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77: Women`s Libber

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► this is jumping ahead a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► where we are running out of time so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:03 ◼   ► wanna i wanna bring this up we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► go back and do the podcast we will i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/5">TS</a>]

00:00:07 ◼   ► just reset it will just really my lord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► will do it again and you guys what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► will be older but you guys won't be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► older this time I'll just kill Jason in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/14">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► the beginning in a graveyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► thank goodness it'll be a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► podcast i'll solve all of our problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► it says you'll have to the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/21">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 77 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/25">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► everywhere we went well it's time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► another incredible podcast and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► addition of our book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► I'm Jason smell the hosted be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42 ◼   ► uncomfortable our topic today is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/42">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► latest novel from prolific beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► author Stephen King this one is 11 22 63 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► a tale of time travel and and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/59">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► joining me to discuss stephen king's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► latest are Lisa Schmeisser hi Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► good evening it's great to have you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► thank you it's a pleasure to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► also joining us finally on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► podcast serenity Caldwell hai Ram how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you doing I'm doing pretty good how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► you Jason I'm doing great it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► great to finally have you and Lisa both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► on the same podcast now it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► it's here here i wonder if the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► will do something horrible like cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► earthquakes or other nevermind nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► and we'll get that will get out court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► the or or or worse accession of American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► States to Canada were basically said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► that like it's a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► this is true also joining me today are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► John siracusa hi John adjacent you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► huge Stephen King fan are you not i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► i've read almost office blocks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► that's a lot of books right yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► realized i haven't read that many of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► books and I probably should should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► get on that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► yeah I should and also joining us one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► final contestant Dain more'n hi dan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► Jason good to be you just finished this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► book like 10 minutes ago right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► about 20 minutes before this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah it was pretty close i applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► to about 500 pages in the last day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► well the wire so that the the downside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► of that is that who knows what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► recall is going to be like but the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► side is you read it recently at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► he's not just shouting incoherently Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► law gym like oh man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► III have a I read this at my mostly at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► my parents house when I was there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► christmas and i had a I like a nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► about joomla at one point of my god you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► look for a book that's not outwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► like a whore book there some terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► parts of this boat is little moments so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► so I guess we should start at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► beginning of this book obviously 11 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► 63 is the day of the Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► assassination and this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► apparently a book that Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► originally thought about writing in 1971 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► and he didn't get around to it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► 2009-2010 when you read this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► it's about a a teacher in Maine of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► course its main who goes who has a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► who runs a diner who decides he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► a good candidate to go through a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► portal and try to stop the Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► assassination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► of course how many of those books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► we read is-7 and uh and a lot that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/212">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► of it is really interesting because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► um it's very Stephen King it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► so almost pedestrian and yet also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► outrageous at the same time that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► of course there's a guy who has a diner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► where in the storeroom there's a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► portal to the nineteen fifties of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► there is and then but what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► because I don't think about this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► genre for stephen king is that he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► a very good grasp of of time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► mechanics to the point where he the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► know are our main our main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► whose name is Jake Jake epping he he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► much less familiar with Al the the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► who runs the diner analysis with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► because Alice had many years to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► about using Jake as a time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► subject while he was doing his own his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► own time traveling whereas for Jake it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► sort of like he sees al one day and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► the next day Alice many years older and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► is about to die from lung cancer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► hit you know and and so he sends them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► out on this mission to go through go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► through a time portal 2 1958 so we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► the time portal and I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► you're reading a Stephen King novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► you're reading any kind of genre novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► and you take the time portal in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► alright so this time travel got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► and yet one of the things that he hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► you with right away is that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► character there's this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► Yellowcard man just as you emerge from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► this time portal the first thing you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► is this guy who seems to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► something is wrong and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► shouldn't be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► so right away he does set that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► that little point of you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► going to be in a it's not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► completely straight kind of I step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► in time and i'm going to do some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► like right away there's somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► standing there saying crazy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► basically and then and yellow card man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► is trying to get money and so we can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► buy something at the at the local liquor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► store i have i thought one of the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► interesting things they caught me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► Kings time-travel methodology here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► that it's very heavily you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► repeated that every time someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► through the time portal and then it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► basically resets whatever the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► trip did right you can do is go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► change the fastest change the past as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► much as you want and when you come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► to the future it will be changed but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► next time you reenter the bubble it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► reverts hit the reset as you go back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► the same time but yeah go ahead with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► exact same moment that's just such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► smart narrative can see because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► write yourself out of all sorts of sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► of dead ends or logical problems then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► you can just read the reset button we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► need yeah I think that's genius and love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► this it's also fascinating to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► it's so different from a lot of the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► trails of time-travel words you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► know he doesn't have to go back and stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► himself from doing something right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► it's like a family has to be worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► through it and am you know although as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► we find out very much later in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► it's not necessarily a reset more as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► is a fork but but yeah but for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/395">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► practical purposes it's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► residue that's left but for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► practical purposes it's a reset and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► the the downside of that is we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► immediately without where Alice dying of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► lung cancer and al has taken several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► actually it turns out that al has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► getting why is the meat in Alice diner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► so cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► he's been getting in 1915 prices 1958 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► and it keeps buying the same meet over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► and over again because he could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► keeps resetting but now all spent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► much time there that he ages rapidly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► modern standards and yet at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► time he kind of hasn't done anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► because every time he enters its just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► reset so you get the sense right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► up front that you're investing um you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► know you're investing your life in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► time travel and if it doesn't work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► the way you like it will be thrown away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► right and it's also important to note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► that no matter how long you're gone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► you're only ever gone two minutes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► from the present you know when when Jake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► steps back through the time portal he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► only been gone a very short while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► the same way that a lonely appears to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► away for you know tonight or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► and it comes back in his you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► five years older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► this would have been a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► book if he had written it back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► seventies compared to when he wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► and he was lazy and and addicted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► drugs and alcohol back then so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► wouldn't know what are you survive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► not quite that what I was gonna say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► if he had written in the seventies it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► would have ended up being more epic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► scope like the stand i think because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► stan has this real young man's energy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► it i feel this this very brash very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► black-and-white good versus evil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► this book is so nuanced when it compares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► to what is the greater good vs water all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► the small goods how do we decide what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► good and what's evil and like he has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► problem drawing those lines and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► those distinctions in his earlier work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► but you get to something like under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► dome or 11 22 63 and there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► questions about well how do we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► the actions we take her good when we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► see that the consequences and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► outcomes are bad and it has a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► middle-aged i'm i'm taking stock of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► life feel to it just just as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► undercurrent which is kind of disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► when you think that the protagonist is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► somebody in their late thirties early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► forties he has an arc as an author but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► think the be the beginning of this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► it i think this is stephen king and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► best where he has the the time-travel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► doesn't explain that and I got all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► you know I there's some sort of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► things like an experiment in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► government experiment out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► without explanation is it bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► isn't this mechanical I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► there's no explanation because it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► we know you don't get distracted by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► formal logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► yeah we realigned in the book where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► talks about where a Jake talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► going back to teaching and how much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► fills of me says I won't try to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► it because explanation is such cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► poetry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/560">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► yeah that for that caught me on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► to say it's a great line and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► like well you know it's sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► resonates with this book to we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► need to know why the time travel