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86: Like "Catcher in the Rye," Except Crappier

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► in conquerable podcast number a desserts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► april twenty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/10">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► we are back on the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► I'm your host Jason scale and it is time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► to open another edition of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► incomparable book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► today's topic is magic and books about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/23">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► magical things specifically we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► two books that we're going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► that we're magic and magician ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► features heavily and then we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► probably have a little bit of time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/37">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► branch out and talk about some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/38">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► stuff to joining me on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► book club tonight our Glenn fleischmann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► hi Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► hello there to have you thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► having me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► dan more'n Jason it's not magic it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► Scott McNulty hello hello good to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► you here i'll always a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► do you remember these books i remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► the titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► ok excess Skylanders work Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► remembers words on a page i did read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► village we look to you for title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► information and serenity Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► hello i am now speed reading reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► through both these books because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► been so long since i read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► simultaneously what everything yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► simultaneous right hands you're flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► hmm well I have an iPhone an iPad I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► not gonna make the best use the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► good good work good work alright so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► two books were going to talk about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► our primary focus tonight are the Night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► Circus by Erin Morgenstern this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► book from 2011 it is actually started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► out its life as a national novel writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► month novel which is very exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► it has screech has gotten a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► claim and also the magicians by lev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► grossman which was published in 2009 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► it also actually got some acclaim and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► won an award for best up-and-coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► writer from the hugo awards last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► day and I'd a little-known fact actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► left Grossman pen name of lex friedman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► mean it's not true office this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► true although he is in our business he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► is the he is i believe the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► one of the technology reporters have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► geek culture reporter if you have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► magazine and a croton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► doing some reason about about the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► came out and I i ended up reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► time magazine story about the ipad which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► was by lev grossman did he say was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► what I find strange about the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► launch from web gross perspectives about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► halfway through the ipad entered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► strange fantasy world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► Oh about halfway through the ipad got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► lot better too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/165">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► ah alright so let's start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► magicians by let's review let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► we'll start there and I know that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► have strong feelings about this novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► but just to recap beyond the title which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► is the magician to Scott remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► correct yes k q haces God has fulfilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► his behalf of his needs tonight right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► this is a book a kind of strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► instructure I've heard it described by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► many people as being the foul-mouthed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► dirty version of Harry Potter and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► it is about a school for magic it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► the united states and not not in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► it's just it's a school where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► learn magical things except their foul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► mouth and and drink heavily and have sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/205">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► with each other and other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► are not in harry potter it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► story of clinton who who lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/216">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► Brooklyn and is discovers there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► up by going by walking deeply back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/222">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► behind it like a garden inn in brooklyn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► and pushing through stuff stuff he ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► up very very Narnia like very Lion the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► Witch and the Wardrobe like he ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► at this school brakebills which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► school for magicians and he takes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► tests that are people peculiar and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► he is enrolled in the school and time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► out of sync and he meets people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► there's a whole lot of school stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► then there's a strange plot twist that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► leads to a whole other story about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► strange magical world called Hillary so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► you know I um I know there are strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► feelings about this novel so I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► I'd like to hear what you guys thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► of it and let's start i'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► start with Scott because maybe our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► discussions will remind him of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► that happened in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► shop some memories loose you can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► along until then and start with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► damn or and what what what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► thoughts were about the magician's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► know a I think I think I talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► really well I was well I was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► midst of it and found it you know rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► lackluster to the point I think at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► point I was about after two thirds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► the way through and I think a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► problem with that is that the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► are so alienating and they're drawn in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► this very stereotypical talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► the book that reminded me the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► I'm trying to remember the name of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► think it was called the cheese monkeys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► by the chip kidd a4 chip kid yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/307">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► it's but it's got that same sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► that's about like a bunch of kids going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► to art school and so that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► this reminded me of in a way is you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► got all these kids who are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► pretentious and I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► bothered me the most about it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► all kind of they're all kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► layabouts and ne'er do wells to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► certain extent especially Quentin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► clicky sort of falls in with and not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► the sense that they're all extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► wealthy or whatever but they're all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► know they all do magic and so especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► once they get out of out of brakebills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/343">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► and back into the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► I put quotes around that because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► like living in an apartment in Manhattan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► they don't have to work they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► the money they ever need is a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► right and so they spend all their time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► drinking and doing drugs and having sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► and all that so um which is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► terribly interesting because there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► really a plot going on at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► it's just these characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► unfortunately the characters again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► I said I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► they're not really like no they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► likeable I mean maybe alice is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► like you never you never get insider say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► yeah but she's a mysterious other figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► who maybe I think you feel sad for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► more than anything yeah you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► other the other characters i mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► meet we meet these these characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► their older than a question and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/391">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► the sense that they're kind of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► they've been corrupted by the school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► their cynical and and kind of unfriendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► and-and-and there and Quentin and Alice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► are sort of like promoted into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► year and so they're the younger ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► they're more innocent and and so through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► them you end up seeing these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► characters who are more the another kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► of hedonistic and they're very cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► and they're not particularly like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► they've already got a sort of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► politics between them and their arse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► history that's ugly of people who've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► loved and hated each other and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► good kind of the whole thing it falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► into this sort of trap of of clichés in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► some way of you have these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► dissolute teenagers you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► too cool for everything and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► have the the how everybody hates their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► parents right even like especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► Quentin's parents that really struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► as his parents being really kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► offensive and bland but he's somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► offended by that ineffectiveness but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► struck me as not really having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► well-defined reason or a you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► it just struck me as like a god it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► annoying teenager you know and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► maybe that's realistic but it sits at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► the same time just so boring to read is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► so dull harry potter went through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► for an entire harry potter book and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► was actually one of the more unpleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► things in here hotter series he spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► the entire book being mad at everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► because he supposed to be sullen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► he's a teenager and it's you know it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► be realistic in one way but it just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► of sucks because it's just like you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► why do I fiction for a reason yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► Dan what you said was you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► despairing but I did you didn't pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► at the end then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► this is sort of two books right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► kind of like two totally different plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► yes well it's like yeah there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► there's a book at the beginning which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► really boring school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► well it's cool Quentin as a kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► whatever I even the part of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► beginning where they get to fillory this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► this magical universe even that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► kind of shoddy because Aaron it haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► yeah it is unclear right like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► this is a pastiche on the sort of narnia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► and and traditional fantasies or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► it's a actual honest like Ernest fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► story right I've got to say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► when reading this book all I could think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► of was this is a kid who wrote Narnia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► fanfiction in high school wrote like 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► thousand words of it said well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► obviously can't publish it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► fanfiction let me sit on it a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► years and then a couple years later he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► comes up to it means like oh well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► if I twerksum names around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► Hey look I've got a novel then it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/557">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► so happens to be very clearly resemble i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► think yeah I think that was it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► parody a community parents so earnest so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► it's no it's not understand i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► there's enough of a critique in there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► feel like that he's trying to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► don't think it's particularly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► executed critique but it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► ripping off but it's yeah it's so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► so heavy-handed it is very heavy-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► number an ember thing where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► and then at the end they come and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► always take the chat when children away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► and they have to go back to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► seems so unfair and I'm like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► someone reading rd and said why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► the kids stay there you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/594">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► yeah