The Incomparable

97: Everybody Loves Hypnotoad


00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 97 july [TS]

00:00:08   twenty well [TS]

00:00:11   welcome back to another episode of the [TS]

00:00:14   incomparable i'm glenn fleischmann [TS]

00:00:16   substituting for Jason L who is [TS]

00:00:18   indisposed [TS]

00:00:19   he's been disposed of somewhere in the [TS]

00:00:21   Pacific Northwest right now and this [TS]

00:00:23   week we're talking about futurama the [TS]

00:00:25   animated TV series that has more lives [TS]

00:00:28   than any program I believe ever on [TS]

00:00:30   television to TV show that's one of the [TS]

00:00:33   geekiest most scientifically accurate [TS]

00:00:35   programs of fiction ever broadcast and i [TS]

00:00:40   have with me tonight three guests to [TS]

00:00:44   talk about the show and Enoch oh you [TS]

00:00:47   know and Enoch oh great guy that guy we [TS]

00:00:50   love him he's on many podcast you hear [TS]

00:00:53   him on macbreak weekly is that right [TS]

00:00:55   that's true on your mom the incomparable [TS]

00:00:58   here mon boy squeaking podcast and any [TS]

00:01:01   runs the celestial excuse me the [TS]

00:01:04   celestial waste of time saying sightron [TS]

00:01:06   selected you'll waste of time [TS]

00:01:09   a celestial waste of bandwidth because [TS]

00:01:11   this is located on the internet or [TS]

00:01:12   bandwidth this used to be a one-point [TS]

00:01:14   important no longer finance so thank you [TS]

00:01:17   Andy for joining us and also have been [TS]

00:01:19   but knee-deep Brittany of Boing Boing [TS]

00:01:21   the code wrangler they're responsible [TS]

00:01:24   for its back ND and welcome to the [TS]

00:01:26   incomparable I want to thank you and [TS]

00:01:28   Dean has recently completed watching [TS]

00:01:30   futurama back-to-front so he can talk in [TS]

00:01:32   depth about anything that we forgotten [TS]

00:01:34   how much more recently and i also have [TS]

00:01:36   Jonathan self who is a first timer on [TS]

00:01:38   the incomparable John is executive [TS]

00:01:41   editor at a funny publication that [TS]

00:01:42   writes about shiny objects that some [TS]

00:01:46   people buy that are aluminum and pretty [TS]

00:01:48   tight right my shiny metal Mac bite my [TS]

00:01:51   shiny metal that's right so thanks for [TS]

00:01:54   being on everybody and so the futurama [TS]

00:01:57   was funny it's a I want to think it was [TS]

00:01:59   an acquired taste that when I first [TS]

00:02:01   found out about the show I thought I was [TS]

00:02:03   the only one watching and it turned out [TS]

00:02:04   that was sort of true at one point you [TS]

00:02:06   know futurama has this crazy history of [TS]

00:02:09   being on the air it comes from for [TS]

00:02:12   listeners who don't know the show and [TS]

00:02:15   you'll have a chance to explore its has [TS]

00:02:17   had several seasons now those seasons [TS]

00:02:19   have broken up in a sort of ridiculous [TS]

00:02:21   way it was an outgrowth of some ways of [TS]

00:02:24   the simpsons is co-created by matt [TS]

00:02:26   groening a simpsons creator and one of [TS]

00:02:28   the longtime writers and showrunners [TS]

00:02:30   david cohen David X Cohen x not his real [TS]

00:02:33   middle name who came up with this notion [TS]

00:02:37   Matt back to it and they created this [TS]

00:02:39   spinoff show that was supposed to run [TS]

00:02:41   around the same time as the simpsons on [TS]

00:02:43   the Fox television network in the end [TS]

00:02:46   fox for some reason they had this [TS]

00:02:48   strange antipathy for the show it's not [TS]

00:02:50   that disrupted poorly but they like to [TS]

00:02:52   move it around a lot so it first aired [TS]

00:02:54   from 1999-2000 three on broadcast [TS]

00:02:57   television with any given week you [TS]

00:02:59   wouldn't know where you'd find it on the [TS]

00:03:01   what time would be on that week because [TS]

00:03:03   of football and other things then it was [TS]

00:03:05   in reruns from 2003-2007 on cartoon [TS]

00:03:08   network but it was did so well there [TS]

00:03:10   after a reboot of family guy [TS]

00:03:12   direct-to-dvd the Fox home television [TS]

00:03:16   network a different part of box that was [TS]

00:03:18   little clever 20th Century Fox [TS]

00:03:20   television portion i guess in the home [TS]

00:03:23   port heart commission for direct to DVD [TS]

00:03:26   movies that later within aired on Comedy [TS]

00:03:31   Central which they took over this [TS]

00:03:33   indication of the previously our [TS]

00:03:36   episodes and that's been on Comedy [TS]

00:03:38   Central since they did 26 new episodes [TS]

00:03:41   in 2010-2011 and the new season just [TS]

00:03:45   launched in middle of june with a two [TS]

00:03:48   back-to-back episodes in the season [TS]

00:03:49   premiere sort of crazy and i had the [TS]

00:03:51   opportunity for Boing Boing a few weeks [TS]

00:03:53   ago to talk to David X Cohen about the [TS]

00:03:57   show and and he you know he laughs it's [TS]

00:04:00   amazing laughs first here's the show has [TS]

00:04:01   not been continuously produced you know [TS]

00:04:03   since 9i tension is produced in fits and [TS]

00:04:05   starts but it's pretty amazing to [TS]

00:04:08   survive that long and its tribute I [TS]

00:04:10   think to the great great fan ship behind [TS]

00:04:14   it so anyway that's the that's what we [TS]

00:04:17   got to here now so this week we'll talk [TS]

00:04:20   about [TS]

00:04:21   the show more in-depth we like it's some [TS]

00:04:23   of our favorite episodes of new episodes [TS]

00:04:24   and in the future of futurama so and i [TS]

00:04:28   know that your big fan you you're one of [TS]

00:04:30   the folks who are advocating for [TS]

00:04:32   futurama seemed uncomfortable episode [TS]

00:04:35   what do you like about the show so much [TS]

00:04:37   have you been a fan from the beginning [TS]

00:04:39   yeah i mean you start off as a simpsons [TS]

00:04:41   fan and so you just hear the same team [TS]

00:04:43   that does the simpsons doing a new show [TS]

00:04:45   oh my god are you on board for that but [TS]

00:04:48   I really think that [TS]

00:04:49   futurama surpassed the simpsons probably [TS]

00:04:52   and that's not a slam against the [TS]

00:04:53   simpsons I think it's just because the [TS]

00:04:55   writers and approaches they get a break [TS]

00:04:57   and enforced break unfortunately but I i [TS]

00:05:00   think that they have had enough time to [TS]

00:05:01   really develop the characters time off [TS]

00:05:03   to explore other things and I do think [TS]

00:05:06   that they invest far far more in every [TS]

00:05:09   episode than any writing staff on any [TS]

00:05:11   other great animated series ever there [TS]

00:05:14   every to every time i'm at the end of a [TS]

00:05:16   really great episode [TS]

00:05:18   you're really aware of how they spurned [TS]

00:05:21   every opportunity to take a shortcut and [TS]

00:05:24   on so many other shows [TS]

00:05:26   they'll come up the they'll be an [TS]

00:05:27   interesting idea they lead off with and [TS]

00:05:29   then it sort of Peters out for five [TS]

00:05:30   minutes and they jump off and go into [TS]

00:05:32   something else I think the futurama it's [TS]

00:05:34   like they come with a really bizarre [TS]

00:05:36   idea that's really great Gilbert and [TS]

00:05:38   Sullivan style idea and then they sort [TS]

00:05:40   of like stop that part of the creative [TS]

00:05:42   meeting and they just sit around all day [TS]

00:05:44   and think about what are the [TS]

00:05:44   consequences of this like if if if [TS]

00:05:47   bender really was able to create a [TS]

00:05:50   60-percent scaled-down virtudes [TS]

00:05:53   60-percent scaled-down duplicates of [TS]

00:05:55   themselves at will [TS]

00:05:57   what would eventually happen based on [TS]

00:05:59   not only what we know about these [TS]

00:06:01   characters but also what we know about [TS]

00:06:02   science and they will play it out to the [TS]

00:06:04   very very very and I was watching a [TS]

00:06:07   bunch of episodes over the past two or [TS]

00:06:09   three days and it really occurred to me [TS]

00:06:11   that how many different times have we [TS]

00:06:12   witnessed different characters or maybe [TS]

00:06:14   the entire cast experiencing the [TS]

00:06:18   entirety of the universe's evolution [TS]

00:06:20   from start to finish [TS]

00:06:22   I was that I was watching one of my [TS]

00:06:23   favorite shows a clockwork origin and [TS]

00:06:26   once again here's another one where they [TS]

00:06:28   get to watch everything [TS]

00:06:30   from start to finish was looking at the [TS]

00:06:33   late Philip J fry in which they [TS]

00:06:35   refreshments the time machine that can [TS]

00:06:36   only move forward and they have to watch [TS]

00:06:38   the entire creation and death of the [TS]

00:06:40   universe three times they have a beloved [TS]

00:06:42   kind of OCD that said no no we can't [TS]

00:06:45   skip anything if they have a time [TS]

00:06:46   machine that only goes forward this is [TS]

00:06:48   the only way they can possibly get back [TS]

00:06:51   the science is wonderful but and the in [TS]

00:06:53   here again they're doing things in a [TS]

00:06:55   really difficult way I I loved a [TS]

00:06:57   clockwork origin because it starts off [TS]

00:07:00   the way that you would assume that a [TS]

00:07:02   very nerd geek oriented show would go [TS]

00:07:04   over we're going to talk about [TS]

00:07:06   protesters protesting the teaching of [TS]

00:07:08   evolution and you serve clasping your [TS]

00:07:11   hands are great they're going to really [TS]

00:07:12   stick it to those people who want [TS]

00:07:13   although textbooks rewritten to say that [TS]

00:07:16   you know that the universe was created [TS]

00:07:17   600 they're going to really stick it to [TS]

00:07:19   them and by the end of the show they're [TS]

00:07:21   actually saying well actually there's a [TS]

00:07:23   possibility that creationism really [TS]

00:07:25   exists maybe we shouldn't actually [TS]

00:07:27   dismiss these people as idiots because [TS]

00:07:29   there is a way that evolution and [TS]

00:07:31   creationism can actually sit [TS]

