00:00:16 ◼ ► podcast I'm your host Jason snow and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► convening another edition of our book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► club we are going to be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► trilogy of books by sci-fi writer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► guess I fine fancy writer John Walton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► we recommended her book among others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► extremely highly and and now we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/33">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► to talk about this trilogy of books set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► in an alternate history universe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/40">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► aftermath of world war two joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/44">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► hello to a diary it's good to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► does it make you feel good that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/58">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► everything you say you know is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► cause extra work for that poor guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► trying to make a supercut of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► you've ever said on the uncomfortable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► I don't know he volunteered to do it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► its own fault you you do your own grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► mr. yeah exactly right and now that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► be in there because every time you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► it's more work for him just talking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► also joining us Dan Morgan hi Dan hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► nobody's trying to make a super kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► anything I've said and that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► good thought well i would say it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► I mean the whole premise is god is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► doesn't say very much i like to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► that if you put all of Scots appearances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► together they actually do create some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► causes your brain to melt from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► he's playing a long game is very though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► i have no evidence to prove it now dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► you've only read two of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► alright so halfway through the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► book we're going to kick you off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► thought it was called half-a-crown for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► reason you've only read a quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► also joining us Glen fleischmann hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Glenn I i I've tried whole crowd but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► intolerant interesting that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► too much information but thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► I'm glad you're with us and you can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/131">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► here and also serenity Caldwell hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/132">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► hello i have read all of the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► well the ones that exist that's good all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► published anyway we will fire off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► so that you can if you have not read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► these books and you want a you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► tune out at any point will let you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► will give you some warning but to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► started maybe before we file off fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► off the spoiler horn i should i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► explain the first novel farthing before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► we give away too much about it it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► at one of the things I really like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► this book when I describe this to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► people is that it it has a great setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► it starts out as essentially chase you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► know an Agatha Christie novel in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/180">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► thought that was very funny the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► doing an all universe you know a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► Agatha Christie novel and for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► that's what it is and then it suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► is not that anymore but I i thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► was a great a great without giving too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► much away until we find out the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► horn and a nice setup that you you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► you're reading one book going into it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► you think you're reading one book and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► turns out that it's all a it's all kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► of a sham and you're actually reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► something very different as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► student of the appeasement of Neville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/215">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► attitude and sort of British Anglophilia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► leading up until British actually Leah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► I'm sorry pretty sure that whoever them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/225">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► yes there are four of those bridge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► terabithia leading up and into world war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► two even when atrocity started become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► because you know I've always been bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► no I felt actually felt like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► actually explored something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► critical to the British character beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/244">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► the science-fiction part of it that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► you have you know the events described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► you sort of branch off at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► point but you know there are plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► parts of the British public of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► leadership that we've been perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► happy to deal with Hitler I thought she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► had a great historic graphic basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► historical basis of where she chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► these very particular branches it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► arbitration make stuff up should have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► sort of create an alternate history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► years before the point she branched off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► and it don't know this because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► pleased by seeing what the outcome would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► be right because we should say that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► they win this book starts we're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► what we realize we're in an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► history where something has happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► World War tues progression has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► happened at the way that we thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► would but the wars are still going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► that you write history with Eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► Front more the Hitler's be able to wage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► because he has been busy on the western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► front either he subjugated all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► countries always has appeasement with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► England which made sense because germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► and england the Germans were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► sort of considered the the English as at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► least if not inferior you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► totally inferior not worthy of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► necessarily invaded so in fact you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► invasion of England in reality was part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► because it just wouldn't give up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► know it was it was sort of this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► bloody-minded we're gonna batter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► hell out of you because you won't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► know given to our Teutonic leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► well and then the the other thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► doesn't really come up as much although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► it's alluded to a couple of times is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► that this is also a war where America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► never got involved right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► yeah as I recall and someone correct me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► actually there is sort of a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► historical narrative change way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► America's not involved because America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► got decimated by the great depression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► and never came out of it so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► different i don't know i mean Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► Lindbergh is the president and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► yeah in America has not yet has remained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► isolationist essentially and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► has that is a change and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► changes in the inn in the the Nazi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► government's uh entreaties to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► British and it's unclear exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► the point of divergence is here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► because i never i recall no mention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► maybe it comes up towards the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► third book because it said I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► read but never any mention of Pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► Harbor which we can we started defining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► event there you lead the the the asian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► front does not really come into it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► much though I know the Japanese are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► mentioned in the third book i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► there's nothing the deals America's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/397">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► trying to appease Japan because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► feel like the war in Europe isn't theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/400">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► is over cool was it Coolidge I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► world war one was really where the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► ended its its isolationist phase and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► then you could see the return to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/408">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► right twenties anyway and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► American didn't want to get involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/411">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► more work to still very reasonable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► ostensibly with one burgers president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► and we're running the backstories our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► fan fiction versions of far things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► instead of trying to you know portrayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► the Japanese two minutes the Axis powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► is that Europe's re basically settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► with England and Germany deciding their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► positions and russia is being battled so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► America allies itself or the Japanese or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► take care of china and korea and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► rest of asia right now I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► stay out of it and be left alone of will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► fire off the spoiler horn for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► guys I think we're about to run into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► there's lots of fog spoilers are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► fog it's England it's foggy it's good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► what ends up happening is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► this uh what we're really watching here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► is a takeover the English government so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► this is a this is all kind of a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► there's a murder at the house that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► think is part of this Agatha Christie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► thing and we have two narrators there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► there's um our Carmichael our police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► investigator who will be the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► who carries throughout all three books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► and then there is uh oh what's her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► mrs. Khan Lucy mrs. Khan who is it who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► standing some she's from my I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► good family but she's she's married a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► Jew and therefore she's destroyed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► for social standing and what it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► out this is really relevant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► anti-semitism is is on the rise as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► part of this the fact that they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► deal with the Nazi government and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► and that she's at the house when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► murder happens and Carmichael comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► investigate and it turns out that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► this actually larger conspiracy and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► this murder mystery turns into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► quite horrible which is really a coup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► that and I takeover of the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► government by by these people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► not they are not very nice people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► know the kind of jerks khan by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► con con Edison is no idea her husband is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/542">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► this is this nice fellow but everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► view some with suspicion just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► he's Jewish and and her it likewise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and there's an interesting scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► she goes out riding and there's a their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► shot at and and it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► bizarre turn and it turns out there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► that they've like hired a guy to to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► as part of this cover-up to attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► people at this at this English manor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► it's just it's a crazy turn of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► where you realize that you're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► know you're not reading the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► yeah that's it again as a student of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► that era British history and say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► the anti-semitism that she describes was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► pretty thinly veiled and already existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► there's already that sort of restriction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► as there was the United States the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► it was all you know sort of under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► surface so she's tapping into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► notion that instead of that becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► less acceptable that you know the plight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► of Jews in Europe the entry into world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► post-war changes in English and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► a lot of above the developed world would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► make a semitism less less acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► it's like no no are good man our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► friend Hitler he's taking care of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► those lousy havoc people and those lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► Dutch and whatever he's take care of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► Europe well we'll have things well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► hand England including with are Jews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► yeah and it's and it's really i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► it's really horrifying what I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► saying to people is it starts out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► Agatha Christie novel and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► realize it's actually more like 1984 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► because really what you end up with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► this takeover of English government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► through this assassination that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► and the farthing set this with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► group of people who were who were key to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► the deal with Hitler that's cut that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► keeps the English it from being invaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► and instead makes them allies of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► Germans leads to uh you know they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/654">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► happening the rounding up the roundup of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► the Jews and and because Lucy and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► husband because she married a Jewish man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► David Kahn who have you know very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► smart man in the end up having to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► and and escape the country because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► they're going to be you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► going to actually he gets framed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► this murder because the whole idea here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► is to set this up as a Jewish conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► when in fact they're killing this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► because he was against these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► these anti-semitic policies and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► going to be to have enough power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► maybe change the course of events and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► they they killed him so that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► take a takeover and the got this guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► you meet early on mark Normandy Normanby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► who you view as being this kind of scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► kind of awful person and and maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► and in the end the result is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► that he did it that the result is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► wouldn't be profit tremendously oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► god this was only a little bit yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► had a little bit of an undercut with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► this book in that I was missing formed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► as you which was the first book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► series on Halfpenny first so I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► knew everything happened in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► that makes it a little less effective it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► does yeah it does it does take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► bit of thunder there's still a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► like in the first book i think even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► that you know sort of seeing how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► were put together we'd like a prequel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► mean you do except the industry where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► you've been doing has been spoiled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/748">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► you haha like you know who murdered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/749">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► person and felt like well alright I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► don't need to worry about that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► murder plot is still at mega through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► Agatha Christie plot in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► there are red herrings and you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► to figure out what the the mechanics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► of how they died in what and who exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► was involved but it turns out that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/764">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► mechanics of it was one of the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► aren't going to be allowed even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► our detective Carmichael figures it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► he does figure it all out he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► actually do anything about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► they've decided to frame David Kahn so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► said on that level it doesn't matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► then it also doesn't matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► there's this whole bigger issue which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► that Normandy is going to be Prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► Minister and that's really bad but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► but that's the whole idea is that 30 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► guy who gets killed is is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► somebody who could stand up to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► they're eliminating all possibility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► for opposition in this takeover of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/800">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► of the British government with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► fascists basically reminds one of V is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► for Ventura v for vendetta already has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► no no I mean straight it although less I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► mean you're a different end of the lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► be installed that thing it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► government's moved to a totalitarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► yeah and it's chilling there's a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► called one that for the life of me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► read this a few years ago and i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► it's impossible to find on google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► for novel called one there's no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► find I cannot recall the afternoon maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► someone will and it's this incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► it's like 1984 it's like this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► sense that it's it's there's the analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► of shifting to a totalitarian state that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► happens sort of so subtly and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► incremental steps that you don't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► notice that yes the boiling the Frog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► and I felt like one takes that to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► extreme where the state is absolutely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► totalitarian people live their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► more or less until they get caught up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► the apparatus when they fall off I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► even accidentally and that's this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► much more starkly painted but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► the ordinariness of it when you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► you know off the country estate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► they're kind of imaginations and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► it's an excuse it's the it's the horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► vessel thing it's the burning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► Reichstag they keep talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► it's the the martyr that's the excuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► then implement martial law and clamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► down and make everything much much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► worse thing that got to me was it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► interview with Ray Bradbury in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► the issue editions of fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► that came out mid two thousand or so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► what's fascinating about that interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► was always that you know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► saying to him also you know it's a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► about censorship right mrs. well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► exactly because the people in fahrenheit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► 451 sort of asked for the password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► soporific effects of you know being you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/905">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► know inoculated via television etc etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► and it strikes me is that this is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► of a similar approach to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► extent in that you have all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► who seem to be very into like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► hating the Jews already so there's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► like oh great this is just what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► looking for this sort of indicates our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► interesting approach to that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► shows that you know well obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► same thing has to happen in Germany to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► certain extent right is the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► despite how charismatic Hitler's and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► he comes to power there's a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► amount of complicity coming from the pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► general populace who are not fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► back against that and that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► very much what's happening in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► too and in fact is you know we go along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► and further books has become like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/952">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► were there not like harsh enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► was a great line in later book which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► precisely when someone says oh I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► you're a fascist the person chuckles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► says well I'd like to be or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► like that yeah well you need a treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► fascism very positively and it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► think of that is like a its soul is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► a loaded term from our point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► given our history it's weird to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► in a context where it's not considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/977">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► aight because if you call someone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► fascist today there are very few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► who would take that as a compliment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► now in the third book there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► also that line that is that is a fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► that sounds like fun action was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► bit of fun yeah one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► is true in this book as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► other two books in the series is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► alternate between the view of carmichael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► RR policeman who's investigating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► crime and in all three books there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► is a young woman who is fairly innocent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and brought up to believe sort of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► base beliefs of English society in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► challenged in some way and that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► in all three of these books but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► case you know we've got we've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► example of Lucy where she's uh she's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► through her marriage she's caused this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► the this kind of an issue and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► well good for her that she went ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► and has a mixed marriage even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► the snooty English people don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► but then you realize that we're entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► into an England where anti-semitism is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► going to run rampant and it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► much bigger problem for her but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► still got a lot of these these attitudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► that of end and you can see her kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► actually happening in her country as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► goes which I really like because you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► you see it you see that long slide and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► it's not you know it's not any server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► twisting