The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable is sponsored by fairway [TS]

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00:00:06 ◼   ► the incomparable number 126 februari [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► this is jason smell your host and I am [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► convening this edition of the [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► incomparable to be a comic book club so [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► we're going to talk about comic book [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► club [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► we're not going to wear so we're gonna [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► talk about a comic and what I like to do [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► is see if we can pick something that's [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► available in a trade paperback so if [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► you're not somebody who haunts your [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► local comic shop every week that's okay [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► you can run out and get a get the trade [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► paperback and read it and it's just like [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► a book club except it's got pictures you [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► see that's the difference they make a [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► comic book and our selection for this [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► edition of comic book club is called [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► lock and key and joining me to talk [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► about locking key which is a series but [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► it's not an open-ended series 2 [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► closed-ended series and we're going to [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► talk primarily about the first volume [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► and then we'll progress from there a [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► little bit fire off the spoiler horn [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► when necessary [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► my usual compatriots on the comical [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► clever here Lisa Schmeisser thanks for [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► joining me [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► it's a pleasure to be here glad to have [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► you and Jason brightman is here with a [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► shiny new microphone to be on the [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► podcast [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► hi Jason yeah it's great to be here it's [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► great to have you and joining us a [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► special new addition to the comma club [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► its moist s2 jaan hai my SS hello Jason [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► it's lovely to take a break from hosting [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► two comics podcast to be on another [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► comics podcast you like the wolverine of [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► comics podcast member of every day [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► anyway locking key is by joe hill and [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► gabriel rodriguez and joe hill if you're [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► not aware i keep saying this and and I [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► he probably would roll his eyes at this [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► is he stephen king's kid if you haven't [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► heard of Stephen King what's wrong with [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► you but I think he's a really good [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► writer [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► I'll say that out front but i have to [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► say i think i think it's sort of [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► relevant that he stephen king's kid only [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► because his his writing is familiar it [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► reminds me of Stephen King in some ways [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► in and and this is definitely a horror [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► edged comic in some ways and also it's [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► set in in New England but proving that [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► he is independent of his father it is [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► largely set in the the town of Lovecraft [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► mass [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► the chusetts not name a few hundred [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► miles to the south of castle rock maze [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► huh that's right it's not made so it's [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► very different from his fault yeah i was [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► thinking about the similarities between [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► stephen king's work in Joe Hill's and I [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► was also thinking it takes a heck of a [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► lot of nerve to be a child of Stephen [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► King's and to go into basically the same [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► line of work in mind the same genre is [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► too especially when one of your parents [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► is is the 20th century's answer to [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► Charles Dickens you know until you [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► mentioned that I had no idea Joe Hill [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► was stephen king's kid you didn't know [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► oh no III didn't know which just shows [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► you how much Stephen King I've read [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► about this podcast get out this as best [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► you can [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► it's a it's a good perspective because [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► now that you mention that it makes sense [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► and i can recognize some certain things [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► in there there's a vibe there right [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► there the fact there's a tone so i read [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► i read actually 11 we're going to talk [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► about maybe a little bit later but I [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► read volume for of locking key first [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► which is completely normal [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► mostly because it was nominated for Hugo [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► warden and as a hugo voter i got the [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► packet with all the nominees including [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► walking key and I just thought it was [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► one of those I didn't realize it was so [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► self-contained that it really was a [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► story to be read from beginning to end [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► but i had no idea who Joe Hill was when [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► i read it and i was impressed enough at [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that point to say wow that was really [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► good i don't understand half of what I [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► read and I need to go back to the [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► beginning and start with vol.1 welcome [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► to Lovecraft available at your local [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► local comics store from ID'd idw [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► publishing and I've got my copy read my [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► hot little hands here a paper copy of it [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► I don't know where to begin this is the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► first volume is really interesting [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► because over over the future volumes are [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► set in this town but only one is is [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► about setting a mood and introducing us [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► to these characters and I was trying to [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► explain in two sentences what this story [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► is to my wife and the best I could I [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► could kind of come up with is it's about [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► these kids who are in California and [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► their father is murdered and they have [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► to move back to to this town in New [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► England not mean and the murderer comes [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► to get them because that's basically the [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► story of the [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► of welcome to Lovecraft I mean it at all [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► and there's no their magic keys by the [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► well I thought that one of the the most [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► chilling aspects of welcome to Lovecraft [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► in a book that is just chock-full them [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► is the realization that this brutal [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► murder isn't even really the point of [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► the story it's just an event meant to [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► set the whole story in motion and that [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► it only gets more horrific by the end [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► when you realize that there is some [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► malign force that's moving all of these [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► people into place like so many bubbles [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► chess pieces that's that set the murder [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► itself is plenty horrific and if I close [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► my eyes I can still see the comic-book [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► panel where the daughter kenzie is [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► holding boat is holding your hand over [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► bodis mouth and and cowering something [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► the axe murderer can't find them [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► just just the way that panel is shot and [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► composed and Incas is haunting it's [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► incredible art and it's horrifying to [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► look at the same time it's so effective [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► and it you're right in one way it's not [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► really representative of where the [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► series is going but it's so evocative [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► from the get-go because it's it's the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► thing that it sets the whole story in [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► motion but it's not you know this this [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► isn't a meditation on the impact of that [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► act of violence on these children I mean [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► it is sort of that but it's really about [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► putting these kids on a trajectory and [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► it almost reminded me of like a like a [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► Narnia kind of dark dark Narnia kind of [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► thing where there's magic and the kids [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► to get to that to get to this house [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► where where this magical you know [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► magical keys where they're located [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► there's this terrible tragedy like it's [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► the blips in the case of narnia and here [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► it's it's a murder right well one of my [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► favorite books as a kid was james and [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► the giant peach which it all begins with [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► James's parents being horribly [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► grotesquely killed in a animal attack [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► escaped what is it like a rhinoceros or [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► something escapes from thanks for a [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► lovely disney movie right right well [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► yeah about me but starts out really dark [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► right one and then it kinda and he goes [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► to his awful answer gets darker but they [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► reminded me that a little bit too or [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► there's this horrible moment that kicks [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► off the [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► a series of unfortunate events right [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► yeah it'sit's by the way the panel i'm [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► talking about is on page 45 for anybody [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► who's playing along at home has the [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► trade paperback and you see repeated [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► again on page 61 in a lot more detail [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► much much more recently so it's [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► definitely this is one of the things [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► about the series they do a great job of [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► repeating visual motifs over and over [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► again on without beating you over the [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► head with it which I really appreciate [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► it well I think the storytelling in [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► particular though the first chapter or [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► the first issue if you were doing it in [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► the floppy way the way it opens up with [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► just the the welcome mat in the door and [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► then the the two murderers at the door [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► with their you you see their weapons [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► sort of hidden here and this is just on [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► the the second page of the thing is [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► already