The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 70 [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► December 2011 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► I'm Glenn Fleischmann and I'm slipping [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► into the blue suede shoes of jason l [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► this week the host our first geeky nerdy [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► music episode back in September 2010 we [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► to talk about soundtracks was an episode [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► 4 but this is the first time we're [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► talking about band songs your worms our [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► favorite music that kind of thing and [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► there's a lot to talk about so this will [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► likely be the first of several over the [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► next millennia podcast we do on the [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► subject of music we certainly can't fit [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► everything and there's there's an [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► explosion a nerd extravaganza of music [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► designed for those of you who are [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► listening to this podcast so joining me [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► tonight is a regular host subjected to [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► my mockery this time Jason smell I miss [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► I miss the regular host what happened [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► him what's wrong is in rehab again [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► no he's not locked into a closet thank [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► you for joining us thank you for hosting [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► I thank you [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► also joining us is Lex Friedman who is a [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► friend of the podcast last on an episode [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► 41 so long ago i'm back to the future [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► and he was also a silent guest for the [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► episode 22 Stephen Fry does not appear [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► which we here at the podcast call the [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► podcast that must never be repeated [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► well I hope to continue that trend of [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► making unrepeatable podcaster also [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► called Glenn's folly that's informal [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► there are many podcasts they're called [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► Glenn's always that's pretty much most [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► of the time that's edited out of [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► podcasts that called that I believe [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► that's Jason's folly because he's doing [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► the editing and finally we've got Scott [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► McNulty host guard Scott Oakland you [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► challenge my supremacy is host for this [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► episode so we'll be fighting it out now [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► you'll pay for your help out thanks [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► Scott look Scott I I like Jason's less [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► hostile introduction [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► oh you will you would well so when we [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► talk about tonight gentlemen we are [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► talking about geeky music and I remember [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► listening late at night when I was a lad [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► to dr. Demento and geeky music back you [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► know 300 years ago [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► oh yeah 30 years ago was was it was dr. [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► Demento stuff it was novelty record and [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► it was Billy mummies [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► efficient as on and you know things like [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► that the coming to take me away and it [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► was novelty stuff it wasn't the things [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► that were for geeks were things that had [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► inside jokes about Star Trek or Doctor [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► Who strange they still do but nobody [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► wasn't mainstream culture than it was [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► all meant for people who were sort of [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► stuck away [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► listen to dr. Demento late at night [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► recording them on their eight you know [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► the reel-to-reel organize it did you [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► ever appear on dr. Demento did you ever [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► call in and let me have your [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► requirements laid on the air you know [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► that's an amazing thing I didn't know I [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► I in fact did [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► oh yes that's cool that's super cool [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► yeah wait [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► super cool i would like to go on record [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► as saying I have a song played on the [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► doctor with radio show we're song you [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► created a song I created was played on [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► the dr. Demento show [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► oh my god this is a great secret you [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► know I had a king and Lex has an ace [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► I'm sorry about that my son was hooked [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► on phonics it was a parody of ironic by [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► alanis morissette with the music done by [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► a person i had met through the internet [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► while I was in junior high school and I [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► have no idea who that person was or who [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► generated that music for me at the time [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► was hilarious [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► that's awesome well we are obviously [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► fully qualified then I get introduced to [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► dr. menter by am I incredibly geeky [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► theater friend so I was like double or [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► triple geeky they're an older woman was [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► involved in theatre and she introduced [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► me to dr. Demento the show not the [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► person and you know I listen for years [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► and at some point I was like you know [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► sort of it never gets any different it's [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► sort of always the same kind of jokey [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► slightly childhood stuff and I loved a [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► lot of was on there and some of it i [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► still listen to but i think that was [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► sort of a a place where that all [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► collected as we're weird al yankovic [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► made his first appearance from Bray she [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► played a doctor better play we're now [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► first before to it though I've been out [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► there the story ends with you having [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► dinner with dr. Demento I swear to god [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► I've never never have no connection you [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► with anything that ok but so dr. Demento [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► so I bring him up because I think he's [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► kind of the point that people think [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► about when they think about Kiki music [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► to think about the novelty stuff but you [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► know now it's something happened maybe [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► in the nineteen eighties where Fred [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► Schneider I mean maybe I'm being [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► ridiculous here but i think that [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► b-52 they're not geeky percent bring [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► them up in this podcast as an example i [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► keep your nerdy music [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► not exactly but it was weird it was [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► strange and hit the mainstream and [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► around the same time I think that's when [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► they might be giants started up in about [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► nineteen eighty-two and we're gonna [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► spend the first half of the podcast for [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► the first portion talking about they may [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► be Giants because they are sort of the [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► the or nerd band they talked about nerdy [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► weird things history and science and [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► surrealism and they were incredibly [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► clever in there lyrics they're sort of [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► you know like as clever elvis costello [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► if Elvis Costello did novelty style [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► songs and they for awhile became almost [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► popular it was an accident [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► as I recall the time remember um was all [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► a misunderstanding what it seemed like [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► because they weren't trying to write pop [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► music but they're really terrific [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► songwriters and they wrote some music [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► that apparently was just mainstream [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► enough like it was the big was don't let [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► start was not one of the big ones i [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► think it was wasn't it slide with the [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► birdhouse in your soul and eventually [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► signed this excitement level [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► yes I don't have particle man and [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► parking and I signed to Elektra Records [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► MTV started playing something [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► Constantinople was on a TV show one of [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► the kids shows and piney too tiny to [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► school which was listened to by stoner [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► watch mostly by stoners i think is [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► orchid children children is there a [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► difference through a child I was a [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► stoner child I was told you were born [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► fully grown so I my mother doesn't [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► return my calls so they might be giants [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► didn't maintain know this popularity for [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► that long we start there's a great line [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► i found the New Yorker profile them from [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► 2002 and it said they return to a more [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► consistent if moderate popularity and I [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► think that's sort of the case like [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► everyone at a certain level knows who [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► they might be giants are and they [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► started in children's music more than a [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► decade ago but they're almost 30 year [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► old band and I wonder maybe each of you [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► have a have the how did you come to they [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► might be giants story or some kind of [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► experience where is that assuming maybe [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► I'm wrong this is kind of first band [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► like that that came across your path who [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► would like to start [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► well I'll start is a as a doctor Demento [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► list of course yes I was inculcated in [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► all of that but that was something in at [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► least in my life in it [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► I get the impression in a lot of [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► people's lives that's something you [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► 12 between the ages of you know 10 and [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► 14 15 and then you move and then you [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► move on or in lexus case he continued [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► problem with this day but most of us [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► move on anyway um they might be giants i [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► had a friend who I worked with in the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► mid-nineties Jim bribery who was the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► editor of mac user magazine at the time [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► and he basically loaned me his copy of [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► John Henry which is actually a great [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► album and I i don't know whether this is [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► thought