00:07:32   side-by-side that is not only a [TS]

00:07:34   difficult thing to do [TS]

00:07:36   it's a risk keeping to do it really is [TS]

00:07:38   that idea that they always take the hard [TS]

00:07:39   way out and they make it so much better [TS]

00:07:42   for all that well I don't agree with [TS]

00:07:44   that too is where they see everything [TS]

00:07:46   through their conclusion they don't make [TS]

00:07:47   a cheap joke and right if and you know i [TS]

00:07:49   think another running joke in the show [TS]

00:07:51   is never agree is that the number of [TS]

00:07:52   times that Philip J fry dies he dies and [TS]

00:07:56   dies that he beat doctor who you know in [TS]

00:07:58   Doctor Who the current weather character [TS]

00:08:00   pains Rory Rory dies many times but I'm [TS]

00:08:03   afraid Philip fry has to hide don't know [TS]

00:08:05   how many times for real and fantasies in [TS]

00:08:09   you know with cloning and robots and [TS]

00:08:11   reassembly really is a thousand years [TS]

00:08:13   old so that was also he's also ancient [TS]

00:08:16   writings of thousands been frozen for a [TS]

00:08:17   thousand years i suppose in place should [TS]

00:08:19   be cap the you know for people who [TS]

00:08:21   haven't seen the shell there may be some [TS]

00:08:22   incompetent listeners the show [TS]

00:08:25   essentially follows Philip J fry is a [TS]

00:08:28   pizza delivery boy on the eve of the [TS]

00:08:30   terminal nem comes two thousand falls [TS]

00:08:33   into a cryogenic suspension chamber is [TS]

00:08:35   working in the year 3000 [TS]

00:08:37   and meets up with his many time [TS]

00:08:39   great-nephew dr. Farnsworth who is a mad [TS]

00:08:44   genius and runs delivery company and [TS]

00:08:47   hijinks ensue he falls in love so do you [TS]

00:08:52   just watch the entirety of the show [TS]

00:08:54   again the themes that emerged for you [TS]

00:08:56   from watching the whole thing from front [TS]

00:08:58   to back [TS]

00:08:59   yeah actually there are few things in [TS]

00:09:01   particular the way they the show changes [TS]

00:09:05   after its in cancelled and brought back [TS]

00:09:08   I and it like when they first come back [TS]

00:09:13   they take they they come back with think [TS]

00:09:16   season five numbers got weird to so i [TS]

00:09:21   think the four DVD movies or straight to [TS]

00:09:24   DVD movies i think are all supposedly [TS]

00:09:26   he's like 16 episodes of season 5 mm [TS]

00:09:29   technically well five on IMDb is the one [TS]

00:09:32   with Jurassic bark and the staying the [TS]

00:09:36   Farnsworth pair Farnsworth para box [TS]

00:09:38   those types of things on that season I [TS]

00:09:41   think technically that season four is [TS]

00:09:43   not once a season 5 says five on mtv [TS]

00:09:45   it's a little it's a little weird but no [TS]

00:09:49   but I don't you start to let that was [TS]

00:09:50   the last one of the farms work paradox [TS]

00:09:53   this was the last that was part of the [TS]

00:09:54   season was this 2003 yes one of the last [TS]

00:09:57   ones i realized i was looking at my [TS]

00:09:59   favorite episodes and several them come [TS]

00:10:00   from the end of the last broadcast run [TS]

00:10:03   and David Cohen said we talked recently [TS]

00:10:05   reminded me that the show is really [TS]

00:10:07   cancelled after season three and they [TS]

00:10:10   had so many episodes in the hopper that [TS]

00:10:12   the fourth season was bits and pieces of [TS]

00:10:14   everything that they hadn't yet aired so [TS]

00:10:16   a lot of good stuff showed up there but [TS]

00:10:18   they were just trying to be running it [TS]

00:10:19   out if you look at the production [TS]

00:10:21   numbers for those they're like third the [TS]

00:10:24   third season of production and they [TS]

00:10:26   aired and what was called the four [TS]

00:10:28   season and the season was mostly the [TS]

00:10:30   fourth season production like it's [TS]

00:10:32   really confusing especially when you're [TS]

00:10:33   trying to rip your dvds and then tag [TS]

00:10:36   them you have to try to figure out the [TS]

00:10:39   dvds have them in the production order [TS]

00:10:41   not in the running order so gets really [TS]

00:10:43   confusing when you're watching him from [TS]

00:10:44   the disk it goes from being kind of like [TS]

00:10:47   I jokes about the future [TS]

00:10:49   and things like that to this really [TS]

00:10:51   think II season all of a sudden it gets [TS]

00:10:53   very deep and it's talking about like I [TS]

00:10:56   you know fries dog and it's it's a very [TS]

00:10:59   emotional where his relation fries [TS]

00:11:02   relationship with Leela grows it grows a [TS]

00:11:04   lot and it changes quite a bit and then [TS]

00:11:06   it kind of it stops again there [TS]

00:11:09   we're not guiding a new Watchers to is [TS]

00:11:12   so Leela is the one I'd we first think [TS]

00:11:15   she's an alien the early seasons turns [TS]

00:11:16   out spoiler alert [TS]

00:11:18   Leela is actually a mutant from the [TS]

00:11:20   sewers underneath the city of New York [TS]

00:11:22   and she's the captain of the planet [TS]

00:11:25   express delivery ship that's one by one [TS]

00:11:28   by dr. Farnsworth and fries love [TS]

00:11:30   interest but she's always rejected and [TS]

00:11:32   partly because fries kind of an idiot he [TS]

00:11:34   sort of a homer simpson great idiot [TS]

00:11:36   within extreme streaks of cleverness and [TS]

00:11:39   persistence so that's part of the [TS]

00:11:42   running thing right is that this is a [TS]

00:11:43   the tension between whether they will [TS]

00:11:45   actually become a couple or not any more [TS]

00:11:47   of a slob and Homer Simpson actually so [TS]

00:11:49   he's got that going for him he goes from [TS]

00:11:52   just kind of being a slob and being [TS]

00:11:54   uninformed to kind of being an idiot and [TS]

00:11:57   and Homer Simpson kind of does the same [TS]

00:11:59   the same ah traversal there where he's [TS]

00:12:03   just he becomes the butt of the joke on [TS]

00:12:07   his own intelligence rather than his his [TS]

00:12:10   ignorance or his like misunderstanding [TS]

00:12:13   of situations and and it's a subtle [TS]

00:12:15   difference but it's it's kind of [TS]

00:12:17   disappointing i think to see him become [TS]

00:12:20   like such a brew basically wasn't the [TS]

00:12:23   problem in the simpsons to is that [TS]

00:12:24   homeowners intelligence varied from sub [TS]

00:12:26   Neanderthal to like almost normal for [TS]

00:12:29   episode episode and sometimes he came up [TS]

00:12:31   with a brilliant business ideas and [TS]

00:12:32   executed them at the same thing with fry [TS]

00:12:34   like if you look at the episode one of [TS]

00:12:36   my favorites the devil's hands are idle [TS]

00:12:38   playthings which fri does a deal with [TS]

00:12:40   the devil and compose this opera this [TS]

00:12:42   holographic opera but he has the ability [TS]

00:12:45   to compose an operating extra [TS]

00:12:46   intelligence just got the hands you like [TS]

00:12:48   wait a minute [TS]

00:12:49   he is such a sensitive soul and [TS]

00:12:50   intelligence to compose this you know [TS]

00:12:52   lyrical work and yet he can barely tie [TS]

00:12:54   his shoes remember to swallow it [TS]

00:12:57   listen I think he's more like Homer [TS]

00:12:58   Simpson without the without the ability [TS]

00:13:01   to get completely distracted and [TS]

00:13:03   unfocused disease easier basic guy in [TS]

00:13:07   his you know early to mid-twenties where [TS]

00:13:10   he hasn't found his life's goal yet he [TS]

00:13:13   hasn't found that drive and ambition I [TS]

00:13:15   don't think he's in he's a super idiot [TS]

00:13:17   he's just a little bit a bit of a [TS]

00:13:19   surface surface into let's just say but [TS]

00:13:22   but once he once he realized that [TS]

00:13:24   something has to be done [TS]

00:13:25   he's gonna work it out he's gonna get it [TS]

00:13:27   done we've seen so many feature on [TS]

00:13:28   episodes where he is absolutely [TS]

00:13:31   dedicated focused and devoted and yes [TS]

00:13:35   yes he has faithfully as a pair of lucky [TS]

00:13:37   pants that gets any situation but but [TS]

00:13:40   but but then you realize that the [TS]

00:13:43   writers actually like it appreciate that [TS]

00:13:45   because he's one in this episode in [TS]

00:13:47   which they need to evacuate the earth [TS]

00:13:48   there's an escape ship with a limited [TS]

00:13:51   number of seats on it [TS]

00:13:52   the government creates a machine that [TS]

00:13:53   will evaluate how valuable each person [TS]

00:13:55   is whether they're worthy of this thing [TS]

00:13:57   of it was to go in there [TS]

00:13:58   the professor's old old old man probably [TS]

00:14:01   die soon anyway brilliant brilliant [TS]

00:14:02   inventor pass your ticket delivery boy [TS]

00:14:06   nowhere no or no valuable skills past [TS]

00:14:08   here's your ticket [TS]

00:14:09   I like your pads his really major [TS]

00:14:13   accomplishments that are hugely [TS]

00:14:15   motivated by leela like him his love for [TS]

00:14:18   Leela like overcomes all these [TS]

00:14:20   ridiculous like I detriments that he has [TS]

00:14:24   he rearranges the stars for her he lets [TS]

00:14:28   her onto the spaceship there he he's in [TS]

00:14:31   he's in this in the sting he's going to [TS]

00:14:33   die basically because you know he throws [TS]

00:14:36   himself in front of this be [TS]

00:14:38   that's this while be that's coming at [TS]

00:14:40   them most of the things his when he's [TS]

00:14:43   really at its best [TS]

00:14:44   it's in the defense or in the wooing of [TS]

00:14:48   this counterpart character will hit the [TS]

00:14:50   things he's just so he's completely [TS]

00:14:53   selfless a lot of the time like he's [TS]

00:14:55   gets freaked out and does things but i [TS]

00:14:56   think it's it's a weird character in [TS]

00:14:58   that I'm that he's willing to always [TS]

00:14:59   write throw himself [TS]

00:15:00   whatever to do anything he gives up [TS]

