The Incomparable

306: Only One Spaceship


00:00:00   the incomparable number 306 2 2016 [TS]

00:00:12   welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:14   uncomfortable i am your host Jason stell [TS]

00:00:16   I'm convening another edition I'm i [TS]

00:00:18   merely the teaching assistant to [TS]

00:00:20   professor John siracusa this is anime [TS]

00:00:24   103 the third in our series of episodes [TS]

00:00:27   in which John siracusa assigns us anime [TS]

00:00:29   to watch and comment on [TS]

00:00:32   hi John I Jason did you do the homework [TS]

00:00:35   this week I did all the homework all [TS]

00:00:37   that amazing you assigned less of it and [TS]

00:00:40   therefore i did was just keep lowering [TS]

00:00:42   the bar until you succeed I crossover [TS]

00:00:45   that low bar that's what I did [TS]

00:00:47   joining me as in addition to being a [TS]

00:00:49   teaching assistant i am also a student [TS]

00:00:50   joining me my fellow students in the [TS]

00:00:52   anime one of three class allene sims [TS]

00:00:55   hello hello [TS]

00:00:56   I did the homework to at the last minute [TS]

00:00:59   m which is pretty pretty on par for how [TS]

00:01:02   I do things that's that's better as long [TS]

00:01:04   as you have done before the class that's [TS]

00:01:06   that's good enough and Erica and sign [TS]

00:01:08   also i assumed it all the homework i did [TS]

00:01:10   i did last night go see what makeup and [TS]

00:01:13   once again I'm the anime teacher's pet [TS]

00:01:15   yeah yeah alright John explain to us [TS]

00:01:18   what did we watch and why did you choose [TS]

00:01:21   what kind of back to the the original [TS]

00:01:23   format which was multiple things by the [TS]

00:01:26   same director or artists are you know a [TS]

00:01:28   single person vision it was toned down [TS]

00:01:31   this time telling me to two things were [TS]

00:01:33   going to watch we watched too i guess [TS]

00:01:35   you would call the movies both of them [TS]

00:01:36   are very short [TS]

00:01:37   more like short films by makoto shinkai [TS]

00:01:40   and I like to think to myself and have [TS]

00:01:44   only seen a little bit of his work that [TS]

00:01:46   he has made the same movie three times [TS]

00:01:48   we only watched two of them now I pick [TS]

00:01:53   some book ends here the one in the [TS]

00:01:54   middle we kind of skipped over i think [TS]

00:01:55   it would've been fun to include up i [TS]

00:01:57   think two is more than enough to get the [TS]

00:01:59   flavor and the thing is I liked this [TS]

00:02:01   movie all three times I saw it and I [TS]

00:02:04   think is interesting things to say about [TS]

00:02:07   each one it's not really the same I just [TS]

00:02:08   you know you did this like like the [TS]

00:02:11   first episode of this we did which I [TS]

00:02:13   think was a photo she come you can see [TS]

00:02:15   the through line you can see the artist [TS]

00:02:18   you can see a single person's vision [TS]

00:02:20   in our idea our sensibilities coming [TS]

00:02:23   through and all these movies and I think [TS]

00:02:24   that's the thing that's fun [TS]

00:02:25   yeah so we watched voices of a distant [TS]

00:02:27   star which is short [TS]

00:02:29   it's what 20 minutes-ish and five [TS]

00:02:32   centimeters per second which is a little [TS]

00:02:34   over an hour long or it's basically an [TS]

00:02:36   hour-long with a little over with [TS]

00:02:38   credits but it's basically an hour long [TS]

00:02:40   and so but what's interesting about five [TS]

00:02:43   centimeters per second is it itself is [TS]

00:02:44   split into three stories so it really is [TS]

00:02:47   sort of like we watched for short [TS]

00:02:50   stories that are kind of though I mean [TS]

00:02:54   the man want the 15 centimeters per [TS]

00:02:56   second are interlinked they are you know [TS]

00:03:00   we follow a character through but [TS]

00:03:01   they're all all connected and then you [TS]

00:03:04   know John you nailed it i was actually [TS]

00:03:06   really laughing when i got to the the [TS]

00:03:08   when I opened five centimeters per [TS]

00:03:10   second and flex and I saw the plot [TS]

00:03:11   synopsis i just watched voices of a [TS]

00:03:13   distant star and I just laughed because [TS]

00:03:15   I was like oh okay so it's the same [TS]

00:03:17   movie except with you were aliens got it [TS]

00:03:20   their voices are just star which is when [TS]

00:03:22   we should start with is that I i became [TS]

00:03:26   to know it mostly because of its origins [TS]

00:03:28   as this thing that one person [TS]

00:03:30   essentially made with very little help [TS]

00:03:33   usually animated movies no matter how [TS]

00:03:35   strong the artistic vision behind it [TS]

00:03:37   takes a team of people because it's [TS]

00:03:38   really hard to get a draw lots of [TS]

00:03:40   pictures and then there's voice acting [TS]

00:03:42   and there's music and then there's but [TS]

00:03:44   you know the sequence of putting it all [TS]

00:03:45   together and this was a thing made or so [TS]

00:03:50   the legend goes by like one person just [TS]

00:03:51   did everything like got got his [TS]

00:03:53   girlfriend to do the voices he did the [TS]

00:03:55   other voice got a friend of his to do [TS]

00:03:57   the music he drew all the animation he [TS]

00:03:59   did all the very primitive early 2000 [TS]

00:04:01   cgi on his power mac g4 and just use the [TS]

00:04:05   bunch of software programs that he had [TS]

00:04:07   to essentially make a miniature movie [TS]

00:04:09   all by his lonesome and so that's that's [TS]

00:04:12   how I came to be attractive like wow [TS]

00:04:14   someone's using a mac to make this anime [TS]

00:04:16   thing about at this point I I like a dot [TS]

00:04:19   on the merits and some of the sort of [TS]

00:04:20   handmade home rolled a single person [TS]

00:04:23   made this qualities show through in the [TS]

00:04:26   movie but i still think it's charming [TS]

00:04:27   yeah so let's start with voices of a [TS]

00:04:29   distant star since that is the earlier [TS]

00:04:31   of these two [TS]

00:04:33   and I it is more traditionally anime i [TS]

00:04:38   would say in the sense that most of em [TS]

00:04:41   again i know i have a skewed view as an [TS]

00:04:42   American of this is a genre but to me so [TS]

00:04:45   much anime and and perhaps so much more [TS]

00:04:48   in Japanese culture that American [TS]

00:04:49   culture there is a sci-fi influence and [TS]

00:04:54   but not not not all as we've seen with [TS]

00:04:57   with other anime that we've seen and as [TS]

00:05:00   well see with five centimeters per [TS]

00:05:01   second actually but here we have it's [TS]

00:05:04   your your your classic boy meets girl [TS]

00:05:06   girl enters a robotic spaceship killing [TS]

00:05:12   machine and goes to various far-off many [TS]

00:05:16   light-years away locations and fights [TS]

00:05:19   aliens happens every day in Japan [TS]

00:05:21   typical you know it is tails all this [TS]

00:05:24   time [TS]

00:05:25   yeah uh yeah hey yeah its beauty and the [TS]

00:05:28   tar seein ya i was i was so in for this [TS]

00:05:33   for a moment what I'd heard voices of a [TS]

00:05:35   distant star but I had never watched it [TS]

00:05:37   before so it was nice to have an [TS]

00:05:38   opportunity to do that and just from the [TS]

00:05:40   very beginning where you get the very [TS]

00:05:43   opening sequence where she is you know [TS]

00:05:47   she thinks she's in the classroom and [TS]

00:05:49   then suddenly realizes that she's alone [TS]

00:05:50   she's talking about how the world is [TS]

00:05:52   places that her cell phone can can reach [TS]

00:05:54   to send a message to and then realizes [TS]

00:05:56   she's not in this world anymore and I'm [TS]

00:05:58   like whoa what's going on as soon as I [TS]

00:06:00   sort of figured out kind of where where [TS]

00:06:02   they actually were in what was what was [TS]

00:06:03   happening I mean I i admit i love [TS]

00:06:07   teenybopper drama in anime category [TS]

00:06:10   orange road has one of my favorite anime [TS]

00:06:12   series is that seemed like I don't know [TS]

00:06:14   middle school kids and takes place in [TS]

00:06:17   basically in junior high and I adore max [TS]

00:06:21   stuff like I don't care what people say [TS]

00:06:23   the original three gun movies they're [TS]

00:06:25   not boring i love them so this took kind [TS]

00:06:28   of those to animate rope things that I [TS]

00:06:30   love so much and jam them together into [TS]

00:06:32   like this this stop choc full 25 minutes [TS]

00:06:36   of the tropes that I like added you know [TS]

00:06:38   and then later on top you get this kind [TS]

00:06:40   of classic sci-fi trope of the time [TS]

00:06:42   distances between different people who [TS]

00:06:44   are we're talking and trying to send [TS]

00:06:46   messages [TS]

00:06:46   from light-years apart so it was kind of [TS]

00:06:49   like it was tailor-made for one me [TS]

00:06:51   yeah i mean this so the story is the the [TS]

00:06:55   girl whose name is Ayano borough is the [TS]

00:07:00   boy was just does she have a name me is [TS]

00:07:05   a macaque oh it's becca yeah I'm she boy [TS]

00:07:09   and girl meet but you know she goes off [TS]

00:07:12   and joins the the United Nations [TS]

00:07:14   spaceflight or as it's labeled on the [TS]

00:07:16   side of one of the buildings or maybe [TS]

00:07:18   it's the train its United Nations spacey [TS]

00:07:20   which i think is you'll see an anime [TS]

00:07:23   many times over [TS]

00:07:25   united nations spacey I and so she goes [TS]

00:07:28   and she's in one of these like Max and [TS]

00:07:32   there that we learned the backstory that [TS]

00:07:34   aliens attack Mars and there are the the [TS]

00:07:37   tarsi and ruins where the where the [TS]

00:07:40   aliens attacked in the tarsus crater and [TS]

00:07:43   so she is now out among the stars for [TS]

00:07:48   she's a Pluto she's marshy the Pluto and [TS]

00:07:50   then they're going to go a light-year [TS]

00:07:52   away and then there and then they end up [TS]

00:07:54   eight light-years away at serious and [TS]

00:07:57   she is sending on her little um on her [TS]

00:08:00   little cell phone that's like the old [TS]

00:08:01   style whereas your texting it makes the [TS]

00:08:03   Ted touch tones and stuff and there's [TS]

00:08:05   she said it was just adorable off now [TS]

00:08:08   introduce exc sending texts like what is [TS]

00:08:13   that t nine is she sending texts the [TS]

00:08:15   Japanese equivalent to back to the boy [TS]

00:08:18   who is back there and so like Erica said [TS]

00:08:21   you get the time-dilation thing it's not [TS]

00:08:23   quite the problem [TS]

00:08:24   thirdly it speed of light so it she [TS]

00:08:27   sends these messages and he's not going [TS]

00:08:29   to get them for a year or eight years [TS]

00:08:30   but if they go faster than the speed of [TS]

00:08:33   light it doesn't mean she couldn't get [TS]

00:08:34   back faster than that it's I sometimes [TS]

00:08:36   in this I felt like that maybe the story [TS]

00:08:38   thought that she was kind of [TS]

00:08:40   time-traveling forward but that that [TS]

00:08:42   didn't seem to make sense to me all I [TS]

00:08:44   don't know maybe that's not how this [TS]

00:08:46   works but I got hung about that a little [TS]

00:08:48   they could they could were back but the [TS]

00:08:50   ideas they're not going to do not do [TS]

00:08:51   never intended there other difference to [TS]

00:08:53   the target she's on this mission yeah [TS]

00:08:54   they could work back like in other words [TS]

00:08:55   she could outrun her messages background [TS]

00:08:57   the whole ship could warp lesson today [TS]

00:08:59   I'm [TS]

00:08:59   back today but that's not how it's gonna [TS]

00:09:01   go don't listen to that message i sent [TS]

00:09:02   you [TS]

00:09:03   eight years from now you're gonna get a [TS]

00:09:05   half of a message but ignore it i'm back [TS]

00:09:06   you know it's the story of its like like [TS]

00:09:09   a message from far away like from from [TS]

00:09:11   in the past when it would take longer [TS]

00:09:12   for communication happened that's what's [TS]

00:09:15   happening here so so they're separated [TS]

00:09:17   and now it's like I you know it's been a [TS]

00:09:19   year and you see him a year older and [TS]

00:09:21   then it's been eight years and you see [TS]

00:09:23   him eight more years older and that's [TS]

00:09:25   this is not exactly still 15 or whatever [TS]

00:09:28   it's still don't know but it's this [TS]

00:09:29   long-distance letter-writing kind of a [TS]

00:09:32   kind of longing for one another but it's [TS]

00:09:36   far away and there's nothing they can do [TS]

00:09:37   about it sadness that is is also i [TS]

00:09:41   didn't know that the standard uniform [TS]

00:09:43   for driving a mac in it is a schools are [TS]

00:09:45   14 minutes apart surprisingly versatile [TS]

00:09:48   in Japan yes can use it for many [TS]

00:09:50   occupations thanks United Nations this [TS]

00:09:52   this thing it you know and you know that [TS]

00:09:54   all the all the traditional anime [TS]

00:09:56   stereotypes and trucks that are in this [TS]

00:09:58   you've got you know you've got school [TS]

00:10:00   girls you got the kids in middle school [TS]

00:10:02   you have young people piloting max I [TS]

00:10:06   think this one does lots of shots of [TS]

00:10:08   power lines [TS]

00:10:09   yeah but this one does a pretty good job [TS]

00:10:11   of mixing the two because that theme of [TS]

00:10:14   story of like a bunch of kids in school [TS]

00:10:16   and they're going to have relationships [TS]

00:10:18   and all sorts of problems in dramas [TS]

00:10:19   that's that's common to many cultures [TS]

00:10:21   including Japan and lots of stories [TS]

00:10:23   about that and this one [TS]

00:10:25   intermix is the the tech stories with [TS]

00:10:28   that story as if it's two separate anime [TS]

00:10:32   so it's pretty much entirely devoted to [TS]

00:10:34   the relationship thing and and you know [TS]

00:10:36   people wondering about feelings and [TS]

00:10:39   being distant from each other and all [TS]

00:10:40   that stuff and just slices and dices it [TS]

00:10:42   right in with people in space and stuff [TS]

00:10:44   like the same in the beginning she's [TS]

00:10:46   she's hesitant to tell him that she's [TS]

00:10:48   going to be going because she knows it's [TS]

00:10:50   going to be sad and she's kind of also [TS]

00:10:53   leaving him behind it she is the smarter [TS]

00:10:57   and more skilled of the two she's she's [TS]

00:11:00   able to go on this mission he's not so [TS]

00:11:03   that the important thing you should have [TS]

00:11:05   to tell her her you know friend / [TS]

00:11:07   boyfriend is that she has to go fly [TS]

00:11:09   giant robots but it could just as well [TS]

00:11:11   been [TS]

00:11:11   say moving to a different town as well [TS]

