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00:00:01   the Intolerable number 129 februari 2013 [TS]

00:00:12   podcasting the final frontier [TS]

00:00:15   these are the voyages of the podcasting [TS]

00:00:17   comfortable it's continuing mission to [TS]

00:00:20   explore strange new books to seek out [TS]

00:00:23   new films and new television shows [TS]

00:00:26   to boldly go where no podcast has gone [TS]

00:00:29   before [TS]

00:00:41   hi everybody it is time for another [TS]

00:00:44   edition of the uncomfortable and as you [TS]

00:00:46   might guess we're here to talk about the [TS]

00:00:48   original Star Trek oh wait a minute did [TS]

00:00:52   were you doing Voyager instead see I'm [TS]

00:00:54   in the wrong room [TS]

00:00:55   apparently i is here for the episode 1 [TS]

00:01:00   this is this is a fascinating collection [TS]

00:01:03   we've got because I think we've got some [TS]

00:01:04   people who take star trek back to their [TS]

00:01:07   earliest days and then other people who [TS]

00:01:08   have come to it and spend a lot of time [TS]

00:01:10   with more recently for me it's funny i [TS]

00:01:14   can't i'm always amazed when people like [TS]

00:01:16   damn orange on syracuse to talk about [TS]

00:01:17   how they can't really remember life [TS]

00:01:19   before Star Wars and as somebody was [TS]

00:01:21   born in nineteen seventy which meant [TS]

00:01:24   that when i started watching television [TS]

00:01:26   as a child was just when Star Trek the [TS]

00:01:28   original series was becoming incredibly [TS]

00:01:30   popular in syndication it was on every [TS]

00:01:32   day is that was life before Star Wars [TS]

00:01:35   yeah it was exactly at was on every day [TS]

00:01:38   at five o'clock on channel 2 from san [TS]

00:01:41   francisco and i watched it to the point [TS]

00:01:43   where i can't remember life without star [TS]

00:01:44   trek and I can't actually can't remember [TS]

00:01:46   life before I knew basically every star [TS]

00:01:49   trek episode by heart i have been [TS]

00:01:50   watching them since I was a little kid I [TS]

00:01:52   cannot remember what it was like before [TS]

00:01:54   so I I guess through that I understand [TS]

00:01:56   what they're thinking about Star Wars [TS]

00:01:58   Star Trek for me it's very hard for me [TS]

00:02:00   to even consider it like a regular TV [TS]

00:02:02   show because it its I feel like it's in [TS]

00:02:05   my programming as a human being because [TS]

00:02:07   i watched it from such a young age and [TS]

00:02:09   so many times because there are only 79 [TS]

00:02:12   episodes right and they just kept [TS]

00:02:14   running them over and over and so I [TS]

00:02:16   would watch them again and again until I [TS]

00:02:18   literally episodes i haven't seen for a [TS]

00:02:21   decade [TS]

00:02:22   Captain Kirk begins to speak and I'm [TS]

00:02:24   like I know everything he's gonna say [TS]

00:02:25   word for word [TS]

00:02:26   annunciation for enunciation because i [TS]

00:02:29   had seen them so many times [TS]

00:02:31   anyway this is not a monologue although [TS]

00:02:32   I could be because I could do my Shatner [TS]

00:02:34   monologue right here but I won't because [TS]

00:02:37   I'm joined by my fellow Star Trek fan of [TS]

00:02:40   long-standing Scott McNulty hi Scott [TS]

00:02:43   no Jason much like you i can't even [TS]

00:02:46   remember a time when I did not love star [TS]

00:02:49   trek i don't know i started watching [TS]

00:02:50   Star Trek I it's like I was [TS]

00:02:52   out of my mother's womb and into the [TS]

00:02:55   hands of human Rand immediately [TS]

00:02:58   immediately even gave the Vulcan salute [TS]

00:03:00   and were placed in in front of the TV [TS]

00:03:02   immediately exactly quickly quite right [TS]

00:03:05   kids some Star Trek yeah exactly [TS]

00:03:07   stat Tony sindelar is also here hi Tony [TS]

00:03:11   hi Jason are you a long time star trek [TS]

00:03:13   person or a recent original Star Trek [TS]

00:03:15   visitor [TS]

00:03:16   I am a longtime other star trek fantasy [TS]

00:03:19   and a recent kind of you know I i also [TS]

00:03:23   can't really remember not being aware of [TS]

00:03:25   Star Trek the original series but I went [TS]

00:03:26   back and more obsessively race recently [TS]

00:03:29   tried to re-watch all of it so so little [TS]

00:03:32   of each [TS]

00:03:33   good to have you here and Steve lots who [TS]

00:03:36   as we detailed on a previous podcast [TS]

00:03:38   recently was started watching the [TS]

00:03:40   original star trek with his his daughter [TS]

00:03:43   right i did and she did and we're still [TS]

00:03:46   going as a matter of fact we're midway [TS]

00:03:47   through season three [TS]

00:03:49   that's that's well it's hard times in [TS]

00:03:51   season three but I you know what its you [TS]

00:03:55   say that but will prolly get to this [TS]

00:03:56   later but to be honest season 3 to my [TS]

00:03:59   mind is not that much worse than the [TS]

00:04:01   first two interesting interesting I i [TS]

00:04:04   was making a list before the show of [TS]

00:04:05   favorites + unfavorites are scrolling [TS]

00:04:07   through the wikipedia page list of Star [TS]

00:04:09   Trek episodes and taking notes and when [TS]

00:04:11   i hit season 3i just move the cursor to [TS]

00:04:13   the worst column because i knew i wasn't [TS]

00:04:16   going to be getting any more best but I [TS]

00:04:18   would be getting some worse but they [TS]

00:04:19   seem to have unleashed Shatner a bit in [TS]

00:04:22   season three and i think maybe that's [TS]

00:04:24   where the problem comes in but it's so [TS]

00:04:26   depending on how much you enjoy seeing a [TS]

00:04:28   shatner vamp yeah that's that's going to [TS]

00:04:31   greatly affect your enjoyment of season [TS]

00:04:33   three [TS]

00:04:34   there's more of him to unleash in season [TS]

00:04:35   3 2 there was well you know he goes up [TS]

00:04:38   and down he does is go down there are [TS]

00:04:40   their stories about that but I to [TS]

00:04:42   remember star trek from my earliest days [TS]

00:04:46   in my case on I believe KTLA channel 5 [TS]

00:04:49   and the Los Angeles the Greater Los [TS]

00:04:51   Angeles area the inland empire as it [TS]

00:04:53   were not to be confused with the cling [TS]

00:04:56   the Klingons Empire yeah right different [TS]

00:04:59   Empire entirely now it's not the [TS]

00:05:01   Klingons it's a it's the inland [TS]

00:05:03   there is no honor and living in [TS]

00:05:05   riverside and I remember sort of vaguely [TS]

00:05:08   enjoying it [TS]

00:05:09   that was back when it actually meant [TS]

00:05:11   something that shows only came on you [TS]

00:05:12   know occasionally you couldn't just [TS]

00:05:14   watch any given show from the history of [TS]

00:05:16   man right on instant recall you actually [TS]

00:05:20   had to wait around for the show to come [TS]

00:05:22   on i think it was on an inconvenient [TS]

00:05:23   time and in Los Angeles it was like [TS]

00:05:26   right around dinnertime [TS]

00:05:27   oh yeah well it was right around dinner [TS]

00:05:28   time watching it out of San Francisco [TS]

00:05:31   and channel to write and I just I i [TS]

00:05:33   would like microwave a hot dog and go [TS]

00:05:35   watch start driving literally looks like [TS]

00:05:37   that matter you can microwave a hot dog [TS]

00:05:39   in a minute so you could be like in the [TS]

00:05:41   commercial break go get a hotdog come [TS]

00:05:43   back you're ready to go [TS]

00:05:44   Star Trek fans as a rule generally do a [TS]

00:05:46   lot of hotdogs my hotdog microwaving [TS]

00:05:48   yeah that's the way to go [TS]

00:05:49   that's a that's a season 3 episode isn't [TS]

00:05:51   yes and the hogs hollow shells just [TS]

00:05:55   touch the Rockaway fighting with the [TS]

00:05:56   replicator trying to get it to produce a [TS]

00:05:58   decent hotdog my hot dog and coffee [TS]

00:06:00   this is my hot dog and coffee [TS]

00:06:04   I always found the show entertaining but [TS]

00:06:07   it never really grabbed me I and as I [TS]

00:06:10   mentioned on previous episodes not long [TS]

00:06:13   ago my daughter and I were sort of [TS]

00:06:15   starting in on the early twilight zone [TS]

00:06:18   episodes and just offhand and we had [TS]

00:06:22   just done the wrath of khan episode it's [TS]

00:06:23   a good one you should go listen to it [TS]

00:06:25   and I thought to myself well why don't [TS]

00:06:28   we see what she thinks of Star Trek this [TS]

00:06:31   is setting out for five minutes [TS]

00:06:34   that's right is that what she said at [TS]

00:06:37   any rate [TS]

00:06:37   yes so we jumped over and and watched [TS]

00:06:40   the first episode of Star i think it was [TS]

00:06:42   not necessarily the pilot of Star Trek [TS]

00:06:44   because of course I knew which one was [TS]

00:06:46   the official pilot in which was not it [TS]

00:06:48   was the first aired regular app which i [TS]

00:06:51   believe is the mantrap yeah not that [TS]

00:06:53   creative episode but that actually is a [TS]

00:06:55   very good episode was your choice i [TS]

00:06:56   think for the first episode personally [TS]

00:06:58   because it has that the creepy creature [TS]

00:07:00   right well that mean that you're right [TS]

00:07:02   it'sit's well-chosen right it's not one [TS]

00:07:04   of my favorites at all but it's it's [TS]

00:07:05   it's got its got the twilight zone kinda [TS]

00:07:08   feel almost to it right [TS]

00:07:09   yes exactly and a lot of the early ones [TS]

00:07:11   i mean there's some stuff written by [TS]

00:07:12   Richard Matheson for instance and there [TS]

00:07:14   even a couple of plots that I think are [TS]

00:07:16   virtually identical [TS]

00:07:17   some twilight zone episode yeah yeah [TS]

00:07:19   Charlie and for some reason it it just [TS]

00:07:22   caught on with my daughter and she she [TS]

00:07:24   loved it and we've been watching it [TS]

00:07:27   pretty much one tonight with occasional [TS]

00:07:29   breaks to build California missions haha [TS]

00:07:32   everything ready a fourth grade fourth [TS]

00:07:34   grade yeah yeah we've been watching with [TS]

00:07:37   with my kids and I i I'm I'm impressed [TS]

00:07:39   that they are interested and this is [TS]

00:07:43   this is a show from the the sixties [TS]

00:07:45   right i mean the pacing of shows back [TS]

00:07:47   then was very different and my wife and [TS]

00:07:49   I were walking today and I was talking [TS]

00:07:51   about about doing this podcast i said [TS]

00:07:53   it's amazing that the kids i pay [TS]

00:07:55   attention but star trek is in that you [TS]

00:07:57   know Hollywood you know action-adventure [TS]

00:08:01   TV series school and so there's always [TS]

00:08:03   stuff going on and I was comparing it to [TS]

00:08:06   like the 16 episodes of Doctor Who which [TS]

00:08:08   are like like standing in a museum or [TS]

00:08:11   something it's like they're not bringing [TS]

00:08:13   happens for ever and star trek you know [TS]

00:08:17   there's usually a fistfight at some [TS]

00:08:19   point fairly quickly and dramatic music [TS]

00:08:22   and so even kids race and dramatic music [TS]

00:08:25   well that's true they couldn't you know [TS]

00:08:27   they they just keep reusing it right but [TS]

00:08:29   but even kids of the modern era I you [TS]

00:08:32   know the old star trek there's something [TS]

00:08:34   about it that they they they would be [TS]

00:08:36   perfectly within my rights to say this [TS]

00:08:38   is just 50 years old and is not you know [TS]

00:08:41   I can't even watch this but you know it [TS]

00:08:43   something about it they actually it's [TS]

00:08:46   still pretty watchable which is colorful [TS]

00:08:49   shirts with well yeah primary colors [TS]

00:08:51   bright colors and some action right [TS]

00:08:53   direction where I characters and I think [TS]

00:08:56   there's something to be said for the [TS]

00:08:57   fact that it's not too i mean it hasn't [TS]

00:08:59   entered the area of of jump cuts and and [TS]

00:09:02   fast editing and that kind of thing it's [TS]

00:09:04   it's kind of the right speed for a kid [TS]

00:09:06   right of that age who hasn't necessarily [TS]

00:09:09   been ruined by music videos yet so you [TS]

00:09:13   can you can kind of follow the plot it's [TS]

00:09:15   not intimidating even if it's an insane [TS]

00:09:16   plot and you think why why don't they do [TS]

00:09:19   some guests right even though it makes [TS]

00:09:21   it actually works better as a [TS]

00:09:23   nine-year-old because you aren't asking [TS]

00:09:24   too many questions about the plots [TS]

00:09:27   you're just sort of accepting the things [TS]

00:09:28   that are said and you also don't have 40 [TS]

00:09:30   years worth of science fiction tropes to [TS]

00:09:32   fall back on to go and that's not really [TS]

00:09:34   how time travel works well I assume [TS]

00:09:35   that's why work for me as a [TS]

00:09:37   five-year-old watching it back in the [TS]

00:09:39   day is that I you know some of the stuff [TS]

00:09:40   just totally passed over my head and I I [TS]

00:09:42   just you know the the other stuff the [TS]

00:09:44   bright colors and the you know the [TS]

00:09:46   adventure and excitement was enough it [TS]

00:09:49   worked worked worked well enough for me [TS]

00:09:51   and I guess that's that's a true today I [TS]

00:09:54   just think it's kind of cool that that [TS]

00:09:56   anything created 45 years ago on TV [TS]

00:09:59   would be conceivably watchable by a kid [TS]

00:10:02   today it's kind of amazing because you [TS]

00:10:05   know it's so much of the stuff from that [TS]

00:10:06   era the pit [TS]

00:10:07   justjust the pacing stuff alone it would [TS]

00:10:10   be enough to do so much stuff from that [TS]

00:10:12   era is just a snooze even to me because [TS]

00:10:15   it's so slow compared to what we have [TS]

00:10:17   now but Star Trek you know I think again [TS]

00:10:20   because it's it was intended as this [TS]

00:10:21   action adventure show they push it [TS]

00:10:23   pretty hard in terms of you know there [TS]

