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98: Obscure References and Sadness

 

00:00:00   I i should tell you the title of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   episode is going to be obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1">TS</a>]

00:00:02   references and sadness because allah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2">TS</a>]

00:00:06   says that's that's your stock and trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   apparently but it's absolutely true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/9">TS</a>]

00:00:13   absolutely good the incomparable Todd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/13">TS</a>]

00:00:20   test number 98 july 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/20">TS</a>]

00:00:25   hi there I'm Lex Friedman i'm joined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   three very very cool people and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   in no particular order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   John siracusa likes Scott McNulty hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/31">TS</a>]

00:00:36   and Greg moss either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/36">TS</a>]

00:00:40   hello and tonight we are all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   together about Jonathan Coulton the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47   the myth the internet legend who I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   in most of the press I seabed jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   coulton or joko to his fans these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   they sort of describe him as a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56   rocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   I don't know if you guys would accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58   that label or not but I'm seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   applied to him more and more but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   going to talk about his music and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   over and some of our favorite Colton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   songs and why we like him so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   so why don't we just to sort of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/67">TS</a>]

00:01:11   things started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   kick off by discussing how you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   became aware of Jonathan cold what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   introduction to him was and I pic Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   McNulty to go first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   ah alright i have prepared this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   i knew that i had blogged about when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   first heard about Jonathan Coulton so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   googled myself and jonathan coulton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   read my blog post so i could remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/93">TS</a>]

00:01:37   what how is this show is so he did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   cover of a baby got back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/99">TS</a>]

00:01:43   as we all may remember and so someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/103">TS</a>]

00:01:47   linked that on their blog and a so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   was what in 2006 i guess so that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/110">TS</a>]

00:01:54   he first came across my radar and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/114">TS</a>]

00:01:58   he started doing a bunch of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   that got more attention and he did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   thing weak stuff and then he did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   portal song and got very popular and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   so that's my story and I'm sticking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11   excellent job not surprisingly my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/131">TS</a>]

00:02:15   encounter with him was also the baby got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   back song and I don't even remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   where I got it from was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/138">TS</a>]

00:02:19   things you get floating around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   internet and I'd I didn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   connection of an artist with it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   you know when you get songs on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26   internet and I go hey listen to this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27   song let's do you like an yeah it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   I and then you forget about it all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   but just one for whatever reason like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/151">TS</a>]

00:02:36   did basically forget about it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   were like oh there's this guy doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   thing where he's going to record a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40   every week and his name is not say Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   although you might get them confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   initially a micro yeah i think i saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   guys didn't even notice guys doing music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   and it's like a new one every weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   starts up i want to his website and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   said hey that's the guy who did the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   got back think so he went from a one-hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/172">TS</a>]

00:02:55   internet wonder immediately to a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   whose name I should remember and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00   for and I watched thing week with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   varying levels of interest because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   still is still at that point I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   alright so we did this cute cover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   he's trying to these songs with some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   them are kind of crazy but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   you know I might come together but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   probably he's doomed to failure but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   we all know he did not fail and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   continued to grow in stature and I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   following of him became more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   rabbit overtime culminating in today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   great was baby got back your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   introduction as well I it might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   been but the only the first conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   memory I have Jonathan Coulton is code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   monkey i bet there was a period where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   people sensitive singer-songwriters were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   recording various rap songs i have and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/216">TS</a>]

00:03:40   don't remember her name but she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41   sensitive singer-songwriter who recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   straight outta compton and I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   that and so I remember looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   others and finding a couple and I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   baby got back was among those but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   first time I remember the name jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   coulton was codemonkey late comer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   understood you know I for me was not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/237">TS</a>]

00:04:02   wasn't code monkey and it wasn't baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   got back but it was during I i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07   friend a longtime friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   collaborator who i would write songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   with Goofy songs with all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   it was the week but it is baby got back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   was part of thing a week 1 which I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   we could talk a little bit about more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   than a couple minutes but the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   before baby got back was released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   release the song called shop vac and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   was my friend Seth sent me links to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   at this guy he's trying to do a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   every week for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30   why didn't we think of that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   certainly we don't have the talent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   musicianship or even you know any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   the brilliant sensibilities that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   Colton has but so I heard that song shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   back and I had to go back and listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   the first couple of songs that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   done and then I was listening every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   and you know they're at at one point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   first I was just going to his blog where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   he was posting these songs as you record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   them each week and then I would at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   point he put made them available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   purchase on his website and when he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   them available for purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59   he had go to the website and such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00   that was very easy to get all the songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   without paying for them which I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   then felt terribly about and then I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   and paypal him and his amnesty program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10   to make up for my wrongdoing and i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14   feel bad about it which is why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   admitting to it publicly now you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   disappointment to us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   yeah well so I i asked everybody to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   prepared with their three favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   jonathan coulton songs with it was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   me that was a very difficult decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   was I think probably even harder than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   sophie's choice but she's never there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/332">TS</a>]

00:05:36   was some there was some debate before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   the show about whether this was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   be draft style meeting each long curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   picked will be picked once or not and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   have made the executive decision that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   multiple people can pick the same songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   because I want them to be true to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   three favorites and because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   disapproves of that approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   I'll let Jonathan siracusa go first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   Jonathan they tell us your first of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   three favorite songs that need not be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   any particular order a call me Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   because it's jonathan coulton reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   because you think my name is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   Jonathan I guess was because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/365">TS</a>]

00:06:09   thinking of cold and I was looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   Jonathan cold notes inside all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   well you know job just pretend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   Google's I i we had this is an ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   list or unordered this is unordered list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   this is ul alright i guess i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   start with probably indeed takes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   throne for all time favorite but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   wasn't my original favorite so it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   of like my current favorite but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   it will be tough to knock off of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30   person that it's not a particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   unique or interesting favorite and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   other people have picked it but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35   you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   it is the future soon which is a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   that's about as straightforward as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/398">TS</a>]

00:06:43   gentleman called the song can be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   about a disaffected nerdy youth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   robots and cyborgs and all those sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   of things you would imagine a parody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   jonathan coulton song will be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/415">TS</a>]

00:07:05   last guy no llores it said I love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/425">TS</a>]

00:07:11   signed anonymous friend turns out modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/431">TS</a>]

00:07:16   that thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   now the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   game on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   double skate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/445">TS</a>]

00:07:29   she died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/449">TS</a>]

00:07:33   but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37   what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/460">TS</a>]

00:07:46   the way things that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/466">TS</a>]

00:07:53   just and the reason i like it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   while to grow on me because a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   songs first listening to him i tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   listen to music listening for the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   first and lyrics second and so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   really listen to what the lyrics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   about my god just kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   mid-tempo rocky kind of song whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   and then as I listened to it a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   more times I actually listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12   lyrics with sound strange talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   Jonathan Coulton song I listen to lyrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   but it's just the way things tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   grow on me and the thing I love so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   about the story is that it starts out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   a kind of clichéd like oh I'm a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   and you know I have a crush on a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   but she doesn't like me and I'm sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   right you know that that's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   anywhere right but it quickly turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   a story about all right well that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/512">TS</a>]