00:15:02   there's an episode in which it's the one [TS]

00:15:04   with the spaceship gets a new [TS]

00:15:05   personality that with the sigourney [TS]

00:15:07   weaver's voice love and rocket fuel [TS]

00:15:09   lovin [TS]

00:15:10   love and I'm in little rock and there's [TS]

00:15:12   a bit of course we're recreating part of [TS]

00:15:14   the scene from 2001 and disabling how [TS]

00:15:17   and they're floating in this airless [TS]

00:15:19   space and space suits pushing out cans [TS]

00:15:21   of slur much are like memory core units [TS]

00:15:23   and popping them open and uh Lila's [TS]

00:15:26   oxygen tank was empty and fri without [TS]

00:15:28   telling your pops is chosen to her so [TS]

00:15:31   that he might die so she can let me just [TS]

00:15:33   and there's a thousand incidents like [TS]

00:15:34   that in the show but yeah I'm i think we [TS]

00:15:37   should talk favorite episodes before we [TS]

00:15:39   get too far along i think we've [TS]

00:15:40   introduced some of the basic concepts [TS]

00:15:42   and characters of the show and John I [TS]

00:15:45   think we've pointed at you lease so i [TS]

00:15:47   think you should come up what's one of [TS]

00:15:49   your favorite episodes of this program [TS]

00:15:51   well you mentioned film or a second ago [TS]

00:15:54   and the main voice that he does is [TS]

00:15:57   Hermes Conrad who is the rasta [TS]

00:16:01   bureaucrat who sort of runs the office [TS]

00:16:04   and those all the paperwork and [TS]

00:16:05   everything and he's definitely one of my [TS]

00:16:07   favorite characters and there's an [TS]

00:16:09   episode called how hermes requisition to [TS]

00:16:12   his groove back and that you know the [TS]

00:16:17   the title the title alone is great [TS]

00:16:19   because it makes you think of the the [TS]

00:16:21   movie how stella got her groove back [TS]

00:16:23   but it's it's just this really fun [TS]

00:16:27   episode with you know him and he's so [TS]

00:16:31   excited about being a beer creditors you [TS]

00:16:33   know that the whole society so [TS]

00:16:34   bureaucratic and they have numbers and [TS]

00:16:36   you know you you get promoted your [TS]

00:16:38   number gets lower and and i just love [TS]

00:16:41   the beginning of the episode that they [TS]

00:16:43   have these you know pneumatic tubes and [TS]

00:16:46   he says I look it's a letter from the [TS]

00:16:49   central bureaucracy and it says [TS]

00:16:51   attention Hermes Conrad you're about to [TS]

00:16:53   receive a letter from the central [TS]

00:16:54   bureaucracy and then he gets the letter [TS]

00:16:56   from the central bureaucracy eh you know [TS]

00:16:58   it's just this whole thing and it's very [TS]

00:17:00   it's very Brazil like in the whole this [TS]

00:17:05   this whole thing comes together and I [TS]

00:17:08   you know fri has an affair with the [TS]

00:17:11   bureaucrat who comes to inspect the [TS]

00:17:13   office and then bender finds out so to [TS]

00:17:15   cover her tracks she removes benders [TS]

00:17:17   brain which is in his entire personality [TS]

00:17:19   fits on a three-and-a-half inch floppy [TS]

00:17:21   disk [TS]

00:17:22   and she puts it in the tube and it [TS]

00:17:24   disappears and they have to go find it [TS]

00:17:26   and it's just just this great thing [TS]

00:17:28   where he goes and he has to sort this [TS]

00:17:30   entire gigantic inbox master inbox pile [TS]

00:17:33   in four minutes and it turns into this [TS]

00:17:37   big song and dance routine he's doing [TS]

00:17:39   the scar number and there's lindo wing [TS]

00:17:41   and everything and it's just one of my [TS]

00:17:43   favorites and and the best part is I you [TS]

00:17:47   know near the end he finishes everything [TS]

00:17:48   and the the number one bureaucrat who's [TS]

00:17:51   number 1 point 0 something like yeah you [TS]

00:17:54   know you finished you did a great job [TS]

00:17:55   but you finish with two seconds to spare [TS]

00:17:58   and a good bureaucrat never finishes [TS]

00:18:00   anything early so I'm demoting you [TS]

00:18:02   something like that and it's just one of [TS]

00:18:04   what one of my favorite as hermes is [TS]

00:18:06   just such a great character and that's [TS]

00:18:08   that 16 in my mind I really haven't [TS]

00:18:11   explained vendor to listeners who are [TS]

00:18:13   not don't know the show and maybe you [TS]

00:18:16   should take a crack at what what is [TS]

00:18:17   bender who is bender bender is a robot [TS]

00:18:21   designed to bend girders he's like a [TS]

00:18:24   manufacturing or construction robot but [TS]

00:18:27   he in the very first episode he's going [TS]

00:18:30   to go commit suicide with I he tries to [TS]

00:18:35   get a double suicide and suicide [TS]

00:18:37   telephone booth it's a suicide booth [TS]

00:18:39   that shaped exactly like a telephone [TS]

00:18:40   booth and fries trying to place a call [TS]

00:18:42   so they are he's there to go commit [TS]

00:18:46   suicide and I he and fri wind-up sort of [TS]

00:18:50   intertwined and becoming good friends [TS]

00:18:52   because they decide not or fri sort of [TS]

00:18:56   help spender decide not to commit [TS]

00:18:58   suicide and and they later on a bender [TS]

00:19:06   ah electrocute is antenna on a broken [TS]

00:19:09   light bulb and his programming is all [TS]

00:19:12   change so he has a lot more free will [TS]

00:19:15   then the other robots and he cannot he [TS]

00:19:18   can be lazy and not be totally committed [TS]

00:19:22   to his programming [TS]

00:19:23   yeah he's the he's got a lot of the best [TS]

00:19:26   taglines the show like my shiny metal [TS]

00:19:28   ass [TS]

00:19:29   of course [TS]

00:19:30   smoke cigars alcohol is necessary to his [TS]

00:19:33   proper functioning naturally so Andy [TS]

00:19:35   tell me tell me sir what is one of your [TS]

00:19:38   favorite episodes of futurama I gotta go [TS]

00:19:40   back to something I mentioned during [TS]

00:19:41   winter that others episode you're [TS]

00:19:43   talking you're talking about we are [TS]

00:19:45   favorite nerdy TV shows [TS]

00:19:47   previously on being comfortable i love [TS]

00:19:49   the God fellows episode so much hit real [TS]

00:19:52   it really is one of my favorite episodes [TS]

00:19:55   of television [TS]

00:19:56   full stop what happens is that a bender [TS]

00:19:58   gets shot into space irretrievably but [TS]

00:20:02   he's leaving these leaving the [TS]

00:20:03   university's just completely stranded [TS]

00:20:05   and the the premises that there are like [TS]

00:20:09   microbes that like circling his body and [TS]

00:20:11   as has happened so often the show [TS]

00:20:14   features a vendor course gets to witness [TS]

00:20:17   the entire rise and fall of an entire [TS]

00:20:18   new civilization as these tiny tiny [TS]

00:20:21   microscopic beings go through evolution [TS]

00:20:23   on his chest plate and of course they're [TS]

00:20:26   worshipping Him as a god because he is [TS]

00:20:29   their entire planet and he has faced and [TS]

00:20:31   he can actually say okay now you're [TS]

00:20:32   gonna want to grow crops and been free [TS]

00:20:35   for how to bring me some beer and it and [TS]

00:20:38   as is going to happen they they become [TS]

00:20:42   into two different factions of society [TS]

00:20:44   disagreeing on how to please bender [TS]

00:20:46   bender because he's bored starts off by [TS]

00:20:49   being the God but also starts off by [TS]

00:20:52   being stopping the angry god saying all [TS]

00:20:54   well okay I guess I can see if you're [TS]

00:20:56   praying to me to save your kid okay i'll [TS]

00:20:58   try to save your kid how about if i hope [TS]

00:21:00   i get if i put more water here to give [TS]

00:21:03   you something to give you make your [TS]

00:21:04   crops flourish and of course you want [TS]

00:21:05   some flooding out the entire village [TS]

00:21:07   gets to see everybody died and there are [TS]

00:21:09   wars on his chest and he's trying to [TS]

00:21:11   stop and try to help things and finding [TS]

00:21:14   himself in these increasingly futile [TS]

00:21:15   situations and the Beast story [TS]

00:21:18   what a wonderful b-story fri showing the [TS]

00:21:20   sort of care for his friends that is a [TS]

00:21:22   that is a constant for his character he [TS]

00:21:25   knows that his friend is gamma rays you [TS]

00:21:26   must be out there somewhere so we [TS]

00:21:28   conduct this huge huge search to try to [TS]

00:21:31   find bender and get him back though but [TS]

00:21:33   at the end of bender story he's now it [TS]

00:21:36   is the entire civilization on his honors [TS]

00:21:38   on the robot or so has died out killed [TS]

00:21:41   each other [TS]

00:21:42   he's actually a lot sadder than you [TS]

00:21:43   imagined he would be given me such a [TS]

00:21:44   selfish individual and he winds up at [TS]

00:21:47   the end of the universe to this sort of [TS]

00:21:49   sentient cloud of whatever the fill in [TS]

00:21:53   the blank and the subtext is that this [TS]

00:21:56   could be this cloud is could actually be [TS]

00:21:59   the god of our universe [TS]

00:22:00   when do you see a show like this [TS]

00:22:02   actually any show period that tries to [TS]

00:22:05   tackle a spiritual topic without making [TS]

00:22:09   it endlessly dreary like touched by an [TS]

00:22:12   angel or any other intentionally [TS]

00:22:14   uplifting or spiritual or God oriented [TS]

00:22:17   show i love the early shows including [TS]

00:22:19   this one they have sometimes you know [TS]

00:22:20   there's there's always the A&B story [TS]

00:22:22   thing like that's a traditional sitcom [TS]

00:22:24   or short story on works a lot of [TS]

00:22:25   different kinds of the theatre and [TS]

00:22:27   television we've got a main stories the [TS]

00:22:29   a story that's kind of thing you're [TS]

00:22:30   supposed to be paying attention to them [TS]

00:22:32   often subsidiary characters have Abby [TS]

00:22:33   story if you're really lucky that could [TS]

00:22:35   be a sea story with even like less going [TS]

00:22:37   on and futurama sometimes that ad in [TS]

00:22:40   East or either episodes i can think of [TS]