00:10:26   are fights and there's dramatic music [TS]

00:10:28   and there's aliens and there's you know [TS]

00:10:30   crazy stuff happening and it keeps it [TS]

00:10:32   interesting i do have to say that for me [TS]

00:10:34   personally as somebody who does not have [TS]

00:10:36   the nostalgia factor it is a little bit [TS]

00:10:38   of this news sometimes haha [TS]

00:10:40   Spencer what I the 99 school I struggled [TS]

00:10:43   through some of the episode 31 yeah [TS]

00:10:44   there are some long stretches of not a [TS]

00:10:46   lot happens sure yeah and yeah they're [TS]

00:10:49   bad they're very bad episodes this comes [TS]

00:10:51   back to the the 40 years worth of [TS]

00:10:53   intervening sci-fi but there are a lot [TS]

00:10:56   of things that the crew doesn't get that [TS]

00:10:59   you know you catch that with the [TS]

00:11:00   nine-year-old catches you know 20 [TS]

00:11:02   minutes before the crew figures it out i [TS]

00:11:03   was just 4 i'm watching the episodes now [TS]

00:11:07   in his first season with my wife who [TS]

00:11:09   hasn't seen these episodes so it's [TS]

00:11:12   interesting to get her perspective on it [TS]

00:11:14   she is mostly interested in how much [TS]

00:11:17   wrist the uniform show which seems a lot [TS]

00:11:22   of risks showing so I i heard about this [TS]

00:11:24   low-cut uniform shirts [TS]

00:11:25   those were the days were quite [TS]

00:11:28   controversial at that i was just [TS]

00:11:29   watching the deadly years and actually [TS]

00:11:30   some sometimes I watch the shirts too [TS]

00:11:32   just to see like how tidy Shatner shirt [TS]

00:11:35   when does he wear the alternate sort of [TS]

00:11:36   his fat shirt and all that but he has a [TS]

00:11:39   lot of shirts that each other [TS]

00:11:40   it looks like the first three episodes [TS]

00:11:42   he was like eight different shirt yeah [TS]

00:11:44   but didn't think the deadly years on [TS]

00:11:45   funny when Kirk becomes an old man they [TS]

00:11:48   just give think they put some makeup on [TS]

00:11:50   but they give him a big shirt i love [TS]

00:11:52   that it's like he's so old [TS]

00:11:55   his shirt is large now he's wasting away [TS]

00:11:58   right right to get old and he's got a [TS]

00:12:01   big shirt [TS]

00:12:02   no no he's not qualified to command for [TS]

00:12:05   the shirt that large are you kidding [TS]

00:12:07   benefited shirt you can see his wrists [TS]

00:12:09   no trust him i do like how he has you [TS]

00:12:12   know I always made fun of the fact that [TS]

00:12:13   they made an extra shirt for Kirk which [TS]

00:12:14   is that weird like wraparound thing with [TS]

00:12:17   the logo sideways on the side of it the [TS]

00:12:20   command blouse i believe is what you're [TS]

00:12:22   referring to it yeah except in the next [TS]

00:12:23   generation they do that they eventually [TS]

00:12:25   do that with Picard to give him like the [TS]

00:12:27   leather jacket with the gray shirt [TS]

00:12:29   underneath and like why do captain's I [TS]

00:12:31   guess you're the captain you get a [TS]

00:12:32   captain's piranha you get a bonus [TS]

00:12:34   uniform for its is the home team you get [TS]

00:12:37   you get to pick the jersey their tracks [TS]

00:12:39   you get the better Clubhouse and roast [TS]

00:12:41   week is a this is a halter top week on [TS]

00:12:43   board the enterprise [TS]

00:12:45   I'm just feeling halter this week [TS]

00:12:47   unbelievable and shirtless fridays are [TS]

00:12:49   also important party life before [TS]

00:12:50   chairman [TS]

00:12:51   so in the galaxy quest where Tim Allen's [TS]

00:12:53   his shirt that's that laugh-out-loud [TS]

00:12:55   moments was because in watching the [TS]

00:12:56   episodes back like why does he just [TS]

00:12:59   keeps not having a shirt on for no man [TS]

00:13:02   and when I'm watching my wife she's like [TS]

00:13:04   there we go again [TS]

00:13:06   nothing why why you gotta give the [TS]

00:13:09   ladies what they want [TS]

00:13:10   there are an awful lot of those [TS]

00:13:11   recurring things like like the lack of [TS]

00:13:14   the shirt and that's a feature the [TS]

00:13:17   predictive the variety of ridiculous [TS]

00:13:19   hats that Spock puts on to hide his ears [TS]

00:13:21   oh yeah roughly 30 seconds before [TS]

00:13:24   somebody ripped them off his head [TS]

00:13:25   yeah well that's yeah of course it goes [TS]

00:13:27   without saying [TS]

00:13:28   yes of course he's dead and you know [TS]

00:13:31   there's a number of those yeah that's [TS]

00:13:33   that's part of the joy of Star Trek [TS]

00:13:34   those is waiting for the it's really a [TS]

00:13:37   drinking game kind of show up way ahead [TS]

00:13:39   of its time you know for sure [TS]

00:13:41   four sho that was intended as a cultural [TS]

00:13:45   commentary a lot of the time and you you [TS]

00:13:47   could get you could you could think of [TS]

00:13:50   it somebody described as well as a [TS]

00:13:52   sci-fi show but it was during the [TS]

00:13:53   sixties [TS]

00:13:54   and they did a lot of idealistic things [TS]

00:13:55   where they talked about issues but [TS]

00:13:57   couched in sci-fi which was very [TS]

00:13:59   influential for me because to this day [TS]

00:14:02   that's one of the things I like about [TS]

00:14:03   science fiction is the idea that and [TS]

00:14:05   that's why I read mostly science fiction [TS]

00:14:07   is i love the idea about talking about [TS]

00:14:09   the issues of today but by putting it in [TS]

00:14:13   another world you you get you kind of [TS]

00:14:15   get away with more you get to talk about [TS]

00:14:17   the issues directly without really [TS]

00:14:20   dealing with the the details that happen [TS]

00:14:23   in the modern Indian or in our regular [TS]

00:14:25   world that comes straight from Star Trek [TS]

00:14:27   but you could tell that story and people [TS]

00:14:28   be like wow that's a real snooze this is [TS]

00:14:30   gonna be like a liberal hippie lecture [TS]

00:14:34   about the stuff and what strikes me [TS]

00:14:36   about the original Star Trek is it they [TS]

00:14:39   didn't take themselves too seriously [TS]

00:14:41   right there's a lot of like wackiness [TS]

00:14:44   happening on Star Trek and and it could [TS]

00:14:47   have been like death right if this was [TS]

00:14:50   played straight and it's not played I [TS]

00:14:53   mean there are things that are serious [TS]

00:14:55   in it but it's not it's not played [TS]

00:14:57   straight there are there are like I mean [TS]

00:14:59   to the point where there are many [TS]

00:15:00   episodes that end with everybody [TS]

00:15:02   laughing and then there's a freeze frame [TS]

00:15:03   like it's an episode of Knight Rider or [TS]

00:15:06   of I don't know some 80 sits on product [TS]

00:15:09   of the time hardcastle mccormick yeah [TS]

00:15:11   I'll hold steady in the chatroom points [TS]

00:15:15   out interracial kiss that's another one [TS]

00:15:17   of those ones that would come up there's [TS]

00:15:18   there's no yeah rarely an episode where [TS]

00:15:20   Kirk isn't macking on somebody and then [TS]

00:15:23   later seasons they actually i think even [TS]

00:15:25   bones and check off checkoff has a hole [TS]

00:15:27   in the Western episode gets a girl and [TS]

00:15:30   when his ex-girlfriend is in me in the [TS]

00:15:32   episode my daughter always hides her [TS]

00:15:35   face when those moments come up so oh [TS]

00:15:37   yeah my daughter was rolling her eyes [TS]

00:15:38   today when hurt when Kirk was a was [TS]

00:15:41   kissing oh I forget even I mean there's [TS]

00:15:44   so many I can't even remember which [TS]

00:15:46   episode that was where you kissing some [TS]

00:15:48   girl because that's what he does right [TS]

00:15:50   that's that's easy resistible because [TS]

00:15:52   shirts off usually it's just money for [TS]

00:15:54   all the social commentary for all of the [TS]

00:15:56   commentary on race and such [TS]

00:15:57   that's evident in Star Trek as far as [TS]

00:16:00   females were concerned we weren't quite [TS]

00:16:02   there yet [TS]

00:16:03   yeah it was interesting and yet for the [TS]

00:16:06   time for the time [TS]

00:16:07   it was actually groundbreaking in terms [TS]

00:16:09   of feminists who got a black woman on [TS]

00:16:11   the bridge is the communications officer [TS]

00:16:12   that's impressive in 1968 yeah it's just [TS]

00:16:16   now looking back you think that was a [TS]

00:16:18   moment in the corbomite maneuver which [TS]

00:16:19   is the like I said the first episode [TS]

00:16:21   they shot after the two pilots that a [TS]

00:16:23   yeoman Rand comes to give him his salad [TS]

00:16:27   that dr. McCoy is prescribed which is [TS]

00:16:29   very funny because he shoots of daggers [TS]

00:16:31   like you know you're telling me that [TS]

00:16:33   even fully formed the first episode with [TS]

00:16:36   mccoy it you know fully formed that [TS]

00:16:38   relationship and how Kirk is like McCoy [TS]

00:16:41   you're ruining my life but it was the [TS]

00:16:43   amazing thing about it is there's this [TS]

00:16:45   weird exchange where Kirk says the you [TS]

00:16:48   know if I talk to the person that [TS]

00:16:49   Starfleet who assigned me a female [TS]

00:16:51   yeoman and McCoy just immediately [TS]

00:16:53   responds what Jim don't you trust [TS]

00:16:55   yourself and it's like wow good [TS]

00:16:59   oh ok first in the mantrap human r and [TS]

00:17:03   delivers a salad to Sulu some reason [TS]

00:17:06   that's what she does that was heard her [TS]

00:17:08   jobs salad delivery dole salad McCoy is [TS]

00:17:11   insane [TS]

00:17:12   McCoy is prescribing salad if McCoy had [TS]

00:17:15   his way there'd be no more meat on the [TS]

00:17:17   ship it would all be salad all the time [TS]

00:17:19   I always thought they like they [TS]

00:17:20   shouldn't be eating on the bridge right [TS]

00:17:22   like it like that can't be good for the [TS]

00:17:23   controls and yet it yet in Corbin might [TS]

00:17:25   maneuver Rand there's up to be covered [TS]

00:17:29   and thermos of coffee is how confused it [TS]

00:17:31   seems like they have real salad and yet [TS]

00:17:33   when they go to eat anything else it's [TS]

00:17:34   like phonebloks multicolored foam well [TS]

00:17:38   they have a hydroponics Bay yeah I can [TS]

00:17:40   grow their own salad [TS]

00:17:41   sure okay you're not supposed to look [TS]

00:17:43   very closely at the foam blocks outlet [TS]

00:17:45   is is I mean again dr. McCoy is looking [TS]

00:17:48   for the welfare of the crew if they [TS]

00:17:50   really want meet it will be served in [TS]

00:17:51   block form better but you can have a [TS]

00:17:54   fresh salad [TS]

00:17:55   anytime speaking of food is and talking [TS]

00:17:59   about how the characters don't seem to [TS]

00:18:00   get what's going on [TS]

00:18:02   so Charlie x which i watch because i'm [TS]

00:18:04   watching the first few the first season [TS]

00:18:06   which episode I like involves a this kid [TS]

00:18:09   who has powers it's an early shirtless [TS]

00:18:11   Kirk really short skirt in fact I [TS]

00:18:13   believe he gets shirtless to show [TS]

00:18:15   charlie s a few moves [TS]

00:18:17   yeah you can find out basically [TS]

00:18:19   Jim yeah it says let's do some judo [TS]

00:18:21   because you seem unstable first thing [TS]

00:18:23   was that we take off the shirt that's [TS]

00:18:25   that's yeah first order of business in [TS]

00:18:27   any kind of Judo Charlie ex was [TS]

00:18:29   originally called Anthony in the [TS]

00:18:30   twilight zone episode but here he's [TS]

00:18:32   totally act naturally [TS]

00:18:34   yes it is exactly pretty much the same [TS]

00:18:36   plot but anyway so it's Charlie exhales [TS]

00:18:38   these powers and he in the episode takes [TS]

00:18:42   place on thanksgiving and the crew can [TS]

00:18:44   have turkey they have to have a [TS]

00:18:45   synthetic meat loaf [TS]

00:18:47   yes which Charlie x6 is said apparently [TS]

00:18:50   so he's Starfleet sucks [TS]

00:18:52   yeah but we have a real kale really k [TS]

00:18:56   let me know thanks bro he magically [TS]

00:18:59   turns it into Turkey and they report to [TS]

00:19:02   the captain and he doesn't seem [TS]

00:19:03   perturbed that magically their synthetic [TS]

00:19:07   meat loaf is turned into turkey well [TS]

00:19:09   card seems like the kind of guy who [TS]

00:19:10   would let it go as long as it was just [TS]

00:19:11   food that was young trans transformed [TS]

00:19:13   that's all he gives con complete access [TS]

00:19:17   to all technical manuals for the entire [TS]

00:19:19   ship they're not very good why would you [TS]

00:19:21   not let he'd ok he's exhibiting extra [TS]

00:19:26   human powers but but he's making turkey [TS]

00:19:31   series good took all right call me if he [TS]

00:19:33   does something bad like more salad but [TS]

00:19:35   otherwise I'm okay with that episode [TS]

00:19:38   also contains the line where Kirk [TS]

00:19:40   explains to Charlie X and he says [TS]

00:19:42   there's no right way to hit a woman [TS]

00:19:43   which is true [TS]

00:19:45   yeah that was feminism of 1967 is that [TS]

00:19:51   all [TS]

00:19:52   yeah yeah no it's it's it's again it's [TS]

00:19:56   remarkable how its managed to not age as [TS]

00:19:59   much as I think it could and its own oh [TS]

00:20:02   you know it because because it was so [TS]

00:20:04   radical at the time and now we think [TS]

00:20:06   that it's kinda queen but at the time a [TS]

00:20:08   lot of the stuff that we we don't think [TS]

00:20:09   which take for granted at the time was [TS]

00:20:11   kind of kind of crazy radical for Star [TS]

00:20:14   Trek i'm going to get to give them full [TS]

