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69: Love Conquers All, But So Do Guns

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 69 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► December 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► welcome back to the uncomfortable I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► Jason smell your host we are convening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► another edition of the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► book club and yet again i believe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/21">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► is our fourth thousand-page long book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/24">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► fortunately our next book is stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► king's book about the Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► assassination in time travel which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► like 20 pages right also a thousand-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► oh god help anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/39">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► today we are going to talk about ream d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► which is how you pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► by the way we checked Neal Stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► has a video where he calls it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► md it's really be its readme misspelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► as Reedy by chinese hackers but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► get to that Neal Stephenson's Ruby came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/60">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► out in September and we've all read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/63">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► took us that long if you didn't read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► don't why you want this podcast and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► you don't want to know what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/73">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► please don't listen to this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► because we're going to tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► happens we're going to talk about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► happens in the book so joining me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► talk about what happens in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► which is the purpose of a book club just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► getting out there are serenity Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► hello hi Jason it's just a check you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► read the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► I have indeed read the book the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► book the entire book right to be a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► maybe we can have that show off haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/95">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► well no it's okay i'm taking like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► months to finish cryptonomicon so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► right well actually never ends you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► that book just keeps going goes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► it's really a lot into the first page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► and it's I think I'm glad other voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► you just heard his kind fleischmann hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► Glenn did you read the local oh I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► this entire book right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► I like it that's that's that things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► looking up for the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► dan borin it also joins us Daniel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► assume you read the whole book this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► i read the book the whole book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► nothing but the book it Oh Mike so help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► me God and Scott McNulty hello Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► know you always read the book I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► read the book this time and I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► there are no spoilers because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► looking forward to read it it's about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► detective in New York in the 19th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► oh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► so excited so windy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► I guess we should start by talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► how this is a you know Neal Stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/152">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► is an interesting author he's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► some cyberpunk kind of stuff like snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► crash he wrote a very very sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/162">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► his last time out which was an M he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► done action like in a zodiac which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/171">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► actually a book like a lot he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► historical kind of you know with a with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► a sci-fi flavor but historical fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► with a baroque cycle so he's he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/184">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► all over the place and yet despite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/188">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► I was surprised at the content of reem d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► because it starts out feeling like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► going to be your sort of standard neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► stephenson even though it's set in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► present day which i think only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► cryptonomicon well now he's yeah so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► mostly it's obviously an economic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► maybe some of those other thrillers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► he sort of pseudonymous Lee wrote right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► right but um it's so but it more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► still it's like you know it starts out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► little bit like a almost like the cory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/217">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► doctorow book about for the wind after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► the wind right which is about about gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► farmers in a in a massively multiplayer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► game right you have the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► apparently had some conversation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► Cory said Cory was assessment for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► wind and Neal said something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► reading about gold farming and they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► cackle door something so you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► round up i think reading their books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► nearly simultaneously independent so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► theory is that is that uh Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► Stephenson discovered what cory doctorow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► is writing about 500 pages in and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► oh well then let's change what my book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► is about let's take a sharp left turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► listen I i want to make a point at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► outset that because what you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► through about genre is i think i got 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► pages into this behemoth before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► actually understood that there was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► to be no contra factual hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/268">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► particles or anything else and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► the science fictional elements yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► really it had because it has all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► tropes and feels of that terrain and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► extrapolation of the the most massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► multiplayer online game culture rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► which is the which is the invented more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► or less arco invented by by Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► fourth rescue is one of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► characters in the book it's not World of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► Warcraft right but it is like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► it's sort of the it's played a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► the next evolution of that so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► little bit of speculation in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► really it's it's our world although with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► Stevenson's traditional attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► detail that extrapolation is i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► hell of a lot better than ernest cline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► xin in ready player one in terms of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► the Oasis is versus terrain is much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► know i think is much more grounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► there's a good hundred pages devoted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► exactly what the terrain of the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► like with name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► thank you yaso so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/327">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► there's so much here because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► thousand pages and that's why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► podcast will last for a thousand hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► or maybe not but but I want to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► to so there isn't one is right it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► was surprised on the one hand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► there's nothing you know counterfactual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► there's nothing that seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► couldn't happen today which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► interesting and then and then despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► Stephenson having all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► genres that he's played in i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► surprised at the turn he took because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► end up in the last half of this book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► basically an action movie which is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/362">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► well I think it's well done but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► funny because it's not what I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► from Neil Stephens now I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► I expected I guess I expected something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► less common and maybe a a weirder you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/374">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► know less common kind of genre instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► of like guys with guns fighting other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► guys with guns but that's what we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► I was surprised that certain most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► neal stephenson's books he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► famous for going on tangents that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► enjoyable to read but you really lasts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► couple hundred pages and yeah like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► not sure what's going on in this book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► seems to have decided at one point okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► i'm going to get rid of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► extraneous it's going to be all plot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► 400 pages and as I am I going to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► put that in your pipe and smoke it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► what I found really interesting along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► those lines is also that like you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► out not only do you start thinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► plots going in one direction but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► are certain characters that you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► out thinking okay this gets pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► important and then you know some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► those characters don't make it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► way through the book but like so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► solace solace boyfriend right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► oh he was pegged for death let's be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/430">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► yeah but on the flip side there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► other characters you think are totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► like extraneous right like I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► you know cough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► yes it's so cool officer or I love III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► thought even I thought even Abdallah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► Jones of course who is sort of caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► topless in this random you know we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► through the plot i'm sure a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► he's sort of seems like a threat like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► random character to encounter like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► there is a plot device right and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► turns into this hugely important major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► character throughout the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► book it's like a relay race though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► like they're running this isn't this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► like an ultramarathon and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► characters are running running and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► a few of them like zula for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► makes the way all the way through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► make an excellent review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► yeah Peter hands off to Abdullah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► Abdullah becomes that takes up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► missing character position you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► really ok here we go well now we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► zulu natal Ivanovic sort of starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► as being kind of important and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► know he's he dies going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► marlin and I do know your name to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► who said something about characters who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► are so significant and then is willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► to to murder their darlings you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► sets up these from Yvonne is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► character and gets crazier and crazier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► and then he is called and maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► whole new bill he exits on a high note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► you don't want to be mean you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► any crazier than that certain level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► crazy for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► what I really like about ream d is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► actually I can't compare it to lost in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► way except it's lost except everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► comes together at the end but makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► lot of sense because you have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► pages upon pages of these various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► characters backstory you get a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► Olivia that's introduced to the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► of the book for you know you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► okay where did she come from she is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► been mentioned at all previous to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► and you just have to be patient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► trust that she's going to get woven into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► the story appropriately and she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► that I think happens with most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► oh yeah then you end up with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► Sheamus Costello later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► who's sort of you know comes up like 710 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► yeah i would order the characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► are introduced later in the book are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► better than only all but a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► ones that you meet near the outset like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► the characterizations get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► interesting by and the and the uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/555">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► know the military man I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► they're good kind of archetypes to yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22 ◼   ► well i mean but i loved for example i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► love the duality in the this whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► sort of starts off the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► kinda gets under woman between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► writers Donald and Devin you know I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► that part it is but it makes know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► there's no plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► they're really like you kept expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► that to go in more of a direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► wait a second i just realized i think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► did something to us since we've only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► the opportunity in our lives and may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► never have a chance to read this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► book again because we have jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► things it's possible that if you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► and read the book closely that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► riders approach to fiction is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► mirror two elements the book as you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► that I realized oh he might be playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► with us and the two writers are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► contending through the plot of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► some things that are implausible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► follow one path and something follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► another it's possible but now we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► read the book a couple more times so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► mean that's an interesting reading of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► i think that somebody could go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► no I mean but I i think there is a yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► there's an interesting reason there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► the tensions of like you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► popcorn me plot vs I think that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► ground date and those are sort of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► things that are clearly a war with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► Stevenson himself in this book that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► good catch going honda that's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► good because you've got you've got just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► to touch on this for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► you've got d squared who is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/629">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► completely just arrogant a Cambridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/633">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► dawn who is writes a I guess limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► amount of fantasy but it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► impeccably researched and Tolkien right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► yeah and then you've got for catalytic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► or don't just look brings them out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► he's a fantasy not and it it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► internally consistent and he just cranks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► out book and george george RR martin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► course no 26 year I meri teri about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/660">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► quantity alright i'm sorry you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► the quantity and the sort of all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► yeah you got this very easy he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► here after speed notice george RR martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► has more consistency know he is a he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► a pulpit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/676">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► to see novelist like a like a 1 terry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► brooks or uh honorary salvatori ok there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/679">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► you know I mean the guy is like the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► who write like the D&D books right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► the novelization of all that and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► crank those suckers out the level above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► admit he's making real money so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► part of making real money but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► necessarily be putting your great i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► not sure he's not being real money until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► he until Easter with to raising its your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► right right yeah he's making it up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► volume i can see the point but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► popularizing the the all the ideas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► the the dawn has he's the one who kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► of popularizers that makes it accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► and it is it is a part of the success so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► we're going to take Glenn's idea about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► these two warring parts of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► maybe it's an evil neal stephenson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► mind it's also interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► because the offer all of the highfalutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► this of the dawn the fact is it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► it's the other guy who makes it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► successful even though he breaks some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► the things that are in and and was back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/737">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► in right he has to come back in and fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► everything in the end right one there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► the Apostle pakka lips which has thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► you for what is to come forward green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► that that was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that entire section of the book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► they're just like know all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► words have no adequate molecule meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► and they often be rewritten and anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► that's your hundred-page digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► although it does serve as a plot purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► because the idea is that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► kind of war of the war the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/764">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► yeah of the different colors yeah I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► to come back to that we get the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► the plot because i have some issues with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► it but well it's it's a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► it's a fascinating digression now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► it's also somewhat the catalyst for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► a lot of this true enemy and mirrors yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► so structurally eat how this so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► so much here there's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► let us let us sum up so the plot here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► I think you can summarize it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► actually a very simple plot right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► there's of itself it's a story of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► family and some people in it and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► end the family comes back there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► overarching thing about the fourth rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► family I really might open actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► love i have that it starts i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► opening chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► we're thanksgiving and it's this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► who's like kind of on the outs with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► family and you don't know why and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► turns out it's because he left home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► became successful but but in a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► questionable way it and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► just it's fascinating and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► the his niece who is also kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► outsider and the texture of that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► the mud out because they're out in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► like Missouri right and now it's a Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► Iowa alright so there in the Midwest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► it's and it's cold and it's muddy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► they're shooting at cans and bottles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► stuff after a while the Thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► dessert is being served or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► it's just I love the texture of it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► thought you know what this is not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► expected from you'll see even somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► gonna go with it because i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► enjoyed that part of it well so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► story so he's I mean so here's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► the very bare-bones one which is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► and another follow developed a world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► warcraft like game he winds up hiring is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► nice after meeting her at this gathering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► she has a boyfriend who's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► slightly asperger e idiot and needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► raise some money fast because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► overextended the real estate market gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► hooked up with Russian mafia a virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► infects machine destroy some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► Russian mafias information and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► wind up in this worldwide trip is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► people get carried along to China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► because this crazy russian guy this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► of mafioso wants to looks like his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► of cards is falling apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► he wants to track down the author of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► virus whose he decides to personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► blame for all these ills they wind up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that's how the whole first arc of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► story is getting to China figuring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► out tracking down the people who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► the rim d virus which infected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► Russian systems unintentionally and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► lot of other people stuff they get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► then you hand off to the next part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► because they go in expecting to kill all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► these room d virus writers these hackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► or Stewart holding data free ransom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► instead they run into a muslim terrorism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► cell in China this industrial or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► commercial City they wanted firing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► firing on that apartment full of Muslims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► and Islamic terrorists who are planning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► to blow stuff up and then you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► handoff and so zula Richards nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► there's a programmer her boyfriends kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► the Russian mafioso is killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► Zula is handed off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► to Abdullah Jones and then takes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► ball any runs where he goes he goes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► goes and they wound up traveling again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► you know a large distances gets them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► of China eventually into Canada where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► through a large series of adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► they finally wind up crossing the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► through an area that Richard fourth rass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► when he was a drug runner before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► started the video game company had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► figured that was a way to avoid were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► controlled by going through old mines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► and meanwhile a British spy who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► to involve the China tracks and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► Richard tracks them down and Richards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► family the rest of them wind up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► sort of exactly survivalists but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► fundamentalist living on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► of this mining tunnel where it comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► so you get Islam Islamic radicals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► killing people across Canada joining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► together crossing into America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► hitting the salt of the earth religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► fundamentalists for the big final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/993">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► showdown what you think that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/994">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► good pretty good though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► that's pretty good friend to sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► main skills and apply its think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► two sides of the first is like we learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► all about the video game we learn all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► about the culture and whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► they're on their way to try and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► trying to stop in the second half is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► essentially you know Muslim extremists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► on the run terminating in this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► run across the border yet no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► that's exactly it you've got you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► half the book which is setting up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► the you know multiplayer universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► the gold farmers in China and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► figure all that out and then the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► half is largely this action story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► involving the terrorists in canada and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► crossing the border and all of that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► turns out you need to know almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► nothing about the entire video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► backstory in order to understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► second half of the book that pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► disappears after back-to-back yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► it becomes a communications tool later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► as opposed to a plot point Walton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► not to mention you know hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► pages there and there's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► hundreds of pages where Richard who sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► of his setup as the main character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► the first you know hundred pages just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► not there's no 40 years he goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► yeah by the book might be about him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► I kept waiting for him to come back I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► like that word where we're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► back to him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► I said it's it's like lost each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► character has their section it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► what kind of a head-fake an author can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► give a reader in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► we start at the very beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► book with Richard fourth rest and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► by the end of that chapter zula and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► Peter have pulled up and he's befriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► befriended them a little better said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► hello to them and and and i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► go somewhere and it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► without that chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► you could probably you would probably go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► in assuming that zula is the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► character but he gives you this head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► fake where he says no no this is richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► fourth-fastest that is the is the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► character here and he's not do list the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30 ◼   ► main characters her book is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► really soon but absolutely Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► bookends it is facilitating plot element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► but it's and she's a great i think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► a great character I mean she does things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► that are extreme but not unrealistic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► can say I can't believe that aerotrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► refugee adopting America's our parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► adopted parents killed gone through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► this managed to get her in on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► whip-smart