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78: Clones and Telepaths vs. Love

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 78 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/0">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► februari 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/8">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► we're back on the uncomfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► I'm Jason smell your host and it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► for another edition of our comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► club and this love is in the air can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► feel like you smell it does love have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► smell if it does I hope you can smell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► love is in the air it's a that time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► year valentines day coming around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► who better to talk about love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► relationships and things about the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► heart than the members of our comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► club because nothing says love like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► comic books onra so joining me here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42 ◼   ► two very loving people to their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► spouses and not to each other around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► that came out wrong jason reitman hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/48">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/52">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► hello thanks for being here thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► having me and Lisa Schmeisser hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► attention comic book readers this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► podcast contains spoilers for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► different comic book series so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► afraid that we're going to ruin let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► say the plot of invincible or many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► comics like I'm about to spoil the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► people on the podcast so this is why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► warning you now go to the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► calm and look at the show notes for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► episode and we will list everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► we're spoiling and if you are afraid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► can just not listen but we think you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► like it if you do listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/87">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► alright with that out of the way yes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► topic today and the comic book club is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► abroad one instead of talking about one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► book or one series we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► about comic book romance you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► interesting it suffers from a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► same issues as comic book story telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► in general you have long running series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► you have long-running relationships you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► have relationships that come and go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► various combinations something we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/112">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► just saying before we started recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► is Jason you mentioned it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► kinda hard to find a role model relation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► reasonable relationships real reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► realistic positive relationships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► comics relatable couples yeah right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/129">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► it'sit's it is and if you go back a well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► we just want to jump right into it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► probably the poster child of of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► relationships with a clear example how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/141">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► this Superman injury also i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► considered that was like a clip like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► close number two but i will get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► daredevil with everybody order double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► with Elektra your double with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► yeah I don't think it actually started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► with Elektra he you know fell in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► with this woman turns out she was deadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► assassin happens they thought they loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/162">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► I mean that part's pretty close to real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► relationships and died and she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► directed ya came back tied but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► know some often happens in the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► Universe it done oh yeah and it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► out uh Daredevils an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► character when he's suffering so having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► him fall in love and then killing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► woman repeatedly I made yeah good sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and good stories good drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► sure so they then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► again with Karen page which was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► next girlfriend and but with her she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► became a drug addict / pornstar then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► maybe what you got the HIV I was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► them got HIV in there too wasn't enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► for her merely to be constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/203">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► imperiled by his roster of enemy she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► also got an incurable virus and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► remember which one right i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► it was Karen page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/211">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► although she was a porn star of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► for the drug money before she was killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► and I was doing the born-again his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► storyline which was also by Frank Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► and the other hand is not you go to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/220">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► your functional comic-book romantic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► then from there there was a typhoid mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► who ended up being a bad guy and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► there was the last one they marry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► daredevil off to another blind woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► could do charitable blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► yeah Mia mhm can't remember her last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► name and her one of his enemies drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/239">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► her insane and she had to go into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► insane asylum like completely catatonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► so the unlucky in love daredevil right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► all or all of these women are unlucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► just cannot marry or date him or he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► just bad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► yeah it's like Scott summer you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► ever date Scott Summers customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► Cyclops from the x-men ya series of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► wasn't lonely eight telepaths for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► who resembled telepathy previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► learned a lot of the odd thing about GM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► soon as Jean Grey who was Phoenix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► then she died and that was very sad then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► there's apple and a red and they went i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► wrote that down and they went like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► good ten issues before bringing back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► duplicate of jean grey mantle and dryer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► right which like guys can again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► a recurring theme canna comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► industry show any restraint and telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► a story in leaving things alone for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/285">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► little while the answer is no you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► if they can wait a year if you're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► they'll win right Jean Grey was left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► dead for a significant amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► right but the Madeleine prior thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► happened right almost instantaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► yeah comparatively speaking out and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► got married had a baby and then gene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► comes back from the dead and he totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► dismantling it it like that and whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► gone yet completely nevermind the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► that he had a family and children with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► her it was oh my wife is back from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► dead have fun clone of my wife who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/313">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► actually I can't remember the plot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► permutations one of them is that in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► cast on the floor of the sea that brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► us to the inferno store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► aligned they would you can get nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► collected now on amazon or your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► comic store where it was revealed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► Madeline prior was a clone done guys mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/330">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► sinister yes the brilliantly tire titled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► mr. sinister and learn and then she went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► on certain mrs. sinister named their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► child they didn't really know what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► gonna happen to him it turns out he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► going to leave to life neighbor hippies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► and we're like he'll find his own path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► exactly you'll find him so mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► technically his first name he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► they were inspired by mr. mr. the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► mister mister sinister you right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► wow it i had a conversation actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► with his broken cleanse and learn to fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► well it's really complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► relationships i think that's what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► learned yeah read it happens a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► because they had that whole scroll thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► with Hawkeye and his dead wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► Mockingbird whom he thought came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► from the dead and turned out she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► really scroll an undercover scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► all right Scott with anyone came we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► didn't even talk to Scott Summers ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► up with the gonna ask the white queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► right who was bad but it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► it's still hanging with with gene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► because he was telepathically cheating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► on gene with emma frost that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► again ok so tell me one out there beware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► of telepathy and clones complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► relationship knows why he's telepathic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► women date Scott Summers because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► can read his mind you know what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► thinking and you know it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► end well he's very complex and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► really enjoy that like a rogue yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► are there speaking of whom is the rogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► and gambit capo it yet and I like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/412">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► three of us of simultaneously roll our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► eyes so that one can truly it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► here's the thing about these did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► these couples come and go and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► them keep coming back like like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► Scott gene but a lot of them are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► know it is the soap opera thing which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► said our earlier before we started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► comic books are I've said this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► their