00:20:16   credit but even so there are those [TS]

00:20:18   moments where you're like you know how [TS]

00:20:20   well here's my love that I love when [TS]

00:20:21   they cut to Captain Kirk putting his [TS]

00:20:23   boots on because that means that there's [TS]

00:20:26   been some some some bed duty forecast [TS]

00:20:30   incur [TS]

00:20:30   and now he's done and can put his boots [TS]

00:20:33   back on [TS]

00:20:35   that's ok Captain Kirk yeah yeah that's [TS]

00:20:40   right an Orion slave woman in every port [TS]

00:20:42   every Starbase so I i love you know that [TS]

00:20:46   we can make fun of of Star Trek because [TS]

00:20:48   there are so many things and it also [TS]

00:20:50   deals with the fact that this is the [TS]

00:20:52   show that is the root for so many other [TS]

00:20:55   things so that a lot of the troops here [TS]

00:20:57   get expanded upon by other shows and of [TS]

00:21:00   course have become famous and have been [TS]

00:21:02   parodied in movies like galaxy quest but [TS]

00:21:05   you know again I i have such a love for [TS]

00:21:08   the show and I have to admit there are [TS]

00:21:10   there are many terrible episodes and [TS]

00:21:14   there are many fantastic wonderful [TS]

00:21:16   episodes for lots of different reasons [TS]

00:21:17   and i thought one of the things we could [TS]

00:21:18   do was just walk through I mean we can't [TS]

00:21:22   walk through all 79 because that would [TS]

00:21:24   be involved I guess I believe there is a [TS]

00:21:26   podcast actually out there on the [TS]

00:21:28   internet and i'll put it in the show [TS]

00:21:29   notes that is walking through every [TS]

00:21:32   single episode one by one and Scott and [TS]

00:21:33   I have discussed one day doing a wheel [TS]

00:21:36   of fortune style a lottery style podcast [TS]

00:21:38   where we just pick a random episode of [TS]

00:21:41   Star Trek and talk about it [TS]

00:21:43   ok I'm in for that good or bad all [TS]

00:21:45   all-seer all also basically like if it's [TS]

00:21:48   a really lousy episode of voyager too [TS]

00:21:50   bad you gotta watch it right there [TS]

00:21:52   watching but but it you know anyway but [TS]

00:21:54   I wanted to ask you guys I asked you to [TS]

00:21:57   before the show to come up with a few [TS]

00:21:59   and Scott I took a few to me like more [TS]

00:22:02   than the doesn't episodes that you like [TS]

00:22:05   and then maybe some episodes we can talk [TS]

00:22:06   about that are stinkers so we can we can [TS]

00:22:08   focus in on a few episodes of the [TS]

00:22:11   original Star Trek and talk about them [TS]

00:22:12   so Steve do you have a an episode that [TS]

00:22:16   that you'd like to bring up as as one of [TS]

00:22:18   the ones that you really liked I've got [TS]

00:22:20   a couple alright yeah there's a few that [TS]

00:22:23   that I just think are cool because [TS]

00:22:24   there's their places where I'm finally [TS]

00:22:27   getting references that I've heard a [TS]

00:22:29   thousand times like Mary for instance [TS]

00:22:31   with no fool lease well just another [TS]

00:22:34   email thread the earlier this week I [TS]

00:22:36   said brain and brain what is brain [TS]

00:22:37   you're like oh I get that now [TS]

00:22:40   regrettably yes sadly he watched box [TS]

00:22:43   braids i have a whole new storehouse of [TS]

00:22:45   utterly useless knowledge now thank you [TS]

00:22:48   very much you wanted the star trek and [TS]

00:22:50   we'll sit right alongside the combined [TS]

00:22:52   lyrics of ABBA [TS]

00:22:53   thank you for that so i like i like that [TS]

00:22:56   i like Corbin my new maneuver although [TS]

00:22:57   you're right it is a bit slow [TS]

00:22:59   ya know i love that that's on my list [TS]

00:23:01   yeah I don't want to go too much into [TS]

00:23:02   detail on max I figured you guys would [TS]

00:23:04   spend about 45 minutes back [TS]

00:23:05   yeah when Howard this is bad so yeah I [TS]

00:23:08   like the changeling which is the one [TS]

00:23:10   with the nomads robot robot that floats [TS]

00:23:12   around the enterprise there's something [TS]

00:23:13   real creepy about that huh [TS]

00:23:15   I i wonder how much of my dislike of [TS]

00:23:18   that episode now is because they remade [TS]

00:23:19   it is the Star Trek the motion picture [TS]

00:23:21   they ripped off so much of that for Star [TS]

00:23:23   Trek the motion picture that it kind of [TS]

00:23:25   lost its luster for me [TS]

00:23:26   yeah I blacked out of my mind I am nomad [TS]

00:23:29   in the commercial but that's the talking [TS]

00:23:33   when he's not talking [TS]

00:23:34   he's a little creepy is really creepy [TS]

00:23:36   right here to it came up and he just [TS]

00:23:38   starts floating around right i think [TS]

00:23:41   probably of the stub episodes i've seen [TS]

00:23:44   and again I'm not seen all of season 3 [TS]

00:23:46   so there could be some real gems back [TS]

00:23:47   there on the back there is there's some [TS]

00:23:50   glorious there was no longer there is [TS]

00:23:52   the next to last episode is actually [TS]

00:23:53   really good I think my favorite of all [TS]

00:23:56   is probably the finale of season one [TS]

00:23:59   operation annihilate partially because [TS]

00:24:03   it's the one with the ! and how could [TS]

00:24:05   you not get that colon and ! oh my God [TS]

00:24:08   he's got a colon to it's got everything [TS]

00:24:10   and I think they picked up all the [TS]

00:24:11   punctuation that a lot of star trek into [TS]

00:24:13   darkness [TS]

00:24:15   that's right they over they used up all [TS]

00:24:17   the punctuation [TS]

00:24:19   yeah I like that one because it has some [TS]

00:24:22   kind of creepy horror elements like that [TS]

00:24:24   the guys running towards the crew with [TS]

00:24:26   their club shouting we don't want to [TS]

00:24:27   hurt you right I like that it's kind of [TS]

00:24:29   a nice precursor to some of the later [TS]

00:24:31   zombie films which I've been known to [TS]

00:24:33   enjoy from your time and then I like the [TS]

00:24:36   fact that the bad guys turn out to be [TS]

00:24:37   flying eggs over easy [TS]

00:24:39   yeah yeah yeah I always thought they [TS]

00:24:41   were more like pancakes but you're right [TS]

00:24:42   it's there's something there's something [TS]

00:24:43   freaky about that because that you know [TS]

00:24:45   they attach themselves to you and then [TS]

00:24:47   you go nuts and Steve you and I went to [TS]

00:24:49   UCSD and although the this episode [TS]

00:24:51   operation annihilate was shot like the [TS]

00:24:53   RAND Corporation in El [TS]

00:24:54   I it looks uh it's of that architectural [TS]

00:24:58   very much might as well be sick shot at [TS]

00:25:00   central library using a really good [TS]

00:25:02   point [TS]

00:25:03   tango and Kirk's brother makes a [TS]

00:25:06   surprise appearance in that very briefly [TS]

00:25:08   yeah it's pretty well I think he appears [TS]

00:25:10   on the floor and that's pretty much it [TS]

00:25:12   yes killed by a pancake yeah things [TS]

00:25:15   never go well for people from his past [TS]

00:25:17   and crew seems to have brothers and [TS]

00:25:20   sisters that sort of appear and [TS]

00:25:22   disappear depending on whether they need [TS]

00:25:24   to have a dead family member for a given [TS]

00:25:26   plot points right and there's even a [TS]

00:25:28   fake brother i think the checkoff gets [TS]

00:25:30   at one point during a an episode where [TS]

00:25:33   there's a sort of fake war being staged [TS]

00:25:37   on board the enterprise between the crew [TS]

00:25:39   and the Klingons oh yes yes yes but yeah [TS]

00:25:43   i really liked that episode is I guess I [TS]

00:25:45   i enjoy the ones where they really do [TS]

00:25:47   try to make it sort of a space-based [TS]

00:25:51   show as opposed to this is a spaceship [TS]

00:25:54   and here we have come upon something [TS]

00:25:56   that could have happened in a regular [TS]

00:25:58   show because we ran out of ideas for [TS]

00:26:00   science fiction and now now we're going [TS]

00:26:03   to have the crew escaping chicago and so [TS]

00:26:07   that another one that I like a lot is [TS]

00:26:08   devil in the dark which is the one where [TS]

00:26:11   the oh yes that the large rolled-up [TS]

00:26:14   carpet is attacking miners yeah the [TS]

00:26:17   whore whore whore time thank you i love [TS]

00:26:19   that I love that episode that is that's [TS]

00:26:21   in my I think I've made a list and I [TS]

00:26:23   tried to order it roughly in their order [TS]

00:26:25   of my favorite and that's in my top like [TS]

00:26:27   two or three [TS]

00:26:28   no it burns messages with with its acid [TS]

00:26:31   oakhill i right [TS]

00:26:33   but it's such a it's such a beautiful [TS]

00:26:35   episode because it is got the great [TS]

00:26:37   horror movie right kind of tropes of [TS]

00:26:39   land is it is genuinely creepy witch [TS]

00:26:41   it's there are too many episodes where [TS]

00:26:43   they they really managed to to do fear [TS]

00:26:46   or tension [TS]

00:26:48   yeah they're in those tunnels and write [TS]

00:26:50   a monster is going to come and kill them [TS]

00:26:51   in the gut and the guys get you know [TS]

00:26:53   horribly burned by the acid and it's [TS]

00:26:55   almost pre alien in nature really yeah [TS]

00:26:57   yeah you're right right it's very [TS]

00:26:59   similar to that in spite of the fact [TS]

00:27:00   that the creature looks like a calzone [TS]

00:27:01   that was left in the microwave [TS]

00:27:04   but i also think it's probably one of [TS]

00:27:06   the first instances where there's some [TS]

00:27:08   sort of malevolent creature and Spock [TS]

00:27:10   melds with it and they and when they [TS]

00:27:12   realize that this thing is a is actually [TS]

00:27:14   on the good side all actually arena [TS]

00:27:16   might have proceeded as protecting its [TS]

00:27:18   kids that's your desert great twilight [TS]

00:27:20   zone twist though is that this the [TS]

00:27:21   creature is horrible and not humanoid in [TS]

00:27:23   any way and in fact silicon-based not [TS]

00:27:25   even carbon-based life-form and yet in [TS]

00:27:28   the end what we realize is that these [TS]

00:27:30   jerks who are the miners here we are the [TS]

00:27:34   real monster part what we have is real [TS]

00:27:37   monsters not right [TS]

00:27:38   the miners because them because the [TS]

00:27:39   those little balls its eggs [TS]

00:27:42   it's just a mother trying to protect its [TS]

00:27:44   eggs but of course that's one of those [TS]

00:27:45   episodes where you knew that like to act [TS]

00:27:48   two hours before the cryptic that's true [TS]

00:27:50   but i do love a whore omelet though [TS]

00:27:52   order on let excellent rather than I [TS]

00:27:55   can't even judge it though because again [TS]

00:27:57   I i I've seen that episode so long that [TS]

00:27:59   I don't remember not realizing the split [TS]

00:28:01   the eggs so there's no way for me to [TS]

00:28:03   judge whether I would have gotten that [TS]

00:28:04   I've seen that coming but it's so it's [TS]

00:28:07   just it's so beautiful because in the [TS]

00:28:08   end this monster [TS]

00:28:09   I just love that that moment where Spock [TS]

00:28:12   you know mind melds with the Horta and [TS]

00:28:15   and in the high pitch voice he talks [TS]

00:28:17   about how upset it is and and then the [TS]

00:28:19   idea at the end where we're basically [TS]

00:28:21   these miners are all Jason and kind of [TS]

00:28:23   sad that they've done this tour terrible [TS]

00:28:25   thing and and you hear that the Horde [TS]

00:28:27   and its babies have hatched and they're [TS]

00:28:29   just moving around and everybody's happy [TS]

00:28:31   and yeah yeah yeah that's right to its [TS]

00:28:34   expand opportunity for Nimoy to [TS]

00:28:36   monologue and actually show some emotion [TS]

00:28:37   as i recall and oh yeah sequence and [TS]

00:28:40   that's it that's a pretty good bit one [TS]

00:28:42   of those one of those rare we're kind of [TS]

00:28:44   things where he does the just a full-on [TS]

00:28:45   emotion and yeah i love i love that [TS]

00:28:47   episode because it it gives you that [TS]

00:28:49   nice night that nice twist that you want [TS]

00:28:51   where it starts out and it's this kind [TS]

00:28:53   of creepy Monster plot and then it turns [TS]

00:28:54   out where the monsters again which is [TS]

00:28:57   your to go to twilight zone twist right [TS]

00:28:59   but it wouldn't have worked seven or [TS]

00:29:00   eight times in the rest of the series as [TS]

00:29:02   well but at this point it was still [TS]

00:29:04   fairly fresh i think that the taxes owed [TS]

00:29:06   might have preceded this one but this [TS]

00:29:08   one is pretty good [TS]

00:29:09   yeah and this one features a McCoy [TS]

00:29:11   proclaiming that he is a doctor and not [TS]

00:29:13   in fact a bricklayer [TS]

00:29:15   Oh with which one is the one where he [TS]

00:29:17   says he's not an escalator I think [TS]

00:29:19   that's my personal i don't think that [TS]

00:29:22   might be the Gordon wasn't no he wasn't [TS]

00:29:23   no yeah and I just watching that 10 but [TS]

00:29:25   the bricklayer but that's a beautiful [TS]

00:29:26   thing because he looked but it shows [TS]

00:29:28   McCoy like trying to adapt to the [TS]

00:29:30   ridiculous science-fictional premises so [TS]

00:29:32   he's like I can get some like plaster [TS]

00:29:34   maybe that'll work right all right let's [TS]

00:29:38   try it it's like cause in Britain [TS]

00:29:40   bandages are called plasters and this is [TS]

00:29:42   a silicon-based life-form so therefore [TS]

00:29:44   maybe I could use actual plaster as a [TS]

00:29:47   plaster does anybody have any salad [TS]

00:29:50   why we happen to have some after bone [TS]

00:29:55   saves the Horta he has a victory salad [TS]

00:29:57   that's right i get the impression the [TS]

00:29:58   bones actually has all the meat on the [TS]

00:30:00   ship and what he's doing by prescribing [TS]

