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124: Hobbit Hanukkah

 

00:00:00   speak to us an Elvish clan O'Sullivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   pen and Muriel oh dear algebra haha we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3">TS</a>]

00:00:07   did it away that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/7">TS</a>]

00:00:10   the incontrovertible number 124 Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/10">TS</a>]

00:00:17   week 2013 welcome back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   incomparable podcast I'm your host Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   Snell and tonight's topic is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   a series of movies based on a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28   books or depending on how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29   view it moved a really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   really really long movie released in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   parts based on a book that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   long and also released in parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   yes we're going to talk about the lord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   of the rings and although we may touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   on the book here and there this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   an episode about the book so much as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   is an episode about the movies I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   we can reserve the JRR Tolkien's books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   for for a different podcast a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   episode in like 20 18 but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/52">TS</a>]

00:00:56   meantime we're going to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   movies I do have my thousand-page got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   single volume bound paperback copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   Lord of the Rings here so that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   read the songs of tom bombadil from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   and sing some elvish later but before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12   get to that i'd like to introduce my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   guests who are joining me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   journey that may take about 11 hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   complete my first my first member of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/77">TS</a>]

00:01:22   little fellowship tonight is Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   fleischmann hi glenn miller Lauren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   watermelon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   oh hello it's good to hear from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/89">TS</a>]

00:01:33   although i don't understand what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34   heck you're talking about you so you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   watched the movies that make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   no I'm with a glad to read the books yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   I think your frogs and like speak friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   and answer i don't speak elvish Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   it's a foreign language I don't speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   foreign languages besides which I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   too busy worrying about the monster that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   was obviously in the pool but we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   also on my fellowship although i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   suspicious heaps in the ring he may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   after its indian taco hi Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   well i watch the movie and that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04   make any sense and i'm referring to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   movies and not what Glenn had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   fair enough either way really thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   for you for making me for making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   watch like all 10 hours again which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/133">TS</a>]

00:02:14   legitimately was a good thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   I'd rather actually much much of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   DVD sets that never actually watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   because I've never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   I i went bought the first movie I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   through the whole thing i bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   second movie and I got through about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   half of it and just never got around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   the rest of it but the third movie kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   of started it and zip to the ending I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   wanted to see that part where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   where it go with your photo has to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   away and I have to cry because the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   from the original mix of Angel of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   Lennox is starting to sing on me cry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   I this is the first time I've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   sat down and watched all three of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   movies so this was a good i didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   the reason you you volunteered you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   the job was dangerous when you took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   you were the enzyme to the latticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   protein of Lord of the Rings viewership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   alright i'll accept that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   character but you know I'm i believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06   free will also joining me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   Fellowship is my my my good friend from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/189">TS</a>]

00:03:14   the Shire who likes to keep me company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   and occasionally polish my shoes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   stand more in hi Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   no sorry mr. Jason give me some fried up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   some rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25   ok with some cojones we're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   it to the end of this podcast uh well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   was that way to a stupid voice and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/211">TS</a>]

00:03:32   and yet there don't want anyways there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   blame you this part guess we'll all will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   all be be dead by the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   podcast and is there is there anybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/220">TS</a>]

00:03:44   have a field is why is it is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   important member of the fellowship he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   our gray wizard it's john siracusa i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/229">TS</a>]

00:03:53   think i am at all so i guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   qualifies for the hand that gives make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   sure I'd it does the point yet like Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   I think this is the first time I cracked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   open the super duper extra long bladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   Buster edition of these movies that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   have on blu-ray and went through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   mall so uh how can I help it was worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   it and I watch them all in one day is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   third or fourth time watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   extended ones you definitely wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   your astronaut underwear for to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   through these movies are you get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   paws one of the other I guess before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   get into the the details of the movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   wanted to go around and ask everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   what their what their experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   watching them was and we touched on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   little bit right here which is you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   you see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/272">TS</a>]

00:04:32   did you see them in the movie theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   have you watched them on video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   obviously there are these extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   editions that are available on video as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   well as the theatrical edition so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   are lots of different ways you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   can view these movies and given how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   they are do you watch them across a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   days three days six days something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   that or where do you put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   astronaut underwear and just get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   done get er done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56   I Glenn what about you well I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   original releases in the movies theaters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   is and be steelers expression is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/302">TS</a>]

00:05:06   planning services and then when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:11   extended versions came out I got those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   immediately because I'd I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   fellowship first and i thought that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/315">TS</a>]

00:05:19   the movies in theaters were pretty long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20   to begin with I actually didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   there were extra dimensions that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   the sort of interminable battle scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   in some of the films and the walking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   so forth more bearable because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   more of the mythology and more salty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   that they put back in so I've watched i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37   have three extended editions in indy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/337">TS</a>]

00:05:41   deform and watch those several times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   think at least i think the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   watches maybe the third or fourth time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   I've watched them and made a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   fast-forwarding this time around I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   haven't previously yeah it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   tough one for me I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   psychologically would've been better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   it had been set up like Game of Thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   where they if they had cut the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   into like hour-long episodes where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   mentally you know that you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   keep your brain cpu overclock following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/367">TS</a>]

00:06:10   all these pull all the plot and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   these characters all these locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   because at the end of one hour there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   going to be a break at the end that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   when there's going to be sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   natural bounce recap at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   it's not in the previous episode of The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   Lord of the Rings is going to be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   to accept that they did just like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   boardwalk empire they always start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   depth and the episode with an old-timey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   1920 song montage of like here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   we are right now here's what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   in Chicago and here's what's going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   New York City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   ok i remember that's the Rothstein guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   he's going to he's going to try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   into the heroin business good about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   and I'm situated and nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   where I am it is even when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   sitting at home and you're trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   through these movies there's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   another really really dark place filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55   with really grimy looking people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   turning on each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   okay well only way through it is through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/419">TS</a>]

00:07:03   it let's do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   I i did see all the movies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05   theater first I I just it'sit's set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/425">TS</a>]

00:07:10   there's such as a mental marathon isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13   it because I i never i have the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   same problem when i read the books as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   kid I read the hobbit love the hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   and so the next thing is oh my god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   gonna get this three-volume slipcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   version of this either the the next move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   the books in the series and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   got most of the way through the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   one and it's like it's like in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   cases it's like walking through thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   mud you can do it but after you kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   your initial momentum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   it's just lift the leg move it forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   planted down lift the other leg move it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   forward planted down and I just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   got that sort of momentum going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   books and with the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   it's kind of the same way we're just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   brain cannot keep track of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   things that are going on and why who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   the football in the in this movie who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   had is it supposedly about just the ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59   that has to get back and you gotta slam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   dunk it into the into the volcano the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   lava but why are we seeing these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   things and who what's what what pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   are being subtle and fitting together i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   did enjoy it but man I really you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   have to focus and work on this to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   the brain moving to make sure you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   follow these things that's what I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18   little bit tough for me for there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   lot going on here and I i want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   how everybody else is also viewed these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   i'll say that I do wonder if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/504">TS</a>]

00:08:28   mentioned Andy the idea of a if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   an HBO series instead of a a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   long movies i don't know i was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/513">TS</a>]

00:08:37   theater the first time since then only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   on video only the extended edition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   we do the extended edition the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   are so long that they're broken up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   across discs so there are six discs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   all of lord of the rings and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/528">TS</a>]

00:08:52   first time this year my my kids watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   with us but previously my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   would watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   not necessarily every year at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   the year during the holidays but almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   just almost and we watching across six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   nights which i like to call Hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   Hanukkah 266 night celebration and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/544">TS</a>]

00:09:08   know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   in six hour and a half ish installments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/549">TS</a>]

