The Incomparable

120: A Horse with a Hat


00:00:00   guys I'm just gonna interrupt for a [TS]

00:00:01   second with some good news we're all [TS]

00:00:02   still here midnight [TS]

00:00:05   oh it's true on the eastern o'clock [TS]

00:00:06   still says a 59 there's a giant robot [TS]

00:00:09   fighting a giant monster outside my [TS]

00:00:10   window but i'm sure that's a good idea [TS]

00:00:12   on Thursday sec right it's true happens [TS]

00:00:15   oh it is there's this it's marrow button [TS]

00:00:17   saddle sign that's right robot thursdays [TS]

00:00:23   the incomparable number 120 December it [TS]

00:00:29   went well [TS]

00:00:30   welcome back to the copper podcast I'm [TS]

00:00:33   your host Jason L I realized as I was [TS]

00:00:35   watching TV and seeing things posted on [TS]

00:00:38   the internet and when I went to see a [TS]

00:00:40   movie a couple of weeks ago that there [TS]

00:00:42   is a ridiculous number of blockbuster [TS]

00:00:45   sci-fi movies coming out this summer [TS]

00:00:48   nickel and i thought i thought it's [TS]

00:00:50   insane it's and I i actually imagine [TS]

00:00:53   them as one big kind of like super movie [TS]

00:00:55   where they were all it just sort of [TS]

00:00:56   smushed together so what what i asked my [TS]

00:00:59   panel to do is uh join me and watching [TS]

00:01:01   the the trailers for these movies and [TS]

00:01:03   talk a little bit about what we [TS]

00:01:04   anticipate what we thought of the [TS]

00:01:05   trailers and and just what we're [TS]

00:01:07   thinking for fruit for stuff we're going [TS]

00:01:09   to see next year so it's like a look [TS]

00:01:11   ahead maybe even some predictions a [TS]

00:01:14   crystal ball or or maybe not joining me [TS]

00:01:17   in this exercise of look uh looking [TS]

00:01:19   forward and looking back are my fine [TS]

00:01:22   fine panels i could not have assembled [TS]

00:01:25   the better group to stand here at the [TS]

00:01:27   end of the world and sum up what we did [TS]

00:01:30   as a species and it starts with Steve [TS]

00:01:32   let's hi Steve hi Jason happy final [TS]

00:01:35   night [TS]

00:01:36   happy end of the world to you too ah I [TS]

00:01:39   feel fine so far anyway it's too early [TS]

00:01:42   to tell [TS]

00:01:43   can't be sure damn morons also here hi [TS]

00:01:46   dan I know it's out there is a lot that [TS]

00:01:51   was the song [TS]

00:01:52   yeah you're gonna you're gonna go out [TS]

00:01:53   with parody song lyrics damn thats not [TS]

00:01:55   like I came in I went out like that once [TS]

00:01:58   it was fun [TS]

00:02:00   John siracusa also joins us hai jaan and [TS]

00:02:03   the ghost of science fiction movie [TS]

00:02:04   disappointment future good excellent [TS]

00:02:08   that's a great costume by the way free [TS]

00:02:10   disappointed really tough to pull off [TS]

00:02:11   you know it's all about the accessories [TS]

00:02:14   you should have put some holes for eyes [TS]

00:02:16   there tho ya episode 7 is not going to [TS]

00:02:20   be that good but you like it ok compared [TS]

00:02:23   to the prequels who the worthy ghost [TS]

00:02:26   he's got lots of information but if you [TS]

00:02:28   come from the future you don't want to [TS]

00:02:29   be cryptic on and and I i neglected to [TS]

00:02:34   mention the most important person here [TS]

00:02:36   tonight which is Scott McNulty because [TS]

00:02:38   he knows the future he comes from the [TS]

00:02:40   future we do what we do what he tells us [TS]

00:02:43   to do because you know [TS]

00:02:44   everything I scott and i have seen the [TS]

00:02:46   future and it is bad oh no that's [TS]

00:02:51   disappointing [TS]

00:02:52   our topic today is the future will be [TS]

00:02:53   reviewing the future it's like it it's a [TS]

00:02:56   letdown [TS]

00:02:56   I'm afraid of it other not as good as we [TS]

00:02:59   had hoped not as good as the book now [TS]

00:03:02   no flying cars where are the flying cars [TS]

00:03:05   where is promised flying colors yeah I [TS]

00:03:08   want my flying car [TS]

00:03:10   yeah I don't need a jet pack that seems [TS]

00:03:12   dangerous flying cars that that would be [TS]

00:03:14   I want to get back i just don't want [TS]

00:03:15   anybody else to have a jetpack i also [TS]

00:03:17   want to find car but don't want anyone [TS]

00:03:19   else to have a fine car i just want the [TS]

00:03:21   tiny little handheld device that allows [TS]

00:03:22   me to video communicate with anybody at [TS]

00:03:24   anytime anywhere around the world would [TS]

00:03:26   not be cool [TS]

00:03:26   that's what I wait for it yeah someday [TS]

00:03:28   video calls maybe yeah [TS]

00:03:31   Impractical never gonna happen now let [TS]

00:03:34   me recap the the movie trailers that we [TS]

00:03:36   assigned to you [TS]

00:03:39   pacific rim which is a coma [TS]

00:03:43   what is it a camera built del Toro [TS]

00:03:46   dangerous google search by the way [TS]

00:03:49   geared guillermo del toro automatically [TS]

00:03:52   different couple gotta you gotta search [TS]

00:03:54   it on on IMDb and don't go beyond that a [TS]

00:03:56   Bolivian which is a Tom Cruise vehicle [TS]

00:04:00   really heard that as a bolivia bolivian [TS]

00:04:02   yes just one [TS]

00:04:05   some might say the Oblivion after earth [TS]

00:04:09   which is not to be confused with titan [TS]

00:04:10   AE no one made that good fusion a saloon [TS]

00:04:15   stands for after artists i saw that [TS]

00:04:17   movie in the theater Jason I know what [TS]

00:04:19   it is that I did to the i saw in the [TS]

00:04:21   movie theater as well [TS]

00:04:22   terrible terrible is not that not just [TS]

00:04:24   weeds finest hour or so it has a couple [TS]

00:04:26   good lines in it but is not a good after [TS]

00:04:29   earth by the way if you're wondering [TS]

00:04:29   directed directed by m night shyamalan [TS]

00:04:34   show the trailer makes no mention of [TS]

00:04:37   this know drew don't know but we'll get [TS]

00:04:39   to that man of steel drill bit [TS]

00:04:42   that's a Superman movie it's like the [TS]

00:04:44   sequel to Superman for the quest for [TS]

00:04:46   peace I believe or maybe not [TS]

00:04:50   and the Lone Ranger was late a late ad [TS]

00:04:53   and I just watch that trailer last night [TS]

00:04:55   and then John suggested we we have some [TS]

00:04:57   bonus credit by talking about a very [TS]

00:04:59   strange thing called upstream color [TS]

00:05:01   which will get to did you forget one [TS]

00:05:03   there are no other star trek into [TS]

00:05:04   darkness yes well it goes without saying [TS]

00:05:06   John and so I didn't actually even open [TS]

00:05:08   the tab because I don't even need to [TS]

00:05:09   look up who's in that I actually never [TS]

00:05:11   back is understood star trek into [TS]

00:05:13   darkness that goes without saying that's [TS]

00:05:14   why Scott is here [TS]

00:05:15   that's right is to talk about star trek [TS]

00:05:18   into darkness [TS]

00:05:18   I wish we started we start with Star [TS]

00:05:20   Trek fan since I forgot it [TS]

00:05:22   yes are all begins with Star Trek it [TS]

00:05:24   does it begins against the Babylon 5 [TS]

00:05:26   star trek especially by travelpod five [TS]

00:05:29   the finest of my favorite which they [TS]

00:05:30   make that into a movie so I star trek [TS]

00:05:34   into darkness which is a what the sequel [TS]

00:05:37   to the search removed from i think four [TS]

00:05:39   years ago it's been a little while now [TS]

00:05:40   and it's say the same group it's JJ [TS]

00:05:43   Abrams and his rebooted Star Trek cast [TS]

00:05:45   and of course we get to see in this in [TS]

00:05:47   this trailer [TS]

00:05:49   benedict cumberbatch i like to say his [TS]

00:05:52   name who is Sherlock from BBC sherlock [TS]

00:05:55   and he has an accent as you know you [TS]

00:05:58   would expect from an English actor and [TS]

00:06:00   and yet it seems for sinister now all of [TS]

00:06:02   a sudden when you're really picking up [TS]

00:06:04   on the sinister accent dissected framed [TS]

00:06:07   by friend by sinister I mean the he is [TS]

00:06:09   English and it makes you think he might [TS]

00:06:11   be a villain [TS]

00:06:12   i Justi narrating in the very beginning [TS]

00:06:14   of the trailer is that his 101 in the [TS]

00:06:17   world through screen the full trailer it [TS]

00:06:19   starts with Bruce Greenwoods Chris Pike [TS]

00:06:21   basically saying to Kirk you're you [TS]

00:06:23   you're overconfident you're going to get [TS]

00:06:25   your crew killed and then there's lots [TS]

00:06:26   of shots of of torment and horror and [TS]

00:06:29   aaron who starts the narration in the [TS]

00:06:30   second one [TS]

00:06:31   no that is the second one alright so we [TS]

00:06:34   started the narration in the first one [TS]

00:06:36   but it's just for Benedict Cumberbatch [TS]

00:06:37   and rights and duties are both trailers [TS]

00:06:39   but especially in the first might think [TS]

00:06:41   I swore that it was you know Jean Luc [TS]

00:06:44   Picard his voice to listen to it again [TS]

00:06:46   and see if you don't see Picard's pointy [TS]

00:06:48   bald head and in your mind I mean [TS]

00:06:49   eventually it stops and like I might [TS]

00:06:51   always see that at least every nine [TS]

00:06:53   minutes [TS]

00:06:53   incidentally don't confuse bruce [TS]

00:06:55   greenwood Chris Pike with chris pine's [TS]

00:06:57   James Kirk because that could get [TS]

00:06:59   confusing [TS]

00:07:00   okay well yeah I can see later on that [TS]

00:07:02   doesn't sound like the car [TS]

00:07:03   not anymore but in the beginning it [TS]

00:07:05   totally sounds like the car and was [TS]

00:07:06   throwing me off [TS]

00:07:07   I don't think it does say I think you're [TS]

00:07:09   a line must be drawn here [TS]

00:07:11   not that part and I like this trailer [TS]

00:07:15   because when I think Star Trek I think [TS]

00:07:16   CGI and lots of brooding and red plants [TS]

00:07:20   lots of red rants and running i have a [TS]

00:07:22   couple of issues with a star trek into [TS]

00:07:24   darkness [TS]

00:07:25   I must admit laying on a Scot it starts [TS]

00:07:28   off with the missing colon in the title [TS]

00:07:31   it amazes me that is perfectly into [TS]

00:07:33   darkness deliberately avoided poulin I [TS]

00:07:36   know but I find it incredibly annoying [TS]

00:07:38   it's not really missing it's been it's [TS]

00:07:41   been removed mysterious there's no need [TS]

00:07:43   for a colon this is a star trek into [TS]

00:07:45   darkness you're tracking into darkness [TS]

00:07:48   got the trekking into darkness yes I [TS]

00:07:50   don't like it [TS]

00:07:51   the whole story is about how Benedict [TS]

00:07:53   Cumberbatch deals punctuation [TS]

00:07:54   ok that's Star Trek would suggest [TS]

00:07:57   checking into light generally but [TS]

00:08:00   there's a lot of darkness in between the [TS]

00:08:01   stars is it dark students a dark star [TS]

00:08:04   dark stone that is cracked it [TS]

00:08:06   no its star trek into darkness there's a [TS]

00:08:09   lot of darkness and space between the [TS]

00:08:11   stars thousand Star Trek fan websites [TS]

00:08:14   have not figured it out in one stroke [TS]

00:08:15   we've got it [TS]

00:08:16   it's a dark star that's right track [TS]

00:08:19   movie got there and check it out Humber [TS]

00:08:21   batch is playing a darkest time I feel [TS]

00:08:23   like in the movie title could use [TS]

00:08:24   parentheses to indicate better get [TS]

00:08:27   precedence because we don't know it's [TS]

00:08:29   our tracking darkness or star trek into [TS]

00:08:31   darkness is usually some a comma [TS]

00:08:33   somewhere as well if it's you know star [TS]

00:08:35   trek into into darkness about an [TS]

00:08:38   interrobang would be good starting older [TS]

00:08:41   yes yes [TS]

00:08:44   wow I still stand by my assertion it [TS]

00:08:48   requires a colon and it makes me angry [TS]

00:08:50   that it's not there [TS]

00:08:50   so Scott do you have do you have non [TS]

00:08:53   punctuation related have complaints [TS]

00:08:54   about the trailer [TS]

00:08:55   ah I to punctuation very seriously I [TS]

00:08:58   when I was in college I was a TA for [TS]

00:09:01   creative writing class and i spent like [TS]

00:09:02   two hours talking to these writers about [TS]

00:09:04   how a punctuation was important [TS]

00:09:07   and I think they want to kill me at the [TS]

00:09:08   end of it but I also i don't like the [TS]

00:09:10   fact that the enterprise apparently is a [TS]

00:09:13   submarine now [TS]

00:09:14   yes it is it was in water i don't think [TS]

00:09:16   that was on purpose it's based on James [TS]

00:09:19   Bond's car [TS]

00:09:20   well wasn't it basically submarine [TS]

00:09:22   battle that was going on in the middle [TS]

00:09:24   of Wrath of Khan when they're so it was [TS]

00:09:26   it was it was they weren't actually in [TS]

00:09:28   water the trailer the enterprise's like [TS]

00:09:30   down in the water at one hour and it [TS]

