The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast episode 100 [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► well October atlantique well this is the [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► incomparable duh-duh-dunnnnn our first [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► contestant the master Otomo for a sec [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► come home with us the people's chorus or [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► the answer as a question [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► two-time jeopardy champion and raining [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► jeopardy champion in this corner no way [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► to segment the boxing metaphor [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► it's glenn fleischmann plan thank you [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► thank you i'm still in position one on [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► stage as you're in a state of grace we [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► speak this moment it's raining jeopardy [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► champion that's why we have you on the [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► income also joining me I'm your host [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► Jason L in this special game show [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► episode of the incomparable not the kind [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► where we do a game show we already did [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► that one where we talk about game shows [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► our next contestant from New England you [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► know him you love him and Enoch oh come [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► on down [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► sure thank you thank you Jason can I [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► just say hello to my wife Edna my son's [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► a Dinkley and Fort Ord and and a [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► kingston if you're still up daddy who [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► says goodnight you should be codependent [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► now I'm really excited about playing the [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► game Jason and in the center square he's [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► flamboyant but lovable it's steve Lutz [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► hello hello I'm trying to decide whether [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► I'm the whoopi goldberg center square or [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► the point out of London the all your [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► wallet your Paul NBA Holland pollen [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► pollen all the way but it's that's there [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► really is no good choice there is no no [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► no not OD fields brassiere [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► haha i can't believe i didn't start the [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► show by saying this podcast was so [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► boring they wants to show about blank [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► too mad birds out bumpin into it so [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► Glenn I mean jeez [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► this is all about the fact that Glenn [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► was on Jeopardy anyone [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► it's a little crazy it's a little crazy [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► ah twice the first one was a was a fluke [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► uh I'm so the shock so you may recall [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► that jeopardy tapes in advance so i had [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► to keep this quiet for like ten weeks [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► how did you manage that that's crazy [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► it's okay because the incomparable also [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► tapes in advance and we've been keeping [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► this podcast episode on ice for about 10 [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► years so intently 10 the magic of radio [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► broadcast radio is now been destroyed [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► thank you and a magical jeopardy because [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► now I know it's wrong I thought it was [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► broadcast live it's um it's actually now [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► here's an interesting thing so the way [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► jeopardy is shot so they actually shoot [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► it as a live show [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► it's essentially shot live and live to [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► tape as they say I think yeah if there's [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► a problem they stop it and they headed [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► out on the edit out little bits and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► pieces here to fit into a lot of length [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► but I hadn't thought of that aspect of [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► it because the gameplay that goes and [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► there's all this law about game shows [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► because that is the quiz show scandal [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► yeah and that's still I mean I cannot [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► tell you how many pieces of paper I [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► signed before going on the show I [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► there's an hour-and-a-half briefing in [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► the morning both you know each day you [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► hear it because the new crop of people [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► comes through and I there's just um [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► there's an enormous amount that still [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► harkens back to that corruption and the [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► gameshow industry today is still trying [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► to be scrupulously fair and Islam is [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► federally required to be a scrupulously [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► fair as they were in the wake of that [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► and there's so much and some of these [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► incredibly strange small things even [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► that that still are trying to make sure [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► people feel these games aren't fixed [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► that what happens [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► Israel and when you have something that [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► happens like Ken Jennings winning 274 [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► episodes in a row a few years ago on [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► Jeopardy people wonder you know is it a [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► setup whatever it's set in and I can [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► tell you from the inside they take it [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► all extremely seriously and they do [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► everything in their power to make sure [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► it's a level playing field and have [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► outside compliance people there as well [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► watching to make sure that nothing funny [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► is going on i always have that [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► disclaimer that says portions of this [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► program not affecting the outcome have [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► been added that so they want to keep his [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► light touch on as possible [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► so I'll get all the heavy breathing yeah [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► yeah we're breathing issues Glenn they [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► have great sound guys on the show let me [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► tell you that offer some numbers at you [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► so here's this is fascinating things [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► about me so jeopardy 29th season it's in [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► currently it is taped 6500 episodes [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► which is the staggering they shoot for [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► forty seven weeks of production a year a [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► hundred thousand people audition through [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► the online screening every year now they [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► switch to online screening they get at [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► three to four thousand people in person [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► to audition in cities all over this fair [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► land of ours and then they pick about [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► 400 people who actually come in and not [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► all of those people necessarily get in [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► the air if you have a long run like Ken [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► Jennings that knocks people out who [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► would be rotating in his place so you [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► can actually have you know 250 or 300 [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► people if there's a lot of streaks of [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► winners so it's this massive massive [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► enterprise to find a particular type of [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► person and then they only take a subset [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► of that particular type of person they [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► find because they can't take everybody [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► and you personally so far have crush the [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► dreams of four people four people [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► yeah I know it's pretty history's worst [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► monster ma'am include well well I guess [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► technically you you overthrew a reigning [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► champion so that wasn't so bad was [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► really no actually it's a little too i [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► was very lucky the person who beats on [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► wednesday night of this week I the woman [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► who was the seven-time champion was [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► beaten by someone else was in my group I [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► and then I be the person who beat her so [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► technically only overthrew Shiite IBT by [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► the one-time champion [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► alright that's good so you did really [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► only crushed three people streams [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► exactly it's really not quite as much as [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► I would have hoped but you know there's [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► still time [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► that's ok you know you got you could [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► keep on going you could be Ken Jennings [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► you could crush the dreams of thousands [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► more at this moment it's a shorter girls [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► game show cat but you never know [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you still haven't beaten deep blue yeah [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► that's right still out there [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► what is shall I compare thee to a [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► summers day I don't recall [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► schrödinger's cat box recall the box [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► well what happens is you when you look [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► at you you're uncertain whether there's [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► pool under the surface yeah until until [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► you look inside it's unclear whether [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► there's poo in the box both do need to [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► and not change the cat litter [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► excellent excellent point yeah wow how [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► did we get here so so glad it's strange [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► that we're at acting as if we haven't [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► seen this episode but again we taped the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► incomparable so far in advance that we [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► haven't actually seen these episodes so [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► tell us about the experience of you you [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► said you know you you manage somehow to [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► squeak through and be be chosen [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► there are many other people who qualify [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► for jeopardy and aren't chosen Andy Andy [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► I i was offered they said that it would [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► break too many hearts that they don't [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► have not catch anything going on [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► it killed their ratings have the same [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► guy weekend we got this gave me a lump [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► sum check of 300,000 dollars to go away [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► and pretend as though this audition ever [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► happened to do not don't ruin the show [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► have you deposited the check yet don't [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► oh no I i actually got them actually got [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► that money in tires so just it's just to [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► make sure that was untraceable [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► its internal and her wax and preset for [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► the next 90 winners here in New England [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► you know I'm get full of advil yeah well [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► so the the deal is I had dinner with a [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► friend when I was in Los Angeles and she [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► said jeopardy is a reality show and I [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► said what no it's oh it is a reality [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► show it's a very weird kind of reality [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► show but it is it's you know it's as [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► opposed to additional people you know if [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► you do survivor or The Great Race or all [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► of these other amazing dress but is it [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► was yes they must be Giants the Giants [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► but cooking show the big stitching show [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► and project runway it because he went on [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► this one show he's already being [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► condescending to other people and other [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► games shows its 60 miles only has done [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► to you class it's time to time ship what [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► is the great race alex new story I don't [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► answer any questions let me tell you [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► that what is desultory this unlicensed [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► knockoff ran ecuador for two seasons [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► before and shot down so so is reality [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► show it is they are they're all the [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► reality shows that try to heighten back [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► like essentially most reality shows are [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► looking at turmoil among personalities [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► and as tasks of some kind of completed [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► and tasks are presented and they're [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► supposed to stress people out the same [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► thing jeopardy is actually that which I [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► never thought of that way is I thought [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► of it as a competition and yesterday [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► other competitors was really how fast am [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I how quickly my house [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► Oh agile mi to make things happen but in [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► fact you know you are playing against [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► other people is not a nice elation and [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► you spend on a tape typically two days a [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► week in the tapes five shows a day so [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► there is an endurance contest aspect to [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► it to you have to you know be ready to [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► go at any moment because they pick you [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► randomly from a stack unless you unless [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► you win in return you don't know that [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► you're going to play the next game or [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► not you can be kept over for another day [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► you might have to come back in two weeks [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► depending on how it goes so you're sort [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► of in that state of anticipation and [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► adrenaline rush and caffeine and [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► everything else and your huddled with [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► your fellow contestants and here's [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► something I never thought about before i [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► got on the show is we do all the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► rehearsal in the morning they go through [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► we can talk more about details later you [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► know it we're introducing this huge [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► briefing we do rehearsal with all the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► actual gear they run through stuff and [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► then you go out there you all the [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► contestants are kept together at all [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► times because of the game show law so we [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► don't can't go off include or whatever [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► there's always a staffer in the room [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► with us who only deals with the [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► contestants there's a wall between them [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► and the writers of people no answers [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► plus there's a chance you might hit you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► over the head with a folding chair and [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► you want to miss that it's true way and [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► you know if they only ran cameras [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► backstage they would see how boring a [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► polite we are but so you start out with [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► i think is about 14 people and the [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► returning champion and were sitting [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► around talking get to know each other [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► you drink coffee laughing apparent notes [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► and you know getting the briefing [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► whatever it's all fun and games you go [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► out there you watching you rehearse you [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► sit down the ice was in the separate [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► rows we're not supposed to if there's [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► family members there you can't even wait [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► I didn't didn't have anybody there can't [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► wave or talk to anybody not supposed to [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► make eye contact with family members [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► again to keep everything on the up and [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► up and then the 1st game plays and in my [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► case this would have been a monday of [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► the week that we're in now the returning [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► champion she came out and completely [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► blood blackpath slaughter these two [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► perfectly nice guys she's great [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► fantastic player and and they were smart [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► guys they just got completely destroyed [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► and then they're gone they can't be with [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► us or not contesting Morse they can't [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► take it away they can sit another part [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► of the audience so they can leave and [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► now there's 13 of us and as the day goes [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► on there are fewer fewer people who say [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► they're going to oh my god it starts to [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► get a little creepy and you don't think [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► about that aspect i never thought about [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► I forgotten that contestants once [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► they're longer contestants they are no [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► longer allowed to be in our little cone [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► of quarantine so that was a little of [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► that part was surprising we're all gonna [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► it's a little like being in Vietnam you [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► just don't even learn baby you don't [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► even need to learn the names of the new [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► guys because he's probably be gone [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► before you know loses it's either me or [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► them babies either you're gone or if you [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► stay there you've destroyed them so it's [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► um but there's a lot of mutual support [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► to everyone we are generally the [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► attitude was we all wished we could all [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► wind because it was actually very nice [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► and funny and interesting and and so you [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► are competing but i am not that [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► bloodthirsty and I was really competing [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► against my own ability to bring in well [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► I you know I've always thought that like [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► survivor and The Amazing Race those are [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► we call them reality shows but they're [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► not reality shows like the real world or [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► something like that they are game there [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► i guess they call them nbme categories [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► the reality-competition program but it [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► is their game survivor you know for all [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► of its kind of manufacture drew [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► interpersonal drama it's a game show it [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► today their contests and people are [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► competing and and you know your it's [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► funny to think about that they're not [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► that far off from jeopardy and i would [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► imagine that when they pick contestants [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the to be in that random pool [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► they're also picking you know that they [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► you gotta qualify by answering these [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► questions in these qualifications to [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► show that you're worthy contestant but [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► then at some point I'd imagine you're [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► also being cast right there like the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► people we want to have on the area its [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► casting oh yeah i mean they're they're [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► testing the reason to do in person [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► auditions with what they told me at one [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► point was they said they used to do [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► these cattle call auditions and my good [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► friend Jeff Duncan has gone through a [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► bunch of Jeopardy auditions and and he [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► and I went up auditioning this time [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► around at the same time which was sort [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► of hilarious and they had 21 slots in [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► seattle we both got called for the same [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► expect was like of course and in so he [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► told me he's been through he started [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► auditioning in college even and the the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► way they used to do it is they'd you'd [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► send a postcard to them or something [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► crazy for even when there is the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► internet it's still send a postcard and [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► they would call people are so no doubt [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► like we're going to be in your area come [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► here and take a test or you go to LA at [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► certain times and then do it when they [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► only did in LA and so they get a room [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► full of people and they said they would [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► hand out the test and you know this [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► rapid fire thing to answer really [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► fascinates score it and then they'd send [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► almost everybody [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► I was just incredible it was a Hecatomb [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► they just kept you get a hundred people [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► like what would be left a calling of the [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► herd [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► yeah it was pretty soon as brutal from [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the contestant coordinator 10.2 is a [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► very inefficient way for them to find [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► people who had both the intellectual [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► ability ability to work under time [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► pressure and who they thought would [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► actually prevent one TV so this new [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► system where they're going and much [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► larger pool and they're there to I mean [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► I can't tell you how much the people of [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► all the shower all increase its a little [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► Stockholm Syndrome sure but they are all [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► actually really delightful it with me [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► that much so they're all incredibly [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► delightful people they really love their [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► job and they're really fun to hang out [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► with your backstage and they make it [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► really i mean it's a game should be fun [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► but they really make it it's clear they [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► all people [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► it reminds me of a chromatic macworld [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► magazine everyone likes to work together [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► back when was this year first attempt at [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► getting on the show you just looked into [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► it it was it was and I think you know I [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► gotta