works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► only that it does and it's got its got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► hint of whimsy to it as well because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► loves he loves a little bit of whimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► like that that selling the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► hamburger to the people over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► again that's the classic Stephen and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► whole how heat so he doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► explain it but how we lovingly describes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► the mechanics of feeling for the step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► and going down through that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► straight-up stephen king at his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► later on the book i'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► stephen king is worst I and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► hint of the slightly older stephen king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► is the yellow card man because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► it's kind of weird i don't have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► nearly as many books as most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► other people who are normal a book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► contributors but the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► novels that I've rather probably stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► king books and he's written a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► books where and when you read this many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► novels by a single author and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► if you're not as well read where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► not like one of many authors that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► read like all their novels I i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► i'm sure many of his is constant readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► feel like they know this guy and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► his bag of tricks i feel like i know its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► bag of tricks and he knows that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► that he knows you know what i mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► so it's kind of like this dance or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► like reading a stephen king book is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► kind of sitting down with an old friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► you're going to do this thing together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► and I continue to get that feeling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► this book and the beginning part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► kind of like you remember this part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► like yeah yes the good stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► listen this time travel stuff with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► resets and the rules and in the yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► card man it's like all right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/654">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► that's an oldie but he's you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► seen that before what I'm doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► again all right i'm good i'm with you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► it was it got off on the right foot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► think all right also though I guess even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I noticed that there by visiting dairy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► which is a town that he's used before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► that this is apparently an it reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► right all there's a i was about to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► it is a beautiful call back to the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► universe which is a beautiful but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/674">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► somebody who has not read it and and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► to look it up later just because it I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► was curious about what he might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► referencing there I i think i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► dairy stuff i mean i knew that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► it was in Derry that it that's a town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► that he's visited in many of his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► but you know it the dairy stuff more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► less work for me because the idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► that he's chasing down this first this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► character who sort of the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► kid the the janitor at his scoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► Dunning yeah who is who was a head as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► siblings and mother killed by his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/710">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► and and got the hammer you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► stuff with the where there's the storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► drain and there's evil in the town isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► very friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► that's actually I can just say I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► that was effectively creepy without you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► thinking that it was a reference to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► book i did I i agree definitely and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► like Jason I haven't read yet but i knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► a little bit about it from again for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► dark tower but I i looked up some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► think what's important about it even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/738">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► you haven't read it is that there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► much in there that sort of ate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► foreshadowing of dairy and dallas which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► you know keeps coming up those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► cities are linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► I'm your book depository in the storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► drain and even Beverly and and Richie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► and later on in the book we have that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► Mike and Bobby Jill who are sort of sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► of parallels there's also you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► fact that when when Jake first comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► upon a bevy and Richie they're dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► right which is a u.s. huge part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► book constantly coming up and I sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► think yeah he likes tying stuff in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► think there's a there's a certain degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► of that that's that's rewarding for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► lot of readers I love finding you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► modules and references in books from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► authors that refer to previous things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► you know it's a part of the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► love reading series of books so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► because there's a continuity to it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► think even if you aren't familiar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► depth with that particular work i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► with Jason that it's it's effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► creepy to hold the whole Gary scenes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► know that I just really they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► places that are sold with bad juju yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► yeah all this money and it's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► eerie i was reading it a night like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► before with the bed nose like man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► don't really want to go to sleep creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► book i'm surprised that dairy section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► work so well for you who didn't who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► haven't read it because that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► was thinking when I was reading and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► like okay I get this because i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43 ◼   ► another thousand-page book but pity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► more people who you know need the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► people who don't know I I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► think the two kids who are apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► characters in it i think our are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► effective in that they are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/834">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► find some sort of life and are obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► struggling against some darkness in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► terrible town and I find I and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► the dancing which it becomes relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► later and that the sense that this town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► is permeated by unfriendliness and evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► and then you know moving on from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► references part of this to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► the dairy section of this book is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► Jake's first first run at changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/855">TS</a>]

00:14:21 ◼   ► history where he ended and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23 ◼   ► foreshadows what's going to happen which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► is he is very careful to wait until he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► has all the information possible to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► know he has his run-ins with game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► there's an underworld types which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► going to come back later he he has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► trial run where he waits to the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► minute to try and intercede and prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the government father for killing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► mother and the kids and he does all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► that and goes back and then resets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► does it again and what's interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► instead of being there at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► where this thing is going to happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► order to intercede when he goes back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► next time he sort of got all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► information he needs he realizes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► the father is just a bad guy and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► going to kill his whole family except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► the one kid and he just he goes to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► months before and in like a desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► graveyard and just killed him rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► than defending the people he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► decided I'm gonna go back which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► is interesting but he goes through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► of this and then hit the reset button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► and decides I didn't need all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► information this guy's just a bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► i'm just going to do what he's done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► the research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► yeah he wanted to be sure which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► happens with Lee Harvey Oswald is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► jake wants to be sure that there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► somebody there's not a conspiracy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► it's just this one guy right one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► Al makes that very clear he's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► have to be absolutely sure because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► happens if you screw up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► president still get shot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► everything still goes to hell or well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► doesn't quite jell with the present but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► what we all assume that the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► killed his family he wanted to be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► because he's like geez I'm like killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► this guy yea he's a bad guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► everything but like is he really gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► kill his family and like is he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► he pissy had to commit you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► easy to work it's not easy to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► yourself up to kill somebody right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► not until he gets confirmation that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► already killed one family that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► actually gets the gumption to go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► and pull the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► yeah it's not your first time employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► witnesses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► I'm once again also have surprised that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► it works well for everybody else but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► people who have read it as Lisa was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► saying there's extra residents to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► characters because you know I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► to spoil it for people didn't read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► but it's not that you're not meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► I after the events of the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you're not meeting before the events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► that you're basically meeting them amid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► steam at events of the book and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► a sadness to that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► you wouldn't get it unless you read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► other thousand-page book or read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► wikipedia entry on remember that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► thing with someone's mindedness there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► a creepiness to that I want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► it that's all the projects but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► yeah I using dairy is a character named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► King loves inanimate things as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► characters houses afterwards towns towns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► characters and dairy was a character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► this book and I think it helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► it's a kind of a cheap but it helped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► dairy beat at not their help Dallas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► become more character because analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► has not been heavily featured in past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► books but comparing it to dairy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► like oh Jesus is like the dairy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► South already move you've already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► primed you know you've got a frame of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► reference that makes it easier to sketch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► it out a little bit as opposed to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► to go through and frankly do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► research the best story and well i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► Stephen King does a very good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► personifying every single town that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► visit in the past and makes it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► clear this is this type of town in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► ka in some ways the people we talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► and the kite like getting the Sun liner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► in the very first little town in Maine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► you instantly get the picture that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► of place and dairy you start to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► creepy time-travel ish stuff and dairy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► and how things can go wrong in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► obdurate past and that kind of carries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► over i feel like it snowballs as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► from town to town to town but he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► really really great personification of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► each town the difference between Jody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► dallas and for even for were or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► yeah they're all very clear pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19 ◼   ► each city despite i mean i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► i've been to I've been to dallas very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► briefly but aside from that you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► very clear picture of how he wants these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► towns to look at this point