The Incomparable

112: Schrodinger`s Cat Box


00:00:00   the incomparable podcast episode 100 [TS]

00:00:05   well October atlantique well this is the [TS]

00:00:11   incomparable duh-duh-dunnnnn our first [TS]

00:00:18   contestant the master Otomo for a sec [TS]

00:00:23   come home with us the people's chorus or [TS]

00:00:26   the answer as a question [TS]

00:00:29   two-time jeopardy champion and raining [TS]

00:00:33   jeopardy champion in this corner no way [TS]

00:00:36   to segment the boxing metaphor [TS]

00:00:38   it's glenn fleischmann plan thank you [TS]

00:00:41   thank you i'm still in position one on [TS]

00:00:45   stage as you're in a state of grace we [TS]

00:00:48   speak this moment it's raining jeopardy [TS]

00:00:50   champion that's why we have you on the [TS]

00:00:51   income also joining me I'm your host [TS]

00:00:53   Jason L in this special game show [TS]

00:00:56   episode of the incomparable not the kind [TS]

00:00:58   where we do a game show we already did [TS]

00:00:59   that one where we talk about game shows [TS]

00:01:01   our next contestant from New England you [TS]

00:01:07   know him you love him and Enoch oh come [TS]

00:01:09   on down [TS]

00:01:10   sure thank you thank you Jason can I [TS]

00:01:15   just say hello to my wife Edna my son's [TS]

00:01:19   a Dinkley and Fort Ord and and a [TS]

00:01:22   kingston if you're still up daddy who [TS]

00:01:24   says goodnight you should be codependent [TS]

00:01:26   now I'm really excited about playing the [TS]

00:01:28   game Jason and in the center square he's [TS]

00:01:33   flamboyant but lovable it's steve Lutz [TS]

00:01:36   hello hello I'm trying to decide whether [TS]

00:01:41   I'm the whoopi goldberg center square or [TS]

00:01:44   the point out of London the all your [TS]

00:01:46   wallet your Paul NBA Holland pollen [TS]

00:01:49   pollen all the way but it's that's there [TS]

00:01:51   really is no good choice there is no no [TS]

00:01:53   no not OD fields brassiere [TS]

00:01:56   haha i can't believe i didn't start the [TS]

00:01:59   show by saying this podcast was so [TS]

00:02:01   boring they wants to show about blank [TS]

00:02:03   too mad birds out bumpin into it so [TS]

00:02:11   Glenn I mean jeez [TS]

00:02:13   this is all about the fact that Glenn [TS]

00:02:15   was on Jeopardy anyone [TS]

00:02:18   it's a little crazy it's a little crazy [TS]

00:02:20   ah twice the first one was a was a fluke [TS]

00:02:24   uh I'm so the shock so you may recall [TS]

00:02:27   that jeopardy tapes in advance so i had [TS]

00:02:29   to keep this quiet for like ten weeks [TS]

00:02:32   how did you manage that that's crazy [TS]

00:02:33   it's okay because the incomparable also [TS]

00:02:35   tapes in advance and we've been keeping [TS]

00:02:37   this podcast episode on ice for about 10 [TS]

00:02:39   years so intently 10 the magic of radio [TS]

00:02:42   broadcast radio is now been destroyed [TS]

00:02:45   forever [TS]

00:02:45   thank you and a magical jeopardy because [TS]

00:02:48   now I know it's wrong I thought it was [TS]

00:02:49   broadcast live it's um it's actually now [TS]

00:02:52   here's an interesting thing so the way [TS]

00:02:53   jeopardy is shot so they actually shoot [TS]

00:02:56   it as a live show [TS]

00:02:58   it's essentially shot live and live to [TS]

00:03:01   tape as they say I think yeah if there's [TS]

00:03:04   a problem they stop it and they headed [TS]

00:03:05   out on the edit out little bits and [TS]

00:03:07   pieces here to fit into a lot of length [TS]

00:03:09   but I hadn't thought of that aspect of [TS]

00:03:11   it because the gameplay that goes and [TS]

00:03:12   there's all this law about game shows [TS]

00:03:15   because that is the quiz show scandal [TS]

00:03:16   yeah and that's still I mean I cannot [TS]

00:03:19   tell you how many pieces of paper I [TS]

00:03:20   signed before going on the show I [TS]

00:03:22   there's an hour-and-a-half briefing in [TS]

00:03:24   the morning both you know each day you [TS]

00:03:26   hear it because the new crop of people [TS]

00:03:27   comes through and I there's just um [TS]

00:03:30   there's an enormous amount that still [TS]

00:03:32   harkens back to that corruption and the [TS]

00:03:34   gameshow industry today is still trying [TS]

00:03:36   to be scrupulously fair and Islam is [TS]

00:03:40   federally required to be a scrupulously [TS]

00:03:41   fair as they were in the wake of that [TS]

00:03:43   and there's so much and some of these [TS]

00:03:45   incredibly strange small things even [TS]

00:03:48   that that still are trying to make sure [TS]

00:03:51   people feel these games aren't fixed [TS]

00:03:52   that what happens [TS]

00:03:53   Israel and when you have something that [TS]

00:03:55   happens like Ken Jennings winning 274 [TS]

00:03:58   episodes in a row a few years ago on [TS]

00:04:00   Jeopardy people wonder you know is it a [TS]

00:04:02   setup whatever it's set in and I can [TS]

00:04:04   tell you from the inside they take it [TS]

00:04:06   all extremely seriously and they do [TS]

00:04:08   everything in their power to make sure [TS]

00:04:10   it's a level playing field and have [TS]

00:04:12   outside compliance people there as well [TS]

00:04:15   watching to make sure that nothing funny [TS]

00:04:16   is going on i always have that [TS]

00:04:18   disclaimer that says portions of this [TS]

00:04:20   program not affecting the outcome have [TS]

00:04:22   been added that so they want to keep his [TS]

00:04:24   light touch on as possible [TS]

00:04:26   so I'll get all the heavy breathing yeah [TS]

00:04:28   yeah we're breathing issues Glenn they [TS]

00:04:31   have great sound guys on the show let me [TS]

00:04:33   tell you that offer some numbers at you [TS]

00:04:36   so here's this is fascinating things [TS]

00:04:38   about me so jeopardy 29th season it's in [TS]

00:04:41   currently it is taped 6500 episodes [TS]

00:04:45   which is the staggering they shoot for [TS]

00:04:48   forty seven weeks of production a year a [TS]

00:04:51   hundred thousand people audition through [TS]

00:04:53   the online screening every year now they [TS]

00:04:55   switch to online screening they get at [TS]

00:04:58   three to four thousand people in person [TS]

00:05:00   to audition in cities all over this fair [TS]

00:05:02   land of ours and then they pick about [TS]

00:05:04   400 people who actually come in and not [TS]

00:05:06   all of those people necessarily get in [TS]

00:05:07   the air if you have a long run like Ken [TS]

00:05:08   Jennings that knocks people out who [TS]

00:05:11   would be rotating in his place so you [TS]

00:05:12   can actually have you know 250 or 300 [TS]

00:05:15   people if there's a lot of streaks of [TS]

00:05:16   winners so it's this massive massive [TS]

00:05:18   enterprise to find a particular type of [TS]

00:05:22   person and then they only take a subset [TS]

00:05:24   of that particular type of person they [TS]

00:05:26   find because they can't take everybody [TS]

00:05:28   and you personally so far have crush the [TS]

00:05:31   dreams of four people four people [TS]

00:05:33   yeah I know it's pretty history's worst [TS]

00:05:35   monster ma'am include well well I guess [TS]

00:05:37   technically you you overthrew a reigning [TS]

00:05:39   champion so that wasn't so bad was [TS]

00:05:40   really no actually it's a little too i [TS]

00:05:42   was very lucky the person who beats on [TS]

00:05:44   wednesday night of this week I the woman [TS]

00:05:47   who was the seven-time champion was [TS]

00:05:49   beaten by someone else was in my group I [TS]

00:05:51   and then I be the person who beat her so [TS]

00:05:54   technically only overthrew Shiite IBT by [TS]

00:05:56   the one-time champion [TS]

00:05:57   alright that's good so you did really [TS]

00:05:59   only crushed three people streams [TS]

00:06:00   exactly it's really not quite as much as [TS]

00:06:02   I would have hoped but you know there's [TS]

00:06:04   still time [TS]

00:06:05   that's ok you know you got you could [TS]

00:06:07   keep on going you could be Ken Jennings [TS]

00:06:08   you could crush the dreams of thousands [TS]

00:06:10   more at this moment it's a shorter girls [TS]

00:06:12   game show cat but you never know [TS]

00:06:14   you still haven't beaten deep blue yeah [TS]

00:06:17   that's right still out there [TS]

00:06:20   what is shall I compare thee to a [TS]

00:06:22   summers day I don't recall [TS]

00:06:24   schrödinger's cat box recall the box [TS]

00:06:28   well what happens is you when you look [TS]

00:06:30   at you you're uncertain whether there's [TS]

00:06:31   pool under the surface yeah until until [TS]

00:06:33   you look inside it's unclear whether [TS]

00:06:35   there's poo in the box both do need to [TS]

00:06:37   and not change the cat litter [TS]

00:06:38   excellent excellent point yeah wow how [TS]

00:06:42   did we get here so so glad it's strange [TS]

00:06:44   that we're at acting as if we haven't [TS]

00:06:46   seen this episode but again we taped the [TS]

00:06:48   incomparable so far in advance that we [TS]

00:06:50   haven't actually seen these episodes so [TS]

00:06:51   tell us about the experience of you you [TS]

00:06:54   said you know you you manage somehow to [TS]

00:06:56   squeak through and be be chosen [TS]

00:06:58   there are many other people who qualify [TS]

00:07:00   for jeopardy and aren't chosen Andy Andy [TS]

00:07:03   I i was offered they said that it would [TS]

00:07:07   break too many hearts that they don't [TS]

00:07:09   have not catch anything going on [TS]

00:07:11   it killed their ratings have the same [TS]

00:07:12   guy weekend we got this gave me a lump [TS]

00:07:14   sum check of 300,000 dollars to go away [TS]

00:07:16   and pretend as though this audition ever [TS]

00:07:18   happened to do not don't ruin the show [TS]

00:07:20   have you deposited the check yet don't [TS]

00:07:22   know [TS]

00:07:23   oh no I i actually got them actually got [TS]

00:07:26   that money in tires so just it's just to [TS]

00:07:29   make sure that was untraceable [TS]

00:07:30   its internal and her wax and preset for [TS]

00:07:33   the next 90 winners here in New England [TS]

00:07:34   you know I'm get full of advil yeah well [TS]

00:07:36   so the the deal is I had dinner with a [TS]

00:07:39   friend when I was in Los Angeles and she [TS]

00:07:41   said jeopardy is a reality show and I [TS]

00:07:44   said what no it's oh it is a reality [TS]

00:07:47   show it's a very weird kind of reality [TS]

00:07:49   show but it is it's you know it's as [TS]

00:07:51   opposed to additional people you know if [TS]

00:07:53   you do survivor or The Great Race or all [TS]

00:07:56   of these other amazing dress but is it [TS]

00:07:58   was yes they must be Giants the Giants [TS]

00:08:01   but cooking show the big stitching show [TS]

00:08:05   and project runway it because he went on [TS]

00:08:08   this one show he's already being [TS]

00:08:09   condescending to other people and other [TS]

00:08:11   games shows its 60 miles only has done [TS]

00:08:13   to you class it's time to time ship what [TS]

00:08:15   is the great race alex new story I don't [TS]

00:08:20   answer any questions let me tell you [TS]

00:08:21   that what is desultory this unlicensed [TS]

00:08:24   knockoff ran ecuador for two seasons [TS]

00:08:26   before and shot down so so is reality [TS]

00:08:29   show it is they are they're all the [TS]

00:08:31   reality shows that try to heighten back [TS]

00:08:33   like essentially most reality shows are [TS]

00:08:35   looking at turmoil among personalities [TS]

00:08:38   and as tasks of some kind of completed [TS]

00:08:40   and tasks are presented and they're [TS]

00:08:41   supposed to stress people out the same [TS]

00:08:43   thing jeopardy is actually that which I [TS]

00:08:45   never thought of that way is I thought [TS]

00:08:46   of it as a competition and yesterday [TS]

00:08:48   other competitors was really how fast am [TS]

00:08:50   I how quickly my house [TS]

00:08:52   Oh agile mi to make things happen but in [TS]

00:08:54   fact you know you are playing against [TS]

00:08:56   other people is not a nice elation and [TS]

00:08:59   you spend on a tape typically two days a [TS]

00:09:03   week in the tapes five shows a day so [TS]

00:09:05   there is an endurance contest aspect to [TS]

00:09:07   it to you have to you know be ready to [TS]

00:09:09   go at any moment because they pick you [TS]

00:09:12   randomly from a stack unless you unless [TS]

00:09:14   you win in return you don't know that [TS]

00:09:15   you're going to play the next game or [TS]

00:09:16   not you can be kept over for another day [TS]

00:09:19   you might have to come back in two weeks [TS]

00:09:20   depending on how it goes so you're sort [TS]

00:09:22   of in that state of anticipation and [TS]

00:09:24   adrenaline rush and caffeine and [TS]

00:09:26   everything else and your huddled with [TS]

00:09:28   your fellow contestants and here's [TS]

00:09:29   something I never thought about before i [TS]

00:09:31   got on the show is we do all the [TS]

00:09:33   rehearsal in the morning they go through [TS]

00:09:34   we can talk more about details later you [TS]

00:09:36   know it we're introducing this huge [TS]

00:09:37   briefing we do rehearsal with all the [TS]

00:09:40   actual gear they run through stuff and [TS]

00:09:41   then you go out there you all the [TS]

00:09:43   contestants are kept together at all [TS]

00:09:44   times because of the game show law so we [TS]

00:09:47   don't can't go off include or whatever [TS]

00:09:49   there's always a staffer in the room [TS]

00:09:50   with us who only deals with the [TS]

00:09:52   contestants there's a wall between them [TS]

00:09:54   and the writers of people no answers [TS]

00:09:55   plus there's a chance you might hit you [TS]

00:09:57   over the head with a folding chair and [TS]

00:09:58   you want to miss that it's true way and [TS]

00:10:00   you know if they only ran cameras [TS]

00:10:01   backstage they would see how boring a [TS]

00:10:03   polite we are but so you start out with [TS]

00:10:04   i think is about 14 people and the [TS]

00:10:06   returning champion and were sitting [TS]

00:10:08   around talking get to know each other [TS]

00:10:09   you drink coffee laughing apparent notes [TS]

00:10:11   and you know getting the briefing [TS]

00:10:12   whatever it's all fun and games you go [TS]

00:10:14   out there you watching you rehearse you [TS]

00:10:16   sit down the ice was in the separate [TS]

00:10:17   rows we're not supposed to if there's [TS]

00:10:18   family members there you can't even wait [TS]

00:10:20   I didn't didn't have anybody there can't [TS]

00:10:21   wave or talk to anybody not supposed to [TS]

00:10:24   make eye contact with family members [TS]

00:10:25   again to keep everything on the up and [TS]

00:10:27   up and then the 1st game plays and in my [TS]

00:10:30   case this would have been a monday of [TS]

00:10:32   the week that we're in now the returning [TS]

00:10:34   champion she came out and completely [TS]

00:10:36   blood blackpath slaughter these two [TS]

00:10:38   perfectly nice guys she's great [TS]

00:10:40   fantastic player and and they were smart [TS]

00:10:43   guys they just got completely destroyed [TS]

00:10:46   and then they're gone they can't be with [TS]

00:10:48   us or not contesting Morse they can't [TS]

00:10:49   take it away they can sit another part [TS]

00:10:51   of the audience so they can leave and [TS]

00:10:53   now there's 13 of us and as the day goes [TS]

00:10:55   on there are fewer fewer people who say [TS]

00:10:58   they're going to oh my god it starts to [TS]

00:11:00   get a little creepy and you don't think [TS]

00:11:01   about that aspect i never thought about [TS]

00:11:03   it [TS]

00:11:03   I forgotten that contestants once [TS]

00:11:05   they're longer contestants they are no [TS]

00:11:07   longer allowed to be in our little cone [TS]

00:11:08   of quarantine so that was a little of [TS]

00:11:11   that part was surprising we're all gonna [TS]

00:11:12   huh [TS]

00:11:13   it's a little like being in Vietnam you [TS]

00:11:16   just don't even learn baby you don't [TS]