00:11:13   see in the next movie and that same [TS]

00:11:16   thing when she's in this whole movie [TS]

00:11:18   just fighting aliens [TS]

00:11:19   she's just training shooting down drones [TS]

00:11:22   protecting her fleet all that is going [TS]

00:11:24   on and yet the narration and the scenery [TS]

00:11:27   and everything about it is all about [TS]

00:11:29   worrying about this boy back home and [TS]

00:11:33   the distance between them and like as an [TS]

00:11:34   aside [TS]

00:11:35   she's shooting aliens yeah which I love [TS]

00:11:38   because it it really gets at the sort of [TS]

00:11:41   the feeling that it pervades all the all [TS]

00:11:45   of his stuff really like what is it like [TS]

00:11:47   to be a kid of this age encountering [TS]

00:11:49   these feelings so the first time how [TS]

00:11:50   all-consuming is that it's so [TS]

00:11:52   all-consuming that it trumps everything [TS]

00:11:56   else like being in a giant robot [TS]

00:11:58   shooting aliens and fighting for the [TS]

00:11:59   survival of humans across light-years [TS]

00:12:01   and everything like that that is that is [TS]

00:12:04   almost a sideshow to the the emotional [TS]

00:12:06   turmoil that is that the heart of the [TS]

00:12:08   story and i love i love the [TS]

00:12:10   juxtaposition those things and clearly [TS]

00:12:11   this director does too he he loves many [TS]

00:12:13   things the table come back to many times [TS]

00:12:15   but the putting everyday life against [TS]

00:12:19   the massiveness of Space and Technology [TS]

00:12:21   and aliens is is always a fun [TS]

00:12:24   juxtaposition I find an anime when the [TS]

00:12:27   her spaceship is about to go into space [TS]

00:12:29   warp and get jump light-year away sheet [TS]

00:12:33   we get the shot of her inside her mac [TS]

00:12:35   and she's really upset because like her [TS]

00:12:37   phone is floating in zero g and she's [TS]

00:12:39   like oh but if I don't send my text [TS]

00:12:41   messages before we jump there then [TS]

00:12:43   they're not going to go for a year and [TS]

00:12:45   that's like that's the end she like is [TS]

00:12:47   meanwhile yeah occasionally blasting [TS]

00:12:49   enemies and getting over to the ship so [TS]

00:12:52   that she doesn't get left behind but [TS]

00:12:54   she's also very concerned about her text [TS]

00:12:56   going out which is kind of adorable [TS]

00:12:58   mhm and and I think the little film [TS]

00:13:00   makes you as the the viewer also be [TS]

00:13:03   concerned about her to getting your [TS]

00:13:04   texts that might be mostly because it [TS]

00:13:06   doesn't spend a lot of time telling you [TS]

00:13:08   all about the mission and the aliens and [TS]

00:13:10   like that is that is not the world that [TS]

00:13:13   our characters are are in right there [TS]

00:13:15   just you know just heard you're up to [TS]

00:13:17   this world whatever it's just it's just [TS]

00:13:18   work right and even barely that because [TS]

00:13:21   she even even share as this precocious [TS]

00:13:23   child who is [TS]

00:13:24   qualified to pilot these next for [TS]

00:13:25   whatever reason that they always end up [TS]

00:13:27   five lines max she's a little bit in [TS]

00:13:30   over her head to like she's all just [TS]

00:13:32   kind of crunched up in her little pop [TS]

00:13:33   there we don't see lots of friends and [TS]

00:13:34   people and superiors talking to her even [TS]

00:13:36   like the other pilots in the other [TS]

00:13:38   mixture connection is entirely back home [TS]

00:13:39   so we don't want her to lose that [TS]

00:13:41   connection even as we see the giant ship [TS]

00:13:43   like crackling and warping beneath her [TS]

00:13:46   like some ship could warp out and she [TS]

00:13:48   would be there is stranded in space and [TS]

00:13:50   dead or the aliens could attack and kill [TS]

00:13:52   her and the ship but we really worried [TS]

00:13:53   or at least I am watching it [TS]

00:13:54   she should get that phone back she's [TS]

00:13:55   gonna be eight years away and you don't [TS]

00:13:57   get it's like long-distance relationship [TS]

00:13:59   is one thing she said it's kind of like [TS]

00:14:00   air mail and they're like no not airmail [TS]

00:14:02   8.6 light-years deal with that I think [TS]

00:14:05   they did a really good job or the art [TS]

00:14:07   style is really good at showing how [TS]

00:14:08   isolating that feeling is to like that i [TS]

00:14:13   don't want to be say like unrequited [TS]

00:14:14   love but you know that i don't know like [TS]

00:14:18   having a crush on somebody and knowing [TS]

00:14:20   that nothing is going to come of it is [TS]

00:14:23   really kind of in isolating feeling like [TS]

00:14:25   you could have contact and you know [TS]

00:14:28   whatever but really you're kind of alone [TS]

00:14:30   in it and I thought that the way you [TS]

00:14:33   know the the mac kinda faded in and out [TS]

00:14:36   and you know in in for battles and then [TS]

00:14:39   kind of out during you know the the [TS]

00:14:41   frantic text messaging and I thought it [TS]

00:14:45   Illustrated it really well [TS]

00:14:46   yeah definitely and I mean I mentioned [TS]

00:14:48   the shots of power lines which is a [TS]

00:14:50   thing that I have seen in a lot of [TS]

00:14:51   different anime i think used to for sort [TS]

00:14:54   of different reasons in different ones I [TS]

00:14:56   I kind of like to sort of anachronistic [TS]

00:14:58   idea that in this case the power lines [TS]

00:15:00   are supposed to sort of represent the [TS]

00:15:02   communication and the fact that her [TS]

00:15:04   messages are are going along these you [TS]

00:15:06   know totally different types of lines [TS]

00:15:07   but we keep getting reminded of of [TS]

00:15:10   communications by by looking at the at [TS]

00:15:13   the power lines over and over and over [TS]

00:15:14   again so my favorite thing and anime as [TS]

00:15:17   i mentioned every one of these episodes [TS]

00:15:18   so heavily featured in this like most of [TS]

00:15:21   the time anime has one or two scenes [TS]

00:15:23   that do this thing where they will show [TS]

00:15:25   you some moment or sensation or whatever [TS]

00:15:29   like this one almost the entire thing is [TS]

00:15:33   made up of seems like that and it is so [TS]

00:15:36   pervasive because it's not just like one [TS]

00:15:38   shot that takes you like to a different [TS]

00:15:40   place the different headspace the whole [TS]

00:15:42   movie takes you two different headspace [TS]

00:15:44   and it combines to give you an [TS]

00:15:47   incredible sense of of place like it's [TS]

00:15:49   clear that the people who made this [TS]

00:15:51   movie this place that they're showing [TS]

00:15:53   you all these different scenes and every [TS]

00:15:55   lingering detail on a railing a [TS]

00:15:58   powerline a set of fences or barriers in [TS]

00:16:02   a city or asphalt or like just the way [TS]

00:16:05   they're the this is real place on earth [TS]

00:16:08   that they're very intimately familiar [TS]

00:16:09   with the camera spends a lot of time not [TS]

00:16:12   pointing at people's faces or maybe not [TS]

00:16:14   pointing characters that also but just [TS]

00:16:15   showing things like I mean we know this [TS]

00:16:18   guy likes trains go they go back and [TS]

00:16:20   forth he likes the details of the little [TS]

00:16:23   guardrails that come up and down the [TS]

00:16:24   power lines everyone and not just that [TS]

00:16:26   the power lines of the communications [TS]

00:16:28   but there are so many of them that this [TS]

00:16:29   is clearly like you know nineties a era [TS]

00:16:32   Japan where the number of wires going [TS]

00:16:35   everywhere like the density of the [TS]

00:16:37   population the number of wires going [TS]

00:16:38   over is just insane and all the nature [TS]

00:16:40   and the nature sounds everything like [TS]

00:16:41   that it's it's very unconventional [TS]

00:16:43   reconstructed it's almost kind of like a [TS]

00:16:45   Terrence Malick movie or something where [TS]

00:16:48   you have all these lingering shots of [TS]

00:16:50   city machinery and nature and empty [TS]

00:16:54   rooms with nobody in them and with just [TS]

00:16:56   some lightning wind blowing through them [TS]

00:16:57   and you're like it is this is a is this [TS]

00:17:01   a tone poem versus actual and actually a [TS]

00:17:03   narrative but this movie managers I [TS]

00:17:05   think to construct a narrative mostly [TS]

00:17:08   out of scenes not involving characters [TS]

00:17:10   let alone characters in modem you're [TS]

00:17:11   talking like this [TS]

00:17:12   I don't know if he was up for the you [TS]

00:17:14   know how much times attempt they spend [TS]

00:17:16   showing a character space with emotion [TS]

00:17:18   on it almost all the emotion this movie [TS]

00:17:20   is done through what the characters c [TS]

00:17:22   and and what it reminds me mostly of is [TS]

00:17:24   like like a memory like your live this [TS]

00:17:27   this whole movie is like a memory [TS]

00:17:28   because you live something that's like [TS]

00:17:29   yeah you go through your day or whatever [TS]

00:17:31   but when you think back oh that that [TS]

00:17:32   summer I spent in Tokyo or whatever you [TS]

00:17:35   think back on these type of moments and [TS]

00:17:36   this is like a memory reached backwards [TS]

00:17:38   and [TS]

00:17:39   it came all the way back to the present [TS]

00:17:41   and these people are living in it now [TS]

00:17:43   even though this is how they're going to [TS]

00:17:44   remember it later it's it's really weird [TS]

00:17:46   sensation it's a and it's something that [TS]

00:17:48   animation conduct can do pretty well [TS]

00:17:49   because people are more count tolerant I [TS]

00:17:52   think of unconventional storytelling [TS]

00:17:55   when it's animated and especially when [TS]

00:17:56   you have robots flying around and they [TS]

00:17:58   don't mind that you're going to spend a [TS]

00:18:00   seven-second shots showing the little [TS]

00:18:02   heater that's in a little building for [TS]

00:18:03   in the wintertime when it gets cold [TS]

00:18:05   no it actually took me until the second [TS]

00:18:07   movie before I recognize pick out was [TS]

00:18:09   because because it wasn't like doing [TS]

00:18:11   anything that's like huh I wonder what [TS]

00:18:12   that is and then later and adapt you [TS]

00:18:14   what you'll see it again don't worry i [TS]

00:18:16   think the I think that this does a [TS]

00:18:19   better job of it visually than it does [TS]

00:18:22   you know from put anchoring you in a in [TS]

00:18:24   a place in a feeling than it does when [TS]

00:18:26   it comes to the actual sort of narration [TS]

00:18:29   and info dumps and stuff when it first [TS]

00:18:32   started I didn't mind the info dumps at [TS]

00:18:34   the beginning because at the very very [TS]

00:18:36   beginning you've got the two kids [TS]

00:18:38   together in in life and it's this hyper [TS]

00:18:41   active young boy who is just jabbering [TS]

00:18:43   on a mile a minute which seems very very [TS]

00:18:46   realistic he's talking about space and [TS]

00:18:48   all that kind of stuff so that's that's [TS]

00:18:49   where you learn about that it didn't [TS]

00:18:51   strike me as you know well as you know [TS]

00:18:53   Bob it wasn't one of those because it [TS]

00:18:55   was just the way kids talk and then when [TS]

00:18:57   it was messages being read out loud in [TS]

00:19:00   between them you know in either one of [TS]

00:19:01   their voices that was fine too because [TS]

00:19:03   those are the messages that they are [TS]

00:19:05   reading and hearing in the other [TS]

00:19:06   person's voice in their head so that was [TS]

00:19:08   fine but as it got kind of towards the [TS]

00:19:10   second half towards the end it was it [TS]

00:19:14   was really most of it was just voiceover [TS]

00:19:16   from especially the boy talking to [TS]

00:19:18   himself or just doing a voiceover I [TS]

00:19:21   guess to tell us how he made his [TS]

00:19:23   decision to live his life in his time [TS]

00:19:25   and how he stuck with that but but those [TS]

00:19:28   words were not really diegetic in any [TS]

00:19:30   way they weren't him reading off a [TS]

00:19:31   message they weren't him writing in a [TS]

00:19:33   diary at least not that we can see so I [TS]

00:19:35   felt like it's stuck out a little bit [TS]

00:19:38   more like a sore thumb because there was [TS]

00:19:39   no in story reason for it whereas [TS]

00:19:41   earlier in this piece all of the all of [TS]

00:19:44   the words that we were getting really [TS]

00:19:46   were a part of the fabric of what it was [TS]

00:19:49   we were seeing it's almost like we had a [TS]

00:19:51   time crunch there it's like [TS]

00:19:52   let me get this thing finished at some [TS]

00:19:54   point he knows all and i also wonder if [TS]

00:19:56   it was kind of intended to be if i could [TS]

00:20:00   get an email to her in a timely manner [TS]

00:20:02   this is what it would say like that's [TS]

00:20:04   the thing that I've I do all the time as [TS]

00:20:07   I compose things that I never actually [TS]

00:20:08   right in my head and so maybe that's [TS]

00:20:11   that can be a way to kind of hand waving [TS]

00:20:14   okay to just very much felt like he was [TS]

00:20:16   talking to us and not himself [TS]

00:20:19   yeah yeah i mean like this a problem [TS]

00:20:21   with the structure of this movie as you [TS]

00:20:22   have these two and you pull them apart [TS]

00:20:23   at a certain point that distance become [TS]

00:20:25   so great that the boys left sort of [TS]

00:20:27   abandoned but if you don't introduce any [TS]

00:20:29   other characters who does he have to to [TS]

00:20:31   tell this too is only so much you can [TS]

00:20:32   express through the scenery lie i would [TS]

00:20:35   argue the five centimeters per second is [TS]

00:20:36   a much better job of showing the short i [TS]

00:20:38   think in by the time five centimeters [TS]

00:20:40   per second comes along this same [TS]

00:20:42   director writer and this you know like [TS]

00:20:44   it was better able to show how people [TS]

00:20:48   are feeling without having them simply [TS]

00:20:49   to read I like I decided to harden my [TS]

00:20:50   heart and I was gonna like you are right [TS]

00:20:52   we can get that in other ways but in [TS]

00:20:53   this movie is to write us to just said [TS]

00:20:55   straight out although i think the reason [TS]

00:20:58   i'm mostly distracted by what is a lot [TS]

00:21:01   of on-the-nose dialogue and riding in [TS]

00:21:03   this and it's hard to tell a lot of his [TS]

00:21:04   bad translation to but it's very it's [TS]

00:21:08   very sort of in the voice of characters [TS]

00:21:11   this age and characters age are silly [TS]

00:21:13   and don't know anything so they're very [TS]

00:21:15   very overblown and dramatic and and so [TS]

00:21:18   that's you know and so that that's the [TS]

00:21:19   the dialogue but at the same time very [TS]

00:21:21   often it's intercut with these but I [TS]

00:21:23   think even even with the limitations of [TS]

00:21:25   tech very beautiful poignant scenes of [TS]

00:21:28   you know ship space warping or you know [TS]