doesn't add to its just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56 ◼   ► complaint yeah I the the illusions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► so heavy though like you know they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► about you know I think the older girl at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► some of the older chat when you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► some point and of course anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► read Narnia you know thanks immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► a Susan who is the one you know the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► kid who is sort of at a later point just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► decide she's she's she's never coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► back to Narnia guess she's just got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► joints right ages out and which is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► thing that many people are critical of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► in Lewis's work but i think that I grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► Jason that this is this is intended more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► as Christie core a critique or pastiche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► I don't know if I'd go so far as to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► it's parody because it doesn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/635">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► work that way and it's not funny enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► to be parody to me and not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► necessarily to be funny but like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► it's not it's not a parody of not sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► enough there is a pair of harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► it does feel like if you take harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► potter and narnia what what what really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► is happening here is he's he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/650">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► make some kind of commentary right while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► telling a story about that sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► the the how clean some of these family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► beloved fantasy stories are versus sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► of the dirtiness of reality and real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► people and real life and I feel that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► school seems very strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► and in the scenes in the second half in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► fillory you know I feel like he's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► some comments on on this idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/676">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► children I mean you talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► children visiting and IMF and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► changes in time and all of that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► sort of making a comment about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► especially given the fact that spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the the the bad guy ends up being one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► the children who is bad because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► doesn't want to leave and I but the but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► he doesn't he doesn't commit to it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► problem is that it's not just the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► changes halfway through its that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► doesn't commit to being either parody or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► critique and he's and that's what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► feels like pastiche because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► washing machine yeah he borrows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► everything he can I mean the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► needed brakebills like that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► funny if he was really trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► Hogwarts parody but he doesn't it's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► borrow it's like it's like oh I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► make a little joke here and there an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► occasion i'm going to make a joke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► Narnia or or harry potter i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► it's a parody it's commentary it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► saying this is unrealistic to expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► people to behave the way they do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► Harry Potter this is how they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► behave but who wants to read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► about that well that may be but well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► mean I and I think you could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► well I just not sure that this was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► well my thing is that he steals the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► framework so he tries to eat he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► them in jokes he makes the reference and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► then it's like okay well not describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► something works just like Harry Potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► you know it works just like whores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► describing workers everyone's read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► Narnia so I'm just gonna go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► other thing ignore the fact that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► created something I bring up all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► things are always in jokes and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► different names for everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► sometimes wink and nudge about Narnia or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► harry potter and then he moves on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► you know we're talking about just those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50 ◼   ► two there so many elements like brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► in from every other book and movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► know there's bright lights big city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► the New York seen practically there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► there's a it's just I feel like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► think best each is the right word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► because I feel like they're 50 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► bits and pieces of fantasy novels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► magic novels and movies i mean i've felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► like it was a terrible movie with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► sensual a terrible movie with nicolas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► cage where sorcerer's apprentice right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► which I saw national richer conair yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► so has rich and famous sorcerers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► apprentice had the same field to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► where they're like they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► reference stuff and they're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► being funny and the sort of making no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► sense and it doesn't stand alone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► like Oh electricity allows us to perform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► magic except we say spells except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► there's there's a perfect part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► explains this book for me which is early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► on they're doing some lecture and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► the professor says we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► anything about the orange of origin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► magic and he makes the it's Turtles all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► the way down story and it goes on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► the turtles all the way down reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► to hammer on the point that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► because harry potter it's obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► peep of his and the Harry Potter books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► they don't really look at where magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► comes from comes from they just study it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► like empirical of scientists used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► without setting the basis of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► reality or whatever and I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► same things come up here is you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► brings these things up because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► pet peeves he gets rid of them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► moves on just like you know you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► through the harry potter thing whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/849">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► should have been sex and drugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► violence and weird stuff at Hogwarts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► while we've done that now we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► go into the narnia world and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► should have been you know this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► and strange gods and so forth and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► he does not i wanted to interject that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► thought they were the the scene there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► one scene that really stands out for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► in the first half of the book which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► the one point where if i'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► like-- lazily like asian through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► reading the one that made me sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► setup is the scene the first scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► the Beast weary antagonists and taxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► best which i think is one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► scenes yeah overall its original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► slightly yeah it's an original scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► doesn't feel like anything else yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42 ◼   ► it's really scary especially that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► bit where it's like you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► through the whole thing and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► terrifying your kind of frozen and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► again like they're like oh and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► even noticed that this like student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► totally died and you're just like wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► but they never really be kind of cheats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► his way out of it never really goes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► know back to that aspect of it right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► gets put on hold so long but I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02 ◼   ► maybe he just forgot it will never come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► up again but it did it got it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► does and I and I mean and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► that's the part that's where the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► starts to come around to me is towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► the end I think it really took as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► they get into sort of this tomb right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► and I get up to the you know they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► amber and they start interrogating him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► and you kind of realize that this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► a sort of a ploy and then they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► like them they're you know they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► there in deep crap right and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► to sort of get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► out of it and it doesn't go well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► that's the part where I started like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► okay I I kind of like that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► something at stake here and that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► go really badly and that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► dig themselves out this huge hole and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► really sort of love the coda after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► with the questing beast remove that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► little short story in there where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► wakes up after this huge battle and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► been asleep for like months are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/955">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► and he's his hair is gone white and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► he's taking care of by all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► centaurs kind of pity them and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► has to go off and search after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► thing I love that little bit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► where that's a reference to by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► the again everything is the best teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► I like that part too very much i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► that was that one of the best parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► the book but the infernal desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► machines of dr. Hoffman by angela carter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► with your friend gave me to read it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► terrifying and hilarious book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► there's a bit with centaurs in it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► is exceedingly disturbing to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► rational mind and that scene in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► with the Centaurs is clearly an homage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► to it without being anywhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► disturbing as national Carter's book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► wanted to mention one other seen that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► that I liked in a book which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► scene where at graduation they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► taken down into know ya levels below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► level level level and it's like outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► the magical protection area and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► get tattoos that are essentially demons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► being inserted into them to protect them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► and it's this ritual and the Dean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► sort of like I'm ok I'm gonna let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► and now that you've graduated I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► let you in on some of the last secrets i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► thought that was really evocative there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► are a few scenes like that that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► you like wow there are some elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► a really good book that was not real you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► know what the will the scene that stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► alone for me that was the best the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► Antarctica seen I loved that scene I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► thought the whole thing it was so gritty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► it was so disconnected from the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► the book it was so it actually had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► would say compelling sex even though was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► between foxes I thought that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► sex is whole thing about being sex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► drugs and alcohol and the book isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► very interesting throughout and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► thought that got more to sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► raw elemental stuff than anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► in the book and it it's a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► little snippet and when they get back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► brakebills I'm like ah that parts over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► that part was actually really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► well the part it takes them out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► reality to serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► extending them out of the context and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► also you're taking them out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► board disaffected human minds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► putting them in animals and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► that and like oh no you can't talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► each other so you can't complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► how bored you are i don't know it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► like to create a quote from louis ck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► here everything is awesome and nobody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► happy where it's like you were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► a school for magic and you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► gonna be all the time and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► admittedly if he wants to make a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► know if if Grossman's idea is to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► story about how magic really just causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► trouble and makes people unhappy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► know there are elements in there there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► like the parents seen we get