00:11:17   even need to learn the names of the new [TS]

00:11:19   guys because he's probably be gone [TS]

00:11:20   before you know loses it's either me or [TS]

00:11:23   them babies either you're gone or if you [TS]

00:11:25   stay there you've destroyed them so it's [TS]

00:11:27   um but there's a lot of mutual support [TS]

00:11:28   to everyone we are generally the [TS]

00:11:30   attitude was we all wished we could all [TS]

00:11:32   wind because it was actually very nice [TS]

00:11:34   and funny and interesting and and so you [TS]

00:11:37   are competing but i am not that [TS]

00:11:39   bloodthirsty and I was really competing [TS]

00:11:41   against my own ability to bring in well [TS]

00:11:43   I you know I've always thought that like [TS]

00:11:45   survivor and The Amazing Race those are [TS]

00:11:46   we call them reality shows but they're [TS]

00:11:48   not reality shows like the real world or [TS]

00:11:50   something like that they are game there [TS]

00:11:51   i guess they call them nbme categories [TS]

00:11:54   the reality-competition program but it [TS]

00:11:55   is their game survivor you know for all [TS]

00:11:58   of its kind of manufacture drew [TS]

00:12:00   interpersonal drama it's a game show it [TS]

00:12:02   today their contests and people are [TS]

00:12:04   competing and and you know your it's [TS]

00:12:06   funny to think about that they're not [TS]

00:12:08   that far off from jeopardy and i would [TS]

00:12:10   imagine that when they pick contestants [TS]

00:12:12   the to be in that random pool [TS]

00:12:14   they're also picking you know that they [TS]

00:12:16   you gotta qualify by answering these [TS]

00:12:18   questions in these qualifications to [TS]

00:12:20   show that you're worthy contestant but [TS]

00:12:22   then at some point I'd imagine you're [TS]

00:12:23   also being cast right there like the [TS]

00:12:25   people we want to have on the area its [TS]

00:12:27   casting oh yeah i mean they're they're [TS]

00:12:29   testing the reason to do in person [TS]

00:12:30   auditions with what they told me at one [TS]

00:12:31   point was they said they used to do [TS]

00:12:33   these cattle call auditions and my good [TS]

00:12:35   friend Jeff Duncan has gone through a [TS]

00:12:36   bunch of Jeopardy auditions and and he [TS]

00:12:39   and I went up auditioning this time [TS]

00:12:40   around at the same time which was sort [TS]

00:12:42   of hilarious and they had 21 slots in [TS]

00:12:44   seattle we both got called for the same [TS]

00:12:46   expect was like of course and in so he [TS]

00:12:49   told me he's been through he started [TS]

00:12:50   auditioning in college even and the the [TS]

00:12:54   way they used to do it is they'd you'd [TS]

00:12:56   send a postcard to them or something [TS]

00:12:57   crazy for even when there is the [TS]

00:12:59   internet it's still send a postcard and [TS]

00:13:01   they would call people are so no doubt [TS]

00:13:02   like we're going to be in your area come [TS]

00:13:03   here and take a test or you go to LA at [TS]

00:13:05   certain times and then do it when they [TS]

00:13:07   only did in LA and so they get a room [TS]

00:13:08   full of people and they said they would [TS]

00:13:10   hand out the test and you know this [TS]

00:13:11   rapid fire thing to answer really [TS]

00:13:13   fascinates score it and then they'd send [TS]

00:13:15   almost everybody [TS]

00:13:16   I was just incredible it was a Hecatomb [TS]

00:13:18   they just kept you get a hundred people [TS]

00:13:20   like what would be left a calling of the [TS]

00:13:23   herd [TS]

00:13:24   yeah it was pretty soon as brutal from [TS]

00:13:26   the contestant coordinator 10.2 is a [TS]

00:13:28   very inefficient way for them to find [TS]

00:13:30   people who had both the intellectual [TS]

00:13:33   ability ability to work under time [TS]

00:13:34   pressure and who they thought would [TS]

00:13:36   actually prevent one TV so this new [TS]

00:13:38   system where they're going and much [TS]

00:13:40   larger pool and they're there to I mean [TS]

00:13:42   I can't tell you how much the people of [TS]

00:13:44   all the shower all increase its a little [TS]

00:13:47   Stockholm Syndrome sure but they are all [TS]

00:13:48   actually really delightful it with me [TS]

00:13:51   that much so they're all incredibly [TS]

00:13:52   delightful people they really love their [TS]

00:13:54   job and they're really fun to hang out [TS]

00:13:56   with your backstage and they make it [TS]

00:13:58   really i mean it's a game should be fun [TS]

00:14:00   but they really make it it's clear they [TS]

00:14:01   all people [TS]

00:14:03   it reminds me of a chromatic macworld [TS]

00:14:05   magazine everyone likes to work together [TS]

00:14:06   back when was this year first attempt at [TS]

00:14:08   getting on the show you just looked into [TS]

00:14:10   it it was it was and I think you know I [TS]

00:14:12   gotta say it's others a little biography [TS]

00:14:14   like I you know I I i think i present [TS]

00:14:17   myself reasonably well but it's also i [TS]

00:14:19   had a couple of good stories I've got [TS]

00:14:21   another very interesting background but [TS]

00:14:23   I had a few good anecdotes about what [TS]

00:14:24   happened I'm pretty sure that the [TS]

00:14:26   50-question screening tests they do when [TS]

00:14:29   you get there so the hundred thousand [TS]

00:14:30   people do online that's a rapid-fire [TS]

00:14:32   scheduled you have to like go online at [TS]

00:14:35   a very specific time they tell you be [TS]

00:14:37   ready have flash working and whatever [TS]

00:14:39   that help and then you if you pass that [TS]

00:14:42   then when the audition you get another [TS]

00:14:43   50-question test the right and just [TS]

00:14:45   answers no questions answer the [TS]

00:14:47   following questions thank God and i'm [TS]

00:14:48   pretty sure i got 46 or 47 out of 50 [TS]

00:14:51   right which was much much better than [TS]

00:14:53   they do the online test I thought I'd [TS]

00:14:55   done horribly on so I scored well [TS]

00:14:57   there's they may be a good contender I [TS]

00:14:58   presented myself reasonably well and I [TS]

00:14:59   had a few good funny stories the [TS]

00:15:02   simulation game i did in the audition I [TS]

00:15:04   think I did quite well with this there's [TS]

00:15:06   a lot of game mechanics there watching [TS]

00:15:08   if you can pick it up really fast [TS]

00:15:09   because here's the other thing i didn't [TS]

00:15:11   think about they're not only suddenly [TS]

00:15:13   reality show or reality-competition they [TS]

00:15:15   also have to train you for television in [TS]

00:15:17   about two hours they get a room full of [TS]

00:15:19   people most of them never been on TV or [TS]

00:15:21   anything to do with being on TV and they [TS]

00:15:23   train you to present on TV for a [TS]

00:15:25   twenty-something minute segments in two [TS]

00:15:27   hours so they have to get people who [TS]

00:15:28   they believe they can try [TS]

00:15:30   I mean to do that will follow the rules [TS]

00:15:31   who won't burst out what burst out [TS]

00:15:33   crying during questions won't start [TS]

00:15:35   yelling won't argue with Alex let's say [TS]

00:15:37   inappropriate things that make them at [TS]

00:15:39   the stop and curl into a ball hot you [TS]

00:15:41   know hunched over there the microphone [TS]

00:15:43   but it's interesting isn't it because [TS]

00:15:44   you think of any average population of [TS]

00:15:47   relatively intelligent people you can [TS]

00:15:48   memorize things that those would be [TS]

00:15:50   reasonable reactions from some [TS]

00:15:52   percentage all this you don't have [TS]

00:15:53   people there's nobody there with a blush [TS]

00:15:55   reaction you know people of involuntary [TS]

00:15:56   blush reaction [TS]

00:15:57   no one there had involuntary flush [TS]

00:15:59   reaction which i'm sure they watch for [TS]

00:16:01   and I'm sure the fact that you nutramax [TS]

00:16:02   mom and his dentist probably didn't hurt [TS]

00:16:04   so Glenn can you tell me a little bit [TS]

00:16:07   walk us through a little bit what the [TS]

00:16:08   experience was I mean you've set a [TS]

00:16:10   little bit about being in the holding [TS]

00:16:11   pen with your fellow victims none none [TS]

00:16:13   of whom blush none of whom lunch rush [TS]

00:16:16   they're all blush for all they failed [TS]

00:16:18   their point boy camp test and they're [TS]

00:16:19   all applicants he just said they don't [TS]

00:16:22   blush involuntarily maybe they didn't [TS]

00:16:24   really want her there was wondering if [TS]

00:16:26   your conscience [TS]

00:16:27   they all have voluntary blood control [TS]

00:16:29   well so what they do is get some so that [TS]

00:16:32   the process is really really well [TS]

00:16:34   thought out because they've got a very [TS]

00:16:36   tight amount of time so i think i was [TS]

00:16:37   saying earlier they tape five shows a [TS]

00:16:39   day two days a week sometimes depending [TS]

00:16:41   on what's going on tape five shows on [TS]

00:16:43   one day and then tape the next so [TS]

00:16:45   they're catching up right now from [TS]

00:16:46   summer hiatus where they're showing [TS]

00:16:48   reruns whether they're getting ahead [TS]

00:16:49   that already taped a few weeks of shows [TS]

00:16:51   when I was when I got there and [TS]

00:16:53   underwear from out of town lines up [TS]

00:16:54   staying at the same hotel it's a few [TS]

00:16:56   miles away it's very nice and then a [TS]

00:16:57   group you know corporate rate so you go [TS]

00:16:59   in the morning and there's always people [TS]

00:17:01   holding extra clothes and they asked you [TS]

00:17:03   to bring a 3 like wearing outfits ready [TS]

00:17:05   to go on the air and bring a couple [TS]

00:17:07   changes of clothes case you went and [TS]

00:17:09   they need to pretend that you're there [TS]

00:17:10   for another day or soil yourself that is [TS]

00:17:12   not an option of these people soil [TS]

00:17:14   themselves either i should have been [TS]

00:17:15   involuntarily or involuntarily neither [TS]

00:17:17   understand you don't you just get out so [TS]

00:17:19   you go down to you know the area we're [TS]

00:17:21   waiting the hotel runs the shuttle and [TS]

00:17:22   they take everybody over there and [TS]

00:17:23   seeing all these somewhat nervous people [TS]

00:17:25   y'all gonna bust together and you're [TS]

00:17:27   joking around you go to the studio and [TS]

00:17:29   they should drop you off on this site [TS]

00:17:30   wait here the corner will be here in [TS]

00:17:31   your like did we just a joke isn't it is [TS]

00:17:34   this a bit like a parking lot somewhere [TS]

00:17:35   here you like wait outside of parking [TS]

00:17:37   lot of the studies on the Sony lot you [TS]

00:17:39   like really [TS]

00:17:41   they come out they take you in and then [TS]

00:17:42   you're with the contestant coordinator [TS]

00:17:44   for the rest of the time of your [TS]

00:17:46   contestant on the show and they there's [TS]

00:17:49   several people they're all the if you [TS]

00:17:50   read i read ken jennings book called [TS]

00:17:53   Brainiac which he wrote shortly after [TS]

00:17:55   his experience as a combination of it's [TS]

00:17:58   a great idea for this show for [TS]

00:17:59   uncomfortable it's a great book because [TS]

00:18:01   it's a combination of his experience in [TS]

00:18:03   the show interleaved with really [TS]

00:18:06   interesting stuff about the history of [TS]

00:18:07   trivia like why do we care about trivia [TS]

00:18:09   as a category and some very funny [TS]

00:18:11   stories a lot some interesting travel [TS]

00:18:13   for him as well research he's a good [TS]

00:18:15   writer and so I read Ken's book and also [TS]

00:18:18   read Bob Harris who is a five-time [TS]

00:18:21   winner in 1995 then came back for a [TS]

00:18:23   bunch of terminal champions shows [TS]

00:18:25   prisoner of Tribeca Stan which is also [TS]

00:18:27   it's actually a lovely memoir that's [TS]

00:18:29   disguised as a book that teaches you had [TS]

00:18:31   a win in jeopardy [TS]

00:18:32   so it's funny I and so a lot of the [TS]

00:18:34   people here like Maggie is the main [TS]

00:18:36   coordinator you hear her name all the [TS]

00:18:38   time she's in Cannes book she's been on [TS]

00:18:39   the show for 15 years [TS]

00:18:41   she's a who she's hilarious you spend [TS]

00:18:43   all this time with these people who run [TS]

00:18:45   the show and you have to be separated [TS]

00:18:47   from the writers because of the fairness [TS]

00:18:49   things you never talk you never alone [TS]

00:18:51   with anybody who's not a contestant [TS]

00:18:52   coordinator you never have access to [TS]

00:18:54   anybody else who works on the show and [TS]

00:18:57   accepting the sound people come into [TS]

00:18:58   makeup people and so forth so you spend [TS]

00:19:00   a couple hours [TS]

00:19:01   there's pastries there's coffee drinks [TS]

00:19:04   and they get to your makeup and they run [TS]

00:19:06   through all of the legal stuff all of [TS]

00:19:09   the parameters the show how the game is [TS]

00:19:11   played the answer questions and then you [TS]

00:19:14   go and do rehearsal and you go up [TS]

00:19:16   onstage and it's the Jeopardy stage the [TS]

00:19:18   real thing and they run you through the [TS]

00:19:20   whole process you get a test the buzzer [TS]

00:19:22   e answer questions another guy named [TS]

00:19:23   Glen axes Alex and runs through several [TS]

00:19:26   games for the things they rotate us [TS]

00:19:27   through we sit in the audience and we [TS]

00:19:28   have some real time working with the [TS]

00:19:30   system and then they bring the actual [TS]

00:19:32   studio audience in about ten thirty and [TS]

00:19:34   they start to shoot shows and they cycle [TS]

00:19:36   us through that I have a quick go back [TS]

00:19:38   as a contestant do you get full access [TS]

00:19:41   to the craft services table or they just [TS]

00:19:43   cut off a small subset of the items and [TS]

00:19:45   hand them over to you it is not for [TS]

00:19:47   craft services i'm sorry and just leaves [TS]

00:19:49   us with a very nice fruit plate very [TS]

00:19:51   very nice and there's a very nice [TS]

00:19:53   pastry and bake goods played but you [TS]

00:19:56   don't get like Alex Trebek ex-convict [TS]

00:19:59   over cheese now they do take us out to [TS]

00:20:02   look for their issue if you're still in [TS]

00:20:03   place by lunch [TS]

00:20:04   hey to take you to the sunny commissary [TS]

00:20:07   where you may see such celebrities as I [TS]

00:20:10   don't know how extra mentor George [TS]

00:20:12   Clooney Alex doesn't eat they are one [TS]

00:20:15   question when do they do they put you on [TS]

00:20:17   like a data blackout as well because if [TS]

00:20:19   I if I knew that I've got like five [TS]

00:20:21   hours until i might be called I'd have [TS]

00:20:23   like a card with like here all the state [TS]

00:20:24   capitals here all the president's might [TS]

00:20:26   be at least like looking at this thing [TS]

00:20:28   recently like looking things up on my [TS]

00:20:29   iphone just cram last-minute short-term [TS]

00:20:32   memory facts into my head or do they say [TS]

00:20:34   nope you can't have a phone in here you [TS]

00:20:35   can have papers you can have anything [TS]

00:20:36   they're not that strict they do ask you [TS]

00:20:39   to turn off your cellphone's when you [TS]

00:20:40   get on a lot and not turn it back on [TS]

00:20:41   until the end of the day but they don't [TS]

00:20:43   there's not a there's no they're not [TS]

00:20:45   very you know rigorous about that i mean [TS]

00:20:47   they do I think if they saw people doing [TS]

00:20:48   something they'd say something of the [TS]

00:20:50   phone rang it would be a problem because [TS]

00:20:51   I would violate the rules but they just [TS]

00:20:53   expect everyone to follow them you can [TS]

00:20:55   have a book i had and i didn't see [TS]

00:20:56   anyone doing like flop sweats flop flop [TS]

00:20:59   sweat studying like no one was whipping [TS]

00:21:01   out steps like your your fate is sealed [TS]

00:21:03   your doom two might as well just sit [TS]

00:21:07   there and take care either you pay [TS]

00:21:08   attention American history class 18 [TS]

00:21:10   years ago or you didn't [TS]

