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the incomparable number 306 2 2016
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable i am your host Jason stell
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I'm convening another edition I'm i
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merely the teaching assistant to
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professor John siracusa this is anime
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103 the third in our series of episodes
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in which John siracusa assigns us anime
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to watch and comment on
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hi John I Jason did you do the homework
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this week I did all the homework all
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that amazing you assigned less of it and
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therefore i did was just keep lowering
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the bar until you succeed I crossover
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that low bar that's what I did
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joining me as in addition to being a
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teaching assistant i am also a student
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joining me my fellow students in the
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anime one of three class allene sims
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hello hello
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I did the homework to at the last minute
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m which is pretty pretty on par for how
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I do things that's that's better as long
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as you have done before the class that's
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that's good enough and Erica and sign
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also i assumed it all the homework i did
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i did last night go see what makeup and
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once again I'm the anime teacher's pet
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yeah yeah alright John explain to us
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what did we watch and why did you choose
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what kind of back to the the original
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format which was multiple things by the
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same director or artists are you know a
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single person vision it was toned down
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this time telling me to two things were
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going to watch we watched too i guess
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you would call the movies both of them
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are very short
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more like short films by makoto shinkai
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and I like to think to myself and have
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only seen a little bit of his work that
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he has made the same movie three times
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we only watched two of them now I pick
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some book ends here the one in the
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middle we kind of skipped over i think
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it would've been fun to include up i
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think two is more than enough to get the
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flavor and the thing is I liked this
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movie all three times I saw it and I
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think is interesting things to say about
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each one it's not really the same I just
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you know you did this like like the
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first episode of this we did which I
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think was a photo she come you can see
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the through line you can see the artist
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you can see a single person's vision
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in our idea our sensibilities coming
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through and all these movies and I think
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that's the thing that's fun
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yeah so we watched voices of a distant
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star which is short
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it's what 20 minutes-ish and five
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centimeters per second which is a little
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over an hour long or it's basically an
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hour-long with a little over with
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credits but it's basically an hour long
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and so but what's interesting about five
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centimeters per second is it itself is
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split into three stories so it really is
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sort of like we watched for short
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stories that are kind of though I mean
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the man want the 15 centimeters per
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second are interlinked they are you know
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we follow a character through but
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they're all all connected and then you
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know John you nailed it i was actually
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really laughing when i got to the the
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when I opened five centimeters per
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second and flex and I saw the plot
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synopsis i just watched voices of a
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distant star and I just laughed because
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I was like oh okay so it's the same
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movie except with you were aliens got it
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their voices are just star which is when
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we should start with is that I i became
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to know it mostly because of its origins
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as this thing that one person
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essentially made with very little help
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usually animated movies no matter how
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strong the artistic vision behind it
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takes a team of people because it's
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really hard to get a draw lots of
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pictures and then there's voice acting
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and there's music and then there's but
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you know the sequence of putting it all
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together and this was a thing made or so
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the legend goes by like one person just
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did everything like got got his
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girlfriend to do the voices he did the
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other voice got a friend of his to do
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the music he drew all the animation he
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did all the very primitive early 2000
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cgi on his power mac g4 and just use the
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bunch of software programs that he had
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to essentially make a miniature movie
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all by his lonesome and so that's that's
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how I came to be attractive like wow
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someone's using a mac to make this anime
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thing about at this point I I like a dot
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on the merits and some of the sort of
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handmade home rolled a single person
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made this qualities show through in the
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movie but i still think it's charming
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yeah so let's start with voices of a
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distant star since that is the earlier
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of these two
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and I it is more traditionally anime i
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would say in the sense that most of em
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again i know i have a skewed view as an
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American of this is a genre but to me so
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much anime and and perhaps so much more
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in Japanese culture that American
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culture there is a sci-fi influence and
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but not not not all as we've seen with
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with other anime that we've seen and as
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well see with five centimeters per
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second actually but here we have it's
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your your your classic boy meets girl
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girl enters a robotic spaceship killing
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machine and goes to various far-off many
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light-years away locations and fights
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aliens happens every day in Japan
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typical you know it is tails all this
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yeah uh yeah hey yeah its beauty and the
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tar seein ya i was i was so in for this
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for a moment what I'd heard voices of a
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distant star but I had never watched it
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before so it was nice to have an
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opportunity to do that and just from the
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very beginning where you get the very
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opening sequence where she is you know
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she thinks she's in the classroom and
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then suddenly realizes that she's alone
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she's talking about how the world is
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places that her cell phone can can reach
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to send a message to and then realizes
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she's not in this world anymore and I'm
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like whoa what's going on as soon as I
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sort of figured out kind of where where
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they actually were in what was what was
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happening I mean I i admit i love
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teenybopper drama in anime category
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orange road has one of my favorite anime
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series is that seemed like I don't know
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middle school kids and takes place in
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basically in junior high and I adore max
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stuff like I don't care what people say
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the original three gun movies they're
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not boring i love them so this took kind
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of those to animate rope things that I
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love so much and jam them together into
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like this this stop choc full 25 minutes
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of the tropes that I like added you know
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and then later on top you get this kind
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of classic sci-fi trope of the time
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distances between different people who
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are we're talking and trying to send
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messages
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from light-years apart so it was kind of
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like it was tailor-made for one me
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yeah i mean this so the story is the the
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girl whose name is Ayano borough is the
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boy was just does she have a name me is
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a macaque oh it's becca yeah I'm she boy
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and girl meet but you know she goes off
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and joins the the United Nations
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spaceflight or as it's labeled on the
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side of one of the buildings or maybe
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it's the train its United Nations spacey
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which i think is you'll see an anime
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many times over
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united nations spacey I and so she goes
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and she's in one of these like Max and
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there that we learned the backstory that
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aliens attack Mars and there are the the
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tarsi and ruins where the where the
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aliens attacked in the tarsus crater and
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so she is now out among the stars for
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she's a Pluto she's marshy the Pluto and
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then they're going to go a light-year
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away and then there and then they end up
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eight light-years away at serious and
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she is sending on her little um on her
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little cell phone that's like the old
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style whereas your texting it makes the
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Ted touch tones and stuff and there's
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she said it was just adorable off now
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introduce exc sending texts like what is
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that t nine is she sending texts the
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Japanese equivalent to back to the boy
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who is back there and so like Erica said
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you get the time-dilation thing it's not
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quite the problem
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thirdly it speed of light so it she
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sends these messages and he's not going
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to get them for a year or eight years
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but if they go faster than the speed of
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light it doesn't mean she couldn't get
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back faster than that it's I sometimes
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in this I felt like that maybe the story
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thought that she was kind of
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time-traveling forward but that that
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didn't seem to make sense to me all I
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don't know maybe that's not how this
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works but I got hung about that a little
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they could they could were back but the
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ideas they're not going to do not do
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never intended there other difference to
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the target she's on this mission yeah
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they could work back like in other words
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she could outrun her messages background
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the whole ship could warp lesson today
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back today but that's not how it's gonna
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go don't listen to that message i sent
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eight years from now you're gonna get a
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half of a message but ignore it i'm back
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you know it's the story of its like like
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a message from far away like from from
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in the past when it would take longer
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for communication happened that's what's
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happening here so so they're separated
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and now it's like I you know it's been a
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year and you see him a year older and
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then it's been eight years and you see
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him eight more years older and that's
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this is not exactly still 15 or whatever
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it's still don't know but it's this
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long-distance letter-writing kind of a
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kind of longing for one another but it's
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far away and there's nothing they can do
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about it sadness that is is also i
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didn't know that the standard uniform
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for driving a mac in it is a schools are
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14 minutes apart surprisingly versatile
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in Japan yes can use it for many
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occupations thanks United Nations this
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this thing it you know and you know that
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all the all the traditional anime
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stereotypes and trucks that are in this
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you've got you know you've got school
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girls you got the kids in middle school
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you have young people piloting max I
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think this one does lots of shots of
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power lines
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yeah but this one does a pretty good job
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of mixing the two because that theme of
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story of like a bunch of kids in school
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and they're going to have relationships
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and all sorts of problems in dramas
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that's that's common to many cultures
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including Japan and lots of stories
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about that and this one
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intermix is the the tech stories with
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that story as if it's two separate anime
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so it's pretty much entirely devoted to
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the relationship thing and and you know
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people wondering about feelings and
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being distant from each other and all
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that stuff and just slices and dices it
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right in with people in space and stuff
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she's hesitant to tell him that she's
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going to be going because she knows it's
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going to be sad and she's kind of also
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leaving him behind it she is the smarter
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and more skilled of the two she's she's
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able to go on this mission he's not so
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that the important thing you should have
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to tell her her you know friend /
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boyfriend is that she has to go fly
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giant robots but it could just as well
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say moving to a different town as well
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see in the next movie and that same