to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► else's parents who are just these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► who have oh yeah well you you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► this is what disaffected people turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► into when they have all the power at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► their hands and they just going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► themselves into crazy this book actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► kind of reminds me of Catcher in the Rye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► except with magic and crappier and Carla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► know we'll listen for a second because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► like a lot of people this catcher in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► rye because of the you know disaffected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► nature of the protagonist but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► say the tone or at least a tone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► Grossman is trying to achieve i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► similar to catcher in the rye his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► catcher in the rye is a very affecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► book even though it's narrator is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► of an ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► well that's why I'm not criticizing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► I'm saying that you know comparing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► to catch on the rise like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► comparing the rock to you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► tempest you know i got it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► place on Islands you know I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► have similar themes not necessarily that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► they're similar tears of literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► no yeah I'm gonna backups ready because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► I thought that was the missing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► structural problem for me was if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► want to explore what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► have infinite aura now relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► infinite power compared to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► and what happens the corruption and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► harry potter and despite someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► dimensionality of it throughout the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► conflict between having power and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► forced to restrain and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► mechanisms in the Harry Potter universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► beat that even though sometimes we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► presented as parodies of British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► bureaucracy there are checks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► balances you must do something useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► with yourself or sort of retire back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► into the magical world you can't go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► and just sort of screw around in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► world the rules don't seem to apply and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► you wonder why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► more things aren't going awry and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► have different amounts of power and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► never explores the it's not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► responsibility comes you know with great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► power thing it's more like he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► explore the ethical limits of having no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► check someone's actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it's just uh well we can do anything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► want so we're all going to collapse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► ennui [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► or become despite and so that whole last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► seen right where he's he's after he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► escaped from Philadelphia she decides 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► yeah he decides to go work in this Fermi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► doesn't really do anything he draws a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► paycheck he sits around in his office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► and plays video games all day is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► nice office that he's just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► convince people to give them and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► I don't know it you sort of sad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► difficult thing and I think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► know I think the ending of this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► fairly contentious in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42 ◼   ► especially the you know very end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► where he essentially decides why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► heck not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► I'll go back with all my friends to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► you know terrible face that we barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► escaped with our lives because at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54 ◼   ► it's more exciting than what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► I'm doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► that makes no sense to me oh I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► they had established some meaning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► they had meeting and resolve and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► why he went with him as opposed to hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► let's go have fun it was like no these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► were kick-ass people and figure out some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► way to scrape some meeting and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► at them he's like alright maybe there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► something to do I was gonna love it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► you know they had connected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► characters more but I feel like by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► end of the book maybe i just read it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► sleep by the end after he goes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► questing beast thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► it kind of feels like oh I'm done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► this chapter in my life I'm closing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► magic forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► I'm gonna go work in an office and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► completely you know just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► dissolute about this i mean even meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► up with somebody who was a former which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► is also working at this firm in doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► nothing and they have coffee and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► and it's very much it feels like after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that scene after the you know the coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► or the beer scene that he feels you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► completely uninterested about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► in the magical world and then two scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► later he's like yeah I'm gonna go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► fillory why not well but there is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► there is a nice train there because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► reason that you know the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► that woman is also there is that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► also sort of caused the death of someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► write that she was really close to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► the same way that when you put himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► in danger and had to be rescued by Alice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► who essentially you know commited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► suicide to save them and so they're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► of the argument at the end there is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► they gave our lives for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► like you know what we better make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► lives worthwhile right I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► sort of the that is the thing that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► of i think saves that upswing at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► a little bit is not so much that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► oh I guess I have nothing better to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► than go back in this world is more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► well if we don't do something then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► know that their deaths didn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► this is also a story that is about in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► if you had to say was about one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► would say it's it's about Narnia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► it's about the books and the concept so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► even in the beginning you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► pushing through essentially the Wardrobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► to get brakebills he's obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► these books they read as a kid they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► up going to this world because it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► out to be real which I really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► that part that it that the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► hilary is real after all and at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► you know it's a Narnia is a series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► and there's detail about the fillory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► series 2 and they keep the kids keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► going back right so I felt like you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► to have them go back at the end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► that's what it's about is they go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► to the magic land they that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► that's how these books work as they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► back to what I view that is at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► meta-level that to that don't of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► they have to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► that's when it's not everybody gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► go back right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► maybe they had that last scene 2 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► if he'll head and throwing himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► through that glass window and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► couldn't save Trinity only a minute yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► it was very matrix at the end wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► that was like a scene from the matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► but they need cinnamon that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► the ok and then to get this the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► i'd have this scene at the end so goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the movie with but I sort of had another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► kind of like that because it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► I thought it through off some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► ennui it's like you know you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► they could have ended this sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► know at the end of one hour under you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► like the end of Brazil you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► gone insane and and in these dead to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► world and we're still a dystopia it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► like now this guy goes alright I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► throw myself out the window and is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► can do magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► why am I here i'm gonna do that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► yeah a good at least there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► originally like an epilogue where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► like you're the the bystanders walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► by see this guy plummet to his death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► from not thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► and I really want to pull the garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► out for dinner someone cast a spell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17 ◼   ► silence over Scott McNulty we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► release him from it yes got to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► this book now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► uh well to be fair I did read it three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► so how didn't I tell you all that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► new button on you don't know I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► just trying to recall any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► details and all I remember about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► book was that the first part i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► completely forgot they went to a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► land and I remember the ending with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► exploding window so i really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► entire moving it may be a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► though that there really are these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► these two movements and you remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► school stuff and there's this cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► and then there's the magic land and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► I was talking to my wife afterward i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► read this book and a and then I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► talking to her about this crazy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► that I read and I said you know as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► editor I look at this and think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► should have been two books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► this should've been there would there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► was it should have been cut into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► then both of them needed some work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► there should have been a book one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► was the magician's at school book one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► would have been incredibly boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► well it needed a climax there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► climax in that part of the book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► rushed through it too there's that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24 ◼   ► point where he's like he's like oh wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► a minute 14 months just passed and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► don't know anybody how do we not make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► any friends it was like there's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► when they say that like yeah how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► not make any friends for the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► and a half and you're like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► that dream when you wake up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► forgot to go to school for a year is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► what it is so you you you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► can change the shape of a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► but you have a little more of a climax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► and whether that's the Antarctica stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► or it's something else that climax with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► them graduate more more quidditch I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► Welters yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► there could just run is a nap and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► like that would have been an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► book and then the second but it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59 ◼   ► second half feels like a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► different book which is hey you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► all that fillory stuff it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► it's real i will have an adventure there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► he could have built more I if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► expanded the first part with school he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► could have really interested in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► hole fillory thing a little more so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► would have been more shocking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► second book like oh my god it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► real but you do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► now so that that's that and that struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► me about it that it just it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► of I think works better because it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► like two unfinished books if it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► split into and been more finished and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► think because there's a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► stuff in here but it does feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► know and this happens with novels a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► is you know you write a novel and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► people will either publish it or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► won't and it's not that off that common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► that somebody will say I like it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► needs a lot of work and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► probably break it into and you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► this