00:21:12   yeah comes that point you're cramming [TS]

00:21:14   where you just realize it's a completely [TS]

00:21:15   lost cause and you just sit back and [TS]

00:21:17   cried when it's time to it's time to be [TS]

00:21:19   the ball [TS]

00:21:20   although I credit the Bob Harris book i [TS]

00:21:22   present to record Stan I credit him [TS]

00:21:24   because i read that book several weeks [TS]

00:21:28   before i was on the show and because i [TS]

00:21:30   heard it had some strategy and it does [TS]

00:21:32   have a lot of interesting strategy and i [TS]

00:21:33   use the strategy and i would argue and [TS]

00:21:35   have actually even email bob harris [TS]

00:21:38   telling us that i would argue that I [TS]

00:21:39   only I only did as well as i did because [TS]

00:21:43   i read his book for two reasons one is [TS]

00:21:45   he explains lashes several reasons don't [TS]

00:21:48   call them but there's several [TS]

00:21:49   interesting things the book one of them [TS]

00:21:51   is that you can deconstruct the clues as [TS]

00:21:55   they appear on screen to the part that [TS]

00:21:57   actually matters because the writers for [TS]

00:21:59   more complicated things especially they [TS]

00:22:02   actually give you the answer in the clue [TS]

00:22:03   if you read it the right way [TS]

00:22:04   yeah so that's you know I think that's [TS]

00:22:06   one thing so i would look at clues and I [TS]

00:22:09   would sometimes be tons of words and i [TS]

00:22:10   would do and he's also you read the [TS]

00:22:12   whole head as fast as you can read you [TS]

00:22:14   don't wait for Alex to read it because [TS]

00:22:15   otherwise you're working only at the [TS]

00:22:16   speed of his sound of the speed of his [TS]

00:22:19   fast you can think which is obvious but [TS]

00:22:21   it's easy to get lulled into it yeah a [TS]

00:22:22   lot of jeopardy questions or I guess [TS]

00:22:25   answers the questions in the form of an [TS]

00:22:27   answer that's uh are are a very small [TS]

00:22:32   fact connected to the category followed [TS]

00:22:36   by a piece of trivia that's irrelevant [TS]

00:22:38   right so there's a lot of like this [TS]

00:22:40   Belgian entertainer once ate an entire [TS]

00:22:44   mackerel right and you're like no no but [TS]

00:22:47   the category is people named named named [TS]

00:22:49   Jacques and it's a belgian entertainer [TS]

00:22:51   and there's only one of those guys and [TS]

00:22:53   it's Jacques Lemaire and it's him and [TS]

00:22:57   and that antenna and that the fact that [TS]

00:23:00   he ate a fish does is completely [TS]

00:23:02   irrelevant to the fact because because [TS]

00:23:04   you don't need that information nobody [TS]

00:23:05   cares it's at first bit and that's [TS]

00:23:07   really all it is like build an [TS]

00:23:08   entertainer shock doctor clues will even [TS]

00:23:11   be I saw ones that were like and I'm not [TS]

00:23:13   recalling exactly like the category will [TS]

00:23:16   be colors and it will be like being for [TS]

00:23:18   the Perseus persistent immersion water [TS]

00:23:21   this you know 19th century fish are the [TS]

00:23:26   93 fish of this color refracts through [TS]

00:23:29   blonde like it's red it's red like [TS]

00:23:31   ignore everything with the fact that [TS]

00:23:32   really just on you it's red or this get [TS]

00:23:34   this crimson fish you know you like [TS]

00:23:35   crimson fish all these crimson color is [TS]

00:23:38   red [TS]

00:23:38   yeah so his book sort of details a [TS]

00:23:41   process by which you deconstruct clues [TS]

00:23:43   and do it and i would say several times [TS]

00:23:45   there's times when you see something [TS]

00:23:46   it's and it's a fact you look at it the [TS]

00:23:48   clue comes up and it's you know this [TS]

00:23:50   American president killed in Ford's [TS]

00:23:51   Theater you don't need to reconstruct [TS]

00:23:53   that's linked in God [TS]

00:23:54   alright was wearing a hat and a certain [TS]

00:23:56   area and now had recently in a [TS]

00:23:58   nineteenth-century crimson fish because [TS]

00:24:00   okay all i know that guy Delta but [TS]

00:24:03   here's the final jeopardy not from you [TS]

00:24:05   know there's a site called Jade a shark [TS]

00:24:07   on that has every single clue and answer [TS]

00:24:11   every score every one about every piece [TS]

00:24:15   of banter that [TS]

00:24:16   alex said presented his game boards for [TS]

00:24:18   the entire history of the show [TS]

00:24:20   god I love the internet that's what the [TS]

00:24:22   internet is for right there [TS]

00:24:23   shadows are great aren't they I now have [TS]

00:24:25   my idea for my next big bang theory [TS]

00:24:27   spectra specialist Sheldon auditions for [TS]

00:24:30   jeopardy and starts off by memorizing [TS]

00:24:32   every answer that's everything my god [TS]

00:24:33   that's perfect [TS]

00:24:35   people do so one of the guys if you [TS]

00:24:37   watch a determined of champions in 2011 [TS]

00:24:39   had this guy named Roger Craig he won a [TS]

00:24:43   total of two hundred thirty one thousand [TS]

00:24:45   dollars over seven days he won the [TS]

00:24:48   highest score dollar man i believe [TS]

00:24:51   77,000 dollars in a single day in the [TS]

00:24:53   2010-11 a run that he had what he did [TS]

00:24:57   and they came back for tournament [TS]

00:24:58   champions and he he did extremely well I [TS]

00:25:01   don't think e1 I don't remember what he [TS]

00:25:03   did uh anyway he did very well he won [TS]

00:25:06   the no idea when the tournament 2011 I'm [TS]

00:25:08   sorry of that year so here's the thing [TS]

00:25:11   what he did is he was a computer [TS]

00:25:13   scientist something like this some [TS]

00:25:14   background programming he took the [TS]

00:25:15   entire j archive thing instead of [TS]

00:25:19   memorizing the sum total of human [TS]

00:25:20   knowledge that falls within the [TS]

00:25:22   parameters of what drop jeopardy test [TS]

00:25:24   son he took the archive any test himself [TS]

00:25:26   incessantly on only two things that come [TS]

00:25:29   up in the show before and that's how we [TS]

00:25:31   want because there's a lot of knowledge [TS]

00:25:33   that they exhaust entire categories of [TS]

00:25:36   things [TS]

00:25:37   the whole point of the questions on [TS]

00:25:39   Jeopardy that they asked the clues is [TS]

00:25:40   people at home have to not feel stupid [TS]

00:25:43   when they don't get it right that is the [TS]

00:25:45   clue is the key to jeopardise they need [TS]

00:25:48   peoplesmart enough fast enough and [TS]

00:25:49   poison up to play the game two or three [TS]

00:25:52   people on stage at a time will know the [TS]

00:25:55   answer to any given question that is a [TS]

00:25:57   that is true i saw it again and again [TS]

00:25:58   but what they need to do is have clues [TS]

00:26:00   that when someone doesn't get they don't [TS]

00:26:02   go I don't care about Plantagenet [TS]

00:26:04   politics [TS]

00:26:05   what is monic they need people they need [TS]

00:26:08   things that are common enough that [TS]

00:26:09   people go all we can learn that 120 [TS]

00:26:11   that's great where they know the answer [TS]

00:26:13   and if it doesn't play at home that way [TS]

00:26:15   it's not a good clue so the universe of [TS]

00:26:17   knowledge is not all facts that could be [TS]

00:26:19   in trivia bar trivia or something or [TS]

00:26:21   obscure trivia contest right nasty [TS]

00:26:22   things that people home aren't [TS]

00:26:24   embarrassed to not know sorry Charlie [TS]

00:26:26   this fish often contains too much [TS]

00:26:29   mercury that's perfect that's part of [TS]

00:26:34   stuff like that because it but hey I [TS]

00:26:36   remember that commercial yeah i'm joking [TS]

00:26:40   but they occasionally do through [TS]

00:26:41   something in like there was a category [TS]

00:26:42   called the Plantagenets and all of the [TS]

00:26:45   questions were like it was when I play [TS]

00:26:47   this was at several weeks ago and i'm [TS]

00:26:48   watching this going like the writers [TS]

00:26:50   went temporarily insane alex is looking [TS]

00:26:52   at it [TS]

00:26:53   everyone's looking at it's like in 1735 [TS]

00:26:55   the Dauphin of France made this really [TS]

00:26:58   was like dying because like you know it [TS]

00:27:01   was there are categories like that are a [TS]

00:27:03   little nutty [TS]

00:27:04   yeah you know there's the the that [TS]

00:27:06   awkward silence when Alex asked the [TS]

00:27:09   question and there's just no answer and [TS]

00:27:11   and it's like anybody want any any [TS]

00:27:14   overlap hate and that's not good TV the [TS]

00:27:18   category was fiction [TS]

00:27:20   he says with his selection alex is that [TS]

00:27:22   is a Dutch uncle he's the perfect [TS]

00:27:23   definition of someone who expresses some [TS]

00:27:27   amount of positivism but most of it is [TS]

00:27:29   it's like slight reproof most the time [TS]

00:27:32   that I thought that chuckles something [TS]

00:27:34   completely different yeah so that was in [TS]

00:27:37   your that was in your high school so [TS]

00:27:38   Glenn I'm how did they pick the kind of [TS]

00:27:42   semi ridiculous bits of personal trivia [TS]

00:27:45   that they that they have during the [TS]

00:27:47   segment where Alex briefly deigns to [TS]

00:27:50   chat with the players [TS]

00:27:51   you're supposed to fill out when you [TS]

00:27:53   fill out at every stage of this process [TS]

00:27:54   you provide information in the form of [TS]

00:27:57   anecdotes not in the form of questions [TS]

00:27:58   and they're they're asking i think at [TS]

00:28:01   least like six different times they [TS]

00:28:03   asked me to provide 325 interesting [TS]

00:28:05   stories of things that happened to me I [TS]

00:28:08   was involved with and i don't know if i [TS]

00:28:10   use the same ones every time but i mean [TS]

00:28:11   and i think i had to fill something out [TS]

00:28:13   even for the online thing with it is [TS]

00:28:15   testing you and then when the audition [TS]

00:28:17   happens they send you something ahead [TS]

00:28:18   and supposed to write it out and then [TS]

00:28:20   you get you know before you go that you [TS]

00:28:21   fill out paperwork and they asked [TS]

00:28:23   whether you get there and they review it [TS]

00:28:25   and they work with you on your stories [TS]

00:28:26   they don't ask you to fake it but they [TS]

00:28:28   want to have [TS]

00:28:29   three items from you any given time so i [TS]

00:28:31   had to come up with more while I was [TS]

00:28:33   there because i want so and they'll be [TS]

00:28:36   like that's not so good i'm like this [TS]

00:28:37   happen to me they're like yeah it's not [TS]

00:28:39   gonna play that well so what about did [TS]

00:28:40   you ever was embarrassing thing nobody [TS]

00:28:43   cares that your mailman once knew Isaac [TS]

00:28:45   Asimov they don't you don't we don't [TS]

00:28:48   care that you met you have they're [TS]

00:28:50   asking you for joining they're asking [TS]

00:28:52   you to do blending that's right i mean i [TS]

00:28:54   cannot think of a more perfect role for [TS]

00:28:55   you I didn't learn as well as I could [TS]

00:28:58   have but I did Clifford so so what so [TS]

00:29:00   not that I because i haven't seen the [TS]

00:29:02   episodes that have already aired what we [TS]

00:29:04   are what we are anecdotes that Alex [TS]

00:29:06   actually asked you about Alex asked me [TS]

00:29:08   about how I broke the first review ipod [TS]

00:29:13   unit i was sent before they were [TS]

00:29:14   released which was a good one and then [TS]

00:29:17   he asked me a very because I you know I [TS]

00:29:18   got an ipod about a month as you [TS]

00:29:19   probably about a month before you try to [TS]

00:29:21   update it [TS]

00:29:22   no I put a audio jack and not realizing [TS]

00:29:25   it was an extra long one and it broke [TS]

00:29:26   the device that broke the circuit board [TS]

00:29:27   and they're like will send the other one [TS]

00:29:29   is very nice very nice [TS]

00:29:31   it's a good story it's like I get one of [TS]

00:29:33   the first ipods and I broke its that's a [TS]

00:29:34   good story you know right our next [TS]

00:29:36   contestant from san diego is no go ahead [TS]

00:29:39   and then talk more generally about i [TS]

00:29:42   mentioned something about how I rather [TS]

00:29:44   like you know I write about technology [TS]

00:29:45   and rather write about things matter to [TS]

00:29:46   people and oddly enough he picked that [TS]

00:29:48   one [TS]

00:29:49   Alex ism Allison cat and I've read and [TS]

00:29:52   write a few books that you know from [TS]

00:29:53   these people been on the show while like [TS]

00:29:54   Bob Harris or ken jennings have been on [TS]

00:29:57   repeatedly or for long periods and [TS]

00:29:58   everyone always wants to know what Alex [TS]

00:30:00   like from people spent that much time [TS]

00:30:02   and he's he's a cipher but you get [TS]

00:30:04   little bits and pieces like Alex [TS]

00:30:06   somebody asked the audience answers [TS]

00:30:08   questions between during commercial you [TS]

00:30:10   know this the results commercial breaks [TS]

00:30:12   we have other touching up makeup and [TS]

00:30:14   doing all that is the only answer that [TS]

00:30:15   shot questions and it's a very personal [TS]

00:30:17   nice guy and very very low key and [TS]

00:30:20   someone said you know what's the most [TS]

00:30:21   extreme thing that's happening when you [TS]

00:30:23   got recognized as like extreme things [TS]

00:30:25   seen things like I don't think anything [TS]

00:30:28   extreme has ever happened when someone's [TS]

00:30:29   recognize great like always say Jack [TS]

00:30:31   about it is said but like someone else [TS]

00:30:33   about cars i can't really into cars like [TS]

00:30:35   I got any mention it's really a normal [TS]

00:30:37   truck models like i like it because i [TS]

00:30:39   can put 16 foot piece of lumber in it [TS]

00:30:41   and [TS]

00:30:42   when I go to my house and he's talking [TS]

00:30:43   about like clearing which does the [TS]

00:30:45   george bush things like clearing brush [TS]

00:30:46   like he when he's not taping he's often [TS]

00:30:49   his ranch in Laurel Canyon working on [TS]

00:30:52   his yard I mean I think that's what he [TS]

00:30:54   enjoys doing I don't think he likes [TS]

00:30:55   technology made some comment to somebody [TS]

00:30:57   it sounded like grandpa I was like yeah [TS]

00:30:58   Jimmy you know the internet right you do [TS]

00:31:00   something is that what city aspect about [TS]

00:31:02   how email works or something you know [TS]

00:31:04   it's his level of technological [TS]

00:31:06   development is very withdrawn and I [TS]

00:31:08   think that's actually kind of cool [TS]

00:31:09   thanks there little man inside the board [TS]

00:31:11   putting up the orange with the answer's [TS]

00:31:13   no [TS]

00:31:14   ah so someone asked them of course as [TS]

00:31:16   they always do I think every taping [TS]

00:31:18   someone said what about SNL do you like [TS]

00:31:20   those he's like I love when people make [TS]

00:31:21   fun of me I think it's great hilarious i [TS]

00:31:23   love will ferrell he was incredibly [TS]

00:31:25   funnies and he can tell he's not a Alex [TS]

00:31:28   as you've seen by watching the show heat [TS]

00:31:30   kinda weird it's hard to sleep a little [TS]

00:31:31   when he has disdain for something he you [TS]

00:31:34   can hear it that's not hidden so he [TS]

00:31:36   clearly enjoyed it and he's talking [TS]

00:31:37   about was great the last time was on [TS]

00:31:39   they asked me on the show what a treat [TS]

00:31:40   that was whatever and then he walks when [TS]

00:31:42   he turns back looks at the audience feel [TS]

00:31:43   to this theory says but I don't like [TS]

00:31:46   Sean Connery maybe what was Sean Connery [TS]

00:31:52   I don't like it or something like that [TS]

00:31:54   i'm like a cancel it was a joke he's [TS]

00:31:56   very dry also known as Joker whatever [TS]

00:31:59   but he's you know he's in our he knows [TS]

00:32:01   it's also Canadian by the way Canadian [TS]

00:32:03   it's of course radians by many in [TS]

