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96: Space Fedora

 

00:00:00   the incomparable pod test number 96 jun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:10   welcome back to the cover podcast I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   your host Jason snail and i am here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   with three lovely panelists to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   you about hugo awards this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   that we've done i think all three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   of the incomparable existence we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   going to talk about books that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   nominated for the hugo award this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   the hugo award is an award bestowed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   science fiction fans on the best novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   and also various categories of short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   stories and TV shows and movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:36   things like that and I've always sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   treated it with some degree of reverence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   because I I sort of had a quest to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   all the hugo winning novels and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   last few years I've read all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:47   nominees and I voted in the hugo awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   because although I sort of treated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   hugo awards as the Oscars of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   fiction in many ways it's the people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   choice awards of science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   that anybody can pay to be a voter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   then vote and that explains perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   quality of some of the selections but be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   that as it may be we are going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   about it because it was always a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   me to to to get some books that i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   read and and i feel you breathe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   nominees that sounds like a perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15   I question this idea this year but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   still read them all and i'm joined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   people who've read various combinations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   of honored scifi books this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   first up the man who reads everything my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   partner in crime when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   discussing a book a cold deadline that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   will be coming up it's scott McNulty hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   Scott Jason I blame you for making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/94">TS</a>]

00:01:38   read another book by mirror I'm sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   blame the voters I swear it was not me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/100">TS</a>]

00:01:44   didn't want to read it either but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   just like you because we are committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   to the incredible i do it for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   yeah that's right it is for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   it's because we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   exactly so I also joining me today you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/114">TS</a>]

00:01:58   may have heard him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/118">TS</a>]

00:01:59   murmuring to himself in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   there it's glenn fleischmann who also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   reads many things I glen i think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   hearing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05   breathe deeply that was the that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   you heard some oxygen before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   started it's always going to write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   ok so I appreciate you do this every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11   year i call this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   it's Hugo remo is how I think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   ok it's it's a i read Moby books this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   one it's huge going away reading moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:23   it's exactly something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   also joining us are our other panelists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   is the great and powerful Monty Ashley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   hi Monty you go girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/151">TS</a>]

00:02:35   haha wow you know goodnight everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:40   and everything I could have everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/160">TS</a>]

00:02:41   else loses but Monty weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   yeah I so hope so i guess i should start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/163">TS</a>]

00:02:49   by saying that we'd actually we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   called some of these books in progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   that we did a an entire episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   uncomfortable about George RR Martin's A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   Dance with Dragons pop culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   phenomenon the ice and fire books in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/180">TS</a>]

00:03:03   HBO series and I and we did so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06   we can't put ourselves on the back too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   much but it did get nominated for hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   award i find this funny since its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   know this fifth book in a impenetrably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/192">TS</a>]

00:03:16   long book series so I i pity the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   who tries to read all the hugo nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   and hasn't read all the books that lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   up to this much like I pity the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   who tried to read cryo burn having not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   read the 18 previous Miles Vorkosigan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   books but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   them's the breaks I'd high five people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   love the series however is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   easier to get into then a dance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   dragons without any having read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   previous volumes because I think she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   does a good job of kind of making them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   little bit self-contained yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   and-and-and Dance with Dragons is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   that you know it's the next thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   pages exactly i am surprised anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   thought a dance with dragons one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   best five novels of the United seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   be the consensus of of the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   episode we did too is that is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   are good parts in it but there were also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   parts we didn't really like and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   I thought it was better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/247">TS</a>]

00:04:08   previous book and I really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   Theon Greyjoy stuff that's in it but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   you know it was a you know it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   middle chapter ii kind of setting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   up and moving some stuff along and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   trying to remember the other thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   bugged me about it was this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   unnecessary cliffhangers where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   some cliffhangers where you're like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   yeah you know you're going to resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   that in one chapter next time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   not going to be that big a deal and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   why are you were coming back we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   this far we're going to read some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   why do you need the cliffhanger but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   don't know some so Monty do you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   go along with that you read the dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   with dragons right so no no no you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:46   really want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   yeah i finished the second book am I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   only one here who read that book then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   Oh Scott rado remember I've read all are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   you ready will make everything you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   every remember do you remember any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   that those that I do i do I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   reek stuff like jason said was fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   yeah do i do find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   I don't find it puzzling that it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06   nominated mostly because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   juggernaut that is the game of thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   right now sure especially since people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   like everybody is reading these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   now I was at a potluck awhile back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:19   one of my friends turned to me and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   hey Scott have you read any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   game with Rome books and I said haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   let me tell you something I've read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   all before they were cool ah and what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/328">TS</a>]

00:05:33   was not impressed and then we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   interesting by asking what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   the menu couldn't remember how was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   have no idea what's going to have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   and then I had another person at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   party I said oh yeah my mom is reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   those books how it happened i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   okay now we can no longer read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   that's right we can't we can't read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   we're out the coolness has has evacuated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   well you know I i enjoyed parts of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   and other parts were fine and I I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   of committed to that series so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01   happy to get another installment and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   it is funny that the stuff that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   sticks with me the most is the is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   the reek stuff and also you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:13   some of the stuff with uh you know I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:17   don't know i mean so it's not sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   with me that well is it if I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   remember the guy the guy who's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   maybe another air and he's got his whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   like he emerges from out of the boat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   the river and all that that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   interested in the whole whole journey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   of on that boat with the various strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   people that are on it out the east but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   no I I don't know yeah I who do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:42   really didn't yet another person playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   the game of thrones and it's also funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   it's you know whatever you guys talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   about george RR martin like I gave up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   him in the nineteen eighties I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   hipster giver upper on Martin or and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   I know he's incredibly popular right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   but I just I found his style sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   unreadable back then and nothing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   heard since has made me want to devote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   the seven or eight years necessary after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   yeah yeah let's talk about wild cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   right now I gave up on wild cards after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   like the eighth book so those came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   faster because he enlisted other writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   but I i did like rat wild cards though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:18   yeah but it seemed like it had really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   good ideas and set up a lot of stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   then kept going on and on and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   really got any never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   no well I mean I aight you got sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   got the sense i guess they're rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   that but I you sort of got the sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   wild cards that you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   nobody really in charge and he was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   he and his friends kind of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   around with stuff and so there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   there wasn't like any ultimate storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:42   that was going to happen it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43   let's just play around in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   yeah it's just always thought he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   always thought he was sort of second or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   third rate in the scheme of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   interesting people to read but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   pretentious he's a working writer he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   sort of pulpy right and I mean I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   respect someone who produces even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   they pander a little as long as they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   the things they want people like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   they do and it's not horrific i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   people certainly do like it and it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   so I'm not going to criticize him for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   that I just never liked his writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   so whenever he gets the nomination with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09   like this I'm like yes the popularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   contest people are all reading it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   they nominated because they it's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   thing it's the only book you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   does it prevent anything else from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   nominated because it's the only goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   oriented exactly yeah very much yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   know I although i'll just say it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   the worst nominee so there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   oh it is now it's easier this yes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   Fault in Our from the moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   yes uh we should talk about we did it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   also devote an entire show to embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   town by China Mieville i love to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/516">TS</a>]

00:08:40   about that for another hour can we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   that is so lots of people didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   embassy town i liked it although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   didn't love it and it was definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   letdown after the city and the city but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   I i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   it kind of fascinating and interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   and i like i like how ambitious China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   Mieville is he's a good writer even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   there are some issues with it its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   execution so we do a little capsule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   summary because not everyone will read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   all these and you're covered that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   with dances with drag and said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   the embassy town is it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   sprawling novel but it's a woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10   she's supposed to be a navigator to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   move ships between stars takes awhile to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   move stuff there's some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   stuff that's of course abandoned later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   about what the spaces like between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   Emirates the stream of hyperspace kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   of twisted space that they have a gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   which is really kind of cool and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   introduced it for a while and then let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   go on and this interesting things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/567">TS</a>]