00:21:31   the wind blowing or sun setting so a lot [TS]

00:21:34   of the time I am charmed by the visuals [TS]

00:21:36   enough to not be bothered by the [TS]

00:21:39   somewhat stilted writer order to forgive [TS]

00:21:42   the you know the the blabbering of [TS]

00:21:44   lovesick teenagers being like this this [TS]

00:21:47   animation is really nice though that was [TS]

00:21:49   very clever that was very well done and [TS]

00:21:50   I have to but also just being impressed [TS]

00:21:52   that this one guy newly on his computer [TS]

00:21:55   did all this stuff and you know like it [TS]

00:21:58   as you know this because I know what [TS]

00:22:00   comes after as I see the promise like as [TS]

00:22:03   i see you know the these ideas and this [TS]

00:22:05   artistic sensibility and this way of [TS]

00:22:08   telling stories plus more experience [TS]

00:22:11   more time and a lot more money and I [TS]

00:22:14   don't have to imagine what that looks [TS]

00:22:15   like because we actually see it but [TS]

00:22:16   anyway and and I also think that the [TS]

00:22:18   story on this one it got times it [TS]

00:22:21   doesn't [TS]

00:22:22   is it more complete and conventional the [TS]

00:22:25   other one anyway this one definitely go [TS]

00:22:26   somewhere things happen there are [TS]

00:22:28   battles right yeah IDK what weird at the [TS]

00:22:31   end which is another thing that's kind [TS]

00:22:33   of typical of a lot of everything I've [TS]

00:22:35   seen so I just rolled with it [TS]

00:22:37   yeah there's that moment where the so [TS]

00:22:39   much for there's a moment where the [TS]

00:22:40   aliens kind of come on to her neck and [TS]

00:22:44   kind of attached and then she like blast [TS]

00:22:47   them away that I couldn't decide what [TS]

00:22:49   that meant and if that was an attack or [TS]

00:22:53   an attempt to connect or whether [TS]

00:22:56   everything that happens after that is a [TS]

00:22:58   dream because they've gotten her brain [TS]

00:22:59   or you know they just it was like my ok [TS]

00:23:01   that happened which does happen to me a [TS]

00:23:03   lot when I'm watching animes like all [TS]

00:23:05   right go with it roll with it [TS]

00:23:06   um but they do get they do get to the [TS]

00:23:08   light when she's on the planet [TS]

00:23:10   I in this serious system and there's [TS]

00:23:13   there's almost like a moment of like [TS]

00:23:15   she's like she's flying around she's [TS]

00:23:17   kind of looking at the at the at the the [TS]

00:23:19   sky and all of that and she's feeling [TS]

00:23:21   kind of nostalgic and it's almost like I [TS]

00:23:22   wish I could share this with you moment [TS]

00:23:24   that i thought was a pretty great bit of [TS]

00:23:26   visual or she wishes she could be back [TS]

00:23:28   in a convenience store and getting wet [TS]

00:23:30   terrain because that's like she's she's [TS]

00:23:32   on an alien planet and a giant Maxine [TS]

00:23:34   things and no human has ever seen before [TS]

00:23:35   and she just wants to to you know be [TS]

00:23:38   down at the corner store where we had to [TS]

00:23:39   run to get out of the rain that one time [TS]

00:23:40   I i think if i had a an issue with this [TS]

00:23:43   story it is that and you guys lived to [TS]

00:23:46   it which is it the room as an adult I [TS]

00:23:50   look at this and think in reality that [TS]

00:23:54   that boy has nine years where he's [TS]

00:23:57   gotten to text messages from her and I [TS]

00:23:59   felt like the absence of other people in [TS]

00:24:01   his life is the part that I thought and [TS]

00:24:03   i get i get the romantic aspect of this [TS]

00:24:05   and why they wanted to keep that but she [TS]

00:24:07   you know she's staying 15 not only has [TS]

00:24:09   he now nine years older than her but [TS]

00:24:11   he's lived nine years he's presumably [TS]

00:24:13   let's be serious here he had other [TS]

00:24:16   people in his life other relationships [TS]

00:24:19   you know with with just people in [TS]

00:24:21   general that he probably isn't like in a [TS]

00:24:23   room by himself for nine years and it [TS]

00:24:26   makes that way more messy and [TS]

00:24:27   complicated and and it not destroyed it [TS]

00:24:29   that they want to tell here which is [TS]

00:24:32   this is this special relationship that [TS]

00:24:34   will go on through time and space but it [TS]

00:24:38   in a way that five centimeters per [TS]

00:24:39   second doesn't do this movie keeps it [TS]

00:24:42   kind of idea like you know what they say [TS]

00:24:44   Jason near far wherever you are I know [TS]

00:24:49   your heart I something without a heart i [TS]

00:24:51   think i think they're actually telling [TS]

00:24:53   the story they want to tell here because [TS]

00:24:55   this this whole sure is is supposed to [TS]

00:24:59   be about that feeling you have when you [TS]

00:25:01   were this age that this first love is [TS]

00:25:04   going to be the only one and this one is [TS]

00:25:06   that's from her perspective it works for [TS]

00:25:08   me but I know not like I I understand [TS]

00:25:11   what you're saying that that is it seems [TS]

00:25:12   i really have the board with that but no [TS]

00:25:13   it is to the audience is trying to be an [TS]

00:25:15   audience feel that thing that they felt [TS]

00:25:17   and I think they get away with it mostly [TS]

00:25:18   because from from the boy's perspective [TS]

00:25:21   like all we get is when he's younger sis [TS]

00:25:23   I'm harden my heart and then we don't [TS]

00:25:26   have him mooning over 49 years we just [TS]

00:25:28   skip to the end essentially when he gets [TS]

00:25:30   the text messages and he shocked and I [TS]

00:25:32   can imagine him living his normal life [TS]

00:25:34   for those nine years doing all the [TS]

00:25:35   things you talked about we didn't get to [TS]

00:25:37   see that we weren't living that with him [TS]

00:25:38   we're still living her [TS]

00:25:39   yeah upset feelings on the planet and [TS]

00:25:41   you can also imagine him getting that [TS]

00:25:43   text message and being like oh I you [TS]

00:25:46   know like you bury it you push it down [TS]

00:25:47   you forget all about it you live your [TS]

00:25:49   life then it comes back in a second [TS]

00:25:50   because you just you know it's like he [TS]

00:25:52   by then he probably will have forgotten [TS]

00:25:54   that he was even gonna be getting this [TS]

00:25:55   text messages from those ratios and also [TS]

00:25:57   by the way they show that he's kind of [TS]

00:26:00   keeping up with the space thing because [TS]

00:26:01   you still kinda into that right now he's [TS]

00:26:03   gotta go gezina and stuff [TS]

00:26:05   the moving pictures the harry potter [TS]

00:26:07   picture yeah well and the cover of that [TS]

00:26:09   magazine essentially tells you the [TS]

00:26:11   result tells you the result of the final [TS]

00:26:12   battle that the use of you have not yet [TS]

00:26:14   seen which I thought was clever where [TS]

00:26:16   they tell you the other ships were [TS]

00:26:17   destroyed the only one [TS]

00:26:18   has just returned the one that she was [TS]

00:26:20   on like you you know that how that's [TS]

00:26:22   going to work out you don't know that [TS]

00:26:23   she's a pivotally involved in it but [TS]

00:26:24   he's keeping up with that you could say [TS]

00:26:28   skipping out that because it's like he's [TS]

00:26:29   holding a a flame for her but he could [TS]

00:26:32   just still be into space [TS]

00:26:33   he did cover a little bit because he [TS]

00:26:35   even says in his his out loud dialogue [TS]

00:26:37   that that he stuck to his guns and he [TS]

00:26:40   did leave his life without her and he's [TS]

00:26:43   got his military service that's about to [TS]

00:26:45   start so so I mean you get like tiny [TS]

00:26:47   little hints of the fact that he has [TS]

00:26:48   been living his life but I i do like the [TS]

00:26:51   fact that the the moment that he gets [TS]

00:26:53   his the text from her that he does [TS]

00:26:55   happen to be alone and we do get to [TS]

00:26:57   experience that sort of you know purity [TS]

00:26:59   of just having these two characters [TS]

00:27:01   interacting and no nobody else muddying [TS]

00:27:03   things up and get a lot of its gotta be [TS]

00:27:05   like budget like drawing more people is [TS]

00:27:06   harder getting more voice actors you [TS]

00:27:08   only have you and your girlfriend to do [TS]

00:27:09   the voices like it's this is a small a [TS]

00:27:12   small film and all the ways things have [TS]

00:27:14   to be small where and think about it for [TS]

00:27:16   for a short movie like this is a fairly [TS]

00:27:19   complicated involved high-concept type [TS]

00:27:21   of thing here with this a lot of plot [TS]

00:27:23   involving the entrance is not really [TS]

00:27:25   important to the story accepted as like [TS]

00:27:27   a contrast to the rest of the story and [TS]

00:27:30   you said towards the end we have to have [TS]

00:27:32   things progress we have to have them go [TS]

00:27:34   eight years away but we can't show you [TS]

00:27:36   like this is not an episodic thing where [TS]

00:27:38   we get to see to their you know [TS]

00:27:39   adventures and and separated by time to [TS]

00:27:42   list of you have to have to kind of [TS]

00:27:43   bring this to a big finish and the Big [TS]

00:27:46   Finish is also weird because it's so [TS]

00:27:48   widely separated by time because her big [TS]

00:27:49   finish is you know not that long after [TS]

00:27:52   the beginning of the movie and his is [TS]

00:27:55   many many years is you know after all [TS]

00:27:57   that has ended so we don't actually know [TS]

00:27:59   what happens to her in the eighth [TS]

00:28:00   obviously she doesn't come back to earth [TS]

00:28:02   because i think they wouldn't mention [TS]

00:28:03   that but she's she's dead out there with [TS]

00:28:05   the aliens you find and then the toxins [TS]

00:28:06   are totally typical and me we're not [TS]

00:28:08   gonna explain these aliens guess it's [TS]

00:28:10   supposed to be ambiguous you don't know [TS]

00:28:11   where they tryin to be friendly [TS]

00:28:12   are you know who is the bad guy or the [TS]

00:28:15   humans the bad guy or the alien is [TS]

00:28:16   totally not clear at all the horrors of [TS]

00:28:19   war the fact that she's killing because [TS]

00:28:21   she's been trained to kill [TS]

00:28:22   but is that has ambiguous feelings about [TS]

00:28:24   it has as all young teenagers who pilot [TS]

00:28:27   giant mechs do it sometime or another [TS]

00:28:28   there [TS]

00:28:29   here's so typical that's all straight up [TS]

00:28:32   the middle and exactly as expected and [TS]

00:28:35   it i don't know I I dogs is a lovely [TS]

00:28:39   mixture of like fanservice and known [TS]

00:28:42   means mixed in with other stuff that is [TS]

00:28:44   definitely weirder than those other [TS]

00:28:45   shows that are much more conventional in [TS]

00:28:48   the treatment of both the the teenage [TS]

00:28:51   love story and the aliens vs humans [TS]

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00:30:22   beginning is apparently the speed at [TS]

00:30:24   which cherry blossoms fall huh is [TS]

00:30:27   actually true do anything like that [TS]

00:30:28   don't fact-check I don't want to know [TS]

00:30:30   what that's going to say license that's [TS]

00:30:32   why they that's why it's apparently [TS]

00:30:34   called that this is going to be the [TS]

00:30:37   story of tono who we meet here in part [TS]

00:30:42   one [TS]

00:30:42   so three parts in this story part one is [TS]

00:30:44   called cherry blossom we learned that [TS]

00:30:46   the cherry blossoms following are [TS]

00:30:48   apparently if I centimeters per second [TS]

00:30:49   because that's totally the title of the [TS]

00:30:51   movie and we meet tono and his friend [TS]

00:30:55   akari and yes indeed this is a film that [TS]

00:30:57   has a very similar plot to the voices of [TS]

00:31:01   a distant star except way fewer aliens [TS]

00:31:05   and space max but the the boy and girl [TS]

00:31:10   who meet and become fast friends [TS]

00:31:12   early on in school and then are [TS]

00:31:14   separated just as they're reaching [TS]

00:31:16   adolescents is absolutely the same story [TS]

00:31:19   here except here it's just she moves [TS]

00:31:21   away and then and then I think he moves [TS]

00:31:24   away or he moves away and then she moves [TS]

00:31:26   away and so they're separated by [TS]

00:31:27   distance and they're separated by even [TS]

00:31:29   further distance later on and I and so [TS]

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00:31:34   segments and in the product that thing [TS]

00:31:36   that i found most impressive for our [TS]

00:31:38   most important in the cherry blossom [TS]

00:31:39   segment is we spend a whole lot of time [TS]

00:31:43   with without with tono on a train going [TS]

00:31:47   to see her it's been a year since they [TS]

00:31:49   said goodbye and and he wants to go see [TS]

00:31:54   her and he has to take a train to [TS]

00:31:58   another train to another train to [TS]

00:31:59   another train and there's snow and there [TS]

00:32:01   are delays and and the the movie takes [TS]

00:32:05   and it's only an hour long but we take a [TS]

00:32:07   long time to experience the nervousness [TS]

00:32:10   of not just of seeing her for the first [TS]

00:32:13   time in a year but the end and obviously [TS]

00:32:16   he's had a lot of time to think about [TS]

00:32:18   her because they were they were friends [TS]

00:32:20   before but they've been sending letters [TS]

00:32:23   and and he's been thinking about a lot [TS]

00:32:25   and now he's super nervous about the [TS]

00:32:27   whole thing and stressed about the trip [TS]

00:32:29   and their snow and there are delays and [TS]

00:32:32   keeps looking at his watch because he's [TS]

00:32:33   supposed to be there at seven and it [TS]

00:32:35   gets later and later our expressing his [TS]

00:32:38   is a passionate love for he's carrying [TS]

00:32:40   that with him too [TS]

00:32:41   yeah exactly and and so that that's the [TS]

00:32:43   thing that sticks with me from this part [TS]

00:32:45   is that is that time it's not all on the [TS]

00:32:47   train and we we see i should say because [TS]

00:32:50   it's important later that opening scene [TS]

00:32:52   they're crossing train tracks and the [TS]

00:32:54   cherry blossoms are coming down [TS]

00:32:55   phone that's also paired with the last [TS]

00:32:58   shot of the movie that comes much you [TS]

00:33:00   know comes at the end when it's much [TS]

00:33:01   later in their lives but I that train [TS]

00:33:06   stuff is going to stick with me for a [TS]

00:33:07   very long time the thing that blew me [TS]

00:33:09   away about this film in general in this [TS]

00:33:10   segment in particular is the almost you [TS]

00:33:13   know photorealism or hyper realism of [TS]

00:33:15   the scenery there are light effects [TS]

00:33:17   there's reflections on desks there's [TS]

00:33:19   wrote those reflections and on glass [TS]

00:33:23   there's rain dripping down that was [TS]

00:33:25   super realistic because that obviously [TS]

00:33:27   is computer-aided stuff there's a [TS]

