The Incomparable

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00:00:21 ◼   ► the Intolerable podcast number 107 [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► September Atlanta [TS]

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00:00:35 ◼   ► welcome back to being comfortable [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► podcast I'm your host Jason Snell and [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► tonight we are going to be discussing [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► one of my favorite movies of all time [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► it's true it is a fine film from 1982 [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► directed by Nicholas Meyer UMaine mostly [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► know it for the the title the title [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► character a fellow named god never was [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► your head shaking and rages you always [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► you made out of that because it almost [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► needs my fists were shaking [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► who yes I think I've i think i've blown [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► out my microphone while shouting and [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► your voice should be echoing in space [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► right a dead moon it's it's very exactly [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► con-con it started to the wrath of khan [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► and joining me tonight to talk about [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► this most excellent of Star Trek movies [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► here on we are recording this on Khan [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► Wednesday everybody's favorite chain [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► restaurant [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► Star Trek theme chain restaurant it's [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► always wednesday con Wednesday are my [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► fellow Star Trek fan Scott McNulty hi [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► Scott [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► hello jason i have been and always will [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► be recording indeed also joining me is [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► the great Steve let's hi Steve [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► Oh was were you expecting the great [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► Steve laughs I'm sorry better get off so [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► we can write star trek in Babylon 5 or [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► not in the same university i'm really [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► looking forward to discussing star trek [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► that like the excellent [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► this is from the Babylon 5 extended [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► start exactly right exactly right where [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► it's from and joining me as somebody [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► I've been talking to about this podcast [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► since we before we started and he has [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► not been on it until tonight he is a [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► sci-fi fan extraordinaire and immobile [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► analyst extraordinaire to he's a he's a [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► lovely fellow and we're glad to finally [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► have money and comfortable it's Michael [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► Gartenberg hi your task me Jason let's [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► ask me you task to task me and i shall [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► happen is going to chase you around the [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► flames of perdition [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► yes and then some nebulae that was not [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► in mobile [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► dick which apparently they knew about in [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► 1996 this is not a subtle there's a lot [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► of depth and yeah they're actually [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► they're there is some subtlety in it but [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► there is also some not subtlety in it so [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► I let's get started in the great [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► tradition of incomparable movie episodes [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► i was going to die i suppose first even [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► though John Syracuse's and here i should [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► ask if anybody has any opening remarks [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► but otherwise I thought we would just [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► sort of walk through the movie [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► chronologically and and see where that [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► takes us because you know that that [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► seems to be the most effective way to [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► approach these movies and I have to say [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► I I like John circular saw a lot but i [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► am very glad he's not on this podcast [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► yeah i love this movie [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► I'm i continued not think this movie was [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► not invited yes I I should probably [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► point out that i am not here to bash [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► this film I am NOT as you know a a up [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► big-time star trek favorite you got a [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► star trek good i I'm not filled with [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► nostalgia for the TV show but and in [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► fact i just saw this film for the first [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► time last week are you seriously and i [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► watched it for a second time this week I [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► but I'm not here to bash a classic film [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► watch it like 90 more times and you'll [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► catch up with me [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► ya know I was I was I was not expecting [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► much from this movie because the the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► star trek first-generation series always [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► struck me as if fun but largely goofy [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► and and then I watched this film and it [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► turns out that it is fun but largely [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► goofy sea and in the first time I was [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► picking at it a bit but then I the [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► second time i watched I just SAT back in [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► Washington I have to admit once I did [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► that I really enjoyed the movie a couple [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► of years how I cannot believe that we [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► found the only person in the world who [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► had it before last we cannot see mr. two [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► buddies yes well now having said that I [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► i'm not sure i would place it even in [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► the same quadrant as any of the Star [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► Wars films from the original mm and and [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► I know I knew you and you end and Scott [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► have both said that you prefer this to [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► empire is heavily yes indeed india also [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► i come to this podcast in the hope that [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► I may cultivate and understand [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► ending of why don't some love well for [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► one there were no he walks in it and I [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► just felt I know I must be missing [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► something because Jason I know to be a [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► man of some refinement given his [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► appreciation of a real genius not see [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► there you go [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but it is interesting because this film [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► came two years after Empire and I think [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► there was a lot of influences way Empire [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► was made in the way they made this film [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► as opposed to star trek one which if you [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► watch this film they just simply pretend [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► they don't exist [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah when when we were talking last [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► week I think and wisely so we think you [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► said well if we got at least mention the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► original Star Trek before we talk about [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► star trek to because it was you know [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► kind of ponderous and Estelle's yeah it [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► was not really a very good movie it's [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► like they try to do everything in that [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► movie and so they did nothing and it was [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► like the worst day off of the film ever [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► they got to the end of that movie after [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► sitting for three hours like what I [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► still remember the ad campaign from that [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► film which was plainly leaving the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► theater and and dumping their thoughts [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► on camera and nobody could really think [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► of what to say that in fact i just i [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► still remember the young kid at the very [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► end he just stares out into space and [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► doesn't say anything for about three [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► seconds and then the only thing you can [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► say is fun [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► yeah any quite know what to do with the [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► franchise the franchise had been gone I [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► mean don't have never done this before [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► right I went off the air all of a sudden [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► Star Wars is this popular thing and [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► Roddenberry convinces this video let's [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► do star trek again but now i can do with [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► a big-budget special effects and you can [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► see the influence of the first film of [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► star wars star wars had a light speed [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► jump and stow Star Trek's only had to a [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► work jump but we're going to ours a [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► color as opposed to the black-and-white [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► wanted they traveled by rainbow [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► yeah the absolutely it was it was [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► totally there and you know 45 minutes of [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► dots of the enterprise which think it [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► was good because they reuse those shots [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► like you know when the next five films [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► they're building up the librarian stock [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► photography yeah [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► we got that's what it was but the thing [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► is everything is so totally different in [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► this film like this is the film that [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► really should have started the franchise [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► alright because it's got the characters [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► right it's got character interaction and [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► the characters were always the strength [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► of the original series anyway and so to [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► make it about the sort of special [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► effects and and and have this kind of [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► really long ponderous preachy kind of [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► plot as opposed to in this where it's [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► there's action and then there are some [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► really nice character interactions and [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► there's a you know there's a theme and [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► there's a message but it's not it's not [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► preachy and you know you're right it is [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► this is the movie that was the movie [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► that they should have made but they they [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► didn't they took this kind of leftover [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► TV episode and blew it up and yeah not [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► so good but they create pretended that [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► the first one didn't exist then you go [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► right into the fact that uniforms are [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► different the ship is different i think [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► this is like only don't think it's the [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► same is kirk is an admiral and isn't it [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► basically the same opening I mean I seem [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► to recall i remember the first well but [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► i remember that the they were they were [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► wandering up to the newly go up to the [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► new ship and both of them and a lot of [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► the stuff that it thats instructor to is [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► is effect scenes from from Star Trek one [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► so that part is the same but again they [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► do it [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► this is jumping a slightly ahead but [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► they do it in like 30 seconds in this [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► movie and then start to recommend motion [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► pictures like 10 minutes but one thing [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► but they were not planning to be on the [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► enterprise in that first film where they [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► have I thought they were retired in that [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► film as well and then ended up just by [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► virtue of something yes yes curtain both [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► movies does take over for the actual [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► captain right and then while the first [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► in the first movie they were sort of [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► less subtle about that Curtis takes over [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► and with that that will be open with [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► like 20 minutes of Klingons being [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► destroyed that's true that's true [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► where's this movie begins with the the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► were thrown into the 23rd century and we [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► don't know what we're looking at it [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► looks like it's the bridge of the [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► enterprise going into the neutral zone [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► accept that some of our familiar friends [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► are there but there's this girl with [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► pointy ears who's who's in the captain's [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► chair and and she manages to get the [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► ship blown up girls equipment drivers no [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► survivors were all [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► here in that music and then you see [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► Spock whore you see McCoy and soon [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► actually wrote this down last night and [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► then all of a sudden she turns rally the [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► hell is sitting in that chair was some [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► mystery is going on here [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► corona I with you and so this is the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► first time I've watched this movie with [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► a critical eye because usually i'm just [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► basking in the glory that is star trek [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► to date so I do you think about it too [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► much but as I'm watching it so I know [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► obviously what the first scene is right [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► it's kasia peru we find out that you [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► know it's there in a simulator and it's [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► a no-win situation it sets up one of [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► these great pieces of lower in the star [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► trek universe right and we find out [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► there's a payoff later on with the the [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► whole Kobayashi Maru thing but as I'm [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► watching it so it's a training exercise [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► and I think why do they have these [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► experience to office alright playing [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► along in this training exercise it makes [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► no sense wouldn't it all be cadets yes [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► well I guess presumably they're there [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► because you think that they're going to [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► give you some guidance right and then [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► they're killed off in Reverse to whom [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► McCoy spot they're all going and my [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► question is who's wired the bridge [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► yeah yeah there's a lot of pyrotechnics [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► involved and and has no one yet put [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► seatbelts on the enterprise they're the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► only ones with enough experience to [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► reasonably throw themselves across the [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► bridge in a convincing and Kirk seems [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► quite upset about the fact that they he [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► says they destroyed the bridge and and [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► you with it like you know how dare you [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► know you broke my ship will who wired [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► this thing to explode when fake playing [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► with fire fake torpedoes [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► well if you remember in the first one [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► they had seatbelt like the armrest sort [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► of collapsed in their mysterious figure [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► that was kind of stupid mistake and it [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► is just roll of quarters roll across the [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► floor that will shake the ship so any [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► questions so the star trek to ever there [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► was a rumor before it came out that spot [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► was going to get killed so they put the [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► scene in and killed Spock immediately in [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► the first thing I uh okay he's not [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► really its just faked out [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► yeah he'll be fine but it but you know [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the first time you see you don't know [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► that it's a simulation we don't know [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► what's going on any open the door and [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► you see kind of Kirk in that shadow that [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► sell variants [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► now we're now we're going to get some [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► explanations to what's going on in his [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► parallel universe but first you think [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► it's God but then you think what does [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► God need with this time for a hairpiece [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► I Captain Kirk at the beginning aids [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► it's really funny in the beginning of [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► the movie he's he's kind of a a a jerk [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► right he's like he does no sense of [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► humor he he really kind of gives it to [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► sonic when he comes in and says you know [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► you you screwed this up and and McCoys [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► making jokes and and he's not listening [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► and he and he has a conversation with [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► Spock that is not he accepts this case [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► it's implied but it's never said [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► outright this is like 50th birthday and [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► he's feeling very old and washed up in [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► his little Admirals Admirals job and and [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► bone the same so you get the book from [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► Spock and bones brings him [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► antique glasses and booze in Romulan now [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► but I thought that was great the scene [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► with him and McCoy and those glasses [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it's me that's one of the best scenes in [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► the film because this is about age this [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► is about like these people that have [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► grown old together and everyone else is [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► kind of accepted their place in life [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► except for Kirk and he's trying to deal [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► with it you know got moping around the [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► galaxies is that game for the young and [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► I'm not doing that anymore [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► and of course like that's not you are [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► really the whole theme of this film is [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► our journey through Kirk's midlife [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► crisis [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► oh yeah absolutely that's what this is [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► in fact the final line of the film is I [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► feel young [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► what part what part of this with me was [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the young Kirk remember this is the guy [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► who is the youngest Starfleet captain [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► history who brought the enterprise back [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► in a five-year mission without killing [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► most of his crew he was a hero and now [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► he's like this middle-aged guy and the [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► rest of this build is him taking [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► consequences for all of his actions and [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► you know we look back at some of those [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► actions like that was pretty stupid like [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► you just left them on that planet just [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► that they know like I found myself for [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► the first time I was rooting for con [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► last night have been out khan khan has a [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► lot of issues but but it he's a jerk is [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► not without blame right Kahn is a little [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► peeved i watched space seed before i [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► watch this for watch this I really did [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► my homework [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► I take this thing I did too and it's [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► basically he's kind of not Michael guy [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► you know Kirk brings my hibernation [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► tries to kill you know take over the [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► ship and you know in classic stuff that [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► you don't think about when you're [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► watching the show [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► well I'll just remove removing you on [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► this planet and you know we move along [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► and this film sort of explores all those [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► things we see that with his relationship [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► with Carol Marcus we've never heard of [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► before and you know all the exposition [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► that they set up i think that see with [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► mccoy really set up the best because [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► those classes come into play [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► I never noticed this before those [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► classes come into play at three or four [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► times throughout the film at critical [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► moments and it's like whoever directed [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► those scenes are great products chapter [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► was middle-aged at that point he plays [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► it really well [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► yeah and the glasses of course make a [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► cameo appearance in Star Trek for what [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► he sells the glasses and of course like [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► I gave you those as a present and of [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► course [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► Crixus the great things you're going to [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► do it again it's right there in a time [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► loop [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► I kind of like to forget about Star [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► Trek's 34 [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► well I think what I I think I don't get [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► too i believe that but that's another [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► story [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► I don't know you and so I watch star [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► trek 3 and it made me because I blocked [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► my memory and it made me remember that [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► two three and four are really just one [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► long story that's the kind of yeah if [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► you watch them all together it's kind of [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► neat and then there's five yeah I don't [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► know no other thing that struck me about [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► this was recorded about the body is so [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► great because in the first series don't [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► know who this guy was [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► and then this guy want to be associated [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► with your car in fee and leather he was [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► mr. Arcon Fantasy Island gotten anything [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► like that and you see him in this thing [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► and all of scenes cop I'm yeah oh yeah [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► harder much about what Ricardo Montalban [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► please this like a real actor as good as [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► Montalban is though and i do not deny [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► that he is fantastic in this when they [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► made the space seed episode could they [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► not find an East Indian actually [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► addition to yeah yeah well I mean this [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► was you know let's face this fix these [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► weak ass to everybody with people that [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► wasn't a white guy i mean if we gotta [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► get you on a white guy is that close [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► enough yeah that's closer it almost [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► works in the TV episodes got these are [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► the olive complexion as the long black [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► hair [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► in the movie with his with his hair [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► silver and is his chest of soft [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► Corinthian leather he doesn't look [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► Indian any longer [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► yeah I think they gave up on the whole [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► Indian line he was just a superhuman you [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► know superhuman East Indians had a [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► different look than anyhow ninety 90 [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► seconds genetically engineered to look [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► split look mexican in the far future of [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► manned sound six the nineties were [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► different today was a very different [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► time for genetic engineering sleeper [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► ships with cryogenic you the eugenics [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► wars it was crazy it was it was a wild [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► time and I was also another great idea [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► lets us know these people and it's been [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► damaged basis would have yeah someone [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► else probably happiness every step of [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► the problem at to someone else later [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► lead and it happens again right that's [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► all content forget since they just like [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► stick him somewhere else until he [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► escapes again it's a bad idea is there [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► any reason this man is more than a [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► little bit grumpy [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► yeah we met was he put on the sleeper [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► ship or what did he put him no no he was [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► thinking assumption was always that he [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► escaped yet flat again he fled exactly [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► right they were going to get him so he [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► took off thats that's right in space [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► seed so um I let's see I i want to go [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► from from Kirk's birthday though the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► saddest birthday party ever [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► well there's some Romulan ale but other [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► than that it's true and that the first [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► time Robin L is mentioned and start yeah [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► I had some Romulan ale at the star trek [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► experience in Las Vegas it was beer that [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► was colored blue Syria and and it wasn't [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► particularly stronger now [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► no but had blue food color which me [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► makes you wonder why how hard was it to [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► smuggle the stuff like is it like [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► alcohol in the 23rd century just like [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► really really blue from the blue food [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► coloring that's hard to get your hands [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► well synthehol so you know nobody wants [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► exactly so drunk so we cut to a starship [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► reliant which has got a recognizable [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► face in mr. check off and if you're a [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► fan of the original series you'll [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► actually see that the transporter room [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► guide mr. Kyle from the original series [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► is one of the bridge officers on the [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► Reliant which is just random random [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► little tidbit to Darmok and and Captain [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► Darmok is on this but one of the things [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► that's really funny as they make this [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► call to Carol Marcus who we first meet [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► here who becomes a very important part [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► of this movie to talk about in one of my [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► favorite lines in this movie checkup [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► says doesn't have to be completely [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► lifeless [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► and i find that funny because I mean the [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► assumption here is that these guys have [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► gone from planet to planet throughout [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► the known galaxy and every planet has [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► life on it which if you think about like [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► modern scientific knowledge this is not [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► very likely in fact it's probably much [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► less likely that and that there are very [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► rare plant planets with life right any [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► given mode should work as a matter of [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► fact exactly the the little space [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► station is orbiting at a lifeless movie [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► right well they were a little bit [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► concerned about the nanoparticle current [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► and it because you never know when you [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► might find a particle of proto matter [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► and maybe it's the words in the sensors [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► it's screwed up but there's two big [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► metal cargo containers and like a dozen [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► super engineered humans down on the [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► planet and their sensors and fun get [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► nothing but there's not i don't know [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► what's good and more importantly is [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► every starship not commanded by Kirk you [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► know run by an idiot go back to go back [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► to every episode i'm doing dr. are just [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► these these guys like bozos I mean no [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► wonder Kirk was the youngest starship [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► captain because I everyone else [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► Starfleet Academy there's a recruitment [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► problem but Starfleet mike seemed like [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► he was competent but he was he was [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► immediately thrown aside yeah but I like [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► that see because you know the Federation [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► and Starfleet officers are always like [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► oh we're all professional and we want to [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► do a great job and in this scene they're [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► kinda like does it really have to be [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► things we like it was just kidding baby [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► plan that we budget a bit it's close to [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► home [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► come on come on with a little microbe or [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► two between friends dr. marks private us [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► a little bit crazy [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► yeah yeah they don't seem really [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► thrilled with this man isn't the whole [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► idea of transplanting whatever it is [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► kind of against the the prime directive [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► well that's funny though because then [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► they cut to Carol Marcus and she's like [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► well let me get this straight [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► it seems when transplanted like yes well [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► I don't know that she hangs up and and [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► immediately we get that we get that was [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► really funny line where where her son [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► says it's like a boy scout you you dated [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► and she's like look Jim Kirk was many [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► things but he was never a boy scout [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► which is a great line [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► let's do a little work for saturday just [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► a little our out its ok and then having [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► not seen this film I have to say that I [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► immediately said oh sorry yeah yeah i [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► mean everyone everyone who's ever seen [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► that movie back exactly right in spite [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► of in spite of the misdirection that [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► they attempt to pull by giving him that [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► righteous person yeah yeah which matches [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► the curls in shadows to pay so so so [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► then we go to study alpha 5 which is a [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► sound stage with like a optical print of [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► like extra sand blowing and its really [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► fake no no that's Teddy office six so [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► this is Ceti alpha 5 which is my [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► favorite line in the movie and my i was [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► saying it over and over again tonight my [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► wife is like you are more on the hood [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► doesn't have to be able to which i [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► replied this is the album [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► yeah although there's the scene where it [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► is there's some really nice creepy bits [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► in here and I like the scene where they [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► go into the cargo containers and they're [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► like what the hell is this [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► in fact i think i think captain Darmok [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► says what the hell is this like twice in [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► a row he does he does what the hell is [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► this and then check off sees the Botany [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► Bay logo you know get your own in the [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► gift shop Botany Bay thing goes on no [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► blood me bay and and and they run [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► outside so that's kind of creepy and [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► then right where they are immediately [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► unexpectedly presented with the [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► polyphonic spree which I thought was [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► strange in 98 do this is so bizarre for [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► couple of things first of all they do [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► that pan over the bookshop because [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► you've got to see this copy of Moby Dick [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► that right yes and King Lear again we're [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► going to foreshadow just a little bit [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► arm but then they go outside they see [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► these people on my first reaction is why [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► aren't they calling the ship it back as [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► soon as they see the botany they want to [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► getting the hell out of there don't they [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► have phasers that communicators they're [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► not they're not just a bunch of people [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► they're not making any threats Adam they [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► don't appear to have any weapons like [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► it's never quite clear what they're [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► doing other than driving the pot forward [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► and in the perennial star trek question [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► why to the captain and the first officer [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► beam-down themselves to this planet [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► well