00:08:36   life now but things will get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   later because i will use my big nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   brain to do these awesome things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   maybe i'll work on my own you know race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   of a robot android army that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   destroy the world and then i'll go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   talk to her and you know we'll finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   get together potential realize I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   guy who destroyed the entire rent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   it's it it's an elaborate fantasy spun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   out by this nerdy guy and it doesn't end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   and hey i will have this elaborate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   fantasy and in the end of my fantasy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   will get the girl and I'll show them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   it ends in a self-destructive conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   where despite his best efforts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   because of his best efforts he ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   you know destroying the things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   loves totally consumed by bitterness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   enslaving this girl that he's after so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   it's I loved it so much because it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   nicely captures the feeling of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   you're you know a nerdy kid that even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   your fantasy scenarios things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/567">TS</a>]

00:09:28   horribly for you and it's all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   it's all because of your own instincts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   and you're like you know like this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   sentiment underlying it all that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   know all these awkward things about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   we'll go in the future and I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40   better but this the realization that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   know wherever you go there you are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/582">TS</a>]

00:09:43   I'm gonna have to become okay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   myself otherwise things are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   turn out nicely in the end and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/586">TS</a>]

00:09:50   kind of bittersweet pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   optimistic you know cliche but counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   cliche thing is like the perfect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   perfect formula for that Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   Coulton in my mind that's that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01   favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   it's you know and for me one thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   like about that one specifically is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   the the phrasing of the the title and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   thus the course you know that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   feel like the that term that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   be the future soon as a a clever way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   phrasing that conceit yeah i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   the title is a little he's very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20   with the word play like his songs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   like the most straightforward like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   they're not too clever but they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   a little bit off and he's just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   tight and very concise with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   music and the lyrics it's his is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   songwriter I'm really surprised that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   listen to the music before you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   the words just in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   well like you know just knowing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   auditioning songs like especially when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   was doing things a week it's like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   see what he's got this week and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   listen to it's like some of them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46   the music production quality is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   great and and some of the things a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   things and you never know which one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   going to come out and like he has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   good pop sensibilities with hooks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   sometimes the one with the best hooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   have the least interesting lyrics you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   know and and it was one every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   week and i was paying you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   tangential attention so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   how i came to this and I circle back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   around eventually and and and the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   soon you know when to the top of verses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   my second choice which I listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10   lyrics right off for some reason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   that was my old favorite so we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   that next you know I just want to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   have you ever heard John the i fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   dragons cover of the future soon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   probably have at this point i've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   many covers of many developing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   songs but I don't recognize the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   it's aight i didn't know the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   before that cover but it sort of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   know that if the writers like a chip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   notice it's got a video game sound ya to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   it it's very well done anyway i Fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   Dragons the cover the future student if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   the future soon is like a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   apocalypse version of an it gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   video right but doesn't get better right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   it gets worse it gets better the says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   that he does get to destroy the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   and no one else did but he still doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   get what he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   there's nowhere you can hide yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   yeah that that is going to be a theme i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   think of this discussion but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   always get what you want but if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   sometimes you just might find that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   fail anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/722">TS</a>]

00:12:03   yeah I think that's right in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/723">TS</a>]

00:12:07   introduction colon remains my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   which is code monkey going to get up.get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   copy good monkey go to job code monkey a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/731">TS</a>]

00:12:17   boring meeting boring manager Rob very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/737">TS</a>]

00:12:24   diligent but its output this elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/744">TS</a>]

00:12:30   good monkey fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/750">TS</a>]

00:13:01   because I it's a song that of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/781">TS</a>]

00:13:05   about a nerdy guy who can't get the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   which has a particular relevance to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/787">TS</a>]

00:13:11   life prior to my marriage but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   also it was the first song that my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/794">TS</a>]

00:13:18   really took to that wasn't the kids song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   you know they listened to a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   of crap that was aimed at them that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   marketed at them you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   designed for five-year-olds and code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   monkey was the first song that we they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   didn't I listen to that they asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   have played and like my eldest son he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   would take a sheet of eight and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   by 11 paper and he latched onto the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/819">TS</a>]

00:13:43   big fuzzy secret heart and he drew a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   heart the size of the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   Andrew very fine hairs around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   outside of it and put a classified stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   over it and hang it on the fridge and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   because i have very literal-minded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   children so it'sit's I associate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/836">TS</a>]

00:13:59   song not only with really enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   and it having relevance to me but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   that Mike kids came into an age when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/842">TS</a>]

00:14:06   they started growing up when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   stopped being kids and they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   looking at a wider world and finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   things that that I could enjoy that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   could also enjoy the same time it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   very transitional phase and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   always stick with me because of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   know what I think of that song I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/860">TS</a>]

00:14:21   of him sitting was I don't even remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   that was a thing of weeks on but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25   songs i think of him sitting there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   saying okay I gotta write a song so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   got our song always need a reason so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   come meet me an idea i come to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   of you know okay you ready i can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   the girl kinda to that already but hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   the idea that makes them go you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   I got it is that ok I'm going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   lyrics like in like monkey speak right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   now so it's so it's you know it's double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   like I could just do this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   straight-ahead song but i'm also going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   to do them you know codemonkey get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   get coffee like and caveman speak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   that's it that once you have the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   then it's off to the races and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   is a great idea and it adds like a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   extra you know level of difficulty to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   undo the song but the challenge myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   since I've done these nerdy songs i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   gonna do it as a monkey and it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   10 * better i also think it works on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   levels both as monkey speak and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   pseudo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   yep that works well and it was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08   we could stay a week 3 what I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   think about with code monkey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   you know Jonathan Colton's job before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   decided I'm gonna quit and start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   this thing a weakling photo year it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   a coder and he's you know he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   this song is not exactly he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   the boss part is how to fire a graphical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   but the the pining after the specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   woman was not but I mean I was once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   code monkey and I just I hated I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   there's things about programming that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   like but doing programming where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   specifically doing one of the persons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   building and you can flex any creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   muscle i understand that monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   mentality and not wanting to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40   I don't know that that's always what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/940">TS</a>]

00:15:41   think about him working in that job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   not loving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/943">TS</a>]

00:15:43   there's also the my children really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/943">TS</a>]

00:15:47   adoring the line goddamn login page they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   took particular delight in that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   singing the song dad that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/952">TS</a>]