you know no good is going to [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► happen but start setting this tone of of [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► hidden motives hidden objects the bodies [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► in the back of the truck really got me [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► there's a runaway refers shot where you [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► see that did that although they're being [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► you know sort of like posing as as [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► reasonable people there are dead bodies [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► in the in the back of the pickup she [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► says I like your pickup it's from my [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► uncle he doesn't mind in India it's [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► readily apparent why and it's just that [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► well it one of the themes that seems to [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► be embroidered over the series is that [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► that you don't know will kill you and [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► they lay that out in the first nine [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► pages of the above excuse me to the [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► first three pages of the book so Joe [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► hell does not mess around [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► now I'm know I was thinking about this [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► and like i said i think i think stephen [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► king is basically the 20th century [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► answer to charles dickens and that he's [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► written a lot of fiction and actually [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► created a lot of fictional troops that [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► have become part of pop culture people [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► always talk about problems and pig's [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► blood the same way and the shining can [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► certainly entered people's you know [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► lexicons even if some of that can be [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► attributed Stanley Kubrick and I thought [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► about how challenging it has to be if [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► you are a writer and you're trying to to [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► pull together this whole narrative [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► universe and you're like alright the [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► stuff that I'm sorting through my head [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► my imagination how much of that is [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► coming from and how much of that is [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► stuff that my dad was gassing [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► about the dinner table vinegar sink oh [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► you know how was your day uh wasn't that [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► I i wrote a scene about a bunch of [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► people living under a dome today [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► oh you know how do you how do you find [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► your own original voice in that and i [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► would love to know how Joe Hill is done [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► it because there's a lot of King [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► influences for example i think a lot of [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► naming a lot of the names he comes up [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► with his characters have a very Stephen [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► King feel to them because King has a [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► gift for giving his characters very [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► vivid and illustrative name's not that [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► that's continued here but at the same [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► time we don't you don't feel like he's [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► doing he's not doing an impression of [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► his father if I didn't know that he was [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► stephen king's kid I would say that [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► somebody was influenced by stephen king [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► right clearly yeah but he's not a [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► sentimental like he's always been a [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► really broad street of sentiment running [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► through Kings work almost mawkish this [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► and places and this book is a little i [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► wouldn't say nasty cuz that like I tend [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► to think of your game is being kind of [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► having a nice broad stroke of nastiness [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► to his comic book writing but he'll [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► seems to be a lot more clear-eyed a lot [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► less sentimental about people's emotions [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► and motives and the damage they do to [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► other people and i find it refreshing [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► yeah I think that kind of brewed brutal [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► honesty about the characters motivations [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► without the need to go back to the that [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► kingfish sentimentality for [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► sentimentality sake was one of the [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► things that I found most arresting about [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► it on on my first read-through of the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► first chair of the first volume of it [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► welcome to Lovecraft and it's one that i [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► reread even though i had the other for [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► sitting right there and I was ready to [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► plow right through them [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► I had to become come to grips that with [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► the fact that it was going to be just [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► this uncompromising and that's that's [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► what really hooked me in immediately men [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► and made it so compelling for me I mean [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► where they're dealing with issues of the [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► other mothers substance abuse and [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► post-traumatic stress disorder that that [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► has resulted from this thing in the way [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► that the kids are coping in different [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► ways how the daughters trying to figure [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► out not just who she is as a human being [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► but as an adolescent girl wanting to you [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► know start relationships with [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► with with with girls as well as with the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► guys romantically and trying to navigate [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► that on top of being the epicenter of [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► all of this really terrible stuff and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► then the little kid trying to be a [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► little kid and then the eldest brother [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► trying to find his place in the whole [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► thing and there isn't this there isn't [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► this periodic kumbaya moment where [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► everybody is [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► yeah you know just holding hands and and [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► sharing wore glasses of milk and graham [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► crackers just doesn't happen [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► yeah because you meet Zach at the end [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► and you're like oh crap oh no so so that [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► I mean that I think you're right there's [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► so much here that because you eat there [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► is this whole layer of it would plot [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► alone right [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► the kids parent their kid's father is [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► killed they they basically flee to the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► other side of the country to the to the [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► town where he grew up [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► the mother is a wreck that would be that [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► would be enough but the fact is that the [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► killer escapes is basically killing his [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► way across the country to get to them [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► meanwhile they're trying to adapt to [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► their new town so you've got all of the [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► interpersonal dynamics of being a kid in [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► a new town trying to trying to a plus [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► its where their father grew up so there [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► are some land mines about the families [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► there too and then oh yes the killer who [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► is being supervised by a supernatural [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► forest is going to come to the house [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► named and finish the job and also [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► there's a voice in the bottom of the [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► well saying bring me things right and [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► the back in theirs right introduced at [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► the end of the first chapter is that [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► door that you walk through and you die [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► yeah well that's a great moment where [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► that that's our introduction to the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► magic keys is that there's there's a [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► gateway that sets your astral self free [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► but by all accounts what happens is [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► basically your body collapses in the [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► heat and it's like you died except that [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► your ghost and you get to go around and [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► see what's going on but it freaks out [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► the people who find your dead body right [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► mhm uh that with yeah yeah i mean which [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► is really cool and that's that's that [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► there there's our fantasy element I mean [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► and there that's definitely here but [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► it's interesting that it's playing with [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► all these other things like the kids the [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► kids story of [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► fleeing after a traumatic event and [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► trying to adapt to a town that would be [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► a story that would be good story on its [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► own about effectively going from having [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► two parents to know parents as their mom [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► for all intents and purposes is checked [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► out yeah she's a drunk and basically yes [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► i would argue she's big she's turned to [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► the bottle for understandable reasons [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► but the net result is that she can [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► therefore she's she's she's not able to [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► process [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► no she's not able to parent right now [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► and so these poor kids have gone from to [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► parents to know parents have been thrust [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► 3,000 miles across country and like you [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► said that alone would actually make a [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► really good comic comic but then you [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► throw in escapes spree killer and in [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► some certain supernatural elements and [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► that the backstory of living in Dad's [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► old house and the hints of the mysteries [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► of them for example it's obvious and [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► telling that they do the tempest is a [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► senior play and and there are clues to [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► future books in that shot of of the [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► tempest and you're like a you know any [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► taxes brought up the dad there's a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► there's a shot of the dad in the senior [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► play and it's the gym mr. i wanted to [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► talk about the dad a little bit because [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► what one of the things that fascinates [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► me about the series is that the dad is a [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► pivotal figure and he's dead [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► very very quickly right here [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► oh yeah quite rapidly he is dead and yet [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► his shadow hangs over everything because [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► they end up in the town we see him as a [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► kid in the in the high school play of [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► the tempest and and over the course of [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► time you know