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thing when she's in this whole movie
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just fighting aliens
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she's just training shooting down drones
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protecting her fleet all that is going
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on and yet the narration and the scenery
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and everything about it is all about
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worrying about this boy back home and
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the distance between them and like as an
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she's shooting aliens yeah which I love
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because it it really gets at the sort of
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the feeling that it pervades all the all
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of his stuff really like what is it like
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to be a kid of this age encountering
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these feelings so the first time how
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all-consuming is that it's so
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all-consuming that it trumps everything
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else like being in a giant robot
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shooting aliens and fighting for the
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survival of humans across light-years
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and everything like that that is that is
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almost a sideshow to the the emotional
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turmoil that is that the heart of the
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story and i love i love the
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juxtaposition those things and clearly
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this director does too he he loves many
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things the table come back to many times
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but the putting everyday life against
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the massiveness of Space and Technology
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and aliens is is always a fun
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juxtaposition I find an anime when the
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her spaceship is about to go into space
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warp and get jump light-year away sheet
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we get the shot of her inside her mac
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and she's really upset because like her
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phone is floating in zero g and she's
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like oh but if I don't send my text
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messages before we jump there then
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they're not going to go for a year and
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that's like that's the end she like is
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meanwhile yeah occasionally blasting
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enemies and getting over to the ship so
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that she doesn't get left behind but
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she's also very concerned about her text
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going out which is kind of adorable
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mhm and and I think the little film
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makes you as the the viewer also be
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concerned about her to getting your
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texts that might be mostly because it
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doesn't spend a lot of time telling you
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all about the mission and the aliens and
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like that is that is not the world that
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our characters are are in right there
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just you know just heard you're up to
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this world whatever it's just it's just
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work right and even barely that because
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she even even share as this precocious
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child who is
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qualified to pilot these next for
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whatever reason that they always end up
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five lines max she's a little bit in
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over her head to like she's all just
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kind of crunched up in her little pop
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there we don't see lots of friends and
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people and superiors talking to her even
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like the other pilots in the other
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mixture connection is entirely back home
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so we don't want her to lose that
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connection even as we see the giant ship
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like crackling and warping beneath her
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like some ship could warp out and she
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would be there is stranded in space and
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dead or the aliens could attack and kill
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her and the ship but we really worried
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or at least I am watching it
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she should get that phone back she's
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gonna be eight years away and you don't
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get it's like long-distance relationship
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is one thing she said it's kind of like
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air mail and they're like no not airmail
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8.6 light-years deal with that I think
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they did a really good job or the art
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style is really good at showing how
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isolating that feeling is to like that i
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don't want to be say like unrequited
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love but you know that i don't know like
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having a crush on somebody and knowing
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that nothing is going to come of it is
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really kind of in isolating feeling like
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you could have contact and you know
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whatever but really you're kind of alone
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in it and I thought that the way you
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know the the mac kinda faded in and out
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and you know in in for battles and then
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kind of out during you know the the
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frantic text messaging and I thought it
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Illustrated it really well
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yeah definitely and I mean I mentioned
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the shots of power lines which is a
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thing that I have seen in a lot of
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different anime i think used to for sort
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of different reasons in different ones I
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I kind of like to sort of anachronistic
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idea that in this case the power lines
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are supposed to sort of represent the
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communication and the fact that her
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messages are are going along these you
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know totally different types of lines
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but we keep getting reminded of of
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communications by by looking at the at
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the power lines over and over and over
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again so my favorite thing and anime as
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i mentioned every one of these episodes
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so heavily featured in this like most of
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the time anime has one or two scenes
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that do this thing where they will show
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you some moment or sensation or whatever
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like this one almost the entire thing is
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made up of seems like that and it is so
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pervasive because it's not just like one
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shot that takes you like to a different
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place the different headspace the whole
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movie takes you two different headspace
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and it combines to give you an
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incredible sense of of place like it's
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clear that the people who made this
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movie this place that they're showing
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you all these different scenes and every
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lingering detail on a railing a
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powerline a set of fences or barriers in
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a city or asphalt or like just the way
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they're the this is real place on earth
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that they're very intimately familiar
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with the camera spends a lot of time not
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pointing at people's faces or maybe not
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pointing characters that also but just
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showing things like I mean we know this
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guy likes trains go they go back and
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forth he likes the details of the little
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guardrails that come up and down the
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power lines everyone and not just that
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the power lines of the communications
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but there are so many of them that this
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is clearly like you know nineties a era
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Japan where the number of wires going
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everywhere like the density of the
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population the number of wires going
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over is just insane and all the nature
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and the nature sounds everything like
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that it's it's very unconventional
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reconstructed it's almost kind of like a
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Terrence Malick movie or something where
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you have all these lingering shots of
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city machinery and nature and empty
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rooms with nobody in them and with just
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some lightning wind blowing through them
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and you're like it is this is a is this
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a tone poem versus actual and actually a
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narrative but this movie managers I
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think to construct a narrative mostly
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out of scenes not involving characters
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let alone characters in modem you're
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talking like this
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I don't know if he was up for the you
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know how much times attempt they spend
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showing a character space with emotion
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on it almost all the emotion this movie
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is done through what the characters c
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and and what it reminds me mostly of is
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like like a memory like your live this
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this whole movie is like a memory
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because you live something that's like
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yeah you go through your day or whatever
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but when you think back oh that that
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summer I spent in Tokyo or whatever you
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think back on these type of moments and
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this is like a memory reached backwards
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it came all the way back to the present
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and these people are living in it now
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even though this is how they're going to
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remember it later it's it's really weird
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sensation it's a and it's something that
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animation conduct can do pretty well
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because people are more count tolerant I
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think of unconventional storytelling
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when it's animated and especially when
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you have robots flying around and they
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don't mind that you're going to spend a
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seven-second shots showing the little
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heater that's in a little building for
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in the wintertime when it gets cold
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no it actually took me until the second
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movie before I recognize pick out was
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because because it wasn't like doing
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anything that's like huh I wonder what
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that is and then later and adapt you
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what you'll see it again don't worry i
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think the I think that this does a
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better job of it visually than it does
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you know from put anchoring you in a in
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a place in a feeling than it does when
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it comes to the actual sort of narration
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and info dumps and stuff when it first
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started I didn't mind the info dumps at
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the beginning because at the very very
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beginning you've got the two kids
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together in in life and it's this hyper
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active young boy who is just jabbering
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on a mile a minute which seems very very
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realistic he's talking about space and
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all that kind of stuff so that's that's
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where you learn about that it didn't
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strike me as you know well as you know
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Bob it wasn't one of those because it
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was just the way kids talk and then when
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it was messages being read out loud in
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between them you know in either one of
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their voices that was fine too because
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those are the messages that they are
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reading and hearing in the other
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person's voice in their head so that was
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fine but as it got kind of towards the
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second half towards the end it was it
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was really most of it was just voiceover
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from especially the boy talking to
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himself or just doing a voiceover I
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guess to tell us how he made his
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decision to live his life in his time
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and how he stuck with that but but those
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words were not really diegetic in any
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way they weren't him reading off a
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message they weren't him writing in a
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diary at least not that we can see so I
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felt like it's stuck out a little bit
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more like a sore thumb because there was
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no in story reason for it whereas
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earlier in this piece all of the all of
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the words that we were getting really
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were a part of the fabric of what it was
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we were seeing it's almost like we had a
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time crunch there it's like
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let me get this thing finished at some
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point he knows all and i also wonder if
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it was kind of intended to be if i could
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get an email to her in a timely manner
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this is what it would say like that's
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the thing that I've I do all the time as
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I compose things that I never actually
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right in my head and so maybe that's
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that can be a way to kind of hand waving
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okay to just very much felt like he was
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talking to us and not himself
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yeah yeah i mean like this a problem
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with the structure of this movie as you
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have these two and you pull them apart
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at a certain point that distance become
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so great that the boys left sort of
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abandoned but if you don't introduce any
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other characters who does he have to to
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tell this too is only so much you can
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this movie is to write us to just said
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bad translation to but it's very it's
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very overblown and dramatic and and so
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that's you know and so that that's the
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the dialogue but at the same time very
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often it's intercut with these but I
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tech very beautiful poignant scenes of
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you know ship space warping or you know
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the wind blowing or sun setting so a lot
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somewhat stilted writer order to forgive
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the you know the the blabbering of
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lovesick teenagers being like this this
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animation is really nice though that was
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very clever that was very well done and
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I have to but also just being impressed
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that this one guy newly on his computer
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did all this stuff and you know like it
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as you know this because I know what
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comes after as I see the promise like as
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i see you know the these ideas and this
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artistic sensibility and this way of