and just do that now if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► this is one of those cases where just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► cried out for somebody to say left this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► is great stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► you're very talented we need to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► work on it and it seems like that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► happen you know why would I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► compare this in terms of plot or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► scale but the on the series of wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► books the blue Mars rover him Stanley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► Robinson yeah tread marks cream learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► more wonderful series of books and Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► tomorrow one of the most appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► Mars blue Mars and Mars blue eyes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► do you see the the thing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► books characters incredibly richly drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► characters some of them start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► extremely disinfected and sullen or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► you're angry at them are there they kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► people or whatever enters and evolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► through the book whereby they live for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► like 200 years so yeah that's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► little gimmick might explain why i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► never finish that book takes to twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► year so it's a beautiful is a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► serious reading maybe we'll do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► episode on it but the but I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► the evolution of character you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► disaffected characters like I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► the turning point was going to be with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► Quentin and Alice like you know they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► that they're both disaffected Alice had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► reasons actually a deep dark secrets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► Gretchen was just sort of a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► jerky Brooklyn k just didn't appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► what he had been their magic but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► Antarctica i thought was going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► is ok this is the crucible we've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► through a lot they go through America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► they both have learned more about each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► other and themselves and they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► only two and five years like the boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► there some foxes and they do that death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► marks that bit that one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► moments the book the funniest thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► they come back upon the portal back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► brakebills from Antarctica everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► sitting around and they're like you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► are the only idiots who did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► optional voluntary death march to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► pole but that's what i thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► the crucible and then you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► have this different thing where resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► and different and they realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► and now there's still the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► party around kids that they were before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► yeah would have been really nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► actually see them get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► oh yes we've embraced what we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► and we're really invested in it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► you take it you go back to New York you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► have the slow sort of degradation the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► idea that oh yeah back now that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► back in the real world everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► sort of crunching on in on you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► think actually he has a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► interesting motif throughout the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► with the sort of the real world versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► the magic world and going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► magic world i mean not only do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► it sort of the main characters but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► have it with the main antagonist you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► have it with Martin and then you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► have sort of a weird foreshadowing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► Quentin's original non-magic world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► classmate Julia who gets in for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► first two rounds of tests at brakebills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► and then gets booted out and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► convinced that she's gone crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► yes exactly because she remembers even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► though they tried to wipe her memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► about it and so she just goes around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► like she wants to get back into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► world and she even assaults question at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► one point being like yeah I'm gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► back and you know you if you contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► that with the Martin Chatwin stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► there's there's the underpinnings of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► really interesting book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► disillusionment of magic and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► happens when you try and go back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► world that you can't quite fit into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► that like that could be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► well paired with growing up and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► like that but instead it for me it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► feels like a bunch of dissolute pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► that are kind of plopped down together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► side-by-side and like if you try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► connect the dots you can sort of see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► narrative but I was really offended by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► one thing in the book I mean really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► quite so which is when Martin challans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► sister a laser system judge is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► genuine jane says you know you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► judge my bar my brother too harshly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► plover the author of the fillory and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► know whatever books was doodling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► everything God and I'm like oh come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► you throw that in this moment we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► supposed to excuse somebody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► it's like it's like saying well Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► Pott you know his parents used to beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► him it's like yeah but you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► go and kill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► this is that didn't bother me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► didn't read that as being legitimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► excusing his behavior so much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► much as tearing apart the the author and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► saying you know this author was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► an awful human being but what'll I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► see ya there very gotta put the detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► the same extraneous me and I I agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► sort of it it made me you know raise an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► eyebrow just like you couldn't resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► turning that into something but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► it didn't bother you a didn't bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► from the same way as being an excuse so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► much it just seems like a ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► why isn't there like yes I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► your point that in the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► I mean it's a lot of the explicit stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► throws in is just seems like it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► for shock value like there's an fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► early on with Elliot right where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► quite and stumbles across him involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► in some sort of you know homosexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► tryst or whatever and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► informs us to a certain extent about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► character but you know at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► it seems you know unnecessarily graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► or just don't dare to try and shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► people right it could have been done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► better there's a movie prick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► ears about Jordan the playwright and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► there's a bit where after he wins a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► award he goes into it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► aloo in England and manner all over him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► and it's like and that was sort of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► was a contrast and terrifying and useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► and exploration of the characters as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► opposed to let's degrade this guy while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► the guy peeps his head up and then no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► okay now we know all about it let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► and talk about it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► yeah just ties into the book as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► general where it feels like Grossman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► kind of got carte blanc to do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► he wanted in this book and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► he takes it too far and there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► no no offense to his editors but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► I it feels like there wasn't that hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► being like love love what did you told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► that back a little bit so I to if we if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► we would sum up the reaction here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► sounds like there's a lot of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► stuff in this book but that it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► got a lot of flaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► there's a lot to slog through to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► the interesting huh yeah and it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► really mad to think about it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► even weeks later and ready for a ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► for the magician's the Phantom edit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► i'm going to read that one huh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► can tell the sequel magician kings which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► is available in bookstores near he heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► that I heard that might make me angry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► retired some people say that they liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► it better and then other people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► that it raged them and they liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► first one and the second one so i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► don't know what to think I i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► read it for that reason I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► something for that which we haven't said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► which is actually a pretty good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► he is interesting i think his character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► strong but you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► the book that I'm not bored or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► irritated by this one actually maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► sort of angry about it and I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► opening a strong emotional reaction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► actually you know that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► worthwhile i don't like it i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► i'd recommend other people that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► commend him for writing in a fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► that actually enraged me instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► bored me i liked it i mean i want you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► I think it's flawed but i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► reading it and I think it could could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► have been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► absolutely but some of these scenes will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► stick with me and I you know I i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► the ride and I didn't mind that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► characters were unlikable because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► was ok with me that they weren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► weren't likable it's true that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► don't know I i enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► I've read all those Narnia books I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► I it's no sin for character to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► unlikable is my feeling it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► sin for them to be unlikable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► uninteresting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► I mean I'm not saying that's necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► the case here but I think about you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► too and generally people people often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► criticized you know like madmen for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► having like characters they're full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► Michael people like yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► unlikable that's true but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► interesting in and so dislike them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► you don't like dislike them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► screen but you can't stop watching them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► with supporting cast in the magician's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► is not strong supporting cast their eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► yeah besides you know the sort of few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► main characters i think there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► very few that stand out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► professor's become interchangeable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► think that's probably also a failed sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► of thrust harry potter am and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► going to ask if anyone does anyone have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► a favorite character or they all equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► unlikable because i have a favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► character bicurious anyone else does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► and I'm thinking oh yeah i would go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► a second i can't remember his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► because it was long in Russian but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► guy that Antarctica the guy never mind i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► think i think he was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► interesting he has very very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► dialogue but he was in compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► character especially sort of filling his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► backstory later and go ahead when I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► I like penny because parents would text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► workable and crazy and turns out to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► the key the key plot element into sorta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► he's easygoing as I went along nemesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and yet he becomes actually vitally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► important right but he he is kind of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► own plot like he's in a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► story and his whole don't think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► would be very interesting because at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► end of your weekend really badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► yeah and he's got fake hands and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► opens his hands he goes he reads books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► for the rest of his life apparently it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► a totally different life than everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► else in the book but but