00:09:32   comes out its it that I couldn't really [TS]

00:09:34   keep track of what was happening in the [TS]

00:09:36   trailer it was to jump Cudi and yeah why [TS]

00:09:38   do I always jumping off of tall things I [TS]

00:09:40   mean they did the sort of outer [TS]

00:09:42   atmosphere insertion because the [TS]

00:09:44   transporters were conveniently offline [TS]

00:09:46   and then the first reboot movie right [TS]

00:09:47   now the jumping on anything high they [TS]

00:09:49   see you let's go jump off of Butch and [TS]

00:09:50   Sundance then going on in the future [TS]

00:09:52   that's how you get places fun [TS]

00:09:54   yeah Johnny's Jim what did he did you [TS]

00:09:56   not see the guy jumping blues like two [TS]

00:09:59   months ago [TS]

00:10:00   it's already started there are guys at [TS]

00:10:03   high up in a little suit jumping off and [TS]

00:10:05   landing on the earth it is just waiting [TS]

00:10:07   to feed 2013 is the year of the guy in [TS]

00:10:10   the suit jumping off of a platform and [TS]

00:10:12   landing on the ground everybody's gonna [TS]

00:10:13   be doing it I mean no one's gonna be [TS]

00:10:15   doing because the world will have ended [TS]

00:10:16   but if we survive it will be because of [TS]

00:10:20   the men in suits jumping from high [TS]

00:10:22   altitude settings [TS]

00:10:23   I'm not such a big star trek fan then I [TS]

00:10:25   haven't been keeping up with all the [TS]

00:10:26   Star Trek fan boards but it is a river [TS]

00:10:28   is everyone going crazy over the parent [TS]

00:10:31   dommage to yes Spock dying yes behind [TS]

00:10:35   the glass ceiling [TS]

00:10:36   yes everyone was everyone who was not [TS]

00:10:37   already crazy is now going that's now [TS]

00:10:39   God and say here's the problem with that [TS]

00:10:42   is that wrath of khan had three seasons [TS]

00:10:44   of TV episodes and years of nostalgia [TS]

00:10:47   built up in the interim 44 that to [TS]

00:10:50   actually have some emotional heft and [TS]

00:10:52   this has one dumb Abrams me know I know [TS]

00:10:54   it has all the same television episodes [TS]

00:10:57   plus the original time that they did in [TS]

00:10:58   the other movie another get you know I [TS]

00:11:00   assume it mr. I think it's okay i think [TS]

00:11:02   it's a fake-out I think that isn't [TS]

00:11:03   anything from from JJ Abrams is that [TS]

00:11:06   that you know they would they they made [TS]

00:11:09   sure of exactly what they disclosed in [TS]

00:11:10   all of these trailers and they knew that [TS]

00:11:12   they would be there would be shot by [TS]

00:11:13   shot analysis and I'm sure that that [TS]

00:11:15   shot is an homage to star trek to with [TS]

00:11:19   the two hands what we're talking about [TS]

00:11:20   is [TS]

00:11:20   so like a hand with a blue shirt on one [TS]

00:11:24   side of a a pane of glass and a hand [TS]

00:11:27   with a black shirt on the other side and [TS]

00:11:28   then and sort of try to touch each other [TS]

00:11:30   just like when Spock is dying inside [TS]

00:11:32   attraction when he knows the law and [TS]

00:11:33   prosper yeah but I don't think I think [TS]

00:11:35   it's a fake-out I think that's not what [TS]

00:11:36   we're seeing as i'm i'm not even sure [TS]

00:11:38   this is actually a star trek movie [TS]

00:11:39   I mean there's no way that they're [TS]

00:11:41   killing one of the main the AI wouldn't [TS]

00:11:43   surprise me if like Chekhov dies or [TS]

00:11:44   something but I don't is actually the [TS]

00:11:46   second into darkness film star trek is [TS]

00:11:49   it sort of the second title right before [TS]

00:11:51   the way the air as long as we're talking [TS]

00:11:52   shop by shop right down to anybody [TS]

00:11:54   noticed that check out his brain around [TS]

00:11:55   color shirt [TS]

00:11:56   well maybe resin quote maybe read his [TS]

00:11:59   color but that's why I said check out my [TS]

00:12:01   die [TS]

00:12:01   yeah he's ready to wear your red shirt [TS]

00:12:03   it's a bad sign me he's Russian [TS]

00:12:06   it's a Soviet CD or the other I the [TS]

00:12:09   other friends who think I'm assuming is [TS]

00:12:11   trying to guess who Cumberbatch's yes it [TS]

00:12:13   was going about their you always his con [TS]

00:12:15   and always not Connor he's just I mean I [TS]

00:12:17   assume I again I assume that's a real [TS]

00:12:19   misdirect to he's not going to be calm [TS]

00:12:21   when they get my name John Harrison [TS]

00:12:23   Harrison who is the name of a recurring [TS]

00:12:25   red shirt which does not seem like it [TS]

00:12:26   should be an actual no I i think there's [TS]

00:12:29   maybe a little bit of a fake out there I [TS]

00:12:31   wouldn't be surprised if there's a hurry [TS]

00:12:33   very clever like continuity twist here [TS]

00:12:35   but it's probably not what what what [TS]

00:12:37   fans expect right [TS]

00:12:39   oh man this would be great if he was the [TS]

00:12:40   red shirt who got off to every single [TS]

00:12:42   episode now he's back to have vengeance [TS]

00:12:43   on Curtis is why do you keep letting me [TS]

00:12:45   die [TS]

00:12:46   what a strange world we live in now [TS]

00:12:47   where the movie trailer deliberately [TS]

00:12:49   lies about the film [TS]

00:12:51   well I mean it's a strange world when we [TS]

00:12:52   spend this much time to sector at least [TS]

00:12:54   misleads Steve Steve yes I yes I don't [TS]

00:12:58   movie trailers have always mislead the [TS]

00:13:00   audience and i remember there are lots [TS]

00:13:03   of movie trailers that show scenes that [TS]

00:13:04   end up not in the movie there [TS]

00:13:07   I mean and then they do mislead right in [TS]

00:13:10   the difference the difference is that [TS]

00:13:12   that now trailers for some of the stuff [TS]

00:13:14   like Star Trek they know what scrutiny [TS]

00:13:16   fans are going to give it now they can [TS]

00:13:18   talk to each other on the internet about [TS]

00:13:19   it and so they're they're like trying to [TS]

00:13:21   control the disclosure a little bit more [TS]

00:13:23   but I think it's more about not [TS]

00:13:25   releasing secrets than it is about lying [TS]

00:13:28   about what the movies about I kind of [TS]

00:13:29   enjoyed that makes into a game yeah I [TS]

00:13:31   prefer that to the other one other one [TS]

00:13:33   where [TS]

00:13:33   the non nerd movies giveaway every [TS]

00:13:35   single one point like if it's like [TS]

00:13:37   random action movie with guys with guns [TS]

00:13:39   they just give away everything in the [TS]

00:13:40   whole comedy every funny lines going to [TS]

00:13:42   be in the trailer like you know where at [TS]

00:13:43   least in sci-fi movies they're they're [TS]

00:13:45   holding stuff back [TS]

00:13:46   well i can tell from this that I mean [TS]

00:13:48   star trek the opening to the into [TS]

00:13:50   darkness trailer you hear bruce [TS]

00:13:52   greenwood say you're going to get your [TS]

00:13:53   crew killed and you see Kirk you know [TS]

00:13:55   running through the jungle with mccoy [TS]

00:13:56   and they jump off the cliff and the [TS]

00:13:58   enterprise's underwater and their [TS]

00:14:00   genotype Pinker's coffins and flag right [TS]

00:14:02   well so the coffins if you look at if if [TS]

00:14:05   you were the kind of person who would [TS]

00:14:06   pause the quicktime movie and carefully [TS]

00:14:09   analyzed seen by saying on the most [TS]

00:14:10   would do that if you might notice that [TS]

00:14:12   the coffins are like cryo chamber is [TS]

00:14:14   there like there's ice into the in the [TS]

00:14:16   window besides which who would build a [TS]

00:14:18   window in a coffin [TS]

00:14:20   so you could look at what we bury you [TS]

00:14:21   right so you can see her so you can show [TS]

00:14:23   who's in it before you shoot out of your [TS]

00:14:25   spaceship and so is that one stream the [TS]

00:14:27   face of God when you go into the middle [TS]

00:14:29   of the galaxy so so it's you know but [TS]

00:14:31   but in the if you're not the kind of [TS]

00:14:33   person who freeze frames it just it [TS]

00:14:35   suggestion because there's a missing man [TS]

00:14:37   formation kind of fly over and there's a [TS]

00:14:39   folding of a flag and then they show [TS]

00:14:40   those tubes and it's like you got lots [TS]

00:14:43   of people killed and you know i'm pretty [TS]

00:14:45   sure that's not what that shot actually [TS]

00:14:46   is used as in the movie but it serves a [TS]

00:14:49   different purpose in the trailer to make [TS]

00:14:51   the story arc here really like Kirk [TS]

00:14:53   you're overconfident you're gonna be in [TS]

00:14:54   trouble and then the other part is [TS]

00:14:56   Benedict Cumberbatch saying i will have [TS]

00:14:59   my vengeance and that's your ass and [TS]

00:15:03   collecting was with that Patrick Stewart [TS]

00:15:05   I just heard i'm telling you listen I [TS]

00:15:07   line must be drawn here but I give extra [TS]

00:15:11   credit to the blonde screaming girl [TS]

00:15:13   who's on camera okay and you get to see [TS]

00:15:15   here [TS]

00:15:15   inhale look directly into the camera now [TS]

00:15:18   do your big screen that you're horrified [TS]

00:15:20   it's like the most sort of [TS]

00:15:22   over-exaggerated theatrical parody of a [TS]

00:15:27   woman looking into the camera and [TS]

00:15:28   screaming but it's so good i think it [TS]

00:15:30   wraps around the other side it becomes [TS]

00:15:31   like so bad it's good to very Linda it's [TS]

00:15:35   very it's very James type shot someone's [TS]

00:15:38   got an animated gif out there of that by [TS]

00:15:39   the way but it's just you can just watch [TS]

00:15:41   your scream over and over again poor [TS]

00:15:43   Alice Eve unless you think the lens [TS]

00:15:45   flares were going away there's [TS]

00:15:47   no there don't worry and there and the [TS]

00:15:49   rumor is that she's playing dr. Carol [TS]

00:15:51   Marcus was of course the mother of [TS]

00:15:53   Kirk's child and star trek to but I mean [TS]

00:15:56   not just universe maybe not know it's a [TS]

00:15:58   diversion timeline is as as we learned [TS]

00:16:01   i'm excited about this because I really [TS]

00:16:04   did like the the first JJ Abrams Star [TS]

00:16:06   Trek movie and I like the cast and [TS]

00:16:08   Benedict Cumberbatch is great and again [TS]

00:16:11   Benedict Cumberbatch so I just have to [TS]

00:16:13   say and dick Cumberbatch chandan [TS]

00:16:16   Cumberbatch Cumberbatch yeah there is [TS]

00:16:18   lens flare in this trailer so we know we [TS]

00:16:20   know that that is gonna going to stay [TS]

00:16:22   there [TS]

00:16:22   so are you worried Jason that too much [TS]

00:16:25   of this movie will take place not in [TS]

00:16:27   space [TS]

00:16:28   I I never felt I I've seen see are you [TS]

00:16:32   sure you haven't been on the on the fan [TS]

00:16:34   sites for Star Trek because this is one [TS]

00:16:36   of those complaints that I saw in the [TS]

00:16:38   message thread it at trek movie com [TS]

00:16:41   where they did the scene by scene [TS]

00:16:42   analysis the JFK style back into the [TS]

00:16:44   left back and to the left of the of the [TS]

00:16:48   trailer the crim criminology of the star [TS]

00:16:50   trek trailer there are people like I'm [TS]

00:16:53   tired [TS]

00:16:53   doctor who fans do this to dads I don't [TS]

00:16:55   I want to see space i don't wanna see [TS]

00:16:57   planets I wanted to outer space iCarly [TS]

00:17:00   you want to see the enterprise in space [TS]

00:17:02   fighting space but it's in water instead [TS]

00:17:04   you don't want to see the enterprise in [TS]

00:17:06   what the enterprise is in space in this [TS]

00:17:08   trailer and does n is is getting blasted [TS]

00:17:10   I mean you can't tell what the ratios [TS]

00:17:12   are going to be from the trailer but I [TS]

00:17:13   like I can take some amount of them [TS]

00:17:16   running around an alien planets and [TS]

00:17:17   jumping off buildings but i wanted i [TS]

00:17:19   would rather have more of it be about [TS]

00:17:21   flying around in ya face where they're [TS]

00:17:23   supposed to supposed to be a spaceship [TS]

00:17:24   show [TS]

00:17:25   well but the vast majority of the [TS]

00:17:26   original series there on the biggest [TS]

00:17:29   race just because that model is very [TS]

00:17:30   fragile and they make the strings that [TS]

00:17:32   held the break I think Abrams is smart [TS]

00:17:34   enough to know that the enterprise in [TS]

00:17:36   and of itself is kind of a character so [TS]

00:17:38   you know in the way that something like [TS]

00:17:40   the Millennium Falcon is so I mean I [TS]

00:17:42   think that the the illuminating shot as [TS]

00:17:43   far as that goes in the trailer is the [TS]

00:17:45   zoom in over the bridge would like the [TS]

00:17:46   empty seats and everything like that [TS]

00:17:47   right i don't think i'm not too worried [TS]

00:17:49   about it so I I actually you know in the [TS]

00:17:52   the imax version of The Hobbit [TS]

00:17:53   apparently has a nine-minute the opening [TS]

00:17:56   scene of star trek into darkness in it [TS]

00:17:58   and in that scene [TS]