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telling stories plus more experience
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more time and a lot more money and I
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don't have to imagine what that looks
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like because we actually see it but
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anyway and and I also think that the
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story on this one it got times it
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doesn't
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is it more complete and conventional the
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other one anyway this one definitely go
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somewhere things happen there are
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battles right yeah IDK what weird at the
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end which is another thing that's kind
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of typical of a lot of everything I've
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yeah there's that moment where the so
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much for there's a moment where the
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aliens kind of come on to her neck and
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kind of attached and then she like blast
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them away that I couldn't decide what
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that meant and if that was an attack or
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an attempt to connect or whether
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everything that happens after that is a
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dream because they've gotten her brain
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or you know they just it was like my ok
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that happened which does happen to me a
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lot when I'm watching animes like all
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right go with it roll with it
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um but they do get they do get to the
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light when she's on the planet
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there's almost like a moment of like
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she's like she's flying around she's
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kind of looking at the at the at the the
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sky and all of that and she's feeling
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kind of nostalgic and it's almost like I
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wish I could share this with you moment
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that i thought was a pretty great bit of
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visual or she wishes she could be back
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in a convenience store and getting wet
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terrain because that's like she's she's
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on an alien planet and a giant Maxine
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things and no human has ever seen before
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and she just wants to to you know be
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down at the corner store where we had to
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run to get out of the rain that one time
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story it is that and you guys lived to
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it which is it the room as an adult I
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look at this and think in reality that
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that boy has nine years where he's
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gotten to text messages from her and I
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felt like the absence of other people in
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his life is the part that I thought and
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i get i get the romantic aspect of this
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and why they wanted to keep that but she
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you know she's staying 15 not only has
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he now nine years older than her but
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he's lived nine years he's presumably
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let's be serious here he had other
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people in his life other relationships
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you know with with just people in
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general that he probably isn't like in a
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room by himself for nine years and it
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makes that way more messy and
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complicated and and it not destroyed it
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that they want to tell here which is
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this is this special relationship that
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will go on through time and space but it
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in a way that five centimeters per
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second doesn't do this movie keeps it
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kind of idea like you know what they say
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Jason near far wherever you are I know
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your heart I something without a heart i
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think i think they're actually telling
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the story they want to tell here because
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this this whole sure is is supposed to
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be about that feeling you have when you
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were this age that this first love is
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going to be the only one and this one is
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that's from her perspective it works for
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me but I know not like I I understand
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what you're saying that that is it seems
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i really have the board with that but no
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it is to the audience is trying to be an
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audience feel that thing that they felt
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and I think they get away with it mostly
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because from from the boy's perspective
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like all we get is when he's younger sis
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I'm harden my heart and then we don't
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have him mooning over 49 years we just
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skip to the end essentially when he gets
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the text messages and he shocked and I
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can imagine him living his normal life
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for those nine years doing all the
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things you talked about we didn't get to
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see that we weren't living that with him
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we're still living her
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yeah upset feelings on the planet and
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you can also imagine him getting that
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text message and being like oh I you
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know like you bury it you push it down
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you forget all about it you live your
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life then it comes back in a second
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because you just you know it's like he
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by then he probably will have forgotten
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that he was even gonna be getting this
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text messages from those ratios and also
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by the way they show that he's kind of
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keeping up with the space thing because
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you still kinda into that right now he's
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gotta go gezina and stuff
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the moving pictures the harry potter
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picture yeah well and the cover of that
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magazine essentially tells you the
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result tells you the result of the final
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battle that the use of you have not yet
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seen which I thought was clever where
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they tell you the other ships were
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destroyed the only one
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has just returned the one that she was
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on like you you know that how that's
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going to work out you don't know that
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she's a pivotally involved in it but
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he's keeping up with that you could say
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skipping out that because it's like he's
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holding a a flame for her but he could
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just still be into space
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he did cover a little bit because he
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even says in his his out loud dialogue
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that that he stuck to his guns and he
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did leave his life without her and he's
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got his military service that's about to
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start so so I mean you get like tiny
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little hints of the fact that he has
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been living his life but I i do like the
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fact that the the moment that he gets
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his the text from her that he does
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happen to be alone and we do get to
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experience that sort of you know purity
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of just having these two characters
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interacting and no nobody else muddying
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things up and get a lot of its gotta be
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like budget like drawing more people is
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harder getting more voice actors you
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only have you and your girlfriend to do
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the voices like it's this is a small a
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small film and all the ways things have
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to be small where and think about it for
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for a short movie like this is a fairly
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complicated involved high-concept type
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of thing here with this a lot of plot
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involving the entrance is not really
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important to the story accepted as like
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a contrast to the rest of the story and
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you said towards the end we have to have
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things progress we have to have them go
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eight years away but we can't show you
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like this is not an episodic thing where
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we get to see to their you know
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adventures and and separated by time to
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list of you have to have to kind of
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bring this to a big finish and the Big
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widely separated by time because her big
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finish is you know not that long after
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the beginning of the movie and his is
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many many years is you know after all
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that has ended so we don't actually know
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what happens to her in the eighth
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obviously she doesn't come back to earth
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because i think they wouldn't mention
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that but she's she's dead out there with
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the aliens you find and then the toxins
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are totally typical and me we're not
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gonna explain these aliens guess it's
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supposed to be ambiguous you don't know
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where they tryin to be friendly
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are you know who is the bad guy or the
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humans the bad guy or the alien is
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totally not clear at all the horrors of
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war the fact that she's killing because
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she's been trained to kill
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but is that has ambiguous feelings about
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it has as all young teenagers who pilot
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giant mechs do it sometime or another
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it i don't know I I dogs is a lovely
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mixture of like fanservice and known
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definitely weirder than those other
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shows that are much more conventional in
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the treatment of both the the teenage
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love story and the aliens vs humans
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battle this week's edition of the
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uncomfortable is brought to you by like
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beginning is apparently the speed at
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which cherry blossoms fall huh is
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actually true do anything like that
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don't fact-check I don't want to know
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what that's going to say license that's
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why they that's why it's apparently
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called that this is going to be the
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story of tono who we meet here in part
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so three parts in this story part one is
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called cherry blossom we learned that
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the cherry blossoms following are
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apparently if I centimeters per second
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because that's totally the title of the
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movie and we meet tono and his friend
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akari and yes indeed this is a film that
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has a very similar plot to the voices of
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a distant star except way fewer aliens
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and space max but the the boy and girl
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who meet and become fast friends
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early on in school and then are
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separated just as they're reaching
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adolescents is absolutely the same story
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here except here it's just she moves
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away and then and then I think he moves
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away or he moves away and then she moves
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away and so they're separated by
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distance and they're separated by even
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further distance later on and I and so
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it's told in these in these three
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segments and in the product that thing
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that i found most impressive for our
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most important in the cherry blossom
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segment is we spend a whole lot of time
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with without with tono on a train going
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to see her it's been a year since they
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said goodbye and and he wants to go see
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her and he has to take a train to
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another train to another train to
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another train and there's snow and there
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are delays and and the the movie takes
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and it's only an hour long but we take a
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long time to experience the nervousness
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of not just of seeing her for the first
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time in a year but the end and obviously
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he's had a lot of time to think about
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her because they were they were friends
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before but they've been sending letters
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and and he's been thinking about a lot
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and now he's super nervous about the
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whole thing and stressed about the trip
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and their snow and there are delays and
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keeps looking at his watch because he's
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supposed to be there at seven and it
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gets later and later our expressing his
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is a passionate love for he's carrying
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that with him too
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yeah exactly and and so that that's the
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thing that sticks with me from this part
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is that is that time it's not all on the
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train and we we see i should say because
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it's important later that opening scene
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they're crossing train tracks and the
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cherry blossoms are coming down
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phone that's also paired with the last
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shot of the movie that comes much you
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know comes at the end when it's much
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later in their lives but I that train
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stuff is going to stick with me for a
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very long time the thing that blew me
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away about this film in general in this
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segment in particular is the almost you
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know photorealism or hyper realism of
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the scenery there are light effects
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there's reflections on desks there's
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wrote those reflections and on glass
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there's rain dripping down that was
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super realistic because that obviously
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is computer-aided stuff there's a
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flickering fluorescent light on the
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train at one point which just blew me
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yes PFI and yet it still feels like
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anime because the characters are all
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like anime looking you know looking like
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their cell drawn they behave like
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traditional anime but they are in this
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world that is beautiful and like i said
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i wrote down photorealistic and then I
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changed it to kind of hyper realistic as
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hyper as beyond it it's not it doesn't
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always look real but it looks like more
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there's some message like boards with
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the information about where the trains
