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63: Like a Good Book Exploded

 

00:00:06 ◼   ► the incomparable contest number 60 every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/6">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► october twenty LM welcome back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/10">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► uncomfortable podcast i am your host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/16">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► Jason L we're in the midst of talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► about gigantic fantasy novels in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► previous podcast we talked about George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► RR Martin's latest dance with dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► and in this edition we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► continue our massive fantasy tome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► discussion with Patrick Rafa's new book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► The Wise Man's Fear joining me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► podcast as always are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► dan morgan serenity Caldwell John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► siracusa and Scott McNulty now i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► say that the wise man's fear is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► sequel to the name of the wind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► we've covered in episode number 29 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► the uncomfortable titled magic fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► however I wasn't actually on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/53">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► podcast because at the time I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► know the name of the wind illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► it's george mr. but I thought they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► the wind Mariah comments concerns anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► they the the sequel also a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► thousand-page fantasy novel The Wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► Man's Fear by Patrick Rothfuss and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► read that one too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► i I'm fully up to date on the both saga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/73">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► as it were can't even pronounce his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► that's pretty good but you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► first one and the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► yes I have read I've read them I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► them both i read the first one so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► could listen to my own podcast so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► supposedly supposedly there is only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/92">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► that's really yeah I i kept I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► waiting for the kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► killer chronicles day 3 and at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► of book 3 is like wow I thought I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► you this would only go three days but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/102">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► think we're over time so let's just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► back and finish it booked for no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► my my first question for everybody is do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► you think that book 3 will finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► past or are we going to get some present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► our is the framing story going to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► the primary story at the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► this run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► well think of how think about it done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► far like what's the overall story arc of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► these supposed three books it's like bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► guys killed his parents and I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► it's going to be like he comes of age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► and has some sort of conflict with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► bad guys to kill his parents but we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/134">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► 2,000 pages and what does he really done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► to progress in that story arc well get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► bad guys to kill his parents we got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► out of college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► yeah he was called you learn how to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► magic fridge and he kind of learned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► little bit of magic stuff and he figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► out the guys who killed his parents are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► that's good that's a step out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► basically is that it exists and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► they're bad but they're only here only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► figured out they exist because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► proving the existence of some guys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► fought them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► I love that piece that's it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► like discovering exoplanets by seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► the gravitational shifts in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► stars or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/167">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► well he likes the you know he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► on the guy but seriously 2,000 pages he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► has not made a really significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► progress in his quest to avenge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► death of his parents and fight like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► time was spent a lot of time doing other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► things two thousand pages with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► things but so what I say is he gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► finish up or we can have time I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► think he's gonna have time to just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► through the main story arc in book 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► let alone to have like present-day stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► where the old John it turns out he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► actually found who killed his parents he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► just he just gave up and working about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► working apartment have a basic story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► then where do you go to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► present-day stop rafas is not afraid as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► an author to just skip over stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► when he there was a shipwreck at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► trial the trial was really exactly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► and then what happened yeah no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► it's good i think it's great and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► that's how he can end it in three books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► because he'll just say okay and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► bunch of stuff happened that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► really interesting but I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► tell you about it and here's the climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► and I kept those guys keep my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► that felt good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► what was kind of cool about this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► that we do start to see the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► things about clothes that that make him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► such a legendary figure right we see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► doing all this stuff that nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► has done you know I see him going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► that crazy fairy realm we see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► training with the warrior guys we seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► like you know murder that entire caravan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► basically and these are all things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► then become stories of him and we we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► start to realize that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► stories are inflated and out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► proportion I'd that's my favorite part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► of it honestly is hearing is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► present framing story when the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► the bar arguing about like the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► about clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► it is I find that fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► little bit of metafiction it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► these world you know these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► thing about this legendary figure oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► he was 20 feet tall no sword was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► thing or whatever I kind of enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► yeah I you know it's for me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/273">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► strange thing is that is that not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► he is bold enough to say well suffice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► to say there was a shipwreck and i ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► up naked penny listen town right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► that's kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► the weird thing to me is there are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/287">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► things that feel like digressions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► they're probably important to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► overall story but still at one point so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/294">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► i think i'm watching a story of a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► coming of age and learning things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► University and then at one point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► like well we're gonna take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► diversion and you're going to go to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► other town where there's a guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► kind of like a king but he's not a king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► and you're gonna be in you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► be in his service so you go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► there's this whole digression I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► learning how to play a game and out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► all the coins me and I'm going to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► the guy and I'm gonna befriend him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► this is a strange digression and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► the King says I'm gonna send you on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► it's like wait now we're in a digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► inside the digression and we're not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/326">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/330">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► and then we are on the mission there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► the the he goes into the fairy realm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► now what it's like with three what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► inside the the round parentheses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► then inside the square bat brackets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► then inside the curly brackets right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► it's like how deep in its its brackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► all the way down Jason yeah wise man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► inception evidence that it's it's framed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► in this story the framing students with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► you right after the framing stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► were four levels and it's in a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► you're reading in the story