00:30:02   salad everything else is just taking [TS]

00:30:04   their meat away so he can trade heat [TS]

00:30:07   heats all of the brown colored blocks [TS]

00:30:09   it's it's unclear what what the [TS]

00:30:11   qualifications are to practice medicine [TS]

00:30:12   in the future you know that computer [TS]

00:30:14   probably does a lot of the work for and [TS]

00:30:17   with you know you just have to be cranky [TS]

00:30:19   he just has to kind of show up and read [TS]

00:30:21   stuff that's a man I'm a doctor not a oh [TS]

00:30:23   I'm a doctor right to call it bones does [TS]

00:30:26   medicine is a bit of a stretch [TS]

00:30:28   I mean you points little pussy and easy [TS]

00:30:32   and you he was tension with a pen that [TS]

00:30:34   is supposed to inject you with something [TS]

00:30:35   and if if by some chance you are killed [TS]

00:30:38   he will flow 2 d-cell battery around [TS]

00:30:41   your head that makes it knows for a [TS]

00:30:43   little while before declaring you dead [TS]

00:30:45   but he also has those are the pedals in [TS]

00:30:48   the wall as we won't happen again [TS]

00:30:50   yeah he just got those at a very high [TS]

00:30:52   cost its I have to assume that the [TS]

00:30:55   entire crew of the enterprise has signed [TS]

00:30:57   a do-not-resuscitate because he never [TS]

00:31:00   even tries but it's just he's dead [TS]

00:31:03   they're always dead by the time he gets [TS]

00:31:04   there he gets there like 33 seconds [TS]

00:31:06   after they were shot or hit with a [TS]

00:31:08   rocket but he knows they're not going to [TS]

00:31:09   make it he's that good [TS]

00:31:11   hehe no don't fall he says he's got a [TS]

00:31:12   lot to do you he doesn't want to get [TS]

00:31:14   like hung up its you know [TS]

00:31:16   it's just like that room no no he's lost [TS]

00:31:19   it's not like they're not making a thing [TS]

00:31:21   too much like that guy will remove [TS]

00:31:23   always another one just like him [TS]

00:31:25   yeah bones knows when to cut his losses [TS]

00:31:28   right and then of course amok time which [TS]

00:31:32   I'm sure will know later yeah with the [TS]

00:31:34   pon farr not to be confused with its [TS]

00:31:35   close cousin Jamie Farr know but very [TS]

00:31:38   different or equally disturbed alicious [TS]

00:31:40   parfait [TS]

00:31:41   no well that's that's the episode where [TS]

00:31:43   we get most of the Vulcan stuff which is [TS]

00:31:46   that's it that's it for the Vulcan stuff [TS]

00:31:48   except for the benihana like quarters of [TS]

00:31:49   the spot well no there's there's a [TS]

00:31:51   journey to Babel with his parents right [TS]

00:31:54   which follows it up a little bit but [TS]

00:31:55   isn't a mark time like the beginning of [TS]

00:31:57   the second season so that's like [TS]

00:31:58   literally the fans were in love with mr. [TS]

00:32:00   Spock and so they didn't episode where [TS]

00:32:02   they really like you wouldn't believe [TS]

00:32:04   the first episode aired in the second [TS]

00:32:06   season you know not in fact the first [TS]

00:32:07   episode [TS]

00:32:09   yeah but closer to close enough where [TS]

00:32:10   they had done the first year and they [TS]

00:32:11   realized that people oh they love mr. [TS]

00:32:14   Spock all right we'll we'll take you to [TS]

00:32:15   mr. Spock's home planet and you end up [TS]

00:32:18   with this this uh you know actually [TS]

00:32:20   pretty cool episode with a couple of [TS]

00:32:23   twists and turns and Spock ends up [TS]

00:32:25   having to fight Kirk and that in my [TS]

00:32:27   maybe my single most favorite a moment [TS]

00:32:30   in the series is when after after [TS]

00:32:34   spotting she's killed kirk and two [TS]

00:32:36   palaces live long and prosper Spock and [TS]

00:32:38   he says I've killed my captain my friend [TS]

00:32:40   I shall do neither and he's just like [TS]

00:32:42   Spock slow point has been reached and [TS]

00:32:45   these beams of course dr. McCoy while [TS]

00:32:47   having a salad has formulated of a fake [TS]

00:32:51   compound and complex gym [TS]

00:32:54   I mean I really is good showing a little [TS]

00:32:58   bit of heart and soul i know it and [TS]

00:33:00   there's a nice reference to eighties [TS]

00:33:02   music thank you Steve well you already [TS]

00:33:03   mentioned two pals so I figured it [TS]

00:33:05   needed to be done it it did it i was [TS]

00:33:07   just reading on wikipedia that the lead [TS]

00:33:09   singer of the band Tupou was ironing [TS]

00:33:11   like a shirt while watching Star Trek [TS]

00:33:13   and that episode was on and she's like [TS]

00:33:16   an in-house she dropped in the bathtub [TS]

00:33:17   she was saying how that's that's pretty [TS]

00:33:19   that's pretty good and they named [TS]

00:33:21   themselves and then they had about one [TS]

00:33:24   hit [TS]

00:33:24   that's a good episode 0 mach time I you [TS]

00:33:28   know it's a [TS]

00:33:29   because i love that that it's all like [TS]

00:33:32   the bureaucracy of Vulcan sexuality it's [TS]

00:33:34   like it's like well technically you know [TS]

00:33:37   well he has to come back to Vulcan [TS]

00:33:38   alright fine he throws soup nurse Chapel [TS]

00:33:40   which is great [TS]

00:33:42   he's very testy when a bit where he in a [TS]

00:33:44   sexual frenzy crushes his computer [TS]

00:33:46   monitor like it's a piece of plastic [TS]

00:33:48   which it is [TS]

00:33:49   yes which its but he doesn't number on [TS]

00:33:52   that they're easily broken [TS]

00:33:53   I know how he feels incidentally I've [TS]

00:33:55   been there Spock [TS]

00:33:57   yeah we all want to crush if my monitor [TS]

00:33:59   was made of the crushable soft plastic i [TS]

00:34:02   would do that all the time it's tough [TS]

00:34:03   it's every seven years or something so [TS]

00:34:06   he's so angry you think you think he [TS]

00:34:08   would like put a reminder in his [TS]

00:34:10   calendar and don't put away eyes [TS]

00:34:13   yeah how do you think you're super help [TS]

00:34:15   me chapel God Vulcans and bonfire only [TS]

00:34:19   eat salads what yeah that's it what what [TS]

00:34:22   happened is that he went to dr. McCoy is [TS]

00:34:23   for helping me just prescribed salad not [TS]

00:34:26   helpful [TS]

00:34:27   that's note this makes it very agreed [TS]

00:34:29   blood Spock you shouldn't you be in here [TS]

00:34:32   it makes it worse [TS]

00:34:33   yeah much worse anyway so that doesn't [TS]

00:34:36   for my handful of favorites i could [TS]

00:34:38   probably do more like you i think the [TS]

00:34:40   ones that I like there are there are [TS]

00:34:42   actually quite a few that i enjoy there [TS]

00:34:44   are too many that sort of jump out as [TS]

00:34:45   being best of show but those those are [TS]

00:34:48   among my favorites least favorites [TS]

00:34:51   pretty much anyone where the the writer [TS]

00:34:54   said hey we're out of ideas and we have [TS]

00:34:56   this that perfectly good Roman /o west [TS]

00:35:00   side of Chicago City gameplay around [TS]

00:35:02   those so let's have the crew get [TS]

00:35:04   marooned their planet of the back lots [TS]

00:35:07   will put will put spoke in a little like [TS]

00:35:09   a beret or a balaclava or something and [TS]

00:35:12   my wife and I were talking about this [TS]

00:35:15   today because she didn't grow up with [TS]

00:35:18   Star Trek really and she makes fun of [TS]

00:35:20   the no plan that the Nazis planet of the [TS]

00:35:22   gangsters and what I was saying to her [TS]

00:35:24   as you know some of those episodes [TS]

00:35:26   aren't so bad there are other episodes [TS]

00:35:28   that aren't as well known that are much [TS]

00:35:30   worse like if they had done one it would [TS]

00:35:32   have been quite good so actually like [TS]

00:35:34   like a piece of the action is actually [TS]

00:35:36   one of my favorites because it's funny [TS]

00:35:37   and it's got plot where it's not like [TS]

00:35:39   the gangsters magically appeared there [TS]

00:35:42   like it's part of [TS]

00:35:43   the there's like cultural contamination [TS]

00:35:45   that leads to the gangsters being there [TS]

00:35:47   and even planted the Nazis episode which [TS]

00:35:49   is not one patterns of force not one of [TS]

00:35:51   my favorites but the idea there is like [TS]

00:35:53   a historian had the bright idea of like [TS]

00:35:55   well part of what Hitler did word so bad [TS]

00:35:57   lets try no no don't do it right and he [TS]

00:36:01   doesn't it's a it's a disaster but there [TS]

00:36:03   are also this episode's like theirs [TS]

00:36:06   theirs miri which is like we've come to [TS]

00:36:08   a planet that's exactly like Earth why [TS]

00:36:10   why is it exactly like Earth it just how [TS]

00:36:12   much parallel development is going on [TS]

00:36:14   here in the universe in the same sector [TS]

00:36:17   that the enterprise happens to be it [TS]

00:36:18   right or bread and circuses which is [TS]

00:36:20   like it's it's the Romans or and there [TS]

00:36:23   are a few episodes like that nose or the [TS]

00:36:25   one with the Omega glory right with the [TS]

00:36:27   eggs and the combs where it's that like [TS]

00:36:29   they end up with an American flag and [TS]

00:36:30   they do the Pledge of Allegiance that [TS]

00:36:32   one that's bad that's obsessed what gets [TS]

00:36:34   it like i can get the like parallel [TS]

00:36:36   development like we can be as a world [TS]

00:36:38   that looks that you know it's in many [TS]

00:36:40   ways similar to their ancient Romans but [TS]

00:36:41   it's like no it's exactly like the [TS]

00:36:43   ancient Romans they have you know that [TS]

00:36:45   they have in fact iconography that you [TS]

00:36:47   know as has developed identical in [TS]

00:36:49   parallel here where people have like in [TS]

00:36:51   Jesus is also yeah that that my way [TS]

00:36:55   Jesus you know whatever we have to be [TS]

00:36:57   later than a lot better if they just cut [TS]

00:36:59   it off like two minutes before they did [TS]

00:37:00   that in the end it's just did not did [TS]

00:37:03   not help i guess this is either it's [TS]

00:37:05   either a trope of 60 science fiction [TS]

00:37:07   that hasn't survived because it's [TS]

00:37:08   ridiculous or it was just like what the [TS]

00:37:11   hell you know it's sci-fi nobody's gonna [TS]

00:37:14   nobody's going to care what it looks [TS]

00:37:16   like with Miri I feel like they just [TS]

00:37:17   didn't have a planet to use so they said [TS]

00:37:19   we'll just say it looks exactly like [TS]

00:37:21   Earth what why what why they were [TS]

00:37:24   calling us what they I mean most of the [TS]

00:37:25   time the excuse would be their colonists [TS]

00:37:27   well most of the time but not all right [TS]

00:37:29   not it not in miri where they just ran [TS]

00:37:31   the planet that looks exactly like Earth [TS]

00:37:32   is that night are you sure yeah we're in [TS]

00:37:34   infected with some sort of virus you [TS]

00:37:36   have no but the planet like the [TS]

00:37:38   geography of the planet it's literally [TS]

00:37:40   the same continent [TS]

00:37:41   it doesn't make any sense i think they [TS]

00:37:43   just didn't wanna have another planet [TS]

00:37:45   shape so much so they a red ball or a [TS]

00:37:49   yellow ball so they just had the earth [TS]

00:37:51   again somewhat that with no clouds [TS]

00:37:52   because they didn't really know about [TS]

00:37:54   clouds a pair [TS]

00:37:55   the difference there's no class no [TS]

00:37:58   weather satellites that point uh yeah [TS]

00:38:01   you know those are the ones but the like [TS]

00:38:03   the Omega glory where he played me stop [TS]

00:38:05   right where the literally the climax of [TS]

00:38:08   the episode is Kirk reading said them so [TS]

00:38:11   badly wrist reading the preamble to the [TS]

00:38:14   constitution of that freedom is the [TS]

00:38:16   demonstration where is where is so [TS]

00:38:19   terrible those the ones that really get [TS]

00:38:21   what why do you hate America has five i [TS]

00:38:23   don't i just hate the Omega glory it's [TS]

00:38:25   really bad it's really bad not only [TS]

00:38:28   commies hate that episode [TS]

00:38:30   yeah yeah the combs but so those are [TS]

00:38:33   pretty bad and and i agree with you on [TS]

00:38:35   all those points just the fact that they [TS]

00:38:36   went to that well so many times i think [TS]

00:38:38   is probably the worst of it yeah i'm not [TS]

00:38:41   a big fan of cats paw which is the [TS]

00:38:43   halloween flavor that's that's high on [TS]

00:38:46   my list DeWitt elated that turns into a [TS]

00:38:48   huge cat for summary there's a witch and [TS]

00:38:50   warlock and a like bird made out of [TS]

00:38:52   feather three pipe cleaners and it's [TS]

00:38:57   yeah it's the Halloween it's not [TS]

00:39:00   Halloween up as a halloween episode and [TS]

00:39:01   it's it's incomprehensibly best dreadful [TS]

00:39:04   it is dreadful [TS]

00:39:05   even as a halloween episode it's bad [TS]

00:39:07   it's so you better than that does just [TS]

00:39:09   those limitations because it's that run [TS]

00:39:11   around of like there's they have [TS]

00:39:12   complete control and nothing is real so [TS]

00:39:14   the the characters do things and they're [TS]

00:39:15   immediately negated and it's a little [TS]

00:39:17   bit like the squire of gothos with [TS]

00:39:19   trelaina but that's a much better [TS]

00:39:20   episode this one is just do nothing [TS]

00:39:23   happiness [TS]

00:39:24   yeah right yeah but this one nothing [TS]

00:39:26   happens they just I mean it's like a guy [TS]

00:39:29   with a cape and a color and the lady you [TS]

00:39:32   need and jo it's so bad [TS]

00:39:35   yeah catspaw so 81 again you talk about [TS]

00:39:38   the plan of the Nazis all you like cats [TS]

00:39:40   paw way worse [TS]

00:39:41   I agree I agree I agree and again it's [TS]