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are coming that it's like I would love
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real message boards to look like that
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they don't all they do if they do in
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Japan maybe they do these are super like
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impressive
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it's just amazing that look it looks
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like a memory everything looks like a
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memory because it glows and and and
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between dimensions land of letters on
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but it's so clear that everyone involved
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in making this is obsessively dedicated
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to the details like that first 129 T
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cell phones those screens on the 90 cell
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phones like so so dedicated to making a
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realistic-looking screens
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yeah that may or may not be exact copies
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of actual products and all these like
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it's the same thing that there was
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attempted voices of a distant star
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they're not exact because there's a mac
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in this movie and there's no apple menu
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there's just all the other menu so yeah
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it's pretty it's pretty obsessive they
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created the maggots kinda it's kinda
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like when a perfect blue you know the
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details are are like the keyboard like
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that they sat down and then they had the
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actual things and drew them but all the
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stuff about is all different places i
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think the wikipedia page has some shots
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and voices it just started shows the
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actual places in the animation so it's
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almost as if it's rotoscoped just every
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setting seen gadget in this is
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so like this when somebody shot showing
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pens and pencils and maps and lots and
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lots and lots of shots of things things
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and places and scenery and nature and
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the sound of bugs in the summertime and
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the hot Sun and every little item in the
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room or the convenience store or
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wherever it is you know the school and
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and the desks and the erasers and and
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all your notes in your mechanical pencil
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i love that stuff because like I said
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you'd normally anime we just have a
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couple of scenes that and this is an
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entire movie of it combined with like
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you said the hyper-real that the world
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there and it almost looks like an alien
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planet at certain points it's like a
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dream sequence was kind of an alien
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planet but even the regular planets look
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like does did the sky and the clouds
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never look like that like they did when
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you're in love and 11 I guess
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alright and so this the whole movie is
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his view through through that lens and
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it is amazing looking and I really feel
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like voices distant star was trying to
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do this but the talent and money and
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time are not yet they're here was like
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six or seven years later is a you know
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sort of a realization of the same vision
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only cranked up to 11
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yeah I i watched voices of a distant
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star in and then followed it immediately
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with this so at the very beginning of
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this um I i was a little bit bored
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because I just felt like the beginning
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of the cherry blossom part seemed kind
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of interminable we had all of those
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letters from a Kauri it was really just
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mostly from her and I didn't feel
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connected to her as a character at all
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so I was kind of like oh boy what am I
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in for for a whole hour of this because
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I knew is longer and then when it
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switched over to tonos train journey
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everything changed that was that was
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when i bought in for the same reasons
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jason said like everything was real
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around it I was like I could relate to
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that tension i found myself just like
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you know my my shoulders kind of
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creeping up to around my ears going on a
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journey like that you know being nervous
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about it in the first place and then
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having it be delayed and interrupted in
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the frustration that brings and you know
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John you always mention that the tiny
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beautiful moments that that you love and
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you're right this one was was completely
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full of them but two of my favorites
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were during the train journey I think
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maybe my favorite moment of the whole
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thing was when he's on the train and it
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well before any of the delays start
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happening it's still just the
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nervousness of setting out to see her
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and he reaches into his pocket for his
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itinerary like he's gonna pull it out
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for like the hundredth time and look at
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it again and then he realizes he doesn't
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need to look at it again he's seen it
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enough times he's just doing it out of
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nervous habit so he doesn't even pull it
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all the way out he sort of talk sit back
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and back and restrains himself and I i
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have done that i have been there that
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moment was just it was just pure gold
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and then shortly after once it's snowing
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there's this great shot of a close-up of
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the inside of a train window where
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you've got you know the moisture has
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cooled on the inside of the window and
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just around the edges you get like ice
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where it's just iced up just around the
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window pane and there's no people in it
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you just see a tiny bit of outside and
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mostly it's just ice it from the inside
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of a window and it just it it cut
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through to the heart of me it was great
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and the details a lot of these shots
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like that are extreme close-ups with
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detail not only is the stuff you're
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supposed to look at incredibly
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interesting detail but there are often
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like labels or even like on glass labels
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that are on the outside so their labels
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that are stuck on backward from our
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perspective they're everywhere it's
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fascinating it's just yeah all of that
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and like like I said the flickering
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fluorescent light killed me i also was
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interested by the scene where he um he
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at one point is very tired he takes his
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watch off and set it on the table next
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to him but that's after he's like that's
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it forget it because i can't keep
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looking at this watch I'm gonna forget
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your watch if you leave it in the
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training to do yeah you know those
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details like there were so many almost
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real-life logos you know like they
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changed a letter or they changed like
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starbucks mcdonalds they change a letter
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or a little detail in the logo to make
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it just slightly different and I really
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really enjoyed that and the beginning of
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it I think Eric I felt kind of part of
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what you were feeling to where I was
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like is this could be an hour of her
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talking to him and letters and we just
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kind of see what he's doing and I think
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that kind of once i realized that wasn't
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going to be the entire thing I felt a
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lot better about it like exactly yeah
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like a teenage girl pining after boys
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you know that
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I've done that I think this is something
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I've experienced so I don't know that I
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necessarily want to relive that and once
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they got into you know actually telling
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the story of the journey and and can it
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interlacing their background and their
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relationship i felt a lot better about
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yeah actually the one point where i did
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finally sort of not completely by into
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akari as a character but when he gets to
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the station and you know he's he's just
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so tense and he's been waiting all this
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time and then you find out that she has
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she's just been sitting there all by
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herself waiting for him to show up and
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he gets there and he walks up to her and
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when she realizes he's finally there
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it's like she can't quite believe it she
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just all she can do is clutch his coat
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and cry like that moment totally
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resonated because you know you're just
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so overcome with emotion you have no
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real way to let it out and she is not
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quite comfortable enough with him in
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person to embrace him or even look up
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and meet his eyes she's so worn thin by
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all this waiting all she can do is just
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cling to the hem of his coat and cry
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unto her shoes and oh my god I broke
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down at that point I just lost it he's
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four hours late for the record he was
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supposed to be there at seven it's about
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eleven-fifteen when you arrive you're a
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person who likes to be on time don't
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watch this movie oh yeah it was really
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in addition to all the emotional turmoil
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like like that but that doesn't feel the
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same way about that the train being late
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seem like they just do everything right
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in that from myself from that from the
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showing showing things that you know you
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know the people who made this movie had
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to have ridden trains during the winter
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right you know show is like and and it
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makes you when you recognize something
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like that if they I've read and trains
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limited to have also seen that for us
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and I've also been on that train with
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the Flickinger prickling for fluorescent
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light and with a bunch of strangers or
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maybe I'm alone in the car and that
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feeling like that makes you believe all
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the other things they show like I've
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never been in a weird convenience store
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in Japan but they have these little
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drinks that are in boxes that have cows
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in them or whatever
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re coffee right yeah but but i totally
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buy that is that must be just as real as
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as the things that's all that they show
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the train from the outside sitting still
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attracts who hasn't been in the train
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that's like why are we not moving yeah
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like your head is better now you're in
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the snow
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you're in the middle of nowhere in the
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dark the train has lights it's as
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on the inside it's shining light
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something outside everyone in the car is
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silent and the train is not moving and
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how long are you gonna sit there and all
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the while you're thinking just like how
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late am I like when that time passes
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when he's supposed to have been there is
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going away from even thinking through
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his journey yeah she weighed in a
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certain point is like please just
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anything tonight yeah yeah yeah he's
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surprised when he sees her
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yeah I had this push all the buttons i'm
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somebody likes to be on time I've been
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on stressful journey is like this trains
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and planes and things like that
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I i flew from California to Michigan to
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see my girlfriend in high school and it
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was exactly like this exactly like the
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stress of the whole thing with the
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anticipation and then and then you know
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to be late like this then he's got a
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whole other layer of feelings that are
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like disemboweling the anticipation
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feelings and there was just kind of
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amazing but they do settle down i have
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to say when they get to they get to get
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to this point and and they calm down a
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little bit and they did they haven't
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shut down they do they do shut down the
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station but at this point they haven't
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quite yet bullshit she brought food we
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brought food to his next he eats what
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appears to be a puffball of some sort
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but he's very hungry so he eats it think
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it's rice
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yeah yeah rice balls you got some little
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octopus or squid in there like I you
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know the the fascination for for
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Japanese people that probably looks like
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a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with
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us but us all exotic look at the cute
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with their little sort of like a dog toy
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or something like that it was very large
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and fluffy
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I ever mentioned that he lost his letter
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halfway through this journey into is he
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right as the journey gets worse and
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worse the weather the wind blows the
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letter out of his hand he's just you
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know he's he's a broken person and he
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totally doesn't expect to see he's like
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walking into defeat to say i I'm so late
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i'm just going to go and then I don't
