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guys I'm just gonna interrupt for a
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second with some good news we're all
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still here midnight
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oh it's true on the eastern o'clock
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still says a 59 there's a giant robot
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fighting a giant monster outside my
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window but i'm sure that's a good idea
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on Thursday sec right it's true happens
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oh it is there's this it's marrow button
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saddle sign that's right robot thursdays
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the incomparable number 120 December it
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went well
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welcome back to the copper podcast I'm
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your host Jason L I realized as I was
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watching TV and seeing things posted on
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the internet and when I went to see a
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movie a couple of weeks ago that there
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is a ridiculous number of blockbuster
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sci-fi movies coming out this summer
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nickel and i thought i thought it's
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insane it's and I i actually imagine
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them as one big kind of like super movie
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where they were all it just sort of
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smushed together so what what i asked my
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panel to do is uh join me and watching
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the the trailers for these movies and
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talk a little bit about what we
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anticipate what we thought of the
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trailers and and just what we're
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thinking for fruit for stuff we're going
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to see next year so it's like a look
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ahead maybe even some predictions a
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crystal ball or or maybe not joining me
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in this exercise of look uh looking
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forward and looking back are my fine
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fine panels i could not have assembled
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the better group to stand here at the
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end of the world and sum up what we did
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as a species and it starts with Steve
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let's hi Steve hi Jason happy final
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happy end of the world to you too ah I
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feel fine so far anyway it's too early
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to tell
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can't be sure damn morons also here hi
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dan I know it's out there is a lot that
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was the song
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yeah you're gonna you're gonna go out
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with parody song lyrics damn thats not
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like I came in I went out like that once
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it was fun
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John siracusa also joins us hai jaan and
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the ghost of science fiction movie
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disappointment future good excellent
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that's a great costume by the way free
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disappointed really tough to pull off
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you know it's all about the accessories
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you should have put some holes for eyes
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there tho ya episode 7 is not going to
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be that good but you like it ok compared
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to the prequels who the worthy ghost
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he's got lots of information but if you
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come from the future you don't want to
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be cryptic on and and I i neglected to
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mention the most important person here
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tonight which is Scott McNulty because
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he knows the future he comes from the
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future we do what we do what he tells us
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to do because you know
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everything I scott and i have seen the
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future and it is bad oh no that's
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disappointing
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our topic today is the future will be
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reviewing the future it's like it it's a
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letdown
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I'm afraid of it other not as good as we
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had hoped not as good as the book now
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no flying cars where are the flying cars
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where is promised flying colors yeah I
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want my flying car
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yeah I don't need a jet pack that seems
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dangerous flying cars that that would be
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I want to get back i just don't want
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anybody else to have a jetpack i also
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want to find car but don't want anyone
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else to have a fine car i just want the
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tiny little handheld device that allows
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me to video communicate with anybody at
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anytime anywhere around the world would
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not be cool
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that's what I wait for it yeah someday
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video calls maybe yeah
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Impractical never gonna happen now let
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me recap the the movie trailers that we
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assigned to you
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pacific rim which is a coma
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what is it a camera built del Toro
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dangerous google search by the way
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geared guillermo del toro automatically
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different couple gotta you gotta search
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it on on IMDb and don't go beyond that a
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Bolivian which is a Tom Cruise vehicle
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really heard that as a bolivia bolivian
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yes just one
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some might say the Oblivion after earth
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which is not to be confused with titan
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AE no one made that good fusion a saloon
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stands for after artists i saw that
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movie in the theater Jason I know what
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it is that I did to the i saw in the
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movie theater as well
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terrible terrible is not that not just
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weeds finest hour or so it has a couple
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good lines in it but is not a good after
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earth by the way if you're wondering
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directed directed by m night shyamalan
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show the trailer makes no mention of
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this know drew don't know but we'll get
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to that man of steel drill bit
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that's a Superman movie it's like the
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sequel to Superman for the quest for
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peace I believe or maybe not
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and the Lone Ranger was late a late ad
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and I just watch that trailer last night
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and then John suggested we we have some
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bonus credit by talking about a very
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strange thing called upstream color
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which will get to did you forget one
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there are no other star trek into
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darkness yes well it goes without saying
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John and so I didn't actually even open
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the tab because I don't even need to
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look up who's in that I actually never
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back is understood star trek into
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darkness that goes without saying that's
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why Scott is here
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that's right is to talk about star trek
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into darkness
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I wish we started we start with Star
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Trek fan since I forgot it
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yes are all begins with Star Trek it
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does it begins against the Babylon 5
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star trek especially by travelpod five
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the finest of my favorite which they
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make that into a movie so I star trek
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into darkness which is a what the sequel
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to the search removed from i think four
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years ago it's been a little while now
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and it's say the same group it's JJ
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Abrams and his rebooted Star Trek cast
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and of course we get to see in this in
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this trailer
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benedict cumberbatch i like to say his
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name who is Sherlock from BBC sherlock
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and he has an accent as you know you
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would expect from an English actor and
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and yet it seems for sinister now all of
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a sudden when you're really picking up
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on the sinister accent dissected framed
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by friend by sinister I mean the he is
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English and it makes you think he might
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be a villain
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i Justi narrating in the very beginning
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of the trailer is that his 101 in the
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world through screen the full trailer it
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starts with Bruce Greenwoods Chris Pike
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basically saying to Kirk you're you
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you're overconfident you're going to get
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your crew killed and then there's lots
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of shots of of torment and horror and
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aaron who starts the narration in the
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second one
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no that is the second one alright so we
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started the narration in the first one
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but it's just for Benedict Cumberbatch
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and rights and duties are both trailers
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but especially in the first might think
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I swore that it was you know Jean Luc
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Picard his voice to listen to it again
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and see if you don't see Picard's pointy
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bald head and in your mind I mean
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eventually it stops and like I might
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always see that at least every nine
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minutes
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incidentally don't confuse bruce
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greenwood Chris Pike with chris pine's
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James Kirk because that could get
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confusing
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okay well yeah I can see later on that
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doesn't sound like the car
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not anymore but in the beginning it
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totally sounds like the car and was
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throwing me off
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I don't think it does say I think you're
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a line must be drawn here
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not that part and I like this trailer
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because when I think Star Trek I think
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CGI and lots of brooding and red plants
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lots of red rants and running i have a
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couple of issues with a star trek into
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darkness
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I must admit laying on a Scot it starts
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off with the missing colon in the title
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it amazes me that is perfectly into
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darkness deliberately avoided poulin I
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know but I find it incredibly annoying
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it's not really missing it's been it's
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been removed mysterious there's no need
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for a colon this is a star trek into
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darkness you're tracking into darkness
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got the trekking into darkness yes I
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don't like it
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the whole story is about how Benedict
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Cumberbatch deals punctuation
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ok that's Star Trek would suggest
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checking into light generally but
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there's a lot of darkness in between the
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stars is it dark students a dark star
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dark stone that is cracked it
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no its star trek into darkness there's a
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lot of darkness and space between the
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stars thousand Star Trek fan websites
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have not figured it out in one stroke
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we've got it
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it's a dark star that's right track
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movie got there and check it out Humber
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batch is playing a darkest time I feel
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like in the movie title could use
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parentheses to indicate better get
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precedence because we don't know it's
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our tracking darkness or star trek into
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darkness is usually some a comma
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somewhere as well if it's you know star
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trek into into darkness about an
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interrobang would be good starting older
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yes yes
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wow I still stand by my assertion it
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requires a colon and it makes me angry
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that it's not there
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so Scott do you have do you have non
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punctuation related have complaints
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about the trailer
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ah I to punctuation very seriously I
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when I was in college I was a TA for
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creative writing class and i spent like
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two hours talking to these writers about