say it's others a little biography [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► like I you know I I i think i present [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► myself reasonably well but it's also i [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► had a couple of good stories I've got [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► another very interesting background but [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► I had a few good anecdotes about what [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► happened I'm pretty sure that the [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► 50-question screening tests they do when [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► you get there so the hundred thousand [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► people do online that's a rapid-fire [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► scheduled you have to like go online at [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► a very specific time they tell you be [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► ready have flash working and whatever [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► that help and then you if you pass that [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► then when the audition you get another [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► 50-question test the right and just [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► answers no questions answer the [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► following questions thank God and i'm [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► pretty sure i got 46 or 47 out of 50 [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► right which was much much better than [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► they do the online test I thought I'd [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► done horribly on so I scored well [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► there's they may be a good contender I [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► presented myself reasonably well and I [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► had a few good funny stories the [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► simulation game i did in the audition I [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► think I did quite well with this there's [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► a lot of game mechanics there watching [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► if you can pick it up really fast [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► because here's the other thing i didn't [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► think about they're not only suddenly [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► reality show or reality-competition they [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► also have to train you for television in [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► about two hours they get a room full of [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► people most of them never been on TV or [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► anything to do with being on TV and they [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► train you to present on TV for a [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► twenty-something minute segments in two [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► hours so they have to get people who [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► they believe they can try [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► I mean to do that will follow the rules [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► who won't burst out what burst out [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► crying during questions won't start [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► yelling won't argue with Alex let's say [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► inappropriate things that make them at [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► the stop and curl into a ball hot you [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► know hunched over there the microphone [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► but it's interesting isn't it because [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► you think of any average population of [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► relatively intelligent people you can [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► memorize things that those would be [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► reasonable reactions from some [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► percentage all this you don't have [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► people there's nobody there with a blush [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► reaction you know people of involuntary [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► blush reaction [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► no one there had involuntary flush [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► reaction which i'm sure they watch for [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► and I'm sure the fact that you nutramax [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► mom and his dentist probably didn't hurt [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► so Glenn can you tell me a little bit [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► walk us through a little bit what the [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► experience was I mean you've set a [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► little bit about being in the holding [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► pen with your fellow victims none none [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► of whom blush none of whom lunch rush [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► they're all blush for all they failed [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► their point boy camp test and they're [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► all applicants he just said they don't [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► blush involuntarily maybe they didn't [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► really want her there was wondering if [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► your conscience [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► they all have voluntary blood control [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► well so what they do is get some so that [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► the process is really really well [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► thought out because they've got a very [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► tight amount of time so i think i was [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► saying earlier they tape five shows a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► day two days a week sometimes depending [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► on what's going on tape five shows on [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► one day and then tape the next so [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► they're catching up right now from [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► summer hiatus where they're showing [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► reruns whether they're getting ahead [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► that already taped a few weeks of shows [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► when I was when I got there and [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► underwear from out of town lines up [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► staying at the same hotel it's a few [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► miles away it's very nice and then a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► group you know corporate rate so you go [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► in the morning and there's always people [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► holding extra clothes and they asked you [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► to bring a 3 like wearing outfits ready [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► to go on the air and bring a couple [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► changes of clothes case you went and [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► they need to pretend that you're there [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► for another day or soil yourself that is [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► not an option of these people soil [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► themselves either i should have been [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► involuntarily or involuntarily neither [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► understand you don't you just get out so [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► you go down to you know the area we're [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► waiting the hotel runs the shuttle and [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► they take everybody over there and [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► seeing all these somewhat nervous people [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► y'all gonna bust together and you're [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► joking around you go to the studio and [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► they should drop you off on this site [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► wait here the corner will be here in [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► your like did we just a joke isn't it is [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► this a bit like a parking lot somewhere [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► here you like wait outside of parking [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► lot of the studies on the Sony lot you [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► like really [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► they come out they take you in and then [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► you're with the contestant coordinator [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► for the rest of the time of your [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► contestant on the show and they there's [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► several people they're all the if you [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► read i read ken jennings book called [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► Brainiac which he wrote shortly after [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► his experience as a combination of it's [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► a great idea for this show for [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► uncomfortable it's a great book because [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► it's a combination of his experience in [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► the show interleaved with really [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► interesting stuff about the history of [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► trivia like why do we care about trivia [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► as a category and some very funny [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► stories a lot some interesting travel [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► for him as well research he's a good [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► writer and so I read Ken's book and also [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► read Bob Harris who is a five-time [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► winner in 1995 then came back for a [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► bunch of terminal champions shows [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► prisoner of Tribeca Stan which is also [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► it's actually a lovely memoir that's [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► disguised as a book that teaches you had [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► a win in jeopardy [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► so it's funny I and so a lot of the [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► people here like Maggie is the main [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► coordinator you hear her name all the [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► time she's in Cannes book she's been on [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► the show for 15 years [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► she's a who she's hilarious you spend [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► all this time with these people who run [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► the show and you have to be separated [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► from the writers because of the fairness [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► things you never talk you never alone [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► with anybody who's not a contestant [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► coordinator you never have access to [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► anybody else who works on the show and [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► accepting the sound people come into [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► makeup people and so forth so you spend [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► a couple hours [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► there's pastries there's coffee drinks [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► and they get to your makeup and they run [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► through all of the legal stuff all of [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the parameters the show how the game is [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► played the answer questions and then you [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► go and do rehearsal and you go up [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► onstage and it's the Jeopardy stage the [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► real thing and they run you through the [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► whole process you get a test the buzzer [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► e answer questions another guy named [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► Glen axes Alex and runs through several [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► games for the things they rotate us [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► through we sit in the audience and we [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► have some real time working with the [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► system and then they bring the actual [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► studio audience in about ten thirty and [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► they start to shoot shows and they cycle [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► us through that I have a quick go back [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► as a contestant do you get full access [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► to the craft services table or they just [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► cut off a small subset of the items and [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► hand them over to you it is not for [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► craft services i'm sorry and just leaves [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► us with a very nice fruit plate very [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► very nice and there's a very nice [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► pastry and bake goods played but you [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► don't get like Alex Trebek ex-convict [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► over cheese now they do take us out to [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► look for their issue if you're still in [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► place by lunch [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► hey to take you to the sunny commissary [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► where you may see such celebrities as I [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► don't know how extra mentor George [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► Clooney Alex doesn't eat they are one [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► question when do they do they put you on [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► like a data blackout as well because if [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► I if I knew that I've got like five [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► hours until i might be called I'd have [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► like a card with like here all the state [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► capitals here all the president's might [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► be at least like looking at this thing [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► recently like looking things up on my [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► iphone just cram last-minute short-term [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► memory facts into my head or do they say [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► nope you can't have a phone in here you [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► can have papers you can have anything [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► they're not that strict they do ask you [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► to turn off your cellphone's when you [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► get on a lot and not turn it back on [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► until the end of the day but they don't [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► there's not a there's no they're not [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► very you know rigorous about that i mean [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► they do I think if they saw people doing [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► something they'd say something of the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► phone rang it would be a problem because [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► I would violate the rules but they just [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► expect everyone to follow them you can [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► have a book i had and i didn't see [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► anyone doing like flop sweats flop flop [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► sweat studying like no one was whipping [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► out steps like your your fate is sealed [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► your doom two might as well just sit [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► there and take care either you pay [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► attention American history class 18 [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► years ago or you didn't [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► yeah comes that point you're cramming [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► where you just realize it's a completely [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► lost cause and you just sit back and [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► cried when it's time to it's time to be [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► the ball [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► although I credit the Bob Harris book i [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► present to record Stan I credit him [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► because i read that book several weeks [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► before i was on the show and because i [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► heard it had some strategy and it does [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► have a lot of interesting strategy and i [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► use the strategy and i would argue and [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► have actually even email bob harris [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► telling us that i would argue that I [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► only I only did as well as i did because [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► i read his book for two reasons one is [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► he explains lashes several reasons don't [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► call them but there's several [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► interesting things the book one of them [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► is that you can deconstruct the clues as [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► they appear on screen to the part that [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► actually matters because the writers for [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► more complicated things especially they [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► actually give you the answer in the clue [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► if you read it the right way [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► yeah so that's you know I think that's [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► one thing so i would look at clues and I [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► would sometimes be tons of words and i [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► would do and he's also you read the [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► whole head as fast as you can read you [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► don't wait for Alex to read it because [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► otherwise you're working only at the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► speed of his sound of the speed of his [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► fast you can think which is obvious but [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► it's easy to get lulled into it yeah a [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► lot of jeopardy questions or I guess [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► answers the questions in the form of an [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► answer that's uh are are a very small [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► fact connected to the category followed [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► by a piece of trivia that's irrelevant [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► right so there's a lot of like this [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► Belgian entertainer once ate an entire [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► mackerel right and you're like no no but [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► the category is people named named named [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► Jacques and it's a belgian entertainer [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► and there's only one of those guys and [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► it's Jacques Lemaire and it's him and [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► and that antenna and that the fact that [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► he ate a fish does is completely [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► irrelevant to the fact because because [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► you don't need that information nobody [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► cares it's at first bit and that's [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► really all it is like build an [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► entertainer shock doctor clues will even [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► be I saw ones that were like and I'm not [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► recalling exactly like the category will [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► be colors and it will be like being for [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► the Perseus persistent immersion water [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► this you know 19th century fish are the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► 93 fish of this color refracts through [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► blonde like it's red it's red like [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► ignore everything with the fact that [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► really just on you it's red or this get [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► this crimson fish you know you like [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► crimson fish all these crimson color is [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► red [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► yeah so his book sort of details a [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► process by which you deconstruct clues [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► and do it and i would say several times [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► there's times when you see something [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► it's and it's a fact you look at it the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► clue comes up and it's you know this [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► American president killed in Ford's [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► Theater you don't need to reconstruct [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► that's linked in God [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► alright was wearing a hat and a certain [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► area and now had recently in a [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► nineteenth-century crimson fish because [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► okay all i know that guy Delta but [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► here's the final jeopardy not from you [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► know there's a site called Jade a shark [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► on that has every single clue and answer [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► every score every one about every piece [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► of banter that [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► alex said presented his game boards for [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► the entire history of the show [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► god I love the internet that's what the [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► internet is for right there [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► shadows are great aren't they I now have [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► my idea for my next big bang theory [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► spectra specialist Sheldon auditions for [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► jeopardy and starts off by memorizing [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► every answer that's everything my god [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► that's perfect [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► people do so one of the guys if you [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► watch a determined of champions in 2011 [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► had this guy named Roger Craig he won a [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► total of two hundred thirty one thousand [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► dollars over seven days he won the [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► highest score dollar man i believe [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► 77,000 dollars in a single day in the [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► 2010-11 a run that he had what he did [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► and they came back for tournament [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► champions and he he did extremely well I [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► don't think e1 I don't remember what he [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► did uh anyway he did very well he won [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► the no idea when the tournament 2011 I'm [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► sorry of that year so here's the thing [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► what he did is he was a computer [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► scientist something like this some [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► background programming he took the [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► entire j archive thing instead of [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► memorizing the sum total of human [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► knowledge that falls within the [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► parameters of what drop jeopardy test [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► son he took the archive any test himself [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► incessantly on only two things that come [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► up in the show before and that's how we [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► want because there's a lot of knowledge [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► that they exhaust entire categories of [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► the whole point of the questions on [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► Jeopardy that they asked the clues is [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► people at home have to not feel stupid [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► when they don't get it right that is the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► clue is the key to jeopardise they need [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► peoplesmart enough fast enough and [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► poison up to play the game two or three [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► people on stage at a time will know the [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► answer to any given question that is a [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that is true i saw it again and again [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► but what they need to do is have clues [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► that when someone doesn't get they don't [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► go I don't care about Plantagenet [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► politics [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► what is monic they need people they need [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► things that are common enough that [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► people go all we can learn that 120 [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► that's great where they know the answer [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► and if it doesn't play at home that way [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► it's not a good clue so the universe of [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► knowledge is not all facts that could be [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► in trivia bar trivia or something or [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► obscure trivia contest right nasty [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► things that people home aren't [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► embarrassed to not know sorry Charlie [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► this fish often contains too much [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► mercury that's perfect that's part of [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► stuff like that because it but hey I [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► remember that commercial yeah i'm joking [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► but they occasionally do through [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► something in like there was a category [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► called the Plantagenets and all of the [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► questions were like it was when I play [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► this was at several weeks ago and i'm [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► watching this going like the writers [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► went temporarily insane alex is looking [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► at it [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► everyone's looking at it's like in 1735 [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► the Dauphin of France made this really [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► was like dying because like you know it [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► was there are categories like that are a [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► little nutty [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► yeah you know there's the the that [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► awkward silence when Alex asked the [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► question and there's just no answer and [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► and it's like anybody want any any [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► overlap hate and that's not good TV the [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► category was fiction [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► he says with his selection alex is that [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► is a Dutch uncle he's the perfect [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► definition of someone who expresses some [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► amount of positivism but most of it is [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► it's like slight reproof most the time [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► that I thought that chuckles something [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► completely different yeah so that was in [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► your that was in your high school so [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► Glenn I'm how did they pick the kind of [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► semi ridiculous bits of personal trivia [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► that they