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even know what his plan was but he
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didn't expect to see here there and
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there she is an area this is where you
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got the little heating stove with the
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the the pan of water on top of it acting
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is like a humidifier for the room they
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got me because there's the scene at the
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beginning right where she feeds him
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she's like oh it's probably not very
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good we get the impression that maybe
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it's the first time she's tried to put a
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meal together or at least you know for
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someone special and then at the end we
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you know would we get back to
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heard they're like saying something
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about her fiance and you know make sure
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you cook for him and I was like oh did
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they get back together and no yeah cuz I
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thought that they were they were
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harkening back to that early arduous
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journey but yeah this is because they
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don't spend a lot of time showing you
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character spaces or any part of the
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characters are also the most of the time
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looking at objects and scenery you know
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it's difficult the last sequence of this
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movie is difficult to track on first
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viewing of who the characters involved
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are because they don't name them and the
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characters don't have conversations
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face-to-face with each other but yeah
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that's why this and the other one
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repeated viewings help just to keep
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track of the plot and i think that's
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that's kind of the fault of the movie to
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know for not being more clear because
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you really have to establish things like
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that before you can play off of them
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were just kind of a shame but it's also
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unfortunately a something that's typical
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of anime we're not gonna spend a lot of
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time identifying characters and people
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are going to tend to look the same
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especially in this with have time to
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draw the character spaces there just an
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empty blank ya head with hair on them
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because I not where you're supposed to
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be looking at or they will play all that
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well they were not draw the face and
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then all of a sudden draw the face with
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eyes and it's like you know that the
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face comes into being but most of the
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time most of time looking at snow and
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trees and listening to insects murmur
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and light reflected off little metal
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things are just fine with me so they get
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their shoot out of the station station
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closed down no more trains and they go
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to like a shed in a field
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yep well first things first they have
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their kiss under the tree that you had
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an awesome tree
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yeah that got me too i got a little
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weepy that momentous well I always watch
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anime and wonder where the parents are
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like aren't your parents worried about
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yeah I kind of get the feeling like so
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his his trip he spent a lot of time also
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like planning this trip is all these
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little diagrams and and her little
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diagrams like where he's going to be in
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when he's got this all planned out if he
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said it was the first time going to
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speak train station by himself so I feel
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like he's of the age where he's allowed
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to go on this long trip and his parents
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understand that he's doing this I don't
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know maybe some more permissive culture
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to allow your twelve-year-old to travel
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across the country to see his a his
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friend from way back what I mean I don't
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get the feeling that disobeying the
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parents get the feeling that
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greater allowed to do it was the
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nineties you know everything anything
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flew the boat
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although it's also key that this happens
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before cellphones become pervasive
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because I should have called cult you
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know it's all gonna be a little late or
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you should go home or whatever here they
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have the habit of action businesses just
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before everyone had so I had I had those
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moments in this where it was just like
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how if only they could call and say but
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how you can't also he goes back the next
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morning so i also had that thought of
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like it was this his grand plan was like
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look I can just take the train that will
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take a while but i can go out there and
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then we can see each other and then I'll
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just come back in the morning and will
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be like you know he's moving he's moving
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like the next day always just let this
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is the last minute maybe so but they
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spend time together under the blanket
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and they are talking they talk all night
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which I thought was adorable because I
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guess they're they're young enough that
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i don't know you you go all that way to
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and find the boyfriend-girlfriend
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essentially they kiss and then they go
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to a shack with a talk on a toggle night
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well the high from that first kiss can
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carry you through the rest of the whole
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night it's not like they you know they
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don't that better need anything else
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there it's gonna take all night for them
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to come down from the kiss and so just
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snuggling in the blank I thought that
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was appropriate for the age and although
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I'm not quite sure they didn't die from
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exposure but apparently a very warm
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blanket
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yeah and and the shack is super
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insulated so they say goodbye and he
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goes off on the on uh on the train in
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the morning and I before we get to the
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the other segments i want to say the
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last so he has a voice over here where
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he talks about sort of his regret saying
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goodbye to her and knowing that he's
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gonna move away and so they're going to
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be even further away from each other
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than they are already and he uh one of
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the things he says like the last thing
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he basically says is i wanted to protect
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her and I wrote this down with a large
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WTF next to it because i didn't like
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this line at all because of whatever
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represents it is a it that is the best
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thing you can think when you're leaving
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her is what you want to be as her
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protector and save her from the world
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that is just that
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yeah that made me angry because that is
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kind of a stupid and sexist and awful so
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I was in it took me out of it
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I had the same feeling but actually have
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being that feeling sort of helped me buy
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into the next section because I cared
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about him less at that point huh well so
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like we this too is multiple levels of
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this one is the japan is not really not
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really lagging i would say behind most
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of the rest of the world in terms of
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their view of women's role in society
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and that is reflected in the Arthur they
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produce so that's definitely one angle
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susceptible to it and I bet that is what
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he would be thinking that if this boy
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this time in this place but it does not
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make him a sympathetic character from an
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adult perspective best you can do is
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understand i remember when i was young
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and a young and stupid boy would seem
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too many stories that put the wrong
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ideas into his head about the
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relationship between men and women but I
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started for me it comes off as if the
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artist and the movie think that is the
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deepest and most passionate important
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feeling you can have about a woman yeah
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and not playing it as if this boy
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doesn't is dumb and doesn't know the
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ways of the world yet because that is so
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typical way of thinking of that which is
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it's the man's job to protect her and
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it's like he wasn't I want to spend time
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with her i want to you know I want to
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help her
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I want to be her friend and and and you
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know be with her it was I want to
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protect her
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that was his well as possessiveness yes
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exactly and I and I'm you know it's
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difficult to walk that line because I
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really feel like it in any in no matter
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how enlightened the age i think that is
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a feeling that boys have right at that
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age especially when they have these
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girls they don't quite understand this
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sort of protective possessive feeling
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but you're supposed to grow out of it
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and the movie the movie did not then we
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didn't give a perspective on that didn't
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give an adult perspective on it just let
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us soak in the boy's perspective on it
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definitely seemed like we were supposed
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to find that as profound and and make us
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come draw closer to to the main
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character instead of farther away so
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story to is called cosmonaut but there
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will be no space robots I assure you in
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story to cosmic you don't know was on
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the rocket earlier we see it we see a
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shot of birds in the sky we get more
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birds in the sky here this is a
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recurring motif in this which I which I
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like and also these spectacular the sky
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at night is full of spectacular space
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things that you can actually see in the
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sky at night and that's another
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stylistic thing about this movie that i
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thought was nice and also harken back to
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the short that we watched tono is older
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he has a there's a girl who is crushing
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on him named sumida she did they they
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are on a southern island in japan so
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this is what how so his uh so-so ackari
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moved to the north to where it's very
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wintry and then Tony moves to the south
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to us a southern island in Japan where
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it's a more tropical weather and there's
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a space launch facility so we see a
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rocket or spaceship basically towed
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across the train tracks very
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specifically says it's being towed at
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five kilometers an hour
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not to be confused with five centimeters
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per second but i noticed that did
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another rate of speed with a 5 sumita is
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interesting
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she's totally crushing on him they uh
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they ride their scooters around she is a
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surfer because this is a this is a
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tropical ocean community so there's some
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stuff where she's surfing which is cool
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he meanwhile she's surfing what is tono
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doing he's writing messages on his phone
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to nobody and then deleting them that's
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what he does relaxation shooting arrows
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to that was interesting too because you
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know at the beginning I completely
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thought that he was still emailing acai
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and that they still had this thing going
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on and you know
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akari is the reason that that I had to
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feel bad for poor will accommodate
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samhita but no nope he's not he's not
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hanging with her anymore even in
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cyberspace he's just write messages to
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himself
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yeah deleting she's so central to the
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story even though our are supposed two
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main characters for stories still hear
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the story is all about the girl and how
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she's not just dealing with her feelings
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for him although that is though just
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like she's growing up he's trying to
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figure out they have all a subplot with
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the career counseling and her sister and
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I don't know her sister supposed to be a
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cautionary tale of like what could
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happen if you don't get your life
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together and her just deciding what kind
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of person she's gonna be I really like
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with her all the scenes of her dealing
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with surfing she doesn't like
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let's fill out her to her job form of
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like where she wants to go or what she
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wants to be she won't take it which is
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funny just like the last student I
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thought that she talked to her guidance
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counselor about it but she does survive
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really like I really liked her I thought
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that she was a really interesting
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character and and as at erica's point I
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was not in a position to really liked oh
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no at this point so I really did like
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her and I identified with her kind of
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hopelessly crushing on him yeah that's