00:39:44   it's the reason i don't like those other [TS]

00:39:45   episodes just because it's been done and [TS]

00:39:48   it wasn't a great the first time oh yeah [TS]

00:39:49   but the catspaw features a tiny [TS]

00:39:51   enterprise that asks that is true they [TS]

00:39:54   do shrink the enterprise down into a [TS]

00:39:55   pendant you know what Scott is always [TS]

00:39:57   actually kind of small stuff model [TS]

00:40:00   yeah sorry in my mind they put it over a [TS]

00:40:03   flame and wakeboard that model is it hot [TS]

00:40:05   in here [TS]

00:40:06   closing out my list uh not a big fan of [TS]

00:40:10   either of the stupid episodes featuring [TS]

00:40:12   Harry Mudd who might like to think about [TS]

00:40:14   the deal of Star Trek O'Hara mode he he [TS]

00:40:19   wears a man blouse only recurring [TS]

00:40:20   character in the original Star Trek and [TS]

00:40:22   could God why [TS]

00:40:23   well so so much women has some things [TS]

00:40:26   that are good about it i think i like [TS]

00:40:28   the whole old lady's maid attractive by [TS]

00:40:32   my self confidence and by self [TS]

00:40:35   confidence in the end yes that's [TS]

00:40:36   interesting my life points out the the [TS]

00:40:38   only difference between the horribly [TS]

00:40:40   ugly version and the beautiful version [TS]

00:40:42   is that the their hair is better and [TS]

00:40:43   they have makeup it's like a mole they [TS]

00:40:45   stuck like a mold anything and and [TS]

00:40:48   there's a filter on the camera [TS]

00:40:49   yeah there's that same soft focus on [TS]

00:40:51   whatever the close-ups [TS]

00:40:52   yeah Jerry fishermen that the director [TS]

00:40:54   of photography of Star Trek always took [TS]

00:40:55   the women and put that super like [TS]

00:40:57   Vaseline covered lens on there all [TS]

00:41:01   barbara walters and i remember watching [TS]

00:41:03   moonlighting in the eighties and [TS]

00:41:04   thinking simple Shepherd looks like a [TS]

00:41:06   star trek it turns out it's the same [TS]

00:41:07   director of photography that's like his [TS]

00:41:09   thing is so super soft focus on other [TS]

00:41:12   ladies who ya with another future blurry [TS]

00:41:17   yes so I wanted to say the the second i [TS]

00:41:20   Mudd the second pyramid episode not very [TS]

00:41:23   good but I it makes me laugh [TS]

00:41:26   there are some funny bits the the many [TS]

00:41:27   wives that appear as predictable as it [TS]

00:41:29   is at the end is pretty amusing and the [TS]

00:41:31   android it's like a parody of star trek [TS]

00:41:34   episode in some ways where the android [TS]

00:41:36   many episodes are parodies and assets [TS]

00:41:38   the android logic in that I mean we did [TS]

00:41:40   ours are our game show episode okay when [TS]

00:41:43   did we do that last year that no I was [TS]

00:41:45   really where nobody said anything and [TS]

00:41:46   there's a whole segment in there that's [TS]

00:41:48   that was called Android i'm a star trek [TS]

00:41:51   android which is just it'sit's I mud [TS]

00:41:53   which is that I but you said it was true [TS]

00:41:55   and yet it is false ere our arrows are [TS]

00:41:58   and then smoke comes out of these years [TS]

00:41:59   because that's how you destroy an [TS]

00:42:01   android is confused him and make sense [TS]

00:42:03   also how you can destroy a computer it's [TS]

00:42:06   their Achilles here and again that's [TS]

00:42:08   that's another one of those things that [TS]

00:42:09   they go to that well quite a few times [TS]

00:42:11   over the course of the series which are [TS]

00:42:13   Harry Mudd is just this brilliant broad [TS]

00:42:15   I mean like you know I like the trouble [TS]

00:42:17   with tribbles but it's Cyrano Jones and [TS]

00:42:19   that it's like he [TS]

00:42:20   he's road well he's a really really [TS]

00:42:22   broad road right like way over the time [TS]

00:42:27   and then lastly I would be remiss not to [TS]

00:42:30   mention and I'm not sure whether to put [TS]

00:42:32   this as a favorite or least favorite but [TS]

00:42:35   the eternal struggle the the gene [TS]

00:42:39   roddenberry Hail Mary attempt to launch [TS]

00:42:41   another series at the end of season two [TS]

00:42:43   assignment earth another colon based on [TS]

00:42:46   time for work but no explanation no ! [TS]

00:42:49   sadly I think they have used up their [TS]

00:42:51   quota that was the trouble said that yes [TS]

00:42:53   had they thrown in ! at the end they [TS]

00:42:55   might well have launched that series but [TS]

00:42:57   yes Teri Garr apparently exceedingly [TS]

00:42:59   uncomfortable in her short skirt [TS]

00:43:01   yeah and a fantastic hat for Spock in [TS]

00:43:05   that one right right and it's just [TS]

00:43:08   they're so such pathos in an episode [TS]

00:43:12   that doesn't even really have the main [TS]

00:43:14   characters in dinner it's very similar [TS]

00:43:16   to what what the Brady Bunch showrunner [TS]

00:43:19   did at one point with a bunch of orphans [TS]

00:43:21   that showed up and they were trying to [TS]

00:43:22   launch a spin-off there and it's just as [TS]

00:43:24   feeble and depressing there does not [TS]

00:43:26   want have a magic cabinet also it does [TS]

00:43:28   have a magic at it does it move may be a [TS]

00:43:30   girl but maybe a cat it turns into a [TS]

00:43:33   girl and then doesn't and then yes turns [TS]

00:43:35   back from ago Robert Lansing's I I [TS]

00:43:37   wouldn't have minded a show with Robert [TS]

00:43:39   lansing and Terry car doing kind of [TS]

00:43:41   crazy adventures you know Robert [TS]

00:43:43   lanschool my nine-year-old daughter [TS]

00:43:45   actually said she wished it had become a [TS]

00:43:46   shell believe it or not it [TS]

00:43:48   it was an interesting idea and Robert [TS]

00:43:51   lansing you know he's idea for watch is [TS]

00:43:54   he on the equalizer he was really great [TS]

00:43:56   I'm i think the equalizer really has he [TS]

00:43:58   was like the control his control he was [TS]

00:44:01   like his the equalizers old spy boss who [TS]

00:44:03   would bring him back and Robinson great [TS]

00:44:05   great actor but you're right i'm on [TS]

00:44:08   earth is bizarre because it's a backdoor [TS]

00:44:09   pilot it's literally the last episode [TS]

00:44:12   it's it's pretty back door yet and they [TS]

00:44:14   and they say maybe this could be a show [TS]

00:44:16   NBC was like your show is not even that [TS]

00:44:19   good [TS]

00:44:20   apparently they were they were teetering [TS]

00:44:22   on the brink of cancellation and this [TS]

00:44:24   was this was jeans attempt to get [TS]

00:44:26   another show started [TS]

00:44:27   yeah it's like he's looking for work [TS]

00:44:28   before he gets fired because he knows [TS]

00:44:30   the end [TS]

00:44:31   this is hanging over his head he's got [TS]

00:44:33   bills to pay [TS]

00:44:34   they're not that many episodes of star [TS]

00:44:35   trek with recognizable guest stars who [TS]

00:44:37   were like went on to do other I mean [TS]

00:44:39   Terry guard Robert lansing are actually [TS]

00:44:41   two of the sterling examples and the [TS]

00:44:43   only other example that I can really [TS]

00:44:44   come up with this mariette hartley 2 I [TS]

00:44:46   mean that there aren't that many like [TS]

00:44:48   well-known actors know it's weird [TS]

00:44:51   because frequently I'll see a bit [TS]

00:44:53   character and I think that looks so [TS]

00:44:55   familiar and it's probably just one of [TS]

00:44:56   those guys that was that showed up on [TS]

00:44:58   every show in the nineteen sixties and [TS]

00:44:59   seventies Miri's friend wonderkid kind [TS]

00:45:02   of weird-looking boy that guy has that [TS]

00:45:05   was that face of the does the perfect [TS]

00:45:08   character actor face and he has been in [TS]

00:45:10   everything I remember him from Roxanne [TS]

00:45:12   he was yeah he was in that time I've [TS]

00:45:14   seen him in several other things as well [TS]

00:45:15   a bunch of mash actors are in Star Trek [TS]

00:45:17   at various points in bit parts and then [TS]

00:45:20   point to Clint Howard of course [TS]

00:45:21   Clint Howard is Baylock in Corbin [TS]

00:45:23   maneuver as a baby [TS]

00:45:25   oh yeah so that does it for my list I I [TS]

00:45:28   remiss if I didn't mention my nine year [TS]

00:45:30   old daughter's favorite which is the [TS]

00:45:32   naked time primarily because of fencing [TS]

00:45:35   shirtless Sulu [TS]

00:45:37   oh yeah except bit and she also likes [TS]

00:45:39   the creepy part of the beginning where [TS]

00:45:40   the the redshirt takes off his helmet to [TS]

00:45:44   scratches or takes up his glove to [TS]

00:45:45   better scratches nose and the liquid [TS]

00:45:48   sort of creeps onto his hand in a [TS]

00:45:50   precursor to a thousand sci-fi movies [TS]

00:45:52   sense so really yelling at the TV screen [TS]

00:45:55   why are you taking off your it's got [TS]

00:45:58   pitch it is it's just much he scratched [TS]

00:46:01   you know that the producers of the star [TS]

00:46:03   trek the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie love [TS]

00:46:05   that so much that they they built the [TS]

00:46:07   whole thing with Sulu having a sword [TS]

00:46:09   around the fact that he was crazy with [TS]

00:46:11   the sword in the negative time [TS]

00:46:14   ok Sulu can do something he has a sword [TS]

00:46:17   yeah he's not all the suit was very [TS]

00:46:19   competent having watched the corbomite [TS]

00:46:21   maneuver today where Mr Bailey is [TS]

00:46:23   basically a little river e most of the [TS]

00:46:25   time when the enterprise is about to be [TS]

00:46:27   destroyed and he'll be like shit Kirk [TS]

00:46:29   shouting at him like plata correspond of [TS]

00:46:31   course come on plot a course and then it [TS]

00:46:33   goes Sulu it was like booop two buttons [TS]

00:46:36   course plotted on like why do they even [TS]

00:46:38   have two chairs just let Sulu do it all [TS]

00:46:41   Sulu is actually far more competent than [TS]

00:46:42   most of the command staff roll [TS]

00:46:44   let Leslie competent and yes why he's [TS]

00:46:47   kept at the lower levels and to think he [TS]

00:46:49   started off as a bonus the ship would [TS]

00:46:51   blow up if it weren't for sulla tony do [TS]

00:46:53   you have a GF favorites + unfavorites [TS]

00:46:55   I've got a list arm see removing things [TS]

00:46:58   that were already mentioned probably my [TS]

00:47:02   i'm looking at kind of also the list in [TS]

00:47:05   in chronological order [TS]

00:47:07   i think my first favorite episode and [TS]

00:47:08   these are kind of episodes that kind of [TS]

00:47:10   stuck with me that I saw both is kind of [TS]

00:47:12   a kid and then when I rewatched them [TS]

00:47:15   recently and I I like them both times so [TS]

00:47:17   they kind of problem [TS]

00:47:18   ideally they worked on a couple levels [TS]

00:47:19   or you know where I'm not changed at all [TS]

00:47:22   in 20 years and I still enjoyed them but [TS]

00:47:24   my first one would be a balance of [TS]

00:47:26   terror [TS]

00:47:27   oh yeah that's on my list some of this [TS]

00:47:29   so the witches you're the first [TS]

00:47:33   appearance of the Romulans and its kind [TS]

00:47:34   of your your classic starship battle [TS]

00:47:38   it's our is a separate submarine all for [TS]

00:47:40   submarine yellow submarine warfare with [TS]

00:47:43   the the Romulan ship you know cloaking [TS]

00:47:46   Andy cloaking in the ghetto basically [TS]

00:47:48   kind of hunting the enterprise and you [TS]

00:47:50   know I think there's a lot of great [TS]

00:47:51   stuff in that would kind of be built off [TS]

00:47:53   of in further stuff um som some elements [TS]

00:47:56   of it don't work you know I mean one of [TS]

00:47:58   the big reveals was that you know the [TS]

00:48:00   Romulans look like the Vulcans and you [TS]

00:48:02   know what we'll find out more about that [TS]

00:48:03   later you get the racist crewman who was [TS]

00:48:06   like fuck you jerk you you you look like [TS]

00:48:09   them even though you showed them which [TS]

00:48:11   is why would you be motivated to do that [TS]

00:48:12   if you but anyway I hate you because you [TS]

00:48:14   have pointed ears right yeah all right [TS]

00:48:16   now dumb like a space and probably [TS]

00:48:19   encounter all kinds of weird looking [TS]

00:48:20   guys only bones gets to pull that stuff [TS]

00:48:23   yeah yeah you know i mean it's it's a [TS]

00:48:25   it's a little unfortunate that it is a [TS]

00:48:27   relatively early episode and there's not [TS]

00:48:29   really anything that kind of builds up [TS]

00:48:30   to that right like we don't it's it's [TS]

00:48:32   not like there's a prior references to [TS]

00:48:35   the Romulans is being really scary or [TS]

00:48:36   mysterious or anything like that but i [TS]

00:48:38   just-i the the submarine battle between [TS]

00:48:40   the the the Romulans and the enterprise [TS]

00:48:43   always sticks with one mark leonard who [TS]

00:48:45   went on to play xbox father comes box [TS]

00:48:47   father is that is the running commander [TS]

00:48:48   who is great [TS]

00:48:50   there's a great when the the second in [TS]

00:48:52   command of a century or whatever in on [TS]

00:48:55   the Romulan ship gets killed at one [TS]

00:48:56   point one of the [TS]

00:48:57   attacks you know in Star Trek fashion [TS]

00:49:00   it's like a beam trucks on his head died [TS]

00:49:02   but it's not a phone it's actually [TS]

00:49:04   really really he it's not like a [TS]

00:49:06   supernumerary who dies and nobody cares [TS]

00:49:09   he's just a redshirt kind of guy it's [TS]

00:49:10   like the mark letters characters like [TS]

00:49:12   really upset when that happens and you [TS]

00:49:14   you get this feeling like they had this [TS]

00:49:16   whole backstory which you don't get a [TS]

00:49:18   lot in in seems like that again I'll of [TS]