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how a punctuation was important
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and I think they want to kill me at the
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end of it but I also i don't like the
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fact that the enterprise apparently is a
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submarine now
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yes it is it was in water i don't think
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that was on purpose it's based on James
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Bond's car
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well wasn't it basically submarine
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battle that was going on in the middle
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of Wrath of Khan when they're so it was
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it was it was they weren't actually in
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water the trailer the enterprise's like
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down in the water at one hour and it
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comes out its it that I couldn't really
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keep track of what was happening in the
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trailer it was to jump Cudi and yeah why
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do I always jumping off of tall things I
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mean they did the sort of outer
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atmosphere insertion because the
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transporters were conveniently offline
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and then the first reboot movie right
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now the jumping on anything high they
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see you let's go jump off of Butch and
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Sundance then going on in the future
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that's how you get places fun
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yeah Johnny's Jim what did he did you
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not see the guy jumping blues like two
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months ago
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haven't been keeping up with all the
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Star Trek fan boards but it is a river
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is everyone going crazy over the parent
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dommage to yes Spock dying yes behind
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the glass ceiling
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yes everyone was everyone who was not
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already crazy is now going that's now
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God and say here's the problem with that
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is that wrath of khan had three seasons
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of TV episodes and years of nostalgia
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built up in the interim 44 that to
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actually have some emotional heft and
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this has one dumb Abrams me know I know
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it has all the same television episodes
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plus the original time that they did in
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the other movie another get you know I
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assume it mr. I think it's okay i think
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it's a fake-out I think that isn't
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anything from from JJ Abrams is that
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that you know they would they they made
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sure of exactly what they disclosed in
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all of these trailers and they knew that
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they would be there would be shot by
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shot analysis and I'm sure that that
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shot is an homage to star trek to with
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the two hands what we're talking about
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so like a hand with a blue shirt on one
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side of a a pane of glass and a hand
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with a black shirt on the other side and
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then and sort of try to touch each other
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just like when Spock is dying inside
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attraction when he knows the law and
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prosper yeah but I don't think I think
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it's a fake-out I think that's not what
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we're seeing as i'm i'm not even sure
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this is actually a star trek movie
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I mean there's no way that they're
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killing one of the main the AI wouldn't
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surprise me if like Chekhov dies or
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something but I don't is actually the
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second into darkness film star trek is
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it sort of the second title right before
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the way the air as long as we're talking
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shop by shop right down to anybody
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noticed that check out his brain around
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color shirt
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well maybe resin quote maybe read his
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color but that's why I said check out my
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yeah he's ready to wear your red shirt
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it's a bad sign me he's Russian
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it's a Soviet CD or the other I the
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other friends who think I'm assuming is
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trying to guess who Cumberbatch's yes it
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was going about their you always his con
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and always not Connor he's just I mean I
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assume I again I assume that's a real
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misdirect to he's not going to be calm
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when they get my name John Harrison
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Harrison who is the name of a recurring
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red shirt which does not seem like it
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should be an actual no I i think there's
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maybe a little bit of a fake out there I
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wouldn't be surprised if there's a hurry
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very clever like continuity twist here
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but it's probably not what what what
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fans expect right
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oh man this would be great if he was the
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red shirt who got off to every single
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episode now he's back to have vengeance
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on Curtis is why do you keep letting me
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what a strange world we live in now
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where the movie trailer deliberately
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lies about the film
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well I mean it's a strange world when we
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spend this much time to sector at least
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misleads Steve Steve yes I yes I don't
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movie trailers have always mislead the
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audience and i remember there are lots
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of movie trailers that show scenes that
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end up not in the movie there
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I mean and then they do mislead right in
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the difference the difference is that
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that now trailers for some of the stuff
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like Star Trek they know what scrutiny
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fans are going to give it now they can
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talk to each other on the internet about
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it and so they're they're like trying to
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control the disclosure a little bit more
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but I think it's more about not
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releasing secrets than it is about lying
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about what the movies about I kind of
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enjoyed that makes into a game yeah I
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prefer that to the other one other one
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the non nerd movies giveaway every
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single one point like if it's like
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random action movie with guys with guns
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they just give away everything in the
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whole comedy every funny lines going to
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be in the trailer like you know where at
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least in sci-fi movies they're they're
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holding stuff back
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well i can tell from this that I mean
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star trek the opening to the into
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darkness trailer you hear bruce
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greenwood say you're going to get your
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crew killed and you see Kirk you know
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running through the jungle with mccoy
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and they jump off the cliff and the
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enterprise's underwater and their
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genotype Pinker's coffins and flag right
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well so the coffins if you look at if if
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you were the kind of person who would
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pause the quicktime movie and carefully
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analyzed seen by saying on the most
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would do that if you might notice that
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the coffins are like cryo chamber is
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there like there's ice into the in the
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window besides which who would build a
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window in a coffin
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so you could look at what we bury you
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right so you can see her so you can show
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who's in it before you shoot out of your
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spaceship and so is that one stream the
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face of God when you go into the middle
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of the galaxy so so it's you know but
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but in the if you're not the kind of
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person who freeze frames it just it
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suggestion because there's a missing man
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formation kind of fly over and there's a
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folding of a flag and then they show
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those tubes and it's like you got lots
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of people killed and you know i'm pretty
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sure that's not what that shot actually
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is used as in the movie but it serves a
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different purpose in the trailer to make
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the story arc here really like Kirk
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you're overconfident you're gonna be in
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trouble and then the other part is
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Benedict Cumberbatch saying i will have
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my vengeance and that's your ass and
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collecting was with that Patrick Stewart
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I just heard i'm telling you listen I
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line must be drawn here but I give extra
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credit to the blonde screaming girl
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who's on camera okay and you get to see
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inhale look directly into the camera now
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do your big screen that you're horrified
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it's like the most sort of
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over-exaggerated theatrical parody of a
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woman looking into the camera and
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screaming but it's so good i think it
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wraps around the other side it becomes
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like so bad it's good to very Linda it's
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very it's very James type shot someone's
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got an animated gif out there of that by
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the way but it's just you can just watch
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your scream over and over again poor
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Alice Eve unless you think the lens
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flares were going away there's
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no there don't worry and there and the
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rumor is that she's playing dr. Carol
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Marcus was of course the mother of
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Kirk's child and star trek to but I mean
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not just universe maybe not know it's a
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diversion timeline is as as we learned
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i'm excited about this because I really
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did like the the first JJ Abrams Star
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Trek movie and I like the cast and
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Benedict Cumberbatch is great and again
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Benedict Cumberbatch so I just have to
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say and dick Cumberbatch chandan
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Cumberbatch Cumberbatch yeah there is
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lens flare in this trailer so we know we
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know that that is gonna going to stay
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so are you worried Jason that too much
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of this movie will take place not in
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I I never felt I I've seen see are you
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sure you haven't been on the on the fan
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sites for Star Trek because this is one
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of those complaints that I saw in the
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message thread it at trek movie com
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where they did the scene by scene
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analysis the JFK style back into the
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left back and to the left of the of the
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trailer the crim criminology of the star
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trek trailer there are people like I'm
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doctor who fans do this to dads I don't
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I want to see space i don't wanna see
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planets I wanted to outer space iCarly
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you want to see the enterprise in space
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fighting space but it's in water instead
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you don't want to see the enterprise in
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what the enterprise is in space in this
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trailer and does n is is getting blasted
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I mean you can't tell what the ratios
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are going to be from the trailer but I
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like I can take some amount of them
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running around an alien planets and
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jumping off buildings but i wanted i
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would rather have more of it be about
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flying around in ya face where they're
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supposed to supposed to be a spaceship
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well but the vast majority of the
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original series there on the biggest
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race just because that model is very
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fragile and they make the strings that
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held the break I think Abrams is smart
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enough to know that the enterprise in
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and of itself is kind of a character so
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you know in the way that something like