00:33:29   flickering fluorescent light on the [TS]

00:33:31   train at one point which just blew me [TS]

00:33:33   away [TS]

00:33:34   yes PFI and yet it still feels like [TS]

00:33:36   anime because the characters are all [TS]

00:33:38   like anime looking you know looking like [TS]

00:33:41   their cell drawn they behave like [TS]

00:33:43   traditional anime but they are in this [TS]

00:33:44   world that is beautiful and like i said [TS]

00:33:48   i wrote down photorealistic and then I [TS]

00:33:50   changed it to kind of hyper realistic as [TS]

00:33:52   hyper as beyond it it's not it doesn't [TS]

00:33:55   always look real but it looks like more [TS]

00:33:58   there's some message like boards with [TS]

00:34:01   the information about where the trains [TS]

00:34:02   are coming that it's like I would love [TS]

00:34:03   real message boards to look like that [TS]

00:34:05   they don't all they do if they do in [TS]

00:34:07   Japan maybe they do these are super like [TS]

00:34:10   impressive [TS]

00:34:10   it's just amazing that look it looks [TS]

00:34:12   like a memory everything looks like a [TS]

00:34:13   memory because it glows and and and [TS]

00:34:15   between dimensions land of letters on [TS]

00:34:17   but it's so clear that everyone involved [TS]

00:34:19   in making this is obsessively dedicated [TS]

00:34:24   to the details like that first 129 T [TS]

00:34:26   cell phones those screens on the 90 cell [TS]

00:34:28   phones like so so dedicated to making a [TS]

00:34:30   realistic-looking screens [TS]

00:34:32   yeah that may or may not be exact copies [TS]

00:34:33   of actual products and all these like [TS]

00:34:36   it's the same thing that there was [TS]

00:34:38   attempted voices of a distant star [TS]

00:34:39   they're not exact because there's a mac [TS]

00:34:41   in this movie and there's no apple menu [TS]

00:34:43   there's just all the other menu so yeah [TS]

00:34:45   it's pretty it's pretty obsessive they [TS]

00:34:47   created the maggots kinda it's kinda [TS]

00:34:48   like when a perfect blue you know the [TS]

00:34:50   details are are like the keyboard like [TS]

00:34:52   that they sat down and then they had the [TS]

00:34:54   actual things and drew them but all the [TS]

00:34:56   stuff about is all different places i [TS]

00:34:57   think the wikipedia page has some shots [TS]

00:34:59   and voices it just started shows the [TS]

00:35:00   actual places in the animation so it's [TS]

00:35:02   almost as if it's rotoscoped just every [TS]

00:35:04   setting seen gadget in this is [TS]

00:35:08   so like this when somebody shot showing [TS]

00:35:10   pens and pencils and maps and lots and [TS]

00:35:13   lots and lots of shots of things things [TS]

00:35:16   and places and scenery and nature and [TS]

00:35:19   the sound of bugs in the summertime and [TS]

00:35:20   the hot Sun and every little item in the [TS]

00:35:23   room or the convenience store or [TS]

00:35:26   wherever it is you know the school and [TS]

00:35:28   and the desks and the erasers and and [TS]

00:35:30   all your notes in your mechanical pencil [TS]

00:35:32   i love that stuff because like I said [TS]

00:35:34   you'd normally anime we just have a [TS]

00:35:36   couple of scenes that and this is an [TS]

00:35:37   entire movie of it combined with like [TS]

00:35:39   you said the hyper-real that the world [TS]

00:35:42   there and it almost looks like an alien [TS]

00:35:43   planet at certain points it's like a [TS]

00:35:44   dream sequence was kind of an alien [TS]

00:35:46   planet but even the regular planets look [TS]

00:35:47   like does did the sky and the clouds [TS]

00:35:50   never look like that like they did when [TS]

00:35:52   you're in love and 11 I guess [TS]

00:35:55   alright and so this the whole movie is [TS]

00:35:57   his view through through that lens and [TS]

00:35:59   it is amazing looking and I really feel [TS]

00:36:01   like voices distant star was trying to [TS]

00:36:03   do this but the talent and money and [TS]

00:36:05   time are not yet they're here was like [TS]

00:36:07   six or seven years later is a you know [TS]

00:36:10   sort of a realization of the same vision [TS]

00:36:12   only cranked up to 11 [TS]

00:36:14   yeah I i watched voices of a distant [TS]

00:36:16   star in and then followed it immediately [TS]

00:36:18   with this so at the very beginning of [TS]

00:36:21   this um I i was a little bit bored [TS]

00:36:24   because I just felt like the beginning [TS]

00:36:27   of the cherry blossom part seemed kind [TS]

00:36:28   of interminable we had all of those [TS]

00:36:30   letters from a Kauri it was really just [TS]

00:36:32   mostly from her and I didn't feel [TS]

00:36:35   connected to her as a character at all [TS]

00:36:36   so I was kind of like oh boy what am I [TS]

00:36:38   in for for a whole hour of this because [TS]

00:36:40   I knew is longer and then when it [TS]

00:36:42   switched over to tonos train journey [TS]

00:36:44   everything changed that was that was [TS]

00:36:46   when i bought in for the same reasons [TS]

00:36:48   jason said like everything was real [TS]

00:36:49   around it I was like I could relate to [TS]

00:36:52   that tension i found myself just like [TS]

00:36:54   you know my my shoulders kind of [TS]

00:36:55   creeping up to around my ears going on a [TS]

00:36:58   journey like that you know being nervous [TS]

00:37:00   about it in the first place and then [TS]

00:37:01   having it be delayed and interrupted in [TS]

00:37:03   the frustration that brings and you know [TS]

00:37:06   John you always mention that the tiny [TS]

00:37:07   beautiful moments that that you love and [TS]

00:37:09   you're right this one was was completely [TS]

00:37:11   full of them but two of my favorites [TS]

00:37:13   were during the train journey I think [TS]

00:37:16   maybe my favorite moment of the whole [TS]

00:37:18   thing was when he's on the train and it [TS]

00:37:20   well before any of the delays start [TS]

00:37:22   happening it's still just the [TS]

00:37:23   nervousness of setting out to see her [TS]

00:37:25   and he reaches into his pocket for his [TS]

00:37:27   itinerary like he's gonna pull it out [TS]

00:37:29   for like the hundredth time and look at [TS]

00:37:31   it again and then he realizes he doesn't [TS]

00:37:33   need to look at it again he's seen it [TS]

00:37:35   enough times he's just doing it out of [TS]

00:37:36   nervous habit so he doesn't even pull it [TS]

00:37:38   all the way out he sort of talk sit back [TS]

00:37:39   and back and restrains himself and I i [TS]

00:37:42   have done that i have been there that [TS]

00:37:44   moment was just it was just pure gold [TS]

00:37:46   and then shortly after once it's snowing [TS]

00:37:49   there's this great shot of a close-up of [TS]

00:37:52   the inside of a train window where [TS]

00:37:54   you've got you know the moisture has [TS]

00:37:57   cooled on the inside of the window and [TS]

00:37:58   just around the edges you get like ice [TS]

00:38:00   where it's just iced up just around the [TS]

00:38:03   window pane and there's no people in it [TS]

00:38:05   you just see a tiny bit of outside and [TS]

00:38:07   mostly it's just ice it from the inside [TS]

00:38:09   of a window and it just it it cut [TS]

00:38:11   through to the heart of me it was great [TS]

00:38:13   and the details a lot of these shots [TS]

00:38:14   like that are extreme close-ups with [TS]

00:38:16   detail not only is the stuff you're [TS]

00:38:18   supposed to look at incredibly [TS]

00:38:20   interesting detail but there are often [TS]

00:38:23   like labels or even like on glass labels [TS]

00:38:25   that are on the outside so their labels [TS]

00:38:27   that are stuck on backward from our [TS]

00:38:29   perspective they're everywhere it's [TS]

00:38:32   fascinating it's just yeah all of that [TS]

00:38:34   and like like I said the flickering [TS]

00:38:36   fluorescent light killed me i also was [TS]

00:38:37   interested by the scene where he um he [TS]

00:38:40   at one point is very tired he takes his [TS]

00:38:41   watch off and set it on the table next [TS]

00:38:43   to him but that's after he's like that's [TS]

00:38:45   it forget it because i can't keep [TS]

00:38:47   looking at this watch I'm gonna forget [TS]

00:38:48   your watch if you leave it in the [TS]

00:38:49   training to do yeah you know those [TS]

00:38:52   details like there were so many almost [TS]

00:38:55   real-life logos you know like they [TS]

00:38:57   changed a letter or they changed like [TS]

00:39:00   starbucks mcdonalds they change a letter [TS]

00:39:03   or a little detail in the logo to make [TS]

00:39:04   it just slightly different and I really [TS]

00:39:07   really enjoyed that and the beginning of [TS]

00:39:10   it I think Eric I felt kind of part of [TS]

00:39:13   what you were feeling to where I was [TS]

00:39:15   like is this could be an hour of her [TS]

00:39:17   talking to him and letters and we just [TS]

00:39:20   kind of see what he's doing and I think [TS]

00:39:21   that kind of once i realized that wasn't [TS]

00:39:24   going to be the entire thing I felt a [TS]

00:39:26   lot better about it like exactly yeah [TS]

00:39:29   like a teenage girl pining after boys [TS]

00:39:32   you know that [TS]

00:39:33   I've done that I think this is something [TS]

00:39:35   I've experienced so I don't know that I [TS]

00:39:38   necessarily want to relive that and once [TS]

00:39:40   they got into you know actually telling [TS]

00:39:42   the story of the journey and and can it [TS]

00:39:46   interlacing their background and their [TS]

00:39:49   relationship i felt a lot better about [TS]

00:39:52   it [TS]

00:39:52   yeah actually the one point where i did [TS]

00:39:54   finally sort of not completely by into [TS]

00:39:57   akari as a character but when he gets to [TS]

00:40:01   the station and you know he's he's just [TS]

00:40:03   so tense and he's been waiting all this [TS]

00:40:05   time and then you find out that she has [TS]

00:40:07   to [TS]

00:40:07   she's just been sitting there all by [TS]

00:40:09   herself waiting for him to show up and [TS]

00:40:11   he gets there and he walks up to her and [TS]

00:40:13   when she realizes he's finally there [TS]

00:40:15   it's like she can't quite believe it she [TS]

00:40:17   just all she can do is clutch his coat [TS]

00:40:19   and cry like that moment totally [TS]

00:40:22   resonated because you know you're just [TS]

00:40:23   so overcome with emotion you have no [TS]

00:40:26   real way to let it out and she is not [TS]

00:40:28   quite comfortable enough with him in [TS]

00:40:30   person to embrace him or even look up [TS]

00:40:32   and meet his eyes she's so worn thin by [TS]

00:40:35   all this waiting all she can do is just [TS]

00:40:37   cling to the hem of his coat and cry [TS]

00:40:39   unto her shoes and oh my god I broke [TS]

00:40:42   down at that point I just lost it he's [TS]

00:40:44   four hours late for the record he was [TS]

00:40:45   supposed to be there at seven it's about [TS]

00:40:46   eleven-fifteen when you arrive you're a [TS]

00:40:48   person who likes to be on time don't [TS]

00:40:49   watch this movie oh yeah it was really [TS]

00:40:52   in addition to all the emotional turmoil [TS]

00:40:54   like like that but that doesn't feel the [TS]

00:40:56   same way about that the train being late [TS]

00:40:58   seem like they just do everything right [TS]

00:41:00   in that from myself from that from the [TS]

00:41:01   showing showing things that you know you [TS]

00:41:04   know the people who made this movie had [TS]

00:41:05   to have ridden trains during the winter [TS]

00:41:07   right you know show is like and and it [TS]

00:41:10   makes you when you recognize something [TS]

00:41:11   like that if they I've read and trains [TS]

00:41:13   limited to have also seen that for us [TS]

00:41:14   and I've also been on that train with [TS]

00:41:15   the Flickinger prickling for fluorescent [TS]

00:41:17   light and with a bunch of strangers or [TS]

00:41:19   maybe I'm alone in the car and that [TS]

00:41:20   feeling like that makes you believe all [TS]

00:41:22   the other things they show like I've [TS]

00:41:24   never been in a weird convenience store [TS]

00:41:25   in Japan but they have these little [TS]

00:41:26   drinks that are in boxes that have cows [TS]

00:41:28   in them or whatever [TS]

00:41:29   re coffee right yeah but but i totally [TS]

00:41:32   buy that is that must be just as real as [TS]

00:41:34   as the things that's all that they show [TS]

00:41:35   the train from the outside sitting still [TS]

00:41:37   attracts who hasn't been in the train [TS]

00:41:38   that's like why are we not moving yeah [TS]

00:41:40   like your head is better now you're in [TS]

00:41:42   the snow [TS]

00:41:42   you're in the middle of nowhere in the [TS]

00:41:44   dark the train has lights it's as [TS]

00:41:46   on the inside it's shining light [TS]

00:41:47   something outside everyone in the car is [TS]

00:41:48   silent and the train is not moving and [TS]

00:41:50   how long are you gonna sit there and all [TS]

00:41:53   the while you're thinking just like how [TS]

00:41:55   late am I like when that time passes [TS]

00:41:57   when he's supposed to have been there is [TS]

00:41:58   going away from even thinking through [TS]

00:42:00   his journey yeah she weighed in a [TS]

00:42:02   certain point is like please just [TS]

00:42:03   anything tonight yeah yeah yeah he's [TS]

00:42:06   surprised when he sees her [TS]

00:42:07   yeah I had this push all the buttons i'm [TS]

00:42:09   somebody likes to be on time I've been [TS]

00:42:11   on stressful journey is like this trains [TS]

00:42:13   and planes and things like that [TS]

00:42:14   I i flew from California to Michigan to [TS]

00:42:17   see my girlfriend in high school and it [TS]

00:42:20   was exactly like this exactly like the [TS]

00:42:23   stress of the whole thing with the [TS]

00:42:25   anticipation and then and then you know [TS]

00:42:27   to be late like this then he's got a [TS]

00:42:29   whole other layer of feelings that are [TS]

00:42:31   like disemboweling the anticipation [TS]

00:42:33   feelings and there was just kind of [TS]

00:42:35   amazing but they do settle down i have [TS]

00:42:37   to say when they get to they get to get [TS]

00:42:40   to this point and and they calm down a [TS]

00:42:42   little bit and they did they haven't [TS]

00:42:44   shut down they do they do shut down the [TS]

00:42:46   station but at this point they haven't [TS]

00:42:47   quite yet bullshit she brought food we [TS]

00:42:49   brought food to his next he eats what [TS]

00:42:51   appears to be a puffball of some sort [TS]

00:42:55   but he's very hungry so he eats it think [TS]

00:42:57   it's rice [TS]

00:42:58   yeah yeah rice balls you got some little [TS]

00:43:00   octopus or squid in there like I you [TS]

00:43:02   know the the fascination for for [TS]

00:43:05   Japanese people that probably looks like [TS]

00:43:06   a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with [TS]

00:43:07   us but us all exotic look at the cute [TS]

00:43:09   with their little sort of like a dog toy [TS]