00:32:05   simulators he actually recollected back [TS]

00:32:07   to heat this is the 10th game show Alex [TS]

00:32:09   Trebek coaster [TS]

00:32:10   yeah I was gonna say my first experience [TS]

00:32:12   with alex trebek was any fine high [TS]

00:32:14   quality dice rolling basis series high [TS]

00:32:17   rollers Cyril he had a big fro right [TS]

00:32:20   when we add someone out there is so much [TS]

00:32:23   here that Eugene Levy was playing on [TS]

00:32:24   MCTV that's what he brought that up he's [TS]

00:32:26   like I've been parodied by to you know [TS]

00:32:28   well-known communications thank you very [TS]

00:32:30   much [TS]

00:32:31   yeah yeah that's funny that we did he [TS]

00:32:35   end up on a on the show that is [TS]

00:32:37   considered to be you know more [TS]

00:32:39   challenging intellectual and yet I i [TS]

00:32:41   still can remember that he was the guy [TS]

00:32:43   who is like you're gonna roll those dice [TS]

00:32:44   again I mean it was it was like one cut [TS]

00:32:46   below card sharks gotta pay your dues [TS]

00:32:49   man you don't guys are not in jeopardy [TS]

00:32:51   you gotta start down there with pressure [TS]

00:32:52   lock and [TS]

00:32:53   move your way up oh I gotta say the most [TS]

00:32:56   exciting thing this is actually most [TS]

00:32:57   exciting thing I don't know why this is [TS]

00:32:59   so exciting i go in the studio and who [TS]

00:33:01   is there who is there [TS]

00:33:03   johnny gilbert is there Johnny Gilbert [TS]

00:33:05   who you know come on now come on the [TS]

00:33:09   journal detailing their physicals and [TS]

00:33:10   just got this is what jeopardy and he [TS]

00:33:14   does it every time fresh that is a fresh [TS]

00:33:16   he sits there they go wit goten they [TS]

00:33:19   point to him and he felt something out [TS]

00:33:21   perfectly every time he's a t-shirt sold [TS]

00:33:25   it comes and he warms up the audience he [TS]

00:33:28   talks the answers questions [TS]

00:33:30   he's such as like this kind the old guy [TS]

00:33:31   that he sits down and that beautiful [TS]

00:33:33   voice pours out of and that's like a [TS]

00:33:35   voice heard like Don Pardo's my whole [TS]

00:33:38   life and he's saying your name that's [TS]

00:33:40   awesome from Seattle Washington [TS]

00:33:41   technology journalists from Seattle [TS]

00:33:44   Washington out the glinting account so [TS]

00:33:48   Glenn I do you watch you watch jeopardy [TS]

00:33:50   or do you just go and take their money [TS]

00:33:52   I well I so that confession is i watched [TS]

00:33:55   I'm sure watched well over a thousand [TS]

00:33:57   episodes and then we gave up cable and [TS]

00:33:59   we RNA and satellite 1a TV shadow from [TS]

00:34:03   wheeler at the bottom of the hill and [TS]

00:34:05   all the TV transmitters are the top so [TS]

00:34:07   it's very hard for us to even get [TS]

00:34:08   broadcast TV so i didn't watch it for [TS]

00:34:10   several years edition somewhere in there [TS]

00:34:12   but i think i watch jeopardy [TS]

00:34:14   we watched it kind of shows rebooted in [TS]

00:34:16   1984 but I watched reruns and the [TS]

00:34:19   original run with Fleming art Fleming oh [TS]

00:34:22   my gosh great show and I think Don Pardo [TS]

00:34:25   was the announcer that run or something [TS]

00:34:27   everything all right yes because I [TS]

00:34:29   remember because he also did the weird [TS]

00:34:30   al yankovic video [TS]

00:34:31   yes well on Jeopardy was all your [TS]

00:34:34   plumbing and don don pardo you're a [TS]

00:34:36   complete loser is watched I want to know [TS]

00:34:41   from 1984 to probably 2004 I probably [TS]

00:34:45   watched it earlier more but later little [TS]

00:34:49   less but I watched a large chunk of that [TS]

00:34:51   20-year history so I haven't watched [TS]

00:34:53   much last few years I picked up some [TS]

00:34:54   episodes they do a great job in policing [TS]

00:34:56   because it's in syndication you cannot [TS]

00:34:59   find jeopardy shows online and I tried I [TS]

00:35:01   tried to find torrents or downloads and [TS]

00:35:02   I thought there must be some weird [TS]

00:35:04   jeopardy subculture that trades [TS]

00:35:06   episode after the errors or any value [TS]

00:35:08   don't release dvds must be something but [TS]

00:35:11   so what i did is i hooked up an ITV and [TS]

00:35:13   be ye TV and manipulated a 3d TV antenna [TS]

00:35:18   enough that I can get the local NBC [TS]

00:35:20   affiliate which airs i watched a good [TS]

00:35:22   couple months of it before going on so I [TS]

00:35:24   was up-to-date so my um my in-laws watch [TS]

00:35:27   jeopardy religiously they actually have [TS]

00:35:30   a a DVR season pass for jeopardy so they [TS]

00:35:34   will sometimes have three or four [TS]

00:35:35   episodes and then it's like just a a a [TS]

00:35:38   marathon of Jeopardy Clause like let's [TS]

00:35:40   watch another one right well we're while [TS]

00:35:42   we're down there visiting and I I every [TS]

00:35:43   time I see Geoffrey and I used to watch [TS]

00:35:45   it regularly him i always think to [TS]

00:35:46   myself oh ho i can answer many of these [TS]

00:35:49   questions I should be on Jeopardy but [TS]

00:35:51   you know I think one there's the reality [TS]

00:35:53   that I probably shouldn't be on Jeopardy [TS]

00:35:54   into I haven't ever even attempted to be [TS]

00:35:57   on it so I'm I'm fascinated I know Andy [TS]

00:35:59   has taken the the test and Glenn manage [TS]

00:36:04   somehow through a horrible mistake to be [TS]

00:36:07   actually put on the show I selected the [TS]

00:36:10   reality very much like an anthem i [TS]

00:36:12   selected the reality in which I was on [TS]

00:36:14   the show as much easier than actually [TS]

00:36:15   getting on the show the job so so I you [TS]

00:36:18   know it's fascinating to me because I [TS]

00:36:19   you know I i'm one of those people who [TS]

00:36:21   just sort of sits back and says yeah and [TS]

00:36:23   i know some of those questions I oh I [TS]

00:36:24   got that final jeopardy right i could be [TS]

00:36:26   on the show and you know maybe I don't [TS]

00:36:29   know [TS]

00:36:30   plant the plant attention its well [TS]

00:36:32   enough for the vice president's to be I [TS]

00:36:34   just I i audition only because i really [TS]

00:36:37   missed taking standardized tests its [TS]

00:36:38   little guys I'm solid for like five six [TS]

00:36:41   years because I get to sit in a room [TS]

00:36:43   with a tiny desk and a piece of paper [TS]

00:36:44   and somebody will judge me at yes and [TS]

00:36:47   and in the form of a number i will give [TS]

00:36:50   me a number judge me in the form of a [TS]

00:36:52   number with this is scantron i would say [TS]

00:36:59   this though you know the other thing I [TS]

00:37:00   got another thing i got from bob harris [TS]

00:37:02   book i took to heart and absolutely [TS]

00:37:04   helped me was i did go to memorize stuff [TS]

00:37:07   i spent i would say 50 to 60 hours from [TS]

00:37:10   when I got called to and and confirmed [TS]

00:37:13   to be on the show too when I was on the [TS]

00:37:14   first shell I least 40 50 hours i would [TS]

00:37:18   have [TS]

00:37:18   but start with I spent usually almost [TS]

00:37:21   three hours a night after my normal work [TS]

00:37:23   was done memorizing president's potent [TS]

00:37:25   potables vice president hopes state [TS]

00:37:30   matos they love wars they especially [TS]

00:37:33   love the spanish-american war and the [TS]

00:37:37   russell Japanese where I don't know why [TS]

00:37:38   these kind of all the time things about [TS]

00:37:40   them there was a question i believe it [TS]

00:37:42   was the final jeopardy several weeks ago [TS]

00:37:43   I might have been i did a lot of study [TS]

00:37:45   on Jay archive as well to get a sense of [TS]

00:37:47   how the flow of the show goes without [TS]

00:37:49   why I could go through like a hundred [TS]

00:37:51   shows on there so the question was this [TS]

00:37:54   war was ended with a treaty signed it [TS]

00:37:57   wasn't was this i saw that episode when [TS]

00:37:59   i was at my analyze this is paid what [TS]

00:38:01   was it was it was a treaty was signed in [TS]

00:38:03   this city even though it was the tree [TS]

00:38:06   for the war was signed in a city of [TS]

00:38:08   Kittery Maine even though it went under [TS]

00:38:11   a different name and you're like what in [TS]

00:38:12   God's name is wrong with you people and [TS]

00:38:14   the answer was it was the run so [TS]

00:38:16   Japanese war yeah the treaty was signed [TS]

00:38:17   in kittery it was called the Treaty of [TS]

00:38:19   portsmouth yes decided portsmouth yours [TS]

00:38:21   was named after Portsmouth New Hampshire [TS]

00:38:23   one of the most baffling questions i [TS]

00:38:25   understand i'm doing pretty and I don't [TS]

00:38:26   think anyone got it but you're like [TS]

00:38:27   could mostly questions aren't like that [TS]

00:38:29   but i did they like Kaiser Wilhelm II [TS]

00:38:32   like out of as Mark realignment opera of [TS]

00:38:35   the seventeenth and eighteenth century [TS]

00:38:37   arguments there's like it's but it's [TS]

00:38:38   that's you know who's the audience liked [TS]

00:38:41   our show people in their seventies like [TS]

00:38:42   to retirees I think the thing was that [TS]

00:38:45   kittery was a little bit embarrassed to [TS]

00:38:46   be involved with that war so they they [TS]

00:38:48   use portsmouth instead I think the [TS]

00:38:49   Portsmouth is actually like Alan Smithee [TS]

00:38:51   of the treaty signing locale all [TS]

00:38:54   treaties are signed in portsmouth but [TS]

00:38:55   but there are there are so many [TS]

00:38:57   recurring themes that you cannot do so [TS]

00:38:59   that there's a general guidance that [TS]

00:39:01   they're asking questions people at home [TS]

00:39:03   could possibly know the answer to our or [TS]

00:39:05   kick themselves they didn't but they're [TS]

00:39:07   not ridiculous and the other is there's [TS]

00:39:09   a small enough universe so I there are [TS]

00:39:11   many many questions i got correctly i [TS]

00:39:14   got the correct question for because i [TS]

00:39:16   had done this initial studying and I [TS]

00:39:19   didn't poke other people I wasn't trying [TS]

00:39:21   to psych me the axe I'm not that kind of [TS]

00:39:22   bastard but i did ask around a little [TS]

00:39:23   bit i'm not sure most people did things [TS]

00:39:25   and much did that kind of memorization [TS]

00:39:27   and this comes back to me i watched a [TS]

00:39:29   early seasons of Survivor not the first [TS]

00:39:32   season but a few of those with a bunch [TS]

00:39:33   of friends we get together every week [TS]

00:39:34   and watch it for like three seasons and [TS]

00:39:37   after season 1 season 1 shows that [TS]

00:39:39   people don't know what to expect no [TS]

00:39:40   actually yeah so open-hearted where [TS]

00:39:43   they're playing a game think they're on [TS]

00:39:44   the real world and it's a lot of the [TS]

00:39:47   same person is playing a game and wins [TS]

00:39:49   easily after the first season what's the [TS]

00:39:51   one thing you know if you are not just [TS]

00:39:53   audition for what's the one thing you [TS]

00:39:55   should go prepared for when you arrive [TS]

00:39:58   before you arrive you need to know how [TS]

00:40:00   to make tire [TS]

00:40:01   yeah yeah how many people knew how to [TS]

00:40:02   make fire in seasons 23 and 41 you know [TS]

00:40:05   how to pay your first you don't go to [TS]

00:40:06   jail [TS]

00:40:07   yeah well that was yeah that's that's [TS]

00:40:09   nothing was fascinating thing in the [TS]

00:40:11   world that thing but Richard had Richard [TS]

00:40:13   Hatch was actually the answer recently [TS]

00:40:15   too in fact and for that questions I'm [TS]

00:40:17   sure what this early survivor person was [TS]

00:40:18   an idiot in vegas nexus and kinda like [TS]

00:40:20   oh that's libelous no action that is [TS]

00:40:22   exactly what he did so it's not liable [TS]

00:40:24   because he actually did is contagious [TS]

00:40:26   and sex is it back [TS]

00:40:28   no you're right the baby was fundamental [TS]

00:40:30   like what what is what here is a skill [TS]

00:40:31   you need to practice and yet [TS]

00:40:32   mind-bogglingly for the first couple of [TS]

00:40:34   seasons people didn't practice the [TS]

00:40:36   making of fire and yet once you've got [TS]

00:40:38   this will actually why I stopped I [TS]

00:40:40   watched the first probably like eight [TS]

00:40:41   seasons of Survivor and I loved it and I [TS]

00:40:43   loved it not for the spectacle part but [TS]

00:40:45   for the gameplay part the strategy of a [TS]

00:40:48   very strange game where you have to win [TS]

00:40:49   individual challenges but you also have [TS]

00:40:51   to kind of barter with your with your [TS]

00:40:53   your your teammates because they can [TS]

00:40:55   vote you off but in the end they have to [TS]

00:40:57   get you the money so you can't you can't [TS]

00:40:59   be too objectionable in your strategy [TS]

00:41:01   fascinating stuff but the problem is as [TS]

00:41:03   it goes along people learn what they [TS]

00:41:05   need to do exactly perform and then [TS]

00:41:08   everybody knows it and then and then [TS]

00:41:10   you're in that i know that you know that [TS]

00:41:11   I know that you know thing and it's not [TS]

00:41:13   very interesting anymore [TS]

00:41:14   a lot of shows like how they do you [TS]

00:41:16   think like the was the show was the one [TS]

00:41:19   with a guy cleaning millionaire wasn't [TS]

00:41:21   always that show called million a [TS]

00:41:23   million really yeah you can do that once [TS]

00:41:25   apparently they try to date in like [TS]

00:41:26   France they went to some other country [TS]

00:41:27   to try to do people into it on a [TS]

00:41:29   different season but you can't be a [TS]

00:41:31   survivor became a show that lost its [TS]

00:41:33   that lost that I like the four i watch [TS]

00:41:36   later three or four seasons and I was [TS]

00:41:38   fascinated by how interesting it was how [TS]

00:41:40   anthropological it was and how clever [TS]

00:41:42   another some key people on there is also [TS]

00:41:44   some very interesting and and shouldn't [TS]

00:41:46   yeah but you're like okay so your cat [TS]

00:41:48   you know you're putting your cast on [TS]

00:41:49   jeopardy [TS]

00:41:50   hey we're going to be in jeopardy and if [TS]

00:41:51   you're out of town they typically give [TS]

00:41:53   you four five or even six weeks before [TS]

00:41:55   your parents to make sure you can make [TS]

00:41:56   arrangements [TS]

00:41:58   what are you doing that intervening time [TS]

00:41:59   you say oh that's great i disturbing you [TS]

00:42:01   never knew my life [TS]

00:42:02   yeah so I'm not criticizing any pics of [TS]

00:42:04   any other contestants but in my mind I'm [TS]

00:42:06   like I have the time i would actually to [TS]

00:42:08   win and I would say that the my [TS]

00:42:09   investment of time paid off and like you [TS]

00:42:11   know eight hundred dollars an hour or [TS]

00:42:14   something like that so yeah I'm not an [TS]

00:42:15   obvious the first thing i do if they [TS]

00:42:17   told me I was going on Jeopardy would be [TS]

00:42:18   to memorize the president's and the [TS]

00:42:20   state capitals and the state matos and [TS]

00:42:22   all of vice presidents and obscure wars [TS]

00:42:25   the year of the president they're [TS]

00:42:27   actually because they know people will [TS]

00:42:29   memorize president's they now have [TS]

00:42:30   gotten even more granular this is one [TS]

00:42:32   evolution of the show is they do stuff [TS]

00:42:34   about like in 1751 or 1788 blah blah [TS]

00:42:38   blah so they had i believe was the final [TS]

00:42:40   jeopardy last year saw in the archives [TS]

00:42:42   it was between eighteen between us 1841 [TS]