soap operas they are continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► stories in the same minute soap operas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► are and stable relationships generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► not entirely but generally are not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► to buy that kind of drama because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► want to keep pairing people off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► breaking them up and having affairs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► all this kind of drama and so you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► a few relationships that seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► more like bedrock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► well right now we're just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► the mainstream publishers marvel in DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► what I've noticed in my reading is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► nowhere near as fast as Jason so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► a tremendous caveat is what I've noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► this in smaller imprints or imprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► that aren't supporting the types and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► flight sonra is you're more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► find a relationship that doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► all the storm and drawn of of a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► school dating Club well but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► realism injected into that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► definitely more heightened superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► comics relationship maybe don't although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► there are some stable ish relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► or have been yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► in the superhero comics there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► the exception i think more than i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► have to go out there for the the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► elephant around all of this is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► lot of that superhero stuff is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► poorly written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► yeah and the idea of if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► somebody's girlfriend or take the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► characters significant other and torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► that's just easy drama women in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► refrigerators women referring to women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► refrigerator problem it's it's angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► baby are easy drama and if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► mediocre writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► it's like putting a guy in a Nazi pseudo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► bad guy you know it's not this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► they did with the green with the green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► arrow Black Canary wedding is and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► made me furious because i was a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► huge birds of prey fan and they had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► a really fantastic job over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► of birds of prey Gail Simone done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► wonderful job of rehabbing the Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► Canary character and turning her into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► somebody who is a plausible leader in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► battle and a plausible leader of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► in the Justice League and she goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► Mary Oliver Queen and I think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► last Simone issues are one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► I want the Adventist I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► anyway there's there's one issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► birds-of-prey were friends basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► stage an intervention with Dinah you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► this guy have a really really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► history are you sure you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► into this and she just blows them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► and then you go into the Judd Winick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/561">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► scripted wedding where it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► she doesn't marry green arrow she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► marries his she marries a bad cough a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/569">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► no more or less it's a bad guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► morphs into green arrow and tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► kill her on the honeymoon night it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► happened it's and then what you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► to do the divorce rate is very high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► i miss you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► Marvel and peep about that because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► thought you know you've got almost 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► years of history with these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/582">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► characters why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► is it really worth of that this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► temporary spike in sales 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► spike this on the wedding night it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► kind of speaks to this real adolescent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► fear of all my god relationships oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► god what did she ask me to do the dishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► so okay that is a perfect segue into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► into the the accident I wanted to grind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► in this podcast which is that some at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► some point after about I think 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► of spider-man and he and he had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► girlfriend Gwen Stacy who was killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► which i think is the exception that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► proves the rule right you can come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► with a few examples of of deaths that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► were really shocking and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► basically permanent and she's with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► girlfriend death in the Marvel Universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► right where the girlfriend that in up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► yeah with a girlfriend in jeopardy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► done well and not cheaply but it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► equivalent pretty shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► yeah but uh but then so it after about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► 15 years maybe or 20 years of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► existence of spider-man he's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► longtime girlfriend Mary Jane Watson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► there's a that they are they get married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► and there's a whole event where they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► married in the comic strip and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/646">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► married in the comic book and they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► special issue and all that and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► interesting about it is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► attempt to fundamentally change Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► Parker from being this kind of kid who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► who's on the outs to being this young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► adult who's struggling now he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► struggle with his adult relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► and try to have a job and have a wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► and have a family with being spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► so it's different but it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► it's different in the details but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► necessarily in the indie / she thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► that goes for decades for decades and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► some point to reason that I thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► this one leads to mention this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► at some point the editor-in-chief Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► Comics said i don't think people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► have spider-man be married he'd been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► married i think at that point almost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► long as he's not been married before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► that it was at the at over 20 haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► alright so but they're like oh kids can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► identify with that we want to make him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► single again and and so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► forgetting how many adults read and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► they take this bedrock promising and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► and they do it plus i got ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► spider-man which they could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► which is that old old Peter Parker kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► of storytelling they so they they been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/708">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► badly execute this thing where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► deal with the devil made and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► there like retro actively time bubbled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► into not being married right count all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► the divorce now you have to have a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03 ◼   ► with that divorce is too much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► bummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► yeah i'm going to make it that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► never married but what's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► me about that is not mean we could and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► it's been hard on at length about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► poorly that was executed and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► really reads like somebody sent a memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► joe quesada send a memo saying do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► and then they did it and there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► real reason story reason given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► I I don't want to talk about that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► much as I want to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► underlying motivation which was we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► a character who is in a stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► relatively I mean yes they're clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► sagas and she goes to the west coast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► modeling career and all that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► basically they were married for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► in real-world time and somebody in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/757">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► position of authority said people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► want to see that we don't want a stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► relationship with our character he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► as interesting with a relationship that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50 ◼   ► the last we want to get rid of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► i think the the thing that proves that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► not the case if you look at the get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/775">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► trade paperback again now the Cravens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► last hunt which was the first storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that happened right after Peter Parker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► marriage to mary jane it was about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/785">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► long time villain Kraven the hunter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► kidnap spider-man drugs him buries him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/790">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► and then takes his identity dresses up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► as spider-man and then goes and beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► one of spider-man's other villains that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► spider-man has never beaten I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► vermin or something remember correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► and then spider-man wakes up after being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/805">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► unconscious for two weeks to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► that craving has now taken his identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► is doing this thing and all of the drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► from the story came from the fact of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► he's just he's a newlywed his wife you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► know what happened to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► I've been gone all of the emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► angst around like wanting to protect his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► family and her being scared by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► spider-man character that's out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► but is not her husband and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► happened to my husband like huge amounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► of drama and amazing heart-wrenching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► story and then at the end of it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► Peter Parker comes back and confronts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► Craven he kills himself because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► whole thing was beating spider-man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► by taking his identity and being as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► villain he has now become better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► spider-man doesn't need to fight him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► anymore he doesn't need he is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► much just on with his life and kills me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► often it's actually been another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► meaningful deaths that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/860">TS</a>]