of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► what so so that's the part that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► the part that killed me is like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► bold enough to say i'm not going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► about the trial I'm not gonna talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► the shipwreck and yet something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► like you're going to meet the guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► learn about the court and often but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► think it's far east and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you're going to go on a mission and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► you're going to meet new people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you're gonna have adventures with him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► the trees and learn with this guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► got martial arts skills and then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► going to go to fairyland have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► very sex for a while then you'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► back it's like you know wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► and they don't have sex with ninjas but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► i think that the i think i made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► point in our the podcast about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► book is that I think the book is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► about storytelling right so and can both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► isn't building his own legend so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► and I have to we have to you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► kind of a shaggy dog story right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► he's just kind of popped around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► doing all these kinds of crazy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► and the real story is the framing story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► that isn't really much of a story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► he's telling his own story and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► so he's telling the story of how he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► to where he is but dude can we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► trust what he's saying I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► that's a whole part i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► Scotland and that's fascinating i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► if you've ever known somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► really great it like likes it now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► sit down in a bar and have a drink with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► them and they tell like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► engrossing stories other life I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► it I've met a couple people over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► years were just like it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► you just always want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► happened after that right and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► that that clothes very much that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► kind of figure where it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► you're just kinda hooked on what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► telling you and and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/442">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► necessarily you know to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► maybe you want your wonder where it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► all goes like you know overall but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► the same time you're just too engrossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► in these stories to necessarily care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► immediately maybe at the end you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37 ◼   ► can't wait well what is the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► that but i think i think there's a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► when you're reading it and you're in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► where it's just it is very engrossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► let's recall how this story begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► though allowed his book begins around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► this book begins when I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► many it is because we're all reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► electronically but it seems like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/469">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► big hunk of pages where it's like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► drinks at hog works and he has no money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► and then is often the distance and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► borrowing money from debbie and Ambrose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► is on his case because Ambrose is me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► that went on for a long time like Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► did we do a whole like look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► stuff but they gonna go somewhere so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► was relieved when days are finally let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► do something different they repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► every single thing from the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► within the first year you wanted 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► then finally that I had to invent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► something yeah like I was given a poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► and i had to get my my tuition and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► was large and I fucking say what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► will about the University stuff but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► all it's all written so enjoy i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► that I don't mind it so much and despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► any i'm a sucker for university stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► so yeah it's it's repetitive and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► boring but it's fun and there's music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► and and you get to I feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► learning more about the world in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► well we learned about that in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► book though that's why i was happy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► he left and when he went through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► these digressions i found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► digressions much more interesting then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► university life even though as Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► points out they seem to go nowhere haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► i like each aggression was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that's a cool little setting and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► okay i was another little setting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► the ferry sex with blonde but even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► the very sex they had the thing to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► in the tree which is interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► then we're on to something else and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► story about the moon and and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► before we go any further I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► recommend highly chill Walton who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► a book that i just read that i liked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► lot Joe Walton the author Welsh author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/551">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► is blogging a reread analysis of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/555">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► books on tor.com and it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► actually because it sounds like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► are lots and lots of things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► really embedded in this story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► first book and the second one apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► rafas wrote all these books is first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► draft before we went back so we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► go rewrite so he knows so this it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► like he's making it up as he goes along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39 ◼   ► their stuff in there and and it blew my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► mind reading the blog post because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► they're there is the story that's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► told here in a lot of detail like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/584">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► one that really blew me away is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► in the second book when he said that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► Court of the mire and the mire it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► has married the loculus lady and she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/595">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/601">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► she hates um whatever the demo room yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/601">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► the gypsies the edema ruh which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► both as a member of and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► reasons is because her cousin sister on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► something ran off and married one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► totally closed mother his mother in yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► and in fact if you look at the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► book one of the songs the song that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► mother yells at his father for singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► ends with a rhyme that at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/627">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► looked like she was saying that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► lacked less and it turns out that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► the name of the lattice character who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► his mother's real name and so I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► that the fact that it upon scrutiny this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/641">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► story actually has more going on than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► you'd think because I you know you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► the sense of that I notice of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► when he's in Fairyland everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► fullerene says is in rhymed couplets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► even though it's not written as verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► she speaks in verse so you have to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► of read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► out loud and figure out that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► she's doing lots of nice touches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► that i think crank up my my estimation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► of this story a lot that it is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► feel rich even though i am laughing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► my stuff when we're in a digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► inside aggression inside and aggression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► inside a frame i still don't call that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► good story though that's maybe like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► has interesting it that's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► soap opera plot points where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► interact now and I wouldn't say so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► there's a writing question or conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► and and the character that goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► some sort of change and like it i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► don't I mean I like those in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► worlds in those settings and i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► reading you know about them and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► but in terms of storytelling I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► story like it dipped ability even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► something as big and flabby is Lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the Rings still has an overall story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► ring they got destroyed they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► big