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why I actually i loved this second story
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probably as much as that as the first
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part because it's just hit I think maybe
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it hit home for me even more than the
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first one because as a youngster I had
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so many deep passionate unrequited
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crushes and i think i think i feel like
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i had way more experience with
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unrequited love than I did with any
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actual like popular relationships hell
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oh yeah so this really works for me and
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I felt like it it ended so accurately
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because you know she's crushing on him
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for this whole time and eventually she
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know as she sort of it comes to the end
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of this phase in her life and grows up a
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little bit and learns to surf she
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realizes that he has he's never even
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really looked at her and and you know it
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she just needs to to kind of give up on
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it and i remember that i remember this
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just there's a moment where you come to
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the realization that you don't need to
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talk to that boy anymore you you don't
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need to have a friend talk to him for
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you you don't need to pass him a note or
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have you know somebody else tell you
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that that he's not he's not into you
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there's there's this painful and maybe
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somehow exquisite moment when you
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realize that he's just never going to
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love you and he'll never even really
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look at you and and that doesn't mean
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that you stopped loving him and crushing
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on him but it means you stop trying and
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then you grieve because there's nothing
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else to do and that shot of her just
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curled up on her mattress was
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transferred and the grouper have been
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there sister and I think the nicest part
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of this also is even even though we're
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not that into tono from the end of the
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last one that he's nice sorry I'm family
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night he is your like and he's he's not
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like he's not toying with her
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he's not he's not mean to her and that's
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why i love me such a bad boy sees mean
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like he's not obsessed with other girls
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he's just in his own and his home
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slightly particular not particularly
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healthy world again sending texts
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themselves or email
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to himself but he's always nice and he
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and you get the feeling that he realizes
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that she's eventually he catches her
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like waiting up for him after like
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archery practice or whatever he knows
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she's doing it but his like it's he's
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not he's not going home and thinking
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about her or the fact that he was there
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or anything like that he's not going to
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make the move hehe like when he sees her
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crying he says you know what's wrong and
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she says no no but he's not gonna he's
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not gonna take it any further right he's
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not going to say oh I know what this is
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about it's just he's never gonna do that
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I i speaking of the the way that this is
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a this crush is portrayed actually i
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think that i really like they're a
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couple of scenes in here one where
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they're riding on their scooters and she
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gets to her house and and parks her
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scooter and then he drives off
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she's got that she got a dog she's got
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like a little puppy which is adorable
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too and uh but what I really like is
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that then he rides off because he's
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further down the road so he rides off
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and she stands there waving at him long
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after he is not like looking at her or
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anything but she keeps waving and I
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thought that was adorable
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because that is like she's really into
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him and he's just zooming off but she's
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like no I'm gonna wait if I was a dog my
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tail be wagging and then two minutes
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later she's waving them with mixer as
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you're with her you're wagging tail
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yeah then there's the scene where her
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scooter breaks and he says now we'll
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walk and they walk and then he leaves
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her he leaves are there and the dog
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comes out and he just walks down the
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road again and again she's waving
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goodbye goodbye as he as he walks down
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the road because he's that's that that's
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their relationship right there
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you mention the fact that he's he's
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always unfeelingly nice to her in which
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is true but in a way it almost makes it
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a little bit worse but she says it's why
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didn't exactly it's not sure
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please please stop it would be easier if
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you were like mean to me or you or I saw
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that you are an unkind person you know
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you're on
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it's a lot easier when your crush is
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revealed to be a jerk to other people
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and I don't know what I'm not crushing
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on you anymore but it but if your crush
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is like quiet and seems a little sad and
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is unfailingly nice to you that does not
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help you deal with your crush it or if
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you even just stopped like you know
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riding home with her just yeah exactly
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now I depart the parts that I really
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that really resonated with me is uh so
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she's they do all these things together
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she waits for him after school they go
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home school together her scooter breaks
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down he tries to fix it they ride home
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in the rain she sees the scooter stopped
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on the side of the road he's on top of
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the hill and so she goes up on the hill
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to sit down with the kind of things that
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you know she's obviously trying to be
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where he isn't do things that he does
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during this time she's you know crushing
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on him and I'm thinking about him and
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upset but all those scenes i am with the
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the backgrounds in the nature and
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everything in retrospect and again this
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about it seems like a memory even though
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you'll remember doing those things you
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know I was there because he was there I
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I you know we had this experience
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together in the reason reason i was
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saying there is because i wanted to walk
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home with him or whatever going on all
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around you is this this natural beauty
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that sort of magnified by your you know
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your your emotions and young hormones
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and everything that when you look back
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on it it's not so important that the
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whole time you were there you're
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crushing this person it's like it's like
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you were soaking in this this beautiful
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scenery in the wind and the grass and as
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I don't know like for me I remember a
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lot of the settings when these over
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these emotions borrowers them the
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emotions and the sort of the ended the
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details of the people in the situation's
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fade but i can put myself right back in
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that spot sitting there like when
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something dramatic was happening in your
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world in your mind and you don't know
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what was happening in the other person's
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mind maybe nothing was happening there
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but for you it was really important that
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you were sitting on this Hill as the Sun
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went down you know watching the birds
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fly through the sky while you were
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thinking this thing and you're just
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sitting there quietly nothing was
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actually happening and i think this
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movie does a really good job of revoking
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evoking that the fact that everything is
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so heightened when you're in the
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situation when all you're actually doing
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is walking from place to place
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not even talking or sitting on a hill or
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just you know eventually later the big
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climax when something big is about to
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happen and a rocket takes off in the
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background which is inappropriate thing
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that they would be entirely like the
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rocket might as well as taking off in
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the background for like you spend like
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the entire year two years or three years
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walking home with this person and things
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are gonna finally come to a head and
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that's the sort of externality of
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of what's going on inside I just this
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section I think this is my that the
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train sequence is something special i
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think but this section is the most sort
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of this middle section is the most
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evocative for me of sort of what it's
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like to be in that's too especially
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since it comes to women like that I a
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fairly satisfying and where it ends in a
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realistic way and and it's heartbreaking
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yeah in my headcanon i like to think
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that that he has moments you know when
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we're not seeing him here he has moments
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where you know kids he's always in his
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head so much that he thinks about her
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wishes that he could could feel the same
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way about her that he felt about a Kauri
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and he just can't quite get to that same
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level of you know those those heights of
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emotion and therefore doesn't even
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really give it a chance when she's
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around because he feels like that's what
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he's shooting for is you know that that
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that same feeling which he just doesn't
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have so he's just kind of lost in his
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own thoughts when when she's around
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because she just just doesn't quite
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quite do it form this resonates for me
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because I was that girl laying I the
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crushes that like I didn't have a
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boyfriend in high school I didn't have
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like like all of the stuff that seems to
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be very similar to her
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I mean that was that was really me and
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even like the the in her internal
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monologue about like if I was a puppy
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and and then she's like why are you so
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weird i'm so weird why am i weird and
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that's still like me now you know like
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why do I have to be so weird and so I
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mean even even now alene therapist if
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it's a lot a lot
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I like they're more characters in this
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section like she's got a family she's
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got a big sister she's got a mom she's
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right all we don't really see his
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feelings for anything like her world is
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more fleshed out here and the green
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hawks and they all they all know who her
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crushes right in the discuss things and
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it's just you know like it you get the
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more feeling for like a school year or
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two is taking place in like the day
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there's a little society in the school
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and they have their own circles and you
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still get definitely a feeling that that
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what's-his-name tano i can remember
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asking me that are too cocky
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yeah his his head he's he's not dealing
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well with this transition to adulthood
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as well see in the final section that he
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did you know he he goes off in a pretty
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bad direction here he can't get over a
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Kauri and he's not he's not moving on
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with his life in a particularly healthy
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way where she we feel like it's going
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through she seems like it's a little bit
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younger and she's going through all kind
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of the same things you go through that
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age but that you know as as shown
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through her i think the surfing is sort
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of like you know showing her her
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development in the species through sort
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of she had caught waves before and she
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was sort of thrown off kilter by what
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were we
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imagine to be her first crush and like
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puberty and all that and she can't
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select the broomstick all over again she
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can help out around the surfboard by the
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end of it from key that is by the end of
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it she gets up on the surfboard again
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it's like she's coming out of it like
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she just doesn't quite know what she's
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going to do with her life but she feels
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encouraged by the fact that she's
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getting a handle on this is these were
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some very strong feelings just very
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difficult situations but she's growing
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feel like she's gonna be okay right
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that's what that's what we're left with
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that coming out of the segments that she
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was crushed but that being crushes
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something we all have to go through at
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least once and it seems like this is
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this is going to be the end of the world
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but really we feel like she's got a good
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head on her shoulders a good support