00:09:13   it I it really works for me I I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   enough but not so much that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/556">TS</a>]

00:09:20   it's slog and if i watch them over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   course of six nights or seven or eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   nights but not one a week or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   like that I can keep the story straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   and I know where we were when we left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   off and it works it's the only movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   that I do like that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   I don't think I could bear to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   in one sitting but as a miniseries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   essentially a six-night miniseries I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   it works for me i would ask dan and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   John but there are you know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   viewing methodology was Fitz crazy crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/589">TS</a>]

00:09:54   work Dan well the first time I saw them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   each in the amphitheater and before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   return of the king theatrical showing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   the time I was working in IT so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   borrowed a projector from work and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   marathons the first two before going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   an evening showing of return of the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   and in between then i think maybe I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   seen the extended editions once in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   interviewing almost I guess decade now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   yeah so this was the first time I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   watch them in a really long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   watch them all on different nights so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   split them up one movie / night over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   three nights but it was over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   of a couple I we watched the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   pretty close together and then the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   one I kept having to put off due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   scheduling stuff but just just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   it before right before this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   started recording remember did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42   theater show like I think in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   someone showed me cinerama the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   restored theater like the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   extended thing as a one-day deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   breaks like I don't know what you paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   for to see it but like the entire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   in one you know 12 hour session when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   would that wouldn't surprise me I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   feel like there's plenty of places that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   would that would likely do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   like that yeah I can't even imagine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   the young people do that people do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   they did that for the dark knight right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   where they did the dated batman begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11   and dark knight returns and dark knight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   rises in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   one day i just-i can't-- that's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16   that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   that's good horse or cow yeah yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   sure does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   John what about you what's your viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   method for this for this thing but I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   them originally in the theater you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   when they're right first run and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   the extended DVDs which I watched once i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   believe and then I had the extended blu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   rays which I've now watch once I cheated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   as I usually do by using my children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   because i had showed them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   rankin/bass a hobbit cartoon because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44   figured it wasn't too scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   sure I'm just you know just to get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   into I i have that i have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   fondness for that carter and i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50   that the only thing I remember about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   that entire thing is is is that the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   with the song they're all with the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   is the photo of the nine fingers had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/717">TS</a>]

00:12:02   ring of do that's better that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   backsheet that's the lord of the rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   one sometime Republican all right over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   the ranked battles are brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   alright okay we blown our photo of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   nine fingers way too early then I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   show the ones with the road scoping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   creepy room scooping up but yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   shouldn't have to get them into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   then I tried showing my son fellowship a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   while back but it was the once the race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   came on so it's two squares as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   years ago so that I try to get now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   bluray and he liked it and so I watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   all then with him and it was broken up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   by his bedtime basically because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   would watch and then you have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   bed and then the next day we watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   little more than you have to go to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   and I don't know how many days it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/759">TS</a>]

00:12:40   us because we weren't even completing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   like old disks or have to school just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   like a little bit of time between well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   that's like a hobbit ramadan it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   lets it out it went on many many days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   but at a certain but he really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   know how the story ended so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   always like we got can watch more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   could watch for that movie and he had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   conception over like how many movies it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   was or how many discs to eat he thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   it was just one big long movie I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   know it's like six discs like oh alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   well as the more can watch more so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   found engage anyway that's how i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   it the third time I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   in the theater once and then DVD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   blu-ray blu-ray installment plan with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   your son never enough and that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   really does make it more enjoyable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   know you're watching with somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   actually did the hard ends right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   yeah engage all got so watching with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   with my kids this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   uh they well they like when when gandalf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/807">TS</a>]

00:13:32   plunges off the off the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   yes it was very very unexpected to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   they're yes they're quite upset and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   I'm sorry bro this is great I've i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   watching it work right i'm watching I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   watching their that you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   they thought that was it for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   apple Sam again yeah that's well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   that's really powerful i mean i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   i do recall i actually did watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   fellowship of the ring with a my cousins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   and their daughters who are kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   know probably around 10 or 11 at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   time and I remember their visceral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/836">TS</a>]

00:14:00   reaction at the end of fellowship when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   Boromir gets shot which is a great scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   is really dramatically and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   like physically like you know shock yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08   they were twitching like oh my god you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   know because they did it does do a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   job of building those you know it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   good job of painting those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   and they feel you know they really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   them i think yeah although my kids said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   that they they didn't like Boromir say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   they totally be totally pick up on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   the bag him being portrayed as being not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   that great a guy but they said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   didn't like him until he died then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   like too many felt bad for him right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   could easily read yeah i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   exactly what they're going to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   your vagina fascinating to see it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   right now I definitely watch the Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   return and watch my kids take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   journey and get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   they're like oh I never liked him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   feel sad that he's dead yeah it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   because as adults I feel like we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   kind of jaded oh yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   especially for most of us you read these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   stories as kids and then saw the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   come out and so it's nice to be its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   being able to see it through fresh eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   is kind of it's a nice touch but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   a worthwhile point to make here too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   that the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/902">TS</a>]

00:15:02   I mean you know there's obviously always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   differences between the book and movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   and plot and not that part but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   book Boromir does not appear that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   in the movie he's always on screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   he's always glowering looking fingering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   his sword thinking ring like Assange is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   Charlene is just so damn good-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   but in the books you know you really go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   for page at a time which border has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   part except to defend the hobbits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   run down a hallway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   more like boring mirror haha burn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/927">TS</a>]

00:15:32   there is that point that that it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   when you have to visually portray nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   people together for this long period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   it's a different experience reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40   book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/940">TS</a>]

00:15:40   in which that person is not somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/940">TS</a>]

00:15:41   born here comes across as much means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   played as more scheming and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   malleable and weak in the book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   movie than the book as well but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   we just see them all the time they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   to have something that is business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   the problem with that is that we sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   the context of a book almost anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   possible because there's so much variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   and how book is plotted how characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   are taken from the start to the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   in a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   there's almost everything falls into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   very common trope and again i'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   outright the the said earlier that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   not read the the the trilogy books only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17   read the hobbit from start to finish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   I'd sort of football Boromir into okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   so they're setting him up as the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   that's gonna cause trouble for the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   that's gonna be the constant danger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   there's going to be a redeeming moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   and probably he's gonna die to add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   illustrate to the audience how high the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   stakes were for the whole thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   wasn't because i think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   books are poorly written and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   was because this is how i parse a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   there's a point which you drop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   penny and I can I can't help but hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   will bring against the tiles you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48   there's a textual shorthand you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   there's a narrative shorthand that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   all become accustomed to because we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   see how the machinery works so yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:58   mean i agree i mean i think there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   there's a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   predictability to that but again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   know different seen through are jaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   eyes than seen through the eyes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   someone who is not as familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   that formulaic progression sure line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   talking I mean so much so much fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   is has come from talking that it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:18   it's like you know it's what any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   these things where somebody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   something really innovative but from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   perspective of 50 years later it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   appear very innovative it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   everybody copied it it was so innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   so amazing and then in hindsight it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   looks like it's just one of the pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   when but no no it was first and and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   that you know we've got the the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   mechanisms here and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   trappings of this world are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   we know if we've seen a lot of movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   and read a lot of books especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   fantasy books and i was struck in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   watching with my kids that with off with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   a fresh pair of eyes I mean they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   kind of enthralled and they have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   haven't seen a lot of stories like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   and they you know it it was impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   for me to watch this movie even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   first time without thinking of the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   at least I I another aspect that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   like to get into is people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   relationships with the with the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   material because for a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   the books are something that you read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   lot i think john has read it multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   times on very small electronic devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   is true and for some people it say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   you know the books are an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   part of their their childhood memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   are adolescent memories i bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   book the version I've got in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   right now in two thousand when i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   london and i read it in two thousand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:37   I've never read it before so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   read until I was 30 years old and and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   a result might my view of the movies is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   very different i think from somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   grew up with these stories and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   knew the whole the whole story going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   and then somebody else might have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   read it all and have a like Andy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   have a completely different perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   too so there's so many different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   you can come at at a work like this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1136">TS</a>]

