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00:00:00 ◼   ► not the most important element of humor [TS]

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00:00:03 ◼   ► the incomparable podcasts number 110 [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► october twenty ground [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► incompetent podcast I'm your host Jason [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► smell and in this episode we're going to [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► be talking about the just-concluded [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► first half of the latest season of [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► doctor who which is no spit it split in [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► half with part ever gonna fall which [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► just finished another part airing in the [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► spring after the Christmas special bc [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► Doctor Who joining me to discuss this [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► interesting 5 episode mini season are [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► Glenn fleischmann hi Colin [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► hello there hello I also hear Dan Morgan [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► hi [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► hey what's up a wow yeah [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► hey well I was good we'll get some cig I [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► did more in our garbage truck driver [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► also joining us is the ever pleasant [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► Scott McNulty hi Scott [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► hello it's nice that you also watch [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► television and don't just read books [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► sometimes i do both at the same time [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► that's crazy that's crazy [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► it's madness and of course he would not [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► dare to be missed on this episode it's [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► john siracusa hi John [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► we're doing Dalek impressions on this [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► one or not I just want to know how [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► excited I should be we can we should do [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► Rory impressions [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► I'm doing my weeping angel impression [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► right now okay less excited by the [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► moment and and to be fair he starts at a [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► pretty low level seven [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► yeah funny about that i'm only excited [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► when you're not looking at me huh [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► john is a Weeping Angel of joy that's [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► good I like that [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► um so we did a flash podcast about the [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► first episode of this 5 episode set [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► which was the asylum of the daleks so [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you can look that one up [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► we we did that and and spend a about now [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► we're talking about it so I thought we [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► would go through the other episodes [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► unless there's somebody out there who's [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► got a UH another axe to grind about [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► asylum of the daleks I thought we move [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► on and talk about the other four [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► episodes i hearing no grinding i will [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► move on so the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► second episode and in the this mini [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► season was the literally titled [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► dinosaurs on a spaceship [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► I if you don't remember which episode [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► this was it's the one with the dinosaurs [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► on a spaceship had to recap after that [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► we had they're all all these uh forward [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► titles there was a town called mercy [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► which is the Western there was the power [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► of three which is the story about the [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► invasion of boxes and then we had the [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► angels take manhattan which aired like [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► most recently underwent the muppets did [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► it didn't we talk about haha i want to [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► start with dinosaurs on a spaceship I I [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► am I i thought this was a clunker I I [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► didn't like this one but there were [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► dinosaurs and they're on a spaceship [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► Nefertiti was there for no particular [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► reason for no reason and that and some [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► some dude who was like a an adventure [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► dude it was it was a Lestrade yeah way [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► that it was inspector Lister that was on [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► a spaceship with Dinosaurs i was to say [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► they're the the only thing that I really [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► thought was the most redeeming thing [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► about this episode was I really love for [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► his dad [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► oh yeah you think that's awesome I just [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► what a great what a great piece of [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► casting and what a great i mean he may [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► be my favorite thing about this entire [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► little mini season i have to say i just [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► i really enjoyed him I i entered into [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► like roses moms with background context [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► you reminded me of wolf actually which [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► was another one of my favorite [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► characters lead [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► yeah no it was um that yeah he was that [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► he was really the only redeeming thing [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► in this episode I thought I thought it [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► was a I in fact in some ways the worst [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► of the Russell T Davis era [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► let's take a high concept that we know [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► is sure to be sure to please the kids [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and and honestly dinosaurs wander ships [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► yeah and honestly dinosaurs on a [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► spaceship might have worked as that core [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► story but it isn't just that right it's [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► about 15 other things poured in here [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► with this at some point in the future on [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► earth and the Indian subcontinent is now [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► in charge of [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► of Earth space defenses they're just in [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► charge of space which is a nice touch [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► and apparently they make nuclear weapons [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► that once locked on [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► there's nothing you can ever do again [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► because you always want as with the [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► assignment the Daleks you always want to [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► make sure that once you've triggered [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► there's never an eye on any [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► circumstances we turn off because you [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► never want to do that as we know [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► surely even if you want to do it later [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► you still don't understand call me [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► Shirley and there's Nefertiti and [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► there's and there's the adventure guy [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► and why are they there and then they get [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► Rory and Amy and Rory's dad which is [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► funny [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► now we're not mentioning is nothing [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► obvious we're missing here too which is [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► we have to harry potter actors in the [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► same episode which I was kind of looking [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► forward to and they never gonna be the [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► same scene together just about very [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► little because i love i think to the [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► best characters in the harry potter [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► franchise are in fact the visitor easily [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► mr. Weasley and the on argus filch i [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► think is a great character in the book [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► he's a great actress the fellow who play [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that was it a Solomon in the episode [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► his name is david john bradley i have [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► looked up he reminded me of I anybody [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► remember that episode the most the most [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► toys that episode of The Star Trek The [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► Next Generation here this yeah well as a [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► daisy his page oh yes where data is [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► collected Solomon in this actually [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► reminded me of that character is a he's [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► a guy with a spaceship and he's really [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► just a thief and he's he has no [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► redeeming qualities and what's [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► interesting about this episode is that [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► in the end the doctor basically just [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► kills him which that when he's [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► completely defenseless and he's an awful [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► guy who's killed lots of people and [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► maybe even made the Silurians extinct [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► but a kind of a kind of extreme and [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► makes you wish for the days of you know [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► the doctor who was just so clever that [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► they could come up with the perfect the [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► perfect punishment that was worse than [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► death right in something or like to [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► something really appropriate that but [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► like that's something that's clever as [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► opposed to it was very crude we're [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► getting out of here in your debt as [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► opposed to the you know look he tries to [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► save dive Ross right over and over again [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► and you're like the average submitted [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► the dollar Alex that what they call the [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► inside the Daleks and that's despite [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► habitat yeah I and he won't save this [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► guy is just a voracious sort of pain in [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► the ass and killed that killed thousands [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► of civilians [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► Davros is responsible for you know [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► billions of deaths and whatever you're [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► like the threshold has changed when the [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► doctor just says all right we're gonna [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► touch this thing and we're gone and your [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► stock always expect the doctor to appeal [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► to the better angels of our nature and [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► in this he does for shoveling and and [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► honestly this is yes I this is actually [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► another russell t davies thing I wanted [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► to bring up where I feel like this this [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► whole mini season felt like the david [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► tennant specials era to me where these [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► standalone stories there's no real [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► ongoing plot its leading what's the only [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► ongoing plot is that you know it's [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► leading to a conclusion where actors [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► leave the show but otherwise not up if [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► there's not a real plot reason for it [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► which is unfortunate is very contrived [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► yeah otherwise we-we're just advancing [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► toward an ending and then in in the one [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► thing that was kind of interesting about [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► the the that era with the with david [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► tennant was that there was this whole [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► talk about how he was losing his [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► connection to humanity by not traveling [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► with a regular companion and so that [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► keeps coming up here except of course he [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► keeps traveling with amy and rory so it [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► kind of doesn't make any sense and yet [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► you have this whole it really which [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► seemed to insert it was like you must [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► always travel with someone or you're [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► gonna you're kind of losing it but I [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► never felt like it was real I felt that [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► it was just contrived it was not as well [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► executed as the david tennant era where [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► to me that it that contains that arc [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► contains one of the most just chillin [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► and depressing scenes in Doctor Who but [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► well executed which is the scene where [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► he rescues at alliant from Mars [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► oh yes back and she kills herself right [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► because he screwed over the timeline and [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► that that was effective that worked [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► it was really really wrenching to watch [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► that and especially that scene where he [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► realizes basically what he's done and [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► you don't get that emotional gravitas [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► here I wanted it I wanted to see it you [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► don't get it if you have a doctor just [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► have some missiles blow a guy up because [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► he doesn't like them [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► um it reduces it to the to the cartoon [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► hero yeah it used to do the thing where [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► like you said earlier find the [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► punishment it's worse than death what he [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► actually used to do is like the [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► equivalent of like the Time Lord shabbat [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► device where it's like well I can't kill [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► but by failing to act in this manner i [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► will and i will cause this lever to fall [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► over which will cause the oven to turn [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► on you know what I mean like he used to [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► do that which I thought was a cheat so [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► I'm glad to see him kill somebody but [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► like the man said that I know what they [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► were going for but they didn't get it [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► because he'd always traveling alone [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► off-camera and we didn't see that using [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► the companions are in part is shabbos [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► Coy's it [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► yeah well no they don't do the work for [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► me time to do those sometimes yeah [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► sometimes it's just it's just physics [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► that does the work for that's pretty [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► funny [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► I can't kill you but all these people [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► and travel with my or perhaps the random [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► circumstances of nature will be a shame [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► if something happened anyway I thought [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► this was i had enough if somebody who [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► wants to speak up for it but I i just i [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► do I this one will speak for the [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► dinosaur who will I mean no one they're [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► all dead [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► I like the print the fundamental premise [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► of lies a ship why is there a ship with [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► dinosaurs and there's like if there were [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► Silurians maybe they would take the the [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► extinct soon to be extinct races away [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► and and try to take them somewhere else [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► so that was kind of fun and interesting [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► and yet completely squandered on all of [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► this other junk [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► well I'm sort of PE i'm sort of ppl tell [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► you this is a metal thing without [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► talking another episode yet is I'm sort [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► of peeved about how many great concepts [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► that were this season that just were [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► pissed away basically and this is one of [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► them you're like okay we have the slurry [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► and set we have the doctor saying I've [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► never had a gang before going to try [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► again you're like okay you know you're [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► right there's rarely a time except that [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► season enters got a bunch of people it's [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► a silly premise you know it they [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► actually sort of sold it because we've [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► seen the Silurians multiple times we [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► know they come back they know [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► resuscitate on earth at some point from [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► last season of the season before really [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► where we know they live will cohabitate [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► with humans and blah blah we know all [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► the Silurians recurring element of the [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► universe and he's like oh well we found [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► a bad cube this is also one of the first [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► Doctor Who's I remember where they can [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► talk to a computer it does things they [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► want it to [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► it seemed very Star Trek I'm not what we [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► call any episode in which they have to [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► do some weird hand waving like computer [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► where are things here they are [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► what happened there are a couple of [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► using i did i was amused by the Amy like [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► wasn't in that scene where she likes [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► starts typing on the computer like well [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► everything the doctor to start pressing [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► buttons until it happen [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► I mean there there were there are a [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► couple of reading lines here in there [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► and stuff like that [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► yeah amy was used effectively because [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► this is the episode where he was like I [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► know how to do this now and that was [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► that was again if there's a story arc [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► here it's the fact that amy has now been [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► travelling with the doctor so long that [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► she can do his job which is very much [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► like sort of how Rose ended up at the [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► end before she left and and that's kind [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► of a rite of passage almost like once [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► once you're no longer really the [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► companion you're actually being the [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► doctor it's time for you to go because [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► there's you know that that's the end you [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► you've progressed all the way and and [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► that was good because she's very capable [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► she she's able to do you know to do [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► everything and tap into the computer and [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► do every everything she needs to do i [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► should also say that mitchell and webb [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► the great comedy team is harder wandered [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► here in this ridiculous like robots who [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► are like robot children robot babysitter [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► children things it was it's really [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► disappointing second the Doctor Who [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► universe needs to invest in better [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► robotic design because every robot we [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► meet is just completely worthless [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► yeah I guess that's the the overall [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► overarching message of Doctor Who which [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► is robots are our rubbish they also i [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► think they lost the opportunity to do [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► some dress park stuff they have the [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► Raptors comments like let's get some [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► guns and shoot at them and will be 500 [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► for no reason we're standing here [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► fending off like eight of them or [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► whatever it was just like whatever yeah [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► no it'sit's um I I think Moffat a flaw [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► and you know you're gonna have a flaw I [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► guess having a flower you where you try [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► to stuff way too many ideas in an [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► episode I guess is not the worst flaw [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► you could have but I feel that again and [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► again that he takes these you know it [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► it's almost like he's just got to his to [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► again to his credit he's got like a [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► giant that of ideas and and there's a [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► tube that runs out of the VAT and he's [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► got a spray gun and he just sprays the [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► ideas and this episode was written by [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► Martha but it has that same feel of like [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► I i will likely written I feel like his [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► style I feel like his style encourages [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► this spray guns just batter of ideas and [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► and and David dinosaurs on a spaceship [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► again full of ideas [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► none of them really hanging together and [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► none of them fully realized that the one [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► thing i did like was the Compendium that [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► Solomon had [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► which was the value of everything in [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► time and space that sort of useful like [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► a you know a comic-book god it's like oh [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► I found another 40 well she's with the [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► firm at our take her own then and that [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► was of course just a an excuse to have [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► it scanned the doctor and he's not in it [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► and it all he's deleted himself from all [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► the databases shocking [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► alright well there it is so we move on [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► these yes [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► yeah okay so let's talk about the [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► Western I kind of like parts of it maybe [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► that's cuz I'm a sucker for westerns I'm [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► again the plot stuff is kind of I mean [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► this is going to be a recurring theme [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► where sometimes that the redeeming [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► things in it or not the plot [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► yeah that has been the to the case for [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► the entire season is no theme of Doctor [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► Who the show could be yeah but they've [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► gotten away with it better before you [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► keep to you keep telling me that every [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► time I complain about the plot like well [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► doctor who isn't really about your blog [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► and also because those times you can get [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► away with that there's time where it's [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► an awkwardly detrimental in here i think [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► for my my part my problem here was just [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► that this one felt way