00:15:57   that he's able to communicate like I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01   know I don't know if I knew he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   programmer at the time I listen to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   but I said he is using the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   vocabulary modified by the monkey speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   / pseudocode to express a sin to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   with the correct language like I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   counterexample this would be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   like a weird al's all about the Pentiums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   which you can tell we're down two tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   of good research to get his lyrics to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   technically accurate but you could also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   tell that weird al is not a programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   right i mean whereas in this one he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   there are very few technical words in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   all but the monkey speak yet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   right god damn log in page himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   that's how managers would talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   things we need to login page on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   like if you were working on the web as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   programmer during that time that lingo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   coming from bosses talk to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   spitting it back at them you know rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   true and I think I feel like even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   the tab mountain dew work and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   that they wouldn't necessarily be it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:53   don't know that that weird i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   gone to tab mountain dew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   I mean I really like we don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   that's but that's that's that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   insider knowledge not those are Insider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   E sodas but just to know that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   level of caffeine is what's important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   certain app code monkeys i think is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   all right Scott hit us with your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   okay well I i am a person who does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15   enjoy Christmas generally but i do enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   Christmas songs and i also enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:21   Christmas socks that are mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   inappropriate for Christmas and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   Jonathan has a number of these songs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   him and my favorite is a chiron beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   prime this here is there a crazy party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   and you Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   it's in trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:38   here the council had a Spanish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:42   right that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:53   red time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   merry Christmas from chyron beta pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:59   where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   which tells the story of a family who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   has been captured or sent to a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:09   where they are mining things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   know being punished and they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   can only tell it's Christmas because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   they have scrawled in their cell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   number of days it has been since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   were captured and so they they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   singing they sing the song to uh as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   christmas greeting to their friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   then they try to slip in a plea for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   but then Jon Coulton cleverly put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   robot voice that says message redacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   so you don't hear that part of the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   and so it just lights me to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   song during christmas so that i can ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   everyone else's Christmas when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   the guy who kept voting for grandma got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   run over by a reindeer on dr. Demento [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   where yeah that was but yes you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:53   had chiron beta prime on my backup list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   you know since I couldn't live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   myself 23 at first but I i will say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   I really really like the song i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   have complaints I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   here are my complaints and i have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   two number one first I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   the first verses i think are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10   brilliantly know the lyrics are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   brilliantly done you know that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   that the the hardships their enduring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   having undermine their holiday cheer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   you know did I say overlords I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   protectors i really like when singers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   correct themselves during a song you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   know because it's as if the song is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   happening right then live you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   like that but my two problems are one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   with that message rejected line which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   a great joke the whole thing is a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:36   and its it all Rhymes and I cannot come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:40   up with a realistic line that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:41   gone there that would have run before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   they rejected the message and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   like that i want to know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   going to say and then to is just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   lines later he makes the Soylent Green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   joke and i think that the Soylent Green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   joke is below beneath him and beneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   the song i like good soil green joke so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:58   i will allow it I only can criticize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:05   song because of how much i love I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   this doesn't to track for my overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08   enjoyment of the song but because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   such you know fandom for it I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   it's important for me to voice these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   can separate it you've done a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   for the world likes don't worry anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   else want to weigh in on chiron beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   prime this is I think the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   we've mentioned it's not from being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   week directly right well maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:29   never my number on it from think a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   to my nokia cool i know nothing i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:35   curious to see if anybody pics anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   from artificial heart i have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   selections from artificial heart people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   into the onion on your main list on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   mind on my main list i have my have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   from artificial heart as well so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   first pick is not from artificial heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   and it is one of the few songs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   that I could say that I love that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   colon in the title and that is read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:58   brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59   hey Tom it's bob from the office down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   good to see you buddy have you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:10   things have been ok for me except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:14   i'm a zombie now really wish you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:19   the guys big for all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:25   going to say I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   y-you my desert submit to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:33   here's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:44   where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   I mean no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   we haven't discussed yet you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   you would classify jonathan coulton you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   know I think that too many people he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   you know a human musician a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   musician and I think you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59   people he might even they might even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00   apply the novelty label to him I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:05   think any of those really apply I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   he's a musician who happens to also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   very funny and to inject many of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   songs with humor but i enjoy some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   seriousness as much as i enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   humerus ones rear brains is I is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:16   much a straight comedy song which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   think is an exception for him overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   but i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   read your brains is told in the form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   sort of that a memo or a series of memos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   from one co-worker to another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   clearly these workers who didn't get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   along well before the zombie apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34   and now that one of them is hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   inside a ball and the other is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   zombie and the dictator of the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   expressing his his desire to get inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:45   and eat his former colleagues brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   his inability to do so yet but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   i think this song is it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   it like we mentioned earlier you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   John you said that you always like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   listen to the music first and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   go to lyrics I'm very much the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   with all the music i listen to for me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   I don't like the lyrics than the song is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   of no interest to me I think that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   brains uniquely has a very I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:09   the best work for compelling is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10   but very cleverly implemented chord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   structure and I think the lyrics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   also just really i think they concede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   there can only be as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   concerned they're going to be one song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   told from the perspective of a still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   very coherent zombie and jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   coulton wrote it and owns it and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   I think it's excellent that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   brilliant thing about the song is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   like like his other songs that he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   got an idea like a letter from a zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   right but that the entire song is a a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   parodied statement against office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   culture for is in a way that's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   distant from actual office culture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   know like but with the zombies you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   your colleagues who uses stupid business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   speak are like one centimeter we removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   from being zombies so to see them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   zombies it's like not that much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   stretch and the things they say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   things they say are you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   exception of the part about eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   brains every other word in this song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   could believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:01   they come out of their mouths in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   course of a normal office day because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   they're just crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   sociopaths that you have to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   and then they just finally admit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   know I'm not a monster Tom well okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   technically I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   that's one of his strengths is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14   takes solid I mean all the songs we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   mentioned so far have been really high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   concept there's something in the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   that tells you what the song is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   be about but the song itself isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   that joke repeated over and over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23   over there again more layers to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   that's it that's definitely right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28   the title is not the only joke and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   not the only meaning promise isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   only joke lyrics like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   everything builds on itself and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   his songs kind of like Bruce Springsteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   most of his songs like go somewhere you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   know like a story and you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   interesting because you know i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   that i i'm i'm a big fan of Al Yankovic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   when you talk about that song like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   all about the Pentiums he has a tendency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   to do what he even classifies as a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   song you know here's my funny concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   and i'm going to give funny example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   after fun example and I think that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   you nailed it that is not the approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   that that's not the approach to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   Colton takes he definitely tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   build and to not just build on jokes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   it's a funny song but you know to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   somewhere and just that the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   office speak that he puts in that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:11   and that fits so naturally coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   the zombies mouth is just so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   night table table this for now I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   we get the common ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   you know you've heard these in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   anybody who's ever worked in corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   America has or these terms and I i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24   the part where they are trying to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   about of the lock himself in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   writing is like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   no one's going to eat your eyes to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   we know that this want to bring a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   for like they're supposed to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   using their smooth business speak but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   they just they just matter-of-factly say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   