00:09:28   interstellar commerce that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   sort of cool and there's robotics which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   is sort of cool and there's alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   species that's very hard to talk to on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   this planet that Earthlings have sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   settled a little bit of with permission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   of these alien bug like species and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   embassy town on this alien planet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   humans are there and then they teach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47   aliens bad ideas and everything goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   awry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:50   so without going going to far down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   know the reason I like this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   because i was i was a communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   major and not the kind of like TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   radio kind the social science human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58   communication kind and and marty is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   rolling his eyes as he knows about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   UCSD comp apartment anyway I money where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   you become major to know I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08   literate well good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   I was smarter I and so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   appreciate the literature aspect of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   book like this but you know I liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   it was really about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   miscommunicating or weird ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:21   communicating that aren't human and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   aliens had this strange way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   communicating where they leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   everything was was referential and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   would make new references and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   little like a really super high falutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   version of that Darmok episode of Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   Trek The Next Generation where they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   of us speaking in metaphors but less fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   but I did like over that I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42   was kind of like a hot expanded universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   version of the logic puzzle where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   there's a tribe that always lies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   it's always tells the truth haha yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   you know yeah that's it because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   because as soon as the as soon as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/653">TS</a>]

00:10:54   aliens learned that you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   something that was counterfactual and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   not a reference to something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   direct that's when all hell breaks loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:02   rip off their wings yeah they rip off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   their hearing limbs here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   that I would say about embassy town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   because I'm think I'm a bigger trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   be a fan than anybody on the the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   incomparable rotating cast of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   i don't know i'm i'm close i like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   okay what the ok well so embassy town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   you I think you liked his time without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   it yeah but i think i think about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/679">TS</a>]

00:11:20   like the first third is sort of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   the middle third sort of you're like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   where's he going with this and last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   thing you're like oh really i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   was my reaction I didn't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   payoff was anywhere near as good as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   very credible setup and progression and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   that's what made the novel disappoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   for me and that's why I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   Morgan was livid like red with rage yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   he hated III one of the things I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   about embassy town is I felt like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   this is maybe a good thing but also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   bad thing about being able as he tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   he tries so hard that MC town reads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   me like 10 different sci-fi novels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   he didn't have time to write and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   just jammed parts of them all together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   into one because he's got other stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   right so he's like this part is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   this embassy this part is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   navigators in this part is about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   war but in the Civil War that's inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   and this part is about what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   after the Civil War and you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   told my kids my wife read this on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   recommendation and I was apologetic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:15   her when I said we were gonna be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   his podcast she said no no i didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   it i just did it wasn't what I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   and and that's that's what struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   about it too is like you finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   chapter and you'll be like wow where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   they go from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   and the answer is somewhere completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   different with the next chapter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   he's always on to the next idea did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   learn all that stuff about the immer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   forget it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   yeah yeah we're never going back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   there till the epilogue yeah here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   here's the thing with with me evil is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   prolific though it's like if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   like this one next year there'll always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   be another this year we've got the moby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   dick told with railroads and moles giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   models started started on that better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   than I would have expected he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   there's the rule which is if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   make up words just even start the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   often you have to learn new words and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   maybe you shouldn't start its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   called without even central like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   to FM and I loved Anna so NM is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   that it justifies it complete yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   absolutely anything rewired my brain I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   feel like me about that some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   seriously and evil embassy tended too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   much sitting in the city was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   it was a very bare detective novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   option of rewiring the brain so but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   think the embassy town up it deserves to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   be in the hugo finalists that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   you agree even with its failings I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   it's one of the best most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   interesting how I was very happy for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   to be nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   yeah there's a specific line in embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   town that I want to complain about here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:34   yes latah at one point near the end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:38   main character says I told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   revelation was spoiled for him but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   retain it for you here which is China's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   excuse for a first-person character not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   telling us what the plan is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   20 pages for now and that is cheating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   yeah but there's something where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   know your you get angry when certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   books that will discuss later are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   nominated for words like this you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   they don't deserve to be in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   company an embassy town it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00   don't know if i would recommend people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   read it or not I think I would because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03   either they get mad after i read it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   think it exposes them to nuke ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   thinking and it it moves you to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:11   emotion of some kind and you can realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   as your as you're reading it you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   you you recognize that he is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   writer you may not think that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   successfully does what he's trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   with the book but I give him a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   credit for trying to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25   different ya i thought it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   good world-building I didn't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   was successful storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   yeah exactly yeah i mean that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   individual parts of it are beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   written because he's a very good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   but the story is sort of like it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39   that's my feeling about like it keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   changing what it's about every chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   and it that isn't necessarily good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   storytelling it's like a slideshow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   and it's like different images different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   little bits but not really the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52   and there's a there's a whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   about her like husband or blacks husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   who disappears and comes back later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   that felt actually kind of cheap and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   why a plot device that he needed was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   very Stephenson real serious thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   happens in a quicksilver in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   cryptonomicon as a character like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   has mentioned early on he doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   very important at the end comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   into some crazy military-style thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   that is absolutely out of nowhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   sort of exactly as it happens embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   town always irritated me in economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   onto all right should we move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:23   let's say we touched upon we touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   upon among others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   in a couple previous podcasts and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   to bring it up again only because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   a great and I can't believe we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:35   just devote an entire podcast into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   and it's going to get my vote for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   best novel of the year because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   best novel of the year i think it is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   Joe Walton it's a story about a girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:48   is Welsh and she is in and in a school a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   private school she can take it away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   her mother's family to her father's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   family her mother's family as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/955">TS</a>]

00:15:56   her father's family is English he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   never really known her father but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01   taken away and put the school in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/961">TS</a>]

00:16:05   and shes lonely and she's starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   meet friends and she's reading tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   through the science fiction in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   library so it's about science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   but what's funny about it is it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   like the george RR martin book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   actually a fantasy novel because her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   mother and her family are like witches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   and there's this thing with spells and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   fairies and she has to go back to Wales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   and fight the fairies and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   wondering is she crazy or issue really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   reading sci-fi while living in a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   world which i think is really what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   what it is but it's so it's so great as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   a coming-of-age story and a love letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   to kids who are socially maladjusted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:42   are finding finding a escape through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:46   science fiction and also meeting friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   because there's this book club that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   of shows up where they were they discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   science fiction so it's about us in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   to i just i love this book it says she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58   such a great writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   yeah it it's about how science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   gives her a family of friends which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:06   not only the way a lot of older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   science-fiction fans like me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   basically a younger science-fiction fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   wants to feel so it really spoke to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:16   although I wonder how good a book it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   if you don't recognize every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   title as she goes through I i missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   half of them honestly I haven't read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   lot of the Canon of sci-fi but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   enough to be like oh she's going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   can and when she would hit a book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   i have read or I know about I i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   would perk up a little but for me it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   like I knew enough about it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   through it i didn't need to relive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   of those books that i read so it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   for me even though i haven't read a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   of that stuff we're just a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   behind when the book was written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   terms of probably reading this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   stuff i started reading science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:47   pretty seriously probably right around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   there a little later and I was often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   because i buy used books or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   what-have-you I was always maybe a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   years behind so what she was reading in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   the book takes place in 1979 1909-10 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1076">TS</a>]