00:22:42   where I'm you know also held Allah [TS]

00:22:45   subway into one of my favorite episodes [TS]

00:22:47   is the one in which frys all 300 big [TS]

00:22:50   boys is the one in which fri decides to [TS]

00:22:52   drink three hundred cups of coffee [TS]

00:22:54   there's a it's a play on george w bush's [TS]

00:22:57   rebate early this administration the [TS]

00:23:00   Nixon who is president of course in the [TS]

00:23:02   future mix-ins had had a jar he decides [TS]

00:23:06   to take a show windfall from one of the [TS]

00:23:10   inept captains of the dupe was that [TS]

00:23:14   Brannigan that branding a voice [TS]

00:23:15   originally intended to be voiced by phil [TS]

00:23:18   hartman we passed away but but still [TS]

00:23:20   very well for a comple done so Zapp [TS]

00:23:22   Brannigan defeat some space spiders and [TS]

00:23:24   take all their booty other gems [TS]

00:23:26   tapestries and so Nixon issues a [TS]

00:23:29   three-hundred-dollar of rebate to [TS]

00:23:31   everybody and prices i'm gonna buy three [TS]

00:23:33   cups of coffee and across the episode he [TS]

00:23:35   does it so in that episode I love this [TS]

00:23:37   because there's a romance going on [TS]

00:23:39   between kids at brannigans [TS]

00:23:41   second-in-command is long-suffering [TS]

00:23:43   amphibian the second-in-command and a [TS]

00:23:46   one and A me who's one of the [TS]

00:23:48   explore express employees who's the [TS]

00:23:51   daughter of the richest man think in the [TS]

00:23:53   galaxy owns most of Mars and they have a [TS]

00:23:56   romance brewing fries try to do [TS]

00:23:58   something for Leela there's a whale [TS]

00:24:00   involved everyone's got different things [TS]

00:24:02   going on bend the professor uses stem [TS]

00:24:06   cells to look young and falls in love [TS]

00:24:07   you've got i think four or five [TS]

00:24:09   different romance is going on you guys [TS]

00:24:11   enjoyed trying to figure out what the [TS]

00:24:12   secret of life is our happiness and at [TS]

00:24:15   one point hermes has bought his son [TS]

00:24:17   these you know [TS]

00:24:18   bamboo still boots and they get stuck on [TS]

00:24:20   these boots that take them running [TS]

00:24:22   through town and the whole thing is [TS]

00:24:24   crazy set of different plots and it [TS]

00:24:26   comes together at the end they're all in [TS]

00:24:28   one place at this reception where [TS]

00:24:30   they're showing off all the booty from [TS]

00:24:31   the space spiders that they've stolen [TS]

00:24:34   and Hermes comes in sets fire to the [TS]

00:24:36   tapestry lights on fire but the windfall [TS]

00:24:39   is destroyed everything is burned up [TS]

00:24:40   everyone's life is in danger and fri [TS]

00:24:42   drinks his 300th cup of coffee and i [TS]

00:24:45   think is one of the most beautiful [TS]

00:24:46   moments across all the series of the [TS]

00:24:48   show where this the haha music starts [TS]

00:24:51   and fri his consciousness expands and [TS]

00:24:54   time slows down any very competently and [TS]

00:24:57   serenely he looks out the window and [TS]

00:24:59   there's a hummingbird you can see it [TS]

00:25:00   swing and slowly flapping and he takes [TS]

00:25:03   everybody out of the fire take small [TS]

00:25:06   outside they have no idea what happened [TS]

00:25:08   but I mean I I really think I don't know [TS]

00:25:10   if there was a G and H and I plot in [TS]

00:25:12   that and they pulled it together it was [TS]

00:25:14   hilarious and it was beautiful and I [TS]

00:25:17   think it's something that maybe you need [TS]

00:25:20   the the lack of limitations animation to [TS]

00:25:23   pull that off could you do that in and a [TS]

00:25:26   series in which you had actual physical [TS]

00:25:28   factors where you wouldn't this would be [TS]

00:25:31   enough time to make everything happen so [TS]

00:25:32   perfectly [TS]

00:25:33   it is interesting you mentioned that [TS]

00:25:35   episode was based off of [TS]

00:25:38   ah the bush rebate I I hadn't really [TS]

00:25:41   thought about that I find I've been [TS]

00:25:43   watching these so much later and I was [TS]

00:25:47   like nine when the show started [TS]

00:25:50   so what are you 14 known [TS]

00:25:53   Dean is a young yeah you're making us [TS]

00:25:56   all feel really able to on so yeah I [TS]

00:26:00   guess we never really i don't know what [TS]

00:26:02   it's never come up before but I'm no [TS]

00:26:05   one's rs200 that is so dependent is [TS]

00:26:08   podcast hello [TS]

00:26:09   a gentleman never asks a lady never [TS]

00:26:10   tells though I i I've actually been [TS]

00:26:13   kinda disappointed and then the new ones [TS]

00:26:15   because they rely I mean I'm so I was [TS]

00:26:17   going to mention this when you were [TS]

00:26:18   talking about God fellows on where [TS]

00:26:21   they're making this really beautiful [TS]

00:26:22   poignant I point there and it's and it's [TS]

00:26:25   relevant to a lot of different things [TS]

00:26:27   today and but it's not really about any [TS]

00:26:29   particular on any particular instance or [TS]

00:26:33   any particular thing in present day and [TS]

00:26:37   I feel like the new episodes really very [TS]

00:26:39   heavily rely on current things going on [TS]

00:26:45   like yo wila the davinci code [TS]

00:26:47   proposition infinity proposition [TS]

00:26:50   infinity is a good right that mean [TS]

00:26:51   that's that play on the California [TS]

00:26:52   Proposition about legalizing or banning [TS]

00:26:56   or in validating a same-sex marriage [TS]

00:26:59   right they made that relatively quickly [TS]

00:27:01   after proposition 8 right question [TS]

00:27:03   finity being a outside [TS]

00:27:05   that's a joke with the you know they [TS]

00:27:06   don't shy from was asking David about [TS]

00:27:08   this when i did the interview and said [TS]

00:27:11   you know you could they seem to actually [TS]

00:27:13   willing to address and engage political [TS]

00:27:15   controversy because like all good [TS]

00:27:17   parodies it's through the lens of [TS]

00:27:18   something that's so ridiculous they can [TS]

00:27:20   get away with it where maybe hitting it [TS]

00:27:22   directly i would be seen as much too [TS]

00:27:24   controversial for you know comedy [TS]

00:27:26   programming or something besides like a [TS]

00:27:28   late night stand-up comics right the [TS]

00:27:33   early episodes that that approach these [TS]

00:27:35   kinds of issues like a big piece of [TS]

00:27:37   garbage where a a giant ball of garbage [TS]

00:27:41   that at some point shortly i think it's [TS]

00:27:44   like 2,000 I don't like the 2200 or [TS]

00:27:47   something like that they shot all the [TS]

00:27:49   garbage from New York into space and now [TS]

00:27:52   in the year 3000 it's coming back and [TS]

00:27:55   it's going to crush it's going to crush [TS]

00:27:57   the city it crushed the world they're [TS]

00:27:59   approaching that issue in in this [TS]

00:28:02   ah very broad sense and you know what is [TS]

00:28:05   what is it going to be like in the in so [TS]

00:28:06   far in [TS]

00:28:07   future and I think that proposition [TS]

00:28:10   infinity is kind of a little too close [TS]

00:28:13   to that and it's a little too close to [TS]

00:28:15   its own issue and I I clockwork orange [TS]

00:28:18   origin to where they're having these [TS]

00:28:21   issues where it's about robots but as [TS]

00:28:24   you know a thousand years in the future [TS]

00:28:25   maybe they should have even gotten [TS]

00:28:27   further beyond that at this point you [TS]

00:28:29   know robots have been around for quite a [TS]

00:28:31   while and they might be able to move [TS]

00:28:33   beyond it somehow and have some sort of [TS]

00:28:35   even bigger issue [TS]

00:28:36   yes I'm of age as well too although it's [TS]

00:28:38   it's sort of hilarious a current affairs [TS]

00:28:40   are realized you know you look at the [TS]

00:28:42   some of the most common guest actors on [TS]

00:28:44   the guest voices of the show include al [TS]

00:28:47   gore the runner sure that's the case not [TS]

00:28:50   his one of his children was it was an [TS]

00:28:53   assistant on the show I know if she [TS]

00:28:54   still is for a period of time and that [TS]

00:28:56   certainly helped but I'm he's you know [TS]

00:28:58   he likes they did a cartoon bit for his [TS]

00:29:02   inconvenient truth there's a cartoon [TS]

00:29:04   bumper that they did for it but he's [TS]

00:29:06   always on you know he's always on [TS]

00:29:07   talking about being the Emperor of Mars [TS]

00:29:10   and global warming inventing the [TS]

00:29:13   internet and it makes fun of himself [TS]

00:29:14   pretty tremendously on the show and it [TS]

00:29:15   says in some fairly ki episode so there [TS]

00:29:18   is a there's a tendency to have a you [TS]

00:29:20   know just like having algo around as a [TS]

00:29:22   guest voice to have a sense of [TS]

00:29:24   contemporary politics there's another [TS]

00:29:27   issue the show I think that I'm it [TS]

00:29:29   brings people back again and again as [TS]

00:29:31   you know we like individual episodes [TS]

00:29:32   there's ones will does we call out i [TS]

00:29:34   think there's a complexity to the show [TS]

00:29:36   that the detail attention they take 22 [TS]

00:29:40   at most times I was remembering how to [TS]

00:29:42   look this up because I remember that [TS]

00:29:43   from the very first episode they design [TS]

00:29:45   multiple languages to be using the show [TS]

00:29:47   and one is a simple substitution cipher [TS]

00:29:51   so it's just every letter in Latin is [TS]

00:29:53   substitute with the lab the Latin [TS]

00:29:55   alphabet is substituted with a symbol [TS]

00:29:57   but there is also an alphabet that I [TS]

00:29:59   think they waited for people i remember [TS]

00:30:00   reading a david cone back years ago [TS]

00:30:03   talking about this they put it in there [TS]

00:30:04   and they figured that people would [TS]

00:30:05   freeze frame their VCRs at the time and [TS]

00:30:09   then later they're dvrs and dvds and [TS]

00:30:12   sort out how to decode this [TS]

00:30:14   like an alphabet if I it's a wikipedia [TS]