why don't you will come to a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   are compromised will be you open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   door welcome and then we'll eat your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   brains and I didn't realize their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   know this that there the zombies is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   taking over there just coming right out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:48   and saying what they wanted trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   get some really hot i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   many of you that I know that John has I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   don't have any of you seen Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   Coulton live but when he performs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   rearrange live the first thing before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   the song starts as hell and he'll ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   the audience to practicing the course he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   wants the audience to perform the zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   portion of the chorus and generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   speaking the audience will sing it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   and then he'll correct them afterward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   say no no remember you are the undead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   Tommy's you must sing it much worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15   that and that he encourages the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   to sing it much more horribly instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   always enjoyed that experience this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   the one public forum in which my singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   abilities are valued and appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25   finally finally I have a reason a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   command to sing very badly and yes I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   yes I've seen my many times all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   times I am yelling at the top of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   lungs and horrible totally off-key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   zombie saying it was like god that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   is so good at this army thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   yeah give us a sample no thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:44   what happened we're not Jonathan Coulton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   and I am NOT a giant audience right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   yes you should go to show so you two can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   participate in this ritual i have i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   been lucky enough to go so let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55   around to John you got to start round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:58   one so you get to start round two as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   well so this was my original favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   jonathan coulton song and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   like you know the beginners fisher price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   my first jonathan coulton song because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   if you don't know who he is and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   not sure you write this type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   you get the song and it will introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   you in a gentle way to what he's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   about its i crush everything like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   swim getting dizzy in your way getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:22   close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   have to touch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   bringing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:32   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:36   more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:41   for baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:49   because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   crush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   so the premise of the song is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:58   apparent on first listening this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   of a nice thing and you know i crush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   everything is kind of like Oh what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   me everything I touch gets destroyed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   whatever and that's what you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   first 12 times you listen to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   you just like our least if you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   me you're like la-di-da fine whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   but then if you actually listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   lyrics that it's like they don't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   be making any sense of what the heck are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   they talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   I very little if you pay just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   smallest bit of attention what this song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   is about will reveal itself to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   deep thought required no deep cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   knowledge of anything it's about a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   squid and what he does is he can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   himself but pole shifts down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   know to destroy them because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   giant squids do is stereotypically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   he feels bad about it and every lyric in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   the song is like I'm going to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   this is this look seems like a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   song listen to for a second it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   giant squid and it's not obscurely about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   giant squid it's straightforwardly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   giant squid like you know doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   hey I'm a giant squid but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   everything but I and I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   sentiment of you know sort of a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   kind of a self tonight and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   believe we have to pick three songs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   can pick up a hundred songs but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   kind of like it yeah it was me kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   song like in a big bad world one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   I very simple and straightforward but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   the fact that it's about a giant squid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   just tickles me and turns the song on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   it's a year and that was that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   favorite before the future soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   surpassed it i've said this once before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19   and been wrong but I can now say with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   conviction this is the first song we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   selected that is not a thing of weeks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26   this was from his his album where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   tradition meets tomorrow it'll just flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   that wasn't the future soon also from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   yeah attractions near our house the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   future soon and I crush everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   well I never said I was good at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   right you guys still remember what songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:45   come from what albums i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   I've been looking on the wikipedia page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   i actually bought physical kind of kelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   cds and they came and they are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   they're just jumbled into a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   shuffle and I told her I never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   opened because i had the songs before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   that that's the thing about like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:02   crush everything you do it anytime i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   introduced to a new subculture new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   artist i assume that the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   sure about giant squids and then usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   I'm disappointed but it's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:13   songs that I've heard people say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   about Jonathan Coulton is you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   how experienced the listener is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   whether they laugh or whether they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   sad because the songs i'll start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   with jokes i mean there are definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   jokes here but as you get deeper into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   the sentiment of the song there's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   profound sadness at the core of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32   them yet or like or ironic poking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   your own sadness again big bad world one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   you know where it's it's it's that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   should get this when we get to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   general comments about John Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   saver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:42   okay well if we're gonna have we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   gonna get to those that i will move us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   along at a slightly more rapid clip Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   your second song my my second is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   to be Skullcrusher mountain and i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   its high concept and I know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   lot of jokes in there but i just-i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   adore the pony verse this have money at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:03   monkey monster to please you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:10   like it what's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   all screaming you like my be like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:20   so much any I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   he's isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:34   and it just specifically one line or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   says what's with all the screaming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   that reaction is so perfect and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   mean again it's following the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   template as future soon and code monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   is your sad little man wants the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   but the the setting of the song and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   of course when you're in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   somebody and they don't reciprocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   you're going to build them a half pony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   half monkey monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   I mean that just makes sense and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   when wench the she has the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   reaction the deed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   what's with all the screaming I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   understand why you would react that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   I always and maybe this is my own lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   of imagination but I always listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   school crusher mountain is being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   future realized by the title character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   in the future for the best for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   future soon hopefully this this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   he has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   I think it's more gothic less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   science-fictiony that's fair i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   thinking i was like the James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   villain in the volcano lair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   yeah I don't think yes this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   song we're like the song doesn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   out and say hey I'm dr. evil i'm in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   volcano lair but just straightforwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   this is even less obscured then i crush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   everything we're remember if you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   to anything lyrics as alright well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   is obviously some kind of super villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   and here's what the supervillain wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   and he behaves in the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   supervillain does who is acclimated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54   being a supervillain surrounded by yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   men who and doesn't understand the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   you operate in polite society of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   notice that genuinely surprised and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:02   turns the turns of phrase or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   like maybe I used too many monkeys like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   it's just an ingredient uses in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   normal it isn't it enough that Hebrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   and a pony making a gift that's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   thought that counts as far as that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   will he will mix in sentiments from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   adult relationships again from his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   I've imagined this time we kill me kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   you to be civil like that I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   patient I've been gracious it's a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   right out of you know typical you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   cutting to adulthood relationships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   marriage or whatever just only was in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   that time just mixed in you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   that he has is having the same squabble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   the women the woman is abject terror but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   he thinks he's in a domestic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   well that's did in that verse splits it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   exactly in half reading from the lyrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   you know it isn't easy living here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   skull crusher mountain maybe you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   cut me just a little slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   would it kill you to be civil I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   patient I've been gracious and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   and this mountain is covered with Wolves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   to hear them howling my hungry children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   get switches right back into and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   that's the way I spoke to my game yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   right i like how he tries to calm her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   down by saying listen the voices inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   my head that control me tell me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   shouldn't kill you yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   yeah that's love is what you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   was speaking about the recorded version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   of that song I never heard that yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   of course live you hear that yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   you know he's singing and he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   enunciated i think i like to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   without that yet saying the voice in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   head said I shouldn't kill you as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   that's reassuring like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20   you're listening to the voices in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   head that they're advising on who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   should or shouldn't kill is disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   enough that you don't need to yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   think we get your right is very subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   in the record so what side it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   falsetto the note that rises at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   yep that John would you perform their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   fruits that is not yeah my duty as a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:40   audience Scott Scott share with us your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   second song i am going to pick some a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   fairly straightforward song that perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   many people would not pick but i am an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   odd fellow so i'm going to pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   presidents Washington came first news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2095">TS</a>]