00:14:21 ◼   ► carried on comics have never bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► Craven back the drama of that story came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► from the his relationship with his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► yeah it was one that was right after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► marriage and I think when writers today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32 ◼   ► talk about married Peter Parker is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► as interesting his teenage high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► Peter Parker first like you pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► they have ultimate spider-man they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► tell those stories too and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/881">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► other thing is they're just lousy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► writers yeah and and maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► they're feeling is that their readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► would rather have Peter have a bunch ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► he's bunch he's juggling a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► girlfriends which is i would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► counter to the whole idea that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► is he's not he was never successful with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► her what you know at least LOL broadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► layer and now Sam it's better when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► done OK and the reboot and the rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► of of of spider-man or the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► retroactive debt deal with the devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► thing they've turned him into like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► he's got all these girls who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► interested in what's going to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► it's like what ever you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► spine i guess that was their idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► more romantic subplot that people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► appeal to be I wonder if part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► it's very very easy to script beginnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► of relationships it's very very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► script endings and relationships and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► lot of these endings from about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► profoundly stupid reasons and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► wonder is if part of this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► subconscious attempt to mimic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► experiences that a high school audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► or even a college audience is having as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► they embark on their romantic life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► because there's so much drama instrument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► ring when you started dating in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► school every to the like me to not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► me with their friends don't like me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► on and so forth and and by the time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► your mid-twenties like you have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► to filter that out this is suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► arrested development on a part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► core of the creators or their assumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/967">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► about where there's something about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► readers because i would argue that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► you do it well you could show the drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► that's inherent in having a 20-plus your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► relationship and trying to mediate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► investment that relationship and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► people against the demands that outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► life has for you so tom defalco and Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► friends did a long-running and now dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► series called spider-girl which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► about Peter Parker and Mary Jane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► Watson's daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► who had spider powers and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► enjoyable for a lot of different reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► and as somebody who has a daughter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► died i loved having a strong female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► superhero character and she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► going through exactly what this classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► Spiderman stories were except it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► woman instead of a man or a girl instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► of a boy but one of the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► things about that book is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► depicts a decades-long marriage between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► Peter and Mary Jane and he's retired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► from being spider-man because one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► enemies like he lost a leg in a battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► and so he's got a prosthetic leg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that breed Richards built for him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► you know but it's and they've got and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► got a marriage is having a second second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► kid and and and made Parker the daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► is struggling with her powers and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► there's lots of great drama there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► and it shows me that that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► this should be no surprise that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► life doesn't end when you get married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► you get its different industry more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► complicated one of what a nice man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► one of my favorite me some reason is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► curtain people is a curfew CX tournament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► series on I got kidney Clark Kent who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► basically become Superman and I good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► well it's no it's an ordinary kid and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► can't remember the title of it up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► air maybe it's killing me because I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► see the covers and the artist beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► and basically the for many that the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► books did birth right now okay now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► but though the whole arc of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► is first the first book he's meeting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► powers the second book he's meeting lois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► lane for the first time actually her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► name is Louis Louis chowdhury because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► she is absolute is a secret identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► yes I believe it is Superman secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► identity and it's fantastic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► basically the whole arc is him trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► balance having superpowers and and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19 ◼   ► good in the world against the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21 ◼   ► he very much loves his wife Lois and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► loves his twin girls and the last book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► is it basically is is the fruits of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► 30-odd your marriage he has and discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► that his girls independent superpowers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► as well and how he mediates the worry he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► has for having superpower children and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► and his wife at some point is like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► well now you know what I've been feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► for the last however many years and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► just this beautiful little panel because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► it's it packs so much history and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► emotion into one tiny exchange and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► one of the most positive depictions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► the premise that you can be a superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► and still have a healthy robust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► functional romantic life thank God it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► was an elseworlds tale that if it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► that's as we used to call it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► imaginary story i like those real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► stories also exist so Lois and Clark are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► one of those bedrock relationships that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► that don't mean they do come and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► occasionally but they're mostly there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► think they've got married several times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► that's right well yes like Phyllis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► Diller in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► Reed Richards at Reed Richards and Sue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► Storm Richards are another example and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► there's really a bedrock relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► marriage that's that going aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► that time when she ran off with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► brother and he got an army of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► super-powered criminals to hunt them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► well you know within a few exceptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► they have essentially been they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► some spat ya right they separate and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► their different writers but they've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► had but sadly and start married they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► started as a boyfriend/girlfriend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► then they got married when they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► as anything hit on him is like a 40 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► old guy he ages the other direction but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► it was the 60s and they have kids right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► which is they have 18 children now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► four decades has got everything time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► there was Franklin Ellery yeah and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► had we in a great during a John Burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06 ◼   ► run which is considered I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► second greatest run after Stanley in be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► great I they had a miscarriage and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► was pregnant for many many many issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► know how long exactly it was and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► went into labor and read had be fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► Doctor Octopus to coral as you did he do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► and during it all she's nobody said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► wasn't going to be complicated but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► in the hospital i dealing with this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► he's trying to get back to his wife and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► by the time he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► she's already miscarried or telescope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► Bergen and it's just have really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► touching scene and again drama that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► can have with mature relationships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and other things and that's the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► they have two kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► yeah and who only occasionally I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► just reading the mark waid fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► four runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► the early two thousands and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► Franklin was literally sent to hell yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► that's right to be tortured for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► while and that caused some concern if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► could get an idea how you can talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► you can talk to Giuliana Rasputin about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► that making billion on greater actualize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► why stop there why stop treating X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► Factor because I do like Peter David is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► a writer and I was a big fan of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► was a big fan of the series because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► think the way just X Factor know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► the