long journey that you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► is a bunch of crap in the middle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► there's still an arc now maybe the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► book will do that but so far it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► two books of treading water pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► treading water in some cases but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► entirely an arc i would argue that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03 ◼   ► character changes from book 12 i mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► you look at where he is when he starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► out you know in terms of like we get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► backstory and then I think the scene the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► scene in that whole book that gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the most sort of like recognition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► this this character change changing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► when he murders that entire caravan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► right like in cold blood essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► right like that's that is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► different guy that like that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► university studio i'm happy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► learning stuff just hanging out with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► friends having some drinks playing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► music no and then I murder a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► of people he was always a hothead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► jerk low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► ya know there's a difference between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► hot-headed jerk and murdering people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► what I don't know I didn't see it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► character because he was always getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► it under his skin anytime anyone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► anything about his quote unquote erase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► but really just his profession or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► whatever the Gypsy people you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► hate them and he was ready to kill them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► and second everybody but yet but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► if that's going to be where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► going to go with the story there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► bunch of other stuff there that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► contribute to that and and I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► i said i think the things that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► the best are the things that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► actually contributing to the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► that works against my estimation of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► overall story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► John you're right you're in digman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► wrapped in a riddle is true and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► the story is the story of how he becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► the man in the framing story the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► so it's not yet it's stories like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► tracking down who killed his parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► that's what contributed to making him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► the character that he is he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► not really getting any closer to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► guy that I disagree with that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► know my vision of the guy in the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► story is that he's much older than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► guy in the regular story so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► maybe he is there no no it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► be like 34 is yeah he's they say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► he's he he yeah he said he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► surprisingly gotta lose all of his magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► powers and all this physical ability in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43 ◼   ► a very short time they have one bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► but does he lose it though that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► question right because he is just acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► or is he we don't know does he lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► or lose faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► I mean that's the real question right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► because he gets beaten up at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► but it doesn't matter whether he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► allowing that to happen yeah but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► he let i think i do i read it into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► that he allowed that to happen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► he was a you know trying to keep he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► hiding from something we don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► or why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► well I i read that as him screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► legitimately because he and I grace for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► over one was saying they're about lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► of faith that you know they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► there's clearly something has shaken him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► to my reading because you know clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► the whole twist there at the end is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21 ◼   ► bast hire these guys right to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23 ◼   ► try and trick him into being him all his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► old self again and it didn't work so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/866">TS</a>]

00:14:30 ◼   ► know you can certainly make the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32 ◼   ► that he's he's doing this and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► putting on a show but that that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► maybe that you know lives up to his epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► nature oh I knew I knew you were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► to trick me best so I played against you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42 ◼   ► right but it felt a little too genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► to me the way that he starts to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► something right and then screws up even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► like figuring out he's like martial arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► moves that's that's what he would do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► he was faking it but no I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► I've his entire his entire frame of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/893">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► reference for me and these in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► framing story just he feels broken every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► scene you read about him in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► framing story I mean it's like his hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► is dulled and he just has sort of a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► know a hunch when he works and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► still sort of get the the spark of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► what he used to be when he's telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► stories but and a general thing like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► you look at him virtually look through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► the the way that roughness is describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► the character and you don't you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► shred of the man he used to be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► thats that's how i see it it is a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► sack that I suppose the counter-argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► to that is he supposed to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► masterful performance to like it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► some ways it's like he's piece body into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► yeah that he was performing they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► still say that he was faking it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► is a sad so yes he's kind of like Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/940">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► Murray what they could they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► it's more I think it's more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/944">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► if he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► yeah so what do we think about whe about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► Jenna who is continues to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► this weird character that just she's--oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► she's so she's so great and and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► she's so she's also so mysterious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► she has a mysterious patron and and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► the exception of the scene where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► basically where he eavesdrops on her as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► she tells the the girl that she can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► prostitute of various kinds or she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► find another line of work to be in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► i thought was kind of interesting but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► i find her problematic because she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► seem kind of like this flat empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► oh it's the love of his life but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► not that interesting she's I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► maybe because her story is so wrapped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► in the overarching story we only see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► in one in one perspective exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► you only see him from which will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► very clever reveal but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► we have two books of her being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► completely flat and boring well so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► Ambrose Ambrose another flight character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► we have no Ambrose is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► one-dimensional he's not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► character there's a lot of I complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► about the characters in the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► and it continues to be the case in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► Second a lot of cookie cutter character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► and even even the main character i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► think it's still kind of marry soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► within the way that he's good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► everything that he tries in an annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► way and another issue i'll get to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► we get to a later section but that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► jenna is the flat test because she's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► one-dimensional but Ambrose is also one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► dimension but we just accept that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► hear the antagonist is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► important he's he's not the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► antagonist and I keep waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► clothes to kill him and have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► basically ruin his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► yeah battle things happen I mean we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► alluded to the fact they basically gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► kicked out right well accepted yes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► actually does it kill Leon von clairol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► yeah yeah I don't know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► officially get kicked out he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► strongly suggested that he leave so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► unclear whether we've seen that or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► but I mean if he murdered Ambrose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► like really had to leave like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► just differ is a self-defense what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► it's interesting that all the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► that he seems to be put in are ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► where there's an authority that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► control over his life he goes right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► the University where we had a book and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► half practically of his life being ruled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► by the rules of this university where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► you have to pay tuition and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► do this but you can't do bad magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► these people blah blah and it goes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► into the mayor Harvey process that guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► whereas another another place where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► not in control he's got to be nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► the Kingsley guy are also is gonna hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► him or kill my keys at the mercy of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► rule system bronze ring yeah he's all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► has been defined system in any second if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► you runs afoul of the system it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► life-threatening thing either because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► he's gonna be poor and destitute out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► the street and out of the university or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► biggest are just gonna hang them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► the guys capricious and very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► and then he goes into the Adem same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► situation should we kill them should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19 ◼   ► trained him i don't know like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► always at the mercy of will train him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► and ven killing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► didn't see that one coming he's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► at the mercy of these systems that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► did invent so and even in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► another situation like this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► goes from one set of I think of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► school like if you are in a school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► system where you have to abide by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► set of rules that you think arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► unfair whatever every place he goes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► like school program where someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► is in charge of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► it does it does have that IDC assertive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► feeling to it though doesn't it where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► wanders around from place to place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► there you know I the odyssey is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► like the original anthology series this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► myth like and now there will be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► adventures here for a while and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► will move on but boring bureaucratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► because it's like a rule principle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► managing this the King's gonna hang your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► you didn't follow the right rules for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► these ninja people's it's the bureau and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► kisses the Cyclops have a very clear set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► of rules roddis on the door to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► Cyclops's cave it said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► employees must hand wash hands before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► they return to work and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► that sort of thing right there ass ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► without the event the LED ring for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► Cyclops would ring and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► yeah exactly so can I talk about women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► I don't know why Ren doesn't bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► up because she's supposed to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► female representative but I continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► date especially in fact happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► yeah I haven't had a chance to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► about the women you to talk right also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► so artists artists of the sex part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► the women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► in this book gets to have guests to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► sex with the sexy supernatural being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► the universe is at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► Maria and who teaches him the ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► players right we don't know and a ninja [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► warrior woman who mixes casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► commitment free sex in with her training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► and who if you knock her up won't be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► you for any responsibility because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► doesn't believe you had anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► with that baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► well that's her closer this is yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► is that what you Larry Ultimate Male and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► the sex fantasy book where all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► desires will be fulfilled in multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► possible ways you have your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► leverages you have your sex goddess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► have your warrior woman is just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► for casual sex now for fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► well we did go eighteen hundred pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► with him being a virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► I know but like it's just ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► like it I its juvenile it's silly its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► movement I'll that the female characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► are it's it's a parody of itself I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► know if he meant it to be a parody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► like can you add and I got so so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► this is my theory on on women and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► general the the way that the killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► chronicles are lined up is that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► it is a story of both and the way he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► going it's very much I feel like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► single character and this includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► Ambrose antenna and everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► seen through his eyes and as such is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► told through the perspective of him at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► that point I feel like I'm and I may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► terribly wrong but I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► reason why didn't it comes across as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► boring the reason why Ambrose comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► across as one-dimensional because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► only seeing both perspective at the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► that he's at and hopefully when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► into the third book i'm crossing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► fingers that things become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► three-dimensional but it's the older guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► telling the story that I brought this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► in the first podcast like I was in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► that theory but it's the older one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► telling story its not I know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► saying like what is he telling it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► like this is what I thought when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► 18 and I was an idiot and what we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► have a counterexample right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► they're there are no women in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► framing story really right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► no I mean it's well any have em and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► that's the other part that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► part we see through chroniclers eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► right we have we have no I idea of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► we treat women how women are described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52 ◼   ► there's no baseline we only have the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► past narrative quote relating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► stories of women so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► but if you were telling the story when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► you were 16 wouldn't you be saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► boys I was such an idiot a 16 here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► what I thought about x y&z but he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► well I don't know I feel like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► fair amount of I was an idiot overlaid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► in a lot of this story jumped off a roof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► right but that's what he doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► that about the women he doesn't say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► night long for dinner and she was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► wonderful you know he doesn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► contrast that we do have one at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► one Orie who I think is one you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► female character that's actually not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► mite yeah some i will develop a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► that one right but I'm saying like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► not she's not a sex object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► she's not you know I you serious flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► I think she's got interesting there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► there's a story there is a story behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► the only one that's not available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► sex is the mentally handicapped one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► because him being sexually attracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► there would be too creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► I don't know if she's mentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► handicapped well you know I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► your brain is broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► yeah but she I assume she's a neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► who went into yahoo and that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► was my just clearly not so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► appropriate for couples to be telling us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► that love who I caught a glimpse of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► leg in this sexy drag that she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► wearing up from the sewers you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► not but every other every other woman we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► hear that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► he sets up his friend for one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► know to be yeah there's music there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► couple other girls in the series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► love any girl who he who isn't described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► in terms of how they are attractive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► the male's