00:19:00   in so you know John Dean you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   have that you have a pretty close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   relationship with it with the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   material is that how does that an impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   how you view these movies now let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   think about that when I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   them again the fact that although i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   read Hobbit and Lord of the Rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   multiple times every 3-4 times the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:20   time i read them was probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   before the fellowship came out that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   read through them like one last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   before the movie came out right and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   haven't read the books and so long since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   since reading the books I've now seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   the movies three or four times and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   of like you know up the movies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   starting to I start to think did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   happen in the movie or did that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   in the book you know which parts did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   they change from the book or which part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   is that you know and I get them mixed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   in my head because I'm old right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   still when i watch the the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   it's a situation with the movies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   despite me not remembering what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   events changed where what was made up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   you know the the writers of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   not when I pictured in my head there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:03   almost entirely different things I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   I see nothing of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   and thinking about the books and vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   versa and but you know like in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   like what does the world look like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   do you picture in your head when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   reading the book i did not picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   anything from the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   despite the fact that you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   movies are out there and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   is when watching the movies even now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   even super duper long extended editions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   and also the sister of the hobbit as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   well just saw the first movie of it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   seem to me like this big long story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:32   we're going to dip the camera into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   story for like 30 seconds and then pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   it out and then we're going to dip it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   and we're gonna pull it out totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   disjointed but as someone who's read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:43   book so much like all right well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   fine because I know everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   comes between but they just they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   seem that way it seems like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   seems like just dipping a movie camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   into this gigantic river and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   oh yeah I remember that part and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   you're like okay about all you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   yeah our that wasn't really in the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   i don't think but anyway I see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   you're getting at and it just doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   doesn't feel like a cohesive whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   but it doesn't make me just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   movies because i know all the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   are in the middle as i know the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   you don't mean and and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   highlight yes I've always wanted must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   inaccessible to people who haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   the book I've worried what I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16   some of the time like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   can't make any sense the sequence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   things that just happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   they just have to take it on faith or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   ignore all the gaps there because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   I mean watching again it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27   obvious your stuff that makes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   there's a there's a logic to it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30   you've seen you know if you're familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   with the genre I feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   everything about fantasy is john r you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   can wave your hands over a lot of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   be like yeah you know magic or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   you know there is a certain logic to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   but i agree that it is as but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   someone coming over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   yeah you know it's amazing that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   became a blockbuster mainstream hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   given how this preposterous it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   and talking it's like when someone shuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   out like you know you know you are one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   of the race of númenor the other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   says yes I am and it's like oh ok then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   let me know that's not even that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   sometimes that's not explain that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   in the book because they have appendices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04   and some early and I was on a study but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   it's just it like it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   they narrative leaf it together the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   you would write scene scene scene like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   this see naturally is to the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   that doesn't actually need to this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   like 600 pages you just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   there are you know the 50-page gap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   you pulled out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   the way they have to be interleaved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   the book versus the way they're done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   the movies is very very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   because of the meeting which is fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   it's just the movies net the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   always feel like here are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   highlights from book that you liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   yeah except i've only read the book once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   and my wife has never read the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   as a game of thrones basis i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   to read these books so we're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   watch it and she has watched it with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   multiple times and enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   uh oh yeah all those times and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   thing that bothered her was not the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   the plot because I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   honestly you there are some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   shortcuts that the that the brain takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   where you're like watching a movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   you say alright okay thats you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   apparently he is not going to get old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   very fast right music nor it's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   whatever he's a ranger when you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   like okay and and if you read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   you might be like oh well that has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   this meeting but if you don't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   go get all right fine and you end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   that hasn't bothered her in fact I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   say as with Game of Thrones the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:21   that gets my wife when she's watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   these movies is is things like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   differentiating characters like which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   which guy is that because as are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   mutual friend philip Michaels often has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   said uh and and Lisa Schmeisser what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   really got here is Alfie dwarfee beardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   a cloak like cloak guy everybody when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:43   you had the too many pretty men with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   long hair yeah that aragorn Boromir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   Pharaoh you're 80 more you know i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50   say all start to look they've all got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   stubble and beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   this is a problem with thousand-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   books that it is just a minute you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   have that make their characters but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   in the fellowship with all white guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   yeah which is that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   which one is that because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   there's the elf guy and the dwarf guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   and then there's that there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   hobbitses and then there's the two kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   of or are madly guy with with a but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   there's the one with the beard the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   who just sort of hasn't shaved very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   right poorly shaved yea once again at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   once again to roll him that's when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   think most casual people start to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   track this like all right I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   fellowship down they were all kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   together a day they were different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   heights but now just throw hand they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   all just a bunch of scruffy horse yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   who's this horse guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   well in the row has seen it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   there's people are going to be important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   later who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:32   not the introduce them and give them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   screen time as if they will be nao and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   is kind of like hanging around you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   why did you keep going back to here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   just keep watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   she's the only interesting female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   character in the story that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   one of the reasons they keep going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46   to her and she's not that interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   the extended edition i think what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   doin is much more interesting and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   think that whole part of the plot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   more interesting in the extended edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   two more interesting but I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   if necessarily i would say interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   or was funny i think she's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   best centers of the two towers i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   but the books are the movies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   movie but it's anybody's anybody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   going to dip into the extended edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   for that reason though I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   people the people who can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   instinctively understand the plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   people who are already really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   familiar invested with it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   kinda hungry to look at those chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   that weren't that didn't make it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   part of the theatrical release that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   right recipe recipe you got confused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   begin with I'm not gonna dress ga nai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   again maybe maybe another half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   to really clear this up for me if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   this for longer it would be clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   exactly what my problem was it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   was a lot like it was a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   heaven's gate of you guys ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   Heaven's Gate Michael Cimino movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   1978 legendary movie that judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:44   legendary disaster movie actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   brought down Universal Media you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   united artists and but not to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   whole thing but the there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   two-and-a-half-hour version that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   make sense because it seems as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   they're like scenes from three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   movies going on side by side by side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   you never know well what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   beginning middle and end of this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   was the what character we supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   following and what goal is suppose being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   being made and then I I didn't get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   I didn't really understand that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   sought out being by on get on video the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   three-and-a-half-hour directors cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   originally permitted film festival and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   it's only a longer version of 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   different movies that are sort of cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   together and that's AII didn't I I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   say again I didn't I did enjoy lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   the rings but I got in there thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   that ok this is a movie about a ring of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   consummate evil that has to be brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   back to its source and destroyed or else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   it's going to call basically ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   everything but that by the time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   in like our two of this 9r movie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   feels like know they're telling six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   different stories of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46   the story of this good when the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   not over when the ring gets destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   it's also the story about the elves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   may be sticking around but may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   sticking around and it's also the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   of power wise itself guy got it in let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:00   the elf woman in love with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   romance novel covers sword guy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   just seems as though they just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   it's a multi-purpose massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   multiplayer multiplayer online game in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   which you can sort of like follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13   different friends as they both forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   know that I'm gonna play the game in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   which we try to drink the woman in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   chainmail under the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   I'm gonna do the one where I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   level up and finally fight the dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   it's fun but it's like Oh kinda really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   wish there was a through-line one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   through lines the entire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   this stuff is in the book though in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   end I i think that's one of the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   the the issues here I actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   that the extended editions add a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   good material and that there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   stuff and in the theatrical additions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   that uh is not as interesting as some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   the stuff that's added by the extended