too predictable [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► like you can kind of figure out where [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► the whole thing was going with the [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► doctor in about five minutes right like [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► oh he's he did something terrible right [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► and now he's here to do a tone matter at [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► least it had many had that old star trek [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► feel in the sense that was trying to [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► come up with a real moral quandary where [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► you know you said you need to save this [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► guy but he's actually criminal and you [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► can save the village by turning him in [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► and having him die but you know you sort [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► of you can't do that you need to you you [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► need to be better than that and that [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► accepted it all got kind of messy and [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► ben browder who is great yeah the wasted [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► again another wasted actor he was great [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► in that little bit was great and then he [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► sacrifices himself and then the guy ends [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► up killing himself at the end anyway so [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► why did he even bother [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► why didn't the guy just let him just ah [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► you know I gotta say the plot this [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► doctor who episode was so it was just [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► very thin in that the guy wasn't really [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► threatening the town like you didn't [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► feel like it felt like the cyborgs gonna [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► get this guy kill him and you're done [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► and the town will be fine and there was [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► no sense that there was a menace beyond [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► that which is what makes science fiction [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► great we're like oh we're going to feed [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► the Virgin's the volcano in the volcano [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► will erupt [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► oh no the volcanoes talking Iraq [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► you guys made the wrong moral choice and [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► now you're gonna pay for it like no no [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► if you make the right royal choice here [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► you'll be fine just move on the with [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► that you'll get past it and that could [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► have been done better because they do [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► have that moment where like you know the [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► the sideboard goes into the church and [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► everyone's like no it's gonna kill us [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► and it's like now in these people are [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► the people i'm looking for like you're [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► like he said he was gonna kill them all [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► and he doesn't let the hell yeah it [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► yeah but the Renee but we kind of knew [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► that we already knew that was gonna [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► happen in some way like i don't think [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► anybody was genuinely scared he was this [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► sad cyborg a sense of I mean like I [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► think but i think i love that I love the [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► production design of it [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► yes I mean I like the look of it again [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► there are some great scenes in a couple [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► great interactions ben browder is [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► another great like you know guests are [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► that they again waste but like there's [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► all it everything he keeps putting all [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► these ingredients into a bowl and mixing [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► up my god yeah that looks good that's [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► going in all that was good that going in [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► and it comes out well with like a pile [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► of blah [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► it's disappointing and a spaceship [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► shaped like an egg yeah they ran out of [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► money on that space oh my god it's like [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► generic uh had Jonathan winters in here [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► this whole thing where he's chasing the [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► isaac character the sheriff and Rory [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► right and his displayed as the arnold [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► schwarzenegger has no percentage chance [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► at happiness and life is 34 whatever you [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► know retreat and then the next moment [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► he's out trying to shoot and kill them [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► and then he's called off by something [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► else and then there's the rocks you're [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► like why not just set up like we know [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► which we want to be any collateral [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► damage and so is he has overrides of [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► innocence or spare but he managed to [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► work around its programming so I as the [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► his creator is no longer innocent even [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► though we're not at war i mean one line [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► instead is like those rocks we can't [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► sleep over the rocks now we can step [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► over the rocks but with rocks that we [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► don't know but he could somebody who it [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► was he set up that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► ya found ya but which still doesn't make [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► any sense I don't understand why I mean [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► there's definitely can't just walk in [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► right he should have just walked he is a [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► cyborg designed to kill people i don't [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► understand why he doesn't just walk into [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► the town [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► no one's gonna stop it was bad about it [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► and shoot the guy but that that that [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► could have been so good though is the [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► thing like there could have been such a [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► thing where you have like the town like [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► you know oh we're going to surround this [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► guy with innocent people [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► yeah because we believe like that to me [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► would have been much more compelling is [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► if they actually had you know some sort [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► of reason why he would not like go and [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► do this the place aren't important per [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► se right they often it's the it's the [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► show is fun to watch and the plots are [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► mechanism to watch the sort of fun [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► interaction more so than is really [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► paying close attention the plot but when [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► you I i stopped playing a pinch of the [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► plot and I ignored or something silly if [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► it's consistent and well-constructed [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► it's a machinery that grinds away and [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► surprises me at times with a certain [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► kind of unexpected moral dilemma or [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► other no scientific thing comes up this [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► interesting the problem this season [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► including this episode is there's too [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► much time with the gears grind together [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► you're like oh come on i don't want to [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► care about that you're making me care [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► about that you got a plot that's even [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► not serviceable is the problem right if [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► the plot is serviceable you can get away [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► with it but I in the cases where is [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► actively being like now wait why is no [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► you get you get the shovel where plot [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► where we're really there's so much snow [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► shoveled into the plot that they don't [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► it doesn't actually lineup or connector [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► makes sense but there's a lot of it and [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► I think it's dropped beneath all of our [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► siracusa thresholds you know it's like [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► maybe John just does this all the time [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► and like now it's a point of the final [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► fantasy you know when I have been when [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► they have the ark seasons were like you [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► know the first season with matt smith [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► there was an ark to that season right [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► with on the ark ones that the reason i'm [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► able to get and stay engaged with those [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► despite the ridiculous possibly have [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► something to hold onto like old is a [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► narc they're like they're trying to say [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► is the girl who waited and this thing [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► going on to something with the TARDIS [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► and then this little Pete explore piece [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► of in the cracks like that's silly but [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► it draws you through the season and then [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► you can kind of push the stuff out but [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► the season had no arc so all you're left [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► with is that other stuff that you used [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► to ignore while you concentrate on at [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► least I used to ignore what I [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► concentrate on the ark stuff because if [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► you think about their plots their [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► nonsensical another they undercut [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► themselves because he deliberately set [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► out to make the standalone season in [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► some ways by taking out all the stuff [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► that alludes to the arc they have like [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► probably like 5-10 minutes of extra time [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► in every episode just like this before [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► but up in there to make their nobody's [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► missing anything you can do stay good [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► standalone episodes i mean their whole [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► shows based on good standing out you [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► know there's no reason we can't do like [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► blink was basically a standalone [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► episodes like me there's no reason you [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► can't do it well agree they read it [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► didn't know that's that's what's [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► frustrating as they set out to do a [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► season without an arc except for us [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► knowing that this was the last season [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► with the companions and they wound up [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► it's like I think they just let the [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► plant machinery is so clunky it you do [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► get the sense that the you know again [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► and I i could take us back to Russell [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► Davis because he used to make these [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► pronouncements all the time during his [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► seasons which was you know you have this [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► tendency toward the high concept and [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► it's like well the kids will be playing [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► on the schoolyard like okay that's fine [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► uh done well the adults will enjoy it [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► and the kids will enjoy it too i have no [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► doubt that you know the kids in England [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► were doing more Cowboys stuff after the [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► cowboy episode