The Incomparable

00:00:01 ◼   ► the incomparable number 310 eight july [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► 2016 welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► incomparable i'm your host Jason style [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► we're here to talk about the TV season [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► on past now TV is to a sort of a 12 [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► month a year thing now but we like to [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► mark the end of the traditional TV [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► season we did an episode about all the [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► many superhero shows that are out there [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► but there's a lot more we usually at the [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► end of the game of thrones season we [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► talk about it so we're gonna we're gonna [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► do that tonight and we're also going to [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► talk about a bunch of other shows that [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► we liked over the last year basically [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► nine months a year that don't involve [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► superheroes basically so joining me to [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► talk about more TV from the past year [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► things that we liked and watched maybe [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► we didn't like them but we still watch [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► them that's a compulsion that happens [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► our might define panelist and more'n [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► hello hello [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► I thank you for turning away from TV [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► temporarily just to talk on a podcast [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► about TV [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► I literally finished a TV episode so [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► that i could come on to talk about TV [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► amazing amazing I is your commitment [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► you're welcome [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► only in Sims is also here hello hello [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► turns out you were saying on Twitter you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► you watch a lot more TV than you thought [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► you did when you put the list together [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yeah we I was frantically trying to like [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► us putting my going through itunes like [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► okay what if we purchased and I was like [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► oh we've spent more money on TV than I [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► thought we had so it's very exciting [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► yeah you lose track a little bit and [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► then you're reminded when it's time to [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► sum it up and you realize oh Erica and [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► signs also with us [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► hello hi yeah I've watch less TV than i [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► thought but i think i came up with two [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► shows that probably nobody else watched [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► all right but at least i watch something [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► gosh darn it it's good uh brian hamilton [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► is also here [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► hi brian i'm also quite out of the loop [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► when it comes to most TV but I've got [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► some unique things I don't think many [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► people are watching enough to talk about [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► my podcasts owe her a nice very nice [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► somebody who is the the one person here [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► who does not watch Game of Thrones but [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► he's here to talk about shows that [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► aren't game of thrones David lure hi I'm [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► just happy to say that winter is [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► here really inaccuracies yeah but yes i [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► have a nice list and also always joining [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► us for this season rap game of thrones [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► business is mr. John siracusa hi I'm [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► missing the last 10 minutes of the [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► second-to-last episode of asian car did [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► you know there are they became like to [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► our episodes at some point it's really [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► confusing and it's messing with my [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► scheduling but anyway that's a show I [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► watched the baby burn that off [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► basically it's sad that APC didn't have [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► a lot of commitment in it [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► alright so before we talk about Game of [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► Thrones for the second part of the of [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► the show and consult the show notes or [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► the chapter markers if you want to jump [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► to the game of thrones part not listen [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► to other things but i want to talk about [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► other shows that we watched that are we [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► weren't covered in the superhero episode [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► that we wanna do we wanna bring up and I [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► want to throw one out there first which [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► is one of the more notable shows that [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► the last year I i caught up on it after [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► the Golden Globe win for its a creator [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► and lead actress crazy ex-girlfriend on [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► the CW i thought was a real find of this [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► year a lot of fun name up a musical with [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► a funny title that made a turn a lot of [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► people off i think but a very smart [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► funny and self-aware musical series [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► comedy drama thing unlike many other [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► shows that are out there and I got [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► finally got caught up i watched all of [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► them and I thought it was great [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► I thought it was really great and i know [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► that some of the some of you have also [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► seen it John you you were praising crazy [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► ex-girlfriend I saw you and Rachel bloom [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► actually had a little Twitter exchange [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► which was kind of exciting [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► yeah we're besties yeah totally i was i [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► was charmed by it because I thought you [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► said is totally accurate i was totally [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► turned off by the title I didn't think [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► this this is not a show for me I thought [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► just didn't seem like something i would [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► be interested in but i also know nothing [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► about it other than the title so her [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► enough people raving about it and I [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► watched an episode of two and i was [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► surprised i was surprised by the singing [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► I was surprised by how clever it was and [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► how is in a different twist on the sort [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► of it's not it's not as cynical I think [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► as most comedies are and i'm not even [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► like a comedy sitcom kind of person [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► as it war on it's like there's a lot of [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the more of the same so the charm kind [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► of wears off because a lot of it is the [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► the novelty of that but i don't think [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► the show actually gets any worse I think [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► it's just always going to be this and [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► it's gonna be yeah yeah episode after [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► episode of this but I still like it i [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► still enjoyed and I will keep watching [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► it its musical theater on TV so of [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► course i like it and yeah it's it's [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► uneven for the first two episodes 3 [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► episodes but it it finds its footing a [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► lot quicker than shows like cougar town [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► which also had a really unfortunate [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► title and turned into a pretty decent [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► yeah i was gonna throw don't trust the B [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► in apartment 23 with krysten ritter is [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► another example of a show that I [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► literally didn't watch because i didn't [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► notice but I looked at the title i'm [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► like yeah I that's not for me and I [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► actually thought that was gonna be the [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► premise of this show too and it's like [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► it turns out these premises these titles [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► can like they're notable and yet they [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► can shoot down there show ya just about [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► yeah but it's it's charming i mean the [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► just the videos I've sent people to the [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► videos of the songs just to say this is [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► what you could see weekly and you know [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► you've got Rachel bloom and Adam [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► schlessinger of fountains of wayne [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► writing music yeah and not just in one [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► style I mean they're hitting and you [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► know decades of of styles here and [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► nailing pretty much every one of them [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► which you know it takes it takes cojones [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► to do a fake music man song and do it [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► that well I am impressed by the fact [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► that the there are moments where I i see [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► where they're going in terms of the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► clichés and then I'm surprised because [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► I just assume they're falling into the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► clichés that they don't I i like the [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► fact that the object of her of her [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► affection [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► josh is not i would say a character that [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you see a lot on television in that he [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► is not the sharpest tool in the shed but [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► he he's a but he's a nice like a [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► genuinely nice guy and I think it's an [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► interesting combination that usually in [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► a soapy kind of story that guy is either [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► just a super amazing dream boat or he's [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► a CAD and this guy is not either of [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► those things he's just a dude [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► who is / is very nice but not [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► necessarily close to as smart as Rachel [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► blooms character is so I thought that [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► was interesting i I'm my own frustration [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► with the show was probably that I felt [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► like again that they set up a lot of [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► things that seem fairly obvious as [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► directions they were going in and then [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► seemed over the course of the season to [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► not be sure whether they wanted to steer [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► into the slide or away from the slide [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► like do we go against what we set up or [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► do we go with what we set up and in the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► the relationships of the various [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► characters over the course of the season [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► that was the part where I thought it was [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► kind of strange where it's like I see in [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► 4 episode was like I see what's gonna [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► happen she's gonna move to California [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► and because that's the premise of the [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► show the woman who's a lawyer in New [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► York is very unhappy with California [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► where her ex-boyfriend from Camp lives [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► and there are lots of songs and she [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► tries