what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► about that character is his interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► with Quinn I mean basically there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► there is a great scene where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► you've set this guy up as well i kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► don't like him and but I'm sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► whatever i'm not going to pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► to him and then penny kinda like walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► out of the school building and walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► right up to Quinton and places with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► notes and they get in a fight and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► liked that too that it's like we're over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► at the Magic School and like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► like this guy will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► well in harry potter it's like Oh mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► boy you better watch out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► and in this it's like no I'm gonna punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► you in the face and there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► about that way with penny that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► very direct very direct fellow i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► going to punish you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yeah it's in your boys sense to me yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► I don't know about that it was but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► was amusing you know don't enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► enjoy it anyway he's in his own book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► yeah he's reading for the pools in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► in the little place that's between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► ok let's move on to the Night Circus by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► Erin Morgenstern I this is from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► this is like I said it's a national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► novel writing month book originally she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► didn't know what to do with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► characters so she sent them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► circus and then aha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► the circus might be an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► subject for a book so this is a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► a story set in mostly in and around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► London although not it's also in Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► in the in the united states there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► time frames in it which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► surprising and interesting arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► three wedding and how yeah I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► that I suppose that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► it's basically about these two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► Celia and marco who are chosen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► players in a game between two older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► gentleman who are playing a long game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► that we don't know the details of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► and Celia and marco are the players and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► so they're sort of set against each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► other and in a game that that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► nobody knows the rules of and magic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► at the center of it and and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► a creation of a circus and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► lots of circus people all of whom are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► doing magical things and it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► just a strange and I evocative and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► thought really charming charming book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► and I I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► so what do you guys think has anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► ever watched the same way ever watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► HBO show carnevale new episodes remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► you about a lot of the tone that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► much darker and much more disturbed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► it also takes place at a traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► carnival and also involves sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► that's more of a good and evil Battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► like but there is also an element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► magic well up to it but I mean it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► distinct but the tone reminded me of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► lot and I like carnival a lot and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► the night circus a lot as well it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► of reminded me of that but set in a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► know Jonathan strange and mr normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► universe to allude to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► yeah right look right it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► Victorian so you got the Victorian areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► it's like the late eighteen hundreds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► early nineteen hundreds and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► you've got that tone which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► nice you've got like English you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► big English kind of manner buildings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► rooms and things and then the circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► structure and the Traveling Circus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► there's there's magic and the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► that's done is interesting and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► they're like kinds of magic and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► they're very limited things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► can do with the way that they make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► magic in this circus that they that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► build and then they have the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► talents of the the others that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► person who construct the the the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► that's at the circus it's just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► mean there's a lot in there but it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► at its core two are these two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► who are on a collision course with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► another from the very beginning you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► in contrast with magicians the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► supporting characters in this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► huge and I feel like almost every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► one of them is very well fleshed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► whether we get a point of view chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► from them or not it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► interesting the amount of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► different sub sections that we go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► inside the book because you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► overarch the overarching story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► basically a love story disguised as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► competition which is fascinating but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► also have you have the undercurrent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► the person who basically puts on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► circus who is more or less unaware until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► later on that he is basically being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► played as part of a competition but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► have this whole section where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► basically planning how to build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► circus and you get into his mind like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► producer even though you never even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► never get a point-of-view character for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► this for this person you only get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► through the eyes of Marco who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► basically become his his assistant in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► order to manipulate aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► circus but his his whole track and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► track of the other sort of patrons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► the circus are that that track is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► I thought it was a beautiful book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► agree with run out of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► means even the minor ones are richly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► fleshed out and it seemed both spare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► full of details so you could be part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► it was fasting that later that it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► night circus is open at night and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► are either white or black often and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► was used as that theme to identify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► people are sort of became associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► with and traveled with to see the circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► but and the red is the color of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► the twins hair is born at midnight when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► the bonfires lived in the bonfire is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► multicolored and there's just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► everything was it felt like it was full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► of imagery and symbolism but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► anyone having to take upon a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► heavy-handed being and even the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► that i always liked books that involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► magic or even sometimes science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► where the issues are dispensed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► really fast so we don't actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► care what the basis of magic is in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► book it's not discussed it sort of waved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► away but it feels a realistic in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► sense that it's consistent and it arises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► out of effort and will in a way that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► consistent among all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► involved throughout the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► and I like the the light touch their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► let's treat it like a craft craft right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► everything kind of makes sense in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► way that a certain things happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► plot and there's a lot of kids a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► books to read and you'd be like well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► didn't this thing do this at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► you know I was thinking particular i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► just finished this book earlier the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► before the recording here so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► thinking in particular the ending where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► you know sort of the circus has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► suspended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► well as issues are worked out and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► one of our protagonist from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► timeline a young young man was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► being chosen to be the next proprietor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► of the circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► he's sort of going around investigating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► why everyone is sort of frozen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► circus and there's one person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► there to sort of breed him that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► contortionist and so so they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► the question is why is she able to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► around with nobody elses and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► the answer is well she's sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► magician in her own right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► it's not important that we know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► mechanics exactly haha she was immune to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► their power is based on this message was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► like oh she kinda knows magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► yeah it makes sense of it doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► the detail and she was in the end it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► the balance of the love story there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► many balanced forces of sort of love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► jealousy and loss and there are neatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► arranged so you're just like oh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► course she's the one she's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► was gradually revealed that she been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► competitor in a previous round of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► competition and so it makes sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► the kid who is sort of brought us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► prior like his need for change in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► had the fact that he comes along is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► happenstance things happen in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► for what seemed to be accidental reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► but there's almost a purpose or fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► behind them and you just accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► because it's part i mean the book is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► about everything being balanced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► whatever the balance goes off there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► great scene you know relatively in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► book where the lover of Marcos lover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► realizes that he never really loved her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► and it over not a horrible way she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► doesn't you know go totally nuts but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► had learned enough magic to keep both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► Marco and his opponent in balance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► she unravels that and then the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► starts to wind up the clock starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► spring start to pop out basically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► things start to happen sorry good better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► for it and the flies all over the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► it made perfect sense it's like she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► so the linchpin is is various people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► in love and the clockmaker being in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38 ◼   ► with don't forget her name with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► Celia that's a that's a lovely bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► though the fact that clock maker who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► you know supposed to be slightly older I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► guess and they have some kind of love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► affair but it's not it's not as deep as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► the one with Marco but she loves him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► a certain way and that doesn't become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► this strange twisted thing it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► part of all the mechanics of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► you can kind of get away with that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► Victorian gettin awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► that's right yeah i think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► almost an intellectual of a fair mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► has any kind of physical thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► he is you know he happens to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► maker of the clock and then he also ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► up being basically the voice for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► circus to the general public who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► to know more about it is the divorce fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► yeah 100 feet I'm your biggest and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► he's interviewing him he created his boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► he's killed in the clinic starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► Clippers killed in the clock starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► one down right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► ok that is one of the that that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► affecting scene 2 which is how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► can I just say I love I mean she's for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► first-time rider she has a impeccable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► control over the language in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► however loss places except for not such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► a loser for what purpose places she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► continually gluing to set in dialogues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► will continually good two sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► together with a comma which is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► done for painting but it drives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► insane with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► well that she's a she's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► writer and and with the exception of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► comma splices which I I think you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► be able to forgive as a style choice he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► received overly intention language so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► that way there's no way and editors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► gonna let that many of them go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► it's like yeah you're doing comma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► splices but really I got to talk to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► Grossman about his book to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► I don't get ready first-time novelists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► who are very few with this beauty that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► um what's the one who wrote the hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► thousand kingdoms NK jemisin yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► yes i returned to you for all the names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► you always i mentioned how much I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► the book on Twitter and lisas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► spangenberg who's an author and editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► she went with her friend she said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► the book was actually workshop not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► nanowrimo but on what's called aww is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► author's forum that people use and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► was apparently great participate in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► and listen to suggestions and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► incredibly generous with her time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► after the book is coming out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► interesting that it just it has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► sense of having been you know you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► it's someone's fourth book but the IMF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► is the first she wrote you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► sometimes people have the first as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► all know first and second in the drawer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► the third is the first one is published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► but it does feel like a mature novelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► so I read a criticism of this book from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► somebody just you know people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► internet people who don't like this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► seemed to not like it because they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► well it's all just descriptions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► things and nothing much happens because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► it was so much the scribing of items and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► the colors and and details of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► like so basically can help this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► I'll say is if if what you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► for out of a novel is a series of plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► if pot points and events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► yes this book might disappoint you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► little bit because because a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► a lot of it not all that there is a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► there is there is a lot of flavor club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► but there's a lot of like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► of describing of the scene and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► fantastical setting and instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52 ◼   ► saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► suffice it to say it's a magic circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► now let's get down to the business of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► the plot of the thing that didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► what I like too much about it is is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► it's very atmospheric and it treats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► magic as something that is special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► yeah and and precious right so you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► many of these fantasy books read magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► is just part of you ever get out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► magic there's magic guy who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► it makes me i'm still a teenager and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► still a bit of an ass but I in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► it's like it's magic it's it's magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► there's no other way to describe it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► just like when I was as i was reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► and I am known not to like an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► fiction but I felt it made me feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► a kid again reading a book which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► great kind of feeling to have right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► that it's fantastical like that yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► magic is special and when they do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► weird and elemental and and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► it's whimsical and sometimes it's scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► but it's never it's never pedestrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► it's never boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52 ◼   ► it's only it's always hoggin all with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► their match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► or something you know yeah the magic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► magical excited me a little bit of uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► know a lot of people talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► prestige which is a a book and a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► set in sort of Victorian England but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► one that reminds me a little bit more as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► they came around the same time as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► movie called The Illusionist with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► normal which also has a beautiful it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► extremely atmospheric movie I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► recommended by the way it's out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► actually very clear those movies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► under all those movies are good they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► very different as an illusionist yes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► reminds me more of this be its own the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► illusionist is also more of a love story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► first edition arguably you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► there's something funny i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► the book and I couldn't put my finger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► what made it seem familiar and after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► while I realized it reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► moby-dick which may sound ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► this is the descriptions no prescription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► is very well and and I really got me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► the it that richness is that people read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► you know I'm sure we'll have to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► in high school and i'm reading a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► school thing is the most boring thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► which everyone does then i read it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► adult discovered Moby Dick is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► hilarious if you're not reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► tendentious Lee and analyzing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► it's a hilarious book but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► every chapter and all the descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► of the obtaining of the spur bassetti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► and all the rest of it it's it builds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► this incredibly rich picture building up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► this inventory in the storehouse of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► mind into which then the story unfolds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► and it's a you know weird literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► convention not to make away with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► felt she did parts of that is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► interleaved the narrative so it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22 ◼   ► purely descriptive but there is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► it that was building up this storehouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► the powder keg of all these forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► arrayed in a lot of detail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► background stories and then at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► it's just explosion explosion explosion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► explosion but you understood it all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► that bigger context she created i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the moment in this book where r2 r2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► participants finally really come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► together which involves a torrential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► downpour and a magic umbrella you stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► the scene right from my mouth that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► probably like oh it's beautiful is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► fantastic memorable scene and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► there aren't that many bits of all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► it does a great job of ratcheting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► up without spelling everything out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► there's still some suspense at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► of it they have now identified each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► other but and he invites her fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► drink right and then she goes maybe some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► other time and then disappear that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► a great if you could sort of it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► you know the balance doesn't tip right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► in one direction or the other it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► of not even if anything that's the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► that the levels it and i think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► the things I really liked about this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► some ways that I you know I realized i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► found myself anticipating and seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► lot of the plots points coming but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► not i think there's an amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► predictability in certain books that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► not necessarily a bad thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► kind of reassuring it's like putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► puzzle together when you kind of know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► what the picture is supposed to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► there's a certain joy in revealing it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► you go in finding out how those pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► together right so I i think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► for me like I could see how some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► these things were progressing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► there's a satisfaction in in seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► come together the way that you expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► absolutely and to the description note i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► would say that those individual tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► within the circus are so fantastical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► that the description like I'm i am anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► Charles Dickens because of his excessive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► description but that said like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► description of each of the tents and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► they work and you know all this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► is ice and this one is clouds this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► this reminds me there's a I'm san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Francisco has a has a night truck thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► that happens basically twice a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► three times a year Brooklyn has this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► well and I think it originated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► Brooklyn where it's just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► theater people rent boxcar trucks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► make fantastical elements within them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► and i actually got to go to one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► last year and like they're all cut like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► I felt very similar reading this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► and like looking at the the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► tents to actually go to the get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► boxcar the evening market because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► the truck was like one of the trucks i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► went to was a Brigadoon library only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► appears once every hundred years or once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► every yeah once every hundred years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► then there was one where they did items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► in liquid nitrogen and then they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► smash them so it's like it's all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► you know the mix of the fantastical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► me and the Jermaine and I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► was just having having had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► experience I think it made the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► more interesting to me that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► multiple perspectives is is a great way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► to get you to see the circus because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► have the you know the story of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► like you are entering the circus and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► you're seeing what's happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► circus from from this perspective that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► sort of outside and you've got the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► of the kid who is dared by his sister to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► break in to the circus when you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► supposed to go there and he and he meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► a girl and she gives him something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► proof and then he leaves and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► well that's an interesting little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► but of course it's actually part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► story and it's a different part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► timeline so you are learning things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► you later on you you really started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► flipping back and forth like okay when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► you have you guys did that take place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► ok hold on it and it sort of starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► dovetail right like towards the ethical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► look you look at the new music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► it gives you dates you're like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► blood date whatever its 1908 its unity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► through whatever and then you realize oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► Jesus the dates matter because this girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► that we met hasn't been born at well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► isn't that clever how they I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► bit about where maybe this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► everyone knows about I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► quarter of the third of the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and so then I'm like these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► too old but with with a minute and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► right when you realize that then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► starts to reveal and then it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► thing and she sort of explains it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► is it's in there if you look as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► noticed it fairly early on that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► like you know we don't seem to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► know getting any older her its it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► to come in and you realize there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► something something very peculiar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► you have that terribly tragic scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► right with one of the twins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► oh gosh yeah doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► we just can't handle you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► being so magical and mystical and ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► up you know