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system and she will she will do well
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even if nobody else does
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yeah when she realizes that he's not
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that that he's not for her what she says
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is he's always looking past me at
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something far beyond like oh that oh no
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he's always thinking about something
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he's a disconnected from the world a
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little bit we move ahead into story
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number 35 centimeters per second
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tono is now an adult ackari sort of well
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I mean that he's thrown out he's figure
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museum are either he's adults aged shts
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into a group of what appears to be an
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adult shape
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akari his friend from cherry blossom is
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getting married as we learned in
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dialogue where she's talking about that
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she's getting married and she's saying
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about her parents and i'll see you at
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the wedding and all this stuff and
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including uh and then there's a lot of
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voice over here including a an
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interesting line which was I doubt our
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hearts got closer by a centimeter that i
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wrote down like go more themes are
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happening but but oh no is in bad shape
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he says I've wanted to move on but you
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do it grasp something out of my reach my
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heart was withering he says at one point
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at which point i wrote down he has been
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crushed by the man he goes into work is
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a computer it's something good job is
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like writing software on a big fancy Mac
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he's got a cinema display here really
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get out on him but he's but he is hard
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as whether John he will and he goes you
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know how we could be unhappy because
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when he goes to the the magazine shop to
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the newsstand the magazine it's in front
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of him is for windows vasta which was a
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very intense
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very similar edition of Windows Windows
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vasta it was disliked by most Windows
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users it we see him he lives in
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apartment by himself and it's like one
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of those sad small dark Japanese
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apartments and he's got he's got all his
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possessions shoved into this one tiny
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room it's got a chick crashing there
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yeah totally batching it we can we see
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him mostly standing silently not looking
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at other people with his head down we
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don't see him talking and hanging out
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with coworkers you see him having to get
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dressed up with the tie that's the heart
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huh mr. white I don't know your life is
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going terribly wrong he's smoking on his
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balcony by himself yeah it's hard with
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heard what happened and i think i think
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this is a like this this happens this is
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a depiction we've seen a lot of ways
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where you know you you leave your high
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school or college behind where you have
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a built-in social group if you haven't
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sort of paired up or come with a stable
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group of friends or go off our from
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everybody else and get a job just the
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grind of like got to get an apartment
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got to get my food got to clean my
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clothes got to go to my job got to come
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home if you don't make an effort to meet
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and find and see other people you will
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find yourself and if you're a certain
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kind of person you will find yourself
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living alone going to work coming home
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and just slowly sinking into yourself
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and I think they don't make clear he
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said he has had this is that after the
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determination of a three-year
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relationship with another girl who is
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not a car and who is not the surfer girl
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right who we barely see because they're
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no longer in a relationship she's the
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one who drops a little email bomb on him
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about the you know we said we send all
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these e-mails back and forth doesn't
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feel like we got any closer because you
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know he's obviously still completely
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closed off and that wasn't going to work
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out but even that which was probably the
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one person he took talk to and if I
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didn't even that is over so he's he's
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going downhill
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yeah yeah it's a bad bad scene he we get
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the i'm dreaming of being 13 and a
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filled with snow someday we watch the
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cherry blossoms again and we discovered
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there's sort of these two voiceovers
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that are happening at this point in
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their lives both of the characters are
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sort of thinking back to those moments
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from when they were young and together
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and in that field of snow and on that
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trip and back at school and all of those
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things that that is going on here and at
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the very beginning of this we get a
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glimpse of of
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it turns out is the two of them kind of
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crossing paths with one one another as
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they're crossing over the train tracks
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it's the same train tracks that we saw
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at the very beginning with the with the
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the cherry blossoms following that will
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come back they'll be replayed again at
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the very end in the last shot of the
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film however as we get this and this is
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a short fairly short segment as we get
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this we get the sense of sort of like
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it's not necessarily regret
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yeah maybe maybe it's tension with that
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but it's also just like this
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reminiscence of nostalgia for this this
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time in their lives that has passed and
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she's gonna move on with her life and
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get married and he's having difficulty
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in his life but you know what would be
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good right about now a song montage
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no I disagree disagree full-hearted
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fortunately we get one that is not it is
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a bombastic a song and a montage of
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things that we've already seen in this
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movie that's only 60 minutes long
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same as what i think they cut too fast
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here for you to see what's another
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forward if you were to look at
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individually the scenes they do add
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scenes that add information to the story
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but it's mostly cut to the beat of the
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music so it goes by too fast for sale by
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voices evidence are also ends on a song
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go that side yeah there it does not work
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well here it seems jarring and out of
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completely out of context of the film it
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it has the same problem both places
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ended the the cutting and the action
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happens so fast to keep pace with the
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song that on first viewing it's very
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difficult even tell what the heck is
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going on in this one obviously there's
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not much going on I don't mind the song
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here I like the fact that it that is I
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mean that I feel like the entire movie
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this part was slow and they built this
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but I feel like the ramp onto the song
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was too abrupt home and especially if
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you can't understand the lyrics which we
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can't you have to read song subtitle
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lyrics while the fashion flash million
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scenes in front of you it was a
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difficult way to to bring this to a head
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but again I felt like they were there on
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the third story they were near the end
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they had to get to the conclusion that
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they wanted to get to and
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I'm a sucker for music videos i like
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when they do musical montage is in
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almost anything even if i can't
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understand what the song is so even
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though I think we'd better invoices just
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start mind at that much in this I just
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feel like it's it it doesn't it doesn't
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it doesn't flow smoothly from the movie
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into the song it feels like there was
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the movie and then there comes a point
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and this thing was pasted into the end
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of a missense again in the middle
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yeah see I didn't have any problem with
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that but i think because I also like the
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musical montage thing in general and see
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that it's enough an anime that I don't
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mind it so I didn't feel like that was
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during at all I just hated this song
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with a fiery passion
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the way machine more than email naive me
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nobody died he said
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so if it had been a different song a
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better song i think i would have
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forgiven a lot and probably would have
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ended quite enjoyed it because I i do
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agree that it was a little bit on the
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fast side but i was i was still
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following it okay and you know I was
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slightly confused about what happened
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but was able to kind of piece it
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together and figure it out i just could
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not stand the the sound of the guys
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voice yeah and it wasn't it was not like
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a smooth melodic sweeping song i think
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it was supposed to be emotional and it
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was just it just did not work on any
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level but then when it ended the actual
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music that was over the closing credits
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was beautiful and I was like okay you
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want me over again
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yeah it really was it reminded me of a
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bud light commercial ave and it's a
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shame because this movie is so beautiful
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however i did like the last two shots of
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the montage where it settles down a
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little bit before it hits the credits
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and pretty song over the credits which
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is we see the two birds again
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mhm huh and if we see that seemed again
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at the railroad track that we saw that
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is a replay of the first scene and also
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the first thing of this where they kind
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of brush against each other and look
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back from across the train tracks and
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just as about their as they're about to
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turn and lock eyes the train goes by and
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it goes by free very long time yeah
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that's one of my favorite bits because i
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feel like if the music by that point has
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won me over because the music is still
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kind of going to this instrumental that
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point and the trains are gone by and and
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the trains are going and they're going
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and they're growing and then when you
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think the trains gonna actually the
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train the opposite direction starts
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coming and it's going it's going it's
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going it's like and it's entirely like i
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can't i can't make the trains you know I
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mean that some trains to take a long
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time to buy so i wasn't i was totally
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bought in by that point of the song
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starts abruptly and and cuts very fast
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yeah and also by the way the melody of
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this song is we've throughout the entire
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movie like it's sort of you know a motif
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going through music like it's it's like
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I think they're sturdy bones they're the
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guys voice is very jarring I i will give
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you that but anyway I think I like the
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song better than you guys did and butter
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you did at that butt and like I said by
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the time those trains start flying by
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and things are fading down
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I'm on board again yeah and it's I i
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think it's a beautiful bittersweet kind
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of ending because of course the trains
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finally do part and he's still looking
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and she is gone and he and the the the
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arms come up on the on the guards and
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you said he's looking he's facing toward
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where she was and you see him turn
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around to go back the other direction
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and walk away and that's the end and if
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it's a very nice moment sad but he's got
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a little smile on his face as he turns
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like that he is like but I mean so this
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bending it also ambiguous but i think
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what they're leading you towards is that
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he's kind of figured out the same thing
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that the surfer figured out so go figure
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it out and that like all right I see how
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this is you know because he finally had
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his like moment of contact or whether he
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imagined or not whether it was actually
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her not or whatever that he even took
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them however many years in this but this
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is you know sometimes takes people a
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long time to get over this
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he's come around and realized he doesn't
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know the shoes on his know she's engaged
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to be married I like they avoided all
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that drama she's going to be married and
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who should like nope nope nope she's not
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you're never going to speak to her again
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you're probably never gonna see her
