00:00:00 ◼ ► the intemperate or podcast number eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► on your host Jason snow and tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► we're going to be talking about one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► my very favorite books i guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► say of all time it is the now-legendary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► DC Comics alan moore and dave gibbons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/22">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► production of watchmen first published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► in nineteen eighty-six by DC Comics it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► does not use any of the traditional DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► skewed version of originally some comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► book heroes from a different comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/41">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► property transaction which is ironic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► watchman today which is that DC is using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► their intellectual property to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► prequels to alan moore and dave given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► seminal book watchman we will talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► that later on but we're going to focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► watchman itself the original work from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/64">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► 1986 joining me to discuss watchman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► famous most the most applauded comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► book I think of all time probably are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser hi Lisa hiring doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► Steve Lutz is also here hi Steve howdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► nice talking to you too thanks for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► here and we have been Boychuk I been her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/88">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► monotone there that would be that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► be something and also joining us our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► nite owl i don't really know where i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► going with their Tony similar hi Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► hi alright so watchman uh my wife likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► to make fun of me and for many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/113">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► but about watchmen about my watchman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► obsession i have at last count i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/116">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► I've got the original issues the pic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► trade paperback the original trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► paperback a book club edition hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► of the original know of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► trade paperback a book cover and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► and then the absolute edition which came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► I was at the height of my comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/143">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► watchman came out and in fact I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► promo for it in the newsletter from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► comic book shop where I where I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► my comics and and as a result i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► actually say and this is one of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► few times that I've been on the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► floor of something that's notable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► bought watchman number one when it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► out so so I got to read it i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► over 12 months but as anybody who read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► the original issues knows the 12 issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► didn't come out after one month you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► conclusion to the story so over 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► months i read that story and then have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► read it you know in book form since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and I thought I would start there which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► is to ask you guys about what your kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► of personal relationship with this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► this book is did you read it early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/191">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► I'm just I'm I'm kind of curious how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► all came to to read watchmen Lisa why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► don't we start with you i read the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► paperback in 1987 on a model un school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► trip um got no good did story gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/204">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► I don't know how it could be lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► enough than the the young men with whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/212">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► delegation from other didn't didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► me to read it because they were afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► it would offend my delicate female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► sensibilities on account of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► with the rape and the the dog murdering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► and other violence and mayhem and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► dog were during its number two for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► that's just didn't want to deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/230">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► actually never physically grabbing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► book from from one of them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► running to the back of the the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► bus and sitting in the back of the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► in and reading through it once and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► having to stop and look out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► for a bit and then reading it again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► make sure i have understood what i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► read and then you demanded to be put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► the delegation from Antarctica was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► event actually in Syria it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► i wiii i was living in Northern Virginia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► the time i think it was in southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/264">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► Virginia and the school bus had a meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► what basically a governor the school bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► headed governor so couldn't go more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/269">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► 022 reads on a long bus ride yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► when it blew my mind because it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► it was unlike anything I had I had ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► yeah yeah well so so we'll come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► that but moving on to Steve what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► well I was not a big comic book guy as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► kid but I was I was fairly well-versed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► in some stuff like amazing spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/297">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► I think I had a few Howard the Duck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► issues and God help me Archie comics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► i remember back in 86 my nerdy friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► were all talking about about watchmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and how awesome this character mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► this character Rorschach was and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► figured what the hell there was a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► book store just down the street from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► school so I I i stopped in one day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► picked up issues 2 and 3 which were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► ones that were out at the time so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► in fact in on the ground floor or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► least you know halfway between right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► mezzanine you were in on the mezzanine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► of watchmen yes message and that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► we're stopped in for some bacon martinis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► yes anyway yeah so I picked up two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► unfortunately one issue one was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► pretty much sold out everywhere though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► say everywhere but I really had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► since there was no internet back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► those heady days and I so really had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► no means of knowing whether you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► find it anywhere else but I so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► get hold of that until several months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► later at which point it ended up costing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► me something like nine box which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► unheard of at the time but I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/366">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► jazzed to get it and and to this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► watchman is the the one and only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► well technically the only only 12 things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► that i have ever bagged and boarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► wow that's so you were at your hook to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► that point also got all the next issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► is it as they came out i did and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► suffered along with you waiting for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► issue 12 at last issue oh man when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► went to delays before 11 or 10 as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► no I don't think so I I my recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► is that the and I actually at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► i live in the town without a comic shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► so i actually got my comics mail order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► and i got them in a bundle once a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► and there was a watchman in there every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► month and then that last month with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► big cliffhanger there was no watchman in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► the Baja there was no internet for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► go on and register my disapproval back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► as kids that they used to be you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► sort of silently raged in your room a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► simpler time you look at you looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► actually i looked at the receipt in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► receipt which is handwritten with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► marks of like what comics you got under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► watchman it said it I believe somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► had written in pen delay is taking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► fist feebly in your room next month that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► the issue is there so it wasn't so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► watchmen as a young college student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► probably around the year 2000 and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► was i dread basically kids comics before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► that as you know many years ago so I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► know I dread like the arching internals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► and the Batman comics based off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► batman cartoon series and then take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► kind of a big break from comics in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► good friend of mine who was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► majoring in comic-book curry great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/468">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► yeah it was an interesting school this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► is one of those make your own majors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► wasn't yes I did when I was not well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► this friend you know put a copy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► the collected trades and in my hand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► said you know I have to read this and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► did i read it and basically one sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► stayed up all night reading it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► basically kind of relaunch my interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► in comics it which is you know taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► over a large chunk of my life since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► at least a large chunk of my possessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► by weight i'm having just moved my comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► collection and I went on from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► spent you know that was baby the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► of the summer and i spent basically all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/508">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► my disposable income for the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► summer on an immense number of comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► that was all kind of kicked off by a by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► reading watchmen being totally sucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► into it i like the idea of calculating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► your worldly possessions by weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► well I just moved so what I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► that would be a logical but I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► that idea of in general it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► you know that thing that I like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► it there's too much of it by weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► I mean I have you know I