accepted because except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► grill there's the there's the other girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► got a feeling she's always always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► describe how beautiful she is and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► are ya tractor dark Debbie same deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► very attractive sexy girl was flirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► over their desk arguing over money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► Dennis certainly like that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► thing with coats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► I don't know I thought is it just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37 ◼   ► hound dog what can you say what I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► like it's flirting all in different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► though because i wouldn't call i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► wouldn't call the Fela flirting the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► on the same level as the Debbie flirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► or on the same level as the ferroli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► including every possible type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► learning well but I'm just saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► the fact that they're different like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► read you read juvenile books bye bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► guys who are you know clearly a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► bit sex craved or putting funneling us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► it's an obsession into that and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► all the female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► it wasn't there were no female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► characters intelligent but yeah I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► saying like when you read it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► read a book by an author who is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► a little sex-crazed all of the women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► come across the exact same way so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► all like all of all the women you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► our sexy for this exact same reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25 ◼   ► always hear legs come up benefiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► robert jordan yes Robert Jordan is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► perfect example if you want an author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► who is terrible at women robert jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► terry terry goodkind is another perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► example of this where it's just to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► of the all of the women have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► similar yeah all the women have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► similarly descriptive characteristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► and the thing that I find interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► about this is yes Dana is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► wonder she's one-dimensional she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► two-dimensional she's floating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► whatever but could both says hey that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► puts her up on a pedestal at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► beginning with a book he says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► the girl that was completely unreachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► and this is why and it wasn't like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► doesn't go just she's unreachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► because she's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► it's very much like this she is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► unknowable object and literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► unreachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► yes effort for months at a time doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► it cellphone store like magic magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► cellphone have magic and they can't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► magic phones he's gonna he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► artifice 18 I think you can make one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► the fishery in about a month right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► she's writing her own Queen Killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► chronicles yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► well I fascinating i would be relaxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► that's one of the things that word cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► my thought was a really funny theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► which is that he is obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► finding the champion and the charians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► hey opposition is this other group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► is the mirror your idea mirror so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► so what if she's obsessed with finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► me a mirror and they're working like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► opposite side of the same case this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► entire time and different did anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► assumed that her her patron was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► the Chandra and I mean oh yeah kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► more ideas maybe the guy he's playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► the board game with two yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► mm but who knows I mean that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► the that's just a lot of the economy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► characters talking there which is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► perhaps we've seen her patron and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► already know who he is it was the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► who is playing chess with i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► call cheat on that because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► character like you have to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► something that makes a suspected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► guy was a hundred percent straight-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► he's especially is a good guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► and that's what makes me suspect its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► batteries you know what I mean he's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► it doesn't see it doesn't seem like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► kind of book doesn't seem like the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► of book worries like pulling like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► like a new uniforms room murder where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► you make like the one guy who didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► expect it's the priest has been friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► the whole time lots of cheap move you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► know what I mean yeah I mean I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► there are no new characters introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► this book all the time that i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► feel like it's definitely somebody we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► heard of before but I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► necessarily feel like if somebody yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► somebody could both knows well one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► the Chandra and could be absolutely be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► the case i love that though I i do love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► the fact that there is this super scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► band of supernatural creatures where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► you if you speak about them a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► much they will come and kill you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► they don't want to be known as the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► of them for not being known really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► what was your reason to kill everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► well because everything kill everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► so they just wiped off the map so nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► even associated oh my god those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► died I don't know who did it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► talking again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► I mean the whole book is surrounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► around the the concept of names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► stories and that kind of so it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► perfect sense that you know nameservers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► stories are dangerous means that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► most dangerous thing i mean i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► that everybody does to ride this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► thing about him being like you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► searching for fairy tales right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► that was always you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► interesting is our date but they accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► every other movie is very specifically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► ridiculous has come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► well it's you know even in a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► world you've got to have limits right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► you've got to have you've got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► the high-end that that's not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► going to happen is beyond the pale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► yeah exactly so do we like this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► actually i cani cani list of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► things i like about it but i do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► bunch of things i'm not at all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► let's do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► whoo not real genius Jason I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► women characters that I like the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► shipwreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► yeah it's resetting shipwrecked not so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► like almost all the many settings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► they put everything in the little stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► like a dragon hunt in the last one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► which is well i didn't i didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► that but the dragon the Severn I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► that whole setup that was fun them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► we left it before it got to be boring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► stupid that the Adem and admir and Tempe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► and the whole talking with gestures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► hit that character that character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► particular is one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► characters he was interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► strange and in the beginning you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► he was quite mysterious guy but he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► back to the village realize he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► kind of like a lowly runt of the litter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► and he really shouldn't have done what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► he did I like those guys like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► culture that was a funny little story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► I like the thing in the tree that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► good idea that thing that knows all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► possible yeah and tries to cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► most harm based on info that's it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► all these things are our basis of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► can imagine like yours best fantasy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► science fiction having a little stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► in each one of these settings they'd all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► be good you know the tree I just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► second I what I love about the tree is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► that it is completely consistent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► the the kind of many worlds idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► that the tree sees