mustaches of evil people write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► it's just one small move after another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► like you said it's like boiling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► water with the frog in it it's one small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► move after another that inevitably leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► to this terrible result it's horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► that's what makes them battling and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► think im gonna listen a spoiler i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► as the books progress as you get further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► from the branch we can talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► but i think especially in this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► book and and someone in the second it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► it's which takes place in a not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► distant period of time from the first so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► right on the cusp actually uh you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► get the sense of something that is so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► had a reading it actually be upset like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► watching the election coverage and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► forth because it was hard to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► three of them actually quite rapid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► the one after the other three books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► I had to keep reminding myself that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► wasn't actually the reality I was facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► even though it's sort of a time's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► rhetoric that made you think you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► be I i wonder how what how everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► reacted to reading this book i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► really affected by it and to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► where I didn't read the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► right away even know why I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► enjoyed this book and it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► those that is the second Joe wall novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► that I read I thought okay she's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► i'll read anything that she writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► because she's she's great and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► even if it's a book about dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► strangely enough she has that book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► Scott she does i'm reading right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► saying dragons wearing hats what's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► we see the spoiler alert i'm sorry too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► thin cloth that's right that's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► thing is that the turns out there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► exactly I to think Laura had with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► ah i just i spent like the next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► thinking about this book and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► because it is it ends so darkly that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► this is not a happy ending in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► totalitarianism and the the Jews are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► being persecuted and it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► awful and as somebody who in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► generally being against totalitarianism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► and fascism is also in it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► married to shut somebody who's Jewish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► i did deeply extra extra disturbing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► and I couldn't move to book two because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► i was a just it was very effective in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► making you think what if it were you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► a way that then I think I said on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► previous podcast of what we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► Paolo Bacigalupi right that one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► tricks was that he does just enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► put you in the mind that it's you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► that terrible situation he says you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► he does those tricks where he make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► that they're like blonde the refugees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► who have no money in her and are are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► fighting each other make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► they're blonde and red headed and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► like that he says that it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► can't just say a rich white Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► you can't just say this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► that happens to other people somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► else in the world who don't look like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► and Joe Walton does that too in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► book I feel like as I'm going through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► because it's set in England I have such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► 44 England and they you know they speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► our language and their us right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► see this happening and it makes it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► much more effective so I was really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► was really affected by it i wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► you guys felt just got to remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► let me think well I was I was I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► read them all in rapid succession but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► was quite hit by the the tragedy that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► the character of carmichael even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► first blow yeah I mean it's the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► it'sit's he's just trying to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► believes in the system for most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► book and he just wants to you know solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► this crime and he does solve it then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► is not allowed to actually bring justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► to the the situation and and they use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► his personal life against him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► threaten him so that he has to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► you know the thing that he doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► to do it all and just sit idly by and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► only gets worse for him in the next book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► so we should say that not only is our 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► protagonist I'm in this situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► she's married a Jewish man and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► Kai a huge compromise because what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► happening in the country but our other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► protagonist the the cop who just wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► it turns out he's gay and he that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► used that is used against him to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► not only is he not allowed to solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► crime but he basically gets a promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► to be under the thumb of the evil prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► minister and with this blackmail he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► cannot be kind of can't get out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► souls unitarian mind that at this period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► that's illegal aliens you engravers yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► and it's not really becoming a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► liberal society you know the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► well I mean and you know that that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► historical precedent to say it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► yeah how long you remember Alan Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► Alan himself because of what he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► face and yeah it's uh it's is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► the residence there's two is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► know they're Jews lived in Berlin during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► World War Two not that many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► there under the protection of a powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► Nazis who like those performers there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► a fiction they were told it can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► been converted in whatever and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► ordered the same thing it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► took a total ought to do exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► their master sponsors said they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► sent off the concentration camp so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► you have these sort of token you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► closeted homosexuals in England during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► this period would otherwise be sent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► to camps on the continent in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► where they shipped off all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► they want to get rid of the gym you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► whatever it's not that weird that you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► have people under the thumb that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► what Hoover you know did in this country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► i well it's all about leverage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► leverage over him and he's useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► can be controlled as opposed to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► else you put in the same situation who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► all I know is you got to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► careful that what kind of tea drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► this book apparently uh huh yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► turns out Carmichael city gives you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► given everything away been in china tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► your cable yet it's a is outrageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► your tea sir ren what had you end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► feeling after you read this book I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► feeling very very disturbed after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► reading the end of the first because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► first really does kind of build up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► the last couple chapters yeah she breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► down the hammer yeah yeah yeah well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► mean it's it's at the point where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► you know Lucy Khan and her husband have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► to basically go on the run and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► like criminals to get out of the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► and I you kind of really hits home for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► his picture is everywhere as this killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► and he didn't do it and yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► they have to they have to hide and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► change their appearance and try to flee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► because they are being set up and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► really yeah it's really tough it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► yeah and boy was it lucky that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► her governess ends up being somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► can go very conveniently shit people out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► of the country future Canada but I I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► finished farthing and then almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► immediately downloaded the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► and started reading like I ate it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► really strange because i didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► from the progression I didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► know that it would be a different main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► character I and the way the format was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► the books were going to change as as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► move from book 12 book to write I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► have expected to see Luci and can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► but exactly i was like oh well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► I want to know what happens to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► Ben Canadian French children but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► well that's the that's the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► thing I find about her writing style for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► these books in general is it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► very intriguing to me that she chose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► first person for loose for all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► her female narrators and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► female narrator in each one of the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► yes but they're different narrators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► right but all young young women who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► very fit into the culture and yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► then have a disillusioning moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► Carmichael is not first person each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► of them chooses a very specific way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► react to the solution but i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► Carmichael to me always stays you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► distant to a certain extent even when in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► the third book we get you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► personal past it's this it's a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► sort of screen because even though he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► technically are you know he's our link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► protagonist he's in all three of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► books I didn't feel like I knew him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► best until two thirds of the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► the 3rd book at which point sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► clicked with me like this is this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► thing is Carmichael story and the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► know the first person protagonists are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► just there to basically provide color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► which you don't really connect ok we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► going we're going to fire up the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► horn right here for the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► I really loved him that I just thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► something about about the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► characters written i just i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► enjoyed his point of view and his agony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► and and what he was trying to do to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► right and is there a little breaking bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► in this to where it's