00:43:11   or something like that it was very large [TS]

00:43:14   and fluffy [TS]

00:43:16   I ever mentioned that he lost his letter [TS]

00:43:18   halfway through this journey into is he [TS]

00:43:19   right as the journey gets worse and [TS]

00:43:21   worse the weather the wind blows the [TS]

00:43:22   letter out of his hand he's just you [TS]

00:43:25   know he's he's a broken person and he [TS]

00:43:27   totally doesn't expect to see he's like [TS]

00:43:28   walking into defeat to say i I'm so late [TS]

00:43:31   i'm just going to go and then I don't [TS]

00:43:32   even know what his plan was but he [TS]

00:43:34   didn't expect to see here there and [TS]

00:43:35   there she is an area this is where you [TS]

00:43:36   got the little heating stove with the [TS]

00:43:38   the the pan of water on top of it acting [TS]

00:43:40   is like a humidifier for the room they [TS]

00:43:42   got me because there's the scene at the [TS]

00:43:44   beginning right where she feeds him [TS]

00:43:47   she's like oh it's probably not very [TS]

00:43:48   good we get the impression that maybe [TS]

00:43:51   it's the first time she's tried to put a [TS]

00:43:52   meal together or at least you know for [TS]

00:43:55   someone special and then at the end we [TS]

00:43:58   you know would we get back to [TS]

00:44:00   heard they're like saying something [TS]

00:44:02   about her fiance and you know make sure [TS]

00:44:05   you cook for him and I was like oh did [TS]

00:44:06   they get back together and no yeah cuz I [TS]

00:44:09   thought that they were they were [TS]

00:44:11   harkening back to that early arduous [TS]

00:44:13   journey but yeah this is because they [TS]

00:44:16   don't spend a lot of time showing you [TS]

00:44:17   character spaces or any part of the [TS]

00:44:19   characters are also the most of the time [TS]

00:44:20   looking at objects and scenery you know [TS]

00:44:22   it's difficult the last sequence of this [TS]

00:44:25   movie is difficult to track on first [TS]

00:44:27   viewing of who the characters involved [TS]

00:44:29   are because they don't name them and the [TS]

00:44:31   characters don't have conversations [TS]

00:44:32   face-to-face with each other but yeah [TS]

00:44:34   that's why this and the other one [TS]

00:44:35   repeated viewings help just to keep [TS]

00:44:37   track of the plot and i think that's [TS]

00:44:39   that's kind of the fault of the movie to [TS]

00:44:41   know for not being more clear because [TS]

00:44:43   you really have to establish things like [TS]

00:44:45   that before you can play off of them [TS]

00:44:47   were just kind of a shame but it's also [TS]

00:44:49   unfortunately a something that's typical [TS]

00:44:51   of anime we're not gonna spend a lot of [TS]

00:44:53   time identifying characters and people [TS]

00:44:55   are going to tend to look the same [TS]

00:44:56   especially in this with have time to [TS]

00:44:58   draw the character spaces there just an [TS]

00:44:59   empty blank ya head with hair on them [TS]

00:45:01   because I not where you're supposed to [TS]

00:45:03   be looking at or they will play all that [TS]

00:45:05   well they were not draw the face and [TS]

00:45:06   then all of a sudden draw the face with [TS]

00:45:07   eyes and it's like you know that the [TS]

00:45:08   face comes into being but most of the [TS]

00:45:11   time most of time looking at snow and [TS]

00:45:12   trees and listening to insects murmur [TS]

00:45:15   and light reflected off little metal [TS]

00:45:17   things are just fine with me so they get [TS]

00:45:19   their shoot out of the station station [TS]

00:45:21   closed down no more trains and they go [TS]

00:45:24   to like a shed in a field [TS]

00:45:28   yep well first things first they have [TS]

00:45:29   their kiss under the tree that you had [TS]

00:45:31   an awesome tree [TS]

00:45:32   yeah that got me too i got a little [TS]

00:45:35   weepy that momentous well I always watch [TS]

00:45:38   anime and wonder where the parents are [TS]

00:45:40   like aren't your parents worried about [TS]

00:45:42   you [TS]

00:45:43   yeah I kind of get the feeling like so [TS]

00:45:44   his his trip he spent a lot of time also [TS]

00:45:47   like planning this trip is all these [TS]

00:45:48   little diagrams and and her little [TS]

00:45:50   diagrams like where he's going to be in [TS]

00:45:51   when he's got this all planned out if he [TS]

00:45:53   said it was the first time going to [TS]

00:45:54   speak train station by himself so I feel [TS]

00:45:57   like he's of the age where he's allowed [TS]

00:45:58   to go on this long trip and his parents [TS]

00:45:59   understand that he's doing this I don't [TS]

00:46:03   know maybe some more permissive culture [TS]

00:46:05   to allow your twelve-year-old to travel [TS]

00:46:06   across the country to see his a his [TS]

00:46:09   friend from way back what I mean I don't [TS]

00:46:11   get the feeling that disobeying the [TS]

00:46:12   parents get the feeling that [TS]

00:46:13   greater allowed to do it was the [TS]

00:46:15   nineties you know everything anything [TS]

00:46:17   flew the boat [TS]

00:46:19   although it's also key that this happens [TS]

00:46:21   before cellphones become pervasive [TS]

00:46:22   because I should have called cult you [TS]

00:46:25   know it's all gonna be a little late or [TS]

00:46:26   you should go home or whatever here they [TS]

00:46:28   have the habit of action businesses just [TS]

00:46:29   before everyone had so I had I had those [TS]

00:46:32   moments in this where it was just like [TS]

00:46:35   how if only they could call and say but [TS]

00:46:37   how you can't also he goes back the next [TS]

00:46:40   morning so i also had that thought of [TS]

00:46:41   like it was this his grand plan was like [TS]

00:46:44   look I can just take the train that will [TS]

00:46:45   take a while but i can go out there and [TS]

00:46:47   then we can see each other and then I'll [TS]

00:46:48   just come back in the morning and will [TS]

00:46:49   be like you know he's moving he's moving [TS]

00:46:51   like the next day always just let this [TS]

00:46:53   is the last minute maybe so but they [TS]

00:46:56   spend time together under the blanket [TS]

00:46:57   and they are talking they talk all night [TS]

00:46:59   which I thought was adorable because I [TS]

00:47:01   guess they're they're young enough that [TS]

00:47:02   i don't know you you go all that way to [TS]

00:47:06   and find the boyfriend-girlfriend [TS]

00:47:08   essentially they kiss and then they go [TS]

00:47:10   to a shack with a talk on a toggle night [TS]

00:47:14   well the high from that first kiss can [TS]

00:47:15   carry you through the rest of the whole [TS]

00:47:17   night it's not like they you know they [TS]

00:47:18   don't that better need anything else [TS]

00:47:20   there it's gonna take all night for them [TS]

00:47:21   to come down from the kiss and so just [TS]

00:47:22   snuggling in the blank I thought that [TS]

00:47:24   was appropriate for the age and although [TS]

00:47:26   I'm not quite sure they didn't die from [TS]

00:47:27   exposure but apparently a very warm [TS]

00:47:29   blanket [TS]

00:47:29   yeah and and the shack is super [TS]

00:47:31   insulated so they say goodbye and he [TS]

00:47:34   goes off on the on uh on the train in [TS]

00:47:36   the morning and I before we get to the [TS]

00:47:39   the other segments i want to say the [TS]

00:47:41   last so he has a voice over here where [TS]

00:47:43   he talks about sort of his regret saying [TS]

00:47:45   goodbye to her and knowing that he's [TS]

00:47:46   gonna move away and so they're going to [TS]

00:47:48   be even further away from each other [TS]

00:47:49   than they are already and he uh one of [TS]

00:47:54   the things he says like the last thing [TS]

00:47:56   he basically says is i wanted to protect [TS]

00:47:58   her and I wrote this down with a large [TS]

00:48:02   WTF next to it because i didn't like [TS]

00:48:05   this line at all because of whatever [TS]

00:48:07   represents it is a it that is the best [TS]

00:48:10   thing you can think when you're leaving [TS]

00:48:12   her is what you want to be as her [TS]

00:48:14   protector and save her from the world [TS]

00:48:16   that is just that [TS]

00:48:17   yeah that made me angry because that is [TS]

00:48:20   kind of a stupid and sexist and awful so [TS]

00:48:23   I was in it took me out of it [TS]

00:48:25   I had the same feeling but actually have [TS]

00:48:27   being that feeling sort of helped me buy [TS]

00:48:29   into the next section because I cared [TS]

00:48:31   about him less at that point huh well so [TS]

00:48:34   like we this too is multiple levels of [TS]

00:48:37   this one is the japan is not really not [TS]

00:48:40   really lagging i would say behind most [TS]

00:48:43   of the rest of the world in terms of [TS]

00:48:44   their view of women's role in society [TS]

00:48:46   and that is reflected in the Arthur they [TS]

00:48:48   produce so that's definitely one angle [TS]

00:48:49   on second angle is the twelve-year-old [TS]

00:48:52   boys growing up in that culture are very [TS]

00:48:54   susceptible to it and I bet that is what [TS]

00:48:57   he would be thinking that if this boy [TS]

00:48:59   this time in this place but it does not [TS]

00:49:01   make him a sympathetic character from an [TS]

00:49:02   adult perspective best you can do is [TS]

00:49:05   understand i remember when i was young [TS]

00:49:07   and a young and stupid boy would seem [TS]

00:49:09   too many stories that put the wrong [TS]

00:49:10   ideas into his head about the [TS]

00:49:12   relationship between men and women but I [TS]

00:49:13   started for me it comes off as if the [TS]

00:49:15   artist and the movie think that is the [TS]

00:49:17   deepest and most passionate important [TS]

00:49:19   feeling you can have about a woman yeah [TS]

00:49:21   and not playing it as if this boy [TS]

00:49:24   doesn't is dumb and doesn't know the [TS]

00:49:25   ways of the world yet because that is so [TS]

00:49:27   typical way of thinking of that which is [TS]

00:49:29   it's the man's job to protect her and [TS]

00:49:31   it's like he wasn't I want to spend time [TS]

00:49:33   with her i want to you know I want to [TS]

00:49:35   help her [TS]

00:49:36   I want to be her friend and and and you [TS]

00:49:40   know be with her it was I want to [TS]

00:49:42   protect her [TS]

00:49:43   that was his well as possessiveness yes [TS]

00:49:45   exactly and I and I'm you know it's [TS]

00:49:49   difficult to walk that line because I [TS]

00:49:50   really feel like it in any in no matter [TS]

00:49:52   how enlightened the age i think that is [TS]

00:49:53   a feeling that boys have right at that [TS]

00:49:55   age especially when they have these [TS]

00:49:57   girls they don't quite understand this [TS]

00:49:58   sort of protective possessive feeling [TS]

00:50:01   but you're supposed to grow out of it [TS]

00:50:03   and the movie the movie did not then we [TS]

00:50:06   didn't give a perspective on that didn't [TS]

00:50:08   give an adult perspective on it just let [TS]

00:50:10   us soak in the boy's perspective on it [TS]

00:50:12   definitely seemed like we were supposed [TS]

00:50:13   to find that as profound and and make us [TS]

00:50:16   come draw closer to to the main [TS]

00:50:18   character instead of farther away so [TS]

00:50:20   story to is called cosmonaut but there [TS]

00:50:22   will be no space robots I assure you in [TS]

00:50:25   story to cosmic you don't know was on [TS]

00:50:26   the rocket earlier we see it we see a [TS]

00:50:29   shot of birds in the sky we get more [TS]

00:50:32   birds in the sky here this is a [TS]

00:50:33   recurring motif in this which I which I [TS]

00:50:35   like and also these spectacular the sky [TS]

00:50:38   at night is full of spectacular space [TS]

00:50:40   things that you can actually see in the [TS]

00:50:42   sky at night and that's another [TS]

00:50:43   stylistic thing about this movie that i [TS]

00:50:45   thought was nice and also harken back to [TS]

00:50:47   the short that we watched tono is older [TS]

00:50:50   he has a there's a girl who is crushing [TS]

00:50:54   on him named sumida she did they they [TS]

00:50:59   are on a southern island in japan so [TS]

00:51:02   this is what how so his uh so-so ackari [TS]

00:51:06   moved to the north to where it's very [TS]

00:51:08   wintry and then Tony moves to the south [TS]

00:51:12   to us a southern island in Japan where [TS]

00:51:15   it's a more tropical weather and there's [TS]

00:51:17   a space launch facility so we see a [TS]

00:51:20   rocket or spaceship basically towed [TS]

00:51:22   across the train tracks very [TS]

00:51:24   specifically says it's being towed at [TS]

00:51:26   five kilometers an hour [TS]

00:51:27   not to be confused with five centimeters [TS]

00:51:29   per second but i noticed that did [TS]

00:51:31   another rate of speed with a 5 sumita is [TS]

00:51:35   interesting [TS]

00:51:35   she's totally crushing on him they uh [TS]

00:51:39   they ride their scooters around she is a [TS]

00:51:43   surfer because this is a this is a [TS]

00:51:45   tropical ocean community so there's some [TS]

00:51:48   stuff where she's surfing which is cool [TS]

00:51:50   he meanwhile she's surfing what is tono [TS]

00:51:53   doing he's writing messages on his phone [TS]

00:51:55   to nobody and then deleting them that's [TS]

00:51:58   what he does relaxation shooting arrows [TS]

00:52:00   to that was interesting too because you [TS]

00:52:02   know at the beginning I completely [TS]

00:52:04   thought that he was still emailing acai [TS]

00:52:07   and that they still had this thing going [TS]

00:52:09   on and you know [TS]

00:52:11   akari is the reason that that I had to [TS]

00:52:13   feel bad for poor will accommodate [TS]

00:52:15   samhita but no nope he's not he's not [TS]

00:52:19   hanging with her anymore even in [TS]

00:52:20   cyberspace he's just write messages to [TS]

00:52:22   himself [TS]

00:52:22   yeah deleting she's so central to the [TS]

00:52:25   story even though our are supposed two [TS]

00:52:27   main characters for stories still hear [TS]

00:52:28   the story is all about the girl and how [TS]

00:52:32   she's not just dealing with her feelings [TS]

00:52:34   for him although that is though just [TS]

00:52:36   like she's growing up he's trying to [TS]

00:52:37   figure out they have all a subplot with [TS]

00:52:39   the career counseling and her sister and [TS]

00:52:41   I don't know her sister supposed to be a [TS]

00:52:43   cautionary tale of like what could [TS]

00:52:45   happen if you don't get your life [TS]

00:52:46   together and her just deciding what kind [TS]

00:52:47   of person she's gonna be I really like [TS]

00:52:49   with her all the scenes of her dealing [TS]

00:52:52   with surfing she doesn't like [TS]

00:52:54   let's fill out her to her job form of [TS]

00:52:56   like where she wants to go or what she [TS]

00:52:58   wants to be she won't take it which is [TS]

00:52:59   funny just like the last student I [TS]

00:53:01   thought that she talked to her guidance [TS]

00:53:02   counselor about it but she does survive [TS]