all the possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► things and knows that if it says certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► words those only appear in this eventual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► outcome so it says those words which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► just wow what a crazy idea and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► see why nobody would want to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► it and why it would be really evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► anybody in the face around but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► they're scared of it's like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► even don't even go there don't even talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► don't do not engage with that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► whose name I can't pronounce right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► don't talk to the tree and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► also the tree and terms of the parallels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► the tree with the ATM where there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► tree that has the like the sword will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► stand ya ya crazy so all those little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► settings i like the sword where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► to memorize the entire history out yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► every prior owner there's so many that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► that's what it makes you want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► these books ever there's so many those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► little touches a good sorry Bob rich so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► many little things in there it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► they do not hold together into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► cohesive hold it's a story that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► is going to be successful but all little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► pieces I like chronicles you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► like it's like a good book exploded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► these are the pieces and I particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► think Martin Martin wow this is little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► piece like this one shiny boy but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► have deployed of the book is that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► telling how he became a legend so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► telling all these little stories because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► all these little stories are how legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► are you know that's how our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► deals with the story search the group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► stories that stand alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► and they're super cool and then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► you know exaggerated throughout the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► and then suddenly he is all-powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► when he's really just a guy who's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► of collapsing under the pressure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► legend that he kind of helped create and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► the people who don't know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► reproduce that i can draw the line on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► that when I was like come on people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► I think everyone figures out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► reproduction marks if you don't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► out a reproduction works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► you are not successful as a society as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► you figured you did something people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► figure out I'm sorry homunculus it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► it's a fantasy book maybe it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► work that way mrs. Jarrow i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► fact though that they're very insistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► on it because it does it just puts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► point that you need to maybe reexamine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► your maybe it will wait a second is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► just my culture who thinks that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► obviously not but it's such a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► moment of like but no yourself only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► there were some experiment we could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► to you yes well maybe we had the means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► the scientific method to figure out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► eternal mystery but they don't they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► they live in the rocks they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► any of value they live in rocks or was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► it was exciting to hear it was like man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► mommies or something i forget what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► slang term was for you believe in it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► a mister mister mom's you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► Michael Michael Keaton's you believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► oh so we purchased second miss what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► what else John anything hot and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► that's it for all the things that i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► that it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► yeah but that's basically no but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► agree with you completely that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► thing as much as i mock these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► regressions inside digressions lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► the aggressions were really fun and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► and rich and and enjoyable on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► their own pull apart even if the larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► thing I'm will wait wait a second are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► ever gonna get back to all this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► stuff that's going on where you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► do you want to get back yeah just hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► out here and can't wait till we see den [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► no yeah that's where it's all unrequited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► an awkward I'd forgotten she exists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► now we're back and looking for her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► Severn loan it's like just come come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► tell me who you're but what who your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► patron is no answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► he's got no la now got like a suppliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► I cannot tell you who my patron is oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► but I love you but but no but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► tell you because the polygonal your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► understatement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► now I have to go kill a dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► and I could take the dragon yeah my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► absolute favorite parts about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► are well two things 1i love the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► that these are you know to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► thousand-page books and what this one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► a thousand pages i think we're 994 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► that don't feel like thousand-page books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► i read each of these i read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► back-to-back because I happened to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► up a name of the wind after wise man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► fear would come out and I read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► back-to-back in two days just because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► just the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► yes i know it say I didn't have day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► three and it drove me insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► we're at a tavern I was at the tavern of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► my apple pie and cider the tavern of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► room I think you know what's what's most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► impressive about that though really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► the amount of mocking before you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► yes when when other people are reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► those books just just that I i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► mocking these books i was mocking these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► books because dan was rereading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► gloating does not become you mr. know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► was curious I was like oh yeah well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► was looking over her shoulder it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► oh weird magic words and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► traveling i have read this but are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► more true so yeah you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► continued marketing business for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► valid mocks me they are they are valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► marks but you know what it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► incredibly well-written book and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► not it is not incredibly well-written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► yes yes yes I was John that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► giving you coming back if anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► the writing I mean in the parts that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► enjoy it was poorly written and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► don't know probably was party wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► hold together structure of the sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► and stuff like that like it's competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► and the idiosyncrasies are charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► instead of irritating for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► but i think we call that good writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► yeah I you know what I'm not saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► Hemingway I'm just saying it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► it's not having what if you can write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► thousand-page book if it was poorly Rand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► and you wouldn't be coming back but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► is this is the opposite of him it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► not Cormac McCarthy yeah you can keep if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► you can keep me occupied for an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► day for a thousand-page book and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► feel like I've only read two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► pages i count that is good ring it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► it's a book limbus yes it's a paper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► i will give you that it is paige Turner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► it's not citizen calibre page for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► everything ok kindle clicker also i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► i respect you that I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► respect his ability to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► music into this and to work like 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► Lian's i am back dialogue and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► that it's it's really really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► to see those those fields and those sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► of things interweaving and the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► stuff i mean coming from a classical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► music background and reading these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► it's really really touching some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► things in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► strike right at the core of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► especially me like as a musician I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► like yep i completely identify