00:30:17   says it's a modular edition code with [TS]

00:30:19   the next letter is given by the [TS]

00:30:20   summation of all previous letters plus [TS]

00:30:22   the current letter but i believe it also [TS]

00:30:23   has code inside it so you can't just [TS]

00:30:25   it's not just substitution and they also [TS]

00:30:29   use other languages and there's an [TS]

00:30:30   episode in which they wander in to a [TS]

00:30:33   robot mitzvah and it's the in Hebrew it [TS]

00:30:36   says today I am a robot of course in a [TS]

00:30:38   manner because why wouldn't it be and [TS]

00:30:40   why they're hosting the robots and spin [TS]

00:30:42   them around but there are other details [TS]

00:30:43   you'll notice when you watch the show [TS]

00:30:45   you you say oh wow they're really paying [TS]

00:30:48   attention to this and making this [TS]

00:30:50   universe and making a consistent yeah [TS]

00:30:52   like when they laid that that episode in [TS]

00:30:55   which there's a body swap machine in [TS]

00:30:57   which you can spot bodies with somebody [TS]

00:31:00   else but only if that person had never [TS]

00:31:03   been body swapped before and so hot [TS]

00:31:07   hijinks ensue as well as the crew went [TS]

00:31:10   up like trick each other because they [TS]

00:31:11   want to do stuff and treat each other [TS]

00:31:12   again too [TS]

00:31:13   I don't want to i want to be a better [TS]

00:31:15   response let me be the one of the guys [TS]

00:31:16   body and so the solution to it of course [TS]

00:31:19   professor figures out a mathematical [TS]

00:31:22   equation to determine how many bodies [TS]

00:31:25   would how many swaps would it take to in [TS]

00:31:27   to put everybody back where they belong [TS]

00:31:29   involving fewer than X number of people [TS]

00:31:32   who've never been spot before and [TS]

00:31:34   there's the the formula that the [TS]

00:31:36   calculation and the proof is on screen [TS]

00:31:39   for maybe all of like a second and a [TS]

00:31:41   half but it turns out that yes that is [TS]

00:31:43   actually absolutely correct because one [TS]

00:31:45   of the writers on that show has a [TS]

00:31:47   doctorate mathematics we actually proved [TS]

00:31:49   this theorem to the satisfaction of [TS]

00:31:51   everybody in the writers room because [TS]

00:31:54   this is the sort of show where someone [TS]

00:31:55   as good as AI excuse me [TS]

00:31:57   clearly you're doing arrest of some [TS]

00:31:59   algorithm there when the other [TS]

00:32:01   scientists and span space nuts in the [TS]

00:32:03   and David Cone was getting doing a PhD [TS]

00:32:07   in mathematics when he got tapped for [TS]

00:32:09   the simpsons and Anna you know leave [TS]

00:32:10   akadema there was a first season episode [TS]

00:32:12   in which of fries gets a little bit [TS]

00:32:15   homesick and when he finds out that you [TS]

00:32:17   can actually take tourist flights to the [TS]

00:32:18   moon [TS]

00:32:19   so this is great i could actually be [TS]

00:32:21   where like Apollo 11 landed and of [TS]

00:32:23   course you land there finally they go [TS]

00:32:25   there and it turns out to be more like [TS]

00:32:26   up the [TS]

00:32:26   like a disney world theme park you're on [TS]

00:32:29   the moon but it's like a disney world [TS]

00:32:30   version of the Moon and they wind up [TS]

00:32:32   just sort of like breaking out of the [TS]

00:32:33   the place actually go to the lunar [TS]

00:32:35   surface and they actually come upon the [TS]

00:32:38   Apollo 11 landing site and I i remember [TS]

00:32:41   reading a story about this that in the [TS]

00:32:43   in the episode you actually see the the [TS]

00:32:46   the descent stage and the ascent stage [TS]

00:32:49   both together on the on the surface of [TS]

00:32:52   the Moon and of course any nerd would [TS]

00:32:53   know that actually it's only the descent [TS]

00:32:55   states that would be bad [TS]

00:32:56   that was left there really get leaked [TS]

00:32:58   the crew went back into the ascent stage [TS]

00:33:00   within took off and rica and redock with [TS]

00:33:02   the command module and so I remember [TS]

00:33:05   reading that there's actually a [TS]

00:33:06   last-minute addition was like a plaque [TS]

00:33:08   that they think they have time to [TS]

00:33:10   reanimate the entire thing be enough [TS]

00:33:11   time to put in like a little plaque on [TS]

00:33:13   the things that a sense stage were [TS]

00:33:15   restored hereby by bike bike by a [TS]

00:33:19   unified by generous grant from the [TS]

00:33:20   nitpickers of America [TS]

00:33:23   yeah I think I mean there's the other [TS]

00:33:25   running element of the show is this the [TS]

00:33:27   number of them of things that are so [TS]

00:33:28   unpleasant beyond the pale that you're [TS]

00:33:30   surprised you'd ever see them on [TS]

00:33:31   television and they try to make them [TS]

00:33:33   funny like bender is so incredibly [TS]

00:33:35   amoral I think someone of the DVD [TS]

00:33:37   commentaries that when they shot the [TS]

00:33:39   episode well as other robots which is [TS]

00:33:42   one of the great things in Helena those [TS]

00:33:44   are the robots which was in this and 9th [TS]

00:33:46   episode was the first season that's [TS]

00:33:48   right introduces a robot devil is a [TS]

00:33:50   terrific character occurs but later the [TS]

00:33:53   robot devil spins wheel and a fourth [TS]

00:33:55   season has a list of every robot on the [TS]

00:33:58   show and you realize there are hundreds [TS]

00:34:00   of thought out characters hundred [TS]

00:34:02   thought-out robots not to mention human [TS]

00:34:04   characters and aliens who appear but the [TS]

00:34:07   that I think it was hellas other robots [TS]

00:34:09   because there's a bit in it where Leela [TS]

00:34:12   and fry get tired of bender his wrist [TS]

00:34:14   experienced a religious conversion has [TS]

00:34:15   now become incredibly straight-laced in [TS]

00:34:17   dollars drinking mineral oil instead of [TS]

00:34:19   alcohol experience and they sort of miss [TS]

00:34:21   his evening pouring sand and insanity is [TS]

00:34:26   a moral behavior so they [TS]

00:34:28   get them off the straight and narrow and [TS]

00:34:30   I think it's from the DVD commentary [TS]

00:34:32   where they mentioned yeah we had a staff [TS]

00:34:34   member who wouldn't work on this show [TS]

00:34:36   she had moral objections to it she just [TS]

00:34:39   found it you know too vile and they had [TS]

00:34:41   to essentially supported her in that [TS]

00:34:43   decision but I mean can you think of [TS]

00:34:45   that fellow's it's like that I'm the [TS]

00:34:47   number of things that are just like i [TS]

00:34:48   like the robot or uh Santa Claus the [TS]

00:34:51   evil Santa Claus the future suicide [TS]

00:34:54   booth what do you think about the fact [TS]

00:34:57   that they push the envelope on kind of [TS]

00:34:59   acceptable things by wrapping them in [TS]

00:35:01   this way [TS]

00:35:01   yeah there's a just last week with was [TS]

00:35:03   one of the new season episodes in which [TS]

00:35:05   every time friday associate take my hand [TS]

00:35:09   Leland some disaster happens and [TS]

00:35:12   farewell to her as a little bit out [TS]

00:35:13   there the last the last season she [TS]

00:35:14   rescuing her off of a doomed planet to [TS]

00:35:18   take my hand Leela and takes the hand [TS]

00:35:20   and then rise up ripping off her arm of [TS]

00:35:22   the socket and then like 10 seconds [TS]

00:35:24   later his own arm gets ripped off by the [TS]

00:35:26   socket as well last seen the two ripped [TS]

00:35:29   up arms swirly in space with pretty [TS]

00:35:31   music playing and that we do we want to [TS]

00:35:33   switch is lovely [TS]

00:35:34   exactly sweet lovely but yeah well let's [TS]

00:35:36   talk about you really should talk about [TS]

00:35:37   the new season is I'm you know one of [TS]

00:35:39   the things David said interview so [TS]

00:35:41   they're going to i think there's just [TS]

00:35:42   asked acknowledgement and we look so we [TS]

00:35:43   could talk about this bit is I thought [TS]

00:35:45   season I think it's number six the 26 [TS]

00:35:48   episodes that were aired in 2010-2011 I [TS]

00:35:51   felt they were weak compared to the [TS]

00:35:53   first for broadcast seasons I I felt [TS]

00:35:56   like I didn't feel that richness of [TS]

00:35:58   multiple plot elements the interval i [TS]

00:36:00   thought some of them with a very thin [TS]

00:36:01   idea and extended and some I quite like [TS]

00:36:04   there was something i thought were [TS]

00:36:05   terrific like the creationism [TS]

00:36:06   evolutionism a revolution parody that [TS]

00:36:10   made a sort of rethink aspects of it [TS]

00:36:12   when presented that light but do you [TS]

00:36:13   think that as anyone think that that was [TS]

00:36:15   the case of the first or do you think [TS]

00:36:17   know the last two in effective season [TS]

00:36:19   the 2010-2011 episodes were as strong as [TS]

00:36:22   the first four I think that it's [TS]

00:36:25   interesting because like you're looking [TS]

00:36:26   at this show about a guy who's frozen in [TS]

00:36:29   time for a thousand years and then he [TS]

00:36:32   comes back to life and then the show is [TS]

00:36:35   sort of stopped and comes back to life [TS]

00:36:38   and [TS]

00:36:39   when fried comes back to life it's like [TS]

00:36:41   this oh my god everything is you know [TS]

00:36:43   look at all these wonderful things out [TS]

00:36:45   here and and I have to take full [TS]

00:36:47   advantage of it and in the new seasons [TS]

00:36:51   I feel like they're they they're also [TS]

00:36:53   trying to take full advantage of their [TS]

00:36:55   there we given time I guess and trying [TS]

00:36:58   to like create almost cram as much in [TS]

00:37:01   there as possible i'm like it's much [TS]

00:37:03   faster paced they're bringing back like [TS]

00:37:06   lots and lots of characters in for even [TS]

00:37:09   like small parts like Zapp Brannigan [TS]

00:37:12   appears for like a minute or two in the [TS]

00:37:14   latest episode here where he's on he's [TS]

00:37:17   piloting this this spaceship and he's [TS]

00:37:19   just kind of thrown into it all mouse [TS]