00:49:21   social structure to that's crazy [TS]

00:49:23   yeah it's wild and i love that the Isle [TS]

00:49:26   of the scene where they get all he says [TS]

00:49:27   collect all the garbage basically [TS]

00:49:29   including this insurance body and stick [TS]

00:49:32   it in a in the two torpedo tube and blow [TS]

00:49:35   it out like will pretend that we you [TS]

00:49:38   know maybe I'll fool them into thinking [TS]

00:49:39   that we've been blown up and they're [TS]

00:49:40   looking at debris and i love i love that [TS]

00:49:42   moment because he's basically you know [TS]

00:49:44   using his friends body as a ploy which [TS]

00:49:48   obviously must be painful to him but [TS]

00:49:49   he's going to do it because he's he's [TS]

00:49:51   trying to outwit Kirk and you get that [TS]

00:49:53   that that you know they have respect for [TS]

00:49:55   each other [TS]

00:49:56   it's like you know almost like a hunt [TS]

00:49:57   for red october kind of thing is that [TS]

00:49:59   sub battle two captains just so it's so [TS]

00:50:02   claustrophobic and and its really great [TS]

00:50:04   which I think kind of a mean it builds [TS]

00:50:07   for future kind of spaceship battles [TS]

00:50:09   right that there's going to be a [TS]

00:50:10   spaceship battles that are going to be [TS]

00:50:11   kind of tactical and not every part of [TS]

00:50:13   it is their limitation for special [TS]

00:50:15   effects right they don't have kind of [TS]

00:50:17   star wars are dog fighting yet they have [TS]

00:50:18   these kind of like you know tactical [TS]

00:50:20   data is it's a it's a battle of wits [TS]

00:50:22   between the two captains instead of just [TS]

00:50:24   being firepower right right that's a [TS]

00:50:27   great one [TS]

00:50:28   can you explain that the beam based [TS]

00:50:30   shipboard design incidentally I don't [TS]

00:50:32   recall seeing any beams aboard the the [TS]

00:50:35   Federation ships it is not on this is a [TS]

00:50:38   Romulan thing exclusively they got the [TS]

00:50:40   big domi top and so there you gotta have [TS]

00:50:42   been scepter Tina I think they build off [TS]

00:50:45   of that later i mean i think in and [TS]

00:50:47   next-gen you see a lot of you see the [TS]

00:50:49   Klingon ships and they've got be my all [TS]

00:50:51   kinds of Impractical player knitters and [TS]

00:50:53   really people should be able to like [TS]

00:50:54   walk through here and like that you know [TS]

00:50:56   you think people be hitting their head [TS]

00:50:58   on that all the time it's like nothing's [TS]

00:50:59   right corner to be fair and surgery to [TS]

00:51:01   cons half of cons people are crushed by [TS]

00:51:04   beams to so happens on Federation ships [TS]

00:51:06   to at least when they're hijacked by bad [TS]

00:51:08   guys quarters are [TS]

00:51:10   no our madness today and in the future [TS]

00:51:12   and in the balance of terror I like the [TS]

00:51:14   whole idea that they've never they [TS]

00:51:15   haven't seen each other they've never [TS]

00:51:17   seen the Romulan so it's kind of that [TS]

00:51:18   extra who is going to get revealed [TS]

00:51:21   yeah that's your cold nice cold war [TS]

00:51:23   thing to it's like you you hate them but [TS]

00:51:25   you don't really even know who they are [TS]

00:51:26   I like that aspect of a lot of the early [TS]

00:51:28   episodes though it's like they are [TS]

00:51:29   really sure what they're doing yet as a [TS]

00:51:32   show and so I think there's an early [TS]

00:51:35   episode with the Klingons where half of [TS]

00:51:36   them are calling them Klingons and half [TS]

00:51:38   climb Klingons yeah the Klingons and [TS]

00:51:41   then Nimoy i think is the only one who [TS]

00:51:43   was stubbornly insist on calling the [TS]

00:51:45   ship's instrument sensores until the end [TS]

00:51:47   everyone else has moved to sensor [TS]

00:51:49   readings at that point but yeah but in [TS]

00:51:51   those early apps it's just like nobody's [TS]

00:51:53   really quite sure what they're doing [TS]

00:51:55   they didn't have a pronunciation guide [TS]

00:51:56   what you know Spock was really shouting [TS]

00:51:58   at the beginning to like me in the [TS]

00:52:00   original pilot in the cage the menagerie [TS]

00:52:02   he doesn't want the shouting every time [TS]

00:52:04   he's scanning is shouting apparently and [TS]

00:52:06   he does that and even in the corbomite [TS]

00:52:08   maneuver when they went to series that [TS]

00:52:10   episode he doesn't want to show you know [TS]

00:52:11   20 meters you know everything since i [TS]

00:52:15   was reading clear he's doing all these [TS]

00:52:16   crazy shouting Spock Spock calm down [TS]

00:52:18   calm down we get it we get your right [TS]

00:52:21   you have you have the same source [TS]

00:52:23   he's worked with Kirk before he knows [TS]

00:52:25   what gets through ok balance of terror [TS]

00:52:27   that's a good one balance of terror the [TS]

00:52:29   squire of gothos is on my list [TS]

00:52:32   ultra-clean yeah I i don't i like to [TS]

00:52:35   Lane [TS]

00:52:36   I like you and next-gen and you know who [TS]

00:52:39   is there is only this area is equal yeah [TS]

00:52:41   you know XD i guess except that tree [TS]

00:52:44   lane can be defeated [TS]

00:52:45   it's amazing how many episodes of stuff [TS]

00:52:46   the original series are based on [TS]

00:52:49   somebody having ultimate power [TS]

00:52:51   there's a lot they roughly two-thirds of [TS]

00:52:53   the episode him for help either some [TS]

00:52:55   evolved race that through millions of [TS]

00:52:58   years have managed to to become [TS]

00:52:59   omnipotent or some singular force like [TS]

00:53:02   Charlie acts or sterling one-third of [TS]

00:53:05   them are someone who's can't handle it [TS]

00:53:07   someone who's immature [TS]

00:53:07   yes right those are the ones who have [TS]

00:53:09   not evolved once you just got beer I got [TS]

00:53:11   it by some other means but yeah I mean [TS]

00:53:13   virtually yeah two-thirds of the [TS]

00:53:14   episodes are basically wishing them into [TS]

00:53:17   the cornfield territory [TS]

00:53:20   well that it's that you know we we [TS]

00:53:22   venture out into the world into the [TS]

00:53:24   galaxy and and there will be creatures [TS]

00:53:26   more powerful businessman you know how [TS]

00:53:28   will we understand the minute in the the [TS]

00:53:31   you know which is interesting right it's [TS]

00:53:33   to say that would look these people are [TS]

00:53:35   in the future but they're still not [TS]

00:53:36   necessarily the most advanced race [TS]

00:53:37   that's out here and we need some [TS]

00:53:39   humility of course in the end of the of [TS]

00:53:41   a both squire of gothos and Charlie x [TS]

00:53:44   don't they end with mommy coming to pick [TS]

00:53:48   to take the spiral the squire of gothos [TS]

00:53:49   definitely does yeah Charlie x the [TS]

00:53:51   ending is kind of very sad i think it is [TS]

00:53:54   said charlie is a human that has left on [TS]

00:53:57   this this planet and for some reason and [TS]

00:54:00   these aliens raised him and given these [TS]

00:54:02   powers a ship crash I think rightly very [TS]

00:54:05   only survivor of a ship crash very [TS]

00:54:07   stranger in a strange land actually and [TS]

00:54:09   Australian these power so he can live [TS]

00:54:11   and so do humans find him and he can't [TS]

00:54:14   really he's a teenager and he has often [TS]

00:54:16   he has all these power so you can't [TS]

00:54:17   really control it he is he's swatting [TS]

00:54:19   human Rand and so everyone's like he get [TS]

00:54:21   rid of then the aliens appear at the end [TS]

00:54:23   and take it back right [TS]

00:54:25   he's like please don't make me go I [TS]

00:54:26   can't touch them they're so elegant and [TS]

00:54:28   like now you're you're bad so get out of [TS]

00:54:31   here [TS]

00:54:31   that one really is anthony it's [TS]

00:54:34   virtually identical the kid the kid I [TS]

00:54:35   think actually makes a mouth disappear [TS]

00:54:37   1.2 shah these are new done not darling [TS]

00:54:42   no ya charizard dude did it is pictured [TS]

00:54:48   weird song stress [TS]

00:54:50   uh yeah you know and that's the other [TS]

00:54:52   thing i love about this early episodes [TS]

00:54:54   they actually showed life aboard ship [TS]

00:54:56   which they laid out obviously quite a [TS]

00:54:58   lot on next-generation but in those [TS]

00:55:01   early episodes you've got a lot of [TS]

00:55:02   people walking down that the corridors [TS]

00:55:05   got who are having some downtime singing [TS]

00:55:08   with their weird instrument in the in [TS]

00:55:09   the bar and there's a ship's bargaining [TS]

00:55:11   with spot which you never really see [TS]

00:55:12   again and then you know as years went by [TS]

00:55:16   they kind of it kind of became the Kirk [TS]

00:55:19   bones and Spock show the first few [TS]

00:55:21   episodes of the first season I kept [TS]

00:55:23   thinking this is mad men in space [TS]

00:55:25   because there's casual sexism and [TS]

00:55:27   everyone's drinking [TS]

00:55:29   yeah just need to throw in some [TS]

00:55:31   advertising and you're done [TS]

00:55:33   but i like that element of it and i [TS]

00:55:35   think i think the show kind of lost a [TS]

00:55:36   little something when they they started [TS]

00:55:38   de-emphasizing that [TS]

00:55:39   yeah they like I said about the [TS]

00:55:42   corbomite maneuver you there [TS]

00:55:44   it's surprising how the first 20 minutes [TS]

00:55:46   so that episode there's a lot of just [TS]

00:55:49   sort of like detail about shipboard life [TS]

00:55:52   and conversation and and things like [TS]

00:55:55   that and it's not really about the plot [TS]

00:55:58   you may because they didn't have enough [TS]

00:56:00   but you get the sense that they're [TS]

00:56:02   trying to also kind of tell this story [TS]

00:56:04   that is you know the people on the ship [TS]

00:56:07   and merriment on this mission and they [TS]

00:56:09   have you know they want you to see what [TS]

00:56:10   life is like in the future for these [TS]

00:56:12   people which is kind of interesting that [TS]

00:56:15   they they felt they needed you know now [TS]

00:56:17   we take it for granted as well start [TS]

00:56:18   recommending spaceship but back then it [TS]

00:56:20   was like no no they're you know they're [TS]

00:56:21   it's it's a little like the military and [TS]

00:56:24   they've got their get ranks but they [TS]

00:56:26   also did the route them far away from [TS]

00:56:28   home and they have there are things that [TS]

00:56:30   they do when they're out there and they [TS]

00:56:31   really were trying to make an effort i [TS]

00:56:33   think to the audience that was really [TS]

00:56:35   not expecting a show like this to sort [TS]

00:56:37   of show here's what life is like on the [TS]

00:56:39   ship in the future which trail really [TS]

00:56:41   make him to do that later they didn't so [TS]

00:56:44   much anyways it would we were we were on [TS]

00:56:46   supplier of us from Tony but but no no [TS]

00:56:50   that's some no you idiot it's that he's [TS]

00:56:53   like trainers like you and and like [TS]

00:56:55   Charlie axis that same thing because at [TS]

00:56:57   the end the his he's revealed to be this [TS]

00:57:00   basically a kid of this an omnipotent [TS]

00:57:03   race and mommy and daddy come to take [TS]

00:57:05   him away man Danny they eat universe is [TS]

00:57:09   a dangerous place it is I next on my [TS]

00:57:12   list again kind of moving [TS]

00:57:13   chronologically except that the list [TS]

00:57:15   starts to jump as we go further past the [TS]

00:57:17   first and second season uh it's not [TS]

00:57:20   equally weighted the city on the edge of [TS]

00:57:22   forever [TS]

00:57:23   oh yeah classes Harlan Ellison yeah it's [TS]

00:57:26   considered the best episode i think by [TS]

00:57:29   consensus [TS]

00:57:30   yeah i mean i think i think it i like [TS]

00:57:33   that was one of a kind of first you know [TS]

00:57:34   time travel plots i think i saw in [TS]

00:57:37   only in science fiction way back when I [TS]

00:57:39   saw as a young child but but they're [TS]

00:57:41   still there's a lot to it just beyond [TS]

00:57:43   you know time travel and having to [TS]

00:57:44   preserve things and i also thought it [TS]

00:57:47   was interesting they do they travel back [TS]

00:57:49   in time but they don't just go to when [TS]

00:57:50   the show was shot I feel like that [TS]

00:57:52   happens you know later time travel it's [TS]

00:57:54   like we're conveniently gonna go so that [TS]

00:57:55   we could achieve today [TS]

00:57:57   yes the president to our present day 24 [TS]

00:57:59   for budgetary reasons paramount had a [TS]

00:58:01   depression-era New York set so it's [TS]

00:58:04   lying around [TS]

00:58:05   haha let's do that do you think they [TS]

00:58:07   also had a set like around with the the [TS]

00:58:09   spooky rock with a hole in the middle [TS]

00:58:10   just you know possibly have some people [TS]

00:58:13   jump through that I think that was on [TS]

00:58:14   the set of the price is right at one [TS]

00:58:16   thing huh haha is the failed Plinko [TS]

00:58:20   let's play guardian forever and there [TS]

00:58:23   was a little space man that walked up [TS]

00:58:25   and I know if you bet if you bid too [TS]

00:58:27   high to fall off the top of the rock and [TS]

00:58:29   land in 1942 and you know i mean they're [TS]

00:58:31   all kind of super established ropes down [TS]

00:58:33   but but even the idea that they have to [TS]

00:58:35   deal with the life or death of the woman [TS]

00:58:37   that McCoy accidentally saves and well [TS]

00:58:40   I'm the Kirk you know who we've seen as [TS]

00:58:42   being this kind of a ladies man putting [TS]

00:58:45   on his boots at various points is you [TS]

00:58:47   know with with if killer he with lots of [TS]

00:58:50   you know time sort of passes here where [TS]

00:58:52   we get the implication they spent time [TS]

00:58:54   there and he really falls in love with [TS]

00:58:57   Joan Collins again another person who [TS]

00:58:59   went on to be lots of other stuff as you [TS]

00:59:02   healer and and so you get that real [TS]