00:18:00   you know when they're running through [TS]

00:18:01   the red stuff on that planet and jumping [TS]

00:18:03   off the cliff I mean that's basically [TS]

00:18:04   how the movie opens yeah it looks like a [TS]

00:18:07   James Bond opening yeah but the idea is [TS]

00:18:09   right it's like it's like a star TV [TS]

00:18:11   series when we rejoin these people who [TS]

00:18:13   we last saw on that first movie they're [TS]

00:18:15   on a mission it's a star trek episode [TS]

00:18:17   right there in the middle of a dangerous [TS]

00:18:18   mission on a planet and so you get some [TS]

00:18:20   of that kind of feel of like this is [TS]

00:18:22   what they do they're doing their their [TS]

00:18:24   adventures that they have and then the [TS]

00:18:26   plot kicks into gear at some point and [TS]

00:18:29   then it's the cold open [TS]

00:18:31   yeah exactly exactly my main worry for [TS]

00:18:33   this and it's going to come up in the [TS]

00:18:34   other trailers as well as that a lot of [TS]

00:18:36   these franchises I feel like recently [TS]

00:18:38   have lost their way when it comes to the [TS]

00:18:42   antagonist like yeah whatever the threat [TS]

00:18:45   like they're good at establishing the [TS]

00:18:46   characters and having interesting stuff [TS]

00:18:48   them to do with into some point there's [TS]

00:18:49   some sort of existential threat to the [TS]

00:18:51   earth to the crew to whatever you know [TS]

00:18:53   the the main bad guy thing and they're [TS]

00:18:55   stuck in a rut of like the single man [TS]

00:18:57   seeking revenge or just like something [TS]

00:19:00   done that doesn't fit with the series [TS]

00:19:02   like he wants to you know get all the [TS]

00:19:03   gold in the world like wait is it our [TS]

00:19:05   track you know that's where these movies [TS]

00:19:07   fall down they get everything else so [TS]

00:19:08   right and they just can it is difficult [TS]

00:19:10   to come up with like what's gonna happen [TS]

00:19:12   to the start guys mess they have to save [TS]

00:19:14   the universe again I mean it in some [TS]

00:19:15   respects at the television series had [TS]

00:19:17   easier because like you know if you're [TS]

00:19:19   out of ideas you can throw in a couple [TS]

00:19:20   of Q episode is something our next [TS]

00:19:22   generation and give yourself some [TS]

00:19:23   breathing room but the movie they get [TS]

00:19:24   one shot [TS]

00:19:25   what is the bad guy in the movie what is [TS]

00:19:27   the threat and it better not be done or [TS]

00:19:29   we get sad like if I like be the first [TS]

00:19:31   reboot star trek movie but the bad guy [TS]

00:19:33   was like the worst you knew he was he [TS]

00:19:35   was the worst because he was i made this [TS]

00:19:37   comment when the when the first teaser [TS]

00:19:38   came out which is I'm not sure every [TS]

00:19:41   star trek movie plot has to be one man [TS]

00:19:43   seeking vengeance which is at least [TS]

00:19:45   what's implied here and there was a you [TS]

00:19:48   know in the cumberbatch voiceover and [TS]

00:19:50   also in the little synopsis that they at [TS]

00:19:51   the studio released it's sort of like [TS]

00:19:53   he's you know he's seeking he's seeking [TS]

00:19:55   his vengeance and and really you know [TS]

00:19:57   hopefully how many of these single guy [TS]

00:20:00   who is very angry because Nero in the [TS]

00:20:02   original JJ Abrams Star Trek was you [TS]

00:20:07   know he was very angry and there was a [TS]

00:20:09   really boring reason why he was angry [TS]

00:20:11   but it's see [TS]

00:20:13   it would he was not that interesting and [TS]

00:20:14   I got blown up so dog and and these [TS]

00:20:18   enemies loan guys always have the [TS]

00:20:19   ability to orchestrate the entire [TS]

00:20:21   universe [TS]

00:20:22   oh yeah around like that you've got you [TS]

00:20:23   know Starfleet the entire Starfleet and [TS]

00:20:25   the crew the best crew of the best ship [TS]

00:20:27   and then this one guys have like no you [TS]

00:20:29   don't understand i 5 plans at all ahead [TS]

00:20:31   of time and I've made it such that my [TS]

00:20:33   one person in my two years of planning [TS]

00:20:34   is now going to support your entire you [TS]

00:20:36   know Starfleet de [TS]

00:20:39   army of ships or whatever you like some [TS]

00:20:41   this thing you know somehow Nero's one [TS]

00:20:43   guy wanted to send out a million ships [TS]

00:20:45   and blow up no actually he blues all of [TS]

00:20:46   you up be slightly from the future and [TS]

00:20:48   weapons are little better and that tips [TS]

00:20:50   the balance likes you have how can you [TS]

00:20:51   make him scary like that's like the [TS]

00:20:53   wrath of khan work kind of this because [TS]

00:20:54   it was more of a personal vendetta [TS]

00:20:57   thinking about you know he doesn't care [TS]

00:20:58   about he's not trying to take over the [TS]

00:20:59   university just want revenge on on on [TS]

00:21:01   Kirk right and so least the stakes are [TS]

00:21:03   smaller but I get the feeling this guy's [TS]

00:21:05   like I want to blow up the world and you [TS]

00:21:07   can't stop me or something that that's [TS]

00:21:09   that's the thing that worries me the [TS]

00:21:10   most about this movie as much as I love [TS]

00:21:13   small good Sherlock well I mean I i [TS]

00:21:16   don't know i think i think i mean there [TS]

00:21:17   is I think obviously there's the [TS]

00:21:18   Vengeance aspect of it does seem to me [TS]

00:21:20   like they're trying to make it a little [TS]

00:21:21   more personal based on based on the [TS]

00:21:23   little i've read from the synopses and [TS]

00:21:25   stuff like that which which makes sense [TS]

00:21:26   because i think if you follow sort of [TS]

00:21:28   what JJ Abrams did with the first Star [TS]

00:21:30   Trek movie it was very much a more [TS]

00:21:32   personal show in area or more personal [TS]

00:21:35   story in the way that a lot of the [TS]

00:21:36   classic episodes are much more cerebral [TS]

00:21:39   and sort of like sign you know science [TS]

00:21:41   fiction from that age where it's like [TS]

00:21:43   here's an interesting like more whole [TS]

00:21:45   societal question that we're going to [TS]

00:21:47   delve into but i think you know JJ [TS]

00:21:50   Abrams is clearly i think he was [TS]

00:21:52   influenced a lot by things like Star [TS]

00:21:53   Wars which are you know have a more [TS]

00:21:55   personal arc to a lot of their stories i [TS]

00:21:57   think then you know the star trek movies [TS]

00:21:59   i think no more in that direction as [TS]

00:22:00   well they tend to be much more about the [TS]

00:22:01   characters and about personal stories [TS]

00:22:03   for those characters hour or about space [TS]

00:22:06   probe showing up and really being like [TS]

00:22:07   what up earth if we're going to screw up [TS]

00:22:09   yeah but what about what has chris [TS]

00:22:12   pine's Kirk done to to justify vengeance [TS]

00:22:15   by me Spock fine Spock was you know how [TS]

00:22:17   to hold seven eight movies whatever [TS]

00:22:19   stuff and then you go back in time with [TS]

00:22:21   young one but who is so mad at Kirk [TS]

00:22:23   already that he's kind of like blow up [TS]

00:22:25   the entire universe [TS]

00:22:26   to get in my cheating on that test and [TS]

00:22:28   everything one of the one of the [TS]

00:22:30   suggestions right at least the trailer [TS]

00:22:31   suggesting that he he gets you know he [TS]

00:22:33   gets people killed and that might be a [TS]

00:22:35   motivation for it but it may be that [TS]

00:22:37   he's not out for vengeance against Kirk [TS]

00:22:39   he's out for vengeance against the [TS]

00:22:42   Federation or something like that that's [TS]

00:22:44   a little less personal 22 Kirk Kirk just [TS]

00:22:48   ends up having to be the you know [TS]

00:22:49   they're the only ship in the quadrant or [TS]

00:22:51   whatever because it's always only them [TS]

00:22:52   who can stop the this funny how that it [TS]

00:22:55   makes the board's motivation you know [TS]

00:22:57   sound like high-minded and crystal-clear [TS]

00:22:59   it's like one of the bar great do with [TS]

00:23:01   the Borg do and but you know you don't [TS]

00:23:03   look everything over right like it's in [TS]

00:23:05   their nature but the people it's like [TS]

00:23:06   you know you killed my father prepare to [TS]

00:23:08   die he's got some kind of personal [TS]

00:23:09   motivation it's making them a chase [TS]

00:23:12   after this youngstarr fee click crew [TS]

00:23:14   I don't know who were pissed them off in [TS]

00:23:18   a transmission one day she was [TS]

00:23:20   translated so she closed the hailing [TS]

00:23:22   frequencies and they're really bird now [TS]

00:23:26   i have not seen either i've not seen the [TS]

00:23:28   first Star Trek film how many times does [TS]

00:23:30   chris pine lose his shirt you know he [TS]

00:23:33   doesn't lose his shirt [TS]

00:23:35   this is an alternate universe but yes it [TS]

00:23:37   is well they changed the timeline and [TS]

00:23:38   now he keeps the shirt on a little bit [TS]

00:23:40   more [TS]

00:23:40   although he does do some some of the [TS]

00:23:42   fist fighting that are that's that you [TS]

00:23:44   know slightly Shatner argo tea still the [TS]

00:23:47   sign of ultimate evil in this new [TS]

00:23:49   universe to be dead i think that's a [TS]

00:23:51   spoiler i think that's to be determined [TS]

00:23:52   we were not treated we don't know you [TS]

00:23:55   should watch the the rebooted Star Trek [TS]

00:23:57   its side it's fun it's fun [TS]

00:24:00   that's I think that's oh yeah a good [TS]

00:24:02   movie it's funny but that's exactly the [TS]

00:24:04   thing that they said in the trailers for [TS]

00:24:05   star trek the movie and that was an [TS]

00:24:08   ongoing not fun and I want to go on [TS]

00:24:10   note note Scott little room as a kid [TS]

00:24:12   that says yeah it's fun and that's all [TS]

00:24:15   he has to say about the film and as he [TS]

00:24:17   stares off into the middle distance [TS]

00:24:18   exactly right [TS]

00:24:19   that's fine fun yeah whatever can I go [TS]

00:24:22   home can you give me my 10 bucks now [TS]

00:24:23   it's fun there were lights and stuff [TS]

00:24:26   no it's good it's it's it's a difficult [TS]

00:24:28   job i ate it was really nice to see [TS]

00:24:30   because i want to do a whole episode [TS]

00:24:33   about that maybe as we get closer to the [TS]

00:24:36   colon being inserted into into darkness [TS]

00:24:39   so that [TS]

00:24:40   hello yeah I know colon insertion so one [TS]

00:24:43   of the one of the nice things about the [TS]

00:24:44   JJ Abrams reboot is that you know we [TS]

00:24:46   haven't seen these characters in their [TS]

00:24:48   prime since you know since before never [TS]

00:24:51   all born right it was since the sixties [TS]

00:24:53   before America was in its prime they [TS]

00:24:56   were already pretty doughy and punchy by [TS]

00:24:58   the time we encountered them in TOS yeah [TS]

00:25:00   and and then the movie series is all [TS]

00:25:02   about them getting old I mean it was [TS]

00:25:03   really like those with the themes was [TS]

00:25:05   them getting old so to see and you know [TS]

00:25:08   in the in recent incomparable i [TS]

00:25:10   complained about how superhero movies [TS]

00:25:11   are always about origin stories [TS]

00:25:14   what is fun about star track is that it [TS]

00:25:17   was an origin story we actually hadn't [TS]

00:25:18   seen before we you know we never seen [TS]

00:25:21   the young crew of the enterprise meeting [TS]

00:25:23   for the first time and it kind of really [TS]

00:25:25   i mean we work for me it really [TS]

00:25:27   reinvigorated it even though yeah eric [TS]

00:25:29   bana is kind of boring as the villain [TS]

00:25:32   whose motivation is at what at the same [TS]

00:25:36   time obscure and also kind of [TS]

00:25:38   ridiculously simple you blow my planet [TS]

00:25:40   now I will kill everybody [TS]

00:25:42   ok whatever i have a ship i have a [TS]

00:25:45   mining ship that also has lots of [TS]

00:25:47   weapons because in the future [TS]

00:25:48   mining is really dangerous and you need [TS]

00:25:50   super weapons in order to mine things [TS]

00:25:54   you want to get things out of the ground [TS]

00:25:55   Jason it's best to do so from space if [TS]

00:25:58   the miners from the Alien films had had [TS]

00:26:00   superweapons things would have gone [TS]

00:26:01   differently [TS]

00:26:02   yeah so maybe there's something to that [TS]

00:26:04   yeah Nero mining company are we sure [TS]

00:26:07   this movie isn't actually an alien [TS]

00:26:08   prequel could hardly be worse than the [TS]

00:26:12   other alien prequel Damon Lindelof did [TS]

00:26:15   write the screenplay with the guys who [TS]

00:26:17   did it last time so he you know the man [TS]

00:26:19   responsible for prometheus is partially [TS]

00:26:22   redundant best to ruin every cherished [TS]

00:26:24   franchise it is possible get a month get [TS]

00:26:27   them on the Star Wars any other thoughts [TS]

00:26:29   about Star Trek before we move on [TS]

00:26:33   looking forward to it yeah me too me too [TS]

00:26:36   I'll see it [TS]

00:26:37   ok contrast think he's got your very [TS]

00:26:41   well it got my must I contractually [TS]

00:26:44   obligated to see well then I'll start [TS]

00:26:46   into darkness you've scored one [TS]