00:37:21   and they they're forcing these jokes and [TS]

00:37:25   making like I don't you know just kind [TS]

00:37:27   of pushing things a little too far and [TS]

00:37:30   maybe you know if they relaxed a little [TS]

00:37:32   bit they kind of be able to i get back [TS]

00:37:35   to where they were back into their [TS]

00:37:37   stride a little bit ok what do you think [TS]

00:37:39   John you would you be as big a fan of [TS]

00:37:41   the earlier later once you have a funny [TS]

00:37:43   and substantial differences between them [TS]

00:37:46   yet the you know the those first four [TS]

00:37:48   five seasons whatever you want to call [TS]

00:37:50   them [TS]

00:37:50   I'm had a have a different feel to them [TS]

00:37:54   they felt a little bit richer and and in [TS]

00:37:56   some ways moments there was a lot of [TS]

00:38:00   sweetness to some of them like you know [TS]

00:38:03   we talked about that devil's hands are [TS]

00:38:05   idle playthings and the sting and then [TS]

00:38:06   one of the other ones like the look of [TS]

00:38:08   the frying fish which is about the [TS]

00:38:10   history of you know fri thinking that [TS]

00:38:12   his brother stole his identity and in [TS]

00:38:14   all things he wanted to do and you get [TS]

00:38:16   these flashbacks and it's it was you [TS]

00:38:18   know some really sweet stuff where you [TS]

00:38:20   see like the emotion around around fri [TS]

00:38:24   and that stuff seems like it's either [TS]

00:38:28   missing or forced in the in that last [TS]

00:38:31   season and the first to that that aired [TS]

00:38:34   last week I thought the first one where [TS]

00:38:36   bender has has a kid was pretty strong [TS]

00:38:41   the bots and the bees and then the one [TS]

00:38:43   after that that the one with the arms [TS]

00:38:45   totally off into space that what kind of [TS]

00:38:47   left me cold I just never really felt [TS]

00:38:49   like you got going [TS]

00:38:50   so it feels more like these [TS]

00:38:52   the previous season then starting with [TS]

00:38:55   this that they're kind of hit or miss [TS]

00:38:56   and that the other ones maybe it's a [TS]

00:38:59   nostalgia thing you know because they [TS]

00:39:00   were so long ago already those other [TS]

00:39:02   ones seem like classic and they seem [TS]

00:39:04   like there's so much richness and then [TS]

00:39:06   we can go back and watch them over and [TS]

00:39:07   over again whereas those that last batch [TS]

00:39:10   they really don't they don't feel quite [TS]

00:39:13   as I mean there's still fun to watch but [TS]

00:39:14   they don't feel like they're quite the [TS]

00:39:15   same its kind of intermittent or you get [TS]

00:39:17   some episodes that are good and some [TS]

00:39:19   that are really not very memorable and I [TS]

00:39:21   felt like the older ones you know [TS]

00:39:24   they're there wasn't a lot of throwaway [TS]

00:39:25   it's probably you know you probably have [TS]

00:39:27   lots of really good ideas at the [TS]

00:39:28   beginning and lots of stuff to put in [TS]

00:39:30   and you get to a point where where your [TS]

00:39:33   maybe forcing a little bit [TS]

00:39:35   well you know it felt like I agree with [TS]

00:39:36   you that I thought there was that thing [TS]

00:39:38   the saying at the outset that I think [TS]

00:39:40   this is has the most heart of any almost [TS]

00:39:43   any show I mean you see this in some [TS]

00:39:45   long-running sitcoms we're even if the [TS]

00:39:48   show is sort of farcical or nonsensical [TS]

00:39:49   they figure out a way to have a [TS]

00:39:51   relationship or a kind of sensibility [TS]

00:39:54   and friendship at the middle that makes [TS]

00:39:56   it work and you know their shows like [TS]

00:39:58   mash that are in other words ridiculous [TS]

00:40:00   parts but it really was kind of a strong [TS]

00:40:02   Center show and it's hard to think of an [TS]

00:40:05   animated show that that could be [TS]

00:40:06   anywhere near the silicates are a few [TS]

00:40:08   that have that much are and you do the [TS]

00:40:10   relationship like no one of another of [TS]

00:40:12   my favorite episodes would be when I [TS]

00:40:14   think i mentioned before is the devil's [TS]

00:40:17   hands are idle playthings and in that [TS]

00:40:19   that was a thought that might be the [TS]

00:40:21   last episode as with so many times [TS]

00:40:24   David Cohen said that Ken Keeler is one [TS]

00:40:25   of the main writers for sho kin is [TS]

00:40:28   written all of the finale episodes of [TS]

00:40:29   futurama is up to four now [TS]

00:40:32   corporate last episodes of the show and [TS]

00:40:35   the devil's hands are idle playthings i [TS]

00:40:36   think was partially intended to be the [TS]

00:40:39   end of the broadcast run and there's [TS]

00:40:41   this beautiful thing where you know even [TS]

00:40:43   though it's sort of you know heat fries [TS]

00:40:45   stupid and the whole thing is ridiculous [TS]

00:40:47   is that you know he has this great love [TS]

00:40:49   for Leela she doesn't always believed [TS]

00:40:51   interested herself and she's not sure [TS]

00:40:54   she's in love with him partly because [TS]

00:40:55   he's an idiot that comes up again and [TS]

00:40:56   again but probably because she's not [TS]

00:40:58   sure she trusts the way the intensity of [TS]

00:41:00   the sincerity realism that he [TS]

00:41:02   as per business goes on over seasons and [TS]

00:41:04   in that episode you know II he it's a [TS]

00:41:07   great series of oh Henry swaps [TS]

00:41:09   essentially one of my favorite things [TS]

00:41:11   about it is that they actually define [TS]

00:41:13   over and over again people call things [TS]

00:41:15   ironic which are not and keep getting [TS]

00:41:17   called out that's not ironic is ironic [TS]

00:41:19   then finally when the final scenes [TS]

00:41:21   something ironic actually happens and [TS]

00:41:23   vendor speeds a dictionary definition [TS]

00:41:25   says now that's ironic that they should [TS]

00:41:28   teach in english classes but but there [TS]

00:41:30   is this that thing there's a love story [TS]

00:41:32   that's very strong and sort of sustained [TS]

00:41:34   and then later episodes it just seems to [TS]

00:41:36   be kind of an element fries always [TS]

00:41:37   pursuing Leela but whatever i'm david [TS]

00:41:40   said in an interview again that they [TS]

00:41:42   were intending I mean I think there's [TS]

00:41:44   some awareness of this on the show staff [TS]

00:41:46   because he said this season is going to [TS]

00:41:48   be more like the early seasons we're [TS]

00:41:50   gonna sort of go back and they'll be a [TS]

00:41:52   long arc over 2012 and 2013 which is [TS]

00:41:57   centered around kind of finally [TS]

00:41:58   resolving the leela fri relationship and [TS]

00:42:01   I don't know how that will materialize [TS]

00:42:02   we've got 24 more episodes to work with [TS]

00:42:05   that on [TS]

00:42:05   i am going to happen will prosecute that [TS]

00:42:07   22 strongly only because there's so many [TS]

00:42:12   shows I can't get into because there are [TS]

00:42:15   deep profound season-long arcsight I [TS]

00:42:18   can't get into Game of Thrones I can't [TS]

00:42:20   get into so many of the shows because i [TS]

00:42:22   feel as though if I start now I've got a [TS]

00:42:25   lot of work ahead of me get caught up [TS]

00:42:26   and then I'm sort of obligated to watch [TS]

00:42:28   the rest of them I do like the fact that [TS]

00:42:30   futurama exist you can dip into almost [TS]

00:42:31   any individual episode and pretty much [TS]

00:42:33   get it it's true they have I mean they [TS]

00:42:35   have some mythology but not the same [TS]

00:42:37   kind of thing as any other show there's [TS]

00:42:38   not really too much of an arc you know a [TS]

00:42:40   season-long are queer fri discovers you [TS]

00:42:42   know the order of human beings were all [TS]

00:42:44   invented another planet but but there [TS]

00:42:46   you know there are there are [TS]

00:42:47   consistencies others and you know i was [TS]

00:42:49   looking through wikipedia 4 episode [TS]

00:42:51   descriptions they talk about [TS]

00:42:52   non-canonical episode was sort of [TS]

00:42:54   cracked me up because you know what is [TS]

00:42:56   canonical and a cartoon universe in [TS]

00:42:58   which anything can change but I mean [TS]

00:43:00   there are things like nibbler the Lila's [TS]

00:43:02   little istock Pat turning out to be one [TS]

00:43:05   of the Masters of the Universe very much [TS]

00:43:07   like the Masters on a [TS]

00:43:09   ah no ah in the Green Lantern's the [TS]

00:43:11   people the blue man who control the the [TS]

00:43:15   safety of the university's little [TS]

00:43:16   incredibly adorable creatures are in [TS]

00:43:18   fact the ones who who make everything [TS]

00:43:21   work in that and keep the universal [TS]

00:43:23   falling apart from john i know your [TS]

00:43:26   music made and what do you think about [TS]

00:43:27   the music on the show I I've always [TS]

00:43:29   loved it to UW noticed is that something [TS]

00:43:32   that that strikes you how they use music [TS]

00:43:36   as an element across the seasons [TS]

00:43:38   yeah I i mean III like yeah especially [TS]

00:43:42   an animated shows the music and the sort [TS]

00:43:46   of musical numbers a lot of them go over [TS]

00:43:47   the top like you know something like the [TS]

00:43:49   Simpsons family Guy do a good job with [TS]

00:43:52   it but in vitro my eye I really do like [TS]

00:43:56   it you know i mention that first episode [TS]

00:43:57   with the with with Hermes doing his [TS]

00:44:01   little little scar song and it's funny [TS]

00:44:05   that you mention and now I'm drawing a [TS]

00:44:07   blank to think of other musical examples [TS]

00:44:10   from the show that that I can actually [TS]

00:44:12   think of any right now but you but it is [TS]

00:44:14   it does seem like such a big part of the [TS]

00:44:16   of the show and the devil's hands are [TS]

00:44:18   idle playthings is one of the ones i [TS]

00:44:20   think of the most because that there was [TS]

00:44:22   almost a musical they had songs every [TS]

00:44:23   few minutes culminating with with price [TS]

00:44:27   opera his hollow opera for Leela right [TS]

00:44:31   he learns to play the the holophone or I [TS]