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the Millennium Falcon is so I mean I
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think that the the illuminating shot as
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far as that goes in the trailer is the
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zoom in over the bridge would like the
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empty seats and everything like that
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right i don't think i'm not too worried
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about it so I I actually you know in the
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the imax version of The Hobbit
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apparently has a nine-minute the opening
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scene of star trek into darkness in it
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and in that scene
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you know when they're running through
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the red stuff on that planet and jumping
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off the cliff I mean that's basically
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how the movie opens yeah it looks like a
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James Bond opening yeah but the idea is
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right it's like it's like a star TV
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series when we rejoin these people who
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we last saw on that first movie they're
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on a mission it's a star trek episode
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right there in the middle of a dangerous
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mission on a planet and so you get some
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of that kind of feel of like this is
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what they do they're doing their their
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adventures that they have and then the
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plot kicks into gear at some point and
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then it's the cold open
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yeah exactly exactly my main worry for
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this and it's going to come up in the
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other trailers as well as that a lot of
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these franchises I feel like recently
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have lost their way when it comes to the
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antagonist like yeah whatever the threat
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like they're good at establishing the
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characters and having interesting stuff
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them to do with into some point there's
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some sort of existential threat to the
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earth to the crew to whatever you know
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the the main bad guy thing and they're
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stuck in a rut of like the single man
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seeking revenge or just like something
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done that doesn't fit with the series
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like he wants to you know get all the
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gold in the world like wait is it our
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track you know that's where these movies
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fall down they get everything else so
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right and they just can it is difficult
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the threat and it better not be done or
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we get sad like if I like be the first
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reboot star trek movie but the bad guy
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what's implied here and there was a you
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the studio released it's sort of like
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he's you know he's seeking he's seeking
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his vengeance and and really you know
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hopefully how many of these single guy
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who is very angry because Nero in the
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original JJ Abrams Star Trek was you
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know he was very angry and there was a
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really boring reason why he was angry
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it would he was not that interesting and
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I got blown up so dog and and these
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enemies loan guys always have the
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ability to orchestrate the entire
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universe
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oh yeah around like that you've got you
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know Starfleet the entire Starfleet and
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the crew the best crew of the best ship
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don't understand i 5 plans at all ahead
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army of ships or whatever you like some
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this thing you know somehow Nero's one
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guy wanted to send out a million ships
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and blow up no actually he blues all of
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you up be slightly from the future and
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weapons are little better and that tips
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the balance likes you have how can you
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make him scary like that's like the
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wrath of khan work kind of this because
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it was more of a personal vendetta
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thinking about you know he doesn't care
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about he's not trying to take over the
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university just want revenge on on on
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Kirk right and so least the stakes are
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smaller but I get the feeling this guy's
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like I want to blow up the world and you
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can't stop me or something that that's
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that's the thing that worries me the
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most about this movie as much as I love
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small good Sherlock well I mean I i
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don't know i think i think i mean there
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Vengeance aspect of it does seem to me
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like they're trying to make it a little
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more personal based on based on the
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little i've read from the synopses and
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stuff like that which which makes sense
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because i think if you follow sort of
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what JJ Abrams did with the first Star
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Trek movie it was very much a more
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personal show in area or more personal
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story in the way that a lot of the
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classic episodes are much more cerebral
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fiction from that age where it's like
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here's an interesting like more whole
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societal question that we're going to
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delve into but i think you know JJ
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Abrams is clearly i think he was
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influenced a lot by things like Star
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Wars which are you know have a more
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personal arc to a lot of their stories i
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think then you know the star trek movies
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i think no more in that direction as
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well they tend to be much more about the
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characters and about personal stories
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for those characters hour or about space
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probe showing up and really being like
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what up earth if we're going to screw up
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yeah but what about what has chris
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pine's Kirk done to to justify vengeance
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by me Spock fine Spock was you know how
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to hold seven eight movies whatever
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stuff and then you go back in time with
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young one but who is so mad at Kirk
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already that he's kind of like blow up
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the entire universe
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to get in my cheating on that test and
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everything one of the one of the
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suggestions right at least the trailer
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suggesting that he he gets you know he
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gets people killed and that might be a
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motivation for it but it may be that
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he's not out for vengeance against Kirk
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he's out for vengeance against the
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Federation or something like that that's
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a little less personal 22 Kirk Kirk just
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ends up having to be the you know
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they're the only ship in the quadrant or
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whatever because it's always only them
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who can stop the this funny how that it
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makes the board's motivation you know
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sound like high-minded and crystal-clear
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it's like one of the bar great do with
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the Borg do and but you know you don't
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look everything over right like it's in
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their nature but the people it's like
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you know you killed my father prepare to
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die he's got some kind of personal
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motivation it's making them a chase
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after this youngstarr fee click crew
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I don't know who were pissed them off in
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a transmission one day she was
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translated so she closed the hailing
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frequencies and they're really bird now
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i have not seen either i've not seen the
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first Star Trek film how many times does
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chris pine lose his shirt you know he
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doesn't lose his shirt
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this is an alternate universe but yes it
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is well they changed the timeline and
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now he keeps the shirt on a little bit
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although he does do some some of the
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fist fighting that are that's that you
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know slightly Shatner argo tea still the
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sign of ultimate evil in this new
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universe to be dead i think that's a
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spoiler i think that's to be determined
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we were not treated we don't know you
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should watch the the rebooted Star Trek
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its side it's fun it's fun
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that's I think that's oh yeah a good
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movie it's funny but that's exactly the
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thing that they said in the trailers for
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star trek the movie and that was an
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ongoing not fun and I want to go on
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note note Scott little room as a kid
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that says yeah it's fun and that's all
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he has to say about the film and as he
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stares off into the middle distance
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exactly right
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that's fine fun yeah whatever can I go
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home can you give me my 10 bucks now
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it's fun there were lights and stuff
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no it's good it's it's it's a difficult
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job i ate it was really nice to see
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because i want to do a whole episode
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about that maybe as we get closer to the
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colon being inserted into into darkness
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so that
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hello yeah I know colon insertion so one
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of the one of the nice things about the
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JJ Abrams reboot is that you know we
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haven't seen these characters in their
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prime since you know since before never
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all born right it was since the sixties
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before America was in its prime they
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were already pretty doughy and punchy by
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the time we encountered them in TOS yeah
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and and then the movie series is all
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about them getting old I mean it was
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really like those with the themes was
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them getting old so to see and you know
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in the in recent incomparable i
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complained about how superhero movies
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are always about origin stories
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what is fun about star track is that it
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was an origin story we actually hadn't
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seen before we you know we never seen
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the young crew of the enterprise meeting
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for the first time and it kind of really
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i mean we work for me it really
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reinvigorated it even though yeah eric
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bana is kind of boring as the villain
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whose motivation is at what at the same
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time obscure and also kind of
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ridiculously simple you blow my planet
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now I will kill everybody
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ok whatever i have a ship i have a
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mining ship that also has lots of
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weapons because in the future
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mining is really dangerous and you need
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super weapons in order to mine things
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you want to get things out of the ground
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Jason it's best to do so from space if
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the miners from the Alien films had had
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superweapons things would have gone
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differently
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yeah so maybe there's something to that
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yeah Nero mining company are we sure
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this movie isn't actually an alien
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prequel could hardly be worse than the
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other alien prequel Damon Lindelof did
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write the screenplay with the guys who
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did it last time so he you know the man
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responsible for prometheus is partially
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redundant best to ruin every cherished
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franchise it is possible get a month get
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them on the Star Wars any other thoughts
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about Star Trek before we move on
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looking forward to it yeah me too me too
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I'll see it
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ok contrast think he's got your very