you can see her being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► resourceful it's not like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► girl her or something it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► real so i'm sticking up for Mythbusters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► are it's it's things that somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► pushed to extremist with capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► would do she just sort of just low-tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► smart things right and she gets a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► of lucky breaks but he also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► realizes when there's an opportunity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► knows when attenuates for it yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► you have that nice section when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► all trapped in the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► they've this is at the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► they've been locked to two chains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► the broth Russian mafia is going to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► go kill the Chinese hackers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► she's trapped with two other hackers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► instantly take out lock-picking tools or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► I guess she she gives great yeah she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► gives him her Bobby their hair pins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► they instantly start lock kicking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► you notice she not being a hacker is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► well versed in the art of lock-picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► it does not spend her days idly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► practicing so she actually has to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► for them it's just a nice touch it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► like no not all three characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► expert lock Pickers it's just the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► as a hobby certain people pick up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► well but the to the fact that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► smart and does things like I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► one that got me was when she's locked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► the bathroom of the i rise in China and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► she writes the long note and sticks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► in the drainpipe just thinking like hail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► mary hey maybe somebody will find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► and I kind of felt like you know reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► that ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► reading in thinking and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► that's just kind of a throwaway plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► point and maybe someone will find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► like way way down the road or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► and then I sort of forgot about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► then came back and actually made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► actually turns out to be important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► i also got to say I think this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► also Sokolov's as well like he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► strong second player he cums in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► think at some of these Russian heavies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► me totally stereotypical and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► remarkably resourceful he's addy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► somehow a decent man even though his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► former Spetsnaz not even though he kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► he has the keys the kind of guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► always in books of this sort he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► kind of honor a co-designer whole yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► something's obviously with the soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► yeah it's not exactly pretty goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► because he's doing things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► logical and sensible his big problem he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► doesn't kill people out of anger he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► kills them out of necessity to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► the client or protect himself and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► further the mission and he's and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► dynamic with ivana right where he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► slowly certifying this guy pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► that he's actually going crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► trying to like figure out how do we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► out of this situation because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► the people above on of we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► really pissed off when they find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► how are we going to get out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► saves from three days of the Condor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► moment in there where Sokolov's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► well they want me to go out to this ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► but this is not always goes they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► you to go to the ship something goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► wrong they shoot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► she never know she never knows no Olivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► never knows what happened to me somethin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► went wrong it's like I'm not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► the thing they tell me to do I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► he was gonna die there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► there is no way he was gonna die he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► yeah I know yeah the one hand you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► he's like oh he's too clever for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► but on the other hand you like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► people died in this book right and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► would have been out of the question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► him to be like well he served his plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► purpose you know maybe he's gonna bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► it here he doesn't mean that's nice no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► but it's nice to have that tension right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► like there's too many too many like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► action movies where it's like what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► is the hero he can't die obviously right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► you know he's the protagonist we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► going to see him through all the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► the end but whenever you know an author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► doesn't mind killing off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► characters as we've seen several times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► earlier in the book you you get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► worried for the characters that you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► of like right because you're not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► they did easily they could kill them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► I can't believe nobody has mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► gore yeah I said I don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► pronouncement drunk or the Hungarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► Hungarian hacker rather lovely villa to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► love Lord kilgorn he's loved Lord I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► all the secondary characters in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► this wonderful look well I and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► chocolate is another good example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► somebody who's like kind of seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► well as he comes in with the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► maybe he's important maybe not and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48 ◼   ► turns out to be another very major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► character and i love i love the Triad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► that he force with he forms with you she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► and Marlon right like you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► they're on the ship and they're likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► candidate the engineer and yeah i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► love that sort of unlikely pairing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► deal is everybody is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► pragmatic you notice that in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► there are few insane people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► Abdullah Jones and and it off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► everybody else is like okay problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► happening how do I get out tonight huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► well you know moose and squirrel have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► chosen scroll a bomb final logo want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► bomb how do I get out alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► I jumped through a window Abdul Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► may be insane because he's a terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► but he is very practical as well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► here lyrics talking like he's one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► very smartly pregnant in fact he is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► business like that one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► really enjoyed about his scenes where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► gathers the various the various guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► first company's initial crew and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► he's got the ones who are sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► the one of the terrorists and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► together like well I BTW if if they ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► call me I'm in Canada but if they ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► call me for a job I'm there knowing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► nobody's ever called him and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► calls them into like oh okay all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► for the garage haha he's he's but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► kind of like sociopathically charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► right like he's got net but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► professional and what strikes me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► some of the people he's working with or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► not and you can sense a he he hates them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► right just like they don't I got to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► the ladies like you got your lucky its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► hard to find good help right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► know there's like Rapids B&C players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► he's got the razor was killed with a CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► by the way but he's got right he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► to make sure she's got yellow shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► well I also likes I can't remember who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► describes him as this I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► either a either Sheamus or Olivia but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► someone points out that he's not likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► he's not a martyr right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► he thinks he's too thinks he's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► valuable right you keep saying he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► wait for them the right moment but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► never the right moment you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► impression he's kind of maybe kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► coward like it in deep inside and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► of like thinks he's really smart but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► he's also kind of untouchable and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► he sort of slowly sees his plans all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► fall apart even though they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► carefully laid and he's devoted all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► these time to the men in one monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► wrench in the plan and everything goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► to hell yeah you know what i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► there's other arc of the story which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► that I think what I think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► things that I'm he's playing with his he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► creates these remarkable like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► argue in the past that used to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► couple of good characters in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► Stephenson book and everyone else sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► of window dressing and it's everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► in the service of the plot and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► there's a lot of movie mannequins around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► in this he's developed only a few really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► good simultaneous plots and a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► bunch of really great characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► sort of moves them all around the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► so sometimes you have things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► video game being predominant and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► focus on very plot e sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► understand the way of the world he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39 ◼   ► this whole thing going on we're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► to the wharf realignment on the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► then you've got all the stuff where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► very strongly character-driven like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► is not how you would imagine someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► would write the scene but this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► would probably play out like Azula and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► Abdullah stuff where she actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► respects her because she's on her AGame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► right she's somebody who if she were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:59 ◼   ► inside he'd be absolutely pleased to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► have you know working with him so one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the things that are this that did remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► me of other neal stephenson stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► mentioned the boat there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► segments one of things i always liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► about him and especially the baroque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► cycle is there there are segments of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► the books he writes that he willfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► commits to and that they they take on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► life of their own and they're not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► important to book and he could just move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► things along and say you know suffice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► to say they were on a boat and a boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► scene struck me as that it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► suddenly we're in a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► book which is there are people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► they're stuck in a boat and they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► gas and they're drifting in the South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► China Sea and that none of them know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► to be on a boat and they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► and that was great and it's so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► again that's like a whole very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► first off it's practically life of pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► but it's it's there you know and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► commits to it and and those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► and we've invested in you know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► doesn't get that shirt ripped and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I felt like that when they when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► crash-land the jet in in canada in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► snowy back reina de yeah and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► and they find a you know like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► disused you know shut down like mining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► camp and they're there for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► then they been and then the guys come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► back and they've killed some people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► stolen there's there there's smoke truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► or whatever and then they use that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► was fully committed to in a way that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► really like how he can kind of take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► set pieces and compartmentalize them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► and really commit to them so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► get engrossed and and it's really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► know i said this about a few authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► that i really like it feels like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► could be a whole books worth of an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► and he just tosses it off as you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► couple hundred pages inside this or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► hundred pages inside this thousand-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► well that's the same thing with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► the word realignment I mean ready