but by more people who listen to [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► they might be giants but it strikes me [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► as like the overlooked and forgotten [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► album in that it doesn't have what feels [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► like a super big hit single on it but I [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► love love love that entire album and I [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► listened to that thing I I you know I [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► gave Jim his CD back and bought my own [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► CD of that and listen to it endlessly [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► the one with the kids in the skull and [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► on the album art and it says we hate [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► they might be giants on the banner that [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► said being held by children and it's got [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► some you know some crazy songs like AK [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► driver and and dirt bike and the end of [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► the tour and snail shell and subliminal [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► which they played in the show that i [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► just saw with them and I thought that [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► was really cool because for some reason [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► I feel like John Henry is this album [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► that nobody basically because one at the [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► time it didn't seem like anybody had [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► ever heard of them and I felt like I [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► discovered this band that had this crazy [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► album and then it opened up and I bottle [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► all their other albums and have [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► continued to do so but it was just a [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► friend who thought that I would like it [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► and boy you know full credit to gym who [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► has excellent taste in music and he and [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► I share a lot of likes of power pop [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► bands and things like that that he [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► zeroed in on they might be giants and [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► let me borrow John Henry and the rest is [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► history [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► but John Henry is also my favorite [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► they've enjoyed somebody really when it [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► came out it was a controversy amongst [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► hardcore they might be giants nerdy [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► because it was a full band right because [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► it's full band so everyone was like this [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► is out [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► Aegis what are you doing to us where's [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► the accordion but exactly i will never [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► listen to this [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► well you can say where's the accordion [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► on on John Henry the very first track [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► yeah i knows with the accordance with [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► the hardrock accordion I know but still [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► there's the synthesizer I had no right I [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► had no idea where the drum machine [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that's true that was the first that i [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► had an experience that they might be [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► giants up for me it was perfectly [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► natural and I thought that was an [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► awesome so I'm glad you like a to scott [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► i do so Scott what's your what's your [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► what's your story [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► what's your story man I so when I was a [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► kid I was not really interested in music [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► for whatever reason so the music I grew [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► up listening to was the music that my [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► mother listen to which happened to be [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► for those who lived in the New York area [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► at the same time it was a CBS FM they [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► play your favorite oldies CBS FM so I [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► the music of my childhood is like from [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► fifties and sixties which I thought [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► apparently they lived in like a time [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► bubble was current music and then I went [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► to my friends house and he put on flood [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► in a cassette and it blew my mind I was [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► like what this is not due up [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► what is going on these men they're [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► singing with their voices in a different [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► fashion it's true so then that was birds [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► and things the first I heard of them and [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► then I they have because they were my [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► favorite band ever since and that's my [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► story [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► I think it's sorry i just listened to [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► SBC FM which played your least favorite [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► oldies I don't know they're on the [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► airport they tied her up [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► it's funny you say that i grew up with [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► my parents weren't that into music my [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► dad actually is from the pretty rock n [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► roll era so he has no no connection to [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► actual modern music and my mom was a [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► high school student 50 so she kind of [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► got it and but the station listened to [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► was like this weird am stationed in San [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► Francisco that played like the giants [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► baseball games were on there and they [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► were like guys doing funny voices and [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► comedy sketches and then adult [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► contemporary songs [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► I haven't I have energy like no can be [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► our before it became an all sports [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► station and I have an encyclopedic [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► knowledge of some of the worst music of [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► the nineteen seventies and early [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► eighties because you know it's Starland [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► Vocal Band afternoon do not delight whoo [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► boy I know that one backward forward [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► that it took me until it was it was [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► until i was in high school before I [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► realized all these songs that I thought [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► were great were actually buy one band [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► called The Beatles I knew what I knew [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the songs but had no knowledge of this [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► only so I I hear what you're saying [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► Scott that's in strange they might be [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► giants a little bit of the graduation [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► bandits one of the first bands where you [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► claim it if you're the right age which [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► apparently is from roughly 30 years to [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► roughly in your forties is it's the band [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► you go like oh that's the band that is [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► of my time even if it's weird you know I [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► was in college in 1991 flood came out [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► and i totally missed it and i have no [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► idea how that happened [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► that was when they were popular you [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► probably just regarded them as no no it [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► was a land college campus it was the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► perfect place i have no idea my I feel [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► like my college underground music store [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► let me down by not saying son by this [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► flood thing by this now my wife's elvis [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► costello in college there's a slight [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► digression but it was all that same time [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► he was touring in the first half he do [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► this thing we started a lot of your [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► favorites and whatever and kind of [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► wasn't great was a fine show and then [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► everybody left the people who stayed he [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► sort of got rid of all the fat boys he [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► brought the great we love songs and [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► spinach and play whatever came up you [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► know people come up and spin his entire [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► saga discography was that kind of time [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► it's like people actually enjoy great [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► colleges and playing two notes I mean [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► now it's all there wasn't commercial [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► them but they weren't making much money [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► then it's all different time but it was [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► also time when you could have like they [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► might be giants all these groups that [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► even if they are relatively popular to [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► go to college campuses they get you know [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► hundreds and hundreds of people out [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► there Philip the football stadiums or [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the auditorium or whatever it was some [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► was fun time [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► go on I know what you're thinking I know [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► what you're thinking you're thinking [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► wait a minute i still don't know how Lex [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► got introduced today when yeah I wasn't [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► exactly thinking that but now you [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► mentioned iamcurious you tell us- by [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► virtue and benefit of my [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► age i was introduced to the moment a [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► much younger age then for example Jason [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► my first cassette of they might be [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► giants was actually any legally dubbed [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► copy this was curly file-sharing folks a [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► lot of copy that my sister I have two [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► sisters my older sister am who was five [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► years older than I am had gotten this [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► tape from a friend in school so I got a [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► dub of Abby's dub and one side of the [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► tape was flood and the other side of the [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► tape was the self-titled debut they [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► might be giants album and I just I wore [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► it out i listened to that tape over and [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► over again so much so that I literally [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► wore out the tape and so using those [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► media that existed that you can wear out [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► over time by using this it is true and [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► so I the the what's true for me in my [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► fandom of any kind of entertainment [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► source whether it's TV shows or books or [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► music is that whatever music or TV or [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► whatever I like I have to like [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► obsessively and III become a complete so [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► the first musician that I really loved [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► as Jason already alluded to was weird al [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► yankovic and you know what I think [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► separates will get too weird elegant [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► little bit later perhaps but what I [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► think separates they might be giants and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► even weird al is not just you know [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► especially they may be times it's not [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► just the the topics they sing about the [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► fact that you know it's the their name [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► implies