00:59:05   tragedy that when Spock says Jim for you [TS]

00:59:09   know for history to reassert itself for [TS]

00:59:12   the u.s. to win world war two either [TS]

00:59:15   Keeler must die and it's it's it's you [TS]

00:59:18   know it is this really sad thing that [TS]

00:59:20   the Kirk has to you know find out [TS]

00:59:24   whatever you know it's going to cause [TS]

00:59:26   her to be saved her to die in terms of [TS]

00:59:29   the bones and they have to catch bones [TS]

00:59:30   and stop him from from doing a good [TS]

00:59:32   thing it was bonuses bones doesn't [TS]

00:59:34   change history by being a crazy guy who [TS]

00:59:37   does something bad he actually does it [TS]

00:59:38   by being a decent human being who tries [TS]

00:59:40   to save somebody and she needs to die [TS]

00:59:42   even though she's good and is trying to [TS]

00:59:44   be a pacifist it leads to all these [TS]

00:59:47   horrible things I love that I love that [TS]

00:59:49   tragedy along with the [TS]

00:59:51   you know also the just the joy of Spock [TS]

00:59:53   wearing a Steve here's your hat of the [TS]

00:59:56   yes he has his little beanie that he [TS]

00:59:58   puts on is right [TS]

00:59:58   puts on is right [TS]

01:00:00   and he that's right he's a talker and [TS]

01:00:02   and he's got to stone knives and [TS]

01:00:04   bearskins that he's trying to use to [TS]

01:00:06   make his little thing for the tricorder [TS]

01:00:07   so he can check the memory bank that one [TS]

01:00:10   if i remember correctly no one rips that [TS]

01:00:12   hat off his head at any point [TS]

01:00:13   no but earlier he's got the cherry and [TS]

01:00:15   yeah pulling the rice picker he's tried [TS]

01:00:17   my friends obviously Chinese that's of [TS]

01:00:19   course his ears its project mechanical [TS]

01:00:22   device passenger notice the years [TS]

01:00:24   they're actually easy to explain [TS]

01:00:26   yeah exactly i'm trying to know yes and [TS]

01:00:29   and then he cocky cold-cocked him with [TS]

01:00:30   one punch you in the future all punches [TS]

01:00:33   will cause somebody that yes pass out of [TS]

01:00:35   course I just thought it was in the 60s [TS]

01:00:37   you punch a guy once they go down don't [TS]

01:00:39   say I used to punch a lot harder back [TS]

01:00:40   then [TS]

01:00:41   yeah lot of class jobs man or men anyway [TS]

01:00:43   this is why Spock puts on the beanie as [TS]

01:00:45   he can take that crap anymore so we just [TS]

01:00:48   put I gotta be me now i have a doctors [TS]

01:00:50   cap don't talk about my ears everywhere [TS]

01:00:52   ok just be fooled everyone don't worry [TS]

01:00:55   that's really the greenish tint of my [TS]

01:00:57   skin yes Spock is really quite pissed [TS]

01:00:59   off in that episode [TS]

01:01:01   he's like I can't believe I'm doing this [TS]

01:01:03   crap I got the I'm trying to do all this [TS]

01:01:05   stuff on a tricorder with the like i'll [TS]

01:01:07   need some platinum what do you mean you [TS]

01:01:09   can't get platinum come on [TS]

01:01:12   yeah I also like when they let DeForest [TS]

01:01:14   Kelley just really go off when she goes [TS]

01:01:19   nuts hear any screaming assassin and [TS]

01:01:21   he's all sweaty killer [TS]

01:01:22   ok this very moment he looks like third [TS]

01:01:25   season Kirk actually super sweaty [TS]

01:01:27   there's that this this and the one where [TS]

01:01:29   did they get old and he gets [TS]

01:01:30   particularly cantankerous oh yeah he is [TS]

01:01:34   he is very very funny and in the scenes [TS]

01:01:36   where he's kind of allowed to really [TS]

01:01:37   just go go wacky and this is a great [TS]

01:01:40   example of this such a such a great [TS]

01:01:43   bones of such a great character in [TS]

01:01:45   general I mean in the corbomite maneuver [TS]

01:01:46   which is his you know is that is I think [TS]

01:01:50   that's his first episode there's a great [TS]

01:01:52   moment where he says you know if this [TS]

01:01:54   keeps going on like this i'm gonna start [TS]

01:01:56   talking to myself where he's alone in [TS]

01:01:58   her home happened that's like I love [TS]

01:02:00   this guy this guy is great because he's [TS]

01:02:02   so grumpy and you know and and for the [TS]

01:02:04   sixties to the fact that there's this [TS]

01:02:06   character who's so adversarial to the [TS]

01:02:09   other characters and he's just always [TS]

01:02:10   complaining disagree [TS]

01:02:13   yeah it's so great idea what we do you [TS]

01:02:15   green-blooded Vulcan you know I never [TS]

01:02:18   trusted the transport yeah all right [TS]

01:02:20   bones are not helping the whole it's a [TS]

01:02:22   good tough love that he dishes out [TS]

01:02:24   though [TS]

01:02:25   no they they when they take him in the [TS]

01:02:26   court remember when they take him to go [TS]

01:02:28   over to Balak ship he's like stupid [TS]

01:02:30   gadget with its my atoms are gonna get [TS]

01:02:32   scheduling that's both get on the thing [TS]

01:02:35   okay get on the thing that's an order [TS]

01:02:39   use it all the time [TS]

01:02:41   fine what does often malfunction so that [TS]

01:02:44   really isn't only the only instance of [TS]

01:02:47   Star Trek doing time-travel competently [TS]

01:02:49   that there are a couple other time [TS]

01:02:51   travel episodes there's one where they [TS]

01:02:52   accidentally end up in again president [TS]

01:02:55   say see ya 1968 the slingshot effect [TS]

01:02:59   they sort of accidentally discovered the [TS]

01:03:00   slingshot effect and then one season [TS]

01:03:02   later suddenly it's just Derek grrrrrr [TS]

01:03:04   yeah yes yeah in that I guess the [TS]

01:03:06   operation colon earth through [TS]

01:03:08   programming assignment callin her final [TS]

01:03:10   corner if yes yes when they're just on a [TS]

01:03:13   routine time travel at observation but [TS]

01:03:16   shows epic existed the dangerous in [TS]

01:03:18   between of like time travel is now easy [TS]

01:03:20   and we can do it all the time [TS]

01:03:21   there's no rules yet right now they [TS]

01:03:24   don't know it's it's it's done well in [TS]

01:03:25   city on the edge of forever bones jumped [TS]

01:03:27   through the guardian of forever and it's [TS]

01:03:28   like oh crap [TS]

01:03:29   the enterprise is going uh ok i guess we [TS]

01:03:33   did you do something here right [TS]

01:03:34   and-and-and yeah it's really great i [TS]

01:03:37   mean i have the original i bought the [TS]

01:03:40   original Harlem awesome republished as [TS]

01:03:43   Original Screenplay and you know it's [TS]

01:03:44   different and he's because Harlan [TS]

01:03:46   Ellison is a incredibly cranky guy he's [TS]

01:03:49   all bent out of shape about the fact [TS]

01:03:50   that it turns out DC fontana did the [TS]

01:03:52   rewrite of it and which he didn't know [TS]

01:03:54   for 20 years reality what happened is [TS]

01:03:57   that he wrote a really great script that [TS]

01:03:59   didn't fit the characters of the format [TS]

01:04:01   and so Dorothy Fontana fixed it so that [TS]

01:04:05   it would make sense [TS]

01:04:06   DC Montana's Dorothea Dorothy yeah yes [TS]

01:04:09   did not know she is she's a woman and in [TS]

01:04:12   that era she that's why she was DC guys [TS]

01:04:14   herself as default and she you know it [TS]

01:04:18   was like a guy wanted a crewman was like [TS]

01:04:19   dealing drugs on the enterprise and [TS]

01:04:22   stuff like that like yeah we're not [TS]

01:04:23   gonna we're not going to do that I told [TS]

01:04:25   my [TS]

01:04:26   Harlan Ellison story know you have 1i [TS]

01:04:28   dumar sorry [TS]

01:04:30   and everybody's got one we share i went [TS]

01:04:32   to see a real game and talk at a thing [TS]

01:04:35   at MIT you know 10 or 15 years ago and [TS]

01:04:38   it was him [TS]

01:04:39   Harlan Ellison and peter david and i did [TS]

01:04:41   not know Harlan Ellison was and he [TS]

01:04:43   basically got up and apparently at that [TS]

01:04:46   time I think he was suing LOL some other [TS]

01:04:49   ISPs for that were you know effectively [TS]

01:04:53   assisting people in distributing you [TS]

01:04:56   know like plain text copy pirated copies [TS]

01:04:58   of his novels and he was very angry at [TS]

01:05:00   anything related to technology which [TS]

01:05:03   included students at MIT scientists and [TS]

01:05:07   electricity [TS]

01:05:09   he did a little bit like you know [TS]

01:05:11   talking about who he was and that you [TS]

01:05:13   know in reading for himself but he did a [TS]

01:05:14   lot of yelling at the audience and he [TS]

01:05:17   threw a bottle I think it was a plastic [TS]

01:05:19   bottle but he did definitely throw a [TS]

01:05:21   bottle into the audience in rage at one [TS]

01:05:23   point 0 and then I felt bad afterwards [TS]

01:05:26   because there was a huge long line to [TS]

01:05:29   get signatures from from neil gaiman [TS]

01:05:32   from Harlan Ellison and then there was [TS]

01:05:34   nobody who wanted to talk to Peter David [TS]

01:05:35   and by his babylon five scripts that you [TS]

01:05:37   are trying to sell [TS]

01:05:39   yeah but I got no game signature on you [TS]

01:05:42   know you know on a copy Sandman so that [TS]

01:05:44   was good [TS]

01:05:45   Harlan Ellison my introduction to him a [TS]

01:05:46   guy who throws bottles at people yeah [TS]

01:05:48   hehe is apparently such a jerk he's a [TS]

01:05:51   great writer he really is as a short [TS]

01:05:53   story writer i have his i have most of [TS]

01:05:56   his short story collections [TS]

01:05:57   he's a he's a fantastic writer he's just [TS]

01:06:00   a very questionable human being I think [TS]

01:06:03   there's a great documentary uh about hit [TS]

01:06:06   wright with sharp teeth [TS]

01:06:07   I think maybe yeah something like it's [TS]

01:06:09   just an unrepentant jerk yes he doesn't [TS]

01:06:12   care but and I guess we should say I [TS]

01:06:14   think he's I think he's very old and [TS]

01:06:17   infirm now and has retired from writing [TS]

01:06:19   and but Bobby this river but not from [TS]

01:06:21   being a horrible person but no but [TS]

01:06:23   sitting on the edge of forever you know [TS]

01:06:24   it is great and I think one of the [TS]

01:06:26   reasons its greatest because of his [TS]

01:06:27   writing even though he complained about [TS]

01:06:29   it being bastardized all that really [TS]

01:06:31   that is the issue of you know it does [TS]

01:06:33   need to feel like a star trek episode of [TS]

01:06:35   shit so Dorothy Fontana did some stuff [TS]

01:06:38   to it and I don't think [TS]

01:06:39   screwed up that badly it's still [TS]

01:06:41   probably the best Star Trek episode that [TS]

01:06:43   was made so for pete's sake [TS]

01:06:47   alright so da Tony you you get that one [TS]

01:06:49   good job [TS]

01:06:50   okay well playing past you I got one [TS]

01:06:54   more that was my eye so far i picked [TS]

01:06:57   three from season one [TS]

01:06:58   yeah yeah I'll jump to season two was [TS]

01:07:00   like that we want to say about it but [TS]

01:07:02   the trouble with tribbles does resonate [TS]

01:07:04   with me as a classic but the other why [TS]

01:07:07   it was ridiculous but but i love it i [TS]

01:07:09   even i like the Deep Space nine Episode [TS]

01:07:11   where they get out they put your back [TS]

01:07:13   into it yeah yeah they they stitch them [TS]

01:07:15   together I kind of liked that episode [TS]

01:07:16   better but um yeah you know the the [TS]

01:07:20   other blu-rays there's a whole disk [TS]

01:07:21   devoted to the trouble with tribbles [TS]

01:07:22   where they have the original episode [TS]

01:07:24   they have the animated series episode [TS]

01:07:26   that got the Deep Space nine Episode got [TS]

01:07:28   a commentary track they've got all this [TS]

01:07:30   stuff about i watched all of them so [TS]

01:07:32   yeah travels well not my favorite [TS]

01:07:34   episode contains my favorite moment [TS]

01:07:37   which is Kirk standing model mares while [TS]

01:07:41   a stagehand somewhere off-screen frozen [TS]

01:07:44   waterfalls and services trucks already [TS]

01:07:46   said they closed that door off his head [TS]

01:07:49   the whole first two and a half minutes [TS]

01:07:51   he's standing there talking so the [TS]

01:07:53   beauty of the Deep Space nine Episode is [TS]

01:07:54   that they that is that cisco and Dax and [TS]

01:07:57   that be the one doing it in the [TS]

01:07:58   compartment and they're scanning [TS]

01:07:59   troubles to find the bomb that's been [TS]

01:08:01   hidden and as they scan them when [TS]

01:08:03   they're done they check them behind just [TS]

01:08:05   over their shoulder which is what it's [TS]

01:08:07   hittin Kirk with it it's great so it's [TS]

01:08:10   like who who is why were those troubles [TS]

01:08:12   coming out made a clerk in the head [TS]

01:08:13   turns out it's our other characters who [TS]

01:08:16   are doing they don't have bombs on them [TS]

01:08:17   because they're yeah so there but it's [TS]

01:08:19   so great because somebody's like all [TS]

01:08:20   right I'm gonna throw all these pop all [TS]

01:08:22   the Shatner's head that is hilarious [TS]

01:08:24   because long after the bulk of the [TS]

01:08:26   tribbles have fallen out and gravity [TS]

01:08:28   would have necessarily push them out of [TS]

01:08:29   high school other ones are flying out of [TS]

01:08:31   the completely wrong vector the app [TS]

01:08:33   towards the side of his head he's got [TS]

01:08:35   kind of this sort of grin on his face [TS]

01:08:37   the whole time [TS]

01:08:38   yeah he's just trying to get through the [TS]

01:08:40   ski yeah well it gets the memories like [TS]

01:08:42   I got to fix first off you know get the [TS]

01:08:44   Klingons and to somebody close that door [TS]