that they have during the [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► segment where Alex briefly deigns to [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► chat with the players [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► you're supposed to fill out when you [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► fill out at every stage of this process [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► you provide information in the form of [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► anecdotes not in the form of questions [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► and they're they're asking i think at [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► least like six different times they [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► asked me to provide 325 interesting [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► stories of things that happened to me I [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► was involved with and i don't know if i [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► use the same ones every time but i mean [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► and i think i had to fill something out [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► even for the online thing with it is [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► testing you and then when the audition [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► happens they send you something ahead [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► and supposed to write it out and then [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► you get you know before you go that you [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► fill out paperwork and they asked [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► whether you get there and they review it [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► and they work with you on your stories [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► they don't ask you to fake it but they [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► want to have [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► three items from you any given time so i [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► had to come up with more while I was [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► there because i want so and they'll be [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► like that's not so good i'm like this [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► happen to me they're like yeah it's not [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► gonna play that well so what about did [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► you ever was embarrassing thing nobody [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► cares that your mailman once knew Isaac [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► Asimov they don't you don't we don't [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► care that you met you have they're [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► asking you for joining they're asking [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► you to do blending that's right i mean i [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► cannot think of a more perfect role for [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► you I didn't learn as well as I could [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► have but I did Clifford so so what so [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► not that I because i haven't seen the [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► episodes that have already aired what we [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► are what we are anecdotes that Alex [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► actually asked you about Alex asked me [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► about how I broke the first review ipod [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► unit i was sent before they were [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► released which was a good one and then [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► he asked me a very because I you know I [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► got an ipod about a month as you [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► probably about a month before you try to [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► update it [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► no I put a audio jack and not realizing [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► it was an extra long one and it broke [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► the device that broke the circuit board [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► and they're like will send the other one [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► is very nice very nice [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► it's a good story it's like I get one of [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► the first ipods and I broke its that's a [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► good story you know right our next [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► contestant from san diego is no go ahead [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► and then talk more generally about i [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► mentioned something about how I rather [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► like you know I write about technology [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► and rather write about things matter to [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► people and oddly enough he picked that [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► Alex ism Allison cat and I've read and [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► write a few books that you know from [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► these people been on the show while like [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► Bob Harris or ken jennings have been on [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► repeatedly or for long periods and [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► everyone always wants to know what Alex [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► like from people spent that much time [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► and he's he's a cipher but you get [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► little bits and pieces like Alex [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► somebody asked the audience answers [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► questions between during commercial you [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► know this the results commercial breaks [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► we have other touching up makeup and [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► doing all that is the only answer that [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► shot questions and it's a very personal [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► nice guy and very very low key and [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► someone said you know what's the most [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► extreme thing that's happening when you [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► got recognized as like extreme things [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► seen things like I don't think anything [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► extreme has ever happened when someone's [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► recognize great like always say Jack [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► about it is said but like someone else [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► about cars i can't really into cars like [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► I got any mention it's really a normal [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► truck models like i like it because i [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► can put 16 foot piece of lumber in it [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► when I go to my house and he's talking [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► about like clearing which does the [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► george bush things like clearing brush [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► like he when he's not taping he's often [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► his ranch in Laurel Canyon working on [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► his yard I mean I think that's what he [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► enjoys doing I don't think he likes [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► technology made some comment to somebody [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► it sounded like grandpa I was like yeah [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► Jimmy you know the internet right you do [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► something is that what city aspect about [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► how email works or something you know [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► it's his level of technological [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► development is very withdrawn and I [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► think that's actually kind of cool [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► thanks there little man inside the board [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► putting up the orange with the answer's [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► no [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► ah so someone asked them of course as [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► they always do I think every taping [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► someone said what about SNL do you like [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► those he's like I love when people make [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► fun of me I think it's great hilarious i [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► love will ferrell he was incredibly [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► funnies and he can tell he's not a Alex [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► as you've seen by watching the show heat [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► kinda weird it's hard to sleep a little [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► when he has disdain for something he you [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► can hear it that's not hidden so he [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► clearly enjoyed it and he's talking [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► about was great the last time was on [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► they asked me on the show what a treat [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► that was whatever and then he walks when [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► he turns back looks at the audience feel [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► to this theory says but I don't like [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► Sean Connery maybe what was Sean Connery [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► I don't like it or something like that [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► i'm like a cancel it was a joke he's [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► very dry also known as Joker whatever [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► but he's you know he's in our he knows [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► it's also Canadian by the way Canadian [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► it's of course radians by many in [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► simulators he actually recollected back [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► to heat this is the 10th game show Alex [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► Trebek coaster [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► yeah I was gonna say my first experience [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► with alex trebek was any fine high [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► quality dice rolling basis series high [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► rollers Cyril he had a big fro right [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► when we add someone out there is so much [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► here that Eugene Levy was playing on [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► MCTV that's what he brought that up he's [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► like I've been parodied by to you know [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► well-known communications thank you very [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's funny that we did he [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► end up on a on the show that is [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► considered to be you know more [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► challenging intellectual and yet I i [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► still can remember that he was the guy [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► who is like you're gonna roll those dice [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► again I mean it was it was like one cut [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► below card sharks gotta pay your dues [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► man you don't guys are not in jeopardy [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► you gotta start down there with pressure [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► lock and [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► move your way up oh I gotta say the most [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► exciting thing this is actually most [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► exciting thing I don't know why this is [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► so exciting i go in the studio and who [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► is there who is there [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► johnny gilbert is there Johnny Gilbert [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► who you know come on now come on the [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► journal detailing their physicals and [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► just got this is what jeopardy and he [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► does it every time fresh that is a fresh [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► he sits there they go wit goten they [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► point to him and he felt something out [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► perfectly every time he's a t-shirt sold [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► it comes and he warms up the audience he [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► talks the answers questions [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► he's such as like this kind the old guy [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► that he sits down and that beautiful [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► voice pours out of and that's like a [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► voice heard like Don Pardo's my whole [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► life and he's saying your name that's [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► awesome from Seattle Washington [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► technology journalists from Seattle [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► Washington out the glinting account so [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► Glenn I do you watch you watch jeopardy [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► or do you just go and take their money [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► I well I so that confession is i watched [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► I'm sure watched well over a thousand [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► episodes and then we gave up cable and [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► we RNA and satellite 1a TV shadow from [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► wheeler at the bottom of the hill and [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► all the TV transmitters are the top so [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► it's very hard for us to even get [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► broadcast TV so i didn't watch it for [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► several years edition somewhere in there [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► but i think i watch jeopardy [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► we watched it kind of shows rebooted in [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► 1984 but I watched reruns and the [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► original run with Fleming art Fleming oh [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► my gosh great show and I think Don Pardo [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► was the announcer that run or something [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► everything all right yes because I [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► remember because he also did the weird [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► al yankovic video [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► yes