to pretend that she's not a [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► stalker which she kinda is but it's very [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► clear from the beginning that she's [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► gonna end up with the cynical bartender [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► and not the dream boy because that can't [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► be real and throughout the season it [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► feels like not like a clever will wonder [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► what is my expectation about this [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► relationship but more like they can't [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► decide whether they're gonna go with the [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► one guy or the other guy or what [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► and that that part III did feel like [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► almost like the writers just didn't know [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► what they wanted to do but it's a it's a [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► relatively minor quibble there's a whole [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► episode where they're trapped in a party [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► bus and it is the least exciting party [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► bus ever as they go to the beach [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► yeah it'sit's I i highly recommend it's [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► available on streaming now I think just [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► just went up on for streaming on netflix [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► maybe so young people check it out to [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► your point David I know nothing about [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► the show but I've seen settle for me [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► about 10-15 times just because the song [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► so fantastic and I thought oh ok yeah [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► this is AI know sitcom and they do a [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► cute little musical scene here I no idea [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► was a musical until just now so thanks [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► for selling me on it [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► oh yeah I mean there's there's a song [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► look up cold shower which is basically [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► you got trouble from the music man there [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► is a song that I [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► no entirely too many women have told me [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► this is their life a song called heavy [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► boobs sure yeah oh yeah that's a great [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► song that's an amazing zone its and it's [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► catchy as hell [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► oh god yes ya know it it is there [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► they're like to at least I basically [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► there to musical numbers every episode [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► is an hour long show which every time I [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► watch it I think it's going to be a half [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► hour because it's kind of comedy but [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► it's it's not into hour-long show so [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► it's breezy and and on Monday nights it [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► was a nice pairing with Jane the Virgin [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► it was yes [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► not the same kind of whimsy but two [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► shows that that sort of hit that sort of [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► perfect level of whimsy and just go with [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► I kind of wish that there are more songs [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► in it like maybe an ingredient maybe [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► it's kind of like the budget is showing [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► because it's like it's hard to come up [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► with it even looks and songs per episode [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► and they just don't have the time or [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► money to get more than that but because [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► they are so good it's like how much the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► whole show is like this and had just you [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► know like an actual music me like brief [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► brief moments of non-music in between [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► just to set up the next musical number [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► but instead there's lots of regular TV [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► show in there and the regular TV show is [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► like Jason's that kind of silly and a [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► lot of will they won't they [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► but at I think it's nice in that all of [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► the characters are messed up in some way [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► not a seinfeld way where everybody is [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► just a terrible person but that [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► everybody even the nice guy josh is not [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► like og perfect nice guy like everybody [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► has their hang-ups everybody has their [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► issues nobody is purely good nobody's [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► purely bed which I think helps them with [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► the thing they have to do to keep these [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► balls in here you can't have it resolved [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► because then the show is over [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► it helps you understand why might [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► someone be indecisive and why my people [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► not be able to find each other because [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► everybody's messed up in some way in the [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► show and you know it's it's kind of a [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► reverse like tomatoes a little later [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► like a reverse of the typical thing [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► where it's not a show for women but the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► show with actual women characters which [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► is now sort of it in the current context [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► coded as a woman's show and then the men [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► are the love interests and it's like [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► nice to see the love interest to [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► actually be real characters instead of [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► his cardboard cutouts like josh is a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► person who has good things and bad [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► things about them and what's-his-name [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► bartender guy [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► it has bad things about him but it's [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► also a nice guy on top of that and [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► instead of them just being defined by [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► their [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► the color or whatever you like you you [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► just you just mentally genderswap this [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► whole show it becomes a lot more [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► conventional but it's not it's actually [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► the other way around um and it's and [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► it's good for for a silly musical comedy [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► thing to have characters there you know [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► obviously silly but imbued with a tiny [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► bit of humanity both good and bad it's [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► it's pretty novel it's it's refreshing [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► and and E is science fiction fans might [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► know Rachel bloom before this for a song [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► she wrote about Ray Bradbury yes that [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► was nominated for hugo award the other [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► thing i wanted to say was that uh [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► there's a there's a there's some [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► interesting relationship dynamics [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► there's a strong relationship between [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► Rachel blues character and her a buddy [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► who works at the at the law firm that I [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► think is an interesting and and for [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► television more unconventional [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► relationship of two women who are who [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► are our best pals and become kind of [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► best pals on the spot and there's [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► weirdness in their relationship but it's [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► actually kind of great and the guy who [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► runs the law firm is a fantastic [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► character who discovers he's bisexual [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► about halfway through and there is a [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► song about that too [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► oh yes there is and it's great it's so [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► great so anyway it's a it's a good show [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► highly recommended what else anybody [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► else wanna throw out some show that [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► they've been like in the last year that [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► they want to talk about a little bit in [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► the same thing as when I gather from [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► crazy ex-girlfriend i'm really enjoying [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► younger which is another show that you [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► would not expect from something like TV [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► land but it's a really great show in [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► terms of real characters are doing real [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► things and actually you know it it [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► doesn't feel as fake as something like [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► Seinfeld it's it's nice to see a TV Land [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► evolving beyond hot in cleveland not [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► that there's anything necessarily wrong [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► with hot in cleveland [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► but but they're aiming at a broader [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► demographic they're not hanging at you [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► know 18 to 34 they're interested in [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► shows that human beings which is kind of [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► a shift for them some i'm curious to see [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► where that goes but it but younger is [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► like the first of the new the new wave [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► of TV Land shows [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► mm ali what about you some their show [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► out there that you [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► that you've been watching that you've [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► this is not a draft by the way I just [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► trying to draw people out nobody wins [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► there no winners here we're all winners [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► yeah overall winners they're all for [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► losers [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► yeah all winners around here at Steven [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► universe Steven universe is maybe my [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► favorite show ever [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► at this point and it's a cartoon it's a [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► cartoon networkcartoon and it's goofy [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► but it's it's it's so cute and heartfelt [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► in science fiction and fantasy all at [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► the same time and it has really strong [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► pro lgbtq+ themes and and its really [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► positive in a way that especially around [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► those types of things like I feel like [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► you know we get at things are getting [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► better definitely but but we talk about [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► the LGBTQ community and people who [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► belong in that community become [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► punchlines often times and it totally [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► completely not in Steven universe and [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► it's got songs so so speaking of [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► musicals and there are not every episode [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► but a lot of episodes have songs a lot [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► of ukulele and it's just it's it's a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► neat ride and they're easy to watch [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► their you know like 11 minute episodes [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► and so few by mana and itunes you get [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► you know two episodes per dollar [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► whatever three dollars or however much [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► it is and so yes Steven universe super [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► super Levitt my computer's named garnet [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► after one of the characters and it's [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► it's just it's it's wonderful it's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► beautiful i have not watched much anime [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► but from what i gather about the enemy [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► scene