00:18:00   right goes over the new year and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:04   think i read not exactly the sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   but a lot of that because it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07   contemporary even if it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   from four years before you work through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   stuff and she's reading stuff that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   back even a decade sometimes or or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   revelations great what she's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   james t chip tree one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   authors will something to a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   about you and she's so if he's a she and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   that great revelation and she sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   even comments and how people reacted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   that as I was happening contemporarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   yeah I I i have fun memories of going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:33   the library and there's a library in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   school librarian in this who ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   going to the town libraries in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   library's figure in and I went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   library and I i literally I went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   every sci-fi book in the children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   section and I by the time i got through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   with that the librarian said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   there's a whole adult sci-fi section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   seriously what should I want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   there right so it was so that I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   add that fun this to that you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   she's having a hard hard time making her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   way in the world and she's reading these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   books and meeting these people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   that's all great and then meanwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:02   she's grappling with her mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   casting spells on her and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   she has to go back to Wales in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   fight the ferry ghost people which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   like you know that happened to me too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   I did not really identify with that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   i mostly assumed she was crazy now no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   also joe Walton I saw an interview with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   John Walton and she said I am outraged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   that people think you're crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   she's not crazy that that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   happening yeah which kind of the book a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   little less interesting to me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   don't think it is fantastically written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   as you read you wonder for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   then I finally i'm just kinda came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   accept it's like no this is real in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   terms of the book it's totally real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   it's the matter of fact this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   people think that is that it's addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   it's it's just part of her life and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   knows some people can't see it and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   can but in their shades it for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   people but it's just that is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   wolf of that universe and so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   told the zoo ferry will let you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   makes fun of herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   the main character makes fun of herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   in how she even and how ridiculous it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:02   and she's like maybe talkin new fairies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:06   maybe he actually knew them because gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   some of the stuff they do is so close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   but it's like he made up the words they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:10   say because they don't really talk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   that he wanted to give them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   better presentation i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   it's gotta be you know in part this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   is about that the weird interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   between fantasy and science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   I mean it's purposeful she's writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   fantasy novel in which the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   read science fiction i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   interesting too i think a lot of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   readers who are wondering if it if she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   crazy are people who are maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   more predisposed to sci-fi and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   less than fantasy and that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   money right and if it's true she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   just read science fiction to read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   allows me amber but that's strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   that's true she read part of highlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   glory road before pitching it decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   send all right fair enough but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   reading all the general stuff and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   lives in a world where their fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   elements that are absolutely real true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   and I don't think I think that certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   it helps if you are a sci-fi fantasy fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57   reading this book but i think if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   someone who grew up reading anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   no it is such a great book and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   really identify with the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   other than the whole fairy thing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09   is just a very satisfying book and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   said it before but I think John Walton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   is just a fantastic writer and and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:17   think that I on in my blog post that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   wrote about the the hugo nominees I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   that among other among others is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   year's dervish house in that I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   should win but it is not going to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29   rather lovely as that is the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   it is you read someone who writes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   this and you and like and I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   toothbrush us as well you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   work to read the book she sucks you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41   the world she's painting and you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   that girl's life and when things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   that are unusual it's just part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   it's just beautiful to read it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49   she also have been captures the ordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   human interactions the middle of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   nonsense that's going on and she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   that thing i love that any science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   fiction or fantasy author does which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   set up expectations and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:01   them down through fantastical elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   that are well integrated so you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   her father sort of a sad sack is under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   sisters thumb you know they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   money but as it goes on and rice should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   be spoiler horn and I want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   anything away i don't know the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:18   spoiler fact that the sisters turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   to have maybe some witchy powers without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   fully understanding themselves even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   they do and that the father is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26   being you know sort of essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   mystically compelled to be under their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   thumb to do their bidding so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   have to deal as much with the world i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   mean that's a little beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   where she then relationship with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   father shifts a little from sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   discussed two more pity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   mmm can i bring up one other thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   the book i'm going to dominate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   discussion of this book because I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   be all of it to go ahead Glenn go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   well so that would be the best thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   it is it is she is she introduced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   concept of fantasy retcon what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   the whole business about magic doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   work generally magic doesn't work about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   making something happen going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   it works by changing all the past events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   necessary including making people be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   born who didn't were important before in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   order to create a scenario alright she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   feels that you actually feels that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   what's happened is the culmination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   you know everything that's happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   your life is the result of spells to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:18   culminate in getting her where she needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   to go right which is an interesting way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   of looking at whether that's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   crazy or not it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   she doesn't know when the ferry sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:27   imply that they sort of don't have a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   know necessarily they're like okay we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   need you to be here so we cause she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   like did they change the school vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   schedule for all schools and wales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   england in order that i could not hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   time to meet them and then she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:41   disturbed about the book club she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   I don't the guy remember the book clubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   the guy works in the library is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   rude to her and cold the first week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   then two weeks later he's lovely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   mentions a book club they have and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   thinking did this 60 year old woman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   in the book club which she never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   born if I didn't need the book club to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   exist very very good concept i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   it's got a great chance of winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   because the hugo voters are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   go to or have memberships for worldcon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   and in many ways this book is a love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   letter to science fiction fandom so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   think it's gonna do really well among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   the populace at @anjghie Walton is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   very respected I mean people do love her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   and in in the in the sci-fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:24   convention going community so she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   like some kind of outsider person either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   so she bought she's also out there cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   she blogs regularly on tor.com she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   actually has done a chapter-by-chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   analysis of the Patrick Rothfuss books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   that we talked about on this podcast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   name of the wind and the wise man's fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   where she's blown my mind by doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   various kind of connecting the dots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   the things in the office books so I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   know she's out there and she's active in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   writing about this stuff too so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   she's got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:52   I think she's got a fighting chance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   think there may be black backlash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   against george RR martin so nobody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   one last year welcome thing at after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   reading among others which was my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   row Walton book I then read three more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   in short succession farthing Halfpenny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   and half a crown which are and that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   calls it her small change trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   yes which it's a it's an alt history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:15   that is disguised the first book at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   least disguise as an Agatha Christie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   novel and it and ends up much more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:23   yes and it's fantastic yeah I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   read the third one of those yet but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   read the first two and they are they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   I will i said this on the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   podcast i will read anything but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   walking now because she's not as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   I'm gonna go retcon having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36   everything she's written actually first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   I have to read everything she's read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   because I'm treating among others as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   new book list there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   website that someone has listed every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   book with a cover that she mentions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   another's nice which pretty sure we move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:55   on to to Leviathan wakes let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:26:00   about life takes a chance on quarry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   which is a fake name because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04   actually George RR Martin's assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   assistant if and a co-author is good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:11   great friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   yes who's like an agent or works at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:17   publishing company or something anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   so it's a it's a it's a this is a this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   is a spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   sopra would you say Scott I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25   that well this is a so it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   it is kind of a space after i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:31   it's a small-scale space opera because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   it's been in the solar system by Castro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   and move exactly so it's not really when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   you think space opera traditional space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   opera it's kind of a speedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   galaxy-spanning and there are huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   numbers of spaceships and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   really what this book is it's a they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   kind of they are within the solar system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   and they go to a different asteroids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   planets and things but there isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   large amount of kind of a vessel combat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:27:00   or anything like that right there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01   little bit but but not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   yeah so it's kind of it's certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   I think the purest science fiction novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   that has among the nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   uh yeah i get i guess so i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   i guess you'd have to say it is uh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   it's interesting it's golden tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   timeframes the captain he doesn't start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   out as the captain but he ends up as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22   captain of this crew people on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   various spaceships and then there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   guy Miller who's a cop on the edge a cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   on the beat and need an asteroid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   horny Miller and he's very top on the ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   space cup on the edge of space wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   space and and he's he's fun and that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:40   is a very new orange kind of guy where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   he's a you know he's a he's divorced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:47   he's got a drinking problem and he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51   partner who's come problematic as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   partner is like a an earther he's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56   is outside you know spacer kind of guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   and there's a conspiracy and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:04   they're gonna take this badge way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   actually you're part of it reminded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   of the trick with george RR martin does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   in the first game of thrones and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   game of thrones where there's a prologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   that says something really strange is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   happening and then he leaves he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   lays it there for like 300 pages and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   think you're reading one novel and um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   and you realize i'm only halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   when this is wrapping up what is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   to happen and then you realize oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   the prologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   surely that was that what i thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   was are there really your thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   notice base vomit zombie people running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   around answers yes there are vomit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   zombies and yes vomit zombies is how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   refers to them in the book this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:50   think there's a lot of fun to read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   it was it was the first time I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   admit that I i attempted to read this my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:58   first attempt fails because i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   the beginning the prologue and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   whatever reason it did not interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   at all so i put it aside but I am glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   that it was nominated for a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   because that forced me to actually read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   the whole thing and it was once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   past at least once I got past the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   like 30 pages i was hooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   I must have stopped 29 the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   round I thought you'd like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   the norrish to space detective guy part1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   he was not in the the program yeah why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   why is there not a a guy wearing a space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   for Dora that's what I say I'm he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   like this is what I no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   oh yeah that's right i guess a space for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   Dora finally unlocked yes governor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:42   I i may be wrong about this but I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   like the parts that weren't the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   cop may have started life as firefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   fanfic funds read that it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:53   had someone grabbed his kind of gruff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   and Andy yeah you gotta growth captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59   who's got a code of honor plays by his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   own rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02   he's flanked by a huge weapon obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   guy and his second-in-command a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   confident lady of big ethnicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   yeah it was a great engineer is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   fantastic engineering has anything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   spittin whatever and they do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   quickie things the middle of fights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   you know he looked over and shrug i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   thought you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   parts of it felt very weenie in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:24   way but I especially liked media are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:28   holding the sort of the camera is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   of grizzled he was awfully grizzled even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   though i think he was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   quite young at the same time still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   unclear and lost trying to help these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   