00:26:47   reluctant viewer Scott's gonna run up to [TS]

00:26:49   the front of the the screening [TS]

00:26:51   and and pencil in Colin's when the title [TS]

00:26:54   comes on right so sir please sit down [TS]

00:26:57   yeah don't write on the screen I let's [TS]

00:27:00   talk about man of steel the the superman [TS]

00:27:04   reboot because the last Superman movie [TS]

00:27:07   superman returns was essentially a [TS]

00:27:09   sequel to Super Man 2 and it didn't do [TS]

00:27:14   well enough for them to continue down [TS]

00:27:16   that path so they've got they've got [TS]

00:27:19   Zack Snyder director of watch men ate [TS]

00:27:22   the much-beloved watch men nobody didn't [TS]

00:27:25   like that movie don't mention that I and [TS]

00:27:27   I and actually yes that's true it was it [TS]

00:27:32   let's take its controversial not not [TS]

00:27:34   widely loved we might all agree on one [TS]

00:27:36   thing which is it was a it was a great [TS]

00:27:38   look in movie [TS]

00:27:39   yes it was any makes grants trail movies [TS]

00:27:41   that look great as trailers we also have [TS]

00:27:43   to do is zack snyder director of the [TS]

00:27:45   opening five minutes of watching yeah [TS]

00:27:47   exactly and and produced by christopher [TS]

00:27:51   nolan and screenplay a David Goyer has a [TS]

00:27:54   screenplay credit so there's some [TS]

00:27:55   interesting people involved with this [TS]

00:27:57   movie and it is a speaking of [TS]

00:28:01   superheroes with origin stories there [TS]

00:28:03   are a big part of this trailer that are [TS]

00:28:05   you know young Clark lifts a bus out of [TS]

00:28:09   the river and his dad Kevin Costner [TS]

00:28:12   tells him that if he builds it no that's [TS]

00:28:15   not what he tells me tells me tells him [TS]

00:28:17   maybe he shouldn't have saved those kids [TS]

00:28:18   and he should stay hidden [TS]

00:28:20   uh-huh but he goes to you know and you [TS]

00:28:23   know he goes to the the Arctic and he [TS]

00:28:25   puts on a big red tape as you do again [TS]

00:28:28   with the brooding I mean we had Batman [TS]

00:28:29   Begins and here we have Superman mopes [TS]

00:28:32   I've heard Jason's complained about the [TS]

00:28:35   origin story thing and I I mean maybe [TS]

00:28:37   it's because I don't read any comics [TS]

00:28:39   don't know anything about this but that [TS]

00:28:40   is the maybe the only thing that's [TS]

00:28:43   interesting to Superman to me about [TS]

00:28:45   Superman is not so much the origin [TS]

00:28:48   stories of how they become Superman but [TS]

00:28:50   the origin of how does he decide and [TS]

00:28:51   growing up as a kid but superpowers to [TS]

00:28:53   what he's going to do with this life [TS]

00:28:54   because once you make that decision then [TS]

00:28:57   you're back into the point we have to [TS]

00:28:58   say all right what can we do that we [TS]

00:29:00   have to involve crip kryptonite I guess [TS]

00:29:02   we have to throw Lex Luthor [TS]

00:29:04   members like you have to throw something [TS]

00:29:05   at Superman as the antagonist sense it's [TS]

00:29:07   me you can't do that for I don't make [TS]

00:29:09   one good movie out of that John you [TS]

00:29:11   would really love the 10 seasons of [TS]

00:29:13   smallville then those are just made for [TS]

00:29:14   you yeah well because i know i don't [TS]

00:29:16   like that don't like saying hey we got [TS]

00:29:17   Superman and he's way overpowered and we [TS]

00:29:19   have to put something in there too for [TS]

00:29:21   there to be parallel so like we can have [TS]

00:29:22   a romantic relationship being parallel [TS]

00:29:24   you have the earth being paralyzed much [TS]

00:29:26   rather see him figuring out like and you [TS]

00:29:28   can only do this once i hope this is a [TS]

00:29:29   good movie average pressure to see him [TS]

00:29:31   growing up in figuring out i have these [TS]

00:29:33   superpowers what does that mean for me [TS]

00:29:35   is the person what what do i do with my [TS]

00:29:37   life to hide them do i use them for good [TS]

00:29:39   do I keep out of it do it people hate me [TS]

00:29:41   do people like me because the emotional [TS]

00:29:43   stakes of like his ego as you know not [TS]

00:29:48   wanting to feel alien and not wanting [TS]

00:29:49   people to dislike him but also thinking [TS]

00:29:51   has a responsibility to help people and [TS]

00:29:53   all the events along the way where he [TS]

00:29:54   makes good or bad decisions about using [TS]

00:29:56   his powers are not using that's like the [TS]

00:29:57   only thing that's interesting about [TS]

00:29:59   Superman for me so I that I want to see [TS]

00:30:01   this movie I love this trailer i think [TS]

00:30:03   like us on twitter i think this trailer [TS]

00:30:05   is way better than this movie is going [TS]

00:30:06   to be which is making that but i really [TS]

00:30:09   love this trailer hit all the right [TS]

00:30:11   notes for me it just looking you know it [TS]

00:30:13   looks fantastic [TS]

00:30:14   all the things i said this trailer the [TS]

00:30:15   things i like about Superman so [TS]

00:30:17   obviously you feel different maybe [TS]

00:30:19   having read like origin stories a [TS]

00:30:21   hundred times and maybe maybe you're [TS]

00:30:22   recognizing the exact events these are [TS]

00:30:24   pulled from the comic books and it's [TS]

00:30:25   killing it for you but it's not knowing [TS]

00:30:27   if Superman's origin is more interesting [TS]

00:30:29   than most of the heroes origins and i [TS]

00:30:30   have to say as somebody who's not a huge [TS]

00:30:32   Superman fan i think his origin is is in [TS]

00:30:34   many ways more interesting than once [TS]

00:30:37   he's just all powerful right and that's [TS]

00:30:39   why smallville mind a lot out of him [TS]

00:30:42   learning to deal with his powers because [TS]

00:30:44   those are interesting [TS]

00:30:45   Superman stories and and and you know [TS]

00:30:48   it's a lot less interesting to tell the [TS]

00:30:50   Batman origin again which is that his [TS]

00:30:52   parents died and then he was really mad [TS]

00:30:53   for a while and then he made some props [TS]

00:30:57   and stuff batman begins to still the [TS]

00:30:58   best movie because i didn't know his [TS]

00:31:00   like how does he decide what to do with [TS]

00:31:01   the same kind of what this is about [TS]

00:31:03   isn't it [TS]

00:31:04   his parents Superman's parents dying in [TS]

00:31:06   a planetary explosion yes it's true and [TS]

00:31:08   in here he seems kind of mad he seems [TS]

00:31:10   more like emo LOL then he's emo about [TS]

00:31:15   about what he's easy about being the [TS]

00:31:17   weird [TS]

00:31:17   kid on the new grocery you never knew [TS]

00:31:19   what she was really works on a boat is [TS]

00:31:21   like the longshoremen of steel [TS]

00:31:22   I don't know it for Batman has been [TS]

00:31:24   about about brooding and and darkness [TS]

00:31:27   for a while now Superman has always been [TS]

00:31:29   kind of more light for me so it's it's [TS]

00:31:32   weird to see this trying to be squeezed [TS]

00:31:34   into that that round hole if he's [TS]

00:31:36   invulnerable how can you shave that [TS]

00:31:37   beard that he grows he uses lasers [TS]

00:31:39   kryptonite raises his own laser vision [TS]

00:31:42   to show you did you did you never yet [TS]

00:31:44   you never watched Lois and Clark I did [TS]

00:31:46   actually have a little mirror and uses [TS]

00:31:48   laser vision to heat vision [TS]

00:31:51   so yeah I think we can all agree that [TS]

00:31:53   Superman is a pretty boring character [TS]

00:31:55   but the the thing about Superman is that [TS]

00:31:58   he's always sure of himself which is why [TS]

00:31:59   i find this trailer so annoying because [TS]

00:32:01   he's uh there's no god I've all-powerful [TS]

00:32:05   what should i do should i should i guess [TS]

00:32:08   Kevin Costner's right i should let kids [TS]

00:32:09   die because that's right baby always [TS]

00:32:11   what you'd rather do you want him to be [TS]

00:32:14   like I mean even in the original [TS]

00:32:15   superman movie yeah I want to see [TS]

00:32:17   Superman beating people up and flying [TS]

00:32:19   around shooting lasers out of his eyes [TS]

00:32:21   I'm sure he'll do some of that but I'm [TS]

00:32:22   gonna be arguing indestructible I don't [TS]

00:32:24   want to see him handcuffed by soldiers [TS]

00:32:26   hello unless those handcuffs are made of [TS]

00:32:29   kryptonite [TS]

00:32:30   yeah they all right don't you want to [TS]

00:32:32   see him like you don't want to do [TS]

00:32:33   something to help our they're fighting [TS]

00:32:35   people all the time you want to see him [TS]

00:32:36   overcome something like I mean think [TS]

00:32:38   about the matrix that you don't see Neil [TS]

00:32:40   be all-powerful to the end of the movie [TS]

00:32:41   and if you just all powerful the [TS]

00:32:43   beginning but Superman is always [TS]

00:32:45   all-powerful Superman is lame you have [TS]

00:32:46   to embrace the lameness because he's [TS]

00:32:48   all-powerful so he can find out how to [TS]

00:32:50   say despite the fact that the last movie [TS]

00:32:52   was not very good the first ten minutes [TS]

00:32:54   in ten minutes of it are actually pretty [TS]

00:32:56   great in terms of these the airplane [TS]

00:32:58   yeah i think that i like that i don't i [TS]

00:33:01   like that because I think it's a scene [TS]

00:33:02   of yeah you're all powerful but it [TS]

00:33:03   doesn't mean you can't necessarily do [TS]

00:33:05   write anything like he's trying to stop [TS]

00:33:07   a plane from crashing it's like turns [TS]

00:33:09   out that's really hard even if you can [TS]

00:33:10   fly and you're really strong but he can [TS]

00:33:12   fly backwards around the world and [TS]

00:33:13   change drug never had a time back [TS]

00:33:16   terrible every movie has its I I [TS]

00:33:19   honestly don't have high hopes for this [TS]

00:33:21   but as long as there's no Margot Kidder [TS]

00:33:23   internal monologue [TS]

00:33:25   I think it's probably much haha come [TS]

00:33:27   before ya know i think it's i think [TS]

00:33:31   there's something promising about it so [TS]

00:33:32   you know one of the funny things is that [TS]

00:33:33   and I talked about this on a spider-man [TS]

00:33:36   show with with dandy superhero costumes [TS]

00:33:38   are ridiculous right and with like the [TS]

00:33:41   x-men they tried to put them in the [TS]

00:33:43   leather outfits and and Batman sort of [TS]

00:33:47   makes sense right because he really is [TS]

00:33:48   kind of all the gadgets tree so he has [TS]

00:33:50   some armor when he's just a dude to [TS]

00:33:52   write raised just a guy so the Ministry [TS]

00:33:54   of Steel trailer i really liked it but [TS]

00:33:56   there is that moment where you're [TS]

00:33:57   looking at a oh he's from another place [TS]

00:34:00   he has power [TS]

00:34:01   what will he do what will he decide and [TS]

00:34:03   then there's a guy in a big billowing [TS]

00:34:05   red k yeah I heard you on that show and [TS]

00:34:08   I could not believe that you said that [TS]

00:34:09   again I'm not a dandy is the comical guy [TS]

00:34:11   and I'm not but it's my understanding [TS]

00:34:12   that Cape in that outfit or his clothes [TS]

00:34:15   from Krypton it's not like he decided to [TS]

00:34:17   dress up like a crazy person to keep [TS]

00:34:18   throwing up for all we know on Krypton [TS]

00:34:20   this like a business type or maybe [TS]

00:34:22   that's like nike athletic swear yeah it [TS]

00:34:24   looks crazy to us but is there his alien [TS]

00:34:26   close they're not you know him he came [TS]

00:34:28   to earth as an infant in those gigantic [TS]

00:34:31   close no they were brought with them but [TS]

00:34:33   surely his parents packed clothes from [TS]

00:34:35   the easier your baby you're going in [TS]

00:34:36   this little spaceship thing off the [TS]

00:34:38   earth and we're going to pack some [TS]

00:34:39   clothes for you that's like our mats [TS]

00:34:40   formal attire and crumbly just replicate [TS]

00:34:43   to get a good education you should see [TS]

00:34:45   is you should see his kryptonite rattle [TS]

00:34:47   everything is all we gotta pack the good [TS]

00:34:48   read [TS]

00:34:49   big the new record not that not the old [TS]

00:34:51   jor-el that old que no I got a new one [TS]

00:34:55   down at the department store is that not [TS]

00:34:57   correct comic book people i mean they're [TS]

00:34:58   right there are multiple there are [TS]

00:35:00   multiple merit versions of how the [TS]

00:35:02   senile but that's what it seemed like in [TS]

00:35:03   the original superman the origin story i [TS]

00:35:05   read as a kid which was from like a [TS]

00:35:06   polite treat paperback it was there is [TS]

00:35:10   blankets from the shuttle and it and [TS]

00:35:12   then ma can't sew them into establish [TS]

00:35:14   cape [TS]

00:35:14   yes exactly like Betsy Ross yeah but [TS]

00:35:17   either way I don't think it's a choice [TS]

00:35:18   like I'm going two hundred i look like a [TS]

00:35:21   big old clown like when I I understand [TS]

00:35:23   your mind that we've been known about [TS]

00:35:25   the story reasoning I'm just saying that [TS]

00:35:27   that you've got this attempt to make it [TS]

00:35:29   a little [TS]

00:35:29   bit more of a take on his psychology but [TS]

00:35:32   in the end he Superman he's gonna have a [TS]