I think the first iteration where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► matt mattox is running the detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► agencies or no that's a recent one okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► yeah alright that's what we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► about that's the one that basically came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► in pops into existence in the last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► years or so and one of the plots has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► been getting really drunk in his clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► bedding all of the women on the team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► banshees daughter whose name is eluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► me at the siren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► thank you she gets pregnant and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► and Max become a couple carries the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► to term and the first time he holds the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► baby it turns out that she was carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► a club she was impregnated by a clone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► according to the laws of the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► Universe the baby is but a clone and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► he reabsorbs the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► yeah gross yeah you and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► actually the moment where i put down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► book and said I'm done I'm out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► because it well because all they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► after that was no she's angry and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► there's there's drama attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► so-and-so for you you're my baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► yeah you know you could talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► weather on a couple stays together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► through this kind of wrenching loss and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► instead it's like a drunken jerky used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► to clone to impregnate me which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► and telepaths yeah stay we make it hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► to have a relationship right us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► we're learning the other thing I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► learning is besides divorce you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► possibly make a deal with the devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► yeah you get out of this fifth marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► isn't working or anything it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► like Satan's annulment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► I that could have been the title of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► series why was I would have been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► i would have been better than one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48 ◼   ► day so no and and I'm no more understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► the point to it may really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► she's an old well we we had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► conversation I think just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► it she's dying to meet I maybe should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► he's not evil afterlife to keep her away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► one of the series I want to bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► which in my mind has the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► relationship I've read in comics is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► Sandman mystery theatre by matt wagner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and steven biko writes it and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► think of his co-writers name and drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► by guy davis largely all those couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► other artists who have helped but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► very set in the nineteen thirties New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► York the run up to World War two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► Wesley Dodds come back from China and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► does this very pulp fiction character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► Sandman and he falls in love with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► Diane this last name is going to escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► belmont who is the police commissioner's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► daughter and that migrants Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► seagull seagull kept going to go to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► Thank You internet yeah I so the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► underlying thing of the story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► whole run of the series is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► relationship and how it starts off in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► kind of dating way then gradually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► get closer and closer and she's like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► of the driving forces in the comic veo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► it's the cheap is much you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:17 ◼   ► nineteen-thirties appropriate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► starting to branch out into that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► modern woman and wanting to have a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► not being satisfied with the status quo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► not being satisfied with where women's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► positions was back then and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► finding a bond with Wesley and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► eventually he let Syrian onto our secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► and then at night she starts driving him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► around and being is sort of partner but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► it really in the best sense of the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► like when marriage is really working i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► don't i haven't finished the series yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► because they only released the eighth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► trade paperback and I think there should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► be two more and for some reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► like to leave a couple years between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► releasing these paperbacks but a their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1495">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► relationship is so amazing and it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► in stark contrast to a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► stories happen to be rolled it around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► largely around like you know maniacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► taking in skinning women and torturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► them and some really really brutal stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► so even creates a stronger contrast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► it's an amazing realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24 ◼   ► partnership between these two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► who follow in in love and he ends up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► being able to do what he does without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► her and it's not done in any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► like pandering that's a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► change from the usual i can either to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► have my Cape life or my love life but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► can't have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► that seems to be a constant source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► dramatic tension see also that writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► right and this is completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► and they struggle with it a little but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► it's more on she's trying to help him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► and he's there because they're a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► because that's really what a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► relationship is right it'sit's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► amazing i think this is why the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► superhero relationship that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► well not just one let me backtrack when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► wildstorm did the storm watch team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► they did the authority one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► they did on storm watch is they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► made a rule that if you couple if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► you pair up with a team that you're off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► the team and their premise was if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► you're we can't count on you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► distracted by your feelings for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► partner if you're in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► so if this is important to you leave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► seems logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► yeah and several people did and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► with the authority they have of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► the midnight and Apollo who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► basically there Batman Superman analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► and they are of course a committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► long-term couple who's raising Jenny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► quantum and there's was just as very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► matter-of-fact yes we're here we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► queer where 300 pounds and we'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► you a pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► yeah well it's well it's ok it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► but it's also a totally functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► relationship there's no drama there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► nobody gives them static about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► think that and get beat up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► exactly and there's a night and Apollo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► are pretty tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► yeah but between that and the other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► other 1i want to call out in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10 ◼   ► capes is I really like the invincible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► has been handling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► I was gonna buy it has written I've Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► Eve well not just that I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► the very beginning when Invincibles moms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► like so I've been married to an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► invaders yeah along now with and she it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► takes her a while to recover from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► and it's a really realistic thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► she was the comic never lets you forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► that she has betrayed down to her core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► and even though they're they're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► together now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► laughter much of that was that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► an easy thing now he had to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► because he betrayed her in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► different way than a normal betrayal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► what happened and he was a secret plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► from evil empire and they shouldn't plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► yeah and then she raises his half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► insects son by another larval queen yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► but it's it's a super awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► what it is but again this is but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► a great job of flushing out her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► character because it points out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► she's like well this child obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► needs a mother and I will do it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► well it's in it's it's it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► moment but Invincibles one of those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► about it doesn't take that false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► dichotomy of caper relationship right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► William what it doesn't set is say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► there's ways to do both because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► the whole point of being a superhero is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► not that you're this bifurcated person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► the whole point is that it's just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► of who you are and and mark and Eve in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► that comic are you know not together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► when we first meet them he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► regular girlfriend but it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► that Eve and Mark are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► together and he was dating someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► as well yeah it's super here and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► nice it's a nice progression but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► they're together they also she's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► like becomes his business manager a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► little bit because he's very busy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► she's also got power so they're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► like they're two superpowers together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► they can like get paid to catch escaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► convicts and clean up messes and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► like that so they got a little business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► going and then he gets sent because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► very