00:44:34   think it's not always like a recorder [TS]

00:44:35   basically but it projects Holograms and [TS]

00:44:38   he could only do it when he has the [TS]

00:44:40   devil's hands [TS]

00:44:42   yeah that's right because he needs he [TS]

00:44:43   has stupid fingers apparently no [TS]

00:44:46   surprise [TS]

00:44:47   so you know I think we've cycled through [TS]

00:44:50   quite a bit about the show what what if [TS]

00:44:52   we will be missed in this program we [TS]

00:44:54   were watching and obviously all of us at [TS]

00:44:56   some extent for I don't know how many [TS]

00:44:59   episodes of shows had no hundred and [TS]

00:45:01   twenty or something we're getting up [TS]

00:45:02   there between those seasons and you know [TS]

00:45:05   it's something that I look forward to i [TS]

00:45:06   try to watch HD episode comes out what [TS]

00:45:09   would still strikes interview about you [TS]

00:45:11   know why we're staying well we stick [TS]

00:45:13   with the show even though it's doesn't [TS]

00:45:14   have you know our episode of a series [TS]

00:45:16   long plots and things like that what [TS]

00:45:18   brings us back to watch this again and [TS]

00:45:20   again I mean it touches on so many [TS]

00:45:21   different [TS]

00:45:22   ah different things that references [TS]

00:45:24   startrack references [TS]

00:45:26   ah the twilight zone it's it and it's [TS]

00:45:29   and it's these deep references that you [TS]

00:45:31   can't you kind of need to know what's [TS]

00:45:34   going on where they're referencing very [TS]

00:45:37   specific twilight zone episodes or [TS]

00:45:39   something like that and it touches these [TS]

00:45:41   little things where like yeah I've spent [TS]

00:45:45   all this time going back and and looking [TS]

00:45:47   at these different shows and and and [TS]

00:45:49   trying to find out more about specific [TS]

00:45:51   things and you see it all reflected in [TS]

00:45:57   the show where you know just because you [TS]

00:46:01   understand these other these other [TS]

00:46:02   things and it's kind of like oh you know [TS]

00:46:04   they get it to they they are also on the [TS]

00:46:08   same wavelength and they've also spent [TS]

00:46:10   this time finding out about these [TS]

00:46:12   different weird little corners of things [TS]

00:46:14   I and appreciating them i think it's [TS]

00:46:18   rich with illusion right as if you're if [TS]

00:46:20   you're a geek [TS]

00:46:21   you can watch the show and everything [TS]

00:46:22   seems to be no there's a reference to [TS]

00:46:24   omega man there's Logan's Run there's [TS]

00:46:27   that episode there's to serve man and [TS]

00:46:30   then they even have the parody the show [TS]

00:46:31   with it and he was the name of the [TS]

00:46:33   shower now you'll notice the is it the [TS]

00:46:35   the closing door the parody of twilight [TS]

00:46:37   zone the scary Dory necessary to write [TS]

00:46:41   like imagine the world in which there's [TS]

00:46:43   a guy no week has been my balls you [TS]

00:46:45   can't read the thing and you know it's [TS]

00:46:47   just everything is everything is like [TS]

00:46:49   that yeah I'm so Andy interrupted you [TS]

00:46:50   before I'm sorry no I was just going to [TS]

00:46:52   say that I think that it's the reason [TS]

00:46:54   why keep watching us because they keep [TS]

00:46:56   that level quality way way way way up [TS]

00:46:59   they keep finding little nooks and [TS]

00:47:00   crannies wish to put extra little jokes [TS]

00:47:02   and they're not just clever witty [TS]

00:47:05   sayings but also if there's a corner of [TS]

00:47:07   the frame in which they can put in a [TS]

00:47:09   keychain that's a souvenir keychain but [TS]

00:47:13   Lela has from her trip to the moon [TS]

00:47:14   saying i'm with stupid on the moon and [TS]

00:47:17   you do have to sort of like we're [TS]

00:47:19   watching on TV is it wait whether what I [TS]

00:47:21   just missed your scroll back in your DVR [TS]

00:47:23   in order to get the joke it's it's not [TS]

00:47:26   all about just catch phrases and [TS]

00:47:27   pop-culture references and it also just [TS]

00:47:30   comes down to the fact [TS]

00:47:31   that they have well-defined characters [TS]

00:47:34   each one in that cast and they have [TS]

00:47:38   never decided to weaken that that sort [TS]

00:47:41   of formula never weekend that sauce they [TS]

00:47:45   so this is true i think of almost every [TS]

00:47:47   single said comments out there [TS]

00:47:49   eventually the producers and the writers [TS]

00:47:52   they get just sort of into a punch the [TS]

00:47:54   clock sort of mechanism where they no [TS]

00:47:57   longer understand why this line is [TS]

00:48:00   appropriate for this character but this [TS]

00:48:01   other character would never say it [TS]

00:48:03   they don't understand what the relations [TS]

00:48:04   are between these characters they're all [TS]

00:48:06   just about by the final episode by the [TS]

00:48:08   final season of seinfeld and friends [TS]

00:48:10   these are a cast these are five [TS]

00:48:13   characters who get together every once [TS]

00:48:15   in a while who don't like each other but [TS]

00:48:17   they only get it to the only get [TS]

00:48:18   together so they can they can like [TS]

00:48:20   launches fingers at each other and yeah [TS]

00:48:22   you don't understand why they keep doing [TS]

00:48:24   this why they keep meeting at a coffee [TS]

00:48:26   shop every single day just to insult [TS]

00:48:28   each other about someone are really some [TS]

00:48:30   profoundly painful moments from their [TS]

00:48:32   lives you know what why do I keep coming [TS]

00:48:35   here publicizes comment about the show [TS]

00:48:37   that way before I can't watch friends [TS]

00:48:39   anymore it so it's absolutely true but [TS]

00:48:41   with futurama not not every character is [TS]

00:48:44   designed to have designed to be this [TS]

00:48:45   really deep involved character but it is [TS]

00:48:48   always about fri who profoundly cares [TS]

00:48:51   about his friends [TS]

00:48:52   Leela who's responsible but it's also [TS]

00:48:54   kinda kinda weird herself [TS]

00:48:55   hermes who's the bureaucrat who can [TS]

00:48:57   figure out an analytical way to get [TS]

00:48:59   things done [TS]

00:49:00   the professor who was absolutely dotty [TS]

00:49:02   but creative and a fantastically mad [TS]

00:49:04   science way and then why not [TS]

00:49:06   Evan why not zoidberg that was a burger [TS]

00:49:09   mean arrived there I things I [TS]

00:49:11   environment last now things are at [TS]

00:49:13   everything is heading Zoidberg yeah i [TS]

00:49:15   mean it that significant that's a good [TS]

00:49:17   to stick the distinction why one of [TS]

00:49:20   things i hate's there's such a link to a [TS]

00:49:22   whole episode of why it's family guy [TS]

00:49:23   because at that hour talking everybody [TS]

00:49:26   trying to interrupt but one that one of [TS]

00:49:29   the running one running things on the [TS]

00:49:31   family guy is that everybody hates that [TS]

00:49:33   the daughter Meg and they don't give [TS]

00:49:34   nobody ever explains why they hate him [TS]

00:49:36   later but always just nothing but hatred [TS]

00:49:38   and incredibly caustic abuse order all [TS]

00:49:42   the time [TS]

00:49:42   Lloyd berg has that may [TS]

00:49:44   grow on futurama but somehow they write [TS]

00:49:47   it so cleverly they just feel like well [TS]

00:49:49   he's a kind of a stupid Lobster guy who [TS]

00:49:51   if you get your arm cut off one up so [TS]

00:49:53   your leg back on this place is kind of [TS]

00:49:55   stupid [TS]

00:49:56   he's always horrible smelly monster too [TS]

00:49:58   and he's it's always like yeah he says [TS]

00:50:02   he's a doctor but he doesn't understand [TS]

00:50:03   the human anatomy and he's but what kind [TS]

00:50:06   of girl are you your mouth [TS]

00:50:08   no your other mom yeah their first [TS]

00:50:10   appearance he's no he's trippin because [TS]

00:50:12   he's a sad sack and occasionally has his [TS]

00:50:15   moments of victory that's the thing is [TS]

00:50:17   occasionally he comes through and where [TS]

00:50:19   has no who's enjoyed bugs in charge now [TS]

00:50:21   but yeah that's the out i'll tell you [TS]

00:50:24   that the funny thing i think about [TS]

00:50:25   futurama is my wife is not a [TS]

00:50:27   science-fiction fan futurama is the only [TS]

00:50:29   science fiction that she tolerates she [TS]

00:50:32   loves the show we watched much of it [TS]

00:50:33   lately because we don't have actual [TS]

00:50:35   broadcast television anymore so we have [TS]

00:50:37   to go through you know buying itunes and [TS]

00:50:39   netflix and so forth to watch it more [TS]

00:50:41   but but it's it's a show i think the [TS]

00:50:43   characters like soy burger like the fact [TS]

00:50:45   that there's so much in the show that's [TS]

00:50:47   just you know they are the things that [TS]

00:50:49   are conventional but it doesn't have [TS]

00:50:51   that because doesn't take itself [TS]

00:50:53   seriously I think that's why she enjoys [TS]

00:50:55   it more so she doesn't necessarily get [TS]

00:50:57   the layers of science fiction illusion [TS]

00:50:59   because she didn't read sci-fi but she [TS]

00:51:00   the show's fun it's interesting and they [TS]

00:51:03   have characterization so it succeeds [TS]

00:51:05   there yet even though I you know I love [TS]

00:51:07   the major characters that some of the [TS]

00:51:08   minor characters i think or what makes [TS]

00:51:10   the show good because if you have if you [TS]

00:51:13   have you no more both alien newscaster [TS]

00:51:16   in there for a few seconds i'm talking [TS]

00:51:18   about about how the earth is doomed and [TS]

00:51:21   then you have his pepe sidekick you know [TS]

00:51:23   laughing it off the core you know [TS]

00:51:26   Calculon who is the robot soap opera [TS]

00:51:29   star you know people like that and then [TS]

00:51:32   of course you know you can't forget [TS]

00:51:33   lower from Omicron Persei 8 out like [TS]

00:51:36   those people you know they they can be [TS]

00:51:39   an episode for a few minutes and they [TS]

00:51:40   can kind of make they can make or break [TS]

00:51:42   it for me and you know i love bender [TS]

00:51:44   alone fry and Zoidberg but the little [TS]