well on Jeopardy was all your [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► plumbing and don don pardo you're a [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► complete loser is watched I want to know [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► from 1984 to probably 2004 I probably [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► watched it earlier more but later little [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► less but I watched a large chunk of that [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► 20-year history so I haven't watched [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► much last few years I picked up some [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► episodes they do a great job in policing [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► because it's in syndication you cannot [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► find jeopardy shows online and I tried I [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► tried to find torrents or downloads and [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► I thought there must be some weird [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► jeopardy subculture that trades [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► episode after the errors or any value [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► don't release dvds must be something but [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► so what i did is i hooked up an ITV and [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► be ye TV and manipulated a 3d TV antenna [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► enough that I can get the local NBC [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► affiliate which airs i watched a good [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► couple months of it before going on so I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► was up-to-date so my um my in-laws watch [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► jeopardy religiously they actually have [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► a a DVR season pass for jeopardy so they [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► will sometimes have three or four [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► episodes and then it's like just a a a [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► marathon of Jeopardy Clause like let's [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► watch another one right well we're while [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► we're down there visiting and I I every [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► time I see Geoffrey and I used to watch [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► it regularly him i always think to [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► myself oh ho i can answer many of these [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► questions I should be on Jeopardy but [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► you know I think one there's the reality [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► that I probably shouldn't be on Jeopardy [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► into I haven't ever even attempted to be [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► on it so I'm I'm fascinated I know Andy [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► has taken the the test and Glenn manage [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► somehow through a horrible mistake to be [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► actually put on the show I selected the [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► reality very much like an anthem i [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► selected the reality in which I was on [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► the show as much easier than actually [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► getting on the show the job so so I you [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► know it's fascinating to me because I [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► you know I i'm one of those people who [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► just sort of sits back and says yeah and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► i know some of those questions I oh I [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► got that final jeopardy right i could be [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► on the show and you know maybe I don't [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► plant the plant attention its well [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► enough for the vice president's to be I [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► just I i audition only because i really [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► missed taking standardized tests its [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► little guys I'm solid for like five six [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► years because I get to sit in a room [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► with a tiny desk and a piece of paper [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► and somebody will judge me at yes and [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► and in the form of a number i will give [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► me a number judge me in the form of a [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► number with this is scantron i would say [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► this though you know the other thing I [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► got another thing i got from bob harris [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► book i took to heart and absolutely [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► helped me was i did go to memorize stuff [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► i spent i would say 50 to 60 hours from [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► when I got called to and and confirmed [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► to be on the show too when I was on the [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► first shell I least 40 50 hours i would [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► have [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► but start with I spent usually almost [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► three hours a night after my normal work [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► was done memorizing president's potent [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► potables vice president hopes state [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► matos they love wars they especially [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► love the spanish-american war and the [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► russell Japanese where I don't know why [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► these kind of all the time things about [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► them there was a question i believe it [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► was the final jeopardy several weeks ago [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► I might have been i did a lot of study [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► on Jay archive as well to get a sense of [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► how the flow of the show goes without [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► why I could go through like a hundred [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► shows on there so the question was this [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► war was ended with a treaty signed it [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► wasn't was this i saw that episode when [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► i was at my analyze this is paid what [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► was it was it was a treaty was signed in [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► this city even though it was the tree [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► for the war was signed in a city of [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Kittery Maine even though it went under [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► a different name and you're like what in [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► God's name is wrong with you people and [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► the answer was it was the run so [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► Japanese war yeah the treaty was signed [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► in kittery it was called the Treaty of [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► portsmouth yes decided portsmouth yours [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► was named after Portsmouth New Hampshire [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► one of the most baffling questions i [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► understand i'm doing pretty and I don't [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► think anyone got it but you're like [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► could mostly questions aren't like that [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► but i did they like Kaiser Wilhelm II [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► like out of as Mark realignment opera of [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► the seventeenth and eighteenth century [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► arguments there's like it's but it's [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► that's you know who's the audience liked [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► our show people in their seventies like [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► to retirees I think the thing was that [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► kittery was a little bit embarrassed to [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► be involved with that war so they they [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► use portsmouth instead I think the [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► Portsmouth is actually like Alan Smithee [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► of the treaty signing locale all [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► treaties are signed in portsmouth but [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► but there are there are so many [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► recurring themes that you cannot do so [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► that there's a general guidance that [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► they're asking questions people at home [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► could possibly know the answer to our or [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► kick themselves they didn't but they're [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► not ridiculous and the other is there's [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► a small enough universe so I there are [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► many many questions i got correctly i [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► got the correct question for because i [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► had done this initial studying and I [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► didn't poke other people I wasn't trying [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► to psych me the axe I'm not that kind of [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► bastard but i did ask around a little [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► bit i'm not sure most people did things [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► and much did that kind of memorization [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► and this comes back to me i watched a [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► early seasons of Survivor not the first [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► season but a few of those with a bunch [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► of friends we get together every week [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► and watch it for like three seasons and [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► after season 1 season 1 shows that [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► people don't know what to expect no [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► actually yeah so open-hearted where [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► they're playing a game think they're on [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► the real world and it's a lot of the [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► same person is playing a game and wins [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► easily after the first season what's the [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► one thing you know if you are not just [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► audition for what's the one thing you [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► should go prepared for when you arrive [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► before you arrive you need to know how [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► to make tire [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah how many people knew how to [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► make fire in seasons 23 and 41 you know [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► how to pay your first you don't go to [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► jail [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► yeah well that was yeah that's that's [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► nothing was fascinating thing in the [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► world that thing but Richard had Richard [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► Hatch was actually the answer recently [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► too in fact and for that questions I'm [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► sure what this early survivor person was [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► an idiot in vegas nexus and kinda like [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► oh that's libelous no action that is [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► exactly what he did so it's not liable [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► because he actually did is contagious [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► and sex is it back [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► no you're right the baby was fundamental [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► like what what is what here is a skill [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► you need to practice and yet [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► mind-bogglingly for the first couple of [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► seasons people didn't practice the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► making of fire and yet once you've got [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► this will actually why I stopped I [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► watched the first probably like eight [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► seasons of Survivor and I loved it and I [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► loved it not for the spectacle part but [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► for the gameplay part the strategy of a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► very strange game where you have to win [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► individual challenges but you also have [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► to kind of barter with your with your [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► your your teammates because they can [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► vote you off but in the end they have to [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► get you the money so you can't you can't [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► be too objectionable in your strategy [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► fascinating stuff but the problem is as [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► it goes along people learn what they [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► need to do exactly perform and then [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► everybody knows it and then and then [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► you're in that i know that you know that [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► I know that you know thing and it's not [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► very interesting anymore [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► a lot of shows like how they do you [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► think like the was the show was the one [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► with a guy cleaning millionaire wasn't [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► always that show called million a [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► million really yeah you can do that once [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► apparently they try to date in like [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► France they went to some other country [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► to try to do people into it on a [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► different