aired and talking about [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► dinosaurs and space ships after that [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► episode aired that's fine as it goes but [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► what else is there and you know in this [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► in this episode there was an attempt [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► there's something inside this episode [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► about mercy right town called mercy and [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► about how you know in opposition to the [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► dinosaur episode that's it there's that [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► there's this attempt to do this moral [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► quandary about you protect this guy [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► who's not innocent but you've given him [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► your word that you'll protect him and [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► can somebody be changed and can somebody [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► be redeemed [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► ok that's in there but it's executed so [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► poorly and in the end it's completely [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► messed up because he just leaves to go [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► back to his little oval spaceship and [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► kill himself and you know it's just ok [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► all the parts are here to do a good [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► story and then it just falls apart it's [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► it straight well here's the thing that [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► kills me to is I thought there was great [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► the jail tops conversation between Jax [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► and the doctor is actually quite [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► wonderful with Jackson sort of almost [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► teasing him almost saying like look you [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► know and I expect the doctors say no I [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► have that quandary and my quandary was [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► instead of creating killing machines i [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► became the killing machine [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► I am that cyborg I killed everyone in my [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► race and entire the race and still [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► living with that and I had to do it [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► again and then I had to kill that race [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► again and again and again so I've been [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► where you are and so how does he have a [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► moral superiority I thought that's it [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► felt like they forgot the entire [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► mythology of it just like an asylum of [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► the daleks where they forgot that a [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► memory had a child in this case you [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► forgot it's like the doctor killed [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► everyone and he became that killer in [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► order to prevent the universe will be [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► destroyed he already made the moral [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► choice and he's not engaging a minute [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► you're [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► company just felt lazy to have that in [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► front of us you know those school kids [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► in the playground [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► I'd I don't think any school kids are [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► playing anybody from this episode and I [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► keep school kids more credit miss I mean [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► like there are their episodes where it's [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► a credit episode the plot makes no sense [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► but there's one character that piques [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► your interest in that character has [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► sparked there's no characters what [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► sparked the doctor didn't have that [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► stupid robot guy didn't have it like [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► there's no equivalent of like textin my [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► son was intrigued by the robot cowboy i [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► have to say that because you know robot [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► cowboy coming through and say he know he [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► was he was he was like oh always like [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► the robot cowboy [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► so I think there maybe is a little bit [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► but it's on that super simple level of [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► like what if they were a robot cowboy ok [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► how about a story about the road bike [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► and no no we don't have a story but we [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► do have a robot you have a row between a [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► cyborg we're going to put a hat on him [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► will not wear my cowboy for new list [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► that's true and that once again not a [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► very good [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► cyborg cowboy no nobody and then for the [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► last 20 minutes you know that he's gonna [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► end up being the sheriff of the town [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► right yeah [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► yes and I I don't even think they [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► executed that very well [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► no it's like it's like okay so you're [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► you're implacable your implacable hatred [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► is now gone because everyone you try to [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► kill is dead [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► what do you guys like I don't know water [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► the desert and blow myself up I have an [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► idea [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► this County the sheriff ok ok I killed [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► the last one and then surely Charles [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► surely trusted after you almost killed [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► all of them i'm sure they'll be happy to [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► welcome with open arms [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► no one will ever question why there's a [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► robotic a sheriff [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► some say he waters those hills even now [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► fightin crime scan and face tattoos 11 [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► stuff wearing terrible special effects [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► on his body battling coyotes uh actually [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► that's did the increase in tattoos and [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► popular culture in the in the thousands [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► caused a series of terrible accidents [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► where the robot chair had to kill [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► innocent they were going to burning man [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► they just were passing through but no [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► yeah all right let's uh let's move on to [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► the power of three the cube episode I [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► you know what I'm gonna speak of in [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► defense of this one I like the QB too i [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► think i think it was the best episode of [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► The Seagull wow you like all of it from [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► until the very [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► and I like the cube not all of it not [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► all of it I thought again the plot part [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► again there's two thirds what makes it [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► good is that they're actually characters [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► in this one [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► yeah exactly it's interesting all the [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► stuff with Rory and Amy and like having [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► their other life and going back and [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► forth and there's all these cubes [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► showing up and everyone's like I don't [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► know that's weird like I i like that [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► setup like all of that was interesting [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► it was funny to see Amy and Rory [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► bouncing between their real life and [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► their life with the doctor it was funny [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► when the doctor had to come and hang out [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► with him for a while we just got so [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► bored you know and I mean it was an [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► interesting dynamic you know the doctor [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► almost comes off as like this is an [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► increasing thing where the doctor comes [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► up is like their kid you know a certain [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► extent because you have them as the [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► parent figures almost is their [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► son-in-law let me ask this [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► let me ask this how many people liked [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► the first like eighty percent us episode [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► everyone liked it yeah yeah yeah it's [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► ridiculous the game into cubes actually [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► open yeah but it's the end it's like [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► running out within the pulp fiction [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► suitcase it's like now that's not [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► important it's not a problem with [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► finding out what's in that black you so [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► like dan I will defend this episode and [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► I but but first i will say the last 20 [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► minutes or so is ridiculous you hit [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► literally the doctor goes up to a [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► spaceship that was there before but we [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► never saw it and then he takes a sonic [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► screwdriver out and goes boot and it [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► solves the plot and that's it right so [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► that that's ridiculous but I liked this [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► episode because of the amy and rory [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► stuff because of the idea of what what [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► what's happening in a companions life [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► and it's out of sync there there's some [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► nice stuff in here about how they keep [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► aging but they keep coming back to where [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► they began to their friends are starting [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► to wonder why they looked older and [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► they're sort of the doctor there's some [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► some kind of larger flavored stuff where [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► the doctors trying to understand human [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► regular life and he and he can't and and [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► then the the alien invasion itself is so [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► weird and awesome and kind of like a [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► like unimportant but just as below the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► radar it's like obvious that it's [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► happening and yet nobody cares and that [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► the cubes end up being used as flower [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► pots and things like that i mean well [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► and that's a really impress is the idea [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► of like this is a plant that has been [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► invaded so many times right everybody so [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► boring that nobody cares like see how we [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► can see I mean that's a great setup [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► they're playing the longest the [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► his greatest aliens playing the long [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► game it's like sleeper cells while they [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► bring in you bring Brian's dad back [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► again i love that he's watching the Q [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► yeah Q tired time it's day 3 22 no cubed [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► us far but he's so earnest that's what's [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► great about him as a character they [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► should've left the cubes around that's [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► what they should have done is like the [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► end of this episode okay I'll should [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► have ended with no with no resolution [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► that would speculation because they then [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you can bring it back which is totally a [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► doctor who thing to do would have been [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► impossible cell but i agree would have [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► been great [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► I kind of like it right for this tended [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► and