00:00:09 ◼ ► uncomfortable podcast I'm Jason Snelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/9">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► i'm joined by three fine members of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► we're going to talk about the latest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► the 4 ko's again series of books by lois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► mcmaster bujold which we also talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► about on a previous podcast called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► episode title is my word is foreclosed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► again the links in the show notes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► is the 14th book in the series i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► ya so if you haven't read the first 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► yeah you might want to tune out at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► point when we start talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► because well that's interesting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/40">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► an interesting question what we can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► about that that's yes it is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and that was that voice you heard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/45">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► damn moron who is who is the man who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► introduced me to the four cosine series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/48">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► which I've been read 13 books in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► two months couple years ago I consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► yes thank you very much also joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► hello i also blame damn for yes I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/58">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► character until I met down everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/65">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► laughter that you hear in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/73">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► directed at Dan of course is it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/74">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► I don't say three yeah i'll answer all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► entirely I've number of friends who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► yeah are we not your friends and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► friends yeah yeah thanks to introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► you guys to this book also my friends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► mean it's well established this Gotye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► framing sequence and Jason and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► friends grandma sees nemesis enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► no it's more like pharmacies because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► their nemesis but also friends that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► good point there really nemesis so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► we're going to talk about this but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► is a to book club episodes in the row i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► believe and in our last episode it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► almost a cliffhanger except it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► edited out so only people who listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► the after dark heard it when we last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► Disneyland and not on the podcast which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/127">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► I I feel really horrible and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► screaming for the for the good three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► minutes while i was on splash mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► yeah it's a shame so we were good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► were trying to call you from from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► podcast podcast was calling and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► really highlights the podcast we almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► left you a voicemail in fact it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► God's back because we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► what what uh and how we how we read so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► before we talk about about this latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/160">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► actually a for patrol book but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► with 40 second book I thought we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► touch base because you were an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► reader and and last week when we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► we talked a lot about candles and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► talked about ipads and we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► mm but we didn't really talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► iphone and and that was why we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► trying to call you is that you are seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► to be a dedicated iphone reader can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► explain yourself please why am i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► these things to my eyes you know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/191">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► other than when i got the iphone i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► pretty much glue to it because it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► my pocket and everywhere and I had gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► through a period of i think four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► years where I had just not been reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► which is in stark contrast to my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► before then when I basically either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► bought or checked out three books a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► from the library so during like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► college in my coast post-college years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► was reading absolutely nothing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► was either going around and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► running from place to place so quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► or already carrying five or six books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► that I had to read for school that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/227">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► you know i did not have the extra space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► to stick in a paperback or and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► Kendall's hadn't even been invented at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► that point so I when the kindle first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► came out I gave it a glance and promptly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► ran away cause I'm like the ink is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► but there's the keyboard and it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► guess it's kind of late but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► I'd I just wasn't interested first it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/251">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► disagree but shame no all right we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/257">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► when the ibookstore came out i bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/262">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► book or two I think partially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► being comfortable had started up by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► point and you guys were reading pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► you guys are being pretty frequently at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► the front because we were doing book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► clubs with three books for books at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► and previous to that I was just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► into a bookstore and reading the city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► the city from cover to cover in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► try and capture up by know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► library lady I know I know I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► a library i didn't have a library card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► in the city that I was living because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► I'd only been living there are a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► months so I i would go into barns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► not like I went into the barnes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► noble and I read city to city in seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► hours something like that i just sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► down in a chair and occasionally wander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► down and get coffee or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► then we'll tea and wonder back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► read more i'm going to about things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► them eventually but they really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► money on the coffee anyway so yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► so I mean that was my eyes my book life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► for a long time is when I wasn't reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► a lot of books i would wander into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► chapters when i worked at the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► store on my lunch break i would go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► borders I'd read two chapters i put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► book back that I'd go back on my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/335">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► yeah Shh i I've spent plenty of money at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► that store it goes to borders on to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► yes coffee shop at the coffee shop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/346">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► when the ibookstore came out I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► little curious but not really super you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/353">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► know super interested in and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► started downloading books for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► comparable and actually the first series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► ironically enough the first series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► i read majorly on the iphone was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► Vorkosigan saga in that most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► books were available as ebooks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► Baines website and some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► available for free and some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► available via beans web store so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► basically i think i got the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► from dan in paperback format and i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► that and I wanted to read the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► and I didn't either have a car to go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► to the bookstore or somewhere else so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► my phone and just downloaded the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► one from being swept store and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► proceeded to read the entirety of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/400">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► series on my iphone one little page at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► time and you would think that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► be really really annoying reading on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► tiny screen and in fact everybody I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► that i read long novels on tiny screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► to uh looks at me like I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► crazy but I actually really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► almost isolation that you get from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► small screen where you basically have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► digest it in you have to digest the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► in small chunks as opposed to a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► page of paperback text for me because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the way i read which I'll get into in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► second is really intimidating and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► really like having a smaller screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► that i can read more carefully so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► reason why a full page is a little weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► is because i read mr. sounds weird I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/450">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► diagonally so when I scan a page with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► eyes and I'm reading I don't read it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► don't subvocalize in my head I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► I read through about two paragraphs at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► once and my brain for some magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► reason is able to compose at all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► words I've seen on the page into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► appropriate sentences and word pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► in my head which I i know sounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► weird and sounds like BS but is is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► clearest way i can approximate how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► actually read that so so should properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► composed paragraph for you have the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► words kind of all on a diagonal line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► through the whole like oh this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► word i'm gonna put this the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► the third line of this paragraph because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► yes exactly it's like i pick and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► my words now it's almost like an s-curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► in a weird ways it's my eyes kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► scan because i read so often as a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► I I don't I'm just hypothesizing at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► point but i'm able more or less to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► out the important words in a paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► that I know will paint the accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► picture and it's weird because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► lose any data like I'm not skimming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► paragraph i can tell you everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► happened in that particular sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► interesting