks
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the rock formation that's been in every
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sci-fi movie and TV show of all time
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ever but this is like the core of it
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where Kirk asta that essentially the the
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episode is being watched by the crew of
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the enterprise which i also love that
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like Spock and McCoy they're all on the
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bridge watching Kirk as he does the
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episode and commenting on it mystery
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science theater style almost like if you
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can find some coal and some diamonds
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that's got it he spewed out without I i
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do something about that i love i love
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that and i'm also a sucker for episode
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shot on location because so many of the
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alien planets and start record the
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Cyclorama things where it's the stand
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stage and it's very it's like got a pink
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sky and it's totally fake when it's not
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it's the the hills just outside of Los
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Angeles right well I love that it's it's
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California or a soundstage that's all
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they've got
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yeah I love it I love it when it's when
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it's the grapevine or bass rocks it
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makes me sad when it's the pink sound
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stage right yeah I'm so arena is good
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journey to Babel which I mentioned with
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with mark leonard as as as sorry xbox
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father and Jane Wyatt as Amanda his
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mother that's a fun episode because not
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only do we get that the the Vulcan stuff
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but there's this whole spy planes lots
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of alien races and yeah there's like a
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fake Andorian and liking guys
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rather the Tellarites that the pig
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aliens were were quite quarrelsome and
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and the blue and torian's and like
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little tiny guys who don't say anything
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but drink lots of space alcohols
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boos yeah uh and and there's that crazy
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spaceship that's like just like a
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pinpoint of light and it goes like warp
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10 but you but it's a it's on a suicide
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mission and so let's get this kind of
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spy feel + + this great series of
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escalating jeopardy kind of things we're
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sorry has a heart attack and he needs a
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blood transfusion and only spot can give
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it to him but then Kirk gets stabbed by
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a spy and so Kirk a spot can't give up
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command because he's now taking commands
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Kirk's been incapacitated so then his
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father is going to die so that Kirk
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fakes being better it gets on the bridge
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to send spot to go have the surgery and
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then Kirk is calling Scotty to come take
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over for him when the attack happens
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it's this great sequence of all of these
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things leading together that I really
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love just as an action-adventure kind of
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thing plus the whole detail like Spock's
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relationship with his father and that
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just i love i love that that's a DC
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fontana special look that's a really
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great episode and then the other two
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that we haven't mentioned that i wanted
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to bring up are the ultimate computer
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which is great because it's all about
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computers and technology replacing
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workers which is fascinating
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given that the time period it's
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basically i've invented the computer
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that can replace Captain Kirk
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so let's remove his chair and put a
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blinking computer in its place and of
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course the computer goes horribly bad
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and next attacking all the other star
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ships and all that and there's dr.
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daystrom who's a mad scientist to who
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you know I've invented the m5 it's so
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beautiful don't destroy my creation but
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but in and watching it it blows me away
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watching it now that that what what that
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episode is really about is like you know
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workers being replaced by technology
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which is a really interesting thing and
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and keeps happening
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that's just part of the march of
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technology and like when it one of the
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machines better than humans at doing a
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particular job at what happens to the
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people who are replaced which again I
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love the star trek tried to tackle
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issues like that
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de-stress backstory and that one is
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really cool too because he's he's the
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guy who peach too early and yeah there's
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one thing I ever did could could measure
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up to his earlier discoveries and right
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you got a little reckless towards the
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end because he was trying to do
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something is as impressive as his
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earlier try too hard and he realizes
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finally but he's you know he's gone
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horribly wrong and of course in the in
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the store trying to to do some things
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that are groundbreaking he's he's he's
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black so you get that kind of like he's
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the computed black computer genius which
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is casting that's a bold casting
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decision for 1968 which i think is cool
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to not not until diehard we see another
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one of his yeah that's right and
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terminator 2 ok but but i love i love i
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love that one and and again in the
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remastered effects when they've got like
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five different enterprise class ships
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they don't have one model anymore in the
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remaster effect so they can do some more
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interesting things then then we only
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have one look it's a ship and another
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ship but they never see them at the same
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time and then the other one i want to
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mention is what are little girls made of
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which is a more or it's an early first
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season more creepy it's like a Christine
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chapel episode kind of which is weird
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but it's it's got a TED Cassidy as the
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giant android ruck and it's it's gotta
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with christine chapels old boyfriend
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Roger Korby who is a man again a mad
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scientist and he transfers his
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consciousness into work into an android
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body and they're down in caves and and
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they try to make a duplicate of Kirk and
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I had that has III that episode always
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sticks with me is having some of like
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the worst wardrobe f 0 cuz there's to
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remember the android I i want to call
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the dresses but that's not really fair