there was no alien invasion [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► there's no resolution that would be kind [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► of cool or an alien spaceship that is [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► like I'd like that UPS of space comment [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► like and I did you find our missing [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► cubes because we like lost those but [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► they didn't even squandered this one [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► because like anything remotely hard [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► sci-fi thing that little cubes come down [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► and then you know they are inexplicable [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► whatever you you would have people like [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► we're trying to cut into it we blew it [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► up with a nuclear bomb we tried to crush [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► it we cooked it you are doing little [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► unit units doing that [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► yeah you don't like it the in an episode [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► where inexplicable cubes come down you [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► have to like that's one of the things [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► one of the directions you can go as [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► someone for you and you can just say if [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► I'm were ignoring it someone else is [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► feeling that were not but when the [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► doctor is there shouldn't he be like [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► examining the cubes in some way other [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► than looking at it like hit his level of [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► Investigation is similar to Rory's dad I [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► took it as being that the doctor was was [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► actually I didn't think that any of the [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► investigation was necessary he was like [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► look all we need to do is wait around [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► and they'll do something eventually [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► they'll try to kill him then we'll [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► figure it out its gonna grab a jacket [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► strangle that that's a very Doctor Who [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► strategy i think is a look I'm the main [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► character here I i regenerate and I'm [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► protected by the plot so I figured out [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► why I've got a magic wand right here [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► that I will wave and solve it [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► so let's just wait and see what happens [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► right and it's like Oh what happens is [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► disappointment I like that little aside [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► where they're at the the anniversary [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► party and then he dragged them away you [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► know and they come back [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► how long were they got seven weeks you [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► know like they've gone off and they have [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► a little montage of the the various [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► adventures like I was I don't know [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► there's a big alien spaceship underneath [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► the Savoy Hotel in the frame it you feel [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► like you'd rather watch those episodes [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► sometimes though like they go off on [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► those ones they do it they show one [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► other senior like [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► oh you would rather watch that episode [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► but yeah but you know if they executed [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► that it would be better for 130 years [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► population is going to be a heart attack [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► because house so terrible was like [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► however they said that they were dead [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► they were dead for like an hour and they [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► all suffered terrible Terry behind [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► five-part they got me that part out that [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► i was like i was i was texting James [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► could have gotten away with that over [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► there was like two yeah like 3 34 [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► seconds yet lag time Jason they were [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► dead the brand so it's so it's so bad [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► the area and yet i'll defend this [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► episode because again it ended stupidly [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► was going to I really enjoyed it up to [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► that point I because i love the [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► character stuff and it was founded [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► charming and and like to John's point [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► from earlier which is well if you don't [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► have the plot what is left and the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► answer is in many of these episodes not [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► much but in this 1i i found it into this [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► was to me actually this was the great [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► use of Amy and Rory and Rory's dad and I [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► wish there had been more of that this [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► season because I felt like that you fit [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► for this little 5 episode block that [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► sort of about saying goodbye to Amy and [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► Rory there could have been more of that [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► and in fact in some ways this is the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► episode that makes me feel like you know [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► sad to say goodbye the amy and read more [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► than their final episode because this is [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► I would have actually been happy if this [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► had been their final episode and a [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► resolution had been we're too old for [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► this crap [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► yeah we'll stay they made a choice right [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► like and i love that the ending the [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► actually was good with his father [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► yeah so what happens you know what [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► happens everybody else travels with you [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► and then later on the whole you know [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► take care of them because they're not [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► gonna give you up you know that to me [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► was more had more of that like emotional [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► impact yeah he had to be honest as they [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► said you know what happens is that thing [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► and you're like you think about how many [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► campaigns that have been like 20 or 30 [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► over the seasons and you like some are [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► lost some are you know go on with their [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► lives i'm projecting leave in a few of [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► them died like yeah i mean the ones that [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► is one that don't die don't remember [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► because most of them but some of them [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► wind up for getting me your brain erased [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► another dimension [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► he's got multiple different dimensions [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► so let's talk about the angels take [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► manhattan which is the the big capital [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► angels take manhattan please [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► and a little group and the Daleks take [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► staten island haha uh this is the big [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► farewell where the weeping angels come [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► back and there's a new york city and a [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► modern-day very briefly and then we're [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► back to thirties New York what is our [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► the British obsessed with thirties and [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► somebody else I know Scott math naughty [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► but you wrote this episode didn't use [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► gotta admit I i wrote parts of it and [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► you guess which parts there are a lot of [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► british actor lot of British actors you [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► want to try it out a hard-boiled [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► detective accident as well or poorly as [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► they can [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► I've got the better be soon as the [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► narration came out of like that's a [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► British person doing a really bad New [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► York acts I know these solar was [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► now Mike machine by the way my Christian [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► Americans are available actually [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► America's American he was a terrific 11 [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► he's an old improv comedian who's on [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► whose line is it anyway the British run [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► of it and I was in The Groundlings and [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► I've seen some terrible films and I [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► thought he was fabulous i wanted to see [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► much large guy the ritual that mobster [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► it was the monster got it right i wanted [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► to understand what is point was like the [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► idea was he like the tool of the Angels [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► like the pond at the Angels Florida and [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► sunnah remote so he was he was a [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► collector much like once again kiss pho [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► and he wanted to get the ball back to [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► anything angel Zach for some reason and [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► then they being angels can't break down [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► doors [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► well that's probably not because if you [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► were smart as a lot of locked doors have [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► an I max but what does that even have to [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► do with the whole like battery far I [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► I don't know sherry I again I was so [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► angry [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► how did they feed those people for 40 [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► years in the hotel room service [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► yesterday i'm very good room service is [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► close your eyes were coming in with your [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► food [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► close your eyes the food appears it's a [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► core of interesting ideas here right [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► there's this there's that there's the [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► the book thing which is played more for [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► Laughs actually than 40 the book is [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► telling us our future there was a little [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► bit more that i like the idea that the [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► Angels if we got this premise of the [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► angel send people back in time and they [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► feed on the time energy we got that from [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► blink so yeah I like the idea that the [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► Angels have created a place that they [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► didn't stores entirely without you ever [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► but you're right the whole idea should [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► be that the Angels just sent him back in [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► time but this like well now they cheat [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► they send you back in time and then they [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► go find you back in time they send you [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► further back and then may you just kind [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► of loop around and you know it was iight [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► like someone pointed out in the image am [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► just now it's the matrix right that's [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► what bothers me about it is like I've [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► seen that plot device three or four [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► times right like in the last what's the [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► corridors look like the matrix to write [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► it looks actually like we're neo gets [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► his powers and and but I mean it takes [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► me we know it is making logical sense [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► you send them back once maybe something [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► back further