00:53:04   really like I really liked her I thought [TS]

00:53:06   that she was a really interesting [TS]

00:53:07   character and and as at erica's point I [TS]

00:53:09   was not in a position to really liked oh [TS]

00:53:11   no at this point so I really did like [TS]

00:53:13   her and I identified with her kind of [TS]

00:53:15   hopelessly crushing on him yeah that's [TS]

00:53:17   why I actually i loved this second story [TS]

00:53:19   probably as much as that as the first [TS]

00:53:21   part because it's just hit I think maybe [TS]

00:53:23   it hit home for me even more than the [TS]

00:53:25   first one because as a youngster I had [TS]

00:53:27   so many deep passionate unrequited [TS]

00:53:30   crushes and i think i think i feel like [TS]

00:53:34   i had way more experience with [TS]

00:53:35   unrequited love than I did with any [TS]

00:53:37   actual like popular relationships hell [TS]

00:53:39   yes [TS]

00:53:40   oh yeah so this really works for me and [TS]

00:53:42   I felt like it it ended so accurately [TS]

00:53:44   because you know she's crushing on him [TS]

00:53:46   for this whole time and eventually she [TS]

00:53:48   know as she sort of it comes to the end [TS]

00:53:50   of this phase in her life and grows up a [TS]

00:53:52   little bit and learns to surf she [TS]

00:53:54   realizes that he has he's never even [TS]

00:53:56   really looked at her and and you know it [TS]

00:53:58   she just needs to to kind of give up on [TS]

00:54:00   it and i remember that i remember this [TS]

00:54:02   just there's a moment where you come to [TS]

00:54:04   the realization that you don't need to [TS]

00:54:06   talk to that boy anymore you you don't [TS]

00:54:08   need to have a friend talk to him for [TS]

00:54:09   you you don't need to pass him a note or [TS]

00:54:11   have you know somebody else tell you [TS]

00:54:12   that that he's not he's not into you [TS]

00:54:15   there's there's this painful and maybe [TS]

00:54:17   somehow exquisite moment when you [TS]

00:54:19   realize that he's just never going to [TS]

00:54:21   love you and he'll never even really [TS]

00:54:23   look at you and and that doesn't mean [TS]

00:54:25   that you stopped loving him and crushing [TS]

00:54:27   on him but it means you stop trying and [TS]

00:54:30   then you grieve because there's nothing [TS]

00:54:32   else to do and that shot of her just [TS]

00:54:34   curled up on her mattress was [TS]

00:54:36   transferred and the grouper have been [TS]

00:54:40   there sister and I think the nicest part [TS]

00:54:43   of this also is even even though we're [TS]

00:54:45   not that into tono from the end of the [TS]

00:54:47   last one that he's nice sorry I'm family [TS]

00:54:49   night he is your like and he's he's not [TS]

00:54:52   like he's not toying with her [TS]

00:54:54   he's not he's not mean to her and that's [TS]

00:54:56   why i love me such a bad boy sees mean [TS]

00:54:58   like he's not obsessed with other girls [TS]

00:55:00   he's just in his own and his home [TS]

00:55:02   slightly particular not particularly [TS]

00:55:04   healthy world again sending texts [TS]

00:55:06   themselves or email [TS]

00:55:07   to himself but he's always nice and he [TS]

00:55:10   and you get the feeling that he realizes [TS]

00:55:11   that she's eventually he catches her [TS]

00:55:13   like waiting up for him after like [TS]

00:55:14   archery practice or whatever he knows [TS]

00:55:16   she's doing it but his like it's he's [TS]

00:55:20   not he's not going home and thinking [TS]

00:55:22   about her or the fact that he was there [TS]

00:55:23   or anything like that he's not going to [TS]

00:55:25   make the move hehe like when he sees her [TS]

00:55:27   crying he says you know what's wrong and [TS]

00:55:29   she says no no but he's not gonna he's [TS]

00:55:31   not gonna take it any further right he's [TS]

00:55:32   not going to say oh I know what this is [TS]

00:55:34   about it's just he's never gonna do that [TS]

00:55:36   I i speaking of the the way that this is [TS]

00:55:39   a this crush is portrayed actually i [TS]

00:55:41   think that i really like they're a [TS]

00:55:42   couple of scenes in here one where [TS]

00:55:44   they're riding on their scooters and she [TS]

00:55:46   gets to her house and and parks her [TS]

00:55:47   scooter and then he drives off [TS]

00:55:49   she's got that she got a dog she's got [TS]

00:55:51   like a little puppy which is adorable [TS]

00:55:53   too and uh but what I really like is [TS]

00:55:55   that then he rides off because he's [TS]

00:55:56   further down the road so he rides off [TS]

00:55:58   and she stands there waving at him long [TS]

00:56:00   after he is not like looking at her or [TS]

00:56:02   anything but she keeps waving and I [TS]

00:56:03   thought that was adorable [TS]

00:56:05   because that is like she's really into [TS]

00:56:07   him and he's just zooming off but she's [TS]

00:56:08   like no I'm gonna wait if I was a dog my [TS]

00:56:11   tail be wagging and then two minutes [TS]

00:56:13   later she's waving them with mixer as [TS]

00:56:14   you're with her you're wagging tail [TS]

00:56:16   yeah then there's the scene where her [TS]

00:56:18   scooter breaks and he says now we'll [TS]

00:56:20   walk and they walk and then he leaves [TS]

00:56:23   her he leaves are there and the dog [TS]

00:56:24   comes out and he just walks down the [TS]

00:56:25   road again and again she's waving [TS]

00:56:27   goodbye goodbye as he as he walks down [TS]

00:56:29   the road because he's that's that that's [TS]

00:56:31   their relationship right there [TS]

00:56:33   you mention the fact that he's he's [TS]

00:56:35   always unfeelingly nice to her in which [TS]

00:56:37   is true but in a way it almost makes it [TS]

00:56:39   a little bit worse but she says it's why [TS]

00:56:42   didn't exactly it's not sure [TS]

00:56:44   please please stop it would be easier if [TS]

00:56:46   you were like mean to me or you or I saw [TS]

00:56:48   that you are an unkind person you know [TS]

00:56:50   you're on [TS]

00:56:51   it's a lot easier when your crush is [TS]

00:56:53   revealed to be a jerk to other people [TS]

00:56:54   and I don't know what I'm not crushing [TS]

00:56:55   on you anymore but it but if your crush [TS]

00:56:57   is like quiet and seems a little sad and [TS]

00:57:00   is unfailingly nice to you that does not [TS]

00:57:02   help you deal with your crush it or if [TS]

00:57:04   you even just stopped like you know [TS]

00:57:06   riding home with her just yeah exactly [TS]

00:57:10   now I depart the parts that I really [TS]

00:57:12   that really resonated with me is uh so [TS]

00:57:14   she's they do all these things together [TS]

00:57:16   she waits for him after school they go [TS]

00:57:19   home school together her scooter breaks [TS]

00:57:20   down he tries to fix it they ride home [TS]

00:57:23   in the rain she sees the scooter stopped [TS]

00:57:25   on the side of the road he's on top of [TS]

00:57:26   the hill and so she goes up on the hill [TS]

00:57:28   to sit down with the kind of things that [TS]

00:57:30   you know she's obviously trying to be [TS]

00:57:31   where he isn't do things that he does [TS]

00:57:33   during this time she's you know crushing [TS]

00:57:36   on him and I'm thinking about him and [TS]

00:57:37   upset but all those scenes i am with the [TS]

00:57:40   the backgrounds in the nature and [TS]

00:57:41   everything in retrospect and again this [TS]

00:57:44   about it seems like a memory even though [TS]

00:57:46   you'll remember doing those things you [TS]

00:57:48   know I was there because he was there I [TS]

00:57:50   I you know we had this experience [TS]

00:57:52   together in the reason reason i was [TS]

00:57:53   saying there is because i wanted to walk [TS]

00:57:55   home with him or whatever going on all [TS]

00:57:58   around you is this this natural beauty [TS]

00:58:00   that sort of magnified by your you know [TS]

00:58:02   your your emotions and young hormones [TS]

00:58:04   and everything that when you look back [TS]

00:58:06   on it it's not so important that the [TS]

00:58:08   whole time you were there you're [TS]

00:58:09   crushing this person it's like it's like [TS]

00:58:11   you were soaking in this this beautiful [TS]

00:58:13   scenery in the wind and the grass and as [TS]

00:58:15   I don't know like for me I remember a [TS]

00:58:17   lot of the settings when these over [TS]

00:58:19   these emotions borrowers them the [TS]

00:58:20   emotions and the sort of the ended the [TS]

00:58:21   details of the people in the situation's [TS]

00:58:23   fade but i can put myself right back in [TS]

00:58:26   that spot sitting there like when [TS]

00:58:28   something dramatic was happening in your [TS]

00:58:30   world in your mind and you don't know [TS]

00:58:32   what was happening in the other person's [TS]

00:58:34   mind maybe nothing was happening there [TS]

00:58:35   but for you it was really important that [TS]

00:58:37   you were sitting on this Hill as the Sun [TS]

00:58:38   went down you know watching the birds [TS]

00:58:41   fly through the sky while you were [TS]

00:58:43   thinking this thing and you're just [TS]

00:58:44   sitting there quietly nothing was [TS]

00:58:45   actually happening and i think this [TS]

00:58:47   movie does a really good job of revoking [TS]

00:58:49   evoking that the fact that everything is [TS]

00:58:52   so heightened when you're in the [TS]

00:58:53   situation when all you're actually doing [TS]

00:58:55   is walking from place to place [TS]

00:58:58   not even talking or sitting on a hill or [TS]

00:59:00   just you know eventually later the big [TS]

00:59:03   climax when something big is about to [TS]

00:59:06   happen and a rocket takes off in the [TS]

00:59:07   background which is inappropriate thing [TS]

00:59:09   that they would be entirely like the [TS]

00:59:11   rocket might as well as taking off in [TS]

00:59:13   the background for like you spend like [TS]

00:59:14   the entire year two years or three years [TS]

00:59:16   walking home with this person and things [TS]

00:59:18   are gonna finally come to a head and [TS]

00:59:19   that's the sort of externality of [TS]

00:59:23   of what's going on inside I just this [TS]

00:59:24   section I think this is my that the [TS]

00:59:27   train sequence is something special i [TS]

00:59:28   think but this section is the most sort [TS]

00:59:31   of this middle section is the most [TS]

00:59:33   evocative for me of sort of what it's [TS]

00:59:36   like to be in that's too especially [TS]

00:59:38   since it comes to women like that I a [TS]

00:59:40   fairly satisfying and where it ends in a [TS]

00:59:43   realistic way and and it's heartbreaking [TS]

00:59:47   yeah in my headcanon i like to think [TS]

00:59:51   that that he has moments you know when [TS]

00:59:53   we're not seeing him here he has moments [TS]

00:59:55   where you know kids he's always in his [TS]

00:59:56   head so much that he thinks about her [TS]

00:59:58   and in [TS]

00:59:58   and in [TS]

01:00:00   wishes that he could could feel the same [TS]

01:00:02   way about her that he felt about a Kauri [TS]

01:00:05   and he just can't quite get to that same [TS]

01:00:08   level of you know those those heights of [TS]

01:00:10   emotion and therefore doesn't even [TS]

01:00:12   really give it a chance when she's [TS]

01:00:14   around because he feels like that's what [TS]

01:00:17   he's shooting for is you know that that [TS]

01:00:19   that same feeling which he just doesn't [TS]

01:00:21   have so he's just kind of lost in his [TS]

01:00:24   own thoughts when when she's around [TS]

01:00:25   because she just just doesn't quite [TS]

01:00:27   quite do it form this resonates for me [TS]

01:00:29   because I was that girl laying I the [TS]

01:00:34   crushes that like I didn't have a [TS]

01:00:35   boyfriend in high school I didn't have [TS]

01:00:37   like like all of the stuff that seems to [TS]

01:00:40   be very similar to her [TS]

01:00:42   I mean that was that was really me and [TS]

01:00:45   even like the the in her internal [TS]

01:00:47   monologue about like if I was a puppy [TS]

01:00:50   and and then she's like why are you so [TS]

01:00:52   weird i'm so weird why am i weird and [TS]

01:00:55   that's still like me now you know like [TS]

01:00:58   why do I have to be so weird and so I [TS]

01:01:01   mean even even now alene therapist if [TS]

01:01:05   it's a lot a lot [TS]

01:01:07   I like they're more characters in this [TS]

01:01:09   section like she's got a family she's [TS]

01:01:10   got a big sister she's got a mom she's [TS]

01:01:12   right all we don't really see his [TS]

01:01:14   feelings for anything like her world is [TS]

01:01:16   more fleshed out here and the green [TS]

01:01:17   hawks and they all they all know who her [TS]

01:01:19   crushes right in the discuss things and [TS]

01:01:21   it's just you know like it you get the [TS]

01:01:23   more feeling for like a school year or [TS]

01:01:25   two is taking place in like the day [TS]

01:01:27   there's a little society in the school [TS]

01:01:29   and they have their own circles and you [TS]

01:01:30   still get definitely a feeling that that [TS]

01:01:33   what's-his-name tano i can remember [TS]

01:01:35   asking me that are too cocky [TS]

01:01:37   yeah his his head he's he's not dealing [TS]

01:01:41   well with this transition to adulthood [TS]

01:01:43   as well see in the final section that he [TS]

01:01:45   did you know he he goes off in a pretty [TS]

01:01:47   bad direction here he can't get over a [TS]

01:01:49   Kauri and he's not he's not moving on [TS]

01:01:52   with his life in a particularly healthy [TS]

01:01:53   way where she we feel like it's going [TS]

01:01:55   through she seems like it's a little bit [TS]

01:01:57   younger and she's going through all kind [TS]

01:01:58   of the same things you go through that [TS]

01:01:59   age but that you know as as shown [TS]

01:02:02   through her i think the surfing is sort [TS]

01:02:03   of like you know showing her her [TS]

01:02:05   development in the species through sort [TS]

01:02:07   of she had caught waves before and she [TS]

01:02:09   was sort of thrown off kilter by what [TS]

01:02:11   were we [TS]

01:02:11   imagine to be her first crush and like [TS]

01:02:13   puberty and all that and she can't [TS]

01:02:15   select the broomstick all over again she [TS]

01:02:16   can help out around the surfboard by the [TS]

01:02:18   end of it from key that is by the end of [TS]

01:02:21   it she gets up on the surfboard again [TS]

01:02:23   it's like she's coming out of it like [TS]

01:02:24   she just doesn't quite know what she's [TS]

01:02:25   going to do with her life but she feels [TS]

01:02:27   encouraged by the fact that she's [TS]

01:02:29   getting a handle on this is these were [TS]

01:02:30   some very strong feelings just very [TS]

01:02:31   difficult situations but she's growing [TS]

01:02:34   feel like she's gonna be okay right [TS]

01:02:35   that's what that's what we're left with [TS]

01:02:36   that coming out of the segments that she [TS]

01:02:38   was crushed but that being crushes [TS]

01:02:39   something we all have to go through at [TS]