have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► compared to like one box comic books oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► no they're heavy yeah yeah they're heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► alright so you you discovered the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► yeah I was you know I a younger age than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► some people I guess it reintroduced you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► to comics which is interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► for me and this is something about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► about the the mid to late eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► comic-book scene and also and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► sixteen-year-old when it when reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► this at 16 years old when your brain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► developing and you're seeing patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► and you you seen complexities that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► watchmen and thought well what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► point and stopped and actually cancelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► my comic book subscription for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► little mail-order people and stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► reading comics for like 15 years because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► ridiculously i was already somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► disillusioned by the kind of soap opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► plots of these ongoing comics and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► this thing that tells the complete story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and has all of these layers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► other comics I i just looked at them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► and and thought but you know I give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► and I and I literally stopped so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► started you on the path and it stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► watchmen there's a lot of symmetry in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► you know one person's beginning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► symmetry amazing so Ben we didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► what was your entrée into the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► watchmen very similar story to yours in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► 1986 bought the monthly and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► ground floor in fact somewhere in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► garage I think her or well somewhere i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► have some promo posters of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► invent them that came out before even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► the the issues hit-the hit the stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/632">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► well II every week because I was so into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► dutifully make the trip to fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► kingdom on olive avenue in burbank and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► and so I still have you know i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► have the original series bagged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/653">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► paperback somewhere and then whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► the absolute edition came out my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► particular year so it's a good gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► absolutely dark night saying the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► year right and that was a big that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► big time for for comics so so when and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/676">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► and it's interesting Tony as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► who's younger than the rest of us on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► this panel a little bit little bit um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► Skoosh the just a little just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► just a couple more substantial amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► like a decade snapper he's got damn kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► the 1i want to talk about being sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► disillusioned and why I'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► that symmetry as you point out I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► when some people i was talking to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► people about watchmen and and I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► even had a conversation on our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► little mailing list about this that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► the perspective of today I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► who haven't been exposed to watch men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► there there's a possibility that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► look at it and they say I don't get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► well I've had that conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► people right and i think that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► totally see that it's interesting I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► I think it's a great work that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► especially well versed in in comics or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► even if you've just seen a lot of comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► book themed movies now you this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► of those great examples of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► after something is so influential that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► everybody everything that's done after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► it is like it it doesn't seem that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► deal unless you when you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► unless you realize that it was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► the first or one of the first to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► it did as as a comic book reader in 1986 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► in 1987 I looked at it and my reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► literally was what's the point of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► these other comic books because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► so they just they pale in comparison and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► today's comics you know there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► lots of bad comics and lots of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► comics but one thing that I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► because i have started reading comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► again in the last few years is they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► don't the things that watchman taught me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► were awful about all the other comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► that stuff has been corrected in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► places in many ways because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► influence of watchmen so I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► think that is over over time and ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► up having a positive impact but at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► point it was so good that I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► you know drop the mic and walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► it's just like you know butBut comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► influential so i can understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► young whippersnappers might look at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► like that yeah it's so it's a dark kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► of story the toys with the archetypes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► doesn't every comic do that cancer is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► 1986 no absolutely not it didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► that way I think you're going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► watchmen and understand why it was such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► a big deal and this would apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► people who didn't read the first time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► approach will post watchman world read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► understanding comics first by scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► mccloud because he has a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► good and interesting things to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► all the decisions that go into how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► comics are composed from page layout to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► composition to the way the words and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► images complement each other and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► the things that Eleanor does throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► this book alan moore and dave gibbons is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► they play with the idle time let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/852">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► where they play with the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► nonlinear time that comics can amplify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► by by pointing out there's that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► thing where what's-his-face the guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► the blue and having massive penis on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► screen on dr. Manhattan is it really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► Billy crudo him interesting things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/871">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► remember I know this is after 16 ounces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► um there's the this particular there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► the signal where he takes her to Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► and he's trying to explain to her feeble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/886">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► exactly live at one fixed point I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► going forward going back heat he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► fixes his consciousness to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► interests him in and for him time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► just another dimension and there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► point where he actually explicitly says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► there is no future there is no past do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► you see and that panels like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► middle of the page surrounded by all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► back-and-forth interplay were where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► Givens and more are reminding you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► from you're omniscient perspective is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► the reader there is no future there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/918">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► no past because you can see things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► unfolding in both directions on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► this end and it amplifies the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► they're trying to make in the narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► and this happens repeatedly through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► whole the whole text where all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► they do is is when they say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► the images in the composition repeatedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► in it and you just get this magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► feedback loop and it's something i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► didn't really fully appreciate until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► after i read understanding comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► began to understand that everything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► gutter size to panel size affects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► sentences that are going captions are or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► now one of the one of the things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/952">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► watchmen that i love is that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► bear scrutiny and you can reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► every time I read it I noticed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► i didn't use before every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► particularly perceptive as a human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► but be that as it may I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► lot there one thing pops out and and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► of the things is you can appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► plot and you can appreciate the twist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► the plot and the interesting take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► superhero archetypes right but below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► that level there's like there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► fearful symmetry issue where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► panel's front back back to front are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► actually symmetric and in their layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► and there's a spread in the center which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► is just I mean super comic-book nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► and yet it's it's amazing and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► the way that the panel's these grid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► grid layout that's used the way the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► that works toward com is doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► they're calling the great Alan Moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► reread and they posted as of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► recording a couple of of parts of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► I think they're going to four-part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► watchman as a part of this may they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► the anatomy lesson in the the whole run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► of swamp thing and they did miracle man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► and they're going through basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► can in a valid more every week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1018">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► tor.com and something that struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► about what they wrote about watchmen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► they talked about the density of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► they said that they counted in one issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► a hundred and ninety six panels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► watchmen and no issue one there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► hundred ninety six panels and an average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► issue of a comic book from 2012 70 so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► the complete the compression the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► sheer density of the watchman is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► so