they don't think there's anything [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► down there they just want to find [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► something to transplant right they're [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► lazy and still why wouldn't you say the [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► Science Officer yeah it's true as soon [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► as they see the cargo container you [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► would think that maybe they call in [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► backup or but they don't they don't have [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► Saavik to to quote regulations at them [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► or else they probably would [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► is there is one place that can be down [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► to and get his communicator control and [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► then but they leave there and they can [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► it doesn't really make it why wouldn't [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► they just be like all know Botany Bay [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► no check off too reliant get us out of [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► here let's get out the shower i have a [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► simpler explanation [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► this is not the a team of stark know [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► these guys are on the Reliant looking [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► for dead for different roles is probably [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► you know we're not trusting these guys [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► to actually go out into the neutral zone [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► you don't want to exploring sinking [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► strange new worlds new life new symbols [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that nobody wanted to find dead and you [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► can work for the Genesis people just [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► there right now whatever now right no [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► first contact for you that there is true [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► that when they stay they show the [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► Reliant bridge and the two crew members [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► are concerned they're they're hailing [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► accountant [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► what should be the ones which we do AG [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► give it a little shit sometime i'm sure [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► you could find it [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► yeah this is something on TV we can [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► watch your exactly and they never even [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► show them taking over the room because [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► they don't have to because these people [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► just like you know we surrender yeah [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► we're not going to network we're not [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► going to audition we're getting else no [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► self-destruct nothing we go out they go [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► outside of the cargo containers in there [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► they're all standing in the desert there [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► but the show up on sensors and they [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► bring Matt back inside and we know that [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► it's constant his bookshelf where he's [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► he's got a photographic memory and he [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► only has five books and he's been [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► married for 15 years so he's cranky and [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► he didn't quote every and when I missed [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► some sort of regulation yeah it's not [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► very no I mean this is why he's so mad [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► at Kirk is that correct left with like [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► five books for for for all eternity and [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► I don't make me mad too [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► it's like give me a kid no candles no [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► Tigers in the 23rd century it's one of [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► those other times one of those books [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► have been feed Jason yellowboy of Kirk [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► so right can we just say that content a [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► few years to think on this city was used [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► about it a little bit i'm doing it so [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► there's some shots in the in the cargo [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► containers the scene of cons people and [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► first off there's not sure if there's [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► not very many of them it's it's it's not [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► a big cast and they're all like 18 year [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► old blonde white people right con seems [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► to rule a largely headband and multiple [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► yet so which is weird because he's this [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► he's this eugenic Lee you know you know [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► Superman from India and yet he's got [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► like a bunch of suburban teenagers [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► following him [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► it's it's it very weird i don't really [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► understand that [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► the casting of that it doesn't i [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► expected that to be a you know a more [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► ethnically diverse and probably like age [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► diverse group unless the implication [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► there is that the kids were the only [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► ones who survived and all the older [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► people got heels in their heads except [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► for con I don't know I i seem to recall [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► though in space seed it was also a [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► similarly not averse crowd maybe that [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► says well I mean the enterprise itself [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► wasn't exactly what we call racially [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► diverse you know what actually the Jason [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► most of them or from various ethnic [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► backgrounds but the whole genetic [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► engineering thing [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► oh I see it turned a Mexican into an [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► indie I see if it's what i mean but they [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► got more than 15 years ago and these [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► people were like 19 so did con have a [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► was the secret of conscious that most of [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► the people who were frozen in it were [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► like four-year-olds was this like on [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► daycare and it's interesting he did aged [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► quite a bit and nobody else appeared to [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► ya anyway I are that start putting its [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► there's a possibility that they are they [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► they are the offspring of khan and his [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► wife they could all be his babies having [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► babies [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► Tom Jim Henson's cotton panties so [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► here's the thing we talked about how [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► good you know multiple bond he does lots [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► of lots of shouting and and great [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► over-the-top stuff but there-there is he [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► shows a little restraint very few places [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► in this movie but early on in this movie [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► he showed some great restraint that [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► right at the beginning when uh when maze [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► today I demand to know the meaning of [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► this and he has these create initial [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► lines which is you know you're in a [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► position to demand nothing and then he [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► starts sighs and says I am in a position [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► to grant nothing un un it's it's he [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► could have he could chew the scenery [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► with outline to and what I like about [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► that is that that's that moment when you [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► realize you know the ego that he has his [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► frustration at having been beaten and [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► been stewing about it for 15 years and [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► you know he's going to explode but it's [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► that it's a nice moment where you just [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► know he's he's a he's he's building up [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► his anger he's ready to explode yeah [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► Montalban hasn't you know he's not going [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► to go over the top two in order to [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► explode you first have to have to dial [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► it down a little bit so you have some [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► range and it's a nice moment where you [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► just send his frustration it's like you [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► know I I think so highly of me [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► self but I got nothing here this is [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► we've been living out of boxes for 15 [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► that's the fuse hissing as the sparkle [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you have towards the body of the this is [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► setting out 45 but I looked at that [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► scene and i said and i have one you [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► choose like no he's not he's got mad and [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► and now he's like you could see the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► wheels spinning like he's putting his [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► plan into action by I he's got something [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► here I was trying to figure out what [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► he's got and and how can he play it to [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► his advantage and you see it when he [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► says you know and check out those no [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► captain kirk captain because that [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► Admiral Curtis but that they promoted [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► that bone tries out all of the potential [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► life stress points all pronunciations [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► yes add mirror at mirror rah Commodore [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► no ad marrow Admiral Kirk never bothered [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► to check our progress and that's when [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► you start thinking about ya was that [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► list or idea current good [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► oh maybe not you know making a note of [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► it somewhere in a log [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► just so y'all know yeah maybe the rest [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► of the federal check on them send [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► someone out that now they just went [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► about their merry way that was what they [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► done anyway and then I started thinking [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► wow how many planets that these guys [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► drop how many civilizations because they [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► just did stuff and said not our problem [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► anymore you know wow we're destroying [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► civilization and their God in their [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► culture and now we're just going to move [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► right along [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► true but and you would think so check [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► off was there well he wasn't actually [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► there in the original show right right [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► you would the in this movie he [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► apparently was there because a con [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► recognizes him and so you would think [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► hey we are in this system i happen to [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► know who that we ruin these people at [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► city of 45 so while we're checking the [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► lifeless Ceti alpha six maybe mission [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► structure for that they're still there [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► just drop by and see how cons doing at [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► that party will just bought me a big pot [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► and you down the planets count the [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► planets a planet is missing [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► huh let's check closer huh the the [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► carpets are a little bit wrong the [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► missing planet shouldn't and that's when [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► I think there's a line [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► message on the screen a little alert [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► comes up a dialog box on the screen of [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► the Reliant that