like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► I could be the head of Secret Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► and I'm gonna kill people and torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► them and set of torture procedures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► be all dick cheney and the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► first book is basically he gets building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► a good man and go back and forget all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► this nonsense yes which is which to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► is a very affecting part of that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► is the fact that he's basically so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► mean the key thing is he tells Lucy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► run right i mean not explicitly but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► basically lets her know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► coming to arrest until he calls he calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► Ryan called her and says we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► don't don't flee or anything exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► don't don't run away to canada weighing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► come over and that was for me the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► where i really started to like Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► because for the beginning of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► she's very she's and you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► this was clearly intentional but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► so fluttery and so like you know clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► she thinks about the issues but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► always sort of talking yourself down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► things like that it's just i found her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► little bit more annoying at that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► she's you know with the whole i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► that scene my favorite thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► entire book might be the scene where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► realizes they have to run so she goes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► and she's thinking very practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► about anything she steals a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► stuff from her mom that you can hock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► later for money and she just does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► right like she was like I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► think about it I just when did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► thing like all right here we go now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► starting to identify should take some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► pressure this precious diamond that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► been getting notifications accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► takes this huge diamond it's the pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► of india and then you end up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► scene with with Carmichael III also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► quite liked but where he essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► gets betrayed right by his sidekick Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► and you know and one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► sort of harder to get especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► read the second book first is why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► going to continue to what you getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► well why would you you know like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► would you continue to work with this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► great he doesn't necessarily have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► choice in the matter but also he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► forgives him right you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► well you know he was just doing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► job and it doesn't really hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► against and it's like East Germany were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you know Easter me and yes like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► found out later everybody was spying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► everybody and the recriminations in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► you know the sort of either still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► through it now material still being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► recovered in I don't how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► were nice to me or some tens of millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► right and some substantial percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the adult population at one point other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► was on stassi's pay and file reports as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► that's how you kept yourself and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► family from being destroyed and despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► the government's nature and its evilness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► most people were just under observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► they weren't harmed so you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► yourself all i'm doing is keeping things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► or this person to go to jail they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► this is just part of keeping order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► yeah this they reminded me of the lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► of others which is a great movie if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► haven't seen it about about the life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► spymaster and there's somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► being spied on and it's a bent one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► the best movies i've ever seen actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► lightness of being where uh there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► bit where covers the protagonist come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► back to Czechoslovakia was a bit we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► realize is one of his close friends has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► basically been informing on him all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► along and I kind of shrug those huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► like I guess that's what it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► and every now that's something all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► books is that there is that it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► like it's just this is the way the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► it happened so gradually and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► just--that's this is how it is now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► minister and you know basically we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► agree that that far think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► I got a little during in effecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► different i liked it it was a mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► it was hard to judge it for its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► merits yes he went by your situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► yes your unstuck in time and I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► unfortunately having to compare it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► Dorothy stairs who is also quoted in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► I mean clearly is an inspiration for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► these books and while this different you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► know deals with a very different subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► matter in many ways the the in the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► of it that is sort of plano module most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► tutor thesairs I found falls a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► bit flat for me and that's only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► absolutely fantastic writer and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► books are you know way up there for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► but it's still I still found them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► enjoyable it's it's it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► isn't those books right it sits inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► right now clearly now I mean those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► very strict laws are mysteries and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► know they're right in the similar period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► and stuff like that right where is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► is the it's like this more directive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► again that you have the mystery part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► not the most important part yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► altar mr. anticipating it so hey penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► is funny because it's the it's the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► to kill Hitler Hitler comes is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► come to to London for a visit and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► a play because of course that the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► good assassination attempt happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► theater that's just how it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► they were you out in public so so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► have while watching hamlet of course yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► so so hit was coming to see to see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► well he's coming for other things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► they're gonna happen to see a play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► with the Prime Minister he's a big he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► loves the theater Hitler hub and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► Carmichael is put in charge of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► or he's no he's investigating a bombing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► because there's a bombing we're uh an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► it's blowing up inexplicably why were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► they blow up an actress and it begins to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► unravel and it turns out that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► part of this this you know an artist / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► they were they were practicing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► practicing to blow up Hitler in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► energy bar exactly exactly wanna not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► amateur blow-up Hitler you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► it professionally you're going to blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► up Hitler you don't want to blow them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► a little you want to blow them up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► no half Hitler blow up something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► only you gotta really blow him up so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► so Carmichael is investigating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► which is funny because now we've got our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► are compromised hero here put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► case of trying to prevent people killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► Hitler and Norman B who are awful people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and psyche a Carmichael except whoo know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► yet been incredibly difficult as a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► don't know I i had a lot of trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► first of all I a lot of trouble with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► narrator who I just found also the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► the other characters viola who is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► actress who is at casting this gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► reverse which is a trend in in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► alternate world it's a trend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► theatre in london is to gender reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► plays so it's a gender reversed Hamlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► and she is she's kind of annoying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► just did the itch to her motivations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► just on like I don't know it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► oh why are you going along with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► plot well you're kinda shit laughing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► it's well yeah I didn't love with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► guy but are you sure she gets it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► she gets an overhead and and she's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► with the plotters and she's not she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► doing she's totally an overhead but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► goes along with it and yeah that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► kind of romance by the guy but also ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► side of really he's kinda wrapped he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► kind of a sure he's a jerk but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► mean he is a controller Irish anarchist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► it took me a very long time to peg the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► relationship between the two of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► then I realized and I wondered if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► it reminded me very much is I presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► least some of you have seen notorious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► very good movie it's a fantastic movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► but what gives what struck me about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► basically it's a simple it's a movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► which Ingrid Bergman is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► convinced to narc on her husband who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► like a not to use flee to South America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► or not is yeah more Nazi well he does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► Harry grant is the is the is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► the ue American spy who's like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► handler essentially and is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► convince her and they sort of also fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► in love is going on but sometimes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► treats a lot of time he treats her very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► callously and very coldly and his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► is Devlin which is like the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► I was like wait a second like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► that's the name of the character in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► penny to and so I wondered if some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► that dynamic was taken away or is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► of an homage to that because it reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► me very much of that same thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► even seen for their driving around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► car together and I don't know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► it's very interesting how many parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► started right there which is a master of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► illusion as we know from among others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► she can weave in I mean heard it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► its original but boy they're just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► many things that ring bells here without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► making it feel derivative you but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► right that file is a damaged it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► annoying character and she she's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► lot of she just kind of gets mixed up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► it and there's a lot of sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► well should I do it should I