you've got all these elements right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► you that you notice when you read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► that it's not just the characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► applaud but everytime there are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► details that the dave gibbons the leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► everywhere would likely behind at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► somewhere there is a detail that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► I i write it and so so just you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► as deep down into the nerdiness as as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► you want and you will find stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► that that's actually one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► love about it is that this isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► like a story that they told it's al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► whole world that's been invented and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► infusing like every corner of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► panel right that was one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► that I I most loved about watchmen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► one issue at a time was that each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► 26-page or so issue took like five days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► to really redo for me because I sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► there and I did examine every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► panel looking for the recurring motifs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► and we have triangles and the clocks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► watches and then you know I go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► read you know issues when I got issue 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► 5 and go back and read one through three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► again yeah pour over the same amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► time trying to find new new linkages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► between the motifs in the and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► overriding story I did that almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► time you know you get issue 2 and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► wanted to you could issue 3 and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► that was the great the great advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► yeah i mean it really it highlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► especially reading up that the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► paperback over the weekend it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► highlights how much you lose by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► having that one month to sort of stew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► over you know what happened in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► issue because it was such sweet agony to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► go over and over the the issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► trying to figure out what was going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► and anticipate what was coming in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► next month or two months I imagine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► realized in the newspaper when it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► out that Dickens you know Dickens novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► were meant to be cliffhanger dan they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► were really more like what we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► think of almost like a TV show today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► where they would be an installment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► then there'd be a cliffhanger and you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► have to think about it this is why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► should never read them as living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► little literature class the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► they're typically taught you should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► stretch them out this and and this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► mean I always thought about Dickens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► I was watching lost because i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► you know lost heads had its faults but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► but i think that they got beaten up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► frustrating the the viewer but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► what it was all about is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► chapter break and then you have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► a week and in a book or our DVD set on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► we've got all the episodes together is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► you can just go at your own pace and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► TV show by installment you can't and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► Dickens novel in the newspaper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► something to be said that watchman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► not built as a book it was built as 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► discrete elements with time separating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► them so you can actually consider what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► you just saw that said it does hang is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► book which is more than you can say for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► a lot of trades when a serious is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► collected in narrative arcs i mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► this works on two different levels where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► I would have liked to have had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► chance to read it issue by issue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► having had a completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► experience from you guys and having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► it in one big gulp and then reread it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► one big gulp what sounds like you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► enough time on this trip you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► taken a week between each and each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► chapter i had to write my position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► papers for first committee Syria to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► disarm it very seriously but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► it does also hang together as a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► especially with the interstitials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► because the interstitials add some depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► to the bat and the back matter helps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► yeah that yeah the back matter not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► is it great on its own but it is a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► between the chapters and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► you know you could you could almost in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► fact some cases I think they do you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► just drop out the brakes and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► one story and it may even be plotted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► that way watch men there isn't there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► a time to reflect when you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► through you know these book excerpts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► files and other crazy stuff that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► again filling in the backs this rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► backstory of this world you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► know as much about Adrian Veidt without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► it right even with the back matter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► couldn't get rid of you can get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► couldn't eliminate that completely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► watchmen because you would miss out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► fantastic and panels in their own right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► and of course the the gradually dripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► blood onto the clock on the back which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► is rife with symbolism as well so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► couldn't really eliminate it altogether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► no matter what right knows and that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► mean they did keep those so when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► through the trade they've got them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► it was that was it was a whole package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► it was quite a thing to read it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► no doubt about it so so I'm i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► somebody touched on this earlier it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► interesting that the most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► and in some ways the most conventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and heroic in a in that he's a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► fighter and he's actually trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► solve the murder that caps off this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► story is a completely insane person is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► psychopath and he's not only popular but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► right he's actually kind of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► who's being a hero and the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► he's still a hero is because he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► lunatic which is interesting you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► you guys have thoughts about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► Rorschach other than that he is crazy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► guess I I don't have any friends that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► would describe him is really cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► I'm a traveling the wrong crowd to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► that you're the right crowd but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► it makes an easy halloween costume not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► that hard to draw either if you can draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► so this is a commentary on on comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► superheroes that on one level that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► really what this is about is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► like trade try to place a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► superhero ideas in the real world and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► you've got are you got Rorschach who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► who is crazy and really didn't become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► completely crazy and we see why he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► that way and you've got the the creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► of the Minutemen and this attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► create the the crime you basically could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► crimebusters that fails miserably and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► they print and the comedian burns up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► map and and that the superheroes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► outlawed and I mean that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► interesting things about this is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► that this is taking the shot genre that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► is meant for you know the superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► are the are the prime Jonna in comics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► our world although not in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► the watchman which is also funny it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► pirates but this watchman details them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► is just being completely like failed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► completely wreck of an idea of concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► that a human being would be a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► well didn't more intend Rorschach to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► didn't intend him to be the hero of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► I've read sort of the villain of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► piece in some ways and it certainly he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► writes Rorschach in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► wouldn't necessarily be a sip of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► this is a guy who you know in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► issue says you know used to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► he's he's discourse adan you know on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► you know of the running through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► streets and like like coke and little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► yeah hit it contrasts you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► the men who who run the world in 1985 vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► good men like his father who he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► knew right and harry truman who dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► the a bomb on Japan right and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► this is a guy who you know throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► throughout the pieces is you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► compromise not even in the face of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► not it not a hero but but yet he does be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► heroic things and more I think want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and yet everybody and why not everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► but but you know it's funny that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► everything he was the one he was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► character that that a lot of folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► really latched onto and the comedian who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► was also kind of a bad guy i know i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► yeah he's a bad guy and yet at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► time he does get horribly murdered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► and I I work up a little bit of sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► for him when he's when he's sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► the edge of Moloch's bed drunk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► crying about how it how it went to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► Madonna figurine my god even he even he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► is horrified by what he has stumbled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► upon right i mean he it's hard it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► for the comedian not to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► please a little your little sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► like why even this guy is messed up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► that's that it must be bad i wanna let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► me post this because I it as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► rereading