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well it got my must I contractually
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obligated to see well then I'll start
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into darkness you've scored one
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reluctant viewer Scott's gonna run up to
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the front of the the screening
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and and pencil in Colin's when the title
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comes on right so sir please sit down
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yeah don't write on the screen I let's
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talk about man of steel the the superman
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reboot because the last Superman movie
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superman returns was essentially a
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sequel to Super Man 2 and it didn't do
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well enough for them to continue down
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that path so they've got they've got
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Zack Snyder director of watch men ate
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the much-beloved watch men nobody didn't
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like that movie don't mention that I and
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I and actually yes that's true it was it
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let's take its controversial not not
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widely loved we might all agree on one
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thing which is it was a it was a great
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look in movie
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yes it was any makes grants trail movies
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that look great as trailers we also have
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to do is zack snyder director of the
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opening five minutes of watching yeah
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exactly and and produced by christopher
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nolan and screenplay a David Goyer has a
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screenplay credit so there's some
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interesting people involved with this
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movie and it is a speaking of
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superheroes with origin stories there
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are a big part of this trailer that are
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you know young Clark lifts a bus out of
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the river and his dad Kevin Costner
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tells him that if he builds it no that's
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not what he tells me tells me tells him
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maybe he shouldn't have saved those kids
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and he should stay hidden
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uh-huh but he goes to you know and you
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know he goes to the the Arctic and he
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puts on a big red tape as you do again
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with the brooding I mean we had Batman
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Begins and here we have Superman mopes
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I've heard Jason's complained about the
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origin story thing and I I mean maybe
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it's because I don't read any comics
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don't know anything about this but that
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is the maybe the only thing that's
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interesting to Superman to me about
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Superman is not so much the origin
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stories of how they become Superman but
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what he's going to do with this life
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say all right what can we do that we
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we have to throw Lex Luthor
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members like you have to throw something
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me you can't do that for I don't make
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one good movie out of that John you
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smallville then those are just made for
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you yeah well because i know i don't
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like that don't like saying hey we got
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Superman and he's way overpowered and we
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have to put something in there too for
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there to be parallel so like we can have
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a romantic relationship being parallel
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you have the earth being paralyzed much
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rather see him figuring out like and you
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can only do this once i hope this is a
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good movie average pressure to see him
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growing up in figuring out i have these
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superpowers what does that mean for me
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is the person what what do i do with my
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life to hide them do i use them for good
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do I keep out of it do it people hate me
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do people like me because the emotional
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stakes of like his ego as you know not
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wanting to feel alien and not wanting
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people to dislike him but also thinking
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has a responsibility to help people and
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all the events along the way where he
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makes good or bad decisions about using
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his powers are not using that's like the
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only thing that's interesting about
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Superman for me so I that I want to see
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this movie I love this trailer i think
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like us on twitter i think this trailer
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is way better than this movie is going
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to be which is making that but i really
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love this trailer hit all the right
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notes for me it just looking you know it
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looks fantastic
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all the things i said this trailer the
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things i like about Superman so
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obviously you feel different maybe
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having read like origin stories a
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hundred times and maybe maybe you're
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recognizing the exact events these are
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pulled from the comic books and it's
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killing it for you but it's not knowing
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if Superman's origin is more interesting
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than most of the heroes origins and i
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have to say as somebody who's not a huge
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Superman fan i think his origin is is in
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many ways more interesting than once
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he's just all powerful right and that's
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why smallville mind a lot out of him
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learning to deal with his powers because
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those are interesting
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Superman stories and and and you know
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it's a lot less interesting to tell the
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Batman origin again which is that his
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parents died and then he was really mad
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for a while and then he made some props
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best movie because i didn't know his
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like how does he decide what to do with
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the same kind of what this is about
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isn't it
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his parents Superman's parents dying in
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a planetary explosion yes it's true and
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in here he seems kind of mad he seems
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more like emo LOL then he's emo about
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about what he's easy about being the
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kid on the new grocery you never knew
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what she was really works on a boat is
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like the longshoremen of steel
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I don't know it for Batman has been
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about about brooding and and darkness
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for a while now Superman has always been
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kind of more light for me so it's it's
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weird to see this trying to be squeezed
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into that that round hole if he's
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invulnerable how can you shave that
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beard that he grows he uses lasers
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kryptonite raises his own laser vision
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to show you did you did you never yet
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you never watched Lois and Clark I did
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actually have a little mirror and uses
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laser vision to heat vision
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so yeah I think we can all agree that
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Superman is a pretty boring character
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but the the thing about Superman is that
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he's always sure of himself which is why
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i find this trailer so annoying because
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he's uh there's no god I've all-powerful
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what should i do should i should i guess
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Kevin Costner's right i should let kids
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die because that's right baby always
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what you'd rather do you want him to be
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like I mean even in the original
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superman movie yeah I want to see
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Superman beating people up and flying
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around shooting lasers out of his eyes
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I'm sure he'll do some of that but I'm
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gonna be arguing indestructible I don't
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want to see him handcuffed by soldiers
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hello unless those handcuffs are made of
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kryptonite
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yeah they all right don't you want to
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see him like you don't want to do
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something to help our they're fighting
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people all the time you want to see him
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overcome something like I mean think
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about the matrix that you don't see Neil
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be all-powerful to the end of the movie
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and if you just all powerful the
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beginning but Superman is always
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all-powerful Superman is lame you have
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to embrace the lameness because he's
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all-powerful so he can find out how to
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say despite the fact that the last movie
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was not very good the first ten minutes
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in ten minutes of it are actually pretty
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great in terms of these the airplane
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yeah i think that i like that i don't i
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like that because I think it's a scene
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of yeah you're all powerful but it
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doesn't mean you can't necessarily do
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write anything like he's trying to stop
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a plane from crashing it's like turns
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out that's really hard even if you can
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fly and you're really strong but he can
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fly backwards around the world and
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change drug never had a time back
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terrible every movie has its I I
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honestly don't have high hopes for this
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but as long as there's no Margot Kidder
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internal monologue
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I think it's probably much haha come
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before ya know i think it's i think
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there's something promising about it so
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you know one of the funny things is that
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and I talked about this on a spider-man
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show with with dandy superhero costumes
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are ridiculous right and with like the
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x-men they tried to put them in the
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leather outfits and and Batman sort of
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makes sense right because he really is
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kind of all the gadgets tree so he has
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some armor when he's just a dude to
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write raised just a guy so the Ministry
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of Steel trailer i really liked it but
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there is that moment where you're
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looking at a oh he's from another place
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he has power
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what will he do what will he decide and
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then there's a guy in a big billowing
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red k yeah I heard you on that show and
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I could not believe that you said that
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again I'm not a dandy is the comical guy
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and I'm not but it's my understanding
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that Cape in that outfit or his clothes
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from Krypton it's not like he decided to
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dress up like a crazy person to keep
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throwing up for all we know on Krypton
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this like a business type or maybe
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that's like nike athletic swear yeah it
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looks crazy to us but is there his alien
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close they're not you know him he came
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to earth as an infant in those gigantic
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close no they were brought with them but
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surely his parents packed clothes from
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the easier your baby you're going in
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this little spaceship thing off the
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earth and we're going to pack some
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clothes for you that's like our mats
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formal attire and crumbly just replicate
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to get a good education you should see
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is you should see his kryptonite rattle
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everything is all we gotta pack the good
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big the new record not that not the old
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jor-el that old que no I got a new one
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down at the department store is that not
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correct comic book people i mean they're
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right there are multiple there are
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multiple merit versions of how the
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senile but that's what it seemed like in
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the original superman the origin story i
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read as a kid which was from like a
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polite treat paperback it was there is