what the history of this [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► house and the history of this town are [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► matters a huge amount of the story but [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► it is kind of fascinating a narrative [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► trick that you know we know he's going [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► to be important at the very beginning [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► and he's immediately killed and that [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► doesn't make him any less important it [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► makes them kind of vitally important it [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► makes it more mystery to unravel yeah so [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► toward the end of of this volume there [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► is a great dialogue that i have come to [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► appreciate more and more as I've read [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► more volumes of the series but it goes [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► for this whole how the whole first book [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► is designed howhow it's uh plotted which [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► is 11 of the sinister character shall we [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► say says you can't understand because [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► you're reading the last chapter of [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► something without having read the first [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► chapter [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► you're a little you're a little guy bode [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► kids always think they're coming into a [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► story at the beginning when usually [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► they're coming in at the end and [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► definitely you know there are two ways [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► to read this story we we're reading it [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► is the beginning of locking key this is [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► this is going to be a six-part series [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► that tells a whole big story and so for [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► us it's the beginning but it's very [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► clear as you're reading it that there's [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► this whole undercurrent the story of the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► kids coming to the town is just [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► beginning but they are inheriting all of [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► this baggage that comes with their their [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► family's history and this house and the [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► where the magic keys came from and all [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► of this stuff and and that really adds a [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► wonderful i think layer of foreboding of [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► you know god what are they getting [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► themselves into their fleeing this [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► horrible event into the arms of MOR [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► horribleness said the I i love that line [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► too and there's Pat I've only read the [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► first volume and so there's there's [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► clear kind of foreshadowing that the [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► father was involved in in some of this [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► stuff before when he was a kid and so [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► are we starting deal with its a sins of [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► the father sort of story as it plays out [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► which is it is tough because you know [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► the father is is killed at the beginning [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and so you feel really really bad and [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► then as time goes on you're like what [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► was he involved with this is not [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► spoiling anything to say that that shot [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► of everybody in that the photograph of [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► every one of the tempest you learn over [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► the next few volumes why it's so [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► important to travel in there and what [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► happens to everybody in it so it talks [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► about how the fact that no one [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► generation is insulated from another I'm [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► getting chills just talking about this [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► stuff [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► I'm it literal Jill's well it is [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► refreshing in in an industry with comics [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► especially where how shall I put this [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► delicately writers tend to make stuff up [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► you get the sense sometimes they have no [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► idea what they're doing and they're [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► making it up as they go along and with [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► lock and key [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► the more I've read it the more I know [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► that they this is a story that was [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► planned out to the detail and its really [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► refreshing to get that sense that you're [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► in you know you're in the hands of [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► somebody who is really in complete [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► control [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► all of where the story is going because [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► there have been lots even though it's [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► not it's not over yet and who knows what [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► the ending will be exactly but having [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► read a lot of a lot of this story now [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► five-sixths of this story [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► I don't feel at any point that I've [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► gotten the sense that there's been a [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► trick played on me that in order to [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► figure out how the story goes the story [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► is a you know the story of solid and and [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► reading back to the first volume only [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► reinforces it after i read more of it [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► which I really love because that doesn't [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► you know you might see that in a 6 or 12 [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► issue miniseries but this is something [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► that's gonna last what is it going to be [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► 37 issues and it's going to be it i [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► think solid all the way through [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► yeah I'm very often now it's it's it's [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► it's an incredibly well thought-out [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► series and i think one of the things I [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► like about it is that the art style that [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► gabriel rodriguez has there's something [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► almost playful about the way he he does [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► a good job with the menace and all that [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► too but but the lines remind you a lot [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► of the the kind of playful almost anime [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► aesthetic that began to hit comics in [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the late nineties early aughts the last [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► time comic book stores decided the girls [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► were paying attention to and then you [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► have these books that were drawn with [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► you know girls bouncing ponytails and [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► people with big eyes and and bright [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► shiny smiles and there's there's kind of [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► an element of that in here to which we [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► can get [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► yeah and it underscores the horror so [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► nicely because it points out that you [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► know all these surface appearances are [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► are showing you that things are are cute [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► and no class and clean and and shiny and [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► actually they're not everything is just [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► kind of rotting from the inside out or [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► being dragged down into pits of an [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► Aimable evil bye-bye forces people don't [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► understand but hey there hair looks [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► great what's happening [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► I have to get a lot of credit to give [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► Rodriguez for um for being so consistent [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► with a with the characters now some part [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► of this is over over all of these issues [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► it is just him doing the art which is [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► great because II a lot of series you [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► lose track of who's who [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► because they don't look the same anymore [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► and not only not only is it consistent [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► but he's drawn a [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► these characters that they are instantly [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► recognizable I don't know how even know [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► how to describe it other than to say [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► that everybody looks like they look they [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► don't look like who which one is that [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► you know which guy is that which girl is [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► yeah you know you you know from the [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► shape of their face from that did the [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► big you know who's got the big chin it's [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► not even like what they're wearing from [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► their eyes or who bites your lip all the [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► time exactly or or who hunches in a [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► specific way and who sits easy and open [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► and and he actually does a really great [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► job in just a few lines conveying a lot [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► this is a guy who the artist is [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► obviously studied body language a lot [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► because just the way people lean into [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► each other or lean into or out of a [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► frame is incredibly telling the body [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► language that he uses for LA through the [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► course of the series is heartbreaking in [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► a way I feel terrible for that to her [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► and Elly Elly is a character went to [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► school with the kid's father and who's [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► now gives the track coach of the school [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► right yeah and we we get such a limited [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► peek into her in the first volume the [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► first few volumes actually and we don't [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► know where this way without spoiling [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► anything this this on Rails kind of [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► complacency where it's you know you you [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► wonder what could be compelling this [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► behavior what what could be behind all [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► of this fear that's driven her into [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► almost Stepford ism yeah there's an [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► answer [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► there's an answer and it's horrifying [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► there's an answer that is absolutely [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► horrifying [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► yeah that describes so much of the [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► series one of the great things about le [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► that she's the mother of Rufus who I [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► think is my favorite character I'm Jason [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► Jason be i should say when you get to [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► vol.2 and beyond the only home talking [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► about but it's one of those characters [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► where you have to go back and and just [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► kind of genuflect at the altar Joe Hill [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► for how careful he's planned out the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► character and [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► his specific personality traits and [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► everything he says because it is encoded [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► in like two or three layers of meaning [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► so Jason you we've got it's great that [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► we've got you here who's only read [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► volume 1 and at some point we'll we'll [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► let you will put you in the chamber of [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► silence and and maybe discuss what [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► happens after but i'm interested in your [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► take having you know if you've got more [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► to say about about what you think and [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► where you think this is going having [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► only read volume 1 because it's hard for [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► me to think about this story especially [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► since i started with vol.4 about what my [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► take on it would have been because it [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► does it does progress and change and [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► shift gears over over the course of of [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► telling this story so you know what's [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► your take being a babe in the woods [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► whose only read only one and i'm super [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► excited listening to you guys you know [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► talk about where it's going in the fact [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► that it it it is satisfying because like [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► we've talked about on previous podcast [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► there's a lot of stories that you feel [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► halfway through the writer sort of lost [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► their way [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► yeah and its net not a satisfying ending [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► so I'm more anxious to read the rest of [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► them now so I found the the first [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► chapter a little difficult on the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► artwork side at getting in because the [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► the first you know several scenes are it [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► cuts between the present in the past the [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► farmhouse and the city and you're just [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► meeting the characters and so I had a [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► very kind of closely read it and once or [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► twice go back to be like oh is this [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► character that one which i found it a [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► little bit difficult to get into the [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► story that they quickly went away by the [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► end of the first issue I was thinking [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► about that when you guys were talking [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► about the artwork because I completely [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► agree as it went on the the artwork in [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► the simplicity of it in the sort of vary [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► somewhat manga inspired style that was a [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► nice contrast to the absolute horror of [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► what was going on and made the horse [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► stuff seemed more horrific yes because [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► of its its cuteness [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► I said I got a lot out of the first [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► issue a lot of kind of foreboding you [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► know bad things happened in the first [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► issue and then they went away and they [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► got to Massachusetts you're like oh ok [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► now now it's gonna be a story about them [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► getting their lives back together then [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► right and then they'd be the you know [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► evil sort of follows them and you didn't [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► you see that the spirit in the the well [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► is the same one that's been manipulating [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► the the guy who killed their father and [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► he's coming to get them and so there was [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► you see that the impending doom of that [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► coming as well as the hints particularly [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► not a phrase that you mentioned Jason of [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► kids always think they're coming in at [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► the beginning of a story [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► there's just so much foreboding that I [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► think that's why i hadn't picked up the [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► second issue yet in the sense that like [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► you you feel like there's a car wreck [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► coming and and it's hard to kind of want [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► to pick up the next book to to see the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► rack [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► yeah you know yes I I see what you're [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► saying that it definitely there is a [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► sense that this is going to be things [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► are going to get worse right otherwise [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► there wouldn't be a story there's going [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► to be more here [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► what surprised me without giving too [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► much away is throughout the series the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► ability for for each not just even each [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► volume but each issue to shift gears and [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► tell stories almost it's almost Twilight [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► Zone like we're while advancing his [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► general plot or painting in some of the [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► background to to explain what's going to [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► be happening later on he can take these [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► detours Joe hell does where where [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► there's an issue that is aa little bit [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► off format or even if its advancing the [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► story it's it's it's weirdly [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► self-contained it's like this is the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► issue where again not to give too much [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► away [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► this is the issue where they find the [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► key that lets them become animals right [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► that's like an issue and it's great and [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► it does advance the story but it's great [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► on its own and there's a there's the the [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► issue that is the story is advancing but [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► there's the issue with them [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► the that the teacher the the black [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► teacher who smokes a pipe and it's like [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► you're flashing but when he was young [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► and but he knew the kids and and so he [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► he knows the bad the identity of the bad [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► person looking right and and there that [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► is advancing the plot but it's also got [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► this beautiful internal story almost it [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► reminded me of watchmen wear while [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► advancing the story there's that there's [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► some really artful self contained in an [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► issue like I feel like by the end I it [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► reference what happens at the very [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► beginning and it's beautiful and it's [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► sad and it's and and and there's a lot [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► of that there's an issue with like big [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► monsters fighting each other that's just [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► like that's the issue so it that's [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► that's the thing that surprised me about [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► it is all the overarching story is rough [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► and you know it is like evil trying to [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► defeat the forces of good basically but [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► inside it [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► he doesn't you know it's not a [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► relentless drive to that I guess is what [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► I'm saying there are some really [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► interesting things that are not quite [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► diversions from the story because they [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► all I think matter but you don't feel [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► like you're just on this train track [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► where it's just going to be every single [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► issue is just boom boom boom hitting you [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► with the latest painful plot development [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► which supported that I i really enjoyed [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► that that that in volume to volume 3 I [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► didn't feel like I was just getting [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► hammered with the latest terrible thing [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► that the you know that the forces of [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► evil were we're trying to achieve nice [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► and i did like the the last panel of the [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► the first story arc where you see all of [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► the keys and yeah you sort of start [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► looking at them guessing i wonder what [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► that cadence I wonder what that kid [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► oh yeah and some of them are a little [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► more self evident than others but you [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► still a boy [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► there's a lot of kids going all the way [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► down ya know that the progression of how [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► they introduced us to these keys and [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► what they do is really interesting to [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► where Jason is saying that there are [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► some keys that we get an entire issue [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► dedicated to what they do some of them [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► that we see and then they don't actually [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► find the key for some time [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► others that are talked about and then [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► suddenly discovered and then [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► there's a run i can't remember which [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► volume it's in where we at one of my [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► favorite bits of it i'll find it at some [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► point uh during the discussion where [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► they go through the month februari and [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► we have discovered a bunch of different [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► keys and we don't get a whole lot of [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► information other than look here the [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► kids covered in you know monsters [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► fighting them and one of them's got [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► wings now and you get you get these [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► little vignettes with little other [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► explanation just because you he he's got [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► the economy of story down to where he [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► doesn't have to give you the same kind [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► of look they've discovered a new key [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► like to liken it to anime you know [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► here's another dragon ball let's spend [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► eight hours on this you know because you [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► just you don't you don't have to do that [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► every time but there are some of them [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► that it really it really does matter to [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► know not just what they do but why they [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► were created s williams in the chatroom [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► says that's in look for in volume for i [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► love us William and and that echoes to [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► what i was saying earlier too thanks [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► because i forgot mad at a that issue but [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► that's another thing that's it's you [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► know it's not it's off format got enough [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► that the end of volume 3 is deeply [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► awfully disturbing [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► um there's a lot of disturbing to go to [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► go along but but then then they mix it [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► up right [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► you know it's it's I'll i really like it [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► I mean I i have to say just I've been [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► very impressed with all of it and yet i [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► read vol.5 today and you know afterward [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► I felt kind of antsy and kind of [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► disturbed like i need to i need to to [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► calm down except you know and and not [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► think about for a while you start going [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► to do a podcast about later so right but [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► but there it is affecting and I think [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► it's a good I think a good way I think [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► it's powerful but it's it's you know it [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► can be tough stuff it's it's kinda [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► unflinching this is not i have no great [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► confidence that everybody is going to [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► everything is going to end up ok at the [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► end right number [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► none known for its that impending doom [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► yeah if he follows in his dad's [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► footsteps there's always going to be a [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► sacrifice because that's that's been a [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► theme and in in stephen king's work is [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► is that sacrifice is always required to [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► lay down evil and even then it's usually [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► temporary and i would not be surprised [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► if joe hill if that resonates with him [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► since from the three volumes I've read [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► so far one of the things that seems to [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► come up as if your glory and honor and [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► privilege is a horrible price to be paid [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► for it later and it seems to me that the [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► balance is probably going to come due by [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► the end of the book [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah there will be an ending that [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► I'm sure it's really satisfying on a [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► storyteller level and I i think it [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► applies a little bit heartbreaking an [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► emotional level but i'm not sure happy [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► will ever be like it to it probably yeah [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► probably not [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► fairway solitaire by big fish is a witty [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► and addictive golf theme card game on [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► iOS it offers players a ton of fresh [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► content over 70 unique courses with over [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► 350 different solitary puzzles and new [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► challenges every single day adding to [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► the challenge of the puzzles is a [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► mischievous gopher known as McDivitt his [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► goal is to fight you every step of the [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► way to avenge his ancestor brave tooth [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► and what you're thinking solitaries lame [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► Golf is boring and you might be right [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► but this game is the real thing very [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► salt air was the winner of the IG and [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► people's choice award for the best [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► mobile card game into 2012 is that a big [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► deal [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► the fairway solitaire team is not sure [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► themselves but they're pretty stoked [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► about this achievement anyway more than [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► 40,000 people have given it a five star [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► rating on iTunes ken Levine of bioshock [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► tweeted I finished very solitary on the [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► ipad there i'm not ashamed to say it and [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► Penny Arcade says this game is awesome [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► you can google it if you think they're [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► making this stuff up fairy salt air is [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► available now in the App Store for [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► iPhone iPod touch and iPad join more [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► than 1 million people who are actively [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► playing fairway solitaire for a limited [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► time only get a free code for the full [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► version on the iphone and ipod visit [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► giveaway dot fairway solitaire dot-com [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► to get your free code giveaway at [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► fairway solitaire com [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► there's this brief stylistic detour [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► where they actually pay tribute to Bill [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► Watterson in this comic of all comics [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► they they they do a little a little bit [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► in tribute to Bill Watterson volume for [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► that whereas you would not expect a a [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► direct calvin and hobbes art-style [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► dommage to go over with this subject [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► matter it it kind of worked perfectly [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► well Calvin and Hobbes and her friends [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► are kind of a horror strip so it is it [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► is it away when you think about it boy [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► is going to get mauled by that tiger at [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► any moment [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► no it's that boy is going to be forced [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► to take a lot of medication you know [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► special school at any moment that's [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► pretty much the better because the [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► Tigers real no it's it's it's actually [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► it's a great it's a great strip that [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► emphasizes the imagine supporters of [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► childhood and how freaking scary growing [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► up is and since one of the themes [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► through locking key is also that growing [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► up even when you aren't dealing with [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► homicidal maniacs and the fiendish fake [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► fingers of the evil undead that the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► growing up is really tough [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► um it's kind of in the same job it's [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► kind of in the same sympathetic vein so [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► it makes a lot of sense to me i can't [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► wait to read it but i liked about the [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► series was what i expected before i read [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► it to that from the first couple of [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► pages to the end completely changed and [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► continue to change in the way you guys [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► are talking about it now it seems like [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► there's all these different levels [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► beyond the foreboding doom [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► yes in addition to before in addition [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► yeah but in the fact they do the side [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► trips and things like that you know the [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► the comic series it's somewhat reminding [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► me of is the Sandman perhaps not as [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► pretentiously but the fact that there's [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► there's you know in the Sandman they set [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► up this mythology and in here locking [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► key it's it's sort of the keys [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► yeah that that provide a framework but [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► there's it's more than that and then the [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► that's just a platform for telling these [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► other stories you know i still only read [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► like the first 12 issues of Sandman I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► know that's sacrilege [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► I know it's not at all i'm saying is [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► jason is a fantastic opportunity because [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► we could totally do a reread and I'd [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► love to get your opinion and there's a [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► new Sandman story coming out in the next [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► couple of months [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► well we should we should get them on the [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► calendar because then I can be your test [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► case like Jason is our test case of what [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► if you've only read one volume of lock [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► and key i will be your new reader of [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► Sandman i love Neil Gaiman to I really [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► have liked his novels so I should [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► probably read the thing that made him [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► famous right probably you shovel you [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► should and fruit for those who have been [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► in Sandman withdrawal for a long while [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► this is actually a really great antidote [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► to that sickness i I'm gonna be [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► sacrilegious and it into this is where [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► the comic the comics community comes [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► after the torches and i'll actually like [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► this better than Sandman um but I think [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► Jason needs to reach you for weeks i [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► think that maybe people clutching their [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► pearls and live to she had no taste but [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► there's a lot of reasons for that and [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► I'd be happy to either expand them on [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► twitter or in private correspondence or [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► something but i think there are like i [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► said i think game is a brilliant writer [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► and I like that he does the same thing [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► Elmore does where they blindly [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► re-appropriate and mix up elements from [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► history and literature and there's kind [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► of that hey that guy moment when you [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► realize that they're dealing with you [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► know ancient mythology and it's casual [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► incorporate into modern life but I think [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► there's a streak of nastiness and gaming [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► score that that I find kind of [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► off-putting so and although again I [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► stand by my assessment that Joe Hill's [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► not sentimental i think that he has a [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► lot of compassion for the for the [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► weakness of the human condition and I [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► just empathize that a lot better than I [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► do with with the game in that approach [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► you know i can actually see that is the [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► the there's a lot more heart in lock and [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► key where the Sandman is good [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► it always stays it's somewhat of an [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► intellectual layer even when it has [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► pretty compelling characters you know I [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► would strike strikes me about it and [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► again I need to read more Sandman but [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► having read a little bit of it is that [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► it struck me as being very kind of [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► fantastical and removed and got this [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► dark Kenneth kind of world of well it's [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► very for voting and all of that in the [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► butt lock and key you know is and this [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► goes to again [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► chill is a really good writer but [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► thinking of him as as also in that in [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► the Stephen King family [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► stylistically not just literally stephen [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► king and and lucky is like this too [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► it's set in a in a real world that is [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► then thats got this monday anity to it [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and then it's got this layer of kind of [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► horror on top of it or weirdness and end [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and it doesn't feel like a magical world [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► even though there's magic in it whereas [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► the the Sandman that I've read anyway [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► it