00:42:46   and 1851 there were this was the number [TS]

00:42:49   of presidents who were in office and [TS]

00:42:51   you're like oh my god and the answer [TS]

00:42:52   does anyone know the answer 1741 to our [TS]

00:42:55   1841 rather to 1851 how many presidents [TS]

00:42:58   were office during that period of time [TS]

00:42:59   do sex to what is sex like six is [TS]

00:43:03   correct [TS]

00:43:04   that's very good you should be in [TS]

00:43:05   jeopardy that was the only gas that's [TS]

00:43:08   that's not crazy in there it's a sexier [TS]

00:43:11   if it's for if it's a jeopardy and not [TS]

00:43:13   double jeopardy then you will be allowed [TS]

00:43:15   to rephrase like that so I always are [TS]

00:43:17   six it's a condition that yet [TS]

00:43:19   yeah you do every question was simply [TS]

00:43:22   that so you're prepared and and and [TS]

00:43:24   that's good now Andy I know you as i'm [TS]

00:43:28   actually many people I know are big fan [TS]

00:43:29   of another reality competition show [TS]

00:43:31   which is the amazing race and i think [TS]

00:43:33   one of the things that reasons that the [TS]

00:43:34   amazing race holds up better than [TS]

00:43:36   survivor now and I say that that pains [TS]

00:43:38   me to say that because I've always liked [TS]

00:43:40   the amazing race but i really really [TS]

00:43:42   love survivor for a long time but [TS]

00:43:44   survivor got worn out like i said [TS]

00:43:46   because of this whole strategy overload [TS]

00:43:48   and the Amazing Race you know there [TS]

00:43:50   isn't that much and they've tried a [TS]

00:43:53   little bit there isn't that much of a of [TS]

00:43:55   a [TS]

00:43:55   uh an inter interpersonal interaction [TS]

00:43:58   tested gameplay there are more focused [TS]

00:44:00   in jeopardy terms on pressing the button [TS]

00:44:03   and knowing the answer not like you know [TS]

00:44:05   putting a banana peel on the you know [TS]

00:44:08   the person next to them so that they [TS]

00:44:09   slipped and fallen Alex last them right [TS]

00:44:11   i mean it's much more straightforward [TS]

00:44:13   than that I think that's why it's [TS]

00:44:14   replayable in a way that survivor isn't [TS]

00:44:16   yeah there's no there there to there two [TS]

00:44:19   elements in this is the album hope [TS]

00:44:21   they're two elements to make it great [TS]

00:44:23   and one of them is that you can I don't [TS]

00:44:25   like about survivors that starting with [TS]

00:44:27   season three pretty much by episode 30 [TS]

00:44:30   ok there's six people that are in team [TS]

00:44:32   boo [TS]

00:44:33   the other one is already making [TS]

00:44:34   alliances the house yeah it's like so [TS]

00:44:36   for the next ten just counted as [TS]

00:44:38   e-exactly until we get down to three and [TS]

00:44:41   the best is boring [TS]

00:44:42   whereas on amazing race there is no way [TS]

00:44:45   to form on effective alliances there are [TS]

00:44:48   specific rules that says that you can't [TS]

00:44:50   if if there are eight back if they're [TS]

00:44:52   eight tools setup for this challenge you [TS]

00:44:54   can't touch anybody else inspector tools [TS]

00:44:56   or else you'll get they'll get [TS]

00:44:57   eliminated the only the only season was [TS]

00:45:00   ever really awful was when they actually [TS]

00:45:01   had a case when the teams from Survivor [TS]

00:45:04   about bought Johnny boston or Boston Rob [TS]

00:45:06   whatever and so Boston Rob so that was [TS]

00:45:09   the only time that any team ever managed [TS]

00:45:11   to successfully like interfere with [TS]

00:45:13   another team but but the others but the [TS]

00:45:15   other thing is that the producers can't [TS]

00:45:17   do it really can't control the outcome [TS]

00:45:18   at all right because even if it is great [TS]

00:45:21   favor i always i always mention this [TS]

00:45:23   because it is the signature of why this [TS]

00:45:24   is such a great show [TS]

00:45:25   they started off with the first it was [TS]

00:45:28   the first season after 911 and you're [TS]

00:45:31   really imagine that all my god this is a [TS]

00:45:33   this is a show that's all about going [TS]

00:45:35   from airport to airport to airport and [TS]

00:45:37   now they have to do it with increased [TS]

00:45:39   security how's it going to risk of work [TS]

00:45:41   and you could tell the producers like [TS]

00:45:42   you know what we're gonna have two teams [TS]

00:45:44   of two teams of muslim muslim [TS]

00:45:45   contestants one of which are designed [TS]

00:45:47   that i'm totally totally ignorant of how [TS]

00:45:50   people deserve that faith but there are [TS]

00:45:52   some people who are reflected better [TS]

00:45:54   word like a mark devout and so they they [TS]

00:45:58   they wear the clothing is supposed to [TS]

00:46:00   where they have the facial hair supposed [TS]

00:46:01   to where they pray the time supposed to [TS]

00:46:02   pray and one of these teams was one of [TS]

00:46:04   these teams are going to go through the [TS]

00:46:05   world a time when Muslims and Muslims [TS]

00:46:08   are probably [TS]

00:46:09   to be the most scrutinized and the most [TS]

00:46:11   abused people in any in any non-muslim [TS]

00:46:13   country and the first episode both of [TS]

00:46:17   those teams got eliminated and so that's [TS]

00:46:20   what tells you that it's ok for the [TS]

00:46:22   producers to think they're going to set [TS]

00:46:23   something up but all that has to happen [TS]

00:46:25   is for someone to get a cab with a cab [TS]

00:46:27   driver does not know how to get to the [TS]

00:46:29   place that that person is asked for or [TS]

00:46:31   someone leaves their passport behind or [TS]

00:46:33   someone for someone decides i'll just [TS]

00:46:35   leave my shoes here i'm sure that the [TS]

00:46:36   producers will like collected for me [TS]

00:46:38   than the producers don't collect them [TS]

00:46:39   through the rest of the thing barefoot [TS]

00:46:40   it's it that's fine but it'sit's I don't [TS]

00:46:43   think that only survivors bad as big [TS]

00:46:44   brother but haven't seen you in recent [TS]

00:46:46   years they've done things like oh well [TS]

00:46:48   you were voted off but you found the [TS]

00:46:49   secret Idol that you follow the clue [TS]

00:46:52   that only you can access to i will say [TS]

00:46:55   this about survivors they they because [TS]

00:46:57   they are subject to some of the same [TS]

00:46:59   rules this jeopardy [TS]

00:47:00   they have to set these these a twist in [TS]

00:47:03   advance and that's again part of the [TS]

00:47:05   problem is that they say well what if [TS]

00:47:06   there was a an immunity idol and there [TS]

00:47:08   was a you know and and it-it-it you do [TS]

00:47:11   it to make things the storyline the [TS]

00:47:13   varied from season to season but it [TS]

00:47:16   actually isn't that much it's sort of [TS]

00:47:18   cheapens it and and the variation in the [TS]

00:47:22   amazing race is just the randomness of [TS]

00:47:24   the act and because that show is [TS]

00:47:26   structured that way it you never know [TS]

00:47:27   what's gonna happen [TS]

00:47:28   that's what got to be the problem with [TS]

00:47:30   survivor for me i think i only got [TS]

00:47:31   through maybe three or four series of [TS]

00:47:33   that as well and the reason was [TS]

00:47:35   there's really only so much you can do [TS]

00:47:37   to shake it up and then the rules [TS]

00:47:38   yeah remain the same and once they were [TS]

00:47:40   determined by richard hatch in the first [TS]

00:47:42   season he figured it out [TS]

00:47:44   he did and then master i mean i would [TS]

00:47:46   say bastard bye-bye rotten Boston Rob [TS]

00:47:48   was made a wife who perfected it and [TS]

00:47:51   then it was just this that same game [TS]

00:47:52   over and over again i watched a project [TS]

00:47:54   runway the first few seasons of project [TS]

00:47:56   runway which i think is five seasons and [TS]

00:47:58   I quite liked it because of my graphic [TS]

00:48:00   design back when I thought it was [TS]

00:48:01   actually a valid way to challenge people [TS]

00:48:03   and explore aesthetics in the middle of [TS]

00:48:05   this sort of game show sort of thing to [TS]

00:48:07   and was funny is the first season of [TS]

00:48:08   Project Runway everybody was playing it [TS]

00:48:11   like you know it's the design [TS]

00:48:13   competition we've done this before and [TS]

00:48:14   there's one woman who played like [TS]

00:48:15   survivor and it was weird is how you [TS]

00:48:18   watch her do things and scheme and [TS]

00:48:20   whatever [TS]

00:48:20   and she ultimately I don't win but she [TS]

00:48:23   was one of the four three finalists i [TS]

00:48:24   think at Fashion Week and it was the [TS]

00:48:26   whole thing was bizarre cause you're [TS]

00:48:28   like this woman doesn't get it anyway [TS]

00:48:30   they brought her back to their like hey [TS]

00:48:31   let's contact about how the season went [TS]

00:48:32   thing she was still like that one this [TS]

00:48:34   big but you're like you're on a [TS]

00:48:35   different show [TS]

00:48:36   yeah you're on the wrong you think you [TS]

00:48:38   won but what you do is you showed that [TS]

00:48:40   like these strategies don't really work [TS]

00:48:42   she was actually very good at what she [TS]

00:48:44   did she was a seamstress shiso dresses [TS]

00:48:47   all the time and just like one survived [TS]

00:48:49   oh my god on Survivor you need to make [TS]

00:48:52   fire on the second season of Project [TS]

00:48:55   Runway people arrived within the third [TS]

00:48:57   and the fourth with no hand sewing [TS]

00:48:59   skills so she had great skills and she [TS]

00:49:01   attributed it to playing the game sort [TS]

00:49:03   of the hatchway the thing that I always [TS]

00:49:05   thought was kind of interesting to [TS]

00:49:07   ruminate about with survivor was what if [TS]

00:49:10   Richard Hatch had played that first game [TS]

00:49:11   a completely different way [TS]

00:49:13   would everybody still model themselves [TS]

00:49:15   after that but that's what I'm thinking [TS]

00:49:17   you know i mean he he chose to be a [TS]

00:49:18   conniving guy who who formed alliances [TS]

00:49:20   and didn't mind backstabbing whereas [TS]

00:49:23   pretty much everybody else in that first [TS]

00:49:24   season was just kind of two wandering [TS]

00:49:26   around the island failing to make fire [TS]

00:49:27   and stabbing themselves in the foot with [TS]

00:49:29   spears and that kind of thing I haven't [TS]

00:49:31   watched haven't watch more of them i can [TS]

00:49:32   tell you that there were there did [TS]

00:49:33   emerge a couple other winner profiles [TS]

00:49:36   the the kind of under there was one in [TS]

00:49:39   four separate our who won one year and [TS]

00:49:41   she was gone under the radar and and [TS]

00:49:43   several other winners have come under [TS]

00:49:44   that method which is that they they they [TS]

00:49:47   lay low [TS]

00:49:48   they are a a constant sort of they're [TS]

00:49:51   not much of a threat or perceived as [TS]

00:49:53   much of a threat right but they're [TS]

00:49:54   always they're always faithful [TS]

00:49:56   they work hard they keep that you know [TS]

00:49:58   they keep you do not perceive as one of [TS]

00:50:00   the leaders so they're not perceived as [TS]

00:50:01   one of the enemies by the other team so [TS]

00:50:02   when they merge together right and that [TS]

00:50:04   was a winning strategy tube and I do [TS]

00:50:07   wonder if people notice the hatch thing [TS]

00:50:09   and and and but over the course of like [TS]

00:50:12   10 or 15 seasons of Survivor turns out [TS]

00:50:14   they're sort of two or three modes that [TS]

00:50:16   might work and that was always the thing [TS]

00:50:18   that I liked about survivor that kept me [TS]

00:50:20   watching for a long time was that it was [TS]

00:50:22   a complex enough game that I kept trying [TS]

00:50:23   to think of what you know my wife and I [TS]

00:50:25   would watch an episode and then we would [TS]

00:50:27   spend 30 minutes talking about the [TS]

00:50:28   episode not about like oh can you [TS]

00:50:30   believe what she said [TS]

00:50:32   not that it was like what would you do [TS]

00:50:33   in that city [TS]

00:50:34   malaysian what's the right play there [TS]

00:50:36   how do you approach that much that [TS]

00:50:37   they're not very many TV shows that will [TS]

00:50:39   make me after every episode spent half [TS]

00:50:42   an hour trying to debate we just saw and [TS]

00:50:44   whether it's been that whatever its best [TS]

00:50:46   survivor was that it's just that after a [TS]

00:50:48   while it became so ridiculously [TS]

00:50:49   convoluted that there was there was no [TS]

00:50:51   point in Indiana and there's just only [TS]

00:50:54   so much you can do to shake up that [TS]

00:50:55   formula where is in the amazing race it [TS]

00:50:58   before world is complicated by design i [TS]

00:51:00   mean there's nothing you can do to avoid [TS]

00:51:01   things being shaken up at every turn [TS]

00:51:03   when you're dealing with travel and TSA [TS]

00:51:06   agents and you noticed that the vagaries [TS]

00:51:09   of getting on a bus and finding your way [TS]

00:51:11   to various places or bad cab driver also [TS]

00:51:13   you can't pretend to be someone that [TS]

00:51:15   you're not so if you're going to say [TS]

00:51:16   here's the person to portray myself as [TS]

00:51:18   that will have to break down after about [TS]

00:51:20   the second episode because you're too [TS]

00:51:22   tired you're too stressed out that you [TS]

00:51:24   have not had a chance to breathe and [TS]

00:51:25   that's why the the signature when the [TS]

00:51:28   other signature features is the episode [TS]

00:51:30   number one they have like the the full [TS]

00:51:32   30 second profile of each team you have [TS]

00:51:34   the the hippie guy you know so you know [TS]

00:51:36   I teach transcendental yoga and I think [TS]

00:51:39   that's because i have that ability to [TS]

00:51:41   connect with people by absolutely [TS]

00:51:43   all right you son of a panic non-english [TS]

00:51:45   speaking again yet you're gonna take us [TS]

00:51:47   to the top 10 factor I'm like okay this [TS]

00:51:51   is anyone to call them like i was [TS]

00:51:53   thinking is you're talking about this at [TS]

00:51:55   like any wonderful if there were shows [TS]

00:51:57   that were you had the crunchy earthy [TS]

00:52:00   crunchy thing of of showing how [TS]

00:52:02   communities work together and realize [TS]

00:52:04   there are so shows like that i watch the [TS]

00:52:05   one [TS]

00:52:06   several years ago I can't find the name [TS]

00:52:08   of eights it was a i might in PBS but it [TS]

00:52:11   was it was a high-minded as people were [TS]

00:52:13   living as if they want a colony and they [TS]

00:52:15   had to produce returned by the year and [TS]

00:52:17   so yeah I should've been a few a few of [TS]

00:52:20   those like 18 eighteen hundred house and [TS]

00:52:22   it was like the 1600 settings because [TS]

00:52:25   there was in the head of negotiate with [TS]

00:52:26   local first peoples and then at some [TS]

00:52:29   point at the end of the show hit the end [TS]

00:52:31   of the show the you know the the [TS]

00:52:32   colonial governor whoever was comes over [TS]

00:52:34   the counter was it was like a company [TS]

00:52:35   like the like a trading company [TS]

00:52:36   organization they came over this ever [TS]

00:52:39   broken your charter because you guys [TS]

00:52:40   didn't do well enough my friend [TS]

00:52:42   there's a front frontier house colonial [TS]

00:52:44   house and met [TS]

00:52:44   the manor house i think it was this was [TS]

00:52:46   a house they are actually living in sort [TS]

00:52:49   of a village but whatever it was it was [TS]

00:52:51   I thought that actually came closest to [TS]

00:52:52   saying like nobody wasn't an individual [TS]

00:52:55   competition and I know there's been [TS]

00:52:57   these in the UK Europe as well as is [TS]

00:52:59   that you have to work against social [TS]

00:53:00   experiment show yeah it's a little [TS]

00:53:02   different and it's not eliminate almost [TS]

00:53:04   like a documentary of a fake some fake [TS]

00:53:09   documentary it's like a documentary [TS]

00:53:10   reality experiment thing exactly like a [TS]