supposed to be Grizzles before his tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   which must be handsome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   and vigorous and virile he's personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:45   and character because he is for a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   who's not in charge he is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   competent it with the one exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   which is that he can't shut up and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   says stupid stuff over public airwaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   friday and add and constants that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   true but in politic but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   he's like super comp confident which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   thought was kind of funny because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   not like he was ever the captain before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   he was not the captain before but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   the captain and many other people died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   and he's the cabinet but he had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   great lines like it's like you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   for once I'd like to get off a ship or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   planet and not have it blown up behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   when he does get a complex about that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   ride a horse like triggers keep stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   well they over and over again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   but ended the moments where the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   intersect that are actually very funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   because the two main characters you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30   like oh these are my buddies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   following through here they hate each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:33   I said okay we're making sure they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   forced to work together of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37   are because it's an odd couple and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   force towards justice in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   I thought it was fun it wasn't deep i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   thought it lasted maybe a hundred fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   pages to libraries among them like yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   just thought that felt like the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   then it just kind of kept going kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   looking at the page count i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   Shirley we're wrapping up here like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   my god on that page like 400 off 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   something i don't think so the Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:05   gets obsessed with solving this murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:09   or looking for the script about a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   it's about a girl right get obsessed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   he starts having conversations with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   and kind of hallucinates about her and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19   thought that was i I would and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   novel that's nominated has a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   device and I thought it was much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   executed in the violin wakes then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   another of the nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   yeah I i guess so i thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   weird but it was sort of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   we accept that he's kind of gone crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   and is obsessed with it and that worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   for me the thing that bugged me i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   was the was in the other in the parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   story there's this whole subplot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   oh I'm the captain but I didn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   who is the second in command but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   do anything because I'm the captain but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   I love her and then she's like but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   always loved you and it's like well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   let's do it and they go off and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   it's all weird and awkward and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   thought that was just so bizarre that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   was like such a strange like is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   know it seemed a bit much to me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   that was just like really is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   do we want to have what we got vomit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   zombies here do we really need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   unrequited love of the captain and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   will also say there is like let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   about let's talk about science now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   protomolecule like a good device but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   they there's something I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   there's something both like interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   and sloppy it's like this thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   protomolecule whatever it is can like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   take over any life-form encounters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   it's it's anaerobic somehow they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   vomit out to spread it and constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   constantly around places in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   things should be everywhere and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   should be airborne just as particles not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   like paralyzed or whatever and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   don't get infected like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   constantly constantly and things being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   blown up shot expanded seeping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   you're like no no these guys they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   wearing the spacesuit and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   nope no could possibly like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   of that you know that it was when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   have the creeping crud you have to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   little better explanation about why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   crud doesn't affect people that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   troubling this is also not the only book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that has zombies in it but it's trippy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   i liked the premise more there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   there's an interstellar biological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:17   yeah that we have that we sort of dodged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   a bullet on and now people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   uncovered it and and also draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   parallel to the george RR martin stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24   it's sort of like everybody's fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   with each other over the control of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   thing when in fact this thing is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   to kill us all right but its fingers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   little alien z yeah the bio weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   yeah I wanted to say it was like we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   meet aliens but then I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   happened in Alien Resurrection right I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   love to see i love the scenes where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   they basically have this plan where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   they're going to kill everybody on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   one asteroid in order to test out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   thing and they throw them in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   radiation and that leads to a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53   thing where our guys get dosed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   radiation a fatal level if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   get help and they're not sure if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   ship is still there and they have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   through all of the series of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   I thought that would make a good i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   that's like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   put in the movie right it's like a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   set piece that they go through where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   they think they're gonna die and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08   to get out of this I asteroid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   essentially everybody in it is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   die because they've all been infected i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   thought that was kind of cool that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   the villains of the Peace the corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   corporate villains of course it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   corporation that's very alien to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20   actually r-ark sabotaging this in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   to test out this terrible thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   gonna kill all of humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   I like they're desperate escape there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   felt the radiation sickness kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   forgotten towards the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   certainly by me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   yeah they got cured ya know they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   cure the the only signal hills and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   taking pills and he's probably gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   all the rest of his life and Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   winds up you know you know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   when I remember what happened to Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   you don't let that happen to you yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   Here I think I'm pretty safe that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   happened to me but i wanted to i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   draw a parallel to a pair of books i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   thinking about the alien threat thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   like the idea that alien civilizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   I mean there is that notion in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   sci-fi that you see it actually quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   bit of the space operate stuff is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   if you don't if humans don't expand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   fill the universe some other more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   successful species will because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   those spaces you know it's not virtually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   infinite there's only a finite amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   space in the galaxy and all habitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   planets for a particular in a life-form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   type will be filled and there's Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21   bear has a nice top don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   some authors you sort of write ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:24   patients with Rory or you read Darwin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   radio and either way I'm right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   but for just the forge of God is 97 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   and then the sequel anvil stars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   beautifully paired books i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   recommend the forge of God is earth gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:41   attacked by some it's a bizarre thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   it's like first contact then things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   started to fall apart and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   it's basically aliens using a technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   I think they'd vaporize like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   moons of jupiter in order to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   mass necessary to carry out the attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   but its automated self-replicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   machines that go through and destroy any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   other trace of life in the universe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   that they don't wind up becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   threat and trying to you know look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   latent well later there's a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   books by jack mcdevitt that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   that too where there's basically these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   Omega clouds that come through and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   figure out that it they're essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   you know they're they're intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   things created not creatures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   machines that are searching for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   straight lines and parham parallel lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   and things that are signs of of a heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   of life and if they find and destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   planets so yeah same i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   something I think there's a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   rational you know thing to say like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   you can travel between the stars and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   life just wants to expand then it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   in its not implausible this game two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   things the things that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   civilizations with tent would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   specifically attempt to destroy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   their life because ostensibly other life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   would spread into try to destroy them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   but those books are great and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   that's a little bit the protomolecule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   was like the you know more of a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   movie version of something that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   sleek and and well-presented now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   pair of books I we should move on to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:09   fifth book I don't you like it here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:13   red deadline by mirror grant i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:17   I I was living my life and being happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   yeah I was not okay so let's recap here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:24   this is the sequel to feed which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   book that was nominated for the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   award last year and and what's worse I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   came in second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   good don't even remind always job my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   suffice it to say an incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   history in our modest history of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   who listen to be uncomfortable i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   it goes down as the most disliked book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   but we've ever discussed Scott and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   we really really really didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:51   and of course the sequel got nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   and scott and i looked at each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   across the internet and said well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   guess we have to read it like and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   both said what maybe it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   well that may be going too far but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   wanted to be open-minded about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   i wanted to be open-minded despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   fact that I didn't like feed and as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   read deadline a few things occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   me i questioned my life now I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   choices that led me to this point I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   wondered why I was doing a podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   if there are questions I but what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:25   reminded i was reminded of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   liked about feed em uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   yes in that in that the world that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   built in feed is interesting it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   lots of interesting rules and some nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   texture to it it's this world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   there's been a zombie apocalypse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   it's kind of under control only sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   not but it's not like a total apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   it's just like they that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   infestations and occasionally there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   outbreaks and you've got to have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   blood tested all the time but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   like working on it and there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   bloggers networks and they broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   their blogs and their videos if and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:59   know that all I like that part of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   didn't want i want i don't really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   her world-building I mean I guess her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   world building was good the way she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   explained all of the stuff that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   built into the world was really clumsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   the writing style really bothered me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   then there's some terrible characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   and feed that are just tell telegraphed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   villains and things like that so here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   so as i read i was reminded of the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   and the bad about feelings and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   really the best thing about feed so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   is a spoiler so if you haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   speed and you you want to read it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30   should not listen to what I'm about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   say right uh so the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   narrator fee scenario here someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   you think I cannot die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   does in fact I think it's infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   becomes a zombie and her brother shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   her in the back of the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:45   yes which is is an amazing choice and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   was it was a I give her full credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   writing that it was fantastic best part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   of feed the rest of it was complete and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   total crap and i would like the time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:41:00   spent reading it back but it's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   instead I've rested well how so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:06   so Scott what I can't let see what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   can agree on here i thought this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   better book than feet i will agree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   that although very low bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   yeah but it is it is a low bar so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   the think I feel like she did it I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   like the there is there isn't a stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   villainous character like the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   the conservative Republican vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   president guy who had a mustache and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   twist it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   I I it's true i thought that was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   I thought then learned snidely whiplash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   she didn't do what she did in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   book where little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   really you know you'd be in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   of a conversation and then she'd go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   and tell you about her world building 44 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   pages and then come back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   conversation I felt like just reset the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   world up and yes he did a little but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   know and what she did drop in was not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   as have painfully inserted it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   a little more natural true and teacup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   Bulldogs for acute you get right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   which is all part of the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   that's the episode with that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08   discussed it was called zombie Marmaduke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   because the idea is that if dogs get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   big then they go into zombie they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   zombie dogs so you can only have tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   dogs tiny animals many many dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   yeah yeah and so some other than so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   command characters brother is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   narrator for this we we have this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   where they are discovering that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   a conspiracy and below zombie-related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   conspiracy in the CDC who the CDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   they're besties I've never trusted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   city's no you can't they say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   going to cure us of things but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   believe them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   don't believe him first you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   read the whole thing I I got to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:47   and I didn't die i thought you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:53   thought some of it was interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54   thought someone was bizarre we had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55   of the this very straight i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   brother and sister were adopted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   they're not genetically related know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   she won't come out and say that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   basically had sex with each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   and it's implied but they are it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   amount of mooning that goes on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   about over one another and about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   about his dead sister is it is our