verbosity or interesting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► know phrasing or with i will usually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► able to quote those specifics phrases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► but more or less it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► taking those words and composing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► picture inside my head rather than some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/544">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► it's getting the idea of what the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► looks like it doesn't work quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► same way for dialogue but for any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► of paragraph of description that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► wow I you know I I were going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► Oliver Sacks on to discuss this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► this is it seems like a neurological odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► phenomenon that she's also occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► mistake in her iphone for a hat so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► table is clearly or a book and a hat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/571">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► so the iphone helps your reading process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► by having fewer words on the page is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► does that actually help you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► progress as you're reading in a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/581">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► diagonal reader it's um because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/586">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► the way that my eye scan if the page is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► a full page long my eyes will like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► will actually digest that entire page at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► once or at least attempt to which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► usually require me to just either bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► the book closer to my face or like focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► on paragraph one paragraph to paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► 3 paragraph 4 so having the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► basically limit the size of the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► means that my eyes can't read ahead by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► accident and try and incorporate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► part of the story into the previous part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► its yeah I I don't even know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► describe it it's like time time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► reading I i read you know i read on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► iphone some but it's usually only when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► i'm trapped somewhere and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► other I was actually just doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► because i was at the doctor's office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► because feeling a little under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► weather earlier and and all i had was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► iphone and you know in a situation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► that I it's perfectly fine to read on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► just don't think i would read you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► thousand-page book just on it I having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► kindle or an iPad or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► seems seems better but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► great when you're in those situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► and you're in the line at Disneyland and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► you can just read a real book you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► that part and i love i mean the kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► has this to a certain extent i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► being able to finish one book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► series and immediately download the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► there's no yes it's gotten me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► trouble I remember reading the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► george RR martin books which some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► those took me a couple days and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► also reading I got his name is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► patrick rothfuss series i read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► two of those books back to back in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► 13 hours but diagonally so into way I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/692">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► yes it's special attraction two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► guys are acting reading that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► essentially yes that's that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► why can you scan the top of the page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► then the depth is extrapolated sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► like by sonar pinging pinging this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► know i mean i'll ask for other reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► than that I like being able to have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► complete book library on it and i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► how light it is actually it's it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► weird because you know the kindle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► light and the and the ipad is light but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► they're also bulkier in a in a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► way to a paperback book and the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► because it fits so nicely in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► it's something you know if I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► on a crowded bus and when i was living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/740">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► in San Francisco I did a lot of sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► on crowded buses and have a lot you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► I have my my backpack or my satchel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► I be wearing a winter coat and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► taking the time if you're only on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► bus for 10 minutes five minutes to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► book out of your you know out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► purse and then by the time you open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► and if you get involved in the story you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► might lose you know miss your stop if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► I'm on the iphone it's very easy for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► to like read ten iphone pages look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► wandered down to the mission go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► read ten more iphone pages it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► allows me to get sucked into a book much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► more quickly which I like and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► bed reading so much easier because I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/780">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► you know I don't have to prop anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► up which is lazy reading I admit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► know there's something to be said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► having a physical book in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► but having the having the iphone is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/791">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► reading a lot longer than I normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► would if i was reading a paperback book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► like normally I'll read for like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► to then put it away then do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► then come back to reading unless i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► completely caught up with the iphone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► it i become very easily immersed inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► the book so I'm trying to imagine if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► had actually gotten you on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► Disneyland you trying to explain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► you read things diagonally while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/821">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► wide for the haunted mansion and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► stead that would be very confusing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► I'm glad that we waited and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► were able to come on and and add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► little kota to our how we read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► because it was sad you couldn't be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► but you didn't land you know magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/833">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► special place in Star Tours waits for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► woman yeah there you go you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► did start towards i got like it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► frequently it was like let's go to Nobu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/843">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► and-and-and like Jar Jar was in it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► really just did you stand up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► middle said no this is not happening i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► was i was going to but it was but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► know there's ship was shaking so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► stayed they'd strap yeah you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► can do it smart smart yeah but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► don't step c-3po and because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/862">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► care about droids but that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► serve their kind here that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► good they're good options and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► towards you just have to you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► on it multiple times their own unwritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► rule at this inherently have to go on at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► yeah now i only did the one boy it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► there was charged our that was so set so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► so now you're in the midst of reading i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► should say the the 14th or Costa can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► book but you haven't actually finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► it right on your iPhone all know I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► horrible person I decided to get work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► done and set up my new television rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► than television television television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► I know in my day television was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► books are you just had a television so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► you can hook up your iphone to it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► can read a lot are masterful television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► reading out god how many inches is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► oh maybe it is because many inches too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/917">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► many inches inches for you old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► oh so let's hold heyo let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► captain for patrols Alliance the 14 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/928">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► by in this series by lois mcmaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► bujold dan more'n one of your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► yes and then we'll get to some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► where red will say I can't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► this anymore to tap out and she will she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► will flee and we'll say goodbye will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► flee and i will actually go curl up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► the couch and finish you will find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► that I've indices I think it's a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► it's shame know the zombie I'm by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► way uh 20 episode 24 the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► was our Vorkosigan episode so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► check that out and i will also point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► that lois mcmaster bujold listen to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► episode of the incomparable and her one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► of her one comment that i recall was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► they should let the woman talk more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► it's really sad that you didn't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► whole book because she's gonna listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► and she's gonna be like one of the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► off halfway through I didn't let her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► keep talking plus I'm sorry that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► fault i think I i think i emailed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► do you mind my fault apparently that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► dan and I went on and on and on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► ya know so training training that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/997">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► this is this is the ivan book this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► not about miles I mean previously we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► had essentially either miles is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► central character in these books or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► prior to that it was his mother and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► father right and now we have and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► there was like there was the ethan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► athos and and following free which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► sort of not it's in the same universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► but basically these books are all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► miles or miles parents and now we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► his cousin eivin who has been an this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► basically comic relief character would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► you say kind of notnot we not the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► time let's note that he is