and my friends who are also to [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► Steven universe and anime the fact that [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► the characters grow in the way that they [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► do after a very light season one in two [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► seasons two and three where we are now [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► things have gotten very heavy and play [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► on expectations that Phoenix established [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► in the first season that blows my mind [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► in a way that I've not seen before and I [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► gather that's the way that a lot of [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► anime works you can tell that Rebecca [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► sugar and her crew are [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► super super into anime and another point [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► about the songs you mentioned a lien [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► they're not every episode [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► it doesn't feel like a stick to me that [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► facing and again not to say that crazy [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► ex-girlfriend is but I would not call [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► Steven universe of musical right now [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► cartoon show where people happen to sing [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► whenever they feel like it which is a [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► really nice change of pace where you [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► don't always expect a song but when it [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► comes you don't feel like I feel a song [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► coming on you feel like it's warranted [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► and that whatever they have to say is [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► better said song i love it i love this [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► episode of the uncomfortable is brought [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► to you by the zombies run virtual race [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► now running helps you get fit but it can [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► be really boring i get so bored by [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► running I need things to focus my mind [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► this is a virtual race that makes [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► running fun wherever you are anywhere in [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► the world you can head out to run five [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► or ten kilometers with your headphones [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► in as you run the app immerses you in a [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► thrilling audio story that specially [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► designed to match the distance you're [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► running you'll hear zombies clothes on [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► your heels you break into a vault it's [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► vital to the survival of humanity you'll [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► run further and faster than you ever [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► thought you could because with the [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► zombies run virtual race you're not just [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► running around the park you're running [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► to save the world [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► your entry gets you a thrilling audio [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► adventure series that takes you from the [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► start of your training right to the end [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► of your race you'll also get a prospect [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► technical running t of finishers medal [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► and a bunch of other great gear all the [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► costs $55 its way cheaper and more fun [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► than a gym membership go to zombies a [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► virtual race dot-com and use coupon code [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► incomparable you'll get five dollars off [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► of your entry you can run anywhere in [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► the world [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► it happens in the fall so sign up now [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► start training and get ready to run away [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► not with away from zombies [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► it's based on the zombies run app which [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► has more than 3 million different [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► players and more than 7,000 people have [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► run a virtual race on zombies run and [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► the satisfaction rate is ninety-nine [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► percent people love doing it so give it [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► a try zombies a virtual race dot-com and [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► use coupon code incomparable thank you [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► to zombies run virtual race for [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► sponsoring the incomparable one else [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► dan you got anything that you want to [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► throw out there [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► well I think this was a year that [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► started for me with a couple other [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► sitcoms that I act [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► really got to enjoy which were mostly [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► cancelled which was kind of a bummer but [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► on Fox i was watching a grandfather and [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► the grinder here actually ended up being [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► a pair of pretty good sitcom at the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► grinder [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► I feel like the fundamental problem of [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► the grinder was that it was a great [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► premise it had some great cast [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► there was no way in hell it was going to [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► be extensible passed a first season and [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► they had some trouble getting the rest [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► of the cast into that but some of the [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► premises of that show which is [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► essentially the idea being Rob Lowe is a [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► an actor who has played a super-famous [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► like lawyer on a lawyer TV show comes [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► back to his hometown in idaho where his [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► brother played by fred savage and let's [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► just applaud that casting there for a [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► moment is a real lawyer and decides I've [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► basically been a super famous TV lawyer [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► for several years [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► I can totally be a real lawyer and some [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► of the most brilliant parts that were [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► interspersing clips from the show that [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► he's on which is actually which is also [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► called the grinder and dealing with sort [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► of like just bizarre over-the-top bits [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► of this you know like that are kind of [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► all tropes and references to all these [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► legal like ridiculously old dramas and [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► they developed a very strong supporting [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► cast there were some really good gags [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► going on throughout the season i [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► actually won't spoil the last the last [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► episode of it but i think it does a [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► great job of sort of bringing the whole [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► thing all the way around and and there's [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► a particularly brilliant arc in the [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► middle of the season or so with Timothy [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► Olyphant who comes on and basically [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► plays the guy they have cast to replace [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► him like his long-lost brother on the [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► new version of the show they're [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► rebooting and he has some serious [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► community chops in there any plays [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► timothy oliver yes he plays himself [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► playing yes yes as the you as the person [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► cast to replace Rob Lowe's character it [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► is incredibly meta the only things that [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► really bugged me about it were that I [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► felt so bad for the fred savage [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► character it was like we all [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► so he's saying and everybody else kinda [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► buys into the you know Rob Lowe's [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► reality distortion field and you're all [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► just you spend a lot of time going like [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► what why aren't you paying more [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► attention to the same single guy but [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► some very strong supporting work from a [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► lot of the characteristic the kids in [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► Fred savages the the actors who played [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► his kids are pretty great and it's [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► definitely kind of addictive in terms of [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► you'll find yourself saying something [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► like Rob Lowe always constantly has [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► these catch phrases that make no sense [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► that people say like well you know oh we [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► can't we can't see this guy and he'll [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► just be like but what if we could [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► anything feel like that doesn't mean [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► anything you don't it'll just keep [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► rolling with it it's it's entertaining [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► grandfathered i really liked as well [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► which was John Stamos who plays sort of [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► you know he's turning 50 and he's a [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► restaurant her in LA and he's like [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► really you know black bachelor he's got [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► a life together and then discovers that [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► this you know woman that he had a [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► relationship with when he was much [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► younger I had a kid who is now growing [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► up and is now has a kid of his own so he [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► was in fact a grandfather and it ended [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► up being a really sweet heartfelt show [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► that was able to straddle that line of [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► like it just delivered all sort of like [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► you know really solid sitcom premise [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► that wasn't over Warren was was funny [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► and managed to be touching and sweet at [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► the same time and some great fantastic [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► performances there especially from paget [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► Brewster and Ravi Patel and a lot of [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► other great sort of supporting [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► characters there and and you know John [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► Stamos see again once again great [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► casting you find a role that John Stamos [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► was basically born to play which is the [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► basic totally self-absorbed but also [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► clearly like trying to deny that he is [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► turning 50 so yeah I think both of those [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► were were great if i had had the if I [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► had been called up by the Fox president [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► asked which one to save I probably would [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► have picked grandfathered if only [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► because i feel like there was more [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► potential for growth in there but you [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► at one season each I feel like there was [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► a is a pretty solid show that you could [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► go watching and enjoy and have a good [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► time with yeah i mean i'm i'm certainly [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► going to get the grinder on DVD just [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► because it was so enjoyable but exactly [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► i don't i don't see where it is in [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► season 3 season 4 but as a single season [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► it's gonna be one of those like classic [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► one season shows I fendi I'm if nothing [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► else worth it for the episodes also [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► where Jason Alexander plays the [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► basically the executive producer of the [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► show within a