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blankets from the shuttle and it and
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then ma can't sew them into establish
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yes exactly like Betsy Ross yeah but
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either way I don't think it's a choice
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like I'm going two hundred i look like a
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big old clown like when I I understand
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your mind that we've been known about
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the story reasoning I'm just saying that
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that you've got this attempt to make it
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a little
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bit more of a take on his psychology but
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in the end he Superman he's gonna have a
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big bill we red cape and you can't you
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can't get away from I think I think he
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should but what a tonal shift that is
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well they had a long talk I think before
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this movie about whether or not he would
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actually wear a cape
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no he's gotta where you can have
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Superman without what I'm just saying I
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mean I i don't disagree with that but i
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think i think they spend a lot of time
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talking about because this is sort of
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the Christopher Nolan influenced a creer
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it's like I was gonna be more realistic
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well would you really wear a cape seems
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like it's caught a lot of things you
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don't know they spent the nineties
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putting capes on every single person
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with a machine gun and sunglasses in
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every movie you think you're gonna take
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the tape off what keeps our awesome
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looking slow-motion can't flattering I
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mean so there's gonna have double spy on
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the background was watching the wrong
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movies in the nineties apparently i
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never understood why he has an S on I
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mean he's Superman but if that is his
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alien close why would there be is not an
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S they don't use Roman numerals the
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alien mother symbol of his family or or
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something huh
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it's it's a some alien logo and it just
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happens to look like our earth s there's
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a lot of redcon going going on that my
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point is just that it's a big tonal
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shift that that it's difficult if you're
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a filmmaker and you want to bring some
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more realism to it because in the end
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you've got a guy wearing red boots and a
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big red billowy Cape who can fly but
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because he was made in the thirties and
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that was the you know like it right like
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you're kind of stuck with that was my
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dad is the same way they try with that
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costume too and it's I think this
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strikes a better balance in spider-man
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biggest spider man when it's 2-2 like
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red tights it looks bad
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I and when it's completely black it
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looks bad and so does really enjoyed
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your brand really seems in both the
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first spider-man movie the same rainy
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one and the more recent one where he
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runs around in like you know like swag
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out sweatshirt hoodie footpath yeah like
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I like you know what I would watch an
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entire movie with a guy walking around
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that costume because like you're not
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gonna take the time to go to home a can
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make a costume
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well that fits for spider-man because
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that's his cat spider man's character is
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more like he's just kid and he doesn't
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know what he's doing Superman is
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supposed to eventually embrace his you
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know who he really is and he Superman
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comes with like his own kit of stuff
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from his home planet like he's got the
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whole what I mean a starter kit because
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you're awarded the big whatever that is
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its fortress
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solitude and his little girls got a
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spaceship and studies guys got a comb to
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get that little like little countless
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girls got DVDs and Marlon Brando I mean
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he's got everything in there
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yeah Superman hair gels the best really
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keeps it in place got great hold that
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spaceship was really equipped instant
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food what were they thinking
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yeah so anyway I still think this movie
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could be terrible because notice they
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don't show you anything about the
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antagonist maintain this could be really
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really dumb they doing they shouldn't be
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the generals on yak the Joker again it's
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a con on I think he's Khan I think so
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too i forget what if it was Superman
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fighting a dragon that's all I'm saying
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I would watch that to anything with
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dragons that actually would be a pretty
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cool reboot if they threw Superman into
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some sort of that like my sources again
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he would still be able to defeat dragons
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and whatnot
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yeah yeah what you mean Superman where
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can you go you if once you defeat his
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own self-doubt and emotional
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insecurities all you've got left is
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kryptonite and so like everything has to
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be made of kryptonite ok so let's let's
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drop them into a a post nuclear
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holocaust world or or maybe where we're
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at huge volcanic super volcano has
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erupted and blind certainly blocks out
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the Sun for most of yeah most of the day
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with me just find 1a by the way that the
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George the UH jor-el dvds are now
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Russell Crowe and not Marlon Brando
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russell crowe is the new general so
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that'll be great
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his father's his father's are russell
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crowe and kevin costner least I'll be
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able understand what the hell he's
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saying i'm packing unpacking some long
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yeah I'm a king inside the rest keep
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special occasion
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oh and speaking of Jason show without
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with andy the other quibble ladders with
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the and he's not on here with Jason can
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go in his stead
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it didn't and he say on that show that
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you're talking about what was the
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disguise and was the real athlete and he
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said that Superman's outfitted with the
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s and the Cape that's his disguise and
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Clark Kent is who he really is he's
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talking about who the real not the
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outfit so much as who the real person
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right the kill that's the kill bill why
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don't kill does the reverse kill bill
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Clark campuses disguise and when he's
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Superman that's just wearing again like
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I said wearing street clothes from
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Krypton but and he said the reverse I
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want to know if there was some sort of
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comic book the justification for that
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interpreted he corrected me i'm not sure
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i'm not sure about Superman I'm on the
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fence about the Batman very definitely
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the Bruce Wayne is a put-on because he's
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this kind of millionaire jerk and that's
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not really is she's never like that now
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yeah no no I i I've say that the killed
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interpretation is correct from my
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understanding of Superman purely from
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the movies that he's acting like Clark
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Kent to the best he's not actually like
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that and that he lets that down and
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shows what he's really like when he puts
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on when he's super jammies from Krypton
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and yes this is actually me and I'm not
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actually a bumbling idiot who exactly is
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this keeps fundamentals you step aside
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right but there's no definitive I mean
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smallville is right is the reverse right
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smallville is the story of the of the
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guy but I but generally yeah those are
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those famous movies from the the late
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seventies and early eighties yeah Clark
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is a put-on he's this fake bumbling you
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know guy with glasses so that nobody
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knows that he is really Superman but
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look strikingly similar but the classes
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throw you
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let's let's let's go from zack snyder to
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guillermo del toro who has a movie out
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in 2013
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if we survive and if man is still alive
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I called Pacific Rim which I had never
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even heard of this movie until I saw the
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trailer of it because my Twitter feed
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blew up with nerdy people going oh my
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god you gotta watch this trailer and
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it's a and then I realized why when I
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watched it because when i was a kid
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there were these toys called shogun
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warriors which were like big Japanese
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robots and then you know you had your
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Godzilla toys and they were actually
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sold as a toy set i think in fact and in
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watching the Pacific Rim trailer i said
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to myself this is a movie from somebody
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who had the exact same toys i did when i
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was a kid because it's a movie where big
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robots battle against giants sea lizards
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from mocospace finally answers the
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question that all of us you know my
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friends and I had when we were in high
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school watching a bunch of money which
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is how come no one's made a good move
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live-action movie with giant robots
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well this this is why they've never
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never been a good movie because that's
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possible right it seems like way so
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negative so negative as much as I love
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all the things in this movie and al
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Malaki where the girl was a good
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director
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I know I really like him you know I have
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high hopes but like for first of all you
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know then it's from watching all that
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animate do you think these these neck
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designs stand up to the best neck
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designs from anime because i don't think
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they did not know looks kinda like the
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master chief doesn't know it looks like
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i don't know what it looks like it's not
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i mean really if you're going to make a
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giant robot why even really make it in
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the shape of a person that seems really
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what like if you're gonna make it a
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shame a person making the shape of
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really cool privacy okay filling red
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cape would be awesome LOL look at the
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casting this movie is crazy though it's
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got Jack's from Sons of Anarchy it's a
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stringer Bell yeah the type of celba
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he's awesome
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I mean by gladwell some reason yeah
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house for some crazy reason with the
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exact same voice which makes no sense
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same actress same vocal effect weird as
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very odd i mean it's clearly the fact
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that it's done so clearly as an homage
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like it has to be like I know that he
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hired her after out must have licensed
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it because that I got actors you know
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like the valve could sue them if there