the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► though because he gets a point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► in civil campaign sure but like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► sort of the primary character right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► right right right but is on the fringes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► for most of the series he is the he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► right he's handsome tall he's debonair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► successful with the ladies right he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► the foil even though he's not as smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► as miles is we also know that he's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► smarter than he lets on right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► because he doesn't he doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► get in complex situations he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► want to get in trouble he doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► and that's actually the funniest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► about Ivan right is that is that miles o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► his approaches him and he rolls his eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► and says no don't know don't get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► involved then of course he's involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► I i like the idea so I went to a reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► with Miss bujold she was in cambridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► and so I went to hear her a couple weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► ago read from this book and she made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► comment at some point that the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► is ivan is that ivan is always trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► yeah and and she's like well you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► miles you know you wouldn't want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► too much miles because miles away just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► like takeover right you know pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► everybody aside and be like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► yeah let's bring this on but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► avoiding the plot at all costs is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► his one of his most charming traits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► but it makes it difficult to read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► with a main character who is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► avoid the plot that he is it if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► i mean it makes it difficult for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that is true and it's kind it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► funny though right that he's too he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► tries to get out of it but he can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► he's kind of hapless yeah i mean let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► be fair in the in the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► chapters in this book he winds up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► fairly compromising position fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► yeah he hasn't he has a knack for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► so yeah yeah in this so the this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► starts and he's on assignment and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► he's given by his his friend by early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► friend never seen em nervous perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► friend friend missus msf Ramona's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► can't say that were you know where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► going to be a word now I've decided it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► going to be a word that Riley says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► uh I need you to watch this this girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► who works down at this like mail boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► etc UPS store anyway the economy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► I'm Susan did you might be in danger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► so he buys it really ugly flower pot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► takes it even has her ship it two miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► several planets away at the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► was mentioned in that book because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► find it very funny that you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► I'm kind of our our dear friend miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► remember him he's the main character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► most of this series we're going to mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► a really ugly Bosley ya ugly flower pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► or yeah or virus that's going to be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► as a flower pot because what else would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► you use it for and and one thing leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► to another and he uses his skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► so-called skills at picking up women to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► continually try to pick up this woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► she's leaving the store and all that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► then he doubles back because he knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► her address because he's actually not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► random a customer and he ends up stunned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and tied up on a on a chair as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► woman and her roommate who is blue a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► understatement debates what debate what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► to acrobat / dancer really except sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► acrobatic dancer if you will slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► yeah did debate what to do with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► he ends up you know he's confident as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► always and he ends up saving them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► apartment and then the fun begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► because through a series of wacky events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► he ends up having to marry the woman in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► order to protect her from the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► authorities so you've heard of the meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► cute this book actually has the Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► well and and you know in i think which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► which prompts my favorite line from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► book which is so he's done all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► to basically aboard have avoided having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► her deported because in marrying him she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► basically becomes a subject of bar ER [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► and thus you know protected to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► extent and so as they're there can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► know doing the ceremony as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► immigration all officials are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► knock down their doors and so just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► they they burst in and they've conclude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► the ceremony in that the immigration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► officials go to a pretender you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► unhand lady for patricia i know that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► I I thought it was I just I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► it was one of those like day you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► her books are very often amusing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► this one you know like a civil campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► is something that you know it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► more comedic than it yes you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► the other ones are you know quite moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► I mean several of them i laughed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► loud at several points in this book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► yeah there's a good three chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► section and it's all I mean and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► it's all character-based humor for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► most part right it's because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► these people right and you defect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► they're put in these situations and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► they react in ways that you know our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► you know it's like seeing your best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► friend get into you know a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► type of trouble odd-man John's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► get into that trouble right you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► don't like the specific it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► know these people because they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► fully fleshed-out characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► there's something very amusing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► fact that you see them get into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► situations and knowing you know the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► that all the items getting dragged into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it just comes off very charming so i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► looking on amazon and there's a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► list review that that is is positive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► one of the things that it says I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► trying to find it here is is new readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► can enjoy Ivan story on its own but will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► miss many of the nuances that add depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► and character and I wanted to ask when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► you've got something that's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► 14th book in a series i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► strongest thing about it and what struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► me especially in the first half of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► book really the part that rim is red is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► is that a lot of it works because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► are all characters that we know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► seeing you again and seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► corners of the universe you know filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► out a little bit and seeing these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► placed in funny situations works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► well and i kinda can't conceive of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► this book would read like if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► read the 14 books that came before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► yeah i'm curious about that and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► that on her blog lowest posted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► issue was really curious she had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► seen a lot of reviews from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► had not read this series otherwise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► she was really curious to know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► how it played for someone who had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► read it and so I i have no idea i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► having of course read these books many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► really interested to hear if somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► just can't imagine that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► are picking it up if they're not already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► fans of the series but I imagine there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► must be some people out there somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► who are court reading it for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► time I got can you imagine anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► reading this and having makes sense if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► well I i do know that this is her first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► book that has appeared on the new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► times bestseller was the expanded list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► I I can i if this was my first entree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► into this universe i don't think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► have read the other books only because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► think i enjoy the book i should say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► I think it's kind of light and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► there's nothing wrong with having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► little thin like Ivan I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► I've been is a character who I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► care about as a main character if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► hadn't read all the other books and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► of been like oh I mean he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► I wonder what he would do in all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► situations ah so I have that back story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► about him and I know how he's reacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► and all these other things so i can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► him in these situations and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► sense but if I were and obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► can't read the other book so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► know if this would actually be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► but i have a feeling that this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► the best introduction to this series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► think it's great for the fans and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► people who have read already because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► know like you guys said it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► meeting your friends again and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► seeing a different side of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► because it's very different than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► know a miles adventure so that's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► interesting take on it but uh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► it's not a great honor first country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► yeah yeah he was nice about ivan is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► he's he's reluctant and and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► don't know if you could carry on carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► off a lot of books