in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► yeah I let's let's move ahead then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► Jodi to Texas and and specifically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► the small town where he becomes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► English teacher and I guess he's briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► in Florida but you know that really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► important doesn't work out that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► work out now and get the sense of he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► needs to move on before the final and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► it's a good experience of showing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► this time travel thing he doesn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► a knack of it yet like he's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► enough to get out of there alive but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► realizes he kind of messed up yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► always learning the ropes of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► time-travel think he's only beginning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► understand what he doesn't know and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► cleverly by setting the time portal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► 1958 Stephen King makes the not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► cranks up the UH that the jeopardy of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► messing up because you have to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► through five years in order to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► the date of the assassination but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► also gives him time to have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► character moved to this town and meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► these people because really that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► what the book is about this is the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► is about this guy and the relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► that he makes in the past and while he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► got the this mission of his from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► future hanging over his head so I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► know I think this is a really charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► section where you've got these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► and you know he's meeting all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► the people at the school in in in Jodi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► and he sort of accidentally becomes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► entwined with their their lives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► their culture than he's really intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► because he's thinking I'm you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► gonna lay low i'm from the future i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► here on a mission and of course he ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► up being completely intertwined in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► in the life of this small town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► because it is a small town and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► nothing he can do about it and he and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► gets to know all these people and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► falls in love with the do the new school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► librarian who is Sadie and you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► really like this part III this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► to be one of those things that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► depending on what you want out of a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► like this you may view this as being I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► don't know I i think people might view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► this as being an interminable section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► where he's really not advancing his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► mission very much and instead he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► getting to know the people but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► actually love this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► I think if you think that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► reading is there something wrong read ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► heart the whole point of the segment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► to is to set up his personal stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► because remember out picked him because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► he like well Jake you have nobody here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► you have no attachments you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► lightly on this town anyway no one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► really going to miss you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► and then he goes back to the past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► there are all of a sudden a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► people who know about him and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► welfare and they won't miss them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► they will care and unfortunately this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► this develops right around the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► that he's got to start surveilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► Oswald and carrying out an assassination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► and I think it raises the dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► sticks and also shows what other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► whatever growth he's going to have as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► protagonist over the course of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► to its it's absolutely necessary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► also sets up that you know I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► manages to be a rather heartbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► story in in many ways right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► yeah that the the final chapter oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► even even even before that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► part where you guys talking it I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► yeah i was there that I mean it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► be an easy that invested right in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► for you to feel strongly about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► characters and like these carrots well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► meanwhile the clock is ticking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► right i mean that's the great beauty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► beauty is you've got this nice story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► that on it on its own would be a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► story but we know where Jake is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► from you know when we do know that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► kind of a rootless guy and he had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► alcoholic wife they got divorced from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► nice there's nobody to miss him and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► now he's putting down roots and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► making these connections and that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► be a nice story but you've got the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► is 11 22 63 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► the clock is ticking and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► for him to fulfill his mission that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► that everything is going to be there he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► can't you know that there's an a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► expiration date on his relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► with these people which is makes it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► much more affecting for this longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► the reason I think it needs to be longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► like this and you thought maybe see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► people think it was interminable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► because it's it is the equivalent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► movie where you have the cowboy go live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► with the Indians or even something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► avatar whatever he's on a mission but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► the mission takes a long time and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► to become integrated with these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► during the mission and he goes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► comparison for building the barn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► witness the heart of heaven Costner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► Dances with Wolves he goes native and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► yeah the long term missions it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► stay on mission for a long time so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► ends up is I'm integrating into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► native population and learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► and then eventually you you wake up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► you're Kevin Costner and you're wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► a feather on your head or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► may be you know you've actually John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► you've actually raised i'm not even sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► I called a criticism is just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► that tickle the back of my head is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► have somebody who's in the early forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► who is now accustomed to world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► instantaneous wireless connectivity with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the internet and and a world of cable TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► and everything that entails to and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► flung backwards to a time where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► don't have that many choices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► entertainment and you are stuck with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► periodic to hear you're stuck with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► card catalog the library if you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► find something and it's just a radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► different way of living and this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► seems to seamlessly acclimate well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► don't have seamlessly do I i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► think that Stephen King does a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► good job throughout of depicting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► about neither saying oh it was a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► time a simpler time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► no I'm not saying that it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► just rather he lives really easily in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► period and and perhaps just speaks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► the people i know who go into cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► sweats if they don't if they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► internet access for 24 he does he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► throw his phone and a pond it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► a ceremonial dumping of I i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► personality type that because he's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► he's an English teacher remember he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► not a tech nerd he's not even a geek of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► any kind you all these people who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► boy I think I would be happier in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► simpler time out for some of them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► think it's true it's just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► exhausting trying to remember that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► can never talk about the Carolina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► Panther also keep in mind the gym that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► uh that al al leaves him a a big file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► with his research in it which is stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► king's way of not having him have whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► scenes where he's incredibly frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► by trying to remember things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► happening or doing even more research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► using archaic research techniques sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► of just as there's a file so let's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► doesn't need to do all that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► need another the other thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► really really interesting about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► I thought about what while reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► is sorta jumps around glosses over parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► right you know there are a couple points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► was like I was here for a while that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► left here from well I left and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► well that's weird you know like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► really how much of this like closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► we're going to get various points here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► but what's important to consider and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► sort of start to get hints for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► that this is all written by him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39 ◼   ► after the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► right yeah it makes several references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► to the unfinished manuscript and oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► you're reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► yeah exactly that's totally a dress to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► people it's totally his recollections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► it right and so we learned at a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► specific point in the book that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► hasn't been as good at blending in as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► thought he was right so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► that significant in terms of him as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► narrator in that not that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► unreliable precisely but that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► ready for my vantage point of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► not like as these things are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► to him right and so he does think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► you know it does seem like he blends in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► really well and certainly there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► things that he takes two very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► this in this environment but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► you do get hints of the things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► regresses a couple times was like God I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► would have killed for have a cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► right now because I really would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► solved my problem it's and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► the fact that he that he is telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► from some sort of you know after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► fact perspective is is very significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► in terms of how we see his character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► the only thing that kind of tickled at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► me through the jodi sequence as well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► first and forgive the clumsy phrasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► its kind of the a white male privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► you are so convenient but I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► that's about it it's like I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► guess I thought that was a realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► yeah you know there's there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► the throw a reference to oh there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► the one gas station i stopped where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► those poor colored people had to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► their way through a thicket of poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► oak and gopi over a stream while I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► to use the restroom but right but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► also been judging right that's also i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► saying this is beating but but by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► large it doesn't affect him directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► well but he accepts the other parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the experience because he's like I well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► I am a white male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► so really for a white male privilege how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► convenient URL was not gonna send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► black woman back in time to that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► but because not so much like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► privilege heat because he's insulated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► the privilege I i guess from a narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► perspective it makes it very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► because then you can sidestep authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► questions like sure life was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► if you're white and male but you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► your if your sale single white female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► who couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► can get her own