not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► and all the time you're trying to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► you know you do you have to do end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► having to like pull yourself back every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► five seconds and be like wait it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► Hitler of course you should love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► black yeah like that was the whole day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► don't know I thought that was a clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► it is cover it hurts my head a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► bit yeah I mean there's even a bit she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► meets Hitler and she's like I'm charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► I like this mustache when you're rooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► for Carmichael and then you like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► get that lovely scene at the end where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► officers like all the crap i just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► Miller whether he'll drive so at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► he does succeed in Normandy into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► warding this plot and and Hitler is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► unwanted unwanted Normanby is wounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► but survives and there is a line in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► third book where we're Carmichael says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► what we've been thinking in the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► book which is I didn't realize until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► after it was done that I could have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► done nothing and they would have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► been dead and that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► better if he just he just literally his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► his policeman instincts take over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► that and that's the just wants to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► he's the guy doing is just doing his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► and and we're so programmed in watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► this in in reading this book to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► crime to be solved you want the cracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► are all be a virgin when our friend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► do his job and do it well we don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► know all these things we want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► happen and then you have to say but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► Hitler just kill him right but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► Hitler even though even though it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► actually a good thing that that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► been set upon by his superiors easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► he's doing his job and in some ways with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► Carmichael I mean that's all he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► right first off he's being blackmailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► basically and you know this is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► thing it's what he knows how to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► and so he does it and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► compliance of all the people to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► comply with this situation and yet he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► enforcing heat you know it's the gay man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► that in the in this in this of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► oppressive society and yet he's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► who's enforcing enforcing the society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► and keeping it together even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► completely antithetical to everything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► believes because it's his job to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► which is which only gets stepped up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► the third book when he's got even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► authority is his reward right in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► okay great thanks now you're the head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► yeah i think is cute everybody yeah joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► yeah best promotion and yeah excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► work in saving Hitler he gets a medal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► believe too i think it was like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► environmental and get ya to Germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► metal music he gets to fly there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► he's got the Zeppelin privileges now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► our out of the state there are selfless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► by the way in the in the key question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► are are there Zeppelin's is elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► history and all these books not only is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► it a parallel universe and that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► that there is Evelyn's but also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► Germans are successful in the war and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► course the Germans love the Zeppelin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► cuz you know reception is there really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► German where the earlier on is it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► the that's the thing if you ever wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► if your if your reality is shifted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► your inner alter history Mars have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► check others up against you as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► maybe twice if you're in an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► timeline yes we had this I i was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► to a friend of mine just yesterday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► she said Zeppelin's are so impractical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► why would they have issues watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► fringe she was watching the the edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► they're slow there why would you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► them and I said the only reason you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► to miss to say hey we're in a parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► universe that's why the resemblance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► Zeppelin that goes around occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► in the bay area giving tours and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► sought out the window and I had a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► of like who's the President and charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► lindbergh know it's what color is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► Statue of Liberty mr. Bitler is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► president actually has no president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► whatever what happened was i saw i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► the I saw the Zeppelin and I said wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► second apples the most valuable company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► in the world the giants won the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► series we got a black guy in the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► house and maybe we are in a parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► universe the Zeppelin problems it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that's right but I promise for your butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► so I liked it I liked this book even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► viola is really an annoying character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► because i really enjoy Carmichael coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► to the fore here in solving this solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► this crime that you don't want him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► solve and and yet you know this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► there's not dead they know is not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and and what's interesting too is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► in violence narration she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► narrating at which you mean the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► assuming that means I'm next giveaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► probably because she's able to narrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► it and as as it goes you get hints that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► not in a very good place here well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► this is interesting to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► because you do get this despite the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► that those characters marry in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► person and i think one was arguing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► you you always keep your distance from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► carmichael to a certain extent was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► narratives are far more colored right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► because in Lucy's case anyway she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► written it down right that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► her that's her bones are counting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► storm wise comes back certain extent i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► don't know if you get that as much with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► Viola explicitly but I also there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► something in the third book to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► extent that I've read now where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► narrator remark something about well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► know that's how I remember it now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► that's how I'm relating it or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► like that so you also get this idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► sort of a like someone recounting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► story right whereas the ones with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► Carmichael are actually you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► moment right you're Willam listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► him so in some ways you are more distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► from his thoughts but the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► you're closer to him because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► right with him as he is discovering all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► these things it's not done from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► retrospective position i liked a penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► what let's move on if there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► objections to talk about half a crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► and spoiler horn hit Dan and now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► sorry Dan that's the spoiler someone why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► Carmichael so half-a-crown your book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► just read this last week I I space these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► out a little bit rather than completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► consuming them in one you know in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► sitting or or very short period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► Carmichael has risen to basically being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► Englishman stop the English to stop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► yeah well of course when they have t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► exactly and and so now he's he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► charge of the secret police and end is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► still under the thumb of Normandy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► now this wounded guy him and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► more extreme elements of society that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► are kind of conspiring against him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► is really scary because wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you know it's like he's not bad enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► we need somebody even more extreme and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► even more evil is soft on terrorism but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► they are building a there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► building a concentration camp in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► so that they don't have to ship their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► prisoners to Europe to have the progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah that's entirely things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► going yeah things are going swimmingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► british-made that's right and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► and then the alternate story here is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► ward basically who is the daughter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► his partner who gets gunned down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► in the showdown at the end of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► yep not right like they're in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► and get out and he gets yeah he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► shot so it sort of way the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► narrator here is his ward so he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► sort of adopted her his partner's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► daughter because his partner's wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► written left them and and so he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► doesn't really raised her he sends her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► off to a series of good schools and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► gets a a education far beyond what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► essentially and she knows all these high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► society people and she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► introduced at a at a I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► what it is but to the queen that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► yeah she's coming out as a deadbeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► coming out year it introduced to society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► yes she went to a finishing school in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► Switzerland and he's gets her anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► that she needs because he feels totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► guilty about the fact that his partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► was shot in that previous book and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► can get whatever she wants because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► the head of the secret police secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► police yeah they also speaking of coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► out he's also managed to disable her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► gaydar while she's growing up so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► she's incapable of perceiving that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► and his partner Jack are in love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► potentially sleeping together but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► while she's there is mad his office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► she's off at school most of the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► think it was easier what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► you live in manservants it was easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► that's my true feeling and and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► whatever she never stayed with him now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► oh is that right no she did she live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► with them during when she wasn't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► no no no she says that she had a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► but she almost never stayed there she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► was always with friends or she was off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► at