cosmic oriented series he gets sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► offworld for a period of time and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► pregnant and he doesn't know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► leads to a whole interesting subplot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► where she's pregnant and did she lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► the paper just to have an abortion i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► don't have not read that far as she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► not sorry I'm spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► well okay I'm gonna get trade by trade I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► don't think it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► well the point is now that everyone's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► um she doesn't have the baby but she you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► know she goes through this emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► process and she gains she gains a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► weight and the way it's not coming off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► she her body has changed and when Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► there's this initial thought of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► wow you know settle yourself together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► right it's like no this is me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► who I am and that's been really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► because they're still together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► you know always strains in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► relationship you know diamond giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► giant dinosaur supervillains can haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► their effects like clones and telepaths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► but i like the fact that that Kirkman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► invincible is trying to have them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► these countries fails but they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► that they're really together they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► they're a great match and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► married or anything yet but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► they're really great match who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► reason to stick to stick together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► these things that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► clones and telepathic dinosaurs don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► necessarily get in the way of that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► is nice to see so a lot of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► superhero genre a lot of what we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► talking about is a the main protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► being a male and having a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► relationship yeah and exit except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► midnight on Apollo but it has been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► female lead books or characters who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► also had relationships I try to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► Wonder Woman there aren't that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► female lead but seriously either one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► the challenging way I'm rifling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► the vertical back catalogue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► reason I say vertigo is it's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► most likely to aim at women right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► terms of readership but i can't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► it ya know now I was thinking there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► that there was a miniseries called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► witching which is about three women who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► were which is obviously Supergirl never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► had new love interests about girl i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► guess you could argue that the runaways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► is sort of a female-led book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► sense that it's an ensemble and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► ensemble with a really healthy gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► mix em um that said because it's a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► about teenagers and the whole point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► they're teenagers with exceptionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► complex lives you're not really going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► find any good examples of relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► where all I can pull out kitty pryde who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► has every every adolescent boy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► eighties you know left Kitty Pryde and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► she had adolescent girl needs want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► well this is the best keep riding pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► nice right so so so she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► relationships but I always eating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► you know Gotye hated him so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► like I won't repair to the eighties I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► all my god hate him so much because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► course anyway like I was saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► were essentially having non couple yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► right right but this is this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► those samples where at least as I've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► didn't diagnose that most people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► that they were thinking of it from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► perspective I I never thought that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► could these relationships were her being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► paired with people it was who is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► to be paired with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► and of course that's what I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► referenced earlier of course Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► Parker gets kitty pryde in ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► hilarious and like why did nobody think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► of it notes because their ages were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► have different in the regular Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► Universe but that's somebody and Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► and and and Kitty specifically where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► they had this sort of she's young but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► she loves she's at release a crush on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► him and he's older and he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► hold her arms length but you know India [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► something they're like they would throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► you just again I said this is somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► who read this during the eighties you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► know we go as I traveled the arc from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► elementary school through high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► they would throw you just enough to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► there's hope as soon as she gets older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► oh my gosh one of these days he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► notice that she got kidnapped by Caliban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► yeah the source for a while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► they bring her back she married and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► she ran into people's demand and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► know the later on yeah but it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► all my gosh that was one of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► unconsummated or i should say one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► great non-relational joss whedon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► consummated a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► yeah I don't think I don't acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► that that's an alternate universes far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► as I'm pretty private much integrated I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► Bendis and ultimate yeah yeah yeah then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► she ever was that was that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► masterstroke ultimate spider-man the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► first you know the first edition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man with Peter Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► and mary jane and Gwen Stacy and Kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► Pryde yes you're right that's three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► pretty he's got a pretty good batting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► average there if he's got those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► women interesting him but all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► relationship or different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► yeah and they were all really good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► the mary-jane Peter relationship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► believable and understandable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► detail about who these people are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► here they work together why they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► invented the Marvel Universe although it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► was always its independence things he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► was always treated more as a hapless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► victim of the relationships I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► were completely with women driven women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► dominated and I think it actually goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► back to one of the high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► well noted that word acumen totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► clueless about one of the ethos in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► these tights and flights books though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► which is which is that oh these guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► great at beating the crap out of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► other on top of the Empire State [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► Building but oh they're helpless when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► pepper pops depths tops are dainty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► whatever when it's such a human emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► come into play and when they do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► don't have the power to just do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► they want and not everyone is as great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► and all aspects of their life you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► because you're good at your job doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► mean you're yeah that's what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► not everyone is that well-rounded yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► that was and and so I was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► about the about that but the it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► stroke of genius to put kitty pryde and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► Peter Parker's high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► well but Kitty Pryde and and Bobby Drake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► and uh and I storm storm was your agency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► also super high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► yeah it's great i'm sorry that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► didn't go on library I wouldn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► that was not really that again i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► talk that was pretty yeah I i recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► invested all of my ultimate spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► trades and now I'm kind of wishing i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► i would love to go back I would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► you can borrow my hardcovers marveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► at how long can you please do a nun told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► and untold tales series i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► I'm smarter arrow high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► yeah I don't superhero highest i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► remember the name of the title that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► out of years ago I think it was a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► think it was a wild storm title i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► it starts than I but it was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► about a superhero high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► um and what I remember is they tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► do what basically amounted to hyper text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► on the page where you have the comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► and then you'd have all of these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► back 20 blurbs that were call-outs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► imposed it's gonna drive me crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► because I can you can see the futuristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► font they used in the covers it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► a 13 issue series i want to say back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► circuit 2004-2005 where they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► did a superhero high school and the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► was it would be even worse than regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► sure well because in addition to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► usual petty jealousies and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► you had people who would not hesitate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► nuke each other because they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► power to do so or people who turn each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► other into bats or what have you ever in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► teenagers show lousy restraint yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► that was basically the premise was these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► people did terrible things to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► because