The Incomparable

88: Skywalker`s Eleven


00:00:00   today digital digital blue internet did [TS]

00:00:09   a did you do did to do [TS]

00:00:12   yeah that was really bad [TS]

00:00:20   the Intolerable podcast number 88 april [TS]

00:00:25   twenty well [TS]

00:00:28   welcome back everyone to the [TS]

00:00:30   incomparable i am your host Jason snow [TS]

00:00:32   and we are here tonight to kick off the [TS]

00:00:37   third in our trilogy of podcasts about [TS]

00:00:40   the original Star Wars trilogy we [TS]

00:00:44   started a long time ago feels like a [TS]

00:00:46   year ago with the original star wars and [TS]

00:00:48   then we followed it up in the fall with [TS]

00:00:50   the Empire Strikes Back and we're back [TS]

00:00:52   here in the spring just as just as the [TS]

00:00:55   seasons change so too does our target we [TS]

00:00:58   move on to return of the jedi target [TS]

00:01:00   return of the jedi the third in the [TS]

00:01:04   original Star Wars trilogy I remember [TS]

00:01:07   quite well the wait for this movie [TS]

00:01:09   between the dip the weight between the [TS]

00:01:12   Empire Strikes Back and Return of the [TS]

00:01:13   Jedi so painful i remember sitting [TS]

00:01:15   doodling on my paper in eighth grade [TS]

00:01:19   you know imagining Star Wars things as [TS]

00:01:22   we waited for for for the the summer [TS]

00:01:25   when Return of the Jedi would come out [TS]

00:01:27   and we could actually see the resolution [TS]

00:01:30   of the story of the the Star Wars saga [TS]

00:01:32   which which for me for people of my age [TS]

00:01:35   you know this was a story that that [TS]

00:01:38   spanned really our childhood and we had [TS]

00:01:40   to wait wait don't like those [TS]

00:01:42   whippersnappers have got to watch it all [TS]

00:01:43   at once i'm joined today by [TS]

00:01:46   whippersnappers by the way again i am [TS]

00:01:48   jason hall hosted the incomparable i [TS]

00:01:50   have with me some returning Star Wars [TS]

00:01:53   commentators Dan Morgan is here hello [TS]

00:01:56   Dan adjacent to point out which aisle [TS]

00:01:58   which I'll mention later I saw this in [TS]

00:02:00   the theater [TS]

00:02:02   good job good job we will what we like [TS]

00:02:04   outside of your mother's womb [TS]

00:02:06   yeah i was i was five alright i think it [TS]

00:02:09   was the real was rereleased a home ok [TS]

00:02:11   well that's the way I was alive when it [TS]

00:02:14   came out yeah yeah [TS]

00:02:16   also joining me a serenity caldwell who [TS]

00:02:17   probably saw the re-release when it came [TS]

00:02:19   out in 1999 seven and yes haha yes thank [TS]

00:02:26   you for being here together again huh [TS]

00:02:28   it is here we do it we're doing this [TS]

00:02:30   again this is it right there won't be [TS]

00:02:31   any more of these right said I'm a [TS]

00:02:33   little tearful about that [TS]

00:02:35   yeah wouldn't miss is they certainly [TS]

00:02:37   weren't any other movies will loop back [TS]

00:02:38   around and do [TS]

00:02:41   start all over yours again yeah exactly [TS]

00:02:43   miss and of course a comment about star [TS]

00:02:45   wars would not be complete without with [TS]

00:02:48   the exception of dan moore and I guess [TS]

00:02:49   the the other sorry rain but the the one [TS]

00:02:52   of the two people I know who loves Star [TS]

00:02:54   Wars the most John siracusa hi John [TS]

00:02:57   hello Jason it's good to have you have [TS]

00:03:00   you back for part 3 [TS]

00:03:01   wouldn't miss it or actually when we [TS]

00:03:05   when we reach the half point halfway [TS]

00:03:07   point today I believe we will enter [TS]

00:03:09   episode 6 of our six episodes about Star [TS]

00:03:13   Wars so that works that is fitting yes [TS]

00:03:16   I'll to fitting so we're gonna take this [TS]

00:03:18   chronologically as you may have gathered [TS]

00:03:20   there but fear was nineteen eighty-three [TS]

00:03:22   it was nineteen eighty-three so I guess [TS]

00:03:24   what i said it was eighth grade I was [TS]

00:03:25   wrong with seventh grade when I was [TS]

00:03:27   doodling in my notebook daydreaming [TS]

00:03:29   about Star Wars well yeah so here's the [TS]

00:03:32   weird thing it was rereleased in [TS]

00:03:33   theaters in 85 I believe because that I [TS]

00:03:38   have this argument with my parents [TS]

00:03:40   because I Drive I have a very vivid [TS]

00:03:42   memory of being picked up by my mother [TS]

00:03:45   at preschool [TS]

00:03:46   I wasn't even in kindergarten yet and [TS]

00:03:48   being like super sight to go to get to [TS]

00:03:51   go see you return the Jedi because they [TS]

00:03:52   adjust I like I thought he had just come [TS]

00:03:55   out but frankly I just five so I I don't [TS]

00:03:58   think I really knew what was going on [TS]

00:03:59   but they insist that I you know I knew [TS]

00:04:00   for years I came out in 83 so i must [TS]

00:04:02   been three years old no no we would not [TS]

00:04:04   take you to that movie at three years [TS]

00:04:05   old does like I remember it so i looked [TS]

00:04:09   it up at some point i think it was [TS]

00:04:10   re-released in theaters in 1985 because [TS]

00:04:12   they used to do that [TS]

00:04:13   yeah actually a day before home video [TS]

00:04:15   really took root [TS]

00:04:17   they absolutely did that but I did see [TS]

00:04:20   it i actually saw it I as a [TS]

00:04:22   seventh-grader I got to the theater long [TS]

00:04:27   line it up the front they say well it's [TS]

00:04:32   almost sold out there's probably like a [TS]

00:04:35   couple of seats but they're they're [TS]

00:04:36   really bad as you do you want to do you [TS]

00:04:39   want to watch it that way [TS]

00:04:40   of course I want to watch are you [TS]

00:04:41   kidding all of my kind of study did not [TS]

00:04:44   carrying about Star Wars so much because [TS]

00:04:46   I like to start tracking all that by the [TS]

00:04:49   time returned to the Jedi came out it [TS]

00:04:50   was out the window it's like no I will [TS]

00:04:52   sit and i did in the front row [TS]

00:04:54   in the far right corner and seat and so [TS]

00:04:58   when when when the climactic moment of [TS]

00:05:01   this all these years of buildup of my [TS]

00:05:03   childhood came my neck hurts so bad [TS]

00:05:06   feeling care jason i didn't know where [TS]

00:05:08   it was so skewed on that giant screen [TS]

00:05:10   I'm all the way in the corner and all [TS]

00:05:11   that but it didn't matter [TS]

00:05:12   no you're right it didn't matter up so [TS]

00:05:15   does anybody and i'm looking at John [TS]

00:05:17   when I say this have any opening remarks [TS]

00:05:20   that they would like to share with us [TS]

00:05:21   before we move into our chronological [TS]

00:05:23   stepping through return of the jedi I do [TS]

00:05:27   have a brief brief opening statement [TS]

00:05:29   I'll allow it [TS]

00:05:31   have a few very specific things today [TS]

00:05:33   barbage excellent so here we are [TS]

00:05:36   return of the jedi the beginning of the [TS]

00:05:38   end [TS]

00:05:41   in hindsight all the signs were there we [TS]

00:05:44   know this now because we live here in [TS]

00:05:46   the future and 2012 all the signs of the [TS]

00:05:48   George Lucas that we would come to know [TS]

00:05:50   in the new millennium are in this movie [TS]

00:05:52   so you you are a proponent of the theory [TS]

00:05:54   that that in some ways the that return [TS]

00:05:57   of the jedi points the way to the [TS]

00:05:59   prequels and yet and the axles yeah yeah [TS]

00:06:04   and yet this movie does many many things [TS]

00:06:06   well including the most important thing [TS]

00:06:09   it has to do which is provide a [TS]

00:06:12   satisfying and to the series which as we [TS]

00:06:14   know contains only three movies [TS]

00:06:16   yes and it also has what i think is one [TS]

00:06:18   of the boldest messages of any action [TS]

00:06:20   adventure trilogy and it conveys that [TS]

00:06:21   message successfully and I'm sure we [TS]

00:06:23   will discuss this as the movie continues [TS]

00:06:25   that is my name's David nice setup there [TS]

00:06:27   are you creating some drama we know that [TS]

00:06:30   this podcast will have an end and it [TS]

00:06:31   will probably be satisfying because it's [TS]

00:06:33   the uncomfortable or our turnout but we [TS]

00:06:37   are we're creating some dramatic tension [TS]

00:06:39   to lead us through [TS]

00:06:40   I think that's excellent work you [TS]

00:06:42   learned from the Masters alright so [TS]

00:06:46   return of the jedi it uh it starts with [TS]

00:06:50   credits yeah okay and I just a few care [TS]

00:06:53   to read the opening school first [TS]

00:06:55   I know it involves Luke returning to [TS]

00:06:58   Tatooine actually it its it's funny the [TS]

00:07:03   my son is a is an avid reader and yet [TS]

00:07:05   when we watch this movie this weekend [TS]

00:07:08   he completely ignored the the scroll I [TS]

00:07:11   think it's too much work to look at the [TS]

00:07:12   slanting lines as you read it but it [TS]

00:07:15   does hurt the eyes a little bit but it's [TS]

00:07:16   a way for George Lucas and his and his [TS]

00:07:19   team of people to to basically say yeah [TS]

00:07:23   this stuff happened I we're not gonna [TS]

00:07:26   show it to you it's like suffice to say [TS]

00:07:28   they're building a new Death Star [TS]

00:07:29   I mean is that that's essentially what [TS]

00:07:30   it is it's fine i wish i mean we see in [TS]

00:07:32   the opening shot anyways yeah right [TS]

00:07:35   where but we're about to show it to you [TS]

00:07:36   I'll be honest empires credits i [TS]

00:07:39   remember fairly well [TS]

00:07:40   Star Wars credits are fairly iconic but [TS]

00:07:43   the this open and crawl i can never [TS]

00:07:45   focus on for more than five seconds I'm [TS]

00:07:47   like yeah the movie [TS]

00:07:48   ok let's get to the movie yeah we want [TS]

00:07:50   to find out what happened to hunt solo [TS]

00:07:52   saber gnite words words words the [TS]

00:07:54   outrider at where is he [TS]

00:07:55   and then instead of that what we get is [TS]

00:07:57   the death star under construction [TS]

00:07:59   completing get our are third in you know [TS]

00:08:02   every opening sequence begins with a [TS]

00:08:05   star destroyer essentially type and down [TS]

00:08:08   to a planet and the Star Destroyer right [TS]

00:08:11   while pants down and there's a estar and [TS]

00:08:13   then the star destroyer coming over as [TS]

00:08:14   like it doesn't it's just sort of a [TS]

00:08:16   throwback to us the first Star Wars yeah [TS]

00:08:18   I love that moment of sickness the the [TS]

00:08:21   death star again because that was the [TS]

00:08:23   for me that was one of those unexpected [TS]

00:08:24   things like wow that going all the way [TS]

00:08:26   back there building we're building [TS]

00:08:28   another Death Star we're gonna notice [TS]

00:08:30   that they must have started it like when [TS]

00:08:32   the first one was already done though [TS]

00:08:33   right yeah like it's a little bit a few [TS]

00:08:36   years since the building one would build [TS]

00:08:38   two for twice the price [TS]

00:08:39   exactly right and and although in most [TS]

00:08:42   upscale you know but it looks you know [TS]

00:08:44   it's it's only partially constructed [TS]

00:08:45   it's probably not fully operational [TS]

00:08:48   it looks much cooler doesn't everyone [TS]

00:08:50   think it looks me air than the athlete [TS]

00:08:52   and one the completed ones like it's [TS]

00:08:54   kind of a big golf tennis with all the [TS]

00:08:56   great the imperfections of it i think [TS]

00:08:58   make it that much more intriguing and it [TS]

00:09:00   gives its scale because when it's when [TS]

00:09:01   it's featureless in a giant sphere you [TS]

00:09:03   can imagine it being smaller than it is [TS]

00:09:05   but the tiny cracks in this thing makes [TS]

00:09:06   you think it looks larger I'm a big i [TS]

00:09:09   love the the incomplete tests are [TS]

00:09:11   there's a shot later on which will get [TS]

00:09:13   to what that actually that i love [TS]

00:09:14   because it tries to put the death star [TS]

00:09:16   in in size perspective with the the moon [TS]

00:09:20   that its orbiting around but [TS]

00:09:21   so in this opening scene Darth Vader [TS]

00:09:25   arrives on this constructed Death Star [TS]

00:09:27   to talk to the the gentleman who's in [TS]

00:09:30   charge of building it and I was [TS]

00:09:33   immediately struck by what kind of a [TS]

00:09:35   manager the Emperor is the guy seems to [TS]

00:09:40   talk a good game is like oh no we're on [TS]

00:09:42   track [TS]

00:09:42   we're doing great star we're gonna make [TS]

00:09:45   it we're going to get all our schedules [TS]

00:09:46   and and and Arthur's like rent but [TS]

00:09:49   directors writers like yeah whatever [TS]

00:09:52   doesn't share your enthusiasm I so I'm [TS]

00:09:55   here to basically kick you in the shins [TS]

00:09:57   and make sure that you do your job so I [TS]

00:09:59   so immediately my thought is wow that [TS]

00:10:01   Emperor he's a jerk he's a player of the [TS]

00:10:04   Darth Vader's like the one the one my [TS]

00:10:06   capable guy in the Empire and he's doing [TS]

00:10:07   his job is to like get around like [TS]

00:10:09   yellow people until they actually do [TS]

00:10:11   their job is the fixer [TS]

00:10:13   yeah yes is the Emperor's fixer i love [TS]

00:10:16   also I I could not believe that that [TS]

00:10:18   this was the first time I sort of [TS]

00:10:19   thought about the fact that in that [TS]