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right there one there jumps and a
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jumpsuit partial torso cover and this
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yeah and then it right and they didn't
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like the black and the green half black
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half cream
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yeah it's like everyone has slides a
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gray yeah he's in monk's robes yeah you
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know giant spooky guy but it's so it's
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so like gothic and weird and Twilight
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Zone II don't know
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anything wheel with Kirk on it sure yeah
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the short stories upon which catspaw and
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wolf in the fold yes sorry catspaw
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interesting but uh but I like that I
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weird situation where they're down in
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these caves that are like go on forever
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you get the sense and it's this android
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like rock the android has been there for
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thousands of years and was found by
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Roger Korby and he remembers the old
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ones which were this whatever the race
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disappeared or died or turned into a
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being of pure energy like you do on Star
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of creepy that like you know the humans
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technology and yet there's this big
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hulking eight android who remembers back
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when there were the really smart
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creatures who built this place and you
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guys are just fiddling around with their
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leavings and I I i like that so I like
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that episode and the ones that I don't
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like so miri which is the planet that
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looks exactly like Earth but isn't earth
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and all the adults die but the kids are
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alive don't do an episode with kids just
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don't haha this kitchen like 25 year old
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kid all I know that's that's true it's
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like every extra from at any kind of
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like 30 movie of like hey there
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I don't know tell them Jim tell them Jim
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telling Jim know blah blah blah
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I i like i like the idea behind that one
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a lot more than like the actual
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execution
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yeah that's right little children of the
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corn creepy kids exist and the parents
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are gone in some way it was
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yeah it is is a nice idea and it was
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actually mind a little better by Star
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Trek a little bit later with the and the
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children shall lead them right branches
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which is also kind of a bad episode but
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also slightly better in terms of you
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know Mary Mary's got some creepy parts
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of it because you know once you
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over the fact that this isn't a planet
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that's exactly like her if accept
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whatever like they shot us get over that
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uh the other day he got you know it's
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it's it's I don't understand that it
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makes no sense but but but is it is
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creepy because it spoke post-apocalyptic
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world and all that but it ends up being
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I don't know it falls apart i don't i
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don't like miri so much I I don't want
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to sorry she's very nice but whatever I
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the i put the alternative factor down on
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my list of hate episodes
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that's the one with Lazarus you may not
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even remember this episode it's dunno
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there's a there's a guy with a beard
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named Lazarus and he's got a shadow has
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there's the bad one in the good one but
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that's it
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Lazarus who's bad who's from a parallel
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universe and they keep switching it's
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terrible it's so terrible
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it's not actually called Lazarus called
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something else isn't it no it's called
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Lazarus and anti Lazarus yeah they're
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both Lazarus but yeah I think this is
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one of the ones that i did not quite
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stay away it's so bad it's so busy
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people again planted the Nazis not as
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bad as some of these other episodes
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catspaw we mentioned so bad the empath
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we mentioned terrible
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Scott I'm sorry let that be your last
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battlefield which is essentially the
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same episode as the alternative factor i
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love again i love the fact that star
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star trek tried to do social commentary
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but when it's literally one side of me
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is black on the other side is white and
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you the other side is black and one side
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is white and therefore we must kill each
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can't we all just get along man it's so
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painful
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we are the best cheese on all and so
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preachy and will and literally it's like
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I don't know what's going on there
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yelling they're grappling now they're
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not grappling anymore it's very much
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like the alternative factor actually
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it's it's kind of nonsensical and
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preachy and I don't like sorry Frank
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Gorshin yes that's good yeah I always
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always took it the ridiculous premise
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and I heavy-handed this
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as a way of amplifying the ridiculous
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make you know the ridiculous idea of
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racism of racism is actually a few yes
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so ridiculous that we will make this
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ridiculous episode yes the episode is
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just as terrible as racism miss ya
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well put its that say it's very
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successful because it's like racist and
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then the last 2i have our again it's the
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episode that you even forget exist that
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which survives which is a third late
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third season episode which has nothing
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to command it's like a Cyclorama planet
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and kills people with the touch and it I
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I whatever 40 years later I still don't
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understand why there's a story there
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it's a it's it's it's terrible and
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nothing happens and in the end they like
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shrugging like well some people died i
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get it will go back to the ship
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you know some days it's just a mission
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you know you know you're gonna fill out
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the reports redshirt thailand it you
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know we got it I got a scan each planet
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they're not all gonna be exciting if
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you're going to talk about an episode
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that has the like prototypical redshirts
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I mean I guess it's the whole I mean
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right from from from the mantrap all the
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way through that which survives you have
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that but that which survives just
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there's nothing it's it's the most
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uninteresting star trek episode of all