line of credit yeah 1860 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► how easy or how hard would it have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► to be someone like Sadie or if you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► african-american man they still had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► camera it's called the green pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► the green book but up until very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► recently in the u.s. there was a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► that actually published a directory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► african-american friendly businesses for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► traveling african-american families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► because you were talking about a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► when people could be turned away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► hotels and restaurants nearby have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► right Stephen King and the good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► about this is he doesn't shy away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► it and he has Jake basically I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► that's one of the things that he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► notices is that is as idyllic as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► life is he that this is this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► appreciate is that he King shows both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► sides there are things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► simplistic you know why for the simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► life of that time that he appreciates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► and they're things that are bad and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► know it's just different and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► about our good and thinks about her bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► when we leave Jody and we see him on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► mission spending time in Fort Worth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► then in Dallas you know he's showing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► very different kind of environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► that's a really kind of a miserable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► unfriendly environment this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► environment that lee harvey oswald is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► living well and I think he doesn't gloss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► over how hard it is to be you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► unattached female right like well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► say that he has not had things easy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► know and i think he goes into a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► detail about that and about just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► miserable her life has been in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► and I think that's you know she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► great character I honestly I know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► doesn't do a great job of amplifying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► social pressures and how they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► undermine near your support networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► because say to you remember after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► Sadie's the incident that shapes city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► for the subsequent remainder of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► narrative her mother comes out after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► having carpooled with her attackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► parents my mother comes out and upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► her for four controllers and she's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► get fired from her job because she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► attacked and I can't you can't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► that was that was the killer for me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► that the part where I'm like all come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► that they really with this really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► someone has attacked and disable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► school board's gotta fire announced too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► much of a scandal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► oh yeah oh yeah absolutely plus I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► of believe that from a small town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► respective I kind of beliefs and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► they're in town abs label yeah I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► Oh given that I i feel like i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► think sadie is a great character and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► think you know if you don't fall over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► there at least a little bit while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► reading this then you probably aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► you know our talk to probably dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► you're probably dead inside but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► you know they're I i think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► without making it a book that's overly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► about look how awful racism was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► South in you know the fifties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► sixties which you know there could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► been a book there there's never an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► answer anybody's yessir many books when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► he could have written that book but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► know it was not that book and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► he does you know the references to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► might seem a little glancing but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► they do inform a lot of what the setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► of this book is and part of what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► for example Dallas such a disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► town in many ways is this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► pervading element of that even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► not something that we're constantly beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► over the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► I'm actually impressed at how little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► like the helmet few references to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► politics of the age and all of that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► manages to slide in but still managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► paint the overall picture of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► towns and the way society was at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► point in time because I mean you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► have with a with a book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► Kennedy assassination you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► gone much more deeply into the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► Harvey Oswald thing instead you get kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► of a third-party perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► leaflets and you hear a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► conversations when Jake's listening on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► the omnidirectional microphone but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► the whole there's not a lot of yes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► is how people were feeling this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► people hate you know the president this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► is what why people love the present you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► skip a lot of that the other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► the Cuban Missile Crisis which is an a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► nice little worried a little bit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► you get that sense of living through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► and he's living through it realizing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► upsetting it is two people at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► and you know he knows how it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► hey but they don't but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► really mean that that's that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► that's the one that struck me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► that he's watching as as people lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► through that and they're very upset on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► the sexism thing one last time i'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► they did the one on one aspect of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► thought that illuminated Jake's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► character and I don't even know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► intentional notice that so Jake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► from the future and he's having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► relationship with past lady and passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► lady for all her modernity still is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► product of the gender roles of her time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► and I thought that Jake seemed a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► bit too okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► like that he's yeah you know it's ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► but I you would think when I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► this I'm thinking boy if I was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► future and I was dealing with a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► who was like this I would constantly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► saying you know you have rights and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► shouldn't you be trying to turn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► into the river and liver because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► you don't want to put on like not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► sometimes to you know it's so quite to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► hear the phrase women's liver it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► to fall into the role of like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► know what hey this is kind of nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► she defers to me it makes me food and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► that like you're planning a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► yeah that's damning to jakes character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► or just a general you know the male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► characters like intellectually you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► know it's wrong but when you're in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► environment you have someone who's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► happy to serve you and you're like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► you know what i find it and that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► thought that was a great comment it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► whether it was intentional or not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► know and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► Oh white male privilege you are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► convenient yeah responsive think Jake's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► a good guy but he he doesn't he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► protest too much about that although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► could just stay here forever and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► Kennedy be assassinated and lick this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► awesome life that I found with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► people right and yeah and not worry too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► much about like Sadie I want you to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► away from your horrible former husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► but don't you know it's okay if you stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► kind of like 50-60 woman you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► don't have to go fully up to believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42 ◼   ► your equal human being with me as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► as you don't ask me to do the dishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► baby whenever he so so what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► one of the things that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► throughout his trip his travels in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► past is this sense that the the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► doesn't want to be changed right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► want to see what does he call it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► the obdurate out here after after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► passed which I really liked that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► we've seen that in time travel stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► before but I i really like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► that there will be some degree you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► of of resistance from the past and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► the conflict in the story isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► necessarily you know jake versus lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► harvey oswald it's like jake versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► history right vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► the timeline versus what actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► happened and he has to try and overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► what actually happened and there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► lot of kind of nice moments where I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► know terrible things happen to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► especially when he's rushing to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► get to dealey plaza on the day of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► one ridiculous thing after another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► unbelievable the obstacles that history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► keeps throwing it sits like a final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► destination movie at that point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► it's like everything is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► wrong yeah but I love in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► instances of the book they're very you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► know he's very frustrated by the object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► passes like i'll keep continually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► hitting up against a wall and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► through fog but on that day they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► basically just like gap the past is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► gonna try and stop us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► let's just roll with it it isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► their didn't really feel like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► any snakes until you actually got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► the building where as in previous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► when we had the runs it was kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► you know when you when you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► you're you know skating on marbles or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► whatever it's like is there's no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► option right now you just gotta go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► it you just gotta roll that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► yeah plus the biggest source of internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► tension for him was gone because he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► managed to convince say that he wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► raving lunatic he was in fact the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► from the future meant to kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► president the future and what she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► okay with that and you convince himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► that oswald was the only deserve to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► got ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► honestly I think I wish he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► shot Oswald mom too because she was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► a piece of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► oh my gosh so penetrating Oswald is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► fascinating because you know i i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► sure how how clearview people have Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► Harvey Oswald as it as with many books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► that we've discussed on this on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► this podcast I'm not sure with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► whether you know I he did a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► research for this so I'm gonna just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► assume that I learned some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► things about sort of how Lee Harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► Oswald came to be and his and his you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► know and I thought that was fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► to get a little idea of this guy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► and to see you can kind of see how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► ended up the way he he did but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► not to say that you really have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► sympathy for you know what's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► freaky was was reading you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► reading the book last night and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► maybe halfway through at that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► talking about a house walls and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► family and it suddenly occurs to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► his daughter must still be alive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► and his wife are like Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► wife isn't really good he's going i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► i