01:02:42   least once and it seems like this is [TS]

01:02:43   this is going to be the end of the world [TS]

01:02:45   but really we feel like she's got a good [TS]

01:02:47   head on her shoulders a good support [TS]

01:02:48   system and she will she will do well [TS]

01:02:50   even if nobody else does [TS]

01:02:52   yeah when she realizes that he's not [TS]

01:02:56   that that he's not for her what she says [TS]

01:02:58   is he's always looking past me at [TS]

01:03:00   something far beyond like oh that oh no [TS]

01:03:03   he's always thinking about something [TS]

01:03:04   else [TS]

01:03:05   he's a disconnected from the world a [TS]

01:03:06   little bit we move ahead into story [TS]

01:03:09   number 35 centimeters per second [TS]

01:03:11   tono is now an adult ackari sort of well [TS]

01:03:16   I mean that he's thrown out he's figure [TS]

01:03:18   museum are either he's adults aged shts [TS]

01:03:22   into a group of what appears to be an [TS]

01:03:24   adult shape [TS]

01:03:25   akari his friend from cherry blossom is [TS]

01:03:29   getting married as we learned in [TS]

01:03:30   dialogue where she's talking about that [TS]

01:03:32   she's getting married and she's saying [TS]

01:03:33   about her parents and i'll see you at [TS]

01:03:35   the wedding and all this stuff and [TS]

01:03:36   including uh and then there's a lot of [TS]

01:03:40   voice over here including a an [TS]

01:03:43   interesting line which was I doubt our [TS]

01:03:45   hearts got closer by a centimeter that i [TS]

01:03:47   wrote down like go more themes are [TS]

01:03:50   happening but but oh no is in bad shape [TS]

01:03:54   he says I've wanted to move on but you [TS]

01:03:57   do it grasp something out of my reach my [TS]

01:03:59   heart was withering he says at one point [TS]

01:04:01   at which point i wrote down he has been [TS]

01:04:03   crushed by the man he goes into work is [TS]

01:04:05   a computer it's something good job is [TS]

01:04:07   like writing software on a big fancy Mac [TS]

01:04:09   he's got a cinema display here really [TS]

01:04:11   get out on him but he's but he is hard [TS]

01:04:13   as whether John he will and he goes you [TS]

01:04:15   know how we could be unhappy because [TS]

01:04:16   when he goes to the the magazine shop to [TS]

01:04:18   the newsstand the magazine it's in front [TS]

01:04:20   of him is for windows vasta which was a [TS]

01:04:23   very intense [TS]

01:04:24   very similar edition of Windows Windows [TS]

01:04:26   vasta it was disliked by most Windows [TS]

01:04:29   users it we see him he lives in [TS]

01:04:30   apartment by himself and it's like one [TS]

01:04:32   of those sad small dark Japanese [TS]

01:04:34   apartments and he's got he's got all his [TS]

01:04:36   possessions shoved into this one tiny [TS]

01:04:38   room it's got a chick crashing there [TS]

01:04:41   yeah totally batching it we can we see [TS]

01:04:44   him mostly standing silently not looking [TS]

01:04:46   at other people with his head down we [TS]

01:04:48   don't see him talking and hanging out [TS]

01:04:49   with coworkers you see him having to get [TS]

01:04:51   dressed up with the tie that's the heart [TS]

01:04:52   huh mr. white I don't know your life is [TS]

01:04:55   going terribly wrong he's smoking on his [TS]

01:04:56   balcony by himself yeah it's hard with [TS]

01:04:58   heard what happened and i think i think [TS]

01:05:00   this is a like this this happens this is [TS]

01:05:03   a depiction we've seen a lot of ways [TS]

01:05:04   where you know you you leave your high [TS]

01:05:07   school or college behind where you have [TS]

01:05:08   a built-in social group if you haven't [TS]

01:05:10   sort of paired up or come with a stable [TS]

01:05:12   group of friends or go off our from [TS]

01:05:13   everybody else and get a job just the [TS]

01:05:15   grind of like got to get an apartment [TS]

01:05:17   got to get my food got to clean my [TS]

01:05:18   clothes got to go to my job got to come [TS]

01:05:20   home if you don't make an effort to meet [TS]

01:05:23   and find and see other people you will [TS]

01:05:24   find yourself and if you're a certain [TS]

01:05:25   kind of person you will find yourself [TS]

01:05:26   living alone going to work coming home [TS]

01:05:30   and just slowly sinking into yourself [TS]

01:05:33   and I think they don't make clear he [TS]

01:05:34   said he has had this is that after the [TS]

01:05:37   determination of a three-year [TS]

01:05:38   relationship with another girl who is [TS]

01:05:40   not a car and who is not the surfer girl [TS]

01:05:42   right who we barely see because they're [TS]

01:05:45   no longer in a relationship she's the [TS]

01:05:46   one who drops a little email bomb on him [TS]

01:05:48   about the you know we said we send all [TS]

01:05:50   these e-mails back and forth doesn't [TS]

01:05:51   feel like we got any closer because you [TS]

01:05:53   know he's obviously still completely [TS]

01:05:54   closed off and that wasn't going to work [TS]

01:05:56   out but even that which was probably the [TS]

01:05:58   one person he took talk to and if I [TS]

01:05:59   didn't even that is over so he's he's [TS]

01:06:02   going downhill [TS]

01:06:03   yeah yeah it's a bad bad scene he we get [TS]

01:06:06   the i'm dreaming of being 13 and a [TS]

01:06:08   filled with snow someday we watch the [TS]

01:06:10   cherry blossoms again and we discovered [TS]

01:06:12   there's sort of these two voiceovers [TS]

01:06:14   that are happening at this point in [TS]

01:06:16   their lives both of the characters are [TS]

01:06:18   sort of thinking back to those moments [TS]

01:06:20   from when they were young and together [TS]

01:06:23   and in that field of snow and on that [TS]

01:06:25   trip and back at school and all of those [TS]

01:06:27   things that that is going on here and at [TS]

01:06:33   the very beginning of this we get a [TS]

01:06:35   glimpse of of [TS]

01:06:36   it turns out is the two of them kind of [TS]

01:06:38   crossing paths with one one another as [TS]

01:06:40   they're crossing over the train tracks [TS]

01:06:41   it's the same train tracks that we saw [TS]

01:06:43   at the very beginning with the with the [TS]

01:06:45   the cherry blossoms following that will [TS]

01:06:47   come back they'll be replayed again at [TS]

01:06:49   the very end in the last shot of the [TS]

01:06:51   film however as we get this and this is [TS]

01:06:54   a short fairly short segment as we get [TS]

01:06:56   this we get the sense of sort of like [TS]

01:06:58   it's not necessarily regret [TS]

01:07:01   yeah maybe maybe it's tension with that [TS]

01:07:03   but it's also just like this [TS]

01:07:04   reminiscence of nostalgia for this this [TS]

01:07:06   time in their lives that has passed and [TS]

01:07:08   she's gonna move on with her life and [TS]

01:07:10   get married and he's having difficulty [TS]

01:07:12   in his life but you know what would be [TS]

01:07:15   good right about now a song montage [TS]

01:07:19   no I disagree disagree full-hearted [TS]

01:07:22   fortunately we get one that is not it is [TS]

01:07:25   a bombastic a song and a montage of [TS]

01:07:30   things that we've already seen in this [TS]

01:07:32   movie that's only 60 minutes long [TS]

01:07:35   well they do add is not all repeats the [TS]

01:07:36   same as what i think they cut too fast [TS]

01:07:38   here for you to see what's another [TS]

01:07:39   forward if you were to look at [TS]

01:07:41   individually the scenes they do add [TS]

01:07:43   scenes that add information to the story [TS]

01:07:45   but it's mostly cut to the beat of the [TS]

01:07:46   music so it goes by too fast for sale by [TS]

01:07:49   voices evidence are also ends on a song [TS]

01:07:52   which i think works really well there ya [TS]

01:07:53   go that side yeah there it does not work [TS]

01:07:56   well here it seems jarring and out of [TS]

01:07:59   completely out of context of the film it [TS]

01:08:01   it has the same problem both places [TS]

01:08:03   ended the the cutting and the action [TS]

01:08:05   happens so fast to keep pace with the [TS]

01:08:07   song that on first viewing it's very [TS]

01:08:09   difficult even tell what the heck is [TS]

01:08:10   going on in this one obviously there's [TS]

01:08:12   not much going on I don't mind the song [TS]

01:08:15   here I like the fact that it that is I [TS]

01:08:18   mean that I feel like the entire movie [TS]

01:08:20   this part was slow and they built this [TS]

01:08:22   but I feel like the ramp onto the song [TS]

01:08:24   was too abrupt home and especially if [TS]

01:08:28   you can't understand the lyrics which we [TS]

01:08:29   can't you have to read song subtitle [TS]

01:08:31   lyrics while the fashion flash million [TS]

01:08:33   scenes in front of you it was a [TS]

01:08:35   difficult way to to bring this to a head [TS]

01:08:38   but again I felt like they were there on [TS]

01:08:40   the third story they were near the end [TS]

01:08:41   they had to get to the conclusion that [TS]

01:08:43   they wanted to get to and [TS]

01:08:45   I'm a sucker for music videos i like [TS]

01:08:47   when they do musical montage is in [TS]

01:08:48   almost anything even if i can't [TS]

01:08:50   understand what the song is so even [TS]

01:08:53   though I think we'd better invoices just [TS]

01:08:55   start mind at that much in this I just [TS]

01:08:57   feel like it's it it doesn't it doesn't [TS]

01:08:58   it doesn't flow smoothly from the movie [TS]

01:09:01   into the song it feels like there was [TS]

01:09:03   the movie and then there comes a point [TS]

01:09:05   and this thing was pasted into the end [TS]

01:09:07   of a missense again in the middle [TS]

01:09:08   yeah see I didn't have any problem with [TS]

01:09:10   that but i think because I also like the [TS]

01:09:13   musical montage thing in general and see [TS]

01:09:16   that it's enough an anime that I don't [TS]

01:09:18   mind it so I didn't feel like that was [TS]

01:09:20   during at all I just hated this song [TS]

01:09:22   with a fiery passion [TS]

01:09:26   none [TS]

01:09:27   [Music] [TS]

01:09:29   the way machine more than email naive me [TS]

01:09:34   nobody died he said [TS]

01:09:36   [Music] [TS]

01:09:40   so if it had been a different song a [TS]

01:09:42   better song i think i would have [TS]

01:09:43   forgiven a lot and probably would have [TS]

01:09:45   ended quite enjoyed it because I i do [TS]

01:09:48   agree that it was a little bit on the [TS]

01:09:49   fast side but i was i was still [TS]

01:09:51   following it okay and you know I was [TS]

01:09:54   slightly confused about what happened [TS]

01:09:55   but was able to kind of piece it [TS]

01:09:57   together and figure it out i just could [TS]

01:09:59   not stand the the sound of the guys [TS]

01:10:02   voice yeah and it wasn't it was not like [TS]

01:10:04   a smooth melodic sweeping song i think [TS]

01:10:07   it was supposed to be emotional and it [TS]

01:10:09   was just it just did not work on any [TS]

01:10:11   level but then when it ended the actual [TS]

01:10:13   music that was over the closing credits [TS]

01:10:14   was beautiful and I was like okay you [TS]

01:10:17   want me over again [TS]

01:10:18   yeah it really was it reminded me of a [TS]

01:10:20   bud light commercial ave and it's a [TS]

01:10:22   shame because this movie is so beautiful [TS]

01:10:23   however i did like the last two shots of [TS]

01:10:26   the montage where it settles down a [TS]

01:10:28   little bit before it hits the credits [TS]

01:10:29   and pretty song over the credits which [TS]

01:10:31   is we see the two birds again [TS]

01:10:32   mhm huh and if we see that seemed again [TS]

01:10:36   at the railroad track that we saw that [TS]

01:10:38   is a replay of the first scene and also [TS]

01:10:40   the first thing of this where they kind [TS]

01:10:42   of brush against each other and look [TS]

01:10:46   back from across the train tracks and [TS]

01:10:47   just as about their as they're about to [TS]

01:10:49   turn and lock eyes the train goes by and [TS]

01:10:52   it goes by free very long time yeah [TS]

01:10:56   that's one of my favorite bits because i [TS]

01:10:58   feel like if the music by that point has [TS]

01:11:00   won me over because the music is still [TS]

01:11:01   kind of going to this instrumental that [TS]

01:11:03   point and the trains are gone by and and [TS]

01:11:05   the trains are going and they're going [TS]

01:11:07   and they're growing and then when you [TS]

01:11:08   think the trains gonna actually the [TS]

01:11:09   train the opposite direction starts [TS]

01:11:11   coming and it's going it's going it's [TS]

01:11:13   going it's like and it's entirely like i [TS]

01:11:15   can't i can't make the trains you know I [TS]

01:11:16   mean that some trains to take a long [TS]

01:11:17   time to buy so i wasn't i was totally [TS]

01:11:20   bought in by that point of the song [TS]

01:11:22   starts abruptly and and cuts very fast [TS]

01:11:25   yeah and also by the way the melody of [TS]

01:11:27   this song is we've throughout the entire [TS]

01:11:29   movie like it's sort of you know a motif [TS]

01:11:31   going through music like it's it's like [TS]

01:11:34   I think they're sturdy bones they're the [TS]

01:11:35   guys voice is very jarring I i will give [TS]

01:11:37   you that but anyway I think I like the [TS]

01:11:39   song better than you guys did and butter [TS]

01:11:41   you did at that butt and like I said by [TS]

01:11:44   the time those trains start flying by [TS]

01:11:45   and things are fading down [TS]

01:11:47   I'm on board again yeah and it's I i [TS]

01:11:49   think it's a beautiful bittersweet kind [TS]

01:11:51   of ending because of course the trains [TS]

01:11:52   finally do part and he's still looking [TS]

01:11:54   and she is gone and he and the the the [TS]

01:12:00   arms come up on the on the guards and [TS]

01:12:03   you said he's looking he's facing toward [TS]

01:12:06   where she was and you see him turn [TS]

01:12:09   around to go back the other direction [TS]

01:12:11   and walk away and that's the end and if [TS]

01:12:15   it's a very nice moment sad but he's got [TS]

01:12:17   a little smile on his face as he turns [TS]

01:12:20   like that he is like but I mean so this [TS]

01:12:22   bending it also ambiguous but i think [TS]

01:12:24   what they're leading you towards is that [TS]

01:12:25   he's kind of figured out the same thing [TS]

01:12:27   that the surfer figured out so go figure [TS]

01:12:30   it out and that like all right I see how [TS]

01:12:33   this is you know because he finally had [TS]

01:12:35   his like moment of contact or whether he [TS]

01:12:37   imagined or not whether it was actually [TS]

01:12:39   her not or whatever that he even took [TS]

01:12:43   them however many years in this but this [TS]

01:12:44   is you know sometimes takes people a [TS]

01:12:46   long time to get over this [TS]

01:12:47   he's come around and realized he doesn't [TS]

01:12:50   know the shoes on his know she's engaged [TS]

01:12:52   to be married I like they avoided all [TS]