player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► one you know would have fit neatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► inside a few chapters of this book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► terms of the amount of plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► sophistication and the length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah ready player one through five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► importantly that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► strikes me about Stephenson having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► 2.55 of his novels I is oriental decimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► places well i know well as iphone pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► but it's interesting because a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► lot of the time when i was reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► book and then we're not was also reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► snow crash and now cryptonomicon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► feels like if he had wanted to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► could very easily been a george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► martin let's write five or six books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► about this topic but Stephenson phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► seems to find a way to craft a coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► narrative over the course of one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► that doesn't necessarily feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► should be chopping it up into segments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► which I find interesting is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► mechanisms running I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► thing is he's a he's an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► watchmaker in his worst books the hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► springs go out of control and destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► the inside your kind of left with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► like the end of cryptonomicon i will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► spoil it for you ready I'm left going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► like there were a lot of plots and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► all unraveled at the end I never felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► like a Stephenson's worse problems while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► he was bad attending yeah always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► bad endings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► he's all like he's gotten he's gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► better i mean i think i think baroque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► cycle through an M through 3d he's shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► progress in each of those I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► horribly disappointed at the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► is like it's what i would say obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► it was like 40 disappointed culminates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► in a huge climactic fight right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► know just exactly what you expect to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► a nice little day newmont at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► where it sort of wraps up what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► to the characters in case you're curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► that's right and and that's that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► you know he's I think you know knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► when to stop has always been his problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► and I think either he's got a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► an editor who's like hey Neal you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► plenty here this is good wrap it up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► he's just sort of figured out like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► yeah I've come to the end here I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► really impressed about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► ridiculous amount of plot and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► ridiculous amount of characters kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► came together at the end because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► really you have them coming from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► angles you even have Marlon yuxia you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► have them winding up in the same place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► in Iowa it's just impressive how how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► makes the travels and the fact that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► through this entire book I had no clue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► what was going to happen next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► couldn't even fathom it I assumed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► with the terrorists all right they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► going to get to Canada and maybe the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► but the rest of the characters no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► well he you find that later again if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► if i have the gumption someday to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► this book i have read and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► two or three times and there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► breadcrumb see plants when officers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► tried before shot to win but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► realized this like going back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► looking a little bit like oh yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► know back there in the first scene he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► planting the seed you know yeah he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► of Richard was a drug runner he figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► out this great way to get through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► border without having to build its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► tunnels and so you know over that period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► of time it's like you realize oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► where his brother settle to sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► black black black sheep of the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► the one is really far out there and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► you go along you realize these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► converging all of these crumbs to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► resort in the north side of this tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► and the homesteading people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► fundamentalist on the south side and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07 ◼   ► can sort of feel it all sort of coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► together and it's going to all pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► do that through that tunnel one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► the other looks like a GPS right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► know point and you've no point being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► that you have no idea what route it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► actually going to take so here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► here's my highfalutin analysis of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► which is I was struck by how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► this book is about people being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► culturally out of place it in in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► foreign culture or out of alignment with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► their culture and i'll just run off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► few examples you have the war of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► realignment which is all about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► forming cultures and drawing lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► between themselves that that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► comes out of this universe built by d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► squared which is then a lived-in by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► Skeletor who does not really have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► same he doesn't really match it but on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► personal level you get zula who is a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► African child adopted by white people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► in America you've got Abdullah Jones who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► is a I believe in african descent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► Welshman who converts to Islam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► becomes a jihadist you've got Olivia who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:29 ◼   ► is an Englishwoman of Chinese descent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► which allows her to be turned into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► operative for mi6 in Asia even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► she's very English you've got Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► and Richards brothers who are both sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► of like disaffected from culture the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► brothers are totally cut off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► american society basically living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► this homestead Richard is cut off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► his family you know you've got it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► on and on the these where where so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► people and so many situations in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► book are about people who are not i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► on one level it's just they're not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► what you'd expect they're not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► they don't fit the mold but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► that's purposeful that that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► this almost everybody in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► somebody who is that what you show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► from another part of China and has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► culturally is complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► really different from where she ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► and and she's missing lines like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► everybody in this book is a round peg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► strut that stuck in a square hole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► and you get this with be scared Scotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► squared and skeletor you already sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► mentioned d squared C squared the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► land and well and nobody's going to tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► d squared is never as d square never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► play the video game and your is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► dragged and totally invested in there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► build up contingency legions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► skeletor doesn't know this highfalutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► literary work because he's a whole pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► and he gets dragged into this thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► arguments about apostrophes right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► but anyway I think I think it's good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► know I think Stephenson is that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► certainly an undercurrent here is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► the these are all about people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► in who are not sort of what you'd expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► in the role that therein and a and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► love that I i think that i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► great but I i think it's got to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► most obvious examples being sulla and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► Abdallah Jones who are not if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► not from where they're from and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► some says something about that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► their character and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► I mean but in database root for writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► it creates tension right because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► different from all the people around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► them and that creates conflict and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► that's what drives the plot forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► everybody's in that situation in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► book that's why I think it's more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► just him structuring it for conflict i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► think that he's he's trying to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► on purpose to have it this this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► in some way I think about being somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► who's out of place right down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► fact of somebody who doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► an MMO can't really understand what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► going on inside the MMO because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► not they don't fit in the culture it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► all a cultural misfit even though even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► though the Russian even Ivana is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► like broken he his bosses don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► he's not behaving properly he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► fit in anymore and sokoloff doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► really fit anymore because he's got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► job but he doesn't really clearly he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► doesn't really fit what they're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► him to do which is it goes on and on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and it i just kept being fascinated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► finding that every single person views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► themselves as being like disaffected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► from the the job they're in or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► culture there in or they're different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► some way you know and i I just I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► that was that's my that's my take on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► I don't like to talk about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► characters we didn't like or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► know there are some characters that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► disposable like Peter I think Peter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► boyfriend as my boyfriend is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► because he's sort of unlikable when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► meet him and you figure well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► the character development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► we're gonna learn to understand why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► should like him it's like no he's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► of a jerk he makes really bad decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► and they get worse and worse and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► he when he's killed i gotta say i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► the fact that Ivana is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► indifferently at times a gentleman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► he thinks doula is worthy of respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► because of how she comports herself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► her intelligence and he even off despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► being in this situation where he's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and he's lost all this money from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► consortium he represents that is chasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► to China he still trying to defend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► notion so Peter is killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► not because Peter did something wrong or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► croston he's killed because Yvonne up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► offended that Peter has left his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► girlfriend chained by yvonne off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► downstairs to die and Peter should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► why does Peter steal the credit cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► that gets him in this also he's got he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► behind it's a mortgage thing days under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► these underwater he's underwater and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► he's worried he's gonna lose his loft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► and by extension that means that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► can't run the thing is doing its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► it's it's not that well defined but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► think it's sort of supposed to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► like a bad reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► well you haven't had a very casual thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► instead of borrowing money from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► filing for bankruptcy is like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► used to do this I know how to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► I'm going to do one last haul my last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► job that I retire and causes everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► else to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► yeah a sort of blend you do blend is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► other thing is the thing that set this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► all in motion of course is Peter on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► one hand then Richard who completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► essentially innocently spreads rindy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► virus so that it it triggers this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► Peters callousness the casualness of can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► you give me a USB stick he hands in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► and then that's where everything goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► right don't forget don't forget Wallace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► in there to write the match has been lit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► a fleeting character who and yet we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► got