i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45   would i would sort of recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   anybody who's interested watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   extended edition but the but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   faithful adaptation i wanted to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   John mentioned you know you're dipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   into scenes from this really long book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   and even at ten hours you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   adapter 12 hours or 80 hours or however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   long it is you can't really adapt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   thousand-page book and sometimes i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   that uh and and I know now that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   that that an even shorter book is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   made into three movies by Peter Jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   it makes it even more difficult to to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   think about this but not all the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   there's a whole other series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   thousands of podcast so much so my point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   is you know it's great that they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:25   to honor this very important book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   meant so much to them by doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   faithful adaptation but there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   stuff in here that that I just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   and think why is this in this movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   I and I'm saying is somebody who likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   these movies and watch them a lot i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   struck every time I but I watch them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   the things that the things that appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   to me there are certain things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   appeal to me and then there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   whole thing's was like why is this here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   and there's the whole you know yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   elves leaving is important for the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   and yet it's very strange and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   explained very well and then should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   big Dan and the with a romance this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   weird abortive road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   dance between aon and Aragorn and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:03   at the end they like together together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   with fair mirror so that there's a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   and like yeah ending and it's so poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   handled and when is it an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   character and the the it you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:15   cleanse point that's true but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   there's so much of this planet in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   hole left Tyler thing which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   that's a character that's kind of blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23   up in order to have more of women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26   characters in the book which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27   admirable except that you know she isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   that interesting and if you're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   these movies in the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   she is your cue to go to the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   haha she's great she's great in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   first five minutes of her appearance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   then after that that's it unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   she has to play a lot of woe is me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   yeah that's part of my the inexplicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   part two is we were talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   books when i mean i think i've read over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   the books when I was in a teenager and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   may have read them for them at least 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   times maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   wow they're great i think they're part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   of my you know they're part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   errands i'm i'm a language family so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   and John are in the I've read these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   books over and over and over again camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   yeah and I've read The Silmarillion I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   read the you know some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   books i'm in the middle of you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   apparently i read fellowship in fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   grade for the first time I think I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   pretty quickly went through three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   them didn't read reread them until right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   before like John right before the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   came out and as is you know my team I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   notoriously poor memory I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25   them at all before the movies came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   i love the idea and i love the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   this you know he does create this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   that's that's fascinating it and iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   right you know because so much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   borrowed from from Lord of the Rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   that said find the books kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   ponderous what ya get through and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   for me like yeah I read is he at a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   age but the same time it was more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   it was like reading a historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   document and at times literally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   reading a historical document or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   silmarillion and like 730 that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   you're reading research at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   it's like it's really a history book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   the things that never happened didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   know it's it's like talking to the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:02   person who wrote his own fanfic that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   what hahahaha talkin was a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:07   flawless jist as it is a professor is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   professor in it we know these were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:11   in CS Lewis had a bet and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   gonna both write science fiction novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   and I think they're both the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   fantasy as well and you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   where out of that would LOL ron Hubbard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   that's I know what you think nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   part of the grand we all lost they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26   lonely man oh come on you getting aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   you get the seven Narnia books from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   and you get the silent planet Cyril and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   Ray Allen very deeply flawed but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   interesting books very different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   most sense for me I i have fonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   memories of narnia and maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   because I read the more softer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   easier to close your category this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   what does this say is that I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   one of the reasons i like the book says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   yes they're dense and parts i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   Fellowship of all three of the books is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   among the most approachable most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   interesting because it devolves into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   walking in battles and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   giant spiders but the the language is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   what got me that's why the silmarillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   was interesting to me the appendices as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   I was I never I don't think I was ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   on track to become like a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   full ology major whatever that major be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   linguistics or language but I language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   is wonderful i think we can all agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   that Tolkien wrote the best the road the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   best dnd sourcebook haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   everybody's best dependencies definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   well he brought the sourcebook for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   all high fantasy of the 20th century but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   that's right i mean and it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   funny to me as someone who has played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   played a lot of dnd as a kid and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   recently that I always look at the wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   but there's a wizard he's got a staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   and a sword Wizards have stories like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   this it's you know the the impact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   he's had spread so far and led to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   other worlds and crew you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   rules of fantasy right that it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   then go back to the original you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   the source of so much of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   realize yeah he wasn't strict about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   of these things as all the people later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   who really wanted to construct rules and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   logic for all these fantasy magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   systems and all that you know he played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   a little more loosey-goosey and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   you did you say it was he was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   fanfiction who get that was and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   that's never thought about it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   before but it was true he developed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   languages and they needed to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   culture that with them so he wrote book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   yeah you know that that's I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   you got it exactly right and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   also try to retail in he wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   England a mythic past yes that of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   own didn't have its own and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   essentially a you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   England is middle-earth Manicaland and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   it's sort of somewhere between like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   you know the the Danes and the vikings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   and waves of invasion whatever it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   it's an allegory for the I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   also an allegory for the world wars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   know how the same time I know he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   where he claimed that they were and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   so clearly are but he wrote a lot of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   of the rings before World War two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44   what's the right but he fought in world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   war one yeah you know that clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   impacts how he feels about this i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   i'd lost today in particular watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   return the king at the very you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   you get towards the end photo since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   they're going like how do you pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   your old life like that to me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   that's a veteran coming back from war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01   and clearly i read a little bit of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   bio well I was sitting there watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   the movie and about you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   convalescent you know injured and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   that in hospitals in school you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   think it's impossible for him to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   written that without that experience in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   forming it and then you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   world war two parallels and even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   not directly intended you know to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   it it comes across very strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   yeah it's it's a it's very clear right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   down to America saving the day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   America get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   no it's the Eagles do become a bald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   eagle swooping how could you read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   more blatant the net if they wait to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   last minute and then swooped in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   right price wells in the heart of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   American bear it's franklin roosevelt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   riding on an eagle and he just swoops in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   kills i think i saw the stephen colbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   a little too late because the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   really already already extended extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   edition it is amusing that stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   colbert's and massive crazy Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   Rings fair yeah when viggo mortensen was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   on The Daily Show and before the colbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   report it started and he brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   apparently some incredible gift to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   Stephen Colbert and they cut to like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   incentive Colbert reciting the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   history like the reading the appendices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   from memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   he does tom bombadil when I interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   neil gaiman on the colbert report noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   just on top of his head he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   interview and he just does like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   whole tom bombadil song its he is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   is quite the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   what do you see so you saw the week when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   he had like almost the entire cast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   jackson on the entire week know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   that's what you get go you should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   you have to see this because yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   again these are people who've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   living in this universe like Pierre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   Jackson living in this universe for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   ten years more than 10 years and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   like Peter tracks will say and then yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   there was the two and then well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   thing is we had we had a problem finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   the sword that I don't remember was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   and then he then and then Colbert will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   talk about that will not only correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   about the movie but also boasts talk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   two minutes but oh you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   blog which was the sword was forged by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   the heart of his new realtor for Danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   spoken exactly he's going like deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   catalog and you can tell he's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   trying to do a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06   it's like just like any really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   wonderful in like nerd it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09   cannot stop but shares of excitement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   with the guy who directed this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   well Jackson is probably also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   he's he's got internalised to tone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   down because he wants to reach a broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   audience and he's simplifying everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   and he's an old friend of mine and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   Stephen Colbert is basically like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   don't simplify let's get into this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   the thing that impressed me about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   interview one of the interviews I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   those interviews and one of them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   mentioned that when Stephen Colbert went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   down to New Zealand they were filming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   The Hobbit they had a token trivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39   contest