but i think it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► to compare it to a miles kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► jumping in and and taking control of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► situation and instead I've been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► wants to not be in the situation but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► one of the things i always liked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► the first two books at is that reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► the first two books that had that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► miles parents as the main characters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► now when i read all these other books i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► had this strange perspective of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► you kids I'd I knew your parents right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► remember when when when you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► that way back when before you were even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► born and with Ivan I you know it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► better you're right Scott when because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► we know I fun and we've seen him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► other situations and then make reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► to a lot of his situations like when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► was trapped in the with the rising water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► on Earth and all of that when he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► danger but the thing about Ivan that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► reference really nicely in here is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► birth which is at the time is is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► part of this dramatic scene in Bari are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► yeah chronologically in the series not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► the second book published because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► extra confusing and won the hugo award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► and he's born his his his his father is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► gunned down during this rebellion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► then his mother gives birth and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► have to they're fleeing the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► troops basically and its really dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► and it's also very sad because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► father doesn't make it out and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► there's the sad introduction to to Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► and his family too and then he becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► kind of a funny character but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► there's this darkness at the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► has his mother is a widow and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► that's all part of his story and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► book they actually have this ceremony at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► the location where his father was gunned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► down and you see the side his and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► mother who is kind of a comedic figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► to UM in most of these books you see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► having that taking that time about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► husband who's been dead for 35 years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► for 40 years and i really like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► again i'm not sure that has any payoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► if you haven't read the other books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► the power of having read all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► material and it's having having them go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► back there to that Street it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► really kind of amazing I mean to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► shows the power of a book series and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► they they can multiply in a way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► long-running TV show or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► are comic book series right now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► very rewarding to see things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► reference to things that happened a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► really long time ago you know and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► rewarded for paying attention right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► know to think oh yeah I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► scene you know that i saw that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► yeah there's a plaque on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► where that thing that I saw happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► it's now history and I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► something that is one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► love the most about these books is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► there are those little things that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► it feel like such a fleshed-out world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► because you're seeing these references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► to things that happen and you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► even if it's not as long as that even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► the time and are you know between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► actual books is not as long as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► events that have transpired in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► it's still also you know there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► of longevity here I mean that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► barrio was published in in 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► so you know even even though it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► you know as long as it is in the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► maintain sort of a whole story and the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► mean the entire world still feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► modern in a way or just her her universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► like you don't you don't go back to Bari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► are and look at four patrols Alliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and say oh this material feels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► dated like it was written 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► its it flows very very naturally from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► book to book I don't know if new readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► will find Ivan's book is a jumping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► point for the series but I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► think if this is the first book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► picked up i would be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► reading more by her it's because she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► she has such an interesting style even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► with ivan who is admittedly ivan is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► you know the comic relief in the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► character of of the series but her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► ability to shift between viewpoints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► really nail not only the inner monologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► of a character and the speaking of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► character but just the way chapters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► phrased and even sections of chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► are phrase depending on what viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► there in she has a remarkable knack for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► being able to hammer down very specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► character types within the within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► chapters and within the books and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► immediately know even before there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► he or a she or a thought or you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► immediately know who's narrating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► second that chapter or that section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► the book because we go back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► between Ivan and his well his friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► just like what rapidly his wife with tej [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► as we say lady for patrolling had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► maybe Border Patrol we're not gonna try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► no it's a mouthful it's like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► Ivan for doing it it's long because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► jacksonian and also see ganden right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► it's yeah and also 1001 baby names from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► older something like that something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► that but it is it is cute because you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► intelligence uh perspectives even within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► chapters though show move back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► and that's that's part of the finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► that it's almost Scott you said it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► watching a Shakespeare comedy in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► because it really is it like i said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► don't meet cute they marry cute but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that same thing right it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► meet and then there's this marriage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► shouldn't have happened but had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► happen and then they get to know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► other and and and it's inside out seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► each other from one another's eyes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► kind of funny seeing bari are from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► perspective and also the fact that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► not a she's not a complete innocent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► because she's part of this family thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► the in this in this kind of ruthless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► Jackson Hole system where there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► and and her poor families a real piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► of work and it's actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► interesting that she's she's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► least minneapolis yeah yeah she's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► of a rebel in that she doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► be as awful as some of the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► might be and so it you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► it's funny I like I like you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► light because that's why I keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► to the Shakespearean comedy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► you've got this collection of players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► and their families on both sides and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► family's all have agendas but it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► you know too heavy it's it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► the kind of the fun of seeing how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► all interact and and increasingly bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► things happen and but there was resolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► there's not a huge amount of Jeopardy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► feel there are a couple moments of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► jeopardy but it's much more kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► light and and fun and then than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► else I think it's funny that you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► Shakespearean because I was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► getting a strong taming of the shrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► five in places when I was first starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► to read the book while in and civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► campaign is also extremely comedy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► errors like yeah you know if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► whole sort of element there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► slap sticky misunderstandings and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► know double entendre is in that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► stuff so you know there's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► there's clearly a homage to that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► that sort of storytelling right so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► say I don't know how to proceed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► here because ryan hasn't read the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► of the book and has read it and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► yes so I I stopped reading so i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► give you that in advance i stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► reading right as they're arriving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► Bari are all right so we can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► anything before then yeah I assume so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► mean barrios a fairly quiet plan suffice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► it to say that they visit where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► father was killed I've given that away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► yes I'm sure it is it's a lovely street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► streetwear death and murder once happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► warehouse nearby so yeah I is today Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► one of the things I really enjoyed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► this book was getting the you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► you get a look at what Ivan does for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► living right in this case is he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► an ad comp to an admiral and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► actually pretty good at his job right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► like he's basically a glorified you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► personal assistant but you get an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► that he's very competent and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► takes a certain amount of pride in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► work and even if he's not the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► that you know an insect weasel as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► might say with the university like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► spies and the security officers running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► around he's very happy