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time it's just nothing
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it's awful it's just nothing blank
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emptiness pointless and then and then on
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the other extreme is the way to Eden
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which is space hippies including
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checkups girlfriend uh-huh and they come
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we reach right and Spock places like
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autoharp his Vulcan autoharp and there's
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some singing and there's like a hippie
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cult leader with big ears and it's a
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person is yours
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the sport no no no you given up this
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side of paradise which is yeah not a bad
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episode Spock hanging from the tree tree
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with a big grin yeah yeah i know i have
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had seen the way to eat another spoiler
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is pretty blonde girlfriend know the way
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to even know Steve you have so much to
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look forward to I've
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no way that is a that is yes it is space
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hippies that's that's when you really
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feel rejected technology but still on a
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space yeah that that's where you that's
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where it's like the Amish taking a cab
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it's like that kinda it's it's time you
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have to do it that's where you here if
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the sixties knocking on the door of star
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trek and said hey it's the 16-man pay
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attention to us and it's so terrible so
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terrible so those are the those are the
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ones you know i love this show dearly
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but there are some episodes that i find
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it almost impossible to watch and the
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way to Eden the empath i think is the
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worst one I think that's even I think
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that's the worst one
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so that's why I was and what I can't
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believe we didn't mention the enemy
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within which is a not a bad episode
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where Kirk gets split in two
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yeah and i just watched it was also a
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little dog little dog without before it
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gets into little dog in a very bad
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little costume yet for every pore space
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dog wedding you deserve a little horn
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strapped to your head you know
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yeah it's just weird they just use it as
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a prop people are carrying the dog for
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no particular reason doesn't have a fine
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name like is it do they claim it's
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something else or no it's just like a
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space dogs gonna warn they don't really
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badly walking around Italy just found it
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on the planet yeah so they took a test
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let's experiment on it by beating it
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through basic training don't I just if
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you bring a Spacedock home like don't
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bring it to the bridge they write and
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killing the space dogs thing that
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bothers me about the enemy within is
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that is i'm not quite sure what it says
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about gender politics and masculinity
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I'm not sure I can endorse it for what
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that totally masculine Kirk is a rapist
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an alcoholic but also like bizarrely
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flamboyant and over the top and then and
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then other Kirk is he's wearing eyeliner
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when he's Superman yeah some reason and
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another Kirk is is strangely passive and
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effeminate in a in a different way and
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and can't get any management so I feel
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like I feel like when Kirk is split into
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you know both parts are kind of more of
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kind of questionable in terms of but the
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writer of the letter is certainly want
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to counter
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each other that they're have their habit
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you guess the lesson is the Kirk is more
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than the sum of his parts i guess so
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it's not blessed be his parts are bad
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I've got some questions about the gender
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politics of of the enemy within
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and one of our listeners in the chatroom
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asked about the Galileo seven
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I like that episode I didn't put on my
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list but you know that's the whole you
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know Spock has to deal with anti Vulcan
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racism and also from somebody other than
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bones for a change yeah so spot as deal
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with anti Vulcan racism the the burdens
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of command and also like abominable
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snowman girl of people who throw big
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rocks made out of a of plastic and it's
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a lot to deal with that the shuttlecraft
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and in the end Spock creates it doesn't
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illogical thing and and for no good
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reason and that it saves them which is
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just like in your face block that logic
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i like that i like so I like that
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episode that's that's a really didn't
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put on my list but that's a really
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claustrophobic episode right there in
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that there there's that short a small
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amount of space outside the the
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shuttlecraft and they're in the
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shuttlecraft and meanwhile back on the
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enterprise basically Kurt is kirk is
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arguing with a diplomat or a bureaucrat
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or something like he does
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we gotta get to our next place that
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happens like eight episodes where
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there's a bureaucrat on the bridge was
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like snap to it Kirk I got a thing in a
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box that i need to take to a starbase
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and I wanted there to yesterday so lose
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the ship and Kirk's like you're not the
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captain I'll tell you what I'm gonna
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find my people first and that's right
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tell you tell him Kirk you tell your dad
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I don't know why that's a thing but
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that's how you tell in the the one where
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trapped in a super cool planet yeah and
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they they check in with him every once
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in a while and he's like oh it's like
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that is that the first appearance of
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heating rocks with the phaser beam
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cleverly beam down some blankets or do
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they split into good blankets and
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evil blanket it's worth a try to be down
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heaters but they don't work good work
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this one's got birds in it oh it's a bad
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black the evil ones don't just don't use
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the evil blankets people
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yeah you know the evil blankets come
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with with eyeliner their eyeliner and
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smallpox
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yeah Kirk was not in his native american
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format that time Romero would all been
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over pretty early i am Kira you're on
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wow that's so starts the 30 to 40
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year-old perspect male perspective on
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the series if you're interested