especially are not going for [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► humor in most of their music but it's [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the the fact that what separates them is [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► that they take the musicianship the [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► music part of it just as seriously as [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► they take the lyrics and I think to me [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► that's you know so there's you can [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► listen to their coming to take me away [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► you could take well there's some funny [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► lines in there you can listen to a lot [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► of the stuff dr. mental place and feel [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► that way but meant much of it is not [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► realistic able because the musicality [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► just isn't there and I think that's [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► where they might be giants really set [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► themselves apart and I think even when I [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► was you know I don't know 19 might be is [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► so I got the tape 1991 so I was 11 [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► even at 11 years old I was appreciative [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► of the fact that this was something you [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► could listen to over and over again and [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► it didn't wear out its welcome it just [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► wore out the tape itself i think you [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► bring up a great point is I think that [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► was the that was the difference between [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► they might be giants maybe other your [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► mission say that a lot of novelty [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► actually actually we're pretty fine [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► musicians but they really were trying [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► to be silly your infantile or should get [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► a rise of trying to see it was by roll [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► back in the you know 60 seventies [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► eighties when people were exchanging [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► tapes they could sell 45 and record [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► stores and the whole thing like they're [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► hoping to get like I'm gonna get a [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► grandma got run over by a reindeer thing [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► and sell a million copies over Christmas [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► and that's how I'm gonna make my money [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► and in that was a different thing than [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► these guys building richly later music [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► even with just the two of them and you [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► know some drum sander drum crab [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► synthesizer and other stuff they they [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► can sing in so many different styles [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► it's kind of like Weird Al and I don't [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► think I felt like I didn't realize this [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► with we don't feel much weight very late [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► in his career the two guys John [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► Flansburg and John well the John's who [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► front the band they could have been pop [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► stars i think if they wanted to in some [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► way like I think they wrote songs that [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► sound practically like the Beatles and [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► then that is fine and refined whatever [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► that quite as catchy but they could have [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► chosen a different route than this one [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► and this is the one that their music and [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► interest [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► welcome to is to be you know super geeky [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► and funny and also you have to like was [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► it john munoz that side project was the [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► 50 states that ever listen to all the [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► songs state songs dance songs yeah his [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► side effort what I've been told so [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► perhaps you're interested where I [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► learned about they might be giants maybe [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► yes Glenn oh yeah tell us [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► I was different so i was i was a hundred [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► years old in 1986 and I'm sorry [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► acquisition college in nineteen eighties [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► and UK market their first album on a wax [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► cylinder it was it Mel Thomas Edison [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► delivered itself states he said that we [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► played on my victory in the omaha this [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► marvelous new recording by these [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► gentlemen they must be Giants they've [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► birthday must be giants at the time they [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► were just average height so a friend of [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► mine who is the most interesting person [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► I'd probably ever met in college later [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► became an editor of the at the Village [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► Voice and wrote a fascinating novel that [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► I think called personal days that [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► reflects everything I knew about him in [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► college [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► he's like hey I bet you like this group [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► they're called they may be Giants that i [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► was like i like the name just I like the [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► name to start with I'd seen the george [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► scott film which is [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► very peculiar and he takes me to some a [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► record store with with actual vinyl [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► recordings and we purchased such an item [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► and that was it i believe i did buy [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► their first album I think it was they [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► may already have had a Lincoln might [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► already been out but i believe i bought [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► the very first they might be giants and [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► self-titled album but then that was [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► great when flood came and remember [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► coming out and going oh this is so much [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► its better produced it's richer it's [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► like it's a bigger thing with the same [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► thing and then Apollo 18 which I felt [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► terribly became something quite [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► different less silly there's like there [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► was a narrative continuity in the song [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► they made sense for once but anyway so I [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► feel like I didn't discover them by [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► simply just turned out of the really [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► early on and I've got this you know [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► 25-year history with them now but they [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► don't know me a bit i haven't Jason I've [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► never met them either [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► ok there are no connection to them [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► whatsoever it's funny that it came up [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► the idea that they went chose to go [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► another direction and not be pure sort [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► of like straightforward pop but had this [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► kind of quirky element I feel like it's [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► a John Henry was controversial but I [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► their next album factory showroom I felt [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► like verged on being a completely [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► straight mainstream Rock Album not quite [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► but so close that I felt like I expected [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► their album after that to just be a [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► regular rock album and instead what [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► happened is they went back to being [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► crazier and Kiki or a nerdier they went [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► the other way was like you know know [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► know this song is too straightforward we [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► can't have that we need to step it back [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► not i just went away in there Jason I [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► believe because you know i have had this [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► conversation that factory showroom is is [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► another one of your favorite they might [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► be giants album yes but it's so funny to [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► me to hear you say that you thought that [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► one was there you know more mainstream [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► Rock effort i mean i think there are [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► some some real hard rock song real hard [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► is not really reacted with some you know [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► real intense rock songs like till my [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► head falls off there when you think [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► about tracks like exclusive dead guy or [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► metal detector xec vs animated or james [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► k polk or I can hear you [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► which are you know make up half this [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► album down I don't like it any sense you [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► could say this is a rock out many of [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► these tracks are a performance pieces [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► yeah but i had his pet name not about a [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► straightforward as they've ever been in [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► New York City is that not about [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► straightforward several new york city is [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► a cover this capital that they do love [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► doing the covers and I i agree with you [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► there but your pet name I think I mean I [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► love pet name it I would you know we can [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► get into this too but I happen to my end [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► up being more of a lil song fan the [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► flames of birdsong family list my [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► favorites is it always leaves lanell but [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► cracking the favorites list from [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► Flansburg is always going to be pet name [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► and I don't think it's straightforward i [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► mean i think that you know musically [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► sonically maybe it's a little bit [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► straightforward but lyrically it's it's [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► not a pop song you can listen to the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► radio and say I know exactly what's [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► happening in this song it's especially [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► the verses progressive we get into cats [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► cradle and where God me it's very I [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► think subtle isn't leading the NL your [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► tribute band name [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► yeah where it is now right Eileen john [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► henry st each other you know I'm gonna [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► tell you honestly I couldn't tell you [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► which I'd ever look at those credits for [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► these guys [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► whether its plans for early now I know [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► there's different kinds of things things [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► that right but yeah well sort of yeah i [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► mean that's the thing too is they have [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► like some might actually my favorite [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► they might be giants memory is not [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► seeing them live which i saw i think [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► only see them once at the Showbox in [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► seattle classic venue where the smoke is [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► so thick it was in the space looking [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► smoking clubs days that I almost [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► couldn't see them on the stage from [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► across a very small but states but they [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► were terrific they're actually such good [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► performers live that it was slightly [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► disappointed as I hoped they would be [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► more spontaneous but very tight and they [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► they delivered but my favorite memory is [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► watching them when Apollo 18 came out [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► they want the jay leno show and they [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► performed with my favorite singers are [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► sit straw the tall strange woman who was [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► on adventures of pete and pete just a [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► terrific fasting singer with interesting [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► voice and she sang they saying the lion [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► sleeps tonight [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► silver spaceship and which is a weird [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► song in any guitar with that all the [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► good times all the guitar Glenn it's [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► called let him host this podcast i was a [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► clerical error [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► I don't know who wrote any of the songs [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► I don't know what you don't know the [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► names of the sound perfect i was singing [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► your favorite memory is not seeing them [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► live [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► but i have lunch with their producer [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► allocation I'll get you LT so the so [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► they're performing the song it was [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► slightly a tune because you know the [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► monitors don't always work in studios UC [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► Santa live it's often whatever say sing [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► this song and the cover letter and he's [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► looking at them like who the hell but [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► these guys I don't know what that world [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► so he says [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► so I you guys like sports it was like if [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► in Letterman that would have been funny [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► but letter just had no they just SAT [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► there and sort of series each other made [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► adultery conversation to linocuts single [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► for a commercial but it was like he did [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► not get em one bit not a superpower me [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► surprised yeah exactly but they were [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► booked because they were popular at that [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► exact moment in time they were popular [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► enough to be considered and then booked [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► on the jay leno show whatever it was [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► called at the time the tonight show [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► perhaps I don't know the show jay little [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► shouldn't host GRE look it's whatever [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► show it was it was the right I believe [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► it was the conan o'brien show featuring [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► a letter [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► I you know I i have it's not guilt but [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► there's a tiny sense of shame for me [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► even participating in this podcast only [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► because I feel like especially in my [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► even younger years they might be giants [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► help me develop was probably my worst [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► habit as a friend who wanted to share [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► music which was I was that guy when I [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► wanted to play know the the newest [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► greatest they might be trying to track [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► from whatever the new out was for [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► friends who were perhaps less fond or [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► less familiar with the band was it but [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► you gotta listen just listen to this [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► next year you know just listen to what [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► happened seriously because act to me you [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► know for some songs when you're [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► listening to the beatles whom you know [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► they may be guys themselves have cited [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► as a strong influence i guess every [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► decent band has that's a good influence [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► you know you can hear it though you can [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► hear the beatles in the lyrics and the [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► OGG certainly can what do you think [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► about something like I wanna hold your [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► hand I think you're okay by verse 2 if [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► you check out a little bit and just [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► start you know appreciating the sound [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► and aren't paying attention but when [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► you're in that they might be giants song [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► you want to pay attention at least I [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► want to pay attention to what's [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► happening lyrically 1 verse 2 comes [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► around and whatever else comes around [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► because there are no wasted words and [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► everything they're saying is important [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► to that song and I was like you know you [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► have to be quiet listen to standing in [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► my car where they tore down the girl [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► just wait for the next line to make room [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► for the torn down garage [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► okay so yeah just needlessly obsessing [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► over each individual lyric I feel that I [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► do and I I feel a little bit of shame [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► about well you know I want to ask you [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► guys I think I made this comment I [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► didn't make this coming earlier I [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► haven't forgotten yet which is that I [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► you know the first couple albums the [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► eponymous album eponymous debut album [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► and Lincoln we're really i would say [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► their nonsense song for the songs had [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► less intentional meaning in what should [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► we say they're a little more like almost [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► stream-of-consciousness you know just [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► things that was a [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► stream-of-consciousness more like [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► subconscious thinking like that thing [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► when you're half-asleep and kind as the [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► unconscious is like you're half asleep [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► and these things connect like I you know [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► purple to pay our countdown going down [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► to count on the counter friends with me [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► they live beneath the ocean live need to [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► see of course the cows do great [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► it's just things like you're almost [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► you're just nodding off to sleep and it [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► makes sense then and then its culture [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► killed my dog and I don't have enough [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► air they'll need to shoehorn with teeth [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► you know I want to shoehorn stepped on [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► my teeth it's just this clock [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► I want to apologize to our they may be [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► Giants who are you were so upset at [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► Glenn's butchering the lyrics of this [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► song [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► wait what am I saying so you sing it [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► what is that every everything you do is [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► better hide with he started the door he [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► would get what beat i was eating their [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► beliefs are very good too or no access [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► respiration skating like the leaves [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► oh gosh i did not realize how hard this [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► job was Jason and so I took it off and I [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► don't want the world glad I just want my [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► half due to so from this guy you know [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► now I was gonna make up the lyrics [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► remember to myself don't think my god is [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► going to host the podcast play with us i [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► think that it would you mind if i write [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► and green magic marker on the back of [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► your head right now Jason because you [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► know so between they might be giants [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► eponymous debut and Lincoln yes with [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► flood they got into more narrative stuff [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► and I think Apollo 8 even more so [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► there's actually a stitched on the story [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► i mean their stories in the first two [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► albums but i think they didn't become [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► like true [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► contains storytellers until later apollo [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► 18 is famous for a you know annoying [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► people who shuffled because they realize [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► there is that too [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► absolutely just which makes absolutely [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► no sense but is my favorite part of [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► Apollo 80mm at least you're saying the [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► fingertips the song makes no sense [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► I i think it makes little sense see you [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► know I'm gonna talk at two sides of my [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► mouth which is a parlor trick I learned [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► you know I think there is respect once [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► okay this that you know there's a [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► tendency and this part of what am I you [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► know when my early internet time was [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► spent on forums either discussing weird [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► LOL where they might be giants and you [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► know there was this tendency then and [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► still now to to analyze everything might [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► be giants long ago for what's the [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► interpretation what's really happening i [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► think that probably in my mind at least [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► that starts because of their first I [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► think one of their first major singles [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► birdhouse in your soul whose lyrics are [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► not it's not obvious to many listeners [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► who liked the song what it's about if [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► they don't spend the time to actually [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► look we're really pay strict attention [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► to the lyrics so then every song of [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► theirs gets over analyze and you know [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► you have a baby died saying you know [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► most of the time we don't have deeper [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► meaning you know when people are [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► learning about this lyric it's because [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► it fit the song nicely there or arrived [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► at the regular price but it is a [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► different thing between it the song [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► having to make some coherent sense that [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► you can decode and they're being a story [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► in the song and I think osher the story [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► was a very small story like both of car [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► is a crate I Love Boat of car but it's [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► like it's almost indecipherable what the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► story is and there's sort of using [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► language not tell the story but to tell [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► you