know i don't like his wife is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► but that kind of struck me was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► because I'd forgotten that i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► a historical fiction book that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► but that is about real PDF and so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► kind of there was a bizarre moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► like you know going to bed last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► and read the book and suddenly realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► i mean this isn't entirely fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► this is a lot of this is no factual so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► one of the things again given that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► book is called 11 22 63 i think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► the interesting effects that I felt as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► read it was as it got started I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► excited about oh he's gonna go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► time and what's gonna happen one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► mechanics of him changing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► interceding in the in the assassination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► and what's that gonna mean and i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► after he left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► Jody and was focused entirely on Dallas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► as the events got closer that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► struck that I was not as interested as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► was in a it in Jake's life and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► interpersonal relationships and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► funny and he's piece put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► they're all they're all constrained or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► they're all that you know he's having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► problems in his relationship with Sadie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► at that point and he sort of falling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► with the people because they found out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► that he falsified his his records as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► do when you're a time traveler but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► did anybody else have that have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► feeling like by the time I got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► real in-depth like the research and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► imaginations about Oswald Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► had taken me all the way around to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► this book that i started reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► was a about the Kennedy assassination by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► the time it got to the mechanics of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► Kennedy assassination I kind of wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► to just go back to the guy who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► teaching English in the small town in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► Texas you kind of know going into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► book that even if he does succeed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► preventing Kennedy's assassination it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► not going to be for the better and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► idea kind of builds up steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► subconsciously and so the stakes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► kind of gone when you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► whereas everything he does and Jody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► that's a whole blank slate why he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► reset it if it doesn't work out but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► can never reset his life right he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► experiencing the stakes are so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► higher for him when their personal then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► want this big abstract save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► cheerleader save the world type mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► and anyone who's read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► anyone who's a fan of alternate history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► or alternate fiction tends to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► these authorial exercises are usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► predicated on the notion that history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► has worked out for the best and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► book is is really no exception to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► so you kind of go into that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► bedrock premise throwing in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► your mind and then the question just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► becomes ok how is king going to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► himself out of this where you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► okay with the fact that he has to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► Kennedy died and i think he I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► pulls out a very tidy ending but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► fact is that shooting the president has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► the those have far lower dramatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► personal stakes to somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► invested in Jake and Jody the town then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► you know the the dramatics takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► inherent in what goes on between Jake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► and Sadie and save his crazy ex and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► town of Jody you know I mean I could to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► be frank I couldn't have cared less if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► it can be got shot or didn't get shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► I've got a lot more interesting isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► is funny that we get to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► though and I think that says something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► that's about the effectiveness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► story of the king is telling us by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► time i get to i get to Oswald I'm more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► concerned about how dealing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► assassination is going to affect Jake's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► life about the course of of of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► whether whether or not it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► out and and and he ends up discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► that that it isn't this assumption that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► Alice made that it's going to be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► with Kennedy living may not be true so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► you know so yeah so I i never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► made the case for why Kennedy should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► saved like it was half-hearted was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► we got out i'll make the case to Jake to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► convince him like this is an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► thing to do and Jake goes yeah but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► know well would that really made a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► difference in our low know what I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► big difference in these kids will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► dying in Vietnam and and we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► all this then you must be dying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► nuclear holocaust and such like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► it's not much of a case like he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► made the case to the reader i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that's valid in some ways right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► al kills himself before Jay can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► nail it down right and in some ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► Spurs Jake into action without really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► thinking well is this really worth doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► or not he's just sort of pushed along by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► yeah I think I think you needed I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► had that beginning section of the book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► Jake to do what Jake did I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► would have needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► stronger motivation was provided to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► so by the end when the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► comes along obviously we're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► invested in a local story and we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► you know what I wasn't convinced that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► did decade was worth saving that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► make a big difference and Jake didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► seem that convinced them it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► think it's a failure of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► motivation of the plots successful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► that we like Jake's new story and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► personal stakes more important but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► a kind of a failure that it's not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► turnaround from this really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► motivation to save JFK cause I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► very early on and maybe it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► because like Lisa said you know this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► know this is not going to be i'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► them and everything will be better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► know that's not gonna happen so well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► think there's this idea that pervades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► pop culture or at least pop-culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50 ◼   ► million baby boomers have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► stripe that that's the key phrase I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► think if only Kennedy had lived this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► golden era of Camelot would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► continued through 1968 and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► would have skipped hands as they walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► into the yeah everyone skip would skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► hands they walked into the peace corps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► and the war on poverty would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► affected and civil rights would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► happened painlessly blah blah blah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► so because Kennedy died everyone sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► that this sort of helpful baby boomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► Rob productive alternate future going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► it's the flashpoint theory right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► that's the idea that there is a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► event that causes all these ripples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► whereas i think was fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► baby through in the Ray Bradbury's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► sound of thunder know where is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► the idea of this originating idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32 ◼   ► this butter the butterfly effect whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► you know in theory in this time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► universe it's it's just as important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► it's like Kennedy dying is just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► important as I'm stepping on a butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► depending on how you look at it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► because they both have ripples it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► a question of what what they they touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► but I think to John's point that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► Stephen King being older than us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► having lived through this and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► resonance that I think is suggested and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► that Allah be asleep feels and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► Stephen clearly feels that having lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► through it that that of course people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► think oh if only Kennedy had lived I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► think it's because we're more cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► and that generation became cynical when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► the president was assassinated that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► like the end of the innocence for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► generation I think you take that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► given that the reason that stephen king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► he does a little bit of work to say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► now here's why it's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► Kennedy we should not be assassinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► but you know he can he goes in with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► little stronger implicit kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► assumption that you know of course we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► all feel like you know what would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► happened and it would have been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► because then things got got you know got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► that whereas those of us who didn't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38 ◼   ► through that look back in like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► with that would have been or wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► matter and you get cynical everything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► don't we don't buy that line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► reasoning about to be another reason not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► to buy it is when you look at the cycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► of human history or cultural history no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► one idea ever pops up in isolation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► ideas get replicated across cultures in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► certain time periods all the time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► even if Kennedy had been a precipitating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► event towards this generational shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► into hippie demand Vietnam and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05 ◼   ► so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► even if he had lived something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► would have prodded idea people seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► forget that Richard Nixon was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► be successful politician the sixties no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► matter what so 11 sad thing i think last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► thing I know one thing that bothered me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► is a when Jake emerges from the portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► back into the future after he's done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► this and lived this life we see that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► we've as we've set up to this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► there isn't a good future that after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► he's changed the past and safe Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► there are all these earthquakes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► know nuclear war and the mean is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► part of canada and there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► power they only power a few days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► they're hoodlums who were running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► with the islands in Canada this can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► teenage hoodlums in canada and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► one of my problems with it is is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► mind the fact that there's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► quick recap of history from that point 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► 2011 i don't i don't mind that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► that is sort of not the point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► book to to detail the old history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► what's happened since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► what bothers me is it feels it felt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► me kinda like a cop out that the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► that he changes the past there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► earthquakes and you know count there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► giant earthquake in Los Angeles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► things like that get that it wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► the past that he changed it was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► and also this reason you broke the users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► reinforces tearing their at the part so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► it's like well I might have worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► it's not like an alright time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► story it's like what you did change its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► like what you did and by the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► quakes and stuff that are and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► earthquakes should be that