to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► exactly what he's doing because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► it provides him with just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► amount of work versus responsibility and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► I think you know it's it's tempting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► picture i've been especially from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► earlier books as kind of a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► layabout ne'er do well and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► interesting when you get into his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► because he is a very different character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► than he is then he portrays himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► right because he has this whole facade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► going and so you know in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► of this book we get we get a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► idea being inside his head of what his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► life is actually like and there is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► want to do you want to pick out another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► great line you know this might give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► something away it's not too much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► where I think by rly ask something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► like what you you always seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► all these girlfriends hanging on and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► thinks you know so you've been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► successful than like what's the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► and he thinks to himself you know nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► ever realizes that if you have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► girlfriends and entails break up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► lot of weakness which I thought was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► tied-up just a great point at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► this guy who is basically my texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► really be considered a womanizer and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► you get the idea that everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► pretty amicable and these things like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► has these relationships that disorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► don't go anywhere but he's not quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► Playboy that you'd think he was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► well you've got a lot of visions of evan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► from other characters you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► get him and you get sort of his outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► portrayal to other characters and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► just they take that image and run with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► it and that's the only perspective that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► we see but when you're in Ivan's head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► all the time it's very easy to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► he's not and he's not a womanizer he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► he just happens to be a band who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► know who's very well-versed in dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► and who is very good at his job and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► not passionate about advancement I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► there's a thing early on where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► I need to figure out how I can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► captain for patrol forever you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► he's I mean that's really the key and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► i didn't get all of this i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► some insight that I got into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► character that I didn't get from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► these other books which is he is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► actively evading everything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► he's evading long-term relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► with women he's not just having lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► relationships with women he's evading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► he's evading a sec which it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► which he could work in and in fact in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► this book that there's a there's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► a you could come work at him second he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► like no no I don't want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► that's what miles did I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► that and then there's this other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► which is that because of his family up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► until Emperor Gregor had kids he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► potentially politically if something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► regular or if there was a rebellion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► some kind of a possible Emperor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► he's he's third in line yeah he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► it's basically arrow miles and him yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► so he's he and he doesn't want any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► that either so he wants to be it was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► do a good job he wants to live his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and have a good time but more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► anything else he doesn't want what all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► these other people who are characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► books in this series have he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► want to be the Imperial security expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► he doesn't want to have the rollicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► miles adventures he doesn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► the Emperor or or beam you know married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► into all the bar erm politics and family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► you know connections and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► that he just doesn't want to do that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► wants he's independent but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► independent in a kind of brash i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► live my own life kind of watch me i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► rebel he's that he's like the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► which is I'm just going to fade away I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► want to fade away into the woodwork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► leave me alone he doesn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► noticed and I mean if we look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► happens to the people in this series who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► do get noticed they get put in grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► danger and I did show occasionally yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► I mean first you look at ya frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► you can't believe no no it makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► sense for I've into one has been proven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► right well I think that's why we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► feel so sympathetic to the right we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► the fact that is dragged into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► things that get poor Ivan that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► the third right you know i would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► remember talking about this with my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► cousin who is the person who introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► me to the books are just sit around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► chat about the books and and she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► always say poor Ivan you get when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► well hey maybe we have a sister that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► what his mother was asking all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► when you have any other thoughts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► the book that you'd like to share before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► we hang up on you and then spoil what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► happens only that there's a lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► little moment or we get to see Ivan sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► of not necessarily dedication to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► but his general idea of a workday which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► is his sorting the snakes sexually and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► it's a lovely little determine of ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► yes very snake-charming I i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► that that part and and see the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► he's gone so far into the metaphor as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► create different categories of sparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► poisonous snakes yes that that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Admiral has to deal with so I found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► very nice i'm looking forward to redress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► the book and now I will leave you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► do that and you guys can talk and spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► everything you listen to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► yes alright well bid you all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► thanks for thanks for being on MH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► goodbye goodbye live from disneyland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► that was no with 67 she's home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► disneyland that was certainly Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► hey we can spoil everything else today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► so in the end and you wouldn't have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► it coming in the end these two crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► kids who got married for expedient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► reasons end up falling in love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► decided to stay together after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► accidentally each committed suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► thinking that the other was already haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► it does it does happen free shakespeare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► in there too you know one of that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► the scenes that made me laugh the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► was the scene where they're going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► to the the Lord who's the judge who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► yeah and they're like it'll be easy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► holiday it's all formality and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► sitting there going guys do not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► you're in a book this this is not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► go this is not gonna go well I also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► that that's done for almost no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► like other than just that characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► like man I just gotta want to screw with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► no no it's because it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► Ivan's mom because again they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► related because they're all part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► same family Ivan's mom calls him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► advance and says don't let them not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► married I think that's that it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► there it's like right to my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► yes I did talk to mother know my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► won't let me not be married exactly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► it's again it's it's not i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► it's one of those things that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► exactly contrived but it feels like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► yeah even with his mother doing us being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► like it's time it's time that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► yeah but again it's just all from its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► done for Laughs I mean because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► characters are like oh yeah we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► this lockdown and and the other as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► audience you're not meant to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► this is a plot twist right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► here we go yeah I know what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► here and it's funny I was annoyed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► generally like i said i enjoyed the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► I was annoyed that there's a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► with a nickname by because that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► confused me every time ever it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► just I'm just stupid but I was confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► i thought why is the sentence start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► x and then I'm gonna go it's the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► name it so nice is by early for routier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► yeah yeah who's related to a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► there is a virtue earlier who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► oh there's there's many many right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► he's an ass exception because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► think he is but he's not yeah of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► conscientious another playboy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► yeah and in a Shakespeare kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► fashion again you have the second couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► stories are happening in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► of the first couple with that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► probably not just Shakespeare you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► construction but you've got you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► buy-in rich and he keeps trying to plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► yes because he's trying to spy on on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► her and so she can of course she keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► finding them and disabling them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► anyway it's been nice what yes so what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► what's interesting about this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► that you know