it you know there's some I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► can't remember now fight it was an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► that may have been issue 5 or issue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► were where dr. Manhattan is is recalling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► nose is remembering and and and giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► his assessment of a comedian and what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► says is something to the effect of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► Blake saw you know the horrors of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► 20th century and he just didn't care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► best of all I mean eat what what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► what what what this godlike character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► saying about the comedian is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► of this motley crew of of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► that populate this this universe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► watchmen maybe the comedian understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► best of all and there's that line about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► what happened the American Dream and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► comedian says it came true you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► no Abby this is this is one of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► things about it is that you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► Rorschach was not intended to be a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► but but the point is that he he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► some typically heroic things and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► he's trying to solve the crime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► anyway she kinda has his act together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► a way that the other characters clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► don't because the other characters or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► you know the kind of losers are sellouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► and you know he's got that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► strongly that he's introduced with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► you know there's like four pages in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► row with him kind of investigating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► comedian's parties got a grappling hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► he's got a grappling hook and his hips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► too and i mean it's it's a kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► introduction there's no dialogue 44 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► pages it's not him like narrating his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► his exploration we just see him kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► you know moving through the apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► searching places although it is a hermit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► least once ye grunts and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► other kind of you know but he's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► you know he's not required to narrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► what he's doing to the audience or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► anything and then you know the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► characters are kind of introduces you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► know i'll be looser or other kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► basically crazy and um at least kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► seems to have at least his professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► act more together than they do I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► well and he has a lot going for him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► the end I think in that he's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► one that's that's that's willing not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► put up with the madness that fight has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► exactly i mean he's easy only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► innocence or at least drag the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► the world away from ominous with him so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► been here here's what that line as Blake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► is interesting i've never met someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► I've never met anyone so deliberately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► amoral he suits the climate here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► Vietnam the madness the pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► butchery as I come to understand Vietnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► and what it implies about the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► I also realize that humans will will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► permit themselves such an understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► right well that goes into Morse whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► thesis that anybody who gets into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► business is going to be able cracked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► get up two spaces effectively well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► see it in the original incarnation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► you had a hooded justice who gets killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► after piece of rough trade and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► original the original silk spectre is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► certainly not a model of well-adjusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► anything right well it and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► the the more you know but personal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► no matter of dan dreiberg has has hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► up his costume and he you know he's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► he's the Batman analog right and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► he's got the amazing garage full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► stuff that's gathering dust and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► he's imp and he's impotent until he puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► on the costume and fights crime at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► what I think is interesting that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► night al1 into is not how one gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► it's just he writes this map he writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► this memoir you know that we see under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► the hood and it it opens with it opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► with a supposed to open the tragic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► anecdote he has to borrow from one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► really is tragic and humiliating for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► somebody else and this is a guy who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► kind of a middling to ok he happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► right he happened to right away if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► yahoo.com of the superhero and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► he gets out just in time he has a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► retirement is beaten to death and drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► all things considered you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► driver picks it up and he's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► just a rich kid who's looking for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► kind of purpose or meaning and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► whole character both incarnation seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► be seeking for something that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► gonna quit attained and they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► self-justifying delusions to to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► putting on the hood or to keep making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► little their little love their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► ships or or to direct a little memoir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that they paid really dance around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► issue of why they did it it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► said that there's there's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► impotence issue and I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► supposed or I came away from it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► always going from it just being coupled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► disgusted and I'm sorry for those kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► from for both incarnations of 9l you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► know there's almost nothing to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► them as people which is ironic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► well-well dreiberg is trying writing he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► hang he hangs it up because it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► outlawed and and you can see that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► he really did have nothing else in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► life but now right this is filling up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► from fulfilling and he's filling a hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► by having this this superhero life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► so he jumps back in it at the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► it'sit's see strikes me the marriage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► convenience who actually the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► character in either the Minutemen or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► you know what would have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► crimebusters who got into it exclusively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► because he wanted to fight crime and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► because he had some perversity or yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► if that's what you're asking he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► yeah so far as we know yeah everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► ruffling through their copies its jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► nice and i think i think about and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► think the fact that he I think the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► that his life ends the way it does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► supposed to tell you that that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► even that this is not a business forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► for normal well-adjusted people at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► yeah what good it does you so so do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► a maybe talk about dr. Manhattan a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► little bit interesting interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► we get to see his little his a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► depends on the size sizes variable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► dr. Manhattan his penis is blue penis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► my defense that my first impression was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► on a movie screen so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► there's magnifying effects well sure we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► can talk about the weather that was CGI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► or not for poor old Billy Crudup you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► know it's interesting i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► reading up on on some of the wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► stuff and found it interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► Givens was concerned about actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► showing the full-frontal with the penis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► deliberately makes it small to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► seem like more classical sculpture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► is not the approach they took in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► he's worried about that but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► interesting double standard from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► eighties yeah from the eighties have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► essentially omnipotent he other than if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► there's a pulse of tachyons in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► case he gets confused but you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► seeing time in a different way from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► he's the only character in this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► story with actual superpowers to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► is interesting and their horrifying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► are horrifying and when he changes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► changes i mean the balance of power in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► the world it really is i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► not lying about the Superman is real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► he's American i mean this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► take on on on Superman in a way which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► if there was a guy who appeared who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► these incredible powers and he was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► American would that not change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► balance of power and more takes it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► the ways is then we sent them to Vietnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► you know we we didn't we didn't say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► well this is he's gonna work for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► good of humanity was like no he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► do what we wanted to do so you know it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► I always always thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► really strange and interesting character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► to have walking among all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► characters in this doctor because he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► he is if of for the most part almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► cipher and the back material reveals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that the original quote was actually God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► exists and he is American which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► makes it even more horrifying i like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► I like having read them out basically i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► think i think there's no other way could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► have ended them with him saying screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► manatee i'm off to something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► worth my time in my talents right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► he's got the part that perspective at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► the end which is which is like the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► of the the line of the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► Adrian which is it's so true we've we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► taken this entire plot and then it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► obvious and of course it's actually