show who tries to lure Rob [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► Lowe back and there's a fantastic scene [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► where they're saying well you know all [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► the network it'll network loved in the [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► ratings you know all this stuff but none [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► of that's really important we both know [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► what really matters a Rob Lowe nods [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► knowingly and says what the fans are [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► saying on Twitter so if you have the [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► yeah the wish fulfillment aspect of all [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► people paying attention to what the rest [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► of us silly people think of these shows [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► it does a nice job of sort of satirizing [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► a lot of that Erica do you have anything [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► or you just here to talk about swords & [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► Dragons well you know I thought I was [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► just here to talk about swords & Dragons [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► but then I realized that there were a [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► couple things that I had watched they [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► just ended longer ago long enough ago [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► that my brain had forgotten about them i [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► watch the last season of The Good Wife [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► which I know Scott watches but he's not [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► here to talk about is naughty again it's [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► got but I I enjoyed most of the season [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► I think this is a show i started [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► watching with season five and never felt [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the need to go back and watch anything [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► earlier so I've really been enjoying it [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► since season five and there has been a [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► subplot that has popped up for the last [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► couple seasons with the NSA tapping [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► Alicia's the main characters phone and [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► listening in on her life and basically [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► treating it like a soap opera right [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► which is very meta because you know [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► that's that's what we the audience are [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► doing training like soap opera and just [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► kind of watching and listening in and [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► and that was fun that that popped up [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► again and I except for the episode that [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► took place in canada was very fun [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► yeah they did please please do not have [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► American actors try to do canadian [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► accents just don't [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► I feel very strongly about this now that [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► I live here yeah it's just all kinds of [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► wrong the last the very last episode I [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► don't really know how most people felt [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► about it because I didn't take to [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► Twitter and look around and find out [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► I myself was not particularly a fan I [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► think maybe it worked better if you've [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► been watching the show from the very [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► beginning because the last seen sort of [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► mirrors of their very first scene and I [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► read about it afterwards and it makes [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► sense and i think i can understand it [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► but it was one of those endings that [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► wasn't much of an ending and we left [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► unless things very open-ended things you [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► know there's there's a great big love [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► story kind of at the center of the last [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► couple of seasons they years ago killed [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► off the main love interest which was [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► apparently a big deal that was actually [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► what got me to start watching the show [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► like that's a bold move i wanna i wanna [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► see what what the rest of this show is [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► like and I completely fell for the guy [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► that she also felt for later on and [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► there's no official resolution to what [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► happens with him and I I like a [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► beginning a middle and the end and gosh [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► darn it [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► and there was no no real end I don't [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► want open-endedness at the ends of my my [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► series when that happens so I was a [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► little bit sad said with that so in my [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► headcanon that last episode never [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► happened to know worked out a very very [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► different way in my mind and the other [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► show that I watched i'm not actually [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► even sure that I am completely caught up [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► on it but watched most of season 2 of [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► stitches which is a show on freeform [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► which I gather is what ABC family turned [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► into yes and it's it is about what you [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► would expect from a science-fiction show [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► on ABC Family now free form it has it [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► has the budget that you would expect for [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► a show like that they are clearly not [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► hiring like the most first-rate writers [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► in the world they're they're people who [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► i think you know some of them may have a [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► future but they need to work on making [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► their characters believable and in many [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► cases likable even for the main [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► characters but even so it has charmed me [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► enough to keep watching it is a [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► ridiculous premise where the the main [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► character who is a skinny blonde white [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► girl has to get in to this like tight [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► black leather looking cat suit thing and [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► it does herself in a pool of water [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► in order to dip into people's dead [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► people's memories to solve crimes but of [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► course it's not just to solve crimes [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► there's this mysterious backstory with a [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► government agency that's all shadow and [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► there's stuff going on with her father [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► who's alive or maybe not [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► and people keep dying and it's it is it [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► is completely ridiculous i'm not gonna [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► strongly recommend that people go and [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► check it out but if you're looking for [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► something that's just kind of like mine [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► candy and easy to watch and if you [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► really want to see a show sort of pick [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► itself up off the ground and improve a [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► yeah start at the first season and then [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► catching the second think it's so much [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► yeah so stitchers it's it's ridiculous [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► but it's ridiculous in in a fun way for [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► me anyway she has to put on the leather [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► catsuit to solve crimes [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► so you know they they upgraded their [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► first season 2 it was it for her [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► nice nice yeah the freeform kicked into [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► the zipper budget tonight oxys and of [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► course she keeps it like way too low and [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► like i'll come on show your ridiculous [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► she does thats to get the memories in [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► let's go sure that I'm sure that's a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► shimmery through your skin [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► allene what what other shows you want to [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► mention before we move along and ok so [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► the last season of Downton Abbey yeah [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► I've been watching the 100 it's a show [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► that I like and hate at the same time [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► and but what I really like about it is [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► that a for the most part the female [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► characters the women in the show have [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► agency and are calling the shots which [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► is unusual for kind of a dystopian [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► sci-fi type show and I don't know I know [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► John's been watching it too i don't know [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► if he has things to say hi I think it's [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► a great interesting show because a [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► setting aside the end-of-the-world stuff [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► that I always loved it's kind of why I [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► don't know if I believe you would [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► categorize that way but I think about [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► the dealership even though the actors [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► all look like they're in their twenties [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► they're supposed to be like under-18 [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► that's why they were in the the jail or [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► whatever in the beginning of you know [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► they're all supposed to be teenagers and [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► the show loves to sideline the adults [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► like in theory like that the premises [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► you know they separate the teams from [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► the adults and it's like okay what teams [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► are on [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► it's like lord of the flies but then the [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► you-know-what all spoiler alert i think [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► it then the teens and adults are [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► together in the later part of the show [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► but the teens are still kind of in [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► charge so it's like totally yaa where [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► you imagine the grown-ups is there not a [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► bunch of doofuses like their their [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► characters and they're smart and they're [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► competent everything to but to a degree [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► that is a little bit unrealistic unless [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► you consider the whole thing to be yaa [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► the kids are running the show and then [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► the other aspects likely inside is the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► the women in the show it's it's [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► basically just parody or maybe just [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► barely parody but it comes off in the in [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► the environment that this is being [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► released into as startling in how you [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► know how can the main characters of a [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► show be women is not impossible like [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► shouldn't the main character every [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► single show be men and this show for all [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► its you know sort of silly you know why [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► a high school atmosphere in a grim [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► situation shows that you can actually [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► have one show on television where women [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► of the main characters in the world was [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► an end and so I find that not all over [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► the world actually did end but that was [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► prior to the show be part of the beating [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► the show it's not post world ending a [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► yeah and there's also a positive [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► portrayal of LGBTQ relationships and [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► that too [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► I'm which is another thing I appreciate [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► about but also of course the infamous [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► killing of a of a character that led to [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► a a whole feeling of outrage in the same [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► community and I'll i think frank [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► discussion on the internet by the [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► creators and TV critics and I think a [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► lot of people learned a lot and I think [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► maybe a lot of writers in the TV [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► business maybe realized that there's a [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► cliché that they didn't realize was a [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► cliché because they weren't paying [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► attention to it so there's a lot of [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► conversation about probably not what the [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► producers the 100 wanted to talk about [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► which was how they wrote out a character [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► who was because the actor was going to [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► it be a regular on a different show but [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► that was definitely a big part of the [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► story of the hundred this year and [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► that's why diverse writing rooms matter [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► yep this edition of the uncomfortable is [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► brought to you by like splash that's [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► like splash one word it's your one-stop [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► app for all of your interest movies [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► restaurants songs books podcast apps and [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► more and they all lived together in one [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► beautiful app [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► you may feel like you've got too many [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► apps on your phone too much to deal with [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► if you like movies or restaurants or [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► books or songs you end up with a nap for [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► each one may be more than one end up [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► with what a couple dozen apps to explore [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► like supply solve this problem by [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► linking you to all your favorite apps [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► and services directly rather than having [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► to open the different apps and it gets [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► better with a few taps you can explore [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► collections of favorite movies songs [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► books apps created by your friends or [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► other users who share your interests and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► here's another feature that they offer [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► you if you forgot about a TV show [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► let's say like one of the ones that [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► we've just recommended here or maybe a [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► restaurant something like that happens [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► all the time you can bookmark movie [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► songs books apps TV shows pretty much [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► anything you fancy using the app it's [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► all organized into categories and [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► connected your favorite apps and [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► services [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► it's a great sort of like super [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► bookmarking feature so check it out like [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► splashes on the App Store you can click [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► the link in the show notes or go to bit [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► ly thats bitd ly / get like splash vit d [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► ly / GT li ke SPL a sh like splash one [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► after all your interests avoid app [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► clutter get like splash thanks to like [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► spice for sponsoring the incomparable [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► the other big one I want to mention as I [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► zombie-like i watch The Walking Dead and [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► you know things that everybody else [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► watches too but I love iZombie I learned [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► about the premise of the show and was [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► like this is totally not for me it's [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► like just it's just not for me and then [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► when it came to at Netflix and my friend [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► Steve Lucas was like no you really need [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► to watch the show and I did and I am [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► hooked [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► I like it it's you know zombies and who [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► remain a human unless they are starved [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► for too long and there becomes like this [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► the this whole like brain [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► I don't know Brandon rotten market uh [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► so it's it's I don't know it's it's [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► clever in quirky kind of the way that [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► brain Fuller's shows can be that's not [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► by going fuller and it's and I don't [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► know I just really really enjoyed I [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► think it's fun and it's also smart so I [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► appreciate that i'm so glad to hear that [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► it stays good i have only seen the first [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► season so far and I [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► just absolutely adored it so I just [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► haven't been able to find the next the [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► rest of it candidates are sometimes the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► second season is is also really quite [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► good and it windy i award this year for [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► shows which you can't really like [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► there's a lot of shows a kind of is [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► dressed as a procedural right because [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► it's kind of dresses like a procedural [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► cop drama [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► except there's a zombie helping them [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► solve crimes and that's all well and [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► good but as the show goes along and you [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► realize while they're laying down all [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► these different weird pieces and as you [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► realize the procedural stuff start [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► shifting to the back and the sort of [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► ongoing plot shifts to the front and i [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► found just get one my award for I have [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► no idea where this is going like there [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► are a lot of shows that are sort of [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► telegraphed I feel like it's like okay [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► yeah these people are going to these [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► people and they show no compunction [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► about being like all what is this like [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► what is crazy terrible things that we [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► can do this people let's throw these [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► people together and see what happens [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► you're like oh my god I can't believe [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► this is going on right now what is [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► happening and i think it's it's [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► fantastic a great great cast [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► I will say one of my favorite bits from [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► this season involves a character who [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► returns out is very very angry at george [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► RR martin for not finishing his master [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► and one of the best deliveries wife from [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► a character who you otherwise would not [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► expect that to come from and also I [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► think a great job with one of my [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► favorite characters in that show who is [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► a person that could have come off as [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► very two-dimensional is major who is the [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► main characters ex-fiance and he feel [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► like he could have just gotten relegated [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► to this kind of dull like oh he's the [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► love interest role but by the end of the [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► first season have to get some really [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► really interesting to like directions [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► with his character and that actor is [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► fantastic he's just delivery is so good [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► he's so charming and like mild-mannered [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► like everybody in that show is is great [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► you know obviously a rose mciver replace [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► the lead to she's fantastic and it's [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► just got a great cast Rob Thomas who do [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► who created is the same guy created [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► Veronica Mars and that really shows if [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► you watch batteries [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► but it's good i highly highly second [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► that and also rob thomas from matchbox [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► Tony meeting up here and i think another [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► season you made it so well it's really [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► so good so funny [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► yeah if you're not watching that when I [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► don't even know why you're here go do [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► you hang up and watch that's ok bye guys [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► yeah John anything you want to mention [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► the only ones i had on my list i think [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► is a the walking dead which i still [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► enjoy i know a lot of people are tired [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► of it I'm not tired of it [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► they still I'm still interested the [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► characters that I come to know and love [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► I'm still interested in what happens to [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► them and they're still be able to [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► introduce new characters that like was [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► leftovers that already do that in the [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► last podcast about TV [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► I think we want to talk about I finally [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► have gone through the first season I [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► haven't watched the second season yet [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► but i thought i thought that was a very [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► quietly brilliant show actually yeah the [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► second season i really liked I liked it [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► more than the first season and I [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► actually like the first season as well [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► so I feel like that show is I don't know [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► where we can go from here i don't think [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► i can imagine season 3 being better but [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► I'm really glad that I saw the first two [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► seasons of that I'm really glad it [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► wasn't cancelled and there's only one [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► more season [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► yeah yeah is there wasn't even a third [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► season the last season alright well i [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► guess they can do something spectacular [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► for the Big Finish or they can just blow [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► it will see and then the other one is [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► the Americans which i think is sort of [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► at the ragged edges of its premise at [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► this point I'm i don't know i get the [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► premises silly begin with a lot of [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► things that show are silly if you think [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► about them for 12 seconds but now [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► they're really running out of runway for [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► the show but it's been pretty good all [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the way through a lot i don't quite [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► understand why people rave about it as [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► much as they do I think it's good i [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► don't have any bad things to say