00:35:00   John and skips out with friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04   Jefferson me to Louisiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:09   Madison chicken British in hand changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   Quincy and the very straightforward song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   wow it is he just sings about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   president's a little fact about them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   enjoy a couple things about this song a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   I like history and songs about history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   so there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   I'm a junkie I enjoy the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   uses a toy instruments in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:36   yes that amuses me greatly and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   the fact that so it was written in 2005 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   so he gets to the end and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   George W Bush is the president then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   wasn't there i should say might get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   texts correct and so he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   george w bush and he says he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   through you know the countries in a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:56   position and nobody knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   happening and I don't like to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   political statements and then there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   a couple of beats there so he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   doesn't say anything and then it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:05   back to the the verse and chorus i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   should say so it just amuses me greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   it's a very straightforward song not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   that deep or layered but sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   just want a song that lists all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   president's give you a fact about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   after after codemonkey might buy made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   Colton playlist for my kids and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   really enjoyed the president's but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   I started asking questions particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   about the Clinton cigar line we gave an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:32   internal cigar right yeah and I left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   first of May off that list as well and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   like that the the fact that he chooses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   to say about some of the president's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:44   like you know grover cleveland serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   another term so there you go that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   good and at this is that we write some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   of the descriptions are you know fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   accurate and it's hard to get a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   history of a president a single lyric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   you know but saying Jefferson made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   Louisiana Purchase is good and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   get like Nixon was a filthy dirty liar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   you take this is also fairly adequate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   description it I i do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   juxtaposition of the or I think my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   favorite lyric I do like that that pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   that you reference got but Lincoln save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   the Union that he died i like sex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   like that that's the history of lincoln [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   as you say the Union and they're dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   i laughs I laughs at Lincoln said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   every time and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   suit suit laughs well my my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:29   selection does come from artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   heart and I think it's okay if we if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   take a parallel track here because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   think my inference here is the greg koss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   is not necessarily as a narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:41   artificial heart as you might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   rest of the cold and cannon I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   putting your words your mouth so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   will have a chance to prove me wrong I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   disagree you know it i'm disappointed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   myself that I don't like it more I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   want to box him in as an artist and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   realize he's he's reaching here he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   extending but unlike some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   experimental stuff like bacteria I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   stand but I am disappointed that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   like it because I know what he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   to do and I don't want him to keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   the same thing for the next 20 years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   I it just it's not the same for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:13   should give it a chance because I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   of felt the same way when I first got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   the album but it is totally like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   them are it's kinda like thing week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19   where some of them are just forgettable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   and you're like okay that didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   but other ones are real growers as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   call them and they have really easy up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   several these could have made my top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   three lies adjusted there's so much back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   catalogue history we move the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   songs that none of these have been in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   in my heart long enough to crack the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   three for you so just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   uninitiated uninitiated artificial heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   is Jonathan Colton's first full band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   down produced by John Flansburg they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   might be giants and it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   every other song that he had released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   essentially had been done by him at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   generally with his acoustic guitar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   electronic drums in whatever keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   he could finagle and so this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   full band playing with him and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   first of my 22 artificial hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   elections is alone at home i am glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:11   shopping here I will kill you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:23   I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:27   shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:39   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   which is another one where I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   it gets extra credit for being great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:48   me in both the lyrical sense and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   you know just the the music itself I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   think is excellently arranged but I her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:57   loaded home live when Colton was opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   for they might be giants at the stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   pony in New Jersey and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:07   that because the the album only launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   two days later them and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   that added to my affection for the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   because hearing it unveiling live to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   for the first time was exciting but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   song is a song is very that the singer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:23   is very angry and hateful toward his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:24   wife or significant other in my view and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:29   you know first easy the first verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   you know it's kind of gig already and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   we said you know it's it's another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   where it kind of keeps building things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   you know where I'm going to sit here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   this chair while you're shopping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   I'll watch your person I'll take care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   it while you do your thing and it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   because i'm alone at home and I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   much of the lyrics of the song i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   are straightforward i feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   chorus is open to interpretation what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   exactly means my saying he's alone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   home i think is up for debate but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   don't know that as that song builds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   he says he'll make room for your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   when you buy stuff the canvas or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   that he'll pretend to be nice to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   parents when you visit them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05   it's he clearly has fallen out of love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   and I i think that whole thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   it's a hilarious thing to write a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   about at least in the way that he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   and the cryptic chorus keeps me coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   back and i really like the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:21   way he sings the chorus very energetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   and then and catchy i think yes I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   he has nice access again as a by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   time Mary person nice access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   kinds of small things that can magnify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   in a marriage to get on your nerves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   the you know he has a limited number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   words in these verses so he's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   chosen very carefully and this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   think makes him a brilliant as a linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   system connecting with people like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   particulars were that bit where he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   we can talk about plans for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   cousin's birthday if you haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   married married no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   how is that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   was that you know something that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   bitter or angry about but sometimes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:59   you just you know your your wife will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   way more interested in talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   plans for cousins birthday then you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   and the fact that she's interviewed want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   to talk about it will be annoying to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   and that's something that you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   you wouldn't have had access to if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   weren't in that situation yourself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   couldn't relate to it that that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   lyric ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:17   I think it's a mystery John that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   said sometimes your wife is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   interested in your mind is always were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   just talking about those kind of terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28   of the most compelling lyric that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29   know and John you made the point a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   couple times that it feels like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:32   coming from his real-world experience is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   the entirety of the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   you know I don't want you to make it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37   to me I just wanted everyone to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   way we are over this way can we just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   make this a thing all of which feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   like pulled from maybe I I mean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   every conversation I've had with my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   but yeah it was magnified like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50   actually has access to those feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   he's not actually in that situation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   he can take that and say I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   exists now map it onto this character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   this song because it's coming from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   real place it's not not autobiographical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   he's doing a great songwriters do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   don't have to live through this horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   experiences you just have to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   how they could come to be and so now I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   can write something that's true about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   people who are in this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   well let's do a the third and final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   round before we get to our broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   Colton discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   Jon you're up again yeah it's a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   choice because again just limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   three is killing me and i'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:20   sneeze making it mentions of other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   but i'm going to pick this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   it's the least like the other ones it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   a very simple song that i really started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   to like the first time I heard him live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29   and he played it I guess I figured you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   know he likes this song so much he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   decides to pull out live and it's fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   obscure maybe I should give it another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   listen and and I didn't have definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   grown me it's I'm your moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   invented reason that's why it stings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:48   they don't think you mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   because you don't have to keep telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:58   you I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:07   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   which is a very straightforward not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:14   funny at all song that doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   be about anything other than what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   seems to be about which is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   relationship with the moon analogy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   is actually about Pluto and its moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   that is almost the same size as Pluto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   and that little extra geeky twist makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:29   its i like i like how it's nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   calming and it's fun to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   but knowing that it's also about Pluto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   and its moon you at it gives it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   extra twist that that again tickles me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   while I listen to it and i can i can if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   i could appreciate strap even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   wasn't about Pluto but that extra bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   puts it over the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   I think that's a great choice that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   have been my fourth choice i might might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   my third choices along the same lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   it's very straightforward and it's sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   is you ruined everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   I was fine the pull myself together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:05   just-in-time throw myself away one my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:15   perfect world was gone I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:21   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   Francis way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   and my kids were little older when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   first heard this song but I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   found a song that expressed the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:37   I was terrified of having children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   it was this giant that undoable decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:43   and it apparently so far it's worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   but there's this notion of it I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   irrevocably changing my life right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   and I'm happy it happened I I dearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:56   love my children but there's also a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   of me that I sacrificed for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   sometimes I didn't miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:05   that's kind of the thing they don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   you about parenthood like before you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   becoming a parent people only one ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   tell you oh you're gonna love it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   you can love your kids so much all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   is true but no one will tell you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   because I guess it makes them to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   seem like a bad person if you go up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   someone and say listen and you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   kid let me tell you all the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   about it and you ruined everything again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   must have been written by someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   has actually had kids and said ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   tell you right there are so many great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   things about it and the heart of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   song is sweet but part of you dies at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:34   the lyric that gets me every time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   what he says I can't think of who I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   before you ruined everything in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   nicest way and that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   thought that echoes to me the most often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   you know I i could I thought we had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   kid I thought what the hell did i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   before i had this kid we had to what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   hell do I said 1-3 what the hell that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   don't I said to and at neck that lyric I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   really speaks to me in a very poignant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   have you guys ever like after kids were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   born you know six months nine months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   after you're born you ever find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   like driving to work and staring at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   studio apartments as you went by doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:08   have the medium that has the makings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   a good Jonathan Coulton song i could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   so much done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   yes I need a futon an internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   connection that's the name of your album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   be telling edit a connection that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   that's the suites on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   I like that yeah all right Scott your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   third and final selection i am going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   choose a song from artificial heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   final selection nemec's run fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:42   promise me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   first of all your enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:51   friend to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   joy it's about a never see his midst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:02   a pretty straightforward so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   about the idea that it is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:09   vantage point of the viewpoint of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   person who is the Nemesis or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   suggesting to another person that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   should be in embassies so that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   fulfill each other's lives basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   because I wouldn't i won't seem as crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   you won't see him as crazy if we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   competing with each other and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   you know kill each other basically and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   will constantly be following you lurking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   in the shadows trying to support you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   it will all make sense because we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   embassies so that will we will complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   each up so it's an interesting kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   strange song I think and I i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   collecting embassies myself so it speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   there can only be one bearded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   singer-songwriter on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   well this is this situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52   someone has wants to be someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   nemesis I and perhaps the other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   doesn't know that that person really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   wants to be their nemesis so badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   yes you're pretending you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   know my name well played all part of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   all-party am right nut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   it's another foil love song isn't it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:10   it's a duet with John Roderick whose is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   whose great this was my introduction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   him as a singer and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   interesting mix of voice sounds that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   it and that's actually interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   element of artificial heart is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   there are is it three tracks for tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   where Jonathan Coulton is not the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30   vocalist which is kind of unusual when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   you buy a an album from someone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   think they're going to sing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   songs and never cease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   now i'm an arsonist the third version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41   stay up still alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   yeah but he makes up for it work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   nobody loves you like me where Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   Coulton at nine times so for my last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50   song it like i said it does come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   artificial heart night I far be it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   me to casualty list of songs that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   make the cut but they were very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   like curl not about you blew sunny day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   today with your wife and good morning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   sign but the song that i picked was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   it's I guess like Scott's caveat i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   say you know it's it is cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   a very superficial song but i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   so brilliantly crafted and unlike any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:15   song i had heard previously and yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   obvious that this kind of song should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   exist when you hear it and that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   sweet Rick Springfield neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24   he's got back yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:28   share the quad coming no share hey rama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:37   nam provide just explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:42   it's very very simple very simple melody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:55   and really a relatively simple concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   all although still with a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   ambiguity where the singer is the singer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   either claims to be or is in fact Rick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   Springfield and apparently in France or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   in some other french-speaking location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   reminding people about his greatness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   assuring them he that he is indeed Rick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   Springfield but doing it all in French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   and then even questioning his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   friends I guess it kind of goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   one thing that I like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   where he's correcting himself or he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   trying to verify that he was pronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   the French words or phrases the French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   words correctly in song and i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   i like when singers second-guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   themselves in within a song and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   know something about that song i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   help but rock out to it in the car no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   matter who's looking in the windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   it's i don't know i think it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   yeah that the nice thing about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   rework Springfield for me is that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   the language i took in high school was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   french so i could actually more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   understand the lyrics the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   heard the song and that's the case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   I was training very hard to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   it because when I when I saw this I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   him he was auditioning the artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   heart songs in Boston he came up and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   a small show with the band was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   time I'd seem to the band was way before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   the element come out and one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   instructions like hey here's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07   excellent off the new album was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   released yet and it's all in French it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   like okay let me get out my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   French listening years and that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   listen listen to the words straight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   it's it is very kind of high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   French structured you don't it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   sophisticated french i think he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   using his high school French to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   thing and so that that was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   and also now when he doesn't like he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   a middle section where he does a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   bit of Jessie's Girl which blends nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   into the song very cool so let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   go a little bit broader in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   we've been permitted for me i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   the jonathan coulton is very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39   keeping with other artists listen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   know my other favorite bands are bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   like they might be giants and Al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   Yankovic and I don't know Moxie frutos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   or barenaked ladies all of which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   have that other people might define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   their commonality differently for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   what is what i like about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   but they all appear to take what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3176">TS</a>]