feels like a you know magical [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► fairytale world in its like you're [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► almost like you're coming from a [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► complete completely opposite direction [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► to get to your story from the two of [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► them this is like our world with magic [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► in it and the Sandman always seem to be [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► like a fairytale world yeah yeah which [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► is not necessarily bad or good just [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► it's because the Sandman was told from [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► that point of view right the main [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► characters are the otherworldly [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► characters writer the main characters [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► are us are these kids yeah well these [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► these kids having this at adventure [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► Lisa your husband is an a's fan and [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► those zones neighs hat to do ever did [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► you have issues with the fact that one [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► of our main characters whereas days had [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► all the time I like I don't like the [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► fact that it was said in a part of [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► northern california that's not you know [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► wall-to-wall millionaires or pixar [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► employees or whatever to valley is where [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► they started [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► yeah why I thought it was a i thought [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► was a north lisa Noah oh I think I [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► thought it was like it was it was better [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► was it like up in like chico or similar [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► but anyway yeah it's not your usual [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► Northern California several northern [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► california and i just got back from [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► spending two days of in door county so [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► you know I drove through a lot of that [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► area too [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► it's nice to see a depiction of [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► California that's not either [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► stereotypical Southern California [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► stereotypical san francisco bay area [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► I don't know if the the creative team [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► came out and actually spent some time [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► knocking around the area or if it's just [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► a lot of well educated guesswork apart [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► but i think they really nailed it was [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► nice to see ya know Jason breaking I was [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► I hadn't thought about this series that [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► may actually make your head explode [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► since we've gone back and forth on [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► preacher but how [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► what was striking me is again since this [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► is a really distinctive visual style for [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► from both the characters and the artist [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► as i thought you know the last time that [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► I associated book this strong with the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► artist who is consistent all the way [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► through with steve dillon although to be [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► fair with dylan always characters look [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► like because they all have the same [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► shall copy the fish but but they're [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► they're always there there is you have [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► to beat the Dillon has this really [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► distinctive style where you know you [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► look like [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► yep that's a steve dillon buck did to [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► that consistency did you find that when [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► you're going through the the first trade [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► or yeah I i did i'll see I wouldn't [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► compare it to dylan's stuff just [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► stylistically my brain can go there [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► gotten it but there was I mean the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► artwork was very consistent in the first [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► issue but I think it was just the pacing [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► of the first couple of pages made it [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► difficult for me to get in and I'm not [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► sure that was actually unintentional [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► because then once you did work to sort [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► of get in and understand then you're [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► hooked [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► yeah I can't see any preacher in sorry [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► no because it was just basically maybe [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► it was the square square jaw in the [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► young man but no there was just kind of [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► there was such a marvelous some [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► aesthetic consistency that again the [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► first thing I thought of was was they [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► had that that same consistency of line [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► and preacher but story-wise there no [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► resemblance to each other whatsoever the [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► i actually had to be on IDW's website [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► right now on there they're locking key [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► page and not only can you buy the books [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► you can actually buy replicas of the [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► keys [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► oh of course you can oh my god that that [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► uh that would frighten me actually I [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► don't want those keys in my house now [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► that somebody will come and kill me [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► not even the gender key know you buy [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► them just so that you can melt them down [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► it doesn't the price is too high the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► price and I time machine there's a time [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► there's a time machine key to the price [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► as to why that the evil beings will come [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► and oh no no no place in this keys are [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► super creepy looking [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► yes yeah they have the replica of the [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► head key [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► well that's good because it is key Oh [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► Lord that's because it's made of diamond [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► metal but you haven't read that part yet [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► maybe they're here surprise [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► to see you you learn where the metal [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► comes from that makes the keys [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► that's how crazy this this this story is [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► because unicorns have to poop somewhere [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► maybe i'm being misleading so I I'd like [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► to ask before we go to ask everybody [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► that music question what are you reading [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► which i'm not going to sing it's not [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► that musical because i always like to [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► hear what everybody whatever is reading [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► and if there's something that I should I [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► should be looking for in the at the at [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► the comic shop or as i call it the [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► comics app in my ipad Lisa what are you [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► reading [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► I just finished up bryan woods run on [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► Northlanders i don't know if i have [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► talked about this series for or not i [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► should also point out that i'm a big fan [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► of brand was work in general but North [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► lenders is it's a comic book series that [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► vertical pushed out of course and [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► basically it's about Vikings and it's [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► not contiguous there's a number of [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► distinct series arcs for example the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► first collection focuses around a guy [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► named Spencer and the returned who comes [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► back to take who wages organ somebody [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► who kicked him out of a Viking [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► settlement a long time ago they cover [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► mission that they cover early Christian [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► monks with the cross in the hammer on [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► there is up the volume i just finished [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► which is the Icelandic trilogy wrapped [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► up the whole series and it's about five [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► different generations of Icelandic [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► sellers from the first Norwegians who [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► came over escaping a political about [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► political situation on a around one [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► thing around AD 1000 possible before and [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► it goes down to the success of five [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► generations and how they basically come [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► to rule the island throught through [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► terror and ignorance and the writing is [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► it again not a sentimental series the [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► writing is often for a pitiless but it [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► one of the things he returns to over and [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► over again is how civilization that the [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► the trappings of civilization that we [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► all take for granted were kindled and [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► stops and starts during a period of time [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► when life was very harsh and the weather [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► was terrible and and the culture was was [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► very much an honor [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► honor driven one and the things people [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► do to survive and thrive and the balance [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► between the atavistic impulses that will [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► keep you alive verses from the more [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► abstract human intellect it intellectual [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► impulses are sentiments that have come [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► to define humanity as well the concept [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► and at end of civilization and again i [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► repeat Vikings so no biking's right no [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► one kind of like through line with with [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► it sort of sort of automatically linked [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► they're all about Vikings but sort of [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► different stories being told about [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► tonight yes [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► yeah there's one that set the Faroe [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► Islands there's another one that said [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► there's some other set in Iceland there [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► are some that are settin on during the [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► period the periodic sackings of the [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► British Isles things like that [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► oh there's one about set called the [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► plague window which is set in Russia and [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► deals with what happens to a woman who [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► who is widowed again during a plague in [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► what she has to do to survive and fend [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► off the attentions of the vigilantes who [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► have taken over the village in the wake [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► of every figure of authority dying [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► during a plague [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► well they do return to spend in one [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► volume send the immoral where he has to [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► fend off a challenge to our that he ends [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► up settling but there's no one main [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► character I mean if anything the [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► characters kind of the the Viking ethos [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► and it the earliest story i think is [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► setting about 780 ad and that it usually [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► runs to about 1,100 so it's it's a [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► really bloody really brutal period of [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► history and it's also fascinating one [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► because you're talking about a culture [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► that had rammed up repeatedly against [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► the Roman Empire and this is another [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► Roman parking spot was also be to [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► crumble and so this is about what [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► happens to people who are kind of [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► whipsawed between all of these these [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► different forces scrambling to to grab [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► grab resources in a really dark attic [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► alright so it's 5050 issues collected as [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► seven trade paperbacks i have from [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► right-handers yeah I have like I have [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► like to them on hand i think of another [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► five bird in my collaborator fibroid in [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► my collection somewhere and i really [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► like bryan woods work in general because [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► he also wrote [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► I think he did he do that [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► let's c MZ he got black sure you don't [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► want which one I really like is local [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► um yea which was done with ryan kelly [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► and actually jason i think you would [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► really like that Jason you would really [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► like local because it follows the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► adventures of one woman through about a [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► decade of her life from college through [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► to about age 30 and she bounces around [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► the country and what happens to her and [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► and what happens around her and um the [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► theme within the theme of that series is [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► is I mean that the overall morale is [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► there's no such thing as a geographic [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► cure because wherever you go there you [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► are [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► but under the but another one of the [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► themes is that place can shape you more [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► subtly than you can imagine and you [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► often don't realize that until you [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► actually the place but yeah Brian would [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► also does DMC which i was reading for a [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► while um I don't remember why I stopped [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► you picked up again but he's a he's a [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► he's got a for lack of better he's got a [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► really nice fresh modern sensibility and [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► keep he doesn't bring that to bear on [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the vikings but he does do a great job [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► of casting their societal arms into a [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► perspective that modernize connection [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► modern eyes and anna and mentalities can [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► understand and rock and I think that's a [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► real gift for any storytelling to be [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► able to take a history to be able to [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► take any historic period and put into [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► context for somebody who's coming at it [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► from from their own you know many many [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► centuries removed perspective so yeah I [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► would end and again best of the series [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► is totally done so there's no need to [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► worry about having to sort through 20 [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► years of continuity your backstory [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's and i also [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► have anything the vikings are pretty [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► under represented in popular literature [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► anyway so you might as well there's the [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► big boom in Viking comics and that no [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► that never happened [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► now now something something I should [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► throw in the just got announced as Brian [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► Wood is is taking on the adjective lists [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► x-men title and and it's going to start [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► in an all tea all uniting is so excited [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► about that yeah [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► x-men misleading title come on really [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► get to be fairly accusing him of [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► innovation the sixties where you know [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► men was it seemed to stand for Humanity [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► in general Charles Xavier was a horrible [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► horrible sexist or not [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► okay that's great that's I things i have [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► never even heard of i love it i love [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► being completely surprised by what are [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► you reading Jason brightman what are you [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► reading [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► well I'll go in the opposite sort of [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► direction and the book i'm most enjoying [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► now is matt fraction's Hawkeye I've [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► heard such good things about that but it [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► is so good and we can talk about it on a [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► upcoming podcast because i think the [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► trade comes out in a month or two [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► yeah it comes I i want to say that comes [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► out early februari buddy everything [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► fractions been touching his turn to [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► absolute gold [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► yeah the so this Hawkeye story every [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► issue is self-contained uh no real [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► continuity between the issues and it's [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► sort of as the kind of preamble of the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► book says this is what Hawkeye does when [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► he's not saving the world with the [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► Avengers which is mostly hanging out in [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► his apartment and getting into trouble [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► loop there's a beautiful scene where a [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► Tony Stark is over his house and I can't [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► even remember why but during the entire [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► conversation Hawkeyes trying to get his [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► his stereo system hooked up and failing [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► miserably to the point that a stark says [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► look I'll just buy you a new one forget [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► it let's go [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it's a really really funny serious they [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► did just have a aa2 issue event that [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► wasn't self-contained because it was two [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► issues but the artwork was so beautiful [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► and the the cover of one was a VHS tape [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► and the cover of the second one was that [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► VHS tape chattered and blood everywhere [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► as it was a a tape that showed Hawkeye [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► murdering somebody and this was a shield [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► tape it was a VHS thing not even a [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► digital tape and then it got stolen and [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► was out for auction and Hawkeye had to [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► get it back and it was a really really [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► funny started and that's the thing that [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► stories are so kind of light-hearted and [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► funny with a lot of heart and the [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► artworks beautiful and it's unlike any [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► other book on the Shelf right [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► now I'm reading an article here that [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► refers to it as the Avenger who is just [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► a dude and says that the plot of issue [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► number one is that his lair landlords [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► have something about the rent and his [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► dog needs to go to the vet [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► wow wow that's all if it was a cat i [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► think the dramatic statement be up [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► dramatically with me out tremendously in [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► the latest issue of Captain Marvel [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► that's what Captain Marvel has to do is [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► take her cat to the vet now will be [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► seated during the pivotal sticking [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► cramming your cat carrier secrets are [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► with that our vets funding secretly [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► funding Marvel now or like pet insurance [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► secretly behind Marvel Comics know [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► so besides that i'm also reading and [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► enjoying the new value into books [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► oh yes all my god they're so good which [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► is surprising you know I was a big fan [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► of them back in the early nineties and [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► you have to remember that in the early [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► nineties was more like the late eighties [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► automatically it was before the image [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► comics and the the big capes and badly [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► drawn characters and it was still about [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► story and it really feels even though I [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► everything in the new valiant comics [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► have all the modern sensibilities the [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► the stories feel very much like those [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► original valiant issues its they're [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► doing a really great job and there you [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► go changing stuff and making it more [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► modern but keeping the spirit of the [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► characters so much intact [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► that's cool i remember you talking to me [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► about the old value stuff and then now [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► they're now there's new family and stuff [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► new value stuff end of them uh elegant [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► i'm really liking Shadow Man and it's [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► almost embarrassing to say but a [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► bloodshot is really really good [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► I didn't expect to like it at all no me [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► neither and the bloodshot the name it's [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► just so stupid and it's kind of a [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► cliché of a a character now even back [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► then it really wasn't where the the [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► characters got these nanites that you [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► know can rebuild them from any injury [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► but they've done a really sort of [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► interesting take on that as well as it's [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► the the character who doesn't know who [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► he is and he's got to figure out his [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► past and it's been pretty exciting and [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► drawn really well and I did not expect [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► to like it at all which then makes it so [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► much sweeter when you do [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► cool is what are you reading way too [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► much map the new value books I've been [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► catching up on the one that i was most [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► delinquent on his Harbinger which is [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► kids with powers but not where everybody [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► gets together in a happy-go-lucky team [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► and they have a nice mansion and their [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► own jet and