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yes i would like to hear what you're
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doing your feminine perspective on this
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leaves a real series there's what
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happens to be one right here who needs
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to go to bed very soon so
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hello hello hello hello
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tell us what you like about Star Trek
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well everything that is the correct
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answer that's good
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are there are there certain episodes
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that you remember really liking well a
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couple of them but one of my favorites
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was the naked time
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ok so why do you like that one well
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mostly because when Sulu was short
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lesson he was roaming the ship with a
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sword and he was threatening to fight
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the crew i really like that to where
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he's like he's like laughing and and
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dancing around with his sword ness no
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shirt on and he's all sweaty he's like
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yeah very excited about finding people
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with this sword and all the people run
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away from him because they are cowards
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he's the only guy on the spaceship with
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a sword that's really scary i don't want
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to mess around with Sulu when he has a
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it's true it's true they could have
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stunned him or something
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you have other ones that you like well I
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like the one where they're in a time
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like Nazi Germany
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alrighty to good choice because Nazis
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are cool right but they're bad and they
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have to be defeated
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that's right but it's it's a complicated
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relationship exactly and Spock and Kirk
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at they're like walked up and they have
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to like use the they make like a little
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laser to get themselves out of the of
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the prison right at any other any other
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ones that you really like another one
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that I really like is the one where
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there's to kirks good and evil
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we were just talking about that one and
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that someone with there's the little dog
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that turns into the like the good the
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mean dog in the nice cool dog do you
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have a you have a favorite character
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well have a week a stinker who else
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could a choice right now I like mr.
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Spock but captain kirk is pretty great
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yeah yeah so even though this show is
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like really old it's like more than more
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than 40 years old I you know it i think
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it's really cool that you still that you
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still like it and that you and your dad
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are watching it
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yeah it's interesting yeah it's
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different from stuff that you see today
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right but yeah there aren't any other
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shows i think from 50 years ago
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45 years ago that people are still
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watching today really like people your
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age especially alright yeah there
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anything that you don't like any of us
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yeah what yeah what yeah what don't you
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well some of the episode where they just
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then in different places in time like
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some of the ones where they're just one
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of my least favorites was the end of
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season two I think where they were
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trying to make a spin-off oh yes
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assignment earth with it with the with
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the girl and the and the guy who's like
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a spy and that and that black cat
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yeah yeah the the star trek people
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aren't in that very much
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are there there's just like yeah very
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confusing it's just yeah it's just
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rubber Berta and Gary seven and the and
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the rocket there's a lot of we keep
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seeing the rocket a lot in that way
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yeah and the cat little black cat okay
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well that that's great i'm glad that you
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could share your your your thoughts
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about star trek with us on the podcast
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that was really good thanks for thanks
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for doing it
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yeah and
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staying up late Saturday night well
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thank you for letting me talking thank
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you for telling us about Star Trek and
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how you like it that's good because
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we're all old people so it's good to
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hear what you want you think of it
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whoo that was pretty awesome Steve yeah
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yes yeah that was great i felt a new a
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different perspective was necessary
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since I think so i've been only my old
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team young and team extremely young
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yes keep your old to be slightly less
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old and wow and I didn't actually young
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yeah that's great that's great i love
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this is watching them but like I said at
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the beginning you know my kids have been
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watching them at kind of over my
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shoulder that they're like some stuff i
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watch and they just they just blow past
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with Star Trek they kind of stop and
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watch it which is actually does amaze me
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that that anything made that long ago
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could still be even processed by people
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born in the 21st century
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it's true I don't know how it's possible
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me neither
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that's great so you have a few episodes
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left right
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you and your daughter yeah we've just
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finished some of the day of the Dove I
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think Oh which is the the entity aboard
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ship that's causing the yeah mines gone
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somewhere to to face the 40 non trapped
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members of the Enterprise crew commander
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Kor one of our what three great Klingon
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commander necessarily it was fairly
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non-war like actually in this
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no no he's a he comes back in Deep Space
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you never know about this Klingons I
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mean they go between your basic
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wingard's slightly Clinton's or Klingons
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yeah sometimes they're slightly brownish
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and sometimes they're more brownish
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sometimes they have weird eyebrow
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sometimes they don't it they explain it
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it's not worth getting a budget the
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budget that was not the budget was not
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you know the enterprise they explain why
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the clans looking way they do and I i
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prefer the explanation in deep space
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nine where works is we do not speak of
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just let it go
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they are Klingons we do not speak of it