00:51:47   people mix-ins head you know and like if [TS]

00:51:49   they go to the head museum and you know [TS]

00:51:51   that just the stuff they can do with all [TS]

00:51:53   the little side characters it it's what [TS]

00:51:56   can make or break [TS]

00:51:57   episode four me a lot of the time and [TS]

00:51:59   that's when keep it going as if you [TS]

00:52:01   throw in some of those it's it's like [TS]

00:52:03   any other animated show we have all [TS]

00:52:05   these little side characters and you [TS]

00:52:07   know they get their moment in the Sun [TS]

00:52:08   but that there's just such a weird [TS]

00:52:11   creepy and bizarre characters on here [TS]

00:52:13   because there are so many aliens and you [TS]

00:52:16   know with it being a thousand years in [TS]

00:52:17   the future you can pretty pretty much do [TS]

00:52:19   anything you want [TS]

00:52:20   I'm kind of like the fact that they [TS]

00:52:22   don't make any default choice in the [TS]

00:52:23   show it like nothing works the way that [TS]

00:52:26   it should now so we know when they like [TS]

00:52:28   the bungalow i love the bungalow that [TS]

00:52:30   suddenly they go to Mars it turns out [TS]

00:52:32   Mars and a half of Mars is a ranch owned [TS]

00:52:34   by anyone's family and is you know this [TS]

00:52:37   is the wrong place right that's really [TS]

00:52:39   what happened it's and of course so the [TS]

00:52:40   cattle people reading giant bugs sort of [TS]

00:52:42   ladybug like things that are marked like [TS]

00:52:44   cattle it's like nothing is certain [TS]

00:52:46   studies nothing is normal it's more like [TS]

00:52:48   they never take the easy choice of just [TS]

00:52:50   saying okay we're going to make it a [TS]

00:52:52   parking meter [TS]

00:52:52   this is gonna be a parking meter that [TS]

00:52:54   talks or there's the running gag that [TS]

00:52:55   nibbler when nibbler takes a number to [TS]

00:52:58   that he poops dark matter and that's [TS]

00:53:00   what they used to fuel the ship and one [TS]

00:53:02   of my favorite throwaway lines of as a [TS]

00:53:04   prize that walking nibbler he lands a [TS]

00:53:08   steamer and the police come to write [TS]

00:53:09   about for a citation they say pick that [TS]

00:53:11   up basis but it weighs as much as 200 [TS]

00:53:13   songs and this little little clever bits [TS]

00:53:16   like that you know you never just [TS]

00:53:18   nothing is ever quite what it seems the [TS]

00:53:20   robots have robots to help them out of [TS]

00:53:22   the greeting cards the greeting cards [TS]

00:53:23   have a chip in them that that mom of [TS]

00:53:26   moms robots can mom the evil mother [TS]

00:53:29   there she cannot activate a switch and [TS]

00:53:32   greeting cards along with all the other [TS]

00:53:33   robots on the planet must do her bidding [TS]

00:53:36   it's just that there's never was never a [TS]

00:53:38   default basic easy choice made in the [TS]

00:53:41   show maybe that's the theme of the show [TS]

00:53:42   they don't make the easy choices [TS]

00:53:44   well let's not forget the real reason we [TS]

00:53:46   all watch futurama hypnotoad rear [TS]

00:53:53   hypnotoad if the new I knew that was [TS]

00:53:57   coming it had to be said deed is under [TS]

00:54:00   his power boat is the greatest throwaway [TS]

00:54:03   character that didn't get thrown away of [TS]

00:54:05   all let's just let's just replay what [TS]

00:54:06   just happened here one person set up a [TS]

00:54:09   line the second person knew exactly what [TS]

00:54:12   he was talking about [TS]

00:54:13   bye-bye making a sound effect a [TS]

00:54:15   third-person recognize the sound effect [TS]

00:54:17   and I'm to hypnotize to speak [TS]

00:54:20   oh it was it's a great fit the best part [TS]

00:54:23   is on the notes of DVD extra one of the [TS]

00:54:25   early season dvds is everybody where [TS]

00:54:27   everyone loves hypnotoad and it's david [TS]

00:54:30   described as 22 minutes of show 45 [TS]

00:54:34   minutes of payoff it's just tiptoed [TS]

00:54:36   staring with some various dialogue and [TS]

00:54:38   so for that comes we have to watch the [TS]

00:54:39   whole thing only you can fast-forward [TS]

00:54:41   through you missed some of the dialogue [TS]

00:54:43   but the most popular show on television [TS]

00:54:45   everybody loves hypnotoad but that's not [TS]

00:54:48   all that's what's great about the show [TS]

00:54:49   is like they can throw in the thing [TS]

00:54:50   that's the most absurd thing in the [TS]

00:54:51   world that you have these little [TS]

00:54:52   romantic situations it it doesn't isn't [TS]

00:54:55   funny you know one thing we didn't talk [TS]

00:54:56   about how sort of hilarious but she'll [TS]

00:54:58   like this the voice talent I mean they [TS]

00:55:00   have some of the best voice talent any [TS]

00:55:02   show that's ever been assembled I think [TS]

00:55:04   you got Billy West whose do the original [TS]

00:55:06   who are was original Stimpy and then had [TS]

00:55:09   to rent after John quickly Lucy was cut [TS]

00:55:11   from Ren Stimpy show John Billy West is [TS]

00:55:14   done you know hundred million voices [TS]

00:55:16   plus the long run the Howard Stern Show [TS]

00:55:18   and he's got his own band these [TS]

00:55:20   fascinating guy really naughty fell out [TS]

00:55:23   but he's one of the best voice talents [TS]

00:55:25   you got film are the green lantern and [TS]

00:55:28   samurai Jack's voice and Trust McNeil [TS]

00:55:31   who is the voice of a million million [TS]

00:55:33   women on the show and on any damage so I [TS]

00:55:36   think you listen to their stress [TS]

00:55:38   somewhere [TS]

00:55:39   um maybe five anybody have favorite [TS]

00:55:41   voices from the show the Eagle like [TS]

00:55:43   that's what I really listening for like [TS]

00:55:44   frank welker or someone like that it's [TS]

00:55:47   it's it's if it's one it has to be [TS]

00:55:49   sapper and again but we do that all the [TS]

00:55:53   dominoes will fall over like a house of [TS]

00:55:55   cards it's really wet right he's doing [TS]

00:55:57   exactly and again right hey guess what [TS]

00:55:59   you can you're right you could totally [TS]

00:56:00   hear Phil Hartman voice doing that [TS]

00:56:02   character [TS]

00:56:03   it's best ship you to write to him when [TS]

00:56:06   up you know it's funny to you get [TS]

00:56:08   Katie's the galleries of major you know [TS]

00:56:11   she's a major sitcom star and she she's [TS]

00:56:14   doing one voice in the show and she's [TS]

00:56:16   been involved all along Lauren Tom who [TS]

00:56:18   does a lot of animation voice but she [TS]

00:56:19   comes in and does a nice with anyone and [TS]

00:56:21   a few other voices for it some kind of [TS]

00:56:23   just a or john dimaggio so here's the [TS]

00:56:26   thing you find out when you actually are [TS]

00:56:27   in the room with john dimaggio the role [TS]

00:56:29   of bender which you think of as absurd [TS]

00:56:31   larger-than-life ridiculous thing it was [TS]

00:56:34   written for john dimaggio that was not a [TS]

00:56:36   joke he is bender he is the flash [TS]

00:56:38   version of vendor so the episode of [TS]

00:56:39   futurama in which bender is reverting to [TS]

00:56:42   the term investor says I've discovered a [TS]

00:56:44   way to reverse internal the process and [TS]

00:56:48   what demon arrival of returns bender [TS]

00:56:50   from a in this fantasy scene from a [TS]

00:56:53   robot into a human that's pretty much [TS]

00:56:55   what happened the other way around to [TS]

00:56:56   make john dimaggio into vendor not much [TS]

00:56:59   doubt there's a there's a great video on [TS]

00:57:02   YouTube where this Comic Con has [TS]

00:57:05   collected a bunch of voice actors from [TS]

00:57:07   different TV shows including Billy West [TS]

00:57:09   and John DiMaggio and I handful of other [TS]

00:57:12   people and they go they have they have [TS]

00:57:16   the script of the first Star Wars movie [TS]

00:57:19   of episode 4 and they're going through [TS]

00:57:24   descriptive episode 4 with each of the [TS]

00:57:26   voice actors doing different voices and [TS]

00:57:29   in each different scene they change all [TS]

00:57:31   the voices so they're doing and they're [TS]

00:57:33   doing the ender there don't appear right [TS]

00:57:35   it's it's amazing they do fri the design [TS]

00:57:38   berg they then it and it's the whole [TS]

00:57:40   movie so it's like an hour and a half [TS]

00:57:42   and it will just go I'll just blow your [TS]

00:57:44   mind it's it's unbelievable that is [TS]

00:57:48   perfect [TS]

00:57:49   well gentlemen I think we've reached the [TS]

00:57:51   end of the time it's time to put our [TS]

00:57:53   quarters on the string into the suicide [TS]

00:57:55   booth and and sign off so any any final [TS]

00:57:59   any parting words anyone good news [TS]

00:58:01   everybody it's time to go to sleep [TS]

00:58:03   let's go [TS]

00:58:05   I'll conclude on hulu the broadcast day [TS]

00:58:11   whenever you're listening to the show by [TS]

00:58:13   thank you everyone thank you Andy [TS]

00:58:15   anarkali broken the curse and we've been [TS]

00:58:16   on a podcast together [TS]

00:58:18   longmate sale we've broken one curse and [TS]

00:58:20   started a new like I got Dean it's well [TS]

00:58:24   past your bedtime and i think i think [TS]

00:58:27   it's time to brush your teeth thanks for [TS]

00:58:29   being on the shaft thanks for having me [TS]

00:58:31   pleasure i know your love for the [TS]

00:58:33   hypnotoad true at all and john hope will [TS]

00:58:36   be back on the copper for future [TS]

00:58:38   episodes of things that are not futurama [TS]

00:58:40   thanks for being with us if you have [TS]

00:58:42   people and all be on again it'll it'll [TS]

00:58:44   happen and thank you dear listeners tell [TS]

00:58:47   us what you like about futurama in the [TS]

00:58:50   comments and the speed back i'm glenn [TS]

00:58:52   fleischmann thank you for listening to [TS]

00:58:53   this episode of the incomparable [TS]

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