says recent things that [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► have happened in this system khan was [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► marooned here what it was disturbed by [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► planet exploded hurt never bother filing [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► a report with the Federation he was [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► never big on pillow it just never got [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► this area you mentioned it is Captain's [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► Log though I yeah at the end he [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► mentioned something about con reject the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► captain at the captain's log with [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► Russian yeah I just like the best part [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► when I saw this in the theaters and [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► condos [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► I know you like 10 people in the [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► audience go no you don't you worn in [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► space down in the depths of the shipment [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► something in 1982 when you could get [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► netflix it did it was serious [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► I mean these people weren't absolutely [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► serious and I'm gonna accuse in that [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► Nicholas II know you guys really didn't [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► know each other or at that point checkup [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► was already showing his potential and [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► was like swabbing decks on the [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► enterprise no gearing him up his future [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► work on the remaining like 15 years [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► that's not yet with the monkeys haircut [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► yeah so so we shift gears from study of [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► 45 to go back to the what we talked [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► about their we get the flyby of the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► enterprise which shows a little bit of [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► restraint not coming because before you [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► get to that right at you get that really [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► gross scene they cut the Kirk and he's [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► sitting there with his reading glasses [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► on the shuttle yes totally [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► and i love that right the rest of the [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► world is about to explode and he's [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► sitting there with those granny glasses [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► on trying to read as a lot of these [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► newspapers they're flying up there and [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► it's like to me it was like great like [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► his world is about to fall apart yeah [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► the transition starts with the with Khan [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► saying where can I find James Kirk and [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► they got away to Kirk in the shuttle and [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► it looks for all the world like he's [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► sitting on the can [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► yeah reading the paper he's a book with [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► his pants down again I'm gonna sit there [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► smoking jacket on you know but not some [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► Klingon opera rod [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► just chilling out exactly what else I [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► also I i have a whole line here that I'm [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► not gonna get into too much about i'm [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► not convinced about the set eels biology [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► why wasn't that it was the only animal [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► on the entire planet who survived why [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► does it keep the young between its [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► spines what is the motivation to crawl [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► into a near why does it crawl out of [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► Chekhov's here at the end I don't really [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► understand that is puzzling that was [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► yeah that was a big is it not a hundred [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► percent fatal maybe sometimes they [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► decide to leave [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► other times they don't wanna kill you I [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► don't know it's a peculiar animal is all [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► I'm saying lied about that part [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► yes he didn't he didn't do a survey of [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► the planet to find out whether other [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► animals had survived liar he just [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► assumed that might have been what what [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► they were out doing when check off and [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► and the other captain arrived [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► well you know this is another one of [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► those worlds within its higher you know [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► just mono climate yeah it's the desert [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► well it used to have more climates but [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► but then then another planet exploded [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► inexplicably night there was life you [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► would given a fair chance this is [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► setting out for Scott is that good I [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► just going to keep doing that because i [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► know i'm just-just kit is good yeah that [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► you've ruined us all you've ruined it [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► for all of our lives and family members [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► best scenes and the court cases answer [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► to any question [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► ok so they get to get on the ship and [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► Kirk keeps walking around with that book [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► under his arm to throughout this which I [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► occasionally I will find myself [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► somewhere with a book under my arm and I [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► and i get i get all tense I'm like I'm [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► like Captain Kirk now I gotta book under [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► my arm it's very strange and and they [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► get on the bridge and there's this the [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► funny moment where spot gets out of the [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► chair and basically says his sonic how [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► many times you piloted ship out of space [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► to actually well I've never done it like [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► to do it take it out and then and then [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► Kirk and McCoy you're like holy cow what [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► Scott was back spark you drive the ship [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► don't I love the bones line there to [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► which you like right click here and and [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► the looks on their faces are so volatile [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► yeah you know a horrible and it's like [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► using your kid out to drive for the [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► first time you're standing in you know [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► the passenger seat you kind of have your [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► foot on an invisible break [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► trust me about that what I'm looking at [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► is how difficult is it to take the ship [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► out of stock involved [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► basically saying the following things [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► after oscars just one quarter and more [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► word that's ahead step grandmother said [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► warp nine [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► well having now seen galaxy quest i know [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► that it's harder than if you crash don't [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► blame Sulu at that point of lines [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► I mean soon what did you do I just said [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► forward why did you left I I didn't say [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► that spirit is their manual transmission [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► on the enterprise that I don't know what [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► what's nice about it is it it put Spock [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► in his role as a teacher right Kirk is [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► uncomfortable because Kirk wants to be [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► in the chair he wants to be in command [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► Spock doesn't need to be in the chair he [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► and he says this again later [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► he's he's here to teach her and make [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► give her that the first experience of [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► piloting the ship because she's his you [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► know officer that he's grooming for for [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► promotion and leadership and that's why [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► Spock is here and that's that's the [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► difference between Kirk and Spock is [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► kirk is the man of action [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► he wants to be in the chair giving [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► commands and Spock doesn't need it he's [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► just here to have his students learn so [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► but in this scene though it almost seems [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► like although it would be entirely [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► illogical that he's kind of dorky and [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► with Kirk because he sees him come in oh [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► his eyebrow go up notices that card box [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► and this is true then does he have [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► static come and take the Conn well yeah [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► but i think i think Spock throughout [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► these things is trying to teach calculus [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► incur keep saying you know is denying [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► himself and said throughout this movie [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► spot keeps trying to say look you know [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► what you may be middle-aged but this is [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► who you are you going to do this until [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► you die yeah so stop sitting there [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► pushing paper and I think he doesn't [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► intentionally just drive Kirk a little [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► bit crazy you know that the HU and that [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► should be you in that chair you you and [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► I both know you should be sitting there [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► not her and I'm gonna have her dry [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► yeah now see that is entirely logical [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► good work you go sit in the back in and [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► put your glasses on and read a book [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► called a Lincoln she's gonna say the [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► sentences that makes this Bashir move [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► yeah she's gonna tell he's gonna tell [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► Sulu to press the button because of our [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► head half a good job so then that [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► there's a there's a really nice scene [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► that win in the in the turbolift where [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► Kirk goes into the elevator and and and [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► he runs into sabic and she's got her [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► hair different her hair's down and she's [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► wearing like this kind of regulation [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► Starfleet [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► bath robe or something it's her straight [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► and and as a kid watching this on VHS [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► this scene was a couple of single shots [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► back and forth as they talk and then I [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► got the DVD in its letter box and it [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► turns out that the way they did this and [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► the DVD is it's a it's a single shot so [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► they they entered the turbolift in the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► doors closed and there in one and by the [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► end of the scene they open again and [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► they're in someplace else so they've [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► obviously been like moving the set [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► around and the VHS version completely [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► ruins it by cutting back and forth but [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► what's cool about it is you know Kirk [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► ass about her hair and all of that which [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► is just kind of random and and and then [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► she asked about the Kobayashi Maru and [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► he he completely evades her and then she [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► leaves and and McCoy comes in and set [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► and does the question we always ask [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► who's been holding up the damn elevator [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► right because they pause these elevators [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► all the time and it's like how many [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► backup elevators Union and the [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► enterprise for people have conversations [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► like meetings are held in the elevators [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► and bone says like what the hell i'm [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► waiting for an elevator here she leaves [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► he comes in and then alignment kills me [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► and I just I love it for what it says [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► about bones and what it says about [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► courtesies it did she change her hair [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and purchase i didn't notice wire first [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► and you know he noticed because she at [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► one point she goes for the button and he [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► actually flinches only pulls away [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► oh yeah oh my god what's going on well [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► just freaking out because it's sort of [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► like an intern being alone with you know [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► Bill Clinton and it's sort of like you [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► know its regulations are haha wow I'm [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► dressed properly a nice podcast and told [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► her about Kirk I think that's very [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► clearly he's done that so then Carol [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► Marcus comes up and that's actually a [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► really nice moment where bones like low [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► Carol Marcus ah and perk just gets [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► really pissed off and and and and bones [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► like sorry I you know geez I didn't [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► sensitive there but it's I i really love [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► that scene because there's so much going [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► on it this would be a good time probably [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► to point out how crucial bones at home [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► and enjoyment of Star Trek problem and [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► well he said such a great Harry during [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► his his delivery is fantastic he always [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► gets the best yawns it's the [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► cantankerous bastard is probably my [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► all-time favorite archetype and and I [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► don't think before anybody has done it [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► better than the forest Kelly in any TV [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► show that I can anytime [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► anything is being taken too seriously [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► you get bones in there in these needling [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► people and it doesn't matter who you can [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► needle kirky needle Spock hehe will [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► question the whole premise of something [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► just because he's cranky [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► it's great he is such a great goes well [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► there's a couple of great moments and [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► where we're not we're not quite there [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► yet there's one great line when they're [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► actually you know later on Spock says [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► then they are leaving its boxes be [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► careful Jim before he goes we will like [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► the classic of between India are these [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► are three people that have you know [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► grown older together they've been [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► through a lot together and you know that [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► they're just trying to help them get [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► through this midlife crisis and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► fortunately there was a little crisis up [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► the universe coming longer to help this [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah absolutely it's everything [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► that that interaction the character [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► interaction is is one of the things that [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► makes the movie so much fun [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► so the next scene is we cut away to [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► space station regular one and at the end [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► the one seat scene where it's not just [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► sort of Carol and David but that you've [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► got like five or six other members of [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► the science team there and I just wanted [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► to mention that because they don't [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► really you know until they're dead [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► bodies are hanging upside down you don't [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► really see much of them and I feel like [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► there's an entire other movie here that [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► we don't see which is the story of the [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► science team that infants this amazing [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► thing and they're working with the [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► government to figure out where to deploy [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► it and then the thing gets perverted and [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► this you know the ship comes to take it [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► away but it turns out there these crazy [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► people who are like almost savage people [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► who come out and they they they attack [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► them and they're they're trying to buy [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► time for the people to escape and that [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► people are tortured but they don't give [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► up the information just like this [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► amazing other story about what happens [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► to the science team and we don't see any [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► of it right i mean we see them murmur [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► what do you mean that they're coming to [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► get our thing and then they're dead and [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► and we don't see the rest of its absence [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► but I think that's great because they [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► did not spend a lot of time in this [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► movie with stupid exposition there [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► aren't a whole lot of long speeches if [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► they made that today they would have [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► added on [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► another 40 minutes to tell that I'm sure [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► but I want to need like that in me as a [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► kid I read the read the novelization of [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► this of this movie and there's a little [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► bit more of character development of [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► these guys and and I think about that [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► every time I see them hanging upside [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► down with their throats got it's like oh [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► poor scientists they did you know [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► because it's kind of a nice story they [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► like they refused to answer common [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► questions they buy time for them to get [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► Genesis away but so there's that moment [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► here where we were we see them getting [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► upset that that Chekhov is said they're [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► going to come take Genesis away and we [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► know that bad things are gonna happen to [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► this poor our friends in the in the [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► science team and then you cut back to [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the enterprise and once again the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► enterprise's the only ship in the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► quadrant that can deal with a with a [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► crisis absolutely no sense why would the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► enterprise be the only ship in the [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► quadrant that has earth it has a very [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► City headquarters of Starfleet doesn't [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► make any sense i guess study alpha 5 is [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► a back with this is Ceti alpha 5 and but [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► not only that but don't they know the [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► run line isn't that quadrants [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► yeah it's true it's very close by so I I [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► have a theory that it's not the only [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► ship in the quadrant and it's really [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► just Kirk being like it's Carol Marcus [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► something's going on I want to take [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► control of the ship anyway [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► yeah we're the only ones really who are [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► closed um really so I'm gonna take over [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► now okay just let me know checkout is at [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► the helm of the reliance so there's that [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► they got a problem my sexy with Carol [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► Marcus is great because it's where [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► they're using AT&T to communicate so [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► it's not under century 80s the franchise [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► they can't keep a signal goes only one [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► bar that regular one that's right one [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► bar why it was right like talking on an [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► iphone in your idea what you say I can't [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► hello what up [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► it was programmed by the same gun is [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► auto pilot out of this big throughout [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► their static to which is funny because [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► now in a digital era there's no snow but [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► it's like TV static like [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► oh I could barely make you out let them [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► eat static yes exactly right [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► it's all it's all actually TV static but [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► what is this static of which you speak [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► let them eat MPEG artifacts haha that'll [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► teach me [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► let them eat skype interference but then [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► you have a great scene with Kirk and [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► Spock I think that's a fantastic see [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► yes I always like seeing Spock's [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► quarters because it looks for all the [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► world like that the anteroom of a [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► benihana expecting somebody to walk up [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► and ask if you want to sit in the dining [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► room or do you want tap on interesting [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► interesting i did make an i made a note [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► that says Spock's quarters kind of tacky [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► yeah he's not into the material things [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► he's just got a rug gonna thing hanging [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► on the wall a dreamcatcher maybe range [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► mirror made of pennies apparently yeah [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► and I swear to God that mirror with all [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the lightbulbs my parents had that on [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► their wall shop in 1984 yeah well most [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► people don't know is that Spock really [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► was a fan of nineteen seventies [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► memorabilia and connected it yeah he's [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► got a Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► outside there's a lava lamp on his [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► bedside table that I believe that cut on [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► the internet you go it's only logical to [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► Remember Who khan was in space seed but [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► spock knew all about the lava lamp [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► exactly that's correct this is this is [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► the key scene that we're we're yes and [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► actually I i would like to pair it with [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► the scene that follows immediately which [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► is where cons right-hand man [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► yo Keem talks to him we can't you know [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► cons