they have poor impulse control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► Sam so if you had to pick one favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► comic-book relationship from your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► comic book reading but what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► will be the one that you would pick as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► long as we already talked about its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► the Diane belmont Wesley Dodds Sam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► mystery theater i would read that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► and over for the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► all right Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► see now I want to read that too um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► that's good that's part of why we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► I kind of want to divide it into tights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► vs non tights sure that I'm one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► things i noticed we focus a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► superheroes we haven't really talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► about the non-superhero a lot of the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► superhero genre is just like literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► in that it's got a lot of realism and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► more of a event where I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► mention the walking dead which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► super realistic in the zombies but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► christman but there's some really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► there's a marriage and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► issues and some of them are but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► licensed marriage but it right but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► is a story right bullet to that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► but it's a story and and and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► seem mean I the relationships in non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► superhero comics see more or less i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► would think about as well handled as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► your average relationship and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► works which is some of them are good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► some of them are bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► yeah because i was gonna say free i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► the book scalp for example but it drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► me nuts but they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► relationships and that which is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► horrible horrible dramatic drawn-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► things um I have a soft spot for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► dignity is Ralph ensued knee because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► they were that ended poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► well yes and no yes and no because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► granted her brutal rape and murder was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► what was a challenge on it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► quality their own horn but we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► laughing our terrible terrible way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► how horrible that it was out of left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► field a bright because they take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► character she and she and route soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► Ralph had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► it was almost like Nick and Nora Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► we're basically these globe-trotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► wisecracking mystery-solving people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► oh yes he happens to be elastic men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► so you had this solid functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► marriage and I realized the reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► decided to these terrible things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Sydney was it was supposed to shock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► to your core that this beloved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► stable member of the DC universe was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► horribly violated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► however um first of all people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► really taken aback that it was sued me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► and not in the MS Reed more type away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► but run it out to you monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► however it ends with Ralph dying too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► they're reunited and now they're solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► crimes in the afterlife and so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► that they got back together I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► that's sweet afterlife crimes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► there wasn't any ghosts detectives know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► the ghost times now and I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► they're back together and back to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► there Bantry old self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► um I wanted to complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► relationships on fables but we've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► think we've passed that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► but if you ever if you wanted to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► what are you saying fairytale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► relationships don't go well Tucker don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► live happily ever after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► no they there is a Brahma killer well no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► I actually a lot of complaints about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► snow white baby relationship because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► that one is going entirely too well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► considering the tremendous amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► baggage they bring to the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► and the fact that he got her pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► when she was out of her mind with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► hallucinations or something um wasn't he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► out of his mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► she was the one who know because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► because I believe that I they may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► both been idea why but it wasn't long is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► a wolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► yeah and the and the Northland also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► yeah we can do but plans telepaths and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► mean if you were old but if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► if you're really craving an up-and-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► type of drama with them with the romance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► and the riding off into the sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► I know you don't care for the book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► preacher is actually a great romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► story about you know there's a definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► are really really it is it is they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► out their differences in every couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► has them they work out their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► communications issues and they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► having each other's back and they ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► off into the sunset on the horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► literally so it's bonus points for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► it's a surprisingly sweet story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► underneath the gratuitous you know men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► who have sex with sausages and angry god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► and while and backwards Nazis and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► all of that so of course my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► comic-book relationship is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► commander and marionette in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13 ◼   ► Micronauts know it took us four now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► I'm not a lot of love in the micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► universe not yet that's not true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► Kroy and his girlfriend who can't who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► has is having his baby but can't be with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► him because he's banished from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► people for betraying them even though he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► saves them bug and his girl oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► lots of romance in my ovaries just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► small to see budgets back in the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► Universe I guess back in the marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► universe because they own the rights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► bug they just don't know it to most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► the other characters so that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► things awkward because like I would tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► you more about my friends behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► allowed taking them tell them but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► any in obscure and circumscribed ways no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► i trade my turn maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► I'd like any pride is probably the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► touchstone for me even though I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► hated Colossus I always thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► the that was that was the interpersonal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► kind of relationship that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► definitely follow when I was a kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► big and hard and yes and that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► hate him so much protected he watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► out for her battle and and yes you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► to rely on our special and all my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► oh I hated him so much and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► although although the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► spider-man i think in terms of modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► relationships I I Bendis one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► advantages of having that decompression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► and all that dialogue is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► actually got to build up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► interesting interpersonal relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► in with between especially Peter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► Mary Jane I'd agree with that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► would too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► I like brian michael bendis is a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► a lot yeah well i mean i was gonna I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► gonna take the last few minutes to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► about what are you reading and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► going to bring up the new ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► spider-man which as much as i railed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► against what they did to Peter Parker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► the death of Spiderman arc with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50 ◼   ► obviously and painfully named death of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► Spiderman arc we're in which they big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► surprise kill spider-man in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► sorry Lisa I'm spoiling everything today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► in the new amazing spider or ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► spider-man series it's great because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► it's all the good things about dentists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► except now the kid is not even younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► he's got some different family dynamics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► but he too was bitten by a genetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► altered Norman Osborn corporation spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► and his powers are slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► and he interacts with the ultimate sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► and with Gwen Stacy at one point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► basically gets read the riot act about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► if you're going to be spider-man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► gotta understand that you're in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► shadow and you gotta you gotta you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► you gotta follow his example and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32 ◼   ► that and it's actually don't dishonor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► this it it's amazing how I again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► like how they ended it because i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► like it was we're done with this let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► just let's just wrap this up but the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► series is great for all the reasons the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► old series was great which is really its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► Bendis and dealing with like kids trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► to struggle with their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► relationship to the world which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► material and so the Miles Morales the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► new spider-man is it's a pretty easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► turning out to be a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► character and I think it was genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► turning Peter Parker into Uncle Ben yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► oh no that's exactly it he's gotta live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► up because Peter Parker's whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► watchword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► was with great power comes great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► responsibility and now now miles has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► live up to Peter's example it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13 ◼   ► so yeah they did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► there's there's a chilling that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► really got me on their side is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► chilling a couple of issues where he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► to interact with spider Ultimate Spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► Woman with who is a female clone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► Peter Parker so she has all the memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► of Peter Parker up to about you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► years right in which four people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► listing who haven't read those ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► spider-man things the jessica through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► yeah whoo and the ultimate universities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► as you said a female Peter Parker yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► that brings up so many interesting story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► things pretty well she's kissing Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► store oh yeah and you know Anna and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► weird and Ben just deals with it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► like so do you like really well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► you like boys now and she's like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► maybe but i also remember loving Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► Jane so I don't really know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► fascinating but she has to interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► miles and its really weird for both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► them because peter is dead and he's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► sort of spider-man and she's mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► that but it because she is sort of Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► which means she can also kind of be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► representative of him to the new guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► it's it's great i am so so Brian Bendis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► you know III he does really good work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► gotta say I'm ivory every time he loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► me he gets me back right i love the flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► side o moon night the new series by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► business as I've read the first seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► eight issues and that's when there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► a couple of shit is that was bad i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► been trying you know I've really trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► because i like the moon I character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► maybe I'm missing something I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► it's not resonating I don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► yeah interesting there tonight always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► seemed like a better idea than an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► execution yeah you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► yeah because i read the whole big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► mansion built if its run and it was has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► none of that forced air and good that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► should do it will sink its podcast would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► be cool if he dumped by my darling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► middle that's a good idea i went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► and read my new mutants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► why would that go visit my new mutants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► run recently and we'll think of its does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► a huge shark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► yeah and i remember reading it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► fourteen-year-old and just struggling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► to understand the art and what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► seeing exactly know and it was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► radical more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► lock was like we're straddling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► abstract black with a pair blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► yeah and easy against the 49ers I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► really struggling to try to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► the art and try to make sense of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► going back now and looking at its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► striking to see how he's influenced a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► lot of visual conventions and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► interviewing years so you know we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► we should definitely talk about how he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► shaped storytelling or if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► end if it was for the better or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► that's a great idea anyway so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► know we're also just was gonna revisit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► watchman now that we've uh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► another podcast with now that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► announced that they're watch men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► prequels coming out there's Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► there's there's that there is too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► better do some heard that I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► watch him Saturday morning cartoon yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► watching babies the other i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► mention a few of the other things i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► reading and then and then you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► should say if there are things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► are reading and rereading i just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► the first issue of Winter Soldier which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► is Ed Brubaker doing a non going series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► about Bucky who is the winter soldier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► and he's you know from the pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► Captain America and I feel like I'll off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► I'm gonna follow Brubaker it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► loved what he did with that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► and that whole story arc where he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► be deprogrammed from being a Soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► assassin and then he has to be captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► america when Captain America is dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► now he is trying to sort of like faked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► his own death and he and the Black Widow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► are doing secret missions and Brubaker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► such a good writer and I love what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► done with Captain America that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► I'm on the train for winter soldier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52 ◼   ► that's that's such a great new Karen new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► Marvel character not new but yet new I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► and I'm i like the first issue of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► so i'm reading that red POC is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► astonishing x-men now and I've left i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► liked the first two issues that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► done because it's essentially read I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► don't know if he's going to stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► this but it's essentially remaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► exiles which I liked which was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► author your file alternate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► x-men where they just plot plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► characters from vary from alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► different parallel universes yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► really sort of like this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► leiter's that old TVs right saddle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► the x-men but with your memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► over or very soon be like spot aspergers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► spider-man 2099 the interest is lots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► lots of this crazy like mix-and-match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► well well astonishing what park is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► is he has like a storm i think it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► to Cyclops and says I need your help and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► she's got her Mohawk instead of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► current hair or do and he goes with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► and it turns out that that's not his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► storm and she's she's basically plucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► him because they keep stealing x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► from other universes in order to to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► horrible like dystopian universe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► they're using them as power sources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► then there's like an alternate Wolverine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► there and they break out of the jail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► it's it's it's cool because it i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► loved exiles I thought that was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► crazy idea to show to make all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► various alternate characters team up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► that's what great park is doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► astonishing so i'm i'm kinda on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► for that I don't know whether that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► going to be the premise of the title at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► all or whether it's just a story arc but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► I'm liking it so that's what I talked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► into it that's what i'm reading now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► i read a book called fenman which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► comic book biography of the physicist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► Richard Feynman women who might drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► Jim ottaviani and leland myrick are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► going to my amazon lists are the are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► writer and artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► fine then I guess Richard find that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► who worked on the Manhattan Project and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► famously led the Challenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► investigation board after the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► challenger incident and it was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► cool that was my wife got at the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55 ◼   ► and brought it home for me and biography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► as comic book and it uses his words from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► his lectures and his writing to form a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► story of his life in comic form and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► a it's pretty cool so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► that's what i'm reading Jason what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► hi as so right now I'm reading a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► the new kirby verse titles that dynamite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► is publishing so these are Jack Kirby's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:22 ◼   ► later creations the ones that he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► yes Silverstar capital victory bombast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► there's a whole series of they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► published by tops in the late nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► or the early nineties he died in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► mid-nineties and then things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the galaxy hunters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► at Marvel had published a series just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► recently on these Kirby claytor Kirby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► creation so dynamite has them all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► now and they've put them together in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► universe it's written by Mark way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► definitely knows you see it was me away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► yeah we've done resident here a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► good writer yeah I think about a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► kirby creations is there fairly insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► and out there and just on bass tara lynn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► and so much energy and you take all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► them and put them into one look and act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► and even it's like you feeling every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► issue they're introducing another 36 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► characters your and concepts and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► ancient Mayan gods and base that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► people are gonna go there reading city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► go all the way then there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► couple of human characters who are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► the midst of all this and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► puzzle it out you're just like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► where are they going to go next and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► just high energy Alex Ross is doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► the covers and some of the layouts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► Mark great weight is writing it so its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► high-quality stuff just a million insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► ideas so it's just basically this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► untapped Kirby sandbox and tryna crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► character designs and try to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► make it i hope coherent doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► cold here right now but they're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► like three or four issues in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► everyone i get there is another 36 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► characters and concepts kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► introducing like whoa where's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► struggling notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► yeah it may have been a huge disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► but if it is it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► brilliant beautiful mess of a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► cool that's cool Lisa what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► I've been doing a lot of ketchup because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► this is actually the downside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► switching to trade format and away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► the flimsies yes I apologize again for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25 ◼   ► spoiling invincible no it's okay is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► it takes so long between compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► sometimes that in order to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► appreciate what's the new 1i usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► have to go back one or two books just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► get a good head of steam the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► somehow putting on the cutting edge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► how to happen when i get my iPad i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► probably back to single digits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► storage since the issue that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► not the bugbear for me anyway I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► recently caught up on scalp which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► Ryan you are that's taking place in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52 ◼   ► indication Aaron yes whom i love i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► is right is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► my only complaint is how he's handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► the main romantic relationship because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► well he's not but some otherwise they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► the tension between tribal culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► obligation versus the surrounding an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► encroaching Anglo culture and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► question of where your loyalties lie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► whose laws are you ultimately bound to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► he's done a great job of exploring those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► tensions and seeing you know it's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► gap and seeing how people fall in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► gap and how they managed to climb out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► it's made for a really good series so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► far I think they're up to six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► trades on my brother i sent him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► first five with a note saying you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► to read these and so I don't have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► to lend out anymore but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► following up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► um I caught up on fables and i think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► out after after the most recent I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► still way back in fables it really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► didn't go as I love it yeah I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► future is bleak a kick it sounds to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► as somebody who hasn't read more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► few issues that there was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► logical kind of endpoint yes there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► and then it's not going well i think yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► they vanquished the adversary and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► could have gotten very interesting after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► that because obviously this huge power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► golf word that we're just not used to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► decimal used to be but it didn't and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► have all these here and you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► fairy tale people who are like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► can go back to my land and take it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► again and you have people who now lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► in Atlanta Palestine problem yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► basically is it basically is and given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► that the red are used Israel as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► metaphor for how people should solve war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► oh yeah huge fan of Israel it comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► his work where we're off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► Israel is wow yeah yeah huge fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► Israel big basically says we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► work enough act like the Israelis do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► this is how we're going to win the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► and that's how they do because this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► fantasy and but where it's gotten to now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► it's there there's all sorts of magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► who do and and the witches are planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► different coos and now one main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► character has become the paladin of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► avatar of Hope which just sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► like the kind of BS you'd find in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► really bad gene roddenberry Syfy series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► yeah ouch like i said i'm out i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► most recent i read the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► story arc and I thought this is hogwash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► you again you have other options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► yeah this is good what is it about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► i'm still reading on written which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► getting increasingly more complex all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► gotta catch up with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► yeah I really invited out yeah I'm as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► mentioned on previous podcast I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► really i'm still unwritten and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► scribbling down recommendations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► whole time we've been talking so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► imagine the next time I come back I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► gonna be like everything jason frasor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► when talking about my inventory so i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► been reading chew on your recommend yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► oh yeah I'm she's been kind of fun i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► read the first issue and because it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► all the hype of two and read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► issue and wasn't it's not for the weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► of somebody engage it's not for the weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► of some I'm just fascinated by how weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► a premise it is and and the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► issue wasn't great but I bought I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► the first trade i think it's a digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► trade my brothers and my brothers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► mighty fine five so yeah I think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► try the trade my brother sends me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► trades and it's another one where I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► kind of have to get used to the artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► because it's definitely a ascetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► departure from the from the typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► types and flight style but it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► fun and at the risk of making it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► like I'm eighteen people should get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► my lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► it feels really young compared to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► of the stuff that's in the Marvel and DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► vs it's not it's a superpower story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► told really non traditionally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► actually in some ways to remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► the top ten love top to wear it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► where it's like police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► yeah yeah except that's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► traditional intentionally traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► story and she was like similar in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► it sort of super law enforcement but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► really non-traditional which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► terrible superpower to have it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► just some edit then they say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► know eating things in order to tell what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► happened with the thing you ate is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► it's awful but it's hilarious so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► because it's not like you're restricted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► just food no no it's crazy it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► alright so yeah it's just and I did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► reading like I said the new mutants i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► recently went through and reread I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► should do that sometime I ready to do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► reread 1602 video game in which I like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► lot i never read that serious oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► good stick with that don't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► sequel it's good no I read the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► pretty sorry but 16 1602 is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► reward you for having a lot of Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► and knowledge it's like my it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► neil gaiman love letter to the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► Universe put in this hilarious context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► of the traditional hydration and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► it is very well done and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► self-contained it's beautiful and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► not gonna just wonderful but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► some plot twists in it that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► fantastic as well as some fake out plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► twists that are very amusing so i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► recommend it is great it's neil gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► playing with those Marvel characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► a very constrained style you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► you know read the hardcover read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► trade and that's the story and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► all you have is really respectful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► history of the characters of that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► overly differential yeah nice yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► think it sounds great i'm gonna go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► and read that that's it's a it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► one so i reread that the other the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► night and had a blast with ya all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► I think we've done enough damage for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► comma club but we will be back we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► going to do an episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► incomparable pretty soon about watchmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► we're going to talk about the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► comic and what it means to us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► probably won't beat the movie too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► because that would be a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► podcast where we beat the movie to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► and we'll talk about the sequel's or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► prequels or whatever DC is doing next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► watchman they watch the baby's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► come and worship work baby roshan baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► night out who knows what they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► doing but until then I want to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► fellow members of the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► jason reitman thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► thanks for sharing the love and Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► Schmeisser thank you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► it was a delight to have you until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► time on the incomparable podcast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► Jason's no thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaelDo4/3496">TS</a>]