he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► Ozymandias right and the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► air is the shelley problem about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► crumble the empire that used to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► and he's taking this is this incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► monument to his greatness and and dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► Manhattan the guy with the eternal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► perspective lays down the lays down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► few that this is not the you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► not the end of the story because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► aren't such things as ends of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that just doesn't happen but a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► is a couple issues earlier the sweetest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► thing in here proving that Alan Moore is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► actually a soft and hard that one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► favorite things about dr. Manhattan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► convinces him that he can intervene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► which is this sort of the simple story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► that is the story of every human life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► which is that you know who could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► predicted that what would have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► you know and it which was with blake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► laurie smith mother to create him and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► create her and the the this video sperm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► the one sperm to fertilize the one egg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► and this chain that goes back through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► every parent throughout human history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► and you know Alan Moore as as cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► guys he can often be is really saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► there that you know every human being is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► a miracle every human being is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► an amazing through thermodynamic it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► miracle that that it that one slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► change and you would not exist it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► you know the and I i think that's a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► of an interesting almost happy thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► find in the midst of the bleakness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► this of this story although it struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► reading at this time that it's it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► a little odd that he hadn't picked up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► intel Lori told her her story about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► own lineage he's focused on his blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► le he spends all his time on Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► focused on the chaotic landscape as he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► you know shaping his glass castle its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► just seems a bit odd that having spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► as much time as he did on earth and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► the presence of of lori that he had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► got that connection before until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► know at the crucial moment in chapter 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► or whatever it is they're tachyons he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► was distracted or you could I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► perhaps it's I mean the kind of the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► that dr. Manhattan coaster is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► kind of loses more and more touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► humanity and the understanding for even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► the people around him until perhaps then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► he reaches this point where he sees them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► as you know not just these ants but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► these kind of miraculous combinations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► fascinating against PS fascinating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that are exactly you know the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► are and lower is the only one he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► any any connection with at all left at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► that point and so but heard the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► so the thing that that that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► finally make him snap out of it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► bit at least realized that that even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► he's way above humans that humans do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► have some sort of relevance let me throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► this is this is from Grant Morrison's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► super gods and he has a longest section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► on watchman which he says the god of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► watchmen was far from shy he liked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► muscle his way onto every panel every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► line he strutted into view with his blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► in Oregon proud display but everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► you look the watchmaker was on hand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► present his glittering structure for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► approval and aww just as Manhattan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► directed his own flawless crystal logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► machine to lay out to lay out the law to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► a distraught Lori in this Manning Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► the god of watchmen could not hide and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► beg for our attention at every page turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► he was a jealous maker who refused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► allow any of his creations to be smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► than he was so the passive his genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► became a genocide alidium the confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► trained psychiatrist was reduced to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► gibbering wreck by their darkness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► the sole of his patient the detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► stumbled through the plot to their doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► superhuman was shown to be emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► retarded and ineffectual it was as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► God had little more than contempt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► opportunity to transcend the limits he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► set for them at first you kinda might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► think that he was talking about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► Manhattan there but he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah that that's that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► I mean it is this is this is the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► the story right is that everybody is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► completely ineffectual and you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► guess I it's worth asking the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► then which is how you know how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► guys read as great and intricate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► interesting as this work is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► what is it what is its meaning to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► how does it you know what meaning does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► it have for you beyond just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► packed on the John read that it's in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► thought the lesson of Washington's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► I kid that's that's what I took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► nothing in the adolescent I took was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► that comic books aren't any good except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► for blood yet but I should just give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► give up everyone give up a lesson is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► that common tell really great stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► well more didn't really set out to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► produce a meeting as far as as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► hehe wanted to you know take the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► medium somewhere new wine and maybe blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► up superhero no superhero trappings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► along the way right tell what if story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► the germ of his idea was he thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► would be interesting to see what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► charlton characters and and and me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► threw them into a realistic setting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► know any meaning that arose out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► nothing ever ends Steve well there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► that maybe that's our lesson or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► the lesson is that there's nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► well it isn't all that much I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► and this is kinda blue and this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► of why for me the work you know as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► much as it meant to me it meant more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► me when I was 16 and maybe when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► my twenties and it does now that I'm 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► and it's well it's one of those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► that it you know it's it's you read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► and that you know you'll never forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► the first time you read a story like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► yeah re i remember vividly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► going over that the first just the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► engrossed and captivated and I and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► you know it it just blows your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► right i mean you're cute and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► your your teenager and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► but over time I'm you have i read it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► read it again carefully right before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► movie came out and the the one the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► great impression I was left with was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► this is really kind of a relic of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► eighties and allow you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► and maybe not so as smart as I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► it being and I think that just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► with with time and experience in reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and and your perspective on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► changes but so for me I I'm a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► ambivalent about the book now I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► know 20 years ago I I was much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► passionate about it and I and I i I'll i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► loved it and now I think my order has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► has cooled greatly then would you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► what you said this book has a real cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah I'm going to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► stands out for me when I do the reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► is just this real polarity of this real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► sense that both sides will always be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► they are and it completely dismisses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► idea that something could happen as did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► happen in real life in 1989 going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► the nineties something other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► Armageddon right i mean yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► and and so there there's an there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► naivete about the book and so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► know to read it now is to save it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► quite as sophisticated as as I once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► thought and and so you know Ben when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► hit your forties the order is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► thing to brother but it went like anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► I don't I I think I don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► sophistication I guess what I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► is that is that part of the appeal of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► is that it is that this is a story is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► I think it is it is all and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► man that is the perfect time for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► because it's all those comic books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you loved as a kid and that you're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► getting in the mail once a month right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► I mean for me that was exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► was they are they they are day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► don't bear any resemblance to reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► they don't work logically that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► we're going to use this medium to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► destroy all of the you know the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► conventions that you've that they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► that all these beliefs that you've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► about it and as as an act of rebellion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► is kind of a bomb placed in this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► genre that i've been reading since I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► it was incredibly effective effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► not only was that a bomb from 1987 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► uh it changed the medium and the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► has moved on so what were left with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► you know that it was influential and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► that