season but you can't be a [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► survivor became a show that lost its [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► that lost that I like the four i watch [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► later three or four seasons and I was [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► fascinated by how interesting it was how [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► anthropological it was and how clever [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► another some key people on there is also [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► some very interesting and and shouldn't [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► yeah but you're like okay so your cat [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► you know you're putting your cast on [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► jeopardy [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► hey we're going to be in jeopardy and if [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► you're out of town they typically give [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► you four five or even six weeks before [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► your parents to make sure you can make [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► arrangements [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► what are you doing that intervening time [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► you say oh that's great i disturbing you [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► never knew my life [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► yeah so I'm not criticizing any pics of [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► any other contestants but in my mind I'm [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► like I have the time i would actually to [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► win and I would say that the my [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► investment of time paid off and like you [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► know eight hundred dollars an hour or [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► something like that so yeah I'm not an [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► obvious the first thing i do if they [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► told me I was going on Jeopardy would be [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► to memorize the president's and the [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► state capitals and the state matos and [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► all of vice presidents and obscure wars [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► the year of the president they're [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► actually because they know people will [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► memorize president's they now have [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► gotten even more granular this is one [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► evolution of the show is they do stuff [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► about like in 1751 or 1788 blah blah [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► blah so they had i believe was the final [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► jeopardy last year saw in the archives [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► it was between eighteen between us 1841 [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► and 1851 there were this was the number [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► of presidents who were in office and [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► you're like oh my god and the answer [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► does anyone know the answer 1741 to our [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► 1841 rather to 1851 how many presidents [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► were office during that period of time [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► do sex to what is sex like six is [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► correct [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► that's very good you should be in [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► jeopardy that was the only gas that's [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► that's not crazy in there it's a sexier [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► if it's for if it's a jeopardy and not [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► double jeopardy then you will be allowed [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► to rephrase like that so I always are [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► six it's a condition that yet [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► yeah you do every question was simply [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► that so you're prepared and and and [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► that's good now Andy I know you as i'm [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► actually many people I know are big fan [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► of another reality competition show [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► which is the amazing race and i think [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► one of the things that reasons that the [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► amazing race holds up better than [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► survivor now and I say that that pains [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► me to say that because I've always liked [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► the amazing race but i really really [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► love survivor for a long time but [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► survivor got worn out like i said [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► because of this whole strategy overload [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► and the Amazing Race you know there [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► isn't that much and they've tried a [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► little bit there isn't that much of a of [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► a [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► uh an inter interpersonal interaction [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► tested gameplay there are more focused [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► in jeopardy terms on pressing the button [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► and knowing the answer not like you know [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► putting a banana peel on the you know [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the person next to them so that they [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► slipped and fallen Alex last them right [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► i mean it's much more straightforward [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► than that I think that's why it's [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► replayable in a way that survivor isn't [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► yeah there's no there there to there two [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► elements in this is the album hope [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► they're two elements to make it great [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► and one of them is that you can I don't [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► like about survivors that starting with [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► season three pretty much by episode 30 [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► ok there's six people that are in team [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► boo [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► the other one is already making [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► alliances the house yeah it's like so [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► for the next ten just counted as [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► e-exactly until we get down to three and [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► the best is boring [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► whereas on amazing race there is no way [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► to form on effective alliances there are [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► specific rules that says that you can't [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► if if there are eight back if they're [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► eight tools setup for this challenge you [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► can't touch anybody else inspector tools [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► or else you'll get they'll get [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► eliminated the only the only season was [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► ever really awful was when they actually [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► had a case when the teams from Survivor [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► about bought Johnny boston or Boston Rob [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► whatever and so Boston Rob so that was [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► the only time that any team ever managed [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► to successfully like interfere with [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► another team but but the others but the [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► other thing is that the producers can't [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► do it really can't control the outcome [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► at all right because even if it is great [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► favor i always i always mention this [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► because it is the signature of why this [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► is such a great show [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► they started off with the first it was [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► the first season after 911 and you're [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► really imagine that all my god this is a [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► this is a show that's all about going [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► from airport to airport to airport and [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► now they have to do it with increased [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► security how's it going to risk of work [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► and you could tell the producers like [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► you know what we're gonna have two teams [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► of two teams of muslim muslim [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► contestants one of which are designed [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► that i'm totally totally ignorant of how [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► people deserve that faith but there are [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► some people who are reflected better [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► word like a mark devout and so they they [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► they wear the clothing is supposed to [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► where they have the facial hair supposed [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► to where they pray the time supposed to [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► pray and one of these teams was one of [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► these teams are going to go through the [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► world a time when Muslims and Muslims [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► are probably [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► to be the most scrutinized and the most [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► abused people in any in any non-muslim [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► country and the first episode both of [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► those teams got eliminated and so that's [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► what tells you that it's ok for the [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► producers to think they're going to set [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► something up but all that has to happen [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► is for someone to get a cab with a cab [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► driver does not know how to get to the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► place that that person is asked for or [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► someone leaves their passport behind or [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► someone for someone decides i'll just [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► leave my shoes here i'm sure that the [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► producers will like collected for me [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► than the producers don't collect them [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► through the rest of the thing barefoot [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► it's it that's fine but it'sit's I don't [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► think that only survivors bad as big [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► brother but haven't seen you in recent [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► years they've done things like oh well [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► you were voted off but you found the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► secret Idol that you follow the clue [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► that only you can access to i will say [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► this about survivors they they because [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► they are subject to some of the same [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► rules this jeopardy [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► they have to set these these a twist in [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► advance and that's again part of the [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► problem is that they say well what if [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► there was a an immunity idol and there [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► was a you know and and it-it-it you do [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► it to make things the storyline the [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► varied from season to season but it [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► actually isn't that much it's sort of [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► cheapens it and and the variation in the [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► amazing race is just the randomness of [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► the act and because that show is [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► structured that way it you never know [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► what's gonna happen [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► that's what got to be the problem with [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► survivor for me i think i only got [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► through maybe three or four series of [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► that as well and the reason was [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► there's really only so much you can do [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► to shake it up and then the rules [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► yeah remain the same and once they were [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► determined by richard hatch in the first [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► season he figured it out [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► he did and then master i mean i would [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► say bastard bye-bye rotten Boston Rob [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► was made a wife who perfected it and [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► then it was just this that same game [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► over and over again i watched a project [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► runway the first few seasons of project [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► runway which i think is five seasons and [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► I quite liked it because of my graphic [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► design back when I thought it was [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► actually a valid way to challenge people [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► and explore aesthetics in the middle of [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► this sort of game show sort of thing to [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► and was funny is the first season of [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► Project Runway everybody was playing it [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► like you know it's the design [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► competition we've done this before and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► there's one woman who played like [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► survivor and it was weird is how you [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► watch her do things and scheme and [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► and she ultimately I don't win but she [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► was one of the four three finalists i [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► think at Fashion Week and it was the [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► whole thing was bizarre cause you're [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► like this woman doesn't get it anyway [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► they brought her back to their like hey [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► let's contact about how the season went [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► thing she was still like that one this [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► big but you're like you're on a [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► different show [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► yeah you're on the wrong you think you [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► won but what you do is you showed that [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► like these strategies don't really work [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► she was actually very good at what she [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► did she was a seamstress shiso dresses [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► all the time and just like one survived [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► oh my god on Survivor you need to make [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► fire on the second season of Project [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► Runway people arrived within the third [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► and the fourth with no hand sewing [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► skills so she had great skills and she [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► attributed it to playing the game sort [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► of the hatchway the thing that I always [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► thought was kind of interesting to [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► ruminate about with survivor was what if [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► Richard Hatch had played that first game [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► a completely different way [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► would everybody still model themselves [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► after that but that's what I'm thinking [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► you know i mean he he chose to be a [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► conniving guy who who formed alliances [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► and didn't mind backstabbing whereas [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► pretty much everybody else in that first [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► season was just kind of two wandering [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► around the island failing to make fire [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► and stabbing themselves in the foot with [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► spears and that kind of thing I haven't [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► watched haven't watch more of them i can [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► tell you that there were there did [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► emerge a couple other winner profiles [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► the the kind of under there was one in [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► four separate our who won one year and [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► she was gone under the radar and and [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► several other winners have come under [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► that method which is that they they they [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► lay low [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► they are a a constant sort of they're [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► not much of a threat or perceived as [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► much of a threat right but they're [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► always they're always faithful [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► they work hard they keep that you know [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► they keep you do not perceive as one of [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► the leaders so they're not perceived as [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► one of the enemies by the other team so [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► when they merge together right and that [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► was a winning strategy tube and I do [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► wonder if people notice the hatch thing [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► and and and but over the course of like [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► 10 or 15 seasons of Survivor turns out [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► they're sort of two or three modes that [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► might work and that was always the thing [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► that I liked about survivor that kept me [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► watching for a long time was that it was [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► a complex enough game that I kept trying [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► to think of what you know my wife and I [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► would watch an episode and then we would [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► spend 30 minutes talking about the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► episode not about like oh can you [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► believe what she said [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► not that it was like what would you do [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► in that city [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► malaysian what's the right play there [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► how do you approach that much that [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► they're not very many TV shows that will [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► make me after every episode spent half [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► an hour trying to debate we just saw and [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► whether it's been that whatever its best [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► survivor was that it's just that after a [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► while it became so ridiculously [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► convoluted that there was there was no [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► point in Indiana and there's just only [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► so much you can do to shake up that [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► formula where is in the amazing race it [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► before world is complicated by design i [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► mean there's nothing you can do to avoid [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► things being shaken up at every turn [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► when you're dealing with travel and TSA [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► agents and you noticed that the vagaries [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► of getting on a bus and finding your way [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► to various places or bad cab driver also [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► you can't pretend to be someone that [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► you're not so if you're going to say [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► here's the person to portray myself as [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► that will have to break down after about [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► the second episode because you're too [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► tired you're too stressed out that you [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► have not had a chance to breathe and [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► that's why the the signature when the [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► other signature features is the episode [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► number one they have like the the full [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► 30 second profile of each team you have [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► the the hippie guy you know so you know [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► I teach transcendental yoga and I think [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► that's because i have that ability to [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► connect with people by absolutely [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► all right you son of a panic non-english [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► speaking again yet you're gonna take us [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► to the top 10 factor I'm like okay this [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► is anyone to call them like i was [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► thinking is you're talking about this at [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► like any wonderful if there were shows [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► that were you had the crunchy earthy [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► crunchy thing of of showing how [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► communities work together and realize [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► there are so shows like that i watch the [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► several years ago I can't find the name [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► of eights it was a i might in PBS but it [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► was it was a high-minded as people were [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► living as if they want a colony and they [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► had to produce returned by the year and [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► so yeah I should've been a few a few of [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► those like 18 eighteen hundred house and [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► it was like the 1600 settings because [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► there was in the head of negotiate with [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► local first peoples and then at some [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► point at the end of the show hit the end [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► of the show the you know the the [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► colonial governor whoever was comes over [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the counter was it was like a company [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► like the like a trading company [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► organization they came over this ever [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► broken your charter because you guys [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► didn't do well enough my friend [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► there's a front frontier house colonial [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► house and met [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► the manor house i think it was this was [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► a house they are actually living in sort [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► of a village but whatever it was it was [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► I thought that actually came closest to [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► saying like nobody wasn't an individual [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► competition and I know there's been [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► these in the UK Europe as well as is [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that you have to work against social [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► experiment show yeah it's a little [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► different and it's not eliminate almost [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► like a documentary of a fake some fake [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► documentary it's like a documentary [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► reality experiment thing exactly like a [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► nonfiction but it's it's setup and yeah [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► that's very strange i I'm it's funny [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► when you mentioned Project Runway that [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► that uh my wife watch project runway for [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► a while and she was I think like you [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► frustrated by the fact that some people [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► really wanted to play it like survivor [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► and or or play it worse play it like the [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► the like the real world and in the end [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► and I believe that show changed [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► producers and they actually changed it [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► from a company that specialized in [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► competition programs to a producer that [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► specialized in you know reality TV [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► that's what experiences at which point [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► my wife said I'm never gonna watch that [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► show again because that they decided it [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► wasn't about the competition it was [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► about people being bitchy and I'm not [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► interested [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► honestly I'm just not interested in in [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► that kind of show i want to see people [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► not pretending to be archetypes but be [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► fairly real or you know a TV version of [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► their real self but people doing things [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► trying to outwit people or trying to [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► show off their talent and be forced to [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► be creative or put in extreme situations [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► like the amazing race these things these [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► things kind of interest me and it's you [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► know jeopardy they don't starve you and [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► and make you make fire but you know it's [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► late i'll give you access to the full [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► craft services table which as far as I'm [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► concerned about the same so it's a [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► gentler slightly but but still in the [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► end you know it it's a competition it's [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► a brute but it's a brutal it's brutal [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► Oh instance was selling it as a blow [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► dart gun they don't tell you that you to [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► land them contestant with you [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► situation uh and let me tell you that [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► shit that chit chat where you're [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► standing on your marks was fortunate to [TS]