with the quick their crew with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   the crew that was the movie and stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   colbert 10 and i don't think the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   there were pulling their punches so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   that's not just that but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   one was actually one of the researchers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   that they have like that on set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   yeah it was like all biggest marriage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   the movie the people speak fluent elvish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   are there i mean that's right there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   elvish consultants who speak it in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   spare time who finally found a purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   in life to be consultants on this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   and people to beat them fancy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   don't think they'd let him win because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   he's a celebrity those like the nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   who were there you know go to guys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   book facts on the movie they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   beat him and they didn't so that gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   him the most crabs little john's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   like if they ask you to star wars trivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   contest i'm not going to start you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   the star wars trivia ringer ok then I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   top him tapping for John yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   we'll do a little tag team will be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   was saying before that like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   extended editions like you know well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   know if you're really into the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   maybe like I'm adding that junk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   don't need otherwise I found you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   like the books and I found when I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   the extended ones with the extra stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   in it i would expect the extra stop to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   say all I call these gaps in this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   Swiss cheese and a movie that I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   when they add the stuff and really still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   fill in some of those Swiss cheese holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   and in some way somehow it just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48   more holes like by adding more material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51   I'm like it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   it's breaking it up even more because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   there's a whole section is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   didn't want to even think about this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   actually we're going to have one two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   a half minutes seen about that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   like wait a second now you just opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   an entire door here because all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   thing that you're talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   there's the extended scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   tradition of the bit where aragorn is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:09   the stables and one of the horses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   all his rider has been lost he can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   tamed and he goes over and starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   talking horse in elvish break or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   whatever his name is it calms down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   then a woman has a scene with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   she realizes he is and I was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   was a great scene but you're right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   like wait a minute they can talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   there's a wide please sing the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   about Baron everything and anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   know you don't know via lock two horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   all the time they just don't talk back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   that's right also the guy who plays the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   horses great two guys one of the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   one in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   spoilers they're both in the back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   understand was a dog in motion capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   suit if you want a relook at work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   gotta get anybody get this one they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   all andy serkis that's Michael you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   this dog is like the Andy Serkis of dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   that hasn't been done yet it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:54   that's great that doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   feel a little bit little like you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   these drug addicts that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   initially like get high off of the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   get a couple beers to get a buzz and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   my god they're out of control and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   the more they drink the more they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   more alcohol the more drugs need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   consume to get that kind of high they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   looking for you talking about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   filmmakers no I'm talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   I've been talking about fans they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   like your fans okay you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   earlier about how there are delicate we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21   wanted to run double stupor no go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   it it's mostly piping yeah but how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   want how you as a fan you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   them go deep catalog like that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   that's the stuff you want to see and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   think it in all kinds of different kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   of nerdom like a hitchhiker's guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   movie I didn't want to see a linear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   our version of like the first book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   wanted to see them put as many details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   as possible from where i could think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   could recognize as oh ok the little-seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   that actually came from the radio series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   of it was series a later series because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   there because there's a there's a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   are these two clones there a clone an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   anticyclone the way the complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   woman is called a little school the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   other one called was called win atilla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   and nobody knows nobody cares but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   is the level at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   which I want to be entertained by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   and this is the equivalent of I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   need to go to the liquor store get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   whatever is really really cheap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   high-end content and drink five gallons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   of it before I can face by day that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   how deeply I've got into this rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   hole of fandom on this thing you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   I don't I I just don't feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   added material and granted I've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   seen the originals the one time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   theater so I haven't done a an in-depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   look but they're marked the scenes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   are added extended are marked in the DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   liner notes and you know to me it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   like they had a lot of interesting quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   character scenes and scenes about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   that that were not either they they cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   out because they needed to have the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   have its arc for the version that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   along was short enough to be shown it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   a movie theater it's the types of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   more icebergs and I'm that's night right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   but but it adds a richness to me and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   somebody who hasn't you read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   once and does not consider myself a Lord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   of the Rings fan by any stretch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   imagination to me i prefer those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   additions because i like dipping into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   the those things i like those quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   moments and and that richness that adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   to it in a way that a in my mind makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   them better movies it also turns it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   being a series of really long movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   into like I said into almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   miniseries and it may just be that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   plays better for me and it works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   in that scenario but some of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   that they added you know in in an even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   fellowship of the ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   there's some quiet there's some hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   extra hot stuff and then there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   some choir moments later on when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   when they get to to Rivendell and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:43   know it's i'm not i'm not sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   going oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   finally I get the name of that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   thing in elvish it's it's not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   more like i like i like seeing a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   bit more of this world as part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   eleventh hour journey you know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   that got me though is for all that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   the extended edition in the main film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   there are some significant emissions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   the scouring of the shower is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   most powerful parts of lord of the rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   because it brings everything home it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   brings it to earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   it's the end of the tail i know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   are so many endings the movies it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   in the book as well I demand one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   and that's the death of Saruman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   have cast away in the books in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   star marks or dies it's the Saruman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   scene is even not i think played nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   as well that's a very cinematic scene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   the book and that played as well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   scouring the shower is very cinematic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   think critical in many ways to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   conclusion of the book and what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   then taking back their own lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   changing identity and it submitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   yeah it's just you know you're like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   go home and sit in the bar like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   romantic like all come all talk and tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   bombadil who by the way is it i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   one of the worst things in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:44   so I was happy that they took that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   out but I love Tom Bombadil you will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   a bunch of you who said so far that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   don't like long things you didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   the long book and he thought it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   slogging through mud the movies that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   alone I like the long book I read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   thousand pages roger ebert said the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   perfect thing possible that no-good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   movie is long enough no bad movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   shorten the length is we could do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   it but you said his head be it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   reading the books was like a slogging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   through mud knows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   I i guess i get along it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   they're slow I know but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   successfully since it's the disc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   density i know i can relate to that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   can tell you that in the books I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   and I mean I despite the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   don't read very quickly lot most of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   favorite books are more than a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   pages and there's something about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   the length in and of itself like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   fact that it's slow pace that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   boring that it's like a lot like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   the experience of reading Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   Rings has that feeling to me of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   want it to be just long and leisurely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   casual and why is that not boring what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   the line between long and lean casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   and detailed and and mind-numbingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   boring i don't know i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   what causes it to cross the line but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:51   that's how Lord of the Rings feels to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   as I want it to be just a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   thing with lots of details that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   its time with you want to be rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   interesting well even though I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   like they were there adding it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   that the scenes in movies didn't make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   Marco here and just made more holes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   given the choice of which 1i wanna watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   I wanna watch the extended because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   the very least what they do is add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   little tiny tiny bit of that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   from the books then some Down long very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17   long sort of you know it's taking its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   time getting where it's going it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   in a rush is not trying to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   three-act play it's like 9,000 discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   yes you know haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   that's like face like photoshop slip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   feasting on five hatch and swap is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   was installing Lord of the Rings ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   percent on it doesn't make for a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   movie but it does give me a little taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   of that feeling that I liked from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   book and that's how I judge these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   are apart from government moviemaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   which is there are many things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   complain about their I say ok there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   something in the book that I like in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   know and helms deep something I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   about Hobbiton something I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   gum you know that sticks out in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   did they get extract like ring out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   of that thing and put it in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   even if it's unlike an accurate way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   you know the surrounding stuff is dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   you know whatever it is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   thinking of did they get any of that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   here so like the Helms Deep battles a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06   good example I get a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   same feeling from reading the homestead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   battle as i did in the homestead battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   in the movie so good job there right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   so that's what I that's how i have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   judges look at every one of these scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   i really hate that Tolkien left out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   part where legolas slides on the shield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   that was not gonna hear that feeling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   not a feeling that I get no but notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   that's a that's of the steps of mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   always awesome i'll stand I will defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   it to the dead very says like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   hoverboard in middle earth that is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   it is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   I want to get back on something John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36   said there which is about pacing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   I this is this is something that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   been thinking too which is what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   it you know you don't if you're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   a marathon you don't start sprinting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   right you don't because it's a long it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   a different kind of race and a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   page novel in small print is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   words and it's not a short story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   it's not a short novel and when I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   about watching the extended editions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   watching them over six nights that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   mindset that I min is I'm happy for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   to be as leisurely as it wants to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:10   for me Ted for them to add the scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   that add to the richness but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   necessarily resolve the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   plot holes or anything like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   just add to the written richness of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   world that I'm immersing myself in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   the better part of a week and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:25   know to me that is the difference here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   is that is that I'm not expecting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   it's that many serious thing i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   expecting this to be a movie and holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   it to the the judgment of a three-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   movie because it's not it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   sprawling 11-hour thing we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   look for him you know it's a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   tone and anything I ding the movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   when it's not long enough like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   book the feeling when they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   through more doors just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   totally blasted landscape and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   no water and just miserable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   movie I'm like the way that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   three scenes they're already through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   that shouldn't be much longer that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   should be just an incredible slog of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   just torture is starving to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   I'm not knowing how they're gonna and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   did it like only what was that ok was 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   minutes but still it's not you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   want all of order to basically be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   entirety of lawrence of arabia inserted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   within return again at least like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   that is again I get judging section is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   about how do I feel when I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   about Sam and Frodo going through more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   feel like it's miserable i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   it's hopeless and like did they captured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   not really because they were too busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   with the Golem stuff which is fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   everything but like it they had other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   things they kept jumping back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   to what's going on it you know he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29   the book they do also not jump back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   forth as much they have like here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   solid thing of salmon from over here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   a solid thing what's going on with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   every day with the airborne endeavor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   they can't you can't do that movie right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   now and then but but that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   saying like it was in certain aspects i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   feel like they did didn't it the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   wasn't long enough and and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   only way i can judge this movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   like I watch them and I enjoy them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   all looking for here is did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   reproduce that think good feeling that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   liked about the movie in some form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   because cocaine it doesn't hold together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   coherently and the moviemaking is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   hand fisted and there are many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   not to like about it but I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   world so much the reason i like watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   movies like yeah they do occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   hit those little notes like oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:12   Oh yep I like that I like that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   book i like that but if I had never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   the books and just watch these movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   would be like all my god I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   watching us music here's a radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   proposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22   like what if they were able to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   libretto form of this movie just like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   opera like it's a it's like the operas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   are often like their hours and hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:30   longer a different language their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   stories from a different time and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   different country and so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   considered cheating that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   printed libretto that will say here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   the story that you're about to see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   in the form of like six pages you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   definitely follow so that you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   know how you certainly know how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   gonna end you know what the major story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   beats are and I can sort of just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   back and relax and enjoy the scenery the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   costumes and the performances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   what if they were a version of that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   for the lord of the rings movie where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   the same land in 10 never talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   anything i'm just talking about what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   you were to summarize it in here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   they're 12 years a 12-page version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   this movie that will just show this walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   you through beat for beat for beat not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:07   even like subhead here the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   but the studio to retell the story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   the form of 12 pages i think it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   the the wikipedia entry no no i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:17   don't want to go by the wicked ride out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   of this that I think the key is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   cannot be written by anybody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   read the book more than once and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   want people say we put it away i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   want to tell me what happens in inhales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   deep okay first of all it's a it's I if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   if you have that sort of orientation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   around you even reading the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   would it would allow you to sort of let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   go of this idea of I I I can't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42   track of all these names i keep can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   can't keep track of all these locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   you can just sort of enjoy the story as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   it's being on unfolded and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   problems with is that at least like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   the star trek universe with someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   cock like okay he's a Klingon I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58   know what he's after but I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   he's a Klingon where is ok to do is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   Boromir floor mirror just dominoed ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04   like okay those are four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05   species but they're all essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   daughters and sons of the same traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   salesman for from two generations ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   because they have the same root of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   last name and this goes back to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   things my wife is confused about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   there is but there's Rohan and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   gone door and they're all humans but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   some of them ride horses and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   them don't ride horses i found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   explaining this stuff to my son is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   watching it pause the movie frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   to explain but it's like I feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   can't you can't always say like ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   they're in Gondor III what i would do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   i would go to the map that hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   comes with the expenditure I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   to watch a movie and say look here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   here's gone door here's more so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   that's why they're worried about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   they're always there right by Gondor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   Rohan's up there but then when they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   attacked they didn't come and say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   like I have to explain the geopolitics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   otherwise like I didn't think an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   eight-year-old could understand why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   these humans mad at each other like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   see it's because of where they live and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   because of alien that he's the steward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   he's not the king but the king is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   and who is the guy was related to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   King you know that tiny throne tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   throne when Mordor assassinated arch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   like Franz Ferdinand yes be seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   does happen otherwise like I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   can have a war movie I guess without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   knowing what war one happen but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   like the whole point of this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   it's like geopolitics and how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   how can you understand what's at stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   in these battles and why these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   are mad at each other and they do put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   that in their performances of like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   mad at who for what reason because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   who's dead relatives and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   even all the way back to solder which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   they were nice enough to put in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   the beginning of the movies like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   know I'd argue this one advantage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   movie over the book is it opens with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   actual explanation of the scope of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   what's going on and why everyone's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   freaked out because the books you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   like things are great in the Shire but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   yeah it takes a long time to get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   point while you're what anyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   worried about anything in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   tool suspense is why the fellowship you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   know you got the deed all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   intervals and greater and greater evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   you meet the evil trees in the tone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   river you meet the evil better right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   spots from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55   hobbits are the ringwraiths and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   build like okay there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   somebody even more evil than all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   and that's what this all come about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   the movie i think it's actually find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   that they set the scene by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   alright there's this dude he's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   evil we got rid of him sorta and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   things got messed up so go and can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   get some agreement that the best part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   all three of these movies is the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   of fellowship where they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   backstory is not the best what the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   part of all if you had to pick what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   the best part of all three of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   movies i would say it's the opening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   opening sequence for the shows are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   mostly because there's no dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   it's also where you know they cut to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   later because they have they have l ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   is recalling i was there three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   years ago you know they cut back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   Senior like this would actually also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   a good movie when I'm not because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   would start talking and have music cue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   musical cues and three good movies glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   well I want to defend I want defend as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   whole i really like fellowship of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   ring is my favorite of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   I think largely because the scope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   smaller it feels more personal feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   more intimate as a movie it has some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   my favorite John was driving the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   filmmaking as ham-fisted I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   Fellowship has the best of any of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   because it's not Peter Jackson going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   over the top there are little shots i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   want my favorite shot the entire trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   is the when they are the first time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   leave the Shire and the end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   on the road and Jackson uses the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   Alfred Hitchcock's vertigo you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   pan-arab zoom in trade dolly back shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   on the road and get that need effect i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   love it but i would call him and fisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   you got it got it other than know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   it's beautiful that's great it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   moment it's a great shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   I think fellowship is my least favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   except for that one opening what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   rest of it because I you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   else starts to blur together after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   while Holmes deep looks a lot like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   battling Gondor you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   like other counting how many guys