and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   unconcernedly and then there's a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   in this book in which he is so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   isn't this is working to spoil this yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   you want to read this just stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   listening now and never come back never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   come back to stop us take forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   because you should not be this book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:35   if you do and you don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   spoiled you should stop listening now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   he has sex with some other chick in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   book yes and of course he he calls out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   his sister's name in the forest set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   which is wrong on many levels because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   it's cheap and b it is disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:53   so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   I was both disgusted and appalled as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57   reader and as someone who writes in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:01   she used such a cheap and predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03   yeah yeah you know so also I got it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   got to say though there's a there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:07   affectation there there's only one poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   him with a stick in this which was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   in the first book is all about yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   they are I I made note of for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   I have some notes that i didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   forget but mother that's what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   to talk about a c-collar income a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   of the 50 name is a great detail about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   what about this character drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   drinking coke and I ok the idea is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   he's talking to his dead sister in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   head because she's in his head like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   smoke inside dr. McCoy's head and star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   trek 3 or something like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   she's in his head but far worse but far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   worse and he keeps drinking coke because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   she liked to drink Coke and it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   weird affectation and the amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   spent detailing him opening and drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   soda and or coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   he's honoring his sister by drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   soda but it's like this this book might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   as well come with a six pack of coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   just like as part of the tree book at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   that would bring some redeeming quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   to it because I at least have some coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   but yeah and that was annoying and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:08   mentioned about Leviathan wakes Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   uh you know imagining that the the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   girl is speaking to him and I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   that was done I think better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   similar plot device that was in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23   book and that's because every time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:27   hears a George's voice he thinks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   himself oh I am crazy and I am hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   my dead sister and that is crazy heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   that she's just says that over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   yeah at a certain point you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   know what you could just have him here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   his sister's voice and we the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45   will figure out that he's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   little crazy crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   yeah you don't yes we have the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   every chapter where he says something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52   and somebody goes hot what like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   been with this guy how long now how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   they not know I mean it's clear he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   talking to his sister I think everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   got it then there's so there's a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   like where they go visit this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   scientist who has this lab that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   rogue lab and they're trying to research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07   zombie virus i liked it I liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   part and when they leave they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   like blow it up because they can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12   they have to go somewhere else now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   thanks for coming and ruined it we gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   blow this place up now I like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   know that the but the the whole CDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   thing I mean yeah it's a very very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   i always conspiracy but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:23   really got me about it is but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   what ok first off it seems odd to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:29   that there's this there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   revelation of like oh do you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   mm no and then it goes for several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   chapters and then you very slowly figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   out what it means when it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   actually quite clear what it means and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   you could say it and we can move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   then it also seems strange that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   seems to have been very little effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   actually for anybody to learn anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   about the zombie virus apparently in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   order for these want to happen which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   doesn't seem very realistic to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   after all these years suddenly there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   crack in the case where somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   notice something about the zombie virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   that's incredibly important to it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   there's that and then the other part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05   feed the whole end of feed is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:09   guy who worked with them becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   vice president of the United States and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   they were closely with the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   becomes the president of the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   states so in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   these people have amazing connections in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   the US government and yet at several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24   points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:24   there's a well we can't really call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   now he's busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   why is the guy we have been out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   about Holly most important thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   yeah yeah oh it might be a conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   involving those real truth behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   zombie virus and that it might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   actually be fatal and there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   lots of other things we learned to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   the CDC is controlling everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   puppet masters but you know we know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   vice president the president personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   and save their lives on numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   occasions now and let's not bother them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   they're probably busy with legislation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   or something right here there's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   green act okay working on so since we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   keeping the spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   here's the here's the worst part about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   the hook which is I like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   he talks to Georgia is his sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   because it's like well I killed her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   the previous book but I'm gonna tell her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   how she's still in it right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   remember her and he's internalizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   and even though i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   ham-fisted I thought it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   choice and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   hey chip bring the character bed right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   right and i like it sounded like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   world but in the end of the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   because I said we've been set up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   the carrot one character comes to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   and and she's supposed to be dead but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   they found her clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   oh and i will tell you once I heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   word clone I thought man she is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   going to do this issue and the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   chapter of the book is that uh that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   dead character from the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   Georgia wakes up in like the CDC and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   wife and that's an eye I so bold 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   through the e-book across the room at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   that moment didn't you Scott I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   book from the library because I refused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55   to pay for its I got it might mean with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:59   my Hugo nomination payment so i got i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   was i was hopeful that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   better but I was starts better it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   better is but that's true it is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and I end it should point out that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   know we criticize these things and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   sure she worked very hard on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   ensure she loves this and she has she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   has a lot of fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   she's left fans and so I I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21   her effort but I do not appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   final problem no I i was trying to Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   at I was trying to think of this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   become sort of famous that we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   these books I was trying to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   why I don't like it and why other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:35   like it and I it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   fascinating to me that she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   following you got nominated for the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   novel two years in a row this series has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   got nominated so why she has a following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   she kids like zombies people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   zombies people do like zombies and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   really like somebody's the setting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   fun right there there's it's this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   of wacky bloggers and zombies and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   an interesting combination that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   another for another thing about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   subfloor soso the whole one of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   premises of the book right is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   mainstream media is ineffectual now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   nobody pays attention to it it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   bloggers bloggers are cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   everybody gets their news from bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   we are hit over the head time time again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   bloggers are where you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   information from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:18   yeah because the mainstream media is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   no good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   if they exist at all I mean if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   existed and then so this thing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   and there's this big like a cloud that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   turning people into zombies right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   in characters are a group of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   most world-famous bloggers and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   sitting in a house watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   mainstream media right however the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   biggest story that's happening and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   like wait that's the ascii Annika yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   why aren't they read blogs you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51   be consistent with euro and why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   should me there watching TV it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   alright so so if i don't know why i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   talking like this so so so I so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   trying to understand why people like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   i think it is the setting and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   concepts involved in its fun and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   that and then I was trying to think why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08   don't i like it and as I'm reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11   I'm thinking okay what is it about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   that bugs me and and you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   first book it was some of the cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   characters and there are a lot of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   are a lot of cardboard characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   this to the know that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:23   dialogue is I mean it's really clunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   and I I think bottom line is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   like her writing style i think the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   is kind of bizarre and and not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   the the dialogue isn't very good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   shit the world is interesting right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   I i think so i think the success of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   these books has a lot to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   interesting world and a few kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   dynamic characters at the center of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   brother and the sister and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   fighting for you know what's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   yeah you know and as far as i know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   is like the Citizen Kane of zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   fiction I i don't mean they're not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   of great I i have read a lot of zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   books and maybe this is among the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   of the zombie books but but that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   the thing that really I noticed about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   is that the i just i don't like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   writing style although i will say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   think it's better I think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   better than in feed so it is whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   we're in feet but I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12   good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   I don't think I don't hate it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   fire of a thousand burning suns like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   hater feed it's only 500 burning suns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   yeah it's fewer burning suns that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   to work with but I will say this if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   was the hugo award that next year join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   us for our nebula award podcast I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   going to just give up on the hugo War [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   III I completely well we just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   incomparable awards next year that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   yeah there you go and I will nominate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   Mary grants next book 3 is out now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:41   a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:41   I want to know how it is well I'd what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   went on with anyone so many of the clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   me just call the president in chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   one and solve the and then it'll be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   yeah it's just yeah you know it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   don't know it works for some people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   that's great i don't really understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   why other than maybe just the setting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   fun but it for me and I you know I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   lots of different stuff i I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   snooty like oh well it must be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   beautiful art for me to read it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   just don't think is very good so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   I read lots of novels that are just fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   and obviously this is what this novel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   supposed to be it must be a fun story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   right and i buy me my other problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   this book is and then i'll stop your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   other other other other other problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   yes so if the whole thing right zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   it's a big deal right there they're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   important part of this world are and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   many zombies are in this book probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   like to where are the zombies in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   stupid book that was my plan today they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   have the zombie outbreak at they're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   their headquarters in oakland right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   would begin to get fire bond at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   beginning and then lots of Grandma and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   then and then there and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   zombie attack when he's like on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   yeah but that the they don't really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   anything with those obvious as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   shit she didn't want to taste all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   zombie extra traction costs are very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   zombie ratio if I were known for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   in that it's like they're in a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   there in a lab there in the house learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   that house along getting groceries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   although coke drinking coke and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   groceries from the store I mean it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   fronting a lot about them businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   quantitative real-time is something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   coca-cola is easy answer it maybe who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   knows and add I was that song you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   free coke I like diet pepsi myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   hey whatever but i think that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30   drink my co can think of my distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   this discussion reminds me of a of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   futurama literally two cops you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   seen like the entire series who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   apparently do all the policing of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   like to zombies they were reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   yeah they're really outliers their dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44   on their feet so if you do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   zombies you may not like this book if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   you likely if I like future blogger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   government conspiracies involving viral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:55   adji and the content of the messages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   transmission of various viruses and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:02   occasionally rapid cloning of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:06   into adult bodies which is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   impossible love that anyway uh it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   that this is I endorse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:14   this is felicia day going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   Georgie and the movie version is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   the plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:17   I hope for her sake but there is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   to be apparently movie version feed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   good laughs all right so anyway deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   I then i will be reading that sixth in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:27   my palate below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28   no award hey I will not make clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   i did not like deadline alright and i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34   not break but could have been nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   but in the spirit of openness and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   how open-minded Scott my really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41   yes it wasn't it was better than feed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45   was better than feed if it's that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   feed were the only book you had ever in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   your life deadline not be good with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   the best book you ever read everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   was over it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   wow that's amazing oh yeah okay and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3356">TS</a>]