school and she she basically never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► mean he heat she was his ward but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► arm's length sort of the whole I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► think I got that he never stayed I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► yeah you got you got the sense that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► was unwell wouldn't be proper just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► because I guess that's true to confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► that there's a lot of you know I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► bring up at this point that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► things that it sort of gets a more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► more so that the books like they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► kinds of homosexuals this book and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► kinds of things and you're like it she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► she dwells a little too much like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► realize the plot device is part of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► blackmailing people because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► then the under the thumb but the Prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► Minister is gay and the guy who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► killed with his name in the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► he's potentially maybe he was gay but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► he was having an affair it's like lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► in the third book there's the guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► like that in high up in the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► who write who is actually sympathetic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► getting rid of Norman B and he's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► too big a get some is fine but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► the funny part is i think she deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► it's a little cold and this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► what they call the Apollonian what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► Apollonian was like a name remember yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► that in numbers book Athena Athena yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► me and this is something that yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► yeah it's their their their code for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► it's just a little coy I think in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► ways there's a great scene within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► half-a-crown ricky carmichael takes jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► to a gay bar like one of the only safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► gay bars oh yeah in London and he hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► it he doesn't like that is an attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► digging that is a fantastic scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► because thats that moment that is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► of the moment where you really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► start to get a sense of carmichael and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► it is almost in the inverse because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► he takes Jack there because it's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► anniversary and we've seen Jack a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► bit but he's not really been much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► character and here it's sort of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► know you see you think about him having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► to act like the manservant and be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► background all the time and wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► his life would be like and then here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► get the reverse switches that Carmichael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► does what he wants and goes to this club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► and hates every minute of it and ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► talking to the bartender for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► while the bartender listens to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► sorrows and sort of understands the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► bartenders do and the bartender's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► should stop talking to you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► you're your guys gonna be jealous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► that's fascinating to because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► it turns out that the the emissary from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► Imperial Japan who's going to the piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► tortoise is there uh it's it's just and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► that there's some really and I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► imagine it actually is a movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► there's there's a scene where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► there's some of some of them in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► are dressed as women and there's a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► who's passing fairly well as well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► woman and they dance and it's just I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► thought this would be this great scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► in a movie because it's it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► it's completely inverting your usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► expectation of a man and a woman on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► dance floor and it react it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► i really love that scene because it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► so much and so much about the oppression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► undercurrent of society and these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► are involved in this terrible society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and yet they have this one place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► they can go and then also contact the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► Carmichael just hate it it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► everything about that part of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► it's just not part of who he is so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► this this book is interesting because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► it's a it's clearly they want the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► book because it's come to a head things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► come to a head right instead of it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► Carmichael you know is is getting Jews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► out of England on the side while in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► investigating things and doing horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► things for the government but no in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► he's got powerful enemies they know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► can blackmail him as well it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► the other police force and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► infighting because this is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► government is starting to crack up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► little bit mirror these these competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► factions and and and the plot against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► Norman B and it comes to a head where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► his ward is arrested because she goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► this fascist rally because it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► fun fashion that sounds like a kick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► but there to fascist well thatthat's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► things that turns it turns into a rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► that's an anti Normanby rally because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► and then there's a riot and she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► arrested in the poll leader of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► police feels like he can use her against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► Carmichael and Carmichael duh does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► increasingly dangerous things because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► doesn't want to be pushed around and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► think he feels on another level like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► sort of has nothing to lose and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► all falls I mean it all falls apart kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► of pretty dramatically to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► where he first off he just walks up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► the place where the transferring her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► from one jail to the place where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► going to torture her and just says we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► taking her which shows that his attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► is the watch can do whatever the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► the world we're going to take we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► gonna take her we're gonna walk away we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► just like wow I mean totally you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► totally outside it whatever we think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► the society it's like totally against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► the rules to do something and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► whatever I'm the head of the watch i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► do whatever i want but what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► that they he takes her and they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► Jack and that's that that's the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► as many many things that happened at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► end of this book that are positive they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► he he kills himself rather than give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► secrets about Carmichael and which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► it's it's terrible and there's a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► where Carmichael thinks about giving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► girl just to get his guy back and feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► incredibly guilty about it afterward but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► so you know he ends up on the run and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► thinking I i don't know i read it as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► know i'm reading a series and you almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► expect the premise to stay steady and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► instead she blows it up like halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► yeah i'm i'm gonna tell you right off i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► have it was really disappointing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► I felt like super like you say she broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► there's too much change there's a she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► tries to pack too much in and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► get the Irish revolutionary who is a war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► hero comes back and I do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► where it's barely explaining i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► at the end with the sort of giant she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► yeah well I wanted to say really quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► about the three female characters right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► was saying earlier on so as not to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► away spoilers that you know they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► make very specific decisions and in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► based on their class I think and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► it's very interesting and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► fascinating that the girl who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► brought up entirely in high society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► chooses to flee rather than face you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► know fascism and everything that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► on right the girl who was brought up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► high society and then turns her back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► who is viola because she's I mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► established that she's pretty she is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► you know a used to be an artist anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► like that shes black superficial burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► she spurns that she decides if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► decides to basically blow up it would ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► light and then we get we get rolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► royces daughter Elvira who is by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► rights and means a commenter who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► been given the rights of a noble and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► chooses to basically use these and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► them into something like Carmichael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► investigate and uncover and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► yeah so so II I i kinda like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► that everything gets blown up and falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► pieces because this whole series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► about like weird and dark and England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► and bad feelings and all that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► surprised by the end of this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► because she tries to put a happy ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► on this series and and I it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► bit of a queen ex machina well no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► in the end in the end it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► but the spirit of the British people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► comes two comes to life at the end they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► don't they don't like the fact sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► people to a concentration camp on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► that's fine but we're not going to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► a concentration camp here that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► and the Queen has something to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► it and mcqueen you know i get it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► know i mean it it's nice that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► happy ending but it didn't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► seem particularly realistic to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► that would be the solution to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► this is that they would you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► would they would take his police files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► that proved that Normandy was involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► in the plot from the first book and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► give it to the Queen and simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► hit you no virus talking to the queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► and the guy who got the book from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► carmichael is waiting right behind her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► to give the book to the Queen a in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► know she wanted a happy ending so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► gave them one she's giving the speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► she's giving the speech the Queen gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► conference which is sort of dividing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► the planet into different realms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► she's giving this talk about England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► turning its back and whatever i'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► well he might just choose to invade this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► point all right