right-hand man is you walk him [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► yes lock in yes your walkie now I love n [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► jus he does say it you said at the end [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► he does said unlike some of the Star [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► Wars characters that Dan and John talked [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► about and they know them and they're [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► only actually named that because of [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► their action figure you're walking home [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► is actually named in the in the movie [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► it's justin scott he was in a bunch of [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► TV shows in the eighties if you'd like [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► to prefer to say that it's jason scott [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► from like the Phoenix and other random [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► shows that were on the eighties but [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► anyway so no I'm okay with lockheed [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► Milwaukee no always baby always be [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► walking to me that what you notice i [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► didn't know he was out of an issue or a [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► bubble wrap or something at one point [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► and that's how you knew his name no no [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► that's the only reason anybody knew the [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► lig 88 was exactly [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► no no he's actually mentioned move [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► unlike many of the Star Wars characters [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► so we get the needs of the many and the [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► needs of the few i have been and always [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► shall be your friend but what really is [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► great here is that Kirk is really [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► apologetic right he's like well there's [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► this thing and it's box-like take a ship [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► and critics like no no I don't want the [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► no no you just drop me on the getting [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► getting this year we just let me off [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► drop me off in yourself responsible time [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► time again you can command the ship full [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► of trainees and nothing bad will happen [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► to them yeah exactly right [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► surely there were not be at an emergency [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► of some kind that well well we forgot [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► that scene when he meets body when they [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► first get on there he goes over to one [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► of the trainees you like what's your [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► name and it's like I'm going he's dead [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► shirt and apparently movie categorize [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► guy at some point that guy is that I [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► think in the novelization that was like [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► studies it's actually think they shot [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► scenes and and cut them and they're in [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► the deleted scenes that is scotty's [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► nephew and there's there's more about [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► that makes it that much it actually is a [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► very sad scene when he dies and Scotty [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► said it doesn't really matter whether [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► he's relative or not he's got he's just [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► upset that he was doing his duty and me [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► and he died there there is a certain set [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► of logic that these not Scotty's nephew [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► isn't why the hell is he bringing this [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► one who guided the bridge instead of [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► sickbay because he's loopy from the fee [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► i mean is that they may be the place [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► maybe well he was he was the only one [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► that stayed at his post know what's [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► going well everybody else bailed and so [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► he was probably the one that was close [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► at hand so Scotty could come and present [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► him dramatically [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's right here that's right [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► that's the young kid in the war movie [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► you know he's dead he's got seconds to [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► show me that that's 23rd century this is [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► the first they don't have any red shirts [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► anymore they're all wearing red shirts [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► we now have the white guys white [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► jumpsuit guy white is the new red yeah [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► so so I'm so I i like and one other [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► thing that I noticed at in the scene [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► where they enter and Spock is sitting [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► there and maybe this is just common lore [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► amongst the Star Trek fans but Spock is [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► actually sitting there meditating with [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► the live long and prosper hands going oh [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► he's got it he's got his hands together [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► and kind of a praying way but his [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► fingers are separated [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► live long and prosper style that's how [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► they do it on Vulcan man and how they [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► roll that is so so so this box has taken [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► ship look I'm here as a teacher you know [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► you should be in charge anyway and I [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► want to get the counterpoint is with [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► your welcome and con is your items like [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► dude we got a ship or three [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► we're not on the sand planet anymore we [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► can go anywhere we want [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► let's get out of here and cut his condo [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► no I gotta get Kirk it doesn't matter of [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► your high heat ask me that's I mean [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► that's it you know [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► easy and I said that's the point where [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► Kirk becomes the white well right at [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that scene yeah and you know these guys [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► are just too loyal to him and they're [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► not going to say no but you can think on [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► my god this you know he's lost it [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► we could be out of here we got the [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► remaining because we captured the [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► dumbest ruined in the Federation yeah [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► what do we need this work and he'll try [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► that again [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► no we're going to see that movie where [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► he goes later and we got Genesis we got [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► through a lot of what more do you want [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► let's get out of here now what's [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► interesting though is he does later [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► actually listen to what [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► joaquim says to him and he actually [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► forget what the point is but oh when [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► they're they're damaged and they're [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► forced to pull away right [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► he actually leaves us with your not so [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► far gone that he won't listen to his is [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► like whenever he fights first first the [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► argument right now and he goes and goes [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► you know commander is it that there is [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► some degree you could see that he said [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► some grip on reality but every so often [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► he slips kind of back into that madness [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► but right there is a thing there with [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► the council on the advice that he's [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► getting that's sort of when we get the [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► sense that this is now personal this is [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► no longer you know I you know that this [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► is nuts the band of marauders he's after [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► Admiral Kirk and I think the fact that [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► he made Admirals but pushed him over the [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► edge at marijuana that was it at at mira [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► that just push them over it and Tamara [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► at this point I made a note that is [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► common is a little obsessed with Kirk [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► analysis very good insight yes thank you [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► agree agree how did you catch that it's [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► subtle [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► it's subtle most of us would have missed [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► it it's true you have to really pay [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► attention to pick up that subtlety of [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► his performance is very cold you're [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► walking City le Larry it is where i am a [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► third watch you'll see it now i think [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► around the 30 second time i got so the [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► Genesis briefing room seemed the first [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► major like CGI in a movie [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► remember when retinal scans were science [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► fiction so I i would have my notes say I [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► get a retina scan of the doctor every [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► year its there's a picture shows you top [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► secret information [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► yeah I think about that scene every time [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► identify for retinal scan and it's like [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► yeah it looks good [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► come back next year but but it you know [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► we don't have glaucoma [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► yeah and this is where McCoy is again at [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► his cranky best right which is like you [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► green-blooded Vulcan this is bad spots [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► like whatever and in Japanese and you [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► know what I'm thinking I'm thinking this [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► is a kickstarter video it is it is sure [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► that's right it's the root cause up if [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► you give us up if we get enough backers [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► and frankly you know for 500 credits you [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► will get my call planet of your own will [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► take your visit the moon will just do [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► something for you [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► they really kind of blow it though [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► because they talked up and how it's a [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► life generating device but they don't [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► make any mention at all of how it's [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► apparently also a water and atmosphere [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► generated and and son it creates a [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► sun-times it does a lot of haha cool [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► stuff even indoors it creates a son [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► it's amazing it is it but I don't don't [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► but no the Kickstarter like bonuses if [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► you take it to 1 million credits then [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► we'll make dragons that's just so that's [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► just a little sweetener if we get to a [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► million obviously you can have your own [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► species yeah and if you have one guy do [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► all the fields for you slide apart fast [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► he'll Brandon struck me as you know I [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► said this is like 23rd century [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► Kickstarter they're putting it out there [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► is kickstarter video and the [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► Federation's alright will find you and I [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► will give the other is just the venture [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► capital arm arm you said they only put [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► enough to get the t-shirt though [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► yeah yeah and and the Reliant what [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► and