it's got a kind of a clever plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► although even there the time sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► stuff has been beaten to death by modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► narrative techniques right i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► quentin tarantino did you know made pulp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► fiction with with slices of of time out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► of order and every TV show and movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► since then has has done that and so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► the doctor manhattan stuff where it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► cool that he used time non-linearly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► like yeah it everybody we got it we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► it right so it makes it very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► to look at that at and so in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► that the stuff that I've I discover when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► I reread it is not so much about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► message or the meaning or the the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► even as much as the detail in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► and for that I I we've been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► about alan moore a whole lot but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► that I i give a whole lot of credit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► Dave Gibbons whoo-hoo the detail in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► work especially if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► absolute collection is really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► amazing and viewed on purely on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► level i think this is a this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► amazing work i think more himself even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► said that he was discovering things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► know that's later that he didn't he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► no idea where their yeah yeah so i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► to give it even if you some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► stuff has lost its power over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► relative of the eighties in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► influential still some of that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► that work that the Givens did is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► and the absolute also we should say John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► Higgins the original colorist recolored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► it because the color technology in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► eighties will apparently really terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► there's actually a great story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► about that i think i think maybe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► absolute edition about how he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► recolor it digitally and it's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► version that's used on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► regular trade editions now is also using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► that special recolored and it they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► much better so the shoutout to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► the artist because that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► amazing work in in the details of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► panel of this of this book actually I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► really really glad you brought up John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► Higgins because i've i've always felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► was a bit of a shame that he didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► an equal credit with that with Givens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► and more because his color work is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► it's a major major part of what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► watchman great from one of the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► things about the recolor that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► definitive version is I think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► think that morgan Gibbons basically said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► give humans are money and so they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► paid him and he gave him a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► share or gave him all the money i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► sure but he he paid or maybe you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► techniques where he could heat their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► stuff that technically he couldn't do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► 86 and 87 that he was able to do and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► looks great and he actually got paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► because apparently got paid basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► nothing for this being involved was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► so it's actually really cool story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► there's a book called watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► watchmen that came out about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► time as the absolute that's like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► coffee table book that's got lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► sketches and notes and some of alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► moore script and that's for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► loves the story or who has spent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► that's a that's not worth checking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► too because there's a lot of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► beautiful detail in that and a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► about how it all came together we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► talk about the movie briefly at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► Lisa can get in her kicks but i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► to start i want to start with then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► to carry on with what you were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► incomparable podcast we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► about watchmen briefly and then you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► made the provocative statement that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► movie you know we always say things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► well you know the book is still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► it's not changing just because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► movie and you actually made the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► that that the movie diminished your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► yeah yeah so like I said if a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► minutes ago I i reread the book before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► saw the movie because i wanted to mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► yeah and you go into the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► book is always better than the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► you you can understand after seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► and be filmed and I and probably not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► the way that you might think I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► it because it in some ways it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► it's just ridiculous on-screen and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► maybe it's because of the will love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► way you know maybe blame it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► director or whatever but no that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► start that's just the start in the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► I'm it that that movie you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► there in the past 10 years there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► been two movies that I've seen that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► thrown me into a week-long depression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► the Phantom Menace was one and watchmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► was the other one but but the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► that when you see this stuff act the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► stuff that does that that's on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► that you know that you you've studied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► that you've you know you've gotten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► the ink on your on your fingers reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► so much and you go back and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► actually see it interpreted and put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► the screen and you realize just how kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► of dumb advice whole scheme really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► yeah and then you kind of think Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► this is this is it this is it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► yeah and the worst is the dialogue I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► mean what what looks good on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► sounds unbelievably stilted when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► comes out of people's mouths yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► and now so it it it it it because it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► because i think you know you have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► you have you have Rorschach's voice well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► I always imagined his voice being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► something very different from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► Jackie Earle Haley did and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► actually pretty good movie but but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► it's it's jackie earle haley voice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► not when you look at the book and and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► course there are other problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► book and the biggest is that that Lori [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► gets the line at the of the book yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► john told me something once when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► eating tacos so I don't know nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► a lighter and you know yeah John I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► I've reached the end of my taco nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► oh here are you gonna do that that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► what are you talking about nothing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► ends but code taco Charlie's gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► today that said making the the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► the significant change that snider made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► in you know translating it from book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► screen which was basically blaming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► whole thing on dr. Manhattan for getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► yeah that makes a lot more sense to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► giant oculus thank you God bless you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► you know what though is as dopey as all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► the rest of it seems when put up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► screen i don't think the giant octopus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► would come off that poorly Lisa have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► yeah damn damn first of all if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► ever gonna watch the movie leave after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► the credits because the credits the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► part of that the credits are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► oh my gosh I had such high expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► after watching that sequence because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► that sequence is such a distinct visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► style and it provides this it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► puts you in a frame of mind where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► understand the Ark of superhero history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► as as takes place in this universe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► got a very it sucks you into this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► bubble and your kind of expecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► whole motivated to do that it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► bit of adaptation you could argue other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► than changing a lot of the end in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► filmmakers actually sat down and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► we need to not be slavish how can we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► this medium to tell a story quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► effectively evocatively and then you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► from that distance that is big and dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► and let wet and loud and on fire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► well and it is using every panel as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► as the storyboards and is using every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► dialogue bubble as the dialogue as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► don't think you should at this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► I think when you're doing an adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► you really need to to to stress at adapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► as guesses as the as the syllable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► creative endeavor because you absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► cannot transpose something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► place the strength of one medium into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► completely different medium without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► considering the the deputies individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► strengths my biggest complaint about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► this movie however is that they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► really miss cast a lot of the roles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► i will contend until I'm old and senile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► and Adrian Lori most particularly I oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah no I'm agent has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► played by Tom Cruise or somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► Tom Cruise like iso a feat horrible he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► was crazy German ich accent thing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► but he's like a gyro weenie you know its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► just oh hey now's the time on sprockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► when we dance he has that kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► know no clown seed and in the book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► thing that thing is so creepy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► Adrian in the book is he tries so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► to be personable and he tries so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► be