01:08:47   right it's like why it's so I mean [TS]

01:08:50   because that's an episode that that is i [TS]

01:08:52   love it when [TS]

01:08:53   series that take themselves maybe too [TS]

01:08:56   seriously do an episode that is an [TS]

01:08:57   out-and-out comedy episode and the [TS]

01:09:01   trouble with tribbles you know is one of [TS]

01:09:03   the few Star Trek episodes that is is [TS]

01:09:07   just completely a comedy it's not [TS]

01:09:09   nothing no chuckle at the end moment it [TS]

01:09:12   is broad and ridiculous from the very [TS]

01:09:15   beginning and and it's funny throughout [TS]

01:09:18   and it's like the Darin Morgan episodes [TS]

01:09:22   of The X Files are like that where [TS]

01:09:23   whether a few episodes the x-files which [TS]

01:09:26   was very serious and David companies [TS]

01:09:27   over there are eight UFOs and model and [TS]

01:09:29   then there are these episodes were like [TS]

01:09:31   oh this is crazy [TS]

01:09:33   they're just they're just trying to four [TS]

01:09:35   laps here and that I'm a sucker for that [TS]

01:09:37   because i love i love i want to show [TS]

01:09:39   doesn't take itself so seriously that it [TS]

01:09:42   can't say we're just going to do a [TS]

01:09:43   completely just worried about the jokes [TS]

01:09:46   folks and the trouble with tribbles is [TS]

01:09:48   about the jokes that's all it's about [TS]

01:09:51   best I can figure they're bored pregnant [TS]

01:09:53   which is quite a time saver great great [TS]

01:09:56   episode [TS]

01:09:57   Tony wins yeah no I mean I would sit [TS]

01:10:02   city on the edge of forever in trouble [TS]

01:10:03   with tribbles are always what people [TS]

01:10:05   mentioned but you know there's a reason [TS]

01:10:06   they're funny ones funny and was really [TS]

01:10:09   tragic and dramatic and has great time [TS]

01:10:10   travel and I mean I is those if you're [TS]

01:10:14   going to pick to those are probably the [TS]

01:10:15   two right and if you're Tony some [TS]

01:10:19   upstart they are going to Tony they are [TS]

01:10:21   the two yeah there you go [TS]

01:10:22   oh honey I did not put any episodes from [TS]

01:10:26   season three on my ass do I mean there [TS]

01:10:29   are some that are ok brain spray and a [TS]

01:10:32   braid one spring I don't know I I always [TS]

01:10:35   thought the Tholian web was kind of [TS]

01:10:37   interesting [TS]

01:10:37   yeah that's stuck with me as a kid I [TS]

01:10:39   love that stuff with me as a kid also [TS]

01:10:41   with the web [TS]

01:10:42   um there-there mysterious those aliens [TS]

01:10:44   and they've got the weird spaceship and [TS]

01:10:45   Kirk is like a ghost and and I wasn't [TS]

01:10:48   sure if it totally made sense because [TS]

01:10:49   that the web looks really [TS]

01:10:51   two-dimensional when they're doing it [TS]

01:10:52   they're limited special effects and it's [TS]

01:10:54   like a top-to-bottom this webcam they [TS]

01:10:56   just go over it on but but I thought I [TS]

01:10:59   mean that have some neat ideas to do [TS]

01:11:00   especially considering they were [TS]

01:11:02   getting their budget destroyed at that [TS]

01:11:03   point so should i mentioned some of the [TS]

01:11:07   bad episodes [TS]

01:11:09   yes why don't you just want to open for [TS]

01:11:11   police and we just mentioned needing [TS]

01:11:13   three so sorry [TS]

01:11:15   yeah um in fact all kinds of my listener [TS]

01:11:19   from season three haha there are other [TS]

01:11:22   bad ones but I mean and I i should say [TS]

01:11:24   rewatching some of these there were [TS]

01:11:25   there were episodes i struggled to stay [TS]

01:11:27   with their bad ones throughout but yeah [TS]

01:11:29   and I can't even remember those [TS]

01:11:31   specifically but like there were some [TS]

01:11:33   season three but the good ones that say [TS]

01:11:36   view that are the lifesavers aren't [TS]

01:11:38   there and see some three [TS]

01:11:40   yeah i mean Spock's brain is I don't [TS]

01:11:44   know how much we need to say about it is [TS]

01:11:45   but it's painful rain everybody's breath [TS]

01:11:47   you know Spock's brain doesn't it's [TS]

01:11:50   stupid but it doesn't bother me like [TS]

01:11:52   some other episodes do because it's just [TS]

01:11:54   it's it's dumb [TS]

01:11:56   I love the moment where were McCoy says [TS]

01:11:58   a child could do it right like it's like [TS]

01:12:01   of course brain transplant that's easy [TS]

01:12:03   right that many fixes i love that moment [TS]

01:12:06   so i don't know i mean Spock's brain is [TS]

01:12:07   always talked about is the worst star [TS]

01:12:09   trek episode I'm not really i don't [TS]

01:12:11   think it is it's just think it's [TS]

01:12:13   ridiculous but at least entertaining and [TS]

01:12:16   bring his brain what his brain you know [TS]

01:12:17   and yes some of the worst acting yeah [TS]

01:12:19   but it is pretty bad at it from an [TS]

01:12:21   expected i guess i just think it's funny [TS]

01:12:23   i don't know i don't think it's a bitch [TS]

01:12:26   it [TS]

01:12:26   yeah yeah I mean it's week I i will say [TS]

01:12:30   when I was rewatching them and we got up [TS]

01:12:32   to that I we have been doing pretty [TS]

01:12:34   steady in a couple week and we got up to [TS]

01:12:36   that it's like I gonna be a little while [TS]

01:12:39   before I'm ready to watch that one let's [TS]

01:12:41   take a break in and watch some other [TS]

01:12:42   stuff for a little while but then we [TS]

01:12:44   thought we did it we got through it [TS]

01:12:46   arm the unfortunately I think not too [TS]

01:12:50   far after that the empath oh man always [TS]

01:12:54   sticks with me and there's there's some [TS]

01:12:56   interesting stuff in there but it [TS]

01:12:57   basically sticks with me is like the [TS]

01:12:59   episode that we want to make an episode [TS]

01:13:00   without actually building any sets [TS]

01:13:02   yeah and it could be kind of interesting [TS]

01:13:04   but it's not is it all takes place like [TS]

01:13:06   it looks like they're just filming on [TS]

01:13:08   like a black stage with occasional props [TS]

01:13:11   that they drop it but there's it there's [TS]

01:13:13   not an actual setting for it could have [TS]

01:13:14   been done in some kind of [TS]

01:13:15   atmospheric way but it just kind of [TS]

01:13:17   comes off as as cheap [TS]

01:13:19   unfortunately no i I'm so happy you [TS]

01:13:21   mention that because because when people [TS]

01:13:22   talk about the worst episodes and they [TS]

01:13:24   talk about Spock's brain I'm always [TS]

01:13:25   sitting there thinking the amp at the [TS]

01:13:28   empath is right it's like no sad Sam [TS]

01:13:29   it's like hey we have there's this [TS]

01:13:32   business lady who's a mime yeah and we [TS]

01:13:35   could do an episode with her [TS]

01:13:37   it's great oh yeah that'll be really [TS]

01:13:40   good god we don't have 15 minutes with [TS]

01:13:43   him it [TS]

01:13:43   no no don't do it oh yeah I've got to [TS]

01:13:46   tell you have a somewhat episode yet you [TS]

01:13:48   guys have just really spoiled it for me [TS]

01:13:49   oh so I'm gonna get the horn out i think [TS]

01:13:51   you're right about that [TS]

01:13:53   good luck Steve good luck with him it's [TS]

01:13:55   you know you're in season 3 it's hard [TS]

01:13:57   slamming that's just how it is that [TS]

01:13:59   there's some good episode things he is [TS]

01:14:01   only just short of 50 years old you guys [TS]

01:14:03   still need to the spoiler warning so [TS]

01:14:04   yeah yeah the impact she's you should [TS]

01:14:07   have warned people have copyrights track [TS]

01:14:09   down the spoiler orchard yeah the empath [TS]

01:14:11   she's an impact [TS]

01:14:12   oh but not like the android all because [TS]

01:14:15   she's a mime okay yeah that's a great [TS]

01:14:17   when I'm glad you mentioned Tony I will [TS]

01:14:21   also mention and for the world is hollow [TS]

01:14:24   and I have touched the sky [TS]

01:14:25   I just think that's way too long for an [TS]

01:14:27   episode i love i love you know in the in [TS]

01:14:30   the depths of especially next generation [TS]

01:14:32   where they had episodes that were just [TS]

01:14:33   like nouns you know the the power you [TS]

01:14:37   want like a little poetry like a short [TS]

01:14:39   story i really started to miss the fact [TS]

01:14:42   that they would take these quotes from [TS]

01:14:43   Shakespeare and make the episode titles [TS]

01:14:45   like for the weigh-in for the world is [TS]

01:14:47   hollow and I have touched the sky [TS]

01:14:48   I mean that's actually kind of cool [TS]

01:14:50   episode because like McCoy when you [TS]

01:14:52   started the McCoy thinks he has a [TS]

01:14:54   terminal illness and he's just given up [TS]

01:14:56   on life and he's going to go live in [TS]

01:14:57   this hollow asteroid with this Pete with [TS]

01:15:00   these people and you [TS]

01:15:02   he's really not a good doc it's such a [TS]

01:15:04   bizarre episode that I kind of love it [TS]

01:15:06   because it's so weird and it feels like [TS]

01:15:08   like you know they could have written [TS]

01:15:10   out McCoy in that episode that literally [TS]

01:15:13   could just like well good-bye McCoy and [TS]

01:15:14   then he's never on the show again you [TS]

01:15:16   know it's like i'm struck with a rare [TS]

01:15:18   incurable space illness if only i had [TS]

01:15:21   the skills to to dedicate my life to [TS]

01:15:23   cure again if I have some kind of healer [TS]

01:15:25   or doctor I could [TS]

01:15:27   I'm a doctor not a little today but no [TS]

01:15:30   right to the to the asteroid let's go [TS]

01:15:33   yeah yeah then everybody was it does [TS]

01:15:35   feel like my level that it's the same [TS]

01:15:37   account needs an episode from a bone [TS]

01:15:39   give him a girlfriend for one episode [TS]

01:15:41   ok alright it's like that episode [TS]

01:15:43   captain Curtis is with the native [TS]

01:15:45   american tribe except in a hollow after [TS]

01:15:48   all man [TS]

01:15:49   another good episode but yeah but I love [TS]

01:15:53   those but the titles because really next [TS]

01:15:55   generation especially they just the [TS]

01:15:56   titles got so boring for a while that I [TS]

01:15:59   really missed the the you know take five [TS]

01:16:03   or six words from a Shakespeare play and [TS]

01:16:05   make it in your title just you know I [TS]

01:16:08   want those long titles that were they [TS]

01:16:09   have to wrap and have it be on several [TS]

01:16:10   lines me that that's that's the long run [TS]

01:16:13   give me that no more noun titles just [TS]

01:16:15   crazy titles like though you're right it [TS]

01:16:18   is a little extreme it's like yeah for [TS]

01:16:20   the world is hollow and I've touched the [TS]

01:16:21   sky that's like a Harlan Ellison short [TS]

01:16:23   story is ridiculously long [TS]

01:16:26   yeah so I'm about halfway through [TS]

01:16:28   rewatching see the third season I think [TS]

01:16:31   the only episode that I'm kind of [TS]

01:16:32   looking forward to that I remember [TS]

01:16:35   strongly in the the last chunk there is [TS]

01:16:37   a let that be your battle your last [TS]

01:16:39   battlefield sticks with me as is like [TS]

01:16:41   somewhat of a classic episode if i'm [TS]

01:16:43   remembering correctly but I've not [TS]

01:16:44   actually watched it yet so yes well I do [TS]

01:16:48   like a good luck with that one [TS]

01:16:50   I don't have to go now to go have to to [TS]

01:16:53   watch that was a little heavy-handed a [TS]

01:16:55   little bit [TS]

01:16:56   isn't that you know the late season 3 [TS]

01:16:58   episode that sticks out for me and I [TS]

01:16:59   actually watched it today is all [TS]

01:17:02   yesterday's which I like it's it's it's [TS]

01:17:05   pretty good it's not great but it's [TS]

01:17:06   pretty good and when I say that season [TS]

01:17:08   three was bad the fact that next to last [TS]

01:17:10   episode was actually pretty good you [TS]

01:17:13   know there's some good stuff in there [TS]

01:17:15   that's that's the one with Mary and [TS]

01:17:16   hartley and they go the ice age and spot [TS]

01:17:18   gets all old old school Vulcan and and [TS]

01:17:23   cranky and Kirk is a witch in the Salem [TS]

01:17:26   witch trials for some reason but i like [TS]

01:17:29   that episode that's mr. 8oz he's the [TS]

01:17:31   world's meanest most passive aggressive [TS]

01:17:33   library and there's some good stuff in [TS]

01:17:35   there [TS]

01:17:36   alright is that it Tony [TS]

01:17:38   that's that's it for me alright so we [TS]

01:17:40   let you guys go first because Scott and [TS]

01:17:41   I presumably have lived here so long [TS]

01:17:43   our Fox route time that yeah exactly [TS]

01:17:45   that we let you go first astute say [TS]

01:17:47   things that we're going to say anyway [TS]

01:17:48   accession so I've just been checking on [TS]

01:17:51   me too [TS]

01:17:52   there's no need to buy find that highly [TS]

01:17:54   unlikely so with Stephen tonys picks [TS]

01:17:56   safely out of the way [TS]

01:17:57   surely there's nothing more for Scott [TS]

01:18:00   and I to say and that's why you can stay [TS]

01:18:03   tuned for our next episode where Scott [TS]

01:18:05   and I talked about Star Trek for another [TS]

01:18:07   hour until then this is jason l for [TS]

01:18:10   Scott McNulty Steve let's and Tony [TS]

01:18:11   sindelar thanks for listening to the [TS]

01:18:13   uncomfortable [TS]

01:18:21   podcasting the final frontier [TS]

01:18:26   these are the voyages of the podcasting [TS]

01:18:28   comfortable it's continuing mission to [TS]

01:18:30   explore strange new books to seek out [TS]

01:18:34   new films and new television shows to [TS]

01:18:37   coldly go where no podcast has gone [TS]

01:18:40   before [TS]

01:18:41   mm okay this podcast [TS]