what you get about I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► say about what sixty percent the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► through and it does take a left turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► right because we start we moved from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► being this thing that's purely about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► comedy to there's a there's a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► yes I was something has to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► something must happen I mean I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► happily have read and continue reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► the book just watching i begin 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► trouble after another but i understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► that that's not necessarily compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► for everybody actually one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► I appreciate about but this plot is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► the plot was not I thought this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► going to be that they escaped to Bari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► are and then the bad people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► trying to kill her family do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► and get them in trouble and they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► going to be that was going to be what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► was it was connected by a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► paint-by-numbers yeah I i just i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► concerned that it was gonna be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► those things and instead again she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► for the family drama thing where her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► family shows up and they're awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► they're awful people not all there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► mean they're they're in nature of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► circumstance right well they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► they're from Jackson's hole and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► also saw the schemers and they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► on the run so they're desperate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► and they have this they have this plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► to go look for a volt yes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► treasure basically buried treasure under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► bar er which leads to more laughter when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► it's discovered that the buried treasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► is under the massive spy complex at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► heart of the Empire just where you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► to go digging which I which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► it's one of those it again it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► farcical I move right because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► oh well this won't be too much trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► we'll just find this old vault that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► grandmother used to work at during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► occupation and we'll just dig it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► oh yes can you tell you here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► building that i would like to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► that was can you take me there and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► go to their ugly building next to it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► oh it's going to be hard yeah yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► then they they hit the end so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► there's a so you've got the the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► dynamics because Ted is not really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► treated by her family she's the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► she's a little list you know she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► youngest and she's it the least kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► like likely to become a double-crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► trader person and she's married a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► yeah oh the who is a the embarrassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► noble but but potentially in line for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► the throne so maybe at the end but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► might be able to lie I have to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► oh yeah the expired who is somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► stumbled into you know he married into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► the being becoming a barren right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► of a small jacksonian family but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► got i really enjoy him because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► though he is scheming he loves his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► daughters he loves young way that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► wife does not right and he's also he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► he's very jolly he's very kind of bluff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► unassuming to a certain extent was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► like you know this is my thing I do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► thing and the end and that you know runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► up against one of my other favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► bujold characters to make an appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► here who is Simon million the former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► head of the Imperial Security Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► what the hell Simon with hello Simon who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► basically engages in a bet with him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► he can't break into the vaults rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► than actually alerting security they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► I mean I just love the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► know you've got Simon who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► famously an in-memory which is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► favorite book in the series loses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► memory chip that he has in his head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► basically gives him perfect recall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► so becomes everyone sort of thinks of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► becoming this daughter an old clueless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► guy when in fact yeah he's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► memory problems but he's really sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► still right you know he's still he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► still a clever guy because he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► charge of the spy service for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► decades and but you get the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► that he's he's bored right like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► all there is to it is just he is bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► with having this life where he just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► he's basically so he's a sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► know tired sort of tired he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► married to ivans mother but there's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► of this year they're living there living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► together basically and what we learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► from this is that is that he he's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► off better than he's letting on and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► he actually you know there may be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► for him to do in his life right hehe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► kind of come to grips which is also nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► because having read if you again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► richness of having read these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► books have read memory you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► the story with this character is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and this is almost you know there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► Redemption happening here where is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► you know you know I'm not useless I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► got I just because i don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► perfect memory anymore their stuff i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► do i can play a part in all of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► he does right and it's nice to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► view of him that is not colored by him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► being sort of forced to be miles boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► yeah and having to be the pushback the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► straight man sort of 22 miles of schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► yeah exactly and so in this time he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► a chance to sort of cut loose a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► bit and and play it play it fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► which works out not-so-great yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► so what's that mean again it's this plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► the way that it goes you get the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► dynamic and then you get this heist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► thing right where they're they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► to pull off the heist it's totally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► what i expected going to pull off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► heist and under the under the insect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► headquarters and and they and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► there's you know there's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► biological weapon of the burrowing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► that they would you want to dig when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► can just unleash this untested organism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► what could go wrong yeah well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► you can't dig because the sensors will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► pick it up but that organism we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► yeah and so that leads and then yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► there is a double-cross and and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► that but you never really get I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► know he's never really get a sense the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► characters think they're in danger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► no nobody else does write the readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► don't think they're really in danger now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► it's it's one of those is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► plots where you know everybody will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► it out in the end it's not that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► book right you know the tone is set if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► they'd taken a left turn it really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► become become something where lives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► at stake right like that wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► worked it would have felt strangely it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► would have felt contrived and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► have felt like oh yeah you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► trying to make this more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► book week it so it's you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► romp yeah and there's nothing wrong I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► mean that that's actually one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► things that I found really charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► about it is that it's nice to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► story like this i ated been a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► while before i read a book that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► wanted to rip through as fast as i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► and am I we were talking about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► you want to read it and then you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► also keep saying to yourself never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► slowed down because there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► be another one of these books for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► so i gotta slow down and enjoy my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► with this and yet i really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► just keep on I want to keep on going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► because it was so much fun just to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► you mean it's a rob it is it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► it's fun and it's like 10 slow down her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► sling it out as we as i went to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► sort of try and make sure that I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► know could read it over at least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► know a week or two so the headquarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► building collapses at the end which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► final I I thought wishes down into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► I thought that was hilarious be like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► soon as a couple because they keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► on about and then special assignment who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► is like god I thought this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► ugliest building ever i really just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► under your budget whereas you in and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► it's and it's the setup is perfect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► not really thinking about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► they're like they've been taking away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► and then they have to go get trapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► there and they have to dig them out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► then everyone's like how great we we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► everything and it's a great scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► Gregor like I don't really look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► building it seems kind of tilted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► whole thing just comes down and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► yeah haha she's that was i couldnae the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► picture by head was just so vivid that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► Gregor get some nice pieces in here too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► grown-up and and being all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► Imperial my bad shape right competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► and