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was this wasn't some sort of a handshake
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agreement at the very least because it's
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like trade dress you know you've got
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glad us in this movie I think we're
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seeing some video game tions real
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obvious ones coming soon but it doesn't
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make any said but what it has to make
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sense its shadow of the colossus vs
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Voltron why do you keep slow it's not
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it's it's more like a you know sort of
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occult demons coming from they're not
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they're not space aliens they're more
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like interdimensional portal right
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Hellmouth kind of but they're they're
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coming out of the rift in the sea
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godzilla-like I mean that's pretty much
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where Godzilla emerged yeah yeah and
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this that robots are basically ultraman
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will there's nothing there fighting the
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Cloverfield monster but what's this
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movie about though i did i did laugh at
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the at the narration the very serious
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narration the beginning of this movie
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which is you know I think intended Iraq
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against the weed there we thought the
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aliens would come from applause but
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instead they came from a rift in the sea
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ok dammit we were looking in the wrong
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direction
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I've decided like that makes all the
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difference
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instead what we had planned so
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thoroughly for we're looking in the
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wrong place
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I it's bizarre right and then and then
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they cut to the end but fortunately we
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have guys in drug giant robot suits you
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can fight them you know just in case i'm
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really looking forward to them
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explaining why it takes two of them a
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man yeah they learned nothing it has to
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be angsty teenage boys it doesn't work
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with adults
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I'm just saying eight-year-old me is
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very excited to see this movie that's
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what we need like my problems like what
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is this movie about aliens attack and we
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fight them off and they gonna try to
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make personal stakes but it's gonna be
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love interest it's like there's no plot
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that's what have you seen battleship i
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know i have I looked at this and thought
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this is this is the thinking man's
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transformers which I looked at this and
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I thought this is the slightly better
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property transformers because
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transformers are boring this could be
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more interesting but yeah this thing's
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got the same problems I don't do I care
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about any of these characters do I care
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for the earth gets destroyed they don't
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even transform them and there's know
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that they're there was that movie last
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year that was like the the robots that
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fight each other and the guys who
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control them know that Hugh Jackman real
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steel wheels i saw part of that yeah
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yeah so this is sort of like what if
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Real Steel was like really big and fight
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Godzilla yeah I often wonder what now
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you will find out I like Jax teller i
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like stringer Bell
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I don't like this mech designs so I'm i
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don't think it is like the other movies
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that we've done so far I think I'll go
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see those in the theater this one
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already is on netflix queue I want to
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move onto to find movies that i really
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am starting to think of as one
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additional after back-to-back as
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trailers at the hobbit it was hilarious
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after oblivia oblivia after looking at
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the end there's a Tom Cruise place that
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Lillian not to be confused with the
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Bolivians love with Tom Cruise is will
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smith son and his movies are going to be
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very different though don't you in the
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trailers the same but the movies are
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going to be crazy different probably but
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but definitely yes in one tom cruise
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will mug and the other one will smith
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will mug Tom Cruise a droid repair man
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Yama has long lingering shots that take
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forever and the other one will be like
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chop chop chop it will be totally
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different you know what channel movies
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are like they are not like
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increase action movies and tone i think
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i think the interesting thing about will
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will smith and Tom Cruise that they
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basically have such a similar you know
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presence in terms of the box office
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right there both these guys who was like
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well you're kinda gonna watch them
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playing more or less themselves in
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whatever movie there in because they're
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just reading this thing about Tom Cruise
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the other day was like you know you're
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generally speaking yes don't but they're
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clearly in size they're a little bit
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different but it's you know the the
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you're not expecting them to go in like
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playing a particularly compelling
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character really you're going to watch
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Tom's Tom Cruise or Will Smith your butt
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said Tom Selleck or tom selleck I would
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I think it's all different
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I mean the mustache I think will smith
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is because does a better job of being a
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character you're right it is usually
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mostly will smith the like it's the same
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character he doesn't much better job
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being a terrorist Tom Cruise is there to
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play tom cruise like it doesn't matter
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what the character is they're all
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someone suggested like maybe just view
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isn't the entire photography from the
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last decade as he's basically Ethan Hunt
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undercovering the different prints you
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know when I saw the after earth trailer
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I thought he would reminded me of will
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smith from i am legend that's the will
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smith that i thought was in a movie like
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but you know i like that i am legend for
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the most part I liked that it was slower
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pace that will smith goes thought I was
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really hoping for the will smith from
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The Fresh Prince of bel-air you want a
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little wrapping smell you later earth
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so but i read i read something about
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after earth in that will smith is killed
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very quickly in the movie and it really
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focuses on Jaden Smith which you would
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never get get that was that was my
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guests from the trailer because I was
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not here like this trailer seems to have
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a lot of this kid who I don't know
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anything about and not so much will
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well dude do you like Will Smith because
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it's his son I know that knowing that
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this is josh hamilton movie even though
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the trailer doesn't admit that and in
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the trailer there's like a scene where I
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I could swear that i'm seeing will smith
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get blown out of the spaceship right
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obviously lives mass that right soso and
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then and then yeah they land on the
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planet and all that and I'm thinking it
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is this a ghost that only the kid can
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see is the hologram they did that one
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already just like well please state the
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nature of your medical emergency
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I gotta say I'm really interested by the
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whole aspect of the not promoting the
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director and i will say that because i
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was in a movie theater when they showed
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what was the terrible thing he didn't
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even direct it was the one he produced
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the one that's like in the elevator
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hello right right away idea and they put
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up like produced by m night shyamalan
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everyone you know I was in the theater
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where everybody boo'd and I was like
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I've never seen that happen as well I've
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never seen that happen to anybody else
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like to any other director in the
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history of me going to movies only one
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hour from the only seventeen times and
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people start to get cranky yeah like
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which is usually I think he's generally
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a very good director I he's made some
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some flawed movies but i think i would
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still take him over a Michael Bay or is
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brett ratner I mean like he's a
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thoughtful director who makes traveling
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so Michael Bay has has his core audience
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of meatheads who just want to see stuff
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blow up like but Shyamalan has like the
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sort of you know people who are more
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interested in like slow pacing in the
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craft and suspense epidemic into the
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same thing over and over again those
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people though like they're not they're
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not like the you know like the well they
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all like 26 travel and earlier movies
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better you know they're just everybody
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know but they don't like the sixth sense
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and they said i can go see another movie
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while this is like the 6th sense but not
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as exciting and we'll see another one
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while this is also like success but not
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as good like is there to it was too much
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sameness and every genre he did he
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treated that same
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way like this slope a serious thing I
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mean yeah they totally short but I mean
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like you could say the same thing about
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Hitchcock I mean right but Hitchcock was
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much much better
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he's got a crazy Hitchcock is better
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there's no question about that i'm just
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saying that there are a lot of directors
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who tend to make the same movie over and
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over again with the same tonal type of
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move that his style is very
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off-the-beaten packet
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off-the-beaten-path kind of like like
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Spielberg makes the same kind of like
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the way he directs his movies have that
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same feel to them but it's like a feel
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good feel and shamans feels like listen
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I know you might feel like you're
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getting bored but stay with me and if
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you lose you for a second you drift out
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of its like a riskier style you know but
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that night the fact that got to such a
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point that it encourages people to boo
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like that is not the reaction you have
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like with her oh i'm bored by this movie
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and you do it well he got offended also
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by the twist thing where it's like all
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right so that the first movie had a
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twist and you're never going to be
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retwisting like you can't out Chris
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himself and select the village had was a
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twister like I was not not this big
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twist the sixth sense you know like an
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unbreakable cycle that wasn't barely
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even twist because the sudden get what's