00:10:21   first shot the shuttle comes out of the [TS]

00:10:23   Star Destroyer slinging things down is [TS]

00:10:26   over to the dark clothes little wing [TS]

00:10:28   things up land and i was first time [TS]

00:10:29   actually that was it needs a little [TS]

00:10:31   things for the situation it made sense [TS]

00:10:35   to me because they're entering the [TS]

00:10:36   hangar which probably has artificial [TS]

00:10:38   gravity it was some sort of with that [TS]

00:10:40   but it really goes in that space [TS]

00:10:44   Donald continues I was amused idea I [TS]

00:10:47   well I mean you know 20 what to almost [TS]

00:10:50   30 years of watching this movie and I [TS]

00:10:52   did this is the first time it actually [TS]

00:10:53   even occurred to me i didn't care before [TS]

00:10:55   but now i'm looking for all the little [TS]

00:10:57   details looking for the Knicks as i said [TS]

00:10:59   i watch this with my kids and my kids [TS]

00:11:02   have played lego star wars through many [TS]

00:11:04   many times and I i like to bring up [TS]

00:11:08   funny things Mike it's a while watching [TS]

00:11:10   it down in these podcasts and that the [TS]

00:11:11   funniest thing that my son said during [TS]

00:11:13   the entire watching return of the jedi [TS]

00:11:14   which my kids love it's mike it's my [TS]

00:11:17   kids and we can talk about this too and [TS]

00:11:19   we talked about the prequels and all of [TS]

00:11:21   that [TS]

00:11:21   this is my kids favorite of the Star [TS]

00:11:24   Wars movies which I you know I think [TS]

00:11:26   says something about its effectiveness [TS]

00:11:27   as a kids movie it and I do think that [TS]

00:11:31   maybe points the way a little bit to [TS]

00:11:33   where George Lucas was with [TS]

00:11:34   headed but anyway darth vader drips into [TS]

00:11:37   this poor guy who's been put in charge [TS]

00:11:39   of building the Death Star and leaving [TS]

00:11:42   behind the guy is standing there on the [TS]

00:11:43   shuttle deck and my son turns to me and [TS]

00:11:45   says in lego star wars that cries haha [TS]

00:11:51   also in return of the jedi he also cries [TS]

00:11:53   it's just inside he's yeah he goes into [TS]

00:11:55   a little side room to weep and write a [TS]

00:11:58   letter home explaining he may not be [TS]

00:12:00   coming back [TS]

00:12:01   haven't started the negative high enough [TS]

00:12:02   to see his tix yet it could have been a [TS]

00:12:04   you know it could've been really driven [TS]

00:12:06   home if Darth Vader been like remember [TS]

00:12:08   the last guy who ran the desktop is a [TS]

00:12:11   severe amount of or lack thereof of [TS]

00:12:14   force choking in this movie i've noticed [TS]

00:12:16   me to make up for all this challenge [TS]

00:12:18   then what happened that [TS]

00:12:20   yeah exactly yeah you don't think that [TS]

00:12:22   struck me about the hangar scene was the [TS]

00:12:24   obviously they built this set which they [TS]

00:12:27   used a couple times in this movie of the [TS]

00:12:29   big black floor and then like the matte [TS]

00:12:30   paintings behind in everything right [TS]

00:12:32   yeah and some that's a big tile black [TS]

00:12:36   floor with like scuff marks all over it [TS]

00:12:37   and looking at that floor like you know [TS]

00:12:40   if they did that and a green screen they [TS]

00:12:42   wouldn't have made the floor so kind of [TS]

00:12:44   like dingy looking because it's hard to [TS]

00:12:46   get a giant serve polished surface you [TS]

00:12:48   know in a computer you can get a [TS]

00:12:49   perfectly smooth classy black surface [TS]

00:12:52   made of tiles but these are these are [TS]

00:12:54   beat up tiles on a soundstage somewhere [TS]

00:12:55   and that that real this will be it is [TS]

00:12:58   something that still quite haven't quite [TS]

00:13:00   captured with CG and I mean they were so [TS]

00:13:03   excited about that floor that they [TS]

00:13:04   clipped it out to reuse it in the Empire [TS]

00:13:06   special edition in one answered it was [TS]

00:13:09   good-looking floor [TS]

00:13:11   well so yeah so Darth Vader comes and [TS]

00:13:14   and and checks up on this poor guy who [TS]

00:13:16   then in lego star wars he cries and we [TS]

00:13:20   the stage is set the Death Star is being [TS]

00:13:23   rebuilt although I'm i guess by the way [TS]

00:13:25   know all the thermal exhaust is just [TS]

00:13:28   kept inside the Death Star forever there [TS]

00:13:30   no ports you would think they learned [TS]

00:13:32   that lesson [TS]

00:13:33   yeah it's like a it's about it's about [TS]

00:13:35   92 degree once we close up our once we [TS]

00:13:37   close up the superstructure will be safe [TS]

00:13:40   yeah right well so that they didn't [TS]

00:13:41   build the time [TS]

00:13:42   and middle they haven't finished [TS]

00:13:44   constructing whether they left on huge [TS]

00:13:46   tunnels and not done [TS]

00:13:48   yeah that's part of the current driver's [TS]

00:13:50   license through there but I think it's [TS]

00:13:51   pretty unlike once it's closed up [TS]

00:13:53   bulletproof or just I'm just saying [TS]

00:13:56   Emperor bulletproof once we finish it [TS]

00:13:59   but nobody we gotta protect me until [TS]

00:14:02   then it's not gonna work anyway so I on [TS]

00:14:06   to Tatooine I were back on Tatooine hey [TS]

00:14:10   that that was my notes like look its [TS]

00:14:13   tattoo we are again it was lazy but like [TS]

00:14:16   I kind of liked that book ending again [TS]

00:14:18   back to the first movie [TS]

00:14:20   yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of [TS]

00:14:22   callbacks obviously you know this being [TS]

00:14:24   the end of the trilogy there are a lot [TS]

00:14:25   of things in there that we visit that [TS]

00:14:27   our director of X either star wars or [TS]

00:14:29   Empire right you know because we go back [TS]

00:14:32   to Dagobah we go back to Tatooine on the [TS]

00:14:34   Death Star you know there's a lot of [TS]

00:14:36   time spent sort of you know referring to [TS]

00:14:39   things that happened earlier movies but [TS]

00:14:40   it's good gets it provides sort of [TS]

00:14:41   shorthand i think which is which is nice [TS]

00:14:43   we don't spend too much time you know [TS]

00:14:45   having to learn about new stuff we kind [TS]

00:14:47   of get tattooing right it's set up for [TS]

00:14:49   us and it's a good wraparound because so [TS]

00:14:52   this is a series of three movies and [TS]

00:14:53   then the first movie console mentions [TS]

00:14:55   Jabba the Hutt although the scene with [TS]

00:14:56   him is cut because he was just some [TS]

00:14:58   Irish dude job [TS]

00:15:00   Oh hut well he's not still just an Irish [TS]

00:15:02   dude he might be I don't know it's hard [TS]

00:15:04   to tell me what that but he's mentioned [TS]

00:15:06   and then and then you wait until you [TS]

00:15:09   know one movie and then add another [TS]

00:15:11   movie and then you're like oh yeah [TS]

00:15:12   that's that guy that they talked about [TS]

00:15:14   in the first movie and he's an integral [TS]

00:15:15   part of this movie you know it up the [TS]

00:15:17   most movie series don't have that kind [TS]

00:15:19   of patience and I don't know it's just [TS]

00:15:20   because Lucas didn't have any idea what [TS]

00:15:22   or who job about was in the beginning [TS]

00:15:24   and just needed Han Solo somebody money [TS]

00:15:26   and then I thought if the third movie [TS]

00:15:28   remember that job [TS]

00:15:29   why don't we just put him in this one [TS]

00:15:30   and then they figure out what he is or [TS]

00:15:32   you know because most of the time movies [TS]

00:15:34   will not plan out a narc that long i can [TS]

00:15:37   you mentioned job that you mentioned job [TS]

00:15:40   with a hard act 1 and i get off your ass [TS]

00:15:42   and check out once said ya back to that [TS]

00:15:46   job that's got to go all he's got he's [TS]

00:15:47   got to be hired again so so you're right [TS]

00:15:50   it's funny when you think about it that [TS]

00:15:52   this is the story about Luke and his [TS]

00:15:54   journey and our theater and the [TS]

00:15:55   rebellion but all three movies have as [TS]

00:15:59   one of the major plot elements on solo [TS]

00:16:01   owing some money to a big blob on [TS]

00:16:04   Tatooine we know he's a big blob we [TS]

00:16:06   don't know it turns out he's a big blob [TS]

00:16:08   but yeah so he owns he owes the money [TS]

00:16:10   that's why takes the job in the first [TS]

00:16:11   movie that's why both that is looking [TS]

00:16:13   for him in a second movie and of course [TS]

00:16:15   then we have to free him in the third [TS]

00:16:16   movie so in the end it feels very [TS]

00:16:18   effective as this overarching story even [TS]

00:16:21   though i think you're right John that it [TS]

00:16:23   you know it may just have been the [TS]

00:16:26   screenwriters picking up the plot [TS]

00:16:27   threads it's like a it's out there you [TS]

00:16:29   know gives us something to do so let's [TS]

00:16:30   let's keep following through and they [TS]

00:16:32   chose to make that the second [TS]

00:16:34   sort of downer is that are here are one [TS]

00:16:37   of the characters that we love gets [TS]

00:16:38   captured because of this he's you know [TS]

00:16:40   taking off by belief that you have to [TS]

00:16:42   find out what happened on so that's what [TS]

00:16:43   we're all waiting for right [TS]

00:16:44   oh yeah so you know he he was sent the [TS]

00:16:46   bounty hunter goddamn goes back to job [TS]

00:16:48   hunt you gotta find that worried about [TS]

00:16:49   ya so they knock on job as front door as [TS]

00:16:52   you do [TS]

00:16:53   r2d2 and c3po very wizard of oz like [TS]

00:16:56   shot [TS]

00:16:57   yes there's some there's some nice [TS]

00:16:58   backfill in there to where they're like [TS]

00:17:00   oh you know Lando into we went to this [TS]

00:17:02   place and never came back [TS]

00:17:04   yeah follow along kids were already set [TS]

00:17:07   up [TS]

00:17:07   yeah there definitely is a lot of that [TS]

00:17:10   sort of trying to there's a condensed [TS]

00:17:12   yeah trying to set your out delivering [TS]

00:17:13   you with this information that you need [TS]

00:17:15   i'll tell the story that you've yeah [TS]

00:17:18   although that's actually a problem [TS]

00:17:20   because when c-3po and r2d2 get inside [TS]

00:17:23   one of the wines that struck me as a [TS]

00:17:25   real clunker is where c-3po says are to [TS]

00:17:28   look captain solo and he's still frozen [TS]

00:17:31   in carbonite as he was at the end of the [TS]

00:17:33   last film where we if you recall the you [TS]

00:17:37   know it's like yeah yeah we saw the [TS]

00:17:39   movie but clearly this is just like [TS]

00:17:41   recap for those who you know because [TS]

00:17:44   it's a movie and maybe you have to start [TS]

00:17:46   over [TS]

00:17:47   he's an avid God while singing he is [TS]

00:17:50   yes java is a collector of art really [TS]

00:17:53   the droids are always used for that [TS]

00:17:54   expedition type stuff it's just that you [TS]

00:17:56   can do it gracefully and you can do it [TS]

00:17:58   clumsily this example of the ones and [TS]

00:18:00   Jedi start sliding over to that other [TS]

00:18:02   side and you know again getting back to [TS]

00:18:05   the signs being there to George Lucas [TS]

00:18:06   didn't write this movie by himself [TS]

00:18:08   Kasdan is credited with the the screen [TS]

00:18:10   play along with him so I don't know what [TS]

00:18:12   the split was there but clearly it's not [TS]

00:18:13   Lucas by himself and it's like well this [TS]

00:18:15   has been asked to do it you can make the [TS]

00:18:17   droids provide exposition that does not [TS]

00:18:18   make our teeth go on edge but now it's [TS]

00:18:20   like a little kiss in there you know [TS]

00:18:22   just saying let's do the casting got all [TS]

00:18:24   the good lines and Lucas got all the bad [TS]

00:18:26   ones [TS]

00:18:26   it's pretty same exemption it's [TS]

00:18:27   expedient yeah because we have evidence [TS]

00:18:29   of waters can do on his own with Leigh [TS]

00:18:31   Brackett I guess [TS]

00:18:32   and what does Lucas doing his own and [TS]

00:18:34   it's it's a very very clear line there [TS]

00:18:36   let's say also I I suppose that this [TS]

00:18:38   could have happened off-screen but you [TS]

00:18:41   know I think job as security is really [TS]

00:18:43   bad [TS]

00:18:44   it's like I mean like our to just like [TS]

00:18:46   let these guys rolling I mean if I [TS]

00:18:47   r2d2 is like a packed with explosives [TS]

00:18:49   boom that's the end of Jabba the Hutt [TS]

00:18:53   right so it's so hard to find good help [TS]

00:18:55   you know I mean they're not the most [TS]

00:18:58   strong-willed smart guy knows those a [TS]

00:19:00   beginner marine guards not really not [TS]

00:19:03   really great hired for their [TS]

00:19:04   intelligence to pick the big guys did [TS]

00:19:06   you let in somebody's Jessa give them [TS]

00:19:09   their actual name it guards [TS]

00:19:11   ah guards guards right there goes [TS]

00:19:16   forward to my name right i mean i'm not [TS]

00:19:18   in another movie the people i think the [TS]

00:19:21   competence of the guards and jobs [TS]

00:19:23   palaces in fitting with the overall tone [TS]

00:19:27   of this section of the movie in the [TS]

00:19:29   whole movie there's a little bit of a [TS]

00:19:30   kind of action adventure jokey thing not [TS]

00:19:35   they're going into self-parody but i [TS]

00:19:37   would like some of the Indiana draw [TS]

00:19:38   movies start to sway into this a little [TS]

00:19:41   bit too will ya Jones is more kind of [TS]