about [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► it but I'm not bowled over like I was by [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you know like that the Marquis programs [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► people throw this up there like oh it's [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► as good as you know breaking bad or the [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► wire or The Sopranos and it's not on [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► that tier for me but it's still a really [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► good show and it's an interesting [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► premise and i like most of the actors [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► and and they've announced it's going to [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► be two more seasons and then it's done [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► yeah so it has a finite ending insight [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► actually like it only has one season of [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► plot left two more seasons [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► maybe I think they're shorter seasons [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► that I think it's like the breaking bad [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► trend that's i'm watching the first [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► season of that right now and it is great [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► i'm enjoying a lot so I'm just you know [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► time-shifted pillow from 2011 [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► ok Brian anything that you want to throw [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► out there we've talked a lot about the [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► expanse on the TV feet of the [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► incomparable but it learned it's lessons [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► from game of thrones before Game of [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► Thrones itself learned those same [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► lessons the season so good for that i'd [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► like to throw a documentary now which is [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► on ifc Bill Hader and Fred Armisen make [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► silly documentary parodies they're [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► really detailed they're really suddenly [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► funny there things from Grey Gardens to [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► the thin blue line to rock documentaries [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► i had a ton of fun going through that [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► this year that's all on netflix now it [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► is all the netflix yes don't make the [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► mistake I made and I think that there's [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► only six episodes when there's a second [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► part of the blue jean committee episode [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► I'd like to throw out a special mention [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► to jeopardy [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► I'm very excited to see buzzy cohen and [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► Hunter aperture uh face off in next [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► year's tournament champions these past [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► months in 17 and no it's clear it's [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► really Glenn Glenn wearing up to Ryan [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► asked i don't like to throw a bone to [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► whoever runs the joy of painting youtube [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► account on thanks for helping me sleep [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► that's technically team right sure great [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► dropped in a helicopter e 700 club girl [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► happy little school and playing with his [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► nuts like the guy who plays the test [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► pattern he's great thanks for being [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► there to a David what do you have [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► I will if this were drafted be in pretty [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► good shape i mean i've crossed a couple [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► of things off like documentary now and [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► the expanse and one that I know is on [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► your list but I've got Angie Tribeca [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► which on TBS [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► it's just Rock stupid but it plays rock [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► stupid really well if if you like [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► airplane if you like police squad and [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► especially if you like police squad more [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► than you like The Naked Gun this is the [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► show you've been waiting for it manages [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► to hit that that tone pretty perfectly [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► then let's see the second season of [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► Fargo which I thought was as good [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► as the first maybe and i really like the [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► first full frontal [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► also on TBS has become a weekly thing [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► for me along with last week tonight [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► veep which people were worried about [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► because Armando Iannucci was leaving the [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► show how can you do it without Armando [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► Iannucci but not only did they maintain [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► it they sort of went beyond they've [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► ended in a really interesting place [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► I don't want to spoil anything but it's [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► not where you think it's going which is [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► kinda cool [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► the Carmichael show the second season [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► that was very entertaining [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► it's a throwback to the the Norman Lear [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► style of issue-oriented comedy but i [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► really like that of life in pieces said [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► come on CBS that is a pleasant way to [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► pass the time it takes it kind of does [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► the modern family format of an extended [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► family but instead of having a you know [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► trying to fit everybody in to every [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► story they do short stories in each half [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► hour so it's it's almost like it's [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► designed to be put on youtube in little [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► viral bites which is kind of interesting [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► to see how they're constructing that and [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► sometimes they do tie them all together [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► nicely but documentary now I'll just [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► cross it off [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► Louie CK is Horace and Pete which is not [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► quite a comedy and it's not quite a [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► drama and it's not quite TV because it's [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► kinda like live theater with so it's [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► again a very much a throwback it is very [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► funny at times it is harrowing at times [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► so it's it's it's not a ride for the [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► easily disturbed but man it's good it [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► could have used a sharper hand and [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► heading down the script but you know [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► i'll give it a pass because you don't [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► see that on TV alot and then I'll finish [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► off with two shows on the Sundance [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► Channel of all things one that's a [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► co-production with australia and new [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► zealand called clever man which is a [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► science fictiony retelling of Aboriginal [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► ecology in the present day in a sort of [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► a superhero context it's really [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► fascinating the first episodes little [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► confusing stick with it there are only [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► six so far I don't know if you're going [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► to do more but it's it's really [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► different i really liked it and a show [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► called HAP and Leonard which is based on [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► a series of books by Joe are lansdale [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► set down in the deep south with a crime [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► if you miss justified this could scratch [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► that itch and when I guess the the last [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► thing that's been taking up my time in [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► the last few weeks the match game I hate [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► to admit it they got it right even even [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► with alec baldwin they got it right it [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► feels like the 1970s match game and and [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► it's on at 10pm for good reason it is it [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► is at least as smart as the original so [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► good for that which was on it 38 3pm so [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► exactly go figure after school with [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► watch it but yeah it it's the first [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► they've tried to revive it multiple [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► times it's the first one that catches [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► the tone and the ease and the width of [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► the original right Dan [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► what else do you have alright well I've [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► got a bit of a list you so I'll just run [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► through these are the USA show suits [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► which is about answer its six-season [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► they took a really sharp left turn and [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► finally sort of dropped the hammer on [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► the premise which was interesting [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► I'm curious to see how they deal with [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► that since it will change the format of [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► the show pretty largely we'll see if [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► they stick with it but I've enjoyed that [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► show quite a bit it's got a really good [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► cast [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► I've got a British trial British cop [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► trifecta third season i just watched [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► thirties of line of duty which is a [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► really intense sort of internal affairs [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► style british show there are three [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► seasons each of them sort of focuses on [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► slightly different cases of [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► investigating you know an incident and [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► then there's a larger theme running [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► through it about sort of corrupt cops it [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► is it is one of those magnetic [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► edge-of-your-seat style shows and the [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► only six episodes of season two so it's [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► pretty easy to sort of plays through [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► endeavour just finished third season of [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► at a young inspector morse really well [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► done period oxford drama in the sixties [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► just really a lot of fun and the there [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► those are longer episodes there's only [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► like four in a season but they're an [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► hour and a half so they're more like [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► watching little mini movies but they're [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► they're great if you like British [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► detective drama Ripper Street i finally [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► managed to you find the fourth season [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► which is really also good i've enjoyed [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► that show a lot going through Matthew [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► McFadden and Jerome Flynn from Game of [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► Thrones who plays Braun plays the [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► sergeant in this one which is a [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► victorian-era police procedural the [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► third season of that which we were last [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► year or two years ago was really good [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► and had sort of a really interesting [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► overarching plot and they sort of [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► continued the fallout from that in this [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► most recent season I shows that i [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► haven't seen all of the time i am [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► watching a silicon valley I've really [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► enjoyed what I've seen a third season I [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► just haven't had time to finish it yet [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► but the addition especially of Stephen [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► Chbosky in early on in the season was [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► great and that show is when it when it's [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► good man is it good if they have some [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► really sharp satire and when it's you [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► know Mike Judge it's really mike judge [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► and i just finished the first season [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► right now is to show I was watching her [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► before got on here was the first season [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► of hold and catch fire [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► I which I just finished which is a [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► really interesting show that maybe tries [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► to be mad Men a little too hard but some [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► of it is kind of fun to watch a show [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► where it's like oh wait this is all [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► computer history I know about all this [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► stuff and I do enjoy a pace even if he [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► is a little bit over the top on the show [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► I know Jason really likes you're the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► worst and he got me [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► yeah the second season of that show is [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► fan-tastic areas and probably I feel [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► like has one of the better depictions of [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► dealing with like depression of of [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► anything certainly that I've seen [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► and he's just yeah it's really good [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► that's a really good show and it is it [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► is seriously underrated and the just the [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► the leads ice personally my favorite is [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► uh oh now I'm gonna blank [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► what's the name of his room 808 girl [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► Edgar yes Edgar and and the the best [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► friend of the main character Lindsay yes [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► the supporting characters that show [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► yeah you know what can you say about [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► sure where the supporting characters are [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► as good as they really are two main [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► characters Catherine Donahue is [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► spectacularly good as Lindsay [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► spectacularly good [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► yes she's really good even enjoy these [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► stupid like the stupid other side [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► characters like the married couple and [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► it's just it's so well written and so [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► good i just i watched the heck out of [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► that it's a great show it's hilarious [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► this whole area is fine to show it's [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► really weird because I was a show they [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► got recommended by multiple angles [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► including you Jason and then my parents [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► liked it was like I don't really want to [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► thank you are my parents [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► no but and then the last couple things I [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► had Star Wars rebels and i'm just going [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► to plug it because I got you for a show [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► that's 11 season in this season of [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► supernatural was surprisingly good i was [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► really a getting the point of being like [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► and I don't know how much they can keep [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► doing this they get a really good season [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► this year and part of it was going back [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► to stuff that they sort of left up in [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► the air like like five or six years ago [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► yeah and then do you want to hug you now [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► I'm okay it was a good show [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► I have to say I i was surprised i I just [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► sort of been sleepwalking through a lot [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► of the recent seasons because I felt [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► like man I am in this deep but you know [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► what they do the full credit for them [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► finding a way to make it sort of fresh [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► and and still having reasons for me to [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► invest 11 seasons in and guess what gap [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► its wealth so I kept them still going [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► Stockholm Syndrome going I got no [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► problems I can handle your mockery what [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► mockery now we're being and I'm [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► confident in my I'm comfortable where I [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► am right now we've only been mocking [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► you're watching supernatural for like [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► five years [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► comments I mean if you made it through [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► the first season we can talk we can oh [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► yeah i know i resigned to it never being [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► something ever gets discussed on the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► well we discussed now so there's no I [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► monologue about it this is different [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► I just can't get again i can't get past [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► season 1i just have tried i can't get [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► past jared padalecki guys in one is [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► season one is rough and yeah after [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► seasons like two through five you do [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► watch those those are great i would stop [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► honestly there i would not if we're I [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► starting today I would not follow myself [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► all the way down this dark path but [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► season 5 has one of the best that like [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► arc basically through season five is one [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► of the best constructed i'll put that up [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► against almost anything it's just it's a [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► really solid development of these [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► characters and an overarching plot that [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► is basically coherent from like first [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► episode to the end of the fifth season [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► and he should have just left it there [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► but they kept going so well and I've and [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► 27 more seasons after that I hate they [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► did I mean a this is a show they hit 200 [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► episodes and did it as a basically as a [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► high school musical about itself now [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► which was crazy but really well done [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► i'll mention a couple to a master of [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► none [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► Aziz Ansari's comedy on netflix is [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► really graves on my list you should you [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► should watch it it's really great [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► and since Dan mentioned you're the worst [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► i will then just mentioned catastrophe [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► on amazon a very funny show about an [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► American man who meets a woman when he's [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► in London and they sleep together and [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► she gets pregnant and he decides he's [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► gonna stay and be a parent and it is [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► very funny and i'll throw out there [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► Mozart in the jungle to on amazon which [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► yeah is a very good show about a [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► classical music and the the simple [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► Symphony musicians in New York and has a [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► it and there's almost no way I can [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► describe it won't make it sound boring [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► it is very funny it is off-kilter it is [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► not snooty at all [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► there is like you learn in the first [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► episode which guy in the orchestra is [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► the one you go to [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► I drugs it's that kind of show and it's [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► got a fun performance by Malcolm [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► McDowell is the deposed former conductor [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► of the orchestra and a spectacularly [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► good form a performance by guile garcía [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► Bernal as the maestro of the orchestra [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► who is just I loved every minute he's [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► on-screen he's it's such a great is our [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► performances [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► he's very creative and does weird things [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► and everybody's like well it's the [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► maestro he just does what he does and [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► it's yeah it's a it's a legitimately [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► hilarious show so people should check [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► out 1 i've talked about a lot with Tim [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► Goodman over on the talk machine and it [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► really you know for people who love [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► slings and arrows which is one of my [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► favorite shows well this is the same [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► kind of the it sits behind the scenes of [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► creative people being created yeah and [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► this the struggle with how have they [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► exist in the world and still be creative [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► and you know it's it's it's not the same [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► sense of humor it's not it's not slings [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► and arrows to point out but if you like [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► the one you will probably like this too [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► thus ends the not a draft listing of [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► shows that you should probably watch if [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► you are looking for shows to watch [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► because we liked although shows and we [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► mentioned them [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► it's very positive of us were not [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► currently out shows that like we don't [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► like where it's just all the good stuff [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► i think we watches that we don't like [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► like about we usually got the day off [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► there's too many good shows that used to [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► be you'd watch mediocre shows because [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► you're we ran out of good shows and [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► there is you cannot run out of good [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► shows now [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► okay we're gonna fire up the spoiler [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► horn and talk about season 6 or game of [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► thrones now [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► alright season six game of thrones so [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► last season of Game of Thrones kind of a [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► downer kind of down lots of bad stuff [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► happened to his dark things were bad on [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► this show a downer little bit of a [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► bummer with all the terribleness that [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► happened in it but this season was [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► different for Game of Thrones I thought [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► I spent the entire season talking about [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► every single episode all but John [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► actually of those of us who who were [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► here and David doesn't count because he [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► didn't watch that were on TV episodes [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► about Game of Thrones with me or not [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► with me in the case believe you were on [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► with Brian right i was on the frame so [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► mean it all connects it all [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► interconnects John prefers to wait and [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► ponder season 6 of Game of Thrones like [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► every season and so I guess I should [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► start