00:56:01   author can use them as a blurb on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   book yeah I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   wow I want better Jenny would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   better as a feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   that's right can I put the I'm gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   my rubber and getting my uh my rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   pole and i'm going to poke you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   because you've been touching the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:16   rail and you can't let go and I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   not electrocute myself while I knock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   off the electrically let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   the other other other books that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   and nominated for a little earlier this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   year just really quickly so the nebula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   awards which are voted on by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:34   science-fiction writers so same were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   awarded in may in fact yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   so the nominees and and and among others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   one did it not willingly rightfully so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:43   yes it hey so among others one embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   town was the nominee will deserved uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   firebird by jack mcdevitt I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   remember if i've read a lot of his time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   not sure if i've read that one I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   never been ejected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   it's always fun he it's a it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   space opera is people spaceship so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   that's Alex Benedict I don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   i have read that I know because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   all the same but the greatest I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   expenditures like Indiana Jones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10   space and he finds it people think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   he's a like a relic like they did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   people think he's a thief because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   stealing relics but he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   finding relics and he stumbles on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   mysteries and he solves them and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   are you know there's sudden violence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   he barely escaped with his life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   they're fun they're like space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   history books and he has these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   series in the Alex Benedict is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   the the space archaeologists and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   there's the hutch series where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   Priscilla Hutchins and she's a pilot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   there otherwise pretty much exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   same every time and the great i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   them they're they're fun so I I own some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   books by him but I have rhythm so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   i will put them in my rotation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   yeah there for you I think you like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   just because they're fun you know fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   stuff i will sing God's war by Cameron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:59   early i have no idea where nightshade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:03   books it is it has a very striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:06   however a deadly government-funded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09   assassin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   I don't know anyway so that's what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   was dominated mechanic a tale of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   circus true salty by genevieve valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   i also have no idea no idea but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23   title is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:24   it's a circuit that maybe a pen name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   could be the steampunk flavored circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:30   story other Zeppelin's I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34   you one can hope there are aerialists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   they're all gala Zeppelin and they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   to fit as many clowns as they can Intuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   if it's a team that would be thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   of them if they send in the clowns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   Newstalk steampunk flavored and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   kingdom of god which I have not read but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49   is a Sowell by NK jemisin to the hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:53   thousand kingdoms write that book i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   all three books i think the books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   there they're not perfect but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:59   their unique there's a flavor to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02   writing there's a beauty to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   his world creation there's romance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   there's just I just think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   terrific i'm actually reread them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   don't have time to read much and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   reread two of the three and will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   third is there actually rich enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   interesting enough very compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   characters at the center in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   of all these gods and boards and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   like that great world great world she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24   created yeah it's a hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:28   kingdoms is the only one I've read but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   like that I like that a lot now is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   of my favorites from last year i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   for two years ago that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   second the second and third amazingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   it's a trilogy in which the second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   third i would say are equally good or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   better and there's some good payoff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   the third formatting read all three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   it's a fantasy series where there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   gods that have been have been captured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   by humans and they wear it so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51   like an all-powerful God and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52   they're like gods have been captured and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   there's a whole conspiracy about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   the gods and what they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   and uh you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   and uh you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   girl is brought out of the village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   insurance actually has more to there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   more to her life than she expected which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   is traditional and yet really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   well-executed i like i like that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   meet me trying beautiful writing in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   early novelist don't think she's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   much and she bruises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   yeah 3 very not very solid books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   will hold up over time I think and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   started a new series the first book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   available i can't believe it yeah she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   prolific to I'll gosh-darn her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   prolific pneus somebody in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   is saying any of the gods had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   captured by other guys I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   like the gods and the people working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   together to trick the other gods into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   there's sort of a war between there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   three essential recreation there's three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   central creation gods and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   managers to kill one and imprison the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   other and all of his allies right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   that's the theme of the first and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:45   second there's sort of a reversal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   fortunes and write primary God has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   cope with that and then the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   focuses on a low-key like characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   like a later God important it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   BUTT STUFF very real very realistic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   the sense of feeling like actual human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   interaction in the middle of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   giant stuff happening okay and now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   the locus awards which are given by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   british science fiction magazine locus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:10   and not by actual locusts that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:15   so cool to have a winner every year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   the locust awards is berry blue which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22   not so good so I'm so the winner was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   embassy tab who interesting little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   home-field advantage there for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   English with iphone wakes was nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:33   11 22 63 by stephen king was nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:38   and I enjoyed that book i enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   book quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   mmm other people did not hope I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:47   the locusts did not hear this now it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:51   nominated that was very nice in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   Stephen King's time travel book we did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   whole episode about that where he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   guy goes back in time to try and stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:58   the Kennedy assassination and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   very nostalgic and nice and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   this weird part where he goes back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   the future and Maine is part of canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   and that part isn't very good wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11   fulfillment very values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   rule 34 by charles stross was nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:16   here i read that i read to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   actually I i put a sort of fun even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   though was unwieldy and it was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   than other as either I ready come he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   really kept me going for quite awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   with it so this is a this is a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   his that set in a future Scotland that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   sort of devolved from the UK and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   semi-independent or mostly independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   but it's part of this part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   European Union and so you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   Stross doing some projection of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   near future technology and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   it's a it's a crime story and the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   have like augmented reality where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   are they're looking things up making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   band you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   yes King has a little headset and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:56   that this the Scottish police woman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   you know they're all equipped with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   computers and stuff in there said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:01   there's a decryption is this one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   the encryption pretended they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   people dead and they had all been dati [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   all dies it's the it's know the rule 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   thing is as we know this from XKCD coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   that it's that any candy is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   print dates that ok rule 34 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   first few days ago if you could imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   anything there's pornography of it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   here and so the rule 34 squad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   informant a rule 34 squad in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   Scottish police force is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   policing the internet for stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   you know beyond the pale and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   figure out three or if it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   checking out me and all kinds of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   and what essentially happens it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   right i mean you know i'm going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   spoiler here's like road computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   software developed enough intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40   to sort of influenced a lot of outcomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43   and kill off bad people and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:46   people might shut it down and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   really weird thing about credit default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   swaps happening in a breakaway republic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   right have to dump the debt onto evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55   binders like there's like a shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56   country where like the big country has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   taken part the poor part of it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   and made it be independent and put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   its dead inside it which is a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   is it was like why is this not happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   yet that some countries done it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   they then they all vote for being merged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   back with a big country shut all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   debt and the country solvent again while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   the bankers take the ticket the shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   is it was a revenge fantasy games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   bankers and it's really cool villainous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   whoo-hoo we follow who like is killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:28   people and he he's he's really messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:32   like he's he's a very disturbing kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   character but fascinating in his own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   and you some brain chemistry drugs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   keep him on to keep himself under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40   control then you lose control and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43   yeah you know is that the other book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   Leviathan wakes there's also a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   that one of the evil that a big evil guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   there's a bit about his eyes being dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   like the eyes of a shark and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:52   that's also if the line isn't in rule 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:55   there's something about it as writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   like to use sociopaths because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   have them do improbable horrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   and without my motivation right so I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04   I thought there were lots of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05   bits in rule 34 but like halting state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   which is the one with the encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   I feel like it's I feel strangely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   disconnected from the strong stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   feel like I you know there's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   much of an emotional connection I I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   a parade of interesting near future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   technical like technological speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   and I like that about it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   characters are you know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   some interesting characters it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   just didn't I don't know I I didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   it I I i appreciated it as a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:38   speculation but I didn't like it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   story I guess is what I'd say and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   that way about a lot of strong enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   yeah that's sort of the best that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   your theme that is he strong smell theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   i think the same things to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:51   stresses out great ideas but i don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   any emotional connection to it it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   mechanical even though it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:56   well-constructed yeah yeah they do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   that i mean he has a lot to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   the economic collapse in the stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   banks and lawyers and the lawyers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   the banks and the credit default swaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   and and the the shell country and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:10   the positive there's an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   Planet Money disguised as a sci-fi not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   not no zombies in it tho those uplands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   so it's just like deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   I don't know and the children of the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   diver nuvinci which is the sequel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:24   third book in the series of the deepness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   in the sky and the fire upon the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   right and i haven't read it I relish to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   I'm radium i read the first two and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:35   liked him but it was a long time ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   then he's done this third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   looking I I just haven't I just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   gotten to it i like i like a lot of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   stuff and I haven't gone to it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:46   yes Glenn was it was saying yes there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   a fantasy novel category for for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   locusts Lou they love their friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54   dance with dragons one that category / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:58   among others which is outrageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   it is it is an outrage yeah and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   snuff by Terry pressure and left a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:07   and over the wise man's fear by Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   Rothfuss which was again like as John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   siracusa said like a good book exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   leaving little bits of good books scout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   around a lot i think it is in fact good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   book i enjoyed it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   syracuse crazy it's not so your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   community what about stuff throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   snuff i was convinced that practice was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   going to kill off captain vines because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   area Cratchit so this is a button is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   there the Nights Watch is that it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   yeah yeah I like I've read guards guards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:37   so I and terry pratchett is getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:41   the end of his writing career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   yes mhm and any book could be his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   so I was really afraid that he was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   to up the stakes and just finished vines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   off completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   especially with a book called snuff sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   did he not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:58   ok so i can i love i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:03   yeah but you know you don't write fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   or however many books he's up to now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   think kill off your protagonists yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   do you or M george RR martin would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:12   you do but true i guess you can if one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:16   of your other protagonist his death also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   nominated is deathless by Catherine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21   valente I have not read that i read her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   Hugo nominated book palimpsest a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   oh yeah enjoyed that I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   disliked that a lot until I read haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:32   another blur for her book but I've Reds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   I think I read something by plenty that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   i liked the girl who circumnavigated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   early am so i don't know i don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   then among others like I said lost that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   category shade of the locusts I is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:48   greater go back into hibernation they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   should on the other hand in the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   this novel territory which I glad they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   have night circus which we all really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   think one and ready player one that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   not which is justice and ready player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   one didn't get nominated for Hugo word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   so which is yeah well as we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   that that's up with a fight who is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   to be on the ready player one episode so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   many of us wanted to say negative things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   about it and i think i mentioned i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   on a podcast with only client of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:13   it was a delightful and wonderful person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   and I like very much so i hope this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   adventure books I would like very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:18   people write bad books it's her very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:21   people right good books I wanted like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24   want his future novelty better so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   may like that and I didn't say and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   didn't hate ready player one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   wasn't on that podcast i-i-i as I as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   said several times i quite enjoyed being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34   shamelessly pandering to buy back so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:38   was on that podcast as i said i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   ready player one very much and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   decline wrote a great fan script first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   cool but her mother yeah that I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   nobody wanting what's funny about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   podcasts is nobody remembers the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   who liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   this is true this is true so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   go that's a lot of award-nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   novels I guess Scott Scott if you ranked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:10:00   the hugo novels how would you how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   you rank them I among others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06   uh yes what would be the first 1i green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   then i would place embassy town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:12   yes uh Dance with Dragons Leviathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:16   wakes and I would just drop deadline off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   yes no award and then they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   know I think we are in agreement I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   we are an exact agreement there i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:27   the honor of truth is not nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   Scott McNulty listen to him is right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   read a little bit of snow either you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   that you're very well-read Jason you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   and I have a similar reading taste I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41   think I think that must be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   although I I guess what this means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   that i should get into historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:46   detective fiction and should you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   know what you're missing out apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49   not if you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   it must be good it's fantastic yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   amazing and I also a read all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:57   nominated short stories for the hugo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   there are some good short stories so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01   you like short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   check them out I read some of the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   writing they were really good that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:08   good that Hugo's also always have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11   dramatic presentation categories in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   year the warm form is Captain America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:18   the last harry potter movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   Hugo source code r which is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:26   pretty good movie and the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   of Game of Thrones which was submitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31   as a long-form work which is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   win the DVD set together commentary on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   I i kinda like to go I I like source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   yeah i would probably vote for Game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   Thrones I like a nightmare on to so who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   I loved Hugo i love you go soak your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   number one yeah I like I'm i like I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   in 3d and didn't dislike the 3d martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:54   scorsese knows what he's doing he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   pretty good director is me is that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58   been around the block and and we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   say as somebody just said in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   chatroom Hugo must-win Hugo it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   there anything about it must int the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:07   eventual in this credibly scene 3 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   movies one was alattar one was Hugo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:15   one was peanuts movie by vendors our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:19   sermon movie and course those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   movies actually needed to land all aided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   by 3d and you go I thought 3d version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   they really could use some space so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   everything was a movie about moviemaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   and end my turn astral filmmakers and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:34   it's a it's a love letter to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   original filmmakers jalandhar million by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   a master filmmaker and it shot in 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42   which is this new and strange movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   format by the master filmmaker it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   meta and interesting and and it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   and the combined kids even liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   social baron-cohen isn't it my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   needed to learn about George Millie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:55   they did ya get you know parents should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:59   really be there there when you've first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   teach your children George Malley a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   because you know they need guidance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   firm hand it's important and he fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   many early science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   yes he did so yeah they're gonna mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   see such a lovely fellow like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   be George 98 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:15   alright happen i'm convinced that Hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   must must win you must win and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:21   for best dramatic presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   there's the bunch of doctor who episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26   the doctor's wife by Neil Gaiman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   girl who waited a good man goes to war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   and then the remedial chaos theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   episode of community we should excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   that should have heard that's very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:36   and not an acceptance speech from one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:39   the winners at last year's hugo awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   which I gotta say what I gotta say I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:43   in my room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44   those guys were very nice what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   that's like when the Oscars keep winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   the Emmy for yeah that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   it's like I i was in the room they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   ah what the hell so if I if I voted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   this category III would be a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   choice between remedial chaos theory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   the girl who waited which I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03   think was the best episode by Neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   Gaiman will probably win because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   everybody loves neil gaiman i love Neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   Gaiman to but you know what i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:10   girl who ate it was a better episode so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   you know the foot it was a flip between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13   the two the doctor's wife was a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   celebration of the whole who history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   universe and the girl away it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19   great original spare drama that involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22   that use the actor's exceedingly well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   different kinds of things with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:25   excellent i did not like that community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   episode i thought i did very little to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:30   expand on the idea of alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   realities which I've seen a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:35   killjoy yeah yes I i liked it i I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:39   enjoyed that episode but you know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   have fun at the boat i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   probably enjoy your six seasons and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:45   yeah 3 seasons and then an extra season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   where everybody's fired yay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   save money everybody will be going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:53   classes and studying and every as free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   single damned episode all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   that brings us to the end of our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:00   perusal of things that were nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   for awards that we do every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   Oh what we do until next year Scott I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:09   don't know Jason who what novel do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   think will win not which one you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:13   should win which one do you think will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   win as well as the other person who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:18   read all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   you know I'm so say hello Mike goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:25   i'm gonna i'm gonna say George RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:26   Martin's gonna win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   it's almost certainly don't use from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   the number of voters were going to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   for him for the reason that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   probably all the novel's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   yeah that would be my guess is but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   hope is that Joe Walton will sneak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   there and of course my fear is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   will be deadline but yeah that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:44   unfortunate what so but yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   obviously we can read content later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   make it all work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50   yes well if if John Waltons book doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53   win then it will because the fairies had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   to set up the timeline so that it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:58   win weezer we should say you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4558">TS</a>]