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again whether you saw her on those train
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tracks or not it doesn't matter and so
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that I feel like he's saying to himself
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was she even there
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does it even matter and so he's got the
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little tiny smile and the whole showing
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his footsteps turning away and walking
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on is that he's finally moving on with
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his life
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you get the the train going in between
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them is almost like just the physical
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severing of that tie between the two of
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them and i think that's that's when he
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gets it and you know it's symbolic and
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hit him for a guy who's been in his head
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so deeply for all these years he really
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needs something that's that kind of hit
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you over the head some bond over the
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wires in one direction and also run them
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over in the other direction or they cut
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yet keep going keep going on
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let Iran and the parallel story of the
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parallel reminiscing of them both
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remembering that same time I thought
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that was nice because she's remembering
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it the way you remember you find an old
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letter from like middle school and you
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look at like we're not so many of these
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movies are some of these things you
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would find it was like but her husband
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is terrible right but she's not really
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happy right now
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her husband is probably very nice and
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our soon-to-be husband and she's very
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happy and right is nothing wrong in her
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life like it's not it's not she's not
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gonna go back to be like and so she's
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been missing finally and look at this
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thing and management and he's
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reminiscing not bit early but still like
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longingly and they're both telling the
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same story but it's two very different
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views in the same thing and it takes our
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train tracks running over the giant
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emotional and vocal cord that's
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connecting him to his past at the end of
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the movie to disconnect them and again
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like voices in Star I think this movie
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whether it's realistic or not that are
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emotionally healthy to hold on to
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something that long
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it's getting in touch with the idea that
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when you have the when when you're in
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the midst of those relationships they
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get a hundred percent seems like when
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I'm 40 I was still be crying about this
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right like it doesn't matter how old I
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get I will never forget you I will love
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you forever this is this is it because
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that's how it feels and so these stories
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can't if they realistically play that
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becomes pathetic for adults to be like
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that but it stretch the stretch reality
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a little bit different look kids
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understand you and you you've been in
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this situation it seems like it's never
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going to end
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but it really will but I know when
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you're in it feels like it wants all the
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characters are like you know like at the
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end of all the stories like I will never
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forget this is the most important thing
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in my life nothing will ever change but
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it gets better and then you have the
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beautiful beautiful song over the
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closing credits which actually reminded
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me very much of a song called
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recessional by Vienna tank which then I
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had listened to it for a while so listen
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to it and realized that the lyrics of
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that song are actually kind of eerily
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similar to the themes of these movies
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and we down to like mentioning
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fluorescent light bulbs in like a train
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station or an airport or something and
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you know specific moments with somebody
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being so pure just like whoa that's kind
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of creepy
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so John what was really interesting to
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me about this one is that again so much
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other than the miyazaki so much of the
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anime that I've seen has been in you
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know science fiction kind of terms
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including voices of a distant star and
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then we get 25 centimeters per second
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and it's this other kind and I was
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really happy that they were no aliens
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and only one spaceship and only seen in
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the distance and on train tracks and I
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and I thought it was beautiful and like
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I said I i thought the detail work while
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very different from some of the
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beautiful stuff that I see and say
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miyazaki movies was you know it also had
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things in common with that in in in
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taking the time to show these objects
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and lingering on them and so yeah I
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thought this I thought five centimeters
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per second was was kind of great real i
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really thought it was
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yeah I did too one of the reasons I left
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out a place promised in our early days
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which is the third attempt to tell to
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touch on the same themes let's say not
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not make the same movie is that I feel
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like that is the most conventional
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recommend watching it but I feel like
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you've got the best like this you got
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the raw first weird little voices of a
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distant star and you have this which is
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that the later one which i think is more
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mature and sophisticated retelling of
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the same thing and place promise has
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much more of the trappings of a
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traditional movie period like there's
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actual sort of this sort of actually a
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plot there's a unexplained weird anime
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thing that goes on with aliens or maybe
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not aliens or whatever that's not
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important and not explain but there are
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you know flying craft and their
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relationships and there's like dialogue
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feelings much more so like it you could
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meet probably make that into a hollywood
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movie in some reasonable way that
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touches on all sorts of the same feat
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themes and I feel like that other stuff
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and and place for most early days gets
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in the way like it is not it's not like
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sort of like voices of just are two
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things so much together in a pleasing
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way this is crazy mashup and it's not
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five centimeters per second
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where they cut out everything except for
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the heart whether they're trying to tell
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that is sort of like an uncomfortable
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mix but if you watch all three of those
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things i think at that point you start
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to get a feel for makoto shinkai and I
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think he is a hopeless romantic because
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you're taking make to make three movies
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like that and I
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and it was kind of I you know coming at
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the same thing from different angles and
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having a sort of different resolutions
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at the end but just you know the what
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attracts me to this and acetone economy
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is occupied matter is like not so much
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the stories that tell police they can be
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about whatever you want it to be about
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but the way they tell them and it it it
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it speaks the truth to me that you don't
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see in most conventional movies because
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again i think animation can get away
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with really weird stuff like when you
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make a live-action movie that has
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lingering shots of like a telephone wire
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bisecting the moon people think oh
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that's what i was already movies as you
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know whatever but with these movies
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somehow somehow gets a pass and and and
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I and I do like the space stuff you said
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there's only one rocket ship this thing
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I think it's important that to have that
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I think it's important to have heavy
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space machinery moving through these
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people's lives and and firing off at
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pivotal moments yeah and constant
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looking up at the stars all of which are
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green and purple like you're looking
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through like Hubble telescope on acid
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and opening sequences have giant looming
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planets that somehow that not just
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hyper-real that's like that's exactly
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what it's like to be this age there is a
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giant living plan and purple stars and a
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rocket ship the fires off behind you
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not really but there might as well be
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verdicts on this now that you've seen it
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I too enthusiastic thumbs up as long as
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I completely forget about that last song
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which is quite a blemish but it will
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grow on you'll see like a fungus I had
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managed to I had managed to forget about
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it until we started talking about it at
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all my memories where we're very happy
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so I'm sure 10 minutes after we stopped
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recording i'm going to forget it again
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and I'm going to just continue to just
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low five centimeters per second and i
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also i quite liked voices of a distant
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distant star but not not to the same
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degree pretty much the same especially I
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am anxious to watch five minutes the may
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just watch 5 centimeters a second again
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just to watch it because it's just
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stunning the the artwork is just
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absolutely beautiful and i found myself
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i'm having to go back in like positive
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and go back and read the subtitles one
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because they pass kind of quickly but
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secondly i was just watching things and
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not paying attention to what was being
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said because it was just it was it was
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gorgeous
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so I really enjoyed both alright John
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how do we do we pass pretty well I think
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like that and I don't know if I would
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never think about things we watching
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like we watching too many things that
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are the same because it's like are we
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doing the equivalent of playing game
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after game is exactly like journey
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because it's kind of like the type of
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things that i like but I feel like we're
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getting a reasonable spread here even if
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we're mostly avoiding like the actual
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right up the middle traditional like
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when you know now watching like full
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metal panic or something right which is
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like conventional and all the the
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conventional way so i'm not totally
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saying that's out of the question the
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future but this is the kind of movies
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that I like these are the kind of
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directors that I like all these movies
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I've seen so many times and it and
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likely was saying i do the opposite
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where I find that I have to read the
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subtitles and the first few yards and
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then in the the subsequent many many
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viewings when I know everything everyone
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is going to say i spent all time while
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looking at the frames and watching the
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movie like trying to watch the movie as
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if I understand what they're saying but
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only because I've member is offline to
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that point and that's these are some of
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the ways that i really i really just
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want to look at the whole screen over
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and over again which is why I get
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frustrated when the scenes because flash
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by so quickly but uh these are the
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assignments on my favorite farinata
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miyazaki non-toxic own animated with
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lots of qualifiers on that but this is
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this is the kind of movie I like and
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maybe if you are lucky or unlucky you
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will find out some of the even weirder
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kinds of animated movies like but that's
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for another time
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alright new hashtag teaser that would be
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ma one of four perhaps which you know
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will continue to go down this path as
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long as Professor cute will have us as
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students I think all right well that's
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it classes adjourned I'd like to thank
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my fellow students only in Sims thanks
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for being here thanks for having me and
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Erica and sign
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thank you very much thank you i'm gonna
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i'm going to have a dairy coffee
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ah it's very nice very nice i'm going to
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eat a rice puff ball
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Thank You professor John circus for
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picking these films and talking to us
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about the speed of this audio through
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skype channel
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five megabits per second is that a
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cherry blossom IC falling
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hmm thanks for listening to this edition
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of the uncomfortable
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everybody will see you next week
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