with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► and the way you're saying this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► exactly how i feel and it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► don't find that all that often where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► someone can capture passion accurately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► on the page and I really that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► impressive i'm still going with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► exploding book theory because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► for example that little piece that piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► of the music you know I recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► as it was a good party even though i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► not a musical person as as a good part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► of the book there are many aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► this that are exemplary I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► think they all fit together into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► overall really good book really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► story to pay trying to because i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► little nuggets and it's like I'm it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► like a video game with is really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► you know maybe really cool boss battles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► are really cool levels here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► and there's lots of director in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► when you're done it doesn't hold up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► is like so as a cohesive whole story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► even though I keep wanting to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► but I want to get to the night next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► interesting nugget I keep turning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► pages and each of those each of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► nuggets is good and they're good aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► of it i don't think i like the mix is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► right i don't think the formula don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► think he's got it down yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► you know you're a rat you're a rat in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► maze John now looking for that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► piece of GMO you know they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► pieces of cheese here and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► exploded off of the large wheel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► cheese most of its amazed and it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► a way to weigh 250 pages medicine got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► your veteran fantasy reader what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► think I completely disagree with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► because i think that the the beauty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► this this story is that it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► fragmented and kind of building up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► this framing story which I know I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► repeating this but I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► the whole thing is about storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► how you know these different things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► going to weave together to form this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► legend of this guy and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► built like I could be sorely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► disappointed because I am assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► it's going to build up to something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► book 3 and something will happen but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► it doesn't then i will agree with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► retroactive with high- assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► explanation book 3 will be disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► and I can't believe Scott isn't also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► assuming that as my fellow passive we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► have an optimist and is optimist aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► you just assuming whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► explanation I haven't booked three it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► going to be disappointing for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► there's no there's no way they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► explain anything to build up to the hype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► they have over at the two brothers john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► says the glass is half empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► Scott's as half-full I say it's got half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► as much stuff as it contains exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► I i have faith in I think that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► process is a very good storyteller and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► have a feeling that he will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► satisfying conclusion and I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► that it will only be three books so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► if it isn't that satisfying it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► take that long to read them is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► short story teller don't have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► novelist that's a good short stories in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► that last novel alright damn red you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► have things to say about I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► sounds it sounds like reading your very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► positive about it i'm very positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► about it was it's the first series i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► read in a while that made me really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► excited to start reading fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► again and that's that is a hard thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► yes what about you damn i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► really like I agree a lot with Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► because he's smart but you know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► pains me and so I I know but I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► we talked about this a little bit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► name of the wind podcast about the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► of this being a book more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► storytelling and I think you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► a subject that happens we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► interesting to me and perhaps that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► I found it so entertaining and enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► that sort of meta aspect of well what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► a fantasy legend right we have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► books that are about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► larger-than-life heroes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► adventures they go on and so it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► of interesting to have them be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► that flipped on their head to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► extent and be like yes they're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► stories but we are hearing them through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► this person's point of view and for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► know this person basically appears to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► you know a bartender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► yeah there's some there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► interesting contradiction is going you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► know on an errand and again like Scott I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► think you know the third book if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► building to an end here then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► hopefully it pays off on all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► that we've sort of had put out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► I I'd certainly and enjoyed the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► two and look forward to reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► Jason how do you feel about these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► aah SI not a regular fantasy writer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► know I i enjoyed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► I i I'm kind of in the middle in that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► i agree that I a lot of this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► storytelling and the framing story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► important because he's building his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► legend in his own way and so there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► be some level of not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► unreliability but he chooses the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► he tells and and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► interesting i like the richness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► world and the fact that he does seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► be planting seeds of of stuff early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► that in hindsight or if you go and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► a blog on the internet you can see he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► knows what was happening in the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► book in the first book and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► internally consistent which I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► also shared John's feeling that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► are there are times when I thought yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► the individual moments hold together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► better than the book as a whole and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► it's a little bit you know chamblee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► and rambly and and and messy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► would make me laugh saying that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► five digression is down but uh but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► I i do think that he's got a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► he's got a lot of skill on display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► my concern though is is that job I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► worried that John may be right i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► i've got some hope that that this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► come off but it is you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► University stuff does feel like we we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► already have a lot of that we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► it again and you know i'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► sure if the if the overarching story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► maybe a little too messy and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23 ◼   ► progressing as fast as maybe I prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► but you know i'm enjoying the moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► and I'm enjoying the richness of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► so I'm willing to take the ride even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► if it ever got some concerns about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► about some of the details so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► i agree with everybody everybody's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► god bless us everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► now I think we all agree they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► when the third book comes out we'll all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► read it like even though i said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► these bad things about it like it keep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► keeps me reading because i want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50 ◼   ► fun little parts and I'm not offended by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► him too i just think alike but jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► said is true i think he has lots of raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► talent he just doesn't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► harness it yet in my opinion it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► mean that the book is not worth reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► it just means that i can given his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► talent and these things these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► things that he's made I can envision