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going on here like he got me typecasting
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I don't I i don't agree with that
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characterization of his of his arc
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because I i think people hate him
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because of maybe because of the village
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but really because what happened after
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that with lady in the water that
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happening in the last airbender well
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that happening I'd forgotten the reason
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why did you have to remind me that is a
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terrible movie science was a hit
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unbreakable was was disappointing for
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the sixth sense financially but is his
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best movies signs was terrible to that's
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great your breakables agreement and
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science was a science was successful he
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kept making movies like signs he would
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be like michael bay because he would be
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making movies that make lots of money i
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really like lady in the water honestly
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and I think I've heard of that was I saw
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it way after yes when you can I don't
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see and I thought that is actually
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really good it has its problems it
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definitely has now and not before
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Giamatti and enter your expectations
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have been set extremely low at that
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point well because if you looked at if
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you looked at the the trailers in the
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marketing they did for it's totally not
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the movie that their marketing like
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that's the other thing that's very odd
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about is their marketing very much like
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horror suspense II you know like M night
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Shyamalan movie and it's you know it's a
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fairytale and I think
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if you look at it from a different
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perspective you know in terms of you
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know what they're promoting versus what
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the movie actually is
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it's a much better movie than they
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promoted it but I think everybody went
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into it expecting it to be you know an M
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night Shyamalan movie and yeah it has
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that slow deliberate pacing and
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everything like that but it's not the
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movie that was advertised and i know
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right i think this reminds like sku I
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relationship with the critical of
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everything and that's the big Swan that
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would be if anything is that his he
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clearly felt maligned by the critics and
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decided to take it out on them in the
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movie literally a really a really bad
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that was a mistake like cut that whole
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subplot in that movie is actually one of
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his best movies but the reason I boo and
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complained about the shower and stuff is
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because i really really like them
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breakable and that was such a high like
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this like one of the best superhero
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movies I've ever seen period and you
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know six cents was fine whatever not my
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cup of tea but after unbreakable I
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thought boy like you know six cents
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popular hit and now i can break was like
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wow he's really like this guy's taking
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it to another level and then it was just
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a series of disappointments following
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that and I'm like come on man
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where's that guy is unbreakable he's not
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so they night Shyamalan lives around
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Philadelphia some films a lot of things
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that explains a lot actually it went
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that's true and so I the happening he
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was filming happening in many locations
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in Philadelphia and so I was uh I live
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in downtown Philadelphia and there's a
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park near me call Rittenhouse Square and
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unbeknownst to me I they were filming
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there is one of the locations and one
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day I was walking to work and it was
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like October i'm guessing i was gonna or
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november and so I cut through
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Rittenhouse Square and I thought it was
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odd because it was the fall and there's
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a lot of people is not an lining the
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square and no III didn't actually meet
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anyone how who were season that dress
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appropriately for the season and there
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are people who are having picnics in the
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morning and I thought this is odd and
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they were not none of them were moving
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which I also thought was a hot but I
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kept walking through and some guy ran up
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to me with a clipboard he said sorry you
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can't walk through here and that's what
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I mean this is how you get to work years
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ago were filming happening for filming a
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terrible research
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just had someone to be this movie so
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that's my story is not very good story
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but i had to because Glenn would have
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gone to lunch with them I was hoping I
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was hoping you were going to see you
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know whole bunch of people like
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spontaneously hope that stuff that would
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have been extremely creepy that's not
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that unusual in Philadelphia either or
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group or just throwing em night
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Shyamalan that's true did I didn't know
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I didn't know I didn't know that
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happening was in Oblivion Tom Collins
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eight meets the matrix is a drone repair
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man eats meat after earth and buttons
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right when he when he lands on the earth
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he apparently which is which is there
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nobody there's nobody on the earth it's
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abandoned which is why Morgan Freeman is
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there with it or is a drive of 0 PE God
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so Morpheus jr. I like the fact that
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they have the trench from what he called
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from AI apparently in the distant future
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trenches are big on her tits well why
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they're in yeah so I you know it's Tom
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Cruise it's even hunt in the future
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fixing drones 16 had not fond of any
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film that gives Tom Cruise the
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opportunity to be alone with the camera
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for like 30 minutes because he chews
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through the landscape is probably the
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trench came from a problem with all that
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scenery up with his teeth
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well they don't like him they don't like
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him to be next to other actors be so
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small it's like a for strength Robert
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things i like him to just be isolated
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not a great actor but you also know it's
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like it's like going to a foreign city
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steal my drones but I hope it's a good
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story like you mean you don't know what
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soccer movies like wouldn't that be cool
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planet of the apes which for some reason
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saying that get booed everyone kept
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saying it was it was good and then I
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watched him like this movie makes no
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sense why why doesn't make there's no
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reason for it to make no sense like you
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drilled deliberately chosen not to make
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it make sense that it kills the movie if
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you visit your brain keeps engaging and
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saying no was why because things like
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rise of the planet of the apes makes
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ultimate sense but transformers made
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more sense than rise of the planet of
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the apes really seen transformers there
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fought each other rise of the planet of
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the apes it was nonsensical like no not
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figure out what the hell is going on in
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any given minute to transform know any
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of those three films i didn't even know
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what I was what i was looking at John
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consider that a warning label
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did you watch all three of those films
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gotten I've just 45 minutes of the
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second one on a plane and was and really
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through the scenery I i think it's
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tell what the hell it's about because
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you thought of a cool so you call you
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stories that could be the premise I did
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it's going to fall into the same old
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tropes I mean it looks it looks like
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he's working for the wrong side
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yes he's been lied to he has been lied
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to and there's the good there's a good
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clean white future world in the dark
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gritty other ones and the white one is
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actually simple one right and you know
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these other films that we looked at here
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really no one here on Tom Cruise's that
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everybody just hide will go away it will
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pretend that we need these drone strikes
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hide again go back to your there with a
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small like a small plant at one point
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Wally like it's true
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Tom Cruise's Wally it's and I like to be
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incredibly well that beautiful women in
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this in this trailer
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area she's like right out of a feminine
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hygiene product add yeah he's in the
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series on ya have amazing hair and
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makeup in the future they do that is the
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future all clean and and happy and
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friendly and have drones to be repaired
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the watch The Lone Ranger trailer last
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all you want I yeah this is it seems
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like a bad idea to me it is from the
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people who brought you the symbol that
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represents pirates of the caribbean for
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those who can't read
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it's like a oh I recognize that number
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it's got its got two of two actors who I
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often are often horribly misused in
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certain ways in terms of like their
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makeup and the characters they get cast
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as and it's all very temperate me in a
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way that I despise and that's Johnny
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that she was in this movie and like oh
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great and you know johnny depp and
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helena bonham carter a movie together
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that's a that that's a bad sign Armie
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he's there he's president he's got an
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awesome name but Johnny Depp is johnny
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depp is a white man playing an Indian
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and locking legs tanto from the fifties
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Internet has no race Jason it's and i
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different kinds of bad Johnny barely has
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a gender that's true if he was playing a
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woman I wouldn't have a problem with it
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but he's playing Tonto and he says
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Kemosabe
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yeah I've never not have much attachment
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to the Lone Ranger brand that i'm sure
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many people are still alive do know i
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don't know i'm not sure that they would
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go to see this movie anyway
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no it's like The Green Hornet or
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something like it is invaluable Italy
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mr. Opry missed your chance i think
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there was plenty of Lone Ranger
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properties that when it was popular now
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maybe not the time and yet they remade
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dark shadows for some reason
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here's all I want to know which is is
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the is the team showing up the team that
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made the first pirates of the caribbean
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for the team that made the next three
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because the first parts of the caribbean
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movies pretty good next three are awful