00:53:13   nonfiction but it's it's setup and yeah [TS]

00:53:17   that's very strange i I'm it's funny [TS]

00:53:19   when you mentioned Project Runway that [TS]

00:53:21   that uh my wife watch project runway for [TS]

00:53:24   a while and she was I think like you [TS]

00:53:26   frustrated by the fact that some people [TS]

00:53:28   really wanted to play it like survivor [TS]

00:53:30   and or or play it worse play it like the [TS]

00:53:33   the like the real world and in the end [TS]

00:53:36   and I believe that show changed [TS]

00:53:38   producers and they actually changed it [TS]

00:53:40   from a company that specialized in [TS]

00:53:42   competition programs to a producer that [TS]

00:53:45   specialized in you know reality TV [TS]

00:53:47   that's what experiences at which point [TS]

00:53:49   my wife said I'm never gonna watch that [TS]

00:53:51   show again because that they decided it [TS]

00:53:53   wasn't about the competition it was [TS]

00:53:54   about people being bitchy and I'm not [TS]

00:53:57   interested [TS]

00:53:57   honestly I'm just not interested in in [TS]

00:53:59   that kind of show i want to see people [TS]

00:54:00   not pretending to be archetypes but be [TS]

00:54:05   fairly real or you know a TV version of [TS]

00:54:08   their real self but people doing things [TS]

00:54:10   trying to outwit people or trying to [TS]

00:54:13   show off their talent and be forced to [TS]

00:54:15   be creative or put in extreme situations [TS]

00:54:16   like the amazing race these things these [TS]

00:54:19   things kind of interest me and it's you [TS]

00:54:22   know jeopardy they don't starve you and [TS]

00:54:24   and make you make fire but you know it's [TS]

00:54:27   late i'll give you access to the full [TS]

00:54:28   craft services table which as far as I'm [TS]

00:54:29   concerned about the same so it's a [TS]

00:54:31   gentler slightly but but still in the [TS]

00:54:33   end you know it it's a competition it's [TS]

00:54:36   a brute but it's a brutal it's brutal [TS]

00:54:38   Oh instance was selling it as a blow [TS]

00:54:40   dart gun they don't tell you that you to [TS]

00:54:42   land them contestant with you [TS]

00:54:44   situation uh and let me tell you that [TS]

00:54:47   shit that chit chat where you're [TS]

00:54:48   standing on your marks was fortunate to [TS]

00:54:50   the end that is is just as torturous as [TS]

00:54:53   one might imagine is just it is so [TS]

00:54:55   awkward well I just be two people and [TS]

00:54:57   that's great hey Alex how's that I'm out [TS]

00:54:59   of your old mustache like what the [TS]

00:55:01   bunion you keep it in a jar and your [TS]

00:55:03   medicine cabinet or what if it's [TS]

00:55:05   preserved also also if you had one [TS]

00:55:07   you're going to be using it to get [TS]

00:55:08   chemotherapy for your child oh that's [TS]

00:55:10   hey I is that a Red Sox annual peacock [TS]

00:55:14   with other credits over yet but the [TS]

00:55:17   other thing is it is a brutal [TS]

00:55:18   elimination competition they don't they [TS]

00:55:19   don't market or package every that way [TS]

00:55:22   it doesn't look that way of course from [TS]

00:55:24   the outside because people come and go [TS]

00:55:26   but you're rooting for you know you're [TS]

00:55:27   like I wish that person went over the [TS]

00:55:29   champion and they come back and some [TS]

00:55:30   people win for multiple days and some [TS]

00:55:32   win once but also one always wins [TS]

00:55:34   although technically by the way I didn't [TS]

00:55:36   realize this you can have a game in [TS]

00:55:38   which everyone loses which I did not [TS]

00:55:40   know if that happens in every under zero [TS]

00:55:43   everyone is I don't know if you have to [TS]

00:55:45   have at least you have to at least one [TS]

00:55:47   dollar to go to Final Jeopardy or you're [TS]

00:55:48   out before final jeopardy so it is [TS]

00:55:50   possible i don't think this has ever [TS]

00:55:52   happened that someone is one before [TS]

00:55:53   final jeopardy and could go and do [TS]

00:55:55   whatever they wanted to do but if all it [TS]

00:55:58   in Final Jeopardy all the contestants [TS]

00:56:00   have the same final dollar amount after [TS]

00:56:02   the questions over there all champions [TS]

00:56:05   two or three can tie for first place [TS]

00:56:06   second place they do you know who had [TS]

00:56:08   the most money at certain points in [TS]

00:56:10   someone's second someone's third but you [TS]

00:56:11   can tie for first and if you have zero [TS]

00:56:14   dollars in all three contestants zero [TS]

00:56:16   dollars will be back tomorrow with a [TS]

00:56:17   whole suite contains you guys I think in [TS]

00:56:20   a very very rare which is why they give [TS]

00:56:23   you betting advice so you don't wind up [TS]

00:56:25   with zero dollars so Glenn you are our [TS]

00:56:27   celebrity to us but i wanted to say one [TS]

00:56:30   of the things the other genre as a kid I [TS]

00:56:32   watched a lot of game shows and I [TS]

00:56:34   mention that you guys did too i mean [TS]

00:56:36   that we we brought up high rollers which [TS]

00:56:37   is not a not a favorite of mine and [TS]

00:56:39   there was like you know tic-tac dough [TS]

00:56:40   with the Dragon yeah was that it was a [TS]

00:56:43   bit of the picture everyone was that [TS]

00:56:45   text don't always ready was exactly what [TS]

00:56:48   it sounds like how it was tic-tac-toe [TS]

00:56:49   with the Dragon ease and about a win [TS]

00:56:51   loser win lose or draw with merkandi [TS]

00:56:53   yeah wild Joker's well with jack barry [TS]

00:56:56   right [TS]

00:56:57   you're a joker Elizabeth underwear my [TS]

00:57:00   favorite was always the ones with the [TS]

00:57:02   most obnoxiously garish set-pieces when [TS]

00:57:05   I was a kid like there was one in i-i've [TS]

00:57:08   always lay this out whenever we're [TS]

00:57:09   talking about game shows with somebody [TS]

00:57:10   and nobody ever remembers it but it was [TS]

00:57:13   a show where I don't remember how the [TS]

00:57:15   main round went but the bonus round had [TS]

00:57:18   all these plywood cutouts of various [TS]

00:57:20   monsters the show dollar and it was [TS]

00:57:22   called the gauntlet of villains not look [TS]

00:57:24   right and no the show the show was [TS]

00:57:26   called and this is probably the reason [TS]

00:57:28   nobody remembers it is because this is [TS]

00:57:29   probably the dumbest name in the history [TS]

00:57:30   of television [TS]

00:57:31   it was called you unaware of this show [TS]

00:57:36   ye glb I mean how could you come up with [TS]

00:57:38   the worst day in the holy hell this is a [TS]

00:57:41   great show it's called did you just burp [TS]

00:57:44   know it's called this is a very [TS]

00:57:46   complicated we usually give me answers [TS]

00:57:49   I'd like this is my crime game time you [TS]

00:57:52   in period was on from april of 79 to [TS]

00:57:55   make the ATM yeah that was when i [TS]

00:57:56   watched yeah oh yeah well so right i [TS]

00:58:00   mean that was that was at a time when [TS]

00:58:01   after the morning shows went off the air [TS]

00:58:03   there was like three solid hours of game [TS]

00:58:05   shows your kid home sick or over the [TS]

00:58:08   summer the prices [TS]

00:58:09   the price is right i mean i watch the [TS]

00:58:11   price is right and it was gone for an [TS]

00:58:13   hour I want to watch that I cannot [TS]

00:58:15   imagine how many hours I spent watching [TS]

00:58:17   Bob Barker and Barker's beauties give a [TS]

00:58:20   new car right i mean blow my god amount [TS]

00:58:24   of time lost watching people bid retail [TS]

00:58:28   prices on products i didn't understand [TS]

00:58:30   and this is probably why game shows are [TS]

00:58:32   kind of a dying breed because nowadays [TS]

00:58:34   meet up for me the reason that i got in [TS]

00:58:37   the game shows in the first place was [TS]

00:58:38   when you were kids sick at home or just [TS]

00:58:40   you know shirking your duties for the [TS]

00:58:43   summertime you know your TV options were [TS]

00:58:44   totally limited yet the blocking our [TS]

00:58:46   tunes in the morning and then you have [TS]

00:58:48   this massive yawning gulf between the [TS]

00:58:50   between that and the next block of [TS]

00:58:52   cartoons in the afternoon [TS]

00:58:54   yeah and and so there were the game [TS]

00:58:56   shows right after that and then there [TS]

00:58:58   was so popular soap operas in like [TS]

00:59:00   reruns of F Troop oh yeah and I'm [TS]

00:59:02   dialing for dollars and you kind of [TS]

00:59:04   learned pretty quickly as a kid you know [TS]

00:59:06   what ok the cartoons are over i can [TS]

00:59:08   either you know sit here in my bed [TS]

00:59:10   head and pretend to be sick for a little [TS]

00:59:12   while longer or i can see what this [TS]

00:59:14   thing is that's coming on and look at [TS]

00:59:15   all these flashing light bulbs and [TS]

00:59:17   poetic is some pretty big hair [TS]

00:59:19   let's see what this is about and and and [TS]

00:59:21   nowadays I mean you see you you're sick [TS]

00:59:23   at home and you've got probably a week's [TS]

00:59:26   worth of shows on your TiVo every TV [TS]

00:59:27   show ever made right [TS]

00:59:29   ya think I mean I got me everything [TS]

00:59:31   stuff at your fingertips you could if [TS]

00:59:32   you wanted to you could probably go back [TS]

00:59:33   and find not jeopardy but some other [TS]

00:59:35   game show episodes online to watch [TS]

00:59:38   not only that but also the these there's [TS]

00:59:40   so many formats of TV that were staples [TS]

00:59:42   for generations but now they're just so [TS]

00:59:44   played out you don't it's amazing that [TS]

00:59:46   is it it's amazing that Sarah Night Live [TS]

00:59:49   still does gameshow parodies not knowing [TS]

00:59:51   that there is probably no one underneath [TS]

00:59:52   the age of 64 room that is like current [TS]

00:59:55   and relative television there's there's [TS]

00:59:57   the there's jeopardy for and that's [TS]

00:59:57   the there's jeopardy for and that's [TS]

01:00:00   like sort of a really old trending show [TS]

01:00:01   it's amazing that the price is right [TS]

01:00:04   stayed on the air after Bob Barker we [TS]

01:00:06   thought that they're gonna they're gonna [TS]

01:00:07   bury that show with them i really think [TS]

01:00:09   that reality shows of generations past [TS]

01:00:11   were these game shows that this with [TS]

01:00:13   this is the opportunity to see normal [TS]

01:00:15   people who are trained Polish people and [TS]

01:00:17   the only way that the 30 years ago they [TS]

01:00:19   could conceive of putting like an [TS]

01:00:21   ordinary person on the air was too [TS]

01:00:22   let's have them try to like throw [TS]

01:00:24   ping-pong balls at their husband who is [TS]

01:00:26   wearing a duck costume right or you get [TS]

01:00:29   the the combination with well we'll make [TS]

01:00:31   them interesting by putting them on the [TS]

01:00:32   25,000 pyramid with a celebrity and the [TS]

01:00:35   celebrity will be able to interact with [TS]

01:00:38   them and and and and make it interesting [TS]

01:00:40   and I wanted to bring this up before [TS]

01:00:42   before we we finish which is the the [TS]

01:00:44   genre game show that I loved and that [TS]

01:00:46   I've actually appreciate even more now [TS]

01:00:47   as an adult and I and there have been a [TS]

01:00:49   few attempts I to bring this back in [TS]

01:00:52   some more reality based format but i [TS]

01:00:55   always loved the the celebrity panel [TS]

01:00:59   shows and MPs for me these zenith is [TS]

01:01:03   match game [TS]

01:01:04   yeah because than that because although [TS]

01:01:07   there were contestants that that was six [TS]

01:01:10   celebrities who often knew each other [TS]

01:01:13   and sometimes I I think knew each other [TS]

01:01:14   quite well and we're extremely drunk [TS]

01:01:17   yes six that nipsey Russell and Charles [TS]

01:01:21   Nelson Reilly and and Fanny wagon again [TS]

01:01:23   and Brett Somers no idea what these [TS]

01:01:26   people did but now that they're the ones [TS]

01:01:28   you're a celebrity is by virtue of the [TS]

01:01:29   fact there are actually I have a story [TS]

01:01:31   about that when Charles Nelson Reilly [TS]

01:01:32   was on The X Files I I practically had [TS]

01:01:35   an attack was like it's and and and what [TS]

01:01:38   it's like what do I know him from [TS]

01:01:39   nothing except the match game and yet i [TS]

01:01:41   was very excited [TS]

01:01:43   that's that's what that was incredible [TS]

01:01:44   for me though because you're Charles [TS]

01:01:45   Nelson Reilly you only know that he's a [TS]

01:01:47   celebrity because he's called the [TS]

01:01:48   celebrity on game shows but then like [TS]

01:01:51   you read a little bit about memory and [TS]

01:01:53   you realize that in the sixties he [TS]

01:01:55   originated roles in three of the most [TS]

01:01:57   incredible Broadway musicals that define [TS]

01:02:00   yeah when his victory fantastic actor [TS]

01:02:01   monster start right yeah the people the [TS]

01:02:04   people who we were celebrities that we [TS]

01:02:06   didn't know whether celebrities they [TS]

01:02:07   were all New York stars there or London [TS]

01:02:09   stars and when you know and you couldn't [TS]

01:02:12   see nothing [TS]

01:02:13   theater unless you went there but this [TS]

01:02:14   is true and Paul Lynde for me besides [TS]

01:02:16   he's in movies but also he was a [TS]

01:02:18   terrific stage performer and so is [TS]

01:02:20   presented on TV he's a celebrity it's [TS]

01:02:22   like what's he celebrating for well you [TS]

01:02:24   wouldn't know don't worry back and at [TS]

01:02:26   least for me those those two guys pol [TS]

01:02:28   and Charles Nelson Reilly were really my [TS]

01:02:29   first introduction to what it means the [TS]

01:02:32   TV to be unbelievably flaming liguei [TS]

01:02:35   there we call the flamboyant back then [TS]

01:02:39   and and I mean that's really the [TS]

01:02:41   normalization of gay people to me began [TS]

01:02:43   with Charles Nelson Reilly is little hat [TS]

01:02:45   and scarf [TS]

01:02:46   oh yeah I i think that i would love to [TS]

01:02:50   read a serious article about that we're [TS]

01:02:52   in in decades in which if you were gay [TS]

01:02:55   you the last thing you would want to [TS]

01:02:57   know what is for anybody to know about [TS]

01:02:59   it because you would not be employed you [TS]

01:03:01   would be attacked in the streets that's [TS]

01:03:03   how bad things were in the seventies and [TS]

01:03:04   yet entertainment said it's ok for [TS]

01:03:07   pollen to be that flaming it's okay for [TS]

01:03:09   girls are probably be what was the rule [TS]

01:03:11   that said that so long as you are as [TS]

01:03:13   long as you have a cocktail glass here [TS]

01:03:14   and ask and a scarf around your neck [TS]

01:03:17   it's it's okay you're a harmless gay [TS]

01:03:20   person you're clapping long as you're [TS]

01:03:22   drunk [TS]

01:03:23   I suspect they thought and they were [TS]

01:03:24   probably right that most of Middle [TS]

01:03:26   America with weed and think oh he's [TS]

01:03:28   quirky you know they wouldn't recognize [TS]

01:03:30   that if you Charles Nelson Reilly [TS]

01:03:31   married married Brett's summers Liberace [TS]

01:03:34   is so dedicated to his music I assume [TS]

01:03:37   the Charles and Brandt are married they [TS]

01:03:38   always talk in their little caddy toward [TS]

01:03:39   each other but thank you maybe something [TS]

01:03:41   had a nice married couple [TS]

01:03:43   what we Brett Somers no I have no idea [TS]

01:03:45   what she was known for marriage equality [TS]

01:03:47   nothing extra America Jack click when [TS]

01:03:49   she was on the odd couple yeah she was a [TS]

01:03:51   bad rap singles she was am a serious [TS]

01:03:54   oh she's a dramatic performer she was [TS]

01:03:56   again an activity statements wikipedia [TS]

01:03:58   of talking there is no Glenn but she was [TS]