with John and and if people want [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► to hear what I had to say about Game of [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► Thrones season 6 hey there's 10 episodes [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► of or eight episodes of the TV podcast [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► where I talk about eight episodes of it [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► John what do you think of season 16 [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► minutes we'll start with you I don't [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► know if this season was your just frame [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► it was like oh it's not as big of a [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► downer is the previous season because [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► bad things do happen but I think every [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► time we talk about the show in the [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► beginning I knew nothing about nothing [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► about the book I did you know and I'm [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► think I'm very early i made jokes about [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► like boy winter is coming sure taking a [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► long time to get here that stop being a [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► joke like a season and a half ago [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► it's like seriously his winter coming [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► how slow do the White Walkers actually [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► walk are they just loitering outside the [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► wall but I think the reason this season [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► was so satisfying to everybody is [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► because all those story threads and all [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► that stuff [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► finally finally looks like we're [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► actually getting payoffs for things like [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► they actually allowed to Starks to meet [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► each other it was like it was like a [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► miracle it was like how can that is how [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► can that even happen how can look [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► they're hugging like it's just [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► miraculous and I really the season was [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► kind of more of the same chest people [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► peace moving and then one big episode of [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► the middle toe to punch you in the gut [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the door episode and then huge finish a [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► huge finish i think those last two [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► episodes combined [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► and are better than most of the movies [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► I've seen in the past several years both [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► in terms of how satisfying it was you [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► can imagine this is like the second or [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► third movie in a trilogy those two [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► episodes and all the other seasons [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► compress down just the good part step [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► couple of just fantastic finish and so [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► like that's a good strategy but your TV [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► season by the way we forget about all [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► the little small chest piece moving and [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► tiny little scenes here and there in the [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► early part of the season if it all comes [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► together in the end and things happen [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► things move and even though those poor [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► white walkers are still going even [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► though ships are still selling across to [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► see enough happened that we all just [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► settle down I felt like after the season [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► said Jason Monty and I didn't really [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► have much nice to say about that the [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► ultimate episode where they're fighting [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► the Bolton's but I I said nice things [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► you said and I think it was on the nice [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► thing but I didn't even John you make a [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► great point I didn't even think about [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► comparing it to a movie that sounds [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► really dumb but honestly when I will go [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► to game of thrones I want the plot i [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► want things to happen [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► not much happened in that episode [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► plot-wise except for like the incredible [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► ending and honest I didn't even think [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► about comparing it to something like the [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► two towers a return of the king where so [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► much of those movies are fighting that [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► you just kind of get plot thrown in [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► sprinkled throughout and it made a lot [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► more sense [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► comparing it to a movie in terms of the [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► scale that we get in the budget that [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► they're allowing to say thank you for [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► that they held that the battle back like [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► they have like a lot of times it's [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► people talking and people thinking about [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► things or whatever but like that's the [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► seasons that tend to be unsatisfying is [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► a lot of those people having [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► conversations and different sort of [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► political maneuvering but it doesn't [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► culminating anything or maybe culminates [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► into a single murder which blends into [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► the background on Game of Thrones all [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► the other incidental murders they go on [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► this all these moving around moving [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► pieces culminates in a final clash of [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the pieces that had been aligned and [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► you're right like that the battle the [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► bastards that the reason I think that [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► worked for me so well is a this is a big [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► thing that's been coming for a long time [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► we need to actually have a result [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► instead of just having people just do [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► something go off in different directions [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► again and be i thought it was an [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► amazingly well done battle scene i [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► thought it was as good as any sort of [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► mud and blood battle scene in medieval [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► you know fantasy settings that I've seen [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► a movie in gear [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► years and this is a TV show just [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► phenomenally well done because you care [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► about the characters that you can tell [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► what's going on the whole time as it [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► interesting shots that you didn't expect [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► it's not just a bunch of cliches and yes [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► there's enough silliness with the person [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► who doesn't know it is exactly he runs [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► and some vino different things that [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► don't make a lot of sense in terms of [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► how confident someone could be that [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► their plan would go off as expected but [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► all that you know just like and I needed [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► that I after season diseases i needed to [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► see a big gigantic battle between forces [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► that have been going together for a long [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► time to be resolved decisively in a [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► single episode there was a winner there [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► was a loser the big banner comes down on [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► the side of the building [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► yes you know i am i am the queen of of [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► not meeting a big battle scene I will [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► never say that that's something i need [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► and i always get bored I am the first [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► person to say im bored with battle [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► whether it's a gunfight or a sword fight [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► doesn't matter however i actually was [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► pretty darn ok with that battle in with [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► the battle of the bastards it i do think [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► that it went on too long for my taste [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► but not by nearly as much as I expected [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► and i quite liked a good chunk of it [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► because it it didn't do that thing that [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► so many shows of this type does and Game [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► of Thrones has done in the past is like [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► glorify battle make it look like you [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► know this is such an epic sing and look [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► at these sweaty men swinging their [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► swords around and slow motion and isn't [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► it a beautiful wonderful thing all this [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► testosterone know it made it look [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► terrible and terrifying all of these [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► like super fast quick cuts from from [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► place to place you can't actually tell [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► what's going on [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► that's exactly what it would be like in [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► the middle of a battle you wouldn't be [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► able to tell what's going on I felt like [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► it that seen more than any other battles [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► on the show kind of it gave me a feeling [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► for what it would be like to be in this [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► situation and to be you know the [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► trampled under almost right several [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► hundred people trying to get away i have [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► to say i had the interesting experience [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► of watching this with my girlfriend who [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► had during we're watching the season [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► together and then she moved to india but [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► halfway through the season and so it [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► turns out in India they actually show it [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► live on TV sponsored by like amazon [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► india like not even on premium cable [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► just like I'm like [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► broadcast except india being a slightly [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► more conservative country they cut a [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► bunches of apples as showing it like a [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► lot of the super gory stuff so we're [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► watching it and I was just you're [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► watching this episode going who i like [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► it and she's like what I don't even know [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► what you're seeing right now like I I [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► surprised that episode was not just five [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► minutes long at that point because he [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► felt like it was all pretty gory but I i [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► think from a larger perspective what I [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► found really good about the season which [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► I think we obviously have to acknowledge [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► is the fact that we're basically you [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► know we're beyond the the pale when it [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► comes to these books because we're off [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► the map right like you know those of us [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► who have read the books to a certain [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► extent the plot was hamstrung by needing [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► to follow where the books were you know [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► in so far as they could and so I think [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► this is [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► this is [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► what a really good example for this to [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► my mind was was the last season with the [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► hard home episode [TS]