00:35:35   big bill we red cape and you can't you [TS]

00:35:37   can't get away from I think I think he [TS]

00:35:38   should but what a tonal shift that is [TS]

00:35:41   well they had a long talk I think before [TS]

00:35:43   this movie about whether or not he would [TS]

00:35:44   actually wear a cape [TS]

00:35:46   no he's gotta where you can have [TS]

00:35:47   Superman without what I'm just saying I [TS]

00:35:49   mean I i don't disagree with that but i [TS]

00:35:50   think i think they spend a lot of time [TS]

00:35:52   talking about because this is sort of [TS]

00:35:53   the Christopher Nolan influenced a creer [TS]

00:35:55   it's like I was gonna be more realistic [TS]

00:35:56   well would you really wear a cape seems [TS]

00:35:58   like it's caught a lot of things you [TS]

00:35:59   don't know they spent the nineties [TS]

00:36:01   putting capes on every single person [TS]

00:36:03   with a machine gun and sunglasses in [TS]

00:36:04   every movie you think you're gonna take [TS]

00:36:05   the tape off what keeps our awesome [TS]

00:36:07   looking slow-motion can't flattering I [TS]

00:36:09   mean so there's gonna have double spy on [TS]

00:36:10   the background was watching the wrong [TS]

00:36:12   movies in the nineties apparently i [TS]

00:36:14   never understood why he has an S on I [TS]

00:36:17   mean he's Superman but if that is his [TS]

00:36:18   alien close why would there be is not an [TS]

00:36:20   S they don't use Roman numerals the [TS]

00:36:22   alien mother symbol of his family or or [TS]

00:36:26   something huh [TS]

00:36:26   it's it's a some alien logo and it just [TS]

00:36:29   happens to look like our earth s there's [TS]

00:36:32   a lot of redcon going going on that my [TS]

00:36:34   point is just that it's a big tonal [TS]

00:36:36   shift that that it's difficult if you're [TS]

00:36:38   a filmmaker and you want to bring some [TS]

00:36:40   more realism to it because in the end [TS]

00:36:42   you've got a guy wearing red boots and a [TS]

00:36:44   big red billowy Cape who can fly but [TS]

00:36:46   because he was made in the thirties and [TS]

00:36:48   that was the you know like it right like [TS]

00:36:50   you're kind of stuck with that was my [TS]

00:36:51   dad is the same way they try with that [TS]

00:36:53   costume too and it's I think this [TS]

00:36:55   strikes a better balance in spider-man [TS]

00:36:56   biggest spider man when it's 2-2 like [TS]

00:37:00   red tights it looks bad [TS]

00:37:02   I and when it's completely black it [TS]

00:37:04   looks bad and so does really enjoyed [TS]

00:37:07   your brand really seems in both the [TS]

00:37:08   first spider-man movie the same rainy [TS]

00:37:10   one and the more recent one where he [TS]

00:37:11   runs around in like you know like swag [TS]

00:37:14   out sweatshirt hoodie footpath yeah like [TS]

00:37:16   I like you know what I would watch an [TS]

00:37:18   entire movie with a guy walking around [TS]

00:37:20   that costume because like you're not [TS]

00:37:21   gonna take the time to go to home a can [TS]

00:37:23   make a costume [TS]

00:37:24   well that fits for spider-man because [TS]

00:37:25   that's his cat spider man's character is [TS]

00:37:27   more like he's just kid and he doesn't [TS]

00:37:29   know what he's doing Superman is [TS]

00:37:30   supposed to eventually embrace his you [TS]

00:37:32   know who he really is and he Superman [TS]

00:37:35   comes with like his own kit of stuff [TS]

00:37:37   from his home planet like he's got the [TS]

00:37:39   whole what I mean a starter kit because [TS]

00:37:40   you're awarded the big whatever that is [TS]

00:37:42   its fortress [TS]

00:37:43   solitude and his little girls got a [TS]

00:37:44   spaceship and studies guys got a comb to [TS]

00:37:47   get that little like little countless [TS]

00:37:48   girls got DVDs and Marlon Brando I mean [TS]

00:37:51   he's got everything in there [TS]

00:37:52   yeah Superman hair gels the best really [TS]

00:37:55   keeps it in place got great hold that [TS]

00:37:58   spaceship was really equipped instant [TS]

00:38:00   food what were they thinking [TS]

00:38:02   yeah so anyway I still think this movie [TS]

00:38:04   could be terrible because notice they [TS]

00:38:05   don't show you anything about the [TS]

00:38:06   antagonist maintain this could be really [TS]

00:38:08   really dumb they doing they shouldn't be [TS]

00:38:10   the generals on yak the Joker again it's [TS]

00:38:15   a con on I think he's Khan I think so [TS]

00:38:20   too i forget what if it was Superman [TS]

00:38:22   fighting a dragon that's all I'm saying [TS]

00:38:23   I would watch that to anything with [TS]

00:38:25   dragons that actually would be a pretty [TS]

00:38:27   cool reboot if they threw Superman into [TS]

00:38:29   some sort of that like my sources again [TS]

00:38:33   he would still be able to defeat dragons [TS]

00:38:35   and whatnot [TS]

00:38:36   yeah yeah what you mean Superman where [TS]

00:38:38   can you go you if once you defeat his [TS]

00:38:40   own self-doubt and emotional [TS]

00:38:41   insecurities all you've got left is [TS]

00:38:43   kryptonite and so like everything has to [TS]

00:38:44   be made of kryptonite ok so let's let's [TS]

00:38:46   drop them into a a post nuclear [TS]

00:38:48   holocaust world or or maybe where we're [TS]

00:38:52   at huge volcanic super volcano has [TS]

00:38:54   erupted and blind certainly blocks out [TS]

00:38:56   the Sun for most of yeah most of the day [TS]

00:38:59   with me just find 1a by the way that the [TS]

00:39:02   George the UH jor-el dvds are now [TS]

00:39:05   Russell Crowe and not Marlon Brando [TS]

00:39:08   russell crowe is the new general so [TS]

00:39:12   that'll be great [TS]

00:39:13   his father's his father's are russell [TS]

00:39:15   crowe and kevin costner least I'll be [TS]

00:39:17   able understand what the hell he's [TS]

00:39:17   saying i'm packing unpacking some long [TS]

00:39:23   johns [TS]

00:39:23   yeah I'm a king inside the rest keep [TS]

00:39:26   special occasion [TS]

00:39:29   oh and speaking of Jason show without [TS]

00:39:31   with andy the other quibble ladders with [TS]

00:39:33   the and he's not on here with Jason can [TS]

00:39:34   go in his stead [TS]

00:39:36   it didn't and he say on that show that [TS]

00:39:38   you're talking about what was the [TS]

00:39:40   disguise and was the real athlete and he [TS]

00:39:42   said that Superman's outfitted with the [TS]

00:39:45   s and the Cape that's his disguise and [TS]

00:39:46   Clark Kent is who he really is he's [TS]

00:39:48   talking about who the real not the [TS]

00:39:50   outfit so much as who the real person [TS]

00:39:52   right the kill that's the kill bill why [TS]

00:39:54   don't kill does the reverse kill bill [TS]

00:39:56   says [TS]

00:39:57   Clark campuses disguise and when he's [TS]

00:39:59   Superman that's just wearing again like [TS]

00:40:00   I said wearing street clothes from [TS]

00:40:02   Krypton but and he said the reverse I [TS]

00:40:04   want to know if there was some sort of [TS]

00:40:05   comic book the justification for that [TS]

00:40:08   interpreted he corrected me i'm not sure [TS]

00:40:09   i'm not sure about Superman I'm on the [TS]

00:40:11   fence about the Batman very definitely [TS]

00:40:13   the Bruce Wayne is a put-on because he's [TS]

00:40:15   this kind of millionaire jerk and that's [TS]

00:40:17   not really is she's never like that now [TS]

00:40:20   yeah no no I i I've say that the killed [TS]

00:40:22   interpretation is correct from my [TS]

00:40:24   understanding of Superman purely from [TS]

00:40:25   the movies that he's acting like Clark [TS]

00:40:27   Kent to the best he's not actually like [TS]

00:40:29   that and that he lets that down and [TS]

00:40:31   shows what he's really like when he puts [TS]

00:40:32   on when he's super jammies from Krypton [TS]

00:40:34   and yes this is actually me and I'm not [TS]

00:40:36   actually a bumbling idiot who exactly is [TS]

00:40:39   this keeps fundamentals you step aside [TS]

00:40:41   right but there's no definitive I mean [TS]

00:40:42   smallville is right is the reverse right [TS]

00:40:44   smallville is the story of the of the [TS]

00:40:46   guy but I but generally yeah those are [TS]

00:40:49   those famous movies from the the late [TS]

00:40:52   seventies and early eighties yeah Clark [TS]

00:40:54   is a put-on he's this fake bumbling you [TS]

00:40:58   know guy with glasses so that nobody [TS]

00:41:00   knows that he is really Superman but [TS]

00:41:03   look strikingly similar but the classes [TS]

00:41:05   throw you [TS]

00:41:06   let's let's let's go from zack snyder to [TS]

00:41:09   guillermo del toro who has a movie out [TS]

00:41:13   in 2013 [TS]

00:41:15   if we survive and if man is still alive [TS]

00:41:18   I called Pacific Rim which I had never [TS]

00:41:20   even heard of this movie until I saw the [TS]

00:41:23   trailer of it because my Twitter feed [TS]

00:41:25   blew up with nerdy people going oh my [TS]

00:41:27   god you gotta watch this trailer and [TS]

00:41:30   it's a and then I realized why when I [TS]

00:41:32   watched it because when i was a kid [TS]

00:41:33   there were these toys called shogun [TS]

00:41:36   warriors which were like big Japanese [TS]

00:41:38   robots and then you know you had your [TS]

00:41:41   Godzilla toys and they were actually [TS]

00:41:42   sold as a toy set i think in fact and in [TS]

00:41:45   watching the Pacific Rim trailer i said [TS]

00:41:47   to myself this is a movie from somebody [TS]

00:41:49   who had the exact same toys i did when i [TS]

00:41:51   was a kid because it's a movie where big [TS]

00:41:52   robots battle against giants sea lizards [TS]

00:41:56   from mocospace finally answers the [TS]

00:41:58   question that all of us you know my [TS]

00:41:59   friends and I had when we were in high [TS]

00:42:00   school watching a bunch of money which [TS]

00:42:02   is how come no one's made a good move [TS]

00:42:03   live-action movie with giant robots [TS]

00:42:06   well this this is why they've never [TS]

00:42:07   never been a good movie because that's [TS]

00:42:09   not [TS]

00:42:09   possible right it seems like way so [TS]

00:42:12   negative so negative as much as I love [TS]

00:42:15   all the things in this movie and al [TS]

00:42:17   Malaki where the girl was a good [TS]

00:42:19   director [TS]

00:42:19   I know I really like him you know I have [TS]

00:42:22   high hopes but like for first of all you [TS]

00:42:25   know then it's from watching all that [TS]

00:42:27   animate do you think these these neck [TS]

00:42:29   designs stand up to the best neck [TS]

00:42:31   designs from anime because i don't think [TS]

00:42:33   they did not know looks kinda like the [TS]

00:42:34   master chief doesn't know it looks like [TS]

00:42:37   i don't know what it looks like it's not [TS]

00:42:39   i mean really if you're going to make a [TS]

00:42:40   giant robot why even really make it in [TS]

00:42:42   the shape of a person that seems really [TS]

00:42:43   what like if you're gonna make it a [TS]

00:42:45   shame a person making the shape of [TS]

00:42:46   really cool privacy okay filling red [TS]

00:42:51   cape would be awesome LOL look at the [TS]

00:42:54   casting this movie is crazy though it's [TS]

00:42:56   got Jack's from Sons of Anarchy it's a [TS]

00:42:58   stringer Bell yeah the type of celba [TS]

00:43:00   he's awesome [TS]

00:43:01   I mean by gladwell some reason yeah [TS]

00:43:03   house for some crazy reason with the [TS]

00:43:05   exact same voice which makes no sense [TS]

00:43:07   same actress same vocal effect weird as [TS]

00:43:10   very odd i mean it's clearly the fact [TS]

00:43:12   that it's done so clearly as an homage [TS]

00:43:14   like it has to be like I know that he [TS]

00:43:16   hired her after out must have licensed [TS]

00:43:18   it because that I got actors you know [TS]

00:43:21   like the valve could sue them if there [TS]

00:43:22   was this wasn't some sort of a handshake [TS]

00:43:24   agreement at the very least because it's [TS]

00:43:25   like trade dress you know you've got [TS]

00:43:27   glad us in this movie I think we're [TS]

00:43:29   seeing some video game tions real [TS]

00:43:32   obvious ones coming soon but it doesn't [TS]

00:43:34   make any said but what it has to make [TS]

00:43:37   sense its shadow of the colossus vs [TS]

00:43:39   Voltron why do you keep slow it's not [TS]

00:43:41   it's it's more like a you know sort of [TS]

00:43:43   occult demons coming from they're not [TS]

00:43:45   they're not space aliens they're more [TS]

00:43:47   like interdimensional portal right [TS]

00:43:48   Hellmouth kind of but they're they're [TS]

00:43:50   coming out of the rift in the sea [TS]

00:43:52   godzilla-like I mean that's pretty much [TS]

00:43:54   where Godzilla emerged yeah yeah and [TS]

00:43:56   this that robots are basically ultraman [TS]

00:43:58   will there's nothing there fighting the [TS]

00:44:00   Cloverfield monster but what's this [TS]

00:44:02   movie about though i did i did laugh at [TS]

00:44:04   the at the narration the very serious [TS]

00:44:06   narration the beginning of this movie [TS]

00:44:07   which is you know I think intended Iraq [TS]

00:44:10   against the weed there we thought the [TS]