that chain right Wallace gives way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► to Avon of gives way to Jones you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► and sort of you know everything goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► downhill from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► I like Wallace though as as briefly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► we see him as well as long as you last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► yeah yeah I was surprised that the ex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► we killed by the mob the monster who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► also the gamer I do kind of enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► enjoy that there is a rent like i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► that sort of bizarreness that bed comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► with this fact that like you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► view hand-waving oh it's a game it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► really popular more popular in World of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► Warcraft and the people that we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► playing it include the bookkeeper for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► the mob basically we get the name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► Kelly realize it shames yeah the CIA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► operative I was thinking even just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► throwaway character that Richard sees in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the diner and he looks over he's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► coffee shop out visiting Skeletor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► and there's a guy playing t rain and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► he calls up you know his buddy at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► the office and says oh yeah how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► people are logged on from this diner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► whatever like we got the impression that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► there's people out there in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► of no Missouri or wherever he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► visiting this guy who are playing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► game this game is huge i can we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► let's talk about the word realign middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► because I think that's an extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► interesting development in here which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► to say basically they end up so like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► you know game of this sort of a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► you know promulgated on the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► we've got good we got your characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► and evil characters whether it's by A&E [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► or something like warcraft you can be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► the enzyme and all the sudden you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► there is this sort of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► realization that it doesn't really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► sense because the people who are quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► unquote evil aren't doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► particular different from the people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► work photon quote good so it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► arbitrary distinction actually says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► same coin but they need it right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► it makes the tension it makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► conflict in the game and so this war of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► realignment is shifting from instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► it being about good versus evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► it's about something very different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► I think you know without sort of delving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► directly into it i think it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► taste right now that's what it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► comes down and it emerges from it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► emerges from the game it's not intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► by the game and it emerges from the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► that the game is being played by human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► beings who have differences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► different worldviews that go way beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► picking when you set up the game well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► i'm going to be evil because I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► be one of those cool characters that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► only available in evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► well I think it kind of reflects on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► game itself because when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► the the reason why terrain was created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► in the first place is Richard basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► says well you know why was popular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► that's great but this basically gives us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► a way to monetize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► these chinese gold farmers and make gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► farming an actual legitimate profession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► see already you have that where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► Americans are playing the game for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► completely different reason than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► rest of the cut the rest of the world so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► you already have that imbalance and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► bring in even more well you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► people who want to play the game as d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► squared envisioned it you know with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► know with all old costuming and correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► colors and things like that and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► have and and and this is a real tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► with a lot of online games where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► like there's the people who want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► for the like the role-playing story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► elements and then there are the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► that were there to play you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► hack-and-slash game and don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► really except the stories just there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► a crutch right you know the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► there's a crunch and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► other people who are just really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► everything that's that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► created by that world and and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► very I think that's a very real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► distinction in you know a lot of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► that exists today and so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► fascinating to see that taking on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► what if those were to become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► factions and I mean I don't know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► there is there an implicit sort of class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► warfare almost between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► given the representations that we get of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► like Donald and Devin you know as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► two polarizing figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► oh it certainly seems like adequately oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► one of them lives in a castle and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► other was in the trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► yeah good point it's an excellent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► they're both kind of majestic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► infrastructures in their own ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► well and they're both kind of jackasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► right i remember reading a remembering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► lord of the rings and then sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► Shannara and you know if I refined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► childhood recollections right so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► different kinds of things like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► Shinar like yeah there was a mythos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► think i got develop more but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► really like a big hack him up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► it was much more of a hack them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► Vision Quest you know broad strokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► thing versus you know for like a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► created in order to enshrine languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► with a grammar that a cut cambridge dawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► had developed and attracts different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► people some people want first-person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► shooters that they just kill lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► stuff and I mean penny arcade the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► is constantly full of basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► tension between this is a really subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► game and look we have these scrolls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► plant that kills y'all kill John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► and that's I think that's a constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► tension between the sophistication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► some aspects of game design and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► desire to be highfalutin you know here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► a virtual environment which we could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► anything so why we just shooting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► but it's like the constant arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► that we get over whether or not video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► games are art right you know Roger Ebert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► i know has delved into that pool and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► variety of other people as well but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that idea is it is there some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► higher can it can it reach a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► realm or is it just about killing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► or is there are inherent in the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► something even if it's just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► killing people like you know that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► this could be a whole book and yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► sort of ends up being falls by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► wayside as Randy progresses i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► say that I one thing i like about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► novelties i'm assuming because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► way Neal Stephenson works that I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► a lot this was a day after school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► special about the Russian mob and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► chinese people living in different parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► of the country and British Columbia's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► byways and highways you know what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► writing long features for wired like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► believe he traveled around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► possibly twice once to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► fiber-optic and where it was being built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► in weird places like the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► indonesian jungles and and another time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► we followed container ships you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► like what it was the unit of container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► and how its developed and where they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► and I feel like this is kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► equivalent equivalent of that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► the he went the the the detail is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► refined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► I don't believe he made it up everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► here played massively multiplayer games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► before and not massively I'm not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► heavily now I mean I played games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► have that multiplayer element the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► serve you know like an MMORPG minus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► first and that's not what you say I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► played World of Warcraft once or twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► alright wow I I'm i love you i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► little bit i played in the beta of world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► of warcraft which I realizes now since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► that was when my son was in utero that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05 ◼   ► like seven years ago now that their 7th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► anniversary i believe Josh my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► played that much more than me actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► and then and then she had a baby and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► then there were two children and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► was that for World of Warcraft but sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► of a lot more time we did play at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► and and and that gave me enough of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► perspective on it I think 22 to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► it's about but I wonder what that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► be does this book make as much sense do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► you feel if you've never really played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► those games do you feel as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► understand what they're about by reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► this doesn't have that kind of tour you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► know I'd feel speaking as someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► never played an actual MMO but has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► played a lot of other games i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► there's stuff that translates even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► that two other you know from other sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► of gaming or for other interactions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► people it there are very recognizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► ideas in here and it's not a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► stretch in you you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► someone who's universe kind of in gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► culture like I'm familiar enough with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► the tropes and thing and an element so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► that make up an MMO to sort of recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► them here and it seems pretty clear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► know that this is a pretty accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► description of what goes on and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► hard to extrapolate you know the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► people that you're going to run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► people like you know the trolls right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► who are there to just sort of do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► know cause havoc to a certain extent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► and proper rivers understand right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► the griefers and you know all that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► mean that's really interesting and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► think I think what's fascinating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► about the world of T rain as its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► described is the sort of key that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► Richard hooks into in coming up with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► which is let's take gold farming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► legitimize it and and build our game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► around it right and not only do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► like you know basically in order to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► sure that it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► duplicate the exact same sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► structures that we deal with in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► life if you had to farm gold what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► sense i mean it's if you if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► to produce that kind of a game you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► that kind of a structure to back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► you can't just randomly put gold there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► because somebody is going to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► the algorithms and Exploited right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► you wouldn't have to explain that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► book write and say like all the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► golden shows up with you get into how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► works and it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► I've never done an important either so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► have no idea how they play but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► feel I don't feel lost in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► environment but i have to say i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► again Stephenson is accuracy the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► that technical details were accurate was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► awesome especially after reading ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► player