00:19:42   light-hearted but this movie is much [TS]

00:19:43   more about look at these funny villains [TS]

00:19:47   aren't they they're kind of scary but [TS]

00:19:48   they're also kind of goofy and it's it [TS]

00:19:50   it's not i'm not gonna say it's devolved [TS]

00:19:52   into self-parody but it's it's there's [TS]

00:19:55   enough of a history with the two movies [TS]

00:19:56   behind it that they can do a little bit [TS]

00:19:58   of the self tweaking and that I think [TS]

00:19:59   you had influences the whole tone of [TS]

00:20:02   this movie and I don't think that's [TS]

00:20:04   appropriate [TS]

00:20:04   yeah yeah I know it also means a little [TS]

00:20:06   more it's a little more humor than we've [TS]

00:20:08   seen I mean there is humor in the [TS]

00:20:10   earlier movies but it's a little more [TS]

00:20:12   overt here i think or the the tone of it [TS]

00:20:15   is slightly different and I think that's [TS]

00:20:16   not agree that's not a bad thing you [TS]

00:20:19   know they kind of earned it at this [TS]

00:20:20   point and it's not all jokey right like [TS]

00:20:22   there's definitely some stuff later on [TS]

00:20:24   which will get to which is which is [TS]

00:20:25   actually pretty dramatic and pretty [TS]

00:20:27   serious so we are two fires off again a [TS]

00:20:30   call back to the first movie fires off [TS]

00:20:32   his hologram skywalker jedi priest and [TS]

00:20:35   there's Luke Skywalker wearing his [TS]

00:20:37   little black priest and say I've always [TS]

00:20:40   thought he looks like a pretty it's that [TS]

00:20:41   literally the contrary right but i like [TS]

00:20:43   it smaller [TS]

00:20:44   yeah he's got a little taller but like [TS]

00:20:46   it looks like a like it ya like a dog [TS]

00:20:48   collar [TS]

00:20:49   yeah I i love that Jedi priest we find [TS]

00:20:53   out why he sent the droids all the way [TS]

00:20:55   there [TS]

00:20:55   yeah right we got was just mailing some [TS]

00:20:57   pigeons isn't typical typical droids [TS]

00:20:59   comic relief and [TS]

00:21:01   nothing funnier than seeing c-3po [TS]

00:21:02   flustered it's the I give you these [TS]

00:21:04   droids and what did he say that was good [TS]

00:21:07   delivery because they don't linger on it [TS]

00:21:08   and they keep going you're playing the [TS]

00:21:10   wrong message that that is a senior [TS]

00:21:13   video is not Katherine Hepburn sorry [TS]

00:21:15   about that [TS]

00:21:15   no he's not he's I and a callback that I [TS]

00:21:18   really appreciate it is the restraining [TS]

00:21:20   bolt which is used on them because that [TS]

00:21:22   is the coolest bolt of all the [TS]

00:21:23   restraining bolt that makes how it works [TS]

00:21:25   droids do that your bidding [TS]

00:21:27   you can still see in the corner when in [TS]

00:21:30   that shot when they're like being [TS]

00:21:31   processed you can see these sort of [TS]

00:21:33   David where the first restraining bolt [TS]

00:21:35   was put on c-3po and it's kind of like [TS]

00:21:36   all but a nice callback just they didn't [TS]

00:21:41   ever replace that piece of the armor [TS]

00:21:43   no I mean they could have in Cloud City [TS]

00:21:45   but there were no guns and stormtroopers [TS]

00:21:47   so so what else do we have here there's [TS]

00:21:51   a an arrival of a strange Bounty Hunter [TS]

00:21:53   we haven't seen before before that you [TS]

00:21:55   got the the recurring that we like [TS]

00:21:58   thrown into to the unseen rank or [TS]

00:22:00   monster [TS]

00:22:02   yeah i got set up yeah they didn't show [TS]

00:22:05   you she goes she falls down a pit [TS]

00:22:06   everyone books but we don't get to see [TS]

00:22:07   so that's not right now during their [TS]

00:22:09   yeah and you get to see her dance around [TS]

00:22:11   and stuff briefly while you get that you [TS]

00:22:13   get that lovely eighties inspired disco [TS]

00:22:15   e number with the max rebo's band tear [TS]

00:22:19   she's a maniac on the floor hey it's yes [TS]

00:22:23   it's Jabba the Hutt's Flashdance one of [TS]

00:22:24   the things that I get out again [TS]

00:22:26   not that we're going this early a whole [TS]

00:22:28   bunch of the special edition but man the [TS]

00:22:30   musical number in the special election [TS]

00:22:32   is terrible [TS]

00:22:33   now mr. it totally doesn't fit the tone [TS]

00:22:35   of the pieces the thing I didn't you [TS]

00:22:36   know as a whole [TS]

00:22:38   yeah that's dated the sort of musical [TS]

00:22:40   number for the original one but it's [TS]

00:22:41   consistent with the rest of the movie [TS]

00:22:42   yeah and it's about balance it's about [TS]

00:22:44   balancing the tone this isn't a musical [TS]

00:22:46   and it's not like we're and now for this [TS]

00:22:47   commercial break now right well I mean [TS]

00:22:50   it feels right for a sort of the CD [TS]

00:22:51   gangster palace there's even a little [TS]

00:22:53   bit of sort of bug a new re field be a [TS]

00:22:56   nightclub in common is they're not going [TS]

00:22:58   to hire first class musicians it's just [TS]

00:23:00   kinda like yeah this is our hand [TS]

00:23:02   apparently made them in you know not [TS]

00:23:05   shooting them so did all of us watch the [TS]

00:23:07   d specialized version for this podcast [TS]

00:23:09   or did did you watch the special edition [TS]

00:23:10   else these specialized yeah yeah [TS]

00:23:13   specialized [TS]

00:23:14   of course yeah okay I like the lead [TS]

00:23:16   singer is hideously ugly that creature [TS]

00:23:19   yeah i mean with a little stick though [TS]

00:23:21   on the agency is now a giant potato with [TS]

00:23:24   legs [TS]

00:23:24   well how much you get again and Tatooine [TS]

00:23:27   yeah well you know the dancer one of the [TS]

00:23:29   dancer girls is attractive but the [TS]

00:23:30   singer is just shoot i like I was like [TS]

00:23:32   that part of both the cantina and this [TS]

00:23:34   is like you know these aliens are here [TS]

00:23:35   and they're gonna have attractive women [TS]

00:23:37   but attractive doesn't mean attractive [TS]

00:23:39   to us maybe that alien is attractive to [TS]

00:23:40   aliens of its species you know she's the [TS]

00:23:43   lead singer and she's all dolled up [TS]

00:23:45   right [TS]

00:23:46   plus you got max rebo who is awesome the [TS]

00:23:48   blue LOL keyboard and yeah but you're [TS]

00:23:51   right the singer is just like got a big [TS]

00:23:53   cause mouth for two bronze spindly [TS]

00:23:57   Muppet legs [TS]

00:23:58   yeah that's really where so that seems [TS]

00:24:01   weird in both versions but you're right [TS]

00:24:03   it's more like a pop performing as a [TS]

00:24:06   hospital attention it's a very nineties [TS]

00:24:08   feeling pop number unsurprisingly a plus [TS]

00:24:11   we've got the the introduction of also [TS]

00:24:13   of salacious crumb the little yeah [TS]

00:24:16   laughing Muppet guy at least one been [TS]

00:24:20   delightful my creepy way thanks for [TS]

00:24:24   finally sees reveal his found is equal [TS]

00:24:26   his nemesis malaysia scrub i will eat [TS]

00:24:31   your I droid okay because he does remind [TS]

00:24:36   me of them of like a like the who's the [TS]

00:24:39   guy who throws the fish in the muppet [TS]

00:24:41   show reminds me of that guy a little bit [TS]

00:24:43   like it is very Muppet like in his he's [TS]

00:24:45   Rizzo except he doesn't talk is really [TS]

00:24:47   so there you go [TS]

00:24:49   ok just laughs maniacally and press III [TS]

00:24:53   PS i think someone told me recently that [TS]

00:24:54   they met a girl who laughs just like [TS]

00:24:56   kind of terrible here so so so new [TS]

00:25:01   bounty hunter we've never seen before [TS]

00:25:03   nobody hired calm and let me tell you [TS]

00:25:05   with a thermal detonator more haha [TS]

00:25:07   that's what my favorite languages like [TS]

00:25:10   that whole that later home and rock it [TS]

00:25:12   yeah like that net word that is a [TS]

00:25:14   multi-purpose word that is [TS]

00:25:16   hey how's it going hey I want 50,000 hey [TS]

00:25:19   I've got a bomb like it's just two words [TS]

00:25:21   that it's all about intonation one of my [TS]

00:25:24   notes here is the star wars star wars [TS]

00:25:26   made-up language suck this is [TS]

00:25:28   this is about the same time that there [TS]

00:25:30   that they had in the e if you're going [TS]

00:25:32   to give anything to the star trek movies [TS]

00:25:34   let's give them that they actually had a [TS]

00:25:35   linguist make up a language that more [TS]

00:25:38   with Klingon a little bit with Vulcan [TS]

00:25:39   that that more or less [TS]

00:25:41   sounds like a a language that is not [TS]

00:25:44   English whereas the star wars made up [TS]

00:25:46   languages are just did the same [TS]

00:25:48   syllables as the English words and they [TS]

00:25:49   just throw in different sounds amazing [TS]

00:25:52   justin is a standard though [TS]

00:25:53   Harold all the stars speak languages [TS]

00:25:56   have character though because the lines [TS]

00:25:57   delivered in the make no sense [TS]

00:25:59   grammatically or have any relation to [TS]

00:26:00   what it is they're saying but they have [TS]

00:26:02   a sort of singsong quality like it's the [TS]

00:26:05   sound that these characters should make [TS]

00:26:06   you know that the bounty hunter should [TS]

00:26:08   sound like the fact that the the [TS]

00:26:09   intonation is exactly the information of [TS]

00:26:12   the subtitles is so painful to me [TS]

00:26:15   because it like but I just like a [TS]

00:26:16   language that little a little kid would [TS]

00:26:17   make up like I'm going to speak make [TS]

00:26:19   language now my morning bika make money [TS]

00:26:22   mo it's like you know that wouldn't know [TS]

00:26:24   it's not in English with different [TS]

00:26:27   sounds fun of the show uh I started [TS]

00:26:30   giving credit the you know as I did I [TS]

00:26:32   think in the first movie for you know [TS]

00:26:34   being willing to put a subtitles right [TS]

00:26:36   moving right that's right is ostensibly [TS]

00:26:38   forget and be there are lots of lines [TS]

00:26:40   that they don't subtitle exactly my idea [TS]

00:26:42   to pick it up for all of good Fortuna's [TS]

00:26:44   dialogue right when he's talking to them [TS]

00:26:46   at the beginning it's all on subtitled [TS]

00:26:48   three people understand it and we just [TS]

00:26:50   sort of we pick it up from context and [TS]

00:26:52   later on with the Ewok same thing like [TS]

00:26:53   they don't speak you know anything [TS]

00:26:56   that's intelligible it's not translated [TS]

00:26:57   all we just have to understand what [TS]

00:26:59   they're saying it's very well i think [TS]

00:27:00   that's that's pretty brave Pharaoh for a [TS]

00:27:02   movie that's you know intended for a a [TS]

00:27:04   mass audience that's very specifically [TS]

00:27:07   selected to there's one scene in Jabba's [TS]

00:27:10   palace when with between the bounty [TS]

00:27:12   hunter I think we're the one the only [TS]

00:27:15   subtitled line we get in that exchange [TS]

00:27:17   between the bounty hunter at least of [TS]

00:27:19   java of Java's between the bounty hunter [TS]

00:27:21   and java is his like this bounty hunter [TS]

00:27:24   is my kind of scum and then it is an [TS]

00:27:28   event yes it's almost like the subtitles [TS]

00:27:30   are our personal asides right [TS]

00:27:33   no it'sit's very artfully done i just i [TS]

00:27:35   think the sound of the made-up languages [TS]

00:27:36   is is that bullsh [TS]

00:27:39   they didn't put a lot of work into into [TS]

00:27:41   it back [TS]

00:27:41   to making fun of yourself a little bit [TS]

00:27:44   so it's like yeah we're not we're not [TS]

00:27:46   linguists its star wars it's a space [TS]

00:27:48   opera modeled after flash gordon we're [TS]

00:27:50   just gonna have some fun and make are [TS]

00:27:52   made up languages sound as ridiculous as [TS]

00:27:54   possible [TS]

00:27:55   Jillian's do you really think that this [TS]

00:27:57   was a conscious decision or do you think [TS]

00:27:59   this was just in confidence because it [TS]

00:28:00   feels to me it honestly I this is one of [TS]

00:28:03   those ones that I'm just not buying it I [TS]

00:28:04   feel like I this is always rubbed me [TS]

00:28:06   wrong i'm actually surprised that I mean [TS]

00:28:08   because it's you could say just say it's [TS]

00:28:10   just our track right but likely Klingon [TS]

00:28:12   I mean it's yeah it's funny that people [TS]

00:28:14   will teach Klingon but i think it's in [TS]

00:28:16   confidence i think it's just it's a [TS]

00:28:17   difference of priorities i think that [TS]

00:28:19   you know in the in the star trek [TS]

00:28:21   universe i think the people creating [TS]

00:28:22   that universe were very interested in [TS]

00:28:24   the same way that Tolkien was in like [TS]

00:28:25   creating a language that actually was [TS]

00:28:27   made sense right they did it with death [TS]

00:28:29   rockridge with Dothraki and Game of [TS]

00:28:30   Thrones too i think i think its star [TS]

00:28:32   wars they just it's not so much [TS]

00:28:33   confidence says this was not a priority [TS]

00:28:35   they didn't really care the mother [TS]

00:28:37   focusing on how these languages sound [TS]

00:28:39   the mean characters gotta have a mean [TS]

00:28:40   sounding thing and like that it was all [TS]

00:28:42   about it [TS]

00:28:43   conveying things about character very [TS]

00:28:45   little about it believable language or [TS]