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what is it is a little sad that the the
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primary a competitive races with the
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humans are smartly people they only
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really differ in a really eyebrows for
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the most part yes and ears sometimes you
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have to have darker skin people aboard
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the Enterprise
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so that's not really a difference well
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that's even in the trouble with tribbles
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there's the Klingon that passes human
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right you're right Tony that you get the
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it's really brilliant right the art
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Garvin is the easy clean and supplies
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yeah yes because trouble don't like in
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trouble
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yes yeah that's that's the great thing
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about troubles that's it that's it
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they couldn't get the feeling that the
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Klingons or the Clintons triples love
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everybody except for Klingon but yeah
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because they don't like eyebrows and
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purposes
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yeah that is the trouble with that is
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they don't like long as they have hate
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in their hearts for Klingons and that is
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the trouble
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shame on them horrible racist there's an
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episode with a Klingon who's got a lumpy
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head on one side of his body and then
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not and then another one where it's
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reversed and it's all about racism man
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yeah I get it
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yeah they really are the most hateful of
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spaces bath implements center of brushes
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yeah there are there a one of those
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called the the global possible some kind
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of pop thing there Lou fast group now
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that's not a loofah sponge type deal
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about the trip boys not a space loofah
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now that's some sort of all you're wrong
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the race of triples
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I'm sorry troubles now who's the racist
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ones i know i know it yes who was on the
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other ones move loofahs tribbles they
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all look alike to me maybe you should
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watch let that be your last battle Fagin
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be your last battlefield who could tell
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the difference between up a powderpuff
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in a loofah I look a like to this guy I
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know it's all the same
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there's in is it there was an episode
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that i was just watching today that said
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it's space seed it's like well the the
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people on the ship or from all the parts
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of the world you know North America
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Latin oriental I'm thinking oh no don't
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try no but they don't know in the 23rd
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century they don't know about your space
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racism they are passed it man don't know
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about taboo words because they're their
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color to color blind society man unless
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you get stranded on a planet with Spock
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oh yeah the Balkans know they well they
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suck green-blooded you to be honest the
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blue eyeshadow i think is what really
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turns people off
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that's true we're trying to fool his
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it's box-yellow pallor appears to change
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a lot from episode to episode they
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didn't know what they were doing with I
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yeah it was very early episodes he is
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extremely yellowy except for his blue
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eye shadow of course and then sort of
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fluctuate and is and in in the cage
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doesn't he have like kind of reddish or
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even better area yeah I read about I am
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unfortunately red-letter day boys
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I think to predict what's bad girl
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oh yeah by accident I'm not spotted it
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was you know I are old yeah and that he
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later does i am science podcast yeah i
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read i don't know about him when I ever
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these are not of my own fees
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yeah out of my all of our Leonard in his
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own right yes I mean yeah well or maybe
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the ghost written i don't know but i
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guess the earlier versions of Spock were
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much more like demonic basically and he
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had he had red face it a reddish tint
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right and i think they wanted him
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have a tail but probably that wasn't
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explained all the yelling then do right
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people were not big on that you so yeah
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but then like you his best line in the
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original pilot is they they beam away
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they all get on the transporter beam but
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the the yeoman the two women they beam
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off because they're trying to find a
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mate for for Captain Pike and all the
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man are still there with their rifles
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Spock steps forward and shouts the women
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that's his big moment but women it's
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funny I guess a commentary on the times
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the fact that they they have this one
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alien character on the bridge aboard
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ship kind of like the key did the other
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you know well that night in the woman
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they couldn't make him completely Vulcan
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had be half-human athol for people to be
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able to still relate to him
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well it's so in the original pilot it
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was unclear whether it was half or not
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he was just a guy with the point of
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years but they had the the female first
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officer right and they are great irony
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is that that a space alien at on your
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bridge crew sets to find a woman
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second-in-command yeah we imagined they
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got rid of her better helmets to worry
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about they turned her into a blonde
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nurse instead
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ok you come a long way baby and the
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voice of the computer and voice the
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computer there are you
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that's true I horribly screechy voice of
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a computer
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yes still computer yeah computers
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Kirkwood's kill exactly
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yeah we could do a whole separate
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episode on technology in Star Trek the
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original series
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oh it's fascinating they got a lot right
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i mean a communicator you know it's not
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it doesn't go into space but it's a
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little flip out like foam me thing kind
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of but they have all the little bubble
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switches that get flipped which I'll
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I'll makes me laugh it's like to do this
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complicated thing any like flip switches
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alright captain got it one-on-one but of
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the thing that actually amuses me the
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most of all the technology and star trek
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is the it is the the fact that they