right because he's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► but he's like this point and I'm we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► talking about 19 what 64 65 Hitler this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► point is an older man and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► while germany's you know we gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► this is a mellow hitting hell yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► they and their extended because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► carving of prussia and they've got mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► thatthat's I did wonder about that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► that what are the consequences of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► for England England end up getting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► getting attacked or do they just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► democracy it's not as well it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► replacing Normanby doesn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► mean the backing off a little bit is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► the same as turning their back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► well that's what Carmichael kind of says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► the book where it's like yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► kill Hitler and kill Normanby but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► country is so far down the rabbit hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► fascism that a new leader is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► to magically cure it's a slow process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► but that's why her for her premise here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► is that is that enough of this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► that it's a bridge too far that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► society that the oppression gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► little too extreme and people who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► go along with it to a point it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► they push it a little too far and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► people say oh well this is indecent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► shouldn't do that and it's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► the like the concentration camp opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► up and there's that scene where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► on the TV show and they announced so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► we're gonna have a concentration camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► right here in England and people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► to feel like what wait a second that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► not right so that's her premises that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► pushed far enough eventually the fraud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► realizes that it's in boiling water and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► it jumps out well I guess what she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► trying to say i think that people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► gradually more and more comfortable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► it but they found themselves in like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► East German situation you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the wall comes down and there's not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► to send in the center sort of shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► off to the continent by people like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► fact Carmichael in the watch but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► know they're they're sending people off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► all the time and he's smuggling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► out of the country and you know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► has done to send but you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► thing that I didn't like in the in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► book to is that protest on the peaceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► protests but the the watch and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► police are apparently someone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► extended to with all the security that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► has to happen and you know they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► made every other person a policeman or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► watch officer so the peaceful approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► to start to happen and chemicals like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► yeah let's not crack down on those let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► let those just go make sure nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► happens and it's negative sentence at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► the name of his so number two guys in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► shipping out jus secretly and his Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► himself is like the token jew and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► watch to show the third tolerant or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► I that that whole thing we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► Jacobson just sort of that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► enforce this will be more peaceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► protests and nothing can go wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► that and then there's enough peaceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► protests covered by the media and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► oh my gosh these terrible thing as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► she's watching people being exported no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► sent away for 20 years to concentration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► camps natural like well I really rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► didn't like that I think things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► gone a bit too far so it's time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► change things i thought it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► yeah although I mean to be fair to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► Ben queen for very long at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► she would have only been Queen since 52 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► so Malia was a plot about this okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► leaders coming back and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► actually a really fascinating thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► that her her uncle who was the king who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► abandoned he advocated because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► wanted to marry American device a wallis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► simpson action is he in this and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► he was in reality accused of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► Hitler sympathizer yeah and he fled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► you know when he abdicated lived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► France for a long time and so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► book he is basically a part of the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► to overthrow I mean you get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► that it's part of its going to overthrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► the government and he's gonna basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► come back and re-establish himself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► the king and get rid of the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► Royals and all of that and and put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► new fascist the government and so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► Queen on one level you know this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► affected her too and she's young i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► she's she's she's young and came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► power after all of this had already gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► on so in some ways you could if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► this is the Queen the young Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► feeling like she actually can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► difference this is the one place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► she can step in and and get her country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► back on on the right track but i do love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► the logic though it's a time there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► this point when Russia with his are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► know he will likely only desire knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► about what was happening it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► that you know if I don't get word to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► this isn't that there's a movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► in which a very early film in which that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► sort of portrayed of these are finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► being told that he's like yeah whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► i don't care president's gonna go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► know that like me and that's it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► well only the Queen wouldn't know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► this young woman happens to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► right position to know the whole just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► happens I easy sequence which she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► her dress and she manages to change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► she goes the debutante ball and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► suggests the queen of Queens man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► then you get started and she didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► went there looking for around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► streets they're not looking for her at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► the debutante ball strikes lie would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► look for her to do so and yeah I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► I think there's nothing the Duke of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► Windsor plot just goes nowhere sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► ridiculous the Irish you know IRA guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► who becomes a war hero and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► as part of the plan the second 1i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► well I'm like any shoots he tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► shoot Hitler any missing like yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► what the hell was that like why did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► even introduce him and then the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► gold of the of you know the else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► daughter she finds her mother again yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► I refines the reminder I would abandon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► her great the stepfather is great too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► and ok no each other all these years for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► what what what yeah Scott what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► think I'm I I don't remember much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► this puck yeah even though that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► lambing and obviously i don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► about the Zeppelin's whoo Zeppelin's uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► obviously talking about it now has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► recoup by my memory and I just thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► that the aisle I looked at the book as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► character study of carmichael and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► is trying to fit into this system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► he's an outsider right and then because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► it is his homosexual miss yes and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► he's trying to be something that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► isn't because right can't tell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► about it right and that he becomes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► more of something that he isn't and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► he tries to work against the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► while he's in the system but he's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► you know killing the Jews and helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► the Jews and he's just being pulled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► so many different directions and he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► wants to see Hitler died but he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► because that's his character and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► the end you know his his lover is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► and his job is gone and uh who knows if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► he's really changed anything or help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► anyone and it's just kind of it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► I just don't like him sort of going off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► jauntily like well jack is dead isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► that terrible i'm like oh no no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► agree I think he's I I didn't read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► I think at the end he is he's what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► be interesting if there was ever any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► more writing in this in this universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► what happens to Carmichael now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► he is sort of he's lost everything at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► this point i mean i guess he's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► young Ward who didn't care about other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► than to make sure out of some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► obligation that she was okay but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► it disturbed by the fact that he's gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► because she's told that and she has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► feelings that somebody in that society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► apparently would have about that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► is he is not offend ya and his partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► is gone and his job is gone and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► he's a representative of this evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► period in history that that where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► he's a war is a terrible terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► yeah an example of poor human-rights who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► Hitler's something yeah so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► he's he's um so that is fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► is the dark part of this and I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► that i think Carmichael is the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► that this book is it's good I i liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► isn't as good as the other two and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► ending does seem a little bit too like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► struggle to have a happy ending but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► Carmichael story and and seeing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► I thought that was I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► really good and he really came out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► no and it is so it's so sad look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► will be two-and-a-half quit it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► off the truth reconciliation committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► meetings after the after democracy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► well I mean I'll i actually II it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► funny I I wonder you mentioned that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► is essentially a criminal and I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► if in a reformed Britain that they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► put on trial it will work returns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► and then they would have to bring up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► then that's when the cons