there is a story there [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► I think that's there when you get into [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► flood and Apollo 18 i think more so and [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► there's there is an actual narrative [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► they're telling within many not all of [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► the songs where paints all you know it's [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► it's a world they create briefly and [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► then destroy no I think that's fair but [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► i would just say even though i think [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► that it's easy to overanalyze they might [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► be giants songs that I feel that [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► fingertips actually does tell a story [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► well you pick that is your favorite song [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► so you don't get a talk about anything [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► that's fine because I'm cutting you off [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► I'm cutting you off friedman because we [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► talked in this episode we're planning [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► this episode about that a little more [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► focus where each picking a song that we [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► like and we'll talk about it [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► like I want you to go first because i [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► just cut you off and lets you picked the [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► Mesopotamians unless i'm pronouncing [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► that wrong no you nailed it [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► oh it you know it to me there without a [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► security what album is it from her that [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► I'm sure well the Mesopotamian else is [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► on the else that's exactly right 20,000 [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► that somebody has done their homework [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► left like somebody has been the pedia [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► really open front of them yeah sadly [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► wikipedia just include lyrics you don't [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► even wikipedia you just need TM bTW this [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► might be a wiki which is the variable [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► source for they might be giants wiki [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► information that's where the real fans [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► come tmw dotnet you've got your lyrics [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► your interpretations your song facs [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► analysis and all that but so the [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► Mesopotamians I like on 800 levels and i [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► think that the reason i picked it for 75 [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► cows our podcast the reason i picked for [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► this podcast is because i truly think I [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► mean it is up there nine children focus [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► songs it has to rank in the top ten [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► nerdiest they might be giant songs it [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► works out a lot of levels first you've [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► got the the historical level you know [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► he's Jenelle who wrote and sings the [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► song you know is talking about the [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► Mesopotamia and he's citing Sargon [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► Hammurabi oxygen bond appalling [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► Gilgamesh you very rarely feature i [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► think of popular music I can't name a [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► many other songs with offshore Barbara [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► Calif specifically asked but so you've [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► got that element and you've got a very [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► strange as that when you listen to the [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► song you've got a very strange sort of [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► temporal anomaly happening at the song [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► because there clearly living in [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► Mesopotamia in the time of Mesopotamia [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► yet they're driving around in there [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► econoline van as they tour from town to [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► town in their band so you've got all [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► that happening which i think is [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► interesting and then you've got this [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► note first that the band has a sort of [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► theirs discontent within the band at one [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► point where you know he's not going to [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► share his gun with one of the members of [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► the band because he said his haircut was [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► poor and then you've got a whole Beatles [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► Paul is dead reference where they're [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► singing you know I thought that you were [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► dead I thought you crashed your car and [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► he's no man I've been right here this [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► whole time playing bass guitar it's it's [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► it's it's a mean the song is bizarre [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► there is no other band that could ever [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► have written that song I don't think you [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► can say that about every day might be [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► giants song [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► I'm confident that with the [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► Mesopotamians and I think you know it's [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► it's also i think just musically very [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► interesting and it's starting i think [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► around i don't know 2004-2005 john [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► linnell started writing songs more often [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that didn't require in his mind a [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► standard verse chorus verse chorus verse [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► chorus pattern and know when you listen [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► to Mesopotamia is it doesn't sound like [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► it's you know a crazy contract that's [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► weaving in and out of all sorts of [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► different sections but when you if you [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► pay strict attention to it it's it's [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► very crazy the way all that works [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► together there isn't a standard [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► first-force pattern at all and I don't [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► know it's I think it's musically great i [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► think it's clearly great it's it's I [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► love it [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► let's pretend to listen to a little bit [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► of it right now hey man [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► I'm gonna pick Scotland's got you picked [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► one of my favorite songs i almost picked [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► it but you did so I'm letting you have a [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► exquisite dead guy but i guess some [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► rotating in his display case it is from [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► factory showroom is it not yes yes it is [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► a program i thought i had turned to [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► glare do one point I think we were all [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► picking songs from factory showroom [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► sometimes the way to land the plane [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► kicked i picked 12 and led kicked me out [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► and we're going to choose something else [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► 1996 yeah actually showroom is a very [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► strong album you know that has many [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► fantastic songs on it I think squid [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► squid a dead guy is the best [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► they might be giants on on that album [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► because it is kind of odd how it is [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► short [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► it has very few lyrics it's very [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► catching make sure thang who is this [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► exquisite dead guy [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► are they talking about I don't know let [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► in or Jesus recording or recovery or are [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► they just talking about the exquisite [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► corpse writing game [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► who knows beautiful harmony harmony it's [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► true and if they mention a skyhook which [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► i'm not sure what it is but I like it [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► could you picture that I picture the [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► exquisite guy like sort of being flown [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► under a helicopter from the sky look as [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► always my images just being suspended [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► rotating flying through the sky under a [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► helicopter now but not everyone's [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► opinion print that that could be it i [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► don't know what's gonna hook it all have [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► our I don't know exactly [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► this is a the beauty of the song is it [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► so short and yet so many possibilities [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► there's very little instrumentation it's [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► mostly just like I think there's a base [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► and maybe a little bit of a very subtle [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► drums but it's mostly just them singing [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► we want to harp in the Oregon going into [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► the leverage to the bridges what makes [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► the song let's pretend to listen to the [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► bridge right out my supposed to let you [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► no way I feel about you [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► ba-bop and there we go that was good all [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► right so that Scott continue pray [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► continue [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► that's it i'm a simple explanation of [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► the songs only two minutes long how much [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► kids to do I don't want to explain to [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► talk about it for longer than the actual [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► song is that's well apparently don't [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► have that problem that they have with [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► Star Wars so oh let's talk about [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► exquisite dead guy all night [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► well I i mean if you wanted to talk for [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► an extra medicine is dead guy it's one [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► of the name Abby Jones they might be [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► giants songs that I put in that category [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► of its it's a set-piece it's a [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► performance art song in a way that you [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► know some other songs on every car that [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► doesn't make it better or worse but I [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► feel like there are some and i think i'm [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► in the minority opinion here because I [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► think you all three if you really love [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► the song whereas i merely like it you [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► know there are songs that you can rock [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► out to when you can just say I'm gonna [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► put this on and whether i'm paying [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► attention or not it's going to make my [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► day better by virtue of my listening to [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► it but exquisite dead guy to me is a [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► song that one rocks out to revenge have [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► to it's a song that you experience each [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► time displayed because it's like it's [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► theater in a song i agree with that [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► actually it's not [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► I I wouldn't although Scott is a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► handsome man i would not pick this is my [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► close to my favorite from that album [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► with some of my favorite songs are on [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► but it's funny and I enjoy it and I [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► recall my wife and I sing along to it [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► the car every time it played and it's [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► just fun it is a symbol nights [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► interaction or something well it's it's [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► I think it's that we don't know the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► skyhook is we don't know what's going on [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► but it's all intriguing it's and it [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► sounds good and it's it's catchy and I [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► could dance to where I saw his mouth [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► move so I and i'm going to take the next [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► talk before I give it a sin which is [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► another song from faction room because [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► it's it's so darn catchy and this song [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► is I'm gonna double-check the title in [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► order to mark the bells are ringing [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► write it as medicine i pricked [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► called lossing twice daily but is it [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► that called the dolls are bringing great [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► fantastic song and so the reason I've [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► always always like the Sun and sometimes [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► when I just need like to get something [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► out of my head i'll play this song [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► because i think it's so catchy will [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► chase other earworms away and it's it's [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► a you know this talk is well let's [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► listen to a little bit of it first [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► doing it [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► voices telling [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► constructed a generation they probably [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► by the way [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► Congress [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► baby [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and so there's that great this recurring [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► thing its exquisite guy has the has a [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► pop on about up and up and up and up and [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► up everything thing up and and the bells [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► ringing has the bong bong bong bong [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► bong-bong-bong bunk but i like the bells [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► are ringing because it the first time I [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► heard them like I've seen that [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► science-fiction movie it it tells almost [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► the entire structures like is an alien [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► invasion people's minds are taken over [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► there's a little tension that the girl [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► you know this one woman it's this as a [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► girl need [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► shield from [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► by hand [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► p dude pays her staring [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► it's just this is beautifully written [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► little concise think it's as if someone [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► said ok tell me an entire story about an [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► event in you know 40 words can have a [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► Twitter style competition [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► oh it's it's basically invasion of the [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► Body Body Snatchers except instead of [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► aliens its consumerism and holiday [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► holiday consumerism specifically which [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► for this time of year seems appropriate [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► I it is one of my favorite kind of [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► oddball christmas songs in a way because [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► it to me that's exactly what it is is [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► you can't you cannot escape it it you [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► will get you talk to your better ideas [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► because I hear that I think this song is [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► being about mind control but I don't [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► think of its being about consumerism so [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► where do you get the consumerism from [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► what the great things about they may be [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► Giants as they try to do rhythmically [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► rich interesting things they do you know [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► syncopation they do what do you call [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► that effect with you it is it that [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► syncopation it's a common response and [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► you have like pop but we got two sets of [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► voices working in alternation there is a [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► musical term for it i don't recall the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► NK track singing the user in them anyway [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► so they to our stuff that's very well [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► it's very often when there when they [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► want to they can be rhythmically complex [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► harmonically complex they pull of things [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► from world music some of which sound [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► very obscure they'll use really bizarre [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► instruments when I saw them live there [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► like and the glockenspiel and bring up [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► will you play the glockenspiel after [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► this whole bit with a guy he comes and [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► goes being and then it goes away with [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► the clock it feels like Van baerle show [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► and horn exactly right and you played [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► the glockenspiel so they they like to [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► play with instruments like to play with [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that and i think this song its there's [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► aspects of minimalist music in it [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► because you're a repetitive theme that's [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► used the underlying components that [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► supposed to create you in and i think is [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► part of the whole musicality they bring [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► but it's just like listening to it like [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► singing along to it [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► ok so Lex here's my answer to you about [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► the bells ringing which is it is my [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► interpretation of it i feel that the [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► bells themselves are our I've [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► interpreted that as being kind of [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► holiday like bells and I feel like what [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► they're what the people are doing is is [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► shopping is is buying things it's it [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that's what the people miss you know [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► they're trying to fulfill themselves and [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► I so that's how I've always read it is [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► as interesting as a Christmas as a xmas [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► on where Christmas bells and the [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► compulsion to go out and buy things that [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► Christmas is what what's happening [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► the nice thing for me is that your [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► interpretation can co-exist very kindly [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► with mine so I it's it's it means it is [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► mind control but I I view it as being [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► through the reflection of sort of [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► consumerism but i also like the science [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► fictiony part of if you think about it [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► was pure sci-fi where where they didn't [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► have aliens come down there giant bodies [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► take over us it's its bowels there's no [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► explanation that off the tell stories [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► one of the great things about I think [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► music in general is that you can tell a [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► story in such short strokes because the [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the music itself is supposed to make up [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► and helps us paint the picture our head [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► and the negative things like the bells [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► ringing it's a-ok oral i don't care i [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► don't know the details [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► you got me drunk and hit the outro to is [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► so great [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► we have one more contestant dr. worm [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► Jason you like dr. which is also i would [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► have to say one of my many thousands of [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► favorites of their songs [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► dr. worm is from which album dr. worm is [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► the I think only studio track on the [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► entire damage one of the only studio [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► taxon severe tire damage correct [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► what's the other the severe tire damage [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► theme is that what you're thinking [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► well there's the severe tire damage the [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► but there's also about me [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► oh really weird bizarre at the very end [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► right okay it's the only decent studio [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► song will accept that you on the live [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► album severe tire damage where they [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► stick at studio track on the front of it [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► in order to sell it to people who might [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► not want otherwise by a they might be [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► giants live album and so it'sit's track [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► one and it's actually good album [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► management good rare rare ish stuff on [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► there that I like in the end the live [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► stuff too but and this is truly horrible [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► disappears because because although my [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► favorite my favorite I think bar none [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► they might be giants on his metal [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► detector and the geeky song that I [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► wanted to talk about is spiraling shape [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► also from factory showroom client has [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► instructed me to talk about dr. work dr. [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► worm is great because it is it is nerdy [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► but it's music nerdy and I think one of [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► the interesting things about they might [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► be giants there are a lot of musicians [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► who are who are our geeky but their [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► music geeks because they're musicians [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► right and they might be giants does both [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and cut has sort of strange stories [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► about you know strange people or things [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► that was about science or science [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► fiction concepts dr. worm is none of [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► those dr. worm is about a a diluted [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► drummer or a an up-and-coming drummer [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► he's invented a stage name and he's very [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► enthusiastic about it that he says call [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► me dr. worm [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► good morning how are you I'm dr. when he [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► gets to rehearse sort of who he is under [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► his stage name and the rest of the story [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► is essentially how much he loves playing [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► the drums and he wants you to come in [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► and I've lee i left the door unlocked [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► because i can't hear the doorbell and [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► playing the drums so loud [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► come and tell me if you think I'm [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► getting better with my with my drum [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► playing and it's just it's [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► it's very fast it's got the Bighorns and [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► it and he's a doctor was very [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► enthusiastic and there's some of the [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► turns of phrase like both my kids [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► they've been growing up will [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► occasionally be focused on something [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► very very peculiar and and minut that [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► they'll focus on an intense detail [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► because their children and trying to [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► learn about it and my wife and i will [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► just say to each other [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► he's interested in things because that's [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► the line and dr. were most interested in [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► things I mention things i'm not a real [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► doctor I am a real actual worm [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► they call me dr good morning [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► dr. war [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► I'm interested in things I'm not [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► dr. by [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► I like to play the drums [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► my [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► I can [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► this is [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► show you what [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► you need [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► I'll so it's silly and yet it's got that [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the the it's got a a protagonist who is [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► has this intense focus and is very [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► enthusiastic about something and you get [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► the sense that maybe he's not very good [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► at it but he's very enthusiastic about [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► it and that's why I that's why i put [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► that on my list of they might be giants [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► songs because I I like what it says that [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► they're writing you know there were [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► writing a song about a character like [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► that who's got that intense enthusiastic [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► focus on something right you never know [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► if it's misguided or not you assume it [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► is there's aspects of it makes you think [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► maybe it's not maybe at this striving [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► right he certainly put the cart before [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► the horse in choosing his stage name [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► while he's still practicing how to play [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► and as somebody who who wants roomed [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► with a guy with the drumset I i can [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► there's a one side of a Led Zeppelin [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► album that I know the entire drum part 2 [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► not the album itself i hear the album [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► and I get sweaty because I know the drum [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► part but uh so I know what it's like to [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► be around a drummer who is enthusiastic [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► but uh but yeah I assume he's not he's [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► not great because he's asking if I he's [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► getting better and he but yet he still [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► chosen his stage name you've seen them [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► perform that song live every day so I [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► have in fact I saw him perform it up [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► just a few weeks ago [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► it's it's become a real concert staple I [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► think because it's such a great stinking [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► song it against the Fed the pace of it [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► too i love how fast and and Pepe and [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► it's gonna play faster live albums and [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► my dear life a play day may be fast [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► yeah they loved it so much I always you [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► know I've seen them play that song with [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► with some horns and I've seen them play [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► that song where there's no for example [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► there's no horse its weaker you know [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► it's lyndell using his key that will sit [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► inside some trumpet sounds and it's kind [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► of better with the horns i agree i've [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► seen it both ways but what I love about [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► it is the lyrical improvisation might be [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► too strong with the lyrical liberties [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► they take with that's on both jobs when [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► they performed live you know I've seen [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► especially this that there's that spoken [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► interlude the song you know but well [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► it's it's sung in the song acapella in [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► the recording but then it live very [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► often i will start speaking there you [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► know call me back to where I not real [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► doctor [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► I'm interested stuff and you know just [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► as he starts you know playing with that [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► I really enjoy [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► and while he says he sometimes with my [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► point here going on live from any [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► changes your ex changes other and then [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► they do that [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► even better is at the end of the song [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► you know they're supposed to just saying [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► you know dr. were is the is the last leg [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► of the song song and perhaps harmonized [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► on but will very frequently i have found [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► flip because I've seen them live at [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► least two dozen times flavors really [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► seeing extra background lyrics like you [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► know i'm interested in things which is [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► not what does not actually up here the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► original recording a song that always [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► just kills we've seen them two dozen [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► times at least yes astonishing [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► oh as about I've seen twice yeah I've [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► seen them once i got a rock so we should [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► move on from this which is great tight [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► around maybe the lightning round now [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► yes if you guess wrong you're shocked by [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► lightning that's how we play this game I [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► that's like element of danger so Jason [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► when you go first since you taking up [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► the mantle we're going to talk about [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► some other nerdy albums are so many I [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► mean this is one of the things we have [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► to do multiple podcast on the news we've [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► talked about we talked about Paul and [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► storm we talked about Jonathan Coulton [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► we mentioned weird al yankovic and we [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► will come back to moment but there are [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► we could do entire podcast about some of [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► these folks because they have such a [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► huge ear visit discographies are [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► enormous and but you want to talk about [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► thousands of way in which i would say [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► Jason I didn't think initially I was [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► like after then exactly as a nerdy band [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► and I mention this to my dad and it is [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► so nerdy my dad listens to it so there [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► you go there you go there you know if [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► your dad listens to it but so you you [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► picked the song your song pic yeah I [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► went through a whole list of bands and [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► different ways of you know you are there [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► is a band of nerds but they write [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► straightforward pop songs is it people [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► who write about nerds that people who [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► write nerdy things I each other lots of [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► ways to define it and i went with [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► fountains of wayne which is a power pop [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► band and i love them and they're one of [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► my favorite bands of all time because [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► the songs they write they there's a [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► whole it's about a third of the songs [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► they write are these character songs [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► they're there about these characters who [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► are not the [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► kind of people you usually have a you [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► usually see in songs they usually have [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► songs written about them and their sad [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► sacks and they've got their obsessions [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► and they've got their their interests [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► that are our kind of the outsider e in a [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► way that makes me feel like that's why I [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► want to bring them up is that I I feel [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► like they they kind of reflect something [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► about the the geek experience of the [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► outside or experience and and their want [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► to choose from I know your dad mentioned [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► hackensack which is a fantastic song [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► it's also only 1i my creepy stalkers [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► playlist got Stacey's mom he really like [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► Stacy's mom which is a very very [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► peculiar that's what we had a little bit [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► of that that you can be started on this [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► being a little nerdy to in the little [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► stalkery but a song that i picked is a [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► song called leave the biker which is [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► from their first album which is the [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► self-titled fountains of wayne which i [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► think came out in like 96 something like [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► that the nineties we check all the [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► thousands of vici [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► let me check films are yes please do he [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► is your ear in New Jersey Lex so you are [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► the hub this the home team for you i'm [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► assuming there's a week II al4 we're [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► Dallas yes of course it's the AL pedia [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► so all the UH so for the first album and [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► what I love about leave the biker is [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► leave the biker structurally is is just [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► it's not like other songs because it's [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► not a love song its and it's not a [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► breakup song we know those from pop [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► music leave the biker the protagonist [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► and leave the biker doesn't want the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► girl although he likes the girl the girl [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► is every man's dream and he doesn't have [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the girl because he can't get the girl [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► she's with the bike she's with the biker [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► so there's this beautiful woman with the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► biker and the biker is big and mean and [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► drunk and homophobic and slow a slob and [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► this beautiful woman is with him [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► so all the protagonist really wants he [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► doesn't want the girl he doesn't want to [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► ride off into the sunset with a girl all [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► he wants with his body and soul as he [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► focuses his like hate beam on the bar [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► and the biker in the girl who are at the [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► bar [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► he just wants the girl to leave the [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► biker and break his heart so that he can [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► feel pain because he deserves it because [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► he's a jerk and that there's something [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► about that that [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► that story and that feeling of like look [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► I'm not going to get her she's beautiful [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► she's every man's dream [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► I just want him to feel a little bit of [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► the pain that I feel in my life and if [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► that doesn't say something about the [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► kind of experience I don't know what [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► does so play the bikers my choice i love [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► off leave the biker let's listen to a [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► little bit of that to give people a [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► flavor for the front go in my place [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► he's got leather and tattoos scars all [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► over his face [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► ask [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► special [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► can't you see [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► leave the biker and leave the biker [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► break his heart [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► please [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► the biker leave the biker his five [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► break his heart let's do Scott next [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► Scott you picked interesting band Moxie [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► for is sex or haha for multipurpose to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► the proven it's got an umlaut i'm going [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► to use it up well I had a little bit [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► just a little not for every way you can [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► take the dots on the unbeatable service [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► um you pick this band please tell us [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► something with a span of which I knew [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► nothing which is why you must tell us [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► I'm not surprised I so much promise [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► hails from Canada are they are kind of [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► well they've broken up sadly but uh they [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► were a pop folk kind of weird band I [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► suppose arm and they had their first [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► album which wasn't their demo but they [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► had a demo and that led to their first [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► album bargain ville which has a number [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► of fantastic songs on it [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► the one I picked as my favorite is my [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► baby loves a bunch of authors in which [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► chronicles the relationship between a [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► man who wants to go out dancing and his [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► baby wants to stay home and read all [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► kinds of fiction and if you did they go [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► to counseling and he hurts himself and [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► go to the doctor and the doctor says [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► I'll be with you as soon as I'm finished [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► reading my book and he's very frustrated [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► by this whole culture of people reading [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► about finally go to a party but its [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► authors night and so there are a bunch [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► of authors there and the name of the [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► song and they they saying about uh up a [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► number of authors many Canadian and I [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► like this song because it mentions [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► Robertson Davies which made me go read [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► everything that Robertson Davies rode up [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► and he's a fantastic canadian author so [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► check them out [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► also dead but he has a giant beer so [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► there's a joke about that the Sun [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► am i still really baby you should hear [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► the things that she says she says [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► hundreds dead I better go to bed with [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► Gabrielle see a market at eleven william [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► s burroughs leave on the like bell hooks [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► and flirting with burden because he's so [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► smart in this book i like to go dancing [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► maybe another bunch of Arthur's my heart [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► broke and it's just sitting there doing [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► some reading and so a moxie purpose a [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► fantastic good time kind of upbeat band [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► with lots of great songs and I have seen [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► many times I mean I won't see them ever [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► again since i since I don't think he'll [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► be coming back together but if they do I [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► will go to the reunion concert Scott [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► since we both lived in Pennsylvania [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► simultaneously for a while did you ever [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► see them in king of pressure [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► ah where were they playing in a gazebo [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► yes I was that chance we have to make [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► sure this God that is a bit easy when [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► you stepped on that punk kid and told [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► him to get lost that was yeah it was a [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► little kid in the face up [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► actually we're both simultaneously [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► Punk's kids so you know you damn kids [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► get off my lawn [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► get off my nephew gobo exactly my gazebo [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► that was a great concert they have a [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► joke that was the start of their gazebo [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► tour which I always found quite amusing [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► I don't really understand why they're [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► playing in the gazebo but I went it was [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► felt as if you have the opportunity you [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► do it is my thinking strip blacks we [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► leave you for last [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► I don't have another pic at this point I [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► decided instead of making a podcast [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► insanely long [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► I would defer but next time but since [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► you don't know anything about Kiki [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► apparently I know nothing about Kiki [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► music and never listen I don't actually [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► photograph like her work so that as my [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► fellow panelists know this was this is [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► and i think this is true for all of us [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► but this decision was you know very [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► difficult 1i I was overwrought making [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► this call because I i love so many gig [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► bands out of the Act venture to say that [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► there are very few bands like that [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► wouldn't qualify as a nerdy bands of [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► some sort but I did go at Jason strong [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► urging with Alfred Matthew Yankovic [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► better known by his stage name weird [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► now and you know we had my first [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► introduction to weird out that I [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► remember was far from his first album [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► Eno 1983 he's got his album in 3d with [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► beat it on it but I you know I was three [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► so I didn't really get into him for for [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► several years until he next parody [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► michael jackson which was a his parody [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► fat and i saw i had known the michael [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► jackson song bad and then I'm friend [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► says you've got to check out this video [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► and he didn't show it to me on youtube [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► because it didn't exist yet but we [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► waited for it to show up on MTV and we [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► watch it we gonna wait for chad hurley [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► to invent you to in order to like it [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► took it took years no week so we watched [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► this fat music video and I'm I'm history [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► I think it's hysterical i'm cracking up [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► i cannot keep myself together and I'm [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► thinking to myself and this I I can [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► admit this all of you because you were [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► very close but you know for a moment [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► there thing that was good that's funny i [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► wonder why he didn't make a song called [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► good because that seemed to me at the [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► moment to be a better parent of a song [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► called bad and it had been about [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► somebody who's really good and it took a [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► couple more i would I don't know who's [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► months or years till my sense of [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► appreciation for parity could really [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► mature a bit more than that but you know [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► the song that I have picked from Weird [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► Al i think is certainly his nerdy song [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► is the song white and nerdy a parent [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► even not hugely popular rap song by a [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► guy named Joe Millionaire called ridin [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► the course of that song is trying to [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► catch me ridin dirty and in Al's version [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► of the song he's actually I think [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► singing close to in the first person as [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► himself which he doesn't usually do but [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► he's saying you know he's having a hard [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► time hanging out with the gangsters [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► because they recognized that he is [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► simply too white and nerdy [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► go with friends for a while [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► just do white nerdy singers 21 nerd and [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► see my nerdy white [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► just do white nerdy just too white nerdy [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► just really really white [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► just really really white [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► mit skills opportunity nvm TS that's my [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► favorite and cd40 outside have a great [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► team i rinsed the contrary you'll find a [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► different station they're all my action [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► figures cherry stephen hawkings in my [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► library my myspace page all totally [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► pimped out got people looking for my [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► topic spaces you know why you're [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► thousand places still worth breaking my [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► sandwich prevent your name with the [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► minesweeper day you receive the same [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► main central place in place until rabbi [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► haven't grown at past yeah well I'm [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► number one for calculus just bought from [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► got it but I got a soldering gun happy [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► things in my favorite things on the [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► church but in a game of paint on the [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► trivia quiz you bring on the loose and [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► JavaScript smell of clean now really [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► qualifies it as an organization in many [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► ways especially because he himself is [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► exceedingly nerdy but he graduated from [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► high school valedictorian at age 16 he [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► he had an architecture major that he was [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► pursuing a caltech Paul at Cal Poly [TS]