one with impossible you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► verizon see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► whatever crash yes and it's it borders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► on precondition I i like um one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► things that always struck me about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► world of warcraft is the do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► where your character died is unlike him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► in a ready player one when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► character dies and they're dead and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► gotta start over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► yeah that would really haha umm you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► into like a limbo state and you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► to where you were uh you know the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► time off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► yeah you gotta go to run as a ghost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► go back to you know it's you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► basically a time penalty when you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► and so I love how you know it's got its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► got a death mechanism and it's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► idol mechanism where Richard when he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► taken a viewers when ya when he richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► has taken by abdullah Jones and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► dragged it basically across the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► you know the last thing we see is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► character which is the basically the god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► of terrain is it just auto walking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► jogging back to his home i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► little detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► yeah I i want to read my my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► little passage from this book which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► think you may be fine surprised about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► what part of this book it's from but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► just made me laugh and it's so absurd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► and it's it describing so so donald d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► squared the the highfalutin cambridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► Don who has his castle on the Isle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► Man's he it says surrounded himself with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► toadies who are basically Society for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► Creative Anachronism type people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► he's living as a consultant to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► high-tech company he's living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► castle that is trying to be immaculate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► immaculately medieval so what happens if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► you want to contact him and and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► worked it out and this is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► passage which was like this so the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► pipeline network like this down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► Douglas the primary city of the Isle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► Man the girlfriend of one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► medievalists who dwelled in a flat there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► i happen to rather like tampons would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► read these squares email as it came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► filter out the junk and print out a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► copy of anything that seemed important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► and zip it up in a waterproof messenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► bag when it came time to walk her dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► she would stroll at the waterfront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► promenade until she reached the wii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► elephant train station its northern end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► where she would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► the bag to the station nation with later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► handed over to the conductor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► narrow-gauge electrical train that wound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► its way from there up to the interior of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► the island at a certain point along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► line it would be tossed out onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► sighting and later picked up by d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► squared is gamekeeper who would carry it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► up the hill and place its contents on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► the desk of the in-house troubadour who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► had translated into medieval on sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► chicken and then sing and or recited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► d squared at mealtime the lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► manor within dictate a response that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► would follow the reverse route back down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► the hill to the girlfriends laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► oh wow it's a wonderful guy that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► have been the most unrealistic part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► the entire but I don't know some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► actually it's correct their lives to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► more like that larry ellison is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► some kind of Japanese reconstruction on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► top of a little pop in woodside so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► in order to get an email to larry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► ellison like me to send in just a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► actions you actually have to assassinate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► three people to send email larry ellison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► it's pretty takes a big toll so be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► careful as I realize that's ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► but I mean there are lots of directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► great it's like great detail but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► it so he's created his own kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► physical tr8 right space created this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► this replica of an age that never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► why go into the internet when you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► just buy a castle exactly but I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► that when they need he goes into the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► know into T rain he doesn't have shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► right but he doesn't need to buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:10 ◼   ► because they cost of these like I waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► money on shoes I don't you choose here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► and that's fascinating know that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14 ◼   ► that's an interesting point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► because the you this is this guy who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► who insists upon you know authenticity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► right very similar to do like he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► to look real and yet when he goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the game it's I don't want to waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► money on shoes he has very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► respect for the game at first right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► it right and that's fascinating because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► it's a divergence and not you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► a snob right like that's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► what he is he looks down on all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► and so it's funny though that he forsake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► his own principles to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► once he gets immersed in that world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► what's interesting to me there is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► completely snobbish about the game until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► Richard basically is like hey look you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► can earn money here you can pay for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► these wonderful things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► I'm putting in your castle and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► help us build a world your knowledge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► this culture is valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► right i mean but that essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► undermines to a certain extent right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► like because this whole thing is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► know he didn't last and / yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► exactly mr. I mean that six-shot you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► sell out and make money but go right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► we're back to that and so he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► saying that the taste is kind of a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► in the end right you know like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► doesn't you know he doesn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► the only run skin deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► well you know and if he's he's a Don [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► who's running a food made money ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► fantasy novels who's already sold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► right I really didn't see it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► he you know he think he like Tolkien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► he's come up with the language and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► know the whole society and culture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► know he's kind of like you kind of pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► from is that guy who desperately wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► to be you know respected academically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► but even though he really secretly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► wanted to write all this like trashy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► fantasy so I want to talk about the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► of the book because it does end in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► hail of bullets and uh I don't read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► lot of books that end with this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► gunplay and there's like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► detailed I I thought it was strange that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► he was thinking uh experts on ammunition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► and and and weaponry in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► acknowledgments but no no it i see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► because it's incredibly detailed in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► and I just wanted to know what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► thought about the action sequence at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► end we've gotta chase we have a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► different groups coming through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► mountains there's a helicopter that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► shot down by a guy and then somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► blow something up but then there's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► should go to your booby traps in tunnels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► and there's a UH exchange of gunfire on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► a hillside or around like a guy was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► anymore mind grabbing his chest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► yeah and then and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► there's that you know the shack and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► the houses in the settlement and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► the terrorists coming down from through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► the air coming through the tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► another the other terrorists were coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► up the street into the neighborhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► I mean he has so many pieces and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► messy and but it's it is exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► um you know it's not what i expected i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► just wondering what you guys thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► that the the end because the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► drops all pretense of being about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► know p whatever we've said this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► about it and in many ways it just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► down to people with guns getting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► right position so that they can shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► other people try mean I I've little I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► read a lot of tom clancy I've heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► few I've read a few tom clancy's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► there are some tom clancy's that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► kind of you know the kind of read like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► this it and you know it it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► reminiscent of that and yet somehow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► you know maybe I maybe I just maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► myself and caught within that war of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► taste and and wanted to be better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► that but I mean it is gripped write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► unit's gripping it's page-turning and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► think you know he does a very good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► of sort of not only making it just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► what the hail of gunfire but also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► know we do have some some relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► stuff going on in these last few pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► because we have you know Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► thinking he's basically you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► he's just happy that you know he got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► Sula back and happy that she'll survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► you know if he doesn't make it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► we get you know a number of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► characters who just sort of are working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► towards some other goal and we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► their relationships and interactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► with some of the other characters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► i was surprised in the end that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► thought more of the characters that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► liked we're going to bite it and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► the only one who really the old we lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► to right and they're both kind of minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► characters I mean not in there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► importance but in their screen time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► yeah well i was i was kind of I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► he did such a great job i was far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► interested i should say in the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► the t-brain aspect of this because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► thought it was so interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► original and I was kind of disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► when it i could it was there is a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► shift into ok now it's just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► a thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► I mean it's a well-written thriller but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► I was hoping I thought the book could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► it was good but I wanted to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► amazing and I just kind of thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► ended kind of like a cliche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► well that was that was my feeling when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► they made the turn is that I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► think I wonder if this really is him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► realizing that cory doctorow did a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► book about gold farmers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► an MMO it you know in China and i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► will do something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► well i should point out you having for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► the win which I don't like to think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► don't think there was a minority opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► at the time or only one also read it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► the wind has you know Chinese American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► people and other strange nationalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► spring the globe and conspiracies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► mafioso and things being kicked down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► people being killed unexpectedly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► middle of the book it's a big shaggy dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► story to a very different kind of want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► lot more political than this because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► not sure there's a only the moral of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► this story is there don't live it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3356">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► don't be a terrorist on the left one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► killed exactly don't be late again vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► you vs well I mean I did