come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► explain that he helped them escape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► that they bring the Jews who he funneled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► to Canada and other places and I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► carmichael oh he could go all dr. on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► and travel the world bringing democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► another you know bring going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► Germany with all of his knowledge of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► the international relations e ad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► toppling the government's they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► coming to America and getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► yes he's not he's been a guy who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► to change the world he just wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► his job and and have people are brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► to justice and he just sucked into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► whole kind of weird political happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► that he has no control over he's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► pawn for all these forces all and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► just wants to live his life with Jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► and be left alone and you know solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► crimes but he's suddenly you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► end he's a Gestapo head and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► know the Queen he's out of work and jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► is dead and yeah it's really I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► have a moment I mean I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► realistic that did it would be like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► you know you you can't be here anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► so you're gone but at the same time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► kept saying but but wait he's good he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► he he you know he made all this happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► can't somebody isn't there somebody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► there like the guy who brings the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► to the Queen say this is Carmichael's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► he was funny he was funneling Jews to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► Canada all the time he's not a bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► and you know but he but the tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► there is that as the queen says he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► Normanby his creation even if if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► turns out that that's not really true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► he's perceived as being this horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► person who is the head of the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► he's part of the Normandy normally thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► and so he's on the outs which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► realistic that he would be treated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► way but you you you look at that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► think it's it's just it's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► because he you know he he had he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► the reason we got to this point but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► also did all these terrible things as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► the head of the watch and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► continues but also it was responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► for the death of lots of juice yet I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► save Hitler and he saved it lacks so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► this trilogy in in the end we like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► let's go around the ren yes I think very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► much so is very very disturbing but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► a fan of alternate history always even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► when it's terrible and these books were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► good yeah it's you know this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► common you know what if the Nazis won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► World War 2 is a commonplace all history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► subject my i like how how different this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► treatment was from some of the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► that i've read that you know fatherland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► and James Hogan had a the produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► operation which was about an alt alt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► world war two and they're there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► travelers is important ones you brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► the full dick one the man behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► high castle yeah uh Scott recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► well I i think i recommended it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► people on this podcast and hence the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► podcast so yes I nude your i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► recommend it I thought it was very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► i mean it's very sad so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► looking for this and uplifting trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► perhaps don't read this but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► haven't enjoyed the fact that I i spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► a week dwelling on how shocking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► awful the first book was I mean it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► resolution of it I liked it but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► know you have to like the dark sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► ending makes you have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► things and record question your life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► all that I you got to be in that mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► it's not what I would call a beach read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► unless you like to go on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► winter cold bloody cold beach and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► shivering this boiler hard keeps going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► yeah sound poor me you're mean you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► but yeah I think John Walton as is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► fantastic writer and so and i will read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► all of her books and i'm reading the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► dragons thumbs up to her but acts mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► thumbs up Glenn you too happy I i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► so lengthy elsewhere the podcast i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► just say yeah I recommended even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► I'm disappointed with half-a-crown not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► so much that they don't read it unlike a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► lot of the trilogy's we discussed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► this book RSS podcast looks part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► podcaster I think it's not a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► finish as I'd like she does tie things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► up and the first two books are first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► especially second quite good and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► third weaker but as a trilogy it holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► together she tells the complete story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► and I love her work i'll read her over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► yeah i agree i agree this was this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► in the challenging sense of enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► but and fun how she mixes a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► different stuff together like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► Glenn the master of illusion she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► got lots of bits of things that she kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► of sticks together and if she was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► writing a knockoff of a of a manor house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► mystery it might not be so effective but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► different kinds of things in the blender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4020">TS</a>]
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01:07:10 ◼ ► nothing like these books book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4030">TS</a>]
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01:07:15 ◼ ► it's completely different tone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► indifferent obviously all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► are dragons so that's quite different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► gas but yeah she's a she i think knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► yeah she's good writer she's written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4047">TS</a>]
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01:07:32 ◼ ► groups groups is role-playing game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► system drop yeah and she writes a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► should say she writes regularly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4057">TS</a>]
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01:07:45 ◼ ► of interesting commentary she's done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► reread of the Patrick Rothfuss books the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► name of the wind and wise man's fear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► great detail and a very detailed reread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► and really good stuff makes me want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► reread them and and go along with it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► almost like she's annotating those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► and so she's she's a good writer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► when she's writing about other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► stuff so that's that's kinda cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► that she's out there in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► blogging on tor.com so and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► her voracious reading I get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► she reads a lot that has really informs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► her writing because she has so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► different interests in so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► literary style that she likes that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► can play with it and get create all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► these crazy mixed-up books that she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► alright well I think it's time to close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► up the the book club for this week for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► I i guess i should say we haven't picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► what our next book club book will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► Scott have you picked if you told us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► what to read yeah I suggest the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► don't know if anyone is interested oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► yeah well have not begun yet what we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► something together we'll figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► and one way we do this is that for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► of you who follow along with the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► club will post it on our Twitter feed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► the uncomfortable and we will post it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► our Goodreads group you can find there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► a incomparable good group on Goodreads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► and we'll post it there as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► you'll know what we're reading and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► can read it and then listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► podcast and maybe it will be Cloud Atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► I don't know I I would be fine with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► i saw the trailer for that movie and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► so we should read the book so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► don't have Tom Hanks in our head where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► yeah you probably want to read it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► good point good advice yeah yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► I've Scott that hasn't skipped hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► high praise yes yet the at the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► but I you keep the room for disappoints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► coming that's gonna happen just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► no alright so so until next time until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► we pick a book and come back and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► more books i would like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► guests Glenn fleischmann thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► IC Zeppelin and for reading any book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► if you see Zeppelin's then its alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► climate i'm speaking to serenity called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► you're welcome i'm glad i don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► memorize obscure British currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4209">TS</a>]
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01:10:19 ◼ ► yeah showing so I can be the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► there are too many things for that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► be shillings and Scott McNulty of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► who reads everything and and sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► everything and knows everything I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► yes of course and now we'll go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► the time machine and thank Dan Morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► who went away just say goodbye dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► thanks for being here even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4238">TS</a>]
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01:10:44 ◼ ► reading the third book as you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► been tossing the third book very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► i just checked for Zeppelin outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► window she keep always watching for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► example which is odd because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► no thanks Dan Warren thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► morning thanks you didn't even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► give us because he didn't want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► what he had to say about the third book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► until he finished it's nice that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► reading a while we're doing the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4265">TS</a>]
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01:11:11 ◼ ► the streets I think that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4271">TS</a>]
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01:11:15 ◼ ► of something that's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► so until next time thank you listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► for listening to another in comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► book club and we'll see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4281">TS</a>]
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01:12:12 ◼ ► Canadians are persecuted in great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4332">TS</a>]
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01:12:20 ◼ ► them to I don't even know again I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► nobody can I birria de they're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4342">TS</a>]
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01:12:33 ◼ ► episode title its well that's nice a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkbgnY/4353">TS</a>]