00:44:12   aliens would come from applause but [TS]

00:44:14   instead they came from a rift in the sea [TS]

00:44:17   ok dammit we were looking in the wrong [TS]

00:44:19   direction [TS]

00:44:21   I've decided like that makes all the [TS]

00:44:22   difference [TS]

00:44:22   instead what we had planned so [TS]

00:44:24   thoroughly for we're looking in the [TS]

00:44:26   wrong place [TS]

00:44:27   I it's bizarre right and then and then [TS]

00:44:29   they cut to the end but fortunately we [TS]

00:44:31   have guys in drug giant robot suits you [TS]

00:44:34   can fight them you know just in case i'm [TS]

00:44:36   really looking forward to them [TS]

00:44:37   explaining why it takes two of them a [TS]

00:44:39   man yeah they learned nothing it has to [TS]

00:44:40   be angsty teenage boys it doesn't work [TS]

00:44:42   with adults [TS]

00:44:43   I'm just saying eight-year-old me is [TS]

00:44:45   very excited to see this movie that's [TS]

00:44:46   what we need like my problems like what [TS]

00:44:49   is this movie about aliens attack and we [TS]

00:44:50   fight them off and they gonna try to [TS]

00:44:52   make personal stakes but it's gonna be [TS]

00:44:53   love interest it's like there's no plot [TS]

00:44:55   that's what have you seen battleship i [TS]

00:44:58   know i have I looked at this and thought [TS]

00:45:00   this is this is the thinking man's [TS]

00:45:01   transformers which I looked at this and [TS]

00:45:04   I thought this is the slightly better [TS]

00:45:07   property transformers because [TS]

00:45:08   transformers are boring this could be [TS]

00:45:10   more interesting but yeah this thing's [TS]

00:45:11   got the same problems I don't do I care [TS]

00:45:13   about any of these characters do I care [TS]

00:45:15   for the earth gets destroyed they don't [TS]

00:45:16   even transform them and there's know [TS]

00:45:17   that they're there was that movie last [TS]

00:45:19   year that was like the the robots that [TS]

00:45:21   fight each other and the guys who [TS]

00:45:23   control them know that Hugh Jackman real [TS]

00:45:25   steel wheels i saw part of that yeah [TS]

00:45:28   yeah so this is sort of like what if [TS]

00:45:30   Real Steel was like really big and fight [TS]

00:45:32   Godzilla yeah I often wonder what now [TS]

00:45:36   you will find out I like Jax teller i [TS]

00:45:39   like stringer Bell [TS]

00:45:40   I don't like this mech designs so I'm i [TS]

00:45:44   don't think it is like the other movies [TS]

00:45:45   that we've done so far I think I'll go [TS]

00:45:47   see those in the theater this one [TS]

00:45:48   already is on netflix queue I want to [TS]

00:45:50   move onto to find movies that i really [TS]

00:45:53   am starting to think of as one [TS]

00:45:54   additional after back-to-back as [TS]

00:45:57   trailers at the hobbit it was hilarious [TS]

00:45:59   after oblivia oblivia after looking at [TS]

00:46:01   the end there's a Tom Cruise place that [TS]

00:46:03   guy [TS]

00:46:04   Lillian not to be confused with the [TS]

00:46:05   Bolivians love with Tom Cruise is will [TS]

00:46:08   smith son and his movies are going to be [TS]

00:46:10   very different though don't you in the [TS]

00:46:12   trailers the same but the movies are [TS]

00:46:14   going to be crazy different probably but [TS]

00:46:17   but definitely yes in one tom cruise [TS]

00:46:20   will mug and the other one will smith [TS]

00:46:22   will mug Tom Cruise a droid repair man [TS]

00:46:25   Yama has long lingering shots that take [TS]

00:46:28   forever and the other one will be like [TS]

00:46:30   chop chop chop it will be totally [TS]

00:46:32   different you know what channel movies [TS]

00:46:33   are like they are not like [TS]

00:46:36   increase action movies and tone i think [TS]

00:46:37   i think the interesting thing about will [TS]

00:46:39   will smith and Tom Cruise that they [TS]

00:46:41   basically have such a similar you know [TS]

00:46:43   presence in terms of the box office [TS]

00:46:45   right there both these guys who was like [TS]

00:46:46   well you're kinda gonna watch them [TS]

00:46:48   playing more or less themselves in [TS]

00:46:51   whatever movie there in because they're [TS]

00:46:54   so big as movie stars now that i was [TS]

00:46:56   just reading this thing about Tom Cruise [TS]

00:46:57   the other day was like you know you're [TS]

00:46:58   generally speaking yes don't but they're [TS]

00:47:01   clearly in size they're a little bit [TS]

00:47:03   different but it's you know the the [TS]

00:47:05   you're not expecting them to go in like [TS]

00:47:06   playing a particularly compelling [TS]

00:47:08   character really you're going to watch [TS]

00:47:10   Tom's Tom Cruise or Will Smith your butt [TS]

00:47:13   said Tom Selleck or tom selleck I would [TS]

00:47:15   I think it's all different [TS]

00:47:16   I mean the mustache I think will smith [TS]

00:47:18   is because does a better job of being a [TS]

00:47:20   character you're right it is usually [TS]

00:47:21   mostly will smith the like it's the same [TS]

00:47:23   character he doesn't much better job [TS]

00:47:24   being a terrorist Tom Cruise is there to [TS]

00:47:26   play tom cruise like it doesn't matter [TS]

00:47:28   what the character is they're all [TS]

00:47:29   someone suggested like maybe just view [TS]

00:47:31   isn't the entire photography from the [TS]

00:47:32   last decade as he's basically Ethan Hunt [TS]

00:47:34   undercovering the different prints you [TS]

00:47:38   know when I saw the after earth trailer [TS]

00:47:40   I thought he would reminded me of will [TS]

00:47:42   smith from i am legend that's the will [TS]

00:47:44   smith that i thought was in a movie like [TS]

00:47:46   but you know i like that i am legend for [TS]

00:47:48   the most part I liked that it was slower [TS]

00:47:49   pace that will smith goes thought I was [TS]

00:47:51   really hoping for the will smith from [TS]

00:47:53   The Fresh Prince of bel-air you want a [TS]

00:47:56   little wrapping smell you later earth [TS]

00:48:05   so but i read i read something about [TS]

00:48:08   after earth in that will smith is killed [TS]

00:48:10   very quickly in the movie and it really [TS]

00:48:12   focuses on Jaden Smith which you would [TS]

00:48:14   never get get that was that was my [TS]

00:48:16   guests from the trailer because I was [TS]

00:48:17   not here like this trailer seems to have [TS]

00:48:20   a lot of this kid who I don't know [TS]

00:48:23   anything about and not so much will [TS]

00:48:25   well dude do you like Will Smith because [TS]

00:48:27   it's his son I know that knowing that [TS]

00:48:30   this is josh hamilton movie even though [TS]

00:48:32   the trailer doesn't admit that and in [TS]

00:48:34   the trailer there's like a scene where I [TS]

00:48:36   I could swear that i'm seeing will smith [TS]

00:48:38   get blown out of the spaceship right [TS]

00:48:40   obviously lives mass that right soso and [TS]

00:48:43   then and then yeah they land on the [TS]

00:48:44   planet and all that and I'm thinking it [TS]

00:48:46   is this a ghost that only the kid can [TS]

00:48:48   see is the hologram they did that one [TS]

00:48:52   already just like well please state the [TS]

00:48:55   nature of your medical emergency [TS]

00:48:56   I gotta say I'm really interested by the [TS]

00:48:58   whole aspect of the not promoting the [TS]

00:49:01   director and i will say that because i [TS]

00:49:02   was in a movie theater when they showed [TS]

00:49:04   what was the terrible thing he didn't [TS]

00:49:06   even direct it was the one he produced [TS]

00:49:08   the one that's like in the elevator [TS]

00:49:10   hello right right away idea and they put [TS]

00:49:13   up like produced by m night shyamalan [TS]

00:49:15   everyone you know I was in the theater [TS]

00:49:16   where everybody boo'd and I was like [TS]

00:49:17   I've never seen that happen as well I've [TS]

00:49:19   never seen that happen to anybody else [TS]

00:49:21   like to any other director in the [TS]

00:49:25   history of me going to movies only one [TS]

00:49:27   hour from the only seventeen times and [TS]

00:49:29   people start to get cranky yeah like [TS]

00:49:31   which is usually I think he's generally [TS]

00:49:32   a very good director I he's made some [TS]

00:49:34   some flawed movies but i think i would [TS]

00:49:36   still take him over a Michael Bay or is [TS]

00:49:39   brett ratner I mean like he's a [TS]

00:49:41   thoughtful director who makes traveling [TS]

00:49:43   so Michael Bay has has his core audience [TS]

00:49:45   of meatheads who just want to see stuff [TS]

00:49:48   blow up like but Shyamalan has like the [TS]

00:49:50   sort of you know people who are more [TS]

00:49:52   interested in like slow pacing in the [TS]

00:49:54   craft and suspense epidemic into the [TS]

00:49:56   same thing over and over again those [TS]

00:49:57   people though like they're not they're [TS]

00:49:59   not like the you know like the well they [TS]

00:50:01   all like 26 travel and earlier movies [TS]

00:50:04   better you know they're just everybody [TS]

00:50:06   know but they don't like the sixth sense [TS]

00:50:08   and they said i can go see another movie [TS]

00:50:09   while this is like the 6th sense but not [TS]

00:50:11   as exciting and we'll see another one [TS]

00:50:12   while this is also like success but not [TS]

00:50:14   as good like is there to it was too much [TS]

00:50:15   sameness and every genre he did he [TS]

00:50:17   treated that same [TS]

00:50:18   way like this slope a serious thing I [TS]

00:50:20   mean yeah they totally short but I mean [TS]

00:50:22   like you could say the same thing about [TS]

00:50:23   Hitchcock I mean right but Hitchcock was [TS]

00:50:25   much much better [TS]

00:50:26   he's got a crazy Hitchcock is better [TS]

00:50:28   there's no question about that i'm just [TS]

00:50:30   saying that there are a lot of directors [TS]

00:50:31   who tend to make the same movie over and [TS]

00:50:33   over again with the same tonal type of [TS]

00:50:35   move that his style is very [TS]

00:50:37   off-the-beaten packet [TS]

00:50:39   off-the-beaten-path kind of like like [TS]

00:50:41   Spielberg makes the same kind of like [TS]

00:50:43   the way he directs his movies have that [TS]

00:50:44   same feel to them but it's like a feel [TS]

00:50:46   good feel and shamans feels like listen [TS]

00:50:48   I know you might feel like you're [TS]

00:50:50   getting bored but stay with me and if [TS]

00:50:51   you lose you for a second you drift out [TS]

00:50:53   of its like a riskier style you know but [TS]

00:50:55   that night the fact that got to such a [TS]

00:50:57   point that it encourages people to boo [TS]

00:50:58   like that is not the reaction you have [TS]

00:51:00   like with her oh i'm bored by this movie [TS]

00:51:02   and you do it well he got offended also [TS]

00:51:05   by the twist thing where it's like all [TS]

00:51:06   right so that the first movie had a [TS]

00:51:07   twist and you're never going to be [TS]

00:51:08   retwisting like you can't out Chris [TS]

00:51:10   himself and select the village had was a [TS]

00:51:13   twister like I was not not this big [TS]

00:51:15   twist the sixth sense you know like an [TS]

00:51:17   unbreakable cycle that wasn't barely [TS]

00:51:19   even twist because the sudden get what's [TS]

00:51:21   going on here like he got me typecasting [TS]

00:51:23   I don't I i don't agree with that [TS]

00:51:25   characterization of his of his arc [TS]

00:51:28   because I i think people hate him [TS]

00:51:30   because of maybe because of the village [TS]

00:51:33   but really because what happened after [TS]

00:51:34   that with lady in the water that [TS]

00:51:35   happening in the last airbender well [TS]

00:51:37   that happening I'd forgotten the reason [TS]

00:51:39   why did you have to remind me that is a [TS]

00:51:41   terrible movie science was a hit [TS]

00:51:43   unbreakable was was disappointing for [TS]

00:51:45   the sixth sense financially but is his [TS]

00:51:46   best movies signs was terrible to that's [TS]

00:51:49   great your breakables agreement and [TS]

00:51:50   science was a science was successful he [TS]

00:51:52   kept making movies like signs he would [TS]

00:51:54   be like michael bay because he would be [TS]

00:51:56   making movies that make lots of money i [TS]

00:51:59   really like lady in the water honestly [TS]

00:52:00   and I think I've heard of that was I saw [TS]

00:52:02   it way after yes when you can I don't [TS]

00:52:05   see and I thought that is actually [TS]

00:52:07   really good it has its problems it [TS]

00:52:08   definitely has now and not before [TS]

00:52:10   Giamatti and enter your expectations [TS]

00:52:12   have been set extremely low at that [TS]

00:52:13   point well because if you looked at if [TS]

00:52:16   you looked at the the trailers in the [TS]

00:52:18   marketing they did for it's totally not [TS]

00:52:20   the movie that their marketing like [TS]

00:52:22   that's the other thing that's very odd [TS]

00:52:23   about is their marketing very much like [TS]

00:52:25   horror suspense II you know like M night [TS]

00:52:28   Shyamalan movie and it's you know it's a [TS]

00:52:29   fairytale and I think [TS]

00:52:31   if you look at it from a different [TS]

00:52:32   perspective you know in terms of you [TS]

00:52:34   know what they're promoting versus what [TS]

00:52:36   the movie actually is [TS]

00:52:37   it's a much better movie than they [TS]

00:52:38   promoted it but I think everybody went [TS]

00:52:40   into it expecting it to be you know an M [TS]

00:52:42   night Shyamalan movie and yeah it has [TS]

00:52:43   that slow deliberate pacing and [TS]