this charming approachable Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► all time all time and space aside young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► Robert Redford's there is Adrian right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► mean he is friendly and and attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► and he's your buddies and he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► into a death roll from twilight zone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► ya know I still think tom cruise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► yeah got it that is kind of what Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► Cruise has going for him is hey I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► star and I'm approachable and you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► you pal around with people and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► something about him that still sits your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► teeth on edge will kill you tackles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► I totally think that's just see new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► totally think that would work for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► movie and I think he was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► interested in Lori they just cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► somebody who looked good and couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► act sad she fit the said that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► right well now I did the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► deserve better they did the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► they do every time they could cast any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► woman superhero which is they go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► somebody who will fill out only at are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► not looking at that as opposed to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► mixed martial arts fighter or some or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► somebody who'd be built like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► professional who uses her body to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► people but it goes back to the slavish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► devotion to the source material right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► they needed to get somebody who looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► like Lori so that's what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► unfortunately they don't make them look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► apparently no no one there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► realism that aren't enough actresses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► Hollywood I guess whether there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► the whole realism of comics that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► into question to which is which is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► you're a tough beating up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► beating up crooks crimefighter would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► wear an outfit like that and would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► look like that and chances are neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► of those things is is true I i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► wrote at the time i actually wrote a i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► found that the other day a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► about after I'd seen this movie which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► actually saw with Lisa it was always so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► it's Phil who is completely ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► have baffled those never read it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► refused to read it beforehand he said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► don't want to read that I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► go in to assess it as a movie yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► they had that had that work out for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► yeah so so my feeling about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► it's actually not that different even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► positively than you and Ben I i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► were not that far off by feeling is with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► the exception of some casting I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► adaptation of watchmen could probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► at least in the two to three-hour movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► format right only in the sense and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► basically that means I'm agreeing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► that i'm not sure it if I i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► is about what you could do if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► to do it and look it you know judge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► as it is it kind of doesn't work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► they are not sure they could have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► I to your point Steve I mean everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► who knows me and knows I've said this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► million times which is adapting this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► 1212 episode series for HBO maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► yes at with those individual chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► breaks back but the fact is economically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► you know they just get them they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► usually do that anymore unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► george RR martin i guess but I so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► instead they made it to our movie out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► it and and and it's it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► looks good and it's very slave Ashley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► devoted source material and yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► the exception of sexy which is expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► from the source material and is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► and is unwatchable is is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► least sexy sex scenes in any movie ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► they really should they should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► should couple that with abstinence only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► education very everybody read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► watchman and now watch this movie and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► god every don't even don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► read watchmen just watch that one scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► yeah then this is what awaits you every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► kids don't really know what to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► so are we were with friends i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► genuinely enjoyed the movie i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► that's that's that's an unusual opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► but as you may have gathered from past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► and to me just just the fact that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► i I was seeing these characters that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► grew up with and love to put up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► screen by somebody who clearly loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► them just as much like marionettes know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► there's something to that I've seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► I've seen it twice and we'll see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► again so i don't i don't hate it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► you know I i would say i'm deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► ambivalent because I appreciate the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► lot of the work that went into it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► feel like it was faithful and yet I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► also look at it and think move really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► you know I just kind of feel like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► the point yeah well look it it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► League of Extraordinary Gentlemen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► never seen that I don't think I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► the reading your spirit that's for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► never really ate it it was about as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► as you could get with about with a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► to three-hour adaptation I mean that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► major beefs with some having issues with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► the caveat that the casting was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► my biggest beef was I didn't think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► was something that you could show to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► watchman virgin and expect them to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► any idea what the heck was going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► I think that the directors cut on DVD i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► think mostly solves that problem so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► mean I i really wanted to use it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► opportunity to to show it to friends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► who would never give the the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► paperback shot and and kind of use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► hasn't has an opening to get them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► watchman and discuss it but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► yeah I saw it with a group of friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► familiar with comics movies and to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► they just didn't really see the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► right it to them it was sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► inferior compared to the dark knight ur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► and other things like that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah I i proceeded these motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► comics versions of it that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► thought were better in that in that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► were trying to be faithful to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► exactly faithful to the source material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► and Gibbons actually drew some extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► stuff for them and you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► i showed my wife who is not a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► books reader and and I thought that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► thought that went ok / okay with her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► effective way to tell that story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► five-minute TV episodes using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► original artwork with a basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► narrator whereas the movie it is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► yeah i mean i-i can't judge it as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► somebody who hasn't read the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► so ima make absolutely no sense to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► and why wouldn't surprise me right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► my other big beef was that it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► completely obvious from the start that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► Adrian Veidt is the guy behind the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► I mean just that accent just drips guilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► Egypt's puppetmaster vibes yeah i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► not get that when reading the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► i'm reading the story in the been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► anything you know that that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► that was a twist that worked for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► although reading the book this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► trying to to trying to really catch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► to all the clues and hints i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► believe i had not figured I know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► time it was actually / I know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► they keep dropping the in our defense we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► were all young teenagers that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► I'm gonna keep dropping things like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► pyramid deliveries and they've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► through how he has all the Egyptian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► stuff and is a yeah but you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► don't even notice a lot of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► it's well-balanced it feels clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► yeah yeah it doesn't it's not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► those home right cat-like plot twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► that comes out of nowhere but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► Allison Janney's his mom I don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► what so so my last topic is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► that they're making prequels in comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► form and prepare to be depressed again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► before we watch men all my god watchman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► watchman baby watch the babies are back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► have you guys seen this saturday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► Watchmen clip that somebody put up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► yeah it's off actually the the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► put that together was a hairy Partridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► who is the son of XTC frontman Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► partner huh interesting literally there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► wow so so obviously all the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► geeks are in an uproar about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► because they're there was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► interesting debate about it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► originally kind of started as a use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► these charlton comic book characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► 30 ok full credit to Steve as ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► pointed out I'll ray is not with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► anymore so the heat so that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► they're making these prequels and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► well eight years here's my view on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► when they collect them all into you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► a giant omnibus which they will which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► they will a different ways time all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► i will go to the barnes and noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► assuming the barnes and noble is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► and assuming the