you know someone had a good copy of [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► photoshop and rendering program is just [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► the demo showing you were just showing [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► you some graphic that's a little CTR [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► it's pretty basic bond it's all done in [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► flash 23rd century flash [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► oh I love I did you love one bit though [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► in that briefing well tube it's actually [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► the first is that is that I'd i love how [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► Kirk always sort of half rolls his eyes [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► when spot goes on what is magical and [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► there's a great instances where are we [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► going to do this again talking he's [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► talking to bones about logic and [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► incorrect size just go to the rainbow [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► over the other side of his head it's [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► it's a great scene and McCoys ranting [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► about them around that's what this thing [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► right it doesn't be used as a weapon for [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► of it as a weapon my god and furthermore [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► Spock there is great too which is you [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► must learn to govern your passions they [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► will be your undoing which is given the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► way this movie plays out is is prescient [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► in a different way [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► interesting yeah yes all right space [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► battle this is this is for my money I [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► think this is the best sort of like [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► tactical space battle scene that I've [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► ever seen and I there are Star Wars Star [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► Wars movies we've got the fleet of ships [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► and they're all coming on pew pew and [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► they're moving around are very exciting [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► but you know I never really get much of [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► a sense of tactics from that whereas in [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► star trek to we've got you know two [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► ships and and it's like a battled see or [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► a submarine battle it's it's it's a [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► one-on-one kind of thing and then you [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► can actually understand where they are [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► which in modern action movies is [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► actually quite rare and what they're [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► doing and what the strategy is first [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► when the Reliant sneak sort of sneaks up [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► right in plain view on the enterprise [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► and blows them away before they can turn [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► on their shields and then the the [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► reversal that happens at the end of the [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► scene just so much tension the music [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► James Horner's music is great in this [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► whole movie but here it's a it's State [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► Building vacuum is that starts coming up [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► the music builds and these were awake [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► capital ships should be finding they're [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► not dog fighting i'm gonna find around [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► each other and then you know is it with [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► joysticks is and perhaps later films we [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► discovered that the enterprise can be [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► flown by a joystick [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► but what I loved about this was here's [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► where we see Kirk slipping up he's a [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► half's he's literally a half-step to [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► slow and I i remember seeing this movie [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► even last night I was watching your [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► screaming raise the shield yeah that [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► states the racing shields [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► yes and and they're charging faces yes [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► and and they're locking on target [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► yes and I didn't uh it does support his [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► theory that he's going senile to be [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► honest [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► well that's why i said he is he really [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► is a half step slower this is where he [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► gets sort of shaking out of this [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► complacency and shakes the rest off [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► though i think is is this moment yes but [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► but true to your point he's still miles [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► better than every other commander in [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► Starfleet in spite of everything lost [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► his step [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► but once again seen that I love he's [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► looking up the prefix though he's got to [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► put the damn glasses on because he can [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► speak just the second card i gotta put [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► my hearing aid in got glasses on its [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► second turn around and say hi to tell [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► Conda to wait for him that I love that [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► it's whip them off turns around tells [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► con hold it and then put them back on so [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► we can look again and it grew up in it [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► as a theater actor and there's some of [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► this theatrical flourishes of the got [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► the glasses and it's coming through now [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► con but this is so great because you see [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► the wheel starting to spin with kirk and [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► this is the the archetypal Captain Kirk [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► has a trick to pull from the original [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► series which is he's figuring it out and [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► there's that I love the moment where he [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► says keep nodding like I'm still giving [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► orders but it's just not just keep it no [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► ever tell you that I gotta say I'm [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► working it out now [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► i do question the security ramifications [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► of being able to have a five digit pin [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► number to control some any random [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► because I had never thought of that [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► before as i watch this but I was like [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► what you can take over another starship [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► if you know a five-digit code my [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► password to get into my email is longer [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► than the code you need to take over a [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► Federation starship I i think it's i [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► think it's the Kirk as an admiral and [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► and they're on the enterprise they've [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► got like the the master key and then [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► they also need the encryption pin and [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► it's supposed to stop the runaway [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► starships yeah five digits and [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► and they're not even input on like a [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► like a number pad their input on a [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► series of individual switches and 0 [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► through 9 [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► what thats that's the tricky part though [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► you need to know the sequence of [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► switches yeah that is exactly what he [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► said I'm drop down down left right left [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► right be a their shields are dropping [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► there was one other thing in that scene [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► that I thought was a little bit strange [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► because he calls out Scotty oh do we [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► have anything now we're dead in the [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► water and purchase try the auxiliary [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► power is guys like oh yeah okay I didn't [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► think I think that everything smells [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► really good hour on the ship so so I'm [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► the C batteries in the warp drive we're [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► going to get so when you watch this back [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► one of the things that that is [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► fascinating knowing every single bead of [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► this movie is to watch the setups and [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► and we see the the mechanism for knowing [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► but shields are up or down like four [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► times before the moment where he drops [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► the shields on them and so when that [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► moment comes [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► you're like oh I know what's happening [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► at the little dots are leaving around [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► the ship and that means their shields [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► are down but they they set it up there's [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► like you know there's multiple shots of [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► different times of shields coming up or [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► down showing that screen and it is such [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► a wonderful moment I mean I know it's [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► just it's it's a they invented something [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► so it's in some ways it's a deus ex [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► machina but you know i love that it's [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► it's showing the characters thinking [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► about you know Kirk's advantages the [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► Kirk knows the rules here and even [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► though he's he has blown it by being a [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► step too slow [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► he knows things and this this ends up [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► being cons on doing at the end to in the [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► final fight scene is you know client is [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► brilliant but he's obsessed [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► that's one problem and the second [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► problem is the con is not from he's from [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► the 20th century and Kirk knows the [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► rules that he doesn't know and and so [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► knowing the prefix code and and this [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► time Kirk doesn't hesitate right he's [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► like drop the shields [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► fire fire fire and there we go for the [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► first time his age is not on our up on [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► liability [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► he's got experience he knows right any [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► lectures you'll have to know just you [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► know how things were going to know why [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► they were [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► right but we should know from space seed [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► though that Khan has studied the [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► technical manuals of the enterprise fish [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► really should be something that's in [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► there but he didn't think to to change [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► the prefix codes and he forgot his nine [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► right I guess that wasn't in the tech [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► manual I've it would have been nice if [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► there had been the scene where your [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► argument comes up into sir I think we [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► should change the prefixes no no thats [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► want him without history fix coat and an [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► expression of a space that's the first [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► time you see the old Kirk when he goes [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► here it comes on to number you just [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► stand by their side over its on the legs [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► and you know he would have just turned [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► change the password to Ceti alpha five [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► so really you could've guessed it easily [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► and then yeah might as well now a [TS]