more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► well she doesn't commit suicide but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► she's sort of drawn into sort of the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► entice to the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► yeah right by a train because you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► at the proprietor as well of the certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► that the provider but the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► produced the circus yeah yeah yeahs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► watch him slowly go insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► it's it's kind of horrifying a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► all the background you have Prospero the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► enchanter and the enter enigmatic mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29 ◼   ► and i love this mr. aah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► chef Victoria also very Victorian oh I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► love that is so the separation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► Prospero is Caelius father who he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► she's delivered to him and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► yeah I guess she's one of mine he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► realizes she's got magic energy is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► all right well that's good and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► there's great stuff with him because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► know you could do this is a almost lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► kind of you know there's a abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► black man and white and they have a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► but goes on with the return but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► both kind of dicks like if they're bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► it's exactly yeah it's you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► that here and then prosper also you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► like oh he's magic and and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► yeah but he kind of is trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► something to himself and he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► everybody starts to disappear rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► that's the most beautiful thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► beautiful intelligent market when Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► asks like an amber necklace Ilya s Celia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► says what happened to your father he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► said well imagine what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► description was if you take a glass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► wine and your crew and you remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► glass if you did that in a bowl of water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► it's one thing but if you do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► ocean it's another well he tried for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► ocean equipment like oh wow yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► he's he's he's kind of a ghost now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► then mr. a you know eh ok under in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► yeah Alexandra generates not and the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► know and they have their game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► continues to go on and it's I i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that and that again is a way where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► that's a thing we've seen before and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► it didn't feel like it kind of comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► I mean in some ways it's it kind of ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► up being it's like nature versus nurture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► right is essentially a kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► they're arguing right is that we hit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► know Alexander says I can pluck you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► someone out and more orphanage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► yeah and teach him magic and he will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► able to beat someone who you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► who is like naturally talented i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► pull this flower girl from in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► this offer house and the teacher how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► speak with great elocutionist well as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► think it's interesting because Prospero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► is basically arguing for magic as flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► to a certain extent basically using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► is really lush yeah we're at but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► entirety of the circus is in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► magic is flash but with very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► contours based on whether it's sealed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► his attraction or marcos attraction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► the beauty of this whole thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► you know as you see these two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► collide and you realize that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► going to fall in love and you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► have that moment where where the old men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► who are playing a little game we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► gonna be like no no no no no your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► opponent's you can't no no no no and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► that's it that's enjoyable to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► like know they're sorry guys we are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► love now you know that there is it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► you know to me it was one of those again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► one of those sort of predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► elements that I saw coming but still you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► know saver done the last was that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► one of you has to die right here like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► order for this game to end like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► in some ways I i was surprised that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► don't like that silly and Marco don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► put that together earlier but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► that's just because i'm reading reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► a book and I understand how books work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► right well they're under the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► that there's some sort of resolution me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► a lot of this book involves them not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► knowing the rules and trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► out it is this a competition when does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► it happen is you know but it ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► being son of a collaboration and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► skirting around its any in a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► way out you know sort of collaborating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► on these wonders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► ya know I i will say I really dug it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► book i liked it i did like the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► hint that mr. aah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► she is Merlin right like that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► yeah i also took that away at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► there and yeah that was funny well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12 ◼   ► also mr. a and doing this a long time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► becomes less less and less offensive as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► he gets more and more engaged in what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► going on so so prosper becomes a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► and sort of fades away while mr. H [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► becomes increasingly human and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► as like almost too much sympathy for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► it's a little unconvincing how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► sympathy he develops i would say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► the only false know it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► slight but i like the character I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► that last conversation with him and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► guess it's a good it's a lovely little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► scene there and he's still kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► jerk but you get the impression that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► he's just he's become so disillusioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► no pun intended with the entire yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► know the entire history of magic yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► I've been doing this looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► something new it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► mmhmm yeah it's great so everybody it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► sounds like everybody has very positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► my-my thing about night circus is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► would buy that and add it to my physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► book collection which is a phrase that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► do not give too many books nowadays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► especially those workbooks so so I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► funny that you should say that I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► very limited number of things that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► recommend my wife is a librarian she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► read lots of books shirts shoes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► Children's Library Association reads a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► lot of kids books so she can recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► she has a limited willingness to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► along with crazy books that i recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► so I try to I try to recommend her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► really good stuff and and i absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► and unabashedly recommended this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► and said you got to read this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► and and do it now and that so that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► equivalent of your in your endorsement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► if I might actually buy this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► put it on the Shelf like I i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► went to trouble my wife and say no this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► one but of all these crazy books I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► you got to read this one I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► telling everyone they should go and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► and read this book because it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► I think it's one of the most beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► books i read in the last several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► wow it's very approach it's approachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► it's painless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► it's painless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► but it's in it's cuz you know he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01 ◼   ► my chicken it's like it's not over yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► is it requires you buy into a universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► dragon-like you just you can read here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► be dragons yeah you can read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► enjoy it without having to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► learn foreign languages that are made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► by the author right for instance Scott I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► thought it was i do agree i recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► to my wife that she read it and uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► last night she was very tired so at ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► o'clock i said okay you should go to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► i'm not tired so i will stay awake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► so she took her kindle into the bedroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► and lay down and an hour and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► later I want past bedroom and the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► was on and she was reaching the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36 ◼   ► circus and I said I thought you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► going to sleep and she was like oh but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► only have seven percent left so the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► at this reminded me of more than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► other we with the little time that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► got left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► I thought we talked about other badgett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► kind of things we want to bring up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► want to bring up Jonathan strange Mr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► Norrell which I think somebody mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► earlier by susanna Clark which is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► 2004 also a period in England you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► 19th century kind of story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► it's it's stylistically like that to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► know very Charles Dickens or or or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► guess austin and and I love that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► its enormous ism looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► yeah it might be difficult for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► people to get into because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► stylistic choices but i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► fantastic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► yeah it's got a little bit it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► like The Magicians to in a sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► there's a scary like it was like a fairy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► realm that they go into but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► everybody in your game a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► it's like it's basically like a history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► book of things that never happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► yelling but it's also got strange whimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► and it like the fact dollar there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► magicians but they're not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► majority just suddenly ragic historians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► how would anyone ever do magic well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► if there's a way there's a weird sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00 ◼   ► like there's a weird sort of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► drugs at the foot know what was there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► lot of footnotes but there's a narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► right there is a narrator who is not any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► of the characters know and who only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► occasionally just pops up and said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► splits or whatever in this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14 ◼   ► you're like who is this huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► but like in kind of it kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► delightful way that never really i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► it's never really explained or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► acknowledge I thought it was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► guys I said that actually is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► characters in the book is the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► Holly I all again i read it like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► Scott I don't know at all really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► time ago but I just I like that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► it is it seems kind of separate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► ancillary well like the footnotes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► this is one of those you know a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► page novel that I put out put a word in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► for a shorter novel the i recently read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► which I know scott also read I which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► my kohls control point which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► interesting sort of modern urban fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► you might classify classified as but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► a lot of it is sort of military fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► because it basically involves a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► where people manifest magical powers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► the government sort of has put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► lockdown on this and so few manifest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► one of these prohibited schools of magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► you're essentially you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► imprisoned by the army and so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► main character who is himself to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► a normal run-of-the-mill army soldier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► manifest in one of these schools and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► to decide whether he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► basically go on the run from everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► that he used to know and a surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► good book i had the pleasure of meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► Mike a conference here to put in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► Glenn moment and he's a super nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► and