the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► themes are august i think our are part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► of it that that you've got not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► family and the fourth rest family that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► have a lot of differences but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► you know I know it's hokey but they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► that is one of the messages here is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► people pull together and they may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► some differences but in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► the you stick with the people who matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► to you and you see these different oddly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► paired people come together and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► that's sort of a theme of it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► not exactly something kind of deep an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► earth-shattering you know the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► is that everyone wants to belong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► something right so right all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► outsiders exactly all the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► looking for some connection which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► also kind of cliche but you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► theme in lots of stuff and and we do end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► up with a lot of them paired off at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► end right which I thought was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► little it turned into a little bit until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► I guess Shakespearean combinational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► couples everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► yeah everybody's getting married at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► end except for except for Richard a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► of love story hiding inches thousand off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► there is but not i mean not one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► really makes any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► no it's mostly gen hey we're all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► it's like okay so Olivia who i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► actually think is a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► character one of the funny things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► Olivia's when she said on her mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► she specifically told basically please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► don't have sex with anybody which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► like hey wow that's what I'm just a lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► is she makes equipment like James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► gets to you and how come I don't ya at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► what I mean she's the most i like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► relationship the best out of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► girls you because it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► that has a substitute go through all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► that and then and then there are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► island right they swim to the Taiwanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► island and and they you know well we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► tired and you know we got to spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► night here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► alright and that's adding one of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► the things that my friends used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► criticize Stephenson about in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► earlier books is starring in gratuitous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► sex scenes all the time which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► still a little i mean he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► cryptonomicon and in Snow Crash to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► certain extent like it's just like out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► yeah it's probably the sexy in here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► it doesn't it's kind of weird like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12 ◼   ► it makes sense into a certain degree in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► the in the illogical plot but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► didn't necessarily need Bolivian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► sokoloff i felt i was earned right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► mean yeah they have the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► relationship with anybody I mean like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► much as I like gore and Zula his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► fascination with her like it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► yes on it's sort of like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► sees it's like love at first sight right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► and I mean I like too much better when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► he was the foil to Peter and like Peters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► a jerk and doesn't really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► anything but soooo does and stronger was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► like hey you know like i'm kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► gentleman you know at least be polite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► but like the fact that he then goes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► the way across you know around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► to track her down is a little bit thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► yeah you did get the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► Stephenson he wanted to get some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► together he wanted to be about love in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► the end straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► love conquers all people and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► seemed no one love to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► love conquers all but not as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► got unstuck and unhurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► I i do like Abdullah Jones is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► a in a by nearly by animal that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► like you know it's an ok it's a cougar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► at Penn or whatever he says it is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► it is it's a it's a it's a cougar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► mount like what does he say says it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► it's a big cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► yeah it's just a big cat but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► of course because nobody in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► then Richard I mean that's the great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► know loop there as you open with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► shooting guns for the hell shooting gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► to the beginning and the end with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► you know shooting doing the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► have to do which is to shoot Jones & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► Jones finally being flummoxed after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► many thousands of miles and thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► there's nothing operatic or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► about that that death which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► kind of appreciate it is that in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► which is finally got a shot and he takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► it and Jones is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► it and Jones is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and that's it I was wondering I mean did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► you guys find yourself wondering who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► gonna get to do it you know like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► i'm certain poetic justice right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► kind of expect Zullo more but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► same time you're kind of relieved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► she doesn't have to be you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► that sort of burden or what have you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► you know have to you know kill somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► face like that or something but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► know it's interesting I kept wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► who was going to turn out to be 0 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► gonna turn out to be Sheamus was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► know Sokolov I don't know after they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► bash in Richards brothers skull with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► own prosthetic leg I feel like Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► kind of gets the honor there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► why makers you know basically to design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► shoot up his best friend and get him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► blow himself alright that was spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► that was badass and I do I like cat i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► like i like his little digression at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► beginning right was riding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► motorcycle and he gets the corn stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► like shoved up his eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► oh yeah terribly terribly grows it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► kind of forget about times before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► goes away for like 700 pages then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► comes back and he's like that so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► wrapping up what are we what do we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► what you know in the grand scheme of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► neal stephenson and his books and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► just sort of that's as its own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► what's the verdict on windy always buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► kilogram of tea from a short Chinese one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► wearing bright luminous i gotta-i gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► fortunate said that the other day we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► recently by worked out didn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► I I mean depends on your definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► art out and she ever go home again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► oh that's good question know what so uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► so what's the verdict ran what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► think I quite liked it is again having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► only read to stevens and books i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► started with no crash and then i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► this one so far my my records pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► good of course i'm still halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► cryptonomicon so anything there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► really a quite light my kryptonite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► economy is Krypton is worth weather for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► the journey if not the if not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► destination so Scott what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► of this book I have conflicted feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► about this book after you I ready player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► one either before or after this and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► like 14 million times better than ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► player one haha there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► comparison love uu x 0 scat well its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► trip which ready player one it's so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► may I don't think he would hate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► book that much I didn't like it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► was stunned level of hate and yeah it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► set where we did a whole pie Kassai we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33 ◼   ► don't need I didn't like it i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► so if every remind very successful i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► thought it was a fun book but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► thought I have to admit that he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► missed an opportunity to write like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► great book and i know i read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47 ◼   ► interviews with him after reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► book because I was like this book is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51 ◼   ► anything like what I expected and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► just wanted to write a thriller and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► he wrote a thriller have you know check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► you succeeded neal stephenson yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:02 ◼   ► alright Dan what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► I quite liked it as well you know our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► colleague John syracuse I asked me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► other night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► should I read this and I SAT there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► thinking about it for a while trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► figure out how to answer that question i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► mean i think i recommended to I a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► people including I think I told him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23 ◼   ► the end I think he should read it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► not sure if you like it or not but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► think it's a good book and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► like Scott says a kind of it goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► their a direction obviously that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► don't expect a lot and in such is not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► is very unexpected but unexpected book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► for neal stephenson but then again all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► of neal stephenson books are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► unexpected this guy's reading like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► like a huge epic about like the Mongols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► among other things so but in the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► the day I i really like it i had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► minor quibbles and flaws but in it grips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► and it keeps you going right like I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► wanting to read the next page and in if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3838">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► you know sort of some it down to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► think that's a that's pretty successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► giving you know reader to turn the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► to want to turn the page is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► so that's the magic trick d laundry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► your part of a writer and he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► accomplish that a thousand time so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► and what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► I think this is one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► students and novels and I actually quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► you know I I like NM i read if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► that you have to establish base camps at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► various points in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► be supplied with you because it's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► trip to the top and then you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► down the other side that's right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► you have to climb down with the quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► literally actually go and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► together with old down the Avatar I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► to the east but the but I've been all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► worth it I thought he did a terrific job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► in integrating like keeping the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► that that we like about his work without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► pandering to us you know it doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► sort of oh I don't know it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► Moby Dick is kind of like that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► put that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► I bet your partner gonna start cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► tag urban television in that you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► likes to be heard that villain and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03 ◼   ► middle of you know fighting away i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► have 500 pages on your abstract whale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► oil but he and he said he submerges that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► desire just like a whale here and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► it much more riveting story and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► i like that i was surprised I was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► of like okay wow this is different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► then just raced through it read it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► I'll compare this to Great Bear a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► years ago that is a sci-fi author by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► trade I think now not really consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► that he can move the book called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► Quantico that was sort of about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► American racks anthrax attacks and had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► plausible scenario about coming created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► somewhere and there was no mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► man traveling around the country and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► weird attacks in Islamic extremists or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► Jewish extremist something in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► perhaps and and so forth and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► think