I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► have seen the argument that Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► would have not made the letter table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► was impeached if he had right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► I don't think that's important i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► don't think that the Kennedy factor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► it is it is important at all what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► talking about it to say that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► it's not so much that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► ok yes he stopped me from being killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► and that was a big change but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► the fact that you know there's also this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► cumulative effect that they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► talking about the end right if so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► things that I've gotten changed so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► has gotten out of balance with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► vowels trips back and forth is the meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► hamburger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► well that's alright and we say it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► yellow card man is bonkers it's been 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► years of beef so everything the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► reality is unstable and again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► not to hurt by too much but if you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► know there isn't there is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► residence with the dark tower here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► whereas there's this idea of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► sort of shaking itself apart because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37 ◼   ► people keep screwing with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► yeah I would have loved to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► earthquake-type things happening earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► on where you get the idea that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► is slowly falling apart rather than 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► the second JFK guys and right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► Sadie dies everything goes to hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► la falls off the coast to have he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► it on a horse race in the horse that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► knows is the winner of the Triple Crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► breaks its leg right now and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► oh geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► wait a second something is not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► right a little bit he comes back five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► years which isn't it well you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► gotta wait five years which is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► to the whole plot of the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► everything but realistically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► realistically speaking at a time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► story if you if you put a single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► from the future into the past five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► on there is no way that lee harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► oswald get that same apartment at JFK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► had it goes to dallas at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► he drives in the convertible was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► that's honest there's no way because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► the the changes of I mean it's debatable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► that even if you blink that guy into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► existence for three secondary tap one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► guy in the shoulder in florida and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► disappeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► there's no way those people in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► spot well that's where the obdurate plat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► maps comes in and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► it's how you define you have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► correcting effect because you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► otherwise things will become a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► you know the hamburger meat not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► available would be enough rushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► everything freaks out right on his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► trip back when he starts like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► I mean what have I done just by buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► you know a shirt or taking is randy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► found he was right but ya again once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► again there's this unseen force that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► know whatever this this this forces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► since the King loves doing this he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► calls the god or anything or tries not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► to call it God but it's just like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► except at the end of the stand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► unseen force that's its handmade it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► it's him the writer real like a light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► motif through all of his workers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► there are forces beyond your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► comprehensive and that 20 of you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► they had and they have a purpose in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► a plot you know I think the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► that's sort of subtle here that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► it's brought up towards the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► book but i think it's interesting is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► just the obdurate pass but the object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► itself whereas in theory right Jake says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► well I can just go back and fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► everything I did wrong the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► it's just too bad your shoulder right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► exactly and but i don't know about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► but like you know in some ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► might feel like a cop-out but in this he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► decides he can't do it and I felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► weight of that yeah it makes you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► tired you just read all these pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00 ◼   ► well I I'm not just that but i can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► about all that he has been through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► all having to go through and change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► past but he can't change his life he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► living his life and that cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► erased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► you know he he has to live with the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that he lived those five years and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► can eat can hit the reset button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► universe that doesn't matter he felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► like I was on memory and and and saw her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► be horribly wounded men killed by lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► harvey oswald ouch i was done i was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► of rooting for him to go to Groundhog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► Day it in the beginning of the book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► micah it'll be neat if you did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► groundhog day think i'm gonna became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► clear that he was going to do a 1 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► iteration groundhog and dairy and I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► how many pages took him to do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► realized there's not enough room Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► to do it for the rest but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► perfectly happy for him to Groundhog Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► the whole book now see that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► work for me live years when you gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► crazy after your number I was not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► that that Stephen King was going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► and say so i decided that since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► couldn't change the past i would just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► back and meet all those people and live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► my life in that little town in Texas no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► I mean iterations like more than once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► right like five just like Groundhog's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► Day where the first time it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► time and that's a very different book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► yeah right lost all the weight it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► have lost all the emotional weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► yeah I will say there's a point at after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► city dies where he is considering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► Jason was like well just you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► could just go back and live in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► and ignore JFK and all of that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► yeah but that that moment when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► contemplating that you is the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► just kind of think oh gosh she has I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► mean can you imagine having to you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► through the beginning of the Sadie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► relationship in the middle of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► relationship and all of that and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► to go through all those steps again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► also because you see in the first town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► in Maine where you know that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► basically playing through a script if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► you can you imagine having to relive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► through some of these moments and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► basically feel like you're on script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► yeah you will be able to do it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► because you're watching doom little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► children and that he wouldn't fall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► love with him thats that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► not just because the older but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► wouldn't have loved him because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► wouldn't have been the same person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► yeah well I wouldn't know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► that would happen right so you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► you just you know living through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► changes he was a person you're not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► to have that romantic like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► you're not ready to make the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► that's the key of the book right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► can't go back and change the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► because it's already been lived through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► it that way you know that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► the that's the conclusion that he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► to write this are already happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► some ways I can't make it happen again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► even if i'm not seeing it from like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► first person perspective so i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► let it be and he you know he makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► huge decision at a certain point to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► you know do I save you I go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► spend all the time with love my life or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► do I essentially you know take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52 ◼   ► sacrifice and save the larger you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► save the world at large as such as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► so in a in a previous podcast i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► the it might have been there Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► Stephenson podcast I I said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:05 ◼   ► negative about Stephen King which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► I I I said that you know stylistically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► thought that there are plenty of writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► who have sort of more more flair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► more style than Stephen King and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► know he is not a showy writer he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► workman like he has he has a style all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► the all his own but it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► recognizable you could give me a page a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► Stephen King and I bet without any name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► on it and I bet you I could figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► that it was Stephen King because he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► have a style but what struck me in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► story is he he is a great storyteller he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► oh yeah he is that the thing that sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► him apart is it mean he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► interesting world building and he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► an interesting perspective and his style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► is kind of interesting but he is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► great storyteller this this story these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► characters i was absolutely engrossed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► in in this story and so although people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► i think beat up Stephen King because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► had such success and he sold so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► books any rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► he's written so many books is John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► Lisa can attest he he he really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► remarkable at spinning a story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► making you want to follow absolutely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► will go blue in the face defending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► stephen king's a craftsman because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► think he's a master of the storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► craft I I think he has a I think he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► think he thinks long and hard about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► best way to tell a story that's meant as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► a good word for two because I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► if you read on writing which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► excellent book anybody who are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► should read it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► yes but craftsman also in this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► he is not going to be the most poetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► right he of writers he is not he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► have that he has a workmanlike in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► way a craftsman you know he is a crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► crafter of stories and of language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► he knows what he's doing and he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► very good job of it and that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► to be looked down on because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► lots of people who've written lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► highfalutin pros that has beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► fragments and beautiful sentences and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► and it falls apart as terrible as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► whole thing right thinking it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► superb grasp on on the language that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► chooses an individual word choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► because he I know a lot of people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► he's worthy but he does a great job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► one or two well-turned sentences that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► will remain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► your brain indelible um I find his word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► choices to actually quite economical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► sometime and very very evocative I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► he's not going to be one of these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29 ◼   ► pro stylist where you fall to your knees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► and reference over the the the whale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► his his words it's like poetry and art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► of angels wept you know but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► instead you