01:04:00   she with Oscars ex-wife blanche on the [TS]

01:04:03   argument [TS]

01:04:04   sure I remember richard Dawson from from [TS]

01:04:07   match game 2 and nipsey Russell of [TS]

01:04:09   course he would have his strange poet [TS]

01:04:10   and Richard was the one they would [TS]

01:04:11   always go to for the bonus game because [TS]

01:04:13   he was the one who had his head screwed [TS]

01:04:14   on straight he actually wasn't drunk or [TS]

01:04:16   he can hold this lead was gonna say yes [TS]

01:04:18   here at any level [TS]

01:04:18   yeah it could I too was a huge fan of [TS]

01:04:22   the panel shows largely because I ask a [TS]

01:04:24   man for years engineers seen reiber i [TS]

01:04:26   agree with you that that was the scene [TS]

01:04:28   of the panel show and then I then I had [TS]

01:04:31   a daughter in 2003 I first child and she [TS]

01:04:35   was not an easy sleeper and so for the [TS]

01:04:39   first couple of weeks of her existence [TS]

01:04:41   she had to be held for most of the night [TS]

01:04:42   and you could set her down for maybe 30 [TS]

01:04:44   seconds before the horrible screaming [TS]

01:04:46   this time bring the plaster off of the [TS]

01:04:48   walls [TS]

01:04:48   good times so yes a good till that time [TS]

01:04:52   was spent and yeah it was spent with me [TS]

01:04:55   sitting on the couch with my infant [TS]

01:04:57   daughter tucked in my arm and I mean [TS]

01:05:00   they were probably quite a few things [TS]

01:05:01   that I would rather be watching but you [TS]

01:05:03   never know you know if you're watching [TS]

01:05:04   terminator on cinemax or something that [TS]

01:05:07   you know there's gonna be a loud [TS]

01:05:09   explosion in the child wakes up and [TS]

01:05:10   that's pretty much game over right there [TS]

01:05:12   so I found late into the night the game [TS]

01:05:18   show networks black-and-white overnight [TS]

01:05:20   huh which they were doing on time and [TS]

01:05:23   maybe they still do where they would [TS]

01:05:25   show basically fifties game shows all [TS]

01:05:28   black and white and it was usually to [TS]

01:05:30   tell the truth I was my audiences what [TS]

01:05:34   I've got a secret [TS]

01:05:35   yeah and-and-and I figured those you [TS]

01:05:38   know it was basically just people [TS]

01:05:40   talking and kept it a fairly low volume [TS]

01:05:42   it was more or less like being in the [TS]

01:05:43   womb yet [TS]

01:05:45   Bill Collins house yeah so yeah [TS]

01:05:48   Allen Ludden and cocoa and will help you [TS]

01:05:51   yeah but the thing that struck me about [TS]

01:05:53   those panel shows is that the panelists [TS]

01:05:56   on the shows were brilliantly witty [TS]

01:05:58   I mean they weren't just the kind of you [TS]

01:06:01   know sort of humorous gutter with that [TS]

01:06:04   that Brett Somers would throw out i mean [TS]

01:06:06   they were just watch our shows are [TS]

01:06:08   fighting words that you say a word [TS]

01:06:10   against that summers I think she would [TS]

01:06:12   be happy to be rude to be referred to as [TS]

01:06:14   a gutter with yeah actually it seems [TS]

01:06:17   right up her alley [TS]

01:06:18   but he liked bill Cullen I felt madly in [TS]

01:06:21   love with bill Cullen during that during [TS]

01:06:23   those couple of weeks although some of [TS]

01:06:24   that I boobs [TS]

01:06:25   it was a very emotional period yeah [TS]

01:06:27   there's not a whole lot of sleep a lot [TS]

01:06:28   of hormones going on here but but yeah I [TS]

01:06:30   mean that bill Cullen Dorothy Kilgallon [TS]

01:06:33   who I guess died mysteriously some years [TS]

01:06:36   later under mysterious circumstances [TS]

01:06:38   bennett cerf betsy palmer who was later [TS]

01:06:42   on friday the 13 you find out like what [TS]

01:06:46   they're what that why they're famous [TS]

01:06:47   right and even Hugh Hefner a couple of [TS]

01:06:49   times makes an appearance so well this [TS]

01:06:50   one is the publisher of a newspaper this [TS]

01:06:52   one like wasn't not not a Pulitzer Prize [TS]

01:06:55   winner but he was a finalist for the [TS]

01:06:57   Pulitzer Prize for his third book of [TS]

01:06:58   poetry right but yeah I mean I became [TS]

01:07:01   very very sort of weirdly nostalgic for [TS]

01:07:04   a time that I never knew when when that [TS]

01:07:06   kind of thing would play on television I [TS]

01:07:07   mean they were saying that they be [TS]

01:07:09   snappy rejoinders were smart and they [TS]

01:07:11   were based in some kind of you know it [TS]

01:07:13   wasn't just boobs or Whoopi or you know [TS]

01:07:16   whatever it was it was just a bunch of [TS]

01:07:18   intelligent people having a conversation [TS]

01:07:20   and maybe something that's coming back [TS]

01:07:22   now at the podcast casting there you go [TS]

01:07:24   we are the new matchday we are the new [TS]

01:07:27   we that's it that we have our solution [TS]

01:07:29   right now but you're right he like I'm [TS]

01:07:31   still the nipsey Russell side of the [TS]

01:07:32   fence there but you guys are pretty [TS]

01:07:34   smart [TS]

01:07:36   I think I I think I I think you got [TS]

01:07:38   something interesting that this is a I [TS]

01:07:41   wish that that that kind of thing would [TS]

01:07:44   come back we're was there is a premise [TS]

01:07:45   you can hang on there's some [TS]

01:07:47   entertainment and there's really no [TS]

01:07:49   reason for them to be there but the [TS]

01:07:50   reality is they're there because they're [TS]

01:07:53   interesting people who are going to say [TS]

01:07:55   and do interesting things and you watch [TS]

01:07:57   because of the of the people you watch [TS]

01:08:00   because of the gas and the format is [TS]

01:08:02   just kind of there to move to show along [TS]

01:08:04   and there's something to be said to that [TS]

01:08:06   and i would love to see I don't know [TS]

01:08:07   what the modern equivalent of that is [TS]

01:08:09   maybe it is a podcast maybe it's [TS]

01:08:11   something lightweight I mean wait wait [TS]

01:08:12   don't tell me I'm p on NPR is a little [TS]

01:08:16   bit like that in a sense that the you [TS]

01:08:17   know the people are interesting but it's [TS]

01:08:19   still you know a little too much game [TS]

01:08:21   show and not enough conversation so I [TS]

01:08:24   don't know it's true i will tell you one [TS]

01:08:27   final thought if you like a short one [TS]

01:08:29   please [TS]

01:08:30   and I still here always [TS]

01:08:31   search in a formal question what is I'll [TS]

01:08:34   take Willy Tyler and Lester for the [TS]

01:08:35   block this is about [TS]

01:08:38   Circle Square about money you know that [TS]

01:08:42   you're looking at money always making [TS]

01:08:43   your wagering whatever the the game goes [TS]

01:08:46   too fast and is your too wrapped up in [TS]

01:08:49   it i mean watch the game you see how [TS]

01:08:51   fast was it the average is a according [TS]

01:08:53   to one source i read is 12 seconds from [TS]

01:08:56   question question in jeopardy and so [TS]

01:08:58   you're in if you're playing it well [TS]

01:09:00   which I did my first two games i believe [TS]

01:09:02   I in a fugue state you know you're doing [TS]

01:09:05   everything you can to manipulate this [TS]

01:09:07   buzzer to watch or listen to actually [TS]

01:09:09   include your brain is working [TS]

01:09:10   there's display you can see up into the [TS]

01:09:12   left of the board that has all three [TS]

01:09:13   contestants money in the order that [TS]

01:09:14   you're standing left to right the [TS]

01:09:16   current balance so in the first game i [TS]

01:09:18   played in the first party for commercial [TS]

01:09:21   I don't know it's five minutes long you [TS]

01:09:22   have to go through an average of about [TS]

01:09:23   fifteen clues that period i had $64 one [TS]

01:09:28   of the people i think had zero and one [TS]

01:09:29   negative 200 I had no idea i knew i was [TS]

01:09:31   answering stuff I knew they weren't or [TS]

01:09:33   were but it was just like wow okay what [TS]

01:09:35   just happened there so that the money is [TS]

01:09:38   symbolic in a way that you know it's [TS]

01:09:40   often funny like when you're dealing [TS]

01:09:41   with money but you can't think about it [TS]

01:09:43   as money it's a it it doesn't make any [TS]

01:09:45   sense as money you're not just buying [TS]

01:09:46   and selling goods points and then at the [TS]

01:09:48   end they're like okay you get so this is [TS]

01:09:51   not a well-known it's not a secret but [TS]

01:09:52   jeopardy awards the winner or winners if [TS]

01:09:56   there are multiple champions gets the [TS]

01:09:57   cash amount that's on the screen at the [TS]

01:09:59   end of Final Jeopardy the second-place [TS]

01:10:01   finisher gets $2,000 the third-place [TS]

01:10:04   finisher gets one thousand dollars and [TS]

01:10:05   you get that regardless of whether [TS]

01:10:07   you've won previous games always and a [TS]

01:10:09   lifetime supply of Turtle Wax [TS]

01:10:11   yeah I fear the box that I believe that [TS]

01:10:13   are going to show up my house soon so [TS]

01:10:15   the butt but so while you're playing the [TS]

01:10:17   games you know you know when so you know [TS]

01:10:19   your expenses you have to pay all your [TS]

01:10:20   expenses to get there and and you know [TS]

01:10:23   your expenses will be covered unless you [TS]

01:10:24   booked some crazy hotel whatever so you [TS]

01:10:26   know you're not going to come out behind [TS]

01:10:27   on in dollars but still you can't you're [TS]

01:10:30   not there's no time to think about money [TS]

01:10:32   you need to do something numeric and at [TS]

01:10:34   the end of its like I literally had no [TS]

01:10:37   idea how much I'd one on these two [TS]

01:10:39   programs until they're like here's a [TS]

01:10:40   piece of paper you signed says what you [TS]

01:10:42   want to look at 100 k so it's great on [TS]

01:10:45   trying to be funny about it's really [TS]

01:10:46   nice to win some money substantial money [TS]

01:10:48   for playing in for her to 20-minute junk [TS]

01:10:52   so far uh but you know it's still it's [TS]

01:10:54   not it's from the outside it looks like [TS]

01:10:58   money is how the game runs in from the [TS]

01:10:59   inside there's no there's just no time [TS]

01:11:01   for that [TS]

01:11:02   so at at a macro expo for a few years [TS]

01:11:05   that there was an on-stage game show [TS]

01:11:06   that i was on and I even though no money [TS]

01:11:11   changed hands in that in that thing and [TS]

01:11:12   it was just for fun I've got to say the [TS]

01:11:14   the audience starts to applaud and the [TS]

01:11:17   lights go up and you're being asked [TS]

01:11:20   questions and to solve problems and do [TS]

01:11:23   you know tricks with the computer and [TS]

01:11:25   answer trivia questions and I know [TS]

01:11:27   exactly what you're saying it is like a [TS]

01:11:29   fugue state it's just like you you [TS]

01:11:31   you're out of your body you don't know [TS]

01:11:33   what's happened and then it's over and [TS]

01:11:35   you're like what wait what happened what [TS]

01:11:37   just went on and that was just an Andy [TS]

01:11:40   you were on those game shows to right i [TS]

01:11:41   mean i don't know if you have the same [TS]

01:11:42   experience but it was like I was it's [TS]

01:11:44   adrenaline rush and other part of my [TS]

01:11:46   brain kicks in and i don't even know [TS]

01:11:48   what happened it was different for me [TS]

01:11:49   because at with each one of those [TS]

01:11:51   questions i had one of two I wanted to [TS]

01:11:53   meet one of two goals either a get the [TS]

01:11:55   right answer or be say something fun to [TS]

01:11:58   do something do something to be funny [TS]

01:11:59   when entertain people and so when I i [TS]

01:12:02   distinctly remember this is why i don't [TS]

01:12:03   think i'd be one of these people who [TS]

01:12:04   would not do well on Jeopardy I don't [TS]

01:12:06   mean that i'd lose I mean that they [TS]

01:12:08   wouldn't be able to use the tape because [TS]

01:12:10   the crisp crisp green said Chris Brian [TS]

01:12:13   wrote the last one that I was on and the [TS]

01:12:15   left the Final Jeopardy question was [TS]

01:12:18   that you had to like it was Christmas [TS]

01:12:20   birthday and using the computer in front [TS]

01:12:22   of using the macbook in front of you [TS]

01:12:23   there I've set up for you you have to [TS]

01:12:25   wish me happy birthday but you can't use [TS]

01:12:26   email you can use this you can't use [TS]

01:12:28   that and the solution he was looking for [TS]

01:12:30   was that there is if you look into [TS]

01:12:33   address book there is an entry for Chris [TS]

01:12:35   spring there is actually an SMS number [TS]

01:12:36   you can use the seldom-used like SMS [TS]

01:12:39   feature son of a text is my ichat which [TS]

01:12:42   I did exactly that was gonna see but I i [TS]

01:12:45   technically beat the other being my team [TS]

01:12:48   technically beat everybody else because [TS]

01:12:50   is like that oh he did the he the the [TS]

01:12:53   way that he structured the question [TS]

01:12:54   it's okay for me to just simply go into [TS]

01:12:56   text that type the phrase happy birth [TS]

01:12:58   hey Chris highlighted the microphone [TS]

01:13:01   next speaker then select speak text and [TS]

01:13:04   then when Chris like was like oh well [TS]

01:13:06   that's not what i was looking for I'm [TS]

01:13:07   sorry that's incorrect answer i know [TS]

01:13:08   that i could have continued to work on [TS]

01:13:10   it but I thought it would be funnier [TS]

01:13:11   just to pretend that I was upset that [TS]

01:13:13   you weren't accepting my answer yes and [TS]

01:13:14   that's and that's why that and your [TS]

01:13:16   inability to control your blush response [TS]

01:13:19   are the reasons you have not been on [TS]

01:13:20   Jack that's right [TS]

01:13:21   if you cannot control you cannot that [TS]

01:13:25   will produce be like if you pass the [TS]

01:13:27   voigt-kampff test however you can sell [TS]

01:13:29   himself will that's what you that's why [TS]

01:13:32   you bring a change of clothes thats [TS]

01:13:33   wheel of fortune I'm afraid oh I was I [TS]

01:13:36   was amazed during like my the like when [TS]

01:13:39   I we went to a ballroom in like in the [TS]

01:13:41   park square building in in Boston and [TS]

01:13:43   like 200 people got window down to maybe [TS]

01:13:46   11 who passed the test we got to play [TS]

01:13:47   the fake game on camera and part of it i [TS]

01:13:51   was aware that you know every single at [TS]

01:13:53   this point everything that you're doing [TS]

01:13:55   is going to be observed by the producers [TS]

01:13:57   including producers who aren't actually [TS]

01:13:58   inside that room so the audition process [TS]

01:14:00   is on right now and so they want [TS]

01:14:03   everyone please I got an intern please [TS]

01:14:05   stand up and say who you are and why you [TS]

01:14:07   like to be on Jeopardy answer was like [TS]

01:14:09   hi I'm I'm joy some of my work and I [TS]

01:14:12   work for Raytheon and i'm an engineer [TS]

01:14:13   and I was a big fan of the show this one [TS]

01:14:15   guy I will never forget him because he [TS]

01:14:18   steps up angry [TS]

01:14:21   it says my name is Josh I'm a librarian [TS]

01:14:24   for Harvard and I've passed the exam [TS]

01:14:26   11-time that have never been selected [TS]

01:14:28   and you can tell that was like oh haha [TS]

01:14:30   isn't this a cool just like you bastards [TS]

01:14:32   and never you you bring my butt out here [TS]

01:14:34   you keep raising my hopes but I'm sure [TS]

01:14:37   that if I if I act angry and belligerent [TS]

01:14:39   in front of an audience of 10 you'll [TS]

01:14:41   pick me to pee in front of a million [TS]

01:14:42   people and I'm like okay it's got I [TS]

01:14:44   don't know and I don't have to be 10 [TS]

01:14:46   people instead of 11 people in my in my [TS]

01:14:49   audition in seattle they say this is [TS]

01:14:51   when they're winning system so just 21 [TS]