shrink-wrap has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► ripped off one of the copies i will flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► through it and if it attracts me then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► I'll buy it but otherwise otherwise they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► can go straight to the devil full full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► the DC they they are getting a by large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► well thought of writers and artists to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► do this the end they're not and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► trying to take care with it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► kind of nice that they waited whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► 25 years to do it and give it some room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► to breathe at the same time you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► is they own the copyright on it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► you know they're they're not making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► sequel right there they're filling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► characters and such a mystery even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► they're awful well yeah maybe so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► it doesn't i'll go again say it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► change the original of a band that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► proven me wrong on points already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► Lisa you know terrible terrible idea yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► I i think i think it's a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► just because i think that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► reasons watchman works is because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► characters we know right now all we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► about them as is what serves the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► and frankly I don't want to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► what makes the comedian tick I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► need to know what traumatic event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► happened in his past that makes him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► I don't want to know about how hard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► was for Rorschach to go through junior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► high without ever getting a balance or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► whatever the hell else are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► two attacks to explain that the Kings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► that's how were shocked by this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► trench coat he walked into brooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► brothers and they laughed about a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► up and then he went back instead of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► the thing is i don't because when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► kind of prequel stories happen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► typically and there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► wink-wink nudge-nudge there will be will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► be weird little call back sir or sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► serendipitous things that that imply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► that these characters pads have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► been meant to cross because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► some writers going to throw that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► sure think they're clever got it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► annoying to the smiley faces and clocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► yeah or it's going to be you know driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► walks down the street and accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► bumps Rorschach in the shoulder and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► he doesn't realize he hit that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► and hey there they're doing a max she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► no no I'm not interested in that art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► it's gonna be that kind of it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► a combination of oh look there in jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► to satisfy the fanboys and fangirls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► we get to find out what maybe skip what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► they are and I don't want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► made them what they are i don't care i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► don't think it's I don't think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► serve the original story i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► it will amplify it i don't think it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► make it better and I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► so you're not even if the shrink-wrap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► is ripped off you're not gonna look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► the yeah actually end up regretting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► every time I've done this in the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► square where they go back and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► backfilling stories in secret origins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► no origin is ever as good as well i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► going to come up with in my head so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► just end up regretting again I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► spice and I'm going to ignore it pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► yeah me two chlorines and out now do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► yeah exactly i was so much happier with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► the star wars universe before I walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► into Phantom Menace you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► depress bed again it's too late it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► most depressing podcast ever had at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► point I think that before before DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► alan moore and dave gibbons out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► rights to the the characters i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► there was some talk of them doing a set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► of prequels based on the Minutemen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► that i think would have worked because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► it would not have been an attempt to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► know filling back stories and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► independent war and there is a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► men prequel mini-series that is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► them they're doing i think is that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► not be horrible because it will is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► long as they steer clear of too many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► the QT Association right which ya can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► i mean i i'm in the same boat as Lisa I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► don't want these back stories filled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► fact i think one of the reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► watchman works so well for so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► deliberately avoided making really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► moral judgments on the characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► and kind of left them a blank slate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► use the reader could get sort of draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► your own conclusions with and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► the more that you fill in the gaps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► these characters the less that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► yeah I I ice i agree i mean III with Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► I I there maybe they may do good work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► these may be good writers and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► interpretations of these characters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► on the other level one of the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► watchman works is that you fill in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► gaps and I i don't think people talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► about that in in fiction enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► that even as an audience you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► imagination that can go at work and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► implications these little bits that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► implied go so far because the creator's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► know that the audience is going to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► in the gaps in a way that pleases them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► whereas if they made it specific it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► would be much more difficult and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► why I met I'm ambivalent about the these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► these prequels is that they may be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► I I don't really like necessarily what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► they stand for in terms of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► really playing with the memory of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► thing that I've got in my head which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► watch men as a stand right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► really in comics a very rare thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► complete standalone work where these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► that's it and that's going to be that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► going to be done well here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► here's one let me make one last point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► do we really need to see you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► intricate details of how silk spectre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► and her lover or not off and when worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► than that someone I guarantee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► they're gonna tell us what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► hooded justice suggests they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► show Blake killing hooded justice or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► whatever which is one of those great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► there's the implication that Blake might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► have been involved but it isn't it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► just it is just out there and yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► will probably be dealt with literally so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► they couldn't go to the devil is alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► but Barnes & Noble still in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► been in the end the shrink-wrap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► undone you give it appear if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► elaborate set of conditions is Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► that's right the the Spirit is willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► you know you gotta take a peek at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► car crash as long as you're driving by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► alright well I think we've I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► kicked the kitchen kicked the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► kick the prequels and talked about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► this this this book enough for now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► uh this was great and and I I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► feel like somebody like been destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► syracuse it with real genius so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► good that so that that's good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► because because I i share some of ben's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► Syracuse's just wrong about real genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► and that's all there is to it since he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► not here to defend himself that's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► no that's the best thing is just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► anyway so so it's been great talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► watch man it's been great talking comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► books from the mid-nineteen eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► so until until our next episode i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► like to thank my guests the they are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► own personal Minutemen steve lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► you can be who would you can be uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► hooded justice III don't know you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► be good luck i don't think it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► end well for you Steve lights thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► I'm oh I'm okay with that to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► with justice and and and it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► pleasure Jason talking about a work of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► literature with it which I can do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► this case because it has pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► stuff it has fixes yeah it's nice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► except with pictures but then Boychuk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► thank you for being here young committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► and that nothing ever ends except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► this bottle of wine and i finished just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► a minute excellent it may refill itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► this was a lot of fun and thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► not making any oh so inspector I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► try know why would I do such horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► horrible thing i'll do that when i added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► ah no no make it a prequel and Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► sindelar thanks for coming it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► to have you on the podcast again it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► I'm not trapped on this podcast with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► he'll finally somebody made a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► reference that everybody got and and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► it's just you know pick something out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► the crank file and run that credit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► uncomfortable and Jason thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► I guess we've reached the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► podcast then yeah I keep yes hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► oh I said I guess we've reached the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► of this podcast I oh not just friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► control and I'm sorry I've had 16 ounces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb0Qbl4/4279">TS</a>]