I don't feel like that pulled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► off like he just couldn't make a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► story without having supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► ridiculous elements it was he was rooted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► in the real and he couldn't make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► transition give up the things that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► Greg Barrett what what he is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► Stephenson I think you know he tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► tell a good story in this time he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► did it just it just moves along there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► a point where I'm just devouring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► book as fast as I can which I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► recall ever having done with anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► but maybe we start crashing zodiac are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14 ◼   ► more like that snow crash is less dense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► but there are a lot shorter and shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► you still crossed over too many times or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► it's just you know I think I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► his weakest book i think almost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24 ◼   ► diamond age which I feel like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► know what you like that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► great stuff in it that's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► ways lots of my favorite of his yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► Scott nice you're wrong down with me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► have a land of evolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► Stephenson fight club episode clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38 ◼   ► but diamond a job that was full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► clever stuff but I don't feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► come together and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► extraneous things lots of sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► know weird cultural ideas the end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► throwing a blender and then make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► believe was real but I great stuff at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► this I felt held together as a real as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► an interesting work without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► going too far astray from his core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► liking this thing we like about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► thank you Jason what did you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► oh thank you for asking Scott your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► mobile uh I liked it but i want i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► some caveats III I like that it has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► even though the ending is really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► ratcheting of the plot machinery Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► Stephenson has a real problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► endings and I like his i love his work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► really do it's so inventive i love his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► digression sometimes the digression of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► the best part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► they're just so delightfully strange and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► fully realized but his hands like Snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► Crash such a great book and in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► is just a disaster it he doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► what to do and and I feel that way in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► lot of his books and sometimes I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► like the length of his books because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► can't figure out how to end it so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► just keeps writing hoping that you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48 ◼   ► struck down and they'll say well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50 ◼   ► unfinished but here it is and so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► like that this book has an ending and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► don't mind that it ends and in a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59 ◼   ► hail of gunfire I what I'd say is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:02 ◼   ► it's a strange conglomeration of a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► at as as interesting and and strange as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► it is that the book takes a left turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:09 ◼   ► when sulla decides to send them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► wrong apartment in China because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► really what this is she says go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:15 ◼   ► third floor instead of the second floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17 ◼   ► or whatever fifth floor into the sixth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► floor might what I would say is i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► this book would have been better if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27 ◼   ► stories were more integrated and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► wasn't a left turn and so what what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► ended up getting was when you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► that climax with the guns that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► also something happening in terrain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:46 ◼   ► there's more you know it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► simultaneous and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► and it's part of a bigger story and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:52 ◼   ► where I felt let down with I just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► let down that he was dropping large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58 ◼   ► elements and that you know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► messier than i thought i would like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► feel like I don't have a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► what he did but I feel like it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► of too big of a change for him to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► so he just went ahead with the left turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► and my sort he throws are in ballast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► overboard in order to you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► achieve or or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► let all the air out of the balloon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22 ◼   ► land the plot or something right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► right yeah it's something sure those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26 ◼   ► little words was a template so you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► throwing all those metaphors out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► until I hit enjoy the chase for the up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► with what you know you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► it's sort of like what I what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► to have at the end was was the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► integrated a little bit more with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► of the other kind of technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► extrapolation stuff no I i totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► with you because the video game at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► point you're like wait a minute they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► sort of this brushed off that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► thing that we've been talking about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51 ◼   ► inner pages in passing here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► that's been connective tissue suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► it's completely unimportant compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► you know the local police department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► flying in a helicopter which could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► suddenly shot down by the air-to-ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► missile yeah yeah so so I liked it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► that was my that so that would be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► take those I wish it was more integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09 ◼   ► together instead of it just being a left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► turn because as clever as that left left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13 ◼   ► turn twist is in a way cuz you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15 ◼   ► whoa I'm surprised it goes for the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► of the book and it ends up not seeming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► so much as a clever authorial decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► as it does that he regretted the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► he was writing and decided to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26 ◼   ► something different and at so i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► that that he wrote it he's learning how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► to do an ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► I wish that it had been more of a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► work instead of feeling like a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36 ◼   ► he started and thought better of and bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► wrote something else and then sold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► whole thing to us that's what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► Scott thank you for asking will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► regret it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:46 ◼   ► no i agree with you that I'm under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► surprised how much we all like book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► was i was thinking that I might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► odd one out or one of the other ones out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► and that the parts of it like as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56 ◼   ► but I was great read and I'm glad we for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58 ◼   ► once we were all like his style and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► inventiveness and his intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► it's gets let him get away with a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05 ◼   ► think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► yes this is truly respected respect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► fact that respects as a reader that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12 ◼   ► thinks we're actually going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:12 ◼   ► interesting stuff he has to tell us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► not up to walk us you know take us by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16 ◼   ► the nose through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► yeah yeah and so and so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► i'll buy you know I need nail Stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► anything because you know he's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► writer with lots of good ideas and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► smarts and and writes about things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► I'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► and even though he's got his faults be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32 ◼   ► it's worth taking a chance when he when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► he does something new and so yes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► though it's it's it's flawed and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► not what i would recommend to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40 ◼   ► who wants to read first Neal Stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► i would probably recommend snow crash or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► the diamond age or cryptonomicon or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► zodiac which is actually in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► more the mode book its most like this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► that there's a lot of action but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► what it is from the start though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58 ◼   ► exactly and that's where it gets back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► my complaints about this is that i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► it's almost I don't feel it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03 ◼   ► bait-and-switch I feel it was him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05 ◼   ► thinking he was going to write one story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► and then deciding to write another but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► in the end perhaps he should have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10 ◼   ► back and done more work to to spackle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13 ◼   ► that over i mean i think anything to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15 ◼   ► certain extent as I was saying about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18 ◼   ► know cryptonomicon I think it's true for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► a lot of his books that the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:21 ◼   ► reward and reading them is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► reading of them not necessarily in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► you know where where it ends up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27 ◼   ► think we know we agreed about that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29 ◼   ► cryptonomicon I think that's true with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31 ◼   ► the baroque cycle as well which is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► say not that book doesn't have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► i think that that series has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37 ◼   ► serviceable ending but the the interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► in that series comes from all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41 ◼   ► that you encounter along the way right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43 ◼   ► that are just his fantastic his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45 ◼   ► digressions as you were saying and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► interested in detail he gets in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49 ◼   ► these things and thus makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► fascinating to us the readers things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52 ◼   ► that you wouldn't think for fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54 ◼   ► you know the economic development of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► know Europe right right in the 16th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00 ◼   ► century it's like wow that had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02 ◼   ► sounds boring as hell what I feel as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05 ◼   ► we've come to the end of our book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► did everybody enjoy the tea and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09 ◼   ► a little lemon cookies missing just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12 ◼   ► lucky next time I'll make scones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:16 ◼   ► skype scones enjoyed the complaint was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► delicious kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:20 ◼   ► yes everybody take your complimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:23 ◼   ► ammunition as you leave I'll take two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26 ◼   ► Clips before our NATO rounds you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28 ◼   ► shouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:29 ◼   ► it's through and and somebody here gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► a claim or no on the claim under your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36 ◼   ► seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► the door is gone now because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41 ◼   ► claymore was under it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► oh well I let's say thank you Jason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44 ◼   ► inspiring me to Rita this very long book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46 ◼   ► which I would have done this soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48 ◼   ► would not enjoy this much otherwise so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50 ◼   ► thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:50 ◼   ► a while why you're very welcome i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53 ◼   ► happy to inspire you to read long books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55 ◼   ► it it's very sad what I'm the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57 ◼   ► who has to read these thousand page long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► book so I like I like a bit of that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02 ◼   ► do it too yes but my kingdom for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05 ◼   ► 300-page book for pete's sake these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► thousand-page books are going to kill me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► so until next time on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12 ◼   ► book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13 ◼   ► I'm Jason still and i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15 ◼   ► thank my guests here around our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► table they're finishing your tea and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20 ◼   ► scones right now serenity called well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22 ◼   ► thank you thank you Jason Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:26 ◼   ► thank you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► o earth tones forever earth tones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► forever nice glad and Fleischmann thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32 ◼   ► you for being here and reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► thousand-page book with me thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35 ◼   ► very much and Dan Morgan thanks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:39 ◼   ► always as always you're welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41 ◼   ► you're so lucky to have been invited let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44 ◼   ► me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46 ◼   ► until next time on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► thanks to all of you for listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51 ◼   ► buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4492">TS</a>]

01:15:07 ◼   ► ok boys mhm alright so wow that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:12 ◼   ► that snaps out of it doesn't be ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14 ◼   ► because it's okay well that's enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► your silliness now get-get yes ma'am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19 ◼   ► that now and alright alright alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22 ◼   ► boys for tonight on that that's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:28 ◼   ► this podcast / goodnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZjgX8/4528">TS</a>]