01:14:53   of us in groups of three and so forth [TS]

01:14:55   the very last person that they talked to [TS]

01:14:58   at the very last in the last simulated [TS]

01:15:00   game before they said okay thanks we'll [TS]

01:15:02   call you if we call you was a guy who I [TS]

01:15:04   swear to god he was a drifter he tests [TS]

01:15:05   well the guy was not always i don't want [TS]

01:15:08   him to think he looked a little shady i [TS]

01:15:09   was getting a little bit of this or [TS]

01:15:10   sling baby [TS]

01:15:11   parts unknown that's our first [TS]

01:15:15   contestant he's he's a drifter who lives [TS]

01:15:18   under overpass [TS]

01:15:19   it's so bad like I understand you want [TS]

01:15:21   speed on electric fence that's right I'm [TS]

01:15:24   a gnome rancher Alex ranch gnomes are [TS]

01:15:27   also little fairies uh also another [TS]

01:15:30   that's a handsome snake you've got [TS]

01:15:32   wrapped around your left antenna stock [TS]

01:15:34   there Alex it wasn't this guy was a [TS]

01:15:36   lower key but I could tell it placed him [TS]

01:15:38   last because they knew everyone was [TS]

01:15:41   going to leave the room and they're like [TS]

01:15:42   so what would you do if you don't ask [TS]

01:15:44   you about money on this is actually the [TS]

01:15:45   interview with Alexandra using every [TS]

01:15:47   extra money testing for Daenerys ask you [TS]

01:15:49   because they like to know people have an [TS]

01:15:51   interesting idea of what they're going [TS]

01:15:52   to do is sort of how to draw you out and [TS]

01:15:54   see what you say when you're confronted [TS]

01:15:55   with the notion of winning filthy lucre [TS]

01:15:57   and everything and so they asked this [TS]

01:15:58   guy everyone else been charming the [TS]

01:16:00   massage therapist and students and IT [TS]

01:16:02   people and people use a different kind [TS]

01:16:04   of IT background and then also people [TS]

01:16:06   involved in IT and computer program haha [TS]

01:16:08   and oh and we tried and they're just [TS]

01:16:10   guys like so what do you do it's like [TS]

01:16:11   our been unemployed can't get a job like [TS]

01:16:13   really so we do with the money [TS]

01:16:15   probably nothing you know it's like what [TS]

01:16:17   do you do I really watch tv watch [TS]

01:16:19   jeopardy you're like oh my god and so he [TS]

01:16:21   tests well clearly but yeah the audition [TS]

01:16:23   process necessary to filter a few people [TS]

01:16:26   out on that and spectrum and you they [TS]

01:16:28   missed you got I know I know wow I [TS]

01:16:32   didn't tell the stories I've ever heard [TS]

01:16:33   it's like so I got to the screening [TS]

01:16:34   process thank God very smart stay away [TS]

01:16:37   from the German tell the family we can't [TS]

01:16:39   we can't let you go without talking [TS]

01:16:41   about the buzzer [TS]

01:16:42   every time you read a poem from Germany [TS]

01:16:44   is like here's how to use the buzzer you [TS]

01:16:46   after fleeing after you have to be can't [TS]

01:16:48   fool the buzzer [TS]

01:16:49   this is the buzzer is the buzzer is the [TS]

01:16:51   key to so right i mean you have to have [TS]

01:16:53   actual knowledge but as I've said and as [TS]

01:16:55   the contestants coordinators say this [TS]

01:16:56   the books written about it say that I [TS]

01:16:58   have now witnessed in person typically [TS]

01:17:00   from in a good round two or three people [TS]

01:17:04   on stage know every answer that's and so [TS]

01:17:06   if you saw it all becomes reflex and I [TS]

01:17:09   got some pretty good buzzer timing at [TS]

01:17:11   points you get into a rhythm there was a [TS]

01:17:12   blind contestant on Jeopardy few years [TS]

01:17:14   ago he didn't get any special cues [TS]

01:17:16   because he just new windows in the deal [TS]

01:17:19   is jeopardy is it's not unique among [TS]

01:17:21   quiz shows but because they talked about [TS]

01:17:24   it actually [TS]

01:17:24   they're describing the show at some [TS]

01:17:26   point while i was there they said it [TS]

01:17:28   would be really old johnny gilbert was [TS]

01:17:29   telling the audience is saying it would [TS]

01:17:30   be really difficult for people at home [TS]

01:17:32   if Alex didn't get through the question [TS]

01:17:34   if you read the clue and buzzed in the [TS]

01:17:37   people up on stage like these people [TS]

01:17:38   they can buzz in the thirst the question [TS]

01:17:40   of plant shop and they can buzz in a [TS]

01:17:42   tenth of a second would that be [TS]

01:17:43   interesting at home now so for good [TS]

01:17:44   television they structure the show alex [TS]

01:17:46   has to end it adds to that tension to [TS]

01:17:48   Alex was completely finished reading the [TS]

01:17:50   question and there's a person in my case [TS]

01:17:52   or in our case the guy named Matt Matt [TS]

01:17:55   we're sitting there he's got his finger [TS]

01:17:56   on top of button the instant Alex [TS]

01:17:58   finished speaking Matt watches and make [TS]

01:18:00   sure last syllable or group and Matt [TS]

01:18:04   hits the button to manual process on [TS]

01:18:06   both sides of the big display lights [TS]

01:18:09   light up on both sides huge light setup [TS]

01:18:10   and lights light up on your podium in [TS]

01:18:12   front of you indicating is acceptable [TS]

01:18:14   the lockout is off and you can rain if [TS]

01:18:16   you ring before lockout is off your [TS]

01:18:18   delayed by I think it's like two tenths [TS]

01:18:20   of a second or one-tenth of a second [TS]

01:18:21   it's very brief the system has sub [TS]

01:18:24   thousand seconds response time so you [TS]

01:18:27   can actually be one thousandth of a [TS]

01:18:29   second faster than someone else and [TS]

01:18:31   that's purposely designed that way and [TS]

01:18:33   if you play the game correctly and [TS]

01:18:34   sometimes I did [TS]

01:18:36   you're listening for Alex you're not [TS]

01:18:37   looking for the lights and you're here [TS]

01:18:38   and go route and you bring and your [TS]

01:18:39   bites go up in the blight slight bump in [TS]

01:18:41   front of you and you know that you can [TS]

01:18:42   answer and boom and sometimes as on [TS]

01:18:45   famous episode of Star Trek you don't [TS]

01:18:47   see the lights you don't know if there's [TS]

01:18:48   three lights are four lights it's hard [TS]

01:18:49   to know what you're seeing all you know [TS]

01:18:51   is you're Alex's voice and you bring in [TS]

01:18:53   and deliver the answer and you get on a [TS]

01:18:55   roll where you've got the timing of sort [TS]

01:18:56   of like he's about to wrap up and now i [TS]

01:18:58   press and and you throw off everybody [TS]

01:19:00   else when you get into a roll it really [TS]

01:19:02   shakes the other competitors in a way [TS]

01:19:03   that almost no the other because they [TS]

01:19:05   keep trying to ring and they can't they [TS]

01:19:06   can't they can't they get rattled and I [TS]

01:19:08   saw a little bit of that with some very [TS]

01:19:10   strong people i was playing against so [TS]

01:19:13   the buzzer is it's a nice solid metal [TS]

01:19:15   thing it actually reminds me a bit of [TS]

01:19:16   almost like a flash like a one of those [TS]

01:19:18   LED flashlights it carry around like a [TS]

01:19:20   tactical flashlight practically and and [TS]

01:19:23   it's got good action good action what [TS]

01:19:27   Ken Jennings said in his book by the way [TS]

01:19:29   is they didn't used to do as much [TS]

01:19:30   rehearsal before he started winning a [TS]

01:19:33   lot and somewhere in the middle of his [TS]

01:19:35   run [TS]

01:19:35   they're like okay we gotta rethink this [TS]

01:19:37   and [TS]

01:19:37   they had some big hiatuses while he was [TS]

01:19:39   winning a 74 shows so he come out he [TS]

01:19:41   came back a couple weeks and then they [TS]

01:19:42   had like a tournament they had some [TS]

01:19:44   other stuff there's actually a big break [TS]

01:19:46   during a couple places he comes back and [TS]

01:19:48   they changed out and we're trying to [TS]

01:19:50   swap the people who did the lockout [TS]

01:19:52   release button on the writing staff so [TS]

01:19:54   he couldn't predict who you know who is [TS]

01:19:55   going to do and they're also a little [TS]

01:19:56   more erratic weather the timing was [TS]

01:19:58   perfect and they also started getting [TS]

01:20:00   contestants much more rehearsal time [TS]

01:20:03   which I think reduces the odds that [TS]

01:20:05   anyone will be a multiple day champion [TS]

01:20:07   because the more rehearsal time you have [TS]

01:20:09   the more even the process the lesser are [TS]

01:20:11   I think when you look back through the j [TS]

01:20:13   archive site it shows how many times [TS]

01:20:15   people were champions you can see that [TS]

01:20:17   since the Jennings days there's very few [TS]

01:20:18   runs of multiple shows of more than you [TS]

01:20:21   know a couple or three or four whatever [TS]

01:20:23   there's very few five or more time [TS]

01:20:25   winners so clearly that helped him that [TS]

01:20:27   seems sort of odd to me because [TS]

01:20:28   certainly when he was on his run they [TS]

01:20:31   drew a lot of viewers waiting to see if [TS]

01:20:32   he was going to go down that day [TS]

01:20:33   yeah it's true the reviewers have one up [TS]

01:20:35   something like almost twenty-five [TS]

01:20:36   percent during his run and the show now [TS]

01:20:38   still has over nine million like daily [TS]

01:20:41   viewers like 25 million unique viewers [TS]

01:20:44   over a week so still has plenty of [TS]

01:20:45   viewers but it was getting I think i [TS]

01:20:47   mighta been twice that back when he is [TS]

01:20:49   strong what's going on stood to climb [TS]

01:20:50   quite a bit but I think there's a bit [TS]

01:20:52   like there's a fine line between [TS]

01:20:53   watching someone walk across the type of [TS]

01:20:56   wrote several times going man didn't [TS]

01:20:58   follow those times in like 10 it's never [TS]

01:20:59   came to walk across the paper up again [TS]

01:21:01   ok and other guys walk fast typer again [TS]

01:21:04   and again and again and again so i think [TS]

01:21:05   there's a there's a tension between them [TS]

01:21:07   wanting to not let people become so [TS]

01:21:10   successful they dominate the show which [TS]

01:21:12   is what happened with Ken he's the [TS]

01:21:15   nicest guy I've met him he lives in [TS]

01:21:17   Seattle man wish you happy like an ocean [TS]

01:21:19   i'm sorry i called him up I said you [TS]

01:21:21   know hey I'd love to you know if you [TS]

01:21:22   don't mind apparently he gets emails and [TS]

01:21:25   stuff from people was not that I mean [TS]

01:21:26   there's hundreds of people you're going [TS]

01:21:28   to show but after many of them seeking [TS]

01:21:29   out and I did and had a very nice car [TS]

01:21:32   with a very lovely fellow just as well [TS]

01:21:35   facing as we hope he's changed his life [TS]

01:21:37   so he can write full time it was done [TS]

01:21:39   very well some books he's got columns [TS]

01:21:40   and it's quite amusing on Twitter what [TS]

01:21:43   is right is funny guy and family man and [TS]

01:21:46   butt [TS]

01:21:47   you know he's low key he's actually like [TS]

01:21:50   a very low-key guy he's just bury is it [TS]

01:21:54   just turns out that all these abilities [TS]

01:21:56   are perfectly aligned with playing [TS]

01:21:58   jeopardy that is that is the thing that [TS]

01:22:00   he was a more individual a baby [TS]

01:22:02   it's weird but like his reflexes [TS]

01:22:04   knowledgebase he's not crazily trivial [TS]

01:22:06   he doesn't talk about trivia all the [TS]

01:22:07   time he just was the right person for [TS]

01:22:09   that game now here's one other piece of [TS]

01:22:12   information though you can never once [TS]

01:22:14   you've been a contestant less you [TS]

01:22:15   invited back for an invitation like a [TS]

01:22:17   championship you can never play a game [TS]

01:22:19   of jeopardy again [TS]

01:22:20   the show is called a jeopardy with alex [TS]

01:22:22   trebek if what if and when Alex retires [TS]

01:22:24   is the 29th season and a couple of heart [TS]

01:22:26   attacks he looked bad [TS]

01:22:28   oh my god alex trebek got to see look [TS]

01:22:31   good man [TS]

01:22:32   holy cow looks good up close to even [TS]

01:22:34   high-def when you're there with it looks [TS]

01:22:36   good clothes busy smell like [TS]

01:22:37   strawberries [TS]

01:22:38   I bet he smells like strawberries just [TS]

01:22:40   his skin he just did his home [TS]

01:22:42   wow thanks it's pretty neat something [TS]

01:22:44   special love between a contestant alex [TS]

01:22:47   is forbidden love [TS]

01:22:48   yeah but now you're you know once and [TS]

01:22:51   once you run ends you will have [TS]

01:22:52   graduated who knows all bets are off [TS]

01:22:55   literally [TS]

01:22:56   once you defeat which inevitably will [TS]

01:23:00   after seventy wins you'll be done some [TS]

01:23:02   point and something i will be defeated [TS]

01:23:03   but as of this moment you are raining [TS]

01:23:05   Napier's i am the reigning champion so i [TS]

01:23:07   gotta preserve this moment amber in time [TS]

01:23:09   thank you very much that's why we are [TS]

01:23:10   recording this podcast so Glenn [TS]

01:23:12   congratulations on your two victories [TS]

01:23:14   good luck with the rest of your jeopardy [TS]

01:23:15   run which is already reported but it's a [TS]

01:23:17   secret [TS]

01:23:18   I'm gonna take that with me when I go [TS]

01:23:19   back and back and back at times the game [TS]

01:23:21   excellence and thanks for doing this i [TS]

01:23:23   appreciate this i'm glad we could put [TS]

01:23:25   this in the time capsule uh you know [TS]

01:23:27   quickly as soon as you got back from [TS]

01:23:29   your jeopardy experience so that it will [TS]

01:23:32   be frozen in amber along with your [TS]

01:23:34   jeopardy experience and thought back out [TS]

01:23:35   with when people listen to this so thank [TS]

01:23:38   you thank you very much and it was great [TS]

01:23:40   to to hear your your story and also [TS]

01:23:43   joining me tonight with some other nice [TS]

01:23:46   game show moments and also wackiness [TS]

01:23:48   Steve lots [TS]

01:23:50   thank you very much for being here it [TS]

01:23:51   was good to have you back on its been a [TS]

01:23:53   little while [TS]

01:23:53   oh I'm sorry Jason the real steve lets [TS]

01:23:56   was in fact and Enoch 00 sort of thanks [TS]

01:24:00   but thanks for playing [TS]

01:24:01   sorry we'll send you a copy of the home [TS]

01:24:03   game Thank You the home game III look [TS]

01:24:05   forward to that and any and I can't [TS]

01:24:07   thank you very much i think we can agree [TS]

01:24:09   that you would be more likely to use [TS]

01:24:12   Andy not go then your wife however that [TS]

01:24:15   would not be incidental I think I'm [TS]

01:24:18   correct in saying to to the identity of [TS]

01:24:20   any not go so i think that's twenty [TS]

01:24:22   dollars more and to Dorothy Kilgallen [TS]

01:24:23   I'd like to phone a friend you have no [TS]

01:24:26   friends scams yeah what is a friend [TS]

01:24:30   that's no I'm really asking i'm not [TS]

01:24:33   answering the important question what is [TS]

01:24:35   a little lifeline here i did a little [TS]

01:24:37   until our next episode of the [TS]

01:24:39   incomparable and until our next game [TS]

01:24:41   show episodes we do those every now and [TS]

01:24:42   then I think and those are fun and Glenn [TS]

01:24:44   got lots of ideas when he was on [TS]

01:24:46   Jeopardy x4 ideas so it will do that and [TS]

01:24:48   that'll be using and I can be host to be [TS]

01:24:51   I can be alex trebek oh sorry to watch [TS]

01:24:56   jeopardy and see how gwen does on the [TS]

01:24:58   next episode please [TS]

01:24:59   until then though this is jason still [TS]

01:25:01   signing off for the uncomfortable [TS]

01:25:03   thanks for listening and have your pet [TS]

01:25:05   spayed or neutered [TS]