00:52:45   everything like that but it's not the [TS]

00:52:46   movie that was advertised and i know [TS]

00:52:48   right i think this reminds like sku I [TS]

00:52:50   relationship with the critical of [TS]

00:52:52   everything and that's the big Swan that [TS]

00:52:54   would be if anything is that his he [TS]

00:52:56   clearly felt maligned by the critics and [TS]

00:52:58   decided to take it out on them in the [TS]

00:52:59   movie literally a really a really bad [TS]

00:53:02   that was a mistake like cut that whole [TS]

00:53:04   subplot in that movie is actually one of [TS]

00:53:06   his best movies but the reason I boo and [TS]

00:53:09   complained about the shower and stuff is [TS]

00:53:11   because i really really like them [TS]

00:53:13   breakable and that was such a high like [TS]

00:53:16   this like one of the best superhero [TS]

00:53:17   movies I've ever seen period and you [TS]

00:53:20   know six cents was fine whatever not my [TS]

00:53:21   cup of tea but after unbreakable I [TS]

00:53:23   thought boy like you know six cents [TS]

00:53:25   popular hit and now i can break was like [TS]

00:53:27   wow he's really like this guy's taking [TS]

00:53:29   it to another level and then it was just [TS]

00:53:30   a series of disappointments following [TS]

00:53:31   that and I'm like come on man [TS]

00:53:33   where's that guy is unbreakable he's not [TS]

00:53:37   so they night Shyamalan lives around [TS]

00:53:40   Philadelphia some films a lot of things [TS]

00:53:42   that explains a lot actually it went [TS]

00:53:44   that's true and so I the happening he [TS]

00:53:47   was filming happening in many locations [TS]

00:53:48   in Philadelphia and so I was uh I live [TS]

00:53:51   in downtown Philadelphia and there's a [TS]

00:53:53   park near me call Rittenhouse Square and [TS]

00:53:56   unbeknownst to me I they were filming [TS]

00:53:59   there is one of the locations and one [TS]

00:54:01   day I was walking to work and it was [TS]

00:54:03   like October i'm guessing i was gonna or [TS]

00:54:06   november and so I cut through [TS]

00:54:08   Rittenhouse Square and I thought it was [TS]

00:54:09   odd because it was the fall and there's [TS]

00:54:12   a lot of people is not an lining the [TS]

00:54:14   square and no III didn't actually meet [TS]

00:54:17   anyone how who were season that dress [TS]

00:54:20   appropriately for the season and there [TS]

00:54:21   are people who are having picnics in the [TS]

00:54:23   morning and I thought this is odd and [TS]

00:54:25   they were not none of them were moving [TS]

00:54:27   which I also thought was a hot but I [TS]

00:54:29   kept walking through and some guy ran up [TS]

00:54:33   to me with a clipboard he said sorry you [TS]

00:54:35   can't walk through here and that's what [TS]

00:54:37   I mean this is how you get to work years [TS]

00:54:39   ago were filming happening for filming a [TS]

00:54:42   terrible research [TS]

00:54:43   just had someone to be this movie so [TS]

00:54:46   that's my story is not very good story [TS]

00:54:48   but i had to because Glenn would have [TS]

00:54:50   gone to lunch with them I was hoping I [TS]

00:54:52   was hoping you were going to see you [TS]

00:54:53   know whole bunch of people like [TS]

00:54:54   spontaneously hope that stuff that would [TS]

00:54:57   have been extremely creepy that's not [TS]

00:54:59   that unusual in Philadelphia either or [TS]

00:55:01   group or just throwing em night [TS]

00:55:03   Shyamalan that's true did I didn't know [TS]

00:55:05   I didn't know I didn't know that [TS]

00:55:06   happening was in Oblivion Tom Collins [TS]

00:55:11   eight meets the matrix is a drone repair [TS]

00:55:13   man eats meat after earth and buttons [TS]

00:55:17   right when he when he lands on the earth [TS]

00:55:19   he apparently which is which is there [TS]

00:55:21   nobody there's nobody on the earth it's [TS]

00:55:22   abandoned which is why Morgan Freeman is [TS]

00:55:24   there with it or is a drive of 0 PE God [TS]

00:55:28   so Morpheus jr. I like the fact that [TS]

00:55:31   they have the trench from what he called [TS]

00:55:33   from AI apparently in the distant future [TS]

00:55:36   trenches are big on her tits well why [TS]

00:55:38   not [TS]

00:55:39   they're in yeah so I you know it's Tom [TS]

00:55:42   Cruise it's even hunt in the future [TS]

00:55:44   fixing drones 16 had not fond of any [TS]

00:55:47   film that gives Tom Cruise the [TS]

00:55:49   opportunity to be alone with the camera [TS]

00:55:51   for like 30 minutes because he chews [TS]

00:55:54   through the landscape is probably the [TS]

00:55:55   trench came from a problem with all that [TS]

00:55:58   scenery up with his teeth [TS]

00:56:00   well they don't like him they don't like [TS]

00:56:01   him to be next to other actors be so [TS]

00:56:03   small it's like a for strength Robert [TS]

00:56:05   things i like him to just be isolated [TS]

00:56:06   and a scaled-down all the cg sets to [TS]

00:56:08   make him look three make it look like [TS]

00:56:10   you're 16 it's tough doing action scenes [TS]

00:56:12   on the six inch platforms [TS]

00:56:13   yeah yeah this is the director of tron [TS]

00:56:17   legacy joseph kosinski drink direct this [TS]

00:56:19   you know it looks it [TS]

00:56:21   the trailer looks nice but he's got a [TS]

00:56:24   great i mean because this guy's a great [TS]

00:56:25   I I mean whatever else you say about [TS]

00:56:27   tron legacy was a good look great yeah [TS]

00:56:28   really great-looking movie any great [TS]

00:56:30   aesthetic and you know I i think i don't [TS]

00:56:33   know i'm going to give him a shot [TS]

00:56:35   I I you know with Tom Cruise yeah he's [TS]

00:56:38   not a great actor but you also know it's [TS]

00:56:40   like it's like going to a foreign city [TS]

00:56:41   and eaten a burger king it's like you [TS]

00:56:42   know exactly what you're going to get [TS]

00:56:44   right it's not going to be great but you [TS]

00:56:46   know it's predictable you have to give [TS]

00:56:47   them some something to run around [TS]

00:56:49   frantically about yes that's all you [TS]

00:56:51   need I mean I and I think that's if you [TS]

00:56:53   know that's the target audience and I [TS]

00:56:54   think that's what they're going for [TS]

00:56:56   and Morgan Freeman is trying to straight [TS]

00:56:58   steal my drones but I hope it's a good [TS]

00:57:01   story like you mean you don't know what [TS]

00:57:02   the story is so much but like I hope [TS]

00:57:04   it's not but this one these things [TS]

00:57:05   always fall down because we see these [TS]

00:57:06   soccer movies like wouldn't that be cool [TS]

00:57:08   and we started fabricating what story [TS]

00:57:09   could be on her head and the real story [TS]

00:57:11   ends up being dumb or illogical or both [TS]

00:57:13   and you're just like uh and then you can [TS]

00:57:15   I can enjoy the like that one of them [TS]

00:57:18   scrubbing through this trail analysis [TS]

00:57:19   unit from the producers of rise of the [TS]

00:57:20   planet of the apes which for some reason [TS]

00:57:22   i recently watched because everyone was [TS]

00:57:24   saying that get booed everyone kept [TS]

00:57:26   saying it was it was good and then I [TS]

00:57:28   watched him like this movie makes no [TS]

00:57:30   sense why why doesn't make there's no [TS]

00:57:32   reason for it to make no sense like you [TS]

00:57:34   when you're watching and go there's so [TS]

00:57:35   many ways this could make sense you've [TS]

00:57:37   drilled deliberately chosen not to make [TS]

00:57:39   it make sense that it kills the movie if [TS]

00:57:40   you visit your brain keeps engaging and [TS]

00:57:42   saying no was why because things like [TS]

00:57:44   transformers are the baseline now so [TS]

00:57:47   rise of the planet of the apes makes [TS]

00:57:49   ultimate sense but transformers made [TS]

00:57:51   more sense than rise of the planet of [TS]

00:57:52   the apes really seen transformers there [TS]

00:57:54   was bad ones and good ones and they [TS]

00:57:56   fought each other rise of the planet of [TS]

00:57:57   the apes it was nonsensical like no not [TS]

00:57:59   figure out what the hell is going on in [TS]

00:58:01   any given minute to transform know any [TS]

00:58:02   of those three films i didn't even know [TS]

00:58:04   what I was what i was looking at John [TS]

00:58:05   consider that a warning label [TS]

00:58:07   did you watch all three of those films [TS]

00:58:08   he I did not watch all of those ok [TS]

00:58:10   gotten I've just 45 minutes of the [TS]

00:58:13   second one on a plane and was and really [TS]

00:58:15   was just ready to like my eyes out when [TS]

00:58:17   you're praying for the plane to go down [TS]

00:58:18   that's time to turn off their i hope we [TS]

00:58:22   land so i can turn this off with I gotta [TS]

00:58:24   say I think this movie actually as much [TS]

00:58:27   as I don't like Tom Cruise much and [TS]

00:58:29   through the scenery I i think it's [TS]

00:58:30   actually looks sort of promising I can't [TS]

00:58:33   tell what the hell it's about because [TS]

00:58:34   you thought of a cool so you call you [TS]

00:58:37   thought of at least two or three cool [TS]

00:58:38   stories that could be the premise I did [TS]

00:58:40   yes although I'm IM like you I'm afraid [TS]

00:58:42   it's going to fall into the same old [TS]

00:58:43   tropes I mean it looks it looks like [TS]

00:58:45   he's working for the wrong side [TS]

00:58:47   yes he's been lied to he has been lied [TS]

00:58:50   to and there's the good there's a good [TS]

00:58:51   clean white future world in the dark [TS]

00:58:54   gritty other ones and the white one is [TS]

00:58:55   actually simple one right and you know [TS]

00:58:58   shooting like undesirables on tour it [TS]

00:59:00   has potential i'll say that and I did [TS]

00:59:02   not necessarily say that about some of [TS]

00:59:04   these other films that we looked at here [TS]

00:59:05   it seems like Arthur's deserted but [TS]

00:59:07   really no one here on Tom Cruise's that [TS]

00:59:09   everybody just hide will go away it will [TS]

00:59:12   pretend that we need these drone strikes [TS]

00:59:13   we can see him can't see us and then he [TS]

00:59:17   finds them was like dammit we were so [TS]

00:59:19   close now behind you a hundred and will [TS]

00:59:22   hide again go back to your there with a [TS]

00:59:24   small like a small plant at one point [TS]

00:59:26   Wally like it's true [TS]

00:59:29   Tom Cruise's Wally it's and I like to be [TS]

00:59:31   incredibly well that beautiful women in [TS]

00:59:33   this in this trailer [TS]

00:59:34   yeah right like the woman in the white [TS]

00:59:36   area she's like right out of a feminine [TS]

00:59:38   hygiene product add yeah he's in the [TS]

00:59:41   white zone saying that's Eva yeah summer [TS]

00:59:45   series on ya have amazing hair and [TS]

00:59:52   makeup in the future they do that is the [TS]

00:59:55   future all clean and and happy and [TS]

00:59:56   friendly and have drones to be repaired [TS]

00:59:58   and [TS]

00:59:58   and [TS]

01:00:00   for their hair and makeup yeah i watch [TS]

01:00:02   the watch The Lone Ranger trailer last [TS]

01:00:04   night on somebody's recommendation and [TS]

01:00:09   all you want I yeah this is it seems [TS]

01:00:16   like a bad idea to me it is from the [TS]

01:00:18   people who brought you the symbol that [TS]

01:00:20   represents pirates of the caribbean for [TS]

01:00:25   those who can't read [TS]

01:00:27   it's like a oh I recognize that number [TS]

01:00:29   it's got its got two of two actors who I [TS]

01:00:34   actually generally i want to say i [TS]

01:00:37   generally don't like them I said I i [TS]

01:00:39   would say two actors who are more are [TS]

01:00:42   often are often horribly misused in [TS]

01:00:46   certain ways in terms of like their [TS]

01:00:48   makeup and the characters they get cast [TS]

01:00:50   as and it's all very temperate me in a [TS]

01:00:53   way that I despise and that's Johnny [TS]

01:00:55   Depp and helena bonham carter and i saw [TS]

01:00:58   that she was in this movie and like oh [TS]

01:01:00   great and you know johnny depp and [TS]

01:01:03   helena bonham carter a movie together [TS]

01:01:04   that's a that that's a bad sign Armie [TS]

01:01:06   Hammer you know he's he's a guy he is [TS]

01:01:09   he's there he's president he's got an [TS]

01:01:11   awesome name but Johnny Depp is johnny [TS]

01:01:13   depp is a white man playing an Indian [TS]

01:01:16   and locking legs tanto from the fifties [TS]

01:01:20   Internet has no race Jason it's and i [TS]

01:01:24   just i cannot i could not believe what [TS]

01:01:26   I'm watching it seems like five [TS]

01:01:28   different kinds of bad Johnny barely has [TS]

01:01:30   a gender that's true if he was playing a [TS]

01:01:34   woman I wouldn't have a problem with it [TS]

01:01:35   but he's playing Tonto and he says [TS]

01:01:38   Kemosabe [TS]

01:01:39   yeah I've never not have much attachment [TS]

01:01:42   to the Lone Ranger brand that i'm sure [TS]

01:01:43   many people are still alive do know i [TS]

01:01:45   don't know i'm not sure that they would [TS]

01:01:47   go to see this movie anyway [TS]

01:01:48   no it's like The Green Hornet or [TS]

01:01:49   something like it is invaluable Italy [TS]

01:01:51   mr. Opry missed your chance i think [TS]