they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   killed and he's got a bit of his helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   on students good filmmaking is focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   they build up to that battle even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   forgotten why they're even battling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   understand that there if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   decided that their best option is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   retreat to somewhere where there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   escape and that the bad people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   coming and you you know it's a good bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:07   it's a completely different movie though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   because i think i think two towers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   and return the King are very clearly war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   whereas the fellowship of the ring feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:15   like an adventure but i'm with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18   that once they get to return of the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   the stakes for Gondor it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   really care what's happening in Gondor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   as much more shows deep it felt more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   personal like oh I know those guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   are holed up there and they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   problems and it looks like everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:30   against them in here comes Gandalf and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   yeah you know like I had the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   feeling by return of the king was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   it's too much cgi for me i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   the earlier movies where the battles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   feel like you've got the fellowship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   right and it really feels like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   these nine guys right and they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   to get over you know basically to Mordor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   but dr. village Peter Jackson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   filmmaking skills i know that filmed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   at once but the filmmaking skills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   fellowship it seems like he was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:54   still finding his legs and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   almost like it was made by like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   b-team I don't agree because i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   it you know if you look at his earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   work it's very it's very much similar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   the same way that if you look at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   Sam Raimi directing spider-man it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   he's got a lot of stuff that technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09   you know resemble stuff he did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   earlier movies you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   something distinctive about the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   Peter Jackson did it and it's odd i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   just listening the other day because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   talked about this a little bit and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   of our previous podcast you know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   has such an eclectic history coming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   know film background before he gets into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   Lord of the Rings but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   that some of his yeah he did some sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   stuff earlier on but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:31   I think part of that still continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   with a meat but you could argue the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   thing about Lucas and star wars with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   the you know the wipes and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   was very much nineteen-thirties yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   that's kinda ham-fisted two depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   how you look at it i think you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   was an oh my gosh that's what does like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:44   quentin tarantino doing grindhouse yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   but i think i think this would be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47   think it without a lot of the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   makes it Peter Jackson and some of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   find a little bit silly but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   without all of it would have been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   sterile and that i think would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   bothered me more than something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   occasionally a bit kitschy some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   do say it is it feels a little generic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   don't totally agree with that but I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   where they're coming from like they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   know generic warrior guide generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   health guy like I don't think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   generic I think they aren't designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   right but that's not Jackson as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   this the source material again being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   kind of archetypal I know like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   that's that I think that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   what they're seeing and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   realize like this is the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   reminds me of the famous penny arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   comic that no one on this podcast will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   know what I'm everything so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   represent but someone in the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   will wear gave talks about what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:31   warhammer and world of warcraft anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   we'll put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   oh yeah that's a good one I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   what Germans had two things I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   measure one is it if we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40   confusion and and stopping to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   what's going on it's not like I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   that for Game of Thrones to first off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   I'm happy and I'm gonna pin this one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   one talking having your most obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:53   present bad guy be named sorry man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   and then having your other bigger bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   guy named Sauron is really confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   because it's like which one is he are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   they the same are they different it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   like they're practically the same name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   so that is a that that's also super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   super confusing and in terms of movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:14   actually think i prefer the two towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17   because i really like that at the Helms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   Deep scenes and I really enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   scenes with with the Gimli and legolas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:26   i'm going to get all the names out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   aragorn when they're kinda on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   chasing the orcs but that also leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:34   one of the big problems structurally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   with the with the series of movies which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   is the Fellowship's not around very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   there around four part of the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   first movie and then there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   breaking of the fellowship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   and then in the second movie sam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48   frodo go in this bizarre holding pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   where they go over to they go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   the swamps to the Blackgate I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   just circle of the airport yet they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   they're literally in the holding pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   right into Mordor holding pattern for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   awesome fuel before the crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   it's just so they get so they can close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03   out the movie and say hey look remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   us we're gonna still go on to that place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   hi guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   they could they could not be they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   literally not be in the second movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   it wouldn't have any impact their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   they're barely anyway I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   some good there's some good character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   stuff that goes on but i agree there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   not wise not much happens with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   exact date but that's kind of John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   point like they're just walking that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   what they're doing admit that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   that was the mechanics of having three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   movies right but it makes you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   you're getting jerked around because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   they're not only are they walking there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   like walking and then walking back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   by the end we're back at the river and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   that's what are we doing here you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   it it's like like one of those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   family circus cartoons where Billy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   like that around the neighborhood with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45   the dotted line stopped and had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   sandwich more elegant bread up to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   credit though the movies the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   scenes about Frodo and Sam walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   around are pretty much just as boring as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   the book their big splash having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   the book so many times I have to skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   over most of book five of six like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02   just going alright I don't none of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   adds anything to me when you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   you watched a movie and you read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   it usually means you watch the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   movie and read the whole this whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   that you say i watch the movie but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   fast forward to our spot that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   actually watching moving freely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   technically all you wanted someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   associated a certain number times now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   you're being silly if you if I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21   the books ten times now I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   there's anything shameful about skipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   and I'm just saying you don't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   you watch the movie again if you fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   far and you can't skip parts i mean yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   you can because you can you can presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   you know you know what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:33   it's tedious I don't need a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   reading again unless it serves the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   that this is this is going to be sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   one of those fundamentals arguments so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   think we have people that know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   it is it's just some it's just semantics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   it's like all arguments i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   could argue that if you've read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   ten times and then you and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   leave through it and eleventh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   haven't read it in 11th time you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   lived through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55   parts of it the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:56   working parts of the walking walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   parts are boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   parts are boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   print as well as in the movie is the pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   looked at I've looked at the map on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   endpapers a lot there so I said that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   like i said that i like the the the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   towers but one of the reasons i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   two towers is because of almost it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   like despite sam and frodo because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   a manfrotto and got one column whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   interesting but they're like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   whole half-hour half the movie is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   misunderstanding where they say take us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   into the black gate he goes oh I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   know you meant take me to mourn all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   right that's a totally different way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   then they well sucks for you hobbits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   come with me and and then they get how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   might you know that and that's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   and it's a problem of the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   material its problem how you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36   make three movies and you have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   it give it a plot but it's also just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   problem that this this is a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   different stories and the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43   interesting stories at least peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   jackson and and his judgment to a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   audience are these battles and armies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   and horses and things like that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   idea is it supposed to be juxtaposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   with this quieter story about Frodo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   struggle with the ring and say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   trying to support him and gollum trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   to intervene and steal the ring back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   the problem with that is there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   not enough of that to carry the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   the story and so in the second movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   know they kind of the kind of vanish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   you feel like you know it's like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   middle seasons of lost we're just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   to stretch it out we got we're not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   yet just keep on stretching it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   it's really that part is frustrating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   you know I i like i like the two towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   really because photos nowhere near Helms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   team you know things that I judge these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   movies on for my enjoyment is how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   do I like the thing that the that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:37   guess the Saturday the setting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   thing how much do I like the setting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:40   and you know they made all the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   practical sets with Hobbiton and shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   and everything like that but like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   example rollin I like wherever that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   New Zealand that was shot i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   horses i feel like the wind swept area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   right and I like less the Giant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   cg city of Gondor whatever so a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   lot of my affection for the moon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   example and fellowship i like them going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   down the river like the big statues with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   your hands up the Glen will know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   names up little statues are great like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   those parts of the movie like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:11   people make fun of my spectacles like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   was giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   possibly like all just a bunch of robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   fighting but there are beautiful places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   in New Zealand that have filmed in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   movie in a nice way with with very hokey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   music over it but you know right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   that's what I'm saying about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   