can you can actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► these people and hear them the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► your head as you have nothing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► no that's fantastic you know he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► use flashy words but he doesn't tells a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► good story and stuff like that I and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► example comes up from the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► literature is like Hemingway very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► writing right but he was you know it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► can get a lot of a few simple words are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► with stephen king of the complaint does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► not so much that you're not so much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► like Hemingway is just that he's corny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► that is you know kind of ham-fisted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► corny and number Donna thing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► classic old-school Stephen King people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► like yeah but that's kinda like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► don't but you don't buy into that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► into it so the passage that highlighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► here is it's corny I it's cliche and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► it's like Adam when i read it I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► he didn't make that up because I must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► have read that before because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► corny and it's so cliche but the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► of stephen king and the reason why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► think is actually a quite a good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► in his own way I ignoring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► storytelling entirely is that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► get you to a point with all his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► skills and tools to wear this corny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► cliche thing that you swear you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► before like a Hallmark greeting card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► wraps around it wraps all the way around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► the corner meter and pops back up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► like emotional resonance and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► that how did he even do that and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► is towards the end of the book it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► sentences where he's a he's writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► about how everything has ended with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► Sadie and everything like that he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► hearts don't really break if only they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► could in isolation if you have not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► this book you like this guy's an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► red come on it's not really they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► but when i read that line like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► me he he managed he manages to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► line that line their work because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► everything that's built around it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► you know it allows you to disable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► part of your mind that's going to shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► that those students sentences down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► lasers and say this is not good writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► sir you need to think hard about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► you're going to right now because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► think if hearts could break them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► you'd be out of your misery I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► a cliché is a hallmark card it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► terrible home with its it's cheap it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► cheap insight right it's a cheap insight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► but he really earned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► yeah I'm right and I highlighted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► passage unlike you got me heartbroken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► character who has lived through this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► get to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► mmm the key to this book and we've lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► through and we lived it within no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► found the key it's the last page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► actually um this is the this is the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► i highlighted where it says she is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► dream and so am i like all sweet dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► will be brief but brevity make sweetness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► doesn't it yes i think so because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► the time is gone you could never get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► yeah this is a graphic Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► where he spent so little time doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► thing that we're just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► where he's like he's like talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► reader about about the medic question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► and the ennui and you know lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► writers do that throughout the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► book stephen king is like straight ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► i'm going to tell you a story and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► saves that he saves that he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► spend the whole book having people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► know the author or the character or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► narrator or anybody especially with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► narrator's a lot of times in areas just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► like here's what happened on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► happened happened then and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► in the middle and the end a pivotal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► scene the narrative will say two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► sentences that are not advancing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► plot that are commenting on the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► in a very simple way and they stand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► because the narrator the character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► the writer whoever is this the voice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► the book doesn't do that normally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► jumps out at you when he has a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► line about that early on in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► doesn't it doesn't take say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► about a base you know he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► his students very early on is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► something about the basic job of his of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► a storyteller is this happened and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► this happened and it's the story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► matters it's not the right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► that is the sum up that is the sum up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► Stephen King right and don't take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► time to go let me tell you why this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► important isn't it dramatic and he felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► this is this you know it's no just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► the story but there is a moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► reflection a moment or two reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► and you can land hearts don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► very carefully they could you can land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► that if you've built the structure such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► that that that earns its little slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► there and that you know need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► characters and you need a good story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► you have a microcosm of it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► what's the name of the the janitor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► the beginning of this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► Harry yeah yeah but you have a microwave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► in this in Harry's SI where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► he says that he says it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► beginning and you you learn a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► about the essay before you actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► to read some of it and initially you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► like okay yeah i can more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► believe that this was a heartbreaking SI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► and then he actually lets you read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► excerpt and yes it's pretty is poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► written as painted and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► heartbreaking it's it's it it hooks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► like they're they're just hooks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► keep you moving through the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► written in a way that much more slickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► produced as they wouldn't do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► i don't know about you guys but after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► finished reading that passage i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► actually had to put down the kindle for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► a minute or two and you know go snuggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► my daughter then come back to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► it's chilling and actually that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► that Stephen King you know hehe has i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► know are you know he is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► well yes he's a he's crazy and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► gonna kill us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► no he that's right in his wheelhouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► though regulator holy his thing he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► really good kid he knows all the tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► he knows how to pull them out and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50 ◼   ► fact is the end of this book i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► was i mean at the climax where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► confrontation between shake and Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► Harvey Oswald in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► Harvey Oswald in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► book depository and I and a shot goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► awry and sadie is mortally wounded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► all that that was exciting but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► find it particularly affecting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► really like Jake is going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► motions of what he has to do and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► course the girlfriend it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17 ◼   ► an episode of a TV series of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► characters girlfriend is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► horrible accidentally shot and died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► because but the that's how to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► pneumonic but the last one is what get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► last seen pays off everything and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► amazingly affecting like that room got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► really a bad man came in and kick sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► in my eyes and made me cry a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► at the end of that I mean it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► affecting at the end of this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► just he has figured out there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► writers and we talking you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► your contrasting with Stevenson there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► are some writers who take all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► little intellectual fancy part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► brain right the oh is that so clever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► appreciate that and then there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► writers like Stephen King you grab that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► you know the lizard brain the end part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► of you and just and just shake it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► know and and he's figured out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► perfectly like like you guys said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► his craft is perfectly honed to tap into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► well there's the beauty of I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► fact that in in this final scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► the fact is the jake and Sadie have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► connection and and there are alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► you know alternate versions of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► in this case it's a safety Sadie who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► now an old lady and has never met him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► before and lived that life without him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► and yet they still have a connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► he goes back there to Jodi in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► present and meets her dances and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► dances with her and it's like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► somewhere in time you can practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► see Christopher even James seymour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► making misty eyes at each other as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► go through this but it's really touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► I think that and doesn't he doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:50 ◼   ► a he makes a Jack Finney reference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► the ya-ya not have to work yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► yeah but it's just it'sit's i looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► because i have that book on my shelf and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► now it's looking up as I've Illustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► looking at but the Jack Benny time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► again myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► yeah that's good yeah now but such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:09 ◼   ► great again there's the payoff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► after all this sort of failure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► changing time he the I felt like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► could have ended and it would have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► been particularly fulfilling and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► and then when he goes after having sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► of like return to the president being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► kind of disconnected from everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► he goes to Texas and it was kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► know I was almost giving us like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► gonna go yeah go see what's there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► was yeah so I i was i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► impressed i mean to wrap to wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► i don't know what I really expected from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► this I the most recent stephen king book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► I've read is i don't know i mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► a long time ago I mean I i think i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► have been one of the dark tower like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► this third Dark Tower book maybe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► it's been a long time since i've read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► stephen king book and I was you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► was i really liked it is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► favorite books of 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► I thought that he hit you know I i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► the time-travel mechanics mechanics were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► interesting but in the end i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► this story of the the you know the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► story that's happening with the ticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► of the clock of the impending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► assassination and then the resolution at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► the end I you know I just I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► enjoyed it way more than I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► I would I I kind of wished that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► you know I wanted to talk about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:36 ◼   ► that's one of the reasons i finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► so rapidly but at the same time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► torn because I didn't want to because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► because it was so engrossing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► wrapping up you kind of want to savor it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► and so I was sad to read 500 patients in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► traffic for hours