there's a point when the [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► building doesn't exist and then why do [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► you take care of them for 40 years until [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► they die you kill them at that point [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► they're not nice Psychopaths they're [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► Psychopaths so it didn't make it's like [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► you need to feed off the energy as they [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► grow older the whole body that's part of [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► it in a plot point that wasn't added i [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► don't know well and it makes them seem [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► more scheming and I think they're more [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► threatening is just sort of this or Ajax [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► exam and that's scarier and like the [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► fact that they're like haha now we are [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► even planning things like we have having [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► charities that will get you blah i mean [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► those were created because those were [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► not scary this fat little kids that they [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► made they I think couldn't help they [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► were trying to plan for last or not but [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► they're not they're not scary look that [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► one scene with the repose of the match [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► that was pretty good i like your credit [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► and here's the thing to the episode [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► drove me insane i watched it twice [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► because i want to see if maybe of we [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► were looking for the cause all these [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► beside this is what drove me German [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► attributed insane and it's my god i yes [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► your room service will be there soon [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► going ok we're done and actually only 15 [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► or something so the thing that drove me [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► crazy episode is the invention the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► invention of rules that govern the [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► entire universe that we've never been [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► told about in the entire can of the show [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► and the doctors center space toppings [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► that are I know but this is this is [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► ridiculous like if you read something or [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► you see a gravestone now it is immutable [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► and they're fixed points in time which [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► has any we've seen things change the [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► gravestone in fact changes when Amy goes [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► back into the episode it's it's absurd [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► energy specialist haha but time can be [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► rewritten to which he says yeah I except [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► sometimes not [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► yeah exactly what I'm just like why not [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► go back to the TARDIS and try to save if [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► you read ahead it doesn't suddenly you [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► can't fix anything even things that [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► aren't that means everything ever [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► written in the history book can't be [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► changed because people read it except [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► dr. you change those things are [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► sometimes cause them all the time so it [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► irritated the heck out of me that they [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► did that they even changed the rules for [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► the angels to like the one thing that [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► would be the one episode that we like we [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► all like blink and I said well guess [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► what we're gonna change the angel rules [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► and angels used to be anyone is looking [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► at them they can attack the new rule is [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► if you're not looking at them they can [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► attack you but other people can be [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► looking at them which makes no sense [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► w-wait know even if they framed [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► incredibly carefully i watch the second [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► time because i thought they were doing [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► that and it's what they're what they're [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► maintaining is that is that you it is [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► like when the NEC name is blocking the [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► line of sight to the eyes for the angels [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► she's not blocking that line of sight [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► she is they set up the stage they're [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► very carefully it's but here's a here's [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► the 1 refrigeration to that the Statue [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► of Liberty along yes sir yeah I don't [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► know but but if it's got this [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► it's hip tellers nobody noticed pose if [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► that's not because it goes boom baby [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► won't stop looking at the table i look [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► at it and it doesn't move any incredible [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► they're looking to each other's eyes and [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► the Statue of Liberty's like I'll just [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► stay here because i don't have that we [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► don't have the budget to move me anymore [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► so this is it i'm gonna set [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► I can't move anymore also that was a [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► plot device that had no point while they [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► wanted they wanted to say wouldn't it be [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► neat of the statuary was an [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► yesterday it was an idea right like [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► again it's a premise that has like it [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► doesn't deliver but i wanted to say the [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► about the point of Glen earlier I what [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► bothered me was the will full changing [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► of the characters to make them act in [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► ways that were out of character because [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► we know they had to end up leaving [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► because when the doctors like come back [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► to the TARDIS will figure this out there [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► is no way Amy would be like oh yeah you [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► know what I'm just going to commit [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► suicide instead instead of oh you know [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► what that's great let's go back to the [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► TARDIS and figure this out because that [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► is what Amy Pond done right like it [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► it only makes sense if you think well [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► she's leaving the show so of course [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► she's gotta be something I contract [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► running out this sheet its a cheat to [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► have it try and pull emotional heart [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► strings that don't work because it's [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► clearly achieved clearly the you know [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► and I think we all saw this coming right [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► that when we heard that the Angels going [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► to be in the last episode with amy and [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► rory my immediate thought was they're [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► going to send them back in time that's [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► ever gonna send Rory back in time [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► because we always dies or something [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► right at least at least they had a joke [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► about that this time I gave them a [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► thumbs up for that so so we all knew [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► that that I think or guessed that this [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► would be the way and that's how this [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► episode felt like we had the idea which [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► is I want to send Rory back in time and [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► then Amy makes a choice to be with him [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and that's the end of their trip and [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► everything else is predicated on that [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► but everything else is we have to find a [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► way we'll wait we can't say that once [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► you sent back in time you can travel in [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► time anymore because the doctor and [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Martha get the TARDIS impact in 1969 and [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► then they travel in time so let's come [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► up with a you know a time some sort of [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► time locked premise and everything [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► seemed to be reverse engineered to get [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► to the desired result kinda like the [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► cyborg becoming the sheriff right and [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► none of it felt natural and that that [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► the rules of the of the angels were [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► actually being subverted in order to get [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► I to the destination it means I you know [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► I thought that the the end of the [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► emotional impact of the scene on the [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► rooftop with amy and rory and we're [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► being willing to jump off the building [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► and take the chance as he didn't want to [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► be locked in that room is always willing [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► to kill himself come on that's growing [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► life I thought that was a nice i thought [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► that was a nice is you and I thought [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► some of the shots of the of the Angels [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► chasing people in the lights blinking [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► all that work active but as the story [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► it's just like a [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► complete mess because they just they [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► know where they want to go and then it's [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► just a matter of back packing up to go [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► out there and we know where they want to [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► go when they find when you find out he's [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► been torturing the angel to see if it [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► can hurt whatever that means the mob [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► boss you get that and I'm thinking oh so [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► the setup is there's a woman and a child [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► across the street the statues across [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► street that are watching your like [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► they're going to actually humanize the [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► angels are gonna make this not be you [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► know more applicable black rebel forces [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► of nature there's gonna be there's gonna [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► be negotiation the doctors going to [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► negotiate because this is actually he's [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► watching them scream right you know that [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► that's what River says no they're [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► screaming you know the others can hear [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► him and I thought well here's where you [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► get this [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► these aren't just like you know yes [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► they're predators but we're going to go [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► deeper than that and then now this is [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► squandered also yeah well I were writing [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► this episode I would have had because i [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► did like when Amy and Rory jumped off [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► the building but then i would have had [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► them just died there and the paradox [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► just didn't work boots [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► yeah yeah that would have been really i [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► thought about that I wondered if that [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► was how they're going to get out of a [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► bummer was like that seems too dark [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► even for this show but it would have [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► been