00:28:48   culture but it couldn't have just [TS]

00:28:50   changed the syllable pattern a little [TS]

00:28:51   bit couldn't have written you know java [TS]

00:28:54   syllable pattern is off a little bit [TS]

00:28:55   from what he says or like that or like [TS]

00:28:56   change the subtitle so it's not a [TS]

00:28:58   literal translation of what they were [TS]

00:29:00   saying in English and turned into sound [TS]

00:29:02   because it just it always felt it just [TS]

00:29:04   meant a little too close to the [TS]

00:29:05   subtitles and always rang wrong for me [TS]

00:29:08   just struck me wrong I didn't I don't [TS]

00:29:09   wanna you know get up too much it's just [TS]

00:29:12   you always wanted another 20 minutes it [TS]

00:29:13   always just made me think like wow [TS]

00:29:15   that's awfully awfully close to the what [TS]

00:29:17   i'm reading in the subtitle here [TS]

00:29:19   no I so they're not even speaking [TS]

00:29:21   english Jason it's a long time ago and I [TS]

00:29:23   don't fucking so it back to that bounty [TS]

00:29:25   hunter sounds like says that one word [TS]

00:29:27   over and over again that me has many [TS]

00:29:29   different meanings movie what I was [TS]

00:29:32   struck by listening to that process [TS]

00:29:34   voices you know carrie fisher's voice [TS]

00:29:36   now sounds actually exactly how much I [TS]

00:29:40   was gonna say she's got a couple lines [TS]

00:29:41   later in the movie where you like oh [TS]

00:29:43   that's the current day Carrie Fisher you [TS]

00:29:44   can only out she's been she's been [TS]

00:29:46   smoking a little bit there's a little [TS]

00:29:48   she was living hard a bit of a rascal [TS]

00:29:50   so did anybody know either because of [TS]

00:29:53   spoilers or because they figured it out [TS]

00:29:55   that was Princess Leia when they first [TS]

00:29:56   see there's no no no i don't know that i [TS]

00:29:59   can remember that sorry I'll rend i [TS]

00:30:02   noticed Lando and i noticed Lando giving [TS]

00:30:05   the bounty hunter like it and like it [TS]

00:30:08   hmm you're interesting [TS]

00:30:11   windows like to something was either [TS]

00:30:13   Luke or was laying it was like well I [TS]

00:30:15   had the only thing I remember picking up [TS]

00:30:16   was that both that was clearly trying to [TS]

00:30:18   pick up this bounty hunter so then I [TS]

00:30:19   love ya under its not bow [TS]

00:30:22   isn't that nice my favorite we call the [TS]

00:30:24   above fed nod [TS]

00:30:26   Oh was so cold though I I admire your [TS]

00:30:29   skills [TS]

00:30:30   nicely played it safe yes very clever [TS]

00:30:33   but you're no good for cocky this is my [TS]

00:30:36   arena but also be saying hey ladies and [TS]

00:30:38   so that tipped me off as a kid that [TS]

00:30:40   tipped me off that this is a female [TS]

00:30:42   bounty hunter but I in no way knew that [TS]

00:30:44   was Princess Leia because I was not very [TS]

00:30:45   smart as a child apparently but I so [TS]

00:30:48   this this is a great thing about these [TS]

00:30:49   movies that it was still bet it was back [TS]

00:30:52   when you could still be surprised about [TS]

00:30:53   stuff like this because even if I was [TS]

00:30:55   the same age in the modern era trailers [TS]

00:30:57   and stuff would have ruined it for me [TS]

00:30:59   because they always do and would have [TS]

00:31:01   revealed that that's Princess Leia but I [TS]

00:31:02   was totally surprised that this is this [TS]

00:31:04   ends up being Princess Leia I was even [TS]

00:31:06   surprised when he made the nodding like [TS]

00:31:07   a girl bounty hunter didn't sound like a [TS]

00:31:09   girl but you know they don't do that [TS]

00:31:11   much of a job hiding the fact that she's [TS]

00:31:13   built like a girl like you can see that [TS]

00:31:14   you have smaller and has helped you look [TS]

00:31:16   at her legs too [TS]

00:31:17   yeah right which I wasn't clearly doing [TS]

00:31:19   as a kid [TS]

00:31:20   yoto the highest compliment you can pay [TS]

00:31:25   someone in that language I'm just saying [TS]

00:31:26   it's also be the highest insult [TS]

00:31:29   so what is the that I've got some [TS]

00:31:31   strategy questions here for those of you [TS]

00:31:33   who know so much about this for my first [TS]

00:31:35   question is about job because they allow [TS]

00:31:37   even a java likes his hatzolah wall [TS]

00:31:40   hanging [TS]

00:31:41   they allow the this new bounty hunter [TS]

00:31:43   with a thermal detonator to sneak back [TS]

00:31:47   into the room later in the evening and [TS]

00:31:50   fallout han solo while they watch is [TS]

00:31:56   Lando part of that why i meant to look [TS]

00:31:59   and I forgot to look this time when I [TS]

00:32:02   was watching through but if he's gonna [TS]

00:32:04   get you out of low i kind of feel like [TS]

00:32:07   he almost tipped them off too [TS]

00:32:08   done like javas jobs good side and get [TS]

00:32:11   on the knowledge like i don't know i [TS]

00:32:14   mean i was thinkin away with it there [TS]

00:32:16   Dean they're out there right [TS]

00:32:18   I think it fits with job Java's it [TS]

00:32:21   strikes me as a practical jokester and [TS]

00:32:22   all the people hang out with him it's [TS]

00:32:24   kind of like an entourage hanging around [TS]

00:32:25   a celebrity yeah they're hanging out [TS]

00:32:26   because they want to like have fun and [TS]

00:32:28   do the board the board most of the time [TS]

00:32:30   in this palace that's why they drop the [TS]

00:32:31   slave girl down to the rank order to see [TS]

00:32:33   you good eating like me something to [TS]

00:32:34   detain them and this is pretty darn [TS]

00:32:35   entertaining like the guys are sneaking [TS]

00:32:37   in and taking out the thing and then we [TS]

00:32:38   catch them in the act and we throw him [TS]

00:32:39   into the sorrow I know and he's and he's [TS]

00:32:41   a bit cocky too right [TS]

00:32:43   it's like yeah whatever you guys think [TS]

00:32:45   it's gonna get freedom later [TS]

00:32:47   yeah it won't have to kill him against [TS]

00:32:49   like I caught him in carbonite and now I [TS]

00:32:50   get to kill him [TS]

00:32:51   bonus everything's coming up java ok so [TS]

00:32:55   my next I mean really the next 10 [TS]

00:32:57   minutes you have someone next strategy [TS]

00:32:58   question is they bring in chewy right [TS]

00:33:02   Chewie is brought in by the bounty [TS]

00:33:03   hunter and wen wen Han is thought out in [TS]

00:33:08   the end and Leia and Han Akkad and they [TS]

00:33:10   throw hon down into the into the hit but [TS]

00:33:12   a little bit Ranger well they decide [TS]

00:33:14   with chewy right so I have something [TS]

00:33:16   that I haven't thought of before is was [TS]

00:33:18   that there was that plan B was that [TS]

00:33:20   chewy would be there for him because [TS]

00:33:22   he's actually kind of protects on while [TS]

00:33:23   he's blind and all that did I mean I [TS]

00:33:25   suppose I'm trying to make a reason why [TS]

00:33:27   this incredible coincidence might make [TS]

00:33:30   sense but they're my plan basically flat [TS]

00:33:32   bar it's all a long con [TS]

00:33:34   I mean why why would the droids get sent [TS]

00:33:36   there are two with the lightsaber inside [TS]

00:33:40   of him me and that's right inside you [TS]

00:33:42   know it's it's all a complete long con [TS]

00:33:45   devised by luke and I would say also by [TS]

00:33:47   Lando and chewy as a way to get around i [TS]

00:33:51   don't think we're never getting out [TS]

00:33:53   well everything maybe we'll get out but [TS]

00:33:55   if not then we've got you know the next [TS]

00:33:57   circle and then we got the next circle [TS]

00:33:59   I don't take anything as a plan with [TS]

00:34:01   contingencies right they have they have [TS]

00:34:03   plan a plan B Plan C and plan B and Plan [TS]

00:34:05   B is our teachers got a lightsaber [TS]

00:34:07   inside them and recenter boots and [TS]

00:34:09   everything to explain something is our [TS]

00:34:10   duty to use it the lightsaber nobody [TS]

00:34:12   wants to see that and didn't did you [TS]

00:34:14   guys see scott Walker's 11 [TS]

00:34:15   I mean it was pretty much the same plot [TS]

00:34:17   yea RT has little sparkle thing he just [TS]

00:34:20   pretty well when playing outfits we go [TS]

00:34:22   dr. r2d2 suicide bomber he just played [TS]

00:34:24   the crap out of the home with you got [TS]

00:34:27   another moment that you don't ya [TS]

00:34:29   only the rancor survives speaking of [TS]

00:34:31   unfreezing i like how Harrison Ford [TS]

00:34:34   looks like a wet dishrag when it comes [TS]

00:34:35   out of that carbonite didn't just happen [TS]

00:34:37   like come out until i came here i am he [TS]

00:34:39   looks like someone shoot him up and spit [TS]

00:34:41   him out he does a great job shakes it [TS]

00:34:43   anyways to know that he doesn't have his [TS]

00:34:46   trademark fest pork-belly say he was [TS]

00:34:48   taken away from Dino wearing obviously [TS]

00:34:49   exactly just what he was wearing when he [TS]

00:34:51   got thrown in except i think they [TS]

00:34:52   actually tie his arms or something in an [TS]

00:34:54   empire which is not there but I i kinda [TS]

00:34:58   like he does a good job of sort of the [TS]

00:35:00   whole hibernation sickness thing and the [TS]

00:35:01   thing that always struck me and I could [TS]

00:35:02   never tell if it was a result of some [TS]

00:35:04   like a ATR looping or something is that [TS]

00:35:06   in that scene where they train with [TS]

00:35:07   chewy he's got that whole like I'm [TS]

00:35:09   alright and then the second time he says [TS]

00:35:11   it is voices like BAM alright O'Malia [TS]

00:35:13   he's like I'm all right tail [TS]

00:35:14   yeah they were good they have a tender [TS]

00:35:16   relationship in this movie i love i love [TS]

00:35:18   the relationship between shooting on [TS]

00:35:20   just one the edge of tears and that last [TS]

00:35:25   that last bit when he has been chilly is [TS]

00:35:27   holding him it's really cute so uh [TS]

00:35:31   top-10 romances so uh Luke Skywalker [TS]

00:35:35   finally appears in his robe [TS]

00:35:37   we've got the you know Luke has come a [TS]

00:35:39   long way last time we saw him on [TS]

00:35:41   Tatooine you know he was just this kid [TS]

00:35:42   who wanted to go to Tashi station to [TS]

00:35:44   pick up some power converters and now [TS]

00:35:46   he's got his robe and he's kind of a [TS]

00:35:48   badass and he force he forced jokes a [TS]

00:35:51   pig guard that's right to two of ya out [TS]

00:35:56   for a little island which is always [TS]

00:35:58   exciting friend it is a little little [TS]

00:36:00   bit of our society and older exercise [TS]

00:36:02   wear all black right i mean what bad [TS]

00:36:04   guys were black or good guys wear black [TS]

00:36:06   guys white right like all the [TS]

00:36:07   stormtroopers wear white [TS]

00:36:09   they got to be a for you guys you gotta [TS]

00:36:10   wear black just to differentiate [TS]

00:36:11   yourself i guess so so so any use of the [TS]

00:36:13   jedi mind trick to see force-choked [TS]

00:36:15   sandy uses the Jedi mind trick so [TS]

00:36:17   shocking thing is all is a little [TS]

00:36:19   interesting and I had a debate and [TS]

00:36:21   endless debate with my friend Evan as a [TS]

00:36:22   kid as to whether or not you know well [TS]

00:36:25   isn't that dark side and he replied no [TS]

00:36:27   no he just made them think they were [TS]

00:36:29   choked with Israel and help you to loved [TS]

00:36:32   but do you have any evidence that no but [TS]

00:36:34   I'm pretty sure that's true [TS]

00:36:35   I recall very clearly from what I [TS]

00:36:37   watched this movie the first time that [TS]

00:36:38   that seeing Luke in black and and very [TS]

00:36:42   serious it's a real you know it's a real [TS]

00:36:46   change like wow he's serious and it's [TS]

00:36:48   like he's walking the walk of being a [TS]

00:36:49   Jedi now and yet with the fourth [TS]

00:36:51   Shogun's also like well he's kinda scary [TS]

00:36:53   he and which is setting up the whole [TS]

00:36:55   could he be turned to the dark side [TS]

00:36:56   thing too and it's it's a big change [TS]

00:36:58   people his whole demeanor is so [TS]

00:37:00   different from Star Wars and empire [TS]

00:37:02   right and they doing I think you know a [TS]

00:37:04   lot of people not not Campbell but I [TS]

00:37:06   think he does a really good job of doing [TS]

00:37:07   that transition from you know that the [TS]

00:37:09   the farm boy and the first one to the [TS]

00:37:11   guy who sort of still impetuous and [TS]

00:37:13   brash and the second one but is sort of [TS]

00:37:14   calming down a little bit you know [TS]

00:37:16   also i love that they you know he was [TS]

00:37:18   great in the middle one right like to go [TS]

00:37:20   from white to gray black and the last [TS]

00:37:22   one he's pues extremely chill there are [TS]

00:37:24   a couple scenes where that facade brakes [TS]

00:37:26   a little bit but like for the most part [TS]

00:37:27   he does a really good job and I think [TS]

00:37:29   unfortunately that you know for better [TS]

00:37:31   or worse that his facial reconstruction [TS]

00:37:33   definitely makes him look older yeah and [TS]

00:37:36   you know this works with han han comes [TS]

00:37:38   out of the carbonite and he's like what [TS]

00:37:39   Luke saving us that guy that kid you [TS]

00:37:42   know who I saved twice and where we like [TS]

00:37:45   the audience are like Han lights blue [TS]