everything its you're [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► bringing me down man [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► yeah you know it the it's a different [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► take on superhero tropes what what [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► they're doing across the valiant line [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► and I've been I've been really impressed [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► with it and at first i was like a value [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► books are back aren't well that's [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► interesting they're going to make more [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► crappy video games [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► oh wait no these are people who actually [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► care okay great we have an episode [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► giant-sized we talk about that plug 47 [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► ronin has been really good even though [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► I've missed you so Jimbo for a number of [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► months as stan sakai has focused on [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► telling what is considered in terms of [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► ancient culture one of the definitive [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► great Japanese myths in comic form i [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► don't think it's getting a whole lot of [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► attention because it's the guy who does [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► use audio Jimbo doing an ancient [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► Japanese feudal myth but it's a really [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► good book and it's it's a limited run it [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► only be around for a little while and [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► then I'm catching up on all kinds of [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► stuff I'm digging back story i'm gonna [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► start back at amazing spider-man 600 [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► work forward and see if they really are [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► full of crap when they say they've been [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► playing this for nearly 10 years to do [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► things that raised and Benjamin's blood [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► pressure [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► what else there's something there are 0 [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► new avengers now New Avengers i'm [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► reading because i'm totally nuts for [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► Doctor Strange and we'll pick up just [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► about anything that he's in if if [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► anything just to to to cast a [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► disapproving glare at it because I think [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► he's the the most underused [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► cool character that Marvel has but New [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► Avengers takes the conceit of this [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► Illuminati group that he and Professor [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► Xavier and Ireland Richards down for me [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► Reed Richards Reed Richards name or [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► these guys got together and decided they [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► were going to be the secret Council of [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► superpower do that we're going to rule [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► earth and Black Bolt showed up and was [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► like yeah i'm i'm in um I'll just hang [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► out in the back [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► well he didn't say that he wrote it on [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► oh yeah he said it with his eyes with it [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► because got a lot and signing [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► interpretive dance then at some point [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► these guys came into possession of the [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► infinity gems which are very important [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► thing in the Marvel Universe going back [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► to infinity gauntlet and the New [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► Avengers are one of the many Avengers [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► plus adjective books but it's it's the [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► one that I find the most interesting [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► compelling alongside what I would argue [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► is is is is starting to be a pretty [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► compelling run on the core Avengers book [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► by jonathan hickman where the core [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► vendors book they're gonna have like 80 [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► Avengers or something they've got guys [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► like manifold who I forgot even existed [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► whose powers to essentially create a [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► door to go from point A to point B [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► that's all he does is literally all he [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► does is it he's a really good plot [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► device [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► how is that any different than close [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► though of cloak-and-dagger that's like [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► clothes whole thing as he runs around [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► his hot girlfriend and you have this [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► less dark this guy just has a door and [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► when you go through cloak and heat you [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► know the darkness tries to each you so [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► it's less than effective door this is [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► just this is just a guy opening a door [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► and on the other side is where you need [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► to go now he's literally the Avengers [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► doorman it's all the jagers early [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► literally is i think i do improve a day [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► so where would you like to go there you [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► go have a good day [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► you know animal the that the writing on [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► him and some of the other characters [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► stuff that people that they haven't [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► messed around with that much they [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► they're bringing some X x-men or former [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► x-force people in like cannonballing [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► rector and they've the the cast of this [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► book three issues in is about 20 people [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► but there's some big threat that they've [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► all got a fight but but New Avengers is [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► the Illuminati guys facing a bigger [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► threat that is is kind of on the scale [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► of cascading quantum chaos threatening [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► to end the universe and so they say well [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► III guess we're gonna have to agree to [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► reassemble the infinity gauntlet and I'm [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► sure that this is going to go really [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► well yeah ultimate power really never [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► corrupts at all it'll be fine [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► no my go-to book overall though is is [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► Deadpool which has consistently [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► entertain me in the four issues that [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► we've gotten since they relaunched it [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► without a bunch of weird stuff Daniel [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► was doing with it the is he still the [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► fighting dead presidents [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► yes he's still finding dead presidents I [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► think I think he fights Abe Lincoln in [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► the next one big one that's a big one [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► that's a big it's a big milestone I told [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► i told the the guys riding it that if if [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► they didn't have something interesting [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► in store for military Millard Fillmore [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► I that was it i'm just going to drop the [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► book but now they're there's so much [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► good stuff out there i recently tried [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► catching up on a bunch of the new 52 [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► stuff which a lot of which I dropped one [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► or two months in just because it wasn't [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► doing it for me now going back and you [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► know looking back issues i realize [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► exactly why I dropped 99.9 percent of [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► these books because either editorial was [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► you know running roughshod over the over [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► the writers or it just been they didn't [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► gel very few of them still work i'm glad [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► that I stuck with the Batman books i'm [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► glad that i stopped pouring needless [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► piles of money in the green lantern [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► family of Lucky Charms books [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► beeping red LED screen letters we what [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► me landed Zoolander we got lanterns for [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► every color in the rainbow [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► I got all the legends here rainbow [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► Lanterns have a good like my little pony [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► kind of competitor rainbow lanterns [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah frankly I would read at this [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► point i would rather read the my little [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► pony friendship is magic book then any [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► of the green lantern books because I i [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► feel like i'm getting one line of book [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► worth of story spread across [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► five different comics which is just that [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► I'm sure that it probably does some good [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► things for their balance sheet but i'm [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► just i'm not into that kind of crap [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► well you're you're you're reading a lot [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► of stuff I gotta say way too much I i'm [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► not i'm not reading so much and much of [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► the stuff that I'm reading is boring [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► because I've talked about before you [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► know still reading ultimate spider-man [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► now Jason if they had the gender key [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► then they could take Ultimate Spider [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► Woman and turned her back in 2 Peter [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► Parker there you go would solve [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► everything so walking key mash-up with [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► the Ultimate Universe and then we'll [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► then finally there would be a peter [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► parker who was a lot [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► parker who was a lot [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► I've again that'd be nice speaking of [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► which i did read amazing spider-man 700 [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► and there's a whole podcast a me [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► complaining about that I refer you to [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► that podcast for more i'm enjoying [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► all-new i'm enjoying all-new x-men which [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► is again Bendis and that is the kind of [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► ridiculous and yet a delightful premise [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► of the original x-men being thrown into [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► the modern-day world that we live in or [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► at least the Marvel Universe equivalent [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► and being kind of horrified and dealing [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► with the fact that what happened to them [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► when they all got all ball with a that [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► all growed up or in some people's cases [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► got all megalomaniacal and died jun Greg [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► not naming names Phoenix anyway uh huh [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► i'm enjoying that I think that that's [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► actually exploiting that premise really [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► well and it's a it's all about the [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► characters and and and how they interact [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► with the world and then they put kids [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► sort of Kitty Pryde is their babysitter [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► which is hilarious that give you [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► practice the authority figure over the [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► original x-men so I I've been enjoying [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► that and and and i continue to enjoy [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► extreme x-men by Gregg Popovich just got [TS]