he just he's clearly he's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► the best i think they sort of alluded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► this in some of the previous you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► books but he's clearly the right guy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► the yeah right you know he knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► he's doing that's one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► liked about the previous books is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► is that we start with kind of an insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► Emperor and you thinking you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► going to be one of those things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► gonna be like Joffrey and Game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► Thrones right where you're like oh geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► things are gonna go really bad when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► kid is the Emperor and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► actually that unlike most of the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► Gregor is a you know he gets through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► is and is a good Emperor and does a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► job and and mostly because miles is dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► was you know a good Guardian and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► helped you know steer him in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► direction but he's also a good person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► who's the right guy for the job right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► yeah I like that part I like that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► that we do get to see miles briefly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► nice to that we get a that we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► cameo from him that that doesn't manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► why do we see him I don't think he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► the he's at the advice in the dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► they come to that they come to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► Gregor at his house and we get him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► Catherine we're chasing the kids around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► gray have you know we have a brief scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► and we have a lot of scenes were miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► is like laughing you know into his into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► his hand at at the kind of stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► there's also a lot of talk around miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► because sure there's this there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► there's the part where you know tester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► someone remembers this one that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► the house that gets taken down by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► guiyang like that that smile weird about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► yeah it's like it's nice to see all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► things like because they they echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► there's a lot of stuff from previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► books that echoes through that again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► rewarding even if its and it plays into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► a way that makes sense right guys we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► know that was miles to take down but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► never get a point at which he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► yeah that was me i took this pic this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► house like right like she acts sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► realistically like he was a spy right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► was working undercover so he's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► he's killed sort of alluded to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► been there but you know he's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► to talk about what he did we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► stuff where I like the bits were where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► you know I've been talking about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► on set ganda yeah and kind of impresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► the grandmother you know with the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► that he's like oh well you've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► you know been to my home world and met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► yeah the the whole ladies and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► right where all the ladies are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► bubbles right and so in that stuff plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► in right you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► references that that helped remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► that the stuff that would logically come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► up in these conversations because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► seen them happen actually do come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► because that is one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► frustrates me when I read and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► someone up to sleep doesn't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► something that clearly they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► remember you know you're reading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► and they're like oh but you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► oh and again Skywalker c-3po you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► never came up again now so and i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► that so you know it sounds so Scott you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► said you you would necessarily have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► other books in the series if it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► your first but that because you've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► the others you this is very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► yes I i did like it i mean i know in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► last podcast i complained about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► thought miles was an annoying character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► appreciate miles as a character because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► I he is much more active so is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► really you guys we talked about ivan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► not looking for adventure he is not he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► attention which makes him an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► character when there's somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► doing stuff and so stuff happens Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► it was a quick read it was fun I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► she's good writer I just obviously i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► don't i don't know i don't think i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► been can carry another book this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the most momentous thing that ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► happens dive and that doesn't involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► miles right i mean that's sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► sense i get as well but there was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► time where you know how did you two meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► right it's like well okay this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► how how what is how i met your mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► what would it take for Ivan to to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► married and this is the answer this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► the book that answers that it's a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► of ridiculous event would have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► yeah right that's the only way it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► work and and yeah I don't think I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► there to be many look I don't I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► another book I mean I i look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► seeing him in a future book as a side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► character but I I oh yeah I think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► great character but he's not a main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► character so Dan you said that a at lois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► mcmaster Pujols reading she said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► said to me privately not in a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► episode that she is working on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► yeah there's a she's writing a novella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► to be released it i think someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► determining point but she read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► sort of section of a mini novel is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► isn't set after cranbourne know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► set before crime as this we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► mention this is also set before cry burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► so so we're going with you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► right again continues to write out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► sequence and ending in cryo burn you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► know some momentous things happen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► very end and at that you really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► know about because if you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► to this you really must have read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► right but I'm she doesn't seem to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► it's interesting because it's I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► she said before that she felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► was in some ways the end of miles a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► story and so it's interesting that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► she's yeah she's writing in coloring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► other corners again and I think you let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► you know as without many other writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► who have hurt a thing well you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► something I want to write about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► will write another story but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► i'm not planning necessarily to to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► something else and so I think this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► takes place i don't i don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► the entire thrust of it is i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► you that the section that she read deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► as you write might remember there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► section of there's the land that miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► owns that's all radioactive right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► should you it deals with them trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► use the do you remember the bugs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► civil contain the butter trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► irradiated or at least they're testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► them and trying to get them to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► irradiated stuff and clean it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► so that's what the whole first service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► section deals with a trip that he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► Katherine and turnover if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► someone else in there will regain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► scientist who developed the bugs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► sort of tailing and seeing how this put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► how this project is going i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► there are lots of stories for her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► tell that don't involve miles in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► universe that our little sitting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► there there are lots of questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► what miles is clone brother Mark is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► yep with his girlfriend yet he gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► preemptively that he behind that he buys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► em sexo you can show that you're into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah look like a themed hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► you can stay the night at one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► interrogation cells that's that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► fun i feel like there's there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► stuff to be told there and I also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► of feel like she keeps hinting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► there's a story about arrow and Cordelia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► yeah answer gr surgery circular this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► this barren planet that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► where he is the Viceroy because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► seen them kind of flipped in and out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► there but we haven't I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► haven't seen them at all since the Civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► campaign i think is the last time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► actually appear right but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► clearly you know they're there multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► references to other their kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► enjoying their semi-retirement yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► but so I feel like that you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► are other characters that you know Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► decide that that would be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► for her to write things about AI guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► you know in the end she just has to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► up with a story that she thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► worth writing but it's encouraging when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► I saw her at a world con last year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► know i got it felt to me like she wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► gonna write miles stuff again and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► ivan was her chance to play in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► universe without mile so it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► encouraging that she's reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► la involving miles and maybe what she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► really saying is that she's having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► hard time seeing how she writes beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► the end of crying over and although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► find