01:12:53   that drama she's going to be married and [TS]

01:12:55   who should like nope nope nope she's not [TS]

01:12:57   you're never going to speak to her again [TS]

01:12:59   you're probably never gonna see her [TS]

01:13:00   again whether you saw her on those train [TS]

01:13:02   tracks or not it doesn't matter and so [TS]

01:13:05   that I feel like he's saying to himself [TS]

01:13:06   was she even there [TS]

01:13:07   does it even matter and so he's got the [TS]

01:13:09   little tiny smile and the whole showing [TS]

01:13:11   his footsteps turning away and walking [TS]

01:13:12   on is that he's finally moving on with [TS]

01:13:14   his life [TS]

01:13:15   you get the the train going in between [TS]

01:13:17   them is almost like just the physical [TS]

01:13:19   severing of that tie between the two of [TS]

01:13:22   them and i think that's that's when he [TS]

01:13:23   gets it and you know it's symbolic and [TS]

01:13:26   hit him for a guy who's been in his head [TS]

01:13:29   so deeply for all these years he really [TS]

01:13:31   needs something that's that kind of hit [TS]

01:13:33   you over the head some bond over the [TS]

01:13:34   wires in one direction and also run them [TS]

01:13:37   over in the other direction or they cut [TS]

01:13:38   yet keep going keep going on [TS]

01:13:40   let Iran and the parallel story of the [TS]

01:13:42   parallel reminiscing of them both [TS]

01:13:44   remembering that same time I thought [TS]

01:13:47   that was nice because she's remembering [TS]

01:13:49   it the way you remember you find an old [TS]

01:13:51   letter from like middle school and you [TS]

01:13:53   look at like we're not so many of these [TS]

01:13:55   movies are some of these things you [TS]

01:13:56   would find it was like but her husband [TS]

01:13:58   is terrible right but she's not really [TS]

01:14:00   happy right now [TS]

01:14:01   her husband is probably very nice and [TS]

01:14:02   our soon-to-be husband and she's very [TS]

01:14:04   happy and right is nothing wrong in her [TS]

01:14:06   life like it's not it's not she's not [TS]

01:14:08   gonna go back to be like and so she's [TS]

01:14:10   been missing finally and look at this [TS]

01:14:12   thing and management and he's [TS]

01:14:13   reminiscing not bit early but still like [TS]

01:14:16   longingly and they're both telling the [TS]

01:14:18   same story but it's two very different [TS]

01:14:20   views in the same thing and it takes our [TS]

01:14:21   train tracks running over the giant [TS]

01:14:23   emotional and vocal cord that's [TS]

01:14:25   connecting him to his past at the end of [TS]

01:14:26   the movie to disconnect them and again [TS]

01:14:28   like voices in Star I think this movie [TS]

01:14:31   whether it's realistic or not that are [TS]

01:14:33   emotionally healthy to hold on to [TS]

01:14:34   something that long [TS]

01:14:35   it's getting in touch with the idea that [TS]

01:14:37   when you have the when when you're in [TS]

01:14:41   the midst of those relationships they [TS]

01:14:43   get a hundred percent seems like when [TS]

01:14:45   I'm 40 I was still be crying about this [TS]

01:14:46   right like it doesn't matter how old I [TS]

01:14:49   get I will never forget you I will love [TS]

01:14:51   you forever this is this is it because [TS]

01:14:53   that's how it feels and so these stories [TS]

01:14:55   can't if they realistically play that [TS]

01:14:57   becomes pathetic for adults to be like [TS]

01:14:59   that but it stretch the stretch reality [TS]

01:15:00   a little bit different look kids [TS]

01:15:02   understand you and you you've been in [TS]

01:15:05   this situation it seems like it's never [TS]

01:15:06   going to end [TS]

01:15:07   but it really will but I know when [TS]

01:15:08   you're in it feels like it wants all the [TS]

01:15:10   characters are like you know like at the [TS]

01:15:12   end of all the stories like I will never [TS]

01:15:13   forget this is the most important thing [TS]

01:15:15   in my life nothing will ever change but [TS]

01:15:17   it gets better and then you have the [TS]

01:15:19   beautiful beautiful song over the [TS]

01:15:21   closing credits which actually reminded [TS]

01:15:23   me very much of a song called [TS]

01:15:25   recessional by Vienna tank which then I [TS]

01:15:28   had listened to it for a while so listen [TS]

01:15:30   to it and realized that the lyrics of [TS]

01:15:31   that song are actually kind of eerily [TS]

01:15:33   similar to the themes of these movies [TS]

01:15:35   and we down to like mentioning [TS]

01:15:37   fluorescent light bulbs in like a train [TS]

01:15:40   station or an airport or something and [TS]

01:15:42   you know specific moments with somebody [TS]

01:15:44   being so pure just like whoa that's kind [TS]

01:15:46   of creepy [TS]

01:15:47   so John what was really interesting to [TS]

01:15:49   me about this one is that again so much [TS]

01:15:52   other than the miyazaki so much of the [TS]

01:15:54   anime that I've seen has been in you [TS]

01:15:56   know science fiction kind of terms [TS]

01:15:57   including voices of a distant star and [TS]

01:15:59   then we get 25 centimeters per second [TS]

01:16:01   and it's this other kind and I was [TS]

01:16:03   really happy that they were no aliens [TS]

01:16:05   and only one spaceship and only seen in [TS]

01:16:07   the distance and on train tracks and I [TS]

01:16:10   and I thought it was beautiful and like [TS]

01:16:12   I said I i thought the detail work while [TS]

01:16:16   very different from some of the [TS]

01:16:17   beautiful stuff that I see and say [TS]

01:16:19   miyazaki movies was you know it also had [TS]

01:16:23   things in common with that in in in [TS]

01:16:25   taking the time to show these objects [TS]

01:16:27   and lingering on them and so yeah I [TS]

01:16:30   thought this I thought five centimeters [TS]

01:16:32   per second was was kind of great real i [TS]

01:16:35   really thought it was [TS]

01:16:35   yeah I did too one of the reasons I left [TS]

01:16:38   out a place promised in our early days [TS]

01:16:40   which is the third attempt to tell to [TS]

01:16:43   touch on the same themes let's say not [TS]

01:16:45   not make the same movie is that I feel [TS]

01:16:47   like that is the most conventional [TS]

01:16:49   recommend watching it but I feel like [TS]

01:16:52   you've got the best like this you got [TS]

01:16:54   the raw first weird little voices of a [TS]

01:16:57   distant star and you have this which is [TS]

01:16:59   that the later one which i think is more [TS]

01:17:02   mature and sophisticated retelling of [TS]

01:17:03   the same thing and place promise has [TS]

01:17:06   much more of the trappings of a [TS]

01:17:08   traditional movie period like there's [TS]

01:17:09   actual sort of this sort of actually a [TS]

01:17:11   plot there's a unexplained weird anime [TS]

01:17:13   thing that goes on with aliens or maybe [TS]

01:17:16   not aliens or whatever that's not [TS]

01:17:18   important and not explain but there are [TS]

01:17:20   you know flying craft and their [TS]

01:17:21   relationships and there's like dialogue [TS]

01:17:23   and people and do things and have [TS]

01:17:24   feelings much more so like it you could [TS]

01:17:27   meet probably make that into a hollywood [TS]

01:17:29   movie in some reasonable way that [TS]

01:17:31   touches on all sorts of the same feat [TS]

01:17:33   themes and I feel like that other stuff [TS]

01:17:35   and and place for most early days gets [TS]

01:17:38   in the way like it is not it's not like [TS]

01:17:41   sort of like voices of just are two [TS]

01:17:44   things so much together in a pleasing [TS]

01:17:45   way this is crazy mashup and it's not [TS]

01:17:47   five centimeters per second [TS]

01:17:49   where they cut out everything except for [TS]

01:17:50   the heart whether they're trying to tell [TS]

01:17:51   that is sort of like an uncomfortable [TS]

01:17:53   mix but if you watch all three of those [TS]

01:17:55   things i think at that point you start [TS]

01:17:57   to get a feel for makoto shinkai and I [TS]

01:18:00   think he is a hopeless romantic because [TS]

01:18:02   you're taking make to make three movies [TS]

01:18:05   like that and I [TS]

01:18:07   and it was kind of I you know coming at [TS]

01:18:09   the same thing from different angles and [TS]

01:18:11   having a sort of different resolutions [TS]

01:18:13   at the end but just you know the what [TS]

01:18:15   attracts me to this and acetone economy [TS]

01:18:16   is occupied matter is like not so much [TS]

01:18:18   the stories that tell police they can be [TS]

01:18:20   about whatever you want it to be about [TS]

01:18:21   but the way they tell them and it it it [TS]

01:18:25   it speaks the truth to me that you don't [TS]

01:18:28   see in most conventional movies because [TS]

01:18:30   again i think animation can get away [TS]

01:18:32   with really weird stuff like when you [TS]

01:18:34   make a live-action movie that has [TS]

01:18:35   lingering shots of like a telephone wire [TS]

01:18:37   bisecting the moon people think oh [TS]

01:18:39   that's what i was already movies as you [TS]

01:18:41   know whatever but with these movies [TS]

01:18:43   somehow somehow gets a pass and and and [TS]

01:18:46   I and I do like the space stuff you said [TS]

01:18:48   there's only one rocket ship this thing [TS]

01:18:49   I think it's important that to have that [TS]

01:18:52   I think it's important to have heavy [TS]

01:18:53   space machinery moving through these [TS]

01:18:55   people's lives and and firing off at [TS]

01:18:58   pivotal moments yeah and constant [TS]

01:19:00   looking up at the stars all of which are [TS]

01:19:01   green and purple like you're looking [TS]

01:19:02   through like Hubble telescope on acid [TS]

01:19:05   and opening sequences have giant looming [TS]

01:19:07   planets that somehow that not just [TS]

01:19:10   hyper-real that's like that's exactly [TS]

01:19:11   what it's like to be this age there is a [TS]

01:19:13   giant living plan and purple stars and a [TS]

01:19:15   rocket ship the fires off behind you [TS]

01:19:16   not really but there might as well be [TS]

01:19:18   verdicts on this now that you've seen it [TS]

01:19:20   all [TS]

01:19:21   I too enthusiastic thumbs up as long as [TS]

01:19:24   I completely forget about that last song [TS]

01:19:25   which is quite a blemish but it will [TS]

01:19:28   grow on you'll see like a fungus I had [TS]

01:19:30   managed to I had managed to forget about [TS]

01:19:33   it until we started talking about it at [TS]

01:19:34   all my memories where we're very happy [TS]

01:19:36   so I'm sure 10 minutes after we stopped [TS]

01:19:39   recording i'm going to forget it again [TS]

01:19:41   and I'm going to just continue to just [TS]

01:19:43   low five centimeters per second and i [TS]

01:19:45   also i quite liked voices of a distant [TS]

01:19:47   distant star but not not to the same [TS]

01:19:49   degree pretty much the same especially I [TS]

01:19:52   am anxious to watch five minutes the may [TS]

01:19:55   just watch 5 centimeters a second again [TS]

01:19:57   just to watch it because it's just [TS]

01:20:00   stunning the the artwork is just [TS]

01:20:03   absolutely beautiful and i found myself [TS]

01:20:04   i'm having to go back in like positive [TS]

01:20:08   and go back and read the subtitles one [TS]

01:20:09   because they pass kind of quickly but [TS]

01:20:11   secondly i was just watching things and [TS]

01:20:14   not paying attention to what was being [TS]

01:20:16   said because it was just it was it was [TS]

01:20:18   gorgeous [TS]

01:20:19   so [TS]

01:20:19   so I really enjoyed both alright John [TS]

01:20:22   how do we do we pass pretty well I think [TS]

01:20:24   like that and I don't know if I would [TS]

01:20:27   never think about things we watching [TS]

01:20:29   like we watching too many things that [TS]

01:20:30   are the same because it's like are we [TS]

01:20:32   doing the equivalent of playing game [TS]

01:20:33   after game is exactly like journey [TS]

01:20:35   because it's kind of like the type of [TS]

01:20:36   things that i like but I feel like we're [TS]

01:20:37   getting a reasonable spread here even if [TS]

01:20:40   we're mostly avoiding like the actual [TS]

01:20:43   right up the middle traditional like [TS]

01:20:45   when you know now watching like full [TS]

01:20:47   metal panic or something right which is [TS]

01:20:48   like conventional and all the the [TS]

01:20:50   conventional way so i'm not totally [TS]

01:20:52   saying that's out of the question the [TS]

01:20:54   future but this is the kind of movies [TS]

01:20:56   that I like these are the kind of [TS]

01:20:57   directors that I like all these movies [TS]

01:20:59   I've seen so many times and it and [TS]

01:21:02   likely was saying i do the opposite [TS]

01:21:04   where I find that I have to read the [TS]

01:21:06   subtitles and the first few yards and [TS]

01:21:07   then in the the subsequent many many [TS]

01:21:09   viewings when I know everything everyone [TS]

01:21:11   is going to say i spent all time while [TS]

01:21:13   looking at the frames and watching the [TS]

01:21:14   movie like trying to watch the movie as [TS]

01:21:16   if I understand what they're saying but [TS]

01:21:18   only because I've member is offline to [TS]

01:21:19   that point and that's these are some of [TS]

01:21:22   the ways that i really i really just [TS]

01:21:24   want to look at the whole screen over [TS]

01:21:25   and over again which is why I get [TS]

01:21:26   frustrated when the scenes because flash [TS]

01:21:28   by so quickly but uh these are the [TS]

01:21:31   assignments on my favorite farinata [TS]

01:21:33   miyazaki non-toxic own animated with [TS]

01:21:35   lots of qualifiers on that but this is [TS]

01:21:38   this is the kind of movie I like and [TS]

01:21:40   maybe if you are lucky or unlucky you [TS]

01:21:42   will find out some of the even weirder [TS]

01:21:44   kinds of animated movies like but that's [TS]

01:21:46   for another time [TS]

01:21:47   alright new hashtag teaser that would be [TS]

01:21:50   ma one of four perhaps which you know [TS]

01:21:52   will continue to go down this path as [TS]

01:21:55   long as Professor cute will have us as [TS]

01:21:57   students I think all right well that's [TS]

01:21:59   it classes adjourned I'd like to thank [TS]

01:22:01   my fellow students only in Sims thanks [TS]

01:22:04   for being here thanks for having me and [TS]

01:22:06   Erica and sign [TS]

01:22:07   thank you very much thank you i'm gonna [TS]

01:22:09   i'm going to have a dairy coffee [TS]

01:22:10   ah it's very nice very nice i'm going to [TS]

01:22:13   eat a rice puff ball [TS]

01:22:16   Thank You professor John circus for [TS]

01:22:17   picking these films and talking to us [TS]

01:22:19   about the speed of this audio through [TS]

01:22:21   skype channel [TS]

01:22:22   five megabits per second is that a [TS]

01:22:26   cherry blossom IC falling [TS]

01:22:28   hmm thanks for listening to this edition [TS]

01:22:30   of the uncomfortable [TS]

01:22:32   everybody will see you next week [TS]

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