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it's pretty much the same people i know
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it is but somehow they got they got
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something right once right that's my
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they made a good movie in there
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somewhere they made a lot of bad movies
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but it's possible they could make a good
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movie again the Lone Ranger character is
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established so they can't do too much
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with them don't know right times have he
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comes back from the dead but he has to
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wear masks so they know that he it's
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like The Incredible Hulk they must
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believe that he is dead
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even though he's actually alive and
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wears a mask and it seems like a bad
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it just seems like a like I said it's a
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lot of bats like why do this why do dark
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shadows
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speaking of bereft of ideas and has been
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for two decades right and these dark
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shadows had a built-in audience while
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caribbean 244 the original point for
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example and it's why did they make a
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movie out of a amusement park ride
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that's been around for 25 years I mean
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why does hollywood do anything they see
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easy using what they think is easy money
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right we don't have to we've got this
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thing it's got ya you might not know
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anything about the lone ranger but you
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probably know who the lone ranger is
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right you get brand recognition
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hi-ho silver away exactly that's
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all--that's all--that's all they need
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these artists name recognition anyway
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yeah Johnny Depp is a sinister Indian
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Shaymin guy who resurrected mr. he looks
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kind of sinister he's guess i don't know
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i didn't I guess I didn't get a sinister
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vibe from i know i like there was a
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scene with that with horse but I had on
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his head that I easy zone
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wow I would so there's a birthday / that
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you're gonna love the minister and then
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like a person I don't know why is tanto
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now Rob Zombie I don't really understand
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where they're going with that because
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you're trying to be culturally sensitive
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if they're gonna do this they have to
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know where the pitfalls are right that's
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pretty obvious making his lone ranger in
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2013 is the first pitiful but they
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ignored
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they seem to have failed to avoid that
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one no but my point is if you're making
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that movie you gotta know like all right
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we're having Johnny Depp dress up as
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Native American I
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would think you would take the time to
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you know at least do some research
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maybe they didn't in which case I grew
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Jason that is a really bad idea
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well I think they're going the other way
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they're going they're going with if we
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make him as completely unidentifiable
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with any sort of Native American tribe
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as possible then we're less likely to
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offend any any specific maybe it will
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turn out maybe they'll twist in this
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movie is that he's actually just like
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it's like dances with wolves and he's
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just he's just a white guy jumped onto
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washington aged has a weird name or they
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could be going to feel like the meta so
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you know having it as a critique on the
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original Thomas yeah baby Missy's it's
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like tropical I was so culturally
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sensitive so now you exactly
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well I guess we'll find out we want
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because i'm not saying it several months
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after it arrives in theaters will find
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that out
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this is one for the netflix streaming
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queue oh man why I'm putting my money
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right now it's going to be a blockbuster
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hit that's all I'm saying what I did
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feel the same way about pirates the
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caribbean we hang out and was I was
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regretful later that i did not see it in
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theaters because it seemed like the kind
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of film that would have gone very well
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in a theater it was genuinely a good
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movie going experience it's looking at
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me like it's the exception that proves
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the rule though given the other pirates
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movies and given the you know haunted
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mansion with Eddie Murphy and some other
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and the you know
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yeah I I think maybe that was just an
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outlier could be wrong else this could
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be another outline Armie Hammer he seems
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like a perfectly letter for me hammers
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that you know I i was impressed with him
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at the moment where I realized in the
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social network that i actually knew that
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actor because i had seen him on a TV
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show and he didn't have a twin because i
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didn't realize going into that movie
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that it was not to guys like this one
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guy no yeah one guy that's impressive as
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there's some good work there so I'm
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willing to give him a shot because I
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hoped advising I think he's a guy who's
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a who's got a potential to be one of
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those you know i think is a he could be
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a headliner he could be a star
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he could be a star future right it's
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going to feature him as long as the
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world isn't it possible mr. futures
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ahead of him
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I don't know it could be nose and the
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the director who directed the lone
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ranger also directed mousehunt so
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maybe forever Ben ski
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mmhmm yeah he's got a great body of work
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i want to mention at least briefly and
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just since John brother upstream color
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the trailer came out this is a weird
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title for what is probably in a really
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weird movie i find it relevant because
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it's the director of primer which is one
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of my all-time favorite time travel
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movies which he made 410 like 10,000
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bucks is a perfect the trailer for his
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movie would be just absolutely
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inscrutable like that's this perfect of
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course it you watch it and it you cannot
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tell anything about what the hell it is
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and what it's about it's a relationship
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drama or i guess or is it because the
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the summary is a man and a woman are
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drawn together entangled in the life
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cycle of an ageless organism that that
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summary sounds perfectly fine just goes
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off the rails at the very end you like
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wait what identity becomes an illusion
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as they struggle to assemble the loose
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fragments of wrecked lives that it is a
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baffling trailer that's two of them this
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to this two clips
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yeah watch the two clips and you you get
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that you get to definitely get the same
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feel as primer yeah primer depending on
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how i would like to say yeah whatever i
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think this movie has a very high chance
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of being a terrible train around Green I
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will watch it anyway i'm intrigued
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because shane carruth baby made a movie
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that I really loved and it's presumably
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he got a little bit more money for this
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it's a you know maybe 20001 i don't know
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and i think that the three seconds of CG
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and in the clip it costs more than his
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other movie almost certainly might have
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just you know rendered it himself
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I mean if this is anything to go on but
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uh you know that movie / was in 2004 so
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he's been it's been a long time since he
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had his cult movie before he has gotten
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another movie made but he's got it and
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it's in it at sundance i guess and you
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know it's coming out in march so if the
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world doesn't end and I feel exactly the
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same way John I i fear that this guy is
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the one thing in many made it and a
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decade later he comes back and it's
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probably going to be horrendous but it
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seems to be a trend
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I'm fascinated yeah isn't it but you get
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you get the goodwill like you make a
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movie like like yeah I'm are you get
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I'll go to see your next movie like no
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matter what right do that then we have
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to have a talk and of this time I well
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but you that you know it that's enough
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goodwill to get me to see whatever he's
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gonna do is he's gonna show up have John
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have we talked to have we talked about
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that movie much because i didn't know
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that you actually liked printer primer
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happen when I i love it i've sought back
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way back when we should do an episode
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about that sometime and then we'll be it
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more confused when we end then we start
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because that's a crazy movie but yea
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upstream color
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watch the trailer and you'll be like
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what and watch battles of the trailers
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you don't either one helps
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no well that's what i watch that I
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haven't seen premiere so and I didn't
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even know who this was so I had no idea
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what i was going to see so I'm not the
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first trailer was like I don't
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understand no clear surely the second
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trailer will clear enough
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is there an inscrutable book that we
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need to read before this comes out so we
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don't know the Purcell I understood the
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cloud atlas farmer whose trailer so you
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should you should go rent or stream
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primary you can find it yeah you like it
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yes you have to concentrate don't look
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away from the television don't read a
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book while you're watching movie don't
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be afraid to rewind a little bit in the
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beginning when you're wait what had just
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happened there
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good with it to my list of things to
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yeah alright so that's that's our that's
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our preview of 2013 in the movies that
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will see some of them some of them might
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actually even be good i'm kind of hoping
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actually the Mayans are right after this
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discussion
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yeah so if the world does end we won't
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need to see these movies and if it
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doesn't end I guess our punishment is
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that we do get to see them anyway
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looks like we'll be some good ones and
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bad ones i'm looking forward to 2013 if
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it arrives and we all don't die or
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get exploded by the Sun or something
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like that anyway let's think positive so
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I'd like to thank my guest tonight damn
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orange on siracusa Steve let's Scott
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McNulty thank you all for being here and
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thanks everybody out there for listening
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to the uncomfortable
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happy holidays and we'll see you next
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