movies I feel like there is less of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   elaboration on what is already there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28   looks beautiful i mean even the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   sets things like whether top and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   Manhattan at the end which is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   think my favorite like battle scene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   the entire movie is Aragorn and against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   all the orcs means they works are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   crappy by the way they died way too easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   the reliance on practical effects is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   what the same way that we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   this with you know something like Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   Wars where the reliance on models over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   the reliance on the cgi stuff which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   seems very solace I think that's to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   what I really loved about Jackson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   interpretation was I could easily see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   almost any other director going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   like oh well we could make you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   Giants but whatever that's way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04   expensive we're just gonna we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:05   do everything in CGI you know and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08   knock it off for half the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09   otherwise the soundstages where the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   is no good though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:12   Mickey yeah well whether top prospect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   making this argument final decade is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   because when the Phantom Menace others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   came out and it was obvious from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   beginning there it had that green screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   feel everything about it felt artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   they were never interact with real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   objects real places and you juxtapose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   that fellowship came out and it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   real i remember one of the actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   talking about a scene in the mines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   moria where he's like we're in this room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   and it's like we're in the minds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   others cameras and stuff i look down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   floor and there's a piece of paper i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   pick it up and it's covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   dwarvish writing it's not they they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   in a space that was designed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:43   them feel real Andy Serkis way into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   motion capture was there acting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   performance he wasn't it wasn't them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   acting too empty air and they dropped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   the cgi later they were all in a space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   working together that had real depth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   character they could work through there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   was a bit actually you know walk a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   a mile or whatever they were walking 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   feet over and over again that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   depressing part of these movies is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:05   I realized they spent so much money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   these movies and these are the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   and people who made these props cared so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   much and yet still I think some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   practical sets don't look that good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   like it because I want him comparing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   to is the natural beauty New Zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   which they didn't have to manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   like those mountains are there right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   you can fly the helicopter over them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:21   the Sun actually sets and it's like boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   you know you can't buy that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   built these awesome sets we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   best job they could possibly do with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   this money like they built home Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   that sometimes don't like em ory looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   little bit like a soundstage guys sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   I mean like how much better can they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   it like a i'm a big proponent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   technology i feel like you know in 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   years you can do the Rings over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   with CW making her to meet you and John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   will have to invent time machines to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   back in time build maurya let it age for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   thousands video so they can come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   and film in there but you can use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   computer for that I'm saying like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   like this is the best that they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   could have made it given the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   money but still sometimes you like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   really it what happened what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   be compared to the actual natural beauty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   of a real place on the sets that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   built can hold up to that that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05   know the lawrence of arabia factors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   look at a real desert you know looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   good on camera but if you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   stuff on a soundstage it looks very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   different so I'm not faulting filmmakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   for that but it just goes to show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   when they said this movie these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17   are unfilmable I kind of see why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   would say that because they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   these people like this is a great team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   they really want to do it but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   sometimes I'm like now forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   perspective not quite working for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   they're all that sets not that great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   know your props are beautiful you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   if you listen to the directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   commentary I've listened to Jackson his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   wife and the the writing partner Kyle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   became a witch 1i watches a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   ago and there's a part where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   they're actually joking there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   they go through their like yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   like well for the 25th extraversion 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   anniversary edition will change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   they'll start laughing it's clear they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   have a list of their head of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:50   stuff and different scenes they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   talking about it and they're not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:53   negative but they're being a little ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   and they're like oh yeah we wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   look like that we couldn't like after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   the 25th anniversary edition so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   they've got like a shot list of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   they're going to do with the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:03   is new with rendering is a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   times again they're going to insert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06   hayden christensen as one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   ghosts Kings lego a shot first man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:12   damnation Weathertop and jon was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   earlier about things that he sees his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   mind when he's reading the book versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   what was the movie two things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   movie matched more closely i think than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:24   any movie I've seen based on a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:27   well other than I guess like watch men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   where they literally took the pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   made them the storyboard all when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32   also went to yet when it's a comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   all right it's a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   act but but the the scene where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   hide under the roots of the tree to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   off the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   when the women on school come by is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43   exactly how I pictured it when i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   the book that's also a great scene i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   love that I love everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   beginning when the you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:50   running away from the rates right nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   and scary it's very it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   atmospheric yeah oh yeah and my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   were definitely terrified at that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57   which was good because they're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58   to be that's a scalar scary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   screeching and it is that screeching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   let's know it's not the screeching at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:03   the sniffing sniffing part only address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   write a lot of me though and Weathertop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   Weathertop actually looks like I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   it would be pictured as a soundstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   know it's a it's a hill with rocks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   but it was a little high Landry actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   no one around so that was surprised i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   like so much didn't hit me the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   although i love Weathertop how I copped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   a shot now John you mentioned helicopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   shadow i'm totally with you i'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   with it takes me it takes me out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28   whole story where I'm like what am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   i flying that's a helicopter their legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   field with a camera in an eagle it fluid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   they take me out of it every time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   their beautiful shots of the scenery but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   it takes me out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:38   the signal fires is the one time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   works because then it's actually makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:41   sense you're following the signal fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42   but i do like the helicopter shots if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   only because it's like wow they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   like think how much land they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   clear out of the way many people filming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   feel like there's like a hundred miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   around there's nobody there with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   six guys impressive and beautiful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   just takes me out of the out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   movie entirely and I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   helicopter and I do every single time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03   think that's a helicopter in it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   just there's something about it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   it's ok it's interesting to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   like how how we've been programmed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   previous movies it's like whenever I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   a movie that's filming on an epic scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   at some point i'm drawing back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:18   language that I learned like with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   huge like cinerama like David Lee way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:23   Lawrence of Arabia from the 16 right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   like well the heat he didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   helicopter available he had a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   freaking platform they lock the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:29   down on and so at all so he didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   like five lk occasionally had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   thousand extras but rarely could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36   have five thousand extras and monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   costumes swarming in a formation that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:42   really kind really very very good but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:45   looks like it's been so nicely tweak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   make sure that every orc is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   where this creature needs to be and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   reminds the reality of it that if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   just went 2-1 establishing shot this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   okay by the way huge field of battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:58   many things going on you got five so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   got three seconds to look at album ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   let's put her down that field of battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04   you'll be able to see likes different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   spots about it because you get with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08   either the fourth or fifth or sixth time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:09   you see that helicopter shot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   sweeping you know you want to hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   yeah yeah okay so I be a mouse I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:17   been caught carried off by a hawk i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   about to be desired meeting but I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   see you know the hills are new zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:22   before I go okay that's nice nice last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   thing before i die so this is the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   where we wear like peter jackson i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   i'm going to split this podcast in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   perhaps three now too so we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:34   stop it here we will pick it up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   next episode where I hate to say it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   I think there's going to be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:40   wandering around with hobbits and column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:43   and maybe some battles but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:46   episode III think we're just gonna end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   it here and i'm going to say goodbye for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   now to the members of my fellowship John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   siracusa thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   not all those who wander are lost Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   please come back next time for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59   wisdom like that i will you promise I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   ok good Dan Morgan thank you for taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   half of this journey with me i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:07   hope that someday I get compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   Boromir wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:10   Glenn fleischmann thank you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:14   here uh I hope this more elvish in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   next episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17   Lucien's new video I hope there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   last selfish couldn't have said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   better myself and indian taco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:24   thank you for being here too as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   this podcast is over I'm gonna have big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   taters big bull Gators baked potatoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:33   loaded with butter if i ever get home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   after this broadcast and a nice fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   Coney until next time when we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   about many more Lords many more rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   Elfie door fee Hobbit 104 not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:50   about hobbit 2 and 3 this is jason l for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54   the uncomfortable thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   come back we promise we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   this more in another episode until then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:01   goodbye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYqZaYo/4261">TS</a>]