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couldn't conceive of a network of shared
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storage of a computer storage so they've
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got these powerful computers that
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reactor voice command and that there are
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databases and all of that is we take for
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granted now but i think was really smart
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on their part and yet they have this
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real connection to like tapes and record
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tapes and you here's a little those look
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at their tiny right there
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they're like little memory cards locks
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and plastic which is cool because again
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that's really forward thinking that
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there's think these record tapes but but
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they're not there's still sneakernet
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right and and they couldn't get over
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that to be like if only we could network
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guys together somehow
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yeah like--on he says like it will
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recoil tie you into RR record tapes like
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oh you're so close to just use some
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clothes which is interesting because
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there are apparently like seven or eight
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places aboard the ship where you can
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take control of the controls and lock
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out the rest of the controls engineer is
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the best place bearing is the best
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player there's nobody down there except
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Scotty and the singles leading squad so
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yeah I didn't wander off a log
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it's the rest of engineering they stare
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at things and then when the ship lurches
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they all fall one and then they lead to
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the other self it that's their sole
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purpose the computer really runs the
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ship those guys are therefore honestly
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the bar to entry for the engineering
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degrees really gone downhill the only
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3rd century it's true all these
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computers yeah yeah it's all automated
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those guys are just their market time
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yeah that's friend waiting to be shot
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because there were red shirts scotch
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whisky is it his purpose is to claim
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that things can't be done while doing
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yeah that's right this is impossible
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yeah then we're done with that beautiful
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go right i mean that with that would
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which was played up in in the episode of
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next generation where he saw and what
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else Geordie you didn't tell him how
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long would really take two chill people
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that don't do that you can you never be
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you'll never get a reputation it as a
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miracle that you gotta say no it'll take
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months to do that I fixed it
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honestly there's one one person aboard
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ship that should be concerned about
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being replaced by a computer it's that
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yeah fair enough major Barrett
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Roddenberry could very easily say that
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the engines can't take much more of this
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captain
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well Steve I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
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say do I have to flip a switch and say
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hailing frequencies open
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Oh hailing frequencies open hailing
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frequencies important thank God you were
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here her it was great that they cast
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michelle nichols and she was by all
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accounts it an inspirational figure but
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especially early on in the show they
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didn't really have anything for her to
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do later she doesn't have a lot of
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biting the back of her hand when
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something is terrifying
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yeah but she just did a lot of she was
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like running the phones she was the
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receptionist on the enterprise which is
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not a big step forward
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does she in fact do the keening whale
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that accompanies the beginning credits
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or is that someone oh that's someone
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else's because I heard her i think it
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was the the Space Shuttle farewell
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ceremony and she was standing there at
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the podium has a speaker at that and she
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began by doing that there is a great
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photo of michelle nichols and Barack
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Obama both doing the Vulcan salute in
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the Oval Office wow that's worth it
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worth of you that's just one of those
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things like I cannot believe I am
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looking at this picture means of the
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President of the United States and
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Lieutenant over a both giving me the
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live long and prosper salute
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I don't know yes the Romulan candidate
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yes yeah well really as if anybody
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hasn't seen the John Hodgman bit where
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he is at the the Washington press corps
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dinner a couple years ago and does a
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whole bit about how the Nerds inherit
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the earth and and essentially what he's
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saying is is a Obama you you're a
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gigantic nerd right you understand all
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these references i'm giving you at one
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point he mentions the Vulcan hand salute
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and Obama unprompted other than that
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just does it and judgment is beside
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himself like he doesn't know what to say
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he's like I can't believe that just
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happened oh it's it's worth looking on
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YouTube it's a it's a it's a really
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funny bit
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alright I think we're I think we've
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beaten this
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this is like an eight-part episode now
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maybe but like Star Trek i think is
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what's become the star trek sucks
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basically it's not that good star wars
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is totally better and i think we already
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know is the great importance of star
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trek with without which it's doubtful we
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would ever gotten the ballot of Bilbo
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Baggins
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oh that isn't certainly for later Gary
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to every things that you made it to like
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removed from your memory and then other
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people just hit you in the face with a
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little i prefer Leonard boys recording
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of I had a hammer pero I had a hammer
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actually a highly illogically quite a
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good child highly illogical that way he
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combs his hair so so before we go one
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last thing I wanted to say because we
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talk about Star Wars and Star Trek and
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and the end the battle between
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and the end the battle between
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people who love Star Wars and people
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love star trek and I I like Star Wars a
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lot I a lot and it just wasn't the