a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► better book than what he's written if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► could have that the same town focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► more into into a hole like he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► quite figured that out yet i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► think that he is trying to tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► destroyed story though and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► what i have been doing that I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► know what you're saying I know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► you're describing I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► remember there was some story right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► there is very similar to this of a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► telling about legend of itself with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► going forward and back and maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► been several of them that's why i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► I if he's going for that he could pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32 ◼   ► that off better than he's doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► I i'm not sure i'd rather read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► story then a different one with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► guy but like it's I I just think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► got a lot of raw talent and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► farthest first books like this first in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► a second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► yeah I think that kind of shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► again being a big Stephen King fan he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► I he's the author was most books that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► think about every single thing Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► can get similar problems he was a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► author where he had some raw talent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► he was just kind of a mess right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► took just years and years and many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► books for him to just figure it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► push it together and I get that vibe i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► think Patrick Rothfuss is better in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► first two novels and Stephen King was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► his first you know several of them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► he's got stuff I have to say John I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► sorry to do this it's not as if Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► King is one of your favorite movies from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► the 80s but i will say you know rafas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► stylistically as a rather than early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► books true but Stephen King does get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► now together around i like i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► stephen king but what what his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► lack that I think I see in the patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38 ◼   ► rothfuss stuff is just a tie I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► style i think that Stephen King has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► always been somebody who's got a style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► but his voice sounds the same in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► and I know he's got a lot of things i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50 ◼   ► not trying to slag on on Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► here i'm just saying that I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54 ◼   ► rothfuss bring some stuff to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► that I think Stephen King doesn't but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► think you're right in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► stephen king is very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► constructing his books in a way that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► not sure Patrick Rothfuss has got that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05 ◼   ► mostly what I'm getting at is stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► king is with workmanlike I'm not holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► out as a great author but he really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► figure out from his early stories where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► he was and knows how to tell stories how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► to tell scary and 22 his later start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► like at his turning point thinking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► is obscure be unless you're sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► kingdom but the book bag of bones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► was not a very good book and not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► my favorites but I'd noted that when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► was reading it as a turning point in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► writing where he actually finally had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► little tiny bit of style chops on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► display and ruthless does have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► style than steaming and probably ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► will but it's just so loose and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► unencumbered by anything whereas Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► King was messy and disorganized and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► writing and he finally got a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► of style around bag of bones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► nobody read and then afterwards you sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► of pulled it together but yeah he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► Stephen King is work he works the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► formula and you know what you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► get when you read one of his books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it's solid it's every one of his stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► later ones after that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► constructed solidly almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► Hollywood movie only ten times longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► now write it up right all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► this is gonna be the longest book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► podcast we've ever done but it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► about is the equivalent of about 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► pages will soothe yeah war 1 2015 oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► thank you bring it back around I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► yeah yeah I i don't i don't regret right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► reading either of these series that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► good that's our new bra write books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► you're done you want those moments of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► your life back now we have a we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► have our podcast later about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► books we regret like oh yeah that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► the left is one of those that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► maybe reading one area that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► problem ya series though because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► with unfinished serious because then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► get to the last book and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► retroactively Lee regret reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► everything business last book just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► completely crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53 ◼   ► excellent yes know what i will do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► podcast that is books authors or series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► that we regret or refused to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► basically will be the the the 60-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► hate oh i watch that on CBS 150 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► a CSI hate ya SI hay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► alright well we've covered 2,000 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► worth it only took us two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► minutes so until next time on the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► club where our topic will be if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► like to read ahead the a4 mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► ready player one not we'll share some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► pages long shirt no very short quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► read sure to be a lot to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► about that and then we'll cart back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► what you're reading as well because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► didn't have time to read anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► you're reading 2,000 page long fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► novels about about Mitch's whatever not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► going to talk about what's his facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► stream d know we might talk about Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► Stephenson to i gotta finish reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► allstate speaking of a thousand-page but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► that's what I'm really right gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► to it and finish reading ready player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► one first off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► yeah I'm in the midst I know it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► to it's hard to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► I never learned to read i have hired a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► guy to read through that he summarizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► it for you know he sounds like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► yes it's damned or in fact I the Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► morons title soundboard i actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► use that voice when reading 2 j's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► calls me and reads me a chapter a night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► before I go to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► it pays great guys mm that's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► have no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► that's why I have a job yeah alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► until we return with the another edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► of the book club i would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► my guest John siracusa thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► being here and talking about the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► and the bad of patrick rothfuss very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► ren called well thank you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► and talking about 2,000 pages worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► fantasy it's always a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► Scott mcnoltey i'm glad you were here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► provide your traditional wit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► well thank you i feel like this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► good podcast that exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► well it was a podcast of exploded that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► every leaving SS and leaving is evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► arts that's right leaving good parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► scattered around amidst the wreckage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► Dan Morgan thank you for being here as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► you are on practically every part make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► it sound like I don't have a life no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► your consistency reading where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► consistent bandit you're too busy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► is the name of my marbles consistent too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► busy recording podcaster read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► sadly i'm reading a book right now as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► are automatically claims a lot it does I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► alright until next time I Jason Snelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► for the uncomfortable thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► listening to buy always read read kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► reading is fundamental stand school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMalrMWg/2928">TS</a>]