or so but yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► you know it's still I agree it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► incredibly incredibly effective book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► a really well told story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► well I think this is definitely the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► he written before this was under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► dome and I think this is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► leagues above under the dome this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► this is I think a whole new level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► storytelling compared to that one john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► what about this one what's your verdict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► on 11 22 63 you probably shouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► me go last but you can always read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► in two different sequences you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18 ◼   ► like this was not my favorite recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► stephen king book I at this point and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► feel like I've read so many stephen king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► books that he has to do a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► surprise me and when i read this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► think it's like all this is like fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► percent this book 25-percent that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► really you know that he has trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► endings I have trouble stephen king's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► endings and he has trouble with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► you know this is the thing we do we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43 ◼   ► the book together and we both know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► it's gonna end doesn't have no he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► yeah I don't know it seems like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► Stephenson has prepared and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► some things that he does in the endings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► that I don't like let's put it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► and he does them again here and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► continued not like them at it it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► which which is what what what in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01 ◼   ► specific because i love the coda in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► texas i don't really love the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06 ◼   ► couple of chapters before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► well it's see the thing is with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► Steve we both know we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► I know that he's gonna do the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► that annoy me about this you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► yeah ya are on first name basis I I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► that he's gonna do things in it but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► accept that he's going to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23 ◼   ► things like for example under the dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► under the dome was not a goes as good a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► book of this but it's more i have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► easier time with that visits lock and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► was perfectly fine to go through into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► the dome even though I knew every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► thing that was going to happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► practically how it was gonna play out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► and that I wasn't going to be satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► with the explanation of the end and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► wasn't it was like you know I'm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► with you on this one it's kind of almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► worse when he's got like a heart of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► good book there and really promising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► start but then he just goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► ending is so might my complaint about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► mainly is that when when he goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► see it sees how things have gone wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► and you already covered a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► with the earthquakes and stuff was okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► when he goes out and see how things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► gone wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► it's like Steve you gotta decide are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► gonna is this are the details of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► important I is going to be a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► the alternate history or the details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► time-travel are those mechanics or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► whatever or just going to be that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14 ◼   ► book that you were riding and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► well it's mostly about the book when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► writing but let me do this thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► with the Mad Max guys maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► stretch for the young hooligans yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22 ◼   ► indian province and and and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► sometimes like I would have been happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► if you want to ride that fucker would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27 ◼   ► have been with you but you were writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► this other book but you like but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► stick this thing in here and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► ending with the thing that that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► model and ending that the Jason was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► buying maybe I've seen too many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► from him but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► alright I i was out if I and I always go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► through this thing I'm like when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► reading Stephen King book like Steve I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► know you're going to end this but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► how i would end and i would like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► better is like not doing that way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► like all right you know do it your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► and i'm with you and the way i would end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► it is the two ways i would have been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► this one way is to have and this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► have again before even reading the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► you just know the plot of the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► always going about pirate talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► groundhog day thing one way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► would be the injector is our as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► to make sure our lee harvey oswald was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► the lone gunman turns out he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► lone gunman but rather than you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► stop Lee Harvey Oswald but then he still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► gets shot by the other gunmen you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► him you think he's the only one but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► you see this shadowy guy in the grassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► knoll go off to the side and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► it's at the shadow of doubt whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► really solved it and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► that wasn't what they were doing fine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27 ◼   ► you're going to do this when he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► back and he finds everything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► all messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► I don't need to know how it's messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32 ◼   ► and I can you tell me specifically how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► it's messed up is worse I i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► happy if you came back through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37 ◼   ► portal and it was just great ash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► everywhere and snowy like a scene from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► the road or something and then you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► walk right back through you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► mean or something like that and it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► if he feels compelled to put in that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► or two or three chapters there any feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► compelled to how the guy go down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50 ◼   ► meet her when she's old I don't need any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► of that I don't need to meeting when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► he's like as far as I'm concerned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► point he's done all the work he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57 ◼   ► to doing that book and he was successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► any kind of screws it up man but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► it's you know I'm with him I'm we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► an understanding and i go i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05 ◼   ► don't agree about the about the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► last code because i like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09 ◼   ► reinforcement not only yes it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► sweet and sappy and and it made me cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► but I like effect that it reinforces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► that that town is real and that it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► know it and he sees it in the present i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► think that i think there's some closure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► there that i like that that he is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► know he has been profoundly changed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29 ◼   ► his experience in a way and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31 ◼   ► real and it and and those people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► live there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► I like that part of it i completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► agree with you about the province of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► main section being yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► are you really because it even so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► like this little old man is a wheelchair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► says sit down Sonny and let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51 ◼   ► recap of the last 30 years it won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► too long but it will be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► I don't need to know all the alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► history I i rather have intended like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► short story short stories don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► because you don't have room short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01 ◼   ► stories always end in that other way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► so so do it that way there you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► you can still have the same the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► code of the same emotional code about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09 ◼   ► him realizing that the realizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► about life that damn nails so well about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13 ◼   ► you know you can't do it you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► back and you're you know lived through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16 ◼   ► that again you're a changed person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► you can have all those without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► him go dance with her and she's 80 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► whatever i guess now I mean no I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► don't think I don't begrudge him doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26 ◼   ► this and I don't you know sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28 ◼   ► works sometimes i will say that the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► stephen king book was ending i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► like pretty much it on unqualified no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► qualifiers nothing you know I he and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► were an exact agreement was the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► of the extended version of the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► I think that's the only book that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► ended under percent to my satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► that is because they're sending it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:51 ◼   ► best but probably one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► endings of John books of all time is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► is good anybody did like this anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► did like that he that he wrapped it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► and and gave gave me is the reader the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► kind of appropriate closure for what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04 ◼   ► just seen I think that's part of it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► is just that that I i had invested a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► of time and thought into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► relationship and so to sort of get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► last bit that that it did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► connection was there and it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:15 ◼   ► matter and yeah that was nice and it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► it there was some stuff before it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► there that was not so well so we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► we could go on a hundred perhaps we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► but i'm going to close up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► incomparable book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► we should probably talk about Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► King some or some other time I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► think we do a whole podcast about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► stand we could probably do 80 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► about the stand given that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► approximately 5,000 pages long and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:41 ◼   ► gonna have these really great power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► tower so we can do a thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► dark tower i guess yeah doctors even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46 ◼   ► longer have you read it to its many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► maternity and Jason we can all read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► together it'll really loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► yes but until then until we read many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► more things by by Stephen King go before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00 ◼   ► before we go by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► for the purposes of our friends who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► following along at home and would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► to read the things that the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► book club is reading our next book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► selection i can actually we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► ahead far enough that I can say it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► the podcast our next book club selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► is a short story collection by maureen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► McHugh called after the apocalypse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► will be the next thing we read in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► a month so you've got some time to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► many stories by maureen McHugh after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36 ◼   ► apocalypse so until the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► incomparable podcast i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► thank my guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► Lisa Schmeisser thank you very much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► it was a pleasure serenity called well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49 ◼   ► thank you thank you John siracusa thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► you for lending your your encyclopedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► acknowledged of Stephen King to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► proceedings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► I'm your long gunman Jason Dean Morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► thank you for being here and for reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► the book people like a day but i bet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► plan to do it again nice that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:07 ◼   ► right you will you like this you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► working under deadlines i do i'm much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11 ◼   ► better pretty good thing my job of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► and last finished book 500 pages bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17 ◼   ► just like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► alright so thanks thanks everybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:22 ◼   ► thanks to the great and comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► listening audience until next time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► the incomparable I'm Jason snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMahezsQ/4353">TS</a>]