00:53:00   take their craft very seriously but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   take themselves very seriously and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   let that show in in the kind of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   they create which I really appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   whatever reason he speaks to me so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   would say that he's you know old news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   one of that genre and in keeping from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:15   but my I throw the equation everyone did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   you feel that this is he typically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   kind of music you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   i would say no for me he is up i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:24   little bit of they might be giants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   mostly for the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   I was never really particularly into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27   them except for the few low you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   breakthroughs like you know a triangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   man or whatever that was on MTV when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   was a kid but I was no never really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   that weird out i had very few weird al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39   songs you know thrown into my collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   but never bought any of his albums was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   never into it and I think the reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   broke through for me is no it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:50   the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:51   why nerds get obsessed with other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   made by nerds like you know firefly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   other series on television that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3236">TS</a>]

00:54:00   know the JJ Abrams stop using that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   clearly made by nerds who we relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   because with music as for the bands that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   I like and I like totally generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   run-of-the-mill bands anyone my age like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   oh you like Bruce Springsteen you to REM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   and radiohead well that's novel right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   you know everyone likes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   middle-of-the-road bands but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   the sneaking suspicion that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   these famous people who make this music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   that you love and I really do love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   bands as cliche as they are for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   like them you have the suspicion that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   you were to hang out with them you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   have nothing in common because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   not like they're not your people I there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   they're not into the things you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   they wouldn't they wouldn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   your humor they wouldn't have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   cynical view of the world they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   they're just different and you love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   music they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   partially because it's different they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   can talk about things that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   experience but when Jonathan Coulton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   came along he was here love joy here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   this person to you felt like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   way that this person could know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   stuff about my secret heart if he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   also experienced some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   and so I think he appeals because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   two major touch points are obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   references and sadness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   yeah well it's not just that like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   not that's the thing that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   about him I think of another artist came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   out and they did these similar songs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   these every one of these songs could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09   take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10   bad turn for example you I you ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   everything that song would not be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   song it was like a song like oh these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   kids they ruin everything that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   what the song is about at its heart it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   it's sweet you know what i mean and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   many on something on a Razors Edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   being crappy versions of themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   he never goes there and so all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   songs like finally yes this person he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   under you know he seems to understand me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   and I felt like I hang out with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   person then we would have something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   talk about it it's it's almost 11 of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   broke through like a nerd was made who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   actually have musical talent who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   understood lyrics pop music you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   hooks and enough music manship to to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   through and it's like yeah one of ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   made it in the same way that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   much more of those making movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   television out in the music around there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   so so few that might be giants probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   qualifies but they never quite broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   through to me but around the Colton's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   lyrics and music where such a connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   with like what's deep down inside of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   that I just immediately latched on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   you know it's that that last point for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   me i think is is really good i like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   said repeatedly now i'm a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   weird al's but you know one of his i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   think one of his highest charting songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   of all time was white and nerdy apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   song ridin by chamillionaire which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   would imagine most people who like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   i had never heard of before he parried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   it but it you know he's constantly made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   reference to with white nerdy it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   song i was doing research for my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   life but he's not the same kind of nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   that I think you're referring to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   you know he's making relatively try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   jokes about you know Star Trek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44   pocket protectors and and stuff they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   editing Wikipedia there's not a core of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   emotion that is in colton songs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52   that's exactly right i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   what's that I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   difference is that he doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   he knows about it but he doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   connected to it but it i mean where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   like we're down but we're doubt tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   jokes Colton has the lyrics and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:04   humor reflect the core of emotion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   without that core of emotion you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   going to have the same kind of wordplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   the same kind of twists the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   little you know knife under the rib to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   the to the lyrics that you do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   you're just making javascript jokes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   kind of like is like an SAS like if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   was just thinking that no musical talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   however and didn't write songs he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24   be a very clever effort SAS for like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   know suck com or something if we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   go back in time to you know or the onion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   or something like that right and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   gonna sound terrible and I was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   getting it this and my other analogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   but I figure my soldiers bring it out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   sound terrible because why not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   these people aren't gonna find me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   yell at me you it's it's the feeling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   have as a disaffected nerdy youth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   it's not fair that you're smarter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48   everyone else but nobody likes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   anyway right like that being smart is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   not worth anything and you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   never met any famous musicians but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   get the feeling that you know Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   Coulton is smarter than bono Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   culture and Colton is smarter than Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   Springsteen right eye and its and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   think it shows in his writing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   his writing is smarter is it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   writing doesn't make for better music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   jonathan coulton better than Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:10   Springsteen I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   necessarily the case but it speaks to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   in a way that like that that that here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   a guy who's using his brain in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   way that I felt like I would use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   brain if I had any time whatsoever for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   writing music or lyrics like yes that me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   that's what I'm you know it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   such an incredible connection and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   strange to me because i think does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   prevent him from ever connecting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   like the rest of the world the normals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   you know because he everything he writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   is so unashamedly it's not just like pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   culture references and stuff it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   insight and cynicism and and sentiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:45   all mixed together in the same soup in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   the same way that it is inside you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   their brains how many mainstream pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   songs have actually sent required that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   you go look something up it or taught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:56   you anything because because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   love to learn new things so he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   understand medley make parts of the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   educational but its side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   I when I read you know the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   wikipedia entry for serious Johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   because i had no idea who he is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   i live on the west coast or the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   he put the formula for when I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   wrong no but that's ok it's the Julia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   set but but he had the formula for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   fractal in a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   well that's what I was going to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21   would have been another on my list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   like top 10 or whatever because I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   he's got a song about fractals so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   like that so you know it's cute and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   some history and a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   educational but that the brilliant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   about him is that he's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:33   settle for that i'm not going to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   cute little song about fractals that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:35   little bit educational isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   and find the song about fractals and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   curse he has decided he's thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   it and decided there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   significant about fractals and he puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   it in the course change the world in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   tiny way they did that little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   change the world not in a big way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   some smart person use their brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   change the world in a tiny tiny way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   through and I enjoyed that song because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   i went to see Mandelbrot to give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   lecture once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   lecture once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   when I was in college and I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   what he's talking about about he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   introduced himself and that was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   after that I had no idea what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   talking about but it was great to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   because he had so much passion and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3608">TS</a>]