that funny because I actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► always assumed that the natural capstone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► of this entire thing this entire story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► is that miles goes back to to Bari r and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► ends up basically being the advisor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► know that the number one adviser to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► Emperor just like his dad was right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► I mean and that and because we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► whole bunch of the series of his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► where he's in all these different roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► where he's in all these different roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► right you know whether it be Admiral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► Naismith or you know Lord Lieutenant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► Burk goes again or Lord auditor virgos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► again and so there is the issue of well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► what does you know count miles for music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► in you know look like as a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► count miles were closed again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► Emperor Gregor you know as older fellows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► with family you know I i would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► see as a cap stone you know a last book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► I'd like to see that i'd like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► something that almost brings it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► way back around where there are new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► things happening with with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► their families but they are now in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► in that you know high-level strategic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► role and see something that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► level at the level of the Emperor what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► is the Emperor of this empire that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► with many planets and and relations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► how does that work and what is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► especially when if miles kids if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► anything like him are Haring off doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► oh yeah exactly i I she may be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► there eventually but that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► thing that i would kind of like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► I'd like to see that kind of capstone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► him growing up all the way and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► like his dad basically after all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► time and I think that his hit the death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► of his father at the end of cryo weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► there I said who is which happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► off-screen he's his old and he had her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► head like medical problems you know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► not unexpected but to the reader i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► I i like to see that last threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► crossed and and sort of see that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► know his dad's gone he's now account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► Gregor's been on the throne for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► time and what's that like we're miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► has to like be responsible in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► he's nice and he's got kids and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► married in a way that he never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► before but I don't know so it is great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► hope she keeps keeps writing this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► because they're fun and the universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► really just so deep and the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► are great that that the more the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► i think i agree yeah yeah i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► enjoyed this more than any book in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► diplomatic immunity is not my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► it was it was the one that came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► right after I so I read the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► series and the diplomatic community came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► out like right after I finished reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► everything up to that point and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► kind of a it was kind of a letdown for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► me it was not my favorite because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► part because we just left a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► campaign which is so it has so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► stuff in it and it's so that's the pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► of it is so you know fast and involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► so many characters that we know and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► love and then we get thrown away into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► this entirely different realm where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► don't really know most of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► and so it's like leaving the comfort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► your own and and I felt like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► I was not as engaged cry Auburn had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► things that I liked in it but it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► yeah it wasn't my favorite yeah when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► they it wasn't bad it just it we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► about crime on the hugo show we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► about crabber into and I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► think we also it's not it's not bad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► it was you know it's tough to stack up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► against there are so many books in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► series that are really yeah good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► oh and and so what I'd say about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► this book is I thought this book was way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► better than cry Auburn and better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► diplomatic immunity I mean by by a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► yeah and and that's good that's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► sort of unexpected was nice because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► opportunity I think to break the mold a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► by doing Ivan and by doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► that's a little bit lighter it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► opportunity to go outside the formula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► that I think we've dealt with miles now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► which is Miles go somewhere there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► know may happen and problems and he sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► of gets himself in trouble then gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► himself out of trouble and gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► clever and solves their reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► writing burn was different because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► was trying to tell a story about miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► from somebody else's perspective so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► you've got to see what how other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► see miles but you know this with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► was a this was a better book so i assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► it'll just get nominated for hugo award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► because they all do now and then we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► we will have read it for the big Hugo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► yeah maybe this time I'll get around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► reading the rest of the people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► future who have been instructed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► ourselves in the future to refer back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► this episode because this is where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► talked about that episode that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► get nominated in the summer of 2013 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► we're listening thanks for coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► to our episode from 2012 i hope you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► enjoying your jet packs in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► yeah yeah and i hope i don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► read the third mirror granted got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► nominated I can't believe it i hope lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► it's gonna be okay you guys gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► okay I hope so thanks for sharing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► well this is book club two weeks in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► row how about that crazy we should stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► yeah seriously quit over as here so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► what am i doing i I'm trying to reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► I'm trying to read what we you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► we did this a week ago so what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► I want to finish the capital patrols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► total is which I was really big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► finish the book i was really and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► another wow I don't know what's got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► was really her through uh lost in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► book on thursday next novel who struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► struggling and it's not really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► very well for me but you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► it'll pick up its otherwise his his a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► his character names make me laugh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► laugh and laugh because they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► ridiculous I feel like just before word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► is the kind of author that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► immediately like or immediately dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► well that hasn't happened with me either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► one either way I've in the dyno that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► was a glen cir trying to read it yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► it was just super wow I'm surprised I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► really enjoy i really like to ask for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► lot i know i'm i'm on the fence about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► just I think I've read everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► he is written while even his letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► private letters do I read his email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► well already started his tweets amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► tweets as well enjoy his tweets about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► enjoying screams with all their yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► hotel carpet picture skirt is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► yes Bob and I am reading i have either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► sweet by Jack Campbell oh I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► couple of those books that have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► know i think i have one of those but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► haven't read it it's interesting it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► like the premise a lot i am i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► to see if as the book and I guess this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► is a longer series will see you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► if I finished the first book if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► compelled to go on to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► books in the series has in trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► the writing in the first book though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► is very much like you know it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► something sort of action-packed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► designed to get you like sucked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► but having come right off of Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► Border Patrol's Alliance eat you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► was kind of like looking at it two books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► and being like these are not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► the same caliber I just I i had real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► trouble with the beginning of this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► because I felt like all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► were talking to each other and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► all saying exactly what they mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► little words like people don't people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► don't do that people don't talk like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► know right that that straightforwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► so we'll see i'm still reading it I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► finish it and see see if I'm compelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► to go on is apparently a quite lengthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► series Scott uh what what should I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► next I have on my kindle right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► have never wear by Neil Gaiman I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► considered officially bus carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► since ye and Wang's well I've ever both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► and i have good omens by Neil Gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► I've read all three if you read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► three of those as well I didn't ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► no I got you down I'd read all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► those which I read next of those three i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► would pick consider of feel however slay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► bus syllabus because i love the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► books are and it is the 25th anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► of the culture series so you can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYbTObA/4100">TS</a>]