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formative thing that Star Trek was for
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me but the one thing I'll say about
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where Star Trek cast the advantage is
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that Star Trek as a television series
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allowed you to spend a whole lot more
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time with the characters the original
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series as well as all the all the
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spin-offs that have happened and the one
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thing about Star Trek coming back as a
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movie franchise which I think JJ Abrams
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dinner did a great job of revitalizing
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it i love seeing those characters that
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the original series characters again and
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young because all the movies were about
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them being old so having be young and
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setting out in the first adventures i
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think is great but the fact is with
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these movies you know you see two hours
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and then four years later you get two
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more hours and there's something to be
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said for the time that Star Trek was
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able to take on TV to spend with these
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characters and that's something Star
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Wars you know Star Wars as great as it
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that's three movies with with Leia and
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Luke and Han Solo and that's all we got
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less than six hours in total in the TV
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special rights less than six hours and
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then of course our podcast which were
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about 20 hours and this one which is
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nearing that yeah so so I i think that
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is Star Trek's great advantage which its
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losing as a movie franchise which is why
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I hope eventually they will go back to
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TV with some form of it because you know
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there's somethings TV does better than
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movies and I think the reason that so
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many of us have such a a soft spot in
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our heart so you know warm feelings
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toward star trek is because there are
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are so there's so much of it and we get
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to see these characters over time and
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learn lots of little things about them
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whereas with movies whether it's Star
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Wars or something else your left parsing
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little tiny beats you know one in the
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Star Trek movies these characters get a
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beat or two a plot point or two and
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that's it
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whereas in start in the series you could
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do you know sometimes good and sometimes
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bad but you could have whole episodes
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where there's a subplot about you know
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Chekhov or Sulu as simple as Sulu just
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running around with a sword right and
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Star Wars you have to guess when the
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characters are probably getting laid
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in Star Trek you know you know you see
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it started boots are off the boot off
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the boots are back and it just happened
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exactly if they cut back to Han Solo in
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the Millennium Falcon's go-to Cloud City
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and he's putting his boots back on then
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we would know the command blouse was off
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yep that's 10 to 25 seconds
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yeah but anyway that that's that's the
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one thing that I i say is that I'd say
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the big difference between Star Trek and
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Star Wars and Star Trek has always had
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more time because they've had episodes
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you know the street star trek original
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had three years next generation had
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seven years to tell stories about these
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characters and they feel you know it is
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a little less special but it's also just
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a lot more time with a lot more depth
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and you can get the corners of the
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characters in a way that you know Star
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Wars just can't do as a movie franchise
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so although that may change very soon as
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many way things are going now it seems
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like we're gonna get your story soon
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apparently shirts and inverted world
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yeah this town it could be AG 88 and me
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but the TV series that's right over to
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the Fox yeah I saw that show is called
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night rider yeah and the thing I like
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about star trek over star wars and I do
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like Star Wars I don't want people to
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that Star Trek is very optimistic and
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it's about the future of humanity and
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tries to deal with these things these
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these big topics that are important you
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know it's very is rooted in the present
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but it's set in the future right so
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that's the cool thing about star trek to
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star wars they started off right at the
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back and say this is a galaxy far far
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away and long time ago
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these are not humans this is a
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completely different place they look
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just like us but they're not us
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this has no real bearing on the world
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now it's a kind of a fable or you know
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and so that's a different kind of
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storytelling but i think it's less it is
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less impactful to me because of that
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kind of separation from the world
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I just like the mini skirts
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the community cheese factor in the fact
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that my daughter and I have something to
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bond over
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yeah that's all good it's all good too i
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love i love that that a style even
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though it's not entirely sixties you get
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that you get the miniskirts and all that
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and it's like yeah that's kind of cool
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it's truly alien now not complaining and
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i will say the the blu rays are just got
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some of the original series and it they
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look fantastic era because they shot it
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on film so sure there's much more
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resolution than we ever saw on those old
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reruns and then they also redid you can
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watch it with or without the new effects
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but I can do which is great i think the
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new effects are nice and they did after
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well done a surround audio mix that's
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really nice it's really good they did a
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fantastic is CBS and paramount took I
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guess it's just us took a lot of time to
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get it right and i think they did get it
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right and of course it's great that
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they've included the original so that
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for you know the purest out there yeah
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can watch the old models if they liked
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to have seen only the cgi based ones
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because that's what streaming on netflix
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but this young I might go out and invest
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in the blu-rays just so i can play spot
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the fishing line huh that's half the