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01:02:17   is because of his lyrical abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3737">TS</a>]

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01:03:16   to the lyrics you realize this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/3796">TS</a>]

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01:07:47   like not even as big as my house he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4067">TS</a>]

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01:08:12   in this piece that he links to where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4092">TS</a>]

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01:08:23   success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4103">TS</a>]

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01:08:26   said that he said that an NPR interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   when he was being interviewed on NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   like last year or so it was planet money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   and the MSM him he regretted that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   said anything about how much your inbred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   but like they got it out of him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   disappointed in an interview and so was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4119">TS</a>]

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01:08:41   musician jonathan coulton this one hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4121">TS</a>]

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01:08:49   coulton business model and that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4129">TS</a>]

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01:09:04   going to have the broad appeal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4144">TS</a>]

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01:09:07   deserves the broad appeal because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4147">TS</a>]

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01:09:11   he is but just because like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   guess the same reason you think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:14   unfair that people you think are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4154">TS</a>]

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01:09:18   artistic insight and cleverness and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4158">TS</a>]

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01:09:24   just not appreciated by the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   majority of the population but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   reason he's so deeply appreciated by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   minority of the population is because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   is specifically who he is the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34   that limits his broad appeal is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   inspires the deep appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   maybe we wouldn't be doing a podcast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4178">TS</a>]

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01:09:43   hugely popular well that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4183">TS</a>]

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01:09:47   impossible to appeal but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4187">TS</a>]

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01:09:53   or movies because you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54   television or movies that speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   directly to us nerds and we love it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4195">TS</a>]

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01:09:59   interesting and it's not dumb down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   all and yet also has broad appeal also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   is critically acclaimed also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4203">TS</a>]

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01:10:11   music is not very comic book movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   weren't big releases 20 years ago that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   wouldn't be the example I would use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   i would say like yeah well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4216">TS</a>]

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01:10:20   of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   area i think i think the general culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:25   is moving more in his direction but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   way out and yes and they could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   could catch up to him but I've got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:32   would be a great day for the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4232">TS</a>]

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01:10:42   roommate y le yeah like you he was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4242">TS</a>]

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01:10:45   him and he is on the daily show but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   daily show and the books have been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4248">TS</a>]

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01:10:54   lower bar that commitment you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   sell a couple hundred thousand copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   a book but also popular for a musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   is the same as popular for authors and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4259">TS</a>]

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01:11:04   REM but you know Justin Justin Bieber is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4264">TS</a>]

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01:11:11   every author whose I guess making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   impact on the culture but I see Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   Coulton so I love justin bieber's books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   but so i guess i guess my response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4278">TS</a>]

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01:11:27   successful artist you know he you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4287">TS</a>]

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01:12:53   well I want to say thank you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4373">TS</a>]

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01:12:59   for a very interesting talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   Jonathan Coulton so thank you John Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   and Greg thank you thank you x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4383">TS</a>]

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01:16:08   McLuhan but most people probably think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4568">TS</a>]

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01:16:23   that Marshall McLuhan reference on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4583">TS</a>]

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01:16:31   was singing a song and the video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32   didn't sing a song in a video game but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4592">TS</a>]

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01:16:54   would think it was funny but they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4614">TS</a>]

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01:17:15   hopefully last year and now I of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   have dug back into the back catalogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4637">TS</a>]

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01:18:27   moon regarding your brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:31   which I think we've clearly establishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4711">TS</a>]

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01:18:37   soon the precedence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   wow you ruined everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4719">TS</a>]

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01:18:54   favorite only because it's me you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4734">TS</a>]

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01:18:59   ones musically it's a little a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4739">TS</a>]