00:37:47   he's gonna say mostly he just got his [TS]

00:37:48   butt kicked by Vader and his hand [TS]

00:37:50   chopped off he sucks right well remember [TS]

00:37:52   that the last time that those two [TS]

00:37:54   characters saw each other is actually [TS]

00:37:55   the beginning of empire right right [TS]

00:37:57   where he was like saying you wanna come [TS]

00:37:59   into at on you know that the guy who's [TS]

00:38:01   gonna come save me i'm constantly saving [TS]

00:38:02   my god now we're really screwed so we [TS]

00:38:04   the audience feel the same way and it's [TS]

00:38:06   nice to see Luke kind of walk in he's [TS]

00:38:07   all calm and more like you know you [TS]

00:38:09   don't know like who is this guy whoever [TS]

00:38:11   lets on that this is plan D ya he really [TS]

00:38:14   you know these things calm even then [TS]

00:38:16   even the face of plans a B and CEO fail [TS]

00:38:18   every plant is planning a and one of the [TS]

00:38:20   nice cuts that they made is there is and [TS]

00:38:23   i think this is included on the Real on [TS]

00:38:25   the blu-ray edition there is an early [TS]

00:38:27   scene which shows you mean basically [TS]

00:38:29   like obi-wan's house building his [TS]

00:38:31   lightsaber yeah nothing says a dramatic [TS]

00:38:34   entrance to exactly i think the entrance [TS]

00:38:36   is much much better serve this way and [TS]

00:38:37   that's really not necessary plus the [TS]

00:38:39   whole thing like wait where is like like [TS]

00:38:41   he lost his lightsaber oh crap that's [TS]

00:38:42   why is like grabbed the gun from the guy [TS]

00:38:44   with his forceful there and I think it's [TS]

00:38:48   really interesting when he gets dropped [TS]

00:38:49   down into the rancor pit and strikes [TS]

00:38:52   javas higher that there's actually a few [TS]

00:38:55   moments where we get terrified farm boy [TS]

00:38:57   Luke when he realizes oh crap I'm up [TS]

00:38:59   against a giant monster but i like it i [TS]

00:39:02   like his plan and his plan is I'm gonna [TS]

00:39:04   let him pick me up [TS]

00:39:06   grab the bone let him bring me all the [TS]

00:39:07   way to us me that's a pretty risky plan [TS]

00:39:09   considered you know so even though he is [TS]

00:39:10   kinda like a giant rank are he execute a [TS]

00:39:13   plan that shows some confidence in the [TS]

00:39:16   abilities that constantly running away [TS]

00:39:17   his plan involves being brought right up [TS]

00:39:19   to the monsters mouth and stick in a [TS]

00:39:20   bone in it [TS]

00:39:21   yeah because he sees what happens that [TS]

00:39:22   guard finger looking good now yeah yeah [TS]

00:39:25   you know the pig guards by the way they [TS]

00:39:28   have a really lack in empathy because [TS]

00:39:30   one of one of their own guys falls into [TS]

00:39:32   the pit in there rootin for anything and [TS]

00:39:34   they laugh like humans do that to Jason [TS]

00:39:37   humans do that [TS]

00:39:38   oh it's that's well it's terrible going [TS]

00:39:40   to the Roman Colosseum it's horrible [TS]

00:39:42   shame on the pig guards we left out if I [TS]

00:39:45   left that I think I loved with the the [TS]

00:39:47   Han Solo when he first gets on frozen [TS]

00:39:50   and he's talking to you know he's got [TS]

00:39:51   the whole I know that laugh and the [TS]

00:39:54   turnaround i love that he starts talking [TS]

00:39:55   to the wall your return and Leia has to [TS]

00:39:58   drive around this is one of those it [TS]

00:40:00   undercuts at all a job [TS]

00:40:02   no no he's not over there [TS]

00:40:11   life hey job look at this job I was just [TS]

00:40:16   on my way to pay you back and I got a [TS]

00:40:17   little sidetrack it's not my fault [TS]

00:40:20   java update trip you're throwing away a [TS]

00:40:23   fortune here don't be a fool [TS]

00:40:24   princess Leia's famous a bikini makes [TS]

00:40:27   its appearance here too and I had all [TS]

00:40:29   exchange with somebody on Twitter the [TS]

00:40:31   other hand about and i'll say hear what [TS]

00:40:32   I said there which is for all the [TS]

00:40:34   pop-culture significance that Princess [TS]

00:40:36   Leia and her in her kind of bondage [TS]

00:40:39   chains bikini all that as a like [TS]

00:40:42   fabulous seminal the teenager but lost [TS]

00:40:50   object kind of thing whatever you know [TS]

00:40:52   it well as we said on our Empire podcast [TS]

00:40:55   and carrie fisher's way more attractive [TS]

00:40:56   in the Empire Strikes Back and here it's [TS]

00:40:58   it's really kind of creepy and and it's [TS]

00:41:00   not supposed to be nice she's in like a [TS]

00:41:03   slave and it's easy it's yucky so I just [TS]

00:41:06   thought I'd say that I was coming to Dan [TS]

00:41:08   the first shot we see of her in the in [TS]

00:41:11   the bikini is of her legs and ass as [TS]

00:41:15   it's a slow pan like we don't even we [TS]

00:41:17   see like the tail and then the bottom [TS]

00:41:19   half of Carrie Fisher like oh ok that's [TS]

00:41:22   a and objectively it's also just kind of [TS]

00:41:25   it's kind of a we're talking about the [TS]

00:41:27   tone of this movie again and that's [TS]

00:41:29   that's an odd choice to or a movie bet [TS]

00:41:32   as we were saying does seem to veer a [TS]

00:41:34   little more into the kid-friendly yeah [TS]

00:41:37   that's you know by far the most risque [TS]

00:41:38   this stores gets and the reason it [TS]

00:41:42   stands out is the kids who are into Star [TS]

00:41:44   Wars kind of hit them right at the time [TS]

00:41:46   where is a character that you knew it's [TS]

00:41:48   like it's like seeing the girl next door [TS]

00:41:49   in a bikini and I mean because he is the [TS]

00:41:51   person we knew for a long time and now [TS]

00:41:52   we're seeing skin just basically comes [TS]

00:41:54   down to that we're seeing more skin than [TS]

00:41:56   we saw in the previous movies but i [TS]

00:41:57   agree with Jason she is she's more [TS]

00:41:59   attractive and you're like yeah and it [TS]

00:42:01   only had no idea what's going on and [TS]

00:42:03   Carrie Fisher the actresses life during [TS]

00:42:04   this time she got her she's got her [TS]

00:42:06   cocaine body is real slow really Slim's [TS]

00:42:08   you down [TS]

00:42:09   she's not good and everything but she [TS]

00:42:11   also looks more of a mile lot it's the [TS]

00:42:14   mileage [TS]

00:42:14   yeah I also i also got to say that a [TS]

00:42:16   that this I had this I kept expecting a [TS]

00:42:20   couple shots that I realized were [TS]

00:42:22   because [TS]

00:42:23   I grew up watching this movie so many [TS]

00:42:25   times on my old pan and scan [TS]

00:42:27   oh yeah happy and so like there are [TS]

00:42:29   times where there's a scene where I well [TS]

00:42:31   during the rake or fights going on they [TS]

00:42:33   sort of you know go up cut up to the to [TS]

00:42:36   carry like struggling against you know a [TS]

00:42:38   struggle against the chain from java and [TS]

00:42:40   it's an in my recollection is always a [TS]

00:42:43   shot of salacious crumb and in a pan [TS]

00:42:45   over to c java and Leia and then [TS]

00:42:48   everytime i watch this on widescreen and [TS]

00:42:50   it's actually oh we can fit the whole [TS]

00:42:52   shot in there because i'm actually [TS]

00:42:53   watching a widescreen version of this [TS]

00:42:55   but it's so in your to me from my [TS]

00:42:57   childhood where it was just like that [TS]

00:42:59   was the copy i had was you know my VHS [TS]

00:43:01   copies from like the early nineties or [TS]

00:43:03   something [TS]

00:43:04   yeah I have that with a couple movies [TS]

00:43:06   from the eighties to similar thing it's [TS]

00:43:08   like you know if you watch the pan and [TS]

00:43:10   scan version a lot is Ghostbusters find [TS]

00:43:13   yourself wishing to raise the last are [TS]

00:43:15   going there lots of movies like that I [TS]

00:43:16   i'm expecting the pan and scan and I'm [TS]

00:43:18   reminded that it's not there anymore [TS]

00:43:20   that we're back to the movie as it was [TS]

00:43:22   made i got yeah it's good it's good to [TS]

00:43:25   the rancor in the I believe Roger Ebert [TS]

00:43:29   review of Return of the Jedi he has a a [TS]

00:43:31   great comment about the rancor being [TS]

00:43:33   killed and it and it's something that I [TS]

00:43:36   i laughed at when i read it because I I [TS]

00:43:37   I feel this way to the shirtless man who [TS]

00:43:42   is obviously the keeper and trainer of [TS]

00:43:44   the rancor beast is very sad almost [TS]

00:43:48   beside himself needs to be consoled when [TS]

00:43:50   he discovers that his beast has been [TS]

00:43:52   killed and what Hebert says about it is [TS]

00:43:55   it shows that even a monster has [TS]

00:43:57   somebody who loves it and I always loved [TS]

00:43:59   that it was a great great little see [TS]

00:44:00   that the guy is really upset because [TS]

00:44:02   it's his monster he won't really hard on [TS]

00:44:04   that monster and now it's dead and [TS]

00:44:06   that's really more a year jokey you know [TS]

00:44:08   type stuff where you like to think of [TS]

00:44:10   the trash compactor monster a new hope [TS]

00:44:12   all right there was some joking [TS]

00:44:14   involvement but when the trash compactor [TS]

00:44:15   monster was attacking and they were [TS]

00:44:17   escaping it was pretty darn serious you [TS]

00:44:19   know but here is now like you got to [TS]

00:44:21   have the gag line after the thing is [TS]

00:44:23   killed to show the guy laughing so that [TS]

00:44:25   that fits with the tone of this movie is [TS]

00:44:26   being held slightly more lighthearted [TS]

00:44:28   you know i love the I love the design of [TS]

00:44:31   the rank or two which is the one thing [TS]

00:44:32   another thing I notice is there's this [TS]

00:44:34   great little detail where when you sort [TS]

00:44:36   of bearing [TS]

00:44:37   down Luke and you seem sort of snarl and [TS]

00:44:39   embarrassed Heath or whatever you can [TS]

00:44:41   see that his forehead actually kind of [TS]

00:44:43   depresses it's fascinating little detail [TS]

00:44:46   and I think there's sort of a vague [TS]

00:44:48   illusion or foreshadowing there's like [TS]

00:44:50   that's basically right where the door [TS]

00:44:51   hit him when it comes down it's like [TS]

00:44:52   always got a soft spot on top of his [TS]

00:44:54   head but it's lovely little you if you [TS]

00:44:56   haven't seen it just go back and watch [TS]

00:44:57   that scene there's a little there's a [TS]

00:44:59   little clip where it's like he breathes [TS]

00:45:00   out and you see his forehead sort of a [TS]

00:45:02   concave there which is just it's it's a [TS]

00:45:04   throwaway thing that they just shows how [TS]

00:45:06   much energy and time they put into [TS]

00:45:08   creating these models which it i love [TS]

00:45:10   stop-motion drool stop-motion drool we [TS]

00:45:13   have a hanging from someone's got to [TS]

00:45:15   animate that piece of drool [TS]

00:45:16   I will say though that the am adding [TS]

00:45:19   compositing in the in the high def [TS]

00:45:22   version that is taken from the special [TS]

00:45:24   edition is vastly that but then I [TS]

00:45:27   remember that that's another shot is so [TS]

00:45:29   ingrained in me from watching years upon [TS]

00:45:31   years of the old VHS version is that [TS]

00:45:32   shot looks just like the leg of the [TS]

00:45:34   rancor and looks behind it and it seems [TS]

00:45:36   you have scales it's such a terrible [TS]

00:45:38   Matt but a it looks it looks it looks [TS]

00:45:40   pretty good actually in the the more [TS]

00:45:42   modern version so shall we move outside [TS]

00:45:44   to Jabba's Sail Barge where r2d2 was [TS]

00:45:46   previously assigned coincidentally party [TS]

00:45:49   barge nothing like having a floating [TS]

00:45:53   party over the sand on their weight as [TS]

00:45:57   certain prisoners death as the store [TS]

00:45:58   Olympic but we missed one that we missed [TS]

00:46:00   one of the great dialogue scenes that [TS]

00:46:01   which at which is one of my favorites of [TS]

00:46:03   all time which is the you know together [TS]

00:46:05   again yes [TS]

00:46:08   alright fine together again [TS]

00:46:14   would listen how we do it always that [TS]

00:46:18   bad huh [TS]

00:46:19   that scene starts to really push the [TS]

00:46:21   boundaries of how jokey we can be while [TS]

00:46:24   still taking things seriously and it [TS]

00:46:25   works mostly because of Harrison Ford's [TS]

00:46:27   charm and the lines are not bad but like [TS]

00:46:29   what every time i watch that now I [TS]

00:46:31   remember loving that seems so much about [TS]

00:46:33   the kid and I'm when I see it now i'm [TS]

00:46:35   likely they're really skirting the line [TS]

00:46:37   there was there you try it you know you [TS]

00:46:39   you wanted to wear your imagine John I'm [TS]

00:46:41   not a lot of come out like that the [TS]

00:46:43   lines nothing are fine it's just like [TS]

00:46:45   that's it that's almost as far as they [TS]

00:46:48   take the the tone into the [TS]

00:46:49   lightheartedness until we get to the [TS]

00:46:51   Ewoks so it doesn't bring me out of this [TS]

00:46:54   thing but it's kind of like it i take it [TS]

00:46:56   now is like kind of a little bit of [TS]

00:46:57   foreshadowing and i think i was this is [TS]

00:46:59   something I i found for watching this [TS]

00:47:01   movie over and over again as I've ages [TS]

00:47:03   that kids can handle shift in tone much [TS]