better it would've been more [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► effective [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► I thought the whole setup at the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► beginning suck to like the whole private [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► I wanted it to be kind of more [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► interesting but it was just there for a [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► you know is that one good part of the [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► show and see I know what I'm gonna pick [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► to write if someone took one good part [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► of the show up with your pic of this [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► episode or is it people say there's none [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► the scene where Rory goes to get coffee [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► haha the river dr interaction and then [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the risk breaking thing out so at least [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► one person picker same thing is going to [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► pick the same thing I like River Song [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► breaking her on rest to get anything [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► Heidi if you yeah that's good then I [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► realized like that i like the idea of [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► what if an angel grabs you by the wrist [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► what the heck do you do then I mean that [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► whole that whole bit was good i like [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► seeing on the rooftop i like i like that [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► little that that was like that the [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► farewell the actual farewell to Rory [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► where he go ahead Glenn enumerator [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► old-time arias die thank you i made a [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► list of curiosity and so you how we [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► tried twice [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► how many times is where he died and I [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► count nine or ten so mrs. pocket kills [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► him in Amy's choice which is a dream [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► the doctor blows up the TARDIS name is [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► tres which is a dream [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► he's actually shot by race trac silurian [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► in cold blood as really killed but then [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► this is where I say you know this is an [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► additional one he's also and then raced [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► for AC unit of track right so don't know [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► that doesn't count twice but it's sort [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► of like another kind of death it's a 24 [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► he's shot by canton day of the Moon [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► which is faked he's drowned in the curse [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► of the black spot and then revived [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that's real [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► yeah he's found is a skeleton by amy and [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► the doctor's wife which was an illusion [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► eat then this is the best part he dies [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► of old age and angels take manhattan [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► then he jumps off a building angels take [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► manhattan baby dies of old age Nichols [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► take manhattan but it's one of those [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► real twice or well he dies twice twice a [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► real it was such a crappy scene and when [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► they come back and then like an angel [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► pops out because it's about that there [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► to kill it at the back of town [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► what that's so stupid i was expecting [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► the last but I want to see the doctor [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► actually take out the sonic screwdriver [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► and have the angel crack in a million [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► pieces because he's so angry [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► that's the doctor does he quits genocide [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► when he's angry and he didn't commit [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► genocide when you think of these as I [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► don't tell me kill species her bag [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► well i thought i did I got a little [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► misty-eyed at the last part there [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► because as so Amy of course throughout [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► this whole time when Amy and Rory are [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► together you always think well she loves [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► Rory but she really loves the doctor and [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► at this point she makes a choice and she [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► chooses Rory which I thought was very [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► touching because you find your last [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► season and I what they've also they've [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► done a couple more times with this is [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► like the final 11 assume so he's married [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► to keep reading you were already married [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► to her daughter [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► I mean I don't they and they never were [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► quite able to escape that Spectre I [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► think of its the doctor and a femaie [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► attractive female companion and clearly [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► there you know it's going to be and [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► sparks sparks will fly he goes back on [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► the ship pieces oh I'm sure that your [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► parents and they're dead i forgot you're [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► like a palace does he say almost those [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► exact words but then also when when Amy [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► and Rory jump off the building the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► doctor yells after Amy he doesn't care [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► about road and yeah and I thought that [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► was a really good moment because you [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► think well that's kinda he's a jerk [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► really cares about himself you know the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► rooftop the sexual liberties [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► side eye the rooftop scene i was [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► disappointed that the rooftop scene was [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► not the final scene that that right that [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► we had they had to do the well and we do [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► this magic thing and then everything is [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► fine and all the angels defeated yay [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► only it's not a and i would rather that [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► benefit that they they jump and the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► whole thing goes kablooey and they end [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► up still being in the thirties and for [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► some reason they can't you know that's [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► the end and they can't move anymore but [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► instead they come forward and then [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► there's that random angel in the [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► graveyard and more even if they had this [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► then thrown it back to the previous [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► episode where it's like they come back [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► and you know if they had developed a [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► theme throughout the entire thing where [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► it's like you know what maybe maybe when [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► it's time for us to stop traveling and [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► then you know it gets too close right [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► the end is like that's it that's too [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► close you know we've got to go back to [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► our to our real wife like even that [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► would have been perfect river says river [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► points out she's gonna vortex [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► manipulator they can cut through time [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► without it being a problem and they [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► don't use it and also you have Captain [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► Jack Harkness in that time he's got a [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► vortex manipulator doesn't work and [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► river can still go visit them right just [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► a doctor who can tell what why can't the [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► doctor so the doctor can't go to that [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► time period that already can't go to New [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► York because can you just take the topic [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► autonomous to like Staten Island and [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► then take the ferry no one no one wants [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► to communicate in from jersey or Staten [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► Island come on [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► I was like if you can't go in 1938 go in [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► like nineteen forty-two I mean it's [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► still there they waited before [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► yeah was there are five year difference [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► in their ages because I thought that [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► they'd agree on pages on a gravestone [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► were like oh she missed my couple years [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► but she waited five years like that [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► would be the better way to end it is to [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► show them you know just leave because [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► women live longer [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► yeah figured that's what that was Angelo [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► they may who knows what the real wages [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► were right because they've been aging [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► and out i can try to figure that a few [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► times because if your time traveler how [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► do you even keep track of what your real [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► age Israeli gravestones have your age on [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► them instead of the years of your life [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► well TV gravestones going here so that [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► ah yeah it was i was disappointed the [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► episode and there were some things about [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► that i like but it just felt like [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► overstuffed and over trying to create a [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► super dramatic ending and i will [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► actually would have preferred something [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► along the lines of the power of three [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► that was a little quieter [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► and uh and just I does every severing of [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► the doctor and his companions have to be [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► this operatic exercise i mean i guess [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► the point of this season was that [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► they've tried to slowly step away and [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► they just can't do it but I feel like a [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► much more adult and reasonable thing for [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► Amy and Rory to do this married couple [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► who is travelling with the doctor which [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► is a rarity right would be for them to [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► say you know what its we're done [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► we've seen it but we need to get on with [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► our lives I think they they can't do [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► that though [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► more to the point what would have made [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► more sense about that is that this [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► entire the entire Amy doctor thing is a [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► fairytale and like basically the end you [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► get like the peter pan thing right like [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► I think the nice thing at the end would [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► be like it's time for them to grow up [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► and have a real life like that would [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► have been the way out and that would [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► have worked so well with the last scene [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► where he goes back and and there's that [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► scene from Amy's first episode where [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► young Amelia sitting in her backyard [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► with her suitcase in the morning and she [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► looks and she looks up as if to as if [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► she can hear the TARDIS and then in the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► 11th hour it cuts to a grownup eh but [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► did he actually go back to configure how [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► to know the implication in this episode [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► is that he goes back and and tells her [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► that while she's waiting that she's [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► gonna have some great adventures in [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► future entire timeline [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► no i don't i don't think it necessarily [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► does because i believe mom that actually [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► was planning that from the beginning but [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► um but a it's it's sweet right but but [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► you're right then that that would be the [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► way to do is like it's time to grow up [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► were married you know we've got our [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► lovely house with a blue door that you [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► bought that you got for us somehow at [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► you know and and let's move on does it [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► need to be like like with every other [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► companion this kind of horrible operatic [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► you know high high concept [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► goodbye I i we got that with Martha [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► Martha Martha essentially did that and [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► Martin yeah [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► the sarah jane send-off in the david [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► tennant you know the sort of last rounds [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► I mean she you know she had her life and [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► he was saying goodbye to her and she had [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► kind of gone on you know shouldn't come [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► back with him but they reconnected then [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► this appears we've gotten some of that [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► but i think the problem is that when [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► usually when the something selfless has [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► to happen for the for the companion to [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► be killed or disappear and it didn't [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► happen here was like a mistake it was [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► like an air of the doctor screwed up and [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► let an angel slept through or whatever [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► and so they didn't have which they [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► didn't do this to save the world induce [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► that the throwing themselves at the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► building saved all those people and [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► maybe destroyed the Angels nexus and God [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► knows what's important there but this [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► one they're like oh it was a mistake and [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► now we're both gone [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► yeah I say a few words about angels [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► before we go yes please [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► so the first thing is that i think the [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► Angels have become the new Daleks which [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► is disappointing it used to be whenever [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► they needed to have a big dramatic [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► episode that will get the fans excited [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► they would pull the Daleks and they did [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► that for like five years and now it's [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► like all right all right enough for the [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► Daleks right by the everyone loves blank [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► so then it's like uber now the new tool [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► to excite the fanboys to bring back [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► angels at so that's problem number one [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► with them and problem number two is I [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► the angels are a good concept but they [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► think they work so well on blink that's [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► kind of the same reason that the shark [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► work so well in Jaws because they you [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► know didn't show it all the time yes and [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► now when the angels are constantly being [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► show but the big scary fangs mouth like [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you got to save that or not do it don't [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► like yeah you have to get them on hidden [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► and off-camera and they're just getting [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► overused and it's a shame together [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► scarier by imagination right like [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► there's great when you do have to think [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► about it like okay the angels come yeah [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► not when I can have it you can have a [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► chase scene with angels so much like [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► it's not that bad i like well they're [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► very fast when you're not looking but I [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► i agree with Dan said earlier again I [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► said simultaneously that there are when [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► they're a force of nature and there are [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► aspects of the the time of angels [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► episode in Matt Smith's first season [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► that I liked in the sense that it was [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► still they what they didn't do is send [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► people back in time they broke their [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► next which was lame because that the [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► consumers they send them back in time [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► but I did like that that was the you [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► know we're in this place where all the [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► statues and some of them are angels and [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► we don't know which ones they are and [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► and and there was some of the creepiness [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► there but you're right the more you see [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► them the less value they seem to have [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► their better when they're this [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► completely unthinking essentially just [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► they're currently carnivores they touch [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► you they want to eat your time energy [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► they they're a force of nature [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► you can't deal with them you can't [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► strategize you just have to survive and [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► blink was great at that and the more we [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► see them you know this may be true with [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► any interest with all these enemies [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► right the more you see of them kinda [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► more ridiculous they're all the Cyberman [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► were ridiculous from the start so at [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► least they don't get any worse than just [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► a dance and happy haha it's so [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► embarrassing the Statue of Liberty thing [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► was it was like a turd in the pool it [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► was really like is just it was [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► ridiculous in the middle of an episode [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► that it makes sense anyway you're like [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► come on [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► I was embarrassed by watching that [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► actually there you go you embarrass me [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► doctor with your with your statue of [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► liberty [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► yeah I thought it was a cool idea but [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► ridiculous in the premise that if you're [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► looking at an angel can move so then the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► special Liberty know what nevermind I [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► how did everybody else in this every [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► night like it was to get loudly I mean [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► we think of a clover so if you want to [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► yeah exactly [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► well if you wanna if you want to do the [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► Statue of Liberty joke right [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► think of the end of blink you know it [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► why not have it why don't do a thing [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► where there's a blackout or or people [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► look away and then essentially just gone [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► or something I mean it could be a really [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► great gag or a blue links you're right [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► with like to end music from the link [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► place to continue to hold the torch in [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► the other hand right that would be funny [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► just sort of like clump through the city [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► and then growls and make the scary face [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► in the background while no one's looking [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► at it I have scary face and that I mean [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► who you could even have like some kind [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► of story where that is the the queen of [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► the angels or something in the doctor in [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► prisons it there because that's the [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► statue that people look at all the [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► time's right you'll never guess so it's [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► always trapped there I just like I i [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► just realized i remembered a moment in [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► the last episode that i did like a lot [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► so they're in New York modern-day New [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► York right now obviously they pay to get [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► people there so they have to shoot in [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► places in New York that people will [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► recognize so for no real reason [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► Amy and the doctor have this [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► conversation that takes them from [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► Central Park Times Square to the george [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► washington bridge and as they're talking [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► it was like what's happened at the [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► doctor says I don't know where New York [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► and then they go to pass new york and i [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► just thought that was they could think [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► because it there's no reason for them to [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► be walking around these places they're [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► just in New York so they have to [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► so so before we go I wanted to at least [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► touch on Amy and Rory's characters and [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► it since we're saying goodbye to them [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► any sort of last thoughts about how [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► they're out how you're going to think of [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► these characters and and and how you [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► think that that the story went I you [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► know I ended up liking Rory a lot which [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► is surprising that he had he ended up [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► being you know a funny you know loyal [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► husband to Amy and and honorable and [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► always tried he got to get a couple [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► scenes of badasses yeah well being a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► sensory and yeah I mean I hehe was much [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► more than I thought he would be [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► and you know I thought amy was a lot of [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► fun that she was capable and sassy and [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► and all the things that a Doctor Who [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► companion needs to be and she wasn't you [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► know wasn't really a screamer and she [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► wasn't really after her first sort of [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► infatuation with the doctor was not [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► mooning over him at all and you know I i [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► enjoyed the run with with Amy and Rory I [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► thought I thought that for [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► two-and-a-half seasons which is actually [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► quite a long time in modern Doctor Who [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► terms i thought i thought it was a good [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► ride and III and honestly i think is [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► probably enough and I think it's time [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► for something to yeah i agree i really i [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► grew up I grew to like them a lot [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► I mean I like I thought amy was pretty [TS]