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01:19:04   pointed out that his kids he made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4744">TS</a>]

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01:19:19   heart and then stamp intensified on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:22   so it was a warm fuzzy secret heart but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:25   when they get to the president's they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4765">TS</a>]

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01:20:20   yeah yeah it's funny you mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4820">TS</a>]

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01:20:24   about my mom once when i started writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:27   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4827">TS</a>]

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01:20:32   has never once dragged me around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   mall and made me hold her purse she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:36   knows better than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:37   and the only reason I got away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   actually writing and releasing that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:42   is because she she knows that she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:45   never made me do that couldn't couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   possibly be about her but with your mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4847">TS</a>]

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01:21:02   gonna my multi-tool live downtown with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4862">TS</a>]

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01:21:05   from also I nobody i knew was there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4865">TS</a>]

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01:21:10   with a bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11   I'm gonna go sit over there yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   hopefully i went to the bookstore before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   we got to the department store so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   have a book with me too and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20   often find a number of other shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22   orphans you know you see other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   and even that you see husband sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   benches and in women's clothing stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4886">TS</a>]

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01:21:30   world could you know you know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   what they're going through my wife is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:33   knitter and the Knitting stories have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   got this down they have they have soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:38   chairs and magazines it's like a waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41   room 444 husbands and children because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:45   they know that that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:46   happens and and so we were just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:49   vacation and my wife likes to go to yarn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   stores when she's on vacation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   they're always the good yarn shops have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   appt little place for the husband's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   go said your wife and my wife should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   maybe get together and do some knitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   knitting my wife is also also a nigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:04   and a yarn shopper I I don't mind I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   thought I find the yarn shops very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   pleasant there's just not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   anything for me to do because I its yarn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   I'm not that excited about the yarn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   they can do anything with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   they should have when they when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:17   make it yet they should have a yarn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:19   store that also has a bar in a ferment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:20   and that's it that's going to some a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:22   of them have tea which is not bad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   the yarn the urine bar is a great idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   was thinking either yarn or they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   comment like have a combination like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:29   yarn and I'm not like comic book store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:32   or something just like completely just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   together with one of those little doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   between them connecting doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   yeah you could do a lot worse yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   for that alright so alone at home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:45   and and the president surprises this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   surprising the other ones the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49   definitely feel like you know ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52   i would clear included on a list of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   most most beloved by me and my fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:58   yeah but there's this dude is to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4978">TS</a>]

01:22:59   like slightly like outliers to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   there were gasps when the president was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   brought up in the podcast i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05   that i know i'm shocked but it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:10   having everybody I not not to be funding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   suck-up interview guy but everybody did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   say that one of the things I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   about your music is that there's a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   could very easily be really really nasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   and cynical and it's not that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   real a real genuine heart at the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   center of things and a a song like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:29   ruined everything could very easily be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   pointed a little bit off-kilter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:35   instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:35   despite you know the subject matter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   very clearly a loving story of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:40   rumination which we all which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   parents have gone through write some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   yeah yeah and I bet it's nice that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:47   know my my favorite thing is when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   appreciate that aspect of what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:52   because it's you know I tried to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   you know it's very hard to write a love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:57   song in general and for me the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59   i can write a love song is to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:00   love song that is as complicated as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:04   actual love is which is to say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:08   never it's never just it's never as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   sunny and bright as as most songs would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13   have you believe it's always it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   kind of twisted and sad but i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:18   rough the rough edges or give it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   definition right exactly something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   that yeah well I one last question and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   then i'll let you go and thank you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   so much for doing this and that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   a personal question and you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29   don't have an answer but I have debated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:32   with myself literally every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   listen to today with your wife i change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   my opinion about what it's about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   perhaps it's just intentionally I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:41   like you'll be asking you to spoil it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   now even if there is a defensive end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44   like to believe that it's a very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   song about somebody who who died but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:50   then then I listen to it again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:51   we only it doesn't you know he might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53   be dead he could be gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   or just a on inattentive or he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:59   he he went out and never came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   but for whatever reason I think I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   to be just a super sad sweepy song about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:07   the tragic aftermath of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   father of these kids in this husband of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11   this wife dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   yeah do you have a specific meaning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:14   is it really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   however you interpret it uh you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:19   think I geez it's complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:24   you know I when I when I wrote that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   I was thinking about what i think is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:32   favorite song in the world which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:34   song called famous blue raincoat by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   letter telling which describes a love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:40   triangle it's actually a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   it's a letter read aloud and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:46   the lyrics of the song and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   sensitive person writing to somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   has wronged him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   there's some sort of love triangle its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   never fully explained what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:55   things are alluded to but he the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58   is writing to he he clearly loved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:02   also hated and it's it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:06   beautiful piece of storytelling and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   when I the colonel for the idea of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:12   song was that i actually was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   somewhere and it was raining and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:18   stopped under an awning and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:21   friend's wife with her kids and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:27   she's also my friend and we chatted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:31   a little while and then the rain let up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:32   and we went home and I was thinking as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:36   was leaving I was thinking about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   next time I saw my friend i would say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:42   that joking leering way you know ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:45   of had a fantastic time with your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47   this afternoon and then as I was as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:50   was imagining myself saying that to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:53   it occurred to me that in my circle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:57   friends which includes a few people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:00   have had their relationships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   marriages splinter apart in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:05   that's not really a funny joke anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:08   and so then you know that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:13   the beginning of be writing that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:14   was using that using that line as a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   of pivoting into this area of incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   sadness and the complications of adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:22   relationships but I also as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   writing it was thinking a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   Leonard Cohen song and wanting to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   it I i noticed that there was the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   sort of that unclear subject was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:37   from the beginning and I wanted to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   it as ambiguous as possible and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:42   secret and mysterious as possible in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   same with the Leonard Cohen song is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   your overhearing somebody taught they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   not talking to you at all you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   happen to be eavesdropping on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53   and so i wanted i wanted to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   that feel well I'd well don't answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:58   I don't know I don't know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5278">TS</a>]

01:27:59   truly about because I wrote I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:02   around it but I do know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04   incredibly sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05   yes oh yeah definitely I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   why I wanted to be about somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   died because if it's not then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:11   really sad for tuesday really sad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14   they if they're all still out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   then these lines yeah going on like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   but yeah well well well done it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   definitely i love that I mean I i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:23   to watch a movie if I if I just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   nod and say that was fun I leave and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   never think about it again I'd almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   rather have a movie that I end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   thinking about for a week and deciding I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   didn't like like Inception i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   thinking about for a weekend in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:37   I was like you know I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:38   liked it but i'm so happy that i saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   because I thought about it and it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:41   of you have a song like that where every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   time I listen I think well now I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:47   sounds different and it's the same track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49   over and over but it yet it it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:52   there's a different meeting every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:53   listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:53   so that was definitely my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:54   with that with that Leonard Cohen song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   is for years i have i have listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   that song and thought about it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:00   wasn't listening to it and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:02   unravel the story and I you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:05   have built up in my head all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07   complicated backstory about what went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   based on that song and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   that's that's an amazing thing for song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13   yeah that's it thank you that's nice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaY7io/5353">TS</a>]

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