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appeal to me of the that's an easy game
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it is very easy looking for again it's
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one of those it's one of those drinking
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game items fishing line shirtless Spock
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i'm shirtless kirk spock sad he's dead
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yes I'm a doctor not a ya know about you
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and it's on the blue races where you
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with a press of a button you can switch
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from the original special effects to the
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fancy special rights which is cool
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yeah they did a great job finally a good
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use of blu-ray it's true
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at the end of Star Trek it always amuses
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me to see that it is a Desilu production
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I don't know why it just yeah that's the
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companies offer ever i love lucy just
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like early twilight zone
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yeah there's something about how they
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the yeah the the production company got
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bought by Desilu and then it was sucked
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up by paramount but but yes and they
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shot at the desert loose to do so yes
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Desi Arnaz I'm sure had a had a had some
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money out of Star Trek their bizarre and
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now belongs to CBS even though it aired
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on NBC because it went through Viacom
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and I guess paramount does the movies
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and CBS owns the TV and it's this weird
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kind of alliance between the two of them
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that they believed as he bought his long
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long trailer is specifically for
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residuals from Star Trek there you go
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so so yeah the blu rays are good that's
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a I i did a good job they did you know
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they had the film so the HD masters were
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there and and you can make it look
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really amazing like show that i watched
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whatever every episode 50 times and you
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see things that you didn't see before
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because it's that much clearer and then
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yeah they did the right thing with
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special effects which is they they
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really said what were they trying to do
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right what would they have done if they
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could have done it and a lot of times
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it's just some subtle camera movements
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it's the lighting where you've got
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objects lighting other objects where
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they weren't together in the other ones
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so they didn't and then some things that
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didn't make any sense that you like
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couldn't get a sense of where the the
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the ship was on the screen or whatever
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just little subtle things but you know
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did a really good job where it's much
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more kind of watching bullying and it's
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clear what's happening and then they fix
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some weird stuff like Sulu had a like in
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court maneuver he's got a countdown that
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didn't make any sense it was like the
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members were wrong and they just
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replaced it and now it makes sense and
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it it works again so they did a great
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job and even read the title select the
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topography in the the titles is super
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clear HD yeah that's right yeah
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kudos CBS the job as far as I'm
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concerned the the new ones can go pound
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sand Harry much shot first
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another and on that note I'm gonna close
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up this episode of the incomparable this
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has been great i had a great time
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talking about one of my favorite shows
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of all time I realized today that you
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know I always pussyfoot around the water
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my top five shows of all time I know
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what my top five shows are all time and
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I know for certain star trek Babylon 5
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that Star Trek the original series is
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one of those five it just is how can I
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deny it
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it's a formal part of my childhood and I
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still love it today so I'd like to thank
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my guests for joining me talking about
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one of my very favorite things
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Steve let's thank you for being here and
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thank you for bringing your
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water along to that was really great i'm
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a panel is not a Walmart greeter dammit
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Spock you're welcome Jason and you're
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welcome from my daughter who is
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hopefully in bed at this point i hope so
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i feel like i should go to bed you know
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it had we not have this discussion
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tonight we probably would have watched a
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very bad episode of structure
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oh yes oh the way to Eden it's coming
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Tony sindelar thank you very much for
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joining us tonight was great to have you
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there's always time for fizzbin except
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on tuesdays at night
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well then you have a half so that's what
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we call it shrunk it's very bad and
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Scott McNulty this is the episode that
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we were made for I i agree and live long
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and prosper chase thank you i think we
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we work this out that i'm kirk your spot
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steve is McCoy and Tony you can be
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Scotty if you like it's like it's gonna
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be a red shirt isn't it
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nurse Chapel you can be Sulu you know
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I'm okay
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I'll spin Richard ok i'll die but i'll
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serve the enterprise and some Johnson to
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the transporter room
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boy it's my big chance thanks to
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everybody for listening to us talk about
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a show that's almost 50 years old for a
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very long time
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it keeps getting older and it keeps at
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the longer we go the older it gets until
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next time on the incomparable thanks
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everybody out there we'll see you next
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and Scott McNulty my partner in Star
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Trek and all things blow it in life
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oh this is the episode that you that
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that we were made for I I agree
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live long and prosper chase thank you we
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will we will live long and prosper
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together apparently since we are life
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partners in the Star Trek life partner
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aight no it's the 23rd century its
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there's nothing wrong with that
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which one of us where's the mascara
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secretly Jason likes goatee McNulty a
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lot more than clean-shaven the evil
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Scott is the work with the with the
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clean-shaven face is the Frog true the
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bearded Scott is the good Scott really i
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have you heard kind of wacky parallel
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universes this
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