01:01:53   there was plenty of Lone Ranger [TS]

01:01:54   properties that when it was popular now [TS]

01:01:57   maybe not the time and yet they remade [TS]

01:01:59   dark shadows for some reason [TS]

01:02:00   here's all I want to know which is is [TS]

01:02:03   the is the team showing up the team that [TS]

01:02:05   made the first pirates of the caribbean [TS]

01:02:08   for the team that made the next three [TS]

01:02:10   because the first parts of the caribbean [TS]

01:02:12   movies pretty good next three are awful [TS]

01:02:15   it's pretty much the same people i know [TS]

01:02:17   it is but somehow they got they got [TS]

01:02:18   something right once right that's my [TS]

01:02:20   point [TS]

01:02:20   they made a good movie in there [TS]

01:02:21   somewhere they made a lot of bad movies [TS]

01:02:23   and that might outweigh that good movie [TS]

01:02:24   but it's possible they could make a good [TS]

01:02:26   movie again the Lone Ranger character is [TS]

01:02:28   established so they can't do too much [TS]

01:02:30   with them don't know right times have he [TS]

01:02:34   comes back from the dead but he has to [TS]

01:02:36   wear masks so they know that he it's [TS]

01:02:38   like The Incredible Hulk they must [TS]

01:02:39   believe that he is dead [TS]

01:02:41   even though he's actually alive and [TS]

01:02:44   wears a mask and it seems like a bad [TS]

01:02:47   idea [TS]

01:02:48   it just seems like a like I said it's a [TS]

01:02:49   lot of bats like why do this why do dark [TS]

01:02:53   shadows [TS]

01:02:53   I mean oh yeah well as Mark when [TS]

01:02:56   speaking of bereft of ideas and has been [TS]

01:02:59   for two decades right and these dark [TS]

01:03:00   shadows had a built-in audience while [TS]

01:03:03   you look back at pirates of the [TS]

01:03:04   caribbean 244 the original point for [TS]

01:03:06   example and it's why did they make a [TS]

01:03:08   movie out of a amusement park ride [TS]

01:03:10   that's been around for 25 years I mean [TS]

01:03:11   why does hollywood do anything they see [TS]

01:03:14   easy using what they think is easy money [TS]

01:03:16   right we don't have to we've got this [TS]

01:03:17   thing it's got ya you might not know [TS]

01:03:20   anything about the lone ranger but you [TS]

01:03:21   probably know who the lone ranger is [TS]

01:03:23   right you get brand recognition [TS]

01:03:25   hi-ho silver away exactly that's [TS]

01:03:27   all--that's all--that's all they need [TS]

01:03:28   these artists name recognition anyway [TS]

01:03:30   yeah Johnny Depp is a sinister Indian [TS]

01:03:34   Shaymin guy who resurrected mr. he looks [TS]

01:03:38   kind of sinister he's guess i don't know [TS]

01:03:40   i didn't I guess I didn't get a sinister [TS]

01:03:41   vibe from i know i like there was a [TS]

01:03:44   scene with that with horse but I had on [TS]

01:03:46   his head that I easy zone [TS]

01:03:50   wow I would so there's a birthday / that [TS]

01:03:52   you're gonna love the minister and then [TS]

01:03:54   like a person I don't know why is tanto [TS]

01:03:57   now Rob Zombie I don't really understand [TS]

01:03:59   where they're going with that because [TS]

01:04:00   you're trying to be culturally sensitive [TS]

01:04:01   if they're gonna do this they have to [TS]

01:04:03   know where the pitfalls are right that's [TS]

01:04:04   pretty obvious making his lone ranger in [TS]

01:04:07   2013 is the first pitiful but they [TS]

01:04:10   ignored [TS]

01:04:10   they seem to have failed to avoid that [TS]

01:04:12   one no but my point is if you're making [TS]

01:04:14   that movie you gotta know like all right [TS]

01:04:15   we're having Johnny Depp dress up as [TS]

01:04:16   Native American I [TS]

01:04:17   would think you would take the time to [TS]

01:04:19   you know at least do some research [TS]

01:04:21   maybe they didn't in which case I grew [TS]

01:04:23   Jason that is a really bad idea [TS]

01:04:25   well I think they're going the other way [TS]

01:04:26   they're going they're going with if we [TS]

01:04:28   make him as completely unidentifiable [TS]

01:04:30   with any sort of Native American tribe [TS]

01:04:32   as possible then we're less likely to [TS]

01:04:35   offend any any specific maybe it will [TS]

01:04:37   turn out maybe they'll twist in this [TS]

01:04:38   movie is that he's actually just like [TS]

01:04:39   it's like dances with wolves and he's [TS]

01:04:41   just he's just a white guy jumped onto [TS]

01:04:43   washington aged has a weird name or they [TS]

01:04:47   could be going to feel like the meta so [TS]

01:04:49   you know having it as a critique on the [TS]

01:04:51   original Thomas yeah baby Missy's it's [TS]

01:04:54   like tropical I was so culturally [TS]

01:04:56   sensitive so now you exactly [TS]

01:04:59   well I guess we'll find out we want [TS]

01:05:01   because i'm not saying it several months [TS]

01:05:03   after it arrives in theaters will find [TS]

01:05:05   that out [TS]

01:05:06   this is one for the netflix streaming [TS]

01:05:07   queue oh man why I'm putting my money [TS]

01:05:11   right now it's going to be a blockbuster [TS]

01:05:12   hit that's all I'm saying what I did [TS]

01:05:14   feel the same way about pirates the [TS]

01:05:15   caribbean we hang out and was I was [TS]

01:05:18   regretful later that i did not see it in [TS]

01:05:20   theaters because it seemed like the kind [TS]

01:05:21   of film that would have gone very well [TS]

01:05:23   in a theater it was genuinely a good [TS]

01:05:26   movie going experience it's looking at [TS]

01:05:28   me like it's the exception that proves [TS]

01:05:29   the rule though given the other pirates [TS]

01:05:31   movies and given the you know haunted [TS]

01:05:34   mansion with Eddie Murphy and some other [TS]

01:05:37   and the you know [TS]

01:05:38   yeah I I think maybe that was just an [TS]

01:05:40   outlier could be wrong else this could [TS]

01:05:43   be another outline Armie Hammer he seems [TS]

01:05:45   like a perfectly letter for me hammers [TS]

01:05:46   that you know I i was impressed with him [TS]

01:05:48   at the moment where I realized in the [TS]

01:05:51   social network that i actually knew that [TS]

01:05:54   actor because i had seen him on a TV [TS]

01:05:55   show and he didn't have a twin because i [TS]

01:05:58   didn't realize going into that movie [TS]

01:05:59   that it was not to guys like this one [TS]

01:06:01   guy no yeah one guy that's impressive as [TS]

01:06:04   there's some good work there so I'm [TS]

01:06:06   willing to give him a shot because I [TS]

01:06:07   hoped advising I think he's a guy who's [TS]

01:06:10   a who's got a potential to be one of [TS]

01:06:12   those you know i think is a he could be [TS]

01:06:14   a headliner he could be a star [TS]

01:06:16   he could be a star future right it's [TS]

01:06:17   going to feature him as long as the [TS]

01:06:19   world isn't it possible mr. futures [TS]

01:06:21   ahead of him [TS]

01:06:22   I don't know it could be nose and the [TS]

01:06:24   the director who directed the lone [TS]

01:06:25   ranger also directed mousehunt so [TS]

01:06:28   maybe forever Ben ski [TS]

01:06:32   mmhmm yeah he's got a great body of work [TS]

01:06:35   i want to mention at least briefly and [TS]

01:06:38   just since John brother upstream color [TS]

01:06:40   the trailer came out this is a weird [TS]

01:06:42   title for what is probably in a really [TS]

01:06:45   weird movie i find it relevant because [TS]

01:06:48   it's the director of primer which is one [TS]

01:06:51   of my all-time favorite time travel [TS]

01:06:52   movies which he made 410 like 10,000 [TS]

01:06:56   bucks is a perfect the trailer for his [TS]

01:07:00   movie would be just absolutely [TS]

01:07:01   inscrutable like that's this perfect of [TS]

01:07:03   course it you watch it and it you cannot [TS]

01:07:06   tell anything about what the hell it is [TS]

01:07:08   and what it's about it's a relationship [TS]

01:07:13   drama or i guess or is it because the [TS]

01:07:17   the summary is a man and a woman are [TS]

01:07:20   drawn together entangled in the life [TS]

01:07:21   cycle of an ageless organism that that [TS]

01:07:24   summary sounds perfectly fine just goes [TS]

01:07:26   off the rails at the very end you like [TS]

01:07:28   wait what identity becomes an illusion [TS]

01:07:30   as they struggle to assemble the loose [TS]

01:07:31   fragments of wrecked lives that it is a [TS]

01:07:34   baffling trailer that's two of them this [TS]

01:07:37   to this two clips [TS]

01:07:39   yeah watch the two clips and you you get [TS]

01:07:42   that you get to definitely get the same [TS]

01:07:43   feel as primer yeah primer depending on [TS]

01:07:46   how i would like to say yeah whatever i [TS]

01:07:48   think this movie has a very high chance [TS]

01:07:49   of being a terrible train around Green I [TS]

01:07:53   will watch it anyway i'm intrigued [TS]

01:07:55   because shane carruth baby made a movie [TS]

01:07:57   that I really loved and it's presumably [TS]

01:07:59   he got a little bit more money for this [TS]

01:08:01   it's a you know maybe 20001 i don't know [TS]

01:08:05   and i think that the three seconds of CG [TS]

01:08:07   and in the clip it costs more than his [TS]

01:08:09   other movie almost certainly might have [TS]

01:08:12   just you know rendered it himself [TS]

01:08:14   I mean if this is anything to go on but [TS]

01:08:16   uh you know that movie / was in 2004 so [TS]

01:08:20   he's been it's been a long time since he [TS]

01:08:23   had his cult movie before he has gotten [TS]

01:08:27   another movie made but he's got it and [TS]

01:08:29   it's in it at sundance i guess and you [TS]

01:08:32   know it's coming out in march so if the [TS]

01:08:35   world doesn't end and I feel exactly the [TS]

01:08:37   same way John I i fear that this guy is [TS]

01:08:40   here [TS]

01:08:42   the one thing in many made it and a [TS]

01:08:44   decade later he comes back and it's [TS]

01:08:46   probably going to be horrendous but it [TS]

01:08:49   seems to be a trend [TS]

01:08:50   I'm fascinated yeah isn't it but you get [TS]

01:08:52   you get the goodwill like you make a [TS]

01:08:54   movie like like yeah I'm are you get [TS]

01:08:56   I'll go to see your next movie like no [TS]

01:08:57   matter what right do that then we have [TS]

01:08:59   to have a talk and of this time I well [TS]

01:09:01   but you that you know it that's enough [TS]

01:09:04   goodwill to get me to see whatever he's [TS]

01:09:05   gonna do is he's gonna show up have John [TS]

01:09:08   have we talked to have we talked about [TS]

01:09:09   that movie much because i didn't know [TS]

01:09:11   that you actually liked printer primer [TS]

01:09:14   happen when I i love it i've sought back [TS]

01:09:16   way back when we should do an episode [TS]

01:09:18   about that sometime and then we'll be it [TS]

01:09:20   more confused when we end then we start [TS]

01:09:23   because that's a crazy movie but yea [TS]

01:09:27   upstream color [TS]

01:09:28   watch the trailer and you'll be like [TS]

01:09:30   what and watch battles of the trailers [TS]

01:09:32   you don't either one helps [TS]

01:09:33   no well that's what i watch that I [TS]

01:09:35   haven't seen premiere so and I didn't [TS]

01:09:37   even know who this was so I had no idea [TS]

01:09:38   what i was going to see so I'm not the [TS]

01:09:40   first trailer was like I don't [TS]

01:09:42   understand no clear surely the second [TS]

01:09:45   trailer will clear enough [TS]

01:09:46   is there an inscrutable book that we [TS]

01:09:49   need to read before this comes out so we [TS]

01:09:50   don't know the Purcell I understood the [TS]

01:09:53   cloud atlas farmer whose trailer so you [TS]

01:09:56   should you should go rent or stream [TS]

01:09:58   primary you can find it yeah you like it [TS]

01:10:00   Scott [TS]

01:10:01   yes you have to concentrate don't look [TS]

01:10:04   away from the television don't read a [TS]

01:10:06   book while you're watching movie don't [TS]

01:10:08   be afraid to rewind a little bit in the [TS]

01:10:09   beginning when you're wait what had just [TS]

01:10:10   happened there [TS]

01:10:11   good with it to my list of things to [TS]

01:10:14   watch [TS]

01:10:14   yeah alright so that's that's our that's [TS]

01:10:18   our preview of 2013 in the movies that [TS]

01:10:21   will see some of them some of them might [TS]

01:10:24   actually even be good i'm kind of hoping [TS]

01:10:26   actually the Mayans are right after this [TS]

01:10:27   discussion [TS]

01:10:28   yeah so if the world does end we won't [TS]

01:10:32   need to see these movies and if it [TS]

01:10:35   doesn't end I guess our punishment is [TS]

01:10:37   that we do get to see them anyway [TS]

01:10:39   looks like we'll be some good ones and [TS]

01:10:40   bad ones i'm looking forward to 2013 if [TS]

01:10:43   it arrives and we all don't die or [TS]

01:10:47   get exploded by the Sun or something [TS]

01:10:49   like that anyway let's think positive so [TS]

01:10:52   I'd like to thank my guest tonight damn [TS]

01:10:56   orange on siracusa Steve let's Scott [TS]

01:10:59   McNulty thank you all for being here and [TS]

01:11:01   thanks everybody out there for listening [TS]

01:11:03   to the uncomfortable [TS]

01:11:04   happy holidays and we'll see you next [TS]

01:11:06   time [TS]

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