a really really interesting fellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36 ◼   ► who's currently living in a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► apartment so that he can eke out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► living as a writer but he's also way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► he's a military guy and so he has you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► know he writes this from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► authoritative perspective but it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► surprisingly engaging and finance so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► would definitely recommend it so I I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► something about this book and and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► the thing that's weird about it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► called channel control yeah well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► call ended up as a it's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► series it's just the way the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► marketed in the way they invented it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► feels like a video game spin-off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► something which is what I was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► was it feels like a franchise type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► and it's and I think that's unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► in fact I was just looking at the he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► just put up on Twitter now and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► just put it by the British the UK cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► for the book which i think is immensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► better than the Americans probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► look and we didn't say it was supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► to have another day because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► I made him change whether i said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► know i was talking to Dan on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► about this and I said yeah the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► much better than the cover and title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► would you lead you to believe and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► author said yeah the type that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► supposed to be the title is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► be a oh my goodness related some ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► was the name that he wanted to Layton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► right and instead it's generally not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► waffle constraint right so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► they're clearly selling to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► audience i think is the issue but i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► think that the British the British cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► looks a lot more serious and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► they drop drop the shadow ops part for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► that it's just called control point I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► which I still think is even better title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► than shadow puppets control point but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01 ◼   ► your regardless of the cover and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► the and the marketing I i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► worthwhile read pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► alright any other magical uh books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► you want to bring up with our remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► time I don't give a quick shout out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► Joe Walton in general I just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► reading among others a couple of moval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► which was beautiful and very well SH so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► Welsh rate very very adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► that's we mentioned it before it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► fantasy it's a fantasy book it is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► magic but it's also a but what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► about as science fiction so it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32 ◼   ► fantasy book about science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► there it but there is magic in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► she read sci-fi novels and yeah so lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► of scifi own now modely obsessed with go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► Walton so I watched a an hour-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► interview with her and the interviewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► asked her did you watch it through like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► a one-day hockey it wasn't really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► interview I was just stalking her for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► hour and she's so the interview after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► all you're gonna write a sequel to among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► others and Joe Walton said I she first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► explain her writing process where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► gets contracted to write a book she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► starts writing it and she gets bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► with it write another book and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► here's the book I wrote not the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► contract before which i think is great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► think also not uncommon for many credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► so she said what i could write a sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► to it but the only story I want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19 ◼   ► is about when the main character ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► on the moon and that's a 35 years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► now and in order to write that book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27 ◼   ► would have to create all the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► fiction novels that she read over those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► 35 years so I'm just not going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► alright well i have had a magical time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► discussing this with all of you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► yeah yeah no that wasn't good so so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► wrap up the magicians by lev grossman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► kinda got some interesting things in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► but sounds like that the consensus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51 ◼   ► pretty flawed and problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs submissions it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► issued a wheel the Night Circus by Erin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► Morgenstern I everybody seems to love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► up it isn't going on my shelf once i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► have shelves to put things apart right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► bad as a ringing endorsement and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► the other stuff among others Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► strange and mr. Durrell and shadow ops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► contratto ops control point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► alright so we're going to close up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► the incomparable club for now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:27 ◼   ► know what our next book selection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► going to be although the hugo nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► should be coming out shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► they're not out as you listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35 ◼   ► podcast so perhaps we will target some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► of those next I went so well last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► that will do it yeah well you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► that that's equal to feed dominated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► God it can be anything worse than I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► be there higher from this podcast if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► thats nomination ah so I've Jason I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► I'll step up all read them all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► something to read except every feedlot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57 ◼   ► yeah well you were your smartermail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59 ◼   ► reading you will be dilated are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01 ◼   ► asterisk at hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► it's all acceptable but so so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► a a an incomparable book club devote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► what I would say is watch our Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► feed or sign up for our Goodreads group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► and we will notify you through those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► mechanisms about what our next book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► selection will be yes and it in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► the meantime read a Jonathan strange mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29 ◼   ► Durrell or shadow ops control point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:33 ◼   ► among up you can get Jonathan strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► for three bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► look at that and it's like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► patients the because your page of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► deal is midnight blowing unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► but I'm tapping amazon now i'm topping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46 ◼   ► amazon right now we are where we sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► some copies of Jonathan strange & Mr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52 ◼   ► Norrell race true what does it take me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► to get you into this novel Dan because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► what are you gonna take you to throw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► a spare tire mileage level your test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► throw in some plots that's what huh oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► one click for me i'm done the test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► is the sample the kindle sample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► literally wrote some plots extra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► some formats right given NY minimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► and how about some footnotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► oh all the footnotes in Jonathan strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► mr. oh come from if you have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► if she knows that would draw you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► drive you a little bit nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► yeah do we fade slowly after a fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► without realizing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► no no I'm I'm I'm position to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► goodbye actually so until then whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► that time is when we reconvene the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► incomparable club i would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► my book club participants for again a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► delightful and magical time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49 ◼   ► serenity called well thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51 ◼   ► for joining us from your floating carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► high above Los Angeles where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► currently living with your magical cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► thank you and hopefully i will magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► be in boston the next time we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► book club podcast that's not use magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► because that would be a lot faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► yes that's how i'm getting there in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09 ◼   ► days but excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► I Glenn fleischmann from his uh his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► bunker in Seattle but right in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► there's a door that goes to fillory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► thank you for being here thank you for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21 ◼   ► thousand feet blue the surface of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► earth I thank you for not letting me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► this episode watch out for the love of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26 ◼   ► men knew Dan more'n i insert magic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► thanks for being my you always always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► run out inspiration when it gets to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► just really if I the door to fillory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► my in the back of my room I would break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► it over the Beast would come and destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► your pens so that's the bricks or flow i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► see a magic trick supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48 ◼   ► yeah why would you use non-magic bricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51 ◼   ► oh why would you get a job and earn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► money when you can just make all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► money with magic breaks and Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58 ◼   ► McNulty I thank you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► although you had pharma too much disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► action and not enough plot that is often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► commenters on amazon.com agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► yes also you had many show air-quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► jogo stations and I couldn't and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16 ◼   ► was a lot of silence for me I provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► the love silence so yes thank you thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► you for providing both your silence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► your insight about the parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► books that you could remember you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26 ◼   ► read a lot of things people i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► think i can't remember them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► you wouldn't want to that's why your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34 ◼   ► book amnesia save you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► you're saying like it perhaps have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36 ◼   ► curse of some kind of when i went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► fillory be magic that yes magic real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► magic magic is to blame for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45 ◼   ► this is scott is that Scott is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► an enchanted book to type but I'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51 ◼   ► enchanted e-reader that's who know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► initiated book but you've been you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► being punished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► Oh captured on me we're humans trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01 ◼   ► in a body that even exactly that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► alright closing up the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05 ◼   ► club then I'm Jason smell your host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07 ◼   ► until next time on the income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► well thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:12 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:18 ◼   ► this is probably the first new book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► while that I would consider actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22 ◼   ► buying physically and putting it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24 ◼   ► shelf of which is very limited right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27 ◼   ► since yeah basically homeless person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30 ◼   ► basically a homeless and living out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► boxes we prefer the term hobo you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:37 ◼   ► you know glad it's it's funny you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39 ◼   ► mention moby dick because was a Herman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41 ◼   ► Melville's great-granddaughter was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:44 ◼   ► English should know i'm just gonna know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► you're out where you got allowed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51 ◼   ► listen listen there's no puedo go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54 ◼   ► moby dick you say except for her comma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► splices that drives me not such a loser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59 ◼   ► for what misplaces she's continually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02 ◼   ► gluing to set in dialogues will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04 ◼   ► continually grew two sentences together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:05 ◼   ► with a comma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► what's the reasoning hummus places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08 ◼   ► misplaces yeah I don't know what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:11 ◼   ► this officer talking almost like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:14 ◼   ► size you're a writer kinda shit no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16 ◼   ► splices it's when it's when you insert a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18 ◼   ► comma when you should have a scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► you're seeing talking about like baba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22 ◼   ► ghanoush uses from recycling is famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25 ◼   ► places where there is actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27 ◼   ► one of the lens travel presents at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29 ◼   ► isn't even on this place and not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► it is black comedies white on this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36 ◼   ► not appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbsLihQ/4416">TS</a>]