00:47:05   more easily than or at least I could [TS]

00:47:07   when I was a kid much more than adults [TS]

00:47:09   like these kids you can have a movie [TS]

00:47:10   with incredibly dramatic scenes which [TS]

00:47:12   the kids will take totally seriously and [TS]

00:47:14   ridiculous you know humor scenes in the [TS]

00:47:16   whole giant range and adults want some [TS]

00:47:18   consistency of tone otherwise they're [TS]

00:47:20   like what kind of movie am I watching [TS]

00:47:21   here and so I i found that i delighted [TS]

00:47:24   in this movie when i saw it as a kid and [TS]

00:47:27   the shift in tone didn't bother me at [TS]

00:47:28   all and now I can kind of see the seams [TS]

00:47:30   between the transitions of we're ok now [TS]

00:47:32   we're gonna take this seriously and now [TS]

00:47:33   we're going to be joking uh see them a [TS]

00:47:35   little bit more now than I did when I [TS]

00:47:36   was a kid [TS]

00:47:37   well this whole set piece at the [TS]

00:47:38   beginning to write is very it's clearly [TS]

00:47:42   demarcated from the rest of the movie [TS]

00:47:44   you know you've got sort of that briefly [TS]

00:47:46   brief opening scene with darth vader own [TS]

00:47:47   on the Death Star and then you kind of [TS]

00:47:49   forgot about that she gets to Tatooine [TS]

00:47:51   and the whole thing on Tatooine is this [TS]

00:47:53   great sort of you know like we're saying [TS]

00:47:55   action adventure ii serial type things [TS]

00:47:58   like Indiana Jones movie really yeah [TS]

00:47:59   it's a little bit like an Indiana Jones [TS]

00:48:01   movie and there's some there's some [TS]

00:48:02   really fantastic scenes and like sort of [TS]

00:48:04   taken as itself you know i think it's [TS]

00:48:06   it's really internally [TS]

00:48:08   this is consistent but yeah then when [TS]

00:48:10   you sort of shift to other places and [TS]

00:48:12   you always need as we'll talk a little [TS]

00:48:14   bit about the structure but like [TS]

00:48:15   directly after this right we're sort of [TS]

00:48:16   taken to another you know palate [TS]

00:48:18   cleanser scene with the Empire before we [TS]

00:48:20   get into a really dramatic see but yeah [TS]

00:48:22   the whole i love this whole section if [TS]

00:48:24   only because i love the whole skiff back [TS]

00:48:27   always we're about to discuss yes the [TS]

00:48:28   skiff battle it's it's great it's so [TS]

00:48:31   well done [TS]

00:48:31   r2d2 is is delivering drinks he has a [TS]

00:48:34   drink platter tied to his head and he's [TS]

00:48:37   a man of many talents you do also have [TS]

00:48:39   you have this scene [TS]

00:48:40   this is like the final bit where I I [TS]

00:48:43   remember loving this is a given Luke [TS]

00:48:44   gets up there is on the end of the plank [TS]

00:48:46   that's great you know a good puppy kind [TS]

00:48:49   of face is gonna make him walk the plank [TS]

00:48:50   they going to think and he's like this [TS]

00:48:52   is your last job chance job of free us [TS]

00:48:54   or die and like at that point like come [TS]

00:48:55   on is he serious is he seemed so [TS]

00:48:58   confident like don't you realize you're [TS]

00:49:00   about to be pushed into the pit with the [TS]

00:49:01   monster and you and everything has gone [TS]

00:49:04   well how did you think this was going to [TS]

00:49:05   be like a push through Skywalker off and [TS]

00:49:07   he's dead that's the end of the movie [TS]

00:49:09   it reminded me of a doctor who too [TS]

00:49:11   because that was I think with david [TS]

00:49:12   tennant especially that was like a thing [TS]

00:49:14   that you always you always get my which [TS]

00:49:15   I I suppose I suppose it's probably [TS]

00:49:18   inspired by this but it's that heroes [TS]

00:49:21   moment of like all right I'm gonna give [TS]

00:49:23   you I'm gonna destroy you [TS]

00:49:25   unless you change your ways I'm giving [TS]

00:49:27   you a chance [TS]

00:49:28   yeah he gives him so many chances but I [TS]

00:49:30   didn't believe him as a kid and as a kid [TS]

00:49:31   I said but Luke you can't your you can't [TS]

00:49:34   get out of this Luke you don't you [TS]

00:49:36   understand why is he so confident why is [TS]

00:49:38   confident Luke yeah why it looks so [TS]

00:49:40   confident in DCM higher when he got his [TS]

00:49:41   butt kicked [TS]

00:49:42   and that makes is that makes this [TS]

00:49:44   triumph in this thing all the more [TS]

00:49:45   satisfying you can like he was serious [TS]

00:49:47   he did do it you know like he knew it [TS]

00:49:49   was gonna be all right all along he's [TS]

00:49:51   not that simple [TS]

00:49:52   he's not a kid anymore right he's not [TS]

00:49:53   confident general about and i love the [TS]

00:49:56   musical cue here which is one of my [TS]

00:49:57   favorite Star Wars music you don't have [TS]

00:49:59   all three movies it all perfectly time [TS]

00:50:01   to build that suspension and then you [TS]

00:50:03   sort of go into the heroic theme from [TS]

00:50:05   there and I love you know there's so [TS]

00:50:07   much to love about this entire segment [TS]

00:50:08   of the movie I love this sort of yeah [TS]

00:50:11   again we're sort of veer into the comic [TS]

00:50:12   Jackie to orlando gets thrown you know [TS]

00:50:15   off the skiff and you slide down [TS]

00:50:16   saturday and honestly you're trying to [TS]

00:50:18   get them out and i think that works so [TS]

00:50:20   well here because then you're as soon as [TS]

00:50:22   the music starts playing and swing in [TS]

00:50:24   that green lights around like a baseball [TS]

00:50:25   bat you're like if your kids always like [TS]

00:50:27   you're so big smile on your face you [TS]

00:50:29   can't steam saying your seat and here we [TS]

00:50:30   go really fits with like the you know I [TS]

00:50:33   I thought you were blind all that stuff [TS]

00:50:34   going on totally works with the scene [TS]

00:50:36   because you just that's like the the [TS]

00:50:37   release the joyous crescendo this entire [TS]

00:50:39   sequence [TS]

00:50:40   the boba fett dying without guys like a [TS]

00:50:44   chump doesn't like Jim not i'm not a [TS]

00:50:46   great way mr. wilhelm scream and he's [TS]

00:50:48   going to deserve better and by the way [TS]

00:50:49   this movie has the it will help screens [TS]

00:50:51   that are the farthest front and the mix [TS]

00:50:53   in any movie I can ever recall getting [TS]

00:50:55   there multiple ones of them and it's [TS]

00:50:57   like be dominant sounds like you know in [TS]

00:50:59   the background while had a couple [TS]

00:51:00   Wilhelm's they have like no I think it's [TS]

00:51:01   three times or two times they do a full [TS]

00:51:03   frontal Wilhelm that this is the main [TS]

00:51:06   audio you are hearing every piece of it [TS]

00:51:08   the loudest thing in the scene then [TS]

00:51:11   purchase want to make sure it got [TS]

00:51:12   recognize another so there's a comical [TS]

00:51:14   belt that's the second one in the movie [TS]

00:51:16   too so far there's the there's the one [TS]

00:51:19   outside a little frog outside of Jabba's [TS]

00:51:21   palace that eats a shower right burps [TS]

00:51:24   yeah and i think that the green light [TS]

00:51:26   saver like again going to the movie i [TS]

00:51:28   had no idea Luke's lightsaber would be [TS]

00:51:30   green because as far as i know he lost [TS]

00:51:31   his lightsaber it's just green it's like [TS]

00:51:34   a hundred percent green but it's such a [TS]

00:51:36   an iconic image from my childhood of [TS]

00:51:38   cinema like Luke with the green [TS]

00:51:40   lightsaber equals return of the jedi and [TS]

00:51:42   it it it works so well in a palette that [TS]

00:51:44   was the you know it's andy it's brown [TS]

00:51:46   there in the dark and Jabba's palace and [TS]

00:51:48   now you have this neon green thing [TS]

00:51:50   slicing through people and it's thicker [TS]

00:51:51   this is getting a little Freudian it's [TS]

00:51:53   thicker and bigger than then like the [TS]

00:51:56   the blue one is that especially Justin [TS]

00:51:58   but it's more of a broadsword than yeah [TS]

00:52:00   well it's gonna be like her own [TS]

00:52:02   lightsaber why you gonna get it right [TS]

00:52:04   well but it's special effects though [TS]

00:52:05   because they begin the new hope they had [TS]

00:52:07   like you know rods with beads on them [TS]

00:52:09   they were spinning and they would shine [TS]

00:52:10   lights in them and then an empire they [TS]

00:52:12   had I don't know if they still use that [TS]

00:52:14   effect but it was like skinnier looking [TS]

00:52:16   but by this time they had the Rose [TS]

00:52:17   coping stuff down there like no this is [TS]

00:52:19   gonna be a like a man slice here well [TS]

00:52:22   and you know worth bearing out the [TS]

00:52:24   special effects in this movie are in [TS]

00:52:25   many ways better than although so much [TS]

00:52:27   about it i'm going to say that some I [TS]

00:52:29   thought I'd Empire someone Empire stuff [TS]

00:52:31   is better [TS]

00:52:32   yeah that's what we want to assistant [TS]

00:52:33   because you don't have all the yeah [TS]

00:52:35   really many tries stuff they try things [TS]

00:52:38   here that there were just a little bit [TS]

00:52:39   beyond their abilities where's Empire [TS]

00:52:40   was in the sweet spot where they went [TS]

00:52:42   beyond a new hope but everything they [TS]

00:52:43   did they executed like very very well in [TS]

00:52:46   this their kind of things to execute so [TS]

00:52:48   what that at the flip side there are a [TS]

00:52:50   couple things like its space battle at [TS]

00:52:52   the end which are just amazing which is [TS]

00:52:53   still [TS]

00:52:54   are still unbeaten in my opinion don't [TS]

00:52:56   we also get a great call back to the [TS]

00:52:58   original movie here where Luke and Leia [TS]

00:53:00   are swinging on a rope again which I [TS]

00:53:02   really liked which is attached to what [TS]

00:53:04   it's attached i figured this out when I [TS]

00:53:06   was a kid with a lot to me too [TS]

00:53:07   alright here's what they're trying to [TS]

00:53:09   say where it's attached to this would be [TS]

00:53:10   like to be a pain having a barge right a [TS]

00:53:12   sail barge has a has a cloth roof thing [TS]

00:53:15   and the claw through thing extend out [TS]

00:53:17   past the edges of the sail barge so this [TS]

00:53:19   is one of the ropes that was attached to [TS]

00:53:20   the cloth things that he disengaged so i [TS]

00:53:22   can grow your diagram from but it [TS]

00:53:24   doesn't quite work with the distances [TS]

00:53:26   involved but it gives you something [TS]

00:53:28   it looks good up until that last shot [TS]

00:53:30   where they land on the little skittish [TS]

00:53:31   this too far holding it and the angles [TS]

00:53:33   wrong and it's just like a break 408 [TS]

00:53:35   degree line that's the issue [TS]

00:53:37   yeah i mean it's it's way too far away [TS]

00:53:39   and doesn't quite work as attached some [TS]

00:53:41   piece of writing on the set but at least [TS]

00:53:42   there's something hanging it will share [TS]

00:53:44   between them and the thing that's the [TS]

00:53:47   sort of the with a lightsaber thing i [TS]

00:53:49   like to point out that it apparently is [TS]

00:53:51   quite the bludgeoning weapon as yeah [TS]

00:53:53   with it and they just fall off the skin [TS]

00:53:55   instead of getting like cleaved and a [TS]

00:53:56   half is not so much slicing in these [TS]

00:53:59   movies because it easy supposed to be a [TS]

00:54:00   good guy and he was dismembering people [TS]

00:54:02   left and right and plus it i think the [TS]

00:54:03   trees on the lower setting guys I mean [TS]

00:54:05   is he added on-site sharp [TS]

00:54:07   yeah i think it's basically because the [TS]

00:54:09   special effects required to make a [TS]

00:54:10   lightsaber actually slice people up [TS]

00:54:12   didn't exist at the time would have been [TS]

00:54:13   tremendously expensive it's much cheaper [TS]

00:54:14   to have a stunt guy fall out right [TS]

00:54:16   yeah although we do have only one in the [TS]

00:54:18   first movie slicing that guy's well we [TS]

00:54:19   don't see that we just had we see slice [TS]

00:54:22   and then we see rubber arm falling [TS]

00:54:23   fluorine is a little bit more with blood [TS]

00:54:25   with blood pouring out which makes this [TS]

00:54:27   and it's wrong and anyway this is my [TS]

00:54:30   grass loot look at shot in the arm here [TS]

00:54:33   and and it's that moment then said is [TS]

00:54:34   setting up a later moment but it's that [TS]

00:54:36   it's that haha mechanical arm remember [TS]

00:54:39   an adult like that yet like so do we [TS]

00:54:41   know somebody else has got lots of [TS]

00:54:43   mechanical parts [TS]

00:54:44   mm don't dwell on a nice little bit yeah [TS]

00:54:46   that they just set it up right just a [TS]

00:54:48   setup [TS]

00:54:48   that's what's nice about it is it's [TS]

00:54:50   kinda subtle like they showed a couple [TS]

00:54:52   times you're like oh yeah is that [TS]

00:54:53   mechanical hand could guys hand cut off [TS]

00:54:55   and so I think that the payoff on it is [TS]

00:54:57   then is an excellent because you're not [TS]

00:54:59   really thinking about it in that [TS]

00:55:01   direction if you [TS]

00:55:04   large if you want to start blowing up by [TS]

00:55:06   the way down because i'm watching that [TS]

00:55:07   the pits the more you watch yourself [TS]

00:55:08   hard blow up you can see that the thing [TS]

00:55:10   that he was swinging from standing out a [TS]

00:55:12   little bit on it they don't think this [TS]