01:15:59   just need we need to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:01   uncomfortable winners you know what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:02   after all the awards are over we pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   our own winners and I work are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   words to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   yeah but Martin's novels have apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:09   never won a hugo well it may be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   those Lifetime Achievement Award kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:14   yeah and and the even though it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   fantasy novel and it's sort of a sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   category a Harry Potter novel one at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   point and I think was one of those kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   of tips at the Capitol Scott is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   disgusted by harry potter star shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   we wait till the last novel I mean we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   all be dead by then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:30   therefore the lord of the ring styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   the absolute yeah well they want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   it to george RR martin while he still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35   alive and writing novels and claims to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   be finishing them before everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   and I have to feel like this is we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:43   reached the kind of the height of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   crazy popularity of the games i could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   wrong and it could get even crazier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   lemoore popular but I think maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   could it be I don't know III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   understand how could but Broadway it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   would seem it would seem that by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:57   time the next book comes out the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   going to be probably winding down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   that seemed to be I think the wall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   wall the first season was very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04   and the book the new book came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:07   don't know if they're gonna beat that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   the height of the hype but we could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12   wrong that that show is is exceedingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15   popular so it seems like the existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   of the show means he has to hurry up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   finish the series because yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   going to stop production on the show he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   will run out of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   yes marriages my start writing their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28   still hurry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:29   well they might divert and then George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   then George RR Martin's last book will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   just be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34   Avila's a which would be going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   from online on this and just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:37   diverge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   ya know i like that i like him to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   to have the last book just be as seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   on hpl be so great this is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:48   novelization have a crossover with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   beauty and the beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:51   yeah brilliant alright this was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:54   i'm glad that Scott I got some of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   rage out and then we appreciated many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   other books that were good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   yes so that's good rich cast and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:03   highly recommend i'll put them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   show notes i'll put links to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07   episodes where we discussed some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:08   these novels in more detail for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:11   who want to go back but this is great so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   I'd like to thank my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   Glenn fleischmann thank you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   here and being so well-read thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   I'm three-fifths well-read thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:22   very much but the right three-fifths it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:25   yes well done Monty Ashley was great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   have you on and talking about books this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   was cool i I you know we can we had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32   want for the game of thrones thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33   it's nice to have you back in and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   you to be so well-read as well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   great i read all of those books on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   cruise ship two weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   wow that's the way to do it good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   that was the that was the wilco no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:47   was that a wizards of the coast theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   that was the magic the gathering Cruz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   was not an official Wizard of the ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   wizards of the coast event but did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   many wizards of the coast employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56   alright nice that's pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   speaking as crews and strangely jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   coulton is on it just as a participant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   not to mention and Scott McNulty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:07   course my partner in choosing good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   bad novel sleeping but thank you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:13   for being back and and helping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   through my trying times with deadlines I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:19   I blame you Jason I blame you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:23   it's my fault again like I said ivory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   I'm rethinking my priorities in life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:26   why am i doing podcasts where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   reading books like this and this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   that brings to a conclusion the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   episode of the uncomfortable goodbye i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   resign despite because it is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   over our until next time when we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:41   about Jonathan Coulton but I I refuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   be on that podcast I refuse because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46   already recorded my not on it that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   next week until then this is jason snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:51   for the incomparable signing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   we'll be back I'll forget about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   book a week and once it wins an award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   which case how do we do I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:04   don't know another age cast yeah it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   be a special and our obscenity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   being comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:09   it'll be fun to bleep out the packet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   alright goodnight everybody thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   for listening to be uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:17   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:28   I'd like to think Monty for suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   zombie marmaduke and the cherry we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   name another episode the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   would be awesome but it wasn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:36   be Marmaduke two electric boogaloo I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:39   that to prove i'm still paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMblxcfQ/4839">TS</a>]