00:55:13   thing that i'm reminded of is when a [TS]

00:55:15   bubblehead meets his said and I not [TS]

00:55:18   right before right before he does [TS]

00:55:20   consoles as Boba Fett and then he says [TS]

00:55:21   but that we're and I for the longest [TS]

00:55:24   time when I was a kid whose father being [TS]

00:55:25   it doesn't bother me as much now but I [TS]

00:55:27   still think about it he says boba fett [TS]

00:55:29   twice and they just replayed the same [TS]

00:55:31   set of him saying both that twice yeah [TS]

00:55:34   yep they didn't have a set of time I [TS]

00:55:37   also I'll interject with one of my as I [TS]

00:55:39   as I want to do there are a couple lines [TS]

00:55:41   i like a lot I i like better in the in [TS]

00:55:43   the radio drama version of Jedi for [TS]

00:55:46   example i really enjoy you don't want [TS]

00:55:48   your Mariette ID it's not legal in this [TS]

00:55:50   state yet but i really enjoy that when [TS]

00:55:54   when Hans hanging over and he liked [TS]

00:55:57   lowers the blaster to shoot the [TS]

00:55:58   technical describing Lando and let the [TS]

00:56:00   way that you were blind in the radio [TS]

00:56:02   drama there's a scene because it's [TS]

00:56:03   alright i could see a lot better now [TS]

00:56:08   I was the [TS]

00:56:10   that explosion is really large to i [TS]

00:56:12   wonder if there's like a plan [TS]

00:56:14   hey which was well and everything goes [TS]

00:56:17   really badly and it looks like we're [TS]

00:56:18   gonna die [TS]

00:56:19   we've lined job the sale barn they've [TS]

00:56:21   actually just put on two droids with [TS]

00:56:23   explosive lab orange things because [TS]

00:56:26   animal detonators just explode really [TS]

00:56:28   big again it doesn't go up a little bit [TS]

00:56:30   it goes up a lot [TS]

00:56:32   that's a highly flammable it wouldn't [TS]

00:56:34   pass inspection no wonder to java is [TS]

00:56:37   like kerosene that lives outside the law [TS]

00:56:39   yeah because that's a lot of interests [TS]

00:56:41   we left out that uh that lady gets to [TS]

00:56:44   delete deliver the killing blow [TS]

00:56:46   now on Jabba the Hutt but she still [TS]

00:56:48   feisty one [TS]

00:56:49   yeah we've got her I mean it's nice they [TS]

00:56:51   do center a nice parallel job with on [TS]

00:56:54   trying to rescue Lando who's kicking [TS]

00:56:55   everybody's ass and I'm incidentally i [TS]

00:56:57   also love the little judo flip that the [TS]

00:56:59   judo when he jumps onto the sail barge [TS]

00:57:02   and the world or pops up [TS]

00:57:04   there's a guy there and he's like [TS]

00:57:05   clinging on with one hand he's just like [TS]

00:57:06   a let me just put this guy out this [TS]

00:57:07   window here and lay gets to strangle [TS]

00:57:10   jabba the hut with your chain with a [TS]

00:57:11   chain [TS]

00:57:12   yeah put me in Chains I'll show you [TS]

00:57:15   so moving on let's leave Tatooine behind [TS]

00:57:19   and we've got the arrival of the Emperor [TS]

00:57:22   at the new Death Star because again the [TS]

00:57:26   Emperor not a not just sending Darth [TS]

00:57:28   Vader to check up on on what's going on [TS]

00:57:31   with the Death Star he's actually his [TS]

00:57:33   advance man and the the Emperor is going [TS]

00:57:36   to make his own appearance and set up [TS]

00:57:37   shop in the under-construction death [TS]

00:57:40   star where you get this really [TS]

00:57:43   spectacular you know it's some actors [TS]

00:57:47   and mostly matte painting of these [TS]

00:57:49   stormtroopers and other people assembled [TS]

00:57:52   by the hundreds on the shuttlebay to [TS]

00:57:55   welcome be welcomed the Emperor to the [TS]

00:57:58   to the death star with his Red Guard [TS]

00:58:00   with the record i love the Red Guards so [TS]

00:58:03   much as even at the time I was like whoa [TS]

00:58:04   who are those guys and they don't really [TS]

00:58:06   do anything they're just kind of present [TS]

00:58:08   their the Imperial Guard but i always [TS]

00:58:10   loved them and this is another place [TS]

00:58:12   where my son exclaimed oh those guys are [TS]

00:58:15   so hard to kill in like a star wars' [TS]

00:58:18   right but but I remember as a kid I was [TS]

00:58:19   enthralled by the red it's like wait a [TS]

00:58:21   second [TS]

00:58:22   these are stormtroopers he's like these [TS]

00:58:24   scary here that's like the Red Guards [TS]

00:58:26   with they stay with the Emperor and I [TS]

00:58:28   like the other I like his little advisor [TS]

00:58:30   guys you never get much to do kinda look [TS]

00:58:32   like rejects from like Wizard of Oz or [TS]

00:58:33   something now the pale they've got like [TS]

00:58:35   a purple yeah the purple face painting [TS]

00:58:37   like crazy like Russian hats and stuff [TS]

00:58:39   like that and again with the red with [TS]

00:58:41   the red guys they waited three movies [TS]

00:58:42   they had a two movies full [TS]

00:58:44   black-and-white stormtroopers basically [TS]

00:58:45   and waited waited to the last movie to [TS]

00:58:48   pull out the red dudes and they're all [TS]

00:58:49   the more dramatic for it i also like [TS]

00:58:51   they do a good job we were talking about [TS]

00:58:53   the with this the hangar basing again is [TS]

00:58:56   that they set up for you [TS]

00:58:58   there's an isolette go back to the [TS]

00:58:59   opening shot where Darth Vader shows up [TS]

00:59:01   and there's like a bunch of storm [TS]

00:59:02   troopers and officers lined up and [TS]

00:59:03   really excited and when the Emperor [TS]

00:59:04   shows up everybody turns everybody there [TS]

00:59:07   like so we got tonight we've got like a [TS]

00:59:08   perspective for you thought you thought [TS]

00:59:10   there are a bunch of people waiting for [TS]

00:59:11   a guy to get off the shuttle last time [TS]

00:59:13   you ain't seen nothing yet although you [TS]

00:59:15   get this is the invaders appearances [TS]

00:59:17   like a snap inspection or it's like oh [TS]

00:59:18   jeez were there checking up on us [TS]

00:59:20   whereas with the Emperor it's like the [TS]

00:59:22   Pope coming to visit somewhere it's like [TS]

00:59:24   everybody's gonna be clean and in line [TS]

00:59:26   and we're all gonna be here for the [TS]

00:59:28   uppercut also had warning over the [TS]

00:59:30   Emperor yes peter has said or we'll [TS]

00:59:32   never get here you've got Vader kneeling [TS]

00:59:35   again just like an empire we have a big [TS]

00:59:37   tough guy from New Hope who all his boss [TS]

00:59:40   makes him scared so he's gonna kneel on [TS]

00:59:41   the hologram think talk to him an empire [TS]

00:59:43   and then here at when emperor comes down [TS]

00:59:45   the little ramp from his shuttle better [TS]

00:59:47   is sitting there kneeling already with [TS]

00:59:48   his head down you know and God and you [TS]

00:59:52   know what's interesting I remember as a [TS]

00:59:53   kid thinking like you know Darth Vader [TS]

00:59:55   is is outwardly right [TS]

00:59:56   the really scary one but the Emperor [TS]

00:59:59   because he's big [TS]

00:59:59   because he's big [TS]

01:00:00   you can Hawking and he seems like he's [TS]

01:00:01   really impressive and we see him fight a [TS]

01:00:02   lot and the Emperor is like this wizened [TS]

01:00:05   old little man right and i think that [TS]

01:00:08   the the contrast there is really [TS]

01:00:10   interesting and you do get this sort of [TS]

01:00:13   I don't know is it anti-climactic when [TS]

01:00:15   you see the Emperor come and be like oh [TS]

01:00:17   he's just like an old dude until he [TS]

01:00:19   delivers a line because all these yams [TS]

01:00:21   are delivered with so much venom and [TS]

01:00:23   evil it just oozes from as far as I'm [TS]

01:00:25   ever been freaked out by the Emperor [TS]

01:00:27   when I was a girl he's scared the crap [TS]

01:00:29   out of me was I couldn't even look at [TS]

01:00:30   the action figure but I you know super [TS]

01:00:34   credit to even McDermott who you know [TS]

01:00:35   you know does show up in some other [TS]

01:00:37   movies later that but uh it wasn't even [TS]

01:00:40   that old this one [TS]

01:00:41   yeah well that's the thing is I was you [TS]

01:00:42   always look at him and think like oh my [TS]

01:00:44   god he must be like the super old guy [TS]

01:00:45   but he was probably is like 30 days at [TS]

01:00:47   that point just made us to be hideously [TS]

01:00:49   doesn't fan-tastic job [TS]

01:00:52   I mean you know he sells that he's [TS]

01:00:54   another one like so oily like he's just [TS]

01:00:56   a professional right he's just like BAM [TS]

01:00:58   all right you all the evil like you know [TS]

01:01:00   guy fine [TS]

01:01:01   sign me up i'll do it like you know it's [TS]

01:01:04   my job is one of the few actors who can [TS]

01:01:07   really hone both speech and eyes where [TS]

01:01:11   it's just you're constantly looking into [TS]

01:01:13   the Emperor's eyes with every single [TS]

01:01:14   word he says and you're like oh god [TS]

01:01:16   please stop looking at me and its [TS]

01:01:19   delivery is very kind of affected but [TS]

01:01:21   like you know he doesn't just read the [TS]

01:01:22   lines he did I don't know if he decided [TS]

01:01:24   he was directed in this manner but it's [TS]

01:01:26   a character just based on the voice you [TS]

01:01:28   can have the Emperor read the back of a [TS]

01:01:29   cereal box and you would notice the [TS]

01:01:31   Emperor saying it because of the way he [TS]

01:01:32   says everything like is hit the choices [TS]

01:01:35   of how he enunciates words and what he [TS]

01:01:37   emphasizes and his cadence is distinctly [TS]

01:01:40   Emperor's almost and not a comic book a [TS]

01:01:42   cartoon kind of way but but in a [TS]

01:01:44   slightly heightened more than reality [TS]

01:01:46   type of way and that can very quickly go [TS]

01:01:48   into silly parody where you sound like a [TS]

01:01:51   buffoonish villain up that avoids and I [TS]

01:01:53   think that's avoided entirely this movie [TS]

01:01:55   is just scary and creeping and yes so [TS]

01:01:58   distinct from his brief appearance and [TS]

01:02:00   empire right because it's a totally [TS]

01:02:01   different actor and it's a fake and hows [TS]

01:02:03   it face and everything and I remember be [TS]

01:02:06   that being very confusing when I was a [TS]

01:02:08   kid as like I could tell the difference [TS]

01:02:10   right kid he looked totally different [TS]

01:02:11   than makeup was different the boy [TS]

01:02:13   so the and the sound is this the the [TS]

01:02:15   sound of his voices is so different that [TS]

01:02:17   it is like you know you have to again [TS]

01:02:19   with the rationalization wanted to get [TS]

01:02:20   just that much more evil between the [TS]

01:02:22   louisiana right exactly a deterrence [TS]

01:02:25   they tried he tried to get out of the [TS]

01:02:26   field to send a clear transmission but [TS]

01:02:27   there was still some problems [TS]

01:02:29   yeah sugar is the second ingredient my [TS]

01:02:32   young jedi these cheerios are suitable [TS]

01:02:36   for you haha i was trying to do the [TS]

01:02:39   Emperor reading a cereal box anyway um [TS]

01:02:42   should we move on to Yoda notice notice [TS]

01:02:46   you but it's just trying to get some [TS]

01:02:48   sleep and maybe die and and Luke just [TS]

01:02:50   keeps on bugging him and you cannot [TS]

01:02:53   watch this movie a lot when I was [TS]

01:02:54   growing up [TS]

01:02:55   simply because i hated watching video [TS]

01:02:57   dying see yeah he's he's a lot [TS]

01:03:00   um yeah he homered in this one although [TS]

01:03:02   i did my favorite part of the other [TS]

01:03:04   sequences talk he's he's mellow he's [TS]

01:03:05   dying he's talking to Luke or whatever [TS]

01:03:07   and then Lucas so I am a Jedi and yours [TS]

01:03:09   micro haha now are you have right that's [TS]

01:03:11   nice try kid and then the old yoda-like [TS]

01:03:14   he's buried in areas like coughing and [TS]

01:03:16   sputtering tyrick yeah that's my Empire [TS]

01:03:18   Yoda no more training do you require I [TS]

01:03:21   struck me as being like well that's [TS]

01:03:22   awfully sudden wasn't it just here [TS]

01:03:24   screwing up and he ran off and now we [TS]

01:03:26   doesn't need anymore even sense that we [TS]

01:03:28   just saw what he's capable of Vienna has [TS]

01:03:30   been doing some studying work at home [TS]

01:03:32   that it can i come effects work at home [TS]

01:03:34   he's got he's got the the correspondence [TS]

01:03:36   course in july four anyway i think i [TS]

01:03:38   think the university of phoenix offers a [TS]

01:03:40   Jedi correspondence course yeah but [TS]

01:03:42   that's my so I am a Jedi and then he [TS]

01:03:44   gets put in this place one last time [TS]

01:03:46   before Yoda fades away [TS]

01:03:48   well I also really enjoy yoga being we'd [TS]

01:03:50   see you're being evasive right when he's [TS]

01:03:52   like yea though you know is Darth Vader [TS]

01:03:54   my dad you know yeah I need a nap then I [TS]

01:03:57   just started my sleep and i will [TS]

01:03:59   probably die so I don't have to answer [TS]

01:04:01   your awkward questions i like the fact [TS]

01:04:04   that he's looking away from from locally [TS]

01:04:06   at the camera on your energy looking [TS]

01:04:08   away from you told you he did [TS]

01:04:09   unexpected this bloody nose like that [TS]

01:04:11   that's a good he gets to have he gets to [TS]

01:04:13   have one more feisty scene where he [TS]

01:04:15   lasted looking as a Jedi gets to have [TS]

01:04:17   one more gravely serious scene where [TS]

01:04:18   he's kind of talking to himself and look [TS]

01:04:20   at the same time so even his brief [TS]

01:04:22   appearance here we get the the full [TS]

01:04:24   range of yoda well at the scene as a [TS]

01:04:27   hole is fantastic because i love you [TS]

01:04:29   know we start with sort of the is the [TS]

01:04:31   interplay with Luke and Yoda in terms of [TS]

01:04:33   him watching Yoda and Yoda's like I see [TS]

01:04:37   you know you're making faces [TS]

01:04:38   yeah I'm getting old and I again I think [TS]

01:04:41   handle does a really good job of selling [TS]

01:04:42   this sort of you know sadness of seeing [TS]

01:04:45   someone who is that you know your mentor [TS]

01:04:47   ass away basically you know waste away [TS]

01:04:50   in front of your eyes and and this you [TS]

01:04:53   know there's a lot of emotional weight [TS]

01:04:55   for this scene here which I think holds [TS]

01:04:57   up pretty well I mean as a kid you know [TS]

01:04:59   your sort of sad for the abstract reason [TS]

01:05:01   that always dying and dying is sad but [TS]

01:05:04   you know sort of it holds up as an adult [TS]

01:05:08   to watch it in sort of you know think [TS]

01:05:09   about the implications of of your [TS]

01:05:11   passing on here and I think it's [TS]

01:05:12   remarkably affecting for a scene again [TS]

01:05:14   performed by a guy using a puppet you [TS]

01:05:18   know AI think that the yoda the the you [TS]

01:05:21   know the yoda that we see here is it's [TS]

01:05:23   still so much more powerful than the [TS]

01:05:25   yoda that we see in any event any other [TS]

01:05:27   movies that might exist or might not [TS]

01:05:29   exist [TS]

01:05:30   I just I don't know I think you know [TS]

01:05:32   Frank Oz does a fantastic job here as he [TS]

01:05:34   did an empire and and yet manages to do [TS]

01:05:36   such a stink job as as John saying like [TS]

01:05:39   it is a little there are some throwbacks [TS]

01:05:41   here to empire but at the same time this [TS]

01:05:43   is a different side of Yoda in some way [TS]

01:05:45   he said he doesn't he dies and fade to [TS]

01:05:49   win which at this point I remember [TS]

01:05:51   expecting him to fade away yeah like [TS]

01:05:53   he's gonna fade away like hope you want [TS]

01:05:55   and a lot of great another great musical [TS]

01:05:57   cue here yeah that when the fate of the [TS]

01:05:59   fadeaway happens is that like a lot of [TS]

01:06:01   lot of the music here i think does a [TS]

01:06:03   really good job of enhancing the action [TS]

01:06:07   and said and I guess the unkind [TS]

01:06:09   description would be that it's very on [TS]

01:06:11   the nose but i think it works for the [TS]

01:06:13   most part it it's you know it's like [TS]

01:06:16   it's like a musical salt it is it [TS]

01:06:19   changes the flavor by when it works it [TS]

01:06:21   really works like when you get [TS]

01:06:22   everything behind as many other later [TS]

01:06:23   seen the movie regions like the musical [TS]

01:06:25   cues line up exactly with the dramatic [TS]

01:06:26   things and that can be hokey but not [TS]

01:06:28   when your music is this good and the [TS]

01:06:30   moment works that it just it just makes [TS]

01:06:32   it even better [TS]

01:06:33   did you know Two and also you know to [TS]

01:06:35   the credit of our camera once again I [TS]

01:06:36   really that last bit you know [TS]

01:06:38   we're Yoda's ok that is at yeah you know [TS]

01:06:43   which took me as a kid I was like [TS]

01:06:45   there's another fly flopper thanks [TS]

01:06:49   another butterflies water i was that I [TS]

01:06:51   was hanging on that because i know there [TS]

01:06:53   is another with the red lights from the [TS]

01:06:54   take what's the other yeah yeah I was [TS]

01:06:56   waiting years to find out what it wants [TS]

01:06:58   it [TS]

01:06:59   you know that i love handle the rambles [TS]

01:07:01   reaction shot there where he's like he's [TS]

01:07:02   like sitting on every word and then it [TS]

01:07:04   takes a second for him to realize oh he [TS]

01:07:07   just died like your head after he gave [TS]

01:07:10   me this group but you can sort of see it [TS]

01:07:11   in his eyes widen and just be like oh oh [TS]

01:07:15   crap you know like and I think that's [TS]

01:07:17   just a that's a [TS]

01:07:18   it's another remarkably powerful shot [TS]

01:07:20   there so after the drama of Yoda and his [TS]

01:07:24   final words [TS]

01:07:26   Luke is preparing his x-wing to take off [TS]

01:07:29   and he gets a visit from ghost obi-wan [TS]

01:07:31   Kenobi story story time with Uncle Ben [TS]

01:07:33   and he managed for some reason you [TS]

01:07:35   wouldn't think that ghosts potato days [TS]

01:07:36   for schools you continue to age well it [TS]

01:07:39   turns out and he sits on a log coming [TS]

01:07:42   log because it's very tiring being a [TS]

01:07:44   force ghost he's gonna hat he's been [TS]

01:07:46   hanging out there actually my theory [TS]

01:07:48   about the force ghost is that they when [TS]

01:07:50   they're not visible time no time passes [TS]

01:07:52   for them so for him it's been like 10 [TS]

01:07:54   minutes since he got struck down the [TS]

01:07:56   Death Star me papa casa pushes like I'm [TS]

01:07:59   fine aside to let me go but he's got [TS]

01:08:01   he's got some splainin to do to their [TS]

01:08:03   one with the force [TS]

01:08:05   presumably they can move things around [TS]

01:08:06   the yeah this is this is much less [TS]

01:08:09   effective than the yoda seen as much as [TS]

01:08:12   I love Guinness he sleepwalks through [TS]

01:08:13   this scene and I don't know if that's [TS]

01:08:15   because he's not playing it opposite [TS]

01:08:17   Hamill like heat if they shot it [TS]

01:08:19   separately take a positive men but he's [TS]

01:08:21   just flat through this scene for the [TS]

01:08:23   most part I don't like his delivery [TS]

01:08:25   around under the emperor has already won [TS]

01:08:26   because he's an example seems tired and [TS]

01:08:29   he got the complete lines off but a lot [TS]

01:08:32   of it is very you know some of this [TS]

01:08:34   material is not because of the fact that [TS]

01:08:36   he's basically the other the other great [TS]

01:08:38   line is like a liar here though that [TS]

01:08:40   mean this is the problem with it and I [TS]

01:08:42   am is tarnished he doesn't he's well [TS]

01:08:46   what I told you is true from a certain [TS]

01:08:47   point of view that and that's another [TS]

01:08:49   great line [TS]

01:08:49   I love the classroom on it look awesome [TS]

01:08:51   on it sir its reversal of the historic [TS]

01:08:53   relationships where you know he had [TS]

01:08:55   these teachers telling him and now he's [TS]

01:08:57   calling them on there because they [TS]

01:08:58   didn't lie to him you know and it's I [TS]

01:08:59   think that's part of their characters [TS]

01:09:01   they should be a little bit troubled and [TS]

01:09:03   ashamed at this point you know I mean [TS]

01:09:05   Luke has to take this on himself you [TS]

01:09:06   know he's basically like you've got a [TS]

01:09:08   face Vader you've got to go do it we're [TS]

01:09:10   not here to teach you anymore and by the [TS]

01:09:11   way we kinda lied to you and you can [TS]

01:09:12   call us on it will feel kind of ashamed [TS]

01:09:14   but you know what kind of crappy force [TS]

01:09:16   is this if you guys are the sparkly [TS]

01:09:18   ghosts and you're lying to me [TS]

01:09:20   he's one of the one of the worst ghost [TS]

01:09:23   you know sort of reveals ever which is [TS]

01:09:25   the out that's why your sister remains [TS]

01:09:28   safely anonymous its lair [TS]

01:09:31   yeah well you know dammit if i wasn't [TS]

01:09:35   really trying to tell Vader yeah don't [TS]

01:09:37   even think it [TS]

01:09:38   you think about thinking I think of [TS]

01:09:40   something else barium feelings [TS]

01:09:42   yes please pop into your head you don't [TS]

01:09:44   try to fit trying to think of a pink [TS]

01:09:46   elephant Stay Puft Marshmallow Man yeah [TS]

01:09:49   but we also this is also the first [TS]

01:09:52   reveal of Anakin Skywalker Anakin [TS]

01:09:55   Skywalker I remember watching this movie [TS]

01:09:57   going home what Skywalker huh what and [TS]

01:09:59   just totally missed it's like I guess [TS]

01:10:01   he's got a name of something thing [TS]

01:10:04   well my cousin had the you could save up [TS]

01:10:07   like your box tops or maybe Zack of the [TS]

01:10:10   like cancer action figure something and [TS]

01:10:12   send it in foreign Anakin Skywalker [TS]

01:10:14   figure which was like limited edition [TS]

01:10:17   which I remember him having as a kid [TS]

01:10:18   that you like couldn't get anywhere i [TS]

01:10:20   was the god is awesome with his helmet [TS]

01:10:22   off all bernos actually I think it's [TS]

01:10:24   either it's I think it's like the force [TS]

01:10:26   ghost version of him basically the end [TS]

01:10:28   like these little translucent or [TS]

01:10:30   something [TS]

01:10:31   not looking like hayden christensen not [TS]

01:10:33   the time he was the guy who was in that [TS]

01:10:37   movie shattered glass [TS]

01:10:38   yeah yeah we might be an interesting [TS]

01:10:41   start with it but it's not really acting [TS]

01:10:44   really what not so much it will know [TS]

01:10:46   that by making a perfect start with sky [TS]

01:10:47   don't know when we didn't even I mean [TS]

01:10:50   off the top we didn't even talk about [TS]

01:10:52   revenge of the Jedi either [TS]

01:10:54   yeah yeah yeah so there was the the [TS]

01:10:56   movie title to step with that there was [TS]

01:10:58   revenge of the Jedi and of course before [TS]

01:11:01   that it was even get was code-named [TS]

01:11:02   while they were shooting it [TS]

01:11:03   because everybody wanted to know yes you [TS]

01:11:05   know so they harvest the code name and [TS]

01:11:08   they had the t-shirts and hats and [TS]

01:11:10   everything made up and told everybody [TS]

01:11:11   was a horror film that they were making [TS]

01:11:13   the tag line free with the tagline [TS]

01:11:15   oh yeah it's something kind of helium or [TS]

01:11:18   something like worse than you ever [TS]

01:11:19   believe there's something like that [TS]

01:11:21   yeah i'm looking it up blue harvest and [TS]

01:11:24   it and then what was it was that what [TS]

01:11:26   was the sequence they then the people [TS]

01:11:28   who are making structure to the [TS]

01:11:29   Vengeance of Khan didn't want to be too [TS]

01:11:32   close to the revenge of the Jedi so they [TS]

01:11:34   changed it to the wrath of khan and then [TS]

01:11:37   George Lucas decided the jedis didn't [TS]

01:11:38   horror beyond imagination and eyes [TS]

01:11:41   didn't do vengeance [TS]

01:11:43   so they changed the name to return of [TS]

01:11:45   the jedi and nobody right was a good [TS]

01:11:47   choice i have a very good choice because [TS]

01:11:49   revenge does not fit with this with the [TS]

01:11:51   feeling of this movie know and and not [TS]

01:11:53   to support spoiler alert [TS]

01:11:55   uh the George Lucas decided that the [TS]

01:11:57   Sith perhaps were more appropriately [TS]

01:11:59   having revenge and so he just used that [TS]

01:12:01   title late one of my I remember again [TS]

01:12:04   when i got my cousins were older than I [TS]

01:12:06   were so they had all the awesome Star [TS]

01:12:07   Wars stuff but they they had a at some [TS]

01:12:10   point had a revenge of the Jedi poster [TS]

01:12:12   that I guess was a pre-release poster [TS]

01:12:13   but it later i think it was met with [TS]

01:12:15   unfortunate ends in the sense that they [TS]

01:12:17   didn't really take care of it but I [TS]

01:12:19   remember as a kid thinking that was the [TS]

01:12:20   coolest thing that is cool [TS]

01:12:22   yeah and get their revenge you're right [TS]

01:12:25   sweet finally been waiting three podcast [TS]

01:12:29   for that [TS]

01:12:30   okay i'm going to stop it there and [TS]

01:12:33   before we move on to add to meet admiral [TS]

01:12:37   ackbar and a visit the moon of avatar I [TS]

01:12:42   mean indoor we're gonna pause take a [TS]

01:12:45   break as we do with these very long star [TS]

01:12:47   which podcast and come back next week [TS]

01:12:49   for another edition of the incomparable [TS]

01:12:51   talking about returning the job is more [TS]

01:12:53   until then I want to thank my [TS]

01:12:56   participants who have done excellent [TS]

01:12:58   work so far i hope they can keep it up [TS]

01:13:00   in the second half [TS]

01:13:01   serenity called well thank you thank you [TS]

01:13:03   Dan Morgan thank you [TS]

01:13:05   it's a wrap but we haven't talked about [TS]

01:13:09   Admiral Ackbar are an excuse and that [TS]

01:13:11   was that was foreshadowing very nice and [TS]

01:13:12   John siracusa when two hours long you [TS]

01:13:15   reach [TS]

01:13:15   it's good you will not know that was a [TS]

01:13:19   time appropriate reference by the way I [TS]

01:13:21   cannot argue with that [TS]

01:13:24   until next time when we pick this up [TS]

01:13:26   thanks for listening to the [TS]

01:13:27   uncomfortable on Jason still see you [TS]

01:13:29   next time [TS]